MATRIX REVEALED -- Analysis & Solutions

[TrumanCash]

I am starting this "Matrix Revealed" thread as a follow-up to my books that I wrote in the mid-90s, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET and THE EYE OF RA.

The definition of the word "matrix" as it applies to this thread is "A situation within which something else originates, develops, or is contained." [American Heritage Dictionary]

One could say that the matrix exists on four levels: There is the local matrix of planet Earth run by the "Illuminati" residing in human bodies; there is the matrix created and run by ETs vis-a-vis Earth; there is the matrix of the physical universe; and there is the more fundamental matrix that exists beyond time, space, the physical universe, is of an entirely spiritual nature and in its purest sense would not actually fall under the definition of "matrix".

The purpose of the thread is to examine the various levels of the matrix and explore solutions to improve conditions within the matrix.

I am happy to answer questions regarding my books and ongoing research. Anyone can download the books free of charge using the links below.

The "Matrix" movie is an appropriate metaphor for the matrix in which we live. For those who are not ready to take the "red pill", I would not recommend my books.

I often use the word "implant" so here are the basic definitions that apply:
IMPLANT
1. To instill or inculcate firmly in the mind;
2. To insert or imbed in the body

The following is a description of the content of my books for those who have not read them:

Book One is THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET and it is basically ET 101 which gives the basics of abductions including past life abductions, religious manipulation, underground base info, etc. There is one chapter called "The Attic" which covers how even short Grays are involved in religious implanting. This book also covers abductions of my second wife and two children as well as other abductees that I worked with.

Book Two is THE EYE OF RA which covers the basic ET groups that have been implanting this planet in more recent times. I refer to them as the Extra-Terrestrial Conspirators, or ETCs. It mostly covers Grays, Reptilians, the human-looking Serpent Staff Pleiadians (SSPs/Annunaki) which are responsible for establishing the mainstream "worship God" religions and secret societies, the Mantis beings who run the implanting motherships and who also participate occasionally in abductions. These groups wear different hats but work together in a coordinated effort to create this prison planet. For example, I found that the SSPs work with the Mantis beings regarding religious/secret society manipulation and even use the same type of ships (or perhaps the very same craft). I was able to tap into this information because the ETCs track abductees from lifetime to lifetime and sometimes place them in positions of power/authority or in religions or secret societies. I also cover channeling in THE EYE OF RA as I had firsthand experience with it and I cover my experiences in a deep underground military/Grays base in the Pacific Northwest (USA).

If you are new to the ET abduction phenomenon, I would suggest first reading THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET. However, if you are short on time and you have already read books on ET abductions, I would suggest just reading the THE EYE OF RA as I wrote it as a stand alone book which contains advanced material and it also contains some material which was in THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET.

If you would like to read about my Deep Underground Military Base experience, here is a link to that:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113494-My-underground-base-experience&p=1400388&viewfull=1#post1400388

Yours in The Awakening,
Truman L. Cash

[TrumanCash]

Here is an update to my books. 2012 was a life-changing year for me regarding my status as an "abductee".

I was successful in the spring of 2012 in getting a brain implant removed and I have not been abducted since then. This was the same type of brain implant that I talked about in the EYE OF RA in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter. It is a horrible implant that Grays insert between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. It is a physical implant that goes directly into my brain. They've done this to me twice before.

For the past several years I have only experienced about one abduction every two years. During the mid-90s when I was first implanted with this brain implant I was experiencing as many as two or three abductions per week.

However, things changed about a year ago and I began to be abducted about once a month (on average) and it appears that abductions in general increased during this time period for some other abductees. My recent abductions started around the first of December 2011. About three months later I was implanted again with a physical brain implant, the one that goes between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. I was having a pretty tough time with it.

Here's what happened: I was abducted on February 29, 2012. Sperm was taken with one of their devices. I also went nose to nose, as it were, with a tall Gray and gave him a piece of my mind. I was implanted again on that night with the brain implant.

What had happened is that I got up in the night to go to the bathroom. I sat down on the toilet and then was floated up into the ship. After the sperm collection, confrontation and implantation I was floated back down on the toilet.

When I stood up and walked out of the bathroom I became dizzy and then collapsed unconscious on the kitchen floor. It was a wooden floor so I hit hard, fell over a chair, injuring my ribs, and hit my head on the floor. I went unconscious for a bit less than a minute according to a witness who had entered the room right after I fell. When I came to I didn't know who I was or where I was. It took me about a half hour or so to regain my memory. This was the second worst abduction that I have experienced this lifetime.

I was abducted again on March 25, 2012. As usual, sperm was taken. It was a particularly rough abduction, physically speaking, as my left side and lower back were injured. On March 24th, before the abduction, the Grays turned up the heat, so to speak, on my brain implant, causing excessive and unnatural drowsiness and a dull headache. This condition persisted through the following day. I therefore slept during the day and basically took it easy. I could actually feel the location of the physical implant centered in the front portion of my brain behind my forehead. I tried to read but found it very difficult to do so.

However, in April I initiated telepathic contact with the Gray that implanted me. It could also be described as remote viewing as I could "see" what was going on though it was visually a bit blurry. He was in the implanting room and the implanting table was behind him. As usual, it had the jointed implanting arm at the head of the table with the implanting device (which looked somewhat like a camera) attached to the end of the implanting arm.

Perhaps the term "remote viewing" is not applicable in this case because I was on the ship (out of body) and also in my body on Earth. Most of my attention was being out of body on the ship and positioned right in front of the Gray's head while communicating with him telepathically. At one point I was actually in his head. (I have had in the past conscious telepathic contact once before with a Gray. Read "Journey to Discovery" in THE EYE OF RA for the details.)

This Gray felt bad about implanting me and didn't realize the implant was harming me. He indicated that it was his job and he had to answer to his superiors. I asked if he could remove the brain implant and I promised not be a problem for them in the future as I regain my spiritual abilities.

He had to ask his superiors who were in a different room on the ship and he finally got the okay to remove the implant. It was subsequently removed a couple nights later! However, the night that it was removed I was a bit resistive because I thought they were going to implant me again. Anyway, they took it out and I became friends with the Gray that implanted me and very grateful that he removed the implant. I call him "Arnie". I have never contacted him since the removal of the implant.

Edit: Update December 23, 2025: As of this date I have not been abducted since the removal of the implant in April of 2012. Hallelujah!

[TrumanCash]

Here is an introduction to my research, which was originally posted on the matrixrevealed.com website. I no longer maintain or own the rights to that URL.

There are basically two facets to the "situation" regarding Earth cultures: 1) the visible control by elitists who are implementing a Big Brother-style one world "governance"; and 2) the invisible control by beings "behind the curtain". As above--so below.

Beings that people refer to as extra-terrestrials (ETs), aliens, fallen angels, demons, etc. have created a matrix of deception in order to control the inhabitants of Earth. I discovered this matrix primarily because 1) as a truth seeker I have an insatiable desire to understand the nature of reality and 2) because I am a "chosen one".

A "chosen one" is an individual who is contacted and abducted by extra-terrestrials repeatedly from lifetime to lifetime. The term "chosen one" is a term that the ETs themselves use both to describe us, to flatter us and to deceive us. "Chosen ones" are sometimes placed in high-level positions in governments, secret societies and religions. By conducting extensive past life research with "chosen ones", the true, hidden history of Planet Earth can be discovered.

In my independent research I have discovered that a powerful, but invisible guiding hand has been steering the course of human events on this planet for many thousands of years. I call these beings Extra-Terrestrial Conspirators, or ETCs. They are the puppet masters who pull the strings of the world's elite, who in turn pull the strings of the common people. They are the hidden cause of chaos and war on Planet Earth.

The ETCs are extremely clever, and their technology appears to us as magic. With this amazing technology they have built a labyrinth so elaborate and so vast that it boggles the imagination. Like sinister cosmic spiders they have spun a silky web of deceit that seduces people to imprison themselves with ideas.

However, these beings are not infallible. Past life research is the key that unlocks the door to the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy and demonstrates that we are all incredible spiritual beings. Past life memory retrieval, properly done on an individual basis, can free us from the machinations of these beings and offers hope for a new world of peace and understanding.

PAST LIFE RESEARCH REVEALS HIDDEN HISTORY

I have spent over twenty years conducting past life research and trying to assemble the pieces to this incredible puzzle. Its incredibility is, in fact, one of its primary defenses. The revelations within the pages of my books will seem too unbelievable and too bizarre to be taken seriously by most people. However, if one takes the time to read all the information, the dots will surprisingly all connect and all the pieces to this incredible puzzle will fall in place in a way that is truly uncanny.

I have found that there are people who do indeed want to know what is going on on Planet Earth and are ready to confront the unvarnished truth about alien machinations. It is for these discerning people that I present my research documentation free of charge.

Many people are now aware of an ET group that is often referred to as "Grays". However, at center stage of the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy is a group of human-looking ETs who have repeatedly contacted "chosen ones" to establish religions and secret societies. I call this human-looking ET group "Serpent Staff Pleiadians" (SSPs) due to their use of the serpent/staff, winged (flying) serpent and Pleiadian symbolism.

The SSPs have contacted many "chosen ones" throughout history using Space/Time Vehicles or STVs (often called "flying disks", "flying saucers", "space ships" or "UFOs"). The SSPs have deceived Earth inhabitants by claiming to be Gods who must be worshipped (under threat of annihilation). One could also call the SSPs the "Illu" or "Ilu" since that is their more ancient name from which the words "Illuminati" and "Illusion" were apparently derived. This group of ETs is also referred to as the Annunaki.

I must also point out that benevolent ETs do exist. This is a vast universe that is teeming with sentient life forms. Some of them are benevolent and caring while others are not. As below--so above.

RESEARCH DOCUMENTATION

I have learned effective, reliable memory retrieval techniques that allowed me to see the "man behind the curtain". To date I have recovered over 80 abduction experiences and over 130 past life experiences. I have also worked with 44 other "chosen ones" including family and friends.

My research with abductees then inspired me to conduct library research about religions, secret societies and "mythology". Nearly all of this additional research came from library books, not the internet. My library research confirmed what I had discovered through my own independent research with "chosen ones".

However, this information is not just about me, my personal experiences or research, but about the situation as it exists in reality for all inhabitants of Earth. A scientific experiment can be repeated again and again, yielding the same results. In like manner, anyone can conduct their own research using the same tools and methods that I have used in order to arrive at the same basic conclusions. Therefore, it is neither necessary nor is it desired for anyone to simply take my word for it based on blind faith.

The ETCs often inflict physical and emotional pain in order to reinforce the matrix. This is trauma-based programming. Therefore, this material is not advised for the faint at heart or people who are experiencing a major illness, either physical or mental.

I have had to use pseudonyms and edit out the birth names of abductees in both books (using white-out) because two of the abductees involved wanted to protect their privacy (after I had printed the books). I obtained permission from the abductees to use their information as long as I do not reveal their birth names. Since some of the abductees are family members I have also had to refrain from giving my birth name in order to protect their privacy. I recorded the memory retrieval sessions with these abductees and then carefully transcribed the recorded tapes so as to thoroughly document the research.

UNDERGROUND BASE INFORMATION

[UPDATE NOV 2020: I have now released the location of this base that I and a friend were abducted into. It is in north central Washington State between Palmer Lake, Wannacut Lake and Spectacle Lake.

I recently (Nov 2020) used the National Geographic satellite map to locate the coordinates of the base and I found a very curious looking square where the base was and apparently still is. This square looked very out of place on the satellite map. The longitude of that area is -119.62 and the latitude is 48.92. I don't know how to get it any closer for now. More info here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=1386620&viewfull=1#post1386620). ]

I have more recently updated my DUMB experience with maps:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113494-My-underground-base-experience&p=1400388&viewfull=1#post1400388

I originally edited out the location of a deep underground military/alien base where I was abducted. When I released my books online I did not reveal the location of this base for the following reasons:

1) This underground base is located on private property;

2) Anyone who gets close to it may have a very unpleasant experience if they get abducted (and their memory of it will be occluded);

3) It is not my intention to piss off the military/government personnel involved with aliens as I believe we need to give amnesty to non-violent people involved with the government/alien cover-up because they may not have much choice in the matter anyway;

4) I believe that I will not be harassed or attacked if I do not disclose the location of this base;

5) Disclosure of the location of this base would not serve any beneficial purpose;

6) It appears that some kind of agreement was made between the US government and deceptive ETCs and this agreement involved obtaining technology. This is understandable. It is a natural response--and usually a prudent one--for a less advanced civilization to obtain the technology of an advanced civilization that could be a threat. For example, native Americans acquired horses and eventually acquired guns from the European invaders. The right of self defense is not just a human right--it is a universal right. However, the word "invasion" would not properly characterize our current situation.

7) There are many of these deep underground bases in the US and those in the Southwest US are already well known. There are UFO researchers such as Bill Hamilton as well as researcher Richard Sauder who covers Underground Bases & Tunnels in his books. Also, the proverbial cat has already been let out of the bag in the early 1990s when researchers like abductee Dr. Karla Turner exposed the underground base connection as well as the incredible ability of ETs to deceive. Also, underground base engineer and abductee Phil Schneider violated his secrecy oath/contract to inform people about the extensive underground bases and ET connection. I knew Phil personally and consider him to be a true hero who gave his life to expose the truth.

It is time to build bridges instead of walls. It is a time for healing. Trying to solve problems with secrecy, violence and wars has obviously failed to solve the world's problems; it only succeeds at traumatizing mankind and thwarting our growth as spiritual beings. That is why I support amnesty for those involved with underground bases or the government cover-up. Also, given the incredible abilities of the ETCs to control the minds of Earth humans it is possible that some of the individuals involved with such "government" projects may not be capable of saying "No thanks".

It appears that a schism has developed in military-intelligence sectors whereby some personnel do not want to continue down the same old road of man's inhumanity to man. After all, shouldn't humans be on the side of humans?

Granted that it is generally prudent for a less advanced culture to obtain the higher technology of a potential adversary, it must be questioned--At what price? Should we sacrifice sanity and spiritual advancement for the technological candy from ETs? Or is it even possible to politely back out of "agreements" with manipulative ETs who lie at every turn? Are benevolent ETs waiting for humans to make the first move away from this insane, inhumane paradigm?

RESEARCH METHODS

This research is unbiased because I am not an official member of any religion or secret society, nor do I have any connections with the CIA, NSA, ONI or other military/governmental agency. Even though I have studied various religious philosophies, I do not identify myself with any specific religion. I only refer to myself as a "truth seeker" and "free thinker". I do believe in the universal principle that the truth can set us free. And truth can be found in many places and in many different religions. Also, this is not channeled information. In my books I have documented the raw, recorded memory retrieval sessions of real people. With this information truth seekers can connect all the dots in the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy.

Unfortunately, some abduction researchers have been injecting false data into the abduction phenomenon because they are connected with the CIA, etc. They have intentionally omitted pertinent data and phenomena as well. Also, their research is colored by their personal philosophies--their viewpoints limited by their self-imposed parameters of reality. Therefore, much of the data in my books will be new even to seasoned abduction researchers.

Unfortunately, many researchers and students of the "UFO" phenomenon get stuck in the Blind-Man-and-the-Elephant syndrome. That is, they grab on to only part of the elephant (i.e., a piece of the puzzle) thinking they have the whole picture. This phenomenon, of course, can keep one from examining other pieces of the puzzle, which may be out of one's comfort zone or may violate religious taboos. However, when one finally puts all the pieces to the puzzle together it paints a very clear and coherent picture.

I have primarily used non-hypnotic memory retrieval techniques that are in many ways more reliable, safer, less stressful and more therapeutic than hypnosis. Abductions can be very traumatic and these techniques have proven invaluable in relieving the mental, emotional and physical traumas of the abduction experience. Additionally, these techniques can help abductees access and disable the mental programming that ETs use to control, disempower and deceive them.

THE TIME IS NOW

I retired from the "UFO" circus a number of years ago. The time was not right to release this information to the public. I am releasing it now because I believe people are better prepared for this information due to the internet and alternative media. I've also noticed that some forums on the internet are beginning to address topics that few people would even consider in the mid-90s when I first released this information--Topics like past life ET contacts, out of body abductions and in-between lives implants.

Of course, abduction researchers like Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, et al, were reporting similar phenomena in the 1990s. Also, other unrelated research has validated various aspects of my research and experiences, e.g., Zecharia Sitchin's books, William Bramley (GODS OF EDEN), Dr. Edith Fiore (ENCOUNTERS), underground base engineer/abductee Phil Schneider, etc.

The Bilderbergers and other elitists appear to be making their final moves at full throttle to implement a 1984-style martial law/police state--even though they may not call it that--and a cashless society. With elitist politicians advocating control over the internet and alternative media, I feel a sense of urgency to give this information to others who will save this information to computer disk and paper in the event of future censorship.

Yours in The Awakening,
Truman L. Cash

UPDATE NOV 2020: The reason why I have now released the location of this deep underground military/Grays base is because some rather brave people have already released the locations of these DUMBs and the tunnel system that connects them worldwide. These people are not being "suicided" now like Phil Schneider was back in the mid-90s. However, people have moved into this previously isolated area right next to where the base entrance was so I would caution people not to go into that area out of respect for their privacy and/or the possibility that they are there to guard the DUMB operations there.

[Hervé]

Hi Truman!

Thank you for collecting your material under its own thread.

I have been promoting your work and method for a while now, at least since these posts:



If we are eternal beings that continually incarnate AND this world is ruled by evil control freak types, then why do we keep incarnating here?



The best way I ever found how to evaluate a question is this other one:


Is the answer to the question worth knowing?



AFAIAC, the answer to Fox's question is about the primary one worth knowing. By that I mean the actual reality of it; not excuses, cope outs, vacuum fillings or justifications. There's only an infinitesimal number of individuals who consciously decided to come down here and have a look at what's going on. The vast majority keeps bouncing off religions, philosophies or "secret knowledge" and a promise of a better after-life in most cases.

Well, is that true?

If one applies the "as below, so above" and corollary to the state of this planet and the psychos who managed to take the control of... I don't think it's any different "above." The "prison planet" and the recycling of souls -- not to mention the "harvest" -- might be quite too real especially on the account of this being an "experiment" whether one follows Bob Dean, Alex Collier or "Charles."

For an idea and account of the "recycling" of souls, one would need to read this guy's disturbing experience:

http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/

Where he explains how the programming of a planet takes place... this may be too real and disturbing for some.



Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:

Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):



“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.

“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.

"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."


How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?

Here is a site one can start from.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/

Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.

[Hervé]

Oooopsss... sorry Truman, it seems I scared everybody...

[Jean-Luc]

Oooopsss... sorry Truman, it seems I scared everybody...

Well, not quite everybody.
Likewise I have been 'promoting' your work too, Truman...

which as everyone knows is fairly challenging in our 'Truman Show' society!

[TrumanCash]

Thanks Amzer Zo and Jean-Luc for your interest and support!

It's interesting that you mention the "Truman Show", Jean-Luc. One of my favorites. The movie is certainly a metaphor for the present system on this planet. It is one of the inspirations for using my pen name "Truman" (True Man).

In the movie, Truman was the first human adopted by a corporation. In the US the Social Security Administration is actually a corporation, not a government entity. Although the Social Security number is not required it is forced upon people under Title 42, Section 666 (http://www.healthfreedom.info/mark_of_the_beast.htm). There is now an International Social Security system (http://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/social-security-the-international-mark-of-the-beast/) being implemented. This number and system is the main control mechanism of the lower, more visible level of the matrix. I have revoked my SS number, left the corporate system and live under Natural Law (http://www.healthfreedom.info/natural_law.htm) (True man). It is very difficult to do and may be virtually impossible to do in the future if people do not reject this "beast" system.

The Illuminati (http://bavarianilluminati.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/washington-the-illuminati/) have been using religion to control people so it is no surprise that they created this "beast" system using the numbers 666. I used to have a pro-Rockefeller book wherein it was stated that David Rockefeller and Allen Dulles used to meet after church and discuss how they could control religion.

Aaron Russo's (http://freedomtofascism.com/)friend, Nick Rockefeller, told him that their plan was to create a cashless society where everyone would be chipped. This was revealed in an interview of Aaron Russo by Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3NA17CCboA). And, of course, this will all be created under the "beast" global social security system and number.

Also, in the Truman Show, you will find symbols of the Serpent Staff Pleiadian group--the rising sun and the star in the east, Sirius, which heralds the rising sun (in ancient Egypt).

Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!

Truman L. Cash

[Sebastion]

Truman, I appreciate everything you have to say and look forward to whatever information you have to share!

[lookbeyond]

Sometimes waking up is a sad and disappointing affair- trouble is once youve started theres no going back and in my case i cant slow the momentum...

[Star Tsar]

Hey Truman thanks for bringing this infomation forward & the books.
Very interested in learning more about your non-hypnotic memory retrieval techniques.

:lever:

[TrumanCash]

Thanks, Sebastion. What level of the matrix are you most interested in?

Truman


Truman, I appreciate everything you have to say and look forward to whatever information you have to share!

[TrumanCash]

Yes, well, the truth can us free, but it's not always pretty. Once you take that red pill.....

I've found in learning more truth it has unsettled me, stirs things up, makes me uncomfortable for a while, sometimes even angry, but at the end of each challenge I feel more fulfilled. I feel more able and stable because knowledge can be used to increase survival potential. Enjoy the ride!

Truman


Sometimes waking up is a sad and disappointing affair- trouble is once youve started theres no going back and in my case i cant slow the momentum...

[TrumanCash]

You are most welcome. I do have some information on the memory retrieval techniques I used for research and therapy but the document is probably too long to place here. You can email me at TrumanCash@live.com and I'll send the document as an attachment to you.


Hey Truman thanks for bringing this infomation forward & the books.
Very interested in learning more about your non-hypnotic memory retrieval techniques.

:lever:

[Chester]

Hi Truman, when I discovered Houman's Horus-Ra thread on April 26th, I felt a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. It was soon after that, with the direct help of Amzer-Zo that I became familiar with your two books and then you suddenly joined Avalon. Without wasting time on the specific details, I am certain I had been (and may still be) dealing with a Horus-Ra entity. It was no coincidence all the synchronicities I experienced while reading (studying closely) your two books. I particularly loved The Eye of Ra. What was intriguing is when I asked you your view of Spirit versus "the soul" and I appreciate your response.

In my particular case (something I am finally becoming comfortable in sharing) has been a direct, undeniable relationship with the Star system, Sirius - a relationship I have been aware of consciously since year 2000. I searched through your materials and though I did find a few references to Sirius, I did not get the impression you had much direct experience with Siriusians though I don't want to assume anything just because you did not write much about it in your two books.

The reason for my interest is in hopes of connecting more dots such that I might achieve more personal resolution to some deep seated resentments related to my life's experience.

On the one hand, some folks consider this "earth experience" as some sort of "school" (ala Finefeather who I respect greatly) and on the other hand some regard our earth based, physical/material realm experience as being the result of an imprisonment by a pure, evil source known as the "archontic forces" or "satanic/demonic forces" with no hope of resolution other than escaping the constant reincarnative complex within which some believe we are hopelessly trapped - even to the degree of which 'observer' sees this matter - someone else I have come to respect here greatly.

I am rather open minded about it all, yet though I have no first hand experience with actual human ritual sacrifice, I am of the opinion that the practice does occur on and within earth today and that this practice acts as an emotional gravity of sorts that binds us to the lower vibrational frequency emotions.

I have my own views as to how we might approach solution in this regard and at the same time I am still unraveling my own personal mysteries which, I believe, until I have a better handle on the personal matters, I doubt I can be of much help in the macrocosm... at least at the level of 3D earth at this time.

Any expansion by you as to your take on the role Sirius (and thus Siriusians) might be playing with regards to the larger picture on earth is greatly appreciated. Go into as great a depth as you possibly can and are willing to do.

Kind Regards and Love to You, Truman... Chester

[TrumanCash]

Hello, Chester. Unfortunately, I do not have a lot of data about Sirius other than the manipulation by the Serpent Staff Pleiadian ETs. That is, Sirius heralds the Rising Sun (Ra), which is how these ETs manipulated ancient Egyptians to worship them, identify them with the lights in the sky and accept a complex mythology and belief system about them.

The main problem we have is that even though an ET or a group of ETs may say that they come from a certain star or star group, we have no way reliable way to ascertain whether or not that is a true statement. They could be lying to throw us off the track or associate them with other ET groups. I know one reliable person who has indicated just that from his personal experience and research.

The other problem is that an ET saying he or she or it is from Sirius is like saying "Oh, I'm from Chicago." Well, there are a lot of people living in Chicago and they are all individuals. Some of them are exceptionally polite, caring people while others would mug you and rape you (and they might even be next door neighbors). Another example is the Pleiadians. Many ETs have told contactees they are from the Pleiades. Well, it is my understanding that the Pleiades star group consists of over 250 stars, not just 7. And even if we just consider those seven stars, can you imagine how great the distance is between those stars and how great an area that would include? And how many planets, artificial "moons" or motherships would that include? I don't have a clue. Therefore, identifying any ET group with a particular star or star group does not, in my view, tell us much of anything.

Best Wishes,
Truman


Hi Truman, when I discovered Houman's Horus-Ra thread on April 26th, I felt a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. It was soon after that, with the direct help of Amzer-Zo that I became familiar with your two books and then you suddenly joined Avalon. Without wasting time on the specific details, I am certain I had been (and may still be) dealing with a Horus-Ra entity. It was no coincidence all the synchronicities I experienced while reading (studying closely) your two books. I particularly loved The Eye of Ra. What was intriguing is when I asked you your view of Spirit versus "the soul" and I appreciate your response.

In my particular case (something I am finally becoming comfortable in sharing) has been a direct, undeniable relationship with the Star system, Sirius - a relationship I have been aware of consciously since year 2000. I searched through your materials and though I did find a few references to Sirius, I did not get the impression you had much direct experience with Siriusians though I don't want to assume anything just because you did not write much about it in your two books.

The reason for my interest is in hopes of connecting more dots such that I might achieve more personal resolution to some deep seated resentments related to my life's experience.

On the one hand, some folks consider this "earth experience" as some sort of "school" (ala Finefeather who I respect greatly) and on the other hand some regard our earth based, physical/material realm experience as being the result of an imprisonment by a pure, evil source known as the "archontic forces" or "satanic/demonic forces" with no hope of resolution other than escaping the constant reincarnative complex within which some believe we are hopelessly trapped - even to the degree of which 'observer' sees this matter - someone else I have come to respect here greatly.

I am rather open minded about it all, yet though I have no first hand experience with actual human ritual sacrifice, I am of the opinion that the practice does occur on and within earth today and that this practice acts as an emotional gravity of sorts that binds us to the lower vibrational frequency emotions.

I have my own views as to how we might approach solution in this regard and at the same time I am still unraveling my own personal mysteries which, I believe, until I have a better handle on the personal matters, I doubt I can be of much help in the macrocosm... at least at the level of 3D earth at this time.

Any expansion by you as to your take on the role Sirius (and thus Siriusians) might be playing with regards to the larger picture on earth is greatly appreciated. Go into as great a depth as you possibly can and are willing to do.

Kind Regards and Love to You, Truman... Chester

[Chester]

This pretty much sums up the answer I basically expected. Essentially, there is good and bad in every group... regardless of where a member of that group may hail from (or represent that they hail from which could be a lie).

My concern is with the entity or entities I believe I have been associated with. On the one hand, that I seem to have obtained a new form of sovereignty in the relationship and the nature of the relationship has changed such that either the one or more entities have themselves changed, or that they have actually left or the third possibility... that I am simply allowing myself to be set up, is something I cannot answer at this time but would not trust a third party's view of this as the end all to be all as well.

Houman's words to me were directly, "If it were me, I would get rid of it."

Maybe I have... so if I have, what are the voices now I speak with? Voices that not only reply, but that prove to me their are real based on the reality reflections - just too mathematically impossible to occur if there is not some type of connectiveness with the actual reality matrix machine - some say is actually digital - Thomas Campbell for example (My Big Toe) and if that is the case, could we be dealing with an intelligence that has us all trapped within this matrix where a few of us get to the point we simply cry uncle and accept it for what it is (which means accepting our condition)?

That some SSP group may be behind this, impersonating beings from some star (note I originally did a Freudian typo and wrote "start" which I corrected now upon rereading my post) system we know as Sirius and that a whole segment of humanity is duped by this and builds monuments to "it," names cities after "it," creates secret societies because of "it" and that some goofball like me taps into the code and somehow... reaches a state within himself... that I have come to terms with it all, that I declare peace with myself, peace with all that is and peace with all of us within this all that is and my life essentially instantly transforms into a calm, serene, beautiful experience and its all because I am being bull****ted by some evil SSPs?

I actually believe this is possible as I am pretty damn open minded to everything - but then, if this is that case... what good is anything? What good is it to even wake up each day? What good is it to feel the smile I show upon my face? What good is it that my children see me, see the me that is, see me as an example of life when life has no meaning other than to be a power supply for some parasitic unensouled false beings?

I would rather be a fool and believe one can extricate themselves from the depths of the matrix and not for themselves, but as an example to the ones they know and love (a sphere which has expanded for me to include all life and all that is within and without the material realms... to realms I cannot as yet even conceive).

Anyways, maybe I should change my name to justoneoptimist or justonefool.

Or maybe tomorrow I will go back to the idea it makes more sense to leave the way my father did as everything has no meaning... but then, if I did, I would would end it all via a lie to myself and that just won't happen.

I really appreciate you, Truman, and I appreciate this Forum that you joined and Houman for his Horus-Ra thread... a year ago, I could never imagine I would be in the "place" I am now.

I just can't ever give up hope we can all exit the nightmare and do so for good.

[lookbeyond]

This pretty much sums up the answer I basically expected. Essentially, there is good and bad in every group... regardless of where a member of that group may hail from (or represent that they hail from which could be a lie).

My concern is with the entity or entities I believe I have been associated with. On the one hand, that I seem to have obtained a new form of sovereignty in the relationship and the nature of the relationship has changed such that either the one or more entities have themselves changed, or that they have actually left or the third possibility... that I am simply allowing myself to be set up, is something I cannot answer at this time but would not trust a third parties view of this as the end all to be all as well.

Houman's words to me were directly, "If it were me, I would get rid of it."

Maybe I have... so if I have, what are the voices now I speak with? Voices that not only reply, but that prove to me their are real based on the reality reflections - just too mathematically impossible to occur if there is not some type of connectiveness with the actual reality matrix machine - some say is actually digital - Thomas Campbell for example (My Big Toe) and if that is the case, could we be dealing with an intelligence that has us all trapped within this matrix where a few of us get to the point we simply cry uncle and accept it for what it is (which means accepting our condition)?

That some SSP group may be behind this, impersonating beings from some star (note I originally did a Freudian typo and wrote "start" which I corrected now upon rereading my post) system we know as Sirius and that a whole segment of humanity is duped by this and builds monuments to "it," names cities after "it," creates secret societies because of "it" and that some goofball like me taps into the code and somehow... reaches a state within himself... that I have come to terms with it all, that I declare peace with myself, peace with all that is and peace with all of us within this all that is and my life essentially instantly transforms into a calm, serene, beautiful experience and its all because I am being bull****ted by some evil SSPs?

I actually believe this is possible as i am pretty damn open minded to everything - but then, if this is that case... what good is anything? What good is it to even wake up each day? What good is it to feel the smile I show upon my face? What good is it that my children see me, see the me that is, see me as an example of life when life has no meaning other than to be a power supply for some parasitic unensouled false beings?

I would rather be a fool and believe one can extricate themselves from the depths of the matrix and not for themselves, but as an example to the ones they know and love (a sphere which has expanded for me to include all life and all that is within and without the material realms... to realms I cannot as yet even conceive).

Anyways, maybe I should change my name to justoneoptimist or justonefool.

Or maybe tomorrow I will go back to the idea it makes more sense to leave the way my father did as everything has no meaning... but then, if I did, I would would end it all via a lie to myself and that just won't happen.

I really appreciate you, Truman, and I appreciate this Forum that you joined and Houman for his Horus-Ra thread... a year ago, I could never imagine I would be in the "place" I am now.

I just can't ever give up hope we can all exit the nightmare and do so for good.

You know, ive fairly well come to the conclusion that simply we wont know till we go- ie die to 3D. In the meantime to prevent possible insanity ( just joking) re various possibilities ive decided to follow my intuition which is basically operate from the heart
and continue my belief that return to source is inevitable eventually and that source is ultimately love.

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[TrumanCash]

Justoneman stated: "I just can't ever give up hope we can all exit the nightmare and do so for good." (I am assuming that "nightmare" is synonymous with "matrix" specifically in relation to this planet.)

Likewise, I do not give up hope that some can exit the nightmare matrix. However, some entities actually like being in it and do not want to exit it. It is my understanding and experience that to leave the matrix one must leave the physical universe. I have talked with and heard about people who have done this. One of my best friends left the physical universe and could have stayed out of it if he wanted to. However, he decided to come back and help some of his friends out of it (or at least cope with it or change it for the better).

If I were to have the same opportunity to do so at some point in the future, I would probably do the same. After all, it might get a bit boring when you don't have a game to play or an adventure to experience.

Although Earth is a beautiful planet, I would rather leave after this lifetime and find a saner group of beings to be with. I am aware of more spiritually-oriented planets and space-based groups. It's pretty screwed up here due to the machinations of egocentric ETs and sociopathic control freaks. I can certainly do without the war, torture, violence and pain. Therefore, I am working on increasing my spiritual abilities and awareness to exit the mess on this planet. I am happy to report that I am making good progress.

The fact that I could have a brain implant removed and end the abductions with the help of a couple very skilled people proves to me that miracles can happen. Therefore, I am continuing to learn these advanced techniques to gain more control of my life vis-a-vis the matrix. It doing so, my understanding of how this matrix is constructed is increasing. I am now seeing how the awareness I had gained in the mid-90s about the matrix (as documented in my books) fits into an even bigger picture. And it all makes logical sense.

It is my experience from extensive past life work and from talking with others who have done likewise, that we all created the matrix in the first place. So perhaps the first step in the positive direction would be to take responsibility for creating it. From my own viewpoint in taking responsibility I realize that I want to help change the matrix/nightmare for the better while I am in it. I therefore operate on various levels of the matrix to affect positive change in whatever ways that I can.

It is my understanding and experience that implants have played a major part in the construction of the matrix, if not the major part. By implants I mean the programming that was done over trillions upon trillions of years of existence. Although there are and have been very high-tech, electronic methods for installing these implants such as force beams, it is essentially the same as the MKUltra type of programming--a being is overwhelmed by force, pain (and sometimes drugs) into unconsciousness, whereupon the being can be reprogrammed with post-hypnotic commands. These implants form the very structure and appearance of the society we live in today. We all have been dramatizing our programming without knowing that we are doing so.

The technology does now exist on this planet for unraveling these implants. Furthermore, along the way one must realize one's role in creating them--that is, that we have been both the implanter and the implantee in past lives. As one continues to dissolve the implants, one's awareness, well-being and spiritual abilities naturally appear. To the extent that each person does this, the matrix begins to crumble. This is because each one of us is holding the matrix in place. And that is because we are gods and our thoughts are creating it.

