Marie Kayali

[jackovesk]

http://www.undergroundvideouk.com/111.bmp

A-M-M-A-C-H


Ammach or ‘a mash’, is the brain child of researcher, project planner and therapist Joanne Summerscales, and Miles Johnston. The concept is basically to allow Abductees, Contactees and Mind Control victims to get help, and we encourage them to speak out in Witness Statements.

Oct 25, 2011

The Ammach project Witnesses series features Marie Kayali, from Ireland, who is a multiple Abductee. In Part 1 of 2. Marie was married to a Syrian, and has many interesting accounts to tell. In this she describes in great detail a vast space craft that has thousands of humans on borad packed with plants and with many other Extra Diemsnional beings.

Note: This one's worth watching if you have the time. Marie's experiences will simply leave you saying - WTF..!

Alien Abductee Marie Kayali Part 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGB61_ZdMmc&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGB61_ZdMmc&feature=plcp

Alien Abductee Marie Kayali Part 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULDKt5EFa0&feature=channel&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULDKt5EFa0&feature=channel&list=UL

Enjoy...

[Russ1959]

Wow, thank you, this is am awesome post Jackovesk!

I have watched video 1 and just watching the second one now so BUMP BUMP BUMP!

Russ

[LisAlien]

I caught this when I watched Simon Parkes' interview a while back and I find this woman, Marie.... very credible.
I also really like the interviewer. She's not just hearing words rather...she's really listening to the story. She's very good!

[markenty13]

Awesome post jackovesk - just watched the first part and was blown away with the information she provided - cant wait for part 2 - who needs movies when you have stuff like this :)

[wynderer]

i watched half of the first video -- will finish all eventually -- even just in that small bit, there were so many little similarites to some of my experiences -- not surprising, because most encounters & abductions seem to run in patterns -- won't know till i finish it, but those old wrinkled beings sounded like they might actually be nice ETs -- maybe they are the ones who keep her so healthy

[Little Ishta]

Great videos! Really enjoyed them.... thanks for posting these!

[jackovesk]

What led me to post this Abductee Interview was the uncanny simlarities I found between Marie Kayali's Testimony and James Bartley - MILABS & Reptilian Concept of Human Ownership Research...Which from memory I think I found somewhere on Houman's - Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite (Thread)...

If you watch the video below you will hear just how 'Over-Protective & Possessive' the Reptilians are over their 'Chosen' or should I say 'Preordained' victims...

She has had both...

Positive Experiences - Interdimensionals (Benelovent) & Negative Experiences - Reptilians (Maleovent)

ie. The Experiences of Marie Kayali's Dates

1. 1st guy went mad, put into a Mental Institution with Schizophrenia
2. 2nd guy witnessed the 'Door' of apartment being pounded on and almost smashed in
3. 3rd guy had a huge chunck of flesh removed from his thigh

...and so on and so on


James Bartley, associate of Eve Lorgen, Barbara Bartholic and the late Dr. Karla Turner, discusses the reptilian aspects of UFO and military abductions. Specific subject areas covered include astral operatives, reptilian mindset, sexual assaults and manipulation of abductees, and more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeDtt62PYo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeDtt62PYo

PS - You seem like an attractive and nice lady Marie Kayali, but I would'nt want to date you either...:scared:

FYI:


In some cases, an individual will have a “double crown” where there are two separate and distinct points surrounded by growth patterns. These are usually side by side evenly spaced at the back of the head.

http://www.hairfinder.com/hair2/doublecrown2.gif

From birth Marie Kayali IMHO is a 'Human-Alien Hybrid' of some kind...:yes4:

[londonmystic]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

[wynderer]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

well -- i had not read this post -- from Marie herself? --awesome! --before i clicked on this thread

what i'd wanted to say , after having thought about just the bit -- half of the first -- i watched -- was that i believe that you actually DO have 'benevolent' ETs in your life -- because you are so HEALTHY! & happy -- it seems, & well-balanced also

i have intuited all along that Alex Collier is also in contact w/gentle & good beings , because he also looks healthy, & is at peace w/himself

i'm looking forward to watching the rest of the videos

wyn

[meat suit]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

Dear Marie,
I watched both interviews yesterday and was really impressed with your openess..... I am really chuffed you are here to talk to now..

would you be able to share details of the wider picture that you are hinting at in the interview?

many thanks
meat

[jsb_swampfox]

I have not had a chance to watch the interview. Me and my two boys have this "double crown". Just wondering if you can give me a brief insight to the quote? Thanks for the post Jack

FYI:


In some cases, an individual will have a “double crown” where there are two separate and distinct points surrounded by growth patterns. These are usually side by side evenly spaced at the back of the head.

http://www.hairfinder.com/hair2/doublecrown2.gif

[londonmystic]

Thank you for posting my interview . If it provides even a small piece of this huge puzzle. il be happy.

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Thank you for that. Yes Joanne is great and Miles is excellent also. Great people , uncovering some astonising information and providing a great service.

[londonmystic]

What led me to post this Abductee Interview was the uncanny simlarities I found between Marie Kayali's Testimony and James Bartley - MILABS & Reptilian Concept of Human Ownership Research...Which from memory I think I found somewhere on Houman's - Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite (Thread)...

If you watch the video below you will hear just how 'Over-Protective & Possessive' the Reptilians are over their 'Chosen' or should I say 'Preordained' victims...

She has had both...

Positive Experiences - Interdimensionals (Benelovent) & Negative Experiences - Reptilians (Maleovent)

ie. The Experiences of Marie Kayali's Dates

1. 1st guy went mad, put into a Mental Institution with Schizophrenia
2. 2nd guy witnessed the 'Door' of apartment being pounded on and almost smashed in
3. 3rd guy had a huge chunck of flesh removed from his thigh

...and so on and so on


James Bartley, associate of Eve Lorgen, Barbara Bartholic and the late Dr. Karla Turner, discusses the reptilian aspects of UFO and military abductions. Specific subject areas covered include astral operatives, reptilian mindset, sexual assaults and manipulation of abductees, and more.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeDtt62PYo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeDtt62PYo

PS - You seem like an attractive and nice lady Marie Kayali, but I would'nt want to date you either...:scared:

FYI:


In some cases, an individual will have a “double crown” where there are two separate and distinct points surrounded by growth patterns. These are usually side by side evenly spaced at the back of the head.

http://www.hairfinder.com/hair2/doublecrown2.gif

From birth Marie Kayali IMHO is a 'Human-Alien Hybrid' of some kind...:yes4:

Thanks for that lol I watched the vid, scary stuff. Quite a bit of it doesnt fit well with me though, some of it does perhaps. I'm not sure what the double crown means tbh and I don't know if there is any connection or clue there. If there is some information on that, perhaps you can share? I would be interested to see. I have noticed that if I date someone who isn't 'awake' and I dont discuss anything regarding this, nothing will happen. Weird things only happen to people Ive told about all this. That seems to be the pattern emerging over the years.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Great videos! Really enjoyed them.... thanks for posting these!

Thank you, Im glad you enjoyed them x be well

[londonmystic]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

well -- i had not read this post -- from Marie herself? --awesome! --before i clicked on this thread

what i'd wanted to say , after having thought about just the bit -- half of the first -- i watched -- was that i believe that you actually DO have 'benevolent' ETs in your life -- because you are so HEALTHY! & happy -- it seems, & well-balanced also

i have intuited all along that Alex Collier is also in contact w/gentle & good beings , because he also looks healthy, & is at peace w/himself

i'm looking forward to watching the rest of the videos

wyn

Thank you x I should have clarifed the health issue a bit better. I seem to be immune to viruses and bacteria. I do get aches and pains , as you would with normal day to day living. But I do think it's important to mention the virus and bacteria immunity. Perhaps this is part of whatever will happen in the near future. Maybe we're going to need this immunity to survive whatever may be forthcoming in the not so distant future. I have always felt that two forces are in my life, good and evil. I hit so many obstacles and am helped through so many as well. It's all very complicated and goes very deep. I may seem well balanced but it has been a struggle. I went through hell for a long time. There is so much I didnt get time to cover in the interviews, so much has happened, even in the last few months.

[londonmystic]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

Dear Marie,
I watched both interviews yesterday and was really impressed with your openess..... I am really chuffed you are here to talk to now..

would you be able to share details of the wider picture that you are hinting at in the interview?

many thanks
meat

Thanks , thats realy good of you to say. I hope I can answer some things at least and offer even a small piece of the puzzle.

Im still getting infomation on that and am still trying to piece it all together. Things have happened recently. Alot of strange things have been happening. Some small items from my past , that had been thrown away years ago are suddenly turning up after I talked about them in conversations. This has happened at least 5 times , 3 of those in the last 2 months. Ive no idea what this means. Am I time travellng back to the past? This is my question. Ive also discovered lately , the power of my mind and how to do things with my mind. I need to get back to you on this question as it's quite complicated and Ive never actually got it all down in any sort of order. I am reluctant to say some parts , as it doesnt look good for quite alot of people Im afraid. But i will get back to you further on this soon x

[Debra]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

Hi there londonmystic (Marie)!!

Your journey has been incredible, to say the least. I noted during the first video that AMMACH put up a note saying that following the interview, you had experienced some ''hostile'' visitations. Could you expand more on what has happened to you since - in relation to these further experiences?

I am a little perplexed, and naturally have concern for you.

Are these the same visitors that you have been in contact with over the years, the same ones that took you on a tour of their ''ship'' and through the white corridor with plants either side?

Also, did your ex husband allude to any experiences as well? Have you ever wondered what the connection is with your coming together?

Thanks Marie. It is a great gift having you here.

Best wishes, Zebra

[londonmystic]

[QUOTE=londonmystic;481088]Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

Hi there londonmystic (Marie)!!

Your journey has been incredible, to say the least. I noted during the first video that AMMACH put up a note saying that following the interview, you had experienced some ''hostile'' visitations. Could you expand more on what has happened to you since - in relation to these further experiences?

Hi there Zebra
Thanks so much for taking the time to watch the interview. I'l be happy to answer as best I can. It's all very deep and complicated and sometimes the questions arent as easy or straightforward to answer. I may have to go round the houses a bit to answer.
The hostility after the interviews were mainly from the manmade kindI feel. Previously I didn't really have much knowledge on gov mind control and attacks. I was sort of on the fence about it and never thought it was happening to me. But listening to other witnesses and hearing some things that have happened to them, I can say I have had similair happen to me. it became clear after the interviews. In the 5 or 6 months since I did the interview so much has happened. Straightaway I noticed my head felt funny. It really was like a signal of some sort. I don't really know how to describe the feeling but I felt I was going mad. There were alot of suicidal thoughts going on in my head then which weren't mine, if that makes sense. It was like something putting the idea in my head all the time. My head felt like it was burning inside and I could feel something was happening, buzzing, pains, and weird electrical pulses sort of. That went on for about 2 weeks. I couldnt talk to anyone on the phone or see anyone. When I did speak to someone on the phone there was always someone else there. A couple of people even told me they got a strange call after speaking to me, asking for a strange name or some other silly questions. After that went away I noticed that everyone close to me was having some really bad luck and accidents or illness in a way. I was away for a weekend and someone had been in my house and moved things and left all my windows wide open on a really windy stormy night. That happened twice. Three fires almost started, one at my brothers house while I was there and two at my own house. This was caused by wiring melting and going on fire, luckily I caught both of them in time but it could have quite easily gone the other way. Another one was my vacuum cleaner just started to smoke and the wire melted and started smouldering and I saw flames. The wiring in my house is fine , there's no reason for that to happen. There was a horrible incident at my brothers house the same weekend involving his little 9 months old baby girl. She almost died accidently when something got caught around her neck while we were all in the same room. Really horrible experience but luckily she was ok and no injuries. My daughter has been in hospital for a blood transfusion, luckily shes fine now too but suddenly she has become allergic to fruit and veg and certain other foods. She had a horrible allergic reaction recently and almost went into shock, rather like a nut allergy . Luckily she's ok but we just have to watch what she eats now. This all came on suddenly. My mom was suddenly diagnosed with lung cancer aswell. I asked for help with that one and luckily she's ok now and had it removed and she's doing great. There's a long list of other things that I won't bore you with just now but those are the sort of things that have happened in those few months. These all could be explained as coincidences and just part of everyday life but most of it did stop when I asked to take the videos down. I released them again when I'd sorted out everything that I needed to. I know the illumni hate me and fear me for some reason. These are the kind of tactics they use, mainly to grind you down and push you to the edge.


I am a little perplexed, and naturally have concern for you.

Thats very sweet and kind of you but there's no need. I know I have very strong protection from a high source. This has been proven to me on countless occasions throughout my life. Whenever I have asked for help, I have recieved it without fail. I can't call these negative experiences.
Sorry I will send this now and answer more shortly. I hate typing out long replies then somehow losing it, so I'l post this now

marie x

[londonmystic]

[QUOTE=Zebra;482852][QUOTE=londonmystic;481088]Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

Hi there londonmystic (Marie)!!



I am a little perplexed, and naturally have concern for you.

I know so many people see these experiences as negative and feel anything or anyone who can do the things they do, can't be good. I have a problem with the way this data is collected and collated. I have all the respect in the world for honest researchers who are doing their best to get an accurate picture for us all. The sad fact is that a high percentage of what we read and hear is not the truth. People who come forward with accounts of experiences cannot all be relied upon. People lie for all sorts of reasons, from mental illness and attention seeking to paid disinformers and a long list of others. Some people have an odd dream and no other evidence and put it down to being abducted. The problem I have is that all this information is being collated and conclusions are being made based on half truths and incorrect information, and even filling in the blanks oneself. Unfortunately or fortunately , honest researchers who offer a platform for people to come forward and tell their story, do not discriminate or pick and chose who they believe or disbelieve, they give everyone a chance, which does result in incorrect and misleading information , regardless of how well meaning. Although I have been terrified many times, I still beleive these beings are positive. The fear may have been as a result of the strange science involved.
The last two months things have changed dramatically for me. My life has flipped right over for the better and everyone around me is doing great aswell. My psychic senses have heightened so much and Iv'e realised a few things that I can do, mainly to do with telepathy and healing in a completely differnt way, and also changing things to go in my favour. I also had some information as to where our friends come from.


marie x

[londonmystic]

[QUOTE=londonmystic;481088]Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie


Are these the same visitors that you have been in contact with over the years, the same ones that took you on a tour of their ''ship'' and through the white corridor with plants either side?

For a long time I've believed all the negative things are caused by illuminati. I know they use powers that some would call black magic or paranormal. Combined with the law and everything else they use, they can create attacks from all angles and directions, which Ive had constantly. Somehow I'm being 'accidently' thrown into the middle of them for reasons which I'm not aware of yet but I am starting to realise a few things. I think there are certain people who can change things with their minds , like time and outcomes of things somehow. This may be what both sides are interested in. The implications of this ability are astronomical. I think I may be one of those people. I hope other abductees or contactees will look into this with themselves and hopefully discover a few new pieces of the puzzle because I really think this is a big clue.

Also, did your ex husband allude to any experiences as well? Have you ever wondered what the connection is with your coming together?

