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mountain_jim
6th November 2012, 23:51
Bill and Kerry's Pilot - Shadow Operations - The Mars Project on TruTV 11/7 11pm

well the text includes Bill - I thought this was Kerry's production...

I was at Kerry's blog earlier today - did not see this at that time.
Edit: still not on front page there

I am looking at the DirecTV guide and it's listed.



"Pilot" Science

The investigative work of Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy who have devoted their lives delving into secretive and undercover phenomenon that the government, scientists, and officials refuse to acknowledge or talk about.
Science/Nature Series Premier


(we were actually looking for Ventura's new season of Conspiracy Theory to record tomorrow and stumbled into this on the guide)

info from an old post of Kerry's

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/index_old.html



PROJECT CAMELOT TV SHOW


PLEASE HELP GET THIS SHOW ON THE AIR!!!

A Note on The PROJECT CAMELOT TV SHOW: AKA SHADOW OPERATIONS - TRU TV

As I wrote the following it occurred to me there is no reason not to let the world know....

Over a year ago we shot a TV show for TRU TV that was supposed to be a sister show to the Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory show... Since then after staff changes and re-edits eventually it was done and they have not PUT IT ON THE AIR yet.. even though they are now out of contract with us.

First it was supposed to air in Sept then end of Nov and now it is pushed to February... UPDATE THIS SHOW HAS BEEN PUSHED OFF THE SCHEDULE AGAIN!!! PLEASE HELP. The show is great and based on Project Camelot and all our witnesses... We are the leads and we co-produced it.

The DULCE show was supposed to be one of our episodes.. From what we can tell now they are siphoning off our show ideas to Jesse to try to get him to follow them out. Of course he doesn't have the background or expertise in this area regardless of how well he does his own show... We are great admirers of him by the way!

We would like to encourage any Camelot supporters to write to TruTV to urge them to AIR OUR PILOT SHOW!!! Here is there Contact Us link: http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html



Could someone with access to her forum notify Kerry or Kerry's webmaster about this? I assume if they knew it was to air tomorrow they would have something up on the front blog page...

ThePythonicCow
7th November 2012, 01:17
Bill and Kerry's Pilot - Shadow Operations - The Mars Project on TruTV 11/7 11pm
Well I'll be danged - here's a screen shot from http://www.tv.com/listings/station/24569


http://thepythoniccow.us/Mars_Project_TruTV_Kerry_Bill.png

I'll give Tommy (seeingterra), Bill and Kerry a ping, with the addresses I have.

KiwiElf
7th November 2012, 01:23
For those outside of the USA, any chance we'll be able to see it here on Avalon, (or YouTube) Paul? Looks gewd!! :)

ThePythonicCow
7th November 2012, 01:34
For those outside of the USA, any chance we'll be able to see it here on Avalon, (or YouTube) Paul? Looks gewd!! :)

I've no clue - likely Bill will make it as available as the contract allows. He'd know about that stuff.

ThePythonicCow
7th November 2012, 01:46
I see from another tv listing site that the 11PM time applies to the EST and PST time zones in the US (the typical television handling of timezones I suppose.)

Bill Ryan
7th November 2012, 03:05
Bill and Kerry's Pilot - Shadow Operations - The Mars Project on TruTV 11/7 11pm
Well I'll be danged - here's a screen shot from http://www.tv.com/listings/station/24569


http://thepythoniccow.us/Mars_Project_TruTV_Kerry_Bill.png

I'll give Tommy (seeingterra), Bill and Kerry a ping, with the addresses I have.

Well, I'll be danged, as well -- we had thought it would never see the light of day. If this is indeed accurate! I say that because as best I know no-one's told us it was airing... not even TruTV.

Important: I'd be most grateful if someone could record this, if it airs. We have our own copies of the pilot -- which we're legally constrained from sharing -- but we have no way of knowing if anything will have been changed or omitted. I'd also very much like to know how it's introduced... etc, etc. Personally, in Ecuador, I will have no access.

It's not a bad episode. The showpiece is Bob Dean, of course (pretty much at the end), but it also features Gordon Novel, David Wilcock, Brian O'Leary, Richard Hoagland, and Andy Basiago. Bob Dean is just wonderful, as can be imagined.

Do please keep me informed.... very much appreciated.

amandapoet
7th November 2012, 03:27
I already have it set on my DVR...coincidentally I rarely watch that channel but today I felt compelled to look up Jesse Ventura's show and noticed Bill's show following it...I was quite impressed.

Looking forward to seeing it hit the silver screen finally!

~Amanda

Mandala
7th November 2012, 03:46
Bill and Kerry's Pilot - Shadow Operations - The Mars Project on TruTV 11/7 11pm
Well I'll be danged - here's a screen shot from http://www.tv.com/listings/station/24569


http://thepythoniccow.us/Mars_Project_TruTV_Kerry_Bill.png

I'll give Tommy (seeingterra), Bill and Kerry a ping, with the addresses I have.

Well, I'll be danged, as well -- we had thought it would never see the light of day. If this is indeed accurate! I say that because as best I know no-one's told us it was airing... not even TruTV.

Important: I'd be most grateful if someone could record this, if it airs. We have our own copies of the pilot -- which we're legally constrained from sharing -- but we have no way of knowing if anything will have been changed or omitted. I'd also very much like to know how it's introduced... etc, etc. Personally, in Ecuador, I will have no access.

It's not a bad episode. The showpiece is Bob Dean, of course (pretty much at the end), but it also features Gordon Novel, David Wilcock, Brian O'Leary, Richard Hoagland, and Andy Basiago. Bob Dean is just wonderful, as can be imagined.

Do please keep me informed.... very much appreciated.


Bill, I'm excited. I've been waiting for this for a long time. I will be staying up to see it, I won't be able to wait to see it the next day.

AlkaMyst
7th November 2012, 04:00
Important: I'd be most grateful if someone could record this, if it airs. We have our own copies of the pilot -- which we're legally constrained from sharing -- but we have no way of knowing if anything will have been changed or omitted. I'd also very much like to know how it's introduced... etc, etc. Personally, in Ecuador, I will have no access.

Bill here's the link where you can watch it live tomorrow!

http://livetvcafe.net/video/7Y78YR9H9DKB/Tru-TV (http://livetvcafe.net/video/7Y78YR9H9DKB/Tru-TV)

I am going to be watching this.......been waiting a long time too see this!!!

Enjoy everyone.......:)

Blessings,
Alk@Myst

Anchor
7th November 2012, 04:08
Well, I'll be danged, as well -- we had thought it would never see the light of day. If this is indeed accurate! I say that because as best I know no-one's told us it was airing... not even TruTV.

Important: I'd be most grateful if someone could record this, if it airs. We have our own copies of the pilot -- which we're legally constrained from sharing -- but we have no way of knowing if anything will have been changed or omitted. I'd also very much like to know how it's introduced... etc, etc. Personally, in Ecuador, I will have no access.

It's not a bad episode. The showpiece is Bob Dean, of course (pretty much at the end), but it also features Gordon Novel, David Wilcock, Brian O'Leary, Richard Hoagland, and Andy Basiago. Bob Dean is just wonderful, as can be imagined.

Do please keep me informed.... very much appreciated.

I like it when surprises like this happen :)

It is it allowed, assumeing it gets recorded for it to be uploaded to youtube?

Tommy
7th November 2012, 04:08
Thanks for letting us know! lol

TruTV has not said a thing about this at all to either one of us it seems. I have posted the announcement on the front page now and Kerry will update with some more info later as she is out at the moment.

Honestly never thought this day would come, so will be fun to see where this goes.

So where is the premiere party?

:p

mountain_jim
7th November 2012, 04:18
I got excited when I saw it was airing, knew there was nothing up on these sites yet, and could not think of your login ID at that moment, Tommy. :)

Glad Paul could get the message out quickly.

Mandala
7th November 2012, 05:17
I'm stoked, good for them. They have done so much to get the truth out! I wish them the best. We all have to email the network to give a thumbs up so they will make more shows.

applepie
7th November 2012, 05:46
I have a tv but no tv service subscription. Could someone please tell me whether I could watch the show on internet?

Sloppyjoe
7th November 2012, 05:55
Sweet!! I will be watching this!!!!!

Tommy
7th November 2012, 10:33
Due to the lack of promotional material from truTV I created this poster for us to use for promotion, so if you would like this to go viral feel free to use this one :)

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/images/marsposter-corrected-time.jpg

Bill Ryan
7th November 2012, 11:26
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Thanks, Tommy -- that's a really great poster. :)

The still shot of Kerry and myself that Tommy used is from the restaurant scene where we meet and interview Bob Dean towards the end of the episode. It's by far the best part of the show.

Having a retired military officer saying on record in front of millions of viewers that the President doesn't know what's going on, and that there's been a base on Mars for 100,000 years, is dynamite. It's never been stated on TV before. That's why this show is important. That short section alone will make a great YouTube clip that deserves to go viral.

On Kerry's blog (http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1407-the-project-camelot-tv-show-is-airing-tomorrow-at-trutv) just now she called it "Disclosure in a Box" -- a neat title. It is.

deridan
7th November 2012, 11:58
good, u'all will get your names in even the mouths of the most ignorant,
ride the tide well, for in someones intentions it might be a last little allowance they give to something they may see as a passing fad(as say Charl would put it)

truth4me
7th November 2012, 12:38
I will be watching. Bill, what if that one show is a hit and they approach Kerry and yourself. Would you be up to doing more with Kerry? Not trying to get to far ahead just wondering.....

STATIC
7th November 2012, 14:36
Bill, do you think there is any particular reason why they would not contact you or Kerry to let you know your show would air?

Huma
7th November 2012, 14:40
Richard Hoagland, David Wilcock, and Basagio are quite the suspect trio. Bob Dean and Brian O'leary however are real standouts though. It's a shame.....

None the less, while I cannot record it, I will certainly hunt down any copies I can find and share it with everyone should I find one :).

Huma
7th November 2012, 15:02
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Thanks, Tommy -- that's a really great poster. :)

The still shot of Kerry and myself that Tommy used is from the restaurant scene where we meet and interview Bob Dean towards the end of the episode. It's by far the best part of the show.

Having a retired military officer saying on record in front of millions of viewers that the President doesn't know what's going on, and that there's been a base on Mars for 100,000 years, is dynamite. It's never been stated on TV before. That's why this show is important. That short section alone will make a great YouTube clip that deserves to go viral.

On Kerry's blog (http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1407-the-project-camelot-tv-show-is-airing-tomorrow-at-trutv) just now she called it "Disclosure in a Box" -- a neat title. It is.

While I love Bob, and agree that getting his testimony on a major TV show is dynamite, and I do indeed agree. The fact is most folks would simply write this off as reality show whackery much like they do ancient aliens, which is viewed primarily as humorous entertainment, not informational.

SEAM
7th November 2012, 15:09
..... Sa-lute!!!

Mozart
7th November 2012, 16:20
Bill, Kerry and Tommy -- it's AWESOME that the show is finally going to air on TV!


My friends don't have a subscription to TruTV, but I'll stop by the local DirecTV office to see about adding just TruTV to their subscription, but that's unlikely, as they like to do package deals, the greedy bastards.


But the KEY thing for me is CLOSED-CAPTIONING (I'm a nearly-deaf guy) for this episode -- and all other episodes -- of Bill and Kerry's program, so, Tommy, perhaps your transcript/translation team can put subtitles into a copy and make it available through your combined websites?


~Mozart

Carmody
7th November 2012, 16:25
Let me put it this way: when the neocons came along, no one in the CIA took them seriously--total joke, nutbars, they where. Then they slowly took over the whitehouse and seemingly...a good half of the nation's idealization.

Never underestimate the power of an initiative, if it is followed through; if it exists, consistently, it's success is a matter of time -as an inevitability.

seehas
7th November 2012, 16:36
just for my understanding, will this be aired on a american tv-station? is this station available in cable and satelite? (how well known is this station in usa?)

i read something about a subscription? sorry dont understand what you are talking about ... im living on the other side of the world and i dont have television :)


anyway good news, i just hope they didnt cut it down somehow

Bill Ryan
7th November 2012, 16:39
I already have it set on my DVR

Thank you! It's very valuable to have this archived. (Do make sure, btw, that the DVR is set for a good 10 mins before and after.)

As I mentioned on the previous page, we have no means of knowing before the screening what might possibly have been added or omitted. I'm sure others will record it, but it's good to have certainty that at least one person will. :)

amandapoet
7th November 2012, 18:05
I have it set to record the show before and will be watching it as it plays...unless I lose my satellite signal it will be there ...not entirely sure how to get it off...but I'll figure that out later...I know it can be done :)

~Amanda

amandapoet
7th November 2012, 18:24
Bill, Kerry and Tommy -- it's AWESOME that the show is finally going to air on TV!


My friends don't have a subscription to TruTV, but I'll stop by the local DirecTV office to see about adding just TruTV to their subscription, but that's unlikely, as they like to do package deals, the greedy bastards.


But the KEY thing for me is CLOSED-CAPTIONING (I'm a nearly-deaf guy) for this episode -- and all other episodes -- of Bill and Kerry's program, so, Tommy, perhaps your transcript/translation team can put subtitles into a copy and make it available through your combined websites?


~Mozart

Mozart, you can change your package for a day and usually go back without penalty, you'll pay the difference for that day...the cheapest package that includes tru tv is the Entertainment, you can do it online to avoid the hassle of the phone system. I worked in a call center for tech support and customer service...and this is totally unrelated but if you really want to get the best price and you're in contract with them say these magic words "I want to cancel my service" and you'll be connected to the customer retention group who has more to offer than a regular rep. Just an fyi if you have DirecTV...

There is a chance they may have it available to view on-demand which means online, I'll look into it and post what I find out :)

M6*
7th November 2012, 18:58
This news makes me Sooooo HAPPY!! Now if I can just figure out how to watch it!

Congratulations, Bill & Kerry and THANK YOU for all that hard work!!! M6*

Revere
7th November 2012, 19:10
Congratulations Bill & Kerry! I hope this becomes a great success and opens the minds of millions!

Peace,
-R-

norman
7th November 2012, 21:11
Great news for Bill and Kerry. Errr.... I hope this forum doesn't get whacked out by another "Charles" tsunami.


When I consider how the Jesse Ventura 2012 series has been held up and how the one episode has been dropped, and how one episode got dropped from the last series of repeats, I have a feeling that True TV is now under new management of some sort to some extent.

Don't be too heart broken if tonight's showing has been messed with so much that it makes you and the interviewees look like nutters. I find the fact that this is being shown on exactly the same day that the new Ventura series gets started, a bit weird.

Oh!... the hat, Bill, this is going to take that hat to the next level. I bags the franchise for selling replicas all over the world.

Bill Ryan
7th November 2012, 23:50
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Someone sent Kerry this --->

http://projectavalon.net/TV_listings_7_Nov_2012.jpg

This is kinda crazy, but we have not been able to confirm the times of the airing of the show. It seems that it may be on at 8 pm PST (see above) -- as well as 11 pm.

TruTV apologized to the production company (Fishbowl Productions in LA) for not letting them know it was airing. Kerry is trying to find out more. We have an agent in LA, and he didn't know anything either.

Can someone very kindly do some smart research and find out definitively when it's airing, in which time zone? That would be very much appreciated.

amandapoet
8th November 2012, 00:06
11pm EST here in Pennsylvania , which would make the 8pm PST accurate.