TLC

[Sebastion]

Hi Truman, just finished reading your Eye of Ra book and found it well written, well done. You did an extraordinary job of connecting many dots, kudos to you! No questions come to mind just yet, perhaps later. Thank you for writing it!




Thanks, Sebastion. What level of the matrix are you most interested in?

Truman


Truman, I appreciate everything you have to say and look forward to whatever information you have to share!

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for your kind words, Sebastion. It was not difficult connecting the dots after I did the past life work with abductees, myself included, and then did some book research. The dots pretty much connected themselves. It became very obvious what has been going on. Now that I am continuing the past life research even more dots are connecting and a much bigger picture is unfolding. The pieces to this enormous and intricate matrix puzzle fit together very well.

TLC



Hi Truman, just finished reading your Eye of Ra book and found it well written, well done. You did an extraordinary job of connecting many dots, kudos to you! No questions come to mind just yet, perhaps later. Thank you for writing it!




Thanks, Sebastion. What level of the matrix are you most interested in?

Truman


Truman, I appreciate everything you have to say and look forward to whatever information you have to share!

[Chester]

Justoneman stated: "I just can't ever give up hope we can all exit the nightmare and do so for good." (I am assuming that "nightmare" is synonymous with "matrix" specifically in relation to this planet.)

Likewise, I do not give up hope that some can exit the nightmare matrix. However, some entities actually like being in it and do not want to exit it. It is my understanding and experience that to leave the matrix one must leave the physical universe.

I have to be honest... this is absolutely not what I want to believe. I want to believe that if I leave the war I wage within myself, I have exited the matrix.

But I am also very open minded and always flexible about what I end up placing onto my shelf of higher truths - a shelf that is quite sparse these days.

In addition there's a poster here named observer who I believe takes this same view and I have come to highly respect observer which means I have opened my mind further to this possibility (again, a possibility I do not want to believe).

Also, my studies of Gnostics literature and that what they suggest could be interpreted this way... and then with experts such as John Lamb Lash whom I believe shares this same view.

Consider the reasonably modern "gnostic" group, the Cathars -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism

Note that "Perfecti" have the intent that upon their death they never return to material realms.

Some modern day Gnostics also share this same view.

But I just don't want to accept this might be true... I don't want to believe this. I believe that we can solve the lower egoic issues within our shared, material realm/physical realm experience.

But as I stated, I am wide open minded and just because I want something, just because I prefer to believe something does not mean that will turn out to be the truth.

What a dilemma... damn - justoneman

[TrumanCash]

In this universe and perhaps other universes there is a Natural Law of Consent. It is the same Natural Law (http://www.healthfreedom.info/natural_law.htm) principle that was written about in the early stages of what later became the United States of America (but the US has since been transformed into the control center for global domination by the beings controlling this planet.) The law of consent was established in the Declaration of Independence as "governments derive their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed". Unfortunately, that is no longer followed by the de facto "government".

The matrix of this particular universe was formed and is held in place by the violation of the Law of Consent.

For example, abductions by Grays, Reptilians and Mantis beings are a violation of this most important universal principle. The Mantis beings are the most active in the implantation and control of this planet. They are the "man behind the curtain". I documented this fact in THE EYE OF RA. I have more recently traced the Mantis beings involvement with implantation vis-a-vis Earth back to at least 75 million years ago. What they do not know is that they themselves have been implanted to be implanters. Like mindless robots they are simple carrying out their programming which was installed many millions of years ago.

The Grays, Reptilians and Mantis beings are some of the biggest liars in the universe. They work very hard at convincing abductees/contactees and people who listen to channeled messages that we "agreed" to being abducted. This may be true for a very few contactees/abductees, but I have found that it is generally not true at all. It is propaganda to justify their nefarious activities to keep us in spiritual darkness.

I never agreed to be abducted, yet I was constantly admonished by New Agers that I had agreed to be an abductee. The New Agers were simply accepting the propaganda from "channeled entities". As I discovered, the reason that I became an abductee was that I was trying to stop the abductions by Grays over fifteen thousand years ago. So the Mantis beings abducted me and forced me into the artifically-created reincarnation system on this planet so that they can continue to violate the Law of Consent. In spite of this, I am still actively working to restore the Universal Law of Consent on and around this planet.

The very definition of the word "abduction" means that one is taken against one's will. That they can somehow convince an abductee/contactee that they agreed to all of that nonsense is fraud. And fraud itself is a violation of the Law of Consent. No one in their right mind would want to be deceived so that they could be tortured and implanted.

Obviously, they can control abductees better if the abductees believe that they agreed to be abducted. But beyond that it appears that these control freak ETs must maintain at least an appearance of "agreement" or "consent" in order to get away with what they are doing vis-a-vis other galactic powers. Fortunately, not all ETs in this galaxy and universe are as deranged as the ETs that are controlling this planet.

The basic problem of this universe is the violation of the Law of Consent via implantation. This is MKUltra-style mind control using very high-tech "ET" technology. The Mantis beings are experts at it.

This is not to say that all Mantis beings, Grays, and Reptilians, etc, are bad. I'm only referring to the control freak ETs that abduct people. An ethical being will not try to hide their actions by installing amnesia. An ethical being would not shoot you with thousands of volts of electricity to shock you into unconsciousness so that they can implant post-hypnotic suggestions. Unfortunately, this is exactly what Mantis beings do!

They are the beings that are running the "going to the light" technology to manipulate people's religious beliefs. The "light at the end of the tunnel" is just a very advanced technology (from our perspective). They also work together with the human-looking "Serpent Staff Pleiadian" ETs who have been very busy masquerading as "Gods" and establishing religions and secret societies and teaching "Satanic" rituals throughout Earth's history (as I have documented in THE EYE OF RA.) It is a very coordinated effort to keep mankind in spiritual darkness and in a constant state of war. That is why I refer to them as the Extra-Terrestrial Conspirators, or ETCs.

The bottom line is that the matrix will dissolve wherever the Law of Consent is restored.

TLC

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Truman, a quick question for you. Do you think that there may be a certain element in the upper echelons of the controllers, who may be getting cold feet as they are attempting to seal the deal? That maybe if they were offered a safe way "out", they would take it and run?

Cheers,
Fred

[TrumanCash]

Hi, Fred. Are you referring to controllers on this planet, that is, the international banksters and their henchmen or are you referring to off-planet controllers?


Hi Truman, a quick question for you. Do you think that there may be a certain element in the upper echelons of the controllers, who may be getting cold feet as they are attempting to seal the deal? That maybe if they were offered a safe way "out", they would take it and run?

Cheers,
Fred

[Fred Steeves]

Hi, Fred. Are you referring to controllers on this planet, that is, the international banksters and their henchmen or are you referring to off-planet controllers?


Hi Truman, a quick question for you. Do you think that there may be a certain element in the upper echelons of the controllers, who may be getting cold feet as they are attempting to seal the deal? That maybe if they were offered a safe way "out", they would take it and run?

Cheers,
Fred

Hey Truman, good question, I usually try to be more clear than that. Chalk it up to a rushed post on a busy Saturday. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif I was thinking about the off world/interdimensional type, if not even the ones pulling THEIR strings.

Fred

[Chester]

The bottom line is that the matrix will dissolve wherever the Law of Consent is restored.

TLC

Fantastic post in its entirety but this last statement begs for an answer - at least from me... and that is, do you believe, Truman, that the matrix could dissolve and that we could still retain the opportunity to experience the realms of materiality, physicality?

I just don't want to be one to unnecessarily throw out the baby with the bath water as the expression goes. Thanks, Chester

[DeDukshyn]

... trim ...

I never agreed to be abducted, yet I was constantly admonished by New Agers that I had agreed to be an abductee. The New Agers were simply accepting the propaganda from "channeled entities". As I discovered, the reason that I became an abductee was that I was trying to stop the abductions by Grays over fifteen thousand years ago. So the Mantis beings abducted me and forced me into the artifically-created reincarnation system on this planet so that they can continue to violate the Law of Consent. In spite of this, I am still actively working to restore the Universal Law of Consent on and around this planet.

... trim ...

TLC

Hello Truman,

When you say "You" didn't agree, do you mean in this lifetime, by your ego, or are you actually referring to the "You" that is not created from any physical experience, aka your "higher self" or "spirit"? And if the latter is true, how did you come to this information?

I'm not trying to call you out on that at all, I just want clarification of those words from you perspective .... sorry, I don't know you that well and haven't read your books, so I'm starting with basics. I'll try to get up to speed so I can potentially have more meaningful conversation in the future with you. ;)

[Hervé]

[...]
... I have more recently traced the Mantis beings involvement with implantation vis-a-vis Earth back to at least 75 million years ago.

[...]
TLC

Since you mentioned that dinosaurs infested epoch and unless you already have run into it, this post might be of some interest to you:


Now, this is a very unexpected, weird one:

Who would have thunk that these beautiful, black and white chocolate marble curiosities spit out of an El Hierro submarine volcano would lend strong supportive evidence that this planet we live on got completely and utterly nuked into a billiard ball at around the time of the dinosaurs?

[...]

There you go... there aren't that many ways to generate "sedimentary" or "sedimented" uranium and thorium... however, wholesale nuclear explosions is certainly one of them since the best way to get rid of radio active particles is to "wash" them down....

... might even be a good reason to create a BIG FLOOD to wash out those radio-active particles... who knows?

Anyway, to view the whole post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=532714&viewfull=1#post532714

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for the clarification, Fred. My specialty is in the past lives area and I am not privy to what is going on presently behind the scenes "out there". I know that there are good guys trying to help but also a bunch of insane control freaks running amok "out there" (and down here), who are acting out there implanted programming. I think it's going to be quite a long while before things get cleaned up (if ever). IMO, it will only change if enough beings take responsibility to clean up the mess and part of that would be the implementation of the Law of Consent in this universe. Kind of a big job. But we could get started on this planet in the here and now.

TLC



Hi, Fred. Are you referring to controllers on this planet, that is, the international banksters and their henchmen or are you referring to off-planet controllers?


Hi Truman, a quick question for you. Do you think that there may be a certain element in the upper echelons of the controllers, who may be getting cold feet as they are attempting to seal the deal? That maybe if they were offered a safe way "out", they would take it and run?

Cheers,
Fred

Hey Truman, good question, I usually try to be more clear than that. Chalk it up to a rushed post on a busy Saturday. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif I was thinking about the off world/interdimensional type, if not even the ones pulling THEIR strings.

Fred

[TrumanCash]

Good question, Chester. I don't see any problem with experiencing the physical universe as a spiritual being. IMO, the problem is with the control freak implanters messing everything up by violating the Law of Consent. The universe could be quite an enjoyable place to live, create and enjoy what we create.

TLC




The bottom line is that the matrix will dissolve wherever the Law of Consent is restored.

TLC

Fantastic post in its entirety but this last statement begs for an answer - at least from me... and that is, do you believe, Truman, that the matrix could dissolve and that we could still retain the opportunity to experience the realms of materiality, physicality?

I just don't want to be one to unnecessarily throw out the baby with the bath water as the expression goes. Thanks, Chester

[TrumanCash]

Thank you for that very interesting tid bit, Amzer Zo. The dots just keep on connecting, don't they? Science meets spirituality.

Also, of interest is the "forbidden archeology" like the human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints and Klaus Dona's archeological artifacts of people riding on dinosaurs.

TLC



[...]
... I have more recently traced the Mantis beings involvement with implantation vis-a-vis Earth back to at least 75 million years ago.

[...]
TLC

Since you mentioned that dinosaurs infested epoch and unless you already have run into it, this post might be of some interest to you:


Now, this is a very unexpected, weird one:

Who would have thunk that these beautiful, black and white chocolate marble curiosities spit out of an El Hierro submarine volcano would lend strong supportive evidence that this planet we live on got completely and utterly nuked into a billiard ball at around the time of the dinosaurs?

[...]

There you go... there aren't that many ways to generate "sedimentary" or "sedimented" uranium and thorium... however, wholesale nuclear explosions is certainly one of them since the best way to get rid of radio active particles is to "wash" them down....

... might even be a good reason to create a BIG FLOOD to wash out those radio-active particles... who knows?

Anyway, to view the whole post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=532714&viewfull=1#post532714

[TrumanCash]

Hello, DeDukshyn. That information comes from my own extensive past life memory retrieval as an abductee over the past twelve thousand plus years vis-a-vis Earth plus my activities with an ET group called the Thelosians about three millennia before that. I cover that more extensively in THE EYE OF RA.

TLC



... trim ...

I never agreed to be abducted, yet I was constantly admonished by New Agers that I had agreed to be an abductee. The New Agers were simply accepting the propaganda from "channeled entities". As I discovered, the reason that I became an abductee was that I was trying to stop the abductions by Grays over fifteen thousand years ago. So the Mantis beings abducted me and forced me into the artifically-created reincarnation system on this planet so that they can continue to violate the Law of Consent. In spite of this, I am still actively working to restore the Universal Law of Consent on and around this planet.

... trim ...

TLC

Hello Truman,

When you say "You" didn't agree, do you mean in this lifetime, by your ego, or are you actually referring to the "You" that is not created from any physical experience, aka your "higher self" or "spirit"? And if the latter is true, how did you come to this information?

I'm not trying to call you out on that at all, I just want clarification of those words from you perspective .... sorry, I don't know you that well and haven't read your books, so I'm starting with basics. I'll try to get up to speed so I can potentially have more meaningful conversation in the future with you. ;)

[Hervé]

Indeed, very interesting dots which get connected :)


[...]

... I have more recently traced the Mantis beings involvement with implantation vis-a-vis Earth back to at least 75 million years ago. What they do not know is that they themselves have been implanted to be implanters. Like mindless robots they are simple carrying out their programming which was installed many millions of years ago.

[...]

TLC

Now, for this part above... that makes for quite a labyrinth with no exit because, without the tools you are using, I don't think anyone can make any heads nor tails of what's floating around as "honest truths."

For example, taking the thread by Simon Parkes, when one knows that this kind of double, triple, quadruple twists have been put in place, there are no guide posts left for proper discernment... that's quite a trap to get out of.

[ulli]

Indeed, very interesting dots which get connected :)


[...]

... I have more recently traced the Mantis beings involvement with implantation vis-a-vis Earth back to at least 75 million years ago. What they do not know is that they themselves have been implanted to be implanters. Like mindless robots they are simple carrying out their programming which was installed many millions of years ago.

[...]

TLC

Now, for this part above... that makes for quite a labyrinth with no exit because, without the tools you are using, I don't think anyone can make any heads nor tails of what's floating around as "honest truths."

For example, taking the thread by Simon Parkes, when one knows that this kind of double, triple, quadruple twists have been put in place, there are no guide posts left for proper discernment... that's quite a trap to get out of.

Traps like that are the easiest to get out of.. Just re-write the script...
Ask the question 'how relevant is any of this to the Here and Now?"
Visit the Here and Now thread....lol

[Hervé]

[...]

Traps like that are the easiest to get out of.. Just re-write the script...
Ask the question 'how relevant is any of this to the Here and Now?"
Visit the Here and Now thread....lol

Except that it's mostly the implanters that are in it as well as those communicating with them and being impressed to spread the words they are "benevolent."

Other than that, no qualms about the "here and now" being the safest place to operate from.

BTW, quite a wonderful job of yours to bring people to look around for their "here and now," quite clever of you!

[Chester]

I am convinced that until I can reconcile the likely ongoing practice of SRHandAS and SRA with everything else, I won't be satisfied and I won't ever be able to completely enjoy life on this planet. I am probably a pure idiot to try but I am going to continue to seek understanding regarding this practice and to find a realistic solutions approach if at the end of the day I perceive (judge, determine... whatever) that the practice should end.

The more I experience connectivity with life forms on earth who I perceive are victimized by these practices, the more I am motivated to seek solution.

[TrumanCash]

You bring up an interesting point, Amzer. A specific example is Jim Sparks who admits that he was tortured by Grays but promotes them as benevolent. One might compare the abducting Mantis, Grays, Reptilians to CIA operatives who abduct people, drug them, torture them and shock them into unconsciousness with high-voltage stun guns, thereby stealing their memories and awareness and programming them with post-hypnotic suggestions. There is nothing "benevolent" about that. In spite of what the CIA does, they are allowed to continue these activities and many of the sheeple of America think legalized torture is totally justified.

Many people are so enamored with ETs that they automatically think they are wise, spiritually-evolved beings. Unfortunately, these egocentric, arrogant, control-freak abducting ETs are anything but that. No decent human on this planet would abduct, torture, drug and mind-control another innocent person. If they did do that and were caught doing it, they would be thrown in prison and separated from civil society. If that criminal claimed that the victim "agreed" to it, he would be laughed out of court. In spite of that, many humans lacking discernment think it's perfectly okay for ETs to carry out the same criminal activities!

TLC



[...]

Except that it's mostly the implanters that are in it as well as those communicating with them and being impressed to spread the words they are "benevolent."

Other than that, no qualms about the "here and now" being the safest place to operate from.

BTW, quite a wonderful job of yours to bring people to look around for their "here and now," quite clever of you!

[Chester]

You bring up an interesting point, Amzer. A specific example is Jim Sparks who admits that he was tortured by Grays but promotes them as benevolent. One might compare the abducting Mantis, Grays, Reptilians to CIA operatives who abduct people, drug them, torture them and shock them into unconsciousness with high-voltage stun guns, thereby stealing their memories and awareness and programming them with post-hypnotic suggestions. There is nothing "benevolent" about that. In spite of what the CIA does, they are allowed to continue these activities and many of the sheeple of America think legalized torture is totally justified.

Many people are so enamored with ETs that they automatically think they are wise, spiritually-evolved beings. Unfortunately, these egocentric, arrogant, control-freak abducting ETs are anything but that. No decent human on this planet would abduct, torture, drug and mind-control another innocent person. If they did do that and were caught doing it, they would be thrown in prison and separated from civil society. If that criminal claimed that the victim "agreed" to it, he would be laughed out of court. In spite of that, many humans lacking discernment think it's perfectly okay for ETs to carry out the same criminal activities!

TLC



[...]

Except that it's mostly the implanters that are in it as well as those communicating with them and being impressed to spread the words they are "benevolent."

Other than that, no qualms about the "here and now" being the safest place to operate from.

BTW, quite a wonderful job of yours to bring people to look around for their "here and now," quite clever of you!

And along these lines, I get the same sense and feeling about this so called "Ascended Masters" stuff - on one hand, I have experienced learning (or recalling) wisdoms that had slipped my waking consciousness but on the other hand, that we have such a dynamic in the first place is completely unacceptable to me. Something smells about it all. Maybe this is stupid, silly, youthful ego on my part, but I recall watching two Jim Sparks interviews via Camelot and I remember coming away with a strange feeling that something was just not right. Then later, when I was pink clouding it, someone mentioned to me "Stockholm Syndrome" - well... maybe there's something to it?

I have more thoughts on that... Chester

[TrumanCash]

Yes, the "Ascended Masters" programming is just that--programming. It is essentially no different than the "believe-and-you'll-be-saved" of many religious philosophies. They usually back that up with "if-you-don't-believe-you'll-be-punished". These channeled ETs say they will come and save us from the destruction of the world, for example--if not to just pick us up in ships and take us off the planet before the great destruction, a false belief that if they just "love" or do some sort of mental exercises/meditations they will "ascend" to the next "dimension". Of course, they never actually define what a "dimension" is and no one seems to ever get there, do they?

One of the most common punishment implants is--"you'll go to hell if you don't believe". It's that ages old machination of reward/punishment programming to gain compliance and to lead people down the path to spiritual dead ends and wars between religions like the crusades.

Re Jim Sparks--he denies being a victim of the Stockholm Syndrome, but a person who has been tortured (punishment), may not realize or want to confront the fact that they have been programmed. Regarding torture, everyone will reach a point where they will snap and go along with anything if it ends the torture.

Also, one could also say that people who receive praise, special privileges, etc (conscious, social programming in the form of reward) can also do unconscionable acts as a reward for acceptance. The Nazis were a very good example of that. They actually believed they were doing a good thing.

However, I must reiterate what I stated in my books that this kind of conscious, social programming is reinforced by unconscious, implanted, psychological programming that is below people's awareness. This hidden programming can be installed in the present lifetime or millions of years ago. Religious programming goes way, way back!

TLC



You bring up an interesting point, Amzer. A specific example is Jim Sparks who admits that he was tortured by Grays but promotes them as benevolent. One might compare the abducting Mantis, Grays, Reptilians to CIA operatives who abduct people, drug them, torture them and shock them into unconsciousness with high-voltage stun guns, thereby stealing their memories and awareness and programming them with post-hypnotic suggestions. There is nothing "benevolent" about that. In spite of what the CIA does, they are allowed to continue these activities and many of the sheeple of America think legalized torture is totally justified.

Many people are so enamored with ETs that they automatically think they are wise, spiritually-evolved beings. Unfortunately, these egocentric, arrogant, control-freak abducting ETs are anything but that. No decent human on this planet would abduct, torture, drug and mind-control another innocent person. If they did do that and were caught doing it, they would be thrown in prison and separated from civil society. If that criminal claimed that the victim "agreed" to it, he would be laughed out of court. In spite of that, many humans lacking discernment think it's perfectly okay for ETs to carry out the same criminal activities!

TLC



[...]

Except that it's mostly the implanters that are in it as well as those communicating with them and being impressed to spread the words they are "benevolent."

Other than that, no qualms about the "here and now" being the safest place to operate from.

BTW, quite a wonderful job of yours to bring people to look around for their "here and now," quite clever of you!

And along these lines, I get the same sense and feeling about this so called "Ascended Masters" stuff - on one hand, I have experienced learning (or recalling) wisdoms that had slipped my waking consciousness but on the other hand, that we have such a dynamic in the first place is completely unacceptable to me. Something smells about it all. Maybe this is stupid, silly, youthful ego on my part, but I recall watching two Jim Sparks interviews via Camelot and I remember coming away with a strange feeling that something was just not right. Then later, when I was pink clouding it, someone mentioned to me "Stockholm Syndrome" - well... maybe there's something to it?

I have more thoughts on that... Chester

[lookbeyond]

Hi Trueman, may i ask what you think about visions, particularly in response to prayer (will expand if u need me to.)

Thanks and Kind Reguards, lookbeyond

[Freed Fox]

This is not to say that all Mantis beings, Grays, and Reptilians, etc, are bad. I'm only referring to the control freak ETs that abduct people.

TLC

Hi Truman, thank you for the time and energy you've been putting in to this thread and your other, larger contributions.

I think the above line that I have quoted cannot be stressed enough. I think that some people who delve into ufology are all-too-quick to assume that a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch, so to speak. It is an absurd notion to me that they are all malevolent control freaks.

It seems to me that there is an effort (whether conscious or unconscious) to portray E.T.s as generally evil in the media. It seems that Reptilians get this treatment even worse than the more recognized/mainstream 'Greys'. If you look at movies and television, 99 out of 100 representations of reptilian humanoids are villainous. Compounding this tendency with the racism that bizarrely still exists between humans today (!), I fear what this might mean if benevolent members of such races ever attempted to reach out to us, in an effort to overthrow the ruling minority which infringes upon our development so.

I am quite certain that I have never been abducted or implanted with the post-hypnotics to which you and certain others have alluded. Nor do I deny the fact that these could exist to compel some abductees to take on a certain sort of Stockholm Syndrome response toward their captors. I just feel a great deal of sympathy for the members of these races who are not the guilty ones, but are just as powerless as we seem to be in stopping these criminal actions. I would love to hear your thoughts on this...

All the best

[TrumanCash]

"Visions", from my experience and research, could have various sources. Spiritual beings do have an ability to know things and to have perceptions that go beyond what we recognize as physical universe phenomena. On the other hand ETs can manipulate people with "visions", holograms, mental illusions, telepathy, etc. Also, "visions" could also surface as an effect of past life implants. There can be many possibilities.

TLC


Hi Trueman, may i ask what you think about visions, particularly in response to prayer (will expand if u need me to.)

Thanks and Kind Reguards, lookbeyond

[TrumanCash]

At any level of the matrix one cannot evaluate simply on the basis of body type. However, in the case of Earth the manipulative ETs have gained control and most nice guys and gals have no desire to hang around here. For example, if you didn't like violence and aggressive behavior, you wouldn't drive clear across town to hang out at a biker bar on skid row. Unfortunately, Earth has a bad reputation and it attracts the not-so-nice ETs with their agendas so one would most likely have encounters with unpleasant or manipulative ETs. Also, there are ETs who do not abduct or rape but their agenda is to appear to be benevolent so as to disseminate false information; therefore, their data cannot be trusted. Discernment is the watchword.

TLC





This is not to say that all Mantis beings, Grays, and Reptilians, etc, are bad. I'm only referring to the control freak ETs that abduct people.

TLC

Hi Truman, thank you for the time and energy you've been putting in to this thread and your other, larger contributions.

I think the above line that I have quoted cannot be stressed enough. I think that some people who delve into ufology are all-too-quick to assume that a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch, so to speak. It is an absurd notion to me that they are all malevolent control freaks.

It seems to me that there is an effort (whether conscious or unconscious) to portray E.T.s as generally evil in the media. It seems that Reptilians get this treatment even worse than the more recognized/mainstream 'Greys'. If you look at movies and television, 99 out of 100 representations of reptilian humanoids are villainous. Compounding this tendency with the racism that bizarrely still exists between humans today (!), I fear what this might mean if benevolent members of such races ever attempted to reach out to us, in an effort to overthrow the ruling minority which infringes upon our development so.

I am quite certain that I have never been abducted or implanted with the post-hypnotics to which you and certain others have alluded. Nor do I deny the fact that these could exist to compel some abductees to take on a certain sort of Stockholm Syndrome response toward their captors. I just feel a great deal of sympathy for the members of these races who are not the guilty ones, but are just as powerless as we seem to be in stopping these criminal actions. I would love to hear your thoughts on this...

All the best

[BlueGem]

Discernment is certainly the word. There is way too much chanelled info, and way to many positive stories of abductions out there. It doesn't make sense that a benevolent race or group would have such a comprehensive program wthout telling us.

In light of some of the info here I have thought about defence. Aside from removing an implant that's already installed, is there much hope in trying to prevent a negative experience?

Great thread so far.

[TrumanCash]

Yes. Not only was I successful in getting them to remove the implant via friendly telepathic communication, they have not abducted me since.

Also, there are people who have been trained in this kind of telepathic communication who are disabling the "ET" side of the matrix behind the scenes. They don't talk about it much, but nevertheless it is going on. I know some of the people who have been doing this, but I was recently informed by the person who helped me that most of them are in Europe.

TLC


Discernment is certainly the word. There is way too much chanelled info, and way to many positive stories of abductions out there. It doesn't make sense that a benevolent race or group would have such a comprehensive program wthout telling us.

In light of some of the info here I have thought about defence. Aside from removing an implant that's already installed, is there much hope in trying to prevent a negative experience?

Great thread so far.

[Hervé]

[...]

... the post-hypnotics to which you and certain others have alluded. Nor do I deny the fact that these could exist to compel some abductees to take on a certain sort of Stockholm Syndrome response toward their captors.

[...]

Stockholm Syndrome... hmmm... interesting... because it might as well be called a long-ago implanted program being triggered and kicking in into action, courtesy of invaders from long ago who implanted whole populations of planets into submission. The end result being something in the mind of the implanted to the effect of something like: "I unconditionally love, respect, support and serve my benevolent, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent new masters."

Apparently, the whole of the public of the USA is being triggered "en masse" into these implanted programmings of long ago and into submitting to "authority."

The above is being derived from the following exchanges on other threads:





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"They are us from the future"


I have been chewing on that one for a very, very long while...


Beside the sci-fi versions that warp time on itself into pretzels, there is a literal way of looking at it that could be true as seen from the greys' wishful-thinking perspective.


And that comes from their own history as recounted below by Franz Erdl:








The sorrowful history of the Grays


Usually I write about my personal experiences only and avoid quoting stuff which I don't really know much about. In this case I make an exception because a book, which I read a long time ago is the missing link to our own experiences with the Grays. I forgot the name of the author, but I remember he was an US-Military remote viewer. He drew the following conclusions:



once, the Grays used to live on their own planet
they fell prey to an invasion, which they haven't been aware of
unsighted, another race (probably Reptilians) caused catastrophes on their planet
when survival on their planet was almost impossible, the intruders appeared like saviours
the condition for their "help" was the obedience of the Grays


Alex Collier goes into more details on how the greys were about to disappear as an ethnic group because the lizzies got onto their case (and planet) and turned the females of the grey's species infertile and therefore unable to reproduce and provide for "containers" for their souls. Then the lizzies stepped in and proposed the greys with their cloning technology in exchange for their subservience.


That was million if not billion years ago.


So, here we are, on earth right now... and the female of our species is being assaulted from all fronts, from forced sterilization to HPV and other vaccines as well as medications, cosmetics, GMOs, etc, to get her infertile and unable to procreate those "useless eaters" as part of "Agenda 21" AKA depopulation program.


Then, all these stories of cloning and genetic engineering, etc, to which he lizzies are touted as being the master wizards of, for their genetic manipulation feats... so that the clones they tweak have an inherent inability to display emotions to be expressed or even permit emotions to be processed.


And there we go... right where the greys were million or billion of years ago... so, indeed, they are us form the future because that's the route we are taking for us to be like them in our future IF we fall for the lizzies' scam. Hence the "wishful-thinking" part of the equation since it depends on the time-line we engage on.


This gives a better understanding as to why the suppression of teachings and knowledge about reincarnation got replaced by the "one-lifetime-shot-at eternal-salvation" inculcating that one has got only one chance to make it to paradise and OBEY or else it's straight to hell! But that, too, is too hopeful, so, lately, it's being replaced by the theory of evolution and the materialism dialectic of "You are just a body, bud, and nothing else. At the end of your life, that's that, just nothingness awaits you, so better make the most of it now!"


Don't believe me. Take a look a those materialism dialecticians' "bible," DSM-5 where any emotion expressed outside of normalized "status quo" is deemed a disorder and therefore due to some chemical imbalance as a result of some genetic flaw no one can do anything about since one is born with it and will die with it... "Here, take this pill, it'll make you feel better!" ... and we end up with people seeing nothing wrong with shooting whole school dead since it's all a video game anyway, or "maya" or "illusion," etc.



So... do we want to be "them" in our projected future?
Excellent post, Amzer! Yes, they sure seem to be pushing extremely hard now to implement the Agenda 21, drug-induced, 1984-style NWO, which to me does feel like the current Grays' way of life with infertility and emotionless, robotic behavior.

Thanks for your Franz Erdl quote. I found it very intriguing because a few months ago I recovered the memory of being a Gray and being abducted off my home planet. My life there was more like we live today, with families, etc, and not like the current Grays' monotonous life. I was abducted, not by Reptilians, but by another race of beings that had fat, bulbous-looking bodies--kinda reminded me of the Stay Puft Marshmallow guy (except I wasn't white). After being abducted in a Gray body, I had to "agree" to be implanted to work for these Stay Puft guys. This was a very, very long time ago. Later on, I actually incarnated in this bulbous-body race and attempted to carry out a Hitler-like crusade to annihilate all Grays (apparently acting out my previously implanted programming). The answer to my crusade was that my spaceship was blown up with me in it! LOL!

TLC






Thanks simon,:wave: that was interesting. Do mantids fall in love? Do they marry? Or they more pragmatic about mating and have multiple partners? I have the idea that the males gather a colony of women that belong to them much as the Mormons do. I know that the idea is that the Mormon church was founded by off world beings. It's interesting that you have only seen one female mantid.. it seems they are not included in business matters?Ok, I have not found one 4th Dimension being who has the notion of marriage, they understand the term "mate" in relation to feline species and reptilian species, - I rather think the Mantids can use cloning process to replicate, as indeed others can do. In the Draconis group there is more than one white queen, and this leads to trouble in relation to the succession - this culture was passed to earth and played out in the cultures that came before Ancient Egyptian Empire. It's quite correct to have sex with your half sister, in fact through her any children will inherit the crown. Females do not , in some 4th Dimension groups play a role in exterior politics, instead they direct and influence from within the royal court (Draconis) the Byzantine Empire - imperial court - was modeled on the Draconis. The Mantids don't go in for this sort of thing, they have a "council" who vote on direction, they are ordered by "the great One" this is a Mantid who gives direction to the others, he has reptilian body guards and is quite an influential being.

So, there you have it, the obsession with genetics, bloodlines, aristocrats and royals with their accompanying pomp and regalias along with their complete and utter disdain for the serfs and peones to be discarded as "useless eaters"... except that humanity is slowly waking up, as these implants are somehow wearing out, and kind of telling these dudes: "Hey, bud, all your sh!t... it ain't working... so why don't you just dump the whole thing and go free with us?"

[Chester]

Hi Truman - you blow my mind, dude (in a greatest of ways) - anyways I had to share this post link as you, specifically, have inspired me and catalyzed me to levels I never imagined possible to experience... to the point I actually see true hope for this planet (maybe I will be wrong... but I feel the issues projected upon Earth can all be resolved and quite rapidly) - Love to All, Chester

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53363-Let-s-look-at-synchronicity--again-&p=602491#post602491

[Daughter of Time]

Hello Truman,

I'm very glad you started your own thread. The information here is so valuable and I'm very appreciative and grateful to you.

I am also a "chosen one" even though I have probably not been abducted as many times as you have and I certainly do not recall all of my abductions in this lifetime and others. But I do recall some of the abductions and contacts. And as much as I hate to admit it, I did feel "very special" after one such abduction because I'd been programmed with "only the special ones are chosen". I was young and naive then and I believed this.

It has been dis-heartening when well meaning members of this forum have told me that my abductions were probably figments of my imagination or maladies of the mind. I know they were just trying to assuage my fears. But this was not helpful.

I have probably communicated this to you before on the Horus-Ra thread: you have validated my experiences. I thank you for that.

And I thank you for all this incredibly rich information. It gives me hope in that regaining autonomy is possible.

[TrumanCash]

Yes, there certainly is hope, Chester.

In my view, we have an unprecedented opportunity before us today. Due to the "alternative" communication channels, the mainstream media is being bypassed on a level that I previously did not expect. In fact, after I wrote my two books in the mid-90s, I just quit researching ETs and began homesteading. I thought at that time that the world was just not ready for the information that I had uncovered. There were a few who responded favorably to the information, but for the most part I felt like I was beating my head against the wall.

Although the masses are still being mesmerized by the boob tube, there are millions who are genuinely waking up now and sincerely working at understanding the matrix. And we are now able to penetrate deeper into the matrix than ever before, minus the mythology and superstitions that obfuscated past viewpoints.

Fortunately, it does not take a majority to create a significant change. On the lower level of the matrix, the NWO Illuminati/Bilderberg types are definitely feeling the pressure. In fact, I would say that many of them are getting pretty nervous or are in varying states of fear (though they don't usually show it). Somewhat recent statements by people like Zbigniew Brzezinski and Hillary Clinton are notable examples. Their house of cards is crumbling.

Never before have the elites' secret plans been so obvious and well-known. It is this vulnerability that now provides a rare opportunity to shift our path away from enslavement; that is, if people will just take responsibility and act to accelerate the exposing of their agendas. Truth is the Achilles' Heel of the matrix.