My husband and I broke up very soon after the main experience involving the 3 of us that I mentioned, that was the huge awakening for me. Thinking back on his reactions, he never seemed surprised when anything weird happened, but never said much either. He was a very quiet secretive person, especially about his feelings. Although he wasnt a practising religious person, he would pray if anything happened and hung things around the house to keep bad stuff away. I don't think my husband had any experiences at all. If he did, I think he would have put it down to a dream or his imagination or something else. I don't think he would mention it, that's how secretive he was.

I have wondered why we came together, alot actually. I can only think of two possibilities really. It may be because of my daughter. If there is any credulity to the blood type Rhesus neg, that could have something to do with it. Both my husband and I have the o type neg factor so my daughter is double negative, one from each of us.
Or, it was to get me involved in illuminati circles for some reason. I can't think of anything else. If anyone else can, I'd love to hear. I strongly believe there has been some time travel in my life. My daughter was saying things before I realised. She's lived the same day twice on occasions, a bit like groundhog day. Most of the psychic things i know are usally like memories, like I know it from before, it's not like things come to me or are told to me. It's as if I already knew before. Recently I've found a few things in the house that I know where thrown away years ago. Some were toys from when my daughter was 4 or 5 years old, shes 19 now. Those toys havnt been in the house for years, and suddenly show up. My brother also saw 2 of me at the same time in differnt rooms of my house wearing different clothes, that was about two years ago. So with all the strangeness , coming up wih conclusions isnt easy and I dont' get straightforward answers from anyone. I am very careful not to fill in the blanks with my own thoughts and assumptions but I do try to bare things in mind aswell just in case. I try to work with what I know for definite and what I know to be absolute fact. At the end of the day, I can only rely on what I know myself.

Great questions, Ive enjoyed answering them . Hope some of it makes sense to you lol

take care xx marie

[wynderer]

Hi Marie -- i have tried several times to finish watching the videos, but i get stress reactions -- there is too much in the little i have watched that is like the patterns in my own life [i started 2 threads here, one re an abduction by a Reptilian, & one about the Reptilian/human hybrids & the Grey/human clones here on planet Earth]

& now i am very concerned that you have come to the conclusion that your abductors are basically good beings

that 'chance' meeting w/your husband -- i also have had all kinds of doors open to me, especially in that late teens -- early 20s time when decisions made often determine the course of one's life

some examples -- both Jimi Hendrix & Jim Morrison picked me out of the crowd to be their hot babe for the night -- i was proposed to [very romantically] by a man in Naval Intelligence to whom i was actually quite suited -- i was invited to join a little theater group in Philly where a few of the 'Cheers' cast were hanging out -- a blind date at West Point , & the young man liked me -- i was asked to model a couple of times , once by the Philly rep for the agency that did the Miss World [or Miss Universe --long time ago (: ] pageant -- some scions of some very wealthy families were interested in me -- etc, etc

i did not walk thru any of those doors, nor the ones that have opened since -- not from a conscious understanding & decision -- i don't know if it was my own inner wisdom or guidance from my protectors & guardians in spirit -- maybe both -- but i think i have chosen the better path, of obscurity & poverty -- it seems the closer one gets to fame & a lot of $$, the closer one gets to the heart of the evil in this world

Stephanie Relfe had an article on her website re the self-destruct/suicide commands implanted into the unconscious of abductees [& i think those who have been subjected to the MK-Ultra -types of mind control programming] -- to be activated if/when we start remembering -- [been there, done that... ]

for a long time i have been saying to myself & others that i don't want to remember all my other abductions, [beginning when i was a small child] -- i think i get that sinking feeling in my stomach when i try to watch your video because my memories are starting to nudge at the edges of my consciousness, & what you say triggers them

lately i have been thinking, 'What exactly DID go on during all those abductions? ' -- a dangerous question, i think --along w/the other question i have been asking myself lately: 'Where exactly DO i go when i leave my body every night? & why can't i remember?'

i find it of interest that , according to data available, only 20% of abductees are taken by Reptilians -- i have been doing my own little bit of private research over the last few years, & it seems to me that most of this 20% are good-looking women of the 'hotties' kind -- we all seem to be intelligent also

my psi abilities are also increasing -- re healing -- in the mid-'80s i had a very successful massage practice in Annapolis [bedroom community for D.C. -- had some hi-rollers as clients --NSA & such] -- towards the end of my practice, people were being healed of long-standing conditions -- both my client & i could feel the energy flowing thru my hands -- my son, also an abductee, died at that time, & i spent the next 3 yrs trying to drink myself to death

i would very much like to hear your thoughts on anything i've brought up -- thank you for being here

wyn

EDIT for this PS -- actually i know why i can't remember what i am doing when i am out of my body -- there is an implant intefering w/my 3rd Eye Chakra, & one at the base of my spine, the Root Chakra -

[Realeyes]

Hi Londonmystic (Marie)

Thank you so very much for this interview and your courage. It triggered an early memory within me that I had forgotten; I too have a 'dot' in my eye that mysteriously appeared.

I too have had E.T. experiences the majority positive contact. I have also had abductions from others.

The best advice I can offer to anyone who is having either types of ET interaction, is training one's conscious awareness to expand, this allows one to remember and eventually have more control when these experiences happen. Learning how to induce and control one's own out of body experiences is how one expands their conscious awareness because it is in these other realms/dimensions where the ET interactions occurs.

The more one remembers, the more self empowered one becomes in how to deal with these situations. smile. I realised I would be fearful of anything I didn't understand; once I had the understanding and knowledge of how something works, I was no longer fearful because I had choices too.

Marie, I will PM you at a later date.

[huyi82]

i watched both videos and was immediately drawn to joanne, especially her surname "summerscales" seriously?

a few points i noticed in the interview:

this woman being interviewed came from a bloodline and it seems anyone with "blue blood" have high rates of alien abduction happening to them, are these people genetically engineered by the aliens and given souls so they can incarnate so that the aliens can spill their seed on earth or something? i have heard of another case where a man was told by the aliens that he was given a mechanical soul and incarnated here by the aliens, it seems there is a lot of people with this negative blood type, and if my theory is right all these people who have this negative blood type are getting interactions with the aliens throughout their life just like a scientist interacts with his specimen and checks it's progress....

i agree, these extra dimensional are not physical beings, they come from the 4D dimension, even their space crafts are not physical, it says a lot about how mainstream media is conditioning us to believe they are physical when they are not.

i also came to this conclusion becasue when Marie said she was taken to a area where it was all white and saw all those humans lined up she wasn't among them and was interacting with the aliens like she is one of them, when asking a question and got a answer it's like she knew already what the answer was it's like she is kind of connected with the aliens somehow....

i am going to investigate the double crown and see if there are any other well known people who have this then the rabbit hole will get even deeper, i think marie was spot on when she said the aliens are up to something genetically these type of negative blood types are special genetically modified for some purpose but i don't know if we will find out what that purpose is for.

again the race issue has come up, i wonder if anyone can get any info on african decent or asian people with RH negative blood, it seems the aliens are either extremely racist or they think the white race is highly superior to any other race, the egyptians had a lot of alien activity in their history so that should be investigated to see if any of the Pharaohs have RH negative blood too? maybe then we can rule out the race issue these aliens seem to have...

picture proving my point, for african decent to get a negative blood type is very rare it seems:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/jalaneme/illuminati/Image1-3.jpg

[londonmystic]

Hi there Wynderer

Thanks for all that. I have just spent over and hour typing a very long detailed reply to you and it suddenly disappeared somehow, can't seem to work out what happened and can't find it. So annoying , bare with me, I'l try to remember and retype it all again now. x Marie

[wynderer]

Hi Marie -- i'm not surprised that your reply to me mysteriously disappeared -- i have had many many obstacles thrown in my way when attempting to contact/connect w/other abductees, or w/abduction researchers

but sorry you have to re-think & re-type it all [ been there, done that too...]
wyn

[Tangri]

[QUOTE=
PS - You seem like an attractive and nice lady Marie Kayali, but I would'nt want to date you either...:scared:

FYI:


Thanks for that lol I watched the vid, scary stuff. Quite a bit of it doesnt fit well with me though, some of it does perhaps. I'm not sure what the double crown means tbh and I don't know if there is any connection or clue there. If there is some information on that, perhaps you can share? I would be interested to see. I have noticed that if I date someone who isn't 'awake' and I dont discuss anything regarding this, nothing will happen. Weird things only happen to people Ive told about all this. That seems to be the pattern emerging over the years.[COLOR="red"]

It is Ok then I can date with you since I am not awake yet:o

[londonmystic]

Hi Marie -- i have tried several times to finish watching the videos, but i get stress reactions -- there is too much in the little i have watched that is like the patterns in my own life [i started 2 threads here, one re an abduction by a Reptilian, & one about the Reptilian/human hybrids & the Grey/human clones here on planet Earth]

Hi Wyn

Thank you for your message and thank you for taking the time. Sorry you are suffering stress reactions. I felt the same thing when I first came in to this site to respond to the thread. My mind just went blank and I couldnt reply to anyone. After a couple of days I was ok, hence the late replies. I will check out your threads a bit later. I have to say that I have never had any contact with Reptillians, to my knowledge and from what I can remember. From what I've seen, they never looked reptilian.

& now i am very concerned that you have come to the conclusion your abductors are basically good beings

Can I ask why the concern? I kinda guess some would see me as dillusional for believing they are positive. I'm basing my conclusions on what I have experienced over the years and I have definitely seen compassion and kindness. I know it's been suggested that false memories and emotions are possibly implanted to give a false sense of reality. Or possibly , 'they look after their own'. I'm not going by feelings but by actions.

that 'chance' meeting w/your husband -- i also have had all kinds of doors open to me, especially in that late teens -- early 20s time when decisions made often determine the course of one's life

Yes I have had many doors opened for me throughout my life, getting picked out of crowds aswell, although I've always tried to keep a low profile and not get attention but it seems to seek me out no matter what I do

some examples -- both Jimi Hendrix & Jim Morrison picked me out of the crowd to be their hot babe for the night -- i was proposed to [very romantically] by a man in Naval Intelligence to whom i was actually quite suited -- i was invited to join a little theater group in Philly where a few of the 'Cheers' cast were hanging out -- a blind date at West Point , & the young man liked me -- i was asked to model a couple of times , once by the Philly rep for the agency that did the Miss World [or Miss Universe --long time ago (: ] pageant -- some scions of some very wealthy families were interested in me -- etc, etc

You seem to have had a very interesting life yourself, with very similar things happening to you aswell. I can relate to all that you say. I have had so many opportunities , passed on some but accepted others. But I always seem to be in the right place at the right time so to speak, as my friends would say, or have the luck of the Irish. But I know most things are orchestrated.

i did not walk thru any of those doors, nor the ones that have opened since -- not from a conscious understanding & decision -- i don't know if it was my own inner wisdom or guidance from my protectors & guardians in spirit -- maybe both -- but i think i have chosen the better path, of obscurity & poverty -- it seems the closer one gets to fame & a lot of $$, the closer one gets to the heart of the evil in this world

You are right about that in a way and I'm realy happy that you seemed to have chosen the right paths for you and have some sort of guidance. I'm sure there are some decent rich people about though too.

Stephanie Relfe had an article on her website re the self-destruct/suicide commands implanted into the unconscious of abductees [& i think those who have been subjected to the MK-Ultra -types of mind control programming] -- to be activated if/when we start remembering -- [been there, done that... ].

I will check that out later on. I have never thought that I was involved in any mind control apart from the incident I mentioned earlier in another post. I'm sure that I am being helped slowly to remember. I have been led on a knowledge trip and guided to study certain things, which I know have helped me to understand things better. I know it would be impossible to be told all this right away, and I have been told that it's up to the individual when they are ready to remember it and accept it. I know they wanted me to know.


for a long time i have been saying to myself & others that i don't want to remember all my other abductions, [beginning when i was a small child] -- i think i get that sinking feeling in my stomach when i try to watch your video because my memories are starting to nudge at the edges of my consciousness, & what you say triggers them

I have been told this several times now and I'm sorry if you are upset by what I'm saying. Perhaps you aren't ready to remember it all just yet. I know I will have a face to face meeting soon, when I am ready. Sometimes I feel I really am ready to confront them head on, then I hear a little noise in the other room and nearly jump out of my skin, so obviously I am not ready for a full face to face meeting with them just yet but I know they are waiting for me to be and time may be of the essence. I have felt the same as you in the past, and I know that sinking feeling very well. But I don't think pushing it to the backs of our minds can help in the long run. I'm not sure if I believe in god as such but I try to be a decent person all the same and I figure , well if I am in serious trouble and need help, surely god should help me. Or failing that, I know I'm not the only one and there are many in the same boat so we have to accept our fate because there may not be alot we can do about it. This may be something we signed up for before we were born, who knows? But i definitely feel they are positive.

lately i have been thinking, 'What exactly DID go on during all those abductions? ' -- a dangerous question, i think --along w/the other question i have been asking myself lately: 'Where exactly DO i go when i leave my body every night? & why can't i remember?'

I have asked myself this so many times, especially when I wake up with unusual wounds. Judging by reactions I've seen from many people, I think it's in their best interests not to remember. They will when they are ready but it's not something that can be accepted and many have ended up in a bad mental state. I think it's better if it happens slowly over time, piece by piece, this helps with the acceptance

i find it of interest that , according to data available, only 20% of abductees are taken by Reptilians -- i have been doing my own little bit of private research over the last few years, & it seems to me that most of this 20% are good-looking women of the 'hotties' kind -- we all seem to be intelligent also

There are many things said about reptilians, one being that they do like human women. I'm not sure that the data can be relied upon as proof that this is true. I've studied ancient history and religions, looking for answers too. There seems to be alot of evidence in the past that reptillians have been here and had an impact. But are they still here? If so why isn't there some real evidence now?

my psi abilities are also increasing -- re healing -- in the mid-'80s i had a very successful massage practice in Annapolis [bedroom community for D.C. -- had some hi-rollers as clients --NSA & such] -- towards the end of my practice, people were being healed of long-standing conditions -- both my client & i could feel the energy flowing thru my hands -- my son, also an abductee, died at that time, & i spent the next 3 yrs trying to drink myself to death

So sorry to hear about your son. That must have been awful for you. I probably would have reacted as you did. Glad you're still with us though. How is your healing now? Do you still practise? I have discovered a new method that really works wonders. I don't actually do the healing but rather I send telepathic thoughts to the person and more or less get inside their heads and help them to heal themselves, or order them too sometimes. I use this method for other things also.


I'd very much like to hear your thoughts on anything i've brought up -- thank you for being here

wyn

EDIT for this PS -- actually i know why i can't remember what i am doing when i am out of my body -- there is an implant intefering w/my 3rd Eye Chakra, & one at the base of my spine, the Root Chakra -

I have learnt alot on how to use my mind and I think this is the power we need to get through this. Our minds are amazing and can do amazing things.

