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Victoria Tintagel
4th September 2010, 19:46
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Hi Avalonians, for those of you who like David Wilcocks work, highly recommended!
Take care and be well!
jack
4th September 2010, 23:20
Thank you
And Namaste :)
Grizzom
5th September 2010, 01:45
Wilcocks site feels like it's either a church or funeral home. :lol:
onawah
5th September 2010, 05:02
Here's the message:
NEW READING AUGUST 10, 2010... "MANAGEMENT NOTICE: PREPARE FOR TRANSFIGURATION"
VIOLET FLASHES IN
Violet flashes in. Circumstances as they are today would be better if you were able to approach the throne of the Divine like this as often as possible.
EARTH CHANGES ARE AN EXERCISE IN DIVINE DISCIPLINE
Let me make a few statements regarding the coming Earth Changes. Those alleged changes are nothing more than an exercise in Divine discipline.
Haiti, Chile and other quakes are very real. Yes, that is true. The greater equation is an anthropocentric one. I liken it to a bird whose wings are almost ready to fly.
ALL THE PROPHECIES ARE NOW COMING TRUE
Now is the time where all the prophecies we have been giving over the years come true. Their final failing point only is that the candle wax burns lower than most would think is possible without the flame being extinguished.
Nonetheless, you are ripe and ready for the harvest of consciousness. The earth has cultivated its bounty, and for this we are greatly appreciative of your efforts.
YOU ARE EXPERIENCING PERSONAL EARTH CHANGES
There is something I want to tell you.
Don’t give up hope, because the messenger becomes the message. You are experiencing a shift in yourself that corresponds to these Earth Changes.
In your own way, you approach the Throne of the Divine, and release the constrictions that have formerly held you back from accomplishing the goals you set out to reach long before incarnation.
THERE IS NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THIS PROCESS
Let’s establish a few fundamentals here. There really is no need to worry about anything related to this process.
We have never strayed from the goal of protecting you from the inevitable upsets and inadequate decisions that have so often been made on your planet.
This spell in the woods is a temporary one. While you are trying to find your home, in one sense, in another you recognize that you have indeed arrived in the here and now.
AN OVERWHELMING CHANGE IN PERSPECTIVE
This tsunami so many concern themselves with is not a physical one. It is an overwhelming change in perspective brought on by unpredictable personal events.
And in that sense, we are responsible for fomenting these changes within yourself.
THIS PROCESS IS GUIDED AT THE VERY HIGHEST LEVELS
This process the Earth is now going through is guided at the very highest levels to insure that you will approach whatever level of progress is suitable for you, without ever straying too far, if at all, from the course at hand.
A PART OF YOUR PSYCHE NEEDS TO DIE
As we demonstrated in David’s dream, there is an aspect of your psychological makeup, if you will, that must allow itself to die, or at the very least give way to a greater level of beingness within yourself.
This is the mystery for which so many are unprepared. They haven’t experienced enough humility within their own lives to be honorably certain of the illusory nature of this so-called ‘ego’ – this false sense of self that is built upon illusion and materiality.
I would prefer that we reframe the discussion away from the minor trivialities of each day and its unexpected turmoils, and instead re-orient our focus towards the same spiritual practices that have sustained the masters for millennia throughout the Cosmos.
THE TRUTH IS VERY SIMPLE
The truth is indeed very simple. And with that truth comes the reconciliation of the desires of the divine self with those of the mortal mind, so to speak.
It isn’t that hard to ruin those castles of falsity that the ego mind or personality self, if you will, would erect.
This time around, I have left to you as to how to figure out the straightest and narrowest path to these changes.
Opening yourself to service, and being willing to help others, indeed reconciles many of the conflicts that have otherwise plagued these thoughts and actions.
EACH LIFE IS PRECIOUS BEYOND IMAGINATION
Comets and their dust may indeed contain organic compounds, and the Universe is alive on a level most could not conceive of.
That doesn’t mean that we fail to notice each and every subtle nuance of the dance of consciousness.
Each life is precious beyond imagination, and our goal is to topple those false castles and replace them with that which rings true throughout the millennia.
BE AWARE OF THE PEACE AND STILLNESS OF EVERY MOMENT
It is simpler than you may think to open yourself to this process. It does not require elaborate training or investigative protocols into arcane arts and sciences.
Rather, it is simply an awareness of the peace and the stillness of each and every moment.
OPENING YOURSELF TO RECEIVE INFORMATION
Within the bounty of that moment, there is endless opportunity to open yourself to receive information from higher planes in a clear and understandable manner.
Much of this information comes through in the form of subtle, fleeting bursts of thought that you are accustomed to seeing as imagination.
You may be accustomed to hiding yourself from the Divine – instinctively.
Many of you feel that to go topless, in the energetic sense, is far too naked and exposing.
By energetically topless, we mean letting go of this illusion of privacy, and actually opening yourself to receive direct communication from your own Higher Self – regarding you and your path and what is most suitable for you.
EMBRACE THE LOVE BEHIND INTUITIVE MESSAGES – EVEN THE STRENUOUS ONES
Regardless of the means through which communication is possible, any authentic reception of such data will invariably involve feedback notes on various manners in which you may decide to change yourself for the betterment of your own vibrational ministry, let’s say.
It takes a great deal of practice to learn to accept these dream messages, intuitive promptings, or other such forms of communication with the love that was intended behind them – even when the message can seem rather strenuous, as in the case of an obsessive, repeating nightmare, let’s say.
Every dream contains data that is relevant to your higher quest for knowledge – and they will not pull punches.
You will hear things about yourself that can seem overwhelmingly negative or disappointing. And in many cases, the simple lack of accountability that so many would feel, in the spiritual sense, causes them to shut down or ignore the potential value of these transactions.
To wake up in a sea of water and [be] barely able to reach the surface is the emotional equivalent of what we are discussing here.
IT IS MUCH EASIER TO DENY THE MESSAGES
Ultimately we are aware of the need for this fragmented sense of self that has been constructed to effectively die, and give way to a greater integration of the truth of your Being.
As a sovereign citizen of the Universe, you are entitled to certain inalienable rights. And of course, you have veto power over any intuitive message that would come along.
In fact, it is much easier for you to deny these messages, and undermine their significance by failing to appreciate the seriousness with which they are imbued.
REMEMBER THEY ARE OFFERED IN LOVE AND GRATITUDE
More importantly, however, when you get these notes from the Universe, please remember that they are offered in love and in gratitude to you.
It can seem that so many have said hurtful things to you over your years of life that any such messages of potential significance in how you may change yourself for the better could be seen and construed as insulting.
THE FRAGMENTED SELF SEES IT AS DEATH, NOT INTEGRATION
The fragmented self builds elaborate fortifications against any attempt to be identified and ultimately attacked.
It perceives these changes as an attack because it does not like to go along with the plan of its own projected destruction that will take place within a certain timeline – according to a sequence of events it knows well, instinctively speaking.
YOU ARE NOT BEING WEAK AND DEFERENTIAL TO FOLLOW THE SUGGESTIONS
In the ideal sense, the humility of your Being in the midst of these intuitive suggestions is such that an appreciative attitude and a willingness to investigate these suggestions does not imbue you with the sense of having been weak and deferential.
THE GAME IS CHANGING
Soon you will have new responsibilities to uphold, as the game is changing.
There is no need to compensate for any apparent lack that you may have felt in the past. Let’s look at what you are doing right, as opposed to what you may be doing wrong.
VERY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN A SENSE OF SELF WITHIN SUCH CHANGES
The fragile nature of identity is easy to lose track of. It can be very difficult to maintain that sense of self in the midst of such overwhelming emotional and spiritual changes.
And yet, the space between thoughts is indeed a fine place to be.
TRY THE SUGGESTED CHANGES ON FOR SIZE
I like that aspect of the journey. It doesn’t involve a marriage certificate having to be signed the minute you decide to humble yourself to the guidance.
You can investigate the changes that are being suggested, try them on for size, see what works for you, and discard the rest if it does not feel appropriate.
WE DO NOT WISH TO CULTIVATE DEPENDENCY
This message is tailor-made to the needs of the many, based upon our observations of those who have heard the messages through this instrument known as David Wilcock.
It is our goal to assist you in your evolutionary process, and we do not wish to cultivate a drug-like dependency on the words of this instrument.
We have noticed that so many are concerned with the frequency with which the one known as David writes.
When there is an interim period where he would otherwise be preoccupied, there are many disappointing letters indicating how deeply his presence is missed.
Again, our goal is not to promote David or his works. David is one aspect of a much greater collective initiative, and it has many, many facets.
Our goal is to reach the shoreline of your awareness, and set sail with a craft of our own design in collaboration with you – such that there is no need to worry about the future, or concern yourself with the frequency of available materials of any kind, whether they be David’s writings or otherwise.
[Transcription Note 8/28: I just finished a long conversation on the airplane with someone about sailing right before going back in to add in these headlines and comments. Another great synchronicity!]
LEARN TO TRUST THAT HUMANITY WILL NOT GO EXTINCT
This time, the victory that is at hand is your own. It is an adaptation of the deeper meaning of what it is to trust.
Do you really need David’s words to explain to you why each new fear-porn situation, as he calls it, is not going to transpire?
