30 days til 21/12/12

[BrianEn]

It's like the final countdown to see what's really gonna happen if it's all at once or something that's going to take some time to unfold or just have a continuance of business as usual.

[greybeard]

Think its the start of a new calender and life will unfold as it does.
Im positive about the possibility of an on going raising of consciousness.

Chris

[BrianEn]

I'm hoping for something like that. Some good news would be nice.

[Calz]

What I find more interesting than the mayan calandar (which is fascinating in it's own right) is the "looking glass" depictions of everyone utilizing it splitting off at that date based on their own level of consciousness.

Unless we have been handed a whole load of nonsense ... it really does seem like the approaching date will have quite an impact.

[BrianEn]

I think that just people in general have sent a lot of energies to this date. So something's gonna happen. I don't what. It's not like the anticipation leading up to Y2K which a let down. I used to think that 21/12 was gonna be doomsday, but have since changed my mind.

[greybeard]

I'm hoping for something like that. Some good news would be nice.

There is an enormous amount of pointers to good news out there BrianEn
and fair enough some not so good.

For sure the evidence for change in our solar system is there, its happening.

The Mayans and Hopi and other ethnic people are actually being very positive about the future.
They base this on cycles--its happened before -- history repeats with modifications and upgrades.
It is the nature of the universe to evolve.

Chris

[BrianEn]

The alternative media always has some good news. I don't watch mainstream news. So I miss out on what's going on there. It was more on an epression than anything else.

[applecrusher1992]

I am not one to feed into the 12/21 BS, but I felt this song is appropriate for this case.

9jK-NcRmVcw

[Hip Hipnotist]

Another day at the office -- or wherever.

When this date passes and nothing ( to speak of ) transpires there will be another. And another. And another.

Eventually 'something' will happen but I'm guessing it won't be the end of the world as we knew it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 'major change' like most ( if not all ) of you but on Dec. 21?

Just another day of obligatory Xmas shopping.

Yawn. ;-)

[BrianEn]

It is the final stretch to get to see. After years of wondering I'll finally see.

[eaglespirit]

Bringing it here from there...my simple 'download' upon awakening this morn:

Prompted to share a bit of a recent Download of mine...
You Here and Nowers are well on Your Own Ways with this...
but methinks it is about to become blatantly clear to the Good People still semi-stuck in 3d : )
And it is up to Us to help nudge Them along Their Own Ways with Their Own Means : )
......
The Winter Solstice 2012 is likened to a 'big' bump in the road, most Good Folks are gonna get a jolt and the flatbed truck they ae driving in 3d is going to lose ALL of it's cargo that is of NO USE to the 'shift'...it is going to open up, up, up, a clarity of purpose of which We have never ever seen or experienced before, anywhere!
It is as though the 'manipulators' of ALL of the distortions will have left the scene and what is going on in 3d will be on 'autopilot' with absolutely no one at the controls of the controllers.
The road ahead for that flatbed truck will be 'greased' with Higher Goodness and Folks will simply just 'get it' and that truck will stay straight and true on the road all by itself while Folks Free Will a whole new way of Being into Action, without interruption nor interference.
We Will actively WILL a whole New Creation together in front of Us as though Our Purest Dreams of Balance of the All of Mother Earth have been reality right along..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=587129&viewfull=1#post587129

[truth4me]

Well, the future and and any event will be there when we get there. I'm living in the NOW trying to spread love and putting out positive vibes. I'm through with the DOOMSDAY STUFF..............

[RMorgan]

Another day at the office -- or wherever.

When this date passes and nothing ( to speak of ) transpires there will be another. And another. And another.

Eventually 'something' will happen but I'm guessing it won't be the end of the world as we knew it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 'major change' like most ( if not all ) of you but on Dec. 21?

Just another day of obligatory Xmas shopping.

Yawn. ;-)

I agree with you mate,

Honestly, I don´t believe some sort of consciousness shift would happen like this, like magic.

I don´t believe the world will end either.

I just wonder for how long people will still believe in such doom predictions...I´m sure that most people who already believe this Dec 21th thing will instantly believe the next doom date when someone comes up with it.

How long it will take for people to realize that we have to act to change the world; We have to radically change our life style.

The funny thing is that the same people who are always saying that "everything is an illusion", insist to believe some sort of calendar, which is pretty much a bunch of numbers that we´ve invented to keep track of time; A calendar is pretty much an illusion by itself.

And the Mayans...They couldn´t predict their own horrible future, let alone predict some sort of cosmic change or the end of the world. Man, they murdered their own people to feed their "gods"; This kind of behavior doesn´t seem spiritually advanced to me.

If nothing happens, which I think it´s highly probable, I hope most people stop to ponder about their lives and their roles in this complicated society.

After all, what´s the point to keep an entire life waiting for a magical change, if we can be the change right now?

Cheers,

Raf.

[BrianEn]

I used to be all doomsday and stuff but now I'm kinda just hoping. Hoping for what, I don`t know. Even if nothing seems to happen Ill still go on hoping. Hope knows no end, no dates, no promises it just is.

[Wiremu2011]

If anything, it'll definitely be an upgrade in consciousness depending on each individuals current status, and as we've heard a thousand times, where and what you want moving forward - or backwards ;)
Having said that, I'm also inclined to think this planets on the verge of resetting itself, like in the days of Noah and Lot. Just saying! :)

[BrianEn]

As I was and still am going through recovery from my heart attack, I had many realizations about things. It raised my consciousness to some of the affects I had on the lives of others and just how much I am loved in my current form. That was kinda my 2012 for a bit. Now all those thoughts have settled nicely into my psyche. I still have to go with the physical healing.

[Tony]

Be happy with who you are now.
It's just another day, like today...perfect.

QYEC4TZsy-Y

Everyday is a crazy day!

lSIw09oqsYo

It may take time, but we will all get there.

Jt-YSHAr7c0

..and we can help one another!

C1KtScrqtbc

[baddbob]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/69395_421929034540263_168724399_n.jpg

[Tony]

All you have to be, is just be you...it will be infectious.

6KdviedF9iM

[Mutchie]

Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

[truth4me]

Speaking of Lou Reed and the perfect day the song below was my perfect day a few years back and I realize now it was anything but perfect.

Tw7RnZUWGrc

[greybeard]

Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

Being serious Mutchie--- So many people have envisaged x y and z they might just get what they envisaged.

David Sereda the astrophysicist said he would be surprised if nothing happens--- however I would be careful about counting on a specific date.
Some Mayans put it (an event) in a time frame but said the most unlikely date is the one most talked of.


At the risk of annoying people I post the relevant David Sereda Coast to Coast AM audio again.

The science is beyond me, as is his out of body experience--- how ever!!!!!

Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

[Snookie]

I think generally the world's population is slowly waking up. Just last night I went to an intuition class, and one of the people commented that 5 years ago she thought she was crazy and no one thought the same as she did. Now she is meeting people all over who are seeing the world the same way as her.

We are entering that part of the cosmos again where we are starting to see through all the BS the powers that want to be are throwing at us. This is scaring them witless. It's hard to say if they will try to pull something because they would hate for all the hype of 2012 to be wasted. Look at how much they hyped the 2012 movie. Now whether they will be successful or not is another question.

I believe they have tried to pull a lot of crap in the past that for one reason or another fell flat on it's face. I'm thinking about the swine flu scare as one example. One person decided to test it on a ferret at the last moment which normally wouldn't have been done at that point. When the ferret died they raised an alarm. Something recently happened where black flecks were found in some flu vaccines and they had to be pulled. I think there are lots of these types of things happening and most of them we hear nothing about.

If they do try something, I think there are enough people who will be watching like a hawk, and will expose it. A lot of people are just not buying what the Lamestream media are saying any longer.

[RMorgan]

Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

Hey Mutchie,

Man, I think you should check this thread I made some time ago.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45294-Predictions-that-never-happened-

Just check out the first post. You´ll see lots of "end of the world" predictions that never happened, of course.

