Freemasons links to establishment cover up in North Wales case ....

[Cidersomerset]

This is important to highlight thats why I took it off the main thread !!

Like the establishment cover ups in Irland and Scotland Freemasons have
questions to answer !!

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With more allegations comming up about Establishment abuse of power and cover ups
all over the world ( Nothing New ).........Channel 4 did a good piece on their 7pm
main news last night.....I posted most of it on the bigger thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----&p=580988&viewfull=1#post580988.


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Published on 8 Nov 2012 by Channel4News


Jon Snow chairs a panel including Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg and author Jake Arnot who discuss how to bring child abuse scandals to light after revelations in north Wales. channel4news.





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Published on 8 Nov 2012 by Channel4News


The Waterhouse Tribunal concluded there was a child abuse ring in north Wales, but names were never named. Channel 4 is the first to see the list - 54 names in all, 38 accused of sexual abuse - and 11 women are among them, seven of those accused of abuse.



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Published on 8 Nov 2012 by Channel4News


Reporter Pariac O'Brien is in Wales where a former councillor has kept documents from the Jillings' inquiry into child abuse which was never made public. Was justice served?

She says the polaroids Steve Meesham stole from his attackers flat were ordered to
be destroyed !! and more !




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"Sick crimes will go uninvestigated": Fears of child sex abuse "cover-up" as Theresa May rejects calls for super inquiry
6 Nov 2012 23:00

She rejected pleas to merge the eight different inquiries launched in the wake of the Savile scandal into a single one capable of examining all links

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/theresa-may-sparks-claims-of-child-sex-1421346




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THIS TWO-PART FILM tells the story of an extraordinary child abuse case in North Wales. A retired police detective claims that he was introduced to a child sex abuse ring by a fellow freemason. The retired police officer is jailed but he claims that he doesn't know the identity of the mason who invited him into the ring. This second mason has never been caught. The police didn't investigate until Rebecca, Britain's first investigative website, began asking some awkward questions. Click on part two for the rest of the programme — and visit Rebecca [rebeccatelevision] for more details about this pioneering multi-media website.




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THIS TWO-PART FILM tells the story of an extraordinary child abuse case in North Wales. A retired police detective claims that he was introduced to a child sex abuse ring by a fellow freemason. The retired police officer is jailed but he claims that he doesn't know the identity of the mason who invited him into the ring. This second mason has never been caught. The police didn't investigate until Rebecca, Britain's first investigative website, began asking some awkward questions. Click on part two for the rest of the programme — and visit Rebecca [rebeccatelevision] for more details about this pioneering multi-media website.

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THE NORTH Wales Child Abuse Tribunal cleared freemasonry of any involvement in covering up child abuse.


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A MASON-FREE ZONE?



But why did some fascinating information about the brotherhood never come to light?
Why did the Tribunal’s own leading counsel not declare that he was a mason?
And why was there no mention of a police lodge during the public hearings?


THE WATERHOUSE Tribunal set the tone for its approach to freemasonry right from day one.

In the very first session the barrister for one of the groups of former residents of care homes made an application about masonry.

The barrister, Nick Booth, asked that “the Tribunal should keep a register of the masonic membership amongst its staff, the members, its representatives and witnesses who appear before it”.

He explained: “The duty of loyalty to a brother mason and his duty of impartiality if he is involved in the administration of justice is not a new one and it’s one that’s very much in the public eye, particularly at the moment.”

“The Tribunal will be aware of the House of Commons Home Affairs Select Committee which is investigating the issue,” he added.

“Sir, I stress, if I have not stressed it before, that I am not making any suggestion of disreputable conduct, merely to put the matter beyond the reach of any possible public comment which might undermine the public confidence in the Inquiry.”

Read More: THE NORTH Wales Child Abuse Tribunal cleared freemasonry of any involvement in covering up child abuse.

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Keith Gregory says Masons should be investigated as the names he has all belong
to the masons or other establishment groups,


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[Cidersomerset]

Close Thatcher aide visited North Wales children's home five times, claims former resident as National Crime Agency is called in to investigate allegations

Former resident of North Wales care home accuses aide to Margaret Thatcher of abusing young boys
Theresa May makes a statement to Parliament to confirm a review into Waterhouse Inquiry headed by the National Crime Agency
Two separate independent inquiries will look at child abuse claims against senior Tory politicians in the 1970s and 1980s
Home Secretary warns MPs against using parliamentary privilege to name suspects
Accuser Steve Messham demands more than an 'inquiry into the inquiry'
David Cameron poised to announce overarching public inquiry if allegation of child abuse are linked


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228444/Theresa-May-makes-statement-Parliament-North-wales-abuse-claims-Steve-Messham.html#ixzz2Bk338lFR
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Award-winning journalist who helped expose the North Wales child abuse scandal calls for a proper police investigation
4 Nov 2012 16:02


Powerful establishment figures accused of heinous crimes were unafraid but now live in fear of exposure

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[Billy]

I hope all this brings Hollie Greig's case back into the limelight and justice comes for Hollie after 20yrs.

http://holliegreig.info/

Peace

[Cidersomerset]

I hope all this brings Hollie Greig's case back into the limelight and justice comes for Hollie after 20yrs.

http://holliegreig.info/


Thanks BillyJ I have posted Hollies case in several posts on the big thread !


Re: How Jimmy was able to Fix it !!!



THE herald Scotland............

Thursday 8 November 2012
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Fresh call for abuse inquiry
Kathleen Nutt

FORMER residents of Scotland's orphanages are to relaunch their campaign for an independent public inquiry into child abuse in residential homes in light of the Jimmy Savile scandal.


Chris Daly, secretary of victims' support group In Care Abuse Survivors, is to request a meeting with Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill, who backed a public inquiry in opposition.

