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crosby
8th November 2012, 13:22
last night, my daughter and i experienced something very unusual at almost the same time. while i was in bed, watching and falling asleep to a great jazz documentary, the right side of my back began to feel like it was expanding and was going to explode and then i felt somebody or something pushing on my lower spine. i was fully awake and totally cognizant but trying to fall asleep because i had so much to do today. it was after midnight when this happened. i didn't feel afraid, and i had no restrictions of body use. when i felt the pushing on my spine i rolled over to see what it was and there was nothing there. now, here's the strange part:

my daughter had the same thing happening to her but she couldn't move. she told me that it felt like her back was going to explode and then she felt someone or something lay down on top of her. she felt restricted and couldn't move or scream or open her eyes at first. finally, she did get her eyes open and did not see anyone or feel the presence any longer. this happened to her at approximately the same time that it happened to me.

we have experienced a few ghostly experiences a long time ago, but honestly this was not like what we have known in the past. does anyone have any idea what this could have been? we both are feeling a wee bit strange this morning, like we had a party and to much good stuff...... a little hazy and a little confused. any help that you all may have would be so very helpful.
thank you and warmest regards, corson

RMorgan
8th November 2012, 13:49
Hey Corson,

This could very well be many things.

Such back pressure is a characteristic of the first stages of out of the body experiences, which is a nice thing. It´s normal to feel some "presence" during such experiences.

However, since you both experienced it at the same time, this events could be a sign that what some people call incubus/sucubus was feeding from your energy, specially if we consider that both woke up feeling weak.

Does your house has any records of paranormal activity? Did anything unusual happened to you, your daughter or both recently?

Raf.

Vrilya
8th November 2012, 14:11
Good morning Corson, Was this presence your daughter and you experience feel positive or negative? Did you both feel threatened?
Did you lose someone recently, ie.. extended family member or a friend?

Blessings, and Love Always
V

DNA
8th November 2012, 14:11
I don't know corson. I'm unfamiliar with this maneuver. I would error on the side of caution and think about a smudge cleansing of some kind.

crosby
8th November 2012, 14:18
Hey Corson,

This could very well be many things.

Such back pressure is a characteristic of the first stages of out of the body experiences, which is a nice thing. It´s normal to feel some "presence" during such experiences.

However, since you both experienced it at the same time, this events could be a sign that what some people call incubus/sucubus was feeding from your energy, specially if we consider that both woke up feeling weak.

Does your house has any records of paranormal activity? Did anything unusual happened to you, your daughter or both recently?

Raf.
RMorgan,
thanks so much for your response. we lost our beloved chihuahua bella on october 5. my daughters birthday. we haven't lived in a home with paranormal activity for many years. and we haven't been bothered by anything up until this incident. it was really very strange indeed. i will have to do my homework here at avalon to find out exactly what these incubi/succubi have intended for us, if this is what this was, and put the brakes on. something tells me that they are not good.
thank you again.
warmest regards, corson

Robert J. Niewiadomski
8th November 2012, 14:20
How much time had passed since Bella is gone? Could this be she is still araund in your consciousnes space near the border with reality?

crosby
8th November 2012, 14:21
Good morning Corson, Was this presence your daughter and you experience feel positive or negative? Did you both feel threatened?
Did you lose someone recently, ie.. extended family member or a friend?

Blessings, and Love Always
V

hi Vrilya, yes we did lose someone very close to us recently, our pet chihuahua, bella. i did not feel threatened, and the energy did not seem to be negative. but my daughter was startled and in the half awake half asleep mode and could not respond which made her fear level increase. although she doesn't say that she felt threatened.
warmest regards, corson

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I don't know corson. I'm unfamiliar with this maneuver. I would error on the side of caution and think about a smudge cleansing of some kind.

thank you DNA, good advice. i just don't know what we are dealing with. we both are just kind of like "wow, did that really happen?"
warmest, corson

Robert, our bella passed on october 5. she was with us for 12 years. we were all very devastated by her death. we just were not expecting it.

RMorgan
8th November 2012, 14:30
Corson,

It could be an isolated incident, so my advise is not to keep your focus on it, otherwise you might actually contribute for it to happen again.

Give it some time. Try to forget it for now.

If these are indeed entities, one thing I´ve learned is that they do love attention, specially when you fear them. I´ve really learned it the hard way.

For now, just relax and report if anything unusual happens in the next days.

By the way, I´m truly sorry for your loss. Bella looks like a lovely old lady indeed!

Cheers,

Raf.

donk
8th November 2012, 15:01
If these are indeed entities, one thing I´ve learned is that they do love attention, specially when you fear them. I´ve really learned it the hard way.

I agree with this, and respect raf's insight...I am with you corson, I have crap like that happen that i want to know about so bad--but is not easy to put a finger on. i personally have a hard time forgetting, though I am good at not feeding fear or focusing my intent on it, so just wanted to say--forgetting sounds like great advice but I can sympathize if you don't find it easy to do.