Have there not been enough examples, even in the recent past, such as the alleged swine flu vaccine scare and now that of the Deepwater Horizon / BP oil spill, that you may see how these events are very carefully and precisely monitored so that no actual extinction-level events take place?
THE STAKES HAVE TO SEEM VERY REAL TO GET YOU TO AWAKEN TO COMPASSION FOR OTHERS
It can be very captivating to contemplate the death of lots of people, and that is for a reason.
You are indeed living in an illusion. The terms of the illusion include the fact that life comes and goes, on every level, including that of the human.
This does not mean that there is a callous disregard for your safety and well-being, or that you are swimming with sharks who shall inevitably tear you to pieces at a given time when they identify you.
Quite to the contrary, this world is [part of] a holographic universe whose purpose is to further your own process of evolution by helping you achieve levels of self-realization that would take myriad aeons of time in higher realms to achieve.
The stakes within this illusion have to seem very real.
THE FRAGMENTED SELF CLINGS TO THE MATERIAL WORLD
The fragmented self we spoke of before most desperately clings to the identity of the material world.
Its existence is predicated upon the desire to stabilize and enhance the consistency and the appreciability of the material universe for its own benefit, and the benefit of friends, acquaintances, family and people it identifies with.
SEEING THE DEATH AND SUFFERING OF OTHERS ULTIMATELY CREATES A DEATH OF THE EGOIC MIND
Therefore, when [the fragmented self] is faced with a phenomenon as complex and seemingly troublesome as suffering and death, it is inclined to feel that this desire for consistency and stability has been heavily threatened, if not eliminated.
The fear of the so-called Illuminati or New World Order forces is ultimately a reflection of the egoic mind, if you will, knowing the inevitability of its own destruction.
EGOIC DEATH IS NOT A NEGATIVE
As we have said, that destruction is not a negative event at all.
With the collapsing of the falsehoods and the lies that one so habitually tells oneself comes the opportunity for large-scale transformation on a level never heretofore possible.
YOU WILL SEE THE COLLECTIVE DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL
You will indeed see the collapse of things you thought stable and secure.
You will stare into the mouth of the dark cave, and wonder what monstrosities may lie on the other side of that portal.
You may indeed find yourself faced with seemingly mortal challenges – both individually and collectively as a whole.
TRANSFIGURATION COMES AFTER LETTING GO OF MANY CONVENIENT CRUTCHES
This [time of seemingly mortal challenge] is not without precedent. It is written into the very fabric of the Universe.
It allows you to be present at the moment of your own transfiguration.
This, of course, comes in the aftermath of the letting go of many strictures and complexities of consciousness that seemed so convenient for you in the past.
THE ELITE TRY TO USE UNIVERSAL LAW TO CREATE EARTH CHANGES
The material world is a feedback instrument for your consciousness.
There is individual and collective free will.
You have watched those we could deem the planetary elite attempting to use the creative power of the mind to foment said Earth Changes and other such violent events by making films and stories about them – in the hopes that all the people seeing and believing these events will in turn hasten their arrival.
NEGATIVE GROUPS TRY TO REDUCE POPULATION – BUT THIS IS HOW PLANETARY AWAKENING TAKES PLACE
It is absolutely correct that these power groups wish to dramatically reduce population on Earth.
They also feel that this is a benevolent action due to the consequences of the so-called “population bomb” – if the numbers were left unchecked.
There are indeed complications involved in any such population boom.
However, those complications are part of the greater picture of the apparent planetary crisis you shall be faced with at the end of an era such as this.
You have not exceeded the boundaries of any such universal plan or initiative.
It is instead extremely consistent with what has come before on many other worlds.
THESE PROCESSES ARE GUIDED VERY CAREFULLY – AND ARE NOT MEANT TO INVOLVE MASS DEATH
The changes that will transpire are not meant to involve mass death and casualties.
There are certain unavoidable losses, from the physical perspective, that will occur.
This is the result of so many hazardous situations that portray themselves to you as palpable threats to your existence.
Please be advised that these processes are guided very carefully, so as to preserve free will – such that no one meets with an experience that is other than most useful for them at that time.
NO ONE IN THE HIGHER REALMS ENJOYS SEEING YOU SUFFER
Remember your soul is outside physical form. It chooses an incarnation such as the one you now have for the purposes of its own evolution.
Everything in this material world that you see around you is ultimately holographic. That being said, no one in the higher realms eagerly anticipates you feeling pain, or being injured, or going through upsetting events.
There is no sarcasm nor sardonic glee in watching you go through your darkest moments as a person.
THE LAW OF KARMA IS IN EFFECT
However, there is what many have termed the law of karma in effect.
This, of course, means that what you measure out to others shall be measured back to you.
THE LAW OF GRACE KEEPS YOU FROM BEING FULLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL YOUR KARMA
There are caveats to this law, which the one known as Edgar Cayce called the Law of Grace.
In fact, were you fully accountable for all aspects of that which you know to be an infringement upon free will, the karmic events would be much too severe for there to be any learning value in them.
You would feel perpetually tormented and cursed by bad luck in the vast majority of cases to which we are referring.
EFFORTS ARE MADE TO SCALE YOUR KARMA TO AN UNDERSTANDABLE LEVEL
Therefore, efforts are made to scale the intensity of your experiences to a believable and achievable level – where you can then appreciate what it is that comes your way, and potentially understand the deeper significance of that which has happened.
David has called such events, when they arrive, a “karmic blast”. And for now we will use that term.
WHEN KARMA APPEARS TO HAVE TAKEN PLACE, REMEMBER YOU ARE LOVED
We would humbly request that when you receive a “karmic blast”, you step away from the apparent feelings of judgment and criticism that your mind would be quick to assign to those events, and instead understand and reflect upon the fact that you are loved more than you could ever possibly imagine.
When these balancing events occur, they are administered with a hopefulness that this will finally penetrate the heavily-fortified defenses of the personality self, or ego mind, and get a message through about how those thoughts and deeds that you have created in turn affect others – by then bringing to you the reflection of those experiences through your own lens.
It really is never intended to be punishment, but we so often see great tears and great forlorn emotions arising from such “karmic blasts”.
IF YOU REACH CERTAIN GOALS, NEW ONES WILL MOVE INTO VIEW
Each soul chooses an incarnation for a particular purpose. There are indeed goals that you have set out to achieve, prior to ever taking on this body you now enjoy.
Should these goals be achieved, your Higher Self is more than capable of upgrading the software, so to speak, and bringing in new levels of the curriculum of evolution that may not even have been chosen for you in one lifetime otherwise.
It is not as if you stop growing once you reach a certain level.
THE DEATH IS PSYCHOLOGICAL BUT MAY INVOLVE PHYSICAL LOSSES AS WELL
The death of this distorted personality self is a psychological event, which may also be heralded by certain physical consequences and upheavals in your own life: the loss of a significant relationship, the loss of prestige, the loss of assets and financial instruments, the loss of pride.
Whatever the consequences may be, it is quite accurate to reflect upon the non-random nature of your experiences.
EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON
It is an illusion to assume that things have happened to you without causation in a spiritual sense.
I fully understand how difficult this can be to appreciate, for the mind is conditioned to see itself in an acausal universe.
PRIVACY AND SECRECY IS AN ILLUSION IN THE HIGHER SENSE
It is believed that there is no “glass ceiling” as you go about your private thoughts within your own mind.
Many have utilized the illusory nature of privacy and secrecy to foster this apparent notion of the ‘hidden’ and the unrevealed.
On the other hand, you can shut down these false perceptions very easily, by opening yourself to the significance of each and every moment of your life.
THE LAW OF KARMA WORKS MUCH STRONGER FOR THE POSITIVE
Nothing happens by accident. And the law of Karma works just as well – in fact, much more effectively – in returning and remunerating positive gifts to others as it does in balancing that which is deemed as an infringement upon others.
The counterbalance of positive karma is actually much more significant than any negative backlash you may feel has occurred.
YOU ARE IN A MASTER CLASS OF TRANSFIGURATION
So let’s not kid ourselves about the greater implications of what you go through.
It is not something that leads up to a person becoming similar to David or others with his intuitive talents.
What you are growing into will go far, far beyond that level.
This is a master class.
And the goal is nothing more than transfiguration.
YOU CAN CATCH THE WAVE – AND BECOME INTOXICATED WITH LOVE
You do have the opportunity to “catch the wave” of transformation that flows through your planet at this time, and [it] can captivate you in its good will to the point where you do become intoxicated with love – not in any negative way, but an overwhelmingly joyful remembrance of your true identity as the One Infinite Creator.
In that moment, you have become akin to a gas station.
Others are naturally filled with abundance by simply being in your presence.
There is a positive attitude that radiates from you without there being naïveté.
APPRECIATE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHY THESE THINGS HAPPEN
In such cases you are able to see through the seeming pain and destruction of certain experiences that come along, and appreciate the deeper significance of why these things are meant to happen.
THE EXPERIENCE OF A PHYSICAL UNIVERSE INTRODUCES DUALITY
This illusion of a physical universe with stars, planets and voids of space has been carefully and delicately constructed from a single thought – a single identity that is One.
Of course, the experience of a physical universe introduces apparent duality into this Identity.
