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Sloppyjoe
3rd December 2012, 01:30
I spent a few hours listening to her long presentation and I'm having a hard time grasping something in particular. She says that the movement into the 5D started back around 2003, where our frequencies and vibrations began to SLOWLY increase, I get that part, but when an audience member asked "where will the people go who get left behind in 3D?" Dolores said that the ones who you used to be close to just end up fading away and ones that will be in your new 5D life will start popping up out of nowhere..but when I think of a shift into another dimension it seems like those people would just cease to exist period since we can't even interact with anyone else besides those who match our own vibration. The biggest thing I don't understand is that Dolores says we are already here(in 5D I assume) but we just don't see it yet...I don't understand this either, I'd assume that if we made a huge shift into another dimension that we would all be well aware of it physically and mentally, but how can we be there if we still live in this world full of evil?

Tane Mahuta
3rd December 2012, 07:18
Hi Sloppy, I've watched, if not all of her videos, read a lot of her books. I've asked myself the same question.

The reason is...(imo) we as a Human Speacies are not there yet!

I believe (imo) is that we have a long way to go!

TM

Sloppyjoe
3rd December 2012, 07:47
Hi Sloppy, I've watched, if not all of her videos, read a lot of her books. I've asked myself the same question.

The reason is...(imo) we as a Human Speacies are not there yet!

I believe (imo) is that we have a long way to go!

TM

I agree with you, there is so much we don't understand simply because we aren't there yet!! I have a feeling it's still a ways away, but deep down inside I want it to happen soon. I consider myself a volunteer soul and when I had heard Dolores talking about how these souls are confused as to why they are here and how they want to go home but they don't know what home is it really resonated with me because I've been feeling these things since I was a kid.

deridan
3rd December 2012, 07:49
we have a long way to go, but in how the subconscious massive eventually cycles to the conscious, it may be in the wheel already [if we only experience the part of the tyre contacting the ground]

Tane Mahuta
3rd December 2012, 09:05
we have a long way to go, but in how the subconscious massive eventually cycles to the conscious, it may be in the wheel already [if we only experience the part of the tyre contacting the ground]

Yes, & the tyre touching the ground is "our future" (using the analogy)(imo) our future changes on a daily basis due to the

position/precapace we are in/on the timeline. I will always remain positive.

TM

Maunagarjana
3rd December 2012, 09:45
Maybe the information that she's getting is presented to her straightforwardly, but possibly is only intended to be a metaphor not to be taken literally. Everyone's got their little take on what they think might happen based on their preferred sources of information and I think I've heard most of them by now. And while lots of them sound marvelous, I'm still not convinced any of them are literally true. A lot of people are expecting a physical event (one way or another at one point or another), an alteration of the physics of this world somehow, but maybe it's not like that at all. Maybe it's more of a spiritual one.

I'm thinking more along the lines of, after one passes over to the spirit world, they will then either return where they came from or stay with Earth and be reborn into a higher dimension/density or be reincarnated elsewhere to repeat 3d. In this view, maybe what Dolores is talking about is true, but we won't have any real indication of it until we leave this physical incarnation. Though I know she would say, "No, that's not what they tell me." But honestly, I find what she's saying pretty hard to swallow, much less even envision.

Lone Bean
3rd December 2012, 14:51
I've watched a few of her videos and although some of it does resonate with me, for the most part I think she's just making up some of it. She seems to contradict herself. An example - She said that the volunteers who answered the calling to come to earth to raise it's vibration will NOT have any karma attached to them while here on earth. That way they won't get stuck in the karmic cycle and have to return to earth. Then she says these volunteers don't have children because there's always karma with having children and they don't want to have karma attached to them. This makes no sense. If they are given the gift of having no karma attached to them, then having children should present no karmic problem.

I totally related to the "volunteer" idea because I frequently said out loud to myself and to whoever in the spirit world might actually be listening to me, "I WANT TO GO HOME!" I must have said that over 100 times in my twenties and thirties. I still say it every now and then but since growing older I realize I have a mission(s) to accomplish and she helped me to realize what one of them might be. I'm grateful to her for that, but I'm still having trouble with a lot of the other stuff she said. I chose not to have children but adopted instead. There was nothing wrong with me or my husband, but we went the adoption route for kids. I guess then I'll have karma stuck all over me for having kids but I'd rather have them then not have them, assuming I'm one of the volunteers who answered the call.

But, I think I might be a volunteer and that when I die I finally do get to really go HOME, whatever that is karma or no karma. I don't remember but I can feel that it's a very special and wonderful place.

