I am so tired of the guilt trips

[shadowstalker]

This stuff is all over the net...
Now unless they where drafted????

I really can't say whats really on my mind about it.
I no darn right well i will bedanged for it.
But i really am tired of ppl forcing a guilt trip...
This has been going on since summer time, on nearly all the social networks I go to.
Like every other post is another guilt trip.

I know I prolly stepped on some toes, but that is not my true intention.
Any body who knows me knows this..

It is no better the TV, (to which i dont watch anymore) and having the news propagandizing what ever it gets it's hands on.

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[Sidney]

Well, SS- You didn't step on my toes. I am right there with you sister. Luxury is.. spending your valuable time EXACTLY as you wish.

PEACE

[Mike]

it's not unreasonable at all ShadowStalker. i hear ya.

i am a little confused as to the msg of the advert though. is that an unlikely soldier or a p.o.w.? (or a civilian caught up in the mess?)

[Abhaya]

Amen! I can't even look at those ads most of the time

[Mike]

i'll admit, there was a period of time where (even now, occasionally) if i heard the word 'hero' one more time i was gonna haul off and blast somebody.

america overcompensates, so there was phony humility abound post 9-11 -- example: if you'd saved 2 babies from a car wreck whilst sacrificing your arms and legs in the process, it was almost requisite to say something ridiculous like this: "i only did what anybody would have done. now our soldiers overseas, they are the true hero's..." and everybody listening would stand there and solemnly nod like a bunch of idiots.

i believe i have perspective. most of us have fought battles, maybe not on the battlefield, but battles nonetheless. i don't need our government exploiting our soldiers to make me feel grateful...i already *do* feel greatful. now i have great admiration for our troops, and i'm not picking on them here - they're not running these silly-ass ads. fact is, it's the manipulaters that perpetuate this propaganda that need a shift in reality.

[ghostrider]

they choose to fight, and for what ? their place in the unemployment line. last time i checked their is no draft.

[Sidney]

I do feel empathy for those who have lost a loved one (or many) in a war (or wars). But We don't need the posters IMO, such as the one above. I believe it is just another brainwashing campaign, an extension of the television,radio, magazines,etc. More media, to control our thoughts, or tell us how to feel, or not feel, regardless of the message.

[modwiz]

My ex-father-in-law called me rude for bringing books to read at holidays. I called it making lemonade from lemons. Hours of jaws moving and nothing said.

The magic of books. :biggrin::clap2::love::cheer2::whoo:

[shadowstalker]

@ starchild111
You read my mind, in IMHO they are trying to make war kewl, it so reminds me of 1984
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery

NO THANKS
What bothers me more is that I know most of these ppl and they are close to me and they are the same ones that have yet to read the Patriot Act. Agenda 21, look up the North American Union and so on.

Even more messed up is the soldiers who don't support the wars and not being listened to by those same ppl. And they are being called traitors for speaking the truth.

[Mike]

My ex-father-in-law called me rude for bringing books to read at holidays. I called it making lemonade from lemons. Hours of jaws moving and nothing said.

The magic of books. :biggrin::clap2::love::cheer2::whoo:

i managed to weasel my way outta doing the family thing tmrrw. don't ask me how. all i'll say is that it involved a lot of lies;)

i get no joy out of being deceptive, but i just need one damn day to myself or i'm gonna burst.

i will be reading all day tmrrw too: Howard Hughes: Hell's Angel. seems oddly appropo.

[MargueriteBee]

Me too Shadow, it is mind control stuff that's all.

[Jules]

I do feel empathy for those who have lost a loved one (or many) in a war (or wars). But We don't need the posters IMO, such as the one above. I believe it is just another brainwashing campaign, an extension of the television,radio, magazines,etc. More media, to control our thoughts, or tell us how to feel, or not feel, regardless of the message.

That reminds me of the time my mom died in a car accident. My sisters and I were okay, but my mom was in critical condition. A "kindly" nurse took us into her home until family members showed up to claim us. The nurse made it a point to show her daughter how lucky she was that she had her mother, and made us an example. I am not an advocate of making less fortunate examples, needless to say. I remember a lot, and I know the nurse thought she was doing the right thing, but not on my behalf or really anyone else's.

[modwiz]

My ex-father-in-law called me rude for bringing books to read at holidays. I called it making lemonade from lemons. Hours of jaws moving and nothing said.

The magic of books. :biggrin::clap2::love::cheer2::whoo:

i managed to weasel my way outta doing the family thing tmrrw. don't ask me how. all i'll say is that it involved a lot of lies;)

i get no joy out of being deceptive, but i just need one damn day to myself or i'm gonna burst.

i will be reading all day tmrrw too: Howard Hughes: Hell's Angel. seems oddly appropo.

I was talking almost 20 years ago. Ex is fat and the father in law is buried. I'm Wintering in a nice bedroom of my own in the eagles nest. Put a 9 in there and you are getting warm. I have no plans except to be an unobtrusive house guest. I still have 5 months to go. :peep:
I don't partake of regular holidays. They're so not Middle-Earth, LOL.

Enjoy a peaceful day, Mike.

[Mike]

5 months with the Eagle? sounds like an interesting thread title. would draw quite the crowd, i think;)

have a good one yourself, my friend.

[Flash]

My ex-father-in-law called me rude for bringing books to read at holidays. I called it making lemonade from lemons. Hours of jaws moving and nothing said.

The magic of books. :biggrin::clap2::love::cheer2::whoo:

I was doing the same with inlaws. Never even stop to think if they liked it or not. You made me just realise, now today, that they probably did not appreciate. Oups.... I did prefer to play with children sometimes.

[westhill]

When did spending time with your family become a "luxury"?

[modwiz]

When did spending time with your family become a "luxury"?

When the population accepted being slaves.

[Sidney]

When did spending time with your family become a "luxury"?

i had to laugh outloud because it was my exact thought. i am fulfilling my "luxurious" obligation today only because i plan to spend christmas doing as I wish. that said...when my daughter is grown i would not want her to spend time with me out of obligation but out of love. and i will love her unconditionally regardless of how she spends her holidays and with who.