View Full Version : Killer robots to replace soldiers by 2035 .....The Termanator is here ! I'l be back !
Cidersomerset
2nd December 2012, 14:16
Some would say super soldiers are here as the likes of Duncan O finien could confirm.
At least they are human, and there may already be synthetic soldiers...But it sounds
like 'Skynet' is on the way.......( Its probably already here)..
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Published on 27 Nov 2012 by RTAmerica
Unmanned aircraft have become part of a growing trend in fighting wars abroad and with new regulations passed by the Federal Aviation Administration drones hovering around could become an everyday sighting within the US too. Many privacy advocates are fighting to stop drones flying in the US, but could killer robots be the next step in fighting wars? Bonnie Docherty, senior researcher in the arms division with Human Rights Watch, joins us with more on how this could become a reality.
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Cidersomerset
2nd December 2012, 15:08
This is spooky..LOL.......2035 ??
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I, Robot 2004
In the year 2035, where robots are common and abide by the three laws of robotics, a techno-phobic cop
investigates an apparent suicide. Suspecting that a robot may be responsible for the death, his investigation
leads him to believe that humanity may be in danger.
Cidersomerset
2nd December 2012, 15:19
In the recent remake of Total Recall Synthetic Robots play a big part !
Synthetic Police Are Coming: DARPA Engineering Autonomous Robots
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Because of the risks involved in rescue aid workers and human response teams, DARPA awarded Boston Dynamics, Inc. a $10.9 million contract to manufacture humanoid robots that are bi-pedal, built like humans and have a sensor head with on-board computing capabilities.
Completion of the project is expected for August of 2014.
These robots are being created to assist in excavation and rescue missions, according to DARPA . They could also be employed to evacuation operations during either man-made or natural disasters.
Kent Massey, director of advanced programs for HDT Robotics , who attended the DARPA meeting in which the purpose of the allocation of humanoid robotic technology was explained, said:
“The goal of this Grand Challenge is to create a humanoid robot that can operate in an environment built for people and use tools made for people. The specific challenge is built around an industrial disaster response.”
Another of DARPA’s interests into robotics is the Avatar for the allocation of bi-pedal robots and essential super-soldiers and has devoted $7 million of its $2.8 billion 2012 budget to developing “interfaces and algorithms to enable a soldier to effectively partner with a semi-autonomous bi-pedal machine and allow it to act as the soldier’s surrogate.”
These human-controlled robots will be strong enough to “clear a room” and “facilitate sentry control and combat causality recovery.” Yet these “terminators” would easily be the most effective weapon against civil unrest or radical revolutionaries that did not subscribe to the globalist agenda.
Stanford University’s Aerospace Robotics Laboratory (ARL) wants to introduce autonomous robots into law enforcement situations; such as response in lieu of police SWAT teams.
In high-risk tactical situations, autonomous robots could replace trained personnel without threat of injury or loss of life. Under the direction of a tactical commander, those robots could be released to provide safe and secure assurance of mission completion.
Possible voice recognition software could be used to allow the commander to direct the robot, convey commands, and gather information about the environment before deploying human law enforcement.
Autonomous robots, equipped with Taser guns have already been sold to police departments across the nation. iRobot of Massachusetts manufactures PackBot who carries lethal weapons.
While these robots were first introduced as assistance in military missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, they have found their way into local police departments.
The Naval Research Laboratory interests SAFFiR, the Shipboard Autonomous Firefighting Robot. SAFFiR is an autonomous bipedal humanoid robot, based on the CHARLI-L1 robot created at Virginia Tech.
This robot can interact with humans with a comprehensive response system that utilizes language – including slang to make it more familiar. A robot that can hold a conversation and fight fires is quite impressive.
In 2008, the Pentagon solicited for the advancement of Multi-Robot Pursuit System technology which is the development of a team of robots to search for and detect human presence in an indoor environment.
These robots, although only semi-autonomous, have been theorized from the gaming community arising out of first-person-shooting games. A team of robots could be under the direction of one human operator. The purpose of this robotic technology would be to seek out and detect non-cooperative human subjects.