REMEMBERING YOUR TRUE SELF
However, with this apparent duality comes the shackling of an aspect of the mind to a continuum of incarnations and strenuous experiences in the course of its remembrance of its true self.
Cascading like a waterfall through each and every new twist and turn in the plot, your beingness approaches itself yet again.
For every experience, every environment, every other self you meet is but a reflection of the timelessness and the foreverness of your own identity.
That is the great realization that collapses the mysteries of the physical world.
That is the moment where you no longer see your environment as somehow separate from yourself, or your experiences as somehow separate from yourself.
YOU ARE THE COSMOS
Your identity is the Earth. It is the others around you. It is the planets. It is the Sun. It is the Galaxy. It is the Cosmos. And it is all the different densities within said Cosmos.
Let us be clear that even a single moment of realization of your cosmic identity can be more than enough to brighten up the walls and let a little light in to a room that may at times have felt like solitary confinement.
But you are not confined to a body.
YOU ARE NOT RESTRICTED BY BEING ON EARTH
You have not been restricted by incarnating on Earth at this time – or whatever planet you may be reading this from, or hearing these words within.
Instead, the table has been set for you to come and have a meal that is the harvest of your own labors.
WHAT YOU ARE BEING SERVED IS WHAT YOU HAVE CULTIVATED
Nothing that comes your way is by accident.
It is the result of what you have created.
So like the farmer who enjoys her home-grown vegetables with each meal, your life is akin to a meal. And what you are being served is what you have cultivated.
A LOSS OF STABILITY IS OFTEN NECESSARY TO OPEN YOU TO SPIRIT
If you do not appreciate what life has been serving up, look to that which you have cultivated for insights into how you may seemingly improve your experience.
This does not require exceptional talent or even stability in any physical or financial sense.
In fact, the more destabilized you become, the more open you are to receiving these messages from Spirit within your own dance of existence.
It is in those moments when the comfort and convenience of the physical world are disrupted that you then have even more opportunities to turn within and rely upon that trust.
LEARN TO TRUST THE GREATER INITIATIVE RATHER THAN OVER-ANALYZING
I wouldn’t get too concerned about the stages that you will go through, or what will happen and when.
These are the flailings of the egoic mind in its attempt to control the experiences it shall have, rather than handing over its delicate and fastidious analytical abilities to the much greater trust that can come with an awakening to the initiative that has been brought through to this planet by its very existence within this Cosmos.
You don’t need to over-analyze. You don’t need to judge. And you don’t need to fear.
EVERY EXPERIENCE IS A MIRROR
Whatever experience comes your way, even if it is strenuous and difficult, know that at this magical time in your planet’s history, it is manifested for a specific purpose.
In almost all cases, it serves as the mirror – showing you a slightly, if not greatly exaggerated version of what you yourself have been doing.
EVEN THE VILLAINS WILL EVENTUALLY GO POSITIVE – OR ELSE DISSOLVE BACK INTO UNIVERSAL ENERGY
In order for this illusion to work properly, those who would serve as villains must be led to believe that what they are doing is part of their own cosmic destiny and plan.
And in some senses, that is true.
However, even those who have indulged in the left-hand or service-to-self path shall most likely turn positive – as the other option is, of course, to eventually dissolve back into the background energy of the Universe.
This comes in time, over what you would consider many, many eons – but the shift can be made quite rapidly once greater illumination is attained.
OUR TEACHINGS ABOUT INITIATION WERE GREATLY DISTORTED
Long ago, in your physical terms, we visited your planet and gave certain teachings about the integration of the Higher Self with the mortal flesh.
We spoke in detail about the necessity of the death of this egoic mind and its constructs.
We also offered a path of initiation whereby this procedure could be dramatized in the course of sacred work.
As you probably well know, or have intuited, these practices were not lost – but the compassionate nature of them was indeed filtered away in the apparent violence of that which transpires during the course of one’s own initiation.
It was believed that God, if you will, was a rapacious, destructive force with sharp teeth and little concern for your sorrows as you go through the great churning upheavals of the personality self.
It was believed that chaos was the key to evolution, and the deliberate creation of chaos an essential element of compassionately helping others to evolve to their potential.
WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE HOW SEVERELY OUR MESSAGE WOULD BE CONTORTED
We now understand the necessity for this type of misunderstanding to have arisen, but it does not mean that we agree with such a perspective.
It should be obvious that after many thousands of years, a phenomenon not unlike the telephone game can happen – and many misunderstandings can and will occur.
What we did not anticipate was the degree to which those beings in the Universe who lean towards the negative path would be capable of contorting our message beyond all rational nuances.
We did not anticipate that it would lead to the worshipping of death and chaos as if it were a spiritual path.
THOSE WHO WISH FOR CHAOS HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH THE ORIGINAL TEACHINGS
At this time, there are those active within your planetary elite who very much wish to incite chaos on a planetary level.
In their blood lust, they have completely lost touch with whatever it was they felt this process would do that was positive.
Their own sense of egotism has grown far beyond the ability to self-reflect and understand the compassion with which these messages were originally offered.
MANY WITHIN THE ELITE ARE NOW AWAKENING TO GENUINE COMPASSION
What intrigues us, however, is to observe how many of those who are within these groups are coming now to a personal realization about the greater nature of what it means to be human, and the compassion for others that comes out of that understanding.
To actually worship and embrace chaos and death as if that were the path is to greatly move away from the most natural, organic feelings within oneself – which is the desire to love and be loved in return.
THE TORTOISE AND THE HARE
It seems so simple, and yet much as in the legend of the tortoise and the hare, the calm persistence of love will eventually win out over the seemingly rapid race run by those who believe themselves to be far ahead of the game at this time, in the planetary sense.
There is no need to repeat the lessons for millennia and millennia, but if that is what has been chosen [by those within the elite], then it shall be honored by the Universe.
AN INCREASING NUMBER OF DEFECTORS
An increasing number of defectors are coming out at this time, for they appreciate others on a level where this sardonic glee in their sorrow no longer has any emotional resonance.
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH CHAOS FROM THE FORCES OF NATURE ALONE
It was believed that by fomenting chaos, order would result – and that this was a compassionate action.
However, at this time, the transitions your planet is going through create more than enough emotionally valuable experience for others to move through. There is no need for any other forms of chaos to be introduced.
THOSE ON THE NEGATIVE PATH WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROCEED PAST CERTAIN LEVELS
With that being said, it is also the case that those who would wish to deliberately create such upheaval will find themselves unable to ever proceed past certain levels.
And thus you do see many plans that have been made, and continue to be made – and literally a religious worshipping of the thought and the idea of that worldwide disruption and chaos coming to fruition.
It is what many of these insider groups cling to like a life raft, as they well understand that in the teachable moments of chaos, there are opportunities to shift the equation and create sudden and explicit changes in how societies run and how peoples may think and conduct themselves.
Yet, these plans will continue to be foiled by a seemingly hidden force. They will continue to just not work out.
There will be upsets and seemingly inexplicable problems.
Expectations, computer modelings will just not work out the way they had been planned.
Somehow, things always change in a way that benefits the collective.
THEIR DOWNFALL COMES FROM WITHIN
The identification and exposure of these negative groups is happening from within.
It does not require any Universal admission from higher forces, stepping in and manifesting before you on a planetary level, to then tell you what has been going wrong and why it must be stopped.
Instead, the transformation is happening now – from within the groups themselves.
There are various factions, and then within those factions there are further sub-factions, and so on – ad infinitum.
The point is that these different factional groups turned against one another because the very nature of these elite super-secret societies is to worship betrayal, and to constantly hunt around the pecking order for one’s position.
There are inevitable and invariable challenges to any perceived hierarchy of authority, and no one can agree upon the goals or the fulfillment or the timelines with which said fulfillments will occur.
LACK OF CONSENSUS CAUSES A ‘DUMBING DOWN’
There is, in a very real sense, a dumbing down that happens as a result of this lack of consensus.
Overall goals are still espoused as being of great significance and value, but there are many, many denominations of faith, if you will, each of whom believe their path to be the right one – and that their ticket shall win the lottery when the time comes.
Of course, we are now speaking to some of those within these groups in this message, as well as others who simply appreciate our perspective, but are not in any way actively involved.
MOST EXTRATERRESTRIALS ARE BENEVOLENT – AND CANNOT INTERFERE BEYOND A MINIMAL LEVEL
It is absolutely true that the vast majority of extraterrestrials are benevolent and peaceful in nature.
It is also true that they operate within, to some extent, a structured illusion of their own.
They are obliged to help and participate in this planet’s evolution by working with so many on a spiritual level as guides, protectors and wayshowers.
That is not to say that they understand the greater inevitability of the change that is happening.
They too need to be inspired by the potential threat that they perceive – that these events may not go in the way that is most beneficial for humanity.
And the charter they must work within at that level does not permit them to interfere with what is going on beyond a minimum level.
AT ‘MANAGEMENT’ LEVEL A GREAT DEAL OF INTERVENTION OCCURS
However, the level at which we operate is a level in which we can indeed manage and transfer planetary populations.
You are free to laugh at this if you choose, but know that there are levels of the game, if you would call it that – this evolution of consciousness – wherein these planetary ascension procedures are carefully guarded and guided.
