"Very thought provoking" the story of the Tower of Babel. Why did the GODS divide us?

[ljwheat]

Very thought provoking, I feel most of our human problems came at the hands of the Self proclaimed Gods depicted in the bible, Only one of many manipulative points in our history = the story of the Tower of Babble.

(God's) said in Genesis 11:6, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them." (NIV) Gods realizes that when people are unified in purpose they can accomplish impossible feats,

Gods talking amongst them selves ? in a story decided to take free will away and give us separate languages.?

So we “human” were divided by the definitions of the one word (Language) we were speaking at the time? Divide and concur at this point took on a whole new meaning and pain and suffering was injected into human thoughts.

"If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them."

Then nothing they plan to do will be impossible.

And here in this Time (presant day); we talk of prime creator? At what point dose humanity break away from prime controller’s of old and now new. Divide and concur let us go down and add more confusion to the mix, free will? Same as free vote? We think we have a handle on it and are now thinking everything is seperate?

I believe in no choice, staying away from choice that was split up and handed to us by the Gods, no choice as in staying Neutral in all things - away from labeling anything,

One thought that all is, as it should be, embracing everything silent watcher (with no breaking it down to have a meaning.)

Neutral is all things before its given a definition dividing it into your understanding or my understanding.

All thing exist with out understanding, understanding is what the Gods gave us and choice at the tower of Babble.

Taking away Neutrality took away our ability to unconditional love in all things. Both words neutral and love unconditionally are the same thing, that was divided at the tower. Taking us away from = that all things work as One creation All / not separate adding diversity choices killed oneness of all things are neutral energy, not separate as beliefs were inter deuced at the Tower. There is no separate of anything till they gave us free will and choice at the Tower.

We all know how whistle down the lane works, how about Babble down threw history with free will.

All things are energy there is no choice-- Different frequency are still energy (faster or slower) nothing in existence is not with out energy, = one energy just different amplitudes of it.

(Only unlimited energy), the gods gave us a way of dividing energy into batteries, individuals each from the energy that’s all around us.

Keeping us contained in a single battery, and no longer connected to all of energy, not just source--- its tied to all of energy too. They have put us in a jar, a jar of water separate from the ocean we came from and are a part of but not separate.

One drop of the ocean is the whole ocean. At Babble we where handed a jar to jump in. and we believed it, the ocean in now greater than the one drop taken from it. We are the ocean we are looking for.

Home is reconnecting with the ocean, stop being a separate drop of the ocean we are. How do you divide energy or water. You contain it.

At Babble it began. There is no prime ocean, (Creator) to do so divides it again, nothing is greater than the one drop or the many. Its all one, --- no head or end just eternal ‘is’ Ness Neutral. Love. Energy. With out labels, of divide and concur.

How can the ocean be separate form the land that supports it. Are they not both energy, witch one is superior if there both energy.

And the air that’s above both land and sea, is it superior to the two bellow it? Or as energy the same and equal three parts as one. The energy calling its self a God is it not the same energy as the whole? Divide and concur once again from out of our past.

One drop of the ocean is all of creation and all of creation is the drop. Holograms of its self with out beginning or end. Just Energy. No truths, no Gods, no un-energy. The ocean of creation complete un-ending energy. Neutral. Unconditional. No right or wrong, just neutral energy. One drop is all, all is one drop. There is no separation to energy. Just thinking that was changed at the Tower of Babble or before who knows how long this has been going on, divide and concur I’m your god so it has to be so crap.

Just a thought, IMO nothing is seperate if it exists its energy. :doh:

[conk]

Very interesting thoughts indeed. Makes much sense and we know for a fact that 'divide and conquer' is in the top 3 of the controllers gamebook.

P.s. Just found your paintings. Very good! The gull flying over the coast looks 3D!.

[johnf]

I find it fascinating how many stories/justifications for duality are found in religious documents. The story the apple and the serpent seems to be the first that has been handed down. The taking into oneself the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. In my words this boils down to the following of ones desires for what we think duality can give us, the feeling of being better than others. This wouldn't occur if one didn't believe that one wasn't good enough as one was already.

I think the answer to the question in the title of the thread is because they are themselves divided, and have been conquered themselves, even if that is only by themselves.

[ljwheat]

I think the answer to the question in the title of the thread is because they are themselves divided, and have been conquered themselves, even if that is only by themselves.

Yes I see your point, and would or could be looked at from several vantage points.