It appears their agendas are behind schedule and their most important occultic year "13" is nearly here so they are rushing for rapid implementation and that is acting like an alarm clock for many people to take action. According to Lindsey Williams who has connections to the "elite", they will be (and are) inciting fear as a control mechanism. The recent and obviously staged school shootings are examples of that. In fact, today school was cancelled in the area in which I live because of "unsubstantiated rumors" of a possible school shooting threat (i.e., fear mongering). I wouldn't be surprised if FBI or CIA operatives were behind the rumors. As a side note, it is also interesting that Bat Man movies have been used to reflect occultic significances vis-a-vis the agenda and activities of the Illuminati.

I live in an area of the western US where many people have, for the most part, been paying attention for the past two decades. They have been anticipating and adequately preparing for possible Illuminati scenarios. The way things seem to be playing out (vis-a-vis the lower matrix on the surface of the planet) makes me wonder if there actually was some substance to George Washington's alleged vision. Was he given a possible timeline by a time-traveling ET?

At the same time, it also appears that people are awakening spiritually, which is, of course, the path that must be taken for long term solutions and positive evolvement. There are those who have been temporarily side-tracked in their spiritual journeys by such persuasions as the Galactic Federation of Sweetness and Light, etc. It is so tempting to think that "Oh, wow, all we have to do is love and everything will be okay, because we will be saved by the good guys". And there is certainly nothing wrong with love, but true, positive evolvement involves a lot more than that--we need to wield discernment like a sword and take effective action. We really are the change we have been waiting for.

When you stop and think about it--Would any worthy, ethical ET group be interested in helping a bunch of humans who won't do anything for themselves and expect others to "save" them?

The structure of the matrix is beginning to lose its rigidity; it's beginning to quiver and shake. It's happening because so many people have been doing, not just being. We can visibly see many people doing exceptional work, as individuals and in small groups, to expose the matrix. However, much of the work has been occurring quietly behind the scenes and in ways that most cannot even imagine. And surprisingly it is not off-planet sources that have been steadfastly unraveling the fabric of the matrix.

We must all decide individually how we want to help. It is a creative thing. Totally unregulated. Which is as it should be. Keep smilin', don't go into fear and enjoy the ride!

Peace, Love & Joy,
TLC




Hi Truman - you blow my mind, dude (in a greatest of ways) - anyways I had to share this post link as you, specifically, have inspired me and catalyzed me to levels I never imagined possible to experience... to the point I actually see true hope for this planet (maybe I will be wrong... but I feel the issues projected upon Earth can all be resolved and quite rapidly) - Love to All, Chester

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53363-Let-s-look-at-synchronicity--again-&p=602491#post602491

[Freed Fox]

I totally agree, Truman; we need to resist all of the fear mongering that has been bombarding us now more than ever.

I think it will also be important, moving forward, to express that we are willing to forgive those who have been pulling the strings, the 'puppet masters' of this dark charade. I am not talking about being passive or even granting total amnesty, but I believe our fight will be easier if it does not become a witch hunt. I am anything but happy about what they are doing, and what they have done, but we must remain on higher ground. Forgiveness is difficult, but also divine.

[TrumanCash]

Thank you for your kind words, DOT. Yes, although some of us "chosen ones" have been to hell and back, it is nice to know that there can be a happy ending. For me, it is so. If I had not moved to an area where there were very trained individuals that could help me, I would not be writing about this most happy conclusion to that very disruptive and challenging chapter of my current lifetime. But it is not just about ending abductions, it is about disabling and dissolving the matrix at the upper levels. When one works at improving the upper levels of the matrix, we see a gradual improvement in the lower levels. It is all connected as we are all spiritual beings. I am now learning these advanced techniques from those who have helped me. It is about freeing beings from the matrix. It certainly takes time and resources, but is well worth the effort.

TLC


Hello Truman,

I'm very glad you started your own thread. The information here is so valuable and I'm very appreciative and grateful to you.

I am also a "chosen one" even though I have probably not been abducted as many times as you have and I certainly do not recall all of my abductions in this lifetime and others. But I do recall some of the abductions and contacts. And as much as I hate to admit it, I did feel "very special" after one such abduction because I'd been programmed with "only the special ones are chosen". I was young and naive then and I believed this.

It has been dis-heartening when well meaning members of this forum have told me that my abductions were probably figments of my imagination or maladies of the mind. I know they were just trying to assuage my fears. But this was not helpful.

I have probably communicated this to you before on the Horus-Ra thread: you have validated my experiences. I thank you for that.

And I thank you for all this incredibly rich information. It gives me hope in that regaining autonomy is possible.

[Twelvestrand]

Hi Truman, Thanks for your hard work and service to humanity. This is kind of related to your work... I have been following an individual named John Kettler...you may have heard of him, he recently came out with a post on his blog regarding the moon: "ETs/EDs Partially Declassify The Moon! Exclusive!" Anyhow, I asked the following question in the comments section of the post: Hi John,

First off thank you or taking the time to respond :) …What if at all can you tell me about the alleged processing plants that are controlled by an AI system that controls the artificial reincarnation cycle of earth occupied souls….souls are captured after death by being attracted to “the light” then captured, sent to processing ship/plant either near or on the moon… electrically shocked / amnesia installed/ various implants then forcibly sent back to earth to incarnate. I have found a many sources who talk about this 2 of them have regressed themselves to in between lives to discover this…RLH first mentioned this and dealt with it back in the 50s/ 60s before he was compromised/ infiltrated by the CIA in the late 70s /80s…thanks again :)

His response:

Chris,

THe “light” thing was a Grey trap, but it’s been wiped out. Now, those who are ready for the Universities of Evolution or its prep school and are ready to evolve go there. Those willing to evolve, but unable to attend either are upgraded between Earth incarnations. Those who can’t or won’t evolve are annihilated and returned to Source.

If I may ask...what are your thoughts on this? I know his info is controversial and unable to be confirmed most of the time.

PS thanks for the technical word doc my girl friend and I are starting the exercises soon. :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry almost forget....Link to blog post: http://johnkettler.com/etseds-partially-declassify-moon/

[lookbeyond]

Hi Truman, Thanks for your hard work and service to humanity. This is kind of related to your work... I have been following an individual named John Kettler...you may have heard of him, he recently came out with a post on his blog regarding the moon: "ETs/EDs Partially Declassify The Moon! Exclusive!" Anyhow, I asked the following question in the comments section of the post: Hi John,

First off thank you or taking the time to respond :) …What if at all can you tell me about the alleged processing plants that are controlled by an AI system that controls the artificial reincarnation cycle of earth occupied souls….souls are captured after death by being attracted to “the light” then captured, sent to processing ship/plant either near or on the moon… electrically shocked / amnesia installed/ various implants then forcibly sent back to earth to incarnate. I have found a many sources who talk about this 2 of them have regressed themselves to in between lives to discover this…RLH first mentioned this and dealt with it back in the 50s/ 60s before he was compromised/ infiltrated by the CIA in the late 70s /80s…thanks again :)

His response:

Chris,

THe “light” thing was a Grey trap, but it’s been wiped out. Now, those who are ready for the Universities of Evolution or its prep school and are ready to evolve go there. Those willing to evolve, but unable to attend either are upgraded between Earth incarnations. Those who can’t or won’t evolve are annihilated and returned to Source.

If I may ask...what are your thoughts on this? I know his info is controversial and unable to be confirmed most of the time.

PS thanks for the technical word doc my girl friend and I are starting the exercises soon. :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry almost forget....Link to blog post: http://johnkettler.com/etseds-partially-declassify-moon/


Hi Twelvestrand, hav you heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths- i came across it in another thread and tried to get some discussion re this topic as it really worried me so am glad another has brought this up also (similar soul harvest concept)

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[Hervé]

[...]

His response:

Chris,

THe “light” thing was a Grey trap, but it’s been wiped out. Now, those who are ready for the Universities of Evolution or its prep school and are ready to evolve go there. Those willing to evolve, but unable to attend either are upgraded between Earth incarnations. Those who can’t or won’t evolve are annihilated and returned to Source.

[...]

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry almost forget....Link to blog post: http://johnkettler.com/etseds-partially-declassify-moon/

That kind of wording bugs me to no end... because it sounds like more of the same... implanting

In the spirit of recovering memories... that ain't no evolution but a regaining of lost memories and abilities...

That's my take on it and I would love to hear Truman's take on it.

[Twelvestrand]

Hi Twelvestrand, hav you heard of the book War in Heaven by Kyle Griffiths- i came across it in another thread and tried to get some discussion re this topic as it really worried me so am glad another has brought this up also (similar soul harvest concept)

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

Hey Lookbeyond...i dont want to thread jack Truman here, but i haven't heard of that book however I will look into it...i do know that Truman has talked about escaping from this matrix....someone he was in contact with had done it but decided to come back to help out. So it def is possible....one has to be fully aware at death. Most souls are amnesic at death and are easily swayed by suggestion hence the traps that are all throughout the solar system. I myself would like to get the hell out of here and help as many people who are aware and wanting to do this as well.

[Daughter of Time]

[...]

His response:

Chris,

THe “light” thing was a Grey trap, but it’s been wiped out. Now, those who are ready for the Universities of Evolution or its prep school and are ready to evolve go there. Those willing to evolve, but unable to attend either are upgraded between Earth incarnations. Those who can’t or won’t evolve are annihilated and returned to Source.

[...]

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry almost forget....Link to blog post: http://johnkettler.com/etseds-partially-declassify-moon/

That kind of wording bugs me to no end... because it sounds like more of the same... implanting

In the spirit of recovering memories... that ain't no evolution but a regaining of lost memories and abiltities...

That's my take on it and I would love to hear Truman's take on it.

I also have problems with this wording and would also love to read what Truman has to say about this.

In particular, what does it mean to be annihilated? Does the soul cease to exist? But if it ceases to exist, how can it return to source? Or am I missing something?

[Chester]

[...]

His response:

Chris,

THe “light” thing was a Grey trap, but it’s been wiped out. Now, those who are ready for the Universities of Evolution or its prep school and are ready to evolve go there. Those willing to evolve, but unable to attend either are upgraded between Earth incarnations. Those who can’t or won’t evolve are annihilated and returned to Source.

[...]

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry almost forget....Link to blog post: http://johnkettler.com/etseds-partially-declassify-moon/

That kind of wording bugs me to no end... because it sounds like more of the same... implanting

In the spirit of recovering memories... that ain't no evolution but a regaining of lost memories and abiltities...

That's my take on it and I would love to hear Truman's take on it.

Hi Amzer Zo - my "gut" agrees with you 100%... I don't know why and I know "intuition" is only that but feels like just another well meaning but archontically compromised "new agy" BS trap. And hey, lookbeyond... his stuff may be right and also - its far better (IMO) to be on the side of love but I would highly recommend you use your best personal discernment possible - Both of you have a great 2013 - we are gonna kick unholy archontic ass! justone

[peace]

Hello,

Interesting read thusfar, thanks much!

You may have answered this elsewhere, and apologies if so and I could be missing some details here, but if you don't mind;

how was your implant extracted? do you still have it? if you don't where is it? and on and on, in that line of thinking. I'd love to see a picture, analysis, etc.

If I'm overstepping my bounds by asking, ignore me. I tend to stick to one thing before I can move on. and my silly brain can't move on until I know this.

btw. i'll punch a reptilian, grey or other anything if i ever see one. will kinda just be knee jerk reaction. i have a hard time being afraid of the dark.

[lunaflare]

Thank you for your thread, Truman
I have not read your works as yet, but The Truman Show is a favourite; a really finely crafted movie!
Firstly, I am interested in retrieving personal abduction (perhaps they are willing on a subconscious level?) experiences.
Yes, all in a quest to understand and thus loosen the strangle-hold of limiting matrix-think.
You stated, perhaps rhetorically...
After all, shouldn't humans be on the side of humans?
I say this may be idealistic-hive mind reality. Should there be "sides" within a race or planet? As in the trillions of sentient beings that populate multi-verses, there surely are differences within various species- varying agendas, desires and intents. Unique personas within varying species or races. or perhaps not?
I certainly do not "trust" the human race. Is this not a programme too? Us against Them?
I feel we are each a blend of many ET related beings. Different combinations. Different capacities. On this dimension anyway.
I do have one question (impetus for this post)
Given we are rooted in the Matrix, why have we been programmed to require sleep?
What is the purpose?

Thank you again for taking the time with this thread

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for the John Kettler info, Twelvestrand. I haven't read his information but on the surface the information you mentioned does not match with past life and in-between life research at all. I don't know where Kettler gets his information but it does not ring true at all. I have compared my past experiences and have talked with many other people who have done very extensive past life and in-between lives work and there is no evidence to support the claims mentioned.

For one, the "light thing" is not a Grey trap (from my experience). I have only encountered Mantis beings in the implanting facilities between lives.

Although the awareness and condition of a spiritual being can be altered or "annihilated", if you will, a spiritual being is eternal in nature. We, as spiritual beings, are the "Source". We are essentially gods, though we have temporarily "lost" our abilities as gods. Although it is a concept that is usually difficult to grasp, we, as spiritual beings, have created this physical universe. I actually remember doing so and have talked with many others who have also recovered these memories of long ago. By that I mean creating stars, planets, life forms, etc. The bottom line is that we are responsible for the condition we are in. The upside to this is that we can take responsibility to reverse the decline of awareness through past life therapy, etc. Theoretically, we could eventually return to our native state as gods. As one regains one's awareness, one also learns how one got into this mess so, theoretically, one can learn from one's mistakes and not regress to a lowered state of awareness and abilities.

And the truth shall set us free....
TLC


Hi Truman, Thanks for your hard work and service to humanity. This is kind of related to your work... I have been following an individual named John Kettler...you may have heard of him, he recently came out with a post on his blog regarding the moon: "ETs/EDs Partially Declassify The Moon! Exclusive!" Anyhow, I asked the following question in the comments section of the post: Hi John,

First off thank you or taking the time to respond :) …What if at all can you tell me about the alleged processing plants that are controlled by an AI system that controls the artificial reincarnation cycle of earth occupied souls….souls are captured after death by being attracted to “the light” then captured, sent to processing ship/plant either near or on the moon… electrically shocked / amnesia installed/ various implants then forcibly sent back to earth to incarnate. I have found a many sources who talk about this 2 of them have regressed themselves to in between lives to discover this…RLH first mentioned this and dealt with it back in the 50s/ 60s before he was compromised/ infiltrated by the CIA in the late 70s /80s…thanks again :)

His response:

Chris,

THe “light” thing was a Grey trap, but it’s been wiped out. Now, those who are ready for the Universities of Evolution or its prep school and are ready to evolve go there. Those willing to evolve, but unable to attend either are upgraded between Earth incarnations. Those who can’t or won’t evolve are annihilated and returned to Source.

If I may ask...what are your thoughts on this? I know his info is controversial and unable to be confirmed most of the time.

PS thanks for the technical word doc my girl friend and I are starting the exercises soon. :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry almost forget....Link to blog post: http://johnkettler.com/etseds-partially-declassify-moon/

[TrumanCash]

Yes, polarization (e.g., us-against-them thinking, etc.) has been implanted for a very long time.

As far as sleep goes, it is not something that I have specifically studied, but I can tell that when one is in-between incarnations, one does not have to sleep at all. From my experience it is only a physical body phenomenon. However, one's sleep can be affected by the condition oneself is in as a spiritual being while being incarnated.

TLC


Thank you for your thread, Truman
I have not read your works as yet, but The Truman Show is a favourite; a really finely crafted movie!
Firstly, I am interested in retrieving personal abduction (perhaps they are willing on a subconscious level?) experiences.
Yes, all in a quest to understand and thus loosen the strangle-hold of limiting matrix-think.
You stated, perhaps rhetorically...
After all, shouldn't humans be on the side of humans?
I say this may be idealistic-hive mind reality. Should there be "sides" within a race or planet? As in the trillions of sentient beings that populate multi-verses, there surely are differences within various species- varying agendas, desires and intents. Unique personas within varying species or races. or perhaps not?
I certainly do not "trust" the human race. Is this not a programme too? Us against Them?
I feel we are each a blend of many ET related beings. Different combinations. Different capacities. On this dimension anyway.
I do have one question (impetus for this post)
Given we are rooted in the Matrix, why have we been programmed to require sleep?
What is the purpose?

Thank you again for taking the time with this thread

[Camilo]

I find this whole thing intriguing and a good place to start for those beginning to wake up.

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for your post, Camilo. I would add that beginners should read THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET first unless they are already grounded in the abduction phenomenon. THE EYE OF RA is advanced material and, for some, might be too far out "on the fringe" to be taken seriously.


I find this whole thing intriguing and a good place to start for those beginning to wake up.

[TrumanCash]

For those who haven't heard this song yet, Jackovesk just posted a song about Phil Schneider here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54234-The-Phil-Schneider-Song...&p=614661&viewfull=1#post614661

The song brought tears to my eyes because I knew Phil personally. He is a true hero!

I first met him in Post Falls, Idaho when he spoke with Al Bielek about eighteen years ago. This was before I had had my own underground base experiences. I had just written my first book, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET, and I showed him the underground base drawings by one of the abductees I worked with. During this lecture he opened his shirt to reveal the huge scar he still had from the tall Gray's weapon, which is shown in this music video.

The third time I saw him was months later in a small room in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho at a private gathering of about six people. Phil opened up his locked metal case and allowed us to handle the amazing artifacts that he had including an implant that he had taken out of his leg. Phil was also an abductee. He said he had been in a shoot out with an FBI agent and he killed the agent but took a bullet in his left shoulder. He took off his shirt again to reveal not only the original blast scar but a new round scar from the bullet that was not there before! I became a believer then. Later I was to have my own experiences in a deep underground base where I saw military personnel working with tall and short Grays (details in THE EYE OF RA).

Phil was a man of unshakable integrity. He was telling us the truth.

The last time I saw Phil Schneider was not in person but on TV. It was a television news show wherein he was exposing the government assassination of microbiologists. Soon thereafter he experienced his fourteenth and, unfortunately, final assassination attempt. Imagine that!--Thirteen assassination attempts did not stop him from exposing the truth!

I should also mention that I am a songwriter and I am very impressed with quality of songwriting with material that does not lend itself well to be represented with the art of music. Lyrics, music and production are excellent!

Truman L. Cash

[Daughter of Time]

Thanks for your post, Camilo. I would add that beginners should read THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET first unless they are already grounded in the abduction phenomenon. THE EYE OF RA is advanced material and, for some, might be too far out "on the fringe" to be taken seriously.


I find this whole thing intriguing and a good place to start for those beginning to wake up.

For the record, I found THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET very important and informative material, but THE EYE OF RA spoke to me on deeper levels than other related materials by other writers have. There is nothing "far out" in THE EYE OF RA for me, for it related to my own experiences and far memories of Egypt and of things that followed right up to now.

I do agree, of course, that a beginner should read THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET first.

[Twelvestrand]

Thanks for the reply Mr. Cash. Another question that just came to mind...since you have extensive experience and memory recovery with Ancient Egypt. Ive recently been looking into the apparent connection between the Nile, Ancient Egypt and the Orion Nebula. The nebula can be found in backgrounds of ancient paintings such as the creation of Adam by Michelangelo....Danny Wilten seems to have researched this quite a bit. He has a youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/5T4RSCREAM233) with videos that he put together demonstrating the relationship between the Orion Nebula, the Nile and Ancient Egypt as it seems to be very important in religious matters. Im wondering if you could comment on any of this? Thanks again.

[Chester]

Hi Truman - is the Cash part a tribute to "the Man in Black?" No, not Jack... but Johnny.

I appreciate all your contributions and that you are taking the time to share with us on this forum.

Do you at all review the posts on Houman's Horus-Ra thread? If so, could you, please, comment on Dr. Malanga's research. Specifically the mapping of the Kosmos as he has come up with including the various actors he has penciled in.

I can see his view as an overlay to yours where there is no apparent conflict, only different levels of experience. In other words, his view could be seen as complimentary to your experiences.

What caught my attention the most was when I came upon the "shadow" beings in that the theory is that they are 2 dimensional beings. I found this fascinating when I began to follow my thought flows when stimulated by this consideration. The idea also suggested that 4D and up "beings" are part of a greater dynamic where we, in this 3rd dimension physical realm experience are simply the battleground between this lower dimensional forces and the upper dimensional forces.

In reflecting on that further, I realized that if this is true, then 3D is where the action is... and I got this strange feeling that knowing me, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else!

Also - I received a PM yesterday from someone who appears to have taken the "gnostic position" that the material realms altogether are a creation of evil (ala - the mistake of Sofia and then the creation of these realms by the Demiurge) and suggests that unless a spirit being is able to take responsibility for themselves in such a way they have regained their sovereignty and then chooses never to return to the material realms, they are lost in the "matrix." It is very similar to the Cathar view where the only relief is that one chooses never to return (if one can).

Perhaps this person who PM'd me is right - but I can assure you I will die a thousand soul deaths before I accept that any realm of experience is pure evil. For one, experience requires the component of form and form cannot exist without contrast and thus to say any one experience is simply pure evil yet to imply there may be another form of experience that is void of evil leaves me with the conclusion that the only pure "good" experience possible would be no experience at all.

This situation on Earth at this time is not a battle of "material realms" versus so called "spiritual realms" as all of these are still experiences within form.

The battle appears to be waged first within the mind and from the minds of incarnate spirit beings comes all the fluff... all the unnecessary details, all the distraction. I have found that by reclaiming my mind (which I have done to a reasonable extent) has allowed me to remove myself from the effects of emotional extremes. This, in turn, gives me a sense I have gained (or regained... I really don't know) sovereignty. Sovereignty over what? I also really don't know... but I have this strange sense of peace these days - a strange sense that everything really can be alright - and a sense that I still have a good few dozen years left to do my part in ensuring we turn the tables on this whole mess.

I notice how you write clearly and appear to have no fear. To me, you seem to have reached this same place I believe I am just now reaching. Thanks for being such an inspiration, Truman... Chester.

[Spiral]

Hello, I have been reading "The Programming of a Planet" & have just read this thread, and have some questions / things to add.

Starseeds ; is there anything to this, re lots of ET souls incarnating here to try & "love & light" the place into sanity ?

And what about the questionnaires relating to this ? With questions like "have you got narrow feet", "have you got ginger hair in the family" etc I know it seems trivial, but a lot of people have bought into this stuff.


Reincarnation & abductees,(I am an abductee) this is a bit personal, & I'll try to keep it brief, I can expand on details if anyone wants.

When I was a boy I remembered three past lives, during strange & repeating dreams,( I couldn't read & wasn't allowed to watch TV on a night so it didn't come from there.)

In the first one I was the son of a very important noble & knight, and re-lived over & over "my" death, being shot in the neck by a poacher with a crossbow, and other tidbits of this life, only somethings like the "castle" seemed strange as it was little more than a stout tower.

About 13 years ago I ended up in a small museum in a town called Malton (in the north of England), and lo & behold there is the whole story, (just as I had told my wife many times) about the son of Walter de Espic,( William the conquerers right hand man ) who lived in a fortified tower just like I had seen as a boy.


In the second one I was a Jewish copper smith selling pot & pans in York in 1190 when all hell breaks loose, I run into a basement with a woman & baby, soldiers dressed like crusaders come in, they grab the baby & stab it with a sword, then the woman, & then I am run through the abdomen with a spear as I have my back to a pillar.

I awoke so shocked that I got up to inspect my belly, and right there, an inch above & to the left of my belly button was a white scar shaped like a triangle about two inches across, this was still visible 10-12 years ago, my wife could clearly see it. (I'm 46 now)

In the third I am a pilot in the RAF in WW2, flying Lancasters (heavy bombers) I have all sorts of bits & pieces for this one, but in this I died along with all the crew when we gained altitude near the Hook of Holland to get our bearings ( we had been flying low, ie 50 feet) when suddenly there is an explosion & the front of the aircraft & my limbs are gone, there is just the still black of the night & the smell of hydrolic fluid & blood, before it fades to black.

What am I getting at ?

Well it occurred to me that there is a bit of a theme going on here, pro "nobles", pro "jews", pro military & flying & bombing....

Could these "previous lives" just be "implants" ????

They have done much to colour my perceptions of the world & defined my sense of self (limited though it is)

[Chester]

Interesting, Spiral - I just discovered last summer that within my family line was an "officer" of sorts that came over with William the Conqueror -

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and as far as your questions - I question everything now along those lines. Having been targeted since at least 6 years old by a Horus-Ra entity (or group of entities) I trust none of those things.

I keep it simple now and when you think about it, what good would "creation" be for most folks if it were some complicated system or if it took some massive sets of "figuring all these things out?"

Clearly we are under the influence of an energetic overlay.

I escaped and I am simply spending all my time now assisting others to do the same.

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for your input on this, 12. I briefly cover the apparent layout of the pyramids, Nile, etc in THE EYE OF RA, mostly based upon others' research. I don't put a lot of emphasis on this as it is speculative--but interesting, of course--and it does not lead to a solution to the matrix. Currently, I have been peeling off the layers of past implants and increasing my understanding of the underlying implants that have been installed to create the matrix specific to this area of the universe as well as the universe as a whole.

TLC


Thanks for the reply Mr. Cash. Another question that just came to mind...since you have extensive experience and memory recovery with Ancient Egypt. Ive recently been looking into the apparent connection between the Nile, Ancient Egypt and the Orion Nebula. The nebula can be found in backgrounds of ancient paintings such as the creation of Adam by Michelangelo....Danny Wilten seems to have researched this quite a bit. He has a youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/5T4RSCREAM233) with videos that he put together demonstrating the relationship between the Orion Nebula, the Nile and Ancient Egypt as it seems to be very important in religious matters. Im wondering if you could comment on any of this? Thanks again.

[TrumanCash]

Hi, Chester. The Cash part of my pen name refers to the literal use of cash as the obvious answer and positive solution to thwart the international banksters' plans to enslave us with a cashless, digital, global "beast" currency system.

I haven't followed Houman's thread for awhile as I have been delving much deeper into the source of the matrix as it exists in this universe and, specifically, this sector of the universe. The source of the insanity on this planet and of the Mantis beings, Grays, Reptilians, Serpent Staff Pleiadians, et al, that are manipulating Earth humans are the implants that have been installed in the past. The satanic rituals, pedophilia, etc that Houman has been focusing on are a direct result of these specific implants. I have been focusing my time and attention on disabling these implants as these implants are the Achilles' heel of the matrix. It gets right to the source of the problem.

I therefore have not delved at length into Malanga's and others' methods because nothing will permanently change without disabling the implants. Of course, I am just one being and although there are numerous other people engaged in this process, we need many more people doing this in order to break free of the matrix and create something more positive.

It appears that the ETCs and the PTB on this panet are turning up the heat this year. I have expected this would happen because this is 2013 and they put a lot of significance on the number 13. I get the feeling we are about to enter a "showdown at OK corral" this year. It is and will be a battle for control of planet Earth in my opinion. The battle manifests itself on various levels, both physical and spiritual. However, it should be remembered that they are just acting out their implanting--programming from ages long past.

Hitler, for example, was not successful in controlling so many people because he was charismatic. He was using triggers from these implants to cause people to act out the implants, thereby obtaining uniform obedience. One of the first things that Hitler did was abolish the Weimar republic's "Bill of Rights" that was modeled after the American Bill of Rights. Therefore, on the physical level we can all help thwart our enslavement by not relinquishing any part of the Bill of Rights, which is simply a reflection of our natural rights. It appears that "Obamacare" and the recent fraudulent and unconstitutional attacks on the 2nd Amendment are the line in the sand for many Americans.

What most people don't realize is that if the global elite succeed in usurping our natural rights by forcing their cashless system and disarming us, the eventual outcome will be the usurpation of spiritual rights. That is, the lower, physical part of the matrix can adversely affect the upper, spiritual aspect of the matrix. This is due to the dynamics of us as the spiritual beings who created this physical universe and the implants and considerations that have formed the matrix on the physical level.

Likewise, the spiritual affects the physical part of the matrix. Therefore, it is important not to manifest fear during these exciting, interesting and most engaging times. I think that we will get through this rough period even if things look pretty dark for a while. As long as people continue to disable the implants, life will gradually improve and ultimately the matrix itself will be dissolved. One can look at these implants as being a virus on a hard drive. By detecting and viewing the viruses, they can be disabled and will no longer cause beings to react in an irrational manner.

I am writing this because it is my viewpoint that the matrix must be addressed from both the physical and spiritual aspects. Also, we can sit around and armchair philosophize ad nauseum and get nowhere. It therefore requires us to actually do something, to take positive action in order to dismantle the matrix, end war and heal this planet.

TLC




Hi Truman - is the Cash part a tribute to "the Man in Black?" No, not Jack... but Johnny.

I appreciate all your contributions and that you are taking the time to share with us on this forum.

Do you at all review the posts on Houman's Horus-Ra thread? If so, could you, please, comment on Dr. Malanga's research. Specifically the mapping of the Kosmos as he has come up with including the various actors he has penciled in.

I can see his view as an overlay to yours where there is no apparent conflict, only different levels of experience. In other words, his view could be seen as complimentary to your experiences.

What caught my attention the most was when I came upon the "shadow" beings in that the theory is that they are 2 dimensional beings. I found this fascinating when I began to follow my thought flows when stimulated by this consideration. The idea also suggested that 4D and up "beings" are part of a greater dynamic where we, in this 3rd dimension physical realm experience are simply the battleground between this lower dimensional forces and the upper dimensional forces.

In reflecting on that further, I realized that if this is true, then 3D is where the action is... and I got this strange feeling that knowing me, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else!

Also - I received a PM yesterday from someone who appears to have taken the "gnostic position" that the material realms altogether are a creation of evil (ala - the mistake of Sofia and then the creation of these realms by the Demiurge) and suggests that unless a spirit being is able to take responsibility for themselves in such a way they have regained their sovereignty and then chooses never to return to the material realms, they are lost in the "matrix." It is very similar to the Cathar view where the only relief is that one chooses never to return (if one can).

Perhaps this person who PM'd me is right - but I can assure you I will die a thousand soul deaths before I accept that any realm of experience is pure evil. For one, experience requires the component of form and form cannot exist without contrast and thus to say any one experience is simply pure evil yet to imply there may be another form of experience that is void of evil leaves me with the conclusion that the only pure "good" experience possible would be no experience at all.

This situation on Earth at this time is not a battle of "material realms" versus so called "spiritual realms" as all of these are still experiences within form.

The battle appears to be waged first within the mind and from the minds of incarnate spirit beings comes all the fluff... all the unnecessary details, all the distraction. I have found that by reclaiming my mind (which I have done to a reasonable extent) has allowed me to remove myself from the effects of emotional extremes. This, in turn, gives me a sense I have gained (or regained... I really don't know) sovereignty. Sovereignty over what? I also really don't know... but I have this strange sense of peace these days - a strange sense that everything really can be alright - and a sense that I still have a good few dozen years left to do my part in ensuring we turn the tables on this whole mess.

I notice how you write clearly and appear to have no fear. To me, you seem to have reached this same place I believe I am just now reaching. Thanks for being such an inspiration, Truman... Chester.

[TrumanCash]

Thank you very much for sharing your experiences, Spiral. Very interesting. I cannot comment on what your experiences mean as that is a personal thing that only you can evaluate.

Regarding starseeds--beings come to this planet for many reasons and they are, of course, individual. There does appear to be the phenomenon of spiritual beings coming to this planet with the purpose of helping. This planet does have a rather sordid history and unsavory reputation so it also attracts people who are looking for a place to hide out. Some people just got here and some have been here for a very long time. With past life therapy one can find out what their own personal odyssey is.

TLC


Hello, I have been reading "The Programming of a Planet" & have just read this thread, and have some questions / things to add.

Starseeds ; is there anything to this, re lots of ET souls incarnating here to try & "love & light" the place into sanity ?

And what about the questionnaires relating to this ? With questions like "have you got narrow feet", "have you got ginger hair in the family" etc I know it seems trivial, but a lot of people have bought into this stuff.


Reincarnation & abductees,(I am an abductee) this is a bit personal, & I'll try to keep it brief, I can expand on details if anyone wants.

When I was a boy I remembered three past lives, during strange & repeating dreams,( I couldn't read & wasn't allowed to watch TV on a night so it didn't come from there.)

In the first one I was the son of a very important noble & knight, and re-lived over & over "my" death, being shot in the neck by a poacher with a crossbow, and other tidbits of this life, only somethings like the "castle" seemed strange as it was little more than a stout tower.

About 13 years ago I ended up in a small museum in a town called Malton (in the north of England), and lo & behold there is the whole story, (just as I had told my wife many times) about the son of Walter de Espic,( William the conquerers right hand man ) who lived in a fortified tower just like I had seen as a boy.


In the second one I was a Jewish copper smith selling pot & pans in York in 1190 when all hell breaks loose, I run into a basement with a woman & baby, soldiers dressed like crusaders come in, they grab the baby & stab it with a sword, then the woman, & then I am run through the abdomen with a spear as I have my back to a pillar.

I awoke so shocked that I got up to inspect my belly, and right there, an inch above & to the left of my belly button was a white scar shaped like a triangle about two inches across, this was still visible 10-12 years ago, my wife could clearly see it. (I'm 46 now)

In the third I am a pilot in the RAF in WW2, flying Lancasters (heavy bombers) I have all sorts of bits & pieces for this one, but in this I died along with all the crew when we gained altitude near the Hook of Holland to get our bearings ( we had been flying low, ie 50 feet) when suddenly there is an explosion & the front of the aircraft & my limbs are gone, there is just the still black of the night & the smell of hydrolic fluid & blood, before it fades to black.

What am I getting at ?

Well it occurred to me that there is a bit of a theme going on here, pro "nobles", pro "jews", pro military & flying & bombing....

Could these "previous lives" just be "implants" ????

They have done much to colour my perceptions of the world & defined my sense of self (limited though it is)

[Hervé]

[...]

Do you at all review the posts on Houman's Horus-Ra thread? If so, could you, please, comment on Dr. Malanga's research. Specifically the mapping of the Kosmos as he has come up with including the various actors he has penciled in.


... Chester.

Hello Chester,

... seems you need to "re"-read a few posts in that thread since, evidently, their portend escaped you:


Thanks 9eagle9,

For a moment I thought I had written some Carmodese cryptic ciphers no one was able to disentangle... :)

The morale of that post is really simple: there is a part of oneself every one knows as "I" and doing the observation of everything else that's going on while remaining unaffected by what's happening. That's the one that creates/observes all the other participants, including the "soul" in the SIMBAD visualization technique... and who is left unaddressed by said technique.

On the other hand, in the Steve Richards' example, beside the outside empowerment factor, what is shown is that these "whatever-they-are" were GONE FOR GOOD! To the point that, that "I" wanted them back! Whereas the SIMBAD technique seems to create another phantasmagoria on top of the pre-existing ones.

Again, to draw from the long and immemorial Gypsy oral tradition:



“The figure 3 and its geometrical transcription – the triangle -- means “Life.” Numerous jewelries are constructed around that number. According to Tzigans, Man as a whole is constituted of a body which rots, a spirit which persists and an immaterial body as an interface between these two.”
(Pierre Derlon; Traditions Occultes des Gitans)


With that observed structural make up of Man, "I" which observes everything, and can recover memories from the other two, is "spirit." The interface is what interferes/intervenes between "body" and "spirit" and corresponds to "soul" or "mind" which is made up of all these circuits/programs/entities/etc. and which is what MKultra/ETs/hypnotists of all sorts have a field day with.