Thank you for all your input and I hope this helps and gives you a bit more insight.
Feel free to ask me anything and I'l gladly reply to the best of my knowledge
take care, marie x

[londonmystic]

Thanks for posting my interview and thanks to all for the nice comments. I will be glad to answer anything I can x Marie

well -- i had not read this post -- from Marie herself? --awesome! --before i clicked on this thread

what i'd wanted to say , after having thought about just the bit -- half of the first -- i watched -- was that i believe that you actually DO have 'benevolent' ETs in your life -- because you are so HEALTHY! & happy -- it seems, & well-balanced also

i have intuited all along that Alex Collier is also in contact w/gentle & good beings , because he also looks healthy, & is at peace w/himself

i'm looking forward to watching the rest of the videos

wyn

I should say that it hasn't always been the case. I've more or less gone through hell to get here. It has been a struggle to stay sane but I feel I have passed the worse now, hopefully

[londonmystic]

It is Ok then I can date with you since I am not awake yet:o[/QUOTE]

Thanks thats good to know ,maybe I wont become a recluse and hermit after all lol

[wynderer]

Hi Marie --

i finished watching your interview -- there were all kinds of wierd little synchronicities, around the edges

like my maternal Grandmother arrived here straight off the boat from County Mayo , & my mother was born w/a caul & is RH-neg [don't know about myself]

also i had just finished posting about having a whirlpool almost suck me down immediately after i saw a black helicopter, & then watched your videos , & learned you also had the whirlpool thing

the implant in your right jaw [as i remember] -- i have something in my left jaw in the same spot you indicated-- in one of James Casbolt's videos, he described an implant right where mine is, & described the pain trail, like mine

also the fighting sleep -- this is something that i only started doing a few months ago -- i was doing it unconsciously until i asked myself, 'What's going on?' -- it seems there is something when i go to sleep that i want to avoid

when your jaw got frozen [horrible], it reminded of that scene from 'The Matrix' when they closed Neo's mouth up

i have seen a Reptilian -- i wrote about it in a thread here -- i managed to stay conscious for the first time ever during an abduction, & finally met him on equal [conscious] terms

that fatigue when you wake up, the brain fog -- sometimes i feel like i am stuck between dimensions, & can't get clear in either -- this goes on all day sometimes

many women abductees & mind control victims have 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' & 'fibromyalgia'

your saying that your 'life has changed for the worse' -- mine certainly took a nosedive after not being cooperative during the abduction, & fighting off an astral rape attempt a few weeks later -- those who don't go thru this are not aware of how easy it is for the controllers to make anyone's life very difficult --most Humans are very easy for them to manipulate

i have fought them all along, since i was a child & tried to hide from the light that i knew would come thru the window & find me -- i am being accused of being fearful on this forum -- my hiding was not out of quivering fear, it was an attempt to protect myself

sometimes i wonder if those abducted by Reptilians are all flunk-outs from the mind control programs, & they give us to the Reptilians to play with

i'm taking steps to retrieve my own memories

i hope all in your life is going well--
wyn

[Seikou-Kishi]

i have seen a Reptilian -- i wrote about it in a thread here -- i managed to stay conscious for the first time ever during an abduction, & finally met him on equal [conscious] terms

I don't suppose you could link us to your account, could you? Very interesting.

[wynderer]

Hi, my friend Seikou-Kishi --

here's the link -- i hope Marie won't mind if i post it here-- maybe she might want to read it also

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43754-Abduction-by-Reptilian

[Seikou-Kishi]

Thank you very much Wynderer. Amazing :D

[londonmystic]

Sorry for late reply to all those who replied to the thread and thank you all for taking the time. Sorry I've been offline for a while, net probs as usual. It seems every time I start talking , something happens. If I were a suspicious person, I'd be thinking we have some saboteurs in our midst lol I will get round to answering all today Sorry to hear Wynderer left before I got time to reply.

[londonmystic]

Hi Londonmystic (Marie)

Thank you so very much for this interview and your courage. It triggered an early memory within me that I had forgotten; I too have a 'dot' in my eye that mysteriously appeared.

I too have had E.T. experiences the majority positive contact. I have also had abductions from others.

The best advice I can offer to anyone who is having either types of ET interaction, is training one's conscious awareness to expand, this allows one to remember and eventually have more control when these experiences happen. Learning how to induce and control one's own out of body experiences is how one expands their conscious awareness because it is in these other realms/dimensions where the ET interactions occurs.

The more one remembers, the more self empowered one becomes in how to deal with these situations. smile. I realised I would be fearful of anything I didn't understand; once I had the understanding and knowledge of how something works, I was no longer fearful because I had choices too.

Marie, I will PM you at a later date.

Hi There

Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the interview and respond. Sorry for the late reply. I find whenever I get talking, I'm suddenly faced with all sorts of
other things to do and sort out urgently, distractions I'm sure.


My experiences have all been different slightly. I'm not entirely convinced that it is on another conscious level, it's a mixture of both realy. I have seen actual physical metallic ships, one was enormous, right over my house and so low, I could see every detail, others have been orbs of light. It could be argued that there are many types of visitor, with different types of technology. But are they all doing the same thing, and keeping the same secrets and working to the same agenda with the same tactics?? All that seems unlikely to me but not impossible either. I have never had any military type scenarios, so I don't believe that I have military abductions, after the real event , as some say have happened to them.

The advice about expanding one's mind cant do any harm but I feel if anyone has had ongoing experiences, their minds have already started expanding a long time ago. The advice I would give now after years of living with it, would be to accept it sooner rather than later, work with it, ask them for answers, talk to them and tell them how it bothers you and what it is doing to your life. I think it's quite hard to give advice really because every person is different and copes differently depending on the childhood and family situations and all sorts of factors. I've realised there are different types of abductees and contactees. Some are the odd accidental one , which seem to get treated badly and thrown back to earth with a bump lol, they seem to be a one off experience. Then there are others that are ongoing from childhood, that seem to get better treatment in a way but still in the dark, and then there are others on a different scale, which is something else completely. I've realised lately that this is much deeper than anyone could ever imagine . It's not just a matter of seeing a ship and having contact and so what, get on with your life sort of thing, this is much much deeper than that.
I don' think it's possible to train one's mind to resist or argue or even remember, no matter how hard they try. 'They' are definitely in control where that is concerned. It's beyond our powers and capabilities and it has to be accepted that they are way ahead of us in technology and knowledge and they could conquer this planet in seconds , if and when they ever so wanted. It's my understanding that they are manipulating the past somehow. I believe we can go back to the past definitely but I'm not sure about travelling to the future. This is probably why we get de ja vu, and people getting future premonitions, psychics who think they see the future even. It's probably all because we have seen it, and lived it, a bit like groundhog day. I believe this is happening now.

I can't really offer advice on how to stop abductions. As far as I am aware , it's definitely part of a programme , ongoing since birth and probably generations before you too. If you take it from a scientific point of view, saying a silly prayer or hanging a talisman over your bed really isn't going to help you lol The best advice is learning to cope with it and living with it whilst maintaining your sanity, and try not to go off the rails. Expand the mind to thinking outside the box and not conforming to what we are expected and trained or told to think. On the other hand, if there are different types of beings doing all this, some things may work with them for some people.

[londonmystic]

i watched both videos and was immediately drawn to joanne, especially her surname "summerscales" seriously?

a few points i noticed in the interview:

this woman being interviewed came from a bloodline and it seems anyone with "blue blood" have high rates of alien abduction happening to them, are these people genetically engineered by the aliens and given souls so they can incarnate so that the aliens can spill their seed on earth or something? i have heard of another case where a man was told by the aliens that he was given a mechanical soul and incarnated here by the aliens, it seems there is a lot of people with this negative blood type, and if my theory is right all these people who have this negative blood type are getting interactions with the aliens throughout their life just like a scientist interacts with his specimen and checks it's progress....

i agree, these extra dimensional are not physical beings, they come from the 4D dimension, even their space crafts are not physical, it says a lot about how mainstream media is conditioning us to believe they are physical when they are not.

i also came to this conclusion becasue when Marie said she was taken to a area where it was all white and saw all those humans lined up she wasn't among them and was interacting with the aliens like she is one of them, when asking a question and got a answer it's like she knew already what the answer was it's like she is kind of connected with the aliens somehow....

i am going to investigate the double crown and see if there are any other well known people who have this then the rabbit hole will get even deeper, i think marie was spot on when she said the aliens are up to something genetically these type of negative blood types are special genetically modified for some purpose but i don't know if we will find out what that purpose is for.

again the race issue has come up, i wonder if anyone can get any info on african decent or asian people with RH negative blood, it seems the aliens are either extremely racist or they think the white race is highly superior to any other race, the egyptians had a lot of alien activity in their history so that should be investigated to see if any of the Pharaohs have RH negative blood too? maybe then we can rule out the race issue these aliens seem to have...

picture proving my point, for african decent to get a negative blood type is very rare it seems:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/jalaneme/illuminati/Image1-3.jpg


Hi There
Thanks so much for that very informative very interesting reply

The blood type issue has crossed my mind several times. My ex husband who was syrian, so in the asian catergory I think, had the negative blood type also.
I know both my grandparents on mothers side had Oneg also, but none of their children had it . It seems to have skipped a generation and now it's here again.

As far as I am aware, news from researchers indicate that there are all blood types and races involved in abductions, not just the rhesus neg types. But I don't
think we have enough numbers and statistics complied just yet to really have that information accurately. It would be handy if there were some database
with these statistics, then we may get a clearer picture and comparison's of what's happening and who is of interest to them. It may shed some more light.

I've noticed lately that things are being given labels. IDE's, OBE's, EDB's etc . These are names we are coming up with to fit in with our scientific understanding, and shouldn't be classed as facts just yet in my opinion.
With our basic knowledge in physics, it is believed that visitors can't possibly get to earth in a short space of time. They would need too much fuel among other things etc it is claimed.
Therefore, with those implausibilites, it is concluded that they must be travelling interdimensionally, because that would be quicker and explain their rapid
appearance and departures and would fit in with our tidy physics . This is not necessarily factual and should only be considered as a possibility and not fact.
If a new fuel were suddenly thrown into the mix ,it would change things completely.

I have seen both types of craft, orbs of light types but also amazing physical metal ships. One was so low over my house and absolutely huge, like something from independence day. I saw every detail,. This definitely is not anything we could have built and I did not mistake it for any of our craft. This was something other worldly and totally out of this world. That was the most amazing one I've seen and was so low. It showed up after I'd asked them to, the night before my sister died, I was devastated and really upset and they showed up in that huge craft. It was a physical object and so amazing.

So I guess what I'm saying is, they have the ability to be both, or else they are different types with different technology to each other. But we have enough footage and photos to see they are actual craft with invisibility abilities aswell.

While investigating the double crown, check out the caul aswell lol, as I was also born with one of those. I have asked researchers if anyone ever mentioned it
but do date , I havn't heard anything. This is a site with some good background and historical info on it.


http://caulbearer.org/

The myths and legends go back a long way, so I though maybe it might be a clue. Would be interesting if any other contactee/abductee was born with this also.

I think the next step for me is regression, which I have thought about for a while. I know I will have to live with whatever I discover so I have been putting
it off until I felt ready. And oddly, I decided I want to go ahead with it now and suddenly the next day ' Ammach' asked me if I want to be part of a
regression session and for it to be filmed. Just at the right time oddly enough. I have agreed so that will be available in the next few weeks.

The reason I have come forward now is that, this goes back all my life , so for quite a few decades now. The information I must have hidden, must be important
and quite alot of it aswell. Especially now during this time I feel, some things need to be opened up now.

[mojo]

I have seen both types of craft, orbs of light types but also amazing physical metal ships. One was so low over my house and absolutely huge, like something from independence day. I saw every detail

TY to the OP and Marie for sharing. Have you filmed or photographed anything Marie? Also on my channel are numerous clips and I wonder if you could elaborate more on anything in them or help me understand more about the type. Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/user/whotookmymojo?ob=0

[londonmystic]

I have seen both types of craft, orbs of light types but also amazing physical metal ships. One was so low over my house and absolutely huge, like something from independence day. I saw every detail

TY to the OP and Marie for sharing. Have you filmed or photographed anything Marie? Also on my channel are numerous clips and I wonder if you could elaborate more on anything in them or help me understand more about the type. Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/user/whotookmymojo?ob=0

Sure if you can let me have a link I'l gladly check it out

[londonmystic]

[QUOTE]I have seen both types of craft, orbs of light types but also amazing physical metal ships. One was so low over my house and absolutely huge, like something from independence day. I saw every detail

TY to the OP and Marie for sharing. Have you filmed or photographed anything Marie? Also on my channel are numerous clips and I wonder if you could elaborate more on anything in them or help me understand more about the type. Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/user/whotookmymojo?ob=0

I've filmed lots of things over the years but sadly lost most, through laptop crashes, cameras breaking and different things. Anytime I've seen anything it's either a question of 'do I stay and watch, because sometimes they are very quick, or do I go grab a camera or go tell someone to come and look. Sometimes I've gone for the camera or shouted for someone else, and then I would miss it and it would disappear. So for a while now I've not worried about getting it on film unless I have one handy,I prefer to just watch. The night I saw the huge one I was at the window having a ciggarette, it was about 3am or just after that. And I first saw a small red light shoot across sky sky in front of me. I thought oh that was cool , and I thought come back you bastards and let me get something on film'. It was less than 2 minutes later when the huge one came over. I though damn, I called them bastards. I believe they read my thoughts. What I saw was out of this world and I was in awe and shock, I could just stare at it. I did actually grab my phone and thought I got about 3 minutes or so on vid. But afterwards playing it back, there was less than a second, with just 2 lights flying away overhead. It looked nothing like what I had seen. So either they came back for me to get the best footage ever, because it was huge and nothing like it anywhere, and I skrewed it up. Or they are just teasing me and didn't let me get it on film .

[londonmystic]

Filmed this the other day outside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC5GYzPzWPY

[meat suit]

Filmed this the other day outside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC5GYzPzWPY

nice Marie,.... me thinks chinese lanterns....
have you had any more encounters since?

cheers

meat

[londonmystic]

Yes im having continuous contact and Ive had some very positive memories back recently from a previous experience, lots of weird things happening

[londonmystic]

Dr Young-hae is from a prominant UK University,this thesis is on the relationship between Climate Change and ET Abduction. He includes startling figures on the demise of humanity, and features a stark warning from Marie Kayali, and what she was shown by the ETs she was taken by.
Given further impetus with the most recent data brought to the AMMACH and Bases series in reference to the Black Goo, and Sentient Fluid. Also see what Maria Gostova has been warned about. This contacts immediate data of extreme concern to humanity's future. Wake Up and Smell The Dam Coffee boys and girls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evNOZxycRp4


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[londonmystic]

It is with the most painful heavy heart that I must announce the sad loss of my beautiful talented daughter Gina , who was sadly taken from us on Friday 2nd Nov 2012 at 6.20 pm.
The funeral service will be taking place on Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 3.15pm at Mortlake Chapel and Cremetorium London.


http://twitpic.com/bbs7c9#.UJ1hBMyWlWR.twitter

[Corncrake]

Dear Marie - I am so sad to read of your tragic news. As a mother of an 18 year old daughter I cannot bear to imagine what you must be going through. I will think of you next week and and send you love and strength to get through this difficult time. Having lost some close friends and relatives over the years I do know that in time you will be able to enjoy the happy memories again .....

