If I’m Waking Up, Why Don’t I Feel…Better?

[Black Panther]

"Countless times now, very talented, intelligent, and wonderful people have asked
us if they are doing something wrong because they have been 'waking up' for a while,
but still feel so lost, confused, and frustrated in many areas of their lives. The truth is
that waking up to consciousness-- while still living in this 3D world-- inevitably involves
feelings of sadness, anger, disappointment, and/or being overwhelmed. After all,
if when “your veil lifted” you woke up to a perfect, joyous, peaceful, and welcoming world,
you and other light workers probably wouldn’t need to be on this planet right now to help
initiate change around you! So, take heart. If you have moments or even phases and
stages of feeling downright miserable, you are most likely on the right track and “waking up”
quite effectively and successfully. Your more permanent upswing is not far away,
though it can seem discouragingly temporary or, at times, even untouchable."

Complete article : http://in5d.com/if-im-waking-up-why-dont-i-feel-better.html

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[Fred Steeves]

Reminds me of the saying: "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off".

[The Arthen]

The truth will set you free, first it'll piss you off, first you'll lose your friends, you'll even lose friends whom you consider to be philosophers, first you'll lose your lover, first you'll lose potential career opportunities, first you'll lose....
Crap, so many "firsts".

BUT...least you're almost kinda halfway free.

[greybeard]

Its not complete till it is---- birth pains----
Its a process but you are either awake or asleep.
When fully awake you get it.
The one who suffers has gone.

This Video of Adyashanti awakening may help
There are a lot of good interviews on conscious tv.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUTF8n_WJko


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUTF8n_WJko

[PurpleLama]

Gumption. Pure gumption is the cure. Finding ways to be proactive, to make what changes we can to make the world better, no matter how small, only takes a little gumption. Doing things in alignment with one's new awakening will mostly alleviate the negative feelings, and the feelings themselves can be turned around to feed the gumption to do more and more things, positively changing one's environment. Awakening to more spiritual realities only has the value of what one does with it in the physical. Put your money where your mouth is, and boy, howdy, how the change does accelerate.

[Lifebringer]

Just because the eyes are open, doesn't always mean they still aren't blind to what's going on around them, and when you tell them, they look at you strangely after a few moments of information, because they are unable to comprehend all the mess and why they themselves never noticed it, or nobody else "famous" ever told them. Those who have tried have been killed to keep agenda 21 on the progression phase, but it's now at a full stop, because WE are waking and changing the way our truth is delivered. There must now be absolute truth, and when WE find it, WE pass the links for others to wake up, and give them the choice of the red, purple or blue pill. lol

If you are overwhelmed at times, take five, and breathe in and out, then actually slow the knowledge down to evaluate the best solution. The truth is coming so fast, after so many centuries of lies, that it's a little fast for us beginners in the Universe to digest and process. Everyone at their own pace.

[Tony]

Waking up......to what?

[ghostrider]

When knowledge increases, sorrow increases. Thats why they say ignorance is bliss...

[Hervé]

Well... the answer is very simple... when one "wakes up" to something/whatever, there comes "responsibility" with it.

As pointed out somewhere above, with an increased knowledge and understanding of the "reality" of one's environment comes the "responsibility" of "doing" something to right whatever "wrong" one has become aware of... hence many fall back to "confusion" so that nothing is done.

[christian]

When I was in a situation where I found I had realized much of what is being played and I got myself to a remote place in Mongolia to live there, I wasn't happy for good, too, which surprised me.

I came to realize that being creative and becoming involved, no matter how big or small my contribution would be, makes all the difference. So I got back from that "comperatively safe" place into the midst of "modern civilization" and although the distorted way of living here can be nagging, I appreciate all the opportunities I have here to get in contact with people, to communicate, to act, and to grow together.

[Vitalux]

I seldom, if ever, have met anyone that has been fully awaken.
However, I do encounter those that are more aware and less ignorant relative to the next human.