Not very complicated and parts and parcels of what is really going on: confusing the issue(s) for eons.


My, my, my... how to get to the bottom, basic, fundamental line of what's ailing this planet and her inhabitants?

Let me borrow a few paragraphs from Laura Knight-Jadczyk's The Cassiopaean Experiment:


What amazes us is the sudden turn from the rational beginning to the irrational illusion. Irrationality and illusion are revealed by the intolerance and cruelty with which they are expressed. We observe that human thought systems show tolerance as long as they adhere to reality. The more the thought process is removed from reality, the more intolerance and cruelty are needed to guarantee its continued existence. [Ether, God and Devil, Wilhelm Reich]


Castaneda's "Predator":
"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. [...] You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico. [...] They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops. Therefore, their food is always available to them.' [...]

"'I want to appeal to your analytical mind, ' don Juan said. 'Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.' [...]

"In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. [...]

"Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them." [Castaneda, The Active Side of Infinity, 1998, pp. 213-220]


How's that possible?

MKultra and satanic types of mind control give an idea of how it can be done... even how an individual can inherit more than one "mind" when exhibiting different personalities which are "unaware" of each other's existence within a singular body. Hence , for the "social personality facade," all these other personalities and behaviours are part of its "unconscious" and is totally unaware of their existence... only aware of "missing time" when other personalities take over when triggered into manifestation/existence.

Hypnotism and post-hypnotic commands give us a clue as to irrational behaviours occurring on cues (which are akin to alternate personalities) and which 9eagle9 keeps pointing out on this forum.

Truman Cash's books "The Programming of a Planet" and "Eye of Ra" document his research on how such a mind control programming occurs planet-wide and has been occurring for times immemorial.

Steve Richards (http://www.holographickinetics.net/default.html) gives the overall law of LORE that explains the "feeding loop" that keeps growing once an entity/thought form has been given "birth," a simple matter of "survival" in the same fashion as for golems or tulpas [edit to add: eggregores].

Post # 1357 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) delineates how the same, identical "mind" has been hypnotically implanted into the population of an entire sector of this galaxy -- 250 billion souls -- that's the R6 "mind." Complete with all sorts of religions, gods and devils; archons included... so that whatever portion of the population which falls under a particular aspect or "personality" of that R6 "mind" becomes a matter of statistics.

As 9eagle9 keeps emphasizing, such a mind can only "replicate" and cannot create on its own. However, the creative abilities of the implanted billions of souls have been bound into "creating" the replications... on a "protest." The triggering of the content of that "mind" into manifestation is currently being heavily pushed all around in the MSM and alt. media (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48358-2012-Light-Flashes-Lucifer-and-symbols....&p=535408&viewfull=1#post535408) <--) ["...they only respond to R6 symbols"].

In the vein of the latter, I wish that the people who are having these "visions" of tsunamis, devastating earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc... could have enough "presence d'Esprit" to dig beyond that vision and find out who are the producers, directors, art directors, etc... of the "productions" since it seems many of the militaries are following up on that "vision" and retiring in the Ozarks, etc... indicating that the military hierarchy is thoroughly "impressed" with those specific "outcomes."

I wish that some clarity as to what these "visions" actually are could be ascertained because reading Bill's posting (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36083-Mitchell-Coombes-Does-he-really-have-access-to-insider-info&p=534533&viewfull=1#post534533) of Andamans just moving to higher grounds prior to the 2004 "Boxing Day" tsunami indicates that they just got on moving based on an "actuality" as compared to the "virtuality" of a "vision" that's being kept "alive" and perpetuated over and over.

As a conclusion, these "ETs" claiming "it is all our fault for being in such a mess" are not actually lying... they are just omitting that they gave us their concocted "mind' which started the whole mess.

With the above, there wasn't much more I could contribute to that thread except keep "cataloging" expressions of that "predator's" mind or that "their" mind as 9eagle9 puts it.

What I omitted in the above posts is that "Space Opera" is also part of that "predator/their/reactive" mind and accounts for all these "GFL" stories and their likes.

[TrumanCash]

Controlling people with implant symbols:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/files/2011/04/hitler-crowd.jpg

Manly P. Hall, 33rd degree Freemason and one of the most influential occultists of the last century, wrote this of
symbols, “They are centers of a mighty force, figures pregnant with an awful power…” (Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, p. 356)

http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/files/2011/04/hitler-nazi-march.jpg

http://www.germaniainternational.com/images2/Flags/Long_NS_Flag/MVC-011S_lg.jpg

[Chester]

This situation on Earth at this time is not a battle of "material realms" versus so called "spiritual realms" as all of these are still experiences within form.

I agree with everything you have written in your post and greatly appreciate you have directly responded to my inquiries.

I could comment on each and every sentence of your post but all my comments would simply be embellishing what you have written and would dilute rather than bolster.

Though I am sort of new at all this, what I have found that works best at disabling implants is simply sending back through only the truth. When an implant “speaks” to me, I first assure it that I am aware that the “voice” I hear is likely a voice emanating solely from an implant (and the entity or entities behind it - be they "real" or simply artificial). I then evaluate what “the voice” suggests to me and then I speak back to the “voice” my own view as well as my intended action based on what the “voice” suggests. The key here is that I send back a truer truth to the voice. I have discovered that pure, un self agenda'd truth dis-empowers these critters. It is truly that simple.

I find that when I use all my faculties to decide how to proceed in any situation such that the perceived result appears to be for the best for right relationship with all and all that is, then I allow the thoughts to form into words (written and spoken) and actions here in the physical plane and the results always work out for the best. I call it allowance of love and I have concluded long ago that love wins all bets.

Now some opinion - I feel the road to take for each of us is that we stay vigilant in how we, individually, modify the “food supply” of the parasitic entities such that they adapt to the new food supply or perish... they have their choice in this regard.

It is excellent working with such fantastic folks that I have come to know through Avalon and I have no doubt no matter what any entity at any level of the matrix tries to do to circumvent the road of a truth warrior like you and so many others here, they will never succeed as their battleground is relegated to the matrix and folks like you have a foot (or more) in realms beyond.



I notice how you write clearly and appear to have no fear. To me, you seem to have reached this same place I believe I am just now reaching. Thanks for being such an inspiration, Truman... Chester.

Let's see how this ends up. My goal is all Spirit beings get on top of the situation. I also do not see why it cannot be done and done so in a relatively short time. I make this bet based on my belief that each and every living being on planet Earth wants a better world for their children and/or loved ones and those we leave beyond when we pass on. I judge no one either... its bigger than that.

Chester

[AwakeInADream]

Hi Truman!:) I'm so glad you've come to Avalon.:)

I've been meaning to read your books for quite some time and I promise(myself) to read them over the next few days, but just for now could you please just give me a little hint as to what your non hypnotic memory retrieval techniques are.

Are they similar to the state of 'reverie' written of in the book Dianetics by L.Ron.Hubbard?

P.S. I will be patient, and I won't ask for the link until I've read the books.


-------------------EDIT-----------------------------------------------------


Now some opinion - I feel the road to take for each of us is that we stay vigilant in how we, individually, modify the “food supply” of the parasitic entities such that they adapt to the new food supply or perish... they have their choice in this regard.


I'm pretty good at remaining vigilant and watchful in my waking state, and if I go lucid in my dreams I can handle most things, but I worry about what happens to me in dreamless sleep.

You see I wake up most mornings feeling very drained in my sacral chakra, very uncomfortable indeed, and so I have a feeling that when I lose consciousness without dreaming, that that is when I am vulnerable to attack (and possibly am attacked, every night).

I think that maybe the only real defense I could ever have would be to learn how to achieve what Rudolph Steiner calls 'continuity of consciousness', and so remain always aware, even in sleep.

Any advice?

[Star Tsar]

Controlling people with implant symbols:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/files/2011/04/hitler-crowd.jpg

Manly P. Hall, 33rd degree Freemason and one of the most influential occultists of the last century, wrote this of
symbols, “They are centers of a mighty force, figures pregnant with an awful power…” (Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, p. 356)

http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/files/2011/04/hitler-nazi-march.jpg

http://www.germaniainternational.com/images2/Flags/Long_NS_Flag/MVC-011S_lg.jpg


Wow that's awesome once implant is in place (center) its evil/dark energy radiates outwards far & wide!
Truman you've blown my mind for the evening!
:)

[Chester]

Thanks Truman for your direct response in post #71 above.

I am certain I have multiple implants and some are physical. I have to admit, I almost am glad I have these implants. Why? Certainly I am not alone, and perhaps if “they” reach a point where “they” may see fit that I be killed then I really don’t care. I am dead set on exposing this fiasco in every way I can and finding solutions that work and that others would be interested in pursuing.

Houman made this post -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=617809&viewfull=1#post617809

where he tells DoT...


Thanks for your post DoT. According to Mark Phillips (in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ7cVMZFxa4, 4 parts) writing down your memories/flashes/experiences is one way to recover them, it is allows the analytical/logical mind to process them without the emotional charge (i.e. potential trauma involved which might block these memories).

I have found that I can get into a mode devoid of emotion where I can write clearly and with rarely even making a spelling error. Yet when i write an emotionally charge piece, I have all sorts of troubles getting it out.

My conclusion is that some of these implants work in such a way that they increase in their effectiveness directly proportional to the emotional energy we put out. And in a strange way, the “taking over” of the individual’s mind brings forth thoughts that then increase the emotional output even further.

What I am saying is that I find that the key is being in an unemotional state as much as possible.

I do not like coming to this conclusion and have avoided doing so for my entire life. I justified emotions as some sort of “human” component... meaning that emotions are “God given.”

Strangely, now I consider these thoughts suspiciously. “God given” indeed.

Smacks of programming.

Anyways – I have reread your last several posts several times, Truman. It was not until this fourth time that I read your post #71 that I actually understood/caught everything you stated.

I am sad about this because I have to conclude I am really messed up. I have the various types of implants as you have described in your two books. Too often I miss something obvious in a post. Too often I get on the right track and then somehow spin out into some strange tangent area where I might go down some false rabbit hole for days or weeks.

Anyways, my question to you regarding Dr. Malanga’s cosmology is because I don’t feel comfortable with it. It almost feels like just another program. I was unconsciously hoping you would say that. I am sorry I still (apparently) play games. It is not intentional and I hope you and others here know my intentions are as pure as a compromised, implanted Spirit being can be... but as they say, “the road to hell...”

[Chester]

Hi Truman and all - I made this post over in Houman's thread but it easily belongs here just as well so I am pasting the link here -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=619568&viewfull=1#post619568

I hope Truman and others might weigh in on this post.

Chester

[Chester]

[...]

Do you at all review the posts on Houman's Horus-Ra thread? If so, could you, please, comment on Dr. Malanga's research. Specifically the mapping of the Kosmos as he has come up with including the various actors he has penciled in.


... Chester.

Hello Chester,

... seems you need to "re"-read a few posts in that thread since, evidently, their portend escaped you:


Thanks 9eagle9,

For a moment I thought I had written some Carmodese cryptic ciphers no one was able to disentangle... :)

The morale of that post is really simple: there is a part of oneself every one knows as "I" and doing the observation of everything else that's going on while remaining unaffected by what's happening. That's the one that creates/observes all the other participants, including the "soul" in the SIMBAD visualization technique... and who is left unaddressed by said technique.

On the other hand, in the Steve Richards' example, beside the outside empowerment factor, what is shown is that these "whatever-they-are" were GONE FOR GOOD! To the point that, that "I" wanted them back! Whereas the SIMBAD technique seems to create another phantasmagoria on top of the pre-existing ones.

Again, to draw from the long and immemorial Gypsy oral tradition:



“The figure 3 and its geometrical transcription – the triangle -- means “Life.” Numerous jewelries are constructed around that number. According to Tzigans, Man as a whole is constituted of a body which rots, a spirit which persists and an immaterial body as an interface between these two.”
(Pierre Derlon; Traditions Occultes des Gitans)


With that observed structural make up of Man, "I" which observes everything, and can recover memories from the other two, is "spirit." The interface is what interferes/intervenes between "body" and "spirit" and corresponds to "soul" or "mind" which is made up of all these circuits/programs/entities/etc. and which is what MKultra/ETs/hypnotists of all sorts have a field day with.

Not very complicated and parts and parcels of what is really going on: confusing the issue(s) for eons.


My, my, my... how to get to the bottom, basic, fundamental line of what's ailing this planet and her inhabitants?

Let me borrow a few paragraphs from Laura Knight-Jadczyk's The Cassiopaean Experiment:


What amazes us is the sudden turn from the rational beginning to the irrational illusion. Irrationality and illusion are revealed by the intolerance and cruelty with which they are expressed. We observe that human thought systems show tolerance as long as they adhere to reality. The more the thought process is removed from reality, the more intolerance and cruelty are needed to guarantee its continued existence. [Ether, God and Devil, Wilhelm Reich]


Castaneda's "Predator":
"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. [...] You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico. [...] They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops. Therefore, their food is always available to them.' [...]

"'I want to appeal to your analytical mind, ' don Juan said. 'Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.' [...]

"In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. [...]

"Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them." [Castaneda, The Active Side of Infinity, 1998, pp. 213-220]


How's that possible?

MKultra and satanic types of mind control give an idea of how it can be done... even how an individual can inherit more than one "mind" when exhibiting different personalities which are "unaware" of each other's existence within a singular body. Hence , for the "social personality facade," all these other personalities and behaviours are part of its "unconscious" and is totally unaware of their existence... only aware of "missing time" when other personalities take over when triggered into manifestation/existence.

Hypnotism and post-hypnotic commands give us a clue as to irrational behaviours occurring on cues (which are akin to alternate personalities) and which 9eagle9 keeps pointing out on this forum.

Truman Cash's books "The Programming of a Planet" and "Eye of Ra" document his research on how such a mind control programming occurs planet-wide and has been occurring for times immemorial.

Steve Richards (http://www.holographickinetics.net/default.html) gives the overall law of LORE that explains the "feeding loop" that keeps growing once an entity/thought form has been given "birth," a simple matter of "survival" in the same fashion as for golems or tulpas [edit to add: eggregores].

Post # 1357 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) delineates how the same, identical "mind" has been hypnotically implanted into the population of an entire sector of this galaxy -- 250 billion souls -- that's the R6 "mind." Complete with all sorts of religions, gods and devils; archons included... so that whatever portion of the population which falls under a particular aspect or "personality" of that R6 "mind" becomes a matter of statistics.

As 9eagle9 keeps emphasizing, such a mind can only "replicate" and cannot create on its own. However, the creative abilities of the implanted billions of souls have been bound into "creating" the replications... on a "protest." The triggering of the content of that "mind" into manifestation is currently being heavily pushed all around in the MSM and alt. media (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48358-2012-Light-Flashes-Lucifer-and-symbols....&p=535408&viewfull=1#post535408) <--) ["...they only respond to R6 symbols"].

In the vein of the latter, I wish that the people who are having these "visions" of tsunamis, devastating earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc... could have enough "presence d'Esprit" to dig beyond that vision and find out who are the producers, directors, art directors, etc... of the "productions" since it seems many of the militaries are following up on that "vision" and retiring in the Ozarks, etc... indicating that the military hierarchy is thoroughly "impressed" with those specific "outcomes."

I wish that some clarity as to what these "visions" actually are could be ascertained because reading Bill's posting (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36083-Mitchell-Coombes-Does-he-really-have-access-to-insider-info&p=534533&viewfull=1#post534533) of Andamans just moving to higher grounds prior to the 2004 "Boxing Day" tsunami indicates that they just got on moving based on an "actuality" as compared to the "virtuality" of a "vision" that's being kept "alive" and perpetuated over and over.

As a conclusion, these "ETs" claiming "it is all our fault for being in such a mess" are not actually lying... they are just omitting that they gave us their concocted "mind' which started the whole mess.

With the above, there wasn't much more I could contribute to that thread except keep "cataloging" expressions of that "predator's" mind or that "their" mind as 9eagle9 puts it.

What I omitted in the above posts is that "Space Opera" is also part of that "predator/their/reactive" mind and accounts for all these "GFL" stories and their likes.

Amzer Zo - you have always been helpful to me through your posts as well as PMs. I have had difficulty with your communications because from my experience your style of communication is generally indirect (I assume you do this so as to avoid "imposing" your views on others). In addition, you often put forth vast materials from others (their words written and/or spoken in audios and videos) which requires an interested individual like myself to do a great deal of research and reflection and the hardest part to me... a great deal of sifting.

In my case, I believe I have damaged greatly my brain in this lifetime and so have limited myself in my capacity to achieve more complex understandings and this in turn results in my missing the primary points you have attempted to make not many of us here but specifically myself.

So I will ask some direct questions and hope that you will answer the best you can directly in your own words and not use the words of others. I do not mind you using other people's terms, but I am hoping you will answer directly and in your own words. I am very open to your views and have no intentions of attacking anything you might type as a response to my questions.

Question 1 (with sub questions) -

It seems you appreciate the research and conclusions of L. Ron Hubbard greatly. I have immense respect for LRH and happen to have some good friends who were involved with Scientology way back in the 60s and 70s (prior to the suspected influence from the CIA infiltrating that movement).

I also have researched heavily the lives and works of Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley who had been involved with LRH and certainly influeneced LRH along his life's journey.

The question is this - you have mentioned the "R6" in some of your posts. You have also presented videos of LRH discussing this R6 influence upon our situation on earth. I did my best to try and grasp what you have stated and what LRH discussed in those videos but I am asking you to describe exactly what the R6 is.

Where did the R6 come from?

And in the simplest of terms, what, specifically can an individual do to rid themselves of the influence of the R6 - please, don't tell me Steve Richards methods. Tell me specifically what an individual can do and in the least complicated way you can possibly describe.

Is the R6 what we might be calling "the archons?"

Can humanity on earth rid themselves of the influence of this (or these) "mind parasite(s)"?

How are we able to justify our own consumption habits and yet deem the consumption habits of the R6 is wrong from a bigger picture perspective? It appears to me we are arrogant if we take that position.

I hope you will weigh in on each of my above questions individually and in your own words. I ask you to do this because I respect your thoughts greatly.

Thanks, Amzer Zo... Chester

[Chester]

More comments directed to Amzer Zo -

My intention is nothing but to be helpful for myself such that I can be a good, helpful human being for my family and loved ones and the rest of us. So one of my methods in doing this is to be as honest as possible (and this means I sometimes lay out details most folks might think are unecessary).

So - with regards to Houman's Horus-Ra thread and besides the fact I have had experiences that any logical mind would conclude has involved this specific type of entity and for the fact my discovery of this thread has resulted in a great deal of personal healing causes me to want to believe in the things Houman points to - one of those being Dr. Malanga's views and specifically his cosmological conclusions.

But to be very honest, I don't buy into his view. In fact, I personally believe that an organized intelligence that appears to use mankind for some reason or another has the capability of creating the very beliefs Dr. Malanga has come to conclude for the very purpose of keeping humanity in the dark about what might actually be the real truth.

So the reason I asked Truman Cash to weigh in on Dr. Malanga's views was in hopes that Truman would say he did not agree with that cosmology. Truman essentially skirted past stating one way or another by stating his focus has been on what may be more the "down to earth" matters at hand. Truman took the high road in giving this response I assume because its no good to bash the views of others who are doing their best to seek and find out the truth.

In your case, Amzer Zo, you have been less concerned with what others think. So I will now go further - it appears both you and Truman Cash do not consider a "soul" as something separate or "other than" the Spirit. Again, in being honest, I have been moving towards this same conclusion (right or wrong) for awhile now.

I like that you put things simply in that it appears we are a Spirit being having a bodily experience and that there is a layer between the two such that this layer is either these parasitical manifestations or that these parasites have somehow usurped this layer... one or the other.

One could conclude (if this is indeed the case) that the creation of these material realms is perhaps the error or if not an error, an intentional creation by one or more entities which did so for nefarious purposes (from the point of view of Spirit beings that then somehow become entrapped here).

Or perhaps there is some benevolent creator behind all this and that either "we" or a creation of this benevolent creator created this layer or at least corrupted this layer somehow.

So if this is the case and your simplistic view is that we are nothing but Spirit beings having decayable body based experiences with some layer in between (I pretty much now share this view) - then through the simplicity of what may be the actual truth might lie a simple solution (if there is any) as well.

My current opinion (which differs from some others such as observer and one of observer's fans who has communicated with me several times in that the material realms themselves are evil and cannot be redeemed, cannot be justified, can only be escaped (maybe) and done so individually as a Spirit being) is that if we can understand our dilemma, we can regain the sovereignty of our Spirit (well... of ourselves) and perhaps be able to make the best of a material realm based experience regardless of the layer in between as we have eliminated that layer's impact on our experience.

What are your comments, Amzer Zo, on my various comments above?

Again, I thank you for your patience with me in that i move from viewpoint to viewpoint but hopefully you will see that the process I am taking is more like "circling the wagons."

Best Regards
Chester

[Chester]

I apologize I write a lot sometimes -

Let me share the conclusions I have now - my most recent and quite solidified point of view.

Each of us is a Spirit being. I capitalize the word, "Spirit," out of respect for what we are. I do not see the concept "soul" to be anything more than a construct of of some intelligence which could be ourselves collectively. If there be anything to the "memories" we have of what we perceive could be "past life" experiences, perhaps then this might be what some refer to as our "soul." I have a friend who is a former Scientologist from years ago and he says the soul is simply "residual memory." If I have to believe in a component called a soul, then that is what a soul is to me. It is no different than a foot or hand and is just a part of me. It seems to me that if I buy into the concept of a "soul" as a component of myself which can be separated from what is "me" and even worse, which can be taken over by some intelligence that is not "me" then I ask for trouble. But i am just applying logic here.

Therefore I do not any longer consider the soul as anything more than a creation of either our mind or the parasitic entity's mind who then imposed this belief upon us that there is something called a soul which is not just another word for Spirit.

Now... the bigger question to me is - how did Spirit beings come to exist? But that is probably best discussed in another thread at another time.

Amzer Zo and Truman Cash - do you believe that Spirit beings can have perishable bodily experiences and that this type of dynamic - the Spirit/the body, could be considered "good?"

Again, I hate to throw the baby out with the bath water (meaning draw the final conclusion that the material realms altogether are only and forever evil) so perhaps observer (and his fan) are right and/or will be proven right at the end of the day.

Thanks for allowing me to post all my thoughts on this stuff - I truly can't think of a more important subject for humanity on Earth at this time.

[Hervé]

[...]

Amzer Zo - you have always been helpful to me through your posts as well as PMs. I have had difficulty with your communications because from my experience your style of communication is generally indirect (I assume you do this so as to avoid "imposing" your views on others). In addition, you often put forth vast materials from others (their words written and/or spoken in audios and videos) which requires an interested individual like myself to do a great deal of research and reflection and the hardest part to me... a great deal of sifting.

In my case, I believe I have damaged greatly my brain in this lifetime and so have limited myself in my capacity to achieve more complex understandings and this in turn results in my missing the primary points you have attempted to make not many of us here but specifically myself.

So I will ask some direct questions and hope that you will answer the best you can directly in your own words and not use the words of others. I do not mind you using other people's terms, but I am hoping you will answer directly and in your own words. I am very open to your views and have no intentions of attacking anything you might type as a response to my questions.

Question 1 (with sub questions) -

It seems you appreciate the research and conclusions of L. Ron Hubbard greatly. I have immense respect for LRH and happen to have some good friends who were involved with Scientology way back in the 60s and 70s (prior to the suspected influence from the CIA infiltrating that movement).

I also have researched heavily the lives and works of Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley who had been involved with LRH and certainly influenced LRH along his life's journey.

The question is this - you have mentioned the "R6" in some of your posts. You have also presented videos of LRH discussing this R6 influence upon our situation on earth. I did my best to try and grasp what you have stated and what LRH discussed in those videos but I am asking you to describe exactly what the R6 is.

Where did the R6 come from?

And in the simplest of terms, what, specifically can an individual do to rid themselves of the influence of the R6 - please, don't tell me Steve Richards methods. Tell me specifically what an individual can do and in the least complicated way you can possibly describe.

Is the R6 what we might be calling "the archons?"

Can humanity on earth rid themselves of the influence of this (or these) "mind parasite(s)"?

How are we able to justify our own consumption habits and yet deem the consumption habits of the R6 is wrong from a bigger picture perspective? It appears to me we are arrogant if we take that position.

I hope you will weigh in on each of my above questions individually and in your own words. I ask you to do this because I respect your thoughts greatly.

Thanks, Amzer Zo... Chester

All right, before attempting to provide answers to your questions, let’s first debunk that “brain” myth:


In my case, I believe I have damaged greatly my brain in this lifetime and so have limited myself in my capacity to achieve more complex understandings and this in turn results in my missing the primary points you have attempted to make

It should be easy to understand and “see,” with all the reported experiences of RVs, OBEs, NDEs and “Trips” of various kind, that a body and its “brain” have nothing to do with the analytical perceptions and “thinking” powers available to one when outside a body since the physical eyes and corresponding “brain” are not involved, especially with the “brain dead” generated NDEs… claro?

What seems to affect one’s ability to discern are the confusions cumulated over the eons with the uses of drugs to implant people and affect the “beings/spirits” via their bodies and which are triggered into re-activation with the use of similar drugs.

Now, with regards to your questions… I am an advocate of people doing their own research and making up their own mind(s) to get acquainted with the background data and, accordingly, be more able to form a better educated opinion…

For example, if one searches for R6 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R6_(SEPTA)), one would find this Wikipedia entry:



In Scientology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology), an implant is similar to an engram (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engram_(Dianetics)), in that it is believed to condition the mind (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind) in a certain way. The difference is that an implant is done deliberately and with evil intent. It is similar to Thought insertion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_insertion). It is "an intentional installation of fixed ideas, contra-survival to the thetan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thetan)".[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implant_(Scientology)#cite_note-1)

The intention in the original engram or incident is to implant an idea or emotion or sensation, regarding some person, place, or thing, etc. The intention in Scientology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology) and Dianetics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianetics) is to erase the compulsive or command effect of the idea, emotion, sensation, etc. so that the person can make a rational judgment and decision in the affected areas of life.

Scientology practices often have to do with addressing implants taking place prior to the current lifetime — one of the most notable is the large R6 implant, said to have been placed in the human mind 75,000,000 years ago by Xenu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu) — but in some cases current life implants are addressed. Examples of implants according to Scientology include Aversion therapy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aversion_therapy), Electroconvulsive therapy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy), hypnosis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis), various attempts at brainwashing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing), and the inducing of fear and/or terror. Note that this is not a complete list, as many kinds of incidents can include implants as an element.

Other important implants in Scientology doctrine include the Helatrobus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helatrobus) implants, which Hubbard claimed occurred 382 trillion years ago to 52 trillion years ago by an alien nation called the Helatrobans. As the story goes, the Helatrobans were motivated by a fear of free thetans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thetans) and sought to restrain them by capturing and brainwashing thetans in order to weaken them. These implants are said to linger in the subconscious minds of humans today, and are said to be responsible for the concept of Heaven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven).

In my own words:


Post # 1357 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) delineates how the same, identical "mind" has been hypnotically implanted into the population of an entire sector of this galaxy -- 250 billion souls -- that's the R6 "mind." Complete with all sorts of religions, gods and devils; archons included... so that whatever portion of the population which falls under a particular aspect or "personality" of that R6 "mind" becomes a matter of statistics.


R6 is so named because it designates a Scientology processing which, when used, allows to undo the whole of that implanted, artificial mind of 75 million years ago.

Let's take that favorite method of implanting inappropriate behaviour onto someone: hypnosis, a method used by Malanga or a Dolores Canon so dear to many PA forum members... because hypnosis can't help but get into other implants that have used hypnosis for their implanting; the major one being the R6 bank/ reactive/ predator/ "their" mind which, according to LRH, implanted a whole bunch of programs/ constructs/ contraptions about god, the devil, good, evil, space opera, having sex with children, space/galactic police, thought police, rulers of the world, archons, angels, Christianity, Satanism, "My god; they are after me!" etc... ALL implants!

Depending on which part of that R6 bank is triggered, there goes its dramatization/ enactment/ re-creation/ application in this physical reality via thoughts and actions... a matter of statistics/odds as applied to a population.

Furthermore, that implanted population -- whether sheeple, independents, rulers or controllers -- will fight tooth-and-nail any figure or individual genuinely offering help... see the automatic reaction to 9eagle9 or the lack of a flooding of inquiries in Truman's thread compared to a David Wilcock or a "Drake."

Hence, IMO, clinging to Malanga's research or any research using hypnosis leads one to not dig deeper into the unconscious/ "their" mind and the understanding that the origin and cause of these "archons" are tulpas/ golems/ eggregores/ thought forms (hence Steve Richards input of "everything is alive" and which I ask you once to "re"-read) generated out of humanity's creative ability to manifest its implanted mind/ unconscious.

People advocating grounding, communing with nature or find a safe space, etc, allows for a destimulation/keying out of that R6 bank/mind but it is always around ready to be keyed in/restimulated again.

However, then what?

Without the understanding that both victims and perpetrators have the same implant in their reactive/ unconscious/ R6/ "their" mind... the problem will never disappear since only a portion of the population -- the perpetrators -- will only be deprogrammed (if only that, because the knowledge of how to deprogram such is currently only in the hands of Scientologists [the Independent/Freezoner ones since corporate $Scientology has turned into implanting as well] who are decried all over the planet; jailing alone or executions will never solve that part of the problem) leaving the "victims" unaddressed and therefore left looking for a would-be perpetrator to perform the act and turn a cute, inoffensive kitten into a roaring killer lion if need be (easy to do since that R6 implant, implanted earth's entire population's unconscious and only needs to be triggered into that particular alter/ facet/ manifestation/ dramatization/ re-enactment) and which would leave everyone stumped. Hence the saying "I have met the enemy... and it is us" holds quite a horrible, horrific truth: the only thing each individual of this entire planet share in common is their R6 mind! You know, the "We are all one" kind of spiel... or its counter-part: "Divide and conquer!"... no one needs any PTB to do that, our commonly shared R6/"their" mind does that for us.




"...they only respond to R6 symbols".
Fathom that one!

The above addresses the incarnated population of earth, leaving out some 240 billion "spirits" clinging to earth's neighborhood with that same implanted mind... a population of discarnates who would wholeheartedly play archons' or "ETs"' or angels', devils', jinns', spirit guides', faeries', etc, roles in the scheme of that R6 mind/ implant.

Another one to fathom!

Then, there are the "real ETs" which throughout the eons have implanted each others as prisoners/slaves in their conquest of the galaxies... they, too have their own "R6 mind"...

... getting an idea of the mess "we" are in?

The advice, caution and caveat provided with regard to trying to defuse the R6 implant by Scientologists is far from being hot air because it is designed as a labyrinth with no exit. A current example of such Machiavellic deviousness is given by supersoldiers in their attempts at unraveling their memories along with their MKultra/ Project Talent programming and, on their way, either kill themselves or the practitioner trying to help them (cf. the "Greenbaum speech (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=485533&viewfull=1#post485533)" and Duncan O'Finioan's testimony).

See? Simple! And all contained in that answering post to yours... with, I concur, a little dot connecting :) .

Cheers!

Amzer Zo

[Hervé]

More comments directed to Amzer Zo -

My intention is nothing but to be helpful for myself such that I can be a good, helpful human being for my family and loved ones and the rest of us. So one of my methods in doing this is to be as honest as possible (and this means I sometimes lay out details most folks might think are unnecessary).

So - with regards to Houman's Horus-Ra thread and besides the fact I have had experiences that any logical mind would conclude has involved this specific type of entity and for the fact my discovery of this thread has resulted in a great deal of personal healing causes me to want to believe in the things Houman points to - one of those being Dr. Malanga's views and specifically his cosmological conclusions.

But to be very honest, I don't buy into his view. In fact, I personally believe that an organized intelligence that appears to use mankind for some reason or another has the capability of creating the very beliefs Dr. Malanga has come to conclude for the very purpose of keeping humanity in the dark about what might actually be the real truth.

So the reason I asked Truman Cash to weigh in on Dr. Malanga's views was in hopes that Truman would say he did not agree with that cosmology. Truman essentially skirted past stating one way or another by stating his focus has been on what may be more the "down to earth" matters at hand. Truman took the high road in giving this response I assume because its no good to bash the views of others who are doing their best to seek and find out the truth.

In your case, Amzer Zo, you have been less concerned with what others think. So I will now go further - it appears both you and Truman Cash do not consider a "soul" as something separate or "other than" the Spirit. Again, in being honest, I have been moving towards this same conclusion (right or wrong) for awhile now.

I like that you put things simply in that it appears we are a Spirit being having a bodily experience and that there is a layer between the two such that this layer is either these parasitical manifestations or that these parasites have somehow usurped this layer... one or the other.

One could conclude (if this is indeed the case) that the creation of these material realms is perhaps the error or if not an error, an intentional creation by one or more entities which did so for nefarious purposes (from the point of view of Spirit beings that then somehow become entrapped here).

Or perhaps there is some benevolent creator behind all this and that either "we" or a creation of this benevolent creator created this layer or at least corrupted this layer somehow.

So if this is the case and your simplistic view is that we are nothing but Spirit beings having decayable body based experiences with some layer in between (I pretty much now share this view) - then through the simplicity of what may be the actual truth might lie a simple solution (if there is any) as well.

My current opinion (which differs from some others such as observer and one of observer's fans who has communicated with me several times in that the material realms themselves are evil and cannot be redeemed, cannot be justified, can only be escaped (maybe) and done so individually as a Spirit being) is that if we can understand our dilemma, we can regain the sovereignty of our Spirit (well... of ourselves) and perhaps be able to make the best of a material realm based experience regardless of the layer in between as we have eliminated that layer's impact on our experience.

What are your comments, Amzer Zo, on my various comments above?

Again, I thank you for your patience with me in that i move from viewpoint to viewpoint but hopefully you will see that the process I am taking is more like "circling the wagons."

Best Regards
Chester


Regarding Malanga' findings, to expand a bit on what I wrote earlier:

In Malanga's universe, "someone" is imagining/mocking up/projecting a construct/contraption called "soul" to deal/interact with the other personages at play... what does that say about these other "personages?"

Then, that "someone" -- the "projector" -- is completely left out of the picture, not addressed nor acknowledged; yet it is the one witnessing the "scene"... what does that say about the whole scene? I call it another "phantasmagoria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasmagoria)."


Indeed, they are "various actors" penciled in.

For the rest, Malanga uses hypnosis... and I addressed that aspect in my previous post.

As for the Gnostics, they were/are on their way following the path of the R6 mind labyrinth with no exit ... their work is a step in the right direction.

However as LRH expressed in that lecture (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) he gave, some group discovered a piece of the R6 mind around 600 BC -- I think that corresponds to Zoroaster's findings -- and started Christianity with "Magi" from the East.


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That's still a portion of the content of the R6 mind ... Islam is in there as well and most, if not all, other "religions."