I´m 99% convinced that no one can predict the future, just like I´m convinced the this 12/21/2012 thing will join the above mentioned thread.

Anyway, we´re close enough. No need the argue about this; Soon we´ll see.

However, I´m 100% sure of one thing. The guru folks will come up with all sorts of excuses; will come up with other dates and, unfortunately, a lot of people will still believe them...

Raf.

[Snookie]

Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

I never heard Cliff High say anything about the date Dec 21 2012. Courtney Brown didn't say anything about not seeing past Dec 21 either. I believe he said that something happens PRIOR to June 1st 2013, as that was the second date the remote viewers looked at. There were 2 different timelines, and one of them was significantly worse than the other based on whether remote viewing was acknowledged and one other criterion I can't remember. He specifically says the experiment has nothing to do with the 2012 hype. You can read up on it more on his site.

http://www.farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html

Swinging from one extreme to the other is not helpful either. Catastrophies HAVE happened, both natural and man made. Happened before, can and I'm sure will happen again!

[Observer1964]

Ac Tah, of the Mayan people, gave a talk in Santa Monica last month. In this exert he speaks about what is happening around December 21st 2012 and it's significance to the world. His heritage is authentic. Check out his website for lots more information and to see the work Ac Tah and a lot of other dedicated people are doing.... www.actah2012.com
U8y0MR8KiY8

[gripreaper]

I have it on some really good intel from "sources" who have channeled some of the benevolent dimensional beings who are hierarchically in positions of power with some of the stellar Galactic Councils, who have indicated via vetted and sincere third dimensional humans, that in fact, when you take into consideration the intents as well as the trajectories of all of the available timelines, and you juxtapose that against the cosmic energetic signature of the incoming frequency waveforms which are now coalescing with the current resonance inherent in 3rd dimensional physical realities, divide that by the golden mean ratio and the Precession of the Equinoxes and align that with the Galactic Core in the binary star system of the Central Sun, and extrapolate through your higher self consciousness the frequency and resonance and the tone and timbre you are receiving from your heart center and your soulstream spiritual empathic etheric nature, you may be able to triangulate the Dec. 21, 2102 information and generate a hypothesis, which is inherently able to contain any obfuscations and adverse anomalies from arising, which may attempt to distract you from the core context of this date, and provide verification relative to the veracity and validity of the hypothetical scenario which is being postulated, as the most probable and highest and best outcome available to the collective consciousness which is permeating the divine matrix, rendering such signals to be transmitted and transmuted in the subjective subconscious, thus imbedding such signals into the ego consciousness and triggering the super conscious mind and that which comes from the core essence of your being and all that is one, for necessary context to awaken and arouse the curiosity of those who would otherwise find this information inhospitable, or non palatable.

It’s about time I say...

[Tenzin]

I regard the Mayan date as the beginning of a new cycle.

One of it goes down this line:
http://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/articles/id/spiritualresearch/spiritualscience/armageddon

Prior to knowing this site, I was already informed by my meditation teacher that the next 6 years will eperience increasingly greater challenges before it settles down into a paradise of a new kind. Probably will take a decade or 2. During this period, there will be more and more 'powerful' people rising to aid all along.

Legitimate warnings will definitely come AFTER that date. Fake ones too.

I guess peace and freedom from fear can only come from within.

The future is not fixed, but the Universe does behave in a certain pattern and cycle.

I believe we are here to experience THAT in our own evolution.

[ghostrider]

lets hope it's the end of the world for the PTB .

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Things are already changing. Observe what is happening with your thoughts, with your interactions with others. What "stuff", long ignored, is now surfacing? Become aware of your patterns of thinking and reacting. What is different? Do you meditate? How has your meditation shifted over the last few months?.... If you haven't noticed by now, it's doubtful 21/12/12 will feel any different.

[DouglasDanger]

Please do not be disapointed when all your visions and thoughts about this date do not materialize, you are still a worth while being, you still have multiple talents that create multiple uses for you, do not accend yourselves unnaturally as this will cause decention. This date will come and go for most as the day before did.. But for you who holds so much faith in the date it may be devastatingly normal which will cause you to loose hope in all your beliefs. So I want to tell you, you are a beautiful being with love and purpose, without your existance there universe could not be the same, this day is just like that before it and that after it...a day in your life as a human.. Please do look up at the galactic event, you will not get a chance to see it in your vessels lifetime again...

[Wind]

All that I know is that it is going to be an interesting date. Will our lifes be changed forever? Possibly, but no one really knows. I'd rather see a big shift in 2012 than a massive solar storm causing chaos in 2013. :)

[modwiz]

All that I know is that it is going to be an interesting date. Will our lifes be changed forever? Possibly, but no one really knows. I'd rather see a big shift in 2012 than a massive solar storm causing chaos in 2013. :)

Unless the Earth changes its' orbit the days will start getting longer 3 days later. I look forward to that. Any other positive developments will be gravy. Any negative developments will be dealt with as they show up.

[johnf]

They say hindsight is twenty twenty, They are often inaccurate though. For some hindsight is a whole lot less than that ,these people insist on hanging onto their ignance till the day they die, and get a certain comfort out of being right.For some people hindsight is 30/20 or better, because they spend time inspecting they ideas they have latched onto in the past, and are up to the uncomfortable process of working through these things and letting those ideas and habits go.
most of us do a little of both, and this period of time seems to be conducive for improving our sight if we are willing to be a little uncomfortable here and there. I think that the 3 days following the 21st are tailor made to see what each of us could be working on next.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U8y0MR8KiY8

I have posted this before, as have others and I post it again because I really think that those days will be conducive to moving ahead, if we work at it.

I repost David Sereda's video which is in a post above because I have seen a similar thing myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6No8HIzXRlA

I have not had as intense of an experience as david, but I have had a vision of standing on the, whatever it is in the center of the galaxy, as well as standing on this planet, and in looking back at that experience I am convinced that I was remembering the fact that each of us can feel both places at once and can help bring this planet into sync with that rythym.
Since that time the memory came up real strongly after seeing contact, and I have also ran into the stories Sereda talks about where scientists have seen the creation of new matter in the center of our galaxy.

Also I have seen some lectures by Terrence Mckenna where he talks about the phenomenon of novelty and how it exists in a waveform that will peak on the famous date.

So I am patiently anticipating seeing things in a new way on the twenty second, hopefully for a while after, and will have pen and paper ready to jot things down, and try to take action on those ideas from that point forward.

If this does not happen, well then I will have an opportunity to have a chuckle at myself, and move on.

I also think this date is one of several others that will occur between that date, and sometime late in this century where we will have choices to make on what kind of a reality we are willing to live in, so when others start writing about dates after 21 2012 I will try not to judge, and be sure to take the ideas with a pillar or two of salt, but remain aware that there might be a long road of changes up ahead that are even bigger than the amazing changes mankind has experienced in the last few hundred years.

[Arrowwind]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/575098_556009764428481_372930561_n.jpg

[Tony]

Just be what you 'are'.











“Everybody is a genius.
But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree,
it will live its whole life believing
that it is stupid.”


Mr. A Einstein.

[golden lady]

Ac Tah, of the Mayan people, gave a talk in Santa Monica last month. In this exert he speaks about what is happening around December 21st 2012 and it's significance to the world. His heritage is authentic. Check out his website for lots more information and to see the work Ac Tah and a lot of other dedicated people are doing.... www.actah2012.com
U8y0MR8KiY8
Excellent vid thanks for sharing, worth a thread on it's own.

[RMorgan]

Yeah...This Ac Tah guy seems great.

Specially when he charges U$130,00 to send you some material teaching "to practice the Maya vibration sound based on your Mayan calendar bithdate.".

Honestly guys, in my opinion, this guy totally looks like another 2012 opportunist. I don´t remember the last time I´ve heard so much nonsense condensed in just one video.

