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Bill Ryan
26th November 2012, 20:26
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A fascinating article in WIRED (too long to copy here):

http://wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/ff-the-manuscript/all

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2012/11/ff-the-manuscript-large-660x446.jpg

DeDukshyn
26th November 2012, 20:28
This looks a great read ... thanks Bill!

RMorgan
26th November 2012, 20:39
Hey Bill,

Any possible link to the whole translated text?

I´ve read the article, now I´m pretty curious about it.

Raf.

Cidersomerset
26th November 2012, 20:40
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http://www.realscience.us/2011/11/02/old-secret-society-code-cracked/

Mark
26th November 2012, 21:10
Nice that this is out in Wired. That's relatively mainstream. Considering that most of the ignorance of the mainstream has to do with the existence of Secret Societies and their impact upon the world, articles like this can do a lot to make people aware that there is in-fact real documentation of their existence. Because they were generally well-educated Bourgeoisie or Aristocratic, their impact on the societies of their day and today is really a fait accompli.

A proven factual basis. Once presented with this kind of evidence cognitive dissonance must result and, for those who make the choice, moving forward in knowledge of truth can be the only result. For those who choose continued, willful ignorance despite the existence of proof positive, well, they can't say they didn't know.

If any of y'all are still trying to educate people out there and wake them up this would be a good article to forward the cause.

Jean-Luc
26th November 2012, 21:19
Lovely.

Here is a 14 pages PDF version to read on your tablet :)

http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/They_Cracked_This_250-Year-Old_Code_and_Found_a_Secret_Society_Inside_Nov-2012.pdf

lightseeker
26th November 2012, 21:20
Thanks Bill, the article was a great read. Given that the text can be used as letters and numbers (similar to the cabal), it appears it may take much longer to translate the full text and its meaning. My guess is that the text may have codes within codes of the text itself.

Tane Mahuta
26th November 2012, 23:46
Lovely.

Here is a 14 pages PDF version to read on your tablet :)

http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/They_Cracked_This_250-Year-Old_Code_and_Found_a_Secret_Society_Inside_Nov-2012.pdf

Thanks Jean-Luc...

Looks like a good read

TM

Dennis Leahy
27th November 2012, 02:26
What a cool article and a testament to the persistence and brilliance of the codebreaker. I agree with Rahkyt that this is indeed just the type of thing to create at least a slight crack in the armor of anyone who just scoffs at secret societies. This is underscored by the particular snippet of translated code that the author chose to reveal:

The history of the origin of the Oculist society. Curiosity is the inheritance of mankind. Frequently we want to know something only because it needs to be kept secret.(bolding is mine) Those bolded words jump out at me (well, they're bold hahahahaha) and encapsulate the sense of a tradition and a legacy that is generational. Anyone who reads this article (and who is perceptive at all) will be left with the subtle subtext that these secret societies did and do exist.

Thank you, Bill!

Dennis

SKIBADABOMSKI
27th November 2012, 06:20
This was something that Charles / Atticus / Stephen was talking about. Amenjo made these graphs for more simple understanding. It's fascinating....


http://i46.tinypic.com/17zby0.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/eqt8h3.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2czsgnn.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/mmqwpf.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/67t69t.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/1z39xfp.jpg

Thought this thread would be fitting for these images to see what you make of them.


SKI-

Rocky_Shorz
27th November 2012, 06:54
reminds me of the power cube in transformers...

you back home again?

loved the shoes... ;)

M6*
27th November 2012, 07:02
Wow Bill!

I have been pouring over this information for a couple of hours now, and find it so interesting. Just to think,
this story is real, and not just something somebody made up for the sake of making money! I am an eighteenth
generation American, and of course the Masonic Order is also a part of my family history as well.

If, for a time, we could all manage to look on the Bright Side of things we can appreciate the fact that we are living
in the most exciting times the Planet has ever known. I sure hope we can all hang in there together long enough to
make a real and wonderful difference in the preservation of what has been given to us!

Thanks for the Post! M6*

deridan
27th November 2012, 08:10
the most interesting times in recorded history.

hopefully in our future heading, all these ships don't collide and explode.
choose the least pain[path],
and for any strategic experts who sacrifice their resource, may they have a 100millionalieninvaders to deal with
{one of those with the least pain is to take on the human project fully. the rotten boards of society are the image of the evil above in heirachy perhaps}

realitycorrodes
27th November 2012, 08:54
I did not have time to read it all. Can anyone summarize the important points. Also if some kind of code was broken....What was the "message" the code was hiding - Was it anything profound or useful - maybe the key to free energy?

M6*
27th November 2012, 18:13
Hi realitycorrodes (from Brisbane:-)!

Ah....the "message" .....That is the question that ought to keep some of us who are still trying to sort out things out of trouble for a while!
Every piece of the puzzle counts though! Have a good day. M6*

deridan
29th November 2012, 08:56
I did not have time to read it all. Can anyone summarize the important points. Also if some kind of code was broken....What was the "message" the code was hiding - Was it anything profound or useful - maybe the key to free energy?

if you go to RedIce, you can see the summarization of a part that has to do with how they initiated new members

oh,
same article here,
mostly the article deals with how they deciphered the code.
not many other structures for us to sink our teeth into

...for a document that old, no free energy stuffies, but there would probably be structures like which hidden teachings they followed, or other structures on how they'd deal with society at large...reaffirming convictions & such like

Carmody
6th December 2012, 17:33
of course, six uncapped or shall we say, differentially capped pyramids facing each other, is the core mechanical aspect (simple/mundane) of 'yellowbook'.

as for complexity coming into being via symbols, that require unfolding, this is a natural extrapolation of what humans do.

when children, as humans, we need to learn the basics of mechanical motion, and so on. then, the basics of thought.