~Amanda

Tangri
8th November 2012, 00:10
I already have it set on my DVR

Thank you! It's very valuable to have this archived. (Do make sure, btw, that the DVR is set for a good 10 mins before and after.)

As I mentioned on the previous page, we have no means of knowing before the screening what might possibly have been added or omitted. I'm sure others will record it, but it's good to have certainty that at least one person will. :)

Hi Bill,

Here, you can access with live . just wait 15 sec. for advertisement.

http://livetvcafe.net/video/7Y78YR9H9DKB/Tru-TV

Love and Hope

ThePythonicCow
8th November 2012, 00:10
TruTV shows on several "channels". See http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-basketball/what-channel-is-trutv-cries-a-scared-and-confused-nation/

The "1164" channel is provided by AT&T U-Verse.

The screen shot I showed in Post #2 of this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm&p=580131&viewfull=1#post580131) is provided by Time Warner Cable City of Los Angeles: Sherman Oaks (Cable)

So my current wager is that times vary, depending on which TruTV provider you're viewing.

Skywizard
8th November 2012, 00:10
Hi Bill,

It's on here at 10:00 p.m. Central Standard Time tonight.

Hopes this helps,
~skywizard

ps -- I'm on MetroCast Cable

Tommy
8th November 2012, 00:11
Once I get confirmation I will update the poster!

Thanks to everyone looking into this!

Edit: Updated poster:

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/images/marsposter-corrected-time.jpg

Ernest
8th November 2012, 00:14
All I can find out from a quick search is the same as Amanda. According to trutv.com (http://www.trutv.com/schedule/index.html#hpt=nav_schedmain) it should air at 11pm PST which would be 8am CET. I should get some sleep so that I can catch this when I get up.

Night folks,
Magnus

Kristin
8th November 2012, 00:14
Can we get this on-line here in Canada? If any one has any info I would appreciate it! Thanks!

From the Heart,
Kristin

Ernest
8th November 2012, 00:16
Can we get this on-line here in Canada? If any one has any info I would appreciate it! Thanks!

It should be possible, as someone mentioned in an earlier post you should be able to watch it here: http://livetvcafe.net/video/7Y78YR9H9DKB/Tru-TV

EsmaEverheart
8th November 2012, 00:18
I live in the Central Time Zone. My local TV listing says it will air at 10 pm.

Tommy
8th November 2012, 00:19
Posted new poster above fyi :)

Bill Ryan
8th November 2012, 00:23
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David Wilcock's section in the show -- which is really quite well done -- features information from his Montauk source "Daniel", who he references in our very important "Jumproom to Mars" video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMwJmIRF7ZE

David told Kerry today that he's planning a new release of information about (or from) Daniel on his divinecosmos.com (http://divinecosmos.com) website, to coincide with the release of the show.

ThePythonicCow
8th November 2012, 00:25
I live in the Central Time Zone. My local TV listing says it will air at 10 pm.

That would be typical, in my rather limited TV experience, with an 11 PM Eastern time showing. The Eastern and Central timezone broadcasts are run at the same "universal" time, which is one hour earlier on the clock in the Central Time Zone than in the Eastern Time Zone.

Hervé
8th November 2012, 00:40
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[...]

David told Kerry today that he's planning a new release of information about (or from) Daniel on his divinecosmos.com (http://divinecosmos.com) website, to coincide with the release of the show.

Seems like Daniel didn't wait for that and started publishing his dot connectings by his lone self:

Geoengineering, Chemtrails, HAARP,World Orders, Time Lines and Ascension (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51752-Geoengineering-Chemtrails-HAARP-World-Orders-Time-Lines-and-Ascension)


The author of this amazing article, "Daniel", a pseudonym name, is apparently the same "Daniel" whom David Wilcock has had the privilege of meeting and getting to know, gleaning a ton of amazing treasure trove of information.

So if this is the same Daniel, he has written an article that is chock-full of amazing scientific breakthrough information that also is in Wilcock's Source Field Investigations.


Reading the PDFs, it is confirmed to be the same "Daniel."

Bill Ryan
8th November 2012, 00:50
When I consider how the Jesse Ventura 2012 series has been held up and how the one episode has been dropped, and how one episode got dropped from the last series of repeats, I have a feeling that True TV is now under new management of some sort to some extent.

Don't be too heart broken if tonight's showing has been messed with so much that it makes you and the interviewees look like nutters. I find the fact that this is being shown on exactly the same day that the new Ventura series gets started, a bit weird.


Both Kerry and I recorded a bunch of intelligent (and sometimes highly entertaining!) conversations, all of which were heavily edited to make us both look mildly brain-damaged most of the time. :)

Some of those featured, though -- specifically Bob Dean and David Wilcock -- come over really quite strongly. The show contains some important information that's certainly real (with the exception that neither Kerry or I believe Andy Basiago has been to Mars, and you'll see we're cautiously skeptical about that on the show itself).

The original idea was that the show, if it went to series, would accompany Jesse Ventura's new series. We just have to see how the ratings are for the pilot... in the TV world, audience numbers (and advertising dollars) determine everything.

amandapoet
8th November 2012, 00:59
In addition to the 11pm EST showing, according to the schedule link @ http://www.trutv.com they are also showing it at 3am EST. Just an Fyi...also it doesn't look like it is one of the shows they are making available to view online...However, the Jesse Ventura show is, go figure....

There is a chance it may be available to view on demand by some cable providers, but usually you have to wait a day after the show first airs.

~Amanda

AriG
8th November 2012, 01:01
Both Kerry and I recorded a bunch of intelligent (and sometimes highly entertaining!) conversations, all of which were heavily edited to make us both look mildly brain-damaged most of the time. :)


Please. If you and Kerry both drank a litre of 100 proof alcohol and stuck your keychains in the electrical sockets, you would still come off as more intelligent than 99% of the population, even with editing.

Still recovering from the loss of my useless organ and won't be able to stay up to watch. Is anyone planning on recording it? I don't have cable. Only web based stuff.

Thanks much! Looking forward to seeing this!

gooty64
8th November 2012, 01:08
Just wow, while a member of the forum is hurting today and reached out. facepalm

norman
8th November 2012, 01:13
I've got no chance of seeing this without someone putting it on YouTube. I wonder if True TV will get nasty if that is done.

It would be very neat if an Avalonian could make a nice recording and make it available to us here.

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 01:22
In addition to the 11pm EST showing, according to the schedule link @ http://www.trutv.com they are also showing it at 3am EST. Just an Fyi...also it doesn't look like one of the shows they are making available to view online...However, the Jesse Ventura show is, go figure....

There is a chance it may be available to view on demand by some cable providers, but usually you have to wait a day after the show first airs.

~Amanda

when I first started partying with Jesse, he wasn't into conspiracy theories...

some of the things going through his head when he decided to become Governor must have driven him to the edge... ;)

you can do it Bill, you have stories that keep all of us coming back looking for more...

modwiz
8th November 2012, 01:25
Still recovering from the loss of my useless organ and won't be able to stay up to watch. Is anyone planning on recording it? I don't have cable. Only web based stuff.



Now I'm recovering from hearing about useless organs. I am unaware of such organs. This is a concept conceived by the medical profession and not Nature. My guess would be gall bladder.

Your idea about a recording is an excellent one. I have not supported cable companies for some years now.

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 01:25
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Someone sent Kerry this --->

http://projectavalon.net/TV_listings_7_Nov_2012.jpg

This is kinda crazy, but we have not been able to confirm the times of the airing of the show. It seems that it may be on at 8 pm PST (see above) -- as well as 11 pm.

TruTV apologized to the production company (Fishbowl Productions in LA) for not letting them know it was airing. Kerry is trying to find out more. We have an agent in LA, and he didn't know anything either.

Can someone very kindly do some smart research and find out definitively when it's airing, in which time zone? That would be very much appreciated.

Cox channel 1044 at 8PM

AriG
8th November 2012, 01:42
Still recovering from the loss of my useless organ and won't be able to stay up to watch. Is anyone planning on recording it? I don't have cable. Only web based stuff.



Now I'm recovering from hearing about useless organs. I am unaware of such organs. This is a concept conceived by the medical profession and not Nature. My guess would be gall bladder.

Your idea about a recording is an excellent one. I have not supported cable companies for some years now.

arggg. I really need to go to bed, but I can't pass this up. Modwiz, you crack I up! My appendix. Useless organ. It freaked out on me and I had to have the establishment remove it as our vet was out of town. LOL. Would've fared better with the farm vet. Which animal am I? T'would rather be a goat than a sheep. I iz un goat. A go-at! Buenos noches mi amigos!

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 02:08
just saw a tweet go by on someone who watches Jesse Ventura asking about what your show is about, couldn't ask for a better spot...

some day I'll be able to say, I know that guy with the Hat...

he's my buddy Bill Ryan, wish we would have had a beer that day when you were in town...

can't say I taught you about conspiracies though... :lol:

Tangri
8th November 2012, 02:14
Still recovering from the loss of my useless organ and won't be able to stay up to watch. Is anyone planning on recording it? I don't have cable. Only web based stuff.



Now I'm recovering from hearing about useless organs. I am unaware of such organs. This is a concept conceived by the medical profession and not Nature. My guess would be gall bladder.

Your idea about a recording is an excellent one. I have not supported cable companies for some years now.

What about appendix and wisdom tooth:p?
You extremely need a gall bladder:rolleyes:

modwiz
8th November 2012, 02:30
Still recovering from the loss of my useless organ and won't be able to stay up to watch. Is anyone planning on recording it? I don't have cable. Only web based stuff.



Now I'm recovering from hearing about useless organs. I am unaware of such organs. This is a concept conceived by the medical profession and not Nature. My guess would be gall bladder.

Your idea about a recording is an excellent one. I have not supported cable companies for some years now.

What about appendix and wisdom tooth:p?
You extremely need a gall bladder:rolleyes:

Agreed. Many clinicians do not agree. I keep my cleared. No pain and useful.

Tommy
8th November 2012, 03:24
Latest from Kerry on tonight's airing of our show:


PLEASE CORRECT THE TIME AND CHECK YOUR LISTINGS... WE HAVE JUST LEARNED OUR SHOW AIRS AT 8PM PST AND 11PM EST..

Info for those planning to watch our TV Pilot premiere tonight!

On Dish network, truTV is channel 204, no matter where you live in the country, or in USA or in South America.
The tv package on Dish that receives the truTV channel is called "America Stop 200" and is additional to the most basic Dish package.

On AT&T U verse True TV is channel 164 or 165.
It is part of the basic plan which is called U-200
so would be included for all subscribers automatically.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1409-tonight-tv-pilot-is-8pm-pst-prime-time-west-coast-11pm-est

Update: seems ComCast has truTV on channel 73
DirecTV: 246

mountain_jim
8th November 2012, 03:51
I am relying on DVR and will watch tomorrow. Been a long and difficult day and time to recharge my batteries with sleep.

Well maybe I will manage just the first few minutes as it's coming up soon. :)

onawah
8th November 2012, 04:02
The pilot is airing here where I am just after the Jesse Ventura show, which I've managed to sit through though I've been very tempted to throw something at the screen throughout the whole hour.
I saw a few of Ventura's shows which had some good info in them in the past, but this one, in which he claims to be investigating the Reptilian agenda, and in which he shamefully disses David Icke, is absolutely disgusting and insulting.
Whose side is Ventura really on? I really have my doubts now.
Bill and Kerry's pilot starting now.
Update:
So far, 10 minutes into the show, it looks like they haven't tried to obfuscate the information or edited it much, though there are the same kind of distracting and annoying sound effects and zooming, flashing, etc. camera effects, as in Ventura's show, which is a shame. There will probably be at least 10 minutes worth of ads all told, and there is backtracking repetition after each break, which of course, cuts into the actual information.
Oh well, it's TV. It's what we have to expect, I suppose.
But all in all, they haven't butchered it, so far as I can tell.

Mandala
8th November 2012, 04:21
I watched Jesse Ventura's premiere of his new season. I thought he was a bit unreasonable and prejudiced against David Icke.


But the purpose of this thread is to discuss the show that followed; Shadow Operations with Bill and Kerry. I found the show to be timely, intriguing, providing credible information and witnesses. Bill and Kerry were articulate, thoughtful, purposeful and intelligent. The only drawback might be the lack of promotion and late time placement. All in all, 2 thumbs up.

Mitm
8th November 2012, 04:23
Watching it online, it looks ok so far, they just previewed the interview with David Wilcock, and the part when they go to the desert...

truth4me
8th November 2012, 04:31
Excellent so far. Bill and Kerry have done a great job on this pilot episode. I would like to have been a fly on the wall when TruTV was talking with our government about putting this on. I'm still shocked they let it play. I said disclosure would never happen but now with shows like this it might just happen .....if this catches on look out ! This no doubt is different then your run of the mill UFO shows they show that's for sure.....

mountain_jim
8th November 2012, 04:34
Still up watching - good presentation and should open some more minds I would hope. :)

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 04:40
I'm loving the special effects...

takes an informative interview and adds visuals to get the mind alert waiting for more...

I think it is worth watching many more Bill...


Major earthquake hit your home right before this aired, it's pissed off someone with advanced toys...



PS... great seeing you and Kerry together again...

truth4me
8th November 2012, 04:44
People who never have seen or heard Bill or Kerry are wondering does Kerry talk LOL.....

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 04:50
she spoke!!!


they are heading for the launchpad for Mars now...

getting the battle gear on to prepare for the Apache choppers,

awesome photos...

searching for the Venture Star ET craft...

uh oh Hummer coming their way...


Run Bill Run...

DOH too late, they're busted, quick run with the Camera!!!

Kerry looks ready to kick their butts... ;)

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 04:57
running some pretty good commercials, they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't think the show was going to rock the viewers...

Bet Jesse is even sitting there watching...


great finish...

yep you'll be invited back for the next round...


in search of the mysterious shadow government, it has been whispered about behind closed doors by the leaders of Countries, before now never shared with the public...

they are sending earthquakes, jamming their camera equipment, how advanced are they...

Bill and Kerry are traveling around the world for more, this info must be known...


Run Bill and Kerry Run!!!

Mandala
8th November 2012, 05:02
Great narration Bill, intelligent dialogue between you and Kerry. I really like the mystery, the investigative talent that you two portrayed. How can you help but simply admire and adore our Bob Dean.. Bill, we have a winner, if we are given a chance. I was so proud of both of you tonight. It just finished tonight. I loved it. By the way, Bill, what was the name of the triangular craft? Thanks, Mandala

gripreaper
8th November 2012, 05:07
I want to see this. Someone please put it up on You Tube?

[[post update]]

On second thought, when you click on the "forum" tab and look at the current posts, the Inelia interview has been on that page for a long time. Why not put this Pilot episode up on that page?

sandy
8th November 2012, 05:08
Well for most of the alternative community this program is affirming and refreshing. Well done Kerry and Bill! Hope it continues however as Kerry said on her blog..............chances a very slim :(

Now for the critique from the masses.....that is who needs watch, buy into the possibilities and wake up more and more :)

Tangri
8th November 2012, 05:14
Ridiculously edited for low level intellectual audience.

modwiz
8th November 2012, 05:15
Kerry looks ready to kick their butts... ;)

She always looks that way. It's not a bad thing, either.:biggrin:

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 05:17
and Bill, I was able to take a look inside them, you captured their eyes, the facility is right over the ridge, they've seen what you are looking for, but have only been on the 1st floor, they've never been allowed to go down to the lower levels, but watch many come and go...

you found another smudge on the google maps... ;)

if you would have seen what was there, they wouldn't have let you leave...

be careful...