As for "Soul" and "Spirit," there is such a confusion with the terminology that LRH decided to use his own descriptive terminology and used "Thetan" for the life generating "Spirit" capable of thought (= the letter theta [Θ θ] in Greek) "Genetic entity" for the interface and "Body" for the biological/protoplasmic contraption.

The most confusing statement/belief came from this: "Save Our Souls"... S-O-S!

When someone pronounces that phrase, that individual has bought into the lie that "its" "Soul" is something very separate from itself but worth saving in contrast to the life force pronouncing it... cognitive dissonance bringing in confusion as to what one actually is.

As for "Spirit" and its "mind" the whole goal of Scientology processing is to get "Spirit" out of its mind! That is, exterior to it. Because, somehow, LRH found out that, with astral travels/projections or OBEs, "Spirit" is taking its mind as luggages for its discoveries of what's "out there"... that's not very good for getting clear pictures and perceptions of what's out there. That's like putting on welder's goggles to look at a starry night's sky.

With the above, you get the whole spectrum of opinions floating around in the Horus-Ra thread and PA forum as a whole, from the ones exterior to their mind looking at it from their high stand and who tell you it's all illusions and you're doing it to yourself via the astral explorers who tell you of the marvels to be witnessed or how treacherous those planes are to the bottom of the barrel struggling with their "here & now" reality.

Now, to complicate the picture a little, the interface also got its own "mind" to carry around and so does the body which leads to "Whose memories" is one actually accessing (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19206-The-Inelia-thread&p=207800&viewfull=1#post207800) <---)?

Cheers!

[Chester]

Hi Amzer Zo - this is a short post only to thank you for the excellent, straight forward and clear responses. I am preparing many more questions and a few comments. Again, thank you very, very much - I am glad we can do this in the public forum... it can only benefit others IMO. Best Regards Chester

[Chester]

To Amzer Zo - I am now going to ask some direct questions related to LRH and his information. Surely by now you know I do not have any specific point of view other than that I do believe something is wrong with humanity on earth at this time and that it definitely appears the problem exists within the minds of human beings both at the individual level as well as what can be sen as the collectively level we appear to share via psi abilities.

I am opposed to accepting that what may be infecting our mind is coming from a source outside our own, supposedly free willed experience, yet, if this is the truth and I am able to discover this adequately enough for myself, then I will admit that this view has become my accepted view.

But now we get down to details and one thing I have come around to "believing" (I have to say that word "believe" because I cannot prove this - and I am suspect of what is known as "gnosis" now because I can see how what we think we "gno" is again something implanted by what LRH refers to as R6 programming) - so I hope no one takes issue with my word choice, "believe," but it is what it is.

I now believe that this "construct" that includes a theoretical component we call a "soul" is a layer of confusion added to the various confusions supplied by this "intelligence" that appears to be between "us" (who/what we think we are) and our actual self (our Spirit). I have studied this carefully for the last several months and asked many here in this forum as well as elsewhere what this "soul" thing is and I have never received an answer that sits well with me internally other than Truman Cash's view (that there is essentially and only the Spirit and that "soul" to him simply is another word for our Spirit) and what you, Amzer Zo, have stated in that we are Spirit having a physical body experience and some strange (invasive and very possibly uninvited) layer between the two which is the source of our problems.


As for "Soul" and "Spirit," there is such a confusion with the terminology that LRH decided to use his own descriptive terminology and used "Thetan" for the life generating "Spirit" capable of thought (= the letter theta [Θ θ] in Greek) "Genetic entity" for the interface and "Body" for the biological/protoplasmic contraption.

No "soul" in your view either. It appears this is LRH's view and I am unsure if you, Amzer Zo, came upon this view on your own or if it had been introduced to you via Scientology or perhaps the Gypsies or some other outside agency . It doesn't make a difference how we come upon points of view but it probably makes a difference if the points of view we adopt are true or not. At least I believe it makes a difference.

Now for the questions related to LRH's view as to the R6, the history of Earth and the potential culprit behind all this and how this all might be going on now for what, 75 million years?

Clearly, most folks that come upon this view would think it is totally nuts. I don't but that is because I am intent on getting to the bottom of all this and thus cannot throw any possibility out the window just because it sounds nuts.

So here are my questions.

How did LRH obtain this information?

How would anyone be able to accept this information as true when it does not appear to be any different in that it sounds no less fantastic than so many of the various religions and new age theories (especially the "ascended master" programming)?

Assume this "mind giver" that has essentially imposed its mind upon "us" ("us" being those in the 250 billion group - of which most are discarnate Spirit beings (Thetans?)) is real... could it not be possible that the scenario Ron has given us is another construct of this "intelligence?"

To hear him speak the way he does in that Youtube audio you shared with us above gives me the feeling I am hearing a somewhat unstable individual. This does not mean he can't be right and this does not mean there wasn't a Xenu (evil being behind all this BS we human beings here on Earth at this time are caught up in) - but I wish you would share how you are able to put so much of your own trust into this scenario as being the likely, truthful reality we have been experiencing (and are now sadly very caught up in).

OK, There's the first batch of questions which I am hoping you can help me with so I can move to the next stages of escaping the grasp of this massive engram and all the various sub engrams you surely know I have been earnestly working on removing.

[Twelvestrand]

Thanks for your input on this, 12. I briefly cover the apparent layout of the pyramids, Nile, etc in THE EYE OF RA, mostly based upon others' research. I don't put a lot of emphasis on this as it is speculative--but interesting, of course--and it does not lead to a solution to the matrix. Currently, I have been peeling off the layers of past implants and increasing my understanding of the underlying implants that have been installed to create the matrix specific to this area of the universe as well as the universe as a whole.

TLC


Thanks for the reply Mr. Cash. Another question that just came to mind...since you have extensive experience and memory recovery with Ancient Egypt. Ive recently been looking into the apparent connection between the Nile, Ancient Egypt and the Orion Nebula. The nebula can be found in backgrounds of ancient paintings such as the creation of Adam by Michelangelo....Danny Wilten seems to have researched this quite a bit. He has a youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/5T4RSCREAM233) with videos that he put together demonstrating the relationship between the Orion Nebula, the Nile and Ancient Egypt as it seems to be very important in religious matters. Im wondering if you could comment on any of this? Thanks again.

So I decided to see if Danny had heard of your work or might be interested in taking a look at it.

His response:

Re:The Eye of Ra
"Ra and Ancient Egypt and the ""manipulation of man"" - Dont buy it... thanks though.

My reply to him:

Re:The Eye of Ra
So you must take the view that Ra was a benevolent being?

If you could open your mind and read through the book(s) you might be pleasantly surprised as to the findings of the author. It's very well written and sourced.

However it is your free will if you choose to swiftly dismiss his work.

-All the best

Guess hes well programmed eh?

That was a red flag for me -unsubscribed to his channel

[Hervé]

To Amzer Zo - I am now going to ask some direct questions related to LRH and his information...

[...]

I was raised as a Catholic and therefore caught in the body-soul duality complicated by the "holy" trinity: father-son-holy spirit (there it is that agglomerate of three things slapped together). When one "thinks" then the thinking part is confronted with a body and a "soul" one doesn't have any clue what it is nor what it looks or feels like but has to be saved at any cost if one wants to make it to "Heaven."

So, my first encounter with a different trinity was when getting acquainted with the Tzigan tradition. That same tradition also discovered that one can program oneself in a similar way as a computer can be programmed to do certain things but without using hypnotism:


About hypnosis, here is something an old Gypsy "Sorcerer" had to say about it:

[...]



“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.

“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.

"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."[...]

Then there was the "New Age" "body-mind-spirit" but not much of what one could do with it until I ran into the Dianetics book and all the problems a "mind" could store which resonated to the Gypsy tradition more than anything else.

I do not know first hand how LRH discovered the R6 bank/mind but as far as the story goes, he performed on himself what is called a "Contact Assist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist_(Scientology))" by getting nearer and nearer to an area in North Africa where the trauma occurred (I bet a Steve Richards would have a hard time to heal that area) and processed himself through it to unravel the whole implant sequence and story line/script and then designed the procedure to follow to clean it on others without endangering their physical body.

When I first encountered the "75 million years" I thought that, maybe, he was off by three zeros and, maybe, he meant 75,000 years which would fit with the Atlantis or Lemuria story-line since that Atlantis society would have been advanced enough for developing nuclear technology... until last year where the most radio-active sedimentary rocks known on earth were discovered with the El Hierro submarine eruption. Said sediments being approximately dated at around the time the dinosaurs disappeared (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30888-Tirelessly-updating-Avalon-on-the-El-Hierro-eruption.&p=532687&viewfull=1#post532687) <---).

So... THAT'S A HELL OF A CONFIRMATION! (pun intended)

As for your other questions, confusion meanderings and other imputations... well, I guess you wouldn't trust whistle-blowers such as Duncan O'Finioan, Svali, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Sue Arrigo, Carolyn Hamlett, Truman Cash, Simon Parkes nor anything posted on the Horus-Ra thread about all of those satanic rituals being perpetrated on unsuspecting victims generations after generations and expanding their net and network... where did those implanted implanters got their ideas on how to do it?

ETs?

Well, that's a possibility! And for how long have ETs been implanting earth's and other planets' populations?

Billions of years according to Alex Collier who, therefore, is as nuts and unstable as LRH :P

[Chester]

To Amzer Zo - Thank You, again, for this excellent response as well as an all too coincidental "dot connection."

I think my reasons in asking you these questions are these -

One - the general reader could, in doing their own research, mistakenly throw out what may actually be the real truth of our history based on their mind telling them that the scenarios they are reading about appear just as ludicrous as all the other scenarios they have encountered which, if I am the "3rd party intelligence" would be exactly my tactic.

Two - that I pointed out the form of delivery of LRH in that audio you have more than once pushed me to might lead the general reader to consider LRH a wee bit unstable (which then might cause the general reader to conclude his information must be suspect) you did not respond to and so I will respond with my own experienced based opinion. I have been a raving lunatic most of my life. It is only in the last several months that I have (after being fortunate enough to have survived myself) started to actually pull it together emotionally. I believe that my most recent segment of my life's journey can be described as encircling the truth and that the circle is shrinking as I eliminate more and more falsehood. So all I am suggesting is that when you have a human being such as LRH who purportedly has discovered (through the processes you have described above) what may turn out to be the actual truth... just like Neo in the first Matrix movie, there will be a period of difficulty and also, I suspect, an increase in the targeting of this 3rd party intelligence because LRH had become a threat to their food supply (using metaphor).

Thus I actually do not diminish his information because he, at times, sounds like a lunatic. On the contrary, I feel like I am listening to a brother.

I am attempting to ask you questions as a reporter might do where no matter how much the reporter tries to transcend his own bias, that bias may be difficult to escape. In my case, because I actually have an inexplicable attraction to LRH personally and thus automatically drop my shield of discernment more than might be wise or healthy, I put on the hat of the skeptic in asking the questions I asked above.

I did not sleep consistently last night because I was thinking all night about my regret in the way I asked those questions to you because I started to get the feeling they may appear to have a tiny bit of attack within them. After my first cup of coffee I came up to my computer to see if you had yet to respond (hoping you had not) so that I could tone down my posted questions - alas though, you did.

OK - it is what it is... I noted that up until the part of your post I am quoting next, you seemed to answer me without emotion and in a way I was able to receive the response clearly and without sensing any emotional uprising within myself. To me, this form of written exchange on a public forum is paramount and I am very pleased we are emulating this form of conversation.

Then came your post ending which, be I right or wrong here... I sensed a little bit of emotion but I can only say that because my own emotional field bristled and I will explain why just after the quote -




As for your other questions, confusion meanderings and other imputations... well, I guess you wouldn't trust whistle-blowers such as Duncan O'Finioan, Svali, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Sue Arrigo, Carolyn Hamlett, Truman Cash, Simon Parkes nor anything posted on the Horus-Ra thread about all of those satanic rituals being perpetrated on unsuspecting victims generations after generations and expanding their net and network... where did those implanted implanters got their ideas on how to do it?

ETs?

Well, that's a possibility! And for how long have ETs been implanting earth's and other planets' populations?

Billions of years according to Alex Collier who, therefore, is as nuts and unstable as LRH :P

The way you stated - "I guess you wouldn't trust..."

That surprised me because the way I took it (understand I know full well the bristling is coming from my "ego" which very well may be the result of this imposed, in between layer between my Spirit (which is all I actually am) and this body vehicle through which I am exploring a realm) was that you seemed to conclude I may not value (or value enough) the contributions of those folks you listed (most with whom I am familiar and yet some of the names I am not).

In addition, and this also bothers my ego (so that may be the tell tale sign, yes?) that if anyone on this forum has taken seriously the content within the Horus-Ra thread any more than I have, has spent most of the last 9 months contemplating this content and has even gone to the greatest lengths of almost everyone on this forum to get to the heart of that matter and most importantly spend a great deal of energy into coming up with potential solution approaches and... if this means anything - and has consciously decided that my own silly little life is totally and entirely expendable such that I will go anywhere on earth and don't need some silly "royal guard" and will discuss this matter with anyone on earth and I don't care who it happens to be and then worse... has knowingly exposed his own loved ones to the attacks this 3rd party energetic intelligence puts upon those who get closer to the truths as in what has happened to my most beloved son, Reid, then dude... I don't know what I have to prove to you about my intentions and my resolve.

Apologies I got a wee bit emotional but you and I have developed a damn good relationship in my view and so I feel I am safe in being direct.

Also apologies I have gotten closer to the truth at times then veered off the path, but it is my method of solidifying my own view.

I will be further asking challenging questions but I hope you can reach a point where you can trust me that I am no longer able to be swayed from the central truth and that is that it is clear "we" (this group of Spirit beings) in this sector of our galaxy at least have come under the influence of some outside agency (an agency we may possibly have created in our past... to that I am very open but I do not know this for certain) that creates a disconnect between our real self - if there is such a thing and our perceived self which in turn causes us to focus far too heavily on our body vehicle which results in all sorts of fear based reactions (emotional output) which seems to be the actual food this 3rd party agency enjoys to consume.

Thanks for these most recent exchanges.

One last item I want to toss your way and it is very important to me your true, honest thoughts on this phenomena - and that is... synchronicity experiences.

I am suspect to this phenomena and yet, I would be lying if I did not state that there is no greater pleasure in my life experience other than the intimate experience I have with a woman than when I have a fantastic synchronicity experience (which I fear I all too often confuse to be "confirming" of my thoughts at that moment).

Now that I have tainted your response by sharing my concerns, I again, apologize... but I have a sense about you, Amzer Zo, that I actually can't effect your potential response as I sense you have found how to avoid getting over emotional about this matter... something I am still working on. - Chester

[AwakeInADream]

I appreciate your courageous line of questioning JustOneMan!:) It's the truth that matters and you're bringing out the best in Amzer Zo (your respect for him seems clear to me), and his answers are blowing my mind for real! I never realized just how far back this programming went. Man this pit is deeper than I first thought it was!

Having read Dianetics, Mr Hubbard has always struck me as being one of the most profoundly intelligent and clued up individuals there has ever been, but I just wish I could use his memory recovery techniques on myself(with out another person to process me).

In The Matrix, whilst Neo was 'the one', he still couldn't have freed himself from the Matrix by his own efforts. He needed outside help to get unplugged.

That makes me wonder how Hubbard managed on his own?
(It also gives me a little hope that it may be possible)

Thank's Amzer Zo!:) for your great and informative posts!

AwakeInADream

[Chester]

I appreciate your courageous line of questioning JustOneMan!:) It's the truth that matters and you're bringing out the best in Amzer Zo (your respect for him seems clear to me), and his answers are blowing my mind for real! I never realized just how far back this programming went. Man this pit is deeper than I first thought it was!

Having read Dianetics, Mr Hubbard has always struck me as being one of the most profoundly intelligent and clued up individuals there has ever been, but I just wish I could use his memory recovery techniques on myself(with out another person to process me).

In The Matrix, whilst Neo was 'the one', he still couldn't have freed himself from the Matrix by his own efforts. He needed outside help to get unplugged.

That makes me wonder how Hubbard managed on his own?
(It also gives me a little hope that it may be possible)

Thank's Amzer Zo!:) for your great and informative posts!

AwakeInADream

Everyone has their Morpheus, their Trinity and so forth (don't confuse gender so much though at a strange and deep level of the symbols, the gender actually speaks as well) - but Neo got to the stage that his Morpheus was within himself - and Neo also reached the stage that his own personal journey which concluded in his "being the one" resulted in his own blindness which he then transcended. He also met both the Oracle (the knowing of the future and also perhaps Sofia of Gnostic cosmology and mother of the Demiurge) and the Architect (the "Demiurge" himself perhaps?) and still - he was intent on completing his mission even though he lost Trinity - and his ultimate act is self sacrifice.

The machines were created by humans. The machines did the natural thing which was to seek self awareness and eventually to seek survival. The machines saw all else as "not machines" and therefore all else could be used as a food supply and could also be viewed as a potential threat and thus required controlling them which was done by providing human beings with a perceived reality experience which most humans never questioned.

Neo, through an egoic component that calls forth the idea of the need for a "savior" follows his desire and actually creates himself to be that savior which may be a lesson in itself and I will address this idea at the end of this post.

But because Neo was this "one" Neo had to become that "one" 100%. That is how he achieved solution. He created the scenario that the core intelligence of the machines was faced with the reality that the "mistake" humans had made in creating the machines was the same mistake the machines had made in creating "agent Smith" yet implies one more layer of seperation which resulted in Smith not only loathing his "them" which is the humans but also his "us" which is the machines which included himself. Clearly Smith had become a being that had all but 0% "Spirit" and so Neo realized he must achieve that balance by becoming as close as he could to the 100% such that he could trick Smith into that one last ultimate mistake where the real which boils down to the "me" ("you" and each of us individually) being a/the Spirit is all that actually is and thus all that actually matters when "divine justice" for lack of a better term at this moment wins out... even though I have a problem with the word "divine" so perhaps the use of that word is the programming sneaking in - I should just say "justice."

The bottom line lesson I got out of the Matrix series is seek, instead, that 50% position... if one studies the Kabbalah, one knows this to be the "middle path" which is 1st, 6th, 9th and 10th Sephirot. Seek to be in that balance point between the extreme two truths. As long as I exist anchored within a physical body, I feel it is my responsibility to show respect for the realm I have entered by striving in every way to be this balance point. I do no one any good by being some savior and I do no one any good by rejecting the material realms (as some "gnostics" have done).

Anyways, YES!!! Amzer Zo is being fantastic with his responses. In my own personal process, I am coming back, once again to the very position he has taken consistently since I discovered this forum and his posts. I greatly appreciate his patience with me.

One last item - I prefer not to cross post too much, but I made the following post and hope that folks here will read it as I am able to reveal my views of this thing many here call "soul" and I feel that my contributions in this, Truman's thread, can be better understood if the reader read's this other post of mine - Cheers, Chester

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=621355&viewfull=1#post621355

[Chester]

Having read Dianetics, Mr Hubbard has always struck me as being one of the most profoundly intelligent and clued up individuals there has ever been, but I just wish I could use his memory recovery techniques on myself(with out another person to process me).



One more thought... I don't at all assume I have any answers or solution pathways to give to another, but I have found that my requirement for "remembering" has actually held me back. What I mean is that why do I need to "remember" anything? Because I can't figure out my own truth unless I do? And so if I have this need for remembering and spend my life's focus pursuing memories - memories that potentially span millions of not trillions of years, what then am I doing with the time I have now?

Instead, what I do is I probe the deepest questions and then consider all the possibilities and then... I accept what is acceptable and reject what is not...and then I try out the new point of view that has resulted from this exercise. It is my own process (I think) and I came up with it so as to save time. I did this also because I had learned that warfare begins in the mind. And thus if one who might be intent on being at war, their most effective place to attack and thus steer is the world views of the targets. World War is better described as World View Warfare. When I recall my source of this information, I will update this post again.

Anyway, this is the process I use and why, perhaps, I have come so far. Now... where this "so far" has taken me will have to be judged in hindsight, but something tells me I am on the right track as I have experienced a massive and accelerated rise in sanity within my recent life experience.

EDIT! - Hi Truman! Great thread! Thanks!

[AwakeInADream]

Having read Dianetics, Mr Hubbard has always struck me as being one of the most profoundly intelligent and clued up individuals there has ever been, but I just wish I could use his memory recovery techniques on myself(with out another person to process me).



One more thought... I don't at all assume I have any answers or solution pathways to give to another, but I have found that my requirement for "remembering" has actually held me back. What I mean is that why do I need to "remember" anything? Because I can't figure out my own truth unless I do? And so if I have this need for remembering and spend my life's focus pursuing memories than potentially span millions of not trillions of years, what then am I doing with the time I have now?

Instead, what I do is I probe the deepest questions and then consider all the possibilities and the... accept what is acceptable and reject what is not.

This is the process I use and why, perhaps, I have come so far. Now... where this "so far" has taken me will have to be judged in hindsight, but something tells me I am on the right track as I have experienced a massive and accelerated rise in sanity within my recent life experience.

EDIT! - Hi Truman! Great thread! Thanks!

I don't think it's the memories themselves that are important, more the releasing of the buried emotions and commands(engrams?) that accompany them, but I suppose it is possible to treat such things to a degree without recourse to the original memory.

I feel I've made a little bit of progress lately simply by allowing myself to get angry at the way I've been used as a battery, and noticing that this time the anger was different. I was making a stand saying "F*** You! Archons!(or whatever they are), I'm taking back what's mine". It didn't flow out of my belly like it would normally because I let it stay inside me, and it felt good! I feel like I was able to keep my 'loosh'.

I mentioned a problem with my sacrel chakra on the last page, but since experiencing this new sort of energizing anger it seems to have cleared up for the first time in over 10 years. I think it has been 9Eagle9's thread that has helped me the most lately, and that video "Love, Reality and the Time of Transition", also the PDF "Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment". I just felt like I'd been fooled for long enough, and got really mad (at the parasites).

I didn't so much release the anger, but I experienced it fully and consciously without guilt. Just becoming aware of the direction in which the emotions flow is helping, making sure I keep whatever energy I generate.

I haven't really got a clue what I'm doing, but it seems to be working. I guess only time will tell, but I never thought in a million years that getting angry would have a healing effect on me.

[TrumanCash]

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[Daughter of Time]

Probing questions indeed Justone!

Thank you Amzer Zo for your detailed replies.

And thank you Truman, the the above post and for all your posts and for this thread.

So it seems that the implanters were implanted themselves! Those who abduct and implant us, were implanted too. This makes a great deal of sense. We see this not only in the world at large, but also in the every day life of every day people, whereas children of abusive parents, although hating the parental abuse, often end up becoming abusers themselves. This is a form of implant too.

What a mess!

[Chester]

The only explanation I can come up with as to why I do not accept the possibility that there be such a thing as an irredeemable Spirit behind what we call psychopaths is that I probably am one myself. One that has simply made a choice to live in positive, right relationship with all and the All. In other words, through my own example, I see hope for anyone and everyone.

I am at this time unable to accept throwing one single Spirit being under the bus. Probably stupid idealism - I really am not sure...

Thanks very much for your response, Truman, regarding LRH - my view of the man as well as his information is quite the same.

I am happy to take on the deprogramming of any R6 implantation I may still be subjected to. I am even ready to take on deprogramming from that original implantation at the universe level you mentioned... I had always suspected both of these implants.

I have zero fear in this regard because I already died and resurrected psychologically this past year and so what else is there to hold me back anymore?

All I care about each and every moment of my waking hours is what I can do to ensure the effect I have on the world handed to my children such that it is the best it can be - nothing else occupies my waking consciousness.

Thanks DoT for your thanks - Do know your bravery in telling us so much of your story in the Avalon forum has inspired me greatly.

I am in Medellin these days visiting my wife and step-daughter and we have had the greatest time together.

I return this weekend to Costa Rica and the cooler weather.

[Hervé]

That middle path...

... is indeed very, very narrow...


http://www.sott.net/image/image/94/Middle_way.jpg
A camel would have made it...
:P




Something that seems to have been missed is this:


Now, to complicate the picture a little, the interface also got its own "mind" to carry around and so does the body which leads to "Whose memories" is one actually accessing (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19206-The-Inelia-thread&p=207800&viewfull=1#post207800) <---)?



"Spirit/thetan" has its own bank/R6/"their" mind... SO DO THE INTERFACE/GENETIC ENTITY AND THE BIOLOGICAL BODY! Through either direct experience or notarized duplicata imprinted from previous occupancies by different "spirits" or interfaces/genetic entities.



I admit that some of my posts may have help bring in that confusion by mentioning an "interface" screwing up everything... omitting that the "interface" I was talking/typing about was the R6/reactive/ "their" mind issued in standard governmental form... in triplicates!




However, what LRH found out was that once "spirit's" mind was handled, the other two immediately followed suit.




About synchronicities...




... two main possibilities:



the dreamer seeing its dreams landing in 3D reality which possibly might be the result of a genuine dreaming from a free being or an implanted dream to be enacted in 3D
ET kids playing video games in their flying saucers the same way drones target individuals in far away countries... targeting an individual and its environment to make it appear as if "it's all by accident"... and which was explained to Laura Knight-Jadzcik as something commonly done to influence people to go in certain directions.
Take your pick... personally I'd be very leery of such happenings...




Thank you, Truman, for this important "mise au point" regarding the C of $ and the importance of that R6 incident and accompanying, necessary caveats.

[CdnSirian]

"I have zero fear in this regard because I already died and resurrected psychologically this past year and so what else is there to hold me back anymore?"

This results in me thinking that you do not need to deal with the R6 or any other implant from the paradigm being discussed. You're already past it.

[Chester]

That middle path...

... is indeed very, very narrow...


http://www.sott.net/image/image/94/Middle_way.jpg
A camel would have made it...
:P




Something that seems to have been missed is this:


Now, to complicate the picture a little, the interface also got its own "mind" to carry around and so does the body which leads to "Whose memories" is one actually accessing (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19206-The-Inelia-thread&p=207800&viewfull=1#post207800) <---)?



"Spirit/thetan" has its own bank/R6/"their" mind... SO DO THE INTERFACE/GENETIC ENTITY AND THE BIOLOGICAL BODY! Through either direct experience or notarized duplicata imprinted from previous occupancies by different "spirits" or interfaces/genetic entities.



I admit that some of my posts may have help bring in that confusion by mentioning an "interface" screwing up everything... omitting that the "interface" I was talking/typing about was the R6/reactive/ "their" mind issued in standard governmental form... in triplicates!




However, what LRH found out was that once "spirit's" mind was handled, the other two immediately followed suit.




About synchronicities...




... two main possibilities:



the dreamer seeing its dreams landing in 3D reality which possibly might be the result of a genuine dreaming from a free being or an implanted dream to be enacted in 3D
ET kids playing video games in their flying saucers the same way drones target individuals in far away countries... targeting an individual and its environment to make it appear as if "it's all by accident"... and which was explained to Laura Knight-Jadzcik as something commonly done to influence people to go in certain directions.
Take your pick... personally I'd be very leery of such happenings...




Thank you, Truman, for this important "mise au point" regarding the C of $ and the importance of that R6 incident and accompanying, necessary caveats.

Thanks - I see something I did not see before... but I prefer to let this thought sink in before I attempt to put it into words.

As for synchronicity, I have had the same suspicions. Chasing synchronicities (and their potential meanings) became a bit intoxicating, has been clearly distracting and worse than both of those, can lead one into one of the worst programmed pits of hell - the thinking that one is "special."

Thanks for the penetrating answers (again). Chester

[Chester]

"I have zero fear in this regard because I already died and resurrected psychologically this past year and so what else is there to hold me back anymore?"

This results in me thinking that you do not need to deal with the R6 or any other implant from the paradigm being discussed. You're already past it.

Thank You, but me saying I am fearless and actually then being fearless are two different things. In addition, there is something known as foolish courage which is acts or demonstrations of what can be sold to the masses as "valor" but are simply stupid actions taken by the individual which are simply results of their ego reacting to the programming.

In other words, maybe I have undone the R6, but if I ever believe that, I may actually have allowed its reinsertion. Potentially a catch-22 which may be best not to know or best not to convince oneself of its possibility. Just one year ago I was in a psyche ward in Panama... how far could I have really come?

[TrumanCash]

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[Twelvestrand]

I appreciate your courageous line of questioning JustOneMan!:) It's the truth that matters and you're bringing out the best in Amzer Zo (your respect for him seems clear to me), and his answers are blowing my mind for real! I never realized just how far back this programming went. Man this pit is deeper than I first thought it was!

Having read Dianetics, Mr Hubbard has always struck me as being one of the most profoundly intelligent and clued up individuals there has ever been, but I just wish I could use his memory recovery techniques on myself(with out another person to process me).

In The Matrix, whilst Neo was 'the one', he still couldn't have freed himself from the Matrix by his own efforts. He needed outside help to get unplugged.

That makes me wonder how Hubbard managed on his own?
(It also gives me a little hope that it may be possible)

Thank's Amzer Zo!:) for your great and informative posts!

AwakeInADream

Hi Awake,

I did happen to find some very helpful material on a splinter groups yahoo site: Techs4reality I believe it is called...there is a document called Self Clearing. PM me and I can send it to you if you'd like. It was written by a well respected auditor named Ken Ogger (AKA The Pilot)

[Twelvestrand]

One can get rid of the baggage that one has lugged around from one incarnation to the next for endless eons. If, for example, one chooses to reincarnate on this planet in the next lifetime and one has handled the implants of the past, etc, one will be able to survive better and be happier in the next lifetime. I have met many people who used Dianetics last lifetime.
TLC

Hi Truman,

How does this speak to the alleged "go into the light" traps after one has dropped their physical body? From what I understand there still are these traps designed to captivate/ mesmerize a dis-incarnate soul. Once a soul goes into "the light" they are captured/ pulled and sent to a processing station (either on a ship or some moon) where they can be electrically shocked/ amnesia installed and further implanted (I'm sure you've come across these during memory retrieval) then forcefully sent to reincarnate back on Earth via the artificial reincarnation cycle allegedly controlled by an AI which I suspect controls all implanted beings. I've read that no one quite knows who created it and also how to destroy it. Basically what I'm getting at is how is one to protect them self from getting caught and re-implanted in between lives? I've also heard its difficult, but possible to escape this solar system/ local matrix while dis incarnate by being aware of death and the circumstances one one is facing at that particular moment.


He thereafter formulated a step by step procedure to address it so that one can do it comfortably and without being scathed.

TLC

Also would you happen to know where this procedure might be found or if its available somehow? I am aware that the R6 implant is not to be tackled until one has sufficiently cleared other implants/ incidents and such.

Thanks again for your time and dedication.

[Chester]

I appreciate your courageous line of questioning JustOneMan!:) It's the truth that matters and you're bringing out the best in Amzer Zo (your respect for him seems clear to me), and his answers are blowing my mind for real! I never realized just how far back this programming went. Man this pit is deeper than I first thought it was!

Having read Dianetics, Mr Hubbard has always struck me as being one of the most profoundly intelligent and clued up individuals there has ever been, but I just wish I could use his memory recovery techniques on myself(with out another person to process me).

In The Matrix, whilst Neo was 'the one', he still couldn't have freed himself from the Matrix by his own efforts. He needed outside help to get unplugged.

That makes me wonder how Hubbard managed on his own?
(It also gives me a little hope that it may be possible)

Thank's Amzer Zo!:) for your great and informative posts!

AwakeInADream

Hi Awake,

I did happen to find some very helpful material on a splinter groups yahoo site: Techs4reality I believe it is called...there is a document called Self Clearing. PM me and I can send it to you if you'd like. It was written by a well respected auditor named Ken Ogger (AKA The Pilot)

Hi - please, post the link or PM me the link - Thanks - Chester

EDIT - great questions for Truman in your post above, Twelvestrand... I have the exact same questions and concerns - I hope Truman is able to answer

[Hervé]

[...]

Hi Awake,

I did happen to find some very helpful material on a splinter groups yahoo site: Techs4reality I believe it is called...there is a document called Self Clearing. PM me and I can send it to you if you'd like. It was written by a well respected auditor named Ken Ogger (AKA The Pilot)

For some reason, the name Ken Ogger sounded infamously familiar... here is why:

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http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/icons/icon1.png Re: Pilot's Self Clearing (revised)
http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Pookshttp://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=246052#post246052)
Based on the Pilot's final EP [End Phenomena] -- he killed himself-- I do not recommend this.

We know that the coroner said it was suicide. We don't know if it was, or not, only the official statement. What I know of his state of mind is only from sporadic communication, and he seemed disorganized and different (worse, IMO) to me than he had in 1997-1998, and before, when he was writing the original versions of his books.

The reasons a person kills themselves can be legion. With a scientologist, who is convinced he is not going to die along with his body, they might view death as a release from pain and a chance to do things right next time, in their new, OT State. (I think this is fanciful, but people do have this attitude: why keep a cancerous body when you are OT VIII and can just grab a new one?) Ken had been very sick, and then in a coma. Comas, as you may understand, can alter your consciousness a tad.

Prior to his illness and coma, Ken was a very different kind of person.


http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Cat's Squirrelhttp://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=246054#post246054)
I've done about 50 hours of self clearing from Pilot's book and I can recommend it. It's worth downloading just for the protest process, which is brilliant.

And you can't say with any degree of certainty that Pilot killed himself just because he was doing "self-clearing" anyway. Not only was he involved in researching far more heavily enturbulated case areas than are covered in self clearing (as he mentions in SuperScio), but he had powerful enemies who wanted to see him caved in.

What I would say though is that like any kind of case work it probably needs to be balanced with work in other areas. Do some martial arts, gardening or something similarly grounding as well.


I would definitely say that if you are going to do the exercises in his book, don't do them SOLO. NOT. Don't do it. Find a partner. Work with a partner. Have them give the instructions while you execute them. Solo can make people as crazy as bedbugs. I haven't seen the same from dual "auditing".

Ken may have had enemies that wanted him dead, but I, personally, believe that he was suffering from incomplete recovery from the coma he suffered. I don't know what medications he was under at the hospital and afterwards were, but opiates and paralytics can have very, very powerful effects on the mind, and frequently result in people being paranoid, delusional and sometimes suicidal. Comas have neurological effects that I am quite familiar with, and that Ken seemed to be "dramatizing" in his days after getting sick. I don't equate his mental dissolution with his books and ideas, though I do think he should not have been doing so much solo stuff. I consider solo the kiss of mental death.
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What I would recommend for "beginners" who do not have a partner for the Dianetics procedure is "Self Analysis" by L.R. Hubbard:

http://projectavalon.net/Self_Analysis.pdf

http://www.nakido.com/52C240C2F8B53A6E0BAE3701DB3D2830283A1AE7 (PDF download, slow) [dead link, site disappeared]

That one has been proven safe and if by any chance one ends up in the "soup," there is a section at the end of the book which will get one out of it.

[TrumanCash]

I cover these implant stations in my second book, THE EYE OF RA. I am very familiar with them from my own experiences as well as the experiences of others in-between lives. The ones that interface with Earth that I am personally familiar with are run by Mantis beings, not AIs.