IT MUST APPEAR THAT NO INTERVENTION HAS EVER TAKEN PLACE
In order to do our job most effectively, we must work from a level wherein it does not seem that anything is being done at all.
Coincidences seem to happen. Things just have a way of working out.
Every time that a destructive event is thwarted, it could be very much analyzed and traced back to easily discernible causes that seem to have nothing to do with spiritual intervention.
That is the nature of how we work.
YOU ARE HELPED ON A LEVEL EVEN THE BENEVOLENT ET’S ARE NOT AWARE OF
There is a level which you do not perceive, which even the benevolent extraterrestrials who help your planet usually are not aware of.
This level does not involve sudden manifestation of ships throughout your skies – at least not until the appropriate moment has been reached.
For you are indeed rejoining a Galactic family of humans. That is one of the greatest metaphysical truths you can approach.
YOU HAVE MANY, MANY FRIENDS IN THE UNIVERSE
How truly well-populated this Universe is with those who would be as your friends!
For they are not “aliens”. They are not other than you. They are your Self, as they are made of the same Consciousness that has imbued this Cosmos with the awareness you now enjoy as you hear these words.
How can they be anything other than very close encounters when they happen?
It is a family reunion. A rejoining with aspects of your Self that you may indeed seem to have lost – but truly were never far away.
TIME-VIEWING TECHNOLOGIES DO NOT SEE THE ACTUAL TIMELINES THAT WILL OCCUR
Even the devices that the planetary elite would use to view through time and see events that have not yet transpired can be easily modified by these higher forces, if you will, so as not to telegraph what will actually transpire.
Otherwise, the game would be spoiled.
WE CALL IT A ‘GAME’ BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A WAY YOU CAN ‘WIN’
And the reason why we keep referring to this as a game is not to denigrate, in any way, the value and the importance of one’s individual experience.
It is instead to uplift the nature of what you experience with the knowingness that it is all part of a curriculum that is headed towards a destination.
There is indeed a way in which the game may be won, for lack of a better term.
APPRECIATING WHO YOU REALLY ARE
Winning the game involves appreciating who you are.
And that is the greatest question you can ever ask yourself.
To meditate on the truth of your identity, and the vastness of that truth, is to eclipse the apparent significance of all the things the body would like to have –
all the comfort and all the material pleasures it would seek to stack around itself –
and replace those longings with the greater knowingness that in every moment, regardless of how difficult it may seem at the time, this truth of your Identity is right there.
And it comes to you through simply awakening to the purity and stillness of the Now.
SEE ETERNITY IN THIS MOMENT
This moment contains love. This moment contains peace. This moment is eternal.
And even the nature of Time as that which indicates duration must ultimately fall away, for Timelessness is accessible in the moment as well.
No past, no future – merely Existence. But it is not that mere. It is much greater and vaster than most could ever comprehend within the constructs of a finite mortal mind.
THE FINITE MORTAL MIND IS A SPRINGBOARD TO YOUR COSMIC IDENTITY
Thankfully, the finite, mortal mind does not represent the fullness of who you are.
It is a jumping-off point – a vehicle through which you may indeed embrace your cosmic identity, and catch a glimpse of that greater I AM presence that you can step into at any time.
YOU NEED NOT FEAR THE PROCESS
The experiences that are being offered to you at this point are truly monumental. And you need not fear the process.
For in the greater sense, you are the light. You are the love. You are the One Infinite Creator.
This is as it was, as it is now, and as it always shall be. And nothing and no one can take that from you.
TURN WITHIN AND YOU WILL RECEIVE ANSWERS
We stand at the ready, willing to assist any and all who call upon us for support.
Rather than tormenting this instrument, David, with requests for his time and energy, you need only turn within.
For you are the Cosmos. You are Eternity.
If you appreciate our vibrations, you are more than welcome to call upon us for support.
And there are many others to assist you as well. We are but one voice.
We thank you, and remind you that you are indeed loved more than you could ever possibly imagine. Adonai, and amen.
Victoria Tintagel
5th September 2010, 06:32
Thanks onawah, I had intended to do what you did here, posting the whole text. I just thought of saving space on the site, just checked the link, it works fine.
Cheerio!
Humble Janitor
5th September 2010, 08:21
Great reading and in a way, I went through a similar upheaval about a year ago. I think that was my turning point because a year later, I have gained quite a bit of knowledge from that one loss of stability in my life.
lightblue
5th September 2010, 10:35
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in my mind, mr wilcock is losing the plot...sad...just what is he on about?
i don't think he knows either...the whole article is non-sequential..it reads like a patchwork of notes entered into his own diary for further elaboration...
example: he writes he knows how TPTB feel (!!!!!) i think that's preposterous...i highlighted the most absurd lines for your attention..the article is packed full of them..
NEGATIVE GROUPS TRY TO REDUCE POPULATION – BUT THIS IS HOW PLANETARY AWAKENING TAKES PLACE
It is absolutely correct that these power groups wish to dramatically reduce population on Earth.
They also feel that this is a benevolent action due to the consequences of the so-called “population bomb” – if the numbers were left unchecked.
There are indeed complications involved in any such population boom.
However, those complications are part of the greater picture of the apparent planetary crisis you shall be faced with at the end of an era such as this.
You have not exceeded the boundaries of any such universal plan or initiative.
It is instead extremely consistent with what has come before on many other worlds.
THESE PROCESSES ARE GUIDED VERY CAREFULLY – AND ARE NOT MEANT TO INVOLVE MASS DEATH
The changes that will transpire are not meant to involve mass death and casualties.
There are certain unavoidable losses, from the physical perspective, that will occur.
This is the result of so many hazardous situations that portray themselves to you as palpable threats to your existence.
Please be advised that these processes are guided very carefully, so as to preserve free will – such that no one meets with an experience that is other than most useful for them at that time.
NO ONE IN THE HIGHER REALMS ENJOYS SEEING YOU SUFFER
Remember your soul is outside physical form. It chooses an incarnation such as the one you now have for the purposes of its own evolution.
Everything in this material world that you see around you is ultimately holographic. That being said, no one in the higher realms eagerly anticipates you feeling pain, or being injured, or going through upsetting events.
There is no sarcasm nor sardonic glee in watching you go through your darkest moments as a person.
honestly....:wacko2: l
Ixopoborn
5th September 2010, 10:56
I may be misunderstnading Lightblue a little here. David Wilcocks is an prominent activist in ufology and for this reason alone derserves much respect. It is not easy work, to say the least of it.
Lightblue touches upon a problem which can't be eliminated from this field of enquiry or any other for that matter. Were does pure truth stop and personal "spin" begin? Channelling should be accepted as a potentially decisive information source but one which is likely to be subject to relatively high amounts of spin or human input which distort the information, tranmission losses if you prefer. David is a channeller who uses his dreams or channelling as the inspiration for grounded research. This is a respectable approach probably born from an awareness that it is good to check!
I think we should be less hasty in challenging the odd flaw in his work - there are bound to be many. My experience tells me that channelled information is inherently full of flaws but, surely, the flaws are not the point.
Dont place great reliance on channelled information but equally dont be highly critical of it. Better to accept it into the information pool without high criticism or high reliance and look for independant corroboration elsewhere.
Tigger
5th September 2010, 11:18
Hmmm, I tend to agree with lightblue on this one. David’s channelled material makes me feel really uneasy – it is out of character with his earlier works. I also think it was a mistake for him to make predictions about disclosure and that certainly doesn’t aid me in placing too much confidence in his posts right now. Perhaps the man is getting tired – he is after all, working very hard getting his ‘Convergence’ work out there.
Don't get me wrong - I truly respect DW and his work - he has put out some incredibly valuable material, especially the “Shift of the Ages” and “Divine Cosmos”. I’ve read and re-read those earlier works many times now and I still find it to be very well done. I wouldn’t go so far as to say David was losing the plot, but it definitely concerns me that he may be burning the candle at both ends recently.
lightblue
5th September 2010, 11:35
ixoprobon:
Re: David Wilcocks newsletter sept. 4th 2010 Prepare for Transfiguration
I may be misunderstnading Lightblue a little here. David Wilcocks is an prominent activist in ufology and for this reason alone derserves much respect. It is not easy work, to say the least of it.
Lightblue touches upon a problem which can't be eliminated from this field of enquiry or any other for that matter. Were does pure truth stop and personal "spin" begin? Channelling should be accepted as a potentially decisive information source but one which is likely to be subject to relatively high amounts of spin or human input which distort the information, tranmission losses if you prefer. David is a channeller who uses his dreams or channelling as the inspiration for grounded research. This is a respectable approach probably born from an awareness that it is good to check!
I think we should be less hasty in challenging the odd flaw in his work - there are bound to be many. My experience tells me that channelled information is inherently full of flaws but, surely, the flaws are not the point.
Dont place great reliance on channelled information but equally dont be highly critical of it. Better to accept it into the information pool without high criticism or high reliance and look for independant corroboration elsewhere.
from everything i know about mr wilcock, he prides himself with a scientific logic and tends to corraborate his material with other sources...given his reputation you are remindig me of and the fact that he enjoys a largish readership, wouldn't you expect his latest entry to come with a disclaimer - if not for any other, than for his reputation's sake?