Debra
8th November 2012, 05:19
Well done Bill and Kerry. I just watched it from that link that was given to view the episode over the internet.

My impression from beginning to end was sophistication. Using your voice Bill to anchor the show was perfect. The balance between yourself and Kerry responding and asking questions was great. I think the editors did a very good job.

I was one of the original writers to TruTV to give the go ahead for a series to flow from this pilot. That is because I already trusted your intention, combined style and intelligence to really raise TruTV to a new level.

I pitched blindly but hey - I am not disappointed. Together and with your network of contacts, you bring a high level of authenticity to this field.

Bravo. Good idea Mandala to email the network now. There is also a share button you can use to spread it out further. So while it is still there, use it.

Best wishes.

onawah
8th November 2012, 05:20
Here is the link again where we can let TruTV know we like the pilot and want to see more of Bill and Kerry:
http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html
If everyone on Avalon contacts them, I would think that would have an impact.
The phone # is
800.268.7856

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 05:24
can the threads be merged? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm)

truth4me
8th November 2012, 05:28
Bill, would you mind telling us the behind the scene stuff? Seriously, that was a great show. I'm still stunned that the secret government let this air. Bob Dean " brought the noise" as we say around here in Arkansas with the "been on Mars" for 100,000 years at least information. Now for those who watch TruTV programming they might say it was staged like their Repo or hard core pawn shows when the guys pulled up telling Bill and Kerry to put the cameras away but we know different.........at least I hope so.

modwiz
8th November 2012, 05:35
can the threads be merged? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm)

A little Agni Hotra ritual (burning dried cow dung in an inverted copper pyramid at dawn) should get the job done. :thumb:

amandapoet
8th November 2012, 05:42
Wow...I cannot believe that actually aired. Incredible! The intellectual insights in your show were a sharp contrast to the Ventura show aired before ...I think that may actually help the cause...I actually got a bit of adrenaline rush just watching it; I cannot imagine what it would have been like to be there. Excellent questions, logical conclusions without feeling force fed.

~Amanda

nomadguy
8th November 2012, 05:49
I thought that was a very good Pilot show, much better than the previous show of Conspiracy Theory with Jess Ventura.
And it wasn't chopped up so much that things were not continuous. I hope it gets more showing, seemed like a fairly riveting new show to me. The material was indeed interesting and some of the information being discussed in at least one of the threads on this forum right now. A great start I think! Tip of the hat from me, spot on.

How many episodes are there going to be? I wonder...

Hervé
8th November 2012, 06:02
16 members... 210 guests!

:dance:


:wave:

https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pCt5DZswttRcpsUjuC9sLHWWzssezLkvYdaZ96YMyZ_HRo7jU0-X0jizhpX-UyUHDPnx3whjz3oJ6ykDjpdk8384Vida-5Bge/Image_00003a.jpg?psid=1

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 06:15
so how deep do you think the underground bases on Mars are, just under the surface, or way down deep inside?

What if you are in the jump chair, and don't have the right depth in mind and appear inside a pile of Rocks...

I thought the gateway sounds much safer knowing there is an open door on the other side...

can a gateway be setup on the surface, and we can put one at the edge of our ocean so as water rises we can make another watery surface on Mars by just letting it flow through...

might be easier than arguing with Republicans that are as sure there is no global warming as they were of Romney's landslide... ;)

gripreaper
8th November 2012, 06:19
16 members... 210 guests!

:dance:


:wave:

https://qy9cnq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pCt5DZswttRcpsUjuC9sLHWWzssezLkvYdaZ96YMyZ_HRo7jU0-X0jizhpX-UyUHDPnx3whjz3oJ6ykDjpdk8384Vida-5Bge/Image_00003a.jpg?psid=1

Wow, I've never seen those kind of numbers before on a thread, have you?

Hervé
8th November 2012, 06:26
...

Nop!

ThePythonicCow
8th November 2012, 06:32
can the threads be merged? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm)

Done :)

onawah
8th November 2012, 06:35
Bill, have you and Kerry already put together more episodes?
It really was a great pilot, and it would be fabulous if they will show more of your work.
We can certainly spread the word around to contact TruTV and demand more.
I wonder if they would use some of the interviews on Project Camelot.

Ol' Roy
8th November 2012, 06:46
Well done, Bill and Kerry. Bill your narration was spot on. TruTv is making a big mistake, if they don't make anymore episodes. You guys added some sophistication to the network. I e mailed them to give a thumbs up for the pilot. Hope others do the same!

Sorry to see, Jesse Ventura stoop to such a low level, trying to debunk David Icke. I lost some respect for Jesse tonight. After all TruTv is owned by Ted Turner, which is owned by Time Warner.

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 07:08
I'm looking forward to the underground bases and city episode, remember the spine tingling are you kidding who can I talk with the world is ending Ahhhhhh...

and then Camelot opened the door for all of us to meet...

Home Sweet Spine tingling Home... ;)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

or the hidden cities in the mountains of Peru, built like modern day circuitry at the bottom of lakes...

is it meant to power our world?

can we just drag a cord to it and plug in to power cities?

STATIC
8th November 2012, 07:10
Jessie was taping his foot up and down during the Icke transaction. Seemed very out of sorts. I wonder if there is more going on than I can see. Or he's really just a bigot.

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 07:13
an episode on free energy, or the ET's visiting the ranch...

Super Soldiers...

our ET contacts right here on this forum...

Bill and Kerry could go on for years sharing all he has uncovered as a truth seeker

STATIC
8th November 2012, 07:27
Bill and Kerry could go on for years sharing all he has uncovered as a truth seeker

I'd never leave the bube tube if that were the case ;)

However I agree. It's nice to see well informed intellectuals in the same air time as all the complete drivel flowing over the airwaves these days. It's out there but the truth usually is.

Sloppyjoe
8th November 2012, 07:56
I didn't catch it earlier so it's about to come on next. I feel bad for David Icke in Ventura's new episode. Icke barely makes any money and he even did a tour of his home which is very average. Icke has a good heart and in the world of conspiracies it's hard to prove every little thing, Ventura should know this.

STATIC
8th November 2012, 08:52
For anyone who hasn't been able to watch this yet.

jYlskaysAvA

Enjoy

Hope my PC doesn't melt :)

Bill.. Kerrie... :clap2:

jagman
8th November 2012, 09:02
Hello Bill, I watched Shadow Operations earlier tonight. I thought it was a good pilot. In contrast I thought Jesse's season opener was real crap. I'm not a real big David Icke fan but I thought Jesse treated David so disrespectful. Imo
Bill you and Kerry have great chemistry and it really comes across on camera. When you were interviewing the guy who said he had jumped to mars I could since your
skepticism but you stayed professional. Jesse could learn alot from watching
your presentation. Bill, Have you and Kerry ever discussed bringing in another person? (Open minded skeptic) I would love to see that dynamic play out. (Just a thought.) I think you guys also put out some good info in this episode.

I'm going to email Tru and tell them how I enjoyed the show.

AlkaMyst
8th November 2012, 09:03
Excellent work Bill & Kerry, it is always great seeing you both working together.

Bill, is there any posibility that you could elaborate further on what was discussed in the show....I am dying to know the juicy stuff that happened in the background......thanks in advanced!

For those who been asking, below is the pilot video which has not only been uploaded to YouTube but I have also uploaded it to my server for those who would like to downloaded directly.....the commercials have been edited out for better viewing experience. I apoligize for the time it took me to get this here to you guys but I was dealing with a 60gb file to begin with plus all the editing of the commercials which had to be done and the splitting to be able to post on youtube.

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Stream from my server.....http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/Shadow_Operations_The_Mars_Project/Shadow_Operations_The_Mars_Project.html

Download link......http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/Shadow_Operations_The_Mars_Project/Shadow_Operations_The_Mars_Project.mp4 (Right-Click and save-as to download)

I hope everyone enjoys!

Blessings to all,
Alk@Myst

apokalypse
8th November 2012, 09:31
great show but need more promotions and PR.

woodshreder
8th November 2012, 09:40
I enjoyed the show .I don't want be negative but the only thing to me that did seem odd was that the security detail that stoped Bill and Kerry from driving their SUV any further seemed to be driving the same brand and year SUV,although a different color Ford .If it was a coincedence Im sure Bill would have no problem addressing that scene for the forum.Also In slow motion the security teams clothes seemed more like costumes than quality issued uniforms.Could be private security contractors...... Just an observation,I could be way of base. Props to Bill ,who is just a stellar interviewer and comes off as genuine and credible .I really hope this brings more awareness to those who are searching for truth or those who have never even thought these suppressed technologies even exsist. Totally thorough and complete disclosure is archieveable when the human collective demand the truth. Isn't it really way overdue!!!!
Peace always peace

778 neighbour of some guy
8th November 2012, 10:16
Ok that was fun to watch, a lot of it is allready known by most Avalonians and previously from Camelot of course, this was the pilot episode, anybody has a clue how many episodes were made in total ?

Were all others involved also to not speak out about these shows?

Thanx for posting the show, i was not able to connect to the right channel to view it.

Ed

Highwhistler
8th November 2012, 10:30
Here is the show online for free to one and all (https://www.dropbox.com/s/58zog4feee5grrt/ShadowOperations_TheMarsProject.h264.m4v)

avid
8th November 2012, 11:56
WOW! Thanks to all enabling us to view this documentary, and especially thanks to Bill, Kerry and their support team. I've favourited it and forwarded it!

Huma
8th November 2012, 13:37
So ok....I have some thoughts to share after watching this in it's entirety.

Let me preface this with saying I have seen nearly every PC video, nearly every UFO documentary, all the ufo convention videos over the years countless podcasts, and I have watched nearly every episode of shows like ufo hunters, chasing ufos, conspiracy theory, the list goes on etc etc. You name it, I have likely seen it.

This show was as hokey as the others I have seen from both truth tv and history channel and the like, and I say this with having the utmost genuine respect for Kerry, and especially Bill. I knew in advance having seen all the material I have that this was going to likely be this way, so I was not shocked in the least. That being said, there were some folks on here, and pieces of evidence that needed and were indeed shown and for that I am grateful. My concern is that it was edited, as all of these shows are to be sensationalistic, and they often include the more suspect and less credible people in a given field because the producers typically find them to be more entertaining.

I wasn't nutty about the faux surprise at the information or the people being interviewed as if the information was new to them or as if they hadn't met before. They seemed to pick the most sensational parts of whatever Bob dean shared with you. David Wilcock and Richard Hoagland have been fairly discredited, and while they may be decent people personally, they do a disservice to the likes of Bob Dean and Brian O'leary. Andrew basagio takes special honorary mention for being suspect, as just a cursory look into the logic of his statements and the corroboration he provides breaks down quickly, as Richard Dolan has aptly pointed out on numerous occasions.

I must say though, on a side note, it was a pleasure to see Bill and Kerry on a professionally done show, if not a bit surreal :). I am curious about a couple things none the less, that maybe Bill could now be free to go into further, such as the encounter at the end in Utah, the two rather amazing photographs of the beam of light and the triangle in subspace/orbital space, and the provenance and more in depth analysis of these photos if any had indeed been done. It was also a thrill to see a more subdued Kerry for national television (even if it's just due to editing) :P. (I say that with love). Even with my critiques, I think the show has/had promise if cared for...

norman
8th November 2012, 14:46
HMMMM.......... ! !

So !....

This program stayed in the can, UNTIL, Brian O'Leary and Gordon Novel were both dead.

Mind Boggling, indeed.

Carmody
8th November 2012, 14:52
the problem is that the TV shows are designed after advertising as some form of a modeled parent. (I've not seen this particular show).

this, in my experience, seems to be a model of construction that takes place largely in USA studio houses. Some other places are following suit, but really, it is a '5 minutes of fame' mentality with regard to the cranking up and switching of gears. A tomorrow has no future, let's steal from today' mentality like some form of 'profit now, to hell with tomorrow' stock market thinking. This, with regard to changes in psychological design parameters of a presentation in modern times, in the USA.

Being a large window of common public perception, this television moving talking images thing...this can be (and is) very dangerous, as it moves minds up to a cliff and over it, with regard to mental reflection.

Which is why I tell people to completely disconnect from the television, period. When they don't understand what I'm saying or trying to indicate, then i tell them that it's grip on their minds is seriously, that complete and unrealized. They hand me a return shot and say that they simply watch what they want. and I try and explain to them that even one moment of a image or sound from the hectic and frantic design of the entire presentation is what re-enforces the push from the entire thing. that's all it takes. 30 seconds of immersion every now and then and the link remains steadfast and in full force. One must step away from it permanently to understand this.

This is why people who move from the city to the country.... take time to figure out how sweet it is.... and that one literally has to stop smoking -in order to stop smoking.

The incarnated can think, the ego stepped in and started thinking for the true inhabitant of the avatar. the ego speaks over the occupant, covering up all one tries to ruminate upon.

The TV is a second layer that even silences the ego and covers up that mechanism.

the ego does not mind this, as it leaves the ego firmly in charge of the avatar. it feels satisfied and fulfilled.

Watching TV engages the 'monkey observe and take in' mechanism that the body was designed to fall into when watching the herd, in order to learn. It does this due to multiple senses being engaged. Sight and sound -Motion and voice. thus TV speaks INTO you. It turns one to a 'passive hypnotic intake' meat machine. It's only following it's design function. It is up to the occupant to realize this. how skewed and wrong the premise of TV is, with regard to it's modern incorrect presentation.

It is akin to living permanently in a disaster zone... where everything wrong that can happen is permanently happening, in a continual escalating fashion.....with regard to how it affects the base unconscious functions and modes of the body and emotions.

I hope one can have the common sense to understand how WRONG and unnatural and forced that is. How much dysfunction that creates at the base emotional and unconscious level..and then understand that all data in and out of the body is created and colored BY the body, not the intellect. So then, it is seen that the mind's parameters are definitely altered by such insane exposures, exposures to a base mechanism that has no intellect (the body and emotional/survival subsystems). Yet that base system is in charge of the channels of data flow into and out of the intellect...thus it owns and controls the formation and directives of the intellect.

These things do not exist in a functional and working world. Thinking people who get things done in this world, do not watch televisions. Plain and simple. Nor do they engage in twitter or Facebook land.

As Dolores Cannon said, when recalling a study....that not one person in the study was capable of withstanding the falling into the hypnotic state, while watching TV, for more than 30 seconds. that within 30 seconds, all subjects in the test had fallen into the hypnotic state.

When a given person plays too many video games, the dreams of the person have to do with the video games..the mind tries to work the problems out. False problems with a false premise with a predetermined level of complex difficulty --that is designed to have no resolution, that is in any way functional in daily life. so, when you watch TV shows, about other people's lives and other people's problems, falsified hyped problems and issues, situations that do not exist..your body and thus unconscious takes on these problems as your own, and you spend your inner life trying to deal with them, whether you realize this consciously, or not. Your LIFE begins to be occupied by the given presentations, whether you realize it or not. Sports fans and daytime drama fans (soap operas) are the obvious examples. And one's entire life experience is curdled by the intake and subliminal ownership of the given self.