Several investigations into child abuse allegations have been launched in the past two weeks after hundreds of complaints against Savile and fresh paedophile claims linked to a north Wales care home

Mr Daly, 47, of Rutherglen, Glasgow, who was physically abused while in care in Nazareth House, a Catholic home, in Aberdeen, during the 1970s, said there are many parallels between the Savile case and the abuse of children in homes in Scotland. These include the fact that victims were not believed.

He said: "I'm delighted at the speed at which the authorities in England have responded to the allegations about Savile.

"I am disappointed our calls for a full inquiry into abuse in children's homes in Scotland seem to have fallen on deaf ears. With the public's attention focused now on how abusers such as Savile managed to get away with their wicked acts for so long, I hope our request will finally be successful."

It is thought Savile, who died last year aged 84, may have abused scores of young girls and some boys over a 40-year period.

The BBC, the Department of Health, police and the Director of Public Prosecutions will all examine allegations made about the late broadcaster.

It has also been announced the National Crime Agency will examine activities at Bryn Estan care home in the 1970s and 1980s. A High Court judge will examine the robustness of the original Waterhouse review into the allegations after a former resident claimed Sir Peter Morrison, a close aid to Mrs Thatcher, visited the home on a number of occasions.

Sir Peter, the MP for Chester from 1974 to 1992, died in 1995.

In Scotland, plans by ministers to establish a National Confidential Forum to allow former residents of all homes to speak out are under way. How-ever, former residents claim the powers of the proposed forum are limited. They want an inquiry that can force former staff to appear and that could pave the way for prosecutions.

Mr Daly first called for an inquiry in 2002 when he addressed MSPs at Holyrood's petitions' committee. The petition led to former first minister Jack McConnell making a public apology in Parliament in 2004 and a report on abuse in care homes in Scotland between 1950 to 1995.

Mr MacAskill, then shadow justice spokesman, supported the setting up of an inquiry in the debate that followed Mr McConnell's apology. "There are precedents elsewhere, such as in Australia, Canada and Ireland, where similar inquiries have been carried out. It is important such inquiries are carried out," Mr MacAskill told Holyrood in December 2004.

A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: "In 2010, the Scottish Human Rights Commission published recommendations to the Scottish Government on access to justice, effective remedies and reparation for survivors of childhood abuse, including a public inquiry." He said the Government was engaging with the commission to consider the recommendations.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...quiry.19340622

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Terrified Scottish Establishment DesperateTo Suppress Exposure Of Their Paedophile Ring

A ring that connects into the 'heart' (wrong word) of the Scottish and British governments
and the Westminster Parliament and involved Dunblane mass child killer, Thomas Hamilton.

Reporter Robert Green has been arrested and will appear in court in Aberdeen on Monday morning
for the crime of exposing these sick and depraved people who get their 'kicks' from sexually
abusing and raping children, including the Down's Syndrome girl, Hollie Greig.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/ne...-suppress.html

[Snookie]

"Powerful establishment figures accused of heinous crimes were unafraid but now live in fear of exposure".

It's about time these bastards get a taste of their own medicine. Let them toss & turn in the middle of the night worrying when TSHTF and their name is splashed all over. Karma's a bitch.

[angelahedgehog]

I've noticed increasingly that we now live in a world where a person is generally considered guilty before proving themselves innocent. This is what the establishment wanted, this is what we now have and isn't it ironic? Doncha think?

These people have spent a lot of time implementing whatever it is that's in their plans - we can discuss it forever and still never run out of things to say - but I don't think that they've considered that they too might become victims of a system of their own devising.

We the conscious people need to keep focusing attention on these matters, that is effectively how we can keep this issue bobbing up at the top. I for one want to see this resolved, I would enjoy nothing more than to see the Holly Greig story blown wide open and the British Public shown how they've been lied to all these years, imagine how they'd react to that story? Name and shame and make it an abomination because it is. I get really wound up thinking about how much is stolen from a child that they spend a lifetime trying to recover - all because some ugly, wrinkled, prune of a hideous monster of a human being gets some sort of rush or kick out of being so vile.

Keep the focus ... :)

[Cidersomerset]

I've noticed increasingly that we now live in a world where a person is generally considered guilty before proving themselves innocent. This is what the establishment wanted, this is what we now have and isn't it ironic? Doncha think?


I was thinking just that watching newsnight, They were appologising for not publishing Jimmy saville, and now going to quick with the North wales case.

They had a panel on and one of them said ,Steve Meesham was known to be an unreliable witness and the BBC should not have published on the basis

of his interview. This really annoyed me as whether the BBC did the article or not, it would not have been put out solely on the interview with Steve Meesham.

Steve is the victim and has come forward. The press have been camped out side his flat according to channel 4 news last night and are scurrying around

looking to catch up on the story. If Mr.Meesham was shown a different photo by the police of a man in the original enquiry, who he identified.

You would have thought the BBC researchers would have shown him a picture of lord Mc Alpine in there research/interview before broadcasting the

story.So for the panalist to say Steve was untrustworthy was stupid and potential dangerous in that it may put other witness's of abuse from

coming forward. Yes Lord MCAlpine must have a public apology for his distress to him and his family.....

This is where I agree it has fallen into hands of the establishment who can site cases like this for more privacy and a crack down on freedom on the web !!

[angelahedgehog]

When you put it like that, it smacks of stage management and distraction. The real issue hasn't gone away, it's in the process of being buried under a lot of noiZ. ;)

[Cidersomerset]

This is Davids take on it from his web sit and he thinks the same its very odd !

Is it only me??


Saturday, 10 November 2012 11:44
By David Icke


Let me get this right. I know it’s difficult to grasp the logic of what follows if you have a brain on active duty, but, hey, this is Planet Earth in 2012.