God ET’s, or Human controller’s (story constructs)

I think all knowing invisible man can be ruled out. This would never be in a creator’s résumé. And the so called book of knowledge as the bible is a very unintelligent construct at best.

Nature is a perfect example of what that book is not. With religions messing it up even further.

The book (Forbidden archeology “the origins of man”. ) has uncovered artifacts and writings back as fare as 800 million years old that show Man long before the seemingly resent constructs of God or Gods in less than 2,000 years ago.

26,000 cycles in 800 million years, that’s over two hundred time’s we’ve went threw the end times scenario. This time around we have a invisible God who is clearly divided him self from all that is. And that’s just going by what we’ve come up with so fare.

Book burning’s in our recent history has crippled investigating the many reasons behind a serious look deeper into the tree of knowledge as this God said not to do.

An all knowing God who couldn’t find Adam and Eve after they had eaten of this tree? Strange ???

They were the only two people and yet told there son’s to go out into the world and find wives for themselves ????????? :tape:

[ljwheat]

Here is the link to this book mantioned above.
http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/fabook.htm
Since its initial release in 1993, Forbidden Archeology has consistently ranked as an international bestseller in the archeology category of Amazon.com.
The original complete edition and its abridged popular version, The Hidden History of the Human Race, have caused shockwaves around the world, both in scientific circles and among the general public.
Forbidden Archeology and its abridged counterpart have been published in the US, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Russia, South America, Poland, Czech Republic, Korea, and Lithuania. Distributed exclusively by TORCHLIGHT PUBLISHING

Why has Forbidden Archeology generated such intense reactions from the scientific community? One reason is that the book quickly became an underground classic, not only in alternative science circles, but amongst inquisitive seekers in mainstream academia. Its unprecedented comparison of both accepted and anomalous evidence for human evolution stunned scientists by showing that extensive anomalous evidence stands up equally well, if not better, than accepted evidence. After shocking the scientific world, Forbidden Archeology caught the general public's attention with the 1996 broadcast of an NBC-TV special called The Mysterious Origins of Man that featured the book. Establishment scientists felt so threatened by this program that they lobbied the Federal Communications Commission to censure and fine NBC for airing it. Thus by exposing this scientifc coverup and knowledge filtration network Cremo and Thompson revealed some painful truths about human evolution to the prevailing regime and subsequently threatened their exclusive monopoly of funding, intellectual authority, and social prestige.

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[ljwheat]

Well after reading Bill Ryans thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis), we really don’t have much to loose in turning this barrel over and seeing what else falls out. If what coming at the end of this 26,000 year cycle all the lie’s and deceptions are we on an ark or a titanic ? From present day here is a video to add to the mix, to what if -- is possible and what may be on our door step. Days or weeks left? Who knows I feel its close like the rest of you. Here’s George K. enjoy.

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[lookbeyond]

Thanks so much ljwheat for the thread and fantastic links

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[Lotse]

It’s a volatile, challenging time to be alive, no doubt.,And the bible was a tool helping or used by tptcb creating this world and now the world is a landscape thoroughly scattered with catastrophic nightmares like flaming lava pits on a giant festering orb. And this huge array of drastic, life-threatening problems we’re facing that are burning in the world’s collective subconscious are apparently careening towards some mad, apocalyptic finale.

The big question we’re all faced with is this. Once we’re aware of what’s going on, what do we do? And more importantly, for those not willing to face the truth, what will it take to wake them up?
And third: does that predominant attitude make it inevitable for the rest of us to share their fate?

What does one do as they observe the deliberately imploded economy, the corporate thuggery pillaging the world, a manipulated media bent on an ignorant, placated populace, the ramped up rape of the environment, the poisoning of our food, water and air supply, the drugging of our children, and wars without end appearing to be leading up to a horrific nuclear conflagration?

What is our role in what we discover to be a literally predatory environment in a hijacked world?

Here’s How:

Identify The Problems Are Real and Deliberate

The first issue is to clearly identify the problems and admit their gravity. Second, we need to understand the objective of these apparent trends, however horrific these motives may appear to be.
But let me get one thing straight before we go on any further.
In light of the vastness of these incontrovertible assaults on humanity and the obvious connections to corporate, banking and government insanity, whoever does NOT think that there’s an underlying motive with definite objectives by those controlling these massive programs is a stark raving lunatic, voluntarily living in a straightjacket of self-preserving denial, staring in a zombified trance at the shadows on their cell walls.

Secondly and similarly, if anyone thinks it’s simply “greed gone wild” that’s causing these problems and an unfortunate cyclical downturn of some sort, they need to get their minds blown.
And I’m here to help.