Perhaps we don't become enlightened, just less ignorant.:tea:

Those that are in Love with Truth, often find themselves alone.
For truth can not be found in a crowd. :fans:

[ghostrider]

yes , now you must take action and make it better , because you know a better life for all is possible. Once you find the problem , you can fix it. Some people don't want to get their hands dirty, they want someone else to do it , while they bicker about your method instead of helping to fix the problem... With great power, comes great responsibility ...I love that line in spiderman. remember young jedi's where the mind goes , the body follows. if you dont feel better, look at what your thinking about, reading about, listening to , the company you keep, the object you brought into your dwelling , yes mundane objects can carry negative energy, mixed with other sounds/vibration it can be active all of a sudden...you bring it into your home without even knowing. why do you think some cultures leave their shoes at the door ? In case they have walked through an area where someone was just killed or beaten, they don't bring it inside their garden of aden...

[BrianEn]

The lost feeling. When your world gets turned upside down it's kinda hard to feel good about it.

[MargueriteBee]

Because it's damn depressing and emotionally tramatic.


"Countless times now, very talented, intelligent, and wonderful people have asked
us if they are doing something wrong because they have been 'waking up' for a while,
but still feel so lost, confused, and frustrated in many areas of their lives. The truth is
that waking up to consciousness-- while still living in this 3D world-- inevitably involves
feelings of sadness, anger, disappointment, and/or being overwhelmed. After all,
if when “your veil lifted” you woke up to a perfect, joyous, peaceful, and welcoming world,
you and other light workers probably wouldn’t need to be on this planet right now to help
initiate change around you! So, take heart. If you have moments or even phases and
stages of feeling downright miserable, you are most likely on the right track and “waking up”
quite effectively and successfully. Your more permanent upswing is not far away,
though it can seem discouragingly temporary or, at times, even untouchable."

Complete article : http://in5d.com/if-im-waking-up-why-dont-i-feel-better.html

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[The23rdman]

What do you mean by "Waking up"?

[donk]

There's this movie--I think it's been mentioned on this forum before--called The Matrix, which illustrates that feeling pretty well.

Sorry to be a dick, just joking in good fun. I totally feel you. It's like that, cuz the only time waking up would be 100% pleasant and positive is if everybody did at the same time. Otherwise it's a lonely feeling..

[greybeard]

Waking up and enlightenment can be two different thing depending on ones understanding of the terms.
Enlightenment is true oneness where there is compassion for those who suffer through ignorance of the their true enlightened nature.
It is not possible for an enlightened being to suffer--- there is an awareness of pains in their body others misery etc.
All is felt strongly, intimately but there is a distance from this suffering.
There is no individual self left to suffer or experience misery.
The mind cant get that---it has to be a permanent change of the state of consciousness.
The persona instead of being centre stage is off to the sideline.
There is no individual self left to claim enlightenment.
One without a second remains.
That's the best I can put it after years of reading accounts of enlightenment.

So if life is difficult welcome it--- that is forcing you out of your current state in to your true state-- called enlightenment.
No self no problem.
Only the ego can shout "This should not be!!!"
Chris

[sirdipswitch]

You feel bad because you are awakening, you are not "awake". When you are "awake", you will be happy.
I know this, because I am awake. I am awake because I know who I am. When you know who you am, you will be happy too.
i am an immortal spiritual being of the highest order, and nothing, can harm me. you are immortal spiritual beings of the highest order, and nothing can harm you, also... YOU... just don't know it yet. This body, is not who we are. This body, is just an experience that we came here to have. nothing more. There is a way to remember who you are, that is so simple, that most just dissmiss it. i didn't. i did it. so can you.

[RUSirius]

. There is a way to remember who you are, that is so simple, that most just dissmiss it. i didn't. i did it. so can you.

Any pointers?

[buckminster fuller]

being concerned and being detached are two sides of the very same coin....

[greybeard]

. There is a way to remember who you are, that is so simple, that most just dissmiss it. i didn't. i did it. so can you.

Any pointers?