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A man called Steve Messham tells the BBC current affairs programme, Newsnight, that he was abused as a child while a resident in a North Wales children's home in the 1970s/1980s by former public figure....



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Except that Newsnight did not broadcast the actual name in its programme.
Speculation begins and Lord Alistair McAlpine's name is widely circulated across the Internet from multiple sources as being the person that Messham was talking about although Messham does not confirm this.

On the day that McAlpine's lawyers released a statement denying that he is a paedophile or in any way involved in the North Wales children’s homes scandal, Messham issues an apology to Lord McAlpine saying that it was a case of 'mistaken identity' and that he should never have named him.

Er, Steve, mate, publicly you DIDN'T.

WTF?

This allows the BBC to issue a grovelling statement apologising to McAlpine whom the Newsnight programme never named!!

Steve Messham said that the reason he has recanted on his not publicly mentioning the name of Lord McAlpine is that he was shown a picture of McAlpine by police 'in the last hour' and he realised it was not the man who abused him over and over and over decades ago.

Hold on a minute, while I breathe very deeply and sip some very sweet tea. Talk among yourselves.

Okay, I think I can continue, but I will have to type a little slower.

Messham says that the problem of 'mistaken identity' arose because police showed him a picture in the 1990s of the person that he said abused him and they told him that it was Lord McAlpine. Now he had seen a picture of Lord McAlpine 'in the last hour' and he realised that it is not the man in the picture that police showed to him in the 1990s.

This is where you have to take some deep breaths and sip some sweet tea. I do advise it, anyway.

You are being asked to believe that in the 15-20 years between Steve Messham allegedly being shown the picture of 'Lord McAlpine' by police and accusing him of sexually abusing him in an unbroadcast part of the interview with Newsnight that Messham has never once Googled 'Lord Alistair McAlpine' and seen the pictures of him widely available ever since he said he was abused??

That he never once sought out a picture of him of any kind in the decades since his time in the children's home until the police showed him one ‘in the last hour’?

That he didn’t know what McAlpine looked like even when he has been in the news only recently with comments about jailed Polly Peck businessman, Asil Nadir.

Steve … this is what comes up if you Google the words 'Lord Alistair McAlpine' - pictures widely available way before 'in the last hour' ...

Steve, mate, I am so sorry for what you went through, and what you are going through now, but for me bollocks is the only word in town.

Yet now the BBC is issuing 'unreserved apologies' to someone they didn't even name and the mainstream media is running around like headless chickens - 'don't panic, don't panic, it's all explained now, go back to sleep' - on the basis of such transparent BULL**** with regard to Steve Messham.
You know the most telling and relevant words written on this website in the last week? These ...

'If the real and full truth comes out about what really goes on away from the public eye it will bring down the British political establishment across all parties and make the monarchy history.'

That, in my view, is what Steve Messham’s sudden about-turn after decades is really about and the mainstream media may run, and much of the 'alternative' media may run, but I bloody won't.

Some of us are not chickens and our heads are still intact. Some of us will not go back to sleep because we were never asleep in the first place.

Is it only me that finds all this absolutely inexplicable?
I doubt it.
So who’s got the guts to say so?

http://80.87.129.146/headlines/75235-is-it-only-me

[Cidersomerset]

From the BBC webpage there are vids on the link..............This should not

distract from the main scandel.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20282942



10 November 2012 Last updated at 19:26

BBC Newsnight: MPs urge speedy BBC responseJohn Whittingdale: "There's been a failure of management at every level"


The BBC has been urged by MPs to act quickly to restore confidence after a Newsnight report led to an ex-senior Tory being wrongly implicated in child sex abuse at Welsh children's homes.

Culture Secretary Maria Miller spoke of the need to restore "credibility" after the director general said the report should not have been broadcast.

George Entwistle has apologised unreservedly to Lord McAlpine.

He said he was only aware of the story after it was broadcast.

Shadow culture secretary Harriet Harman said there were "systemic problems" over the report.

And the Commons media committee chairman John Whittingdale said the BBC needed "to act very swiftly in order to try to restore some public confidence".

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This is the article broadcast, This is still a VERY imortant piece !!

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[Cidersomerset]

This is the full Channel 4 report.........

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Published on 6 Nov 2012 by PublicEnquiry


Tuesday 06 November 2012 - Channel 4 News
UK Photographs of Wales abuse 'were handed to police'
Exclusive: Steve Messham tells Channel 4 News he passed photographs of children being abused, including himself, to the police but they failed to act.
http://www.channel4.com/news/photographs-of-abuse-was-handed-to-police
The former Bryn Estyn care home resident also said the men who abused him as a teenager frequently threatened him, saying: "If you tell anyone, I'll have you killed."
He told Channel 4 News that he broke into the flat of one of his abusers to steal photographs of the abuse he endured, but that nothing was done after he handed them into the police.
Mr Messham was 16 when he allegedly entered the flat in Wrexham in 1979. "I broke in knowing he was away, and I found all these photographs and I handed them to the police - and out of that two people got prosecuted, and one got a caution and that was it.
"And what was on those pictures was unbelievable, it doesn't make sense. The police do admit there were pictures, but not to the extent I say .... crazy."
The photos captured lots of men raping boys, including the prominent Conservative figure he accuses of abusing him, Mr Messham alleges. He says he could see men's faces clearly, but the police said they could not identify the men from the pictures.
Home Secretary Theresa May on Thursday launched two separate inquiries into abuse in north Wales care homes. The director general of the National Crime Agency will investigate claims about sex offences against youngsters in the 1970s and 1980s, and review how previous inquiries were carried out by the police.
Mrs Justice Julia Wendy Macur will lead a separate review into the "scope and conduct" of the original Waterhouse inquiry into allegations of child abuse at north Wales care homes.
Mr Messham, who claims he was abused more than a dozen times by a Conservative figure and a wider circle of abusers including businessmen and police, told Channel 4 News: "They took photographs, very much so - loads of photographs.
"As I said, I broke into that flat and handed them to the police... (they took them) in the hotel room, in the flat itself they were taking photographs. They got their kicks out of it, whatever they were doing they got kicks off it. It's just a power thing."