Why Doesn’t Money Satisfy The Controllers If It’s Just Greed? Cuz It’s Power and Control

Tell me something. If everything was done just for money, why don’t they stop there? These elites know they couldn’t spend what they have in a thousand lifetimes. So why do they keep pushing?
Why do wealthy people run for office when their coffers are overflowing? Why do banksters keep loaning money they know they won’t get it back to nation after nation as they slowly take over their economies and politics? The infamous Rothschilds are estimated to be worth over 500 trillion dollars yet keep pushing for more international “programs” and intervention.

Why?

Do you see the world improving because of their efforts? Do the mega-rich dynasties, industrialists, royal families, or the uber-wealthy Vatican chip in a non self-serving dime to help the world?
Or has the plug been pulled deliberately and we’re now in free-fall towards worldwide disaster? And could someone possibly be positioning themselves to pick up the pieces and take control of the filet that’s left on the world’s butcher block once the scraps have been extricated and thrown to the dogs of war?

Living A Conscious Life

The issue and point of this article isn’t to run once again through the litany of wrongs being deliberately perpetrated on humanity and its home. If you’re reading this, chances are you’ve caught on to some extent and hopefully are active in the awakening, or are on an accelerating path to the stage of awareness where you realize to not take action is impossible, if you have any semblance of awakened consciousness. That will come, believe me.

To be conscious means to act according to consciousness, not just think or realize in some ashram. I’m sure those folks have their place, but if you’re a somewhat normal operating human trying to exist in a world bent on abusing and even killing you off, there are some serious challenges involved as to what exactly to do.

This Is Where The Universe Comes In

You cannot…and there’s no exception to this..you cannot operate solely in the mental and physical realm and expect to understand what’s going on and where your place is in all this. You may be led there in spite of your blockage, but it’s absolutely essential to have a spiritual awakening in your life.

I’m in no way talking about religion. But I guarantee if you’re pursuing truth like I think you are, the spiritual, metaphysical, esoteric, whatever you want to call it, side of all this is becoming very, very apparent. And it’s vastly empowering. Right?

Our Refuge and Armament

The most important tool in our arsenal is the ability to listen to and act according to our hearts, our source, our spirit, our connection to consciousness. Call it God, the Universe or the underlying powers inherent in Chi, Ki, Prana or whatever. Learning to listen to a deeper influence and act in responsible, loving conscious awareness is the answer.

And we must grow in this area to meet the challenges of our time. Like the internet, our old modes of communication have been tampered with and will be used against us.

Spotting the Predators

Like the Hollywood ephemeral cloaked predator character, these mostly unseen forces we are up against can usually only be spotted by their effects, like leaves and branches moving in an organized pattern as the enemy approaches. Never mind the fact that the real government leaders and societal directors are not the ones we see in the news and that others are telling them what to do, the powers behind ALL of this we can safely assume are another level removed, and I would contend are ultimately spiritual, or other dimensional.

At the very least, call it evil people and you’ll be right. But the extent and source of this evil is quite revelatory when the next level of dots starts to connect for you. I don’t claim to know everything that’s going on, but the point is we’re up against a vastly interconnected conspiracy that, like seeing the leaves rustle when the transparent predator approaches, you can only identify by their effects.

And it’s important that we’re aware of this next level.

Any Way You Look At It It’s Nasty…But Make Some Conclusions
The point is, we don’t need to know every detail before drawing some very obvious conclusions.

1. A LOT of serious somethings are very wrong with the world.
2. World so-called “leadership” is out of touch, self serving and apparently working towards some other agenda.
3. This other agenda does not necessarily benefit you and me. They’re elitists with their own plans.
4. People are dying, being poisoned, starved and outright killed at a horrific rate, while food is withheld and medical care has become restricted and basically wealth-producing pharmaceutical in nature.
5. The extremely wealthy Powers That Be refuse to give any form of aid except to their own institutions and cohorts.
6. You are sitting at home wondering what the hell is going on while reading this article.
7. What are you going to DO with your life now that you realize this?

I hope you’ll follow your heart.

That’s my wish, prayer and affirmation. We need an energetic revolution, a call to real conscious action. That action is continuous open awareness and responding to the call of the Heart!

[ikkibu]

Interesting stuff:)
found this video and it is very well made and entertaining. It gives a nice and different perspective:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAm-kbzT7xw&list=FLVBIo8AZ9-pDMMZ2ypHDRhw&index=1&feature=plpp_video

[ljwheat]

Interesting stuff:)
found this video and it is very well made and entertaining. It gives a nice and different perspective:)


Thank you ikkibu, I have come across the information in this video in continued increments threw out the last 50 years a lot of new information I didn’t quite connect with is brought forwards threw this video.