The beginning stages of the global Elite’s visions for “robots to hunt down humans like a pack of dogs” are becoming a reality . These robots will be armed and autonomous.
Their cranium sensors will be able to “detect human breath and the radio waves associated with a human heart beat.”
http://share.banoosh.com/2012/08/18/synthetic-police-are-coming-darpa-engineering-autonomous-robots/
Tesseract
2nd December 2012, 18:02
I would hope that if (big if) we are intelligent enough to build such robots we would be able to solve our problems without the need for more warfare.
Before people start to get uneasy about their nation being invaded by genocidal American robots I would like to make a technical point. Computers, sensors, software, actuators – all of these components can be as sophisticated as you like, but they all depend on energy to operate. I don’t think that I have ever read a MSM article on robotics that discusses the practical limitations of robots due to the constraints of on-board energy storage. It’s not what the public is interested in...
The truth is that the energy storage limitation is the elephant in the room regarding autonomous human-like robots, and the chance of there being a breakthrough that solves this problem before 2035 is miniscule. After 20 years of lithium battery development my laptop still only lasts 2 hours on a single charge. Besides, if such a breakthrough was made, forget about robots, the whole world would change because of it.
These issues may be solved one day, but for the next 30 years at least it’s gun-toting humans that will remain the problem.
grannyfranny100
2nd December 2012, 20:56
Another example of the government claiming that technology is for the betterment of humankind. NOT as they will use them.
Robert J. Niewiadomski
2nd December 2012, 22:01
I would hope that if (big if) we are intelligent enough to build such robots we would be able to solve our problems without the need for more warfare.
Before people start to get uneasy about their nation being invaded by genocidal American robots I would like to make a technical point. Computers, sensors, software, actuators – all of these components can be as sophisticated as you like, but they all depend on energy to operate. I don’t think that I have ever read a MSM article on robotics that discusses the practical limitations of robots due to the constraints of on-board energy storage. It’s not what the public is interested in...
The truth is that the energy storage limitation is the elephant in the room regarding autonomous human-like robots, and the chance of there being a breakthrough that solves this problem before 2035 is miniscule. After 20 years of lithium battery development my laptop still only lasts 2 hours on a single charge. Besides, if such a breakthrough was made, forget about robots, the whole world would change because of it.
These issues may be solved one day, but for the next 30 years at least it’s gun-toting humans that will remain the problem.
Thank you for pointing that obvious fact :) Without energy these robots are useles junk. Some may argue that they can be equiped with Free Energy power suply. You know, the one that taps into the unlimited energy sustaining time-space. But since that energy is Divine in nature it would not work for Life destroying purpose. The moment first bullet/laser/whatever round of ammo is fired it would immediately stop working :)
Fellow Aspirant
3rd December 2012, 01:57
Besides, if such a breakthrough was made, forget about robots, the whole world would change because of it.
This assumes that any breakthrough made in energy generation would be known to the general public. There is ample evidence that a "breakaway civilization", one with technology thousands of years in advance of what us "sheeple" are aware of, already exists.
I refer you to Richard Dolan's work, outlined here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ZA1STmoR8
Using some of the soon-to-be-available "off the shelf" robots, this breakaway civilization could install 'upgrades' into these machines' power sources and use them for their own nefarious purposes. And no, I don't believe that 'zero point energy' comes with any moral imperative. It will work for evil just as well as for good.
Robert J. Niewiadomski
3rd December 2012, 08:50
Besides, if such a breakthrough was made, forget about robots, the whole world would change because of it.
This assumes that any breakthrough made in energy generation would be known to the general public. There is ample evidence that a "breakaway civilization", one with technology thousands of years in advance of what us "sheeple" are aware of, already exists.
I refer you to Richard Dolan's work, outlined here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ZA1STmoR8
Using some of the soon-to-be-available "off the shelf" robots, this breakaway civilization could install 'upgrades' into these machines' power sources and use them for their own nefarious purposes. And no, I don't believe that 'zero point energy' comes with any moral imperative. It will work for evil just as well as for good.