[Simon]

There are no words, written or otherwise, however i wanted you to know that you did everything that you thought was right, its others who will have to answer.
Simon


It is with the most painful heavy heart that I must announce the sad loss of my beautiful talented daughter Gina , who was sadly taken from us on Friday 2nd Nov 2012 at 6.20 pm.
The funeral service will be taking place on Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 3.15pm at Mortlake Chapel and Cremetorium London.


http://twitpic.com/bbs7c9#.UJ1hBMyWlWR.twitter

[Limor Wolf]

Dear Marie, words will do no justice. I am sorry to hear about your great loss, and know that your daughter is there with you ,in the space of love in your heart. Limor

[londonmystic]

Thank you all so much for the kind words and love and support. Everyone has been absolutely fantastic and I realised there is so much love about, there isn't a lot of evil , they definitly are the minority and we can overpower them if we stick together
Thank you all x

Oddly enough I used my daughters camera to take pics of family and friends yesterday and uploaded them today and found this odd one out of the blue and not sure when it was taken

http://twitpic.com/bdk0uz

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Marie, I think you are right and there is a lot more good out there, and it's growing every day, it can sure be quite intimidating for those who planned otherwise, tigers are in a position to attack when they are put into a corner. You are wonderful and brave lady, the power of the human spirit is the most frightening aspect for 'them'.
And showing our full emotions, whether it's sorrow or happiness is also the sign of our true connection with our own spirit, we better embrace it.

Can the photo be enlarged? quite interesting three red dots.

[londonmystic]

thank you for all that . This is the full screen version http://twitpic.com/bdk0uz/full

[Limor Wolf]

Rather a subject for interpretation, quite interesting.

[londonmystic]

Now my Twitter account @mariekayali has been 'suspended' for god knows what reason, email being hacked aswell so cant even communicate with some family and friends since the funeral

[Woody]

I am sorry to hear that londonmystic, stay strong.
Regards,
Woody

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Mary, They (whoever 'they' are) seem to be on your back. Is there anything we can do to help? have you tried Skype? different computure, etc? It must not be easy for you, in an understatement, please know that I keep you safe and protected in my thoughts.

[londonmystic]

Thank you all the the lovely kind words, it is much appreciated. Not sure how I'l get through this yet , I have to take each day as it comes, who knows what will happen next?

[Debra]

Know that the power of goodwill intention and protection is being directed your way right now Marie. I am glad that you are communicating with us here so we can keep 'an eye' on you during this time, especially this time.

Sending you some love beams:

http://www.recoverygraphics.com/albums/Plain_Images_2/Heart_Light.jpg

[Flash]

I am truly sorry for your loss knowing very well that I cannot truly understand how difficult it must be. My heart is truly with you Mary.

[Flash]

Mary, here avatar is Londonmystic, who has been a member of Avalon for a while, and who is also an abductee, lost her daughter. on the 9th of November. She writes mainly on the Ammach, multiple abductee Mary Kayali thread and it is where she would most probably see our messages. She later wrote about the funerals.

I think most of us Avalonians, were not aware of this (the support should have been pages and pages, which it wasn't).

So it is time still to show our heart and support in times of great tragedy.

The thread where she writes on, started by Jacovesk, is here

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44456-AMMACH-Multiple-Abductee-Marie-Kayali--Don-t-Miss-..-/page3

Thanks Avalonians

[fifi]

It is the most tragic thing that can happen to a parent - to survive their children. I can't imagine your sorrows, but will send my love, light, and positive energy your way. I hope time can heal your sorrows, knowing that your daughter is now in a better place.

Warmest Love,
Fifi

[eva08]

As Abraham would say: your daughter will help you more from the other side.... blessings --- she wants you to smile, and smile with her... well-being abounds

[Hermite]

I grieve for you, Marie, and hope you are finding some solace in knowing there are many of us out here sending you love. We are like the stars in daytime, just because you can't see us doesn't mean we're not here.

Remember to take care of yourself.

[Hermite]

For those who may not have seen this... back to the top.

[latshaw]

I just learned of your daughter Gina's passing. My heartfelt condolences to you and your family. May God give you peace, may your tears cleanse you, and may the beautiful memories of Gina always bring you comfort.

My sincerest and warmest regards,
Latshaw

[ulli]

Some physical losses, though painful at that level, only help to increase the bonds that can never be severed.
May this loss turn into pure light for you, Londonmystic.
I saw your daughter's picture and recognized the true London mystic immediately....you can be proud of her.

[Flash]

for those who did not know but would like to tell Mary a word, I am bumping

[mojo]

Thank you Flash for pointing this thread out and warmest wishes Marie.

[conk]

Dear woman, her loss is the world's loss. Love and blessings, Conk.

I will kiss my girls tonight and say a prayer for her sweet child.

[Flash]

Mary, check this thread, you have some more comments on it.

We are, as a whole, very sorry for you losing your beloved daughter.

Also, we are a very strong group of people here, so if any help is needed, just ask please. You would not imagine what can come your way in helping. To do so, you just start a thread asking for help.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52578-Mary-Kayali-lost-her-daughter--londonmystic---the-abductee-thread-

[Billy]

Condolences to you Mary. No words can express the loss of one of you're children. May she have a blessed journey on the other side of the doorway. Until you both meet again.

Peace be with you.

[RunningDeer]

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Special/Gina_framed2.jpg

Dear London Mystic,

I am so sorry for your loss. May Gina rest in peace. I send you healing energies and a harmonic environment for your journey.

My son passed when he was 23. These are some of the things I used to get through: time, rest, feel all in the deepest possible way you can, reach out to others, prayer/meditation whatever brings you solace.

Peace, Blessings and Continued Health,
Paula

PS Thank you, Flash, for bringing this to our attention.

It is with the most painful heavy heart that I must announce the sad loss of my beautiful talented daughter Gina , who was sadly taken from us on Friday 2nd Nov 2012 at 6.20 pm.
The funeral service will be taking place on Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 3.15pm at Mortlake Chapel and Cremetorium London.


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[Rocky_Shorz]

We should invite her to the village, and let her keep this thread for discussion on alien contact...

and no is unacceptable Mary

step in with the healers for a bit...

we're family here, your loss is ours...

[RunningDeer]

Thank you all so much for the kind words and love and support. Everyone has been absolutely fantastic and I realised there is so much love about, there isn't a lot of evil , they definitly are the minority and we can overpower them if we stick together
Thank you all x

Oddly enough I used my daughters camera to take pics of family and friends yesterday and uploaded them today and found this odd one out of the blue and not sure when it was taken

http://twitpic.com/bdk0uz

LondonMystic, I lightened and enlarged the photo you provided.


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[RunningDeer]

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Dear London Mystic,

I am so sorry for your loss. May Gina rest in peace.

My son passed when he was 23. Time, rest, reach out to others, prayer/meditation whatever brings you solace. These are some of the things I used to get through the journey.

Peace, Blessings and Continued Health,
Paula

PS Thank you, Flash, for bringing this to our attention.

It is with the most painful heavy heart that I must announce the sad loss of my beautiful talented daughter Gina , who was sadly taken from us on Friday 2nd Nov 2012 at 6.20 pm.
The funeral service will be taking place on Wednesday 14th November 2012 at 3.15pm at Mortlake Chapel and Cremetorium London.


http://twitpic.com/bbs7c9#.UJ1hBMyWlWR.twitter

[EsmaEverheart]

Marie,

I am so sorry for your loss. I just don't have words. I am sending you much love and comfort.

[Star Tsar]

Hoping your pain eases with time Mary...

[londonmystic]

This is a vid clip my daughter took outside her window, the same night I filmed it outside my house too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdjIRHAo7TM

[WanderingRogue]

I can't imagine how sad you must be. Sending good thoughts to you and yours.

[Flash]

I like her voice. She must have been quite up there with you Mary about the abductions.

Love to you both still, wherever you both are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdjIRHAo7TM

[Flash]

Mary's daughter taking ET's crafts videos in the sky of England.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdjIRHAo7TM

[Conaire]

I'm very sorry for your loss Marie. My thoughts are with you.

[Knowrainknowrainbows!]

As November yields to December I will think of you - one mother to another. I understand grief but not with the loss of a child.
I hope you feel the loving support of fellow Avalonians and may the energies comfort you now and uplift you soon.

Know Rain, Know Rainbows
No Rain, No Rainbows
Marci

[WanderingRogue]

Bump....Please send this family some extra love and warm wishes. I don't know them, but feel like they really need it right now.

[Grinner]

I, too, add my condolences. I'm so very sorry.

[Flash]

bump....................

[Vitalux]

My heart, sympathy and greatest condolences goes out to you Mary for the loss of your daughter.
I can't even being to imagine or understand the depths of your despair you must be feeling.

I pray that the great creator can help give you the strength and love to help you heal, understand, and continue to love those around you.

I wish you love

:hug:

[Czarek]

Most deepest and sincere condolences.
Czarek

[sleepy]

xxxx xxxxxx

[seko]

Very sorry to hear about your loss Mary, stay strong and lots of love to you!!

[seko]

Lots of love to you Londonmystic and remember you have more family here in Avalon!

[Tane Mahuta]

I'm sorry I missed the post...thankyou flash. I'm sorry.

Heartfelt sorrow "londonmystic"

TM

[Jules]

I Thought of You Today
I thought of you with love today but that is nothing new
I thought about you yesterday and days before that too,
I think of you in silence I often speak your name
All I have are memories and your picture in a frame
Your memory is my keepsake with which I’ll never part
God has you in His keeping I have you in my heart.

[Guest]

A feather for you and your daughter


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May you both have peace



Love


Nora

[mosquito]

I have no words, just a feeling in my heart for you.
Philip

[lookbeyond]

Dear londonmystic,
i can only imagine your pain, i send peace to both of you,

love, lookbeyond

[markpierre]

One of the toughest passages we'll ever allow ourselves to travel. No, the toughest. God bless you for your willingness.
You're daughter won't leave you until you're well again. It's her way. So lets wish you a quick journey to wellness.
She would like that. She will help you.

Kind regards. mark

[Flash]

Bumping again for those Avalonians that are week end visitors only.

[londonmystic]

Thank you all so much. My daughter was murdered and now the police are trying to cover it up so I'm arguing with them every day, but I won't let it be brushed under the carpet like everything else, even if it ends up killing me too

[Flash]

Thank you all so much. My daughter was murdered and now the police are trying to cover it up so I'm arguing with them every day, but I won't let it be brushed under the carpet like everything else, even if it ends up killing me too

thanks very much, some of us were wondering what happened.

If you think it may help to tell us what you believe happened, just do it, if it is to protect you in any ways. And help in any way. If not, we do understand too. I had caught something from Simon post going into this direction that you say.

I am truly with you from all my heart.

Love

Flash

[Knowrainknowrainbows!]

Murder? My thoughts are that you surround yourself with trusted loving friends and talk freely with them. Take care of your physical needs, londonmystic. The road ahead is painful I know ... I pray you will have wise council and strategy in all your certainly rightful inquiries.

I offer, too, an energy blanket intent of safety, health, and comfort as each need arises.

Courage and Peace ...
KRKR

[londonmystic]

MY daughter was poisoned and drugged and jumped from a building ten minutes after receiving a phone call , I only left her for 2 minutes to collect a package downstairs with the porter. We had alot of trouble for about 6 weeks leading up to it being followed and such. There are plenty of complaints, 31 calls in fact in the space of 3 weeks , to the police about one particular person who has now vanished it seems.

My Twitter account is now working so I use that more with current info https://twitter.com/MarieKayali

[Ruby L.]

Dear Marie,

I feel so deeply for your loss. To have had your daughter taken (in such dark circumstances, too) is life-shattering. But, to have to now also fight for a proper investigation into her death... I imagine it must take up all your remaining strength-- but, at the same time, fuel you on even more.

I've lit a candle for Gina, and keep you and her in my prayers and thought.


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Apache Tears

[londonmystic]

Thank you all so much. The love and wishes from people who I don't even know is overwhelming and restores some of the faith I had lost in mankind x thank you all

[londonmystic]

Any legal advice in negligence against police or medical, please get in touch, much appreciated thanks x

[Flash]

Mary, you could surely get help for this, I would suggest that you make a specific thread asking for help.

For this, you go on forum, general discussion, at the top you will see a button to create a thread, push on it, put your title with help in it and then your text, then submit.

So that people will see your demand easily.

I hope you will get what you need, as a Canadian, the laws aren't the same here, so I cannot do much.

[londonmystic]

Went to stay with family for a couple of days and on my return I found this notice given out to all residents . Flat 87 is mine, just thought it was a bit strange and a sort of a threat in a way.

http://twitpic.com/bjqcvi

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated

[Limor Wolf]

Marie Kyalie is one of the bravest persons, she is also a starseed and as such she forms a threat to the PTB, many of us apperantly do, just by being ourselves. She seems to be constantly threatened, she payed dearly with the passing away of her daughter and they still continue to harass her. The very faulty thing they do not understand is that this state of mind of ours can't be stopped, whatever they do, however they inhance it, now we know what is going on and pay very close attention to the parts of Marie's story, connecting the dots even further, understanding even further how they prefer to operate and even more determind to let all others know. This can not and will not be silenced, too greater force. I am sorry to see that Marie has retired from the forum and hope she will reinstate herself. I will do all I can to follow her story, I think it is excellent she is now coming forward with all the details of what has and is really happening, brave brave lady and fellow soul, let her be protected!

A new interview with Marie Kyalie with Ammach, two parts:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAvrCA8-qA&list=UUcfXFZOH4_ekFlavUeq8hEQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dYFi7O4zVs&list=UUcfXFZOH4_ekFlavUeq8hEQ&index=2

[sunflower]

Hi Limor, thanks for posting Marie K.'s latest videos. Brave lady indeed! Perhaps she might be inclined to post on Simon's thread.

[Flash]

Thanks Limor,

This is a very good interview, really. It completely demonsttate what it is to be with total narcissists and psychopaths on one hand, and it demonstrate that the psychopathic faction is a very organised one. I wonder what they were preparing her for. Either sexual slave or satanic ritual, I bet. Either way, as sad as it is, she may have made the right choice.

This is soooooo sad. And sooo powerful. It seems that those that have been taken many times do have to protect themselves and their families. This is heart wrenching.

If I have ever been taken, I do not remember at all, therefore I think I haven't. But if I were and do not remembre, I am almost glad about that.

Marie, I am very very sorry for your loss.

[Spiral]

This is now set to be a four parter.

d7Fd989wSV0


Published on Jan 29, 2013

Marie gets down to the final moments of her daughter's life, in what is highly dubious circumstances. She is highly dis-satisfied with various official bodies, and she makes her version of events clear. A fourth part is in work, as she has further issues to raise and update.
The extent and widespread infilitration of gang stalkers and associated satanic and nefarious groups are almost certainly involved.

[Spiral]

Thanks Limor,

This is a very good interview, really. It completely demonstrates what it is to be with total narcissists and psychopaths on one hand, and it demonstrate that the psychopathic faction is a very organised one. I wonder what they were preparing her for. Either sexual slave or satanic ritual, I bet. Either way, as sad as it is, she may have made the right choice.

I think this is far darker & stranger than rape or ritual.

From what Marie has said about her own experiences & her daughters abilities its not too much of a stretch that Gina had to be "shut down", there is a battle for this planet going on, and its not one of guns & bombs.

The illuminati know all too well how things are "brought down" into this realm, and want a total monopoly on it, in effect hijacking Creation its self.

Those beings that have incarnated here from elsewhere to address this problem and are deemed to be a threat are hunted down, often MILABed.

Then torture & mindcontrol techniques are employed to put the abilities in "alters" not accessible by the individual, but can be used by the illuminate to their own ends.



This is soooooo sad. And sooo powerful. This is heart wrenching.


Marie, I am very very sorry for your loss.