My core feeling and thought in considering all this is still one of the basic indestructible spirit, or silent watcher inhabited consciousness came to experience separation from its higher self to simple get away from the eternal boredom of eternity.

Pretty much like we do physically with sleep to rest and recharge our mental batteries.

And everything is as I should be spiritually, and all this other stuff is what keeps us asleep in playing games with each other till said time spirit wakes up and rejoins itself.

This video is great bringing all the aspects together for mind and body to understand and reflect upon.

Thank you John xoxo

[ljwheat]

I hope you’ll follow your heart.

That’s my wish, prayer and affirmation. We need an energetic revolution, a call to real conscious action. That action is continuous open awareness and responding to the call of the Heart!

Lotse. Thank you for your well thought out inspiration on this topic. I hear you and your concerns.

One thing we must look at is free will rights of the individual.

Back up a bit what or who flipped you light switch on do you remember when you finally just got it, and it all seemed to fit together. And how all that gathering of knowledge came to you in bits and peaces over how many years, of looking or just reading something that sounded ridiculous at the time you came across it?

Everyone is on a very large latter, we all are and depending on what rung your standing on the thing you see from that vantage point make sense while the four rungs above you and how you get there, you may not know they even exist.

Who knows what we will know tomorrow, as for a show or magic wand to tap people on the shoulder with, look at what tapped you on your shoulder and what it took for you to get there. At what point did you not know this stuff your talking about today?

I don’t think anyone yanked you out of your life or chair and dropped you on the middle part of the ladder. it’s a possess we all must walk or climb or go around and under the ladder.

And that’s our right to sleep, awaken, or just be ok with what is. A revelation of any kind has never worked or will it. A reformed smoker or alcoholic thinks how great it would be if only people could just see how easy it was for me to turn around.

Monkey see monkey do is the best example we can bring before the world, be the change smoke free, alcohol free, deception free, let that light shine, and maybe someone will ask how you can be the way you are now and how you got there.

Everyone wants to be a millionaire, but you know deep down its not by flipping a switch. And if it is, you’ve seen people loose everything after winning the lotto plus what they had before the ill gain of to much to soon.

You could write a book on how you came to knowing all you’ve put into this post and were you at now. How many time did we here this stuff before sitting down and taking notice, and It finally registered and made any sense at all?

And shoving people into this web site, or why of thinking is not going to happen, because now "WE KNOW" and so should the world. IMO john xoxo

[lookbeyond]

It’s a volatile, challenging time to be alive, no doubt.,And the bible was a tool helping or used by tptcb creating this world and now the world is a landscape thoroughly scattered with catastrophic nightmares like flaming lava pits on a giant festering orb. And this huge array of drastic, life-threatening problems we’re facing that are burning in the world’s collective subconscious are apparently careening towards some mad, apocalyptic finale.

The big question we’re all faced with is this. Once we’re aware of what’s going on, what do we do? And more importantly, for those not willing to face the truth, what will it take to wake them up?
And third: does that predominant attitude make it inevitable for the rest of us to share their fate?

What does one do as they observe the deliberately imploded economy, the corporate thuggery pillaging the world, a manipulated media bent on an ignorant, placated populace, the ramped up rape of the environment, the poisoning of our food, water and air supply, the drugging of our children, and wars without end appearing to be leading up to a horrific nuclear conflagration?

What is our role in what we discover to be a literally predatory environment in a hijacked world?

Here’s How:

Identify The Problems Are Real and Deliberate

The first issue is to clearly identify the problems and admit their gravity. Second, we need to understand the objective of these apparent trends, however horrific these motives may appear to be.
But let me get one thing straight before we go on any further.
In light of the vastness of these incontrovertible assaults on humanity and the obvious connections to corporate, banking and government insanity, whoever does NOT think that there’s an underlying motive with definite objectives by those controlling these massive programs is a stark raving lunatic, voluntarily living in a straightjacket of self-preserving denial, staring in a zombified trance at the shadows on their cell walls.

Secondly and similarly, if anyone thinks it’s simply “greed gone wild” that’s causing these problems and an unfortunate cyclical downturn of some sort, they need to get their minds blown.
And I’m here to help.