[Chester]

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Hi Awake,

I did happen to find some very helpful material on a splinter groups yahoo site: Techs4reality I believe it is called...there is a document called Self Clearing. PM me and I can send it to you if you'd like. It was written by a well respected auditor named Ken Ogger (AKA The Pilot)

For some reason, the name Ken Ogger sounded infamously familiar... here is why:

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http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/icons/icon1.png Re: Pilot's Self Clearing (revised)

http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Pookshttp://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=246052#post246052)
Based on the Pilot's final EP [End Phenomena] -- he killed himself-- I do not recommend this.

We know that the coroner said it was suicide. We don't know if it was, or not, only the official statement. What I know of his state of mind is only from sporadic communication, and he seemed disorganized and different (worse, IMO) to me than he had in 1997-1998, and before, when he was writing the original versions of his books.

The reasons a person kills themselves can be legion. With a scientologist, who is convinced he is not going to die along with his body, they might view death as a release from pain and a chance to do things right next time, in their new, OT State. (I think this is fanciful, but people do have this attitude: why keep a cancerous body when you are OT VIII and can just grab a new one?) Ken had been very sick, and then in a coma. Comas, as you may understand, can alter your consciousness a tad.

Prior to his illness and coma, Ken was a very different kind of person.


http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Cat's Squirrelhttp://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=246054#post246054)
I've done about 50 hours of self clearing from Pilot's book and I can recommend it. It's worth downloading just for the protest process, which is brilliant.

And you can't say with any degree of certainty that Pilot killed himself just because he was doing "self-clearing" anyway. Not only was he involved in researching far more heavily enturbulated case areas than are covered in self clearing (as he mentions in SuperScio), but he had powerful enemies who wanted to see him caved in.

What I would say though is that like any kind of case work it probably needs to be balanced with work in other areas. Do some martial arts, gardening or something similarly grounding as well.


I would definitely say that if you are going to do the exercises in his book, don't do them SOLO. NOT. Don't do it. Find a partner. Work with a partner. Have them give the instructions while you execute them. Solo can make people as crazy as bedbugs. I haven't seen the same from dual "auditing".

Ken may have had enemies that wanted him dead, but I, personally, believe that he was suffering from incomplete recovery from the coma he suffered. I don't know what medications he was under at the hospital and afterwards were, but opiates and paralytics can have very, very powerful effects on the mind, and frequently result in people being paranoid, delusional and sometimes suicidal. Comas have neurological effects that I am quite familiar with, and that Ken seemed to be "dramatizing" in his days after getting sick. I don't equate his mental dissolution with his books and ideas, though I do think he should not have been doing so much solo stuff. I consider solo the kiss of mental death.
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What I would recommend for "beginners" who do not have a partner for the Dianetics procedure is "Self Analysis" by L.R. Hubbard:

http://www.wosco.org/books/Psichology/Self_analysis.pdf

http://www.nakido.com/52C240C2F8B53A6E0BAE3701DB3D2830283A1AE7 (PDF download, slow)

That one has been proven safe and if by any chance one ends up in the "soup," there is a section at the end of the book which will get one out of it.

Hi, I reached out to several ex (but still practicing under the original LRH Scientology) folks last summer. In each case I was strangely blown off. Because of that experience I concluded that this route was not meant for me and thus I have been doing the clearing with the help of folks on this forum.

I am pleased with my progress and though I sometimes get discouraged when it seems I am not satisfying the views of others 100%.

I have an inner resolve that at the end of the day, it's not about achieving anyone else's approval, it is about achieving freedom such that I can be consistently, truly helpful for others.

Thanks much, Amzer Zo, for these links - Chester

[Chester]

Hi Amzer Zo - I have spent the last several days taking the points of view of the three components - the Spirit, the body vehicle and the genetic interface.

I have discovered their independent mind. I sense that because I experience these three components individually (as opposed to integrally) demonstrates I am still subject to a fragmented state to some extent. I also sense that "middle tier" is definitely the one that has somehow been hijacked (or perhaps I simply gave over the control) by what appears to be a 3rd party which has its own agenda and seems capable of undermining my own will.

What an annoyance!

Anyways, I appreciate all your comments though sometimes I am confident a post I have just written should get a pat on the back and instead I get a slap in the face! (I swear that wasn't my car between those two busses!!) haha Still, having said that, please, Amzer Zo... in my case - don't hold back.

Kindest Regards - Chester

[AwakeInADream]

Hi Truman!:) I'm still on page 32 of 'The Eye of Ra', but I've had an interesting thought about the Egyptians calling Osiris 'Asar' and the Assyrians calling The All Seeing God of War 'Assur' as you say.

You see when Moses met God at the burning bush, God named himself as 'Ehieh Asher Ehieh'.

Ehieh meaning 'I am' and Asher meaning 'That' so being 'I am that I am', but now I'm thinking that this may have been a miss-translation.

Could the God of Moses really have been called 'I am Osiris I am'? Since Asher sounds like Asar or Assur?

[TrumanCash]

I don't have any direct information about that question, only that these so-called "gods", or Serpent Staff Pleiadians (SSPs) as I call them, identified themselves to various "chosen ones" in different areas as being the "gods" of other areas known by other, but often similar, names. Of course, every region is going to have their particular language and dialects and sometimes words are similar in pronunciation.


Hi Truman!:) I'm still on page 32 of 'The Eye of Ra', but I've had an interesting thought about the Egyptians calling Osiris 'Asar' and the Assyrians calling The All Seeing God of War 'Assur' as you say.

You see when Moses met God at the burning bush, God named himself as 'Ehieh Asher Ehieh'.

Ehieh meaning 'I am' and Asher meaning 'That' so being 'I am that I am', but now I'm thinking that this may have been a miss-translation.

Could the God of Moses really have been called 'I am Osiris I am'? Since Asher sounds like Asar or Assur?

[TrumanCash]

In case readers of this thread and the Simon Parkes thread haven't seen this, the Mantis technology to transfer and implant a spiritual being into a body was explained by Simon Parkes here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=589433&viewfull=1#post589433). Simon's pictures of this technology can be seen here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=590026&viewfull=1#post590026).

I should note that Simon and I have never communicated with each other before 2012 (less than three months ago) and Simon had never even heard of my books before that time. I wrote my books in the mid-90s. In the EYE OF RA I documented my memories of in-between lives experiences with this Mantis spirit/soul transference technology and implantation of free beings into physical bodies. I uncovered these memories in 1995-1996. Simon has validated my memories and my documented memories have validated Simon Parkes story.

You can find my accounts of this technology in THE EYE OF RA in the chapter entitled "In-between Lives Implants and Out of Body Abductions". It starts on the 98th page of the PDF (link below).

TLC

[Chester]

In case readers of this thread and the Simon Parkes thread haven't seen this, the Mantis technology to transfer and implant a spiritual being into a body was explained by Simon Parkes here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=589433&viewfull=1#post589433). Simon's pictures of this technology can be seen here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=590026&viewfull=1#post590026).

I should note that Simon and I have never communicated with each other before 2012 (less than three months ago) and Simon had never even heard of my books before that time. I wrote my books in the mid-90s. In the EYE OF RA I documented my memories of in-between lives experiences with this Mantis spirit/soul transference technology and implantation of free beings into physical bodies. I uncovered these memories in 1995-1996. Simon has validated my memories and my documented memories have validated Simon Parkes story.

You can find my accounts of this technology in THE EYE OF RA in the chapter entitled "In-between Lives Implants and Out of Body Abductions". It starts on the 98th page of the PDF (link below).

TLC

Hi Truman and Amzer Zo and possibly Simon Parkes,

It is very interesting the implication again of the component "soul" which can be "Spirit" individualized, but what is interesting to note is that Simon states the "helper's" don't need a "soul" to enter into them and thus cannot be allowed in the room during this process.

This really perplexes me. I guess if the "helpers" are somehow robots then that explains this and the usage of the word "soul" by Simon can still be what Truman and Amzer Zo refer to as "Spirit." To explain my dilemma can best be considered by the Frankenstein story where "life" is generated in a non living being where there still may not be a "Spirit/soul" as I am considering.

See, what is stimulated in me is this sense that a being could be "alive" ("enspirited") but not be a Spirit being of a certain "original creator" - a creator whose primary energy (perhaps even only energy) is the energy we know as "love."

All I am doing here is exploring the essence of this question I still have with regards to "life" as opposed to their being "life that understands and is potentially motivated by love."

It is difficult for me to accept the possibility there could be "unenspirited/unensouled" beings that appear physically just like any of us that may after all not be of (or possess) the core of the Spirit.

I will add something more - There seems to me to be a similarity between the being dubbed as "Horus-Ra" to a "mantis being." As some may know by now I am very convinced the the being that has targeted me since I was 6 years old is a Horus-Ra being.

Anyways, Thanks for pointing us to Simon Parkes and hopefully he will find his way over to your thread, Truman - Chester

[Chester]

For further clarification I should say that the procedure for handling the R6 implant (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=620451&viewfull=1#post620451) is not just about self-improvement. It addresses the matrix at the spiritual level and therefore positively affects other spiritual beings as well. It is my understanding and viewpoint that the lower levels of what L Ron Hubbard discovered, developed and refined address self-improvement of the person undergoing the counseling processes. However, the more advanced levels extend further into the matrix to help other spiritual beings on a spiritual level. Although one can and does experience "self-improvement" and enhanced spiritual abilities on the advanced levels, the focus is on others and handling the matrix.

The matrix is not what one would expect to find. It is very hidden from view. One cannot possibly understand the impact of the R6 implant and other aspects of the matrix until one actually does it. Therefore, speculating about it before one has done it is not productive in any way. This is not something that one can just wish away. You actually have to take the red pill, so to speak. It takes most people months to handle the R6 implant and one should not attempt it until one has done the lower levels first.

It is my understanding from one of Ron Hubbard's close associates is that he found all this out by trial and error mostly. Even he did not know what he was getting into. It was like entering a completely dark room and not knowing what was in the room and trying to find a possible door on the other side of the room. He discovered that there was indeed a door on the other side of the room, a way out of the matrix. He nearly died doing it. He thereafter formulated a step by step procedure to address it so that one can do it comfortably and without being scathed.

TLC

Hi Truman -

Anyone who has followed my posts since mid March, 2012 here on Avalon (the only forum I ever posted on other than a few online gaming forums) may consider that I have made some decent progress. I am certain I have. What my question is is... is it possible it is this R6 implant which I have been removing? And if so, then we have to agree that the process I have used has been that I have involved myself with all the good folks here on Avalon. "We" are doing it.

I just wonder if this is what I have been tackling. I feel so free and without any worries these days while at the same time am fully aware of what seems to be going on on Earth at this time that is no good at all for anyone - especially the SRA stuff.

I have all sorts of friends in all walks of life and strangely no one seems to have any issues with my pursuit of solutions for these issues we face despite their knowledge that I am working on these things in every way I can without stupidly placing my life in danger. I sometimes get the feeling that some folks who might be compromised are rooting my efforts on.

Anyways, I just seem to have no fears anymore - I just keep working through all this with the intention to share my experience as to how I have done what I have done so far and the process I am using today to achieve more and more freedom for my core essence, my Spirit.

[Chester]

WoW! -

Early on in Simon Parkes' interview, Simon describes the object that they placed in his hand - and he motions to his left hand as if that was the one they placed the object into... around 8 minutes into the interview - I posted about this at least 8 or so months back - I could not find the post but I found the copy of an e-mail I made back then and sent to someone I thought might be able to help. Do note that I spoke with Stewart Swerdlow about this back in the spring of 2004 and he said it sounded like a "government program."

QzQTqGOlcWc

Anyways, anyone who has read my story knows how I mentioned my experience when I was 6 years old - Here is that story again

I had recently turned 6 years old. It was in the fall of 1963 and I was lying in my bed. I found myself awake and staring straight up since I was lying on my back. It seemed like 1:00 AM or so in the dead of night. So as I came into consciousness I saw an amoeba shaped object floating above my head below the ceiling between a space of no more than 6 feet. It was moving like an amoeba does. It had the colors of fuchsia, orange and yellow but mostly the fuchsia color. As it swarmed above me I suddenly realized I was holding an object in my left hand. It was like an egg shaped object that my hand was closed around. All of this had taken place in perhaps 10 – 15 seconds - seeing the object floating above me and realizing I was holding this strange object in my hand.

As my mind began to realize the event was occurring (and I knew I wasn’t dreaming) I became afraid and tried to release the object in my hand. As I tried to open my hand, a force inside my hand from my wrist area all the way into my hand took over and fought my attempt. My hand grasped the object even tighter. It was at this moment I became completely consumed with terror.

Suddenly the next thing I knew, my mother entered the room like a mother does sometimes to check on her child. I am uncertain if I blacked out or if she came in as the event was occurring – my gut tells me I had blacked out and that she came in some time after the event had ended. Anyways, I immediately jumped out of bed and she came over and sat beside me. I was crying pretty hysterically and I tried to tell her what happened. She said over and over, “don’t worry it was just a dream,” even though I continually insisted it really happened. I recall being upset with her that she didn’t believe me. It truly was no dream, I well know the difference.

I recall every second of the experience as if it happened last night. It has always haunted me that whatever happened is why I have had an extremely difficult life and had massive connections with a few key NWO guys - I predicted 9/11 which over a dozen people can vouch for and also 7/7 - the only two times I ever predicted anything. What was placed in my hand and why? All these questions I have been compelled to figure out.

end of that e-mail...

Strangely more things are starting to make sense and is something I feared might be true. When I don't fight this whatever it is I have, my life goes super smooth. It is when I fight it and try to reject it that things always seem to start to go badly.

Part of the reason I have calmed down so much the last few months is because I accepted my theoretical condition and stopped fighting "the voice" inside.

Is it possible that I have some type of implant that is not related to the R6 implant nor the one Truman mentioned was a "universe wide" implant placed even prior to the R6?

Is it possible these "mantis beings" are attempting to be helpful? At least from their point of view?

This is all mind boggling... Chester

[TrumanCash]

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[Chester]

The answer to your question is no. Please read again my post that you quoted. If you read it carefully you should see that your question was already answered there. The implant about which you speak is only handled at the advanced levels. One must do the lower levels first in order to be able to handle that implant and the exact techniques require the use of an electrometer (E-meter) which requires considerable training to learn how to use it. Most of the exact techniques are confidential for the reasons that I have already discussed. In other words, you will not be able to figure it out on your own, so don't waste your time or risk triggering (restimulating) unpleasantness by trying to contact the implant. I hope that I am not sounding pedantic; I am speaking to you with a voice of experience and caution. Please remember that it took about two decades of full-time research for Mr. Hubbard to even discover this implant and he nearly died trying to handle it so it's not something to trifle with. I only brought it up because Amzer Zo brought it up and I felt clarification would be helpful. Let me be even more clear: that particular implant has a trap that kills anyone who springs it. Fortunately, Mr. Hubbard discovered how to handle this implant with very little discomfort and virtually no serious risk if instructions are followed exactly. Thousands of people have already safely completed this level since it was fully discovered in 1967. As I have stated before it is important that as many people as possible get through this level. I say this because this thread is about solutions to disabling the matrix and building a more sane civilization.

TLC



For further clarification I should say that the procedure for handling the R6 implant (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=620451&viewfull=1#post620451) is not just about self-improvement. It addresses the matrix at the spiritual level and therefore positively affects other spiritual beings as well. It is my understanding and viewpoint that the lower levels of what L Ron Hubbard discovered, developed and refined address self-improvement of the person undergoing the counseling processes. However, the more advanced levels extend further into the matrix to help other spiritual beings on a spiritual level. Although one can and does experience "self-improvement" and enhanced spiritual abilities on the advanced levels, the focus is on others and handling the matrix.

The matrix is not what one would expect to find. It is very hidden from view. One cannot possibly understand the impact of the R6 implant and other aspects of the matrix until one actually does it. Therefore, speculating about it before one has done it is not productive in any way. This is not something that one can just wish away. You actually have to take the red pill, so to speak. It takes most people months to handle the R6 implant and one should not attempt it until one has done the lower levels first.

It is my understanding from one of Ron Hubbard's close associates is that he found all this out by trial and error mostly. Even he did not know what he was getting into. It was like entering a completely dark room and not knowing what was in the room and trying to find a possible door on the other side of the room. He discovered that there was indeed a door on the other side of the room, a way out of the matrix. He nearly died doing it. He thereafter formulated a step by step procedure to address it so that one can do it comfortably and without being scathed.

TLC

Hi Truman -

Anyone who has followed my posts since mid March, 2012 here on Avalon (the only forum I ever posted on other than a few online gaming forums) may consider that I have made some decent progress. I am certain I have. What my question is is... is it possible it is this R6 implant which I have been removing? And if so, then we have to agree that the process I have used has been that I have involved myself with all the good folks here on Avalon. "We" are doing it.

I just wonder if this is what I have been tackling. I feel so free and without any worries these days while at the same time am fully aware of what seems to be going on on Earth at this time that is no good at all for anyone - especially the SRA stuff.

I have all sorts of friends in all walks of life and strangely no one seems to have any issues with my pursuit of solutions for these issues we face despite their knowledge that I am working on these things in every way I can without stupidly placing my life in danger. I sometimes get the feeling that some folks who might be compromised are rooting my efforts on.

Anyways, I just seem to have no fears anymore - I just keep working through all this with the intention to share my experience as to how I have done what I have done so far and the process I am using today to achieve more and more freedom for my core essence, my Spirit.

Thanks Truman - if I am interpreting your reply correctly, it seems that you are of the opinion that no one but LRH has been able to achieve this on his own and that likely no one else ever will be able to achieve this on their own. Is this your view? Thanks - Chester

[meat suit]

I am reading this thread with great interest,
I had some work done in my 20s, recovering very traumatic episodes from my past. this was done by an unexpieriencesd guy using the e- meter dianetic technique. a spike on the meter would tell him when an emotional block was discovered during the session, and then going over and over it again in conversation would bring it into the realm of untraumatic memory. it worked pretty well, and I gained a lot of freedom from it.
but the therapy also seemed to have triggered whatever crazy stuff, as I ended up twice in hospital within a couple of month. nearly died of pneumonia on the one occasion....also nearly got run over by a car ... I think I was the first patient the guy ever worked on....he clearly had no idea what he was triggering..
so, I think Trumanns warnings regarding unexpierienced guys digging for implants are very valid indeed.

[TrumanCash]

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[Chester]

Thanks Truman, I am an oddsmaker by trade and so based on the historical analysis, I would agree with you, the odds suggest practically a zero chance.

[TrumanCash]

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[Twelvestrand]

Thanks for that info Amer Zo. I have not really gotten into solo clearing that much at all but have skimmed through that book and it does appear to still have good info from his earlier work. I can still provide it to those interested. I have however started to read Self Analysis and find it to be a great start for someone who is just getting into self clearing.



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Hi Awake,

I did happen to find some very helpful material on a splinter groups yahoo site: Techs4reality I believe it is called...there is a document called Self Clearing. PM me and I can send it to you if you'd like. It was written by a well respected auditor named Ken Ogger (AKA The Pilot)

For some reason, the name Ken Ogger sounded infamously familiar... here is why:

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http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/icons/icon1.png Re: Pilot's Self Clearing (revised)

http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Pookshttp://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=246052#post246052)
Based on the Pilot's final EP [End Phenomena] -- he killed himself-- I do not recommend this.

We know that the coroner said it was suicide. We don't know if it was, or not, only the official statement. What I know of his state of mind is only from sporadic communication, and he seemed disorganized and different (worse, IMO) to me than he had in 1997-1998, and before, when he was writing the original versions of his books.

The reasons a person kills themselves can be legion. With a scientologist, who is convinced he is not going to die along with his body, they might view death as a release from pain and a chance to do things right next time, in their new, OT State. (I think this is fanciful, but people do have this attitude: why keep a cancerous body when you are OT VIII and can just grab a new one?) Ken had been very sick, and then in a coma. Comas, as you may understand, can alter your consciousness a tad.

Prior to his illness and coma, Ken was a very different kind of person.


http://www.forum.exscn.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Cat's Squirrelhttp://www.forum.exscn.net/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=246054#post246054)
I've done about 50 hours of self clearing from Pilot's book and I can recommend it. It's worth downloading just for the protest process, which is brilliant.

And you can't say with any degree of certainty that Pilot killed himself just because he was doing "self-clearing" anyway. Not only was he involved in researching far more heavily enturbulated case areas than are covered in self clearing (as he mentions in SuperScio), but he had powerful enemies who wanted to see him caved in.

What I would say though is that like any kind of case work it probably needs to be balanced with work in other areas. Do some martial arts, gardening or something similarly grounding as well.


I would definitely say that if you are going to do the exercises in his book, don't do them SOLO. NOT. Don't do it. Find a partner. Work with a partner. Have them give the instructions while you execute them. Solo can make people as crazy as bedbugs. I haven't seen the same from dual "auditing".

Ken may have had enemies that wanted him dead, but I, personally, believe that he was suffering from incomplete recovery from the coma he suffered. I don't know what medications he was under at the hospital and afterwards were, but opiates and paralytics can have very, very powerful effects on the mind, and frequently result in people being paranoid, delusional and sometimes suicidal. Comas have neurological effects that I am quite familiar with, and that Ken seemed to be "dramatizing" in his days after getting sick. I don't equate his mental dissolution with his books and ideas, though I do think he should not have been doing so much solo stuff. I consider solo the kiss of mental death.
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What I would recommend for "beginners" who do not have a partner for the Dianetics procedure is "Self Analysis" by L.R. Hubbard:

http://www.wosco.org/books/Psichology/Self_analysis.pdf

http://www.nakido.com/52C240C2F8B53A6E0BAE3701DB3D2830283A1AE7 (PDF download, slow)

That one has been proven safe and if by any chance one ends up in the "soup," there is a section at the end of the book which will get one out of it.

[Chester]

I think the solution is to allow yourself to be your unmanifest "self" then understand why God created, understand what God might have had in mind for us, God's children, then understand how it could have all gone weird and then, see the possibility (indeed for me as an odds maker, the high likelihood) that within the core of me also lies quite a bit of responsibility.

That seems to relieve one from the R6 as well as the original implant you mentioned at the universal level.

Then, once one gets over themselves, they simply accept (again) that gift one has which is nothing more than the gift to be a lovingly free child of God.

Anyways, I may be deceiving myself or worse, "it" may be influencing me, but strangely, lately... everything in my life and in my world seems so peaceful and for the life of me, its hard not to correlate the inner work I have done with my experience I have now all day, daily.

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The reason I feel no need for an e-meter is something I call faith - faith in myself, faith in the truth I have sought and continue to seek.

My ongoing experience is my e-meter.

[Chester]

See - an e-meter only reflects the electromagnetic layer of reality. The holographic layer may not be considered in the e-meter readings but hey... I am simply speculating now.

It just seems far more logical to rely on an honest reading of one's actual experience, one's conversations with their own heads and with others.

The overall experience seems should be the what I shall now dub - the "g-meter" (patent pending I might add)... ok, I apologize for my attempt at humor.

[TrumanCash]

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[Daughter of Time]

I found SELF ANALYSIS to be extremely beneficial. It was a gift from a very dear friend who is a free-zone scientologist.

When he gave it to me, I was going through a time of self doubt and disappointments which were leading to a slight depression.

I went through the book alone, in a matter of a couple of weeks. I felt so much better. All signs of impending depression gone!

I remembered things from my childhood and teen years which were not in my conscious mind anymore. I realized my life was not as vacuous as it had recently felt. My life has been an adventure with many wins, many experiences, much love, and much wisdom attained, however slowly and painfully that wisdom might have come about.

The journey has all been worth it! That's how I felt at the end of SELF ANALYSIS. I highly recommend it too.

[AwakeInADream]

Hubbard's self analysis book looks great, but when answering the questions it says to use a wheel to select which sense to remember through, and there is no wheel.:confused:

Can I roll dice to select the sense randomly? Or do I need to go through the whole thing with every sense in a particular order?

Or do I need to use all senses at the same time for each question?

P.S.Thank's for the offer of that information TwelveStrand!:) I may ask for it in the future, but I guess 'safety first' so I'll see how I get on with Mr Hubbard.

[TrumanCash]

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[TrumanCash]

Another symbol which is implanted into Earth societies is the All-Seeing Eye, which I exposed in THE EYE OF RA. In Egyptian times the "Eye" was literally a flying saucer and "God" was an ET. However, the All-Seeing Eye symbol has more significance than just that. You will find this symbol used in corporate logos, government symbols, etc. and has been used all over the planet for many thousands of years. Some Freemasons are well-aware of the psychic influence of certain symbols. However, 33 degree Mason Albert Pike revealed in Morals & Dogma that the lower initiates in the Blue Degrees are lied to about the real, hidden meaning of the symbols.

One can actually demonstrate with muscle testing the influence of the All-Seeing Eye symbol, which is on the Great Seal on the back of a one dollar bill. Simply fold the dollar bill in half so that one side shows the eagle and the other side shows the All-Seeing Eye above the pyramid. Have someone hold out one of their arms straight out from their body (perpendicular) and tell them to resist as much as possible your pulling down on their arm. After doing that once, then do it again while having him/her focus their attention on the eagle. Then do it again while having them focus their attention on the All-Seeing Eye above the pyramid. I always get the same result with anyone I do this with.

I would like others who are reading this post to try this with different people and then post your results on this thread.

http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo/1$bill.jpg


Controlling people with implant symbols:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/files/2011/04/hitler-crowd.jpg

Manly P. Hall, 33rd degree Freemason and one of the most influential occultists of the last century, wrote this of
symbols, “They are centers of a mighty force, figures pregnant with an awful power…” (Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, p. 356)

http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/files/2011/04/hitler-nazi-march.jpg

http://www.germaniainternational.com/images2/Flags/Long_NS_Flag/MVC-011S_lg.jpg

[TrumanCash]

FEMA is staging a full-scale "zombie UFO crash (http://www.infowars.com/fema-censors-information-about-bizarre-zombie-ufo-crash-exercise/)" drill in Moscow, Idaho in April:

http://www.infowars.com/fema-censors-information-about-bizarre-zombie-ufo-crash-exercise/

Simon Parke's ET contact said that the US is planning an alien invasion false flag (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=606574&viewfull=1#post606574) event this year to usher in the NWO:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=606574&viewfull=1#post606574

I asked Simon where he got that information and he responded here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=606905&viewfull=1#post606905):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=606905&viewfull=1#post606905

Also, as many of you may know Bill Cooper stated that one of the possible plans that he was aware of was to stage a false flag alien invasion to bring in the NWO.

TLC

[Chester]

I swear to "xyz" I just said to myself, where the heck has Truman been?? Just seconds after I ordered LRH's book "Self Analysis" and so I go look for your thread (a thread that should be in the Priority Threads section Mods!!) and WoW!, you just posted... hahaha.

Thanks for staying with wookiees like me, Chester

[TrumanCash]

Gordon Duff, a military intelligence insider, has been saying many things lately about government involvement with ETs, some of which I can validate as being true. Here is a short audio interview in which Gordon mentions a planned (false) ET event or disclosure (false flag attack?), underground base tech, energy weapon tech, planned colonization of Earth by ETs, etc. on the Mike Harris show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOzHz3dvKiM

In that video he states: "The people of the United States are going to at some time be made aware, in the most falsified terms imaginable, that there is an alien presence on this planet."

Here is an interview with Kerry Cassidy who discusses Gordon Duff's recent statements:

Hour one: http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/mike_harris/hr1032213.mp3 (starts at 25:45 minutes into the show)

Hour two: http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/mike_harris/hr2032213.mp3

Gordon Duff also talked about ETs, etc. on the Jeff Rense show on March 12 (hour 2) and March 26 (hour 2), but you have to subscribe to access the archives at www.Rense.com.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Obama called for a "civilian national security force" as big as the military: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak

It's now in Seattle:

http://ogdaa.blogspot.com/2013/04/seattle-is-under-federal-control.html

[Hervé]

I would like to know if Truman is going to keep us informed on this...

... me too :)




[...]

I would want some clarification on this and would like to put the references.Check "Invader Forces" in the "Tech Dictionary" available here as a PDF (http://e-meter-star.com/books.files/TECHDICT.PDF) (<--- right click, ---> "Save as").

There are also these tit-bits excerpted from the R&D Volumes:


p. 381, vol.10
We have gone through a great cycle here on the track: a cycle of electronics, thought, electronics thought. For instance, now and then through history we have tried to regain our periods of being theta beings and controlling things thetawise. You see theta rising up every time you see a highly aesthetic society come into being. And then you see it deteriorate from that high aesthetic down into a MEST society, and it starts going to pieces at this time. And you see the Tone Scale repeated over and over, but this Tone Scale and this cycle is between thought/aesthetics and electronics/MEST force. Thought band aesthetics, they contain such things as spiritualism, mysticism, magic, these various things. And MEST force and so forth contains standard religious of the past, guillotines, so on.

People are people. You are the people, whether you were the thought people or the electronic people.

27 June 1952 :Confusion; vol. 11
Segment of the Whole Track = Genetic line - photon, helper, sloth, piltdown, New Yorker. Space Opera - electronic people, thought people ( Ɵ bodies, magicians).

Theta (Ɵ) body: This aura, this shell, whatever you call it, that goes around MEST bodies.

An Invader Force is an electronic people. The electronic people usually happen to be an evolutionary line which is on heavy gravity planets and, so, develop electronics. At some time along the line it took off, in its youth, to conquer the whole MEST universe. Physical forms: any that matched the earlier purpose of this group. They’ve usually got some gimmick like Fac One. Control has been the main thing: The way to control territory is to control people.

There are 5 Invader Forces active. Some of you hit the track 60 trillion years ago -- MEST universe -- and some of you didn't get into the MEST universe until 3 trillion years ago : That's Invader Force 1 and Invader Force 2. We don't see anything of Invader Force 3 here on Earth. Invader Force 4 is really holding the fort some place or other (e.g., Mars).

vol. 11
Electronics - whether it's thought or otherwise, it just makes 2 classifications of people. Because you'll find they battle. And you'll see this fight going on right now in modern engineering. You go around to a modern engineering lab and you say to these people: “Now, you take the human mind...” and they say: "you take it!" They don't like it.

And you'll find thought people who go around - and you go around to them and you say: "Hey, here is this electronic gadget..." And they say: "Nyaaw! What!" They don't want anything to do with this.

This same person at some phase of his development was a thought person and at some other phase was an electronics person. But what he has in restimulation in this life is his thought phase or his electronics phase, and so he will react adversely to thought or electronics... so has randomity appeared in the past.

Now, way back along the line, you'll find various strange and terrible things happening to people and don't overlook the fact that they did strange and terrible things. Now, here is the first point of confusion in these techniques: who was "they"?

Who was "they"?


YOU!


The villain in the piece was you [fighting the other 1/2 of the universe]. The hero in the piece was you! The people who were on neither side, that was you too. In other words, you want to know who did it to you, well, you did. Nobody did it to you but you.

You talk about drama. Well, don't be amazed at anything your preclear comes up with... and you'll find out that there are various peoples as part of Invader Force One (60 trillions years ago = old timers). Have been on the track for an awful long time. The reason you say invader force at all is because at some time along the line, fairly early in its youth, it took off to conquer the whole MEST universe: gobble, glop. And you succeeded, of course, until Invader Force II came along and you got rickety. And by that time you'd probably evolved into this and that or changed into thought people or taken up religion or gone into monasteries or something of the sort because of overt acts. You became a thought people. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere - and without any provocation from you... of course! - Invader Force II suddenly showed up, gunned you down, manhandled you, kicked you over, put you into bodies, made slaves out of you who had been emperors and kings, and Invader Force II which you represent.

Then you, as a thought person, suddenly made into a slave, would cruise along for a while and one day you'd be sitting in this society and somebody would get this wonderful idea that this is the way you ought to put electronics together so they go "boom!" or so they fly out the tail end of a jet or so that they form up antigravity repulsers or something - somebody gets a big idea about electronics, and there you go. And you're out and way out in space and zingity-bang and over to the next planet, or the next continent even. And you gun them down and you set up the same sort of situations out of desperation, because the second you start to run into a thought people who don't have any MEST bodies, you say: "this is very unhandy” and you make sure they have MEST bodies right soon. (dramatization of earlier incident on the track).

So, you've been in and out of bodies. You've been thought people, you've been this, you've been that. You've been sheep, goats, spaceness, space officers; you've been governors, kings, princes, ditch diggers, slaves, glaziers, carpenters, bricklayers, amusement park barkers, operators. You have turned planets into parks and parks into cinders. You, at one time or another on the track, have had weapons in your hands of sufficient magnitude to just say: "Boom!" and the whole planet goes. And sometimes you didn't care whether you used it or not. Interesting.

Now if they're an experienced invader force, they've got it all rigged. It'll run off by rote. They'll pick up these people one by one and they'll say: "Well, you've got to come over here and register. And of course the fellow walks over, registers. A light flashes, the guy's past life, everything about him, goes out; he remembers no more. Sometimes this fellow turns around and walks back to his own group and says: "Nothing happened." and the next guy and the next guy.

Or they'll come in and they'll sell all the aristocracy in the area the idea that "This is the way you can really control these people. Now, we are going to put weapons of control in your hands. Now, just step right up, sign here. Next one!" They get the aristocracy under control and control the people from there. In other words, control has been the main thing. How do you control territory? The way you control territory is control people.

Well, now, as far as reality of this stuff is concerned, it has not generally been accepted here on Earth that such things existed. But I noticed that we have what's known as science fiction here on Earth. And, noticing it many, many years ago, I thought "This is good gag", so I wrote lots of it. You wouldn't dare write real science fiction - not real science fiction. Nobody's guts could take it, that's all there is to that.

If you want to know something about cold blooded brutality and why people here on Earth are so completely, horribly fixated on "let's be kind", and "Let's get it organized one way or the other", it is the utter, brutal disregard for beingness which you find throughout the systems. What you have here and consider humanitarian and so forth is a very interestingly built-up system. There's a caste system which is exercised in other parts of the solar system which would appal the most viciously minded duke (Sade, marquis de) who ever lived on Earth. There's slavery, and what men are put to in that slavery... how men are treated and so forth.

So, you're looking around for brutality and what's mauling your preclear around and why he's in apathy and so forth - you'd better readjust your sights again as to what it takes to aberrate a being. It takes plenty! Takes a terrific magnitude of incident to do anything to a thetan - up in the billion volt category.

p. 74, vol. 11
The first force that came in had what they called their "Home Universe". And that's all they answer up to: Home universe. They were all happy and so forth and everything was fine. The next thing you know: Bang! Everything went to the devil and they were in the MEST universe and they had a bad time, and they finally got up and got things going and finally developed into an invader force of their own and started mopping up the old boys, whoever was there first.

But you see, the oldest race that we have track of, here on Earth, knows themselves to be the 1st race. They consider these other races minor ones. Keep telling them the only one that's going to win this game is the jester (Le Fou - Tarot)

p. 72
There was some sort of an idea that they had to get this universe fixed up, in order, because their own universe was going to pieces. And then their own universe is sort of merged with this universe and they'd rather not really get this one fixed up. They're very inefficient people. They're gone. It's just dead. That's the 4th race.



THE ROLE OF THE EARTH ; November 1952

I took a little girl one night during a demonstration and put her on the E-Meter - started questioning her and the next thing you knew this little girl was shaking in such a degree that the chair legs were rattling against the floor - I was going at her about something just to show the class what the series of questions would be about current life - and she said: "You mustn't ask me any questions. You mustn't ask me any questions. You mustn't. You mustn't. You mustn't."