If this breakaway civilization is malevolent and they use zpe already, why we sheeple are still here alive? We polute/destroy the environment that civilization shares with us. They could wipe us like cocroaches in a blink of an eye. Why don't they use zpe upgrades to kill us all? If they have unlimited access to zpe why have they not depopulated Earth yet? Maybe because those devices stop working for them?
Fellow Aspirant
3rd December 2012, 17:01
The whole issue of a breakaway civilization is too huge to deal with in a post here. I would encourage you to investigate using the various video and transcripted interviews that are available via the archives of Project Avalon and our sister site, Project Camelot. The term "Breakaway Civilization" is one coined by Richard Dolan, so his lectures, interviews, presentations and books are the best focus for your studies. That said, the recent essay by Kerry Cassidy titled "Follow the Money", about the secret space program and featured on her Project Camelot site gives a terrific overall history of the issues that "aware" people face today.
The short answer to your question is: The controllers will not eliminate the sheeple as long as they derive benefits from us. Like a farmer or a slave owner will not kill off his livestock or labourers, the PTB will not kill us off while we are useful to them.
Good hunting!
Brian
Robert J. Niewiadomski
3rd December 2012, 22:44
The whole issue of a breakaway civilization is too huge to deal with in a post here. I would encourage you to investigate using the various video and transcripted interviews that are available via the archives of Project Avalon and our sister site, Project Camelot. The term "Breakaway Civilization" is one coined by Richard Dolan, so his lectures, interviews, presentations and books are the best focus for your studies. That said, the recent essay by Kerry Cassidy titled "Follow the Money", about the secret space program and featured on her Project Camelot site gives a terrific overall history of the issues that "aware" people face today.
The short answer to your question is: The controllers will not eliminate the sheeple as long as they derive benefits from us. Like a farmer or a slave owner will not kill off his livestock or labourers, the PTB will not kill us off while we are useful to them.
Good hunting!
Brian
Brian,
In what we are useful for them if they are thousand years ahead technologicaly from us the sheeple? They do not need to enslave us to work for them. It is not technologicay superior imho...
We destroy this planet (their planet too) with our ways of living. We are of no use to them. And yet despite their technology and malevolence we are here. 7 bilions apparently useless eaters bathing in sunshine and inhaling moderately fresh air. Compare it with subterrean conditions of the Breakeways. They should be mad at us.They should send their killer drones/T1000s/Terminators/whataver deadly AI, wipe us clean from the surface and take our place. Their tech would farm/mine/build/care for them obediently. All powered by morally neutral(?) ZPE? No such thing happened. No invasion. No mass culling of the sheeple. Why?
1) They are not technologicaly more advanced because for some reason they need slaves (us)
or
2) They are not malevolent because despite their tech we are still alive. This argument is based on my assumption that technological advancement exclude need for slaves.
or
3) They are all of above but their ZPE power supply stops working whenever they try to use it against Life. ZPE is the essence of Life.
or
4) i need to learn some more so please educate me :) Create new thread or refresh old one. Ex. this one: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32467-Free-Energy---No-way-in-hell-
Star Tsar
3rd December 2012, 23:21
Worry not folks the boffins over @ Cambridge Uni are on the case check out this story from the 28/11/12.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238152/Cambridge-University-open-Terminator-centre-study-threat-humans-artificial-intelligence.html
TargeT
3rd December 2012, 23:34
Thank you for pointing that obvious fact :) Without energy these robots are useles junk. Some may argue that they can be equiped with Free Energy power suply. You know, the one that taps into the unlimited energy sustaining time-space. But since that energy is Divine in nature it would not work for Life destroying purpose. The moment first bullet/laser/whatever round of ammo is fired it would immediately stop working :)
I think you've swung your pendulum too far to "love and light" swing it back to "hate and dark" a bit, find that middle point or you will be sorely disappointed.
Life destroying purpose is only bad to you because of your perspective, from my perspective it is a necessary and mandatory part of the cycle. it is not bad, it is a part of all that is perfect, if you only have the eyes to see it.