This has everything to do with the subject at hand. It is my complex and in depth response to the understanding that the episode has been 'hyped', like all other TV shows. why was it done? Well, this entire post, is why. Circular it is.

In essence, they (producers) don't need to hype things to get my attention, they just need well presented data. But the whole thing has turned into a nightmare of base level attention grabbing on the bazaar trading/sales floor of visual and sonic bombardment.

And the endpoint or result, the final conclusion, is that it may or may not be innocent, but it is very dangerous for the given minds and one would be very wise to turn the damn TV off and disconnect from it in a permanent fashion. And in the process, get the capacity to THINK back into the mind. Recall my comment on ego and subsystems. The critical part.

East Sun
8th November 2012, 15:08
Why keep repeating the same shots over and over again. Who ever edited and prepared this just cheapened it--pity. It's incredibly interesting and believable but I think people seeing the people we have seen many times before on here will have great doubts.
Well, at least they did not put in weird music "for sensationalism."
I only watched part of it so far but intend to watch all of it.
Thanks Kerry and Bill.

Mark (Star Mariner)
8th November 2012, 15:09
Here is the show online for free to one and all (https://www.dropbox.com/s/58zog4feee5grrt/ShadowOperations_TheMarsProject.h264.m4v)

Link goes to:


Error (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!

Well that tells you something doesn't it. Anyway, hopefully it will be back up soon, very much look forward to seeing the show. With any luck it may air in Britain...

Bill Ryan
8th November 2012, 15:12
This program stayed in the can, UNTIL, Brian O'Leary and Gordon Novel were both dead.

Mind Boggling, indeed.

Yes. Brian was actually extremely unhappy about the way his section had been edited. It was cut (and re-interpreted) drastically. He had spoken eloquently about the Face on Mars for about 10 minutes. He knew the guys who first discovered it, and was personally involved. None of that made it in to the show.

What was aired did misrepresent him. He'd signed a release form, as is industry practice, but he asked me to forward a strong letter of objection to TruTV. I did that. He was already ill, and he died soon after. I've not yet seen the entire show that was aired last night, but I can see by fast-forwarding that Brian is still in there. I'll go through it frame by frame later on. :)

Thanks to all for your generous comments. Yes, it doesn't look quite so bad two years later! Kerry and I submitted numerous editing notes (we spent hours and hours giving constructive and creative feedback) but the paymaster calls the tune. One or two of our suggestions were implemented, but not many.

There's quite a backstory to the filming. Sean Carroll (the CalTech physicist) actually tore off his mike and stormed away, after some particularly sharp questioning from Kerry. It was a dynamite segment. TruTV pulled it because of fear of repercussions from CalTech. We had urged them to keep it in.

The confrontation with the security guards was staged. The previous altercation, reported by Dave Rosenfeld on camera, was real (as was all the rest of his testimony, including the vertical beam and the very important Venture Star info. (We recorded a spontaneous phone call with aerospace researcher Michael Schratt about that, and he went "WOW!!!" But that too was not included.)

Dave Rosenfeld really had been intimidated by them in that location. We went out looking for the guards (to provoke a real altercation) -- but no-one turned up! So TruTV insisted that it was staged ('re-enacted'). We did think it was quite well done.

More later -- must go to an appointment, and no more time as I write this. Many thanks to all, again.

DO write to TruTV telling them that you liked the show... if you did! It makes a difference.

:)

sdv
8th November 2012, 15:27
[I] tried to watch the show following one of the links given and got this message:


Error (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!

I am not complaining, but celebrating. It's a hit!:first:

PA is the biggest and most vibrant alternative community on the Internet, and has the best chance of reaching out exponentially and getting people to think and question.

Flash
8th November 2012, 15:45
the problem is that the TV shows are designed after advertising as some form of a modeled parent. (I've not seen this particular show).

this, in my experience, seems to be a model of construction that takes place largely in USA studio houses. Some other places are following suit, but really, it is a '5 minutes of fame' mentality with regard to the cranking up and switching of gears. A tomorrow has no future, let's steal from today' mentality like some form of 'profit now, to hell with tomorrow' stock market thinking. This, with regard to changes in psychological design parameters of a presentation in modern times, in the USA.

Being a large window of common public perception, this television moving talking images thing...this can be (and is) very dangerous, as it moves minds up to a cliff and over it, with regard to mental reflection.

Which is why I tell people to completely disconnect from the television, period. When they don't understand what I'm saying or trying to indicate, then i tell them that it's grip on their minds is seriously, that complete and unrealized. They hand me a return shot and say that they simply watch what they want. and I try and explain to them that even one moment of a image or sound from the hectic and frantic design of the entire presentation is what re-enforces the push from the entire thing. that's all it takes. 30 seconds of immersion every now and then and the link remains steadfast and in full force. One must step away from it permanently to understand this.

This is why people who move from the city to the country.... take time to figure out how sweet it is.... and that one literally has to stop smoking -in order to stop smoking.

The incarnated can think, the ego stepped in and started thinking for the true inhabitant of the avatar. the ego speaks over the occupant, covering up all one tries to ruminate upon.

The TV is a second layer that even silences the ego and covers up that mechanism.

the ego does not mind this, as it leaves the ego firmly in charge of the avatar. it feels satisfied and fulfilled.

Watching TV engages the 'monkey observe and take in' mechanism that the body was designed to fall into when watching the herd, in order to learn. It does this due to multiple senses being engaged. Sight and sound -Motion and voice. thus TV speaks INTO you. It turns one to a 'passive hypnotic intake' meat machine. It's only following it's design function. It is up to the occupant to realize this. how skewed and wrong the premise of TV is, with regard to it's modern incorrect presentation.

It is akin to living permanently in a disaster zone... where everything wrong that can happen is permanently happening, in a continual escalating fashion.....with regard to how it affects the base unconscious functions and modes of the body and emotions.

I hope one can have the common sense to understand how WRONG and unnatural and forced that is. How much dysfunction that creates at the base emotional and unconscious level..and then understand that all data in and out of the body is created and colored BY the body, not the intellect. So then, it is seen that the mind's parameters are definitely altered by such insane exposures, exposures to a base mechanism that has no intellect (the body and emotional/survival subsystems). Yet that base system is in charge of the channels of data flow into and out of the intellect...thus it owns and controls the formation and directives of the intellect.

These things do not exist in a functional and working world. Thinking people who get things done in this world, do not watch televisions. Plain and simple. Nor do they engage in twitter or Facebook land.

As Dolores Cannon said, when recalling a study....that not one person in the study was capable of withstanding the falling into the hypnotic state, while watching TV, for more than 30 seconds. that within 30 seconds, all subjects in the test had fallen into the hypnotic state.

When a given person plays too many video games, the dreams of the person have to do with the video games..the mind tries to work the problems out. False problems with a false premise with a predetermined level of complex difficulty --that is designed to have no resolution, that is in any way functional in daily life. so, when you watch TV shows, about other people's lives and other people's problems, falsified hyped problems and issues, situations that do not exist..your body and thus unconscious takes on these problems as your own, and you spend your inner life trying to deal with them, whether you realize this consciously, or not. Your LIFE begins to be occupied by the given presentations, whether you realize it or not. Sports fans and daytime drama fans (soap operas) are the obvious examples. And one's entire life experience is curdled by the intake and subliminal ownership of the given self.

This has everything to do with the subject at hand. It is my complex and in depth response to the understanding that the episode has been 'hyped', like all other TV shows. why was it done? Well, this entire post, is why. Circular it is.

In essence, they (producers) don't need to hype things to get my attention, they just need well presented data. But the whole thing has turned into a nightmare of base level attention grabbing on the bazaar trading/sales floor of visual and sonic bombardment.

And the endpoint or result, the final conclusion, is that it may or may not be innocent, but it is very dangerous for the given minds and one would be very wise to turn the damn TV off and disconnect from it in a permanent fashion. And in the process, get the capacity to THINK back into the mind. Recall my comment on ego and subsystems. The critical part.

Fine but what about videos on youtube Carmody, do they have the same impact, making our ego stay connected and active? (although sincerely I think it does with all kinds of music) Should we relinguish ass electronic visual means altogether? Shall we return to the written word?

Flash
8th November 2012, 15:49
This program stayed in the can, UNTIL, Brian O'Leary and Gordon Novel were both dead.

Mind Boggling, indeed.

Yes. Brian was actually extremely unhappy about the way his section had been edited. It was cut (and re-interpreted) drastically. He had spoken eloquently about the Face on Mars for about 10 minutes. He knew the guys who first discovered it, and was personally involved. None of that made it in to the show.

What was aired did misrepresent him. He'd signed a release form, as is industry practice, but he asked me to forward a strong letter of objection to TruTV. I did that. He was already ill, and he died soon after. I've not yet seen the entire show that was aired last night, but I can see by fast-forwarding that Brian is still in there. I'll go through it frame by frame later on. :)

Thanks to all for your generous comments. Yes, it doesn't look quite so bad two years later! Kerry and I submitted numerous editing notes (we spent hours and hours giving constructive and creative feedback) but the paymaster calls the tune. One or two of our suggestions were implemented, but not many.

There's quite a backstory to the filming. Sean Carroll (the CalTech physicist) actually tore off his mike and stormed away, after some particularly sharp questioning from Kerry. It was a dynamite segment. TruTV pulled it because of fear of repercussions from CalTech. We had urged them to keep it in.

The confrontation with the security guards was staged. The previous altercation, reported by Dave Rosenfeld on camera, was real (as was all the rest of his testimony, including the vertical beam and the very important Venture Star info. (We recorded a spontaneous phone call with aerospace researcher Michael Schratt about that, and he went "WOW!!!" But that too was not included.)

Dave Rosenfeld really had been intimidated by them in that location. We went out looking for the guards (to provoke a real altercation) -- but no-one turned up! So TruTV insisted that it was staged ('re-enacted'). We did think it was quite well done.

More later -- must go to an appointment, and no more time as I write this. Many thanks to all, again.

DO write to TruTV telling them that you liked the show... if you did! It makes a difference.

:)

Bill, will you have the right to make public whatever was not included in the show by Thru TV? Like the bloopers and the non included material? Did you sign any agreement forbidding this?

It would be great to have access to it. Thanks

Carmody
8th November 2012, 15:55
to all who inquire deeply:

If follow up episodes are desirable, it is prudent to be careful of what is spoken of. I'm pretty darned sure Bill is aware of this. Thus, it becomes a difficult proposition, with regard to the whole context of what Bill understands about the episode -and what he can speak on.

Cidersomerset
8th November 2012, 16:01
Well this is a pleasant surprise after coming home from work...........The format is similar to the conspiricy files
by Jesse Ventura..............I thought it was great , The first time Bill out talked Kerry in any joint vid ...LOL..

I cannot wait for episode 2 !!...LOL....( I know there isn't one)...


I was looking to see what colour sky Mars is now a days....

I don't know what colour this is ?? ..LOl..


http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/PhobosCrescentMars_m_0927.jpg

This close up from a photo by NASA's Mars rover Curiosity shows the Martian moon
Phobos as a faint crescent in the Martian evening sky. (Photo: NASA)

Curiosity captures photo of Martian moon Phobos

Mars has two moons, Phobos and Deimos, both of which are much smaller than Earth's moon.

By Tariq Malik, SPACE.comThu, Sep 27 2012 at 12:17 PM EST


NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has been doing more than just driving around the Red Planet
and taking pictures of rocks. It's been doing a bit of Martian moon-gazing too.
The Curiosity rover's latest Mars photo captured the planet's largest Martian moon, Phobos,
during a Martian evening, revealing the satellite as a faint crescent moon.
"Moon Over Mars: I snapped a pic of one of Mars' moons, Phobos, in the twilight sky over
Gale crater," NASA's Curiosity team announced on the mission's Twitter page @MarsCuriosity,
writing as the rover itself, on Sept. 26 — the same day Curiosity made its longest drive yet.
The photo shows Phobos as a faint white crescent that almost blends in with the Martian sky.
A black blemish also appears in the image, but is merely the result of a bad pixel in the image data,
rover officials said.
"When you send images from 179 million miles away, stuff happens," they added via Twitter.
The new photo of Phobos is Curiosity's latest view of Martian moons from the surface of the Red Planet.
Earlier this month, Curiosity snapped photos of Phobos as it crossed part of the sun, creating a partial
solar eclipse on Mars.

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/curiosity-captures-photo-of-martian-moon-phobos

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Here is an interesting 2008 video, showing an Earth-like, blue, atmosphere -- evidence of oxygen being present on Mars:
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vhUWTaNd4LY/UC0t23DHpiI/AAAAAAAADLk/MLbuARuQcEk/s640/Mars+horizon+--+Curiosity+Rover.jpg

http://humansarefree.com/2012/08/the-latest-pictures-from-curiosity.html

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A bit of fun ....cheers Steve....
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Actually we know The soil is like Hawii or the rover is driving around mauna Kea ...

I just did a thread about it ...LOl..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51534-Curiosity-Mars-rover-finds-soil-similar-to-Hawaii-s


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/31/1351700993995/Mars-landscaoe-image-from-010.jpg

A Nasa image of Mars taken by Curiosity's camera during August this year, showing the base of Mount Sharp. Photograph: Nasa JPL Caltech MSSS/EPA


http://javaontherock.com/Hawaii/images/mauna--kea-unar-landscap.jpg

Mauna Kea, meaning "white mountain," is not only the world’s highest island peak; when measured from its underwater base, it is 33,476 feet tall, 4,448 feet higher than Mount Everest. The clean, dry air and absence of urban light makes the summit ideal for astronomical observations. Because of these advantages, the Mauna Kea Observatory (the world’s largest) has made many break-through discoveries. The public can share the spirit of discovery during star gazing programs, held daily from 6-10 p.m.

Carmody
8th November 2012, 16:05
to all who inquire deeply:

If follow up episodes are desirable, it is prudent to be careful of what is spoken of. I'm pretty darned sure Bill is aware of this. Thus, it becomes a difficult proposition, with regard to the whole context of what Bill understands about the episode -and what he can speak on.

In film production, the most valued asset as a staff member in it's production, is secrecy and silence as to any goings on of the production, in any way, shape or form. NDA agreements are signed in that area, by all involved, before the work has begun. During any form of work on or after the film's production, the agreement remains in effect.

This, as the entire point of the enterprise and expenditure - is the end product of the presented visuals and sound.

TV production can be slightly different, but the values still remain.

Thus, if you folks want another episode to air, understand this. It has nothing to do with you (personally) and has everything to do with profitability.

AriG
8th November 2012, 16:28
That was absolutely riveting!! I must admit that I too, felt a twinge of discomfort with the "security detail". After reading Bill's admission that it was staged, I am left with two thoughts (1) Very dramatic and well done and (2) I wish they hadn't done it. The presence of military convoys was enough to support the scene. It makes one wonder about the intentions of the producers. Whose side are they on?

Since childhood I have been telling everyone within earshot that our ancestors were working their way towards the sun and have had memories of living on a different orb. No evidence, other than the contents of my cranium. My husband has begged me not to bring this up in social settings! Thank you so much for some evidence. I can hardly wait to show him this video - " Ha! Now tell me I am crazy" :)

Anyway, this isn't about me. Sorry. Although we have all the interviews and transcripts of this and as some of you think " its old news", this particular production really tied it all together, beautifully.