'They remind you who they are'
He also says he was threatened by the abusers: "We always got threats. When they abuse you, they always remind you who they are. They always did that -- whether it was the prominent Tory member, or the staff in the homes... 'You tell anybody, you know what you're going to get. You tell anybody, I'll have you killed'. You're scared anyway, you're a kid, but they just scare you that little bit more.
"It's not during the act, it's after they'd finished with you...'Remember who I am'...There wasn't one who didn't threaten me afterwards."
In 1996 the Waterhouse Inquiry sat for 203 days and heard evidence from 650 people, with more than 80 people named as abusers - mainly care workers and teachers. There were 140 compensation claims settled on behalf of the victims and 72 recommendations were made.
However Mr Messham said that the inquiry failed to disclose a prominent child abuser at the time, because Sir Ronald Waterhouse ruled that making names public would be defamatory.

'Names will come out'
Speaking before his meeting with the Welsh secretary on Tuesday, Mr Messham said: "I could kill them. They wrecked my life. My life's not normal, never has been .... nightmares, sweats. I ended up in being in hospital for over three and a half years with it -- it's not good is it?
"I tried to give up several times, took several overdoses, slashed my wrists several times. What has kept me going is my daughter, without her I don't think I'd be here."
Mr Messham, who until now has not named his abusers, said he is hopeful that the inquiry will be successful, but added: "If I feel nothing's being done then names will come out".

[Cidersomerset]

The Widow of another victim confirms Steve Meesham story, that they were shown a photo and given the name Mc Alpine by North Wales Police !!

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Published on 10 Nov 2012 by Channel4News


The widow of another child abuse victim says her husband was also shown a photo and given the name
McAlpine in a sign of further mistakes in the case, and the BBC is under fire over the scandal.

[Cidersomerset]

This interview and report will give you more background to what is going on !


UK Column Live - 8th November 2012

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Published on 9 Nov 2012 by ukcolumn


Brian Gerrish and Patrick Henningsen present a UK Column Live special covering paedophila in the establishment,
the BBC cover-up, and tw interviews with Robert Green presenting definitive evidence of the abuse of
Downs Syndrome girl, Hollie Greig.

[Cidersomerset]

David put this up earlier....


http://apache.icke.positive-dedicated.net/headlines/75249-scallywag-magazine-editor-on-how-the-torys-covered-up-paedophile-ring-that-jimmy-savile-procured-for




Monday, 29 October 2012SCALLYWAG MAGAZINE HOW THE TORY'S COVERED UP THE PAEDOPHILE RING JIMMY SAVILE PROCURED FOR

The letter written below is penned by Simon Regan Editor of Scallyway Magazine who's half Brother Angus James Wilson, co founder of Scallywag, died in Cyprus in 1994 whilst the magazine was investigating the elite paedophile ring operating in North Wales children's homes and beyond.

In his letter Simon documents Scallywag's investigation into the North Wales Child Abuse scandal and the tragic cover-up by the Courts and the Establishment.

Whilst the Police stole the affidavits the abused children had made, naming their high profile abusers, the notes of the interviews were kept by investigator Andrea Davison only to be seized by the Derby and North Wales Police in January 2010. http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/andrea-davison-jimmy-savile-serco-and.html

Now that this paedophile ring, which Jimmy Savile procured for, is being exposed its time that the Police returned the Affidavits and the notes of these interviews. The names given by these abused children, some of whom died tragically, should be investigated anew but who can be trusted to do the investigation?

The daily mail recently wrote this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224167/Former-Minister-says-Thatcher-aide-paedophile-preyed-boys-home--Hague-known.html which opened up the whole North Wales Child abuse scandal up again. William Hauge and other Members of the last Tory Government covered up the fact the Peter Morrison MP Thatchers close friend and aid was named by children in the North Wales childrens homes as being a child abuser linked to an elite padophile ring.


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Simon Regan with party friends in happier times





Abuse

The Waterhouse Report

By Simon Regan

20 February 2000

The fact that the Waterhouse report went as far as it did is highly commendable, and obviously long overdue. But the trouble with any investigation which tries to break through a 'cult of silence' is the lingering doubts that it will ever get down to the whole full truth of the matter. Waterhouse is probably merely the tip of the iceberg.

The report suggests there is 'no evidence' that Freemasonry had anything to do with the scandal. Yet there were two inadequate and inconclusive police inquiries, including one into a senior officer, by a force in North Wales riddled with freemasons.

There was a consistent lack of initiative on the part of the local Clwyd CC in the face of overwhelming evidence of consistent child abuse at Bryn Estyn, ostensibly because the council insurers advised against any action. This in itself insults democracy in a way that borders on the criminal. By a policy of non-action, both the police and the council became embroiled in a blatant cover-up.

Anyone who has even vaguely become acquainted with paedophilia knows very well that they will go to the ends of the earth to keep their activities absolutely secret. They are professional experts in covering their tracks.

In the early nineties, in the now defunct Scallywag magazine, which I founded, we interviewed in some depth twelve former inmates at Bryn Estyn who had all been involved in the Wrexham paedophile ring, which the tribunal acknowledges existed. Most of these interviews were extremely harrowing and disturbing, but were gently and sensitively conducted over pub lunches where the victim could relax. We subsequently persuaded ten of them to make sworn affidavits which we proposed to use as back up to half a dozen paedophile stories we later published.