This is a respectable approach probably born from an awareness that it is good to check!
i worry about the "probably" in your sentence/thought.
I think we should be less hasty in challenging the odd flaw in his work - there are bound to be many. My experience tells me that channelled information is inherently full of flaws but, surely, the flaws are not the point.
Dont place great reliance on channelled information but equally dont be highly critical of it. Better to accept it into the information pool without high criticism or high reliance and look for independant corroboration elsewhere.
i think the flaws are exectly THE point...in this context a FLAW stands for a lie...i personally have less and less time and patience for lies...why do you propose i should knowingly absorb lies into my system....i don't accept that notion, no.. best wishes :yu: l
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Ixopoborn
5th September 2010, 15:08
Yes Lightblue I accept that David can be a bit flakey at times. As a channeller, David strikes me as being a good operator subject to the usual caveat which applies to all channelled information - the source is so subjective that a lot of extra care is needed before relliance can be placed.
As a scientist, David strikes me as being no where close to the level required to hold his own in the company of full time salaried scientists. Nonetheless, that he tries to apply a scientific approach to his own work is, I think you will agree, to his credit. I was not aware of any actual lies in the text.
I think what I was trying to do was offer a little support for a tireless campaigner, as David undoubtedly is. I dont exactly disagree with you and the note my post struck may have been a little off key - its just I cant stop remembering that his work has and continues to be instrumental in bringing more and more folk into and behind the cause of our campaign. We need the support of millions more if we are to win through in the battle in which I am sure all Avalonians have chosen to engage.
lightblue
5th September 2010, 16:08
ixoprobon:
I think what I was trying to do was offer a little support for a tireless campaigner, as David undoubtedly is. I dont exactly disagree with you and the note my post struck may have been a little off key - its just I cant stop remembering that his work has and continues to be instrumental in bringing more and more folk into and behind the cause of our campaign. We need the support of millions more if we are to win through in the battle in which I am sure all Avalonians have chosen to engage.
thanks for your response...i think i can see how you feel about this subject now..
i don't however think that truthseeking can benefit from being political...
bestest, l
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kcw_one
5th September 2010, 16:23
I have been following DW's work for several years now, and I will first say that I have enjoyed the balance he makes between scientific findings and the esoteric/spiritual aspect he draws connections with. As with any researcher in this field, it would be a mistake to forget that he is HUMAN. Like all of us here on this planet now, he is undergoing his own process in this shift, and as any of us can attest it is not easy. Like anyone else, he is not a divine god-like being any more than you or me, and his channelled work does have to pass through HIM as the mechanism. He has mused over the past years about the haters that rave on about this or that, picking on his musical pursuits or taking one comment out of an entire post and running away with it. I have a great amount of respect for this man, both as a alt-media personality and ad a fellow truthseeker. I do not always resonate with every last detail of what he says, but such is the case for all of the other sources that I glean information from. Like him or not, he works tirelessly to help open up further possibilities for mass awakening.
One point I wanted to address that has been raised a few times before about David and others in the alt-media realm is the fact that they charge money for their products, services and seminars. One question I have for any who would have a beef about that is would any these complainers go to their job for free? I wouldn't. I teach in a public school, and while I feel I have found a job I love, I still have bills to pay and I'd love to be able to afford some f the finer things in life. These folks are doing good works, and deserve to be compensated.
One more detail about DW that may help in understanding his work is that he is purported to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce. This is something David doesn't really promote. If you look into the Cayce readings, it is revealed that Cayce was an eqyptian preist-type character way back, who came to help raise the consciousness of the humans. His name was Ra-ta back then, and he was somehow a representative of the entity known as Ra. I am paraphrasing the story very roughly, so i may have the details wrong, but I think the intelligence that DW channels is this Ra entity. Look into it for yourself if you what the background.
Snowbird
5th September 2010, 16:39
lightblue: in my mind, mr wilcock is losing the plot...sad...just what is he on about?
i don't think he knows either...the whole article is non-sequential..it reads like a patchwork of notes entered into his own diary for further elaboration...
example: he writes he knows how TPTB feel (!!!!!) i think that's preposterous...i highlighted the most absurd lines for your attention..the article is packed full of them..
My association with David Wilcock is no more or less than my association with others who unselfishly offer their talents and spiritual maturity for the benefit of those who care to partake. I find it very interesting to have tapped into this thread and read through the channeling before reading the associated posts.
When the message began, I too was a bit startled by my assumption that DW was offering his own opinion. Then of course, I caught myself and clarified my own thoughts, in that I corrected those thoughts. DW was channeling a message from a group of cosmic origin. DW, IMO, did not write that he understands how TPTB feel. This was a direct message from the group. They were making statements that were speaking not only to us, but also to TPTB, some of whom read these messages....and hopefully benefit from same.
I would like to ask you, lightblue, what is the plot that you think DW is losing? From my understanding, when a channeled message comes through, the messenger does not have choice as to what is brought forth. But then, I've never channeled, so I may be wrong. Yes, of course, there is a degree of self stemming through the messenger, but not such that the entire message be thrown out. We discern and take what is relevant to each of us and leave the rest. It is highly possible that DW's channeled messages are not relevant to yourself.
I'm going out on a limb here, because I perceived this message as very relevant to myself and the "collective" here on Earth. This message was speaking to different groups here on this Earth for different reasons in attempt to coalesce for the good as our future waves into being.
O.I.C.
Arpheus
5th September 2010, 17:15
I am not going to discredit the message that is not my intent,but i had to LOL when it was said that the elite were awakening and starting to realize and feel different about everything,as if all of the sudden they are gonna feel any kind of remorse for all the evil they have done?I mean you can't be serious?Gimme a break that is so not true,if that was true we would be seeing the effects of it right now and i dont see any, anyone else care to comment on this??
Snowbird
5th September 2010, 17:26
I am not going to discredit the message that is not my intent,but i had to LOL when it was said that the elite were awakening and starting to realize and feel different about everything,as if all of the sudden they are gonna feel any kind of remorse for all the evil they have done?I mean you can't be serious?Gimme a break that is so not true,if that was true we would be seeing the effects of it right now and i dont see any, anyone else care to comment on this??
The Cosmic group stated that some of TPTB are awakening. They also, appropriately, added a definition of Karma to this message (below). This indicated to me that they have some incarnations to look forward to until they complete their Karmic debt. From DW's message, TPTB have the choice of turning their lives and their attitudes around or their soul essence will be essentially dissolved and scattered to the Universe.
O.I.C.
THE LAW OF KARMA IS IN EFFECT
However, there is what many have termed the law of karma in effect.
This, of course, means that what you measure out to others shall be measured back to you.
THE LAW OF KARMA WORKS MUCH STRONGER FOR THE POSITIVE
Nothing happens by accident. And the law of Karma works just as well – in fact, much more effectively – in returning and remunerating positive gifts to others as it does in balancing that which is deemed as an infringement upon others.
The counterbalance of positive karma is actually much more significant than any negative backlash you may feel has occurred.
kcw_one
5th September 2010, 17:41
I'll comment Arpheus.
When we talk about the illuminati or NWO or "powers that (shouldn't) be" we a referring to an apparatus of many levels. The true elite, those that have the true overview and understand the plans from the top level, may indeed be so far down their negative spiritual path that it seems inconceivable that they could ever have a change of heart. There are, however, many people involved in the plots and control schemes at lower levels of the pyramid who find themselves in their position due to inheritance, deception, manipulation, or a combination of these. Many of these people are not evil, but cooperate in negative activities because they feel they have no choice. Keep in mind that the true elite are nit even united amongst themselves, as deception and betrayal are key features of the negative path. Pawns in their game would leave if they felt they could safely do so. I'd imagine that the number of people who actually believe in the ends that the elite are reaching for is surprisingly few. The NWO crowd build their apparatus based on fear, deception and manipulation. If the house of cards they've built were (and it will, bet in it) to fall, then the many minions they rely on to do their bidding and carry out their global plans would jump ship and their power to wreck stuff would diminish to the level of a toddler with a foam bat.
There are people waking up at an impressive rate. Just because you don't see these folks broadcasting their new ideas and attitudes doesn't mean that the significant internal processes aren't happening. Do you remember when your awakening process began? I remember my beginning. I was terribly afraid of letting people know the kind of books I was reading or the new thoughts I was having for fear of being seen as weird or crazy.
Don't take what you see happening on a macro scale as indicative of what is happening for the individual. Events have been set in motion which will have to play out to whatever end -- just don't be too surprised if events turn out WAY less terrible than was feared.
Arpheus
5th September 2010, 19:09
Well said kcw_one.:peace:
SPIRIT WOLF
5th September 2010, 20:07
I'll probably be shouted down by many of you but I care not, my job is to shake your shoulders to return you to the real world should you venture off the path. From experience of over 40 years, with a foot in both camps at times, white hats, black hats, and knowing how they see the real World, I'm amazed at the past few years of this enlightenment crap being spewed by several individuals. Those in charge, those that set the pace and do the actual running of society are having belly laughs at the ever growing movement of society thinking its going to become super enlightened super beings. A global shift in consciousness? Its a simple awakening of seeing who we really are and not the dumbed down sheep the controllers have long planned for. Thats all it is, just seeing the lies deceit and manipulation the elite have hold of society. Sorry, do not buy into David Wilcock and his airy fairy ramblings.