It absolutely is, on so many levels, and for all of us. The planet is a poorer place.

Thank you Marie for having the courage to tell the world.

[Star Tsar]

Yes I hope with all my being that one day you can have the piece of mind that you deserve Marie,
Once our fight is finished and the truth is free that is, I don't believe you will have that until it is.

And that fact saddens me deeply as I am a parent and I can honestly say that is the only thing I fear right now on this planet.

[Corncrake]

Have just spent the afternoon watching all three videos - thanks everyone for posting. I found the original Ammach abduction videos fascinating and these no less interesting but utterly tragic as well. I am so so sorry for Marie's loss. Many of her comments about her daughter I can identify with - having a loving and creative daughter of 19 myself who is also in an 'unsuitable' relationship (at least from my perspective). I am sure I would not have had the courage to sit before a camera and describe in detail the pain of those last months. I am now following Marie on Twitter but do hope that she feels able to re-join the forum soon.

[4evrneo]

When Marie said in first video about how she could feel them coming, the wave and the body vibration and then feeling paralized, really hit home for me ! I have had these same feelings several times when I was in my 20's. I always thought they were either evil spirits and then later thought they were the OBE's but sometimes I am not so sure after hearing this interview.

Here is a pic of the only time I have seen UFO's and captured them on my camera. btw, I didnt see them until after I took the pic. I was taking a pic of the clouds coming from a storm.

20214

there are 4 orbs

Annette

[4evrneo]

When I first posted I had only watched the first video....now after watching the others and learning of the tragic events that unfolded I am deeply saddened for Marie's loss.

I too am a mother who worries about her daughter, now 25. Although no experiences like these, she is fragile and easily depressed, and has many thoughts about suicide.

I send many prayers and blessings Marie,

Annette

[Limor Wolf]

We all deserve to rest in peace, don't we? I too send best of energies to Marie, and to your daughter, Annette, and to you. This planet deserves better, and she will recieve.

[Star Tsar]

Yeah well what will these COWARDS receive?
These sods are ruining everything for everyone and getting away with it and most folks are even aware.
I cannot express the feeling of the pure IRE that is sitting in my chest right now

:boom:

[Debra]

I have created this separate thread from the Ammach interview series with Marie because this final part 3 installment is very important to keep in the public view.

It is an excellent interview conducted by Miles Johnston as part of his Bases series.

It is very brave of Marie Kayali to bring such explosive evidence forward so soon after her daughter's death in November last year and before the coronial inquest.

I was in contact with her before Xmas and she flagged very clearly with me then that the circumstances leading to Gina's decline and death were highly suspicious and that she was already battling the system to get justice moving, while dealing with her grief as a mother at the same time.

Unfortunately, Marie believes that she does not have long herself now and says so in this interview. Her resolve and determination however to out the perpertrators and expose the circumstances behind her daughter's decline and death keep her going.

I hope you make the time to view this living case of one woman up against the powers that be and share it far and wide.

d7Fd989wSV0

[Debra]

Just to refresh, here are the first two parts of this latest interview. Number 3 was released a couple of days afterwards and first posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44456-AMMACH-Multiple-Abductee-Marie-Kayali--Don-t-Miss-..-&p=625783&viewfull=1#post625783) on the main thread. Again, I would like to step up the support to keep this story on the radar.

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[Bill Ryan]

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Many thanks, Debra -- can you possibly summarize Marie's story for those not fully familiar with it?

[Debra]

Hi Bill, sure.

Briefly, Marie started having recall and connecting dots to a lifetime of abduction. Her life has been pretty much controlled - in one way or another - by entities, which have also been positive experiences as well.

Her story took an even more curious turn when she married into an affluent Syrian family, from which Gina was born. The father of her now former husband was highly connected with the likes of Henry Kissinger for example.

Last November, after months of her daughter continuing a relationship with this guy who Marie did not trust from the word go, started to reveal that she was in a very strange, controlling and abusive situation This guy actually appeared out of nowhere virtually and took over her life. And it seems, poisoned her and the strange thing is, he seems beyond the law and ex military as well ...

Cheers

[Bill Ryan]

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Thanks -- got the picture. Gina was considered to be 'owned' in some way. This is far more common than one might realize.

[Star Tsar]

I found Marie's testimony very upsetting.
But she did such an excellent job may I say.

[Debra]

What was really quite shocking is how the mental health facility treated Gina (or rather, didn't treat her) after she was sectioned after the poisoning.

According to Marie, Gina was suddenly sectioned while her mother took respite for a few hours after holding vigil at the hospital. According to Marie, it was clear that her daughter was in a bad way, yet they went against Marie's wishes that this guy not be let near her daughter while she was being held there.

However, after she was finally released - it seems that he still got to her.
The finer details and sequence of events are better told by Marie in this final interview. These are just points that bounced up at me.

I am curious to know more about her being ''owned'' Bill .. that has got me thinking.

[Debra]

I was also shocked to learn that the police would not allow Marie to go to her daughter - who was apparently still alive after the ''jump'' out of the window.

Heck, just the fact that Marie was gone for a couple of minutes to retrieve a parcel from the doorman and then this all happened, after it appeared that her daughter was getting better (getting back to something normal).

Very strange indeed.

[Bill Ryan]

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For all those interested, Marie Kayali has just applied for forum membership. We will very probably fast-track her through -- but not enough of the mods have had a chance yet to have a look at her application. It's definitely her, and we'll be delighted to welcome her here.

[Carmody]

syrian coptic?

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

---Voltaire

[Limor Wolf]

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For all those interested, Marie Kayali has just applied for forum membership. We will very probably fast-track her through -- but not enough of the mods have had a chance yet to have a look at her application. It's definitely her, and we'll be delighted to welcome her here.

Many thanks, Bill, Marie was a member of Avalon until recently, she asked to retire after her daughter's Gina's death, We managed to hear a litte bit from her and tried to support her, she is a real remarkable and brave lady, and she belong here especially now, Please do what you can to get her back in the forum if possible. Thank you : )

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44456-AMMACH-Multiple-Abductee-Marie-Kayali--Don-t-Miss-..-&p=591726&viewfull=1#post591726

[Tangri]

What was really quite shocking is how the mental health facility treated Gina (or rather, didn't treat her) after she was sectioned after the poisoning.

According to Marie, Gina was suddenly sectioned while her mother took respite for a few hours after holding vigil at the hospital. According to Marie, it was clear that her daughter was in a bad way, yet they went against Marie's wishes that this guy not be let near her daughter while she was being held there.

However, after she was finally released - it seems that he still got to her.
The finer details and sequence of events are better told by Marie in this final interview. These are just points that bounced up at me.

I am curious to know more about her being ''owned'' Bill .. that has got me thinking.

"I am curious to know more about her being ''owned'' Bill .. that has got me thinking"

Because of her father

[Star Tsar]

Many thanks, Bill, Marie was a member of Avalon until recently, she asked to retire after her daughter's Gina's death, We managed to hear a litte bit from her and tried to support her, she is a real remarkable and brave lady, and she belong here especially now, Please do what you can to get her back in the forum if possible. Thank you : )




Hey Limor, actually a bit more to it has Marie was also put off by the WEIRD behaviour of a particular Avalon member. :loco:
Which obviously does not help her to feel safe tell us her truth!
I have pointed out things are changing here and that she would be welcome back with open arms.
I for one hopes she heeds my plea and returns.

[Debra]

I am curious to know more about her being ''owned'' Bill .. that has got me thinking.

"I am curious to know more about her being ''owned'' Bill .. that has got me thinking"

Because of her father

That could be the case Woody but i am not so sure. From what Marie has indicated to me personally, I don't think this is the case .. there are other details about who came into Marie's life leading up to this tragic event that I wonder if they are connected. Sorry to be ambiguous here but I am not going to post the actual detail of what I am referring to because it was relayed in private. And for good reason too. However, I leave this to Marie to tell .. She is still dot connecting herself. And by the way, she is very thankful for the support on here .. Was chatting with her earlier today. Hope she comes on soon. She finished taping Part 4 with Miles Johnson yesterday.

KWB we talked about that Avalon member and told her she was trouble for others too. I said that I am sure that Bill will ensure that thread conduct with her in future will be kept in order .. Engaging and respectful like it is with Simon Parkes. This is so important. To keep the conversation in dialogue, on topic and investigative.

[Star Tsar]

Apologies Zebra & Avalon I was unaware of that fact.

:eek::eek::tape::tape::o:o

[Debra]

Apologies Zebra & Avalon I was unaware of that fact.

:eek::eek::tape::tape::o:o

Well you were right KWB .. Just affirming that fact. I had no idea that that member was making it uncomfortable for her outside the thread. Marie just made me aware if it today.

[Spiral]

Being owned is usually when you are born into a program, which is not the impression I got from these interviews.

In ancient times they were well aware of the very special children that could be produced by certain Middle Eastern bloodlines & certain bloodlines found on the British Isles, (this is being done by more than one "party".)

The sense I got from the interviews is that Gina was a very gifted "starseed", one of those who are here to help, and for that reason was suicided before she could "come into her own" in a very "British" manner.

Drugs, psy-ops & mental hospitals are common features of the demise of those who are a threat in the UK, eg; Rik Clay etc

[Bill Ryan]

Apologies Zebra & Avalon I was unaware of that fact.

:eek::eek::tape::tape::o:o

Well you were right KWB .. Just affirming that fact. I had no idea that that member was making it uncomfortable for her outside the thread. Marie just made me aware of it today.

Many thanks for the update. The member who gave Marie a hard time when she was last here is no longer a member of the forum. It's our job to make sure the forum is safe for anyone, especially experiencers like Marie with important and sensitive stories, to post without feeling harassed. Whatever happened when she was last here, I will see personally that it does not happen again.

[Debra]

Being owned is usually when you are born into a program, which is not the impression I got from these interviews.

In ancient times they were well aware of the very special children that could be produced by certain Middle Eastern bloodlines & certain bloodlines found on the British Isles, (this is being done by more than one "party".)

The sense I got from the interviews is that Gina was a very gifted "starseed", one of those who are here to help, and for that reason was suicided before she could "come into her own" in a very "British" manner.

Drugs, psy-ops & mental hospitals are common features of the demise of those who are a threat in the UK, eg; Rik Clay etc

That is what I understood as well Spiral. Yet the coming together of Marie and her husband adds another layer to this. Was it premeditated? And how and why has Marie survived all this time as well because she too is gifted.

And even mainstream tv is set to do an interview with her .. Tv4

Is it disclosure?

[Spiral]

Being owned is usually when you are born into a program, which is not the impression I got from these interviews.

In ancient times they were well aware of the very special children that could be produced by certain Middle Eastern bloodlines & certain bloodlines found on the British Isles, (this is being done by more than one "party".)

The sense I got from the interviews is that Gina was a very gifted "starseed", one of those who are here to help, and for that reason was suicided before she could "come into her own" in a very "British" manner.

Drugs, psy-ops & mental hospitals are common features of the demise of those who are a threat in the UK, eg; Rik Clay etc

That is what I understood as well Spiral. Yet the coming together of Marie and her husband adds another layer to this. Was it premeditated? And how and why has Marie survived all this time as well because she too is gifted.

And even mainstream tv is set to do an interview with her .. Tv4

Is it disclosure?

Marie certainly seemed to say she thought some "hand" was steering fate when she met her husband, such things are guided by positive forces as well as the usual negative ones, my guess at why she is still alive is that she is a clever and aware person, she may also be of use to "them".

Who really knows whats going on with the whole MILAB thing, its certainly a lot deeper than hybrids.

What country does Tv4 broadcast in & what type of things do they normally transmit ? That might answer the "disclosure" question.

[Debra]

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What country does Tv4 broadcast in & what type of things do they normally transmit ? That might answer the "disclosure" question.

Hi, it is Channel 4 in Britain, i keep registering it as tv4 .. Sorry. And Marie adds, to be clear, it won't only be a broadcast interview with her. It is a doco being planned. There is to be 3 or 4 ppl in it. AMMACH is involved as well, they are planning a couple of instalments. It is very interesting to know this is underway.

In her own words to clarify, Marie just messaged me this: "....Just been readng the thread, its channel 4 doing the doc and its not really about me theres 3 or 4 ppl in it. They are planning a couple so i think its a year for disclosure .. ammach are in the doc as well. It's about new cases and no support .. and then ammach came and so many people coming forward .. so it is disclosure and ammach are being strict about how it is all presented."

[GoodETxSG]

Thanks Bill, This should be a safe place. At times people have popped in and caused consternation similar to what caused the downfall of other blogs/sites... (ATS comes to mind). This should be a safe place. I am glad you and the moderators spend the time to examine the applications for membership. There are SO many Gov and Non Gov groups that train people to infiltrate communities like this and plant seeds of strife and division. I know some of them are just people that need to be on their medications but I know first hand about the trained infiltrators that discredit or upset people that are sharing info THEY deem "Taboo" for the rest of us to hear.
Please KEEP IT UP... and weed those blog drones out the best you can.
Thank you,

[Debra]

Good news about TV production with UK station - Channel 4

All contracts, conditions and agreements - particularly in relation to the finer details of framing and presenting a sensitive documentary for TV about disclosure of ET abduction experiences - has been signed.

Marie Kayali will begin filming her portion as a key witness and experiencer with Channel 4 under the wings of AMMACH on March 4. The whole project - to be a one hour documentary - will be filmed over a five week period.

Additional notice for UK members

Marie Kayali is also joining the AMMACH team for a spring conference - Experiencers Up Close & Personal - in central Nottingham on April 6th at the Belgrave Rooms. More details are to follow. For those wanting to follow or attend, here is the AMMACH UK website (http://www.ammach.co.uk)

Best wishes all,
Debra

[Star Tsar]

Great isn't it? Ammach/Bases getting their big break due to their hard endeavour just beautiful!

:cheer2::cheer2::bounce::bounce::nod::nod::whoo::whoo:

[EsmaEverheart]

I hope that Marie comes back. Her story is extremely important! That is what I am getting from this interview. I am going to be praying for much protection to be around her.

[4evrneo]

I too have been sending her protection since I first saw the videos recently.

Her courage is inspiring and her story is important for all experiencers.

[Earth Angel]

I watched the three parts of the January interview last night, then went back and watched some of the 2011 interview.......its very sad to see her saying she doesn't expect to be here much more than 3 months.......I am a bit confused on the rh negative, she stated here on one of the threads that she and her husband have the 0 negative blood factor, but then in the interview last night she said she was positive and her daughter was negative.

[Earth Angel]

I have just noticed that Marie Kayali is now a member of the forum again.....WELCOME back to you Marie. We are so happy to have you here, and so very sorry for your loss. Slainte, Earth Angel

[Earth Angel]

Marie is now a member of Avalon again......looking forward to hearing from her

Welcome Marie

[Woody]

Welcome back Marie,
You are a very brave lady

Regards,
Woody

[Debra]

Part 4 now available... Marie Kayali states her evidence on how the death of her daughter WAS an illuminati hit
Released February 7th
Zb7Rou4Lhpo

[Limor Wolf]

Zebra, Thank you very much for posting, I am about to watch the 4th part now.

Earth Angel, I still see londonmystic appears as a retired member and can not find another name that resemble 'Marie Kyali', is Marie really back on the forum? , I would love to know

~ Limor

[westhill]

syrian coptic?