A clue left by sirdipswich here

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=551464&viewfull=1#post551464

There are lots of clues on that thread--- just takes time to wander there and find what works for you.
Chris

[gooty64]

because you woke up just in time to see the world end:gaah:

[161803398]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?N2Xh5eN2fXY

[Michelle Marie]

Tell it like it is!!!

I just drove through Utah, not through any Hurricane, though. That happened (energetically) when I arrived!

I'm free and ready to be responsible...

Everything is crazy. I'm gone. I'm lost. I'm broke. But everything seems perfect in some way.

I sure appreciate the support from this forum.

Michelle Marie

[Grumpy Cat]

Well I definitely lost my lover as a result of waking up, and that pisses me off no end, but what the smeg can I do about it? I hope she'll wake up eventually, and maybe the 21st will be that day. We'll see.

I wouldn't have it any other way though.

[nizkri]

I was depressed for 1.5 years ,, thinkin what is the matter with it all , **** the world , its a cold dark an unforgiven place, i called it the zeitgeist period of my life , the very basic stuff that i learned from watching the zeitgeist ,, its a good starter but not very spiritual ,, then i met a guy, and that was not a coincidence cause i dont believe in coincidences (we all walk our path in life) . and he taught me alot about religion , occultism , symbolism , spiritualism ,,and the more i read and understanded the more i grew spiritual , and learned to be in balance with my self , and control fear ,, first then i saw good and evil was about duality , and it was all an illusion ,, now i dont fear nothing , and is much happier , than the first 1.5 years i studied ''conspiracies'' ,
you must always remember , there is an lie on every level of the truth, there is also alot of false prophets and fear mongering out there .
sorry for my bad english..

peace out brothers and sisters.
Nis

[Youniverse]

Reminds me of the saying: "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off".

That's hilarious Fred! Ha ha!

[Youniverse]

Well... the answer is very simple... when one "wakes up" to something/whatever, there comes "responsibility" with it.

As pointed out somewhere above, with an increased knowledge and understanding of the "reality" of one's environment comes the "responsibility" of "doing" something to right whatever "wrong" one has become aware of... hence many fall back to "confusion" so that nothing is done.

You don't necessarily have to do anything. You are doing much by simply BEING the awakened individual that you are. Yes action is sometimes necessary in achieving some sort of goal, and there is a great deal of good we can do. But being at peace with yourself constantly sends messages out to the world that this is who they are as well. Do what serves you in your awakening and helping other will almost seem to happen all by itself!

[Hervé]

[...]

... You are doing much by simply BEING the awakened individual that you are.

[...]

...

I agree!

[Youniverse]

Well I definitely lost my lover as a result of waking up, and that pisses me off no end, but what the smeg can I do about it? I hope she'll wake up eventually, and maybe the 21st will be that day. We'll see.

I wouldn't have it any other way though.


I haven't lost my wife yet but she probably thinks I'm a certified quack of some sort. It does make many relationships extra-ordinarily difficult to maintain. It seems at times like we are barely hanging on to our marriage. I love her but I can only be who I am.

[Wind]

Suffering is our greatest teacher. We eventually will become more compassionate and will start to see beauty in everything and everyone. Separation is just an illusion... All of us are in this together. We come from the same source, a source of love.

Many of us here are brothers and sisters of sorrow. We have come aid Mother Earth in this transition process. We feel her pain and understand what she is going through and we want to help.

Accept the feelings, but do not let them overwhelm you. Just let them flow throgh you. You are an eternal consciousness having an human experience here right now. All you can do is to accept it.

Deq_1lg9Dlo

[sirdipswitch]

. There is a way to remember who you are, that is so simple, that most just dissmiss it. i didn't. i did it. so can you.

Any pointers?


