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Radi
18th November 2012, 00:03
I don't know in which section to post this. I just felt the need to share some thoughts of mine.
I see how the people I love have some ,,walls'' some ,,shields '' in their hearts, stopping the natural flow of love IN and OUT . It's like some mind trick doing this stuff I think..
There is so much love trapped inside wanting to go out and so much love waiting to enter. They can't stop the flow fully , but they can minimize it to the state needed only for survival. But how do they live like that I don't know! I think they suffer a lot from it! And that makes me really sad. Because I love them so much and I want to see how they shine and I want to see them happy and joyful ! I think that love is capable of breaking this walls and barriers in their hearts . But it's individual process for each person . I really hope everyone to clear his heart and not to let the mind and the ego to put some traps there!
Love is love and she must flow free IN and OUT of the hearts of each one of us. Without anything standing in her way! How to help the people I love to reach this state of Universal Love in their daily life? Am I sending them too much love ? Can love be too much to something or someone to deal with? Isn't love the most powerful healing force in the world? I think it is. And I think sharing my love to people with ,,blocked'' heart is actually helping them and planting the seeds of healing ... I don't know what else to do. Because with my mind I can show them how to free themselves from the layers blocking the flow, but they don't seem to receive my message properly. Or if they receive it , then it goes through a lot of mind twisting games , and it's losing the power and the meaning until it reaches the logical mind. Can love be put fully in to the logical mind? And how to help someone to be more open for the wonderful force of love? What else can I do except sending my love towards them?
Love is such a wonderful experience! But seems like it's so misunderstood by the brain...
I know that we are created from love and that love is our nature. But how is possible to love someone and to make him suffer and to make yourself suffer too , for some false mind ego games?

AwakeInADream
18th November 2012, 00:50
Just let love do it's thing! Take mind out of the equation.:)

Ellisa
18th November 2012, 01:06
You can't make someone love you and you cannot tell someone else what to think no matter how much you may long to.

Anastasia
18th November 2012, 02:33
Dear Radi and All:

Beautifully put, all of the deep feelings, the questions (we all share) and the longing to be at peace with it all.

I have found in my travels all these years, that I too asked these questions and I longed for the answer.

I believe that where I have found 'my peace' is in the 'beingness' of love.

Liken it to a firefly. She glows. Others may enter her sphere if they resonate. If they don't they won't.

Sounds so simple, but not easy!

When I have loved, and loved to be loved by another in the same way, I found that the only solution was within me.

What I mean by that is, I journeyed within to discover the "old wounded place" in the Shadows where a young hurt still resided.

That's a Pandora's Box...in itself!

How is that done? It is an individual journey. The desire to go there will open the path for you, I am sure.

At 58 years of age, I have peace within my heart. I am here to help if you need it.

Sincerely,
Anastasia

bram
18th November 2012, 02:33
Hi Radi,

Thank you for your post. You have to accept that other peoples conditioning, and specifically their karma, has brought them to where they are. Some people are stuck at this point, and may be stuck for many lifetimes to come for all we know.

All we can do is send out our love to them, try not to be frustrated because they are not where you are at, and trust that love will do its work in the end. It's all good!

Love, bram

Tony
18th November 2012, 08:35
I don't know in which section to post this. I just felt the need to share some thoughts of mine.
I see how the people I love have some ,,walls'' some ,,shields '' in their hearts, stopping the natural flow of love IN and OUT . It's like some mind trick doing this stuff I think..
There is so much love trapped inside wanting to go out and so much love waiting to enter. They can't stop the flow fully , but they can minimize it to the state needed only for survival. But how do they live like that I don't know! I think they suffer a lot from it! And that makes me really sad. Because I love them so much and I want to see how they shine and I want to see them happy and joyful ! I think that love is capable of breaking this walls and barriers in their hearts . But it's individual process for each person . I really hope everyone to clear his heart and not to let the mind and the ego to put some traps there!
Love is love and she must flow free IN and OUT of the hearts of each one of us. Without anything standing in her way! How to help the people I love to reach this state of Universal Love in their daily life? Am I sending them too much love ? Can love be too much to something or someone to deal with? Isn't love the most powerful healing force in the world? I think it is. And I think sharing my love to people with ,,blocked'' heart is actually helping them and planting the seeds of healing ... I don't know what else to do. Because with my mind I can show them how to free themselves from the layers blocking the flow, but they don't seem to receive my message properly. Or if they receive it , then it goes through a lot of mind twisting games , and it's losing the power and the meaning until it reaches the logical mind. Can love be put fully in to the logical mind? And how to help someone to be more open for the wonderful force of love? What else can I do except sending my love towards them?
Love is such a wonderful experience! But seems like it's so misunderstood by the brain...
I know that we are created from love and that love is our nature. But how is possible to love someone and to make him suffer and to make yourself suffer too , for some false mind ego games?