Then, we learn to complete complex physical tasks, and those complex physical tasks, like walking and moving an arm, and so on, they are learned to the point that they automatic and recede into being autonamous functions. As a singular expression of a complex unfolding.

as we get older and older, more and more of such items or things, become complex functions with singular headers. for example, to pick up a glass and bring it to the mouth,and then the mouth opening, and the person ingesting the given expected fluid. this is an automatic full course of learned motions, as a set, that one might call 'drink'. And the entire set has become 'automatic' and singular.

Now, we can take that to the next level, where complex expression can be relegated into a single symbol, with outliers for descriptive context being contained within the extra aspects of dimensional integration of that symbol, with others.

this kind of thinking and being, for example... is what is required for efficient multi-state computing, regarding the given logic gates (multi-state type) and their layout-design.

This is giving me third-eye pressure, this thread.

As well, one can go to the works of Micheal Newton, I'm thinking. Some of the symbol recovered via hypnosis seems similar. Worth checking on. (besides the ancient Akkadian type appearance, as a general thing that comes to mind)

noprophet
6th December 2012, 17:39
of course, six uncapped or shall we say, differentially capped pyramids facing each other, is the core mechanical aspect (simple/mundane) of 'yellowbook'.

Would this be a 3-d version of a hyper-cube?

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091021131904/uncyclopedia/images/7/72/Hypercube.gif

Carmody
6th December 2012, 17:58
If one lives on a level above the moment of 3d linear time, then it is expected that the flow aspect (beginning-end) would be covered in being a contextual addition. This would require a 3d expression of a complex set, as a single expression.

So yes, possibly a 3d temporal flow language.

Living in the expression of now, as humans are, would require unfolding into linear 2d speak. Drip-drip-drip..and totally out context and meaning, would be the mundane human analysis. The proper analysis would have to be that which incorporates the flow of time, as a simplistic expression, like that of 'drink'. An extra layer that humans are not familiar with.

Putting that back into it's proper context, would requite that the given human give up on linear time type thinking and expression, in order to grasp the given concept and it's associated expression.

I'm sorta repeating myself here, but I'm just spitting it out on the page, as I think about it.

I mean, human language, as a form of what we might call writing... would have to be collapsed by another layer. as would it's expressive context be collapsed by another layer, which means the viewpoint of the being expressing it, has risen by another layer.

In this case, that collapsed layer, and a thus the layer of being/viewpoint that is risen to... would likely be that of "time".

Not just a shape context, but a 'beginning-middle-end' flow/timeframe context, and within dimensional integration, as well.

I'd hazard that it allows for simplistic 4d communicative expression for a 5d observation point.

In essence, when analyzing...:

"Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it"

----Jiddu Krishnamurti

I would first venture that there is nothing to unpack here, nothing to unfold. That the analysis simply must come from a level of thinking and being that is external to what is considered 'natural' for current science and problem breakdown. That such analysis would render the data largely meaningless and without context.

As a mundane comparative, we'd be like the dog when given the car keys. We'd simply start chewing on them.

When in fact, we are supposed to go to the store and get a pack of cigarettes and return with them. Ie, a much more complex expression, in complex time, as a flow and expression, as a singular indication, in what one might call writing.

Carmody
6th December 2012, 18:12
of course, six uncapped or shall we say, differentially capped pyramids facing each other, is the core mechanical aspect (simple/mundane) of 'yellowbook'.

Would this be a 3-d version of a hyper-cube?

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091021131904/uncyclopedia/images/7/72/Hypercube.gif

I've no idea on that as an exact comparative. it is just that a spinning i/o vector and with control (vortexes), needs be done from the three axis, in order to unfold or pack time.

Carmody
6th December 2012, 18:28
this kind of thinking and being, for example... is what is required for efficient multi-state computing, regarding the given logic gates (multi-state type) and their layout-design.



I have already designed, on paper, so to speak, the mechanical steps required to get to multi-state optical computing systems, expressed in 3D. Where one input has multiple physical directions it can go to, 3 directions...and at the same time, have 3 expressive levels for each.

I have all the technological and mechanistic basis for such at hand and in mind. Meaning, it can be built. Today.

Either I'm too far ahead, or the flow is too slow and dragging it's ass.

noprophet
6th December 2012, 18:34
I've no idea on that as an exact comparative. it is just that a spinning i/o vector and with control (vortexes), needs be done from the three axis, in order to unfold or pack time.

Can you define three-axis?

The way I was trying to in-vision it was:
1 Point on a sphere is equal distance from itself in any direction across the surface.
2 Points that are polar are equal distance from each other in any direction.
3 Points (this is what i was assuming you meant by 3-axis) equal to each other across the surface -- but my mind keeps jumping to 4 points and a 3-sided pyramid in the sphere. I'm having trouble imagining 3 equally spread points across the surface...

Or are you referring to the normal x,y,z axis?

(p.s. I think you're really far ahead.)

Carmody
6th December 2012, 18:34
Earthquake.

Just now.

See how that works?

I think I've said enough for one day.

(xyz)(+ orientation)

eaglespirit
6th December 2012, 18:39
This is giving me third-eye pressure, this thread.



Went off like a higher than high Tibetan bowl tone in my left ear just before getting to this line of Yours while reading!

Time to de-code the ALL of the 'all that's hidden' : )

noprophet
6th December 2012, 18:50
Hey Bill,

Any possible link to the whole translated text?

I´ve read the article, now I´m pretty curious about it.

Raf.

Full Text - English Translation (http://stp.lingfil.uu.se/~bea/copiale/copiale-translation.pdf)

Tesla_WTC_Solution
8th December 2012, 03:49
The alchemists needed languages like these to keep their secrets secret...

thanks for this!