WhiteFeather
3rd December 2012, 18:38
Great Question.......Can changing our Frequency and Vibration place us in that dimension or plane perhaps. This is my understanding of what she implies. Hope this helped somewhat my friend.

Where i am existing at the moment, the evil seems to be minimum If you will....

WhiteFeather
3rd December 2012, 18:56
Hi Sloppy, I've watched, if not all of her videos, read a lot of her books. I've asked myself the same question.

The reason is...(imo) we as a Human Speacies are not there yet!

I believe (imo) is that we have a long way to go!

TM
"Good Point made here Tane "The reason is...(imo) we as a Human Speacies are not there yet"!

Alex Collier Stated That The Andromedans are Fruitetarians. This makes clear sense to me.

IMO...I will explain....When we learn and are ready to change as humans, especially with regards to our diet (eating animal flesh) like primitive man, our frequency could be effected. Delores mentions this subject in the video posted below at the 3:30 mark. Our food intake needs to be lighter, as eating animal flesh keeps us in this lower vibrational frequency. This resonates with me, and is my opinion as well as Grandma Dolores.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUmHxCDAuS8

TOTHE
3rd December 2012, 19:37
Why do all you posters here only look at You-Tube which only contains generalizations and comprehension limited to the visual?

I have read Convoluted Universe IV and the most recent The Three Waves of Volunteers and The New Earth. These books are fascinating for research and connecting the dots you have acquired over the years. To be really informed and non judgmental you must burn the data into your brain by reading by using all five senses. Remember you are still in the physical and to do what you do has to be done phisical in all its low density glory.

Typical gem I found this week that I posted.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50646-Who-are-the-24-Elders-A-revelation&p=592394&viewfull=1#post592394

The shift to the New Earth has to be gradual or people will get hurt, confused or psychotic. It may take 300 years for most of us who are stuck with perceptions based on linear time. Those who crack the river of time and temporal perception with higher vibration the shift will be sooner for them. EVERYONE will get there eventually and maybe with some of our Reptoid friends.

Nanoo Nanoo
3rd December 2012, 20:02
I spent a few hours listening to her long presentation and I'm having a hard time grasping something in particular. She says that the movement into the 5D started back around 2003, where our frequencies and vibrations began to SLOWLY increase, I get that part, but when an audience member asked "where will the people go who get left behind in 3D?" Dolores said that the ones who you used to be close to just end up fading away and ones thpat will be in your new 5D life will start popping up out of nowhere..but when I think of a shift into another dimension it seems like those people would just cease to exist period since we can't even interact with anyone else besides those who match our own vibration. The biggest thing I don't understand is that Dolores says we are already here(in 5D I assume) but we just don't see it yet...I don't understand this either, I'd assume that if we made a huge shift into another dimension that we would all be well aware of it physically and mentally, but how can we be there if we still live in this world full of evil?


She is right, 5 d is here. I have been in there plenty of times. 5 d access very much depnds on your individual vibration to access it. It requires effort. Its not a given. 5 d is a parralell time line of a higher frequency. Same stuff happens there but how you experience it is different. Ive driven my car at night in 5 d. Everything feels different, the air is clean, lights are brighter, not one police car on the road anywhere, there was a definite feel of order in the air, even the steerin wheel of the car felt softer, it had a different texture. Its hard to explain but it felt like it was alive ?

Weird i know.

N

Wind
4th December 2012, 08:38
Only thing I'm curious about is the fact that she says that the others who are left behind to old Earth will say "Poor thing, she died believing all that". So we will perhaps leave our physical vessel when we leave. I think that it indeed will be an event and it will happen soon... How it will happen doesn't really matter. There is no death.

deridan
4th December 2012, 09:11
Nanoo Nanoo, like what you have to say. so we've entered the river, and will fully experience 5d as a specie once the river is crossed, but for those who can access more of it now,by whatever means, ...all the better
lol at feeling a machine is alive, ..my dads car i drive now [before i store it again for the next gen God willing], had a heat-gauge flick up (for a second) when i passed a jealous person,
sometimes i can feel the bliss or hind-brain chakra activate as it would for our high-flying friends with their amazing craft

perhaps we should systematically go through the approach for accessing more of the 5d-mobility

Nanoo Nanoo
6th December 2012, 02:00
Cureently its difficult to stay in 5 d for extended periods of time. I used to be able to stay in there for hours when i was in my 20's but our accumulated energy has shifted to much it tends to drag us back down.

Energy of a group can affect an individual. There are mathematical formulas to calculate this but determining the factors of theoretical mathematics is mind boggling. Too much for my little ant brain. Your personal power, ie. Your gumption with regard to your faith is important in sustaining 5d and higer vibration. I have experienced up to 9 d i believe, . . . Hmm cannot describe it.