Two of these young men, who had been 14-years-old at the time, swore they had been not only introduced to the paedophile ring operating in the Crest Hotel in Wrexham but had later been escorted on three or four occasions to an address in Pimlico where they were further abused.

We took them separately to Pimlico and asked them to point out the building where this had taken place. They were both positive in their identification. It turned out to be the private flat of a well known, and since highly discredited lobbyist who later went into obscurity in some disgrace because of his involvement with Mohammed al-Fayed and the 'cash for questions' scandal. At the time we ran a story entitled 'Boys for Questions' and named several prominent members of the then Thatcher government. These allegations went to the very top of the Tory party, yet there was a curious and almost ominous lack of writs.

The lobbyist was a notorious 'queen' who specialised in gay parties with a 'political mix' in the Pimlico area - most convenient to the Commons - and which included selected flats in Dolphin Square. The two young men were able to give us very graphic descriptions of just what went on, including acts of buggery, and alleged that they were only two of many from children's homes other than North Wales.

There was, to my certain knowledge, at least one resignation from the Conservative office in Smith Square once we had published our evidence and named names.

Subsequently, over a rent dispute which is still a matter of litigation, Dr. Julian Lewis, now Conservative MP for New Forest (East) but then deputy head of research at Conservative Central Office in Smith Square, managed to purchase the contents of our offices, which included all our files. It had been alleged that we owed rent, which we disputed, but under a court order the landlords were able to change the locks and seize our assets which included all our files, including those we had made on paedophiles. It was apparently quite legal, but it was most certainly a dirty trick.

All of a sudden very private information, some of it even privileged between ourselves and our lawyer during the John Major libel action, was being published in selected, pro-Conservative sections of the media.

Subsequently, during a court case initiated by Lewis, I was able in my defence to seek discovery of documents and asked to see the seized files. The paedophile papers were missing. This is a very great shame, because Sir Ronald Waterhouse certainly should have been aware of them.

I believe that the secrecy the Establishment wraps around itself easily equals that of the paedophiles. They really do look after each other and quite professionally cover their tracks.

The real trouble about exposing paedophiles is that former victims of child abuse make lousy witnesses. By the very nature of the abuse, when they are rudely shoved out into the wide world (one of the witnesses, Stephen Messham, for example, was released on his sixteenth birthday on Christmas day after two years of abuse, and had to sleep rough on the streets for four and a half months), they are often deeply psychologically disturbed.

Some of the extreme cases commit suicide, many more were sexually disorientated in the worst possible way. Some became gay prostitutes, others drug addicts, and in nearly every case, at some stage, they needed lengthy counselling. Marriages quickly disintegrated in psychological turmoil and a lot of former victims had real difficulties raising their own children. There are very few victims of child abuse who come out of it without deep scars.

It was all very well for us to take statements from former victims in the cosy atmosphere of a pub lunch, but put them up against an agile and eminent QC whose sole task is to discredit them, and they quickly crumble, even break down in tears. Many former victims now have criminal records of some kind, owing almost exclusively to the abuse itself, and the barrister will brutally exploit this as evidence that the witness is unreliable and tainted. Faced with the choice of a clearly neurotic young man who quickly falls down in the witness box, and a smooth, experienced, erudite and often highly respected culprit, juries tend to give the accused the benefit of the doubt.

I watched it in the now famous Court 13 at the High Court during the libel action between former Supt. Gordon Anglesey and Private Eye (and others) when, despite the fact that under cross examination, Anglesey had to admit that his evidence did not correspond with his own notebooks, the 'other side' subsequently tore the five main prosecution witnesses to pieces in a monumental act of judicial harassment. Like the whole story of child abuse in North Wales and elsewhere, it broke my heart.

Simon Regan (deceased) was editor of Scallywag Magazine

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/scallywag-magazine-how-torys-cover-up.html

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The Fuss about the BBC Newsnight has been blown tottally out of proportion,
If you watch the report in # 10 you will notice the Mc Alpine insinuation is
a small part of the piece....This has been used by the establishment to kick
the messenger...Lord Mc Alpine has been rightly appologised to if he is innocent.
But lets not forget the scandel is still massive and is still going on !!


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'Focus on abuse' amid BBC crisis, urges MP Tim Loughton said he hope
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The current leadership crisis at the BBC should not overshadow child abuse allegations which sparked it, a former children's minister has said.

Director general George Entwistle quit over Newsnight's reporting of north Wales child abuse and a shelved report on abuse by ex-BBC DJ Jimmy Savile.

But MP Tim Loughton said the media focus on the resignation was "deeply frustrating".

"We really mustn't forget that this is about child abuse," he said.

"This is about vulnerable children and young people, going back many decades, who have been subject to pretty horrific abuse," Mr Loughton said, who was a children's minister until September.

"In the vast majority of cases, it is by ordinary people, people in positions of trust who are there to look after them and singularly failed.

"I fear the publicity around the witch-hunt of celebrities and high-level figures is detracting from the real purpose - which is to root out child abuse that has gone on in the past, bring the perpetrators to book, give the victims some closure and make sure that it's not happening in 2012."

Abuse centring on children's homes in north Wales - and specifically the Bryn Estyn home near Wrexham - began to emerge in the 1990s, but were highlighted again this month when victim Steve Messham spoke to Newsnight, claiming that the Waterhouse inquiry, released in 2000, had uncovered only a fraction of the abuse.

On 2 November, Newsnight broadcast a report that Mr Messham claimed a leading 1980s Tory politician had abused him. But he then withdrew his accusation a week later, saying he had been mistaken.

Lord McAlpine, although not named on Newsnight, was identified on the internet as the subject of the allegations. He said the claims were "wholly false and seriously defamatory".

The BBC unreservedly apologised for broadcasting the report.