Another thing; "Ac Tah tells us that the Maya were a scientifically advanced and enlightened society.". Personally, I completely disagree with it.

First, the Mayan decline started after a severe drought; They didn´t even have moderately efficient irrigation techniques to keep their crops growing, so their people started to starve to death or immigrate to other places. So, they weren´t scientifically advanced at all. They knew a little about Astronomy but that´s all. They didn´t even have sophisticated boats.

Second, they were brutal; During this drought period, they´ve killed thousands of their own folks to try to bring rain and save their crops; They used to play "soccer" with decapitated heads during their version of the Olympic games. This doesn´t look enlightened to me. Of course, these Mayans "gurus" never talk about that...

In my opinion, we must stop looking to ancient civilizations thinking that they were much better than us; They weren´t. They were humans, just like us.

The glorified Egyptians had slaves; The mystified Mayans used to do human sacrifices to please their gods.

Frankly, our society is more evolved in, as far as I know, every aspect. We have instant communication, highly advanced cropping techniques, satellites, advanced medical treatments and medicines, airplanes, computers, etc..

Of course, our society is messed up, specially politically and economically. However, their societies were quite messed up as well.

Pharaohs were supreme rulers considered Gods themselves; The Mayan leaders also were considered direct representatives of the Gods.

Both Egyptians and Mayans had wars, just like us. They weren´t peaceful enlightened societies as some new agers believe.

I think that if these societies had enough time, they would end up just like us or even worse.

So, I think it´s time stop glorifying ancient extinguished societies and start recognizing the merits of our own society; We have achieved incredible things. Of course, we have a lot of things to fix, but I think we should start working on the "now" and stop worshiping the past.

That´s a big problem...We´re always glorifying the past or speculating about the future, but we rarely think about the present, the now.

Cheers,

Raf.

[araucaria]

Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

Hey Mutchie,

Man, I think you should check this thread I made some time ago.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45294-Predictions-that-never-happened-

Just check out the first post. You´ll see lots of "end of the world" predictions that never happened, of course.

I´m 99% convinced that no one can predict the future, just like I´m convinced the this 12/21/2012 thing will join the above mentioned thread.

Anyway, we´re close enough. No need the argue about this; Soon we´ll see.

However, I´m 100% sure of one thing. The guru folks will come up with all sorts of excuses; will come up with other dates and, unfortunately, a lot of people will still believe them...

Raf.

Hi Raf
That's a nice little shot-in-the-foot post you've got there. If no one can predict the future, how can you be 100% sure of what the guru folks will do? :)

[RMorgan]

Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

Hey Mutchie,

Man, I think you should check this thread I made some time ago.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45294-Predictions-that-never-happened-

Just check out the first post. You´ll see lots of "end of the world" predictions that never happened, of course.

I´m 99% convinced that no one can predict the future, just like I´m convinced the this 12/21/2012 thing will join the above mentioned thread.

Anyway, we´re close enough. No need the argue about this; Soon we´ll see.

However, I´m 100% sure of one thing. The guru folks will come up with all sorts of excuses; will come up with other dates and, unfortunately, a lot of people will still believe them...

Raf.

Hi Raf
That's a nice little shot-in-the-foot post you've got there. If no one can predict the future, how can you be 100% sure of what the guru folks will do? :)

Hahahaha! Well mate, isn´t that what they always do? I mean, postpone things and make new excuses when their predictions don´t happen? :)

It´s just statistics then; a trend!

I would be very surprised if one of these 2012 celebrities said something like:

"I´m sorry; I was terribly wrong. Forgive me if my predictions had negative consequences on your lives. Forgive me if I caused frustration and disappointment.

I´ll now refund all the money you´ve spent buying my books, dvds and lectures. I´m sure you have better use for it.

I´m sorry for all the time you´ve wasted reading my articles and watching my videos as well."

Personally, I´ve never seen one of these folks having enough humility and integrity to admit their mistakes and apologize.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Flash]

All that I know is that it is going to be an interesting date. Will our lifes be changed forever? Possibly, but no one really knows. I'd rather see a big shift in 2012 than a massive solar storm causing chaos in 2013. :)

Unless the Earth changes its' orbit the days will start getting longer 3 days later. I look forward to that. Any other positive developments will be gravy. Any negative developments will be dealt with as they show up.


30 some days to Christmas.

1 chocolat a day for every one of yous

http://mamaneedsmaintenance.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/chocolate_advent_calendar_open.jpg


Oh gosh, now I have the taste for chocolat and there in non in the house, will have to eat my imagination

[donk]

Grip-that may not be the longest sentence ever written, but I'm fairly certain it's the longest one i ever read. Nice post, can you diagram that for me?

[araucaria]

All that I know is that it is going to be an interesting date. Will our lifes be changed forever? Possibly, but no one really knows. I'd rather see a big shift in 2012 than a massive solar storm causing chaos in 2013. :)

Unless the Earth changes its' orbit the days will start getting longer 3 days later. I look forward to that. Any other positive developments will be gravy. Any negative developments will be dealt with as they show up.


30 some days to Christmas.

1 chocolat a day for every one of yous

http://mamaneedsmaintenance.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/chocolate_advent_calendar_open.jpg


Oh gosh, now I have the taste for chocolat and there in non in the house, will have to eat my imagination

Thanks Flash, 24 chocolates, I'm going to run out before D-Day :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤





Lets be Serious here ... Lots of people have been prepping for this date and some of them REALLY BELIEVE that a cataclysm is going to occur and then we have the remote viewers who were claimimg that they couldnt see past that date.. remember the web bot it said 21st dec 2012 was bad news aswell ... if nothing at all happens IM NEVER GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER DOOMSDAY PREDICTION SERIOUSLY ! :p

Hey Mutchie,

Man, I think you should check this thread I made some time ago.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45294-Predictions-that-never-happened-

Just check out the first post. You´ll see lots of "end of the world" predictions that never happened, of course.

I´m 99% convinced that no one can predict the future, just like I´m convinced the this 12/21/2012 thing will join the above mentioned thread.

Anyway, we´re close enough. No need the argue about this; Soon we´ll see.

However, I´m 100% sure of one thing. The guru folks will come up with all sorts of excuses; will come up with other dates and, unfortunately, a lot of people will still believe them...

Raf.

Hi Raf
That's a nice little shot-in-the-foot post you've got there. If no one can predict the future, how can you be 100% sure of what the guru folks will do? :)

Hahahaha! Well mate, isn´t that what they always do? I mean, postpone things and make new excuses when their predictions don´t happen? :)

It´s just statistics then; a trend!

I would be very surprised if one of these 2012 celebrities said something like:

"I´m sorry; I was terribly wrong. Forgive me if my predictions had negative consequences on your lives. Forgive me if I caused frustration and disappointment.

I´ll now refund all the money you´ve spent buying my books, dvds and lectures. I´m sure you have better use for it.

I´m sorry for all the time you´ve wasted reading my articles and watching my videos as well."

Personally, I´ve never seen one of these folks having enough humility and integrity to admit their mistakes and apologize.

Cheers,

Raf.

Right. Predictability means the future = the past. Terence McKenna's idea of Dec 21 was total novelty when the future is completely up for grabs. It may not happen, but that is what is needed :)

[gripreaper]

Grip-that may not be the longest sentence ever written, but I'm fairly certain it's the longest one i ever read. Nice post, can you diagram that for me?

I'd love to, but there are to many words to conjugate, and too many dangling participles, prepositions, predicate nouns, pronouns, transitive verbs, subjective adjectives, objective verbs, contextual sub subjects, and too many options for the conclusions...