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

---Voltaire


Few things stop me in my tracks. The above quote is one of them.
Here's an early welcome to Marie.

[Earth Angel]

Yes Limor , she is back under the name Marie Kayali....however when I do a search of the that name I can't find her.......it was on the welcome to new members one day.......I have found her profile page in the past, no picture and you cannot send her a PM but you can email her. I will look now for it again and see what I can find
update
I can't find her profile now, but it was there when listed in the New Members on the home page a week ago......not sure why, but you could not message her at that time but there was an email contact. Hope she is still with us.

[Gardener]

Perhaps it would be respectful if attention wasn't fucused on her at this time.

[Earth Angel]

since Marie is recording these video's in January of this year, two months after Gina's death, I don't think that is what she would want


Perhaps it would be respectful if attention wasn't fucused on her at this time.

[HaveBlue]

Part 5, final of Maries' Bases 19 is up on YT now.

[Debra]

Part 5, final of Maries' Bases 19 is up on YT now.

Thanks HaveBlue .. here it is. Watching it now.

e1l7TSpOkTA

Marie says she will pop in soon. Every bit of support to bring awareness to her story and to the untimely death of Gina is greatly appreciated by Marie. So guys, she is very aware of your messages on the forum and very moved by the support you are giving.

Hopefully she can come on and chat with us soon.

Thanks all, Debra

[creative_expansion]

marie is truly amazing, my heart goes out to her and all she has been through, to anybody who hasn't seen her interviews i highly recommend to watch them, they are captivating. anyways she added two parts to the bases interview the interview she did after her the death of her daughter. she reveals more of her story and concludes the interview, i watched on youtube.

[Earth Angel]

Not sure what happened to Marie.......I definitely saw her as a new member listed at the beginning of February.....looked at her profile and you could not do anything but email her......a few days later it was gone......where did she go?? Paul or Bill ?? anybody know if she has left us again??

[ThePythonicCow]

Not sure what happened to Marie.......I definitely saw her as a new member listed at the beginning of February.....looked at her profile and you could not do anything but email her......a few days later it was gone......where did she go?? Paul or Bill ?? anybody know if she has left us again??

We accepted her application one month ago. She has logged on since then, but not posted.

Here is her user profile page: marie kayali (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?15389-marie-kayali).

[Corncrake]

Two more recent interviews with Marie regarding implants recorded with Ammach at the 2013 International UFO Congress:

gCRIvgA0NLM

fLbh7XqEIMA

[KellyNUTS]

I salute Marie Kayali, such a brave soul to come out and speak about what has happened to her and her family.

[Star Tsar]

A poolside chat with some wonderful ladies @ the 22nd International UFO Congress Fort McDowell, Phoenix Arizona!

oYBM5u3-jKA

[creative_expansion]

she did two more interviews, i spoke with her earlier, the last two parts to the interview.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb7Rou4Lhpo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1l7TSpOkTA

[Debra]

she did two more interviews, i spoke with her earlier, the last two parts to the interview.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb7Rou4Lhpo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1l7TSpOkTA

Hi creative _expansion

The links you have posted here of parts 4 and 5 are already on this thread .. just above your post. I am wondering if you have newer vids and have posted these mistakenly. Otherwise, they are certainly worth bumping - Parts 1-5.

There are a couple of videos that Marie appears in during her trip to the ufo conference in Arizona earlier this month .. where she undergoes a scan for implants. Great technology and the results were intriguing:

gCRIvgA0NLM

and part 2

fLbh7XqEIMA

[HaveBlue]

Ammach Spring Conf 2013 Marie Kayali posted on YT April 22.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6oeXU_Bduw

The light beings she speaks of at about 23 mins, I have seen myself!

[marie kayali]

Thank you all so much for all the support. I am posting my talk at the Ammach conference.
If anyone would like to add me on facebook where I have updates on investigations , which have turned out to have so many strange twists already.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=537990485&ref=tn_tnmn


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6oeXU_Bduw

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/o6oeXU_Bduw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Star Tsar]

Marie appeared on Coast to Coast 15/5/2013 along with Miles & Joanne from Ammach & Bases respectively

For all who would like to listen

6dqinSNgl7g

:peace:

[marie kayali]

on tonight with Joanne Summerscales and Marie Kayali talking about anomolisk experiences http://criticalmassradio.co.uk/ 6pm to 7.45pm

Critical Mass Radio - "Now it's our turn"
criticalmassradio.co.uk

Should be a good show

[Gardener]

Thanks Marie :) I caught the last forty minutes luckily, nice to listen live.

[marie kayali]

Dissappoiningly the doc has been turned into a farce as we expected and it's made us a laughing stock with mental trauma issues. Another example of suppression after assurance and lies to the contrary

[eva08]

Dissappoiningly the doc has been turned into a farce as we expected and it's made us a laughing stock with mental trauma issues. Another example of suppression after assurance and lies to the contrary
Marie - beings of pure heart would never laugh at this information; thank you for standing up and speaking out. With gratitude

[creative_expansion]

just to clarify her name is marie, she is a good friend of mine and its really sweet of everybody to take the time out to reply to this forum. i hate seeing her name wrong, lol just had to fix it!

[Christine]

just to clarify her name is marie, she is a good friend of mine and its really sweet of everybody to take the time out to reply to this forum. i hate seeing her name wrong, lol just had to fix it!

Thanks creative expansion... just saw your post. Her name is now correct. Taking a moment to send my prayers to Marie, somehow I missed this when it happen.

[Limor Wolf]

I applaud Marie for how she is taking everything that happens in her life. She is a role model

[Observer1964]

http://i7.glitter-graphics.org/pub/2000/2000777wmencgwnbf.gif

[soleil]

very sorry for your loss, :(

[marie kayali]

Complete two hour polygraph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYcUVVGxAe8

[marie kayali]

I think its probably best to delete this entire thread as all my vids have now been deleted so the links are all dead , thanks

[Jake]

Thread closed at request of Marie, per last post. Many thanks for the kind words for Marie. And a thank you to Jacko in advance for being the amazing type of member who would support Marie in this one.

[creative_expansion]

Marie Kayali New Interview Planet X Radio Tony Topping
My great friend marie kayali live now on planet x radio listen everybody, live now, really great stuff
http://planetxlive.co.uk/planetxplayer.html


Tony discusses in view of the Snowden Affair harassment by a hidden secret state using technology that,goes beyond electronic eavesdropping Tony was subjected to harassment of a most unorthodox kind including overt stalking and filming by a helicopter.

He is joined by guest Marie Kayali who appeared in Confessions of an,Alien Abductee a Channel 4 about the work of AMMACH Tony also explains,how at the same time he was approached by Channel 4 her documentary caused much controversy the real Marie Kayali not portrayed by the cameras has a very interesting story to tell of a unique family history and implants, listeners will,hear a form NSA scientist speaking to Whitley Strieber about the symptoms of implants.
Tony discusses in view of the Snowden Affair harassment by a hidden secret state using technology that,goes beyond electronic eavesdropping Tony was subjected to harassment of a most unorthodox kind including overt stalking and filming by a helicopter.


Marie is also working with a doctor and professor of philosophy who is working with David Jacobs and also being trained by Jacobs. They are doing regression sessions on her very soon so she will have lots of more updates coming very exciting things!! I will post, with her approval, any information she would like to share publicly.

[Kristin]

Thank you for the link.
From the Heart,
Kristin

[creative_expansion]

Marie Kayali New Interview Planet X Radio Tony Topping
My great friend marie kayali live now on planet x radio listen everybody, live now, really great stuff
http://planetxlive.co.uk/planetxplayer.html


Tony discusses in view of the Snowden Affair harassment by a hidden secret state using technology that,goes beyond electronic eavesdropping Tony was subjected to harassment of a most unorthodox kind including overt stalking and filming by a helicopter.

He is joined by guest Marie Kayali who appeared in Confessions of an,Alien Abductee a Channel 4 about the work of AMMACH Tony also explains,how at the same time he was approached by Channel 4 her documentary caused much controversy the real Marie Kayali not portrayed by the cameras has a very interesting story to tell of a unique family history and implants, listeners will,hear a form NSA scientist speaking to Whitley Strieber about the symptoms of implants.
Tony discusses in view of the Snowden Affair harassment by a hidden secret state using technology that,goes beyond electronic eavesdropping Tony was subjected to harassment of a most unorthodox kind including overt stalking and filming by a helicopter.


Marie is also working with a doctor and professor of philosophy who is working with David Jacobs and also being trained by Jacobs. They are doing regression sessions on her very soon so she will have lots of more updates coming very exciting things!! I will post, with her approval, any information she would like to share publicly.

[Jake]

I have been waiting for this one!! Thank you C.E. And Marie,, if you are reading.. YOU GET EM!! :) Love to you.

Jake.

[creative_expansion]

awesome, we speak daily so i checked with her and she was cool with me posting her interview live now ill put the recording up on my youtube etc, all over really.

[Kristin]

Weird, i thanked this earlier and replied, but it didn't take... hmmm. Thank you again for the link. Listening right now!

From the Heart,
Kristin

[creative_expansion]

i made two threads lol sorry if i confused u :) ill load the entirety of it i have the file and im putting on my youtube channel also

[ThePythonicCow]

i made two threads lol sorry if i confused u :)
I merged the two threads into this one thread.

All is well, and thanks for posting this!

[creative_expansion]

this is the link the first is most likely dead that was the live one, i loaded on one of my youtube channels here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmuPDHRU6Q so if anybody missed it they can catch it there :)

[creative_expansion]

HEY GUYS YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WONDERING ABOUT JOANNE SUMMERSCALES HAS TO SAY WELL HERE IT IS, SHE HAS FINALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THE ENTIRE SITUATION.


The end of Miles Johnston…insights/updates
To those who would like to know about Mr Johnston

I feel it is time that I put in the people in the picture….

I thought I would update you about what Miles has been up to in recent times, particularly in respect of causing damage to Ammach and trying to cause me harm and damage through defamatory and in all probability libelous behaviour.

Just a bit of background (and do feel free to pass on to whomsovever you wish to) – this is to clarify my position and that of Ammach, in case you are unaware of the strange and bizarre behaviours of my now (thank god), ex colleague Miles Johnston.

For about 18 months it is now clear that Miles has been sabotaging Ammach from the inside – and doing quite a job as I didnt realise for quite a while either, until others reported to me concerns about his strange and bizarre behaviours, his irrational outbursts of temper. These seemed to begin from the time of serious interest from the media about Ammach. Some believe that his behaviours are initiated by jealousy and are like that of a spurned individual – I think in hindsight it might stem from that fact that his work on bases for 20 years has been without any interest from mainstream media and be at the root of it, and cheeky Ammach at only 15 months old was attracting it in bucket loads. It could also relate to the fact that he was into porn – never easy to be around, because he had it on his computer when I was around to do filming or editing, but I do think, all judgement aside, that this sort of murky energy can leave a person open to darker elements. Below is a summary of some of his behaviours:
During his time with Ammach Mile’s behaviour would range from irrational outburst/explosions of temper/anger, based on nothing that I could tell, to outright bullying and constantly trying to take over the project.
He frequently threatened not turning up for filming, especially during both conferences, he was aggressive and unpleasant, with bouts of calm. It was like being around an alcoholic, and I think that this may be part of his problem.
Unbeknownst to me he was also virtually stalking people whom I had interviewed (women only of course), with upsetting and personal calls/mails and texts, and would not stop even when challenged to do so. He would make inappropriate comments to female interviewees, and he was always making sexual inuendos around me whatever we were doing (I assure you that this was stricly a work relationship).
Once the Channel 4 documentary film making was underway – he extended this stalking behaviour to the production team, calling all times of the night. I had no idea he was doing all of this, until they called me up, very concerned about his behaviour they reported that he was behaving like someone very unbalanced. Unfortunately, with filming underway, it was impossible for them to do anything other than ‘manage’ the situation. He would tell production staff that dreadful things would now start happening to them (honestly, you couldnt make this up)!
During the filming he constantly harrassed both of the women who appeared (let me be clear also on the point of people participating in the documentary - they did it as individuals making a choice to take part or no, and I had zero to do with the outcome of either their filmed appearance or the outcome).
He called me one day, to say his lunch was being disturbed by one of the women who was threatening suicide (so bad was the harassment), and he told me we had a ‘situation’ – I spent an hour on the phone with this lady, I was absolutely shocked and more than concerned that anyone could cause such distress, to the point that she couldn’t take things any more. She felt so ill with his refusal to stop badgering her that she felt pushed to the edge…it escalated to her ex husband telling Miles to stop what he was doing…so Miles has been undermining the well being and direction of Ammach for a long time…can this all be just down to jealousy?
Earlier in the year he took down all the videos from youtube, so none were available on a power/ego trip - I had completely trusted him with all elements of the video side, expecting us to be working together for time to come, but now realised that he would not be satisfied until he had taken control of Ammach. I had given him complete control of all video making, uploading and editing work, and he took advantage, creating a situation whereby he was solely in charge….since then I knew there was no possibility of working together further. I could not know he was causing so much trouble and damage. From the very early days, his behaviour was clearly ‘seen’ by others with vision I dont have, and on several occasions, I was warned of a traitor in the camp, and to be careful….but I had no idea they meant Miles, because at that time,I was managing things and couldn’t believe they meant him. It just didn’t make sense, at least I didn’t see the signals then.
His behaviour got so strange and belligerent that I had to cut all contact, refusing to have anything further to do with him. He emailed me to say that he knew he was off the project – but not before he wrote a bizarre email saying that there was a sex dossier on him !!! and that he was ‘cut to the bone’!! that he was going to be exposed. Needless to say whether he has made porn films or not, I can assure the world that the last thing in my world that I would want is seeing Miles in a porn flick….
Since the aring of the documentary – which in my view was dreadful, (but created some very positive contacts and responses) – he has embarked on a campaign defaming me, starting with the ridiculous, saying that I am a reptilian – and then going on to infer that I am not safe around children – Of course I was promoting the Ammach-Chex element of the work (Chex = Child Experiencer) as I have spoken to some parents over time…and further crazy things….he is continuing to peddle bizarre, false and utterly ridiculous things about me – and putitng them out on youtube. Oh, I think he said I would never get a CRB check (if he knows what that is) – I have had one for a long time, and still do!
I was alerted that he was due to speak about Ammach at the St Annes conference – which is now nothing to do with him…so I contacted Sam, the organiser to tell him what Miles is doing and that as he is no longer involved with Ammach, he is not allowed to speak about Ammach, and Sam duly passed this on…I shall ensure that I attend on Sunday to hear what he has to say.
I consider Miles to be mirroring what he is putting out – this kind of transference is not uncommon, either that or he is an infiltrator, mentally challenged, or all of the above, one thing is for certain, I will not let him near vulnerable people, especially women, with his predatory behaviours.
Since he has been off the project, Ammach has had incredible things developing, which will be coming in the near future, it is as if now the dark energy is gone, a whole range of collaborations and contacts have come forward in an unprecedented way, and it is really a very exciting phase of development.
I had to make people aware of just some of what Miles has been doing, as I have been working so much behind the scenes of Ammach, and no one has yet heard from me…but now I am getting ready to move forward. He obviously thinks that Ammach is no more, and that I am lying down quietly to die in the aftermath of his sabotaging. Guess what,? That is not the case!


without prejudice



link is here ......http://alienabductionuk.com/about-us/the-end-of-miles-johnston-insightsupdates

[shadowstalker]

Planet X Live The Tony Topping Show Marie Kayali Alien Abductee AMMACH 27th August 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBmuPDHRU6Q

[Ria]

It was to be expected that Joanne would try and come up with something.