Two books, written by: William Buhlman; "Adventures Beyond The Body" and "The Secret Of The Soul". Everything one needs to go out of body, is contained in these two books. Buhlman has come up with the simplest method for attaining OBE, than anyone, anywhere. I did it using his methods, and if I can do it. ANYONE CAN DO IT. ALSO. That is if your perserverance, is up to the task. Plus!!! You won't need to align your chokras to get it done. cc.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51152-The-Secret-Of-The-Soul

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47841-Adventures-Beyond-the-Body&p=527771&viewfull=1#post527771


While there is a ton of good material in these two threads, my emphasis is still on Bulmans work. His methodology is simple, and it works. :wizard:

[PHARAOH]

"Countless times now, very talented, intelligent, and wonderful people have asked
us if they are doing something wrong because they have been 'waking up' for a while,
but still feel so lost, confused, and frustrated in many areas of their lives. The truth is
that waking up to consciousness-- while still living in this 3D world-- inevitably involves
feelings of sadness, anger, disappointment, and/or being overwhelmed. After all,
if when “your veil lifted” you woke up to a perfect, joyous, peaceful, and welcoming world,
you and other light workers probably wouldn’t need to be on this planet right now to help
initiate change around you! So, take heart. If you have moments or even phases and
stages of feeling downright miserable, you are most likely on the right track and “waking up”
quite effectively and successfully. Your more permanent upswing is not far away,
though it can seem discouragingly temporary or, at times, even untouchable."

Complete article : http://in5d.com/if-im-waking-up-why-dont-i-feel-better.html

19483

Truth hurts.... SOOO GOOD!!!

That's why.

:loco: :loco: :loco:

[JohnEAngel]

this topic has actually allowed me to put this into a proper perspective. who are the ones that are awake? i make comparisons by seeing who i am and then by seeing those who still adhere to their programmed thought grids. honestly they seem more happier or content and it brings to mind the phrase 'ignorance is bliss'. i see through the deception and they do not and still i feel like crap for it. being awake carries consequences for me as i am intolerant of the illusion. but now i realize that i am meant to have this experience and my success or failure depends on my ability to transcend my 'feeling bad' and to keep moving forward. keep moving forward and planting seeds of thought where they may grow.

[soleil]

with great nowledge comes great headaches.... :wizard: lol

[sirdipswitch]

with great nowledge comes great headaches.... :wizard: lol

yep!!! :wizard:



"all knowledge that the world has ever received comes from the mind; the infinite library of the universe is in our own mind."- swami vivekananda



yep... :wizard:

[soleil]

with great nowledge comes great headaches.... :wizard: lol

yep!!! :wizard:



"all knowledge that the world has ever received comes from the mind; the infinite library of the universe is in our own mind."- swami vivekananda



yep... :wizard:

ascension symptoms :) :panda:

[Black Panther]

What do you mean by "Waking up"?

Waking up in the sence that there is more behind the veil of the Matrix.
That we are not our body and thoughts, but we are having a temporary
human experience on Earth. Everything you don't learn at school.

As greybeard explained in his post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52622-If-I--m-Waking-Up-Why-Don--t-I-Feel--Better&p=591723&viewfull=1#post591723

Waking up is a beginning, but enlightenment will come later. So jealous about Eckhart Tolle.
He did both in only one night :sad:




. There is a way to remember who you are, that is so simple, that most just dissmiss it. i didn't. i did it. so can you.

Any pointers?


Two books, written by: William Buhlman; "Adventures Beyond The Body" and "The Secret Of The Soul". Everything one needs to go out of body, is contained in these two books. Buhlman has come up with the simplest method for attaining OBE, than anyone, anywhere. I did it using his methods, and if I can do it. ANYONE CAN DO IT. ALSO. That is if your perserverance, is up to the task. Plus!!! You won't need to align your chokras to get it done. cc.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51152-The-Secret-Of-The-Soul

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47841-Adventures-Beyond-the-Body&p=527771&viewfull=1#post527771


While there is a ton of good material in these two threads, my emphasis is still on Bulmans work. His methodology is simple, and it works. :wizard:

Reading the book of William Buhlman "Adventures Beyond The Body" right now.
A spiritual guide told me to keep on reading according to a medium, but I'm just
to busy posting on Avalon and watching videos and stuff.