Mr Loughton said that due to the "shoddy journalism" by Newsnight, there were "now some questions being put on the testimony of various witnesses, and one in particular.

"No-one is denying the child abuse has happened. We know it has happened in north Wales children homes because people have gone to jail for it, we know it has happened in the Church, we are now investigating what's happening in BBC.

"But what I hope this doesn't lead to is victims who have been suffering in silence for many years, who were deterred from coming forward, were now thinking 'I daren't raise my head above the parapet'."

Lib Dem AM Aled Roberts, chair of a Wrexham council panel which implemented the recommendations of the Waterhouse report into the abuse a decade ago, said it was vital that those working in child protection today remain vigilant.

Mr Roberts says the reasoning behind the decision not to prosecute people identified by that inquiry was "worrying", and he questioned whether that decision was "properly taken".

Home Secretary Theresa May announced two inquiries last week into the north Wales abuse claims - one reviewing the Waterhouse inquiry, and one looking at the police handling of the historic claims as well as fresh allegations.

On Sunday, she said those inquiries would continue.

Newsnight was also criticised for shelving an earlier report into allegations that the late BBC presenter and DJ Jimmy Savile had abused young people over many decades.

There are numerous investigations into the Savile abuse, with the police, the NHS, the BBC and the director of public prosecutions all investigating various aspects.

Mrs May said she was not yet persuaded that having a single overriding inquiry into child abuse was the right thing.

"I've said that if at the end of establishing the facts there is a case, then, of course, we will look at it. Let's let the police and others get on with the job of establishing the facts."

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The Chairman of the BBC Trust, Lord Patten insists he won't be quitting but admitted it was his task to ensure the corporation "got a grip".





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Leaked reports on Leveson inquiry


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Leaked reports suggest Lord Justice Leveson will recommend tighter state regulation of the media.

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Paedophile scandal: Convicted North Wales care home boss is working in family-friendly hotel
10 Nov 2012 22:25

John Allen was accused of the sexual abuse of dozens of vulnerable children when he was head of a multi-million-pound care home company

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A DANGEROUS paedophile at the centre of the North Wales children’s home scandal is working as a night porter at a Premier Inn hotel.

Convicted pervert John Allen was accused of the sexual abuse of dozens of vulnerable children when he was head of a multi-million-pound care home company.

A Sunday Mirror investigation has discovered Allen, now 71, is working at the family-friendly hotel after moving to a different part of the country.

Allen, who was jailed for six years for child sex abuse in 1995, went into hiding after he was cleared of another 36 offences in 2003 when a judge ruled he would not receive a fair trial under European human-rights legislation.

The Waterhouse Inquiry into the children’s homes abuse over two decades exposed the full extent of Allen’s crimes, with 28 victims ­accusing him of sex attacks.

Crucially, wealthy Allen was in a position of power and it was ­reported he threatened to kill his victims if they spoke out.

It was also claimed he ran a male ­prostitution empire that had links with senior ­establishment figures.


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This week, as the scandal ­reignited amid false allegations against top Tory Lord McAlpine by former care home resident Steve Messham on Panorama, we tracked down Allen to a rented £120,000, one-bedroom flat in the East of ­England.

His colleagues and neighbours have no idea about his past and how he played a pivotal part in the scandal which led to 700 complaints of abuse by 350 young victims.

A neighbour said: “I only know him as John. He’s lived here for about a year. I sometimes hear his door opening and closing at odd hours.

“He is friendly enough to say ‘hello’ to, but I don’t really know anything about him.”

Allen worked in the hotel ­industry before moving into the residential care business in North Wales in the mid-1960s. In 1969, he opened a children’s home at Bryn Alyn, near Wrexham.

His company expanded and at one stage Allen ran up to 50 homes in North Wales, Cheshire and ­Shropshire providing specialist care for ­troubled ­children.

It is estimated up to 500 children were put in his care during this time.

It became an ­extremely lucrative business ­because, even in the 1980s, councils paid around £15,000-a-year per child.

In the 13 years up to 1990, his ­empire had a turnover of more than £28million and, in the mid-1980s, the annual turnover was about £2.6million – which would be valued today at £6.8million.

Allen’s salary in 1988 was £204,894, equivalent to £470,000 now, and he had a yacht and properties in the Costwolds and France.

Allen retired in 1990 and his ­double life began to ­unravel when police ­carried out a three-year probe into a series of claims from boys.


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In 1995, Allen was jailed for six years after being convicted of six offences of indecent assault between 1972 and 1983. He was ­cleared of four other charges.

More damning and ­wide- spread claims of sex abuse were made against him ­during the ­Waterhouse Inquiry and they were detailed in 2000’s Lost in Care ­report.

The ­report said 28 ex- ­residents had ­alleged they were sexually abused by Allen and they gave ­disturbing accounts oftheir ordeals, including serious sexual assaults.

Allen’s pattern of abuse included him giving vulnerable boys­ ­expensive gifts after assaulting them, to buy their silence and groom them for more abuse.

A report in 1996 suggested Allen had ­connections with senior ­establishment figures and was ­hiring out children as rent boys.

At the Waterhouse Inquiry, Allen denied being a ­paedophile and claimed a prominent politician was a child sex abuser.

Two brothers who had been ­victims of Allen died in ­mysterious circumstances. Adrian Johns had tried to blackmail Allen in 1992. Months later he was killed in an arson attack in Brighton. His ­brother ­Leander ­survived.

Leander and another brother Chris, who believes he escaped abuse because he was too old, gave evidence against Allen. Chris claimed he had under-age sex with a high court judge and was raped by another official.

Allen absconded and was missing for five days during which time Leander, 34, was found dead in his flat. The corone r concluded he died of a drug overdose.