[Ultima Thule]

I have no way of knowing, but this account of Joanne feels wrong and made up on virtually all accounts.
Feels like a collection of well tried-out character assasination clichees thrown at him.

UT

[creative_expansion]

HEY GUYS YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WONDERING ABOUT JOANNE SUMMERSCALES HAS TO SAY WELL HERE IT IS, SHE HAS FINALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THE ENTIRE SITUATION.


The end of Miles Johnston…insights/updates
To those who would like to know about Mr Johnston

I feel it is time that I put in the people in the picture….

I thought I would update you about what Miles has been up to in recent times, particularly in respect of causing damage to Ammach and trying to cause me harm and damage through defamatory and in all probability libelous behaviour.

Just a bit of background (and do feel free to pass on to whomsovever you wish to) – this is to clarify my position and that of Ammach, in case you are unaware of the strange and bizarre behaviours of my now (thank god), ex colleague Miles Johnston.

For about 18 months it is now clear that Miles has been sabotaging Ammach from the inside – and doing quite a job as I didnt realise for quite a while either, until others reported to me concerns about his strange and bizarre behaviours, his irrational outbursts of temper. These seemed to begin from the time of serious interest from the media about Ammach. Some believe that his behaviours are initiated by jealousy and are like that of a spurned individual – I think in hindsight it might stem from that fact that his work on bases for 20 years has been without any interest from mainstream media and be at the root of it, and cheeky Ammach at only 15 months old was attracting it in bucket loads. It could also relate to the fact that he was into porn – never easy to be around, because he had it on his computer when I was around to do filming or editing, but I do think, all judgement aside, that this sort of murky energy can leave a person open to darker elements. Below is a summary of some of his behaviours:
During his time with Ammach Mile’s behaviour would range from irrational outburst/explosions of temper/anger, based on nothing that I could tell, to outright bullying and constantly trying to take over the project.
He frequently threatened not turning up for filming, especially during both conferences, he was aggressive and unpleasant, with bouts of calm. It was like being around an alcoholic, and I think that this may be part of his problem.
Unbeknownst to me he was also virtually stalking people whom I had interviewed (women only of course), with upsetting and personal calls/mails and texts, and would not stop even when challenged to do so. He would make inappropriate comments to female interviewees, and he was always making sexual inuendos around me whatever we were doing (I assure you that this was stricly a work relationship).
Once the Channel 4 documentary film making was underway – he extended this stalking behaviour to the production team, calling all times of the night. I had no idea he was doing all of this, until they called me up, very concerned about his behaviour they reported that he was behaving like someone very unbalanced. Unfortunately, with filming underway, it was impossible for them to do anything other than ‘manage’ the situation. He would tell production staff that dreadful things would now start happening to them (honestly, you couldnt make this up)!
During the filming he constantly harrassed both of the women who appeared (let me be clear also on the point of people participating in the documentary - they did it as individuals making a choice to take part or no, and I had zero to do with the outcome of either their filmed appearance or the outcome).
He called me one day, to say his lunch was being disturbed by one of the women who was threatening suicide (so bad was the harassment), and he told me we had a ‘situation’ – I spent an hour on the phone with this lady, I was absolutely shocked and more than concerned that anyone could cause such distress, to the point that she couldn’t take things any more. She felt so ill with his refusal to stop badgering her that she felt pushed to the edge…it escalated to her ex husband telling Miles to stop what he was doing…so Miles has been undermining the well being and direction of Ammach for a long time…can this all be just down to jealousy?
Earlier in the year he took down all the videos from youtube, so none were available on a power/ego trip - I had completely trusted him with all elements of the video side, expecting us to be working together for time to come, but now realised that he would not be satisfied until he had taken control of Ammach. I had given him complete control of all video making, uploading and editing work, and he took advantage, creating a situation whereby he was solely in charge….since then I knew there was no possibility of working together further. I could not know he was causing so much trouble and damage. From the very early days, his behaviour was clearly ‘seen’ by others with vision I dont have, and on several occasions, I was warned of a traitor in the camp, and to be careful….but I had no idea they meant Miles, because at that time,I was managing things and couldn’t believe they meant him. It just didn’t make sense, at least I didn’t see the signals then.
His behaviour got so strange and belligerent that I had to cut all contact, refusing to have anything further to do with him. He emailed me to say that he knew he was off the project – but not before he wrote a bizarre email saying that there was a sex dossier on him !!! and that he was ‘cut to the bone’!! that he was going to be exposed. Needless to say whether he has made porn films or not, I can assure the world that the last thing in my world that I would want is seeing Miles in a porn flick….
Since the aring of the documentary – which in my view was dreadful, (but created some very positive contacts and responses) – he has embarked on a campaign defaming me, starting with the ridiculous, saying that I am a reptilian – and then going on to infer that I am not safe around children – Of course I was promoting the Ammach-Chex element of the work (Chex = Child Experiencer) as I have spoken to some parents over time…and further crazy things….he is continuing to peddle bizarre, false and utterly ridiculous things about me – and putitng them out on youtube. Oh, I think he said I would never get a CRB check (if he knows what that is) – I have had one for a long time, and still do!
I was alerted that he was due to speak about Ammach at the St Annes conference – which is now nothing to do with him…so I contacted Sam, the organiser to tell him what Miles is doing and that as he is no longer involved with Ammach, he is not allowed to speak about Ammach, and Sam duly passed this on…I shall ensure that I attend on Sunday to hear what he has to say.
I consider Miles to be mirroring what he is putting out – this kind of transference is not uncommon, either that or he is an infiltrator, mentally challenged, or all of the above, one thing is for certain, I will not let him near vulnerable people, especially women, with his predatory behaviours.
Since he has been off the project, Ammach has had incredible things developing, which will be coming in the near future, it is as if now the dark energy is gone, a whole range of collaborations and contacts have come forward in an unprecedented way, and it is really a very exciting phase of development.
I had to make people aware of just some of what Miles has been doing, as I have been working so much behind the scenes of Ammach, and no one has yet heard from me…but now I am getting ready to move forward. He obviously thinks that Ammach is no more, and that I am lying down quietly to die in the aftermath of his sabotaging. Guess what,? That is not the case!


without prejudice



link is here ......http://alienabductionuk.com/about-us...nsightsupdates

[delfine]

Are you confused?...You won´t be, if you watch the next episode of..."AMMACH-meltdown"...

Honestly I don´t know whether to laugh or cry. AMMACH seemed like such an important pioneer-project, a long-awaited forum, where abductees could meet and finally get the support they so badly needed.
Now that golden opportunity has been lost. In stead of taking care of them, while introducing the wider public to these sensitive matters, all AMMACH has achieved has been to make themselves and the people involved look like fools. *Sigh*

[vilcabamba]

Does anyone notice how all light worker groups and partnerships are destroyed from the inside. No one seems to be able to get along. I think there is sabotage from the dark forces who are controlling the minds of people though nanotechnology and somehow making people angry at one another. It just seems to happen so often that I think there is something going on that is beyond our comprehension. There are so many infights between people in the UFO and new age networks, it just seems like the grey aliens zone in on these people and make them fight with one another.

[ThePythonicCow]

HEY GUYS YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WONDERING ABOUT JOANNE SUMMERSCALES HAS TO SAY WELL HERE IT IS, SHE HAS FINALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THE ENTIRE SITUATION.
I merged your new "Joanne Summerscales finally speaks" in with the existing thread in which you had already posted the same report.

[Sandra]

Mr. Johnston recently came on my radio show here in Manchester, I can only speak as I find and can say Miles was a perfect gent who made for an interesting and entertaining guest that said not one bad word about Joanne, thought the C4 show was a debacle and felt sorry for the interviewees who have been let down the most throughout all this.

Channel 4 have a lot to answer for.

[ktlight]

Miles asked me to post this:

"In response, I feel I must make few issues clear about Ms Summerscales' (JS) attacks. I am not going to give them the energy by listing point by point.

For other witnesses who are tired off all this, I apologise and wish them well, with healing and a better life. For other AMMACH interested parties its part of slanging match on TOT and Avalon, which I wish to make a once-only statement and then get on with my life.

I have been accused of sabotaging AMMACH for over 18 months, stalking witnesses and now being a porn star.

Who paid for the lighting and the resources to put the conferences on. I did.

Who paid for the resources to make the videos on THOUSANDS of Pounds worth of tape, as well as service costs. I did

Who warned this fantasist (JS) control freak that no 600+ people are going to come to the first conference, as she in her daydream state asked the hotel to provide full facilities, the Complete hall, and surrounding rooms. I told her 80 at best. I did.

Who was going to end up paying for this fiasco when it went wrong I was.

The shoots and multi-camera edits took thousands of hours, which I sandwiched between 12-hr random shifts at the BBC in Manchester, which included travel to and from venue(s), amounted to virtually endless AMMACH hours in free time, providing my house for a set, and shooting various locations across the country, hauling around thousands of pounds worth of HDV camera kits and hundreds of pounds worth of lights. A strip light alone (for the sofas) cost £250 plus VAT, and we had 4 of them.

Who paid for those. I did

Who paid for the sound desks, the lighting desks the 100+d extra cables for the conference. I did.

Who installed and rigged and loaded them. I did

Who shot the conferences - all multi-camera shoots. I did. Who else would do this FOR FREE and spend £10,000 on time and edit computers and tapes (£500 a box load)

To make it clear, a four-camera shoot means its FOUR HOURS to load ONE hour of interview. So a 2-hr interview takes EIGHT hours, a 3-hour interview takes TWELVE hours, and so on.

When JS and I did 3 interviews in a weekend, this mean the next week started with just uploads. To help with this I spent almost £800 on a whole new edit computer,and £1,500 on a DV deck to play the tapes in.

All this, costing £1,000s, I put into AMMACH and, yet, I am a saboteur. With this kind of workload and being exposed to the energy from some of these interviews, yes I was terse and direct. It's called endless work and workpressure. The contempt shown by JS during many of the recordings had me walk off. She still has not realised how I re-edited many of the interviews to exclude her from most of the edit. I admit that at times her beauty mesmerised me to include rather too much of her in the edits!

Who else would do all this for FREE, dedication to Ammach and dedication to the most important people of all - THE WITNESSES

SOME of the Ammach videos were temporarily taken down to support and give assistance to a witness in desperate need. No-one else was volunteering to oversee the thousands of comments on YouTube. I had to do this. There were no moderators, and I have to be told when comments are abusive, so I can block/ remove them. Trolls and Trojans (and simple time wasters) do leave extremely offensive and abusive comments and they need taken down. But I need to be informed that they are there.

In one case there were simply too many and too little time to stop the hurt of this witness, so I was forced to shut down a whole swathe of videos to SUPPORT and HELP that Witness.

Was JS doing this. NO.

I made it clear that the witness comes first and taking down a few videos for a week or so is nothing compared to the health and safety of the traumatised witness. Another witness asked me to stop all comments which I have done. Another witness wanted all of her videos down, so I took them down., When she wanted them back up I put them back, again and again.

I have spent every waking hour to Ammach for 2 and 1/2 years and received no support and many demands from JS.

Working every hour of the day often from early morning and then god forbid getting a few beers in the last 45 mins of the night. Yes I do drink, sometimes too much, at the end of the day. But I also worked every hour god sent for Ammach. Perhaps I should have limited my time, and got a job instead and told JS to go hike.

Who lugged over 42KG of kit there on my own to make her look good. I Did. Yet I am a saboteur? What thanks do I get - NONE.

AMMACH IN America, I am accused of sabotage.

WHO Got her there. Who introduced her there. I did. We all asked her to come and make it a great time, and one of the witnesses even paid for her trip! (NOTE the material with Marie and JS proving positive for so called alien contact on their bodies (UV B and C Scan) and the metering of implants on Marie was all given in High Definition DV, to Off The Fence (OFF) for the Ch4 show. They used NONE of it, instead they filmed a few shots in a stupid grow tent they had me erect my garden. Anything that showed validity to Marie's claims was specifically NOT used in the program, including an MRI Scan sent to OFF and I by Marie the day before the show went out.) I was also warning them that this material can back fire, and they may take hits as a result.

OFF would phone me at different hours and times of the night and day, and I would respond. OFF were also talking about a second documentary and I was briefing and providing them with connections and a great deal of background. I believe now this was just a con to make us feel we would get another documentary or even a series. Both JS and I had wanted to make 'On The Sofa' a professional TV series for a channel like Living. OFF were extremely toxically briefed against me by one of the witnesses, who subsequently pulled out of Ammach. This was because" I was in TV and could suss them out". (Well I was not very successful, I actually foolishly had faith in their statements and promises, I really felt we were having a serious documentary made, not the car wreck, which went to air.)

This includes the so called Reptilian issue. Its from witnesses that these comments have come from, NOT ME.

That witness has since declared JS invaded his mind while under her "care", and he had to through her out of his head. This is a massive violation of patient and witness care. JS's ability to do this should be a stark warning that, while in her care, she should choose to violate and abuse trust while the patient is vulnerable and at her mercy.

Other medically qualified therapists and carers who have witnessed her work stated she breaks many rules and should not be a therapist. So when I state people should not deal with her, it's with this medical opinion in mind, as well as my own, and as wells as the witness statements sent to me or told to me. This is the statement in so many words by the witness I can only take as his word against hers.

As a consequence of this report from a witness and further reports from other witnesses I feel it is my duty to warn people to have nothing to do her i.e. Ammach.

I have now been advised by a former special police officer to give this no energy.

However, I feel I must state I have worked my ass off for and provided massive funding for Ammach, all dismissed in the wink of an eye by JS, who has also dismissed in a similar manner other founding Ammach members.

JS's dismissive personality has led to many bust ups in the past, but I have retained focus on the help of the witnesses so their message gets out. Its takes guts to sit in front TV cameras and to deliver their accounts and at conferences presentations and they need supported and celebration.

Ammach is not about helping people its about extracting data from witnesses, who soon after seem to have a rather bad run of luck. To state that for 15 months I was sabotaging Ammach is an excuse by her to not pay me for the work I have done, amounting now to over £100,000s, if she should pay for such work commercially. I have dedicated my time and effort to this project for FREE, and to say I was sabotaging it, when during the CH4 program I spent over £3,000 of my own money on extra lights and Implant Detector technology alone. All for nothing.

Two of the witnesses were in despair at different times and called me for support which I gave, which infuriated JS, as it was her lack of care that was causing the issues. I was asking one to come to the Spring conference, but it seems her higher self knew better and it was best she did not come.

I talked with her for an hour or more over several calls to help her in her distress. I reported this to JS, but JS, rather than support the witness, used it as blame game against me. It was all about get the witness on the TV and forget her welfare. Witnesses have called me in the past, sometimes in the early hours and I have listened and given them support as best as I can. I am NOT a therapist or in any way pretend to be, but I will give a listening ear and support as best as I can.

There was a lot pressure from OFF for her to appear at the conference, and this distressed the witness a great deal.There are many Ammach witnesses who came through me, but those are all "excluded" as they have not come in via JS.