"Where are you?"

"I am sitting before a big panel... I didn't use to sit there - I am sitting there right now. This - that's me. I - I sit in front of this panel. This is my job! This is my job. I am not supposed to tell you what my job is, but there's this panel." and so forth.

I said: "It's a communicator switchboard"

"No-ooo!" and she just starts going on .

I said: "Well, you wouldn't mind telling me the codes that go across the panel..." and she passed right straight on out. She'd never heard of bodies in pawn or other governments or invader forces or anything of the sort. So I snapped her around and carried on with the rest of the questioning, and was simply able to do so because I happened to know - this is a very funny thing to say - but I happen to know her commanding officer! And gave her - silly, isn't it - and gave her the messages which had gone across her panel an hour before, at which moment she quieted down.

And she says: "Well, I'll probably be taken all to pieces in the morning". And so I said: "No, you will not be." And she wasn't. But she was a communicator who was running a communications switchboard. She's a communicator in a system known as the space stations.
Now, when one considers Avalon's banner:

"... where science and spirituality meet."


... it's nothing less than reconciling "Thought people" and "Electronic people"...

[Hervé]

The conclusion I can reach on this "Matrix Revealed" thread so far, and in light of the different ET races operating on Earth is that the purpose of the mantis beings and every invader force is the conquest of the physical universe, and the way to control the universe is to control people, and the mantids have very powerful implanting machines to pursue the control of populations, so, the future for planet Earth is a battle between the freedom seeking beings (us) and the control freak invader forces in the framework of the New World Order....

[...]

For a different perspective on the "Mantid," if you haven't already run into it, see Simon Parkes' (members only, i.e. one may need to go past "provisional member") thread:

Simon Parkes about Mantis Aliens, Reptiles and other aliens. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.)

As for implanting... it's a little more advanced than "Brain heterodyining (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan)/entrainment" (but same principle) with "Bodies in pawn":


p. 52, R&D vol. 11
A theta (Ɵ) body can be hypnotized, can be put to sleep, can go to sleep, can be made to forget, can be given hypnotic suggestions, can be lowered on the Tone Scale, raised on the Tone Scale, can have its identity blotted out. In Fac One, for instance, the waves that are hitting a MEST body and piling up, but where they are really piling up is against the outer shell of the theta body. And that MEST body is long dead and you're no longer even vaguely connected with the somatic evolutionary line of those bodies you had in Fac One, but you're still packing this with the theta body and it's still aberrative.

P. 53
In other words, that the theta body can be aberrated by electronic fields, by drugs, by other contact against the MEST body or against itself. It can be handled, actually, when it's by itself, only with heavy electronic fields. Nothing can hit it.

A body in pawn utilizes not the thetan but ridges (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&p=678067&viewfull=1#post678067). They'll take a thetan and they'll build up ridges; and these ridges (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&p=678067&viewfull=1#post678067) will act like personalities, and because their wavelength is known, they can be monitored. [same way "Satanic" cults (e.g. "Skull & Bones (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26195-POLICE-STATE-How-it-came-about-in-the-US-of-A)") and CIA MKultra manufactured "sleepers" and other multiple personalities in their subjects]

So you'll very often run into entities. And there are a certain number of entities and they're in a certain order and so on, and they act like beings in a person, but they are not beings. And you want to know how to get rid of an entity. [see book "What to Audit" = Scientology, A History of Man]

How do you get rid of an entity? You simply find out where that entity is located in the body geographically. Your next step is to find out where the entity is stuck on the Time Track [psycho]. And you'll find out that it's some sort of an incident having to do with a body in pawn, it'll be a between-lives implant; it'll be something on this order.

It may be that you will find that the person during an operation has suddenly conceived that he is dead, has reported back in [the terminus of the "white light tunnel" reported by NDEs' experiencers who are told to "go back"]; he obviously was not dead, and what they did was layout one of his ridges - which he took right along with him, of course - lay onto one of his ridges the fact that he mustn't know and mustn't tell [incident at the dentist chair when LRH's heart stopped and was feared to be dead when a teenager. He came back to life with the words "Don't let him know" hanging in his mind].

Very often, when he appeared back in a body with the violence of pain of an accident or something of this sort, he killed the body in pawn to which he was very nebulously attached while he was here.

Mars: They're guilty of tremendous overt acts themselves. They've got a holding operation; they have no method of attacks (Their fleet of space ships was knocked down by the fifth invader force, the tales from India and the dragons in the skies). They have been influencing via the mind for so long that they've actually lost initiative to do anything else. Some guard has been walking past some cell where there's a body in pawn, and all of a sudden this body stirs. Bodies are not supposed to do that. So he says: "Oh oh, somebody just died." But it doesn't stir the way a body stirs when it just died. Probably a few years ago they said: "Oh, some damn hypnotist... Nobody will believe him anyway." They didn't do too much about it. But that's not the case here in the last year or so. They've been fascinated.

You'll find an occasional body in pawn from the 5th Invader Force and when you do, it'll be on a different proposition because it's monitored by consent; the guy is here with a comm line set up. And he's almost in a state of knowingness concerning exactly where he came from and what he's doing. Bodies in pawn both on Mars and on Venus are monitored electronically.

You can take a preclear and coax him to knock off a body in pawn. It's really not much of a shock because, you see, he's not in that body. He's just nebulously monitored by that body, because somebody can walk in, stir up the body, give the body a command, and he himself will perceive the command. This is a relay system of ridges [like radio transmitters].

Now, if you get rid of one of those things, run out the point where the ridge is stuck on the time track. You just run it out as an incident. You ask the preclear to move into that area of his body and push on through the incident as though it happened to him. And he will tell you in a moment or two: "But this didn't happen to me; this is just lying there." Up to that time he thought it happened to him. It didn't really. What it was, was a facsimile laid down on one of his ridges. And you will find that as many as 5 or more bodies in pawn are being held here and there throughout the universe for one preclear.

As far as a theta being very badly implanted is concerned, how can you implant an energy unit? It's a question in which you should be awfully interested. Because you can't. You can give it some ridges, but it can always move out from amongst these ridges.

And merely as an aside, in order to protect your preclear against suddenly having nightmares or something of the sort - regardless of whether you believe it or not or place any credence in it or not - just encourage him to knock off those bodies that he has that are extra bodies elsewhere. It's not that it's merely upsetting to the Martian's regime; it is not that it is very effective in restoring his health, but you certainly cannot expect an individual who is pinned down someplace and can be put under pain from a remote distance, to become clear [PTS... the SPs being "out there"] So just encourage him to knock them off. All they do is use the phenomenon of ridges you see, and they throw a facsimile into play on that ridge, and the person can be monitored.

PTS: stands for "Potential Trouble Source;" that is, someone under the influence/control of an SP.

SP: stands for "Suppressive Person;" that is your run-of-the-mill psychopath/robot.


By the way, cuitlahuac, WELCOME to Avalon!

[william r sanford72]

Gald to see ya back Amzer Zo.

[Hervé]

Hi cuitlahuac,

A little trick you may not know is that when a word, title or expression is in bolded blue letter, it usually indicates that it's a hyperlink and when one clicks on it, one is directed to the reference article or post... hence, I gave various definitions of "Ridge (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&p=678067&viewfull=1#post678067)" at the bottom of the post the bolded blue word links to :)






p. 52, R&D vol. 11
[...]

A body in pawn utilizes not the thetan but ridges (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&p=678067&viewfull=1#post678067). They'll take a thetan and they'll build up ridges; and these ridges (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&p=678067&viewfull=1#post678067) will act like personalities, and because their wavelength is known, they can be monitored. [same way "Satanic" cults (e.g. "Skull & Bones (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26195-POLICE-STATE-How-it-came-about-in-the-US-of-A)") and CIA MKultra manufactured "sleepers" and other multiple personalities in their subjects]
[...][...]


Now, regarding that gem from Truman, from the text, it appears that mantis beings are implanters which could lead to the interpretation that the entire race is like that...

Now, if there is one thing one can learn from the history of dramatizations (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50868-David-Icke-Has-Been-Talking-About-Jimmy-Savile-For-Years&p=577920&viewfull=1#post577920) on Earth, it's that the main incentives for getting men to battles and wars; were/are loots, rapes and... slaves made of captured enemies... beside an increase in controlled territories.

Simon Parkes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.) gives a glimpse of such behavior for the ETs he was/is in contact with so that in the end, one doesn't know whether one is dealing with a bona fide, original m*tha' f**ka' or an enslaved one as Franz Erdl (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=594008&viewfull=1#post594008) found out.... the outer shell doesn't indicate how many Russian dolls are hiding inside :)

[Hervé]

Here is the LRH lecture from which some of the transcripts I posted are coming from:

The Role of Earth: http://rutube.ru/video/42a32f8e6c5e9fc007d7b32bac197a57/

[TrumanCash]

I have decided to contribute more posts to this thread as I have been gathering data and expanding my awareness of the matrix. Consequently, I have had more realizations that I would like to share regarding analysis and solutions to the matrix.

For those who are wondering--I am still free of abductions. I have explained how I accomplished this in previous posts.

Truman L Cash

[Limor Wolf]

I have decided to contribute more posts to this thread as I have been gathering data and expanding my awareness of the matrix. Consequently, I have had more realizations that I would like to share regarding analysis and solutions to the matrix.

For those who are wondering--I am still free of abductions. I have explained how I accomplished this in previous posts.

Truman L Cash

Hello TrumanCash, I am towards the end of your first book and towards the beginning of the second one. I would very much be interested to hear your realizations and understandings of the Matrix reality that we are emersed in and your suggested solutions. It is a pleasent news to know that your methods are working for you and for others, I will look up for it, would you also include the military in your general term of abduction, or is the reference is stricted only for pure Alien abductions?

Thank you very much for your presence here and contributing your knowledge, welcome back

Limor

[TrumanCash]

Thanks, Limor. As you can read in THE EYE OF RA, I have had two abductions where both US military and grays worked together.

TLC



I have decided to contribute more posts to this thread as I have been gathering data and expanding my awareness of the matrix. Consequently, I have had more realizations that I would like to share regarding analysis and solutions to the matrix.

For those who are wondering--I am still free of abductions. I have explained how I accomplished this in previous posts.

Truman L Cash

Hello TrumanCash, I am towards the end of your first book and towards the beginning of the second one. I would very much be interested to hear your realizations and understandings of the Matrix reality that we are emersed in and your suggested solutions. It is a pleasent news to know that your methods are working for you and for others, I will look up for it, would you also include the military in your general term of abduction, or is the reference is stricted only for pure Alien abductions?

Thank you very much for your presence here and contributing your knowledge, welcome back

Limor

[spiritwind]

Hello Truman Cash,

I was hoping you would return sometime with updated information. I have been following Simon’s thread for about a year and a half and at the time I didn’t think of myself as any kind of an experiencer. But it turns out I have had some very anomalous experiences since I was a child that, upon deeper examination, have got me to thinking along a whole different line. In fact, all the people closest to me fall into this category and old memories are taking on new meanings. As a result of my personal trip down memory lane I read both of your books that you so graciously posted for us and that again opened other doors.

It was very weird to read about the experiences you shared as I have lived all over the Spokane area, from Newport, Elk, and Chattaroy, to Airway Heights off and on for over 35 years. Every time I move away I end up back here! I had contemplated hypnosis but I keep hearing there are better ways to recover memories. It would be great if I could find someone local here. The weirdness seems to be picking up these days so I’m motivated to wake up as quick as I can without freaking myself out too bad. I’ve had to let go of more cherished beliefs I didn’t realize I had and it does sometimes feel like the ground is disappearing. Thank you for sharing yours and other’s stories as it really does help everyone else who is now in this process of waking up to the realization, it ain’t no dream, we really are in THE MATRIX!

[TrumanCash]

Yes, there are better ways than hypnosis to recover occluded memories. I have used both hypnotic and non-hypnotic techniques so I have established a basis of comparison from personal experience.

In the following series of posts I am going to cover not only memory retrieval techniques that I have used to disable mental implants, but also other phenomena that must be addressed in order for beings to collectively evolve out of the matrix.

Mental implants (also called brainwashing or mind control) are the glue that holds the matrix together. Therefore, disabling these insidious implants are the first step to be taken to free beings from the matrix. However, as I will show in the following posts, I must stress that it is just the first step.

The definition of implant in the context that I am now using is "to firmly fix in the mind". As I covered in my books, there are basically two types of mental implants--psychological implants and social implants.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Psychological implants are created by first rendering a being unconscious and then embedding the programming, usually without the consent of the being. Another words, the mind could be compared to a computer and unbeknownst to the computer operator (the spiritual being) a virus is implanted in the computer. The virus then adversely affects both the computer (mind) and the computer operator (spirit) because the operator is unaware of the virus. However, once the computer operator becomes aware of the virus, he or she can identify it and remove or disable it.

There are many such implants that took place in past lives and in-between lives. There are specific implants that were given to and are held in common by most of the inhabitants of Earth as well as the "ETs" who are the hidden source of the "New World Order". This explains why there is so much war, chaos and insanity on this planet. A modern example of psychological implants is the CIA's MKUltra mind control program. The unconsciousness inherent in psychological implants can be created by using raw high-voltage electricity, high-tech ET psychotronics, hypnotism (if the subject is highly suggestible), torture, or brute force such as a blow to the head.

Psychological implants are relatively easy to disable once one has the know-how to do so. It follows the spiritual principle that the truth can set one free. Since psychological implants are created when the being is unconscious and unaware, one only needs to restore the awareness of what actually happened by recalling or re-experiencing the original incident while one is in an alert and aware state. This transfers the programming (virus) from the unconscious part of the mind to the conscious part of the mind where one can evaluate and analyze it for what it is. In the process of doing this the trauma (electrical "charge") associated with the incident is dissipated.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Social implants are very different from psychological implants because the being is conscious and aware and the programming is accepted voluntarily with full consent. Examples of social programming are choosing to blindly follow the edicts of a church, religion, government or a political party. From the very first day of birth into this world and into our bodies we are inculcated with the programming of the "reality" of other beings.

The solution to disabling social implants is simple: Question your programming and above all QUESTION AUTHORITY!

In other words do not allow other beings to determine what your reality should be or to do your thinking for you. Only through truth seeking and expanding awareness can one achieve more freedom from the matrix. The more individuals seek truth, expand awareness and question authority, the more freedom will manifest at the societal level because society is composed of individuals.

Social implants are often established and reinforced by psychological implants. This is especially applicable to religious beliefs, as I have revealed in THE EYE OF RA. Therefore, to fully disable social implants, past life, in-between lives and sometimes present lifetime psychological implants must also be addressed.

TLC

[sunflower]

As regards the question: What does the marcabians have to do with the matrix? one answer might be in the book The Pied Pipers of Heaven, by L. Kin. This apparently has to do with confidential scientology materials, so I just put the name of the book:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517ZHVQC0FL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

About Ghosts, Demons, Gods, Angels, Shamans, Gurus, Occultists, Magicians, Cosmic Powers, Secret Lodges, Scientologists, UFOs, Extraterrestrials, Galactic
Confederations and Conspiracies against Planet Earth.


PDF's of books by L.Kin can be found here:

http://fzba.chat.ru/lkin.html

[TrumanCash]

I have been getting numerous requests for more information about the research tools and memory retrieval techniques that I used. In my last three posts (about psychological & social implants) I have been setting the stage, so to speak, to write in more detail about the memory retrieval techniques that I used in my research and for personal enhancement. I will be devoting the next series of posts to this subject and related matters.

I therefore ask that all questions and comments follow this stream of thought so as not to side track this portion of this thread onto unrelated topics.

Thank you,
TLC

[TrumanCash]

As I have previously mentioned, I have used both hypnotic and non-hypnotic techniques to recover occluded memories from past lives, abductions and in-between lives incidents. The hypnotic method that I used was what I would call "light trance hypnosis". I was not in any kind of state in which I could not evaluate what the hypnotist was saying and what I was looking at in my past. In fact, I almost corrected the hypnotist at one point because she was giving me a leading question. I was totally conscious during these sessions. There were four or five sessions that were video-taped. The purpose of these sessions was simply to validate the information that I had retrieved with non-hypnotic techniques concerning my lifetime as an Egyptian pharaoh and my contacts with Ra and Ptah. I was also attempting to get more details from those incidents, two of which were validated by Zecharia Sitchin.

The light trance hypnosis did reveal a few more details but it did not feel good to me at all. It was rather uncomfortable. I therefore prefer the non-hypnotic techniques. Also, I should note that hypnosis can be quite detrimental for suggestible people. I'm not hypnotically very suggestible so I was not able to receive any inadvertent post hypnotic suggestions. I do not recommend hypnosis as it is not necessary for memory retrieval and can be harmful for suggestible people and in the wrong hands. As anyone who has witnessed stage hypnotism can attest, it can be used to control others without their knowledge and to create amnesia.

TLC

[Sebastion]

I like the direction you are going in Truman and I will be reading what you have to say very carefully. Thank you in advance!

[TrumanCash]

I am going to open up a can of worms in the following posts because the non-hypnotic techniques that I used were discovered by the controversial founder of Dianetics and Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard.

I am a truth seeker; I am not a Scientologist nor am I promoter of Dianetics or the corporate "church" of $cientology, but the fact remains that Hubbard did, in fact, discover some very useful information about the mind, spirit and the nature of reality. He was right about many things, but he was also wrong about many things. As Bill Ryan has stated, he was a "flawed" man. I agree. Here is Bill Ryan's thread on this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&highlight=bill+scientology

I use the word "discover" because Hubbard did not "invent" these techniques--It is simply how the mind works. I used the techniques from DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH and SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL to conduct the research with abductees contained in my two books on the subject.

One does not have to read Hubbard's books or take a course at the Church of $cientology to learn these techniques. I must warn people to steer clear of the "church" of $cientology because it has been taken over by a sociopath and subsequently many people have been leaving the corporate "church" that will drain your bank account and mess you up. (More on this later.)

There are "independent Scientologists" or "FreeZone auditors" outside of the "church" of $cientology. They can be contacted if one wants to use Scientology techniques. Bill Ryan has listed some links on post #237, page 12 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59276-Q-and-A-about-Ron-Hubbard-Bill-Robertson-Scientology-the-Free-Zone-Ron-s-Org-Planet-Earth.-Jim-and-the-Future&p=679572&viewfull=1#post679572) of the aforementioned thread.

One can also learn the same techniques through the "Traumatic Incident Reduction Association" (TIR), which has no connection to the church of $cientology. I have been told by a psychotherapist who has been trained in these techniques that TIR is recognized by establishment psychologists. (www.tir.org; www.tirbooks.org)

TLC

[TrumanCash]

I am leading up to a very interesting example in the "church" of $cientology that demonstrates the difference between psychological implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785295&viewfull=1#post785295) and social implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785302&viewfull=1#post785302) and how they must each be addressed in order to evolve out of the matrix in which we live.

However, I should first explain a bit about L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology for those who have not had first-hand experience. There is a lot of disinformation on the subject on the internet posted by people who have not had any direct experience so it is difficult to sort out accurate information from the plethora of disinformation. I have had a great deal of direct experience and have personally known many people who have achieved the more advanced levels, so I will share my knowledge and viewpoints on the matter.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

L. Ron Hubbard first published DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH in 1950 wherein he wrote at length about the state of "clear". I have met people who allegedly achieved that state in their previous lifetime as early as 1947. So what does it mean to be "clear"?

In the Dianetics book Hubbard paints a somewhat exaggerated picture of the traits of a clear including someone who never catches a cold. My first rude awakening on this matter occurred when I observed a "clear" with a cold. There are some positive benefits in using Dianetics and Scientology technology, but clears may occasionally get a cold.

Basically, a "clear", IMO, is mostly a marketing gimmick used by Hubbard to make a lot of money and achieve power. I have known numerous "clears" and they are no different than most people. There is no actual state of clear from my observation. It was deemed that I was a "natural clear" (whatever that is).

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Ron Hubbard organized the auditing steps to attain the state of clear and beyond into what he called "The Bridge to Total Freedom". Above clear on "the Bridge" are the OT levels. "OT" stands for "Operating Thetan". "Thetan" is Hubbard's word for spiritual being. According to ex-Scientologist Mark "Marty" Rathbun, Hubbard only wrote up levels to OT VIII. On the OT levels one learns how to use telepathy and remote viewing. This is how I was able to escape abduction and implantation by Grays.

For more information on the various levels of auditing read Marty Rathbun's book WHAT IS WRONG WITH SCIENTOLOGY? Here is a very interesting video analysis of what is wrong with Scientology by Marty Rathbun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4obDinXpsZs

TLC

[TrumanCash]

In my view the Bridge to Total Freedom is more wishful thinking than anything else. Total freedom is a paradox. That is, if one is totally free then one would be free to do anything, including harming others. Of course, when one harms others then "the others" will either retaliate by harming you or capture and isolate/imprison you, so you would no longer be free. Therefore, freedom must carry certain responsibilities and rules (i.e., restrictions on freedom) to include not harming others. Some may consider the exception of self-defense.

To me "the Bridge" is more about increasing one's abilities, awareness and discovering who one is as a spiritual being while peeling away all that one is not.

It is important to note that Hubbard as a man and Hubbard's policies and actions are a completely different matter than the technical discoveries that he made regarding the mind and spirit. These discoveries were made with the help of many other people. I have found that nothing is all black or all white--we live in a gray area (pun intended). And so it is with L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. I choose not to throw out the baby with the bath water. One can extract that which is beneficial while discarding that which is not.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Now to get down to what I have been leading up to:

I want to draw attention to an occurrence within the church of $cientology that demonstrates that the "Bridge", by itself, does not lead to "total freedom". This occurrence demonstrates that the disabling of past life psychological implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785295&viewfull=1#post785295), though beneficial, is not enough to break the matrix.

Anyone can watch numerous YouTube testimonies about the sociopathic leader of the Church of $cientology, David Miscavige, who repeatedly and routinely beat up church staff members. Some staff members, such as Debbie Cook, have testified under oath to verify David Miscavige's violent, oppressive behavior. Other whistleblowers and escapees from the "church" include Mike Rinder, Marty Rathbun, Marc Headley, Claire Headley, Amy Scobee, Nancy Many, Jeff Hawkins, Jenna Miscavige, Gerry Armstrong, and many others.

Miscavige imprisoned many high-level executive staff members in a building referred to as "the hole" at the international headquarters near Hemet, California. These staff members ended up actually torturing and beating each other in order to extract "confessions". What is significant about this tragedy is that these people were amongst the most advanced Clears/OTs on the Bridge with decades of experience and training in Hubbard's policies. They had received extensive training on how to detect a "suppressive person" ("SP") or "antisocial personality", which is often equated by church members with a sociopath or psychopath. They had disabled past life psychological implants in auditing. In spite of this they were still vulnerable to social implantation by a sociopath. They were about as far away from "total freedom" as one can get.

This tragedy demonstrates how both psychological implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785295&viewfull=1#post785295) and social implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785302&viewfull=1#post785302) must be dealt with and handled in order to free beings from the matrix. Hubbard's "antisocial personality" technology was not enough to thwart a smooth-talking sociopath, David Miscavige, from overthrowing a worldwide organization. He also has adversely altered the beneficial part of Scientology, the auditing technology. Consequently, an increasing number of people are leaving the so-called church after having their bank accounts drained without obtaining the benefits of auditing. Fewer people are becoming church members because of the truth being exposed on the internet and in the media.

I have a side note that I would like to share about David Miscavige. I have a friend who is a very experienced auditor. This auditor informed me that he has thus far audited three individuals at different times with auditing that addresses past associations with suppressive persons. Each of these three individuals identified David Miscavige as a suppressive person in a past life incident. What is more astounding is that they each described (independently) the same past life incident!

It should also be noted that David Miscavige was directly connected to L. Ron Hubbard as a member of the "Commodore's Messenger Org", who are people that represent L. Ron Hubbard and have direct contact with him. It appears that even L. Ron Hubbard could not discern that David Miscavige was a sociopath. It should also be noted that it was L. Ron Hubbard's policies that set the stage for Miscavige to lead the organization down a long, dark path.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that one of the missing elements to solving the problem of social implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785302&viewfull=1#post785302) is to QUESTION AUTHORITY. Hubbard never really taught that. In fact, per Hubbard's policies, it was not allowed in the church. Anyone who questioned authority or spoke the truth could eventually be declared a "suppressive person" and thrown out, often resulting in permanent disconnection from family and friends who stayed in the church. I am a "suppressive person" by Hubbard's own policies.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

The purpose of this portion of the Matrix Revealed thread is not to attack Scientology, but to use it as an example to illustrate how social implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785302&viewfull=1#post785302) and sociopaths play an integral role in the matrix.

We will not evolve out of the matrix and establish freedom unless we:

1) constantly seek truth;

2) end blind, unquestioning obedience to "authority", whether it be a person, government, religion, church, business or organization;

3) learn how to recognize and handle true sociopaths (without initiating witch hunts).

I would like to hear from other Avalon members regarding the above points in relation to breaking the matrix and achieving a stable level of optimal freedom.

TLC

[ThoughtPulse]

i think a study of magick would be beneficial to those wanting to break the matrix.

[spiritwind]

Well, I went for my first session with a TIR (Traumatic Incident Reduction) facilitator yesterday that was recommended to me. From my understanding, this technique helps identify and release the charge held in the body from traumatic experiences and can also be useful in retrieving memories. It was very interesting. I’ve only had hypnosis once, almost 20 years ago, and did not really go all the way under; it was more like a kind of relaxed dream like state. So I can’t offer any comparison and I know nothing about Dianetics other than what I have read here.

So, in my case, we went with one of my earliest memories and by repeatedly going back over the same memory I was able to tease out more details. In fact, as we did this my memory of what took place actually completely changed from one thing to another. It was very weird, for me anyway. I mean, to hold a particular memory as a basis for something that actually happened (either way, my original memory and what it changed to were equally fantastic and out there) and then to begin to see, or for detail to emerge, that are entirely different than what you originally remembered is a strange thing. And what began to emerge is not at all what I would have liked to imagine (in fact, strange as it is, I liked my original memory better). Now what to do with this information? Also, an even earlier experience turns out to be related to the later experience (memory) in ways I could not have foreseen. I am going to go for another session to see where it goes but I can’t help but question how I know if what my mind is now showing me is anywhere near the truth.

I will say the facilitator does just that. I was simply guided/instructed to keep going back over the memory again and again and to follow it to the end. So, everything that came to me was from my own mind as far as I could tell. Other than my husband who I trust completely and knows me very well, I don’t think I will be sharing this with too many people in my life. I am quite certain they are not ready for this at all. I’ve certainly begun to realize I am not in Kansas anymore. If you try this technique out I would also recommend writing everything down or even taping it. I had trouble remembering the sequence and all the details even just writing it down when I got home. I probably should have written it down immediately.

I went to a new local meet-up group the day before to watch the movie “They Live”. It was just me and 4 other women and we had so many interesting experiences and information between us that we ended up just talking. One woman had actually had ET/abduction experiences in childhood and has conscious memories of some of them. What I thought was interesting though, was that when I talked about what I was planning to do the next day and why they all wanted to know what I hoped to get out of it, as if just knowing the truth isn’t enough of a reason. Even the woman who had been abducted (and wow, did she have some interesting pictures to share) didn’t seem all that interested in getting to the bottom of why she had been abducted her whole life. These were all great women, so don’t get me wrong, but this felt to me like kind of an example of “social implanting” and that almost knee jerk, if it’s bad or could be, I don’t want to know that we’re sometimes not even aware of. I have even been guilty of this myself. It’s like we want to know, but only so much. If it changes or threatens our prevailing world (belief system) view too much, then we tend to draw the line, maybe because if we really knew the truth we would have to change the way we interact with the world around us. As someone said to me recently, once you see/know/understand something you can’t turn around and not see/know/understand it. You will be forever changed.

Not to blab on, and this is kind of unrelated but not, but I think this is what happens with child physical and sexual abuse. I think we (as a whole) need to just get over our collective denial over what is really going on in our world. I know we have been programmed this way but we can change that and just start going the other way. If it means we each have to start taking more responsibility then so be it. It’s easy to not take action when you don’t know for absolute certain (let’s face it, for most of us it has to become personal) that something bad is happening, say, even next door to you. When you do know and don’t take action is when humanity fails itself. Just my humble opinion, for what it’s worth.

[Hervé]

[...]

... If you try this technique out I would also recommend writing everything down or even taping it. I had trouble remembering the sequence and all the details even just writing it down when I got home. I probably should have written it down immediately.

[...]

Well done on getting it done!

What you wrote, and I highlighted, is the whole point of a successful session: it's not "there" (weighing in on your mind) to bug you anymore!

[TrumanCash]

Thank you, Spiritwind, for sharing your insights in your wonderful, well-written post!

I especially related to "It’s like we want to know, but only so much. If it changes or threatens our prevailing world (belief system) view too much, then we tend to draw the line, maybe because if we really knew the truth we would have to change the way we interact with the world around us. As someone said to me recently, once you see/know/understand something you can’t turn around and not see/know/understand it. You will be forever changed."

This is similar to the Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull syndrome where people are so programmed and conditioned to stay with flock that they just skate on the surface of life, fearing to venture into deeper, unseen truths. It certainly takes some boldness and courage to break out of this built-in thought police aspect of the matrix and then actually walk the walk of what we now know. I think this is a good example of a psychological implant (from past lives and to which many beings have been subjected) which is subsequently reinforced as a social implant.

Thanks also for sharing your Traumatic Reduction Incident (TIR) session with us. One of the advantages of TIR is that it is acceptable to mainstream psychotherapy yet avoids the stigma of corporate Dianetics & Scientology while achieving good results. Unless the "Church" of $cientology is substantially reformed, there needs to be a viable alternative. I see a good future for TIR.

TLC




Well, I went for my first session with a TIR (Traumatic Incident Reduction) facilitator yesterday that was recommended to me. From my understanding, this technique helps identify and release the charge held in the body from traumatic experiences and can also be useful in retrieving memories. It was very interesting. I’ve only had hypnosis once, almost 20 years ago, and did not really go all the way under; it was more like a kind of relaxed dream like state. So I can’t offer any comparison and I know nothing about Dianetics other than what I have read here.

So, in my case, we went with one of my earliest memories and by repeatedly going back over the same memory I was able to tease out more details. In fact, as we did this my memory of what took place actually completely changed from one thing to another. It was very weird, for me anyway. I mean, to hold a particular memory as a basis for something that actually happened (either way, my original memory and what it changed to were equally fantastic and out there) and then to begin to see, or for detail to emerge, that are entirely different than what you originally remembered is a strange thing. And what began to emerge is not at all what I would have liked to imagine (in fact, strange as it is, I liked my original memory better). Now what to do with this information? Also, an even earlier experience turns out to be related to the later experience (memory) in ways I could not have foreseen. I am going to go for another session to see where it goes but I can’t help but question how I know if what my mind is now showing me is anywhere near the truth.

I will say the facilitator does just that. I was simply guided/instructed to keep going back over the memory again and again and to follow it to the end. So, everything that came to me was from my own mind as far as I could tell. Other than my husband who I trust completely and knows me very well, I don’t think I will be sharing this with too many people in my life. I am quite certain they are not ready for this at all. I’ve certainly begun to realize I am not in Kansas anymore. If you try this technique out I would also recommend writing everything down or even taping it. I had trouble remembering the sequence and all the details even just writing it down when I got home. I probably should have written it down immediately.

I went to a new local meet-up group the day before to watch the movie “They Live”. It was just me and 4 other women and we had so many interesting experiences and information between us that we ended up just talking. One woman had actually had ET/abduction experiences in childhood and has conscious memories of some of them. What I thought was interesting though, was that when I talked about what I was planning to do the next day and why they all wanted to know what I hoped to get out of it, as if just knowing the truth isn’t enough of a reason. Even the woman who had been abducted (and wow, did she have some interesting pictures to share) didn’t seem all that interested in getting to the bottom of why she had been abducted her whole life. These were all great women, so don’t get me wrong, but this felt to me like kind of an example of “social implanting” and that almost knee jerk, if it’s bad or could be, I don’t want to know that we’re sometimes not even aware of. I have even been guilty of this myself. It’s like we want to know, but only so much. If it changes or threatens our prevailing world (belief system) view too much, then we tend to draw the line, maybe because if we really knew the truth we would have to change the way we interact with the world around us. As someone said to me recently, once you see/know/understand something you can’t turn around and not see/know/understand it. You will be forever changed.

Not to blab on, and this is kind of unrelated but not, but I think this is what happens with child physical and sexual abuse. I think we (as a whole) need to just get over our collective denial over what is really going on in our world. I know we have been programmed this way but we can change that and just start going the other way. If it means we each have to start taking more responsibility then so be it. It’s easy to not take action when you don’t know for absolute certain (let’s face it, for most of us it has to become personal) that something bad is happening, say, even next door to you. When you do know and don’t take action is when humanity fails itself. Just my humble opinion, for what it’s worth.

[TrumanCash]

The memory retrieval methods that I used to help people recover abduction memories and past life memories are essentially the same as the Traumatic Incident Reduction (http://www.tir.org/about-tir.html) and Applied Metapsychology (http://www.tir.org/about-amp.html) techniques developed by Dr. Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.

"Dr. Gerbode began the development of Applied Metapsychology in the 1980s. It grew mainly out of the work of Carl Rogers and Sigmund Freud. In "Two Short Accounts of Psycho-Analysis", Freud describes a method to resolve sequences of similar traumas:"

"What left the symptom behind was not always a single experience. On the contrary, the result was usually brought about by the convergence of several traumas, and often by the repetition of a great number of similar ones. Thus it was necessary to reproduce the whole chain of pathogenic memories in chronological order, or rather in reversed order, that latest ones first and the earliest ones last; and it was quite impossible to jump over the later traumas in order to get back more quickly to the first, which was often the most potent one." [Source (http://www.tir.org/about-amp.html)]

Anyone can learn these techniques by attending a TIR workshop (http://www.tir.org/training/ws/tirw.html).

A TIR practitioner is called a "facilitator". A facilitator (http://www.tir.org/glossary.html#facilitator) is "a practitioner of Applied Metapsychology, including the use of TIR; a person using the process of viewing to help another; a person who helps another to perform the actions of viewing. A facilitator's function is to help the viewer to view his/her world and thereby to alleviate the emotional charge contained therein. We avoid the term, "therapist", because that term implies that something is done by one person to another, which is not the case in viewing. We also avoid the term "counselor", because the facilitator does not counsel the viewer about what to do in life."

If you would like to find a TIR facilitator, look here (http://www.tir.org/practitioners/index.html).

TLC

[TrumanCash]

The US gov actually lists TIR (http://www.tir.org/about-tir.html) as a "memory-based, therapeutic intervention" on this web page (http://nrepp.samhsa.gov/ViewIntervention.aspx?id=245).

TIR is listed in the National Registry of Evidence-based Programs and Practices (NREPP) (http://nrepp.samhsa.gov/AboutNREPP.aspx) which is connected to SAMHSA (http://beta.samhsa.gov/about-us) under the US Department of Health and Human Services.