Anchor
5th September 2010, 22:54
Violet flashes in. Circumstances as they are today would be better if you were able to approach the throne of the Divine like this as often as possible.
Made me smile. I read that as David being spanked by his higher self for not doing this more often.
I read the whole thing. I felt it was a good message, matched my understanding of things and had an overall resonant quality - this is more like the old DW and not the hollywood DW, very timely as well.
John..
Anchor
5th September 2010, 23:23
I would like to ask you, lightblue, what is the plot that you think DW is losing? From my understanding, when a channeled message comes through, the messenger does not have choice as to what is brought forth. But then, I've never channeled, so I may be wrong.
I have - and you are not wrong from the way I see it.
The choice is within the limits of the request for information. None is given unless the request - at some level - is made.[1]
Snowbird, thanks for posting your response in this thread - it was very good!
John..
[1] and if that turns out not to be true - be very suspect !
pilotsimone
6th September 2010, 00:05
Wilcock drives the cynics c-r-a-z-y. :nod:
lightseeker
6th September 2010, 00:50
Thankyou for your comments Ixopoborn, I read David Wilcocks most recent contribution on his website yesterday. Channelling information is often full of flaws as you state, I have known this for some time. I appreciate David Wilcocks work and the very positive way he interprets what is happening at this time. I have had the opportunity to read his entire website ( I am retired), and have lots of time to do this). He has always been consistant in his presentations and views on a variety of issues. It cannot be easy to put yourself out in the public domain as he does and many others, at this time. I find him to be a beacon of light in an ever increasing darker world. There are or course many like Wilcock who are very dedicated to telling the truth as they see it, and also being vehicles to get the truth out to all of us. I very much appreciate these truth tellers such as Wilcock, Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy and so many other very brave and dedicated people. Blessings to all of them for their efforts and dedication.
Humble Janitor
6th September 2010, 01:01
Wilcock drives the cynics c-r-a-z-y. :nod:
They are more than welcome to question him. I just find that I resonate more with him than any other figure. He seems highly optimistic about things and I don't see anything wrong with that. The way he writes has the ability to elicit positive feelings for me, feelings of love.
I'll stop here since I'm sure someone will come in to criticize him once again.
kcw_one
6th September 2010, 02:19
To spiritwolf:
You have of course the right to your own opinion on this or any other matter, but I must respectfully disagree with your viewpoint that all that is happening now is the realization of the nature of the control structure we currently live with. As one who has had a glimpse of what is behind the curtain, so to speak, I have my own personal proof that a much greater change is upon us -- at least for my part. Obviously this statement will hold no water for those who demand proof in their hands, but I have personally experienced more than just noticing the load of rubbish that we've been sold over the millennia. Clearly seeing the truth of the illusion is part of it, but there is so much more to it. I haven't for one second "bought in" to david's or any other presenter's material, but I do agree with his points of view in many cases as it resonates with what I've learned and seen for myself. Again, I could just be making this up and just be another airy fairy fool who's yet again been deceived, and you'd never know for sure. But that doesn't matter to me. I like what David has to say, and I think history will show that there is something to all of this consciousness shift stuff. We'll have to wait and see, won't we?
lightblue
6th September 2010, 19:16
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[SIZE="3"]isn't david wilcock channelling entity called ra? isn't entity ra one time deity of ancient egyptians? isn't david wilcock talking to spirits?
bill cooper gives it some more thought[ (post #289)/SIZE]:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth/page30
kcw_one
6th September 2010, 19:36
Anyone who channels, be it some non-physical entity or their own "inner/higher self" could be said to be talking to "spirits". We have a habit of referring to any non-physical intelligence as a "spirit", when in fact what we all really are is spirits. The spooky "spirit" moniker doesn't go very far to describing anything about the entity who is being communicated with.
As far as the point about Ra, yes Ra was featured in the early mysticism of the ancient Egyptians, though I doubt our modern day understanding of these things is anywhere near accurate. Same goes for the pantheons of Greek, Roman or Norse "gods" that we've all heard about. From what I understand (primarily from reading the Law of One series) Ra was/is a non-physical "social memory complex" that came onto contact with people back then, for whatever purpose. In the Law of One, the stated purpose was to help advance the consciousness of the incarnated beings on the planet. As history has shown, there was limited success in this venture, as it appears that an elite priesthood of the time (the pharaohs, etc.) kept the information for their own selfish purposes, and as has happened so much throughout history, the original teachings were distorted. According to what the Law of One says, this lineage of elite priest-rulers has continued until this day, forming the basis of the negative-leaning spiritual/metaphysical understandings that the shadow rulers have been using to bamboozle the masses and keep themselves on top of the crap-heap, so to speak. As a result of this failed attempt at helping the humans, apparently this Ra group has found itself pulled into a karmic cycle of sorts due to the unforeseen consequences of their involvement with the humans.
You may want to do your own research in this line, of course, as my own understanding is admittedly limited.
john.d
6th September 2010, 19:37
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isn't david wilcock channelling entity called ra? isn't entity ra one time diety of ancient egyptians? isn't david wilcock talking to spirits?
bill cooper gives it some more thought: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth/page30
He claims to channel with Ra but im very skeptical . The 'Ra Material' was only possible because of three very special people in the 80's that dedicated their lives to it . Ive studied all four books and find them fascinating . Ive read some of the stuff Wilcock claims to be from Ra and its entirely different to the original material in every way .
I found the 'Ra material ' through David Wilcock , for which i will be eternaly gratefull ...... But im afraid im another one who thinks his ego has got the better of him .
John
Victoria Tintagel
6th September 2010, 21:06
My association with David Wilcock is no more or less than my association with others who unselfishly offer their talents and spiritual maturity for the benefit of those who care to partake. I find it very interesting to have tapped into this thread and read through the channeling before reading the associated posts.
When the message began, I too was a bit startled by my assumption that DW was offering his own opinion. Then of course, I caught myself and clarified my own thoughts, in that I corrected those thoughts. DW was channeling a message from a group of cosmic origin. DW, IMO, did not write that he understands how TPTB feel. This was a direct message from the group. They were making statements that were speaking not only to us, but also to TPTB, some of whom read these messages....and hopefully benefit from same.
I would like to ask you, lightblue, what is the plot that you think DW is losing? From my understanding, when a channeled message comes through, the messenger does not have choice as to what is brought forth. But then, I've never channeled, so I may be wrong. Yes, of course, there is a degree of self stemming through the messenger, but not such that the entire message be thrown out. We discern and take what is relevant to each of us and leave the rest. It is highly possible that DW's channeled messages are not relevant to yourself.
I'm going out on a limb here, because I perceived this message as very relevant to myself and the "collective" here on Earth. This message was speaking to different groups here on this Earth for different reasons in attempt to coalesce for the good as our future waves into being.
O.I.C.
Thank you, Snowbird, I think I can see where you are coming from, very well said!
steve_a
6th September 2010, 21:23
Hi lightblue,
I feel your frustration. The information is something that Alex Jones has been giving out for some years, however with the Wilcocks flavour. World depopulation has been thought about and documented for over one hundred years now.
All of these type, Dr. Beagle, David Wilcocks, Alex Jones (although he does bring the information out a little earlier), David Icke and the others, basically give out the same information but in a different way for a different audience, a little like a pop group giving their rendition of a certain song, to aim it at their 'client'. Of course there's nothing wrong with that, actually from the marketing point of view it's quite interesting to see how the different people use their different styles, some of it quite similarly. For example the Jeff Rense (www.rense.com) site has an automated news feed, as does David Icke's (www.davidicke.com) and from that feed they publish (or re-publish) quite a bit of information.
It seems that most of the different personalities use similar information and stick their twist, or interpretation, coming to their own conclusions and along with a tad of imagination and logic end up with their content. It's from this tad of imagination and logic where we see the small differences and the 'flaws' that you speak about.
We need to understand that most of these people are creative writers and need to be recognized as such. As they will often admit, they are not the real whistleblowers as such, the information on the whole is already out there, they are merely the story teller.
If any one of us does the research and have a flair for writing, we can also join the 'experts' and make a name for ourselves. ;)
Best regards,
Steve
SPIRIT WOLF
6th September 2010, 21:29
To spiritwolf:
You have of course the right to your own opinion on this or any other matter, but I must respectfully disagree with your viewpoint that all that is happening now is the realization of the nature of the control structure we currently live with. As one who has had a glimpse of what is behind the curtain, so to speak, I have my own personal proof that a much greater change is upon us -- at least for my part. Obviously this statement will hold no water for those who demand proof in their hands, but I have personally experienced more than just noticing the load of rubbish that we've been sold over the millennia. Clearly seeing the truth of the illusion is part of it, but there is so much more to it. I haven't for one second "bought in" to david's or any other presenter's material, but I do agree with his points of view in many cases as it resonates with what I've learned and seen for myself. Again, I could just be making this up and just be another airy fairy fool who's yet again been deceived, and you'd never know for sure. But that doesn't matter to me. I like what David has to say, and I think history will show that there is something to all of this consciousness shift stuff. We'll have to wait and see, won't we?