The WITNESS is important, not I.

Finally, regarding Porn Star.

Shockingly, I love the ladies. They can tell me to bogg off and drop dead at their pleasure. Most of my close companions and friends are ladies for which I am grateful. I have total respect for the ladies and love them.

Well yes, one of the close friends I have on my PC is a dear friend from the states, Kimberly Kupps, who has had a difficult time. We are friends, and we have shared close personal ordinary news between each other as friends. She had been going through a very difficult time in her life and, yes, I am one of her biggest fans. I was shocked she would call or email me. I like the girls very much and have nothing to hide.

BASES is a part of my UFO research which goes back to when I was at school over 40 years ago. JS prefers to belittle it.

WHO made the AMMACH Videos what they are. I DID.

Who shot them?

Who edited them?
Who recorded them? I did.

Who provided all the facilities for them freely? Who is being stalked and banned from speaking about work I did over 2 half years? I am.

Who is asked to talk about all this (BASES)? I am.

If JS wishes to spend her life going around every conference and radio show stalking me, then that's her affair. I was asked about AMMACH and have already spoken about Ammach on many radio shows and lectures, JS I believe has only ever been asked to speak ONCE, and what a light empty presentation that was.

Who signed any contract with anyone about this. I didn't!

I am dammed if I am going to be slandered and mistreated in this way. And JS does need to learn empathy for witnesses.

YES, let's be clear - JS has and is putting a vast amount of hard work into this. She is doing a book with a witness which is very important work. Let's be clear - she works very hard and is good presenter and, as I say, "cleans up well on the telly". I feel our best work was with Dr Judy Wood. I needed better lights but I feel this was good work. So let's be clear - give credit and positive appreciation where it is due. Whatever has happened in her past needs to be resolved.

I have been speaking on this and related issues and being in the press, had multiple documentaries made for SKY and even the BBC decades ago.

Making Passes.

Yes, I have stated I was attracted to one or two of the witnesses, which is between them and myself. I respect their privacy and if they so choose to speak it is up to them. I respect and wish them well.

I wish JS well, but not at the expense and suffering of other people and her attempt to kill off myself, re "The End of Miles Johnston" which she has published. Is she going to have me killed off, or murdered?

I became somewhat besotted by JS, which external observers say is how she mesmerised me to committing so much of my time effort and money to the success of Ammach. JS, in my opinion through observation, lacks empathy for other people and simply uses the witnesses for her own ends and simply puts them through their trauma again. As stated by one of the callers on that 'coast' show.

So, as a Saboteur, who got JS on Coast To Coast AM, shortly before the Ch4 show. I DID.

Who introduced her to a multi $BILLIONAIRE, in Phoenix. I DID.

Who made use of those connections. JS DIDN'T.

So who is sabotaging Ammach when she will not take advantage of massive international opportunities I arranged for her through my contacts.

Who got her a FULL HOUR on Revolution Radio. I DID.

Who walked out after only 5 mins, as she had nothing to offer. She DID.

Who claims total credit for the Ch4 show, and stated I had nothing to do with it, despite it being filmed in my house, obviously with me there). Well as the one who claims total CREDIT for the show, SHE can Take full BLAME for how it was used to abuse the witnesses. I was not invited to the pre air screening. One witness was, who showed her contempt and outrage at the time.
Once again this was about making JS look good, at the expense and contempt of the witnesses.

Who edited and compiled her demo discs the last day she was here. I DID (During the recording of Update 006).

To see her duplicity, see how she performed during that show, and see what she was actually doing behind my back. See how duplicitous she can be. See what she was doing when I was discussing the funeral over the terrible death of a witness's daughter.

Who gave their home and all their time for her project over 2 1/2 years. I DID.

The respective witnesses are sick and tired of this bickering so I intend to make no further statements."

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGCN9gPqvK0

"Published June 23, 2014
Marie Kayali returns to the Bases Project to give a major update on her story and her stand against those who murdered her daughter."

[Earth Angel]

is the CH4 show that Marie is so upset about available to watch ??

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2NCvb5LOL0

"Published on Jun 27, 2014
Marie continues her Regression account with Dr David Jacobs, and her involvement with Dr Young Chi Hai. Whilst her regression seems to have been steered to old US thinking on how abductions Should be, Marie strongly disagrees, that what was being foisted on her during Her regression had very little to do with what she actually experienced. Perhaps one good reason NOT to have regressions.

Further accounts of Orb activity and her abduction experiences continue.

In Part 9, her final part on her experiences she continues. Part 10 focuses on the court case on her daughter's murder, a clear cover up, and what lies ahead, in the future. This concludes Bases 19 "After Gina"."

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amazing videos!!! there are also two more parts if anybody is is interested to watch them they are on youtube part 9 and ten

[creative_expansion]

yeah it is up somewhere really crappy quality ill try to find the link, i think theres a thread here with the link, confessions of an alien abductee was the tittle, i have a good copy but they took it off my youtube channel

[Gardener]

I have just watched part 10 and it is very good, Marie is an intelligent woman prepared to go the distance for truth but they really stone walled her in the weirdest ways. Part 10 is nice in that she has planned a future which sounds good and seems to have come to a place where she can get some peace even if she doesn't get closure yet.

[Agape]

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There is something wrong going on here ... maybe seriously wrong ... maybe just another piece of madness , can't say .

Barry had short but spicy internet word-exchange with Marie which I hoped was stopped, to spare both their health ..
but I'm going to say something here , for the light of any possible future events .

I feel very sorry for Marie and what life took her through. But there is no point her story is real .

I'm sort of dumbfounded on seeing her claims rising beyond the horizon of other peoples genuine experiences, mine included .

It's one of the dangers of this 'public disclosure' . It's too well known phenomenon in many other circles than ufology , once a new type of information gets out and to public domain, plagiarism settles .. sooner or later,
with hundred of alleged witnesses corroborating their 'true stories' .

There's no way to disprove people with psychopathic traits, people playing on public emotion note , people with money who can pay to researchers ,
and pave their way forwards .

I don't mean any wrong, not attacking , just stating this here even if it remains unheard .

I have expected it, long ago ..this is the true danger of public disclosure and vulnerable people picking on truth , thinking they're living other peoples life stories.

The way Marie entered to Miles circles , breaking it subsequently to pieces . The death of her daughter was no stopper ..

only another way how to live in her young limelight . It sounds weird for mother to push herself forwards, but it's how some mums are , mine isn't different .

This person is 'getting filmed' by Miles, paying procedures only to condemn them , living something 'for us' she can't ever win, only to go through that all,
is her 'motherly instinct' guiding her ?

Showing us the way not go ? I know because my own mum is very similar ..


But it's not a good sign , because the truth you think you live is not true .. and no matter how strong you feel , compared to us , because life made you strong and the same life that took us through something too extraordinary to remain so healthy as you are .

It's not a good sign because the truth is again, getting buried .

And lies are winning on all fronts ...


And I don't want to be the witness to this anymore .


:yo:

[Agape]

I was asked not to say anything about this anymore . Because , indeed , there are some 'powerful people' covering the topic .

They are 'watching this space' , I was told . And ready to file .. whatever .

There's a common denominator to the MK story , called the MK Ultra. Yes you hear well .
The rich and powerful. Those who think they can posses all the knowledge in the world only because they can pay for it . Those who are asking us 'to learn from them' .
Going crazy because this all is too much on their minds . They are not famous for their morals . Obviously, not even for their language .
They think that bright IQ is something you can pay . That evidence is something that can be corroborated .

They left one woman in trouble it seems ... or is she a honey trap . Interviewing the famous eco-researchers on the scene , in disguise of abductee .

They left their signature under all of my Bases 16/testimony videos , they left many other signatures elsewhere too but we have deleted all that was possible .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3NAOlgRNEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx_f4WMwl4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uw3cIplGy0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq5-9lzN6vY


There is more to it .. much more , lies against truth .

[donk]

I was asked not to say anything about this anymore . Because , indeed , there are some 'powerful people' covering the topic .

They are 'watching this space' , I was told . And ready to file .. whatever .

There's a common denominator to the MK story , called the MK Ultra. Yes you hear well .
The rich and powerful. Those who think they can posses all the knowledge in the world only because they can pay for it . Those who are asking us 'to learn from them' .
Going crazy because this all is too much on their minds . They are not famous for their morals . Obviously, not even for their language .
They think that bright IQ is something you can pay . That evidence is something that can be corroborated .

They left one woman in trouble it seems ... or is she a honey trap . Interviewing the famous eco-researchers on the scene , in disguise of abductee .

They left their signature under all of my Bases 16/testimony videos , they left many other signatures elsewhere too but we have deleted all that was possible .


Y3NAOlgRNEc

bx_f4WMwl4k

9Uw3cIplGy0

Dq5-9lzN6vY
There is more to it .. much more , lies against truth .

Youtubed it for ya Eva (so I can watch...can only see embedded at work) thanks!

[Jake]

Marie Kayali is a friend, and a former member of Avalon. I understand that she has put herself out there, and therefore must bare the responsibility for the negative feedback.. But I will also say that I have always admired her strength and spirit, and if we must judge her,,, let us judge her for her strengths,, and what she has gone through. Some of us reached out to her during a time of need. She is a human, and a dear person... She chose to leave Avalon by her own will.. She is a very sharp and abrasive communicator... I haven't heard from her in a long time, but i wish her well...

Jake.

[Flash]

Mary has had a hard time and paid dearly. Even if she would have been at any time smoke and mirrors, in that case, she would have been abandoned to her own destiny and be left alone to pay with the life of her daughter.

It is extremely difficult to see the light and the truth when in such situations. One may even go crazy at times, sometimes to fall back into sanity, sometimes to never come back to sanity. Representing and playing smoke and mirrors or not, one ends up with smokes and mirrors all around regardless.

I certainly have full empathy for Mary, even if I do not concur at all times with what she says and believe. i have done differently with my family, however, I would have needed very little to behave the same as she did. Thanks God, it did not happen.

The bitterness has to be released in any and every case anyhow, I invite everyone to release their bitterness and anger in order to see the truth to take the right décisions.

[Agape]

I have never had intention to hurt anyone . It does not mean that i don't step on someones toes , occasionally but tend to apologise .

There are two principles I am dwelling on here, one is intelligence and information - and the other is abiding in truth .
Both are present in all of us , lesser and greater degree and can be trained and have to be trained, as well as non violence can and have to be trained , and so forth .

It's enough to read those MK Ultra comments to understand where are they pointing to .
The big bad wolf of the case .. is impossible to face for anyone, over the internet, probably not in reality either , this much smarts they have too .
Using a death of a teenager , from mum who was psychologically unstable at that time as well , as a cover for 'serious alien abduction case' and convincing us,

that 'we are no one' , yes I've got those words from her friends ..

the overall psychological profile of this is as fishy as unprovable .

Why does it target our information and the whole ?

End of story . I'm just feeling ashamed of being on target from these guys.


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[Jake]

I have never had intention to hurt anyone . It does not mean that i don't step on someones toes , occasionally but tend to apologise .

There are two principles I am dwelling on here, one is intelligence and information - and the other is abiding in truth .
Both are present in all of us , lesser and greater degree and can be trained and have to be trained, as well as non violence can and have to be trained , and so forth .

It's enough to read those MK Ultra comments to understand where are they pointing to .
The big bad wolf of the case .. is impossible to face for anyone, over the internet, probably not in reality either , this much smarts they have too .
Using a death of a teenager , from mum who was psychologically unstable at that time as well , as a cover for 'serious alien abduction case' and convincing us,

that 'we are no one' , yes I've got those words from her friends ..

the overall psychological profile of this is as fishy as unprovable .

Why does it target our information and the whole ?

End of story . I'm just feeling ashamed of being on target from these guys.


:rain:

Thank you. Clearly, I am biased. I admit to being ignorant of the whole story... MKUltra is out of the scope of mee experience. Marie is in pain. :(

I do not doubt you,, :)

Jake.

[Agape]

What can I say . It's long way to go Jake ... the information.. people who want to take hold of any piece of ET intelligence and the evidence of it ,
I've heard Dr Jacobs in the Hidden Hand - Alien Agenda doc , posted in parallel thread to here saying : ''You wish you were never a member of that club '' .

Anyway , I think he knows what he's talking about , too well . But no ETs are true 'members of the club' .

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I blame the pain on human force and abuse, not on ETs . I'm not preaching philosophy about 'benevolent ETs' but most violence we witness in this world comes from people . Misunderstandings . Sometimes unwillingness even to listen to each other .
Pushing the wrong chart ..

I do feel very sorry for Marie . But I think she's been used . To set an example for many people , perhaps even a warning .
And the horror of this all is that the 'hidden hand' behind attempt to do this to everyone who steps to their field and dwells there longer than few moments .
They drive people crazy , and make them think they're on something , that it can be proved .

Maybe ask Omni when he's around ... the clue is subtle . There are many things you can know and use the knowledge but can not prove .
It's a bit like in a fairy tale where the gold from the cave turns to old leaves when you reach the village .

There is a hyperspace loop . It does not mean that ETs can't be proved , it only means it can't be proved really simple way . People who hopped on that faith mostly failed so far . Or ended up believing in some kind of fantastic tales .


Thanks & sorry

:angel:

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you people are disgusting to be tearing people apart like some are, really nice. and questioning her sanity and parenting???? are you ****ing serious?? you all think you know so much cause what you know somebody who knows somebody who has maybe spoken to her before and the rumor mill starts, get a ****ing life and blog about something normal instead of disgusting character assassinations, this place is a ****ing joke now really. all gossip no real good info anymore, congrats guys i hope you all feel so great picking on somebody who can't even defend herself here. sickos

[Agape]

you people are disgusting to be tearing people apart like some are, really nice. and questioning her sanity and parenting???? are you ****ing serious?? you all think you know so much cause what you know somebody who knows somebody who has maybe spoken to her before and the rumor mill starts, get a ****ing life and blog about something normal instead of disgusting character assassinations, this place is a ****ing joke now really. all gossip no real good info anymore, congrats guys i hope you all feel so great picking on somebody who can't even defend herself here. sickos

You may have misunderstood something here . The situation was passed down from Miles and Marie .
No one is happy to hear that Marie suffers . If it is upon these people here , I am sure that many are or would be supportive of her .

What is difficult .. impossible to solve .. is staging and pursuing open arguments ( where facts are not ever stated and can not be stated by either side , we are not court, medical experts board or life counselling service on the net ) between researchers ,
researchers and witnesses , facilitating and supporting attacks, unsubstantiated accusations ..
this is going along with some people for years now . Not everyone is willing to be part of it .

I don't think that ANYONE except her understand her situation well now . With respect to Miles Johnston and others involved, I refuse to have more words on this.

[ktlight]

you people are disgusting to be tearing people apart like some are, really nice. and questioning her sanity and parenting???? are you ****ing serious?? you all think you know so much cause what you know somebody who knows somebody who has maybe spoken to her before and the rumor mill starts, get a ****ing life and blog about something normal instead of disgusting character assassinations, this place is a ****ing joke now really. all gossip no real good info anymore, congrats guys i hope you all feel so great picking on somebody who can't even defend herself here. sickos

where is this tearing apart happening? I do not see it.

[Christine]

Dear Avalon members.. This thread is being closed for the safety of all.. Please respect this and desist from making further discussion about Marie K.