Why Doesn’t Money Satisfy The Controllers If It’s Just Greed? Cuz It’s Power and Control

Tell me something. If everything was done just for money, why don’t they stop there? These elites know they couldn’t spend what they have in a thousand lifetimes. So why do they keep pushing?
Why do wealthy people run for office when their coffers are overflowing? Why do banksters keep loaning money they know they won’t get it back to nation after nation as they slowly take over their economies and politics? The infamous Rothschilds are estimated to be worth over 500 trillion dollars yet keep pushing for more international “programs” and intervention.

Why?

Do you see the world improving because of their efforts? Do the mega-rich dynasties, industrialists, royal families, or the uber-wealthy Vatican chip in a non self-serving dime to help the world?
Or has the plug been pulled deliberately and we’re now in free-fall towards worldwide disaster? And could someone possibly be positioning themselves to pick up the pieces and take control of the filet that’s left on the world’s butcher block once the scraps have been extricated and thrown to the dogs of war?

Living A Conscious Life

The issue and point of this article isn’t to run once again through the litany of wrongs being deliberately perpetrated on humanity and its home. If you’re reading this, chances are you’ve caught on to some extent and hopefully are active in the awakening, or are on an accelerating path to the stage of awareness where you realize to not take action is impossible, if you have any semblance of awakened consciousness. That will come, believe me.

To be conscious means to act according to consciousness, not just think or realize in some ashram. I’m sure those folks have their place, but if you’re a somewhat normal operating human trying to exist in a world bent on abusing and even killing you off, there are some serious challenges involved as to what exactly to do.

This Is Where The Universe Comes In

You cannot…and there’s no exception to this..you cannot operate solely in the mental and physical realm and expect to understand what’s going on and where your place is in all this. You may be led there in spite of your blockage, but it’s absolutely essential to have a spiritual awakening in your life.

I’m in no way talking about religion. But I guarantee if you’re pursuing truth like I think you are, the spiritual, metaphysical, esoteric, whatever you want to call it, side of all this is becoming very, very apparent. And it’s vastly empowering. Right?

Our Refuge and Armament

The most important tool in our arsenal is the ability to listen to and act according to our hearts, our source, our spirit, our connection to consciousness. Call it God, the Universe or the underlying powers inherent in Chi, Ki, Prana or whatever. Learning to listen to a deeper influence and act in responsible, loving conscious awareness is the answer.

And we must grow in this area to meet the challenges of our time. Like the internet, our old modes of communication have been tampered with and will be used against us.

Spotting the Predators

Like the Hollywood ephemeral cloaked predator character, these mostly unseen forces we are up against can usually only be spotted by their effects, like leaves and branches moving in an organized pattern as the enemy approaches. Never mind the fact that the real government leaders and societal directors are not the ones we see in the news and that others are telling them what to do, the powers behind ALL of this we can safely assume are another level removed, and I would contend are ultimately spiritual, or other dimensional.

At the very least, call it evil people and you’ll be right. But the extent and source of this evil is quite revelatory when the next level of dots starts to connect for you. I don’t claim to know everything that’s going on, but the point is we’re up against a vastly interconnected conspiracy that, like seeing the leaves rustle when the transparent predator approaches, you can only identify by their effects.

And it’s important that we’re aware of this next level.

Any Way You Look At It It’s Nasty…But Make Some Conclusions
The point is, we don’t need to know every detail before drawing some very obvious conclusions.

1. A LOT of serious somethings are very wrong with the world.
2. World so-called “leadership” is out of touch, self serving and apparently working towards some other agenda.
3. This other agenda does not necessarily benefit you and me. They’re elitists with their own plans.
4. People are dying, being poisoned, starved and outright killed at a horrific rate, while food is withheld and medical care has become restricted and basically wealth-producing pharmaceutical in nature.
5. The extremely wealthy Powers That Be refuse to give any form of aid except to their own institutions and cohorts.
6. You are sitting at home wondering what the hell is going on while reading this article.
7. What are you going to DO with your life now that you realize this?

I hope you’ll follow your heart.

That’s my wish, prayer and affirmation. We need an energetic revolution, a call to real conscious action. That action is continuous open awareness and responding to the call of the Heart!

Hello Lotse, thankyou for such an energetic post. With reguard to following the heart, if you dont mind would you give some specific examples of how to apply in your life?
For myself, my job as a nurse allows me opportunity to give from the heart, but are you talking about taking this above our own worlds?