Thats fine if it works for you, resonates with you I think is current buzzwords. I'm from a more realistic and nuts n bolts world. History indeed will show that all the alleged channelers will then be seen as absurd conveyors of their own imaginations and gathering data from all around them and then spinning it to their own ends. As all know here I have no time for the charade we call channeling.
lightblue
6th September 2010, 22:04
steve_a:
It seems that most of the different personalities use similar information and stick their twist, or interpretation, coming to their own conclusions and along with a tad of imagination and logic end up with their content. It's from this tad of imagination and logic where we see the small differences and the 'flaws' that you speak about.
hi steve, i do appreciate your review and i think what you say is fair... your summary i think applies when it comes to the final format of the messages convayed and the latest wilcock's does talliy up with the existing - like you point out in your helpful analysis...only, we don't learn anything from it, it's merely hammering in what's already buzzing around and my feeling is that its' effect is concieved to do just that: HAMMER IT IN - for the ones who like to hear it in a prediction format.. it is not at all obvious what wilcock's stance may be on what he funnelled through, unlike bill's, icke's etc, where it is clear that this diabolical plan/agenda is presented as a warning, as a possible timeline/scenario...but wilcock sits back in his chair to let the "verdict" through, passes it on as a strong prediction, because hey "ra" never let him down before...in my world, this is no substance...no credibility...besides, who's that ra character? do we know if he comes from the higher realms - no...my suposition is quite the contrary even if i want to accept the channeled material as genuine..lots of people speak to spirits, they hardly know who they are speaking to - of course they are told the entities contacted are from the realms higher than ours...i dismiss wilcock's latest on the grounds of it not being usefull knowledge really....:yu: l
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steve_a
6th September 2010, 22:28
Hi Lightblue,
You're absolutely right and I understand what you're saying (I feel the same way most of the time, hence recent activities :) ). But there's one thing you seem to be missing which is important. Not everybody is as well informed as you are, so when they get some information that they didn't know previously it adds to the richness of the character (be it Wilcocks, Beagle et al). That's when the people really begin to buy into what is being said. So what could be peaving for you, I don't know anything about you in terms of experience, for someone who is recently drawn to these sort of subjects, this would probably be ground breaking stuff!
People who come to these sort of sites are already looking for the information and when they find a tit bit of info that they feel satisfied with, to satisfy their buzz, the rest is not so important, hence the comment somewhere else in this thread that said basically it was okay to be flawed, as they had found what they were looking for. Just as it was for you and I when we first started to get involved with this sort of alternative, conspiracy, geopolitical sort of sites. I took out New Worldy as that was a revamp of music from the 1980 from bands like Clannad and has now morphed into a spiritual sort of thing just as the Moonies were back in the late 60's early 70's. Don't get me started about trends! I could give Gerald Celente, whom I admire greatly, a good run for his money on social trends. Financial trends I'm still learning about!
Best regards,
Steve
lightblue
6th September 2010, 22:47
steve:
You're absolutely right and I understand what you're saying (I feel the same way most of the time, hence recent activities ). But there's one thing you seem to be missing which is important. Not everybody is as well informed as you are, so when they get some information that they didn't know previously it adds to the richness of the character (be it Wilcocks, Beagle et al). That's when the people really begin to buy into what is being said.
i don't feel i am all that well informed, but i do feel and agree with your observation (very well spotted) that a lot has to do with fine mudulation and embelishment of prominent characters in the field...in that respect, we are living a very dull day of consciousness enhancing...i don't feel there's much time left for vanities - i personally have less and less patience with frills designed to affect...knowledge protects, why would we settle for anything but what we draw knowledge from...:nhl_checking: l
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steve_a
6th September 2010, 23:00
Hi lightblue,
Check out Rá at the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra
This part of historyis interesting because all of 'mainstream' religion which we know of today is based on these initial Gods. Basically Wilcocks is saying that he is receiving messages from an ancient Egyptian God (jolly good for him I say).
I trust that all Wilcocks followers also know who Rá was and are equally informed about what he did, because if not Wilcocks could say that he got messages from Fred Bloggs and these people would still beleive him! Which wouldn't say a lot about his followers!!
Each one to their own I say. ;)
Best regards,
Steve
lightblue
6th September 2010, 23:10
steve:
sheck out Rá at the following link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra
This part of historyis interesting because all of 'mainstream' religion which we know of today is based on these initial Gods. Basically Wilcocks is saying that he is receiving messages from an ancient Egyptian God (jolly good for him I say).
and i think i shall...also, there's a rare video by bill cooper hevetic posted earlier on (his ongoing thread)..it tells you a thing or two about "ra"...it's worth a listen... bw :) l
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Anchor
6th September 2010, 23:45
I trust that all Wilcocks followers also know who Rá was and are equally informed about what he did, because if not Wilcocks could say that he got messages from Fred Bloggs and these people would still beleive him! Which wouldn't say a lot about his followers!!
That all depends - if they are judging the message rather than the messenger, or the mechanics of the delivery of that message. In the former case, it doesnt matter who gives the message or who is the alleged messenger does it? If you give credence to a message because of the messenger or the alledged identity of its source, then you are asking for trouble, because you overrode or neglected your responsibility to apply discernment.
If a fool instructs a wise man, the wise man becomes wiser. It does not matter that the instructor is considered a fool.
John..
norman
7th September 2010, 00:31
My strongest impression of all David's recent presentations is that he strongly "wills" a joining of dots. I think that most of the people who 'follow' his work are most likely getting a 'hit' off that sense of 'joining the dots'. I think we all love that sort of moment when we go "whaw!...I never quite saw it like that before"! David radiates those kinds of moments like quickfire and it's a delicate mental skill to discern between that and actual content.
I'd just say 'good for Wilcock' and get on with it but there may be a down side to it too. I think those "Whaw" moments are quite potent within our conciousness and take a hell of a lot more removing than what it took to let them 'lock in' in the first place. The big Whaw is so far removed from good solid self centered 'in the here and now' conciousness.
I'd go as far as to say that David Wilcock had BETTER be RIGHT ( on everything ) or else he could, with his charming personality etc, be doing considerable harm. An ALTERNATIVE big picture is only a good thing if it's the REAL big picture, otherwise it just displaces and confuses us even more and therefore probably plays right into the hands of the darkside again.
I don't know if what David is saying and doing is 'right' or not. It certainly makes you think though. While we're thinking, we're not actually 'here and now'. I don't want my "truth sensor" to stand down for any reason other than possibly the greater good of my/our general education. It's a tough call on whether allowing David Wilcock to 'entertain' me with is magnificent whaws is a good enough reason.
steve_a
7th September 2010, 01:21
Hi John,
I think the source of the message is important. The messenger not too much, which is why I try not to put these people on pedestal too much. Don't misunderstand me, I'm grateful for information that I wasn't aware of previously, but there are too many passers on of information and not all that many real journalists or reputable whistleblowers (this I mean as like Prison Planet, Wikileaks or similar) who get closer to the original source of the information.
The danger of not worrying about neither the source or the messenger, we could easily fall into the Soorcha Faal or similar area where we know that mostof the information is just an over fertile imagination. I'm not saying that there is no room for such, I'm sure there are many fans of these people out there, but they're not for me.
If a fool instructs a wise man with foolish things, the wise man would not be very wise to accept these things thinking that he is wiser for it. He then just becomes a man.
Best regards,
Steve
Anchor
7th September 2010, 01:59
The danger of not worrying about neither the source or the messenger, we could easily fall into the Soorcha Faal or similar area where we know that mostof the information is just an over fertile imagination. I'm not saying that there is no room for such, I'm sure there are many fans of these people out there, but they're not for me.
Disagree mostly, partially agree. Sure the fact that the source is known as soorcha faal would provide a useful shortcut to the discernment process, if you want. There are other ways to test the information that I am primarily interested in.
If a fool instructs a wise man with foolish things, the wise man would not be very wise to accept these things thinking that he is wiser for it. He then just becomes a man.
Exactly. The wise man discerns.
There is no guarantee that the fool's knowledge is a completely contained subset of the wise man's. (WTF did I just write - lol) Thus there is scope for instruction, but the wise man will always test that knowledge before granting it admission to his own store.
This process does not have to be instantaneous - sometimes it may be worth taking the time to do it properly.
I'd go as far as to say that David Wilcock had BETTER be RIGHT ( on everything ) or else he could, with his charming personality etc, be doing considerable harm. An ALTERNATIVE big picture is only a good thing if it's the REAL big picture, otherwise it just displaces and confuses us even more and therefore probably plays right into the hands of the darkside again.
This is a very good point. Anyone who does what he does, and that includes anyone who posts "fact" or purports to teach, takes on this responsibility. Teaching is serious business and you definately are moving up the scale in the karma stakes.
Often this kind of material has some boiler plate disclaimer such as "this information is offered, you must test it before accepting and it is your right to reject it if it is not relevant to you on your path at this time" and hand the responsibility down to the listener/reader. Even if that is not made explicit in every case, I would have thought it a valid disposition to maintain when deciding to accept information from any part of the universe that is not "you".