But if I could it would look something like this.

http://www.german-latin-english.com/diagram5.gif

[Tony]

I have it on some really good intel from "sources" who have channeled some of the benevolent dimensional beings who are hierarchically in positions of power with some of the stellar Galactic Councils, who have indicated via vetted and sincere third dimensional humans, that in fact, when you take into consideration the intents as well as the trajectories of all of the available timelines, and you juxtapose that against the cosmic energetic signature of the incoming frequency waveforms which are now coalescing with the current resonance inherent in 3rd dimensional physical realities, divide that by the golden mean ratio and the Precession of the Equinoxes and align that with the Galactic Core in the binary star system of the Central Sun, and extrapolate through your higher self consciousness the frequency and resonance and the tone and timbre you are receiving from your heart center and your soulstream spiritual empathic etheric nature, you may be able to triangulate the Dec. 21, 2102 information and generate a hypothesis, which is inherently able to contain any obfuscations and adverse anomalies from arising, which may attempt to distract you from the core context of this date, and provide verification relative to the veracity and validity of the hypothetical scenario which is being postulated, as the most probable and highest and best outcome available to the collective consciousness which is permeating the divine matrix, rendering such signals to be transmitted and transmuted in the subjective subconscious, thus imbedding such signals into the ego consciousness and triggering the super conscious mind and that which comes from the core essence of your being and all that is one, for necessary context to awaken and arouse the curiosity of those who would otherwise find this information inhospitable, or non palatable.

It’s about time I say...




Have you been talking to Carmody again?! ;)

[Carmody]

No .

[RUSirius]

Well, I don't know about everyone here, but I can say with confidence, maybe even over-confidence, that the 21st of December this year, will rapidly be followed by the 22nd, however I cannot prove this.

[Flash]

I have it on some really good intel from "sources" who have channeled some of the benevolent dimensional beings who are hierarchically in positions of power with some of the stellar Galactic Councils, who have indicated via vetted and sincere third dimensional humans, that in fact, when you take into consideration the intents as well as the trajectories of all of the available timelines, and you juxtapose that against the cosmic energetic signature of the incoming frequency waveforms which are now coalescing with the current resonance inherent in 3rd dimensional physical realities, divide that by the golden mean ratio and the Precession of the Equinoxes and align that with the Galactic Core in the binary star system of the Central Sun, and extrapolate through your higher self consciousness the frequency and resonance and the tone and timbre you are receiving from your heart center and your soulstream spiritual empathic etheric nature, you may be able to triangulate the Dec. 21, 2102 information and generate a hypothesis, which is inherently able to contain any obfuscations and adverse anomalies from arising, which may attempt to distract you from the core context of this date, and provide verification relative to the veracity and validity of the hypothetical scenario which is being postulated, as the most probable and highest and best outcome available to the collective consciousness which is permeating the divine matrix, rendering such signals to be transmitted and transmuted in the subjective subconscious, thus imbedding such signals into the ego consciousness and triggering the super conscious mind and that which comes from the core essence of your being and all that is one, for necessary context to awaken and arouse the curiosity of those who would otherwise find this information inhospitable, or non palatable.

It’s about time I say...




Have you been talking to Carmody again?! ;)

A very long phrase indeed. I did not know it possible. Surpassing Carmody :p

[gripreaper]

Oh, I dunno, there’s not that much happening.

Only interstellar dimensional astral beings controlling this planet for eons through their reptilian elite bloodine agents here, who are stealing all of the resources, building underground cities, storing up heirloom seeds and supplies in bunkers, fighting galactic wars, blowing up blobs at the bottom of the sea, and the elite are getting ready to “get out of Dodge” and leave the planet, to their satellite colonies on Mars and the Moon, through their zero gravity craft and their jumprooms, while a massive object is hurling towards us to cause an extinction level event, the poles reversing causing massive earthquakes, tsunami’s, the breaking up of the tectonic plates, disrupting the ecosystem and an Electromagnetic Pulse from the sun knocks us back to the stone age, and the Christians are being raptured, while the rest of us are being invited to go on galactic joyrides on motherships out in space to get away from the impending cataclysm, and those who are left here on earth will get a golden jubilee, the distribution of all of the wealth in the global settlement funds, the St Germaine fund, and of course, Nesara will be implemented while the bad guys that are left get arrested, put on trial and summarily removed from the economic and political scene, by the militia and the military working together as we all ascend into fifth dimensional consciousness “en masse” and awaken to the new earth, fully conscious and aware as unconditionally loving beings.

In the meantime, I’ve got 4000 rounds of ammunition, a bug out bag fully stocked and ready to go, enough fuel stored to go 1000 miles by vehicle, one years worth of long term storage foods, several faraday cages, a submersible submarine, a bunker, and a bevy of survival magazines and books, a tin foil hat, two flashlights and one Bob Dylan CD.

I’m ready, bring it on! ;)

[Carmody]

Apparently no one realizes the sheer dryness of my humour. And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.

[RUSirius]

Oh, I dunno, there’s not that much happening.

Only interstellar dimensional astral beings controlling this planet for eons through their reptilian elite bloodine agents here, who are stealing all of the resources, building underground cities, storing up heirloom seeds and supplies in bunkers, fighting galactic wars, blowing up blobs at the bottom of the sea, and the elite are getting ready to “get out of Dodge” and leave the planet, to their satellite colonies on Mars and the Moon, through their zero gravity craft and their jumprooms, while a massive object is hurling towards us to cause an extinction level event, the poles reversing causing massive earthquakes, tsunami’s, the breaking up of the tectonic plates, disrupting the ecosystem and an Electromagnetic Pulse from the sun knocks us back to the stone age, and the Christians are being raptured, while the rest of us are being invited to go on galactic joyrides on motherships out in space to get away from the impending cataclysm, and those who are left here on earth will get a golden jubilee, the distribution of all of the wealth in the global settlement funds, the St Germaine fund, and of course, Nesara will be implemented while the bad guys that are left get arrested, put on trial and summarily removed from the economic and political scene, by the militia and the military working together as we all ascend into fifth dimensional consciousness “en masse” and awaken to the new earth, fully conscious and aware as unconditionally loving beings.

In the meantime, I’ve got 400 rounds of ammunition, a bug out bag fully stocked and ready to go, enough fuel stored to go 1000 miles by vehicle, one years worth of long term storage foods, several faraday cages, a submersible submarine, a bunker, and a bevy of survival magazines and books, a tin foil hat, two flashlights and one Bob Dylan CD.

I’m ready, bring it on! ;)

No joke, this is some of the best stuff I've ever read. I'm just waiting for a day off, or actually two consecutive days off, that would be better.

[Flash]

Apparently no one realizes the sheer dryness of my humour. And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.

oh ya I realised. I wanted to ask your trick for the below 10 letters. sigh, this is what is it not to be a genious in science, you cannot go through the security stuff. lol

[greybeard]

Apparently no one realizes the sheer dryness of my humour. And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.

I vote Carmody, gripreaper and tony for a double act.

chris

[Black Panther]

Apparently no one realizes the sheer dryness of my humour. And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.

? ?

[Tony]

Don't forget to feel..................... good!


sYi7uEvEEmk

[SilentFeathers]

I'll start being concerned about 12-21-2012 on 12-22-2012.....when I realize I'm still here while many others are ascending without me and I see the face of David Wilcock appearing in the sky as the heavens split open like a scroll....

[seko]

I love everybody's sense of humour on this subject.

19409

[gripreaper]

I dunno, doesn't seem that bad. This scenario is survivable, right? Besides, we've still got 28 days left.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDO5oNFBGQ4

[Lone Bean]

David Wilcock says he's totally convinced we will ascend on or near Dec. 21, 1012. But I have noticed he's still got speaking dates lined up for 2013. Maybe he can still lecture (for a fee) while in his new ascended form, i dunno. But honestly, something needs to happen to bring the human race as a whole, up a notch or two on the spiritual ladder or we can kiss our beloved planet goodbye. It can't take being treated as if it's nothing but a infinite supply of goodies for our capitalistic insanity. We've got to evolve or perish and there just isn't enough time left for each of us to "find our way on our own time" individual spiritual path bs. We've got to do this as a class project, together, at the same time. But to David's credit, he seems to have included a boat load of scientific research on DNA that does give me hope that maybe all that "junk DNA" we're supposed to be toting around inside our cells actually has a purpose and will be turned on by some sort of energy coming directly at us due to our most unusual alignment directly in front of the big hole in the center of the milky way galaxy.