Bill, you and Kerry absolutely must get back together and continue this work. Please. You two belong back on track, doing this work- you two make Jesse Ventura et al look like rank amateurs. Your style lends credence to the material. You are truly unique. A real life Mulder and Scully!

Congratulations on the airing and on your superior work! And thank you for risking what most of us would never consider.

Sidney
8th November 2012, 16:31
Regardless of editing, and/or mis-representations, this was a changing day for Kerry and Bill!! To be witness to their culminations of hard work over the years seen on TV literally made me cry happy tears for them. I still have a lump in my throat.

Edit: Just finished watching, and I thought it was very well done. You guys look AWESOME!!!!!!!! Can't wait for the next episode.

Kerry and Bill- I have a huge respect for the both of you and am delighted that this made tv FINALLY.

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AriG
8th November 2012, 16:33
Thus, if you folks want another episode to air, understand this. It has nothing to do with you (personally) and has everything to do with profitability.

Well then my advice would be to start an email campaign to the show's advertisers telling them just how much you enjoyed the show and that you also purchased their tat. There are also enough people here to make this go viral. You could also do a petition to the network. Just thoughts.

Flash
8th November 2012, 16:36
Listening to the video. Really well done. What I mostly appreciate is that you managed to slip in all the controversial topics such as ET existence, black projects, banks hold on society, free energy, even underneath structure built up. Lots of regular people will start to ask lots of questions to themselves at least. The only thing missing is black magic and pedophilia and the scandal in UK is doing it substantially anyhow with David Icke on his side.

Congratulations

PS: I have the taste to add up that I have a very radiophonic voice for the French version of it. LOL

Mozart
8th November 2012, 19:04
Here's an alternate You Tube link to view this awesome pilot program of Shadow Operations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYlskaysAvA&feature=youtu.be

EYES WIDE OPEN
8th November 2012, 19:05
Terrible editing. Way too quick with too many fx and jump cuts. As a semi-pro editor I can barley watch it. Its a shame as the info itself is very interesting.

M6*
8th November 2012, 19:06
Kerry has posted it on the Project Camelot site.
You can get there via Google.
I just finished watching it. Wonderful stuff! M6*

EYES WIDE OPEN
8th November 2012, 19:12
bit further in now. seriously, was the editor drunk?

M6*
8th November 2012, 19:16
Bill,
I just finished watching this via Kerry on Project Camelot. Truly Wonderful!
I gave up watching TV so long ago, I will now have to figure out how to get
a DVD copy, which I will then pass along to my most trusted people!
Thanks again for all the hard work. What a TEAM;-)
Sincerely, M6*

avid
8th November 2012, 19:43
Eyes Wide Open...
The backgrounds were OTT, however, they were trying to make the truth 'palatable', a bit toooooooo dramatic, but the message definitely got through - we hope! The great thing was the veracity of Bill's VO - so convincing and comes across as having 'been there -done that', as he HAS!!!! Plus his history as a researcher is incontrovertible - so this wee documentary is BINGO!!!!
Exciting proof at last....

noprophet
8th November 2012, 19:55
There's quite a backstory to the filming. Sean Carroll (the CalTech physicist) actually tore off his mike and stormed away, after some particularly sharp questioning from Kerry. It was a dynamite segment. TruTV pulled it because of fear of repercussions from CalTech. We had urged them to keep it in.

What was the point of contention?

Great pilot by the way.

AriG
8th November 2012, 20:02
Terrible editing. Way too quick with too many fx and jump cuts. As a semi-pro editor I can barley watch it. Its a shame as the info itself is very interesting.

Hey Larry David :)

I respectfully, but completely disagree. The editing kept it moving and kept me from the ladies' until I couldn't hold it any longer. How many documentaries have we switched on at bedtime to to awaken the next morning having only remembered the first ten minutes?

If you are an editor, you are probably accustomed to a particular school of editing as medical doctors are trained to their school of treatment, etc., etc. I think breaking with the mold made it much better than most. Kind of "Blair Witchy" but not quite as dizzying.

My opinion only of course.

seehas
8th November 2012, 20:08
wow, that was amazing to see first it was a bit strange to see the both in such kind of documentary acting like skully and mulder but its a great show to rattle on the cages of many many sheeps out there.

and the way it was done i think is common in television in these days, if you just upload a 3hour conversation with john lear sheeps switch to the action-channel so you have to keep the drama high and cut cut cut ;) please dont be that critic on how it was done be happy john doe had a chance to see this.

Mozart
8th November 2012, 20:42
Well, I finally watched the You Tube version and I can't wait to see the subtitled one that I hope the Avalon Translation Team could soon complete.


I noticed a "Fishbowl Worldwide Media" logo at the end of the program, so, naturally, I googled it and found their website:

http://www.fbwmedia.com/


I'd suggest for many of you to send emails to them to thank them for the awesome pilot of Shadow Operations and to ask them to please be sure to follow up on this pilot and make it a regular program to follow Conspiracy Theory -- what a dynamite combo this pair of TVs shows are!


~Mozart

seehas
8th November 2012, 20:48
I'd suggest for many of you to send emails to them to thank them for the awesome pilot of Shadow Operations and to ask them to please be sure to follow up on this pilot and make it a regular program to follow Conspiracy Theory -- what a dynamite combo this pair of TVs shows are!


~Mozart

that indiana jones looking guy freaked me out, i need to see more of this ! :o a guy with a hat and a chick allways worked in the movies !

something like that i just wrote and maybe you follow me -> WE WANT MORE (http://www.fbwmedia.com/contact/)

STATIC
8th November 2012, 20:53
Well, I finally watched the You Tube version and I can't wait to see the subtitled one that I hope the Avalon Translation Team could soon complete.


I noticed a "Fishbowl Worldwide Media" logo at the end of the program, so, naturally, I googled it and found their website:

http://www.fbwmedia.com/


I'd suggest for many of you to send emails to them to thank them for the awesome pilot of Shadow Operations and to ask them to please be sure to follow up on this pilot and make it a regular program to follow Conspiracy Theory -- what a dynamite combo this pair of TVs shows are!


~Mozart

Hey Mozart

I hope the avalon team doesn't mind,

I'm working on captions for the vid so you can watch it. I've never done this before so it sounded like a fun challenge.

I only just passed the 10 min. mark so It wont be done until late tonight. maybe tomorrow morning.

seehas
8th November 2012, 21:11
who chose the name for the series bill? did you both had influence?

because this lecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mars_Project) written by wernher vonbraun got the same title->

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/WernherVonBraunDasMarsprojekt.jpg

Camilo
8th November 2012, 21:41
Thursday, 08 November 2012 09:22
Written by Kerry Cassidy

Although the aspect ratio is all stretched sideways... this is a decent copy of the show:

http://youtu.be/jYlskaysAvA

T Smith
8th November 2012, 21:41
This program stayed in the can, UNTIL, Brian O'Leary and Gordon Novel were both dead.

Mind Boggling, indeed.

Yes. Brian was actually extremely unhappy about the way his section had been edited. It was cut (and re-interpreted) drastically. He had spoken eloquently about the Face on Mars for about 10 minutes. He knew the guys who first discovered it, and was personally involved. None of that made it in to the show.

What was aired did misrepresent him. He'd signed a release form, as is industry practice, but he asked me to forward a strong letter of objection to TruTV. I did that. He was already ill, and he died soon after. I've not yet seen the entire show that was aired last night, but I can see by fast-forwarding that Brian is still in there. I'll go through it frame by frame later on. :)

Thanks to all for your generous comments. Yes, it doesn't look quite so bad two years later! Kerry and I submitted numerous editing notes (we spent hours and hours giving constructive and creative feedback) but the paymaster calls the tune. One or two of our suggestions were implemented, but not many.

There's quite a backstory to the filming. Sean Carroll (the CalTech physicist) actually tore off his mike and stormed away, after some particularly sharp questioning from Kerry. It was a dynamite segment. TruTV pulled it because of fear of repercussions from CalTech. We had urged them to keep it in.

The confrontation with the security guards was staged. The previous altercation, reported by Dave Rosenfeld on camera, was real (as was all the rest of his testimony, including the vertical beam and the very important Venture Star info. (We recorded a spontaneous phone call with aerospace researcher Michael Schratt about that, and he went "WOW!!!" But that too was not included.)

Dave Rosenfeld really had been intimidated by them in that location. We went out looking for the guards (to provoke a real altercation) -- but no-one turned up! So TruTV insisted that it was staged ('re-enacted'). We did think it was quite well done.

More later -- must go to an appointment, and no more time as I write this. Many thanks to all, again.

DO write to TruTV telling them that you liked the show... if you did! It makes a difference.

:)

Thanks Bill,

This post answered most of my questions. I was wondering what was real and what was reenacted and/or fabricated entirely for sake of the show... What interests me the most is the specific material the editors spliced from the final cut.

All and all, it was very good for an entertainment production for mass consumption. (However, doesn't hold a candle to the work you and Kerry have 100% control over, imho).

Good luck with it; I hope TruTV runs with it.

BTW -- to the forum, it wouldn't hurt to send a letter to the station praising the show and inquiring about the upcoming series. I don't know the exact formula, but one physical letter represents, in terms of demographics, thousands and thousands of viewers and serves as a quantifiable measure of interest in the show.

T Smith

Mozart
8th November 2012, 21:45
I'm working on captions for the vid so you can watch it. I've never done this before so it sounded like a fun challenge.

I only just passed the 10 min. mark so It wont be done until late tonight. maybe tomorrow morning.


Oh, that's AWESOME, static, for your work on this!


It will help many, MANY people out there! I can't wait to watch it, cause the eff'n google translator translated as if drunk, high and znozzled out on opium, 'er sumthun. Jeez!


Thank you so very much for your efforts on behalf of many of us out there.


~Mozart

the_real_dave-id
8th November 2012, 21:52
First off Congratulations Bill! It's great to see your work finally seeing the light of day! Nice job, I think you and Kerry came off very well, and the info was important to get out there.

Unlike others here I was fine with the visual editing... I just wish the sfx had been a little less heavy-handed. There was plenty of intrigue and drama without those standard "UFO Show" sfx, which sort of take some of the believe-ability your show deserved away. One of the things that always drew me to Project Camelot's original interviews with you two was the lack of splashiness that is normally associated with less credible information.

But it sure was fun seeing you two on "real" TV. And I'll also add that your narration, Bill, lent authenticity that went a long way to cancel out some of the effect of the soundtrack!

Anyway... good job, I hope for you and Kerry's sakes (and everyone's sakes really) that they decide to ask for more. Be well.

crosby
8th November 2012, 22:41
i thought the show was great! i hope there are more in the future. i am very proud to say that i am a member of this forum where our founder is a star:first:
regards, corson

Tommy
8th November 2012, 22:46
Hi,

Just gonna post this again so all that wish to support a full season production of the show can voice their opinions :)


Do you wan't more of the Project Camelot TV-show?

Be sure to voice your opinion and make sure we are not silenced!

http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html

Phone: 800 268 7856

Let's be heard!

Rocky_Shorz
8th November 2012, 23:00
Dave Rosenfeld really had been intimidated by them in that location. We went out looking for the guards (to provoke a real altercation) -- but no-one turned up! So TruTV insisted that it was staged ('re-enacted'). We did think it was quite well done.

More later -- must go to an appointment, and no more time as I write this. Many thanks to all, again.

DO write to TruTV telling them that you liked the show... if you did! It makes a difference.

:)



I'm curious, normally I need to look into someone's eyes to connect, during Bill's show when the guards approached, I had flashes of a facility, and a person watching people go into the underground, but never knowing what was down there...

so the question is, if these guards had nothing to do with the facility, who was I looking through to see what I did...

was it an actual guard who was watching their movement remotely, or someone watching the TV program that knew...

they were not wanting for Bill to see the installation, or the activity, it meant danger for Bill and Kerry

so many people are lighting up now that it is making the lines blurry of who's who...

I'd be real curious to know where the two came from, were they locals that volunteered to act, and one was there as an insider to see what Bill knew?

or were they hauled in by the TV station... who knew...

lots of questions over this flash of intuition...

maybe this is why Jesse is so nervous, they infiltrated TruTV to watch what is shared...

astrid
8th November 2012, 23:05
from Kerry's blog ...

"LISTEN LIVE TODAY TO KERRY CASSIDY being interviewed by MIKE HARRIS on RENSE RADIO ... today at 1pm PST to 3pm.

Hear the latest Project Camelot news as well as her stories on what really happened behind the scenes of the TRU TV SHOW : SHADOW OPERATIONS: THE MARS PROJECT!

TODAY LIVE: http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm "

apokalypse
8th November 2012, 23:32
from first show i can see upcoming show would be on Roswell Incident-Free Energy technology and the Suppression-Annunaki and more on Government secrecy.

Hervé
9th November 2012, 00:24
"Comme par hasard" (seemingly coincidental)...



From: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/

The secret truth of UFO”s now uncovered


The Editor World News Tomorrow

http://www.worldnewstomorrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/UFO.shf_-300x180.png
All images copyright protected, vigorously enforced Counter Intelligence Agency

By Gordon Duff with Ricardo Baretzky


Veterans Today, working with Ricardo Baretzky, Operational Director of the Counter Intelligence Agency Asian desk has cracked NASA’s encryption block.

The craft shown above and in the video, we are informed, is in Australia without government approval. They don’t even know it is there.

This is an armed military craft, US Department of Defense, capable of use against any potential target on earth. Sources indicate that this craft has been used against “targets.”

There have been reports of unusual drone attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan where victims have dissolved or are found with their bodies in a “rubberized” state.

These are confirmed.

THE CRAFT
This allowed one of the TR 3C spacecraft to have been photographed at its mooring site in the Australian “outback,” where all “non classified” observation has been blocked.

This is the third version in the TR series, the first built in 1953. Full capabilities of this craft are classified.

This is a fully armed and operational craft, capable of planetary defense against any known weapons including but not limited to ICBMs.

The drive is said to be a mercury/rare earth plasma system and a highly classified “energy cannon.”

There are two types of systems in use, including a “round” UFO of gigantic size which is not of “terrestrial origin.”

Satellite imagery from within “Area 51″…in flight:


http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ScreenHunter_871-Nov.-08-14.33.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/screenhunter_871-nov-08-14-33/)
[the white blob has a shadow]

Partial failure of field generated camoflage of large craft moored in Area 51, a possible explanation of the “Phoenix Lights.”


http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ScreenHunter_873-Nov.-08-14.38.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/screenhunter_873-nov-08-14-38/)


Photograph of “Phoenix lights:”


http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ScreenHunter_874-Nov.-08-14.43.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/screenhunter_874-nov-08-14-43/)
July, 2008, Phoenix, AZ

WORLD NEWS TOMORROW -USA. For decades the UFOlogist have tried to proof the existence of UFO”s. Some believe they exist but although much evidence was presented with over 179 000 reported cases annually worldwide, the global entities persisted that they are a mere hoax and the fiction of the imagination of man.


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Now this story of a global security threat, is about to unfold. Ricardo Baretzky, one of the world leading global security threat analyst and specialist has taken the daunting task to once and for all provide that analytical proof that there was indeed some kind of global cover-up and not the imaginations of man but rather a fact of existence.

Several NASA images of Google maps that emerged were analyzed and interesting findings were made, that proof beyond any reasonable doubt that strange lights in the skies might not be your imagination at all, but a reality truck from your consciousness to avoid you to know the truth.