Hello Radi,

As you indicate love is a tricky business.
There is love, and there is 'my' love...they are not the same thing.

One is just giving, the other is wanting a result.
'I' fall into this trap every moment.

The good news is, we can see this and adjust our attitude.
There are so many ways to love, the trick is, not to expect
anything in return.





Tony

Radi
18th November 2012, 09:59
thank you all! yes I know that I have to leave love to do it's thing, and not to expect any results . Just to love and to shine ! I know that and I am doing it. I accept other peoples conditioning and karma. That's why I don't stop shining on them. I know its a long journey to self freedom.

Radi
18th November 2012, 10:08
You can't make someone love you and you cannot tell someone else what to think no matter how much you may long to.

this is totally true. and I don't want to force people to love me or to think what I think. It's everyone's personal journey and experience in life. I understand and accept that. It's just hard for me to watch how people I love, create suffering for themselves from some things that look to me absurd. I know that for them this things are real and serious, and not looking fake and illusional like they seem to me. But I was wondering if there is any way to help them to help themselves. I see how hard it is to try to show people something that they are not ready to understand and to see. I want to show them myself in my real light, not the light that they see me, because I want to create a real connection based on real things, not on illusions. But maybe such connections are just happening by themselves, they dont need to be made with doing somethings.

skamandar
18th November 2012, 13:50
Can love be too much to something or someone to deal with?

Actually It can.

Couple of years ago I had a dream. I met some pale, British guy, looking very miserable. I resented him ... After short conversation he told me "I miss you". This words changed all my life from then after.
I immediately felt that HUGE love energy flow in and out my heart. It was so overpowering that at some point I woke up with heart attack symptoms.

So yes too much love can kill you. I felt I was going to burst. There was not enough space in my body for all that was coming in.

Then just after I signed in project Avalon forum, there was offer from one of the forum members to do heart wall removal.

At that point I was well aware of that love energy coming through the heart and spreading all around.

I was also sure that me practicing on that flow is slowly but surely removing some blockages around the heart. But I was unhappy with the speed of my progress. I taught I was too slow. So I decided to do a shortcut and ask for a heart wall removal.

I new exactly when I was helped with that, because I felt such a relief... OMG it was amazing. I was jumping and dancing on the streets like crazy. Little did I know that that darkness will not just disappear into nothingness - I had to face it all at once.

I struggled for 8-9 months I was ... I cannot describe how I felt processing all that hatred, resentment, pity, ugly disgusting stuff. I was MAD.
If you ask me now, after the worst is over - I will do the sudden heart wall removal for sure - it speeded the process a lot. But if you asked me back then - when I faced my demons - well... I don't know...

I guess if you are able to gently make the people feel that love flow, the moment they feel it they will work on it - I have no doubts on that. No brain, no mind, no words, no actions can stop me working on it, now that I know of it. I appriciate so much all the heart attack, demon facing, sudden heart wall removing.

But pls if you can do/show/ help someone with all that - be gentle.

And thank you for the thread!

Lone Bean
18th November 2012, 21:08
Love is the ultimate life force. So, then why are animals considered to be 2D, though my cat tells me she loves me intensely? It's pure, unconditional, palpable LOVE gushing forth from her furry, little body. It's so simple from animals. Humans have to complicate it all up yet we're supposed to be 3D. I think it's the other way around.