I'm not banking on anything big happening, but I'm not ruling it out either. I'm getting kind of desperate because like I said before, time has basically run out on us. I want it to happen. I doubt it will happen. I get frustrated because I can't find any current scientific information concerning it. I don't want any "channeling" bs. I want verifiable data. I'm sick of these stupid YouTube videos by tards thinking they know something because of a dream or obe or crap. Who really knows anything about this????!

But you know, if this unique alignment only happens once every 24,920 years, then I really doubt 30 more days is going to make any difference. We should already be practically perfectly aligned and the juice should already be flowing in. I mean, our positioning by Dec. 21st will be like the most infinitesimal tweak possible by then from where we are now.

[ThePythonicCow]

And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.
Show off

[ThePythonicCow]

I wanted to ask your trick for the below 10 letters
One letter, 8 spaces, one letter ... would be sufficient.

Everyone else's browser, when finally displaying your 10 character post, will collapse the 8 spaces down to 1 space, making it look like a 3 character (letter, space, letter) post.

[gripreaper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRRCjux1sbg&feature=related

[SilentFeathers]

After NOTHING happens on 12-21-2012, the next big ORDEAL and doomsday date will be in November 2013 as comet ISON threatens to destroy the Earth and sparks ascension (rapture) fever for the lucky ones once again....

[PathWalker]

I thought this might belong here:


Hi
I've really enjoyed reading all of this and helps put pieces together. Do you have any idea how we can best make use of the "lift" on 12/22?

1. Release your fears. The most important advice of all. If you do not release you fears. They control you. Instead you control your path.
2. Reconnect to your human soul powers (Watch some George Kavassilas videos)
3. Recognize and reorient your soul path.


Besides pen and paper what else can we do?

1. Let go you of your fears.
2. Practice mental state of gratitude for living in this time.


How can we throw off this tyranny without violence as they clearly have the upper hand in that area?

1. Internalized that the separation is illusion. They are we, we are they. We flip sides all the time. There is reason for the genetic mix. It is difficult (if not impossible) to find pure blooded human. ET are us everywhere as well.
2. Integrate polarities. Balance bias toward one polarity over the other. Just let go the drama. The polarities are there to teach us. You graduate by integrating them.
3. Practice forgiveness, release you from the polarity bonds.

It seems that the Reptilian genetics are why we are in this mess as they seem to run the planet. It seems they are already hybrids or some such combination placed in high places. I want to be free on all levels-soul, and in this life or any other level that I"m not conscious of.

As said before. Humans are hybrids of more then 32 ET races, including the reptilians. Every each person has a very unique genetic mix. The human genetic if the most valuable commodity in this universe. It is the best integration ever made.
At the graduation time, (which is practically now). We learn to recognize the truth and reality that we are not alone and connect to our true ancestory.
When you release the They/Us thought pattern, you are out of "their" control. You just stop playing the game anymore. That is exactly what will happen when the vale will lift.


I don't have that many "experiences" (a few) that I can remember but I"m never shocked or surprised at anything that I read or hear about in these areas. I just want to put the information together in order to make the best decisions and help in the most effective way. I truly appreciate your help and contributions Simon. How can we best utilize our abilities as humans to change for the highest good? and right NOW!
We all love the drama game, the story and the legends (Don't you like action movies - we are having one just now). If you want to remember who you are and the power you have. Let go of the drama, and be patient. Less then a month to go, practice forgiveness. Then you will get you answers from your soul.

The soul's greatest desire is to serve.

[Bill Ryan]

.

And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.
Show off

!

[eaglespirit]

THERE IS NO DOOMSDAY!

ok, got that off my chest once and for All here and now!

We are simply 'one loving family' here at Avalon helping daily-higher-conscious-selfless-loving-adjustments take hold right in front of Us with the best of Our Own active efforts...help one another(everywhere) now more than ever in this month ahead and continue to upgrade that help with the upgrades that will breeze by Us...and a strong breeze it will be...set Your sails for full use in Your Own Heart-filled Ocean of Higher Possibilities!
Love! Love! Love!

[donk]

After NOTHING happens on 12-21-2012, the next big ORDEAL and doomsday date will be in November 2013 as comet ISON threatens to destroy the Earth and sparks ascension (rapture) fever for the lucky ones once again....

I thought there were some folks talking about March 2013? I don't think we can go 3 whole months without an end of the world date--there seems to be certain types of people that seem to need one to get through the day.

Ya know, Wilcock talk has me remembering him pointing out the Mayan calendar being on the statue mural thingies on the inside of the Capital Building of Washington, definitely an odd scene to just "randomly" choose to portray USA history. That always stuck out as red flag that someone thinks (or wants others to think) the calendar is important...off to do some research on when all that was created...

Great post pathwalker...if only we all could just let go of the drama and be patient. I'm getting impatient with the people in my life not even being aware of the drama they create :p

[Limor Wolf]

.

And that I did it at under the 10 letter response limit.
Show off

!

Admins and computer people please stop patronize us common people ;)

Now, can you do that with no characters at all?

[gripreaper]

This is very well done and has validity.

2012 Mayan Prophecy Solar Flare Long Count Alignment

An evaluation of the 2012 alignment / conjunction patterns evident upon the 21 December 2012 which co-incide with the completion of the Mayan Long Count Calendar ending the current Great Cycle of 13 Baktuns. Is the celestial pattern one that might trigger a solar flare / Coronal Mass Ejection event as would knock out the global energy grid? A comparison of the 1859 Carrington Event is also made along with the 2003 X28 Great Flare. Evidence is put forward to show that there is support for the idea that planetary conjunctions do trigger extreme solar activity.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzwQ4-sPjIs&feature=youtu.be

[Wind]

Soon we will find out, won't we?

rpl02BM0HAk

[gripreaper]

This is very well done and has validity.

2012 Mayan Prophecy Solar Flare Long Count Alignment

An evaluation of the 2012 alignment / conjunction patterns evident upon the 21 December 2012 which co-incide with the completion of the Mayan Long Count Calendar ending the current Great Cycle of 13 Baktuns. Is the celestial pattern one that might trigger a solar flare / Coronal Mass Ejection event as would knock out the global energy grid? A comparison of the 1859 Carrington Event is also made along with the 2003 X28 Great Flare. Evidence is put forward to show that there is support for the idea that planetary conjunctions do trigger extreme solar activity.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzwQ4-sPjIs&feature=youtu.be

Holy Schniekies! I had no idea a solar flare could take out this many satellites.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ydbbd-4oEds

[ThePythonicCow]

Holy Schniekies! I had no idea a solar flare could take out this many satellites.
It's grown :).

When I was tracking satellites at a U S Air Force ground station in Thailand in the early 1970's, we would track every satellite that came in view. I don't recall specific numbers now, but it was perhaps one satellite every few minutes on average. We had one big radar dish that could only track one target at a time, not a fancy phased array that could track multiple targets at once. There was almost always at least a brief break between each track, and I don't recall ever having "too many" potential tracks to fit them all in easily. The typical track was perhaps 30 seconds, to update the orbital tracking data.

[WhiteFeather]

The 23rd of December 2012 seems to be more significant than the 21st.

[Shiva]

I've stood in Mayan ruins when I was younger... and the timelessness of the place struck me.
I believe in the cyclical nature of the Mayan calendar- I don't believe that anything on the physical plane of existance will change at all.
But there will be some after-effects from that day, even if they're created from our own misinterpertations of what the Mayans were talking about.

[MalteseKnight]

Question for Whitefeather and others....we will probably be present on the Giza plateau from the afternoon 20th December to the morning of the 25th....we do not expect anything really dramatic to happen...with the possible exception of a minor Carrington Event a few days beyond this time frame.