Duality is bad, duality will cause you discontent, acceptance will not; enjoy this experience for all it has to offer, not just a polar extreme.
The point is well made, energy is the limiting factor for SO MUCH these days, both in production and in storage; but it seems like we are close to fixing both.
The next few years will be exciting.
We destroy this planet (their planet too) with our ways of living.
All of humanity occupies 1% of the earth... this planet doesn't even notice us (very arrogant to think otherwise).
we destroy NOTHING; it is IMPOSSIBLE to destroy, we only change things, and change is NOT bad, change is the only constant.
it must be a dark and dismal place your perception has you living in.
Cidersomerset
4th December 2012, 00:37
An article from July saying the Aussie airforce may have them ...
They are actually talking about Drones, but do speculate a little
about robots !
http://www.nma.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0019/225262/20092254-020_w480.jpg
What will online security look like in year 2025?
Jul 12, 2012 4:06pm
CYBER operations units will soon sit alongside the army, navy and air force as a major wing of Australia's defence forces, an online security expert says.
And remote controlled robots - similar to drones being used by the US in the air now - will be an increasing part of ground combat, says Queensland University of Technology’s Bill Caelli.
In the US, authorities have already agreed to sponsor courses for cyber operation experts trained in limiting an enemy’s ability to attack and Prof Caelli says this will follow here.
"What we're seeing happen is a global recognition that cyber operations are real," Prof Caelli, the founder of the university’s security research centre, told news.com.au.
"By 2025 cyber operations units will become a major part of any defence activity, alongside the military, air force and navy."
Prof Caelli said it was "inevitable" computer systems and information infrastructure would become the focus of future attacks as major world economies became more dependent on them.
"There will be a need to counter-attack the information infrastructure of those who are attacking us," he said.
In the field, robots will be used tactically to destroy or seize the enemy’s robotic weaponry.
"The simple idea is to limit damage to humans," Prof Caelli said, "But just like in the robot film I, Robot, just how safe and predictable is all this?
"The real risk is when the combatants take over control of each other's robotic systems."
At home, Prof Caelli said made no sense in an age where cyber warfare was becoming more sophisticated, the Federal Government had been so slow to regulate IT systems.
As the Government prepares harsher laws to help track user activity on the web, Prof Caelli told news.com.au they were picking on the wrong targets. Read more
He says this approach is one of the least effective ways to ensure a secure future, and that viruses such as the DNS malware which had the potential to take four million people offline on Monday were just the tip of the iceberg.
"Imagine the internet's domain name services were suddenly attacked and turned off," he said.
"All government services would be turned off. At the same time major enterprises and critical infrastructure could be attacked."
Prof Caelli said it was essential to regulate the IT industry – in a similar way to the automobile and pharmaceutical industries - to ensure users are being provided with safe, secure products and services.
He said smartphones and tablets were particularly at risk, not just from viruses but from the prying eyes of governments and "forces that are hostile to our interests”.
http://www.optuszoo.com.au/news/technology/daily-telegraph/what-will-online-security-look-like-in-year-2025/722420
Cidersomerset
4th December 2012, 00:47
Worry not folks the boffins over @ Cambridge Uni are on the case check out this story from the 28/11/12.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...elligence.html
Good find KWB....
The quote below sounds like they are already here.Which has been speculated
about .
Actually does anyone know off hand if the synthetic army talked about.
Are biological clones ? Part biological/robotic ? or Robotic ? I know
its speculation ,but I heard a lot about it about a year ago, and alls
gone quite on that front ?
Let's make sure he WON'T be back! Cambridge to open 'Terminator centre' to study threat to humans from artificial intelligence
Centre will examine the possibility that there might be a ‘Pandora’s box' moment with technology
The founders say technologies already have the 'potential to threaten our own existence'
By Amanda Williams
PUBLISHED:13:00, 25 November 2012| UPDATED:08:03, 26 November 2012
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A centre for 'terminator studies', where leading academics will study the threat that robots pose to humanity, is set to open at Cambridge University.