[in5d]

thanks for sharing, brotha!

[4evrneo]

Suffering is our greatest teacher. We eventually will become more compassionate and will start to see beauty in everything and everyone. Separation is just an illusion... All of us are in this together. We come from the same source, a source of love.

Many of us here are brothers and sisters of sorrow. We have come aid Mother Earth in this transition process. We feel her pain and understand what she is going through and we want to help.

Accept the feelings, but do not let them overwhelm you. Just let them flow throgh you. You are an eternal consciousness having an human experience here right now. All you can do is to accept it.



Well said Starseed,
I couldnt agree more.......

[Youniverse]

. There is a way to remember who you are, that is so simple, that most just dissmiss it. i didn't. i did it. so can you.

Any pointers?

I have wanted to read those books for a while now but haven't gotten to them yet. They are definately on my radar! Just a question though. Some have said that OBE's are "dangerous" in some way. Implying that you may not get what you bargained for. Any truth to this in your view? Or is it just fear announced, which needs to be overcome anyways? Just wondering.

Two books, written by: William Buhlman; "Adventures Beyond The Body" and "The Secret Of The Soul". Everything one needs to go out of body, is contained in these two books. Buhlman has come up with the simplest method for attaining OBE, than anyone, anywhere. I did it using his methods, and if I can do it. ANYONE CAN DO IT. ALSO. That is if your perserverance, is up to the task. Plus!!! You won't need to align your chokras to get it done. cc.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51152-The-Secret-Of-The-Soul

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47841-Adventures-Beyond-the-Body&p=527771&viewfull=1#post527771


While there is a ton of good material in these two threads, my emphasis is still on Bulmans work. His methodology is simple, and it works. :wizard:I have wanted to read those books for a while now but haven't gotten to them yet. They are definately on my radar! Just a question though. Some have said that OBE's are "dangerous" in some way. Implying that you may not get what you bargained for. Any truth to this in your view? Or is it just fear announced, which needs to be overcome anyways? Just wondering.

[soleil]

youniverse, you should read the 'adventures out of body' and 'secrets of the soul' threads...sirdip(george)switch tells it like it is.

:) :cool:

[Youniverse]

youniverse, you should read the 'adventures out of body' and 'secrets of the soul' threads...sirdip(george)switch tells it like it is.

:) :cool:

Ok thanks for the tip!

[Black Panther]

Suffering is our greatest teacher. We eventually will become more compassionate and will start to see beauty in everything and everyone. Separation is just an illusion... All of us are in this together. We come from the same source, a source of love.

Many of us here are brothers and sisters of sorrow. We have come aid Mother Earth in this transition process. We feel her pain and understand what she is going through and we want to help.

Accept the feelings, but do not let them overwhelm you. Just let them flow throgh you. You are an eternal consciousness having an human experience here right now. All you can do is to accept it.

Deq_1lg9Dlo

It's another great video of Eckhart. I think it's true we suffer more if we wake
up to the terrible truth of the real world we live in and by thinking a lot about
all those terrible things we won't feel better. And most of the time there aren't
others close to you to understand you so you alienate yourself more from others
and end up thinking and thinking even more. It happened with me when I read his
books for the first time and again by really waking up. It's difficult to see others
keep running in their hamster wheels while you have important things to share
for their own benefit and the benefit of humankind.

But if we suffer because of that it's still our thoughts making us suffer. It is as it is
and by accepting everything as it is we become one with everything. By fighting
and resisting we will suffer again and again untill we have suffered enough and we
will found out we don't have to suffer.

I think we have suffered enough as humankind, so let's create another world together!

[Wookie]

I always find it useful to me to simplify as much as possible to the point of abstraction if necessary. One is asleep in bed dreaming away cut off from reality, it seems all is well. One wakes up to a ragging house fire engulfing Ones bed. So quite often we are awoken to an unpleasant surprize, still being better off to have awoken to it.

Peaceful Journeys Wookie