My Question is lets's assume that the broad thrust of Bruce Cathy's work is basically correct, and that the Great Pyramid of Giza acts like a giant but imperfect capacitor, would you expect a light discharge to emanate from the apex on the 21st to 23rd December, albeit for a few microseconds? ...am thinking of putting together a small camera crew to film the apex at the transition point...if so at what time exactly would you point the camera?

Hope that this query captures somebody's imagination? Does anyone wish to step up to the plate?


MalteseKnight

[Wind]

The 23rd of December 2012 seems to be more significant than the 21st.

At least according to Pane Andov. ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Think its the start of a new calender and life will unfold as it does.
Im positive about the possibility of an on going raising of consciousness.

Chris

Fox is cutting off the koolaid on the 21st...

imagine McCain and Trump waking up wondering what happened the last few years...

[gripreaper]

After NOTHING happens on 12-21-2012, the next big ORDEAL and doomsday date will be in November 2013 as comet ISON threatens to destroy the Earth and sparks ascension (rapture) fever for the lucky ones once again....

Aw come on SilentFeathers, you don't want to evolve into 5th dimensional consciousness, and get your share of the global settlements? I hear it's in the millions! Think of all the stuff you could buy after there is no more slavery and everyone is awake and aware!

[BrianEn]

Less than a month to go. For me it's like being a kid at christmas eying up the bog box wondering what the heck is in there. Is it new mini[bike or a box full of knitted clothes?

[ThePythonicCow]

Now, can you do that with no characters at all?
I had to look closely to figure out how Bill did that :).

He put a small (SIZE 1) white period ('.') before the QUOTE'd material, and some spaces and an explanation point ('!') after the QUOTE'd material.

[DeDukshyn]

Now, can you do that with no characters at all?
I had to look closely to figure out how Bill did that :).

He put a small (SIZE 1) white period ('.') before the QUOTE'd material, and some spaces and an explanation point ('!') after the QUOTE'd material.

I'm pretty sure I bypassed this once here by using 10 "ALT 255"'s but somehow it seems to not work now .... ;) But You other guys were pretty clever .. never thought of that ;)

[araucaria]

For you minimalist artists, try Malevich’s White on White while listening to John Cage’s 4’33” :)

19429

hUJagb7hL0E

[Carmody]

Here's a good astrological look at things, as in looking at 2012.

http://www.astroprofile.com/2012sky.htm

We are near the end of a mercury retrograde pattern, which is 3 weeks long, once every 88 days. That is tomorrow, relatively speaking, nov 26th. Tomorrow will have a nice foggy feel to it, mentally speaking, and turning into a mental clearing (as a form of action).

Then the second eclipse in the series, on Nov 28th.

Mercury Direct (first time is EST time zone, second is PST time zone, remove 5 hours from EST to arrive at the Greenwich Meridian time zone)
(Rx since Nov 6, 2012) November 26 18:11 Scorpio 5:48 pm 2:48 pm

Venus conjunct Saturn November 26 Both in Scorpio 8:19 pm 5:19 pm

Mars conjunct Pluto November 27 Both in Capricorn 3:17 pm 12:17 pm

Penumbral Lunar Eclipse
Full Moon November 28 06:40 Gemini
Subtle shifts in opposing views 9:33 am 6:33 am

tom's reports are pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYkeWxy8n4w

it would take quite some time to explain the reality behind astrology. Suffice it to say that is the mother of all sciences and regimented (scholarly) human endeavor. I say this so that you might decide to listen to what tom is saying. (listen, meaning simply listen.... not the American English overtone of 'pay attention and commit to what they say')

[Dennis Leahy]

Oh, I dunno, there’s not that much happening.

Only interstellar dimensional astral beings controlling this planet for eons through their reptilian elite bloodine agents here, who are stealing all of the resources, building underground cities, storing up heirloom seeds and supplies in bunkers, fighting galactic wars, blowing up blobs at the bottom of the sea, and the elite are getting ready to “get out of Dodge” and leave the planet, to their satellite colonies on Mars and the Moon, through their zero gravity craft and their jumprooms, while a massive object is hurling towards us to cause an extinction level event, the poles reversing causing massive earthquakes, tsunami’s, the breaking up of the tectonic plates, disrupting the ecosystem and an Electromagnetic Pulse from the sun knocks us back to the stone age, and the Christians are being raptured, while the rest of us are being invited to go on galactic joyrides on motherships out in space to get away from the impending cataclysm, and those who are left here on earth will get a golden jubilee, the distribution of all of the wealth in the global settlement funds, the St Germaine fund, and of course, Nesara will be implemented while the bad guys that are left get arrested, put on trial and summarily removed from the economic and political scene, by the militia and the military working together as we all ascend into fifth dimensional consciousness “en masse” and awaken to the new earth, fully conscious and aware as unconditionally loving beings.

In the meantime, I’ve got 4000 rounds of ammunition, a bug out bag fully stocked and ready to go, enough fuel stored to go 1000 miles by vehicle, one years worth of long term storage foods, several faraday cages, a submersible submarine, a bunker, and a bevy of survival magazines and books, a tin foil hat, two flashlights and one Bob Dylan CD.

I’m ready, bring it on! ;)

It appears to be impossible to get this onto a T-shirt - at the correct size - from the major online custom T-shirt houses. :(

19435

Dennis

[Billy]

Oh, I dunno, there’s not that much happening.

a tin foil hat, two flashlights and one Bob Dylan CD.

I’m ready, bring it on! ;)

My choice is Leonard Cohen. I have my bell to ring. I see the crack where the light shall shine through.

W-vSfwIJkjY






The birds they sang
at the break of day
Start again
I heard them say
Don't dwell on what
has passed away
or what is yet to be.
Ah the wars they will
be fought again
The holy dove
She will be caught again
bought and sold
and bought again
the dove is never free.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

We asked for signs
the signs were sent:
the birth betrayed
the marriage spent
Yeah the widowhood
of every government --
signs for all to see.

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

Ring the bells that still can ring ...

You can add up the parts
but you won't have the sum
You can strike up the march,
there is no drum
Every heart, every heart
to love will come
but like a refugee.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in.

Peace.

P.S if you have not listened to this concert, I highly recommend it.

[greybeard]

Hi Billyji
You will obviously know this one----Everybody knows.
In a way it is relevant to the thread.

Anyway the London concert which can be found in u tube is full of great moments.
The band is exceptional too.
Chris.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfS8LyeUyM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUfS8LyeUyM

[Billy]

Yes greybeard. I have the DVD and listen to Leonards words of wisdom often. Twice in the last few days :thumb:

[greybeard]

Graham Hancock interviewed for New Dawn magazine | Revisiting 2012

A balanced view of 21/12/12.
The beginning of a new age--- not an instant change, but progressive--- major none the less.

Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8flurTqFJgY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8flurTqFJgY




Published on 13 Sep 2012 by GrahamHancockDotCom

See: http://www.grahamhancock.com/tours/lectures.php for details on Graham's upcoming speaking events in the US, Australia and the UK during October, November and December 2012.

Please note the addition below.
I attempted to download but this failed about 30 minutes into it so I am listening directly on u tube. Sometimes I have to move the play on as it stalls.
Well worth the trouble.
Chris
---------
As the Mayan Calendar comes to an end (most interpretations of the Mayan Long Count place this epic event on or near 21 December 2012), and over 17 years after he first published his seminal book on the subject, Fingerprints of the Gods: The Evidence of Earth's Lost Civilization, Graham Hancock speaks out about the state of our planet, consciousness, time travel, and what he has learned on his remarkable journey through life.

In this provocative and often poignant interview, Graham speaks passionately and at length on these, and many other emotionally charged subjects, such as Atlantis, the significance of Göbekli Tepe, and his own experience with marijuana, ayahuasca, and DMT.