Following the report, police launched another inquiry which ­resulted in 36 new charges. But ­Allen’s lawyers argued he would not face a fair trial so he walked free.

A Premier Inn spokesman said: “We were unaware of Mr Allen’s conviction as he neglected to disclose this on his job application. We have suspended him with ­immediate ­effect pending further enquiries.”

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North Wales care abuse: brothers detail their abuse nightmare
By Darren Devine, WalesOnline
Nov 11 2012

Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/11/11/north-wales-care-abuse-brothers-detail-their-abuse-nightmare-91466-32208029/#ixzz2C2p04FRr



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Two brothers brutalised in a notorious Welsh care home have opened up on the
abuse they endured.Keith and Tony Gregory, from Wrexham, ended up in the
town’s Bryn Estyn home after playing truant from school.

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Keith, 55, now a Wrexham councillor, says his problems began because he suffered
deafness and was an undiagnosed dyslexic who struggled to keep up in his infants
and junior schools.He was first sent to a Liverpool care home, where he says he
experienced the kind of abuse that would later define the three years he spent in
Bryn Estyn between 1972 and 1975.On the first day he arrived at Bryn Estyn, Keith
says he was left bloodied and battered by a master with cane marks from his neck
down to his legs after leaning against a wall instead of standing to attention.Tony,
50, who was at Bryn Estyn for around 18 months between 1977 and 1978, said he
became aggressive and would threaten violence to successfully ward off the
advances of paedophile staff members and other boys.

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He said: “I wasn’t sexually abused because I managed to fight them off. It was that
scary being in there that I had to go around with a persona saying, ‘Don’t mess
with me or I’ll take your head off’, just to survive.”

Among former Bryn Estyn staff convicted of offences was former house master
Peter Howarth, locked up for 10 years in 1994 for violating boys as young as 12. He
died behind bars.

Steven Norris, another senior member of staff at Bryn Estyn, pleaded guilty to
three offences of buggery, one of attempted buggery and three of indecent assault.
Tony said staff and boys at Bryn Estyn were involved in grooming youngsters to
recruit fresh victims to the ranks of those abused by Howarth and Norris.
“I was up against the paedophiles that were there and quite a lot of them would try
to get me into a situation or talking and interested in going in that direction.


Read more: North Wales child abuse scandal: 'Don't forget the real victims'
“He (Howarth) would just hang around when you were doing things and try to get
you to talk about things and walk you down that path of what sort of sexuality you
preferred and what you liked to do.”
Because he refused to acquiesce, the then 15-year-old Tony was denied access to
the education Howarth reserved for those boys who complied with his sordid
demands.At first, his requests to go to classes were approved by the school’s head,
who was not involved in abuse, before Howarth would deny them.Tony, who admits
being involved in burglaries and thefts before he was sent to Bryn Estyn, added: “I
cottoned on that I was seen as a bit of a threat to the ring. I tried to get education
in school and it was denied because all the boys that were being abused were all in
one little clique in the school and all friends.“Because I was seen as a loose cannon,
I was kept well away from them. I was made to work in the gardens from when I
was in there until the day I left.“He (Howarth) was one of the teachers in the
school. They had school huts away from the main hall building where kids went to
be educated.”

Read more: North Wales child abuse scandal: the long road to justice
Tony, who maintains he was punched, kicked and beaten up by staff in Bryn Estyn,
said though some of the boys didn’t resist their abusers, he still regards them as
victims because submitting to the paedophiles was the only way to survive.He said
those who escaped were brought back and in the 1970s and 1980s police were
often contemptuously dismissive of boys in care who complained about abuse.
Tony, who was paid £6,000 in compensation for the physical abuse, added: “You’ve
got to bear in mind that we were all in a system that was dark and an environment
where people couldn’t run away because if they were caught, they were brought
back and got a good hammering.“If they involved the police, the police would come
in and say ‘There’s nothing to answer to, you’re talking crap’.
“I would say all the lads who were gay had probably gone in there straight. They
were just trying to survive like I was. We were all victims to some degree.”
As well as those sent to Bryn Estyn for truanting or crime, highly vulnerable
orphans also ended up there, said Tony.“There were people who were sent there
who had lost their parents and they had no choice.

Read more: BBC staff may face disciplinary action over Newsnight child abuse report
“A lot of them were in a really, really sad state and it was easy prey for them (the
paedophiles). If you were vulnerable, young and little, there wasn’t much you could
do about it.”

Tony, who has suffered with depression all his adult life and has struggled to hold
down a job, says his experiences left him with a deep mistrust of authority figures
like police and social workers and even gay people.
Keith has backed fellow former Bryn Estyn resident Steve Messham’s claims that
children were taken out of Bryn Estyn to be abused in Wrexham’s Crest Hotel.
Keith says up to 13 victims have committed suicide since the 1970s, some of whom
might now be alive had their complaints and allegations been listened to.
The Gregory brothers suggest the abuse went much wider than the Waterhouse
Inquiry, which published its report Lost in Care in 2000, found.In line with its remit,
this £13m inquiry focused on abuse in care homes in the former North Wales
counties of Clwyd and Gwynedd.

The report dealt with more than 650 cases of child abuse in 40 care homes over a
20-year period.Keith has said two MPs were involved in the abuse, plus judges and
serving police officers.
Channel 4 News has reported an eye witness account that former Chester MP Sir
Peter Morrison, who died in 1995, visited the home five times.Sir Peter was former
Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s parliamentary private secretary and was at the
heart of the Tory establishment in the 1980s.Keith said: “We used to go to bed and
they would drag people out of bed in open dormitories. There was a door that led to
the main corridor into the dormitories.“They used to come and pick people and you
used to pray to God that they wouldn’t get you.”Earlier at the care home in
Liverpool, he recalls being electrocuted, stripped naked and having his genitalia
fondled by staff.Keith, who as well as being beaten says he was sexually molested
at Bryn Estyn, said: “There was a thing called the Borstal showers that was
horrendous.“It was a circle of showers where all boys had to shower while being
watched.“They would run you through them so you’d be frozen, scolded, frozen,
scolded and you’d do this for an hour.