One image that emerged and brought clarity to light was that of the TR 3B, a so called secret black project denied by many officials of its existence. The mercury plasma driven triangular build UFO, is a technology that reaches and stretch far beyond our skies. With a estimated top speed of 17000 miles per hour, one should asked the questions why?

The myth of the UFO can now be once and for all be clarified. During the investigation it was discovered that the picture (see video below) emerged from a NASA Satellite taken in 2012 during flight over the Australian territory . It also come to light that some of google earth maps might have been altered to deliberately block out the images and seems to have been deleted from another versions in public use.

Baretzky said that more interesting pictures have emerged and is still at the counter intelligence laboratory for analyses, but so far it seems very promising and highly unlikely that these could be any false flag since they were taken by NASA’s own satellites in orbit.

The fact that this is an unedited satellite image from NASA published by google maps, makes it by no doubt the original evidence needed to procure the existence of these technologies. The coordinates of these NASA Google map images is as follow 30°30’38.86″ S /115°22’58.17″ E

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Someone trying to orchestrate something wouldn't do better...

Hughe
9th November 2012, 00:59
Dear Bill and Kerry,

Do you consider to produce nicely pact documentary films that connect all dots?
You have vast amount of invaluable multimedia data and documents, connections. You have capable supporters who can help the work, i.e. volunteer translators.

Daughter of Time
9th November 2012, 01:20
Congratulations Bill and Kerry!

It's a very fine show, well presented, balanced, with high quality information.

Bill, I'd heard your voice before in interviews, but paid more attention to it now. It has a very soothing quality, a strong but sincere tone and very pleasing to the ear.

Your presence is serious and powerful, as is Kerry's.

While I understand why many abhor TV, it cannot be denied that it is the most effective medium to reach the masses with information they would otherwise not have. In this regard, I highly prize television. I hope you will do more.

Best wishes for all future endeavours.

Sincerely,

Daughter of Time

modwiz
9th November 2012, 01:34
Congratulations Bill and Kerry!

It's a very fine show, well presented, balanced, with high quality information.

Bill, I'd heard your voice before in interviews, but paid more attention to it now. It has a very soothing quality, a strong but sincere tone and very pleasing to the ear.

Your presence is serious and powerful, as is Kerry's.

While I understand why many abhor TV, it cannot be denied that it is the most effective medium to reach the masses with information they would otherwise not have. In this regard, I highly prize television. I hope you will do more.

Best wishes for all future endeavours.

Sincerely,

Daughter of Time

I only abhor TV because of the way it is used and who owns it. It is a very powerful medium and could be used to transform this world in weeks or months. Currently, avoiding it and especially canceling subscriptions to it to prevent the funding of those who mean us psychological harm is more important than my words can convey. The airwaves are owned by the people, but government sells these frequencies to unfriendlies. The profit motive and advertising, along with subscription fees, involved with this medium insures that ample funding is available for the purchasing of integrity.

TV is power. How it is used is everything.

RunningDeer
9th November 2012, 01:37
Apologies if this is posted. Mods may want to delete. I'm still watching, but thought I'd post here just in case. Heading back...


The vid is called "Shadow Ops Pilot":

jYlskaysAvA

Daughter of Time
9th November 2012, 01:47
Congratulations Bill and Kerry!

It's a very fine show, well presented, balanced, with high quality information.

Bill, I'd heard your voice before in interviews, but paid more attention to it now. It has a very soothing quality, a strong but sincere tone and very pleasing to the ear.

Your presence is serious and powerful, as is Kerry's.

While I understand why many abhor TV, it cannot be denied that it is the most effective medium to reach the masses with information they would otherwise not have. In this regard, I highly prize television. I hope you will do more.

Best wishes for all future endeavours.

Sincerely,

Daughter of Time

I only abhor TV because of the way it is used and who owns it. It is a very powerful medium and could be used to transform this world in weeks or months. Currently, avoiding it and especially canceling subscriptions to it to prevent the funding of those who mean us psychological harm is more important than my words can convey. The airwaves are owned by the people, but government sells these frequencies to unfriendlies. The profit motive and advertising, along with subscription fees, involved with this medium insures that ample funding is available for the purchasing of integrity.

TV is power. How it is used is everything.

I fully agree!

Bill Ryan
9th November 2012, 02:23
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Hi again, All --

Checking in after a long day. Thanks once more for all your generous comments. :)

Of interest:

1) I'm editing a high quality, non-laterally-stretched version of the show, with no commercials, to upload to YouTube sometime tomorrow (within 24 hours). That should be a good, definitive version.

2) The information that Dave Rosenfeld provided about the Venture Star intrigued us.

I wonder how many of you noticed this? Here's a still shot from the first few minutes of the movie Avatar...

http://projectavalon.net/Avatar_Venture_Star.jpg

DeDukshyn
9th November 2012, 02:25
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...
I wonder how many of you noticed this? Here's a still shot from the first few minutes of the movie Avatar...

http://projectavalon.net/Avatar_Venture_Star.jpg

Good eye ... ;)

Flash
9th November 2012, 02:31
left this message at thru tv



You had a show yesterday called Shadow operations - the mars project.
It was intelligent, seemed well documented and pleasant. I would very much like to know more on the topic . Thanks for bringing fringe but intelligent shows


Easy to do really and it will help Bill and Kerry if you do..

http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html

Bill Ryan
9th November 2012, 02:34
left this message at tru tv



You had a show yesterday called Shadow operations - the mars project.
It was intelligent, seemed well documented and pleasant. I would very much like to know more on the topic . Thanks for bringing fringe but intelligent shows


Easy to do really and it will help Bill and Kerry if you do..

http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html

Thanks so much for this! (And thanks, everyone else who's contacted TruTV with positive feedback. It may make all the difference.)

seko
9th November 2012, 02:37
Thanks for the links, cause I don't have a TV.

It was great to see Bill and Kerry working together again. The pilot program was very much like the works of The History Channel, and it was worth the time.


I actually look forward to Bill's next interview with someone interesting like always. Bill is very well spoken, understandable, good pace and great questions that he brings forward to his guests.

KiwiElf
9th November 2012, 02:45
Have just downloaded the video and am about to watch it! ;) Thank you! :)

Great find also Amzer Zo! relating to the text... "UFO myth..."? yea,... some UFO's are ours but not ALL... Gordon Duff, shame on you :P

Supedad
9th November 2012, 02:52
I just sent a note to TruTv in via their contact form asking for more episodes. Who is next?

TigaHawk
9th November 2012, 02:52
Thankyou Bill!

I was wondering how i would be able to watch this show, and pass it on to friends and family when i do not have a TV connected to the Aerial, and no Foxtel either, so your show probably would not air over here for at least another year.

Me, not wanting to wait this long because i feel there is no good reason for it - would seek alternate means to ensure i could view this show!

Thankyou so much for putting it on Youtube!

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 04:04
left this message at tru tv



You had a show yesterday called Shadow operations - the mars project.
It was intelligent, seemed well documented and pleasant. I would very much like to know more on the topic . Thanks for bringing fringe but intelligent shows


Easy to do really and it will help Bill and Kerry if you do..

http://www.trutv.com/contact/index.html

Thanks so much for this! (And thanks, everyone else who's contacted TruTV with positive feedback. It may make all the difference.)

and for those of you with 10 email addresses... get to work... ;)

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 04:08
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Hi again, All --

Checking in after a long day. Thanks once more for all your generous comments. :)

Of interest:

1) I'm editing a high quality, non-laterally-stretched version of the show, with no commercials, to upload to YouTube sometime tomorrow (within 24 hours). That should be a good, definitive version.

2) The information that Dave Rosenfeld provided about the Venture Star intrigued us.

I wonder how many of you noticed this? Here's a still shot from the first few minutes of the movie Avatar...

http://projectavalon.net/Avatar_Venture_Star.jpg

RDA OVERSEAS VENTURES PVT. LTD aims at Producing innovative electronic systems solutions for...

first search made me chuckle, they wouldn't really make it that easy would they? ;)

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 04:26
for those of you who think this is science fiction or a movie fantasy, we've been watching these little guys over in Solar for a while...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18861&d=1350930526&thumb=1
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18749&d=1350524750&thumb=1
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2007/c2/20070407/20070407_0806_c2_512.jpg
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2012/c3/20120530/20120530_1006_c3_512.jpg

Marin
9th November 2012, 04:31
I just sent a note to TruTv in via their contact form asking for more episodes. Who is next?

Me. Just sent them an email as well. :)

nomadguy
9th November 2012, 04:34
Well wouldn't you know it, look who is going to be on C2C in a few days,

Physics Breakthrough
Date: 11-13-12
Host: George Noory
Guests: Sean Carroll

Theoretical physicist at Cal Tech, Sean Carroll, will discuss why he believes the discovery of the Higgs boson is perhaps the greatest breakthrough in our understanding of the universe since the splitting of the atom, and how it will launch particle physics on a new era of discovery.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/11/13

Hervé
9th November 2012, 04:39
for those of you who think this is science fiction or a movie fantasy, we've been watching these little guys over in Solar for a while...

[...]

Hi Rocky,

Could you run those pictures through something like MS Paint or equivalent and circle these little guys you mentioned?

Hervé
9th November 2012, 04:53
Well wouldn't you know it, look who is going to be on C2C in a few days,

Physics Breakthrough
Date: 11-13-12
Host: George Noory
Guests: Sean Carroll

Theoretical physicist at Cal Tech, Sean Carroll, will discuss why he believes the discovery of the Higgs boson is perhaps the greatest breakthrough in our understanding of the universe since the splitting of the atom, and how it will launch particle physics on a new era of discovery.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/11/13

It definitely seems like there's somebody with a wand that makes things to suddenly appear out from under the wood pile...


"Daniel"'s publications suddenly poped up;
Kerry's summary for the "White Hats" report # 48;
"Shadow Operations: The Mars Project" got freed from under someone's elbow;
David Wilcock recent blog post, blowing his horn;
VeteransToday's article on TRBs
and this one above!
Seems like the magic wand is that of an orchestra conductor... directing a flood of data into the media stream... one just needs to sift the flotsams from the jetsams and discern which one to keep.

modwiz
9th November 2012, 05:05
Have just downloaded the video and am about to watch it! ;) Thank you! :)

Great find also Amzer Zo! relating to the text... "UFO myth..."? yea,... some UFO's are ours but not ALL... Gordon Duff, shame on you :P

This quote is from his latest article... today:

"There are two types of systems in use, including a “round” UFO of gigantic size which is not of “terrestrial origin.”


I think his quotations mean, "not ours".
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 05:16
they've been trying to give us disclosure, I asked who was protecting us from the sun every time a sunspot with devastating power swung towards us...

they told me to look at an image on a .mil site :photo:

19142

doesn't look like black ops to me...

are they working with us?

why are they protecting us...

soo many questions...

modwiz
9th November 2012, 05:26
they've been trying to give us disclosure, I asked who was protecting us from the sun every time a sunspot with devastating power swung towards us...

they told me to look at an image on a .mil site :photo:

19142

doesn't look like black ops to me...

are they working with us?

why are they protecting us...

soo many questions...

James Horak says they are the same beings that Bergrun observed working on the rings of Saturn and wrote a book/report about. These spacesips are massive, bigger than out Moon, and they are tending the Sun. Horak says there are certain actions on Earth that would make them stop tending to things and that would not bode well for us.

They are benevolent beings. Should we cross a line and become a threat to the sector some might not view them as benevolent because of what they would allow our Sun to do. It is all a matter of perspective.

Any good unedited picture of the Sun shows these vehicles all over the place. I have counted dozens myself.

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2012, 05:27
they disappeared right when our world was on the verge of jumping into WW III, they let us get blasted by a few small flares before reappearing...



Have just downloaded the video and am about to watch it! ;) Thank you! :)

Great find also Amzer Zo! relating to the text... "UFO myth..."? yea,... some UFO's are ours but not ALL... Gordon Duff, shame on you :P

This quote is from his latest article... today:

"There are two types of systems in use, including a “round” UFO of gigantic size which is not of “terrestrial origin.”


I think his quotations mean, "not ours".
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/08/228582/

these appeared out of nowhere early summer, then disappeared, from the top right to the lower left, they reappeared again...

19143

KiwiElf
9th November 2012, 05:37
Hehe, Sorry Modwiz, was bein a bit tongue-in-cheek, I'm a big fan of Duff's ;) - his lead-in header is a bit contradictory too... "The secret truth of UFO”s now uncovered" ... ;) But point taken :)

Have just managed to watch the video. Thank you Bill & Kerry (and all involved) - Awesome job and I hope we see more soon :)

ThePythonicCow
9th November 2012, 05:37
Well wouldn't you know it, look who is going to be on C2C in a few days,

Physics Breakthrough
Date: 11-13-12
Host: George Noory
Guests: Sean Carroll

Theoretical physicist at Cal Tech, Sean Carroll, will discuss why he believes the discovery of the Higgs boson is perhaps the greatest breakthrough in our understanding of the universe since the splitting of the atom, and how it will launch particle physics on a new era of discovery.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/11/13
Sean Carroll presents his book and an overview of what he's saying about the Higgs boson, in text and video, on this page of his: http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/particle/

Paladin14
9th November 2012, 05:39
found the show on youtube jYlskaysAvA

gripreaper
9th November 2012, 05:39
Well wouldn't you know it, look who is going to be on C2C in a few days,

Physics Breakthrough
Date: 11-13-12
Host: George Noory
Guests: Sean Carroll

Theoretical physicist at Cal Tech, Sean Carroll, will discuss why he believes the discovery of the Higgs boson is perhaps the greatest breakthrough in our understanding of the universe since the splitting of the atom, and how it will launch particle physics on a new era of discovery.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/11/13

It definitely seems like there's somebody with a wand that makes things to suddenly appear out from under the wood pile...


"Daniel"'s publications suddenly poped up;
Kerry's summary for the "White Hats" report # 48;
"Shadow Operations: The Mars Project" got freed from under someone's elbow;
David Wilcock recent blog post, blowing his horn;
VeteransToday's article on TRBs
and this one above!
Seems like the magic wand is that of an orchestra conductor... directing a flood of data into the media stream... one just needs to sift the flotsams from the jetsams and discern which one to keep.

Yes, all coincidence, right?

Or, a mandate from somewhere (fill in possible sources here) to either get the truth out now, or else (fill in possible scenario's here).

Let the games begin!

modwiz
9th November 2012, 05:55
Look at 7 o'clock and 10 o'clock in this pic. 7 has pretty good detail.
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2012/11/09/behind/euvi/195/1024/20121109_004530_n7euB_195.jpg

At 9 and 11:30
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2012/11/09/behind/euvi/195/1024/20121109_005530_n7euB_195.jpg

A nice one at 6 o'clock.
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2012/11/09/behind/euvi/195/1024/20121109_021530_n7euB_195.jpg

Hervé
9th November 2012, 06:33
These "little" guys are huge!

As large if not larger than Mercury.

STATIC
9th November 2012, 06:44
Oh my god. Just finished the captions. Don't think I've ever typed so many words in one sitting. I have carpal tunnel now and feel like a total robot.

Anywhoo, it's live on all the vids above, so enjoy Mozart :)

I'm going to :sleep: now.

modwiz
9th November 2012, 06:45
These "little" guys are huge!

As large if not larger than Mercury.