The interview is by Andrew Gough, who met with Graham in July 2012 in Graham's home in the English West Country. A condensed version of the interview can be found in the September 2012 edition of New Dawn Magazine [http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/], and an extended version will be featured in The Heretic Magazine [http://thehereticmagazine.com/] (a new history and mystery magazine for which Andrew is Editor) on 1 November 2012, and still another version will be featured on Andrew's 'Arcadia' [http://www.andrewgough.com/] website soon after that.

Please note that the interview was originally conducted for New Dawn Magazine and was only recorded for purposes of converting Graham's audio commentary into text. We apologise any loss of sound quality and hope that you nevertheless enjoy the interview.
Category:

People & Blogs
Licence:

Standard YouTube Licence

[Prodigal Son]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/69395_421929034540263_168724399_n.jpg
Actually, this is a very good idea. A solar flare of the magnitude that is being suggested by many would have a devastating impact on the electrical grid, especially here in the States where it is old, antiquated, and most of it still above ground. As we saw with Sandy, the utility companies are not prepared for this. Repairing downed wires is one thing.... rebuilding a fried system is another, and I shutter to think about the cold long winter ahead for the Northern Hemisphere with no electricity. December 21st is not good timing and I find it interesting that the great tribulation prophecy at Matthew 24 specifically states that we should pray our flight does not occur in winter.....

On the positive side, if this does happen, I can envision the release of free energy technology that would enable us to get rid of the grid altogether.... and while we are doing that we can turn our streets and highways into pedestrian garden walkways while we fly around in AG vehicles just like the Jetsons....

[noxon medem]

..
-

Local "time"
it is now 30 days
to 26th of december .

- I hope its a nice one .
( day or night, and all between )

19441

Ingenuity and imagination , and so much more .
- Humanity .
Fantasy worked into in solid reality ,
- for and by US all .
( Involved with eachother )

Enjoy &
Be well .

..
-

[Carmody]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/69395_421929034540263_168724399_n.jpg
Actually, this is a very good idea. A solar flare of the magnitude that is being suggested by many would have a devastating impact on the electrical grid, especially here in the States where it is old, antiquated, and most of it still above ground. As we saw with Sandy, the utility companies are not prepared for this. Repairing downed wires is one thing.... rebuilding a fried system is another, and I shutter to think about the cold long winter ahead for the Northern Hemisphere with no electricity. December 21st is not good timing and I find it interesting that the great tribulation prophecy at Matthew 24 specifically states that we should pray our flight does not occur in winter.....

On the positive side, if this does happen, I can envision the release of free energy technology that would enable us to get rid of the grid altogether.... and while we are doing that we can turn our streets and highways into pedestrian garden walkways while we fly around in AG vehicles just like the Jetsons....

Most over unity devices have what we would come to see as severe integration issues, regarding integration with the fundamental aspects of all nearby and adjacent matter and time/space.

Thus, most of them are dangerous to experiment with or to make and use. Besides the aspect of how they can easily be misused.

Before we can get there, a massive overhaul of human value and methods of primary thought and being will have to take place.

I'm sad to say, that after much contemplation of the subject, at over 3 decades worth of investigating and pondering...this appears to be the truth of it.

An over-unity device, that can power your house, for example, one that is improperly implemented...could change the weather all around you and possibly even cause earthquakes.

Just one device.

And there isn't one device, there are thousands of such devices that could be implemented all using the same basic science, which is a conceptual aspect..that is easy to understand.

Now, imagine all those immature people out there, right now, with such capacity -- in hand.

This is the problem we are stepping into, right now, in our development.

The entire scenario I'm speaking of, is trying to be born.

In ego, we would head for paranoia and attacking/limiting others, with regard to access to such things.

The only clear way past, for all...is to dump ego, individually.

Thus, as they say... 'the horns of the dilemma' can possibly be seen now, by more and more people....

Becoming aware of the issue, is the first step into clarity.

Which is why I like to post this, which is like a form of ego clearing that we are all collectively going though, moving into at various individual levels and speeds...the gauntlet we will have to pass through, in order to get this done. The ultimate confrontation of and with the self.

Can you feel it?

G_Z3lmidmrY

[araucaria]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/69395_421929034540263_168724399_n.jpg
Actually, this is a very good idea. A solar flare of the magnitude that is being suggested by many would have a devastating impact on the electrical grid, especially here in the States where it is old, antiquated, and most of it still above ground. As we saw with Sandy, the utility companies are not prepared for this. Repairing downed wires is one thing.... rebuilding a fried system is another, and I shutter to think about the cold long winter ahead for the Northern Hemisphere with no electricity. December 21st is not good timing and I find it interesting that the great tribulation prophecy at Matthew 24 specifically states that we should pray our flight does not occur in winter.....

On the positive side, if this does happen, I can envision the release of free energy technology that would enable us to get rid of the grid altogether.... and while we are doing that we can turn our streets and highways into pedestrian garden walkways while we fly around in AG vehicles just like the Jetsons....

Most over unity devices have what we would come to see as severe integration issues, regarding integration with the fundamental aspects of all nearby and adjacent matter and time/space.

Thus, most of them are dangerous to experiment with or to make and use. Besides the aspect of how they can easily be misused.

Before we can get there, a massive overhaul of human value and methods of primary thought and being will have to take place.

I'm sad to say, that after much contemplation of the subject, at over 3 decades worth of investigating and pondering...this appears to be the truth of it.

An over-unity device, that can power your house, for example, one that is improperly implemented...could change the weather all around you and possibly even cause earthquakes.

Just one device.

And there isn't one device, there are thousands of such devices that could be implemented all using the same basic science, which is a conceptual aspect..that is easy to understand.

Now, imagine all those immature people out there, right now, with such capacity -- in hand.

This is the problem we are stepping into, right now, in our development.

The entire scenario I'm speaking of, is trying to be born.

In ego, we would head for paranoia and attacking/limiting others, with regard to access to such things.

The only clear way past, for all...is to dump ego, individually.

Thus, as they say... 'the horns of the dilemma' can possibly be seen now, by more and more people....

Becoming aware of the issue, is the first step into clarity.

Which is why I like to post this, which is like a form of ego clearing that we are all collectively going though, moving into at various individual levels and speeds...the gauntlet we will have to pass through, in order to get this done. The ultimate confrontation of and with the self.

Can you feel it?

G_Z3lmidmrY

Yes, this is the grieving process. But what comes next?

Take the chicken in the egg. It has eaten up all its resources and grown almost too big for its space. It attains resignation when no further movement is physically possible. But one last shake of the head and it discovers a tool to get out of the situation: a hard pointed beak that breaks open the eggshell.

Free energy is not an option inside the shell, but once the shell is broken, it’s a whole new ball game.

[Carmody]

Yes. But before that shell is broken, the full and complete confrontation in and of the self.

No sidestepping the issue. No sliding, no hiding, no not being at school or at work that day.

The universe has you sitting on yourself, with the gun pressed into your forehead, by you.

That is your only option, and path.

Then people can have what they seem to think they want.

The odd person will have an easy way out, an easy bit of work, but most will have a difficult confrontation with self and the confusion of ego/body identification. For it is difficult to separate when the entire experience of incarnation is handled and filtered via the body, as a tactile and bidirectional window.

The long dark night has to take place before the given sunrise and the new day. The sooner one begins, the sooner the sunrise can come for them. The standard 'turn and face the change' aspect of growth - collectively, individually.

[apokalypse]

from not until then we hear alot hopes and many information so i disregard it all about 21-12-12 or 2013, i still listen to them talking but i don't take seriously but thanks them for inform...at most only wish for is something that kick the sheep in the ass so they can have an awakening call seeing the reality for themself. if it comes then comes and Just do what you have to do.

[BrianEn]

21 days to go and then we'll know what really happens. I'm planning to grill meat that day for dinner and listen to coast to coast that night. That is if the power is still on.:clock:Not that I think this is cuko but there's no alarm clock.