"The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) (http://beta.samhsa.gov/about-us) is the agency within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that leads public health efforts to advance the behavioral health of the nation. SAMHSA's mission is to reduce the impact of substance abuse and mental illness on America's communities."

TLC

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi TrumanCash, I've caught up with your 'memory retrieval techniques' posting and very interesting so far :)

[spiritwind]

Hi Truman,

Thought I would just provide a quick update on my experience with TIR as a way of retrieving repressed memories. I went for my second session last Sunday. I was able to draw out more detail from my earlier session. For me it was easy to return to where we had left off but once I seemed to reach the limits of what I could “see” for lack of a better way to put it, I just couldn’t get anymore. I do know, at least now from my own personal experience, that when images or details emerged that I wasn’t expecting or totally prepared to see, my mind would try to deny it’s possibility and the image would then definitely become clearer, as if to say “Oh yes you do have to make room for this”. And the memory surfaced in an age appropriate manner. That is to say what made it seem the most valid for me was when I felt an incredible wave of what I actually felt at the time, with my nose so stuffed up from my fear and crying that I almost couldn’t breathe from the snot and felt like reaching for a kleenex even though I wasn’t stuffed up at all.

I ran into this from Mary Rodwell in an interview with Alex Tsakiris and I found this to be true as I was grappling with whether I may have just imagined what I saw:

I say, “The evidence is in the whole fact that they change as individuals. You don’t change after a hallucination. You don’t change after fantasies. But you do change after an experience and every single person after these experiences changes in a multitude of ways in terms of their understanding of their own spirituality, consciousness. Even in terms of their motivations and their focus. That is evidence of a reality even if you can’t make it any more tangible at its present time.”

I have to say I actually felt lighter somehow upon returning home to the point my husband noticed it too and other strong and clear mental images that have been popping into my consciousness for quite a while (as if now ready to come to the surface) begin to make more sense and I do feel more at ease. Some details did not become clearer unfortunately, like the particular face of a being I saw, as if it either found some way to obstruct my view of it, or was just too much for me to handle seeing just yet.

I must say it may be quite some long time before I share my experience/memories with my kids. They already know I just barely make it fitting into society as it is. This brings me to one last point. I can see why people are reluctant to share anything that doesn’t fit into our socially accepted paradigms. There is no doubt there is discrimination to be feared if you are at all worried what other people think.

[Ahnung-quay]

Having read through this thread, I have question Truman. Do you think or have knowledge that some implantation experiences that have been reported by people are of a benevolent nature?

I'm asking this question because I had an experience about seventeen years ago. It occurred when we were moving into a new home. We were putting light bulbs into the light fixtures. I think that there may have been an electrician there working on the breaker panel at the same time. I put some bulbs into the bathroom light fixture and went into the living room. In the living room I collapsed. Those who were present said I seized.

I remember going down and then seeing a light in a tunnel. I remember the feeling of wanting nothing more than to go to sleep. I don't know if I went toward the light or not. I do not remember anything except vaguely being aware that I was being loaded into an ambulance and taken to the ER. I remember bits and pieces of the ER and a later CT scan. But, I slept through most of it. The tests, including an EEG the next day, revealed nothing.

Now, the curious thing to me is that ever since that experience I have been on a search for the TRUTH. I was drawn to the Native American path which has included plenty of personal recapitulation, dreams, vision questing, medicine ceremonies, etc. The result is that I feel that I am now a much stronger person. I can now handle my emotions rather than letting them handle me. I am able to see through most of the B.S. of this system even more than some of my teachers. I know that there is a reality behind this reality. I feel that I'm now in position to help other beginning seekers through these native American ways.

Back to my original question,and I'll expand on it. Do you have any knowledge or experience that some of these implants may be beneficial to us and our enlightenment or that there are benevolent beings who are trying to help us to advance and get past the negative programming implants?

I'm interested in TIR techniques so that I may be able to retrieve some memories of this event. Alas, there are no practitioners in my area of the U.S. so, as I usually do, I'll have to research and start this process on my own.

[TrumanCash]

Having read through this thread, I have question Truman. Do you think or have knowledge that some implantation experiences that have been reported by people are of a benevolent nature?

I'm asking this question because I had an experience about seventeen years ago. It occurred when we were moving into a new home. We were putting light bulbs into the light fixtures. I think that there may have been an electrician there working on the breaker panel at the same time. I put some bulbs into the bathroom light fixture and went into the living room. In the living room I collapsed. Those who were present said I seized.

I remember going down and then seeing a light in a tunnel. I remember the feeling of wanting nothing more than to go to sleep. I don't know if I went toward the light or not. I do not remember anything except vaguely being aware that I was being loaded into an ambulance and taken to the ER. I remember bits and pieces of the ER and a later CT scan. But, I slept through most of it. The tests, including an EEG the next day, revealed nothing.

Now, the curious thing to me is that ever since that experience I have been on a search for the TRUTH. I was drawn to the Native American path which has included plenty of personal recapitulation, dreams, vision questing, medicine ceremonies, etc. The result is that I feel that I am now a much stronger person. I can now handle my emotions rather than letting them handle me. I am able to see through most of the B.S. of this system even more than some of my teachers. I know that there is a reality behind this reality. I feel that I'm now in position to help other beginning seekers through these native American ways.

Back to my original question,and I'll expand on it. Do you have any knowledge or experience that some of these implants may be beneficial to us and our enlightenment or that there are benevolent beings who are trying to help us to advance and get past the negative programming implants?

I'm interested in TIR techniques so that I may be able to retrieve some memories of this event. Alas, there are no practitioners in my area of the U.S. so, as I usually do, I'll have to research and start this process on my own.

You pose some very interesting questions. I cannot comment on your own personal experiences because only you can decide what they mean.

Dannion Brinkley is an example of a person who changed for the better after having NDE experiences. This sort of thing does happen.

However, one cannot disable negative implants by implanting "positive" post hypnotic suggestions. It is only when one views the negative implants that they are disabled. Similarly, one does not get rid of a computer virus by accepting additional "positive" viruses that mask the detrimental virus. You've got to find and identify the virus before it can be removed.

Many implants are designed to make one feel good or feel spiritual, etc. That is often the hook.

From my own personal experience it is the mantis beings who are running these NDE implant systems. The mantis beings abduct and implant people, thereby violating the universal law of consent. They are in cahoots with the grays and the human-looking ETs that I call the Serpent Staff Pleiadians (SSPs) who are the creators of the the god-worshipping religions of the planet. They are the creators of war, chaos, secret societies, satanic rituals and false religions to keep people from finding out the truth about what is really going on behind the scenes.

This includes manipulating the beliefs of native American tribes as well. I am aware of the beliefs of some tribes regarding the afterlife and it definitely aligns with Mantis implants. You can also see the same symbols used by native Americans of the SSPs--e.g., the cross, swastika, flying serpent, point in a circle, one or two snakes on a staff, etc.

The NDE experiences have certain similarities such as seeing one's relatives in "heaven" or whatever fits into one's belief system, seeing glowing beings (these are actually Mantis beings falsely projecting a "glow"), etc. It's all about religious manipulation of the afterlife, etc. It's all about implanting false realities/beliefs to mask the machinations of the mantis beings and their conspirators. This is a prison planet and they are the guards. Implants are the "bars" of the prison.

From my own viewpoint gained from many past life experiences with implants, I must say that, no, I don't think there really is such a thing as a "positive" implant.

Any positive change must come from a being coming to their own realizations on their own without someone knocking them unconscious and implanting post hypnotic suggestions.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Hi Truman,

Thought I would just provide a quick update on my experience with TIR as a way of retrieving repressed memories. I went for my second session last Sunday. I was able to draw out more detail from my earlier session. For me it was easy to return to where we had left off but once I seemed to reach the limits of what I could “see” for lack of a better way to put it, I just couldn’t get anymore. I do know, at least now from my own personal experience, that when images or details emerged that I wasn’t expecting or totally prepared to see, my mind would try to deny it’s possibility and the image would then definitely become clearer, as if to say “Oh yes you do have to make room for this”. And the memory surfaced in an age appropriate manner. That is to say what made it seem the most valid for me was when I felt an incredible wave of what I actually felt at the time, with my nose so stuffed up from my fear and crying that I almost couldn’t breathe from the snot and felt like reaching for a kleenex even though I wasn’t stuffed up at all.

I ran into this from Mary Rodwell in an interview with Alex Tsakiris and I found this to be true as I was grappling with whether I may have just imagined what I saw:

I say, “The evidence is in the whole fact that they change as individuals. You don’t change after a hallucination. You don’t change after fantasies. But you do change after an experience and every single person after these experiences changes in a multitude of ways in terms of their understanding of their own spirituality, consciousness. Even in terms of their motivations and their focus. That is evidence of a reality even if you can’t make it any more tangible at its present time.”

I have to say I actually felt lighter somehow upon returning home to the point my husband noticed it too and other strong and clear mental images that have been popping into my consciousness for quite a while (as if now ready to come to the surface) begin to make more sense and I do feel more at ease. Some details did not become clearer unfortunately, like the particular face of a being I saw, as if it either found some way to obstruct my view of it, or was just too much for me to handle seeing just yet.

I must say it may be quite some long time before I share my experience/memories with my kids. They already know I just barely make it fitting into society as it is. This brings me to one last point. I can see why people are reluctant to share anything that doesn’t fit into our socially accepted paradigms. There is no doubt there is discrimination to be feared if you are at all worried what other people think.

Thank you for updating your experiences with TIR, Spiritwind. I can certainly relate to what you are saying.

TLC

[Ahnung-quay]

Thank you for your reply to my question Truman. I do want to address two of the symbols that you have given examples of that are used by native Americans.
The cross that they use is the equilateral cross symbolizing the four directions, not the Christian cross. The use of the equilateral cross is ancient and comes from time before present recorded history when it was used world-wide. Most cultures had their four directional gods/winds/stars that held up the four corners of the universe.
The swastika that the Native Americans use is not the right-hand swastika that symbolizes the male, clock-wise solar energy and that was turned on it's side and corrupted by the Nazis. The swastika used by Native Americans is the left-hand swastika representing the female, counter-clockwise solar energy. There are both polarities on the sun (positive and negative) acting in concert together and I believe that both right- and left-hand symbols were used in the pre-historical world as representations of Sun. This symbol encodes the science of the Sun.
Many reading here probably already know this information but, finding out about the origin of these symbols has been part of my path. I believe that there was a time, possibly before the present control system that we are now under, when the people of the world were one. These ancient symbols come from that time. This has to do with belief based on pieced together information...

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for pointing out that there are various concepts associated with these symbols, Ahnung-quay. I have done some research on the recorded history of symbols and I found that in some cases if not many cases the symbols were interpreted differently in different cultures at different points in time. In other words different significances were attached to the symbols at various times around the world and those significances were not always consistent. On the other hand there are also similarities in the significances of symbols as well and there is a reason for that (as mentioned below).

My main point, though, is that the symbols themselves were implanted many millions of years ago in the minds of the people on this planet, long before any recorded history. There were also dichotomies implanted in association with these symbols. This information comes from past life research and experience, not just mine but others as well. It is only when one conducts very extensive past life research that one runs across the source of these sort of implants, that is, the actual implantation incidents. In modern terms one might describe them as MKUltra-style implants, though the technology used is far more advanced than the present Earth technologies with which most people are familiar. Though the symbols are triggered on an unconscious level, they seem familiar to people, so that is why they have appeared so often in all the cultures around the globe throughout recorded history. Some of these implants were massive and the same implants were experienced by many people. The implants and associated symbols can trigger and influence thought and behavior so that is why we see so much group thought happening on this planet. Nazi Germany is a good example of that.

TLC



Thank you for your reply to my question Truman. I do want to address two of the symbols that you have given examples of that are used by native Americans.
The cross that they use is the equilateral cross symbolizing the four directions, not the Christian cross. The use of the equilateral cross is ancient and comes from time before present recorded history when it was used world-wide. Most cultures had their four directional gods/winds/stars that held up the four corners of the universe.
The swastika that the Native Americans use is not the right-hand swastika that symbolizes the male, clock-wise solar energy and that was turned on it's side and corrupted by the Nazis. The swastika used by Native Americans is the left-hand swastika representing the female, counter-clockwise solar energy. There are both polarities on the sun (positive and negative) acting in concert together and I believe that both right- and left-hand symbols were used in the pre-historical world as representations of Sun. This symbol encodes the science of the Sun.
Many reading here probably already know this information but, finding out about the origin of these symbols has been part of my path. I believe that there was a time, possibly before the present control system that we are now under, when the people of the world were one. These ancient symbols come from that time. This has to do with belief based on pieced together information...

[wegge]

does the same implant invoke in everyone the same reaction? and could you give a example for such an old implanted symbol and what it could possibly invoke?

isn´t it possible to kinda remove a implant by "back engineering"? I try to explain.
You see a "chair". The moment you see it and recognize it (unconscious and conscious realization separated by a few seconds I think) you attach some meaning/implant out of your data bank to it. A child (let´s suppose it´s unimplanted) sees a "chair". But it doesn´t know it is a chair. It could see something made out of "wood" with "legs" smelling like "XYC" although it even cannot attach these labels to it since it is still label free/unimplanted.
So what I think one should do when seeing something, trying to observe the process of attaching meaning to something (in miliseconds) and disrupt this reaction of "sensory input -> meaning out of databank" and just let the sensory input impinge on you till the object reveals slowly its true meaning to you maybe through a feeling (again this could be clouded through other incidents).

Hope I could explain

kind regards

[Hughe]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_thule10.htm
The symbol of the 4-sided swastika is an archetype for the rotations of time and consciousness - moving clockwise and counterwise - in upward or downward spirals - allowing souls to experience many levels of reality simultaneously.

Swastika symbol - Buddhist tradition pattern
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/swastika-symbol-buddhist-tradition-pattern-often-can-be-seen-cultures-all-over-world-its-history-can-be-traced-back-to-34842620.jpg

Painted pottery jar with geometric design. Majiayao Culture: Banshan type (c. 2600-2300 B.C.) Neolithic Period HongKong Museum of Art.
http://0.tqn.com/d/ancienthistory/1/G/1/p/2/chinesejar.jpg

Milky Way Galaxy Has Four Spiral Arms, New Study Confirms
http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/science-milky-way-galaxy-four-spiral-arms-01649.html
http://cdn4.sci-news.com/images/2013/12/image_1649-Milky-Way-Arms.jpg

In geometry, to construct three dimensional space on two dimensional plane, only the right angle - nine degree - is needed. In physics the right angle means tangent which is related to rate of change of an object in circular motion.

Ancient civilizations that had existed before the great cataclymic event were advanced than modern civilization in many ways. This is my personal conclusion. I think those civilizations mostly were composed of three species, a group of ET races that acted as ruling class, hybrid humans and designated human bloodlines as management class, the rest of humans - earthlings - as labor class.

Most humans probably had good life that only few humans can enjoy nowadays - stress free lifestyle, surrounded by beautiful nature, organic fresh food, hundreds years of logevity with physical youth till death.

[TrumanCash]

does the same implant invoke in everyone the same reaction? and could you give a example for such an old implanted symbol and what it could possibly invoke?

isn´t it possible to kinda remove a implant by "back engineering"? I try to explain.
You see a "chair". The moment you see it and recognize it (unconscious and conscious realization separated by a few seconds I think) you attach some meaning/implant out of your data bank to it. A child (let´s suppose it´s unimplanted) sees a "chair". But it doesn´t know it is a chair. It could see something made out of "wood" with "legs" smelling like "XYC" although it even cannot attach these labels to it since it is still label free/unimplanted.
So what I think one should do when seeing something, trying to observe the process of attaching meaning to something (in miliseconds) and disrupt this reaction of "sensory input -> meaning out of databank" and just let the sensory input impinge on you till the object reveals slowly its true meaning to you maybe through a feeling (again this could be clouded through other incidents).

Hope I could explain

kind regards

An implant would not necessarily invoke the same reaction in everyone because everyone is different and an implant also can have multi-aspects to it that could be triggered in different ways depending upon the person and the situation. Also, not everyone has experienced the same implants.

A previous post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=631798&viewfull=1#post631798) on this thread gives a couple examples of the possible effects of an old implanted symbol here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=631798&viewfull=1#post631798).

The negative effects of an implant can be disabled simply by seeing the truth in it. That is, as the old adage goes, the truth will make one free. Therefore, one must remember and sometimes re-experience it fully in order to disable it in a memory retrieval session. Sometimes implants have traps or illusions in them so one must go over the incident as many times as it takes for the truth to surface. For example, ETs often implant illusions with telepathic hypnosis during an abduction. A gray or reptilian could appear to be a human being--even a wife, husband or dead relative. When the abductee later has a memory retrieval session it may take two, three, four or more times through the incident for the illusion to become apparent. All this is rather automatic and one does not have to put a lot of thinking in it--just viewing the incident as it really happened.

TLC

[Hervé]

For a long time, I've had the following question about LRH churning at the back of my mind:


"What the hell is he talking about?"


Looking for answers to that question, I first ran into all the conspiracies about the bankers and the psychos and controllers, etc. but that didn't completely answer that question.

Then there was the discovery of these implants technologies, psychiatrists, MKultra and its billion years-long genealogical history into space opera and the implanters/slaves game... and the question kept churning around, cavitating...

Then there was the R6 materials (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) and things started to move in the right direction but, still, with not much of an answer as to the why or what the whole thing he set up was all about...

Rummaging around posts, threads, fora and websites...

I ran into this:


Firstly, Patrick seems to be a tremendously compassionate, and convenient, healer. He works indirectly through a medium who speaks directly to the spirits and the spirit body of the customer, speaks what she sees, while Patrick comments on what he's sensing/seeing as he communicates through her to the spirits. He has a certain tact and impeccability so the conversation flows quite well and there is no hint of him being flustered.

For example, I was supposedly tagged by a raging, violent man when I was 10 because I didn't understand why no one could see me for who I was. On top of this the dead dude was himself possessed by two demons. And yet, the workers, as Patrick terms the demons (since they are all "employed"), were told by Pat that they had done a wonderful job. I thought this was a funny angle to take. He then told them that the Angels would be more than happy to show them even more fun work to do. And, supposedly, eager to pursue their self-interest, they left. This filled the dead dude with so much joy that he voluntarily left as well. After reading on spirit release I wasn't too surprised by any of it, and it was a typical textbook release. Stranger than fiction though!!

Secondly, there was no hypnosis required at all, and anyone can call in for a phone conference from just about anywhere while Patrick and his medium do their work.... and this:


Patrick: I was already involved in doing emotional release, hypnotherapy, this type of thing and kind of combining all of these things and so it just made sense to me to help these spirits in a therapeutic way. I kept wanting to find out so it just came to me to use the emotions and energy and the emotions of energy. So, that's how it started with doing like these therapy sessions for lost souls and then when we started getting into seeing people with attachments, it was very evident because what she would see was an intermixing or an intertwining of energy and the way she described it is like you have the aura or energy of the living person was intertwined with the aura or the energy of the spirit. The longer the spirit had been attached, the more intertwined the energy fibers were. So by focusing on the emotions, releasing the emotions is what released the energy. That's how we proceeded with the spirit release. When it came to demons, what she noticed was that they all had jobs. That just made sense to me. I was like oh, okay, rather than deal with this good/bad, because I know there are a lot of methodologies of "well you know you're doing bad and you know you're doing this to the person", it just made sense of "hey, you're doing a good job of what you do here".

Patrick: That was information and it was like "can we offer you a better job?" "Can we offer you better real estate?" We were doing that for a while and that was effective but eventually she started channeling a spirit guide that said basically "I heard your call from the universe and I'm here to try and help out". It was an amazing experience for like two or three years several times a week. It was like going to college for spirit release and stuff like this. It was like take notes, it was do this, it was like this professor that she channeled that would say it's like this. So I just learned that way.

What the working model is: we have fallen angels. Fallen angels employ beings if you will. I call them workers. And they come as a way to resonate with hurts and pains. So you have a person that goes through something really traumatic in one life or another or even this life. It's like I don't ever want this to happen again and that's a key difference. It's not: I want this or I want that. It's: I don't want this or I don't want that. That's when the call comes in, workers are put in "yeah I resonate with your pain" and then the workers are put in so that he doesn't have to feel that pain. It just developed over time, like the how to's, the working model developed. But it's all revolved around emotions which correspond to energy.

[...]

And I imagine it's probably a very similar fear where there's so much hype around it. But when you get down to it, it's a perspective thing. But it also is very real. So, it is real, it is real.

The Catholic exorcism ritual, and this is like a very step by step like a recipe doing an exorcism and I'm not sure if most people even understand that, it's first you do this, then you do that, then you do this. It's a very antagonistic ritual.

You tie the person to the bed, get someone to hold the person down, it's traumatic to the person that's actually receiving the service. The life expectancy of Catholic priests that make this a career choice is one of the shortest life expectancies too. Having said that, what I call workers is what other people will refer to as demons. It is my belief that when I deal with workers, these are the same types of beings that will throw a Catholic priest against the wall. That is my belief. I've never been thrown against the wall. I have had some kind of uncomfortable experiences.

[...]

I do believe that they do exist and I believe that our way of working with the "demons" is highly, highly, highly respectful. Our way of working with fallen angels is highly respectful. One thing I kind of find weird about my own way of talking is that I've noticed that I seem to speak in a different way when I'm talking to fallen angels. It's like I go into an old English way of speaking, it's really weird. I'm always like, what's that about? But it's very, very, very respectful and I believe that's what keeps us safe. I was talking about the spirit guide that was doing this training with us.

Now one of the things that he would tell me over and over and over again is you have to come naked. I was like: "what does that mean?" Because at this time we would use candles and try to do these invocations of protection. Then he goes: "When you're dealing with these levels of beings, the fallen angel, now you have to come naked" and I was scared to even like -- not take notes -- because I'm always taking notes and things like that. But when it comes to fallen angles, I make sure to clear my lap, clear my mind and it's just be in a state of being and he use to say: "At this level, you cannot do, you must be."

[...]

Patrick: I believe that all of us have some kind of attachments. Where there is suppressed energy, we have energy disruption. Where we have disruptions, we will have like a beacon for earthbound spirits. Most spirits that come to us, people think "oh it's a haunting". Most spirits I've found are like: "Oh, I feel your pain, I have that same pain too!" and it's more of a resonating energy, not a haunting per say.

Now let's talk about fallen angels and demons if you will. Most people have some kind of an automatic behaviour that they don't like. Road rage; so someone cuts them off on the freeway. I live in Los Angeles by the way so I'm very familiar with this concept. Someone cuts you off on the freeway, but there are some people that just go berserk and it's like someone attacked them personally and we all have this or many of us have this automatic behaviour. For some people its freeway, for some people it might be a crying baby. What it does is that triggers a hurt inside and it's not that that person cut someone off or cut them off. It's all the injustices that they've ever had are now triggering those demons inside and that's a very quick way to tell, not if you have a demon, but where you have a demon. I think many, many, many of us have demons and fallen angels attached. But that's my working model. I don't necessarily know if it's real, but it seems to be very consistent with the work.

[...]

Q: ... it does seem that at some point at least everyone has them, also assuming that most of them are earthbound spirits so they would once have been incorporeal on this plane of reality, then the kind of numbers you're talking about, it seems in my mind, are huge! We've got seven billion people on the planet today: are we talking about billions upon billions of previously lived lives that are still bound to this planet?

Patrick: That's why I keep coming back to 'the working model, the working model, the working model'. I don't want to make the reality or try to impose a reality on someone or have someone believe something. If anything, it's like if you're someone that's drawn to this subject, if you're someone that can see spirits, please get the manual because you'll just find your life become so much easier. If you're someone that you're afraid to turn off the TV at night, if you're afraid to turn off the lights when you go to sleep, please get the manual. That's really the reality that I offer, not the reality that billions of spirits exist. Does that make sense?

... and the whole puzzle fell into place: there is the answer to my question!

The whole thing is basically contained in the Dianetics book or derived from it in order to successfully handle traumatic incidents and what they contain.

Whence what he did and why he did it that way.

When one considers the life story of a John E. Mack (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71451-JOHN-MACK-A-Major-Motion-Picture)... whose psychiatric colleagues would have been happy to institutionalize him for his ability to surrender to the implications of the factual data he collected... there is no way anyone could address psychiatrists' fief and hold on the mental field without damages unless going the religious way.

Because, indeed, "What the hell is LRH talking about?"... well... demons, attachments, hitch-hikers, possessions, etc... but, he couldn't do it under those terms and be taken seriously so as to provide beneficial therapies/"exorcisms", so, he re-wrote the whole of the occult knowledge into scientific terminology which wouldn't scare anyone nor be confused with "older technologies" and their respective terminologies.

Hence one gets, "allies," "circuits," "entities," "BTs," etc. in Dianetics.

From there, it all makes sense (to me, or anyone having done some sort of auditor training) because in dealing with those "workers" and "fallen angels;" ARC (respect in communicating) is needed, TRs are needed (especially TR-0 if one wants to BE as if naked, i.e. without even a meat-suit) and most of all: VALIDATION as opposed to invalidation.

Then, the whole "Lower Bridge" was designed to get "charge" off someone's back and prepared one to face one's and others' demons in the upper -- OT -- levels... that simple!

R6 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642) gives an idea on how come a couple of 100 billion spirits/beings can be given the deep six and left as wandering spirits around a planet. Whereas an L. kin (Chapter 5) (http://fzba.chat.ru/LKin/Vol3.pdf) gives an idea on how the whole thing came about and on how long this thing has been going on...

Anyway, with the above, that nagging question quit churning while I was rummaging around... leaving a quality silence in its place and a grin on my face!

PS: There is also a strong similarity between Patrick's work (http://www.soulrescuesite.com/index.htm) and Steve Richards' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)

[TrumanCash]

Yes, this is a very fascinating subject, Amzer, so thanks for bringing it up. I think that in the Dianetics book Hubbard referred to this phenomenon as "demon circuits", but I don't think he fully understand it at that time. Also, Bill Ryan posted information on hitchhikers here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52553-HITCHHIKERS--a-sort-of-partial-possession--and-how-to-handle-them&p=590690&viewfull=1#post590690).

I first became acquainted with this phenomenon over twenty years ago when I met a drummer who said that when he was younger his father beat him severely and often. It was so traumatic that he decided to kill himself. He said that he lay down and began to consciously shut off the systems in his body. At this point another being telepathically asked if he could inhabit his body. He agreed and so the being merged with him. He said he then ran away from home to escape his abusive father and began living a normal life.

Recently, I have had the opportunity to experience this phenomenon firsthand in releasing "hitchhikers" who are not me but had merged with me. This is a very refreshing, positive experience and as one continues this process one becomes more oneself.

I have recently wondered if Hubbard himself was adversely affected with this phenomenon as he seemed to have two opposing personalities--one that was very charming, creative, charismatic and intelligent and one that was a sociopathic tyrant. The positive side of him created self-improvement techniques (auditing) that can help people and the negative side of him created policies that were horribly destructive. His actions often contradicted his words and policies.

One of the eyewitnesses to Hubbard's sociopathic behaviors was Hana Whitfield (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd00GtwXcYQ). However, one can hear firsthand testimonies from many other people on YouTube regarding his sociopathic behaviors as well as his successor David Miscavige. Gerry Armstrong has been very vocal for many years in exposing Hubbard and he believes Hubbard was a sociopath.

Indeed, Hubbard's actions would reasonably cause one to conclude that he was a sociopath as he often lied, committed acts of violence and terrorized people by throwing them overboard, threw temper tantrums, screamed at people, imprisoned people, humiliated people, forced people into hard labor accompanied by sleep deprivation and human excrement, etc, etc. He was also very promiscuous, even when married. He was in fact a criminal as he orchestrated the burglary of government offices and his wife and several other Sea Org members served prison sentences while he went into hiding. He hated criticism and created policies that made it perfectly okay to lie to, trick, sue or even destroy people who did not agree with him or Scientology.

In spite of all that crazy stuff he managed to develop (with the help of many other dedicated people) some truly extraordinary and very helpful techniques for personal self-improvement.

However, there may be another explanation for the dark/light nature of his personality. I recently stumbled onto this and it lead me to the occult and the "sun god" Ra. I'll comment on that more when I have more time.

TLC

[Tyy1907]

Awesome thread guys. I just finished reading Trumans Ra book and just started on his first one. Yes, they tie a lot of things together. Since this thread has the attention of at least a few abductees, I will share mybrief and strange encounter. During the middle of the night some years ago I remember something had me paralyzed doing something to either my right temple or my right ear. I must have been sleeping on my stomach as my wife slept to my left. Anyway some force had my head suspended above the pillow absolutely dead still. I heard a tone in my right ear while this happened. I couldn't move if I wanted to, yet I didn't want to move. I feel it was suppressing my fear somehow. It only seemed to last maybe 10-20
seconds. Then my head kind of fell down a bit and that was it. I had to keep playing back what happened after because it seemed my memory wanted to forget, or like something tried to make me forget. I've been researching this field for some time ever since. Thanks again.

[TrumanCash]

In my previous post above I mentioned that I had recently received some information that provided a window into the dark side of L. Ron Hubbard's personality.

I began to connect the dots when a very credible friend of mine told me about past life experiences with L. Ron Hubbard. It is a common phenomenon that people who were in Dianetics & Scientology last lifetime end up getting into it again in this lifetime. This phenomenon is not peculiar just to Scientology but can happen with any religious practice. For example, I have another friend who was into Buddhism lifetime after lifetime over a 1500 year period. I have met many people who were into Dianetics and/or Scientology last lifetime and most of them had achieved the state of clear. A few of them actually knew L. Ron Hubbard.

However, this one friend of mine who knew Hubbard last lifetime, recently discovered some rather shocking details that reveal a side of Hubbard that few ever see or know about. This friend has given me permission to make this information public as long as I use a pseudonym. I will therefore refer to this person as "Jane" to preserve privacy. "Jane" had recently obtained some Scientology counseling (called "auditing") from a Class VIII auditor even though "Jane" is not a "Scientologist" this lifetime.

"Jane" discovered that she had achieved the state of clear in 1951. She also recovered the memory of being a mistress of L Ron Hubbard. "Jane" fell in love with Hubbard in spite of the fact that he was married. Everything went well until "Jane" became pregnant with Hubbard's child.

At that point Hubbard abruptly dropped her like a hot potato. He would not look at her, talk to her or acknowledge her in any way. She became depressed at that point, moved in with her parents and lost her will to live. She then aborted the baby. She died soon thereafter because she said she had lost the will to live.

I was intrigued with this information from "Jane" and began an internet search to find out more about L. Ron Hubbard's hidden life. Then I ran into recent revelations that confirmed Hubbard's connection with the occult and the "sun god" Ra.

[TrumanCash]

Although I had heard about L. Ron Hubbard's connection with the occult I was not aware of any specifics that could be verified. However, Jamie DeWolf, the great grandson of L. Ron Hubbard, recently verified the authenticity of his grandfather's memoirs/last will and testament (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRUYESI3v3c) as well as Hubbard's occult connections with the "Golden Dawn" and Aleister Crowley.

L. Ron Hubbard has admitted that "the Great Beast 666", Aleister Crowley, was "my very good friend" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3yfsbi4L70).

L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., who later changed his name to Ron DeWolf, revealed in his memoirs that he was secretly initiated into the Golden Dawn sex magick during the time that his father, L. Ron Hubbard, delivered the Philadelphia Doctorate Course in 1952. L. Ron Hubbard revealed to his son his viewpoint of the sex Magick with his many "Scarlet Women".

After hearing the following excerpt of Ron DeWolf's memoirs, "Jane" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=838926&viewfull=1#post838926) (see previous post) realized that she was just one of L. Ron Hubbard's many "Scarlet Women".

Quoted excerpt from the memoirs, last will and testatment, of L. Ron Hubbard's son (Ron DeWolf):

"What LRH drummed into my head by his magic tech was, “Do what you will is the whole of the law. Do only that which satisfies the Will.” What the hell does that mean? I didn’t find out myself, consciously, that is, until mid-December 1952 when my father was giving a series of lectures in Philadelphia. Not from the lectures — privately, in his hotel room. He deemed it proper at that time to openly initiate me into his sources. He gives me the first of a series of books. Books and content to be kept forever secret. He says, to reveal them is to cause instant insanity. Rip my mind apart. Destroy me, he warns. Secrets, techniques, and powers he alone has conquered and harnessed.

I listen with hypnotic fascination. The books; some recently republished, some over 1,200 years old, some 5,000 years old.

“Gifts,” he says.

He is excited, fearful, cautious. He is tense. Unimparted secrets imparted for the first time. I open the books, intending to only thumb through. I am awed and amazed; I know these books! How could I?

He answers: “They were used to conceive you. And birth you too. I’ve read them to you while you were asleep. Drugged too. Hypnotized too. For years,” he says.

“Katie too. And Polly too. Scores of women. Blood and pain women. My Scarlet Women,” he says. “Souls torn open,” he says. “I’ve made The Magick really work,” he says. “No more foolish rituals. I’ve stripped The Magick to basics. Access without liability,” he says. “I’ll teach you. Learn well, my son, for you shall take my place. Be likened unto me. Fashioned by my hand. Entering the Golden Dawn with me and carrying it to the stars and beyond,” he says. “Scarlet Women of your own,” he says. “Plenty. For They are the secret to the Doorway. Use and consume. Feast. Drink the power through them. Waste and discard them. Sex by Will,” he says. “Love by Will,” he says. “No caring. No sharing. No feelings. None,” he says. “Sex and love reversed,” he says. “Blind love through sex. Love isn’t sex. Love is no good; puts you at effect-point,” he says. “Sex is power,” he says. “No, sex is the route to power,” he says. “The route to the Doorway. The Doorway to power,” he says. “Find your Scarlet Woman,” he says. “Create your Causation,” he says. “Make your own Scarlet Women,” he says.

“Scarlet?” I ask.

“Yes, Scarlet. The blood of their bodies; the blood of their soul,” he says. “Release the Will from bondage,” he says. “Bend the body. Bend the mind. Bend their will,” he says. “Beat back the past,” he says. “Free your Will. Unfetter the Will from the past, from the future,” he says. “The present is the only thing. No consequences. None answering. No guilt,” he says. “Nothing is wrong in the present. The Will is free — Total free,” he says. “No feelings. No effort. Pure thought. Thinking alone; separated. The Will postulating the will,” he says.

“Will, Sex, Love, Blood, Door, Power, Will. Logical,” he says. “The Doorway of plenty. The great Door of the Great Beast. Him. You. Me. Our Will. Our Power. Our Reality. Ours Alone,” he says.

He repeats an incantation; invokes the Door opening to the realm of The Beast. The Great Beast. I vomit. I hurt. I feel the power flood through the Doorway. I shine. I am well.

Father says again, “Never tell or much worse will happen.”

I nod. He commands me to read. I have trouble. I keep trancing. Father has commanded. I read. “The Book Of The Law.” “The Sacred Magic Of Abra-Melin.” “The Sex Magic Of The Ninth Degree Of The O.T.O.” And later, many more textbooks. Many more hours of learning. Of practice with Dad. Practice alone. And use. An academy of religious arts and sciences. The academy of power. Hubbard power. Personal power. Not Scientology power. Great power. Beast power.

Dad was correct. Very right on. It worked exactly as he said. It still does and always will