Its purpose will be to study the four greatest threats to the human species - artificial intelligence, climate change, nuclear war and rogue biotechnology.
The Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) will be co-launched by Lord Rees, the astronomer royal and one of the world's top cosmologists.
Rees's 2003 book Our Final Century had warned that the destructiveness of humanity meant that the species could wipe itself out by 2100.
The idea that machines might one day take over humanity has featured in many science fiction books and films, including the Terminator, in which
Arnold Schwarzenegger stars as a homicidal robot.In 1965, Irving John ‘Jack’ Good and wrote a paper for New Scientist called Speculations concerning
the first ultra-intelligent machine. Good, a Cambridge-trained mathematician, Bletchley Park cryptographer, pioneering computer scientist and friend
of Alan Turing, wrote that in the near future an ultra-intelligent machine would be built.This machine, he continued, would be the 'last invention' that
mankind will ever make, leading to an 'intelligence explosion.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238152/Cambridge-University-open-Terminator-centre-study-threat-humans-artificial-intelligence.html#ixzz2E2VteV22
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eni-al
4th December 2012, 01:39
It only makes sense, robots have less limitations than a human. The main one being they can carry more, so they could be loaded with everything, as well as being able to potentially withstand a tank round or two or more eventually. Drones are already becoming fully autonomous. There was a jet liner or something being made fully autonomous, so it could take off, navigate and land anywhere without any human intervention.
I doubt we'll see quite see humanoid soldiers, more quadrupeds for ground use.
ghostrider
4th December 2012, 02:14
Once again Ptaah is right, he stated a machine robot army would be invented and turn on it's masters and we will be in for the fight of our lives, AI will evolve.
Nat_Lee
4th December 2012, 02:56
I hope they would not look like real humans because it would be to confusing !
Have you seen those:
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Cidersomerset
4th December 2012, 12:42
I hope they would not look like real humans because it would be to confusing !
Have you seen those:
I forgot about them , I did a thread on the subject ......
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36553-QI....Intelligence.....
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Cidersomerset
4th December 2012, 15:42
BBC Horizon - Where's My Robot? (2008)
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Uploaded by artizmm on 15 Oct 2011
More information & videos here:- http://sociorobotics.wordpress.com/
Important and educational film from BBC's Horizon... who I hope will
allow this recording to stay up on Youtube for all to see!
Danny Wallace is an interesting and funny bloke and worth reading
his Wiki page - he's 'on form' in this amusing and sharp observation
of contemporary, socially equipped robots.
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This is where mainstream research was four years ago. whether there are
milititary programes or Andriod tech aquired from ET's or else where we
can only speculate !! But at the end of the vid one of the scientist equates
robotics to where computors were in the 70's. So by that time frame,around
2035 could be where AI robots/Androids will be as common as computors
are today...Interresting !
kaon
4th December 2012, 19:17
I would hope that if (big if) we are intelligent enough to build such robots we would be able to solve our problems without the need for more warfare.
Before people start to get uneasy about their nation being invaded by genocidal American robots I would like to make a technical point. Computers, sensors, software, actuators – all of these components can be as sophisticated as you like, but they all depend on energy to operate. I don’t think that I have ever read a MSM article on robotics that discusses the practical limitations of robots due to the constraints of on-board energy storage. It’s not what the public is interested in...
The truth is that the energy storage limitation is the elephant in the room regarding autonomous human-like robots, and the chance of there being a breakthrough that solves this problem before 2035 is miniscule. After 20 years of lithium battery development my laptop still only lasts 2 hours on a single charge. Besides, if such a breakthrough was made, forget about robots, the whole world would change because of it.
These issues may be solved one day, but for the next 30 years at least it’s gun-toting humans that will remain the problem.
Very well said. The possibility would remain that one or more of our governments has battery or other energy technology that would run the robots for extended periods of time. Who knows.
2035 is not that far off. I wouldn't be surprised either way if this comes to fruition.
For now in the words of Maxwell Smart...."would you believe"
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