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spiritguide
15th November 2012, 16:21
The article linked to adds to the ongoing struggle within the government for control.

Lead in....

“The case that can be made to any reasonable observer is that violation of Iranian airspace did happen, that there was ‘hot pursuit’ by fighter aircraft and that International Law would allow, not just destruction of the drone but may well allow an attack on the base where the drone is launched.”

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Nearly two weeks ago, an American drone fled Iranian airspace when controllers received intelligence noting that an Iranian plane was giving chase. The term used in International Law for such an incident is known as “hot pursuit.”
The short of it is clear. Any nation that is attacked can pursue the attackers until they enter the territory or airspace of a neutral nation. However, any nation that would supply bases used for violating another nation’s sovereignty using “platforms” that are typically armed is not neutral.

Thus, International Law is clear on this:

According to “The Right of Hot Pursuit in International Law,” Second Edition, by Nicholas M. Poulantzas, any nation that has its sovereignty violated by one of three classes of forces, naval, air or ground, is free to pursue those forces and destroy them up to the time they enter proven neutral safe havens.

Then other, diplomatic, methods apply.
The case that can be made to any reasonable observer is that violation of Iranian airspace did happen, that there was “hot pursuit” by fighter aircraft and that International Law would allow, not just destruction of the drone but may well allow an attack on the base where the drone is launched.

Link to article.... http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/15/press-tv-us-drones-over-iran/

More perspective and pieces to the puzzle.

TargeT
15th November 2012, 16:58
your title is more than slightly misleading ;)

spiritguide
15th November 2012, 17:08
your title is more than slightly misleading ;)

I will change the title to suit you. If you read the article you will read so in the last few paragraphs. It is done....

The original post title posed a question as indicated by the question mark, it was not a misleading statement.

:peace:

TargeT
15th November 2012, 17:19
your title is more than slightly misleading ;)

I will change the title to suit you. If you read the article you will read so in the last few paragraphs. It is done....

:peace:

vauge unsubstanciated, but yes it was slightly mentioned (somewhat).

There are armed drones flown in the US, this is where the training area's exsist so technically it's true, but I wouldn't kick up fear dust just yet.. VT is widly speculating in that article & most of it is based on guesses not actual eyewitness testimony or actual proof.

I'd say keep an eye on it but don't freak out.

spiritguide
15th November 2012, 20:07
Information is just posted, no fear factor involved for me. 5W's

GoodETxSG
15th November 2012, 20:27
Sorry peeps... the genie is out of the bottle... we gave them an inch and they tool away our constitutional rights... they are officially GONE! To get them back will (If we are willing to pay the price, or even get up off the couch or from the computer) is going to cost the blood of patriots.

ThePythonicCow
15th November 2012, 21:55
your title is more than slightly misleading ;)

I will change the title to suit you.
The original thread title was:


Drone use over the U.S. (armed) ?

spiritguide changed the title on the opening post to:



Drone use over Iran? Likewise in the U.S.?
Only moderators, not members, can change thread titles, once posted.

Based on the above discussion, I suppose that spiritguide would like the thread title changed as well.

So I am now changing the thread title to the same thing:



Drone use over Iran? Likewise in the U.S.?

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If you read the article you will read so in the last few paragraphs. It is done....
It seems that VeteransToday.com is down right now, so I can't follow the link to http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11/15/press-tv-us-drones-over-iran/

Probably just an unrelated technical glitch ... probably :).

spiritguide
16th November 2012, 01:58
Must be that the information at that site is hot, it still has technical problems. What are the odds of a hack attack? But if they can hack the director of CIA's email then all bets are off. lol Think CoreyG has a point, behind the scenes battle moving center stage and getting hotter. Oath Keepers or Controllers (Cabal) we have a choice.

ghostrider
16th November 2012, 03:24
look how easy it is to start a mess, just fly off course a little into someone's airspace, they think they are under drone attack, responding with fighter jets , shoot it down , and all hell starts , all over pressing the x button instead of the o button on the PS2 . Watch the next thing, the drone program will be hacked and our own madness will be used against us...Oh thats right our main general is too busy shagging his assistant. Our president too busy campaigning, Our secretary of state too busy prepairing to go out the door, and that video guy ( bengazi) is still in jail without a trial. All the news cares about is E-mail gate. isn't it great to be free ??

norman
16th November 2012, 03:35
I've just heard, on the BBC, that it is currently illegal to use unmanned aircraft over British airspace.

Private companies are working hard to get the law changed.

They claim that unmanned aircraft can do jobs that are too dangerous for pilots in the air.

E.G.

Search and rescue beyond the regular flying hours and hours of daylight. Also, dangerous over flights of disaster sites.

I just heard this afternoon that you can buy a "Drone" on ebay for £250 !

Getting the cops to leave you alone to play with it is another story, apparently.