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[latshaw]

don't misinterpret its meaning...they were more concerned with things of the world and not their souls.. Basically what is going on now. The more we integrate the more we communicate and want more and more of the World (power, money, etc.). In doing so, we set aside the the growth of the Spirit. People become more interested in what they can do, not who they really are. We live in the world but we are not OF the world. When we begin to recognize who we are in Christ, we are attacked in the beginning with discouragement; in the middle of our life we are hit with disappointment (i.e., I thought I would have accomplished X by now); toward the end of our life we are hit with fatigue to distract us. That is why we have to be strong - no matter what - we have to run the race strong..not fast. Remember the Tortoise and the Hare? The idea is to finish the race and that is only done through trust and faith.

[a1exanderga11ier]

"If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them."

Then nothing they plan to do will be impossible.


When an Individual or a unified collective of Individuals begin to transcend status quo, those whose interests are in maintaining that order feel sickening, acute fear.

In the case of the "gods," far be it for the primate Terrans to equal them in any endeavor beyond a natural resource. By introducing national boundaries, linguistics, and (essentially) culture, we begin to see differences rather than commonalities.

In context, many god-playing visitors to this Planet in the past introduced personality cults in an effort to aggrandize their own egos. Human beings, as a created Race, only had what their creators and their intermediaries taught them to go on. We learned very well prejudice, suspicion, and warfare.

I don't believe that the "gods" counted on Spirit being so strong with us. Ancient Souls could incarnate very soon after the new physical bodies were available; what a wonderful opportunity it must have been to be able to re-create themselves in a space of abject amnesia. This aspect of the situation -- spiritually speaking -- is still "new and exciting" given our lifespans versus our potential as a species.

Transcending this "Babel" paradigm is our biggest challenge, but then again we -- as a Race -- love challenges. And with our historical precedent as case in point, when we come together once again in love, we just may "out-god" the "gods."

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Great post, btw ljw

[ljwheat]

I find it fascinating how many stories/justifications for duality are found in religious documents. The story the apple and the serpent seems to be the first that has been handed down. The taking into oneself the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. In my words this boils down to the following of ones desires for what we think duality can give us, the feeling of being better than others. This wouldn't occur if one didn't believe that one wasn't good enough as one was already.

I think the answer to the question in the title of the thread is because they are themselves divided, and have been conquered themselves, even if that is only by themselves.

Johnf, just reviewing old threads, and the recent Devide and Concur episodes playing out here on Avalon forum brought me back to a thought you brought up “this wouldn’t occur if one didn’t believe that one wasn’t good enough as one was already” got me thinking on when did this not good enough start in my life or yours ?

Very Young very impressionable - where the gods were interdicted early in life that I believed heart and soul in was Mom an Dad. Who were indoctrinated by this very early in life as well -- the blind leading the blind whistle down the lane Divide and Concur you attention and belief as early in this new impressionable life as possible.

And they shall govern the future from off spring to adult, a cycle unbroken since history has recorded the gods taking over, each god with its own off spring building its corporation to live off of. The question now is how do we unincorporate back to being complete as we came in at birth. Where everything is divide and contoured in the mind early in life.? :smash:

[ljwheat]

Transcending this "Babel" paradigm is our biggest challenge, but then again we -- as a Race -- love challenges. And with our historical precedent as case in point, when we come together once again in love, we just may "out-god" the "gods."


I realy love this statement Out - god the gods. WOW thats cool. :playball: Just going back over a good topic and wanting to stay close to this train of thought. :yo:

[ljwheat]

In retrospect at babble the term GODS - plural decided to come down and give each his own language to break up one thinking in accord race of men.

And further on one of these Gods tells us I’m a jealous god and you will not have any other god before me. Is in fact God him self admitting there are more than one Gods and so these Gods are not on the same page either. And we came here to this level where there are beings calling them selves Gods and since we don’t remember where we came from as spirit into a incarnated body as spirit. And its said that Jesus did this very thing spirit becoming human -- holy crap how did we miss this truth - that all of us did what Jesus did came to earth as a man as spirit.

How are religions getting away with this? “grab the young -- divide and concur” program the blank computer then release it to the general public with the new and improved window 8 at the tower of babble and on. Introduce infinite possibilities free will to -- never allow anyone to ever be on the same page again. Ever. :smash:

Much Love to us all :grouphug: :bump:

[humanalien]

God wasn't admitting that there are other spiritual
gods, other than him. He was referring to people
creating golden calves(for instance) and bowing
down and praying to these false idols aka false gods.

Right at the beginning though, God does say, "Let
Us Create Man in Our Image, After Our Likeness".

Who is God talking to? Who is "Us" that God is
talking about?

[ljwheat]

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