[BrianEn]

Less than 20 days to go. Getting closer.

Warning: stupid video warning with a single cuss word-

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/movie-en-9c0a954dda637e7c16348bfab239c138.html


http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/BrianEn66/821_418785578193167_1213042063_n.jpg

[soleil]

hahahaha so....who's gonna be in the chat room on dec 22nd?

[BrianEn]

I`ll stop in if I can.

[BrianEn]

Seventeen days to go.

[BrianEn]

16 days now.

[greybeard]

16 days now.
And then and then!!! What?

I think It would be over optimistic to expect an upward turn of events on that date but hopefully we may have turned a corner.
As far as I can see the Mayans are enthusiastic about a raising of consciousness----may that be so.

Chris

[niki]

what if the whole '2012' things are not *real* and just a mere wishful-thinking?
what if that's the case? are you all ready?

indeed I do also wish that at least *something* would happen, especially on/around the often 'prophesied/predicted' date of December 21 2012.

but, what if these whole "2012" things are just clever & creative man's made-up hoax/scams/theories,
and/or not real and just our mere wishful-thinking/fantasy/escapism from everyday's harsh/mundane reality/real-life?

in fact, if NOTHING happens on or around that date, and the mundane "life/business goes as usual" with all humanity/society, that's what I'm afraid the most!

-regards from truth-seeker from Indonesia-
-Niki-

[Black Panther]

what if the whole '2012' things are not *real* and just a mere wishful-thinking?
what if that's the case? are you all ready?

indeed I do also wish that at least *something* would happen, especially on/around the often 'prophesied/predicted' date of December 21 2012.

but, what if these whole "2012" things are just clever & creative man's made-up hoax/scams/theories,
and/or not real and just our mere wishful-thinking/fantasy/escapism from everyday's harsh/mundane reality/real-life?

in fact, if NOTHING happens on or around that date, and the mundane "life/business goes as usual" with all humanity/society, that's what I'm afraid the most!

-regards from truth-seeker from Indonesia-
-Niki-

Of course there are a lot of things NOT true:
http://www.2012hoax.org/

Mundane life / business will go on, but for some time both worlds
(the world most people believe in and the world we see) have existed together.
People who are still deeply sleeping won't get it because of 21-12-2012.

But awareness is rising for some time and will go on. It is a gradual process.
Nobody has to tell us, but we can all sense, it especially this year.

Still believe 21-12-2012 is an important date because of the alignment and only because
the date is planted in all our heads. Because we can co-create this world together our
thoughts and feelings about this date will be important.

It will be difficult for people who will keep their eyes closed and who are still depending
on governments etc. to save them. 2013 won't be an easy one for them. We have to center
and ground ourselves and keep developing ourselves and be the wise old owl in the tree.
Because the problems won't be solved instantly. It will take longer than a day to fix the
mess we're in.

We have to rise from the ashes and we have to look beyond the current state of the Matrix.

19540

19541

[BrianEn]

16 days now.
And then and then!!! What?

I think It would be over optimistic to expect an upward turn of events on that date but hopefully we may have turned a corner.
As far as I can see the Mayans are enthusiastic about a raising of consciousness----may that be so.



Chris


I honestly don't know what will happen. Been waiting for this day for a long long time and am simply counting down.

[BrianEn]

what if the whole '2012' things are not *real* and just a mere wishful-thinking?
what if that's the case? are you all ready?

indeed I do also wish that at least *something* would happen, especially on/around the often 'prophesied/predicted' date of December 21 2012.

but, what if these whole "2012" things are just clever & creative man's made-up hoax/scams/theories,
and/or not real and just our mere wishful-thinking/fantasy/escapism from everyday's harsh/mundane reality/real-life?

in fact, if NOTHING happens on or around that date, and the mundane "life/business goes as usual" with all humanity/society, that's what I'm afraid the most!

-regards from truth-seeker from Indonesia-
-Niki-


If anything the planet's energy will be up with all the peoples' energies. I think that there will be groups out there trying to harness that energy. Being on the winter solstace will only increase that energy. Perhaps a good day to practiced a spiritual endeavor.

[greybeard]

16 days now.
And then and then!!! What?

I think It would be over optimistic to expect an upward turn of events on that date but hopefully we may have turned a corner.
As far as I can see the Mayans are enthusiastic about a raising of consciousness----may that be so.



Chris


I honestly don't know what will happen. Been waiting for this day for a long long time and am simply counting down.

Believe you me Brian I am in exactly the same place as you.

Regards Chris

[BrianEn]

I'm planning grilled chicken with homefries for dinner that night.

[ArtyCarl]

It will be a day much like any other. If there is a small earthquake somewhere then you can bet that someone somewhere will be thinking 'this could be the start' but lets face it, when was the last time any serious prediction came true. I actually think the populace enjoys these tales of doom and impending gloom. Gives them something to think about while switching channels.

[skamandar]

The only thing I hope is - Life will not keep on as it does right now. I am fed up. And if the only option is for the day after 21.12.2012 to be the same day as the day before... well I don't want that.
I also feel big change is happening right now - I cannot provide scientific proof.

[Sidney]

I hate to say this, but I have the feeling there maybe many reported suicides after the 22nd. If nothing happens, which is the most probable outcome (anything visible to the eye anyway) I think many people are going to be sorely disappointed.

[noxon medem]

..
-

It is now ( local time ..).
about 30 days till the
3rd of january, 2013 .

Be Well .

..
-

[Carmody]

What did Williams say? oh yes. "When it comes, I won't even notice. I'll be too busy Looking Good." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5KcotFqAg0)

[Youniverse]

Yeah I feel that for those that believe with an expectancy and certainty that that date will be like any other and business as usual afterwards will continue to "get what they wished for." And for those that feel the same way, but with much different expectations(like a quantum leap of consciousness to a higher level) will get that too. So for some it may be as if nothing has changed and for others they will rapidly see a "veil lifted," thus exposing many deeper truths and inner workings of the self, leading them to an experience of "heaven on Earth." Yes many modern folks have loaded this date up with energy and expectation, but was Y2K prophesied by the Mayans, Hopi, and a whole bunch of other spiritual traditions? So it hasn't been just us now making this stuff up, it was put there for a reason. At any rate, it ultimately doesn't matter what any date or prophecy is fixed in peoples' minds. It is our belief in them and the power they hold that matters. And many people are believing in something spiritually transforming NOW, so I would lay my bets on the transformative power of that alone, regardless of what else may be at work here.

[Mandala]

Youniverse, that would make me ecstatic if that happened. That would be more than what I could expect. Co-creating and directing our life would make all the study and hoping worth if.

[greybeard]

The British Government are on top of it we are safe.
That's tongue in cheek in case anybody does not get my Scottish sense of humour.
Seriously Im sure that an uplifting of consciousness is happening and may even get an acceleration around this time.

Chris


Apocalypse: Advice Issued For End Of The World

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/apocalypse-advice-issued-end-world-154551931.html

[apokalypse]

wooohooo...doomsday is coming which means we coming home. can't wait for doomsday.:heh:

[BrianEn]

I stopped posting in here coz it was slowing down time for me. Making me anxious to get there was make making me wait.

[Youniverse]

I've stood in Mayan ruins when I was younger... and the timelessness of the place struck me.
I believe in the cyclical nature of the Mayan calendar- I don't believe that anything on the physical plane of existance will change at all.
But there will be some after-effects from that day, even if they're created from our own misinterpertations of what the Mayans were talking about.

Good point, but when we look at the laws of creation, what do we see? Thought, word, action, becoming progressively more impacting the physical plane as thought which is energy becomes word and word, which is energy magnified and focused, becomes action, the physical expression of the word. Also, as enough LIKE energy in the form of ideas, words, or action, clumps together we get the literal physical manifestation in this dimension. So yes, perhaps we don't perceive any drastic changes at first but keep looking!