Yes. They make the Independence Day ones look like toys, or platelets. LOL

Tommy
9th November 2012, 07:00
Just snapped this, and thought of the venture star. It is from the series Star Trek: Enterprise.. And I am sure most know how Star Trek have been utilized for soft tech disclosure :)

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/176664_10151290322384976_1446488284_o.jpg

bennycog
9th November 2012, 09:04
i sent my message to both trutv and fishbowl media.. i hope every little bit helps get you on that stage bill.. you need to be there mate..

"shadow operations" was a fantastic show because of it's information.. it needed to be longer and maybe less editing so people can get the full value out of it. it is and will be a brilliant show for television.. on every ones television.. i have watched Bill and Kerry do their stuff from the beginning and with your support they could make fantastic change for this world..
so thank you
benny

khissi
9th November 2012, 11:55
Venture Star was supposed to look like this.
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/X-33/Small/EC96-43631-2.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-k1OWsLACU0Y/TZN8KDyZ43I/AAAAAAAAAD0/Wq8T2KROktY/s1600/VentureStar_Shuttle_Comparison.PNG

Project was supposed to significantly lower the costs of launching satellites into orbit, as much as 10x that of Space Shuttle.

But, who needs conventional craft, when you have MUCH more advanced stuff from secret space program.

Elly
9th November 2012, 12:05
Congratulations Bill and Kerry!

The show is done in the same format as Conspiracy Theory and Decoded. Gosh, the editing is quite nauseating (for an ADD type audience).
But it brings something these other shows don't: a comprehensive view. Connecting the dots to the one issue.

As Bob Dean said: It's dynamite!

Alie
9th November 2012, 12:34
Well wouldn't you know it, look who is going to be on C2C in a few days,

Physics Breakthrough
Date: 11-13-12
Host: George Noory
Guests: Sean Carroll

Theoretical physicist at Cal Tech, Sean Carroll, will discuss why he believes the discovery of the Higgs boson is perhaps the greatest breakthrough in our understanding of the universe since the splitting of the atom, and how it will launch particle physics on a new era of discovery.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/11/13

It definitely seems like there's somebody with a wand that makes things to suddenly appear out from under the wood pile...


"Daniel"'s publications suddenly poped up;
Kerry's summary for the "White Hats" report # 48;
"Shadow Operations: The Mars Project" got freed from under someone's elbow;
David Wilcock recent blog post, blowing his horn;
VeteransToday's article on TRBs
and this one above!
Seems like the magic wand is that of an orchestra conductor... directing a flood of data into the media stream... one just needs to sift the flotsams from the jetsams and discern which one to keep.


Let me add one more: last friday night on CSI New York the character "Adam" was pondering a fragment found when draining a pond in Central Park (maybe there or some water source in NYC) any way he thought it was a piece from a space ship. They let this theory stay on for nearly the whole hour and it made you think that the main character MAC, was agreeing with him that it had an alien source. To me, it was very believable and I thought ... now it begins.

Billy
9th November 2012, 12:45
Well done Bill and Kerry. I downloaded the Utube Video last night and when i put myself in Joe Blogs shoes i thought it was very informative and well presented. Loads of information there for one to take interest and research further.

I am curious to know how many viewers would have watched the show live.
When i downloaded the Utube video last night there was only 127 views but i see today that has risen to 10.626 views.

Another seed of disclosure has been planted. Way to go guys.

Peace

Gardener
9th November 2012, 13:02
Grip --->
Yes, all coincidence, right?

Or, a mandate from somewhere (fill in possible sources here) to either get the truth out now, or else (fill in possible scenario's here).

How about the collective consciousness of mankind is driving events unfolding because we approach an event horizon. I can only imagine that disclosure is not a deliberate act but one which the 'monolith' is working 24/7 doing damage control on all fronts.

Awesome and articulate show and i am so grateful to those who made it possible for us to watch from remote areas. The 'flash-bang' type edit was not easy to watch but its not about us and preaching to the converted, its about setting the alarm clock for as many as possible to wake when they hear it.

Bill Ryan
9th November 2012, 13:15
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For those of you who are skilled at manifestation... :)

Here's a potential episode list (extending over two seasons) that I proposed nearly two years ago:





• MOON
-- The Apollo hoax / Lunar structures / Kubrick’s role / The Hollow Moon / Silenced astronauts / The ET presence

• SECRET SPACE
-- Starships in the desert / The Aurora and Venture Star / Mars in 33 hours / US Space Command / To Infinity and Beyond

• NAZI UFOs
-- The SS and the Occult / Hitler’s Flying Saucers / Maria Orsic and the Vril Society / The Nazi Bell / Project Paperclip / Nazi International

• ETs AMONG US
-- Stranger in the Pentagon / ET Hunters / Galactic Human Blueprint / Reptilians Below Us / Tall Blonds and Short Grays / Hybrids and Star Visitors

• ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS
-- Was God an Astronaut? / The Anunnaki in Sumeria / Levitating giant stones / Carvings, Skulls and Pyramids / Ancient Art with Modern Themes

• PLANET X
-- The Legend of Nibiru / The Sun’s little brother / Robert Harrington and the Tenth Planet / Zecharia Sitchin / The South Pole Telescope / The Threat to Planet Earth

• TIME TRAVEL
-- The Chronovisor and the Vatican / Secrets of the Montauk Project / Project Looking Glass / Time Traveling Future Humans / John Titor: Back to the Future

• STARGATES
-- Wormholes in Space / Jumproom to Mars / The Secret of Babylon / The Stargate of Aramu Muru / The Truth of Stargate SG1

• MK-ULTRA / MIND CONTROL
-- Perfect Assassins / The Control of Candy Jones / The Murder of John Lennon / The Mind Control of Populations / Ultimate Warriors

• BLOODLINES TO ET
-- The Bloodline Conspiracy / The Da Vinci Code / The Rulers of the World / Mongrels, Mutts and Monarchs / Project: Human DNA / ET was our Ancestor

• ABDUCTIONS
-- Nocturnal Visitors / Missing Time / Humanity 2.0 / MILABs: The Role of the Military / Alien Implants / Pregnant – or was I? / The Chosen Ones

• STAR CHILDREN
-- Volunteers, Star Kids and Star Seeds / Not from Round Here / Indigo Boy from Mars

• BLACK PROJECTS
Black technology / The Roswell legacy / Reverse-engineered craft / Beyond Solar Warden: superluminal space travel / What's really in our skies

Alie
9th November 2012, 13:46
Watch your influence EXPLODE Kerry & Bill. I just can't get over the timing of the release. What you managed to pack into 45 minutes ---- bankster owned monetary system, shadow government, ETs, jump rooms, secret space programs, free energy, petroleum dollar, plus major players.

norman
9th November 2012, 14:00
I bet we've got all the talent we need to do this stuff here at Avalon/Camelot.

Getting on the telly is the same old same old difficulty.

I wouldn't like to be responsible for having the Internet shut down, but a web based TV site must be getting quite doable by now.

The tricky bit is 'directing' and 'producing' Bill and Kerry. Who's up for that?


However, all this wishful thinking ain't going to get us anywhere if we don't have 'friends' in high places who want us to. Then there's the question "why do they want us to?".

I think the answer to that is that ALL these issues are very global in nature. The people in high places are going to encourage almost anything that takes the public consciousness towards a global think. They won't mind too much what the nitty gritty details are about, they can dominate all of it with their own agenda and spin via engineered crisis and a gradual lowering of the whole paradigm into a prepared endgame.

They still have the numbers game very much working in their favour. Even after a couple of series of "truth" telly, they'll have the upper hand with a majority of people only seeing what we are talking about from afar and only picking up on a partial 'essence' of it which will be the more general theme of it, the 'global' view of it, and playing right into the hands of the cabal who can orchestrate and conjure their own 'global' view out of it.

I'm becoming more and more sure that we are being 'pincered' tactically in the sense that there are two completely polar opposites that need to be addressed at the same time.

On the one hand, we need to dismantle the globalists system by going the opposite direct, that is, fragmenting backwards away from 'global'.

On the other hand, we all are pretty sure by now that there is a huge issue on a planetary scale that needs to be dealt with.

Those two opposing causes are a serious tactical handicap for us.

For me, the delightful thought of us raising our 'global' game is very much dampened by the thought of the cabal still having enough power over us to hijack that effort and morph it ( via their mastery of the numbers game ) into something horribly final for our human spirit.

Ok, that's a tad pessimistic, but, I hope some of you can see what I mean and put a positive spin on it for me.

Kimberley
9th November 2012, 14:32
Oh my god. Just finished the captions. Don't think I've ever typed so many words in one sitting. I have carpal tunnel now and feel like a total robot.

Anywhoo, it's live on all the vids above, so enjoy Mozart :)

I'm going to :sleep: now.

Static thank you for all your typing!!! I do not need the words written out however know other do and you have served them well!!

Much love! :hug:

jYlskaysAvA

RMorgan
9th November 2012, 15:07
Hey Bill,

Nice show! Just finished watching it.

Well, about your proposed themes for possible future episodes, I think you should be careful with some specific subjects.

If you´re going to talk about Sitchin, Nibiru, Anunaki and the Sumerians, make sure to interview serious Ancient Language scholars, because they say that Sitchin´s translations are completely bogus; and they can prove it.

Also, in my opinion, the Ancient Aliens subject should be the center of one of your shows only if you really have something new to show.

These are very worn out subjects (Sitchin/Ancient Aliens), with tons of misleading information orbiting around them.

Just my two cents! :)

Cheers,

Raf.

Neal
9th November 2012, 15:25
Bill, I thought it was great to see you and Kerry together on camera again. The show was well thought out and you managed to get a lot of talking points into the mix. Great job and let's hope you get more episodes aired.

Congrats!

The only downside was our house lost power for about 3-4 minutes so, unfortunately, the Bob Dean section for me was cut short.

jagman
9th November 2012, 15:26
I got on Coast to Coast last night and I was the last caller and they ran out of time. I was going to send a shout to PA
and I was also going to plug Shadow Operations. Tonight is open lines and I will try again. lol

Adi
9th November 2012, 15:35
Just sent an Email to Trutv, expressing my gratitude for airing the documentary, and hoping to see future episodes on TV. Well done Bill and Kerry.

Adi

BMJ
9th November 2012, 15:43
Great start with a topic that should have a wide appeal to many new comers to the alternative media, that would provide a good foot in the door for anyone curious about this topic and the alternative media. The right people were interviewed to provide new comers with an introduction to Bob D, Richard H, David W, and Bill and Kerry and corridors to further investigations.

Great work Bill and Kerry I hope their are more episodes, but even if not, a great way to further awaken more people to the reality on earth.

ulli
9th November 2012, 15:46
Free energy would be great as a next one.
Even if only to make more people aware of Wade Frazier's site a www.ahealedplanet.net

BMJ
9th November 2012, 15:47
[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;581367]-------

For those of you who are skilled at manifestation... :)

Here's a potential episode list (extending over two seasons) that I proposed nearly two years ago:
• BLOODLINES TO ET
-- The Bloodline Conspiracy / The Da Vinci Code / The Rulers of the World / Mongrels, Mutts and Monarchs / Project: Human DNA / ET was our Ancestor

I would agree with RMorgan tread carefully we want you guys around for along time.

jagman
9th November 2012, 16:49
I still think Bill and Kerry should add another person to the mix. I'm not talking about a debunker. I think a well spoken open minded conscientious observer would be best suited.Kinda like our Raf. I think it would give the show more street cred and it would give Kerry an outlet.You know somone to bicker with besides Bill lol

Mozart
9th November 2012, 16:51
I just sent a note to TruTv in via their contact form asking for more episodes. Who is next?

Me. Just sent them an email as well. :)

Me too!

Here's what I sent to them, just in case you wanted to see what one wrote:


Greetings,

I could not find a category under "Shadow Operations", so I had to choose "Conspiracy Theory".

I want to let you know that I'm THRILLED to see Shadow Operations on your schedule and that I VERY STRONGLY encourage you to rapidly develop this pilot program into a full-fledged program ASAP.

Very soon the disclosures about these secret, shadow programs will break out into the open, so the sooner that you develop the pilot into a full-fledged program, per Bill Ryan's suggestions, the sooner you'd be able to cash in on the sudden and massive public interest that would surely develop once this shadow information finally breaks into the light.

So, PLEASE DO immediately develop the Shadow Operations pilot into a full-fledged program on your station.

~Mozart ... (I used my real name, but I'm putting "Mozart" in here.)

RMorgan
9th November 2012, 17:05
I still think Bill and Kerry should add another person to the mix. I'm not talking about a debunker. I think a well spoken open minded conscientious observer would be best suited.Kinda like our Raf. I think it would give the show more street cred and it would give Kerry an outlet.You know somone to bicker with besides Bill lol

I agree Jagman,

A true skeptic, meaning an open-minded, unbiased person, with a serious investigative spirit would really add credibility to the show.

This is exactly what lacks in similar themed shows; They usually are very biased and always take the direction that aligns more with their core beliefs, ignoring or omitting the other side of the debated subjects, which is a serious mistake.

Cheers,

Raf.

M6*
9th November 2012, 19:24
Hey Bill!

I may suffer from "Technophobia" (Left over from another time and place I'm sure!) but I sure am with you, and not at all bewildered, concerning this wonderful list of future programs!!

Hang in there, and BELIEVE it will happen, as we all need the tools to work with when talking to "Joe Sixpack". Now, back to working on my MANIFESTATION skills! :-) Have a good day! M6*

Flash
9th November 2012, 19:28
I still think Bill and Kerry should add another person to the mix. I'm not talking about a debunker. I think a well spoken open minded conscientious observer would be best suited.Kinda like our Raf. I think it would give the show more street cred and it would give Kerry an outlet.You know somone to bicker with besides Bill lol

I agree Jagman,

A true skeptic, meaning an open-minded, unbiased person, with a serious investigative spirit would really add credibility to the show.

This is exactly what lacks in similar themed shows; They usually are very biased and always take the direction that aligns more with their core beliefs, ignoring or omitting the other side of the debated subjects, which is a serious mistake.

Cheers,

Raf.

It also makes the shows that much more interesting, Sculy and Mulder, the cigar guy will show up by himself, just adding up a constant bugger, questionning (instead of challenging as Ventura does).

When I think of it further, I may be having a non american view here, this would be like most by Europeans. Americans do not question that much anything these days (talking about the general public of course) whereas if you do not ask questions in Europe, you are out of your mind, wherever you are, whomever you are.

M6*
9th November 2012, 19:33
Love that Poster, Tommy. Thanks so much!! M6*

truth4me
9th November 2012, 21:25
Bill, if you guys do one on the Reptilians make sure Jesse Ventura is nowhere around to do a hack job on you like he did David Icke....

4evrneo
9th November 2012, 21:27
I am so bummed I could not see it as I dont watch tv. But I certainly will as soon as its on youtube or somewhere on the internet.

Very awesome Bill & Kerry !

ThePythonicCow
9th November 2012, 22:51
I am so bummed I could not see it as I dont watch tv. But I certainly will as soon as its on youtube or somewhere on the internet.
There are several posts earlier in this thread with Youtube and other video links to "Bill and Kerry's Pilot - Shadow Operations - The Mars Project" :)

AlkaMyst
9th November 2012, 23:14
OK guys, just finished uploading the full episode without the commercials to YouTube.....had to chage my account settings to be able to upload videos longer than 10 minutes, here it is......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nt1x1Rvi2g

Hughe
10th November 2012, 01:14
Ugly side of Carl Sagan.