I just pay attention and try to learn as much as can. Talking openly about it with ANYONE exposed to anything at your house would be my suggestion, which you seem to be on the ball with already having open diaglogue with your daughter.

I started a theory I would love insight on if anyone can relate: I find that paranormal activity seems to be inversely proportional to problems/issues in my "mundane" life, anyone else find that to be the case? When I am most at peace, more blatant crazy stuff happens, more than can be dismissed as "ahh you're just not paying as much attention as when you are calm and peacful". This reinforces the idea that we feed it (don't have anything else on our mind, so mind wanders to paranormal?)

Just some thoughts...hope they make sense, and that the weirdness doesn't take a turn for the (more) negative...

sleepy
8th November 2012, 15:04
xxxxx xxxxx

Sidney
8th November 2012, 16:40
Hi Corson, my first thought was maybe your beloved Bella was giving you some love in a weird way?? Other than that i have no clue, but I have to share that over the past week 3 times, I have felt the covers "move", down near my calf/ankle area. I have tried to debunk it, and re-enact it somehow, but have been unable to.,,at which for me just boils down to,,,the fact there other dimensions interacting with our 3D life, and many unexplainable things will remain just that,,,,,unexplainable.

I am so very sorry for your loss. My prayers to you, and your family and Bella.

M6*
8th November 2012, 19:35
Dear Corson,
Losing a Beloved Pet can be traumatic for all concerned. Perhaps you could contact a Medium who
could give you a bit more insight into why you were so Blessed. It might bring a bit of Closure.
So sorry for you loss. M6*

crosby
8th November 2012, 22:26
If these are indeed entities, one thing I´ve learned is that they do love attention, specially when you fear them. I´ve really learned it the hard way.

I agree with this, and respect raf's insight...I am with you corson, I have crap like that happen that i want to know about so bad--but is not easy to put a finger on. i personally have a hard time forgetting, though I am good at not feeding fear or focusing my intent on it, so just wanted to say--forgetting sounds like great advice but I can sympathize if you don't find it easy to do.

I just pay attention and try to learn as much as can. Talking openly about it with ANYONE exposed to anything at your house would be my suggestion, which you seem to be on the ball with already having open diaglogue with your daughter.

I started a theory I would love insight on if anyone can relate: I find that paranormal activity seems to be inversely proportional to problems/issues in my "mundane" life, anyone else find that to be the case? When I am most at peace, more blatant crazy stuff happens, more than can be dismissed as "ahh you're just not paying as much attention as when you are calm and peacful". This reinforces the idea that we feed it (don't have anything else on our mind, so mind wanders to paranormal?)

Just some thoughts...hope they make sense, and that the weirdness doesn't take a turn for the (more) negative...


donk, you might just be right about that. things have been very quiet for us as well and then all of the sudden, wham! my boyfriend thinks it is something evil sent from the next door neighbors who are big time trouble. he could be right. about three months ago i thought i saw what looked like a dark whispy smoke cloud come through the living room wall, but i never trust my eyes anymore, they play too many tricks on me. who knows, all i do know is that we will be vigilant with keeping a record of this to see if anything else happens. thanks for your words of wisdom.
warmest, corson

crosby
8th November 2012, 22:30
Hi Corson, my first thought was maybe your beloved Bella was giving you some love in a weird way?? Other than that i have no clue, but I have to share that over the past week 3 times, I have felt the covers "move", down near my calf/ankle area. I have tried to debunk it, and re-enact it somehow, but have been unable to.,,at which for me just boils down to,,,the fact there other dimensions interacting with our 3D life, and many unexplainable things will remain just that,,,,,unexplainable.

I am so very sorry for your loss. My prayers to you, and your family and Bella.

wow, starchild111, it sounds like something weird happening in your neck of the woods too. i am unsure what to think of what it is, it could very well be bella playing a naughty puppy trick from the other side - she got some muscle there, i can tell you that....lol....hopefully it doesn't happen again. we are looking up as much information as we can about what it might possibly be. hopefully it will go away without further incident.
warmest, corson

Star Tsar
8th November 2012, 22:40
Perhaps if you sleep in the same bed just for added safety...
Corson I reckon lil Bella's still guarding her patch mate so don't fret pet!
;)

Vrilya
9th November 2012, 01:00
Such back pressure is a characteristic of the first stages of out of the body experiences, which is a nice thing. It´s normal to feel some "presence" during such experiences.
Raf.

Hey Corson it sounds like you and your daughter have a great relationship, and may have very well taken a little trip together.
Don't worry as this is a good thing. Sometimes your Spirit will enter the body so quickly that your body will feel uncomfortable.

As for your house, a good Blessing, Smugging, and salt for the outside around the windows and door mantles should keep critters (my word for the bad stuff around us) away.

Blessings and Love Always.
V