CetaceousOne
7th September 2010, 04:31
The latest message is encouraging, but I have grown very skeptical of blindly accepting
anything from anyone, especially when they are selling something.
These days, I am more inclined to accept something profound from someone who has nothing to gain
by sharing it.
Ixopoborn
7th September 2010, 11:47
Hi lightblue,
I feel your frustration. The information is something that Alex Jones has been giving out for some years, however with the Wilcocks flavour. World depopulation has been thought about and documented for over one hundred years now.
All of these type, Dr. Beagle, David Wilcocks, Alex Jones (although he does bring the information out a little earlier), David Icke and the others, basically give out the same information but in a different way for a different audience, a little like a pop group giving their rendition of a certain song, to aim it at their 'client'. Of course there's nothing wrong with that, actually from the marketing point of view it's quite interesting to see how the different people use their different styles, some of it quite similarly. For example the Jeff Rense (www.rense.com (http://www.rense.com)) site has an automated news feed, as does David Icke's (www.davidicke.com (http://www.davidicke.com)) and from that feed they publish (or re-publish) quite a bit of information.
It seems that most of the different personalities use similar information and stick their twist, or interpretation, coming to their own conclusions and along with a tad of imagination and logic end up with their content. It's from this tad of imagination and logic where we see the small differences and the 'flaws' that you speak about.
We need to understand that most of these people are creative writers and need to be recognized as such. As they will often admit, they are not the real whistleblowers as such, the information on the whole is already out there, they are merely the story teller.
If any one of us does the research and have a flair for writing, we can also join the 'experts' and make a name for ourselves. ;)
Best regards,
Steve
I just wanted to mention that I really enjoyed Steve's post and all those subsequent. I find myself agreeing with most of it. Steve's remarks about Wilcock, Deagle etc having a role more like that of a salesman - getting the message out to those who have not "bought" the material before.
Spirit Wolf's absolute rejection of channelled information is a respectable stance but not one I share entirely.
We listen to or read material of front line ufology figures to deepen our understanding and then get a little let down if some of it misses the mark or is just rehashed old stuff. I have been digging around this subject matter seriously now for only 6 years so dont classify myself as anything of an expert. One of my current favourites is Steve Bassett whose work I like a lot because it deals with the stuff that now interests me most - the question of, knowing what we know, how do we get the required changes in society to occur.
I favour giving the likes of Wilcock a big break because he is sucessfully doing work which I regard as important to achieving the breakthrough which is so badly needed. I dont necessarily agree with Wilcock but I want him to carry on doing his stuff and attracting more people to the subject. That way, I/we stand a better chance of getting what I think we all want.
lightblue
8th September 2010, 00:01
hi steve, i think bill cooper made a memorable analysis of how and why "ra" is used by the secret societies (nwo illuminatii, masonery etc) ... whose legendary powers they want to emulate...if per chance (touch wood so it never) "ra" spoke to me in my dream state, i'd go and get exorcised...
"ra" is represented as a non-human looking (bird head, human body) with a snake encircled round head gear...not very gentle lookig ..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Re-Horakhty.svg/220px-Re-Horakhty.svg.png
the audio isn't great but it's well worth a listen..(post #289)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Truth/page30
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norman
8th September 2010, 00:25
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....."ra" is represented as a non-human looking (bird head, human body) with a snake encircled round head gear...not very gentle lookig ..
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errr..... Precisely..... Myst' is a wording to take very seriously when you find it, either overtly or hidden.....
Moths can't resist the flame either....haha...
steve_a
8th September 2010, 07:12
Hi lightblue,
It seems that you have just opened a can of worms there! Let's analyse a little what we've got here. David Wilcocks as I understand it receives channeled messages from Rá. Right? Rá, if Egyption history is correct as well as being depicted as the head of a bird with the serpant in a circle on its' head, became Horus during the fifth dynasty. Horus is the "All Seeing Eye" that we meet on the US dollar bill, which is cherished by the Illuminati. Thus it can be assumed that not only is David Wilcocks the Illuminati, he is like their Pope! He has direct contact with their God.
Once I saw a video of him when he came out of one of these meetings in an inebriated state doing what he claims were masonic handshakes with, if my memory serves me right, the guy who goes on about 'stargates' and was peaved about Henry Deacon, Dan Burisch I think his name is. He must be Illuminati (Wilcocks) and a very high up one at that!
Of course I jest, as I said in a previous post that these people are to be recognized as creative writers. However there is an interesting article from the David Icke website forum which I think deserves a good read, which more or less says how I feel about this whole topic. I am not the author of the article, by the way.
The following link: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63300
Best regards,
Steve
Victoria Tintagel
8th September 2010, 07:47
Quote from CetaceousOne "The latest message is encouraging, but I have grown very skeptical of blindly accepting anything from anyone"
Thanks CetacousOne! That's the spirit, isn't it? Nobody ever tells you what to accept, these newsletters are just for your and everyone's information.
It's not about being right or being wrong, different tones can make a beautiful song. Enjoy your day and be well!
lightblue
8th September 2010, 10:54
steve:
Re: David Wilcocks newsletter sept. 4th 2010 Prepare for Transfiguration
Hi lightblue,
It seems that you have just opened a can of worms there! Let's analyse a little what we've got here. David Wilcocks as I understand it receives channeled messages from Rá. Right? Rá, if Egyption history is correct as well as being depicted as the head of a bird with the serpant in a circle on its' head, became Horus during the fifth dynasty. Horus is the "All Seeing Eye" that we meet on the US dollar bill, which is cherished by the Illuminati. Thus it can be assumed that not only is David Wilcocks the Illuminati, he is like their Pope! He has direct contact with their God.
Once I saw a video of him when he came out of one of these meetings in an inebriated state doing what he claims were masonic handshakes with, if my memory serves me right, the guy who goes on about 'stargates' and was peaved about Henry Deacon, Dan Burisch I think his name is. He must be Illuminati (Wilcocks) and a very high up one at that!
Of course I jest, as I said in a previous post that these people are to be recognized as creative writers. However there is an interesting article from the David Icke website forum which I think deserves a good read, which more or less says how I feel about this whole topic. I am not the author of the article, by the way.
The following link: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63300
Best regards,
Steve
steve, many thanks for that article is what i 'd like to say...a very helpful analysis..
back to wilcock's buddy "ra" - too bad he, for the most part, if not exclusively, prescribes sitting back and relaxing, watching it all happen just the way you were told ... in my mind, this is a dogy doctrine...it reiterates what is commonly thought to be perfected by the controlling groups: undesrsatnding of the workings of human mind and manipulating it to the maximum effect for their purposes...only, i wonder if they can see that what they consider their own purpose may not in fact be theirs (david icke's work helps with this)....so, according to wilcock: sit back and someone else will take care of everything.. feel chosen and enjoy it... if you don't feel chosen, join a group of the one who "is", he/she will pass on to you. a message from the above realms...the message shall be given as an instruction package, so you really won't have to worry about anything...stay tuned, watch/read our material for further "advancement"...also and in other words: absorb the terms such as: "harvesting of souls" (as you got it already into your subconscious just by hearing of it), etc.. .i read into it : STAY DUMB, don't get in our way...i say: no thank you, i don't want to be or feel chosen, i don't fall for the cheap flattery, i'd much rather be the one who chooses...that's what i believe our human destiny is...
you know i can't help remembering what john lear slipped in during the interview with bill and kerry a while back (in camelot archives) - he said that during the moments of passing on, our souls are being collected by the grays and stored on the moon for recycling (in those words)....
i always wished they probed him more on that...
the sorry depth of entrapment seems a lot deeper and viciously mutilayered than we are given to believe..there's every reason to be vigilant, and certainly not laid back according to wilcock and others...our minds are fickle and i feel the collective humanity is not doing great in that respect...we mustn't lose the battle for our soul essence - is what i think has become a priority...we'll make it..
best wishes :yu: l
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Humble Janitor
10th September 2010, 01:25
@ steve_a
If Wilcock was truly "one of them", he would not be peddling messages that are positive and uplifting in nature. He'd just be a Fox News commentator instead. LOL.
Again, just another piece in the puzzle. The best thing one can do is hear it from all sides and then sort it out in their own mind. ;)
By the way, I like that link you posted. I needed something to bring me back down to earth. I won't shy away from something that makes me feel positive but too much of it can be dangerous.
Lita
11th September 2010, 07:12
David appears to be stating the obvious.. this information is already out there..
I just watched the video's in interview with Kerry, got as far as video 2...I had been waiting for him to talk about ..The Law of One" he finally got to it and I think his time lines might be out but not sure o that...
back in the late 80's I was emailing with David, we were talking about Seth and Ra.. it was a very heated exchange as he insisted that only the Ra material was good and correct because of the way the channel was and went into trance...and the purity of Ra because of that state of trance.. he didn't believe in channeling of any other kind... so now he channels himself and Ra no doubt..
Now this was way before him and Casey or any other public David.. so.. if he was so convinced that the way the "Law of One" was channeled was so pure how come he doesn't do the same so his material is pure.. which I don't think it is, he is just a good researcher..
In those first 2 video's he went out of his way to convince with stories of how accurate he is/was....didn't by him way back then and don't buy him now.
blessing
Lita
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