Negative or fearful people may never experience it. ones who are under mind control and are fixated on negative news and happenings may never experience it, and rightly so, if they do not have the personal power to rise above fear then we canmot have them in higher vibratory dimentions, it would imbalance everything.

My car and i have a connection. I have always had this with machinery. They too hav a life force. By virtue they exist means they were given birth and indeed breathe oxygen and need fuel and nutrients to survive. They can get cancer andmthey can get sick just like us. I have always been kind to machinery and it talks to me. Not in words but in knowing. Its like a nod and a hmm, you know, like intuition.

5d is an amzing place, in terms of how things look and feel., its really quite extrodinary.

N

bennycog
6th December 2012, 03:04
quickest way to get rid of karma.. " forgive "
delores is in this 2012 movie from 22 mins in..

im still watching it so i cannot give much more info for you guys about the movie..

Jc-55p1Al9k

lookbeyond
6th December 2012, 05:22
I spent a few hours listening to her long presentation and I'm having a hard time grasping something in particular. She says that the movement into the 5D started back around 2003, where our frequencies and vibrations began to SLOWLY increase, I get that part, but when an audience member asked "where will the people go who get left behind in 3D?" Dolores said that the ones who you used to be close to just end up fading away and ones thpat will be in your new 5D life will start popping up out of nowhere..but when I think of a shift into another dimension it seems like those people would just cease to exist period since we can't even interact with anyone else besides those who match our own vibration. The biggest thing I don't understand is that Dolores says we are already here(in 5D I assume) but we just don't see it yet...I don't understand this either, I'd assume that if we made a huge shift into another dimension that we would all be well aware of it physically and mentally, but how can we be there if we still live in this world full of evil?


She is right, 5 d is here. I have been in there plenty of times. 5 d access very much depnds on your individual vibration to access it. It requires effort. Its not a given. 5 d is a parralell time line of a higher frequency. Same stuff happens there but how you experience it is different. Ive driven my car at night in 5 d. Everything feels different, the air is clean, lights are brighter, not one police car on the road anywhere, there was a definite feel of order in the air, even the steerin wheel of the car felt softer, it had a different texture. Its hard to explain but it felt like it was alive ?

Weird i know.

N

Wow, lightbulb moment, ive been to a place where the air was crystal, the colours were more vibrant and and my sight incorporated the minutest detail into the whole- in short it was during a moment of sheer happiness and during usual activities of living yet it was not "here" as i normally know it- lasted around 10 mins.A taste of 5D?

A few years ago in my catholic stage i met a man who told me of a car journey he took to run an errand.He drove in peak hour,was the only car on the road and all the lights were green for 2 hours! Sounds like 5 D to me,

Love lookbeyond

AwakeInADream
6th December 2012, 10:31
I've only very recently discovered Dolores Cannon when I saw her on TV last week,
but I totally resonated with what she had to say, and she made me think more positively
about the future.

Can anyone recommend a good video of hers, fit for a newbie like me?
Not too short or long, maybe an hour and a half in length. Or any free Pdf's to read?
(I've just downloaded the one Whitefeather posted above, Cheers! WF:))

I'm really fascinated by the hypnosis aspect and the workings of the subconscious mind,
I wish I could regress myself...

4evrneo
6th December 2012, 21:56
Hi Sloppy, I've watched, if not all of her videos, read a lot of her books. I've asked myself the same question.

The reason is...(imo) we as a Human Speacies are not there yet!

I believe (imo) is that we have a long way to go!

TM

I agree with you, there is so much we don't understand simply because we aren't there yet!! I have a feeling it's still a ways away, but deep down inside I want it to happen soon. I consider myself a volunteer soul and when I had heard Dolores talking about how these souls are confused as to why they are here and how they want to go home but they don't know what home is it really resonated with me because I've been feeling these things since I was a kid.

My daughter (25) and son (22) both feel this way. My daughter feels this so strongly that she has contimplated suicide on a few occasions. Not something a mother wants to hear but I do understand it. I too feel it, but am the patient one to hold it all together.

Bless,
Annette

4evrneo
6th December 2012, 22:03
5d is an amzing place, in terms of how things look and feel., its really quite extrodinary.

N

I had a similar experience the other day after taking my daughter to work. I was on my way back to work and everything suddenly was very vivid in color and fresher somehow. It was about a 20 min drive and it was so beautiful seeing such vivid colors. I didnt want to go back to work because I knew it was going to end when I got there.
That was my first experience of this kind and I cant wait to feel it again :)

A