“They’d stand there whipping you and they’d touch you with a stick.”Keith, who was
12 when he went to Bryn Estyn after playing truant and committing petty thefts,
believes his disabilities were the underlying reason he ended up in care.“I was born
deaf and I had dyslexia and in those days, they didn’t know what dyslexia was.“I
struggled all through my junior and infants schools, but managed to get through.
“Then when we went to high school, I just couldn’t cope and the teachers were
giving me hidings because they thought I wouldn’t do the work.“In the end, I just
had to play truant because I couldn’t do the work.”
Like his brother, once in Bryn Estyn he never went to school again, but was given a
series of menial tasks to keep him occupied.Keith, who received £3,000 in
compensation for the abuse he suffered, says it impacted on the rest of his life.A
divorced father-of-four, he has had several long-term relationships but says he
found it impossible to trust his partners and has previously told Wales on Sunday’s
sister paper the Western Mail he was violent towards them.Prime Minister David
Cameron ordered an urgent investigation into whether the Waterhouse
inquiry “properly did its job” after the allegations of abuse at Bryn Estyn re-
emerged.
Home Secretary Theresa May ordered the separate police inquiry led by the
National Crime Agency into claims of abuse.But these have been criticised as knee-
jerk reactions after Mr Messham apologised to former Tory Party treasurer Lord
McAlpine after confirming that he was not the man responsible for abusing him as a
teenager.Also the BBC has been attacked in some quarters over its Newsnight
report of the allegations.

There have been claims the organisation revisited the story to deflect attention
from it own mishandling of the Savile affair after Newsnight’s editors decided
against airing a report linking the TV personality to child abuse.
Former Bryn Estyn teacher Gwen Hurst, 69, said the claims about the scale of the
abuse centred on the home and its residents have been exaggerated by
compensation-hungry former residents.
Mrs Hurst, 69, who worked there between 1975 and 1983, also said suggestions
Savile visited the home were ridiculous.The former teacher, who is a member of
Falsely Accused Carers and Teachers (FACT), said: “What I’ve always said is I’ve
never denied that abuse took place at Bryn Estyn, but it never, ever happened on
the scale they’ve made out.”Mrs Hurst, who to this day maintains Howarth was
innocent, added: “And certainly a lot of lies have been told.”


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Care home abuse: Missing report found in archives

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Investigators in Operation Pallial have found evidence of 140 allegations of historical abuse between 1963 and 1992. Seventy six new complainants have also come forward. The claims centre on 18 homes involving offences against boys and girls aged between seven and 19. A total of 84 suspected offenders have been named - 75 male and nine female. Of these, 16 have been named by more than one complainant.
Keith Gregory, a Wrexham councillor who alleges he was abused as a child while in care at Bryn Estyn, says victims will feel they are now being believed. "To bring justice these allegations need to be looked at," said Mr Gregory.

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North Wales care abuse: Jillings report published after 17 yearsBryn Estyn care
home in North Wales in 1992 The alleged abuse centred on homes like Wrexham's
former Bryn Estyn in the 70s and 80s

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A report written 17 years ago into claims of abuse at children's homes in north
Wales in the 1970s and 1980s is finally being published.Its author John Jillings told
the BBC that abuse was widespread and that children "weren't treated like human
beings" by some staff.His 1996 report was shelved by the former Clwyd county
council because insurers feared compensation claims.

It is being published now in the wake of fresh investigations into the abuse.

Separate inquiries are looking at whether abuse claims were more widespread than
previously thought.Allegations of abuse at several children's homes, including the
former Bryn Estyn home in Wrexham, emerged in the 1990s.North Wales Police
investigated the claims in 1991 and seven former care workers were convicted.
But as more claims of widespread abuse in almost 40 homes emerged, the former
Clwyd County Council commissioned Mr Jillings in March 1994 to investigate.

'Bestial'

Mr Jillings, a former director of social services for Derbyshire, said the council was
worried about costly insurance claims and his report never saw the light of day.
A redacted [edited] version of the 300-page report will finally be made public and
published online on Monday following a Freedom of Information (FoI) request by
the BBC. Interviewed shortly before its publication Mr Jillings told the BBC that
abuse was widespread within a group of homes where children were isolated.
He said: "They didn't have regular supervisory visits from headquarters staff, as I
understand it. Or if they did, they weren't very searching.

"So the staff for 99% of their time were on their own with the children, could treat
them as they wished.

"They regarded them as children who were out of control and they thought the way
of dealing with that is by severely treating them.

"The treatment of children was bestial really; they weren't treated like human
beings, by some members of staff at any rate.

"I mean some children died, 10 children died. Some of them committed suicide."

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John Jillings says some of the treatment was 'bestial' At least 10 children died,

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The Jillings inquiry was followed by another investigation by the late Sir Ronald
Waterhouse, which took four years to complete.

Sir Ronald found there had been "appalling mistreatment" of children over a period
of 20 years.He had gathered evidence from 650 people, with most allegations
focusing on seven homes. Last year the scandal re-emerged after a victim claimed
the Waterhouse report in 2000 had not uncovered the full scale of the abuse.
Home Secretary Theresa May then launched a new police inquiry into the abuse
allegations. And Clwyd council's successor authorities such as Flintshire County
Council and Wrexham County Borough Council began searching their archives for a
copy of that report.The successor authorities are also due to publish a statement
and outline the reasons for the redactions that have been made


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23199905

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