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/brian_o_leary_interview_transcript_en.html


BO’L: Yes. Well, for one thing, Carl was very angry I left Cornell when I did. It was… One very cold snowy day in May, I landed in Syracuse, and there was a horizontal blizzard -- in May -- and I said: That’s it for upstate New York. And Carl thought that was very frivolous. Because, of course, he was kind of an empire-builder kind of guy; and he also had a huge ego.

It was only later, when I began to embrace the UFO phenomenon and the cover-up, studying all these organizations that were covering up, and having some direct experience, myself, as a researcher no longer beholden to funding from NASA or the university environment, that I began to double-check some of Carl’s work.

I saw, for example, the famous “Face” in Cydonia on Mars, photographed by Viking in 1975, which shows this gigantic mesa that resembles a human face, about a mile across. Carl and I debated this.

It was very, very disappointing to me, because not only was Carl wrong, he also fudged data. He published a picture of the “Face” in Parade Magazine, a popular article, saying that the “Face” was just a natural formation, but he doctored the picture to make it not look like a face.

I began to realize, just directly from the scientific point of view, not only hearsay, that this man was colluding with NASA, that there might be more to this than before. And then, when I started studying things like MJ12 and other organizations that were covering up the UFO phenomenon…

Carl was on a committee with a number of notable people. There was a report issued by the Brookings Institution in 1961 -- and that’s about when I knew Carl, during those years; the ’60s mostly was when I worked closely with him -- that he and this other group said: Well, if any ETs ever showed up on the Earth, it has to be covered up. That’s the only way we’re going to be able to manage this, because if we can’t, then it would be too much of a culture shock.

So their recommendation to the government in 1961 was to cover up the UFO phenomenon, and I think in a way that provided a justification for the ongoing cover-up way back in ’61 -- was to keep things secret. And of course they still are.

Mozart
10th November 2012, 01:56
OK guys, just finished uploading the full episode without the commercials to YouTube.....had to chage my account settings to be able to upload videos longer than 10 minutes, here it is......




That's great that you did that, AlkaMyst.


Can you also upload the version that has the subtitles to also be commercial-free? It's somewhere on this thread.


~Mozart

Dr. Al
10th November 2012, 01:59
Does anyone know how we can get to see it if we missed the TV showing?
So glad it was aired! Great work guys...infinite love & gratitude ;-)

ThePythonicCow
10th November 2012, 02:03
Does anyone know how we can get to see it if we missed the TV showing?
See just a few posts above: Post #201 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm&p=581700&viewfull=1#post581700), amongst other posts on this thread that posted Youtube or video links.

modwiz
10th November 2012, 02:07
OK guys, just finished uploading the full episode without the commercials to YouTube.....had to chage my account settings to be able to upload videos longer than 10 minutes, here it is......




That's great that you did that, AlkaMyst.


Can you also upload the version that has the subtitles to also be commercial-free? It's somewhere on this thread.


~Mozart

Yes, great effort AlkaMyst. BTW, I have some light dusting that needs to...........oh nevermind. :p:rolleyes:

Bill Ryan
10th November 2012, 02:31
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Hi, All -- I've just finished editing a definitive version that has no commercials, features a short introduction, and has the correct aspect (height/width) ratio of the video. It's exporting now (a long process!), and will be on the Avalon AlphaZebra channel of YouTube within 24 hours.

AlkaMyst
10th November 2012, 02:46
Mozart

That's great that you did that, AlkaMyst.


Can you also upload the version that has the subtitles to also be commercial-free? It's somewhere on this thread.


~Mozart

Funny thing is that I have tried every possible way to get the video with CC embedded here but I can't seemed to get it done, but just so you know if you click on the youtube icon on the video and what it on youtube it does have the closed caption capabilities.....I just tried it and it works, give it a shot!

Bill

Hi, All -- I've just finished editing a definitive version that has no commercials, features a short introduction, and has the correct aspect (height/width) ratio of the video. It's exporting now (a long process!), and will be on the Avalon AlphaZebra channel of YouTube within 24 hours.

Thank you so much, I can't wait to watch this on a higher quality.......much appreciated!!!

Blessings,
Alk@Myst

vilcabamba
10th November 2012, 03:17
Bill, it was awesome! So professionally done! BRAVO!!!!

STATIC
10th November 2012, 03:46
I corrected all the mistakes of overlaps and typo's this morning on the one I posted (my punctuation would still have my English teachers red ink all over it. I did my best )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU-D36sZVwYsfAVqeAXDiT_w&v=jYlskaysAvA&feature=player_detailpage

I have the file for the captions but it wont be compatible with a video with other timing. I didn't record it in full HD because the file would have been like 200GB. A bit much to compress for youtube :)

I hope the 20,000 views (24hour's) on it will help to inspire tru(e) tv pursue this show.

I don't think I said anything before, but what a breath of fresh air to see highly intelligent people on regular tv. (that never happen's)

I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I would be willing to write more captions for any new videos you guys produce. I would make sure they are up to my English teachers standards;) haha plz. don't take me up on that. It was exhausting but it felt very good to think i was helping bring some truth to somebody that can't hear so well. up to you guys.

In with shadow ops, out with conspiracy theory :becky:

Jake
10th November 2012, 04:48
Bravo, Bill!!! I have watched it several times now, and so has my wife. It is soo refreshing to see a documentary like this, with You and Kerry... The voice-over sounded very smooth and professional. After seeing so many vids of Bob Dean and David Wilcox, and Richard Hoagland, the pilot left me hanging on the edge of my seat. There is more there for many more shows. I have a new favorite show... Jake.

Mozart
10th November 2012, 04:56
...but just so you know if you click on the youtube icon on the video and what it on youtube it does have the closed caption capabilities.....I just tried it and it works, give it a shot!




Thank you for your comment on this, AlkaMyst, but the problem with the captions that you mentioned is that they are ALWAYS computer-generated captions and they AWAYS eff up like you will not believe.


If you like comedy, just watch a whole episode with the damn computerized "cc" thing -- OMFG, it's funny, sometimes, but for a dude like me who really needs good captioning, it makes me want to get a bazooka and blast whoever created the stupid, lame-assed computer programs that can't translate ****.


~Mozart

apokalypse
10th November 2012, 04:58
anyone watched sci fi TV series Fringe in here? just surf around and i saw this title for Yesterday Episode of The Fringe "Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found There" Project Looking Glass popup in my head right away.

Mozart
10th November 2012, 05:04
I corrected all the mistakes of overlaps and typo's this morning on the one I posted (my punctuation would still have my English teachers red ink all over it. I did my best)




I'd like to give a big SHOUT-OUT THANK YOU to Static, for doing this work on subtitling on this vid. To be clear, the subtitles -- what you worked on -- are the lettering that you can see through and around each letter; the closed-captioning -- the big, black bars with letters in the bars that you see on TV -- are the kinds that are used for mainstream TV and movie programs.


But more and more subtitles are now being used, instead of closed-captioning, and for good reason, as the damn closed-captioning totally, effing blocks out the screen where it's at, so when you have three lines of closed-captioning, then that really effs up the screen and ruins the movie experience.


I'll watch the cleaned-up version and see how much better it is. I'll keep my red pen handy, just in case. ;-)


~Mozart

STATIC
10th November 2012, 05:10
anyone watched sci fi TV series Fringe in here? just surf around and i saw this title for Yesterday Episode of The Fringe "Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found There" Project Looking Glass popup in my head right away.

Watched the whole series...

I was hooked.

A mind bender for sure. I absolutely loved Walter's character.

STATIC
10th November 2012, 05:16
I corrected all the mistakes of overlaps and typo's this morning on the one I posted (my punctuation would still have my English teachers red ink all over it. I did my best)




I'd like to give a big SHOUT-OUT THANK YOU to Static, for doing this work on subtitling on this vid. To be clear, the subtitles -- what you worked on -- are the lettering that you can see through and around each letter; the closed-captioning -- the big, black bars with letters in the bars that you see on TV -- are the kinds that are used for mainstream TV and movie programs.


But more and more subtitles are now being used, instead of closed-captioning, and for good reason, as the damn closed-captioning totally, effing blocks out the screen where it's at, so when you have three lines of closed-captioning, then that really effs up the screen and ruins the movie experience.


I'll watch the cleaned-up version and see how much better it is. I'll keep my red pen handy, just in case. ;-)


~Mozart

Hehe, I guess I never knew the actual meaning of CC. No matter. I saw that comment of yours and imagined i couldn't hear what they were saying after being a member of this forum. Had to do something about that.

ghostrider
10th November 2012, 05:53
this is truly ground breaking and real disclosure, planting the seed in the minds of viewers who may have never heard of jumprooms, or the secret space program. somebody make the rabbit hole a little bigger we gonna have company.

Tommy
10th November 2012, 09:40
From Kerry's blog today:

"Friday, 09 November 2012 18:47
Written by Kerry Cassidy
I said I would reveal the behind the scenes info on what really happened on the making of our recently aired PILOT FOR TruTV: SHADOW OPERATIONS: THE MARS PROJECT...

So here it is.

First off, they wanted to kill the show... They put it on the shelf for 2 years and then when they released it they did NO ADVANCE ADVERTISING WHAT SO EVER....

In fact, they did NOT notify us, the other stars (our witnesses) or the Production Company (Fishbowl) or our original producer in advance of the airing. NO NOTICE. Not to our agent and not to our producer.

The ONLY way we found out within 24 hours was from a Camelot supporter who happened to see the show LISTED in their daily schedule... and notified us.

We then kicked into gear... with our very small Camelot team, and made a poster, and started sending messages out urging our supporters to WATCH IT LIVE so it would get the necessary RATINGS that would make it go to Series.

Of course even with our substantial following on the net it doesn't come close to the lowest rated show on TV simply because mainstream TV viewers are in the many millions even those watching stupid **** like pawn shop stories, auto theft and other brain-dead fare.

Of course they KNOW THIS and so this is how they kill a show. They aired it, to satisfy advertisers and most likely their commitment to the production company. But without advance notice the show was guaranteed to get buried.

What they didn't factor in is YOU. Our loyal fans and supporters. Because of you we actually got rated... not great but we made a showing. Pretty damn good with no advance notice. AND much more importantly you are now making THIS SHOW A SUCCESS because YOU are sending it viral. And we want to thank you on behalf of all of humanity because without this show... most of humanity STAYS IN THE DARK never the wiser... about the truth behind the Matrix, the black projects and secret space program that is stealing money and lives from YOU in order for it to survive.

REMEMBER REMEMBER THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER.... SO SAYETH THE V FOR VENDETTA film... http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta_(film)

PLEASE GET THE TRUTH OUT.... continue to send this show out to the far corners of the PLANET... let's make sure our brothers and sisters REMEMBER WHO THEY ARE... and let's take back this planet from those who would use and abuse us and our families....

Thank you. PROJECT CAMELOT: GET THE TRUTH OUT

http://projectcamelotportal.com/images/SHADOWOP.jpg

http://youtu.be/jYlskaysAvA
"
http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1415-shadow-ops-the-tv-show-trutv-wanted-to-kill

ThePythonicCow
10th November 2012, 10:26
The ONLY way we found out within 24 hours was from a Camelot supporter who happened to see the show LISTED in their daily schedule... and notified us.
Thanks for posting that, Tommy. Well said by Kerry.

Minor detail - I think it was Avalon member, mountain_jim, in the opening post of this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm&p=580095&viewfull=1#post580095), who initially saw the listing and started the ball rolling, by posting this very thread.

Thanks, mountain_jim :).

Tommy
10th November 2012, 10:48
The ONLY way we found out within 24 hours was from a Camelot supporter who happened to see the show LISTED in their daily schedule... and notified us.
Thanks for posting that, Tommy. Well said by Kerry.

Minor detail - I think it was Avalon member, mountain_jim, in the opening post of this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm&p=580095&viewfull=1#post580095), who initially saw the listing and started the ball rolling, by posting this very thread.

Thanks, mountain_jim :).

Yeah, I personally saw it from mountain_jim first myself, maybe it was mountain_jim who e-mailed us too?

Anyways, thanks mountain_jim, much appreciated :)

ThePythonicCow
10th November 2012, 10:54
Yeah, I personally saw it from mountain_jim first myself, maybe it was mountain_jim who e-mailed us too?
I saw mountain_jim's post, and emailed you, Kerry and Bill. See Post #2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm&p=580131&viewfull=1#post580131), above.

Tommy
10th November 2012, 11:32
Yeah, I personally saw it from mountain_jim first myself, maybe it was mountain_jim who e-mailed us too?
I saw mountain_jim's post, and emailed you, Kerry and Bill. See Post #2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51757-Bill-and-Kerry-s-Pilot-Shadow-Operations-The-Mars-Project-on-Tru-TV-11-7-11pm&p=580131&viewfull=1#post580131), above.

Yeah, I remember that, but there were a few other e-mails at the time as well, at least one before, which neither me or Kerry saw at first as we were both out at the time, then I checked avalon while doing my news round and saw the post, then wen't to my e-mail and everything was crazy :)

But like I said, I saw it here myself personally, no idea where Kerry saw it first or who she saw it from other than a quick call from me saying I saw it posted here.

But in the end, the important thing is that it came out, and technically it is a "Project Camelot" show, so per definition even if it came from here first (which is very well might have done for all I know) it would be correct to say it was a "Camelot supporter" all considering.

Don't see the huge relevance myself, but if anyone sees this as wrong in any way I am sure it can be changed if it were the case.

:)

mountain_jim
10th November 2012, 13:20
I see this as entertaining and warming to have been able to contribute to moving this ball forward in this (admittedly small) way. :)

(I said all along that I have no doubt others were seeing this on their tv guides and getting the word out with emails or posts, perhaps at Camelot forum, also.)

And I very much do consider myself a 'Camelot supporter', just not a member of the current Camelot forum. It was a link to a Project Camelot Dan Burisch video from a music discussion forum that helped me find my way to all this some years ago.

(It was alt.conspiracy and alt.conspiracy.jfk usenet groups, before there were really web-sites, that got me started down this path. Later WhatReallyHappened and other websites advanced my search, but it was Project Camelot interviews, and the books of Jim Marrs, Richard Dolan, and the free books online of Wilcock, among others, that really moved my understanding of 'Shadow Operations' forward beyond my 'spiritual' understandings gained from shamanic experiments/experiences.)

Just having the post up a day early here at Avalon assured that many of our 'silent readership' got the notice..

Bill Ryan
10th November 2012, 15:15
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Dear All,

I'm closing this thread (with my thanks once more to everyone for your kind and intelligent comments) -- and starting another one, with a definitive high-quality version of the video, on my own section.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51891-The-Project-Camelot-TruTV-pilot-episode-SHADOW-OPERATIONS-The-Mars-Project

I do appreciate all those who worked hard to upload the recorded video to YouTube, create captions, etc. My uploading a new version -- amended and edited directly from the DVD of the final cut of the pilot episode -- does not invalidate anyone's hard work, or very helpful contributions.

Tommy -- if you read this, please link to (and/or download and copy) this as the "go viral" definitive version. I think Kerry will approve, and I'll also contact her directly. It's a better version than anything else out there right now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slQD0rUqbGo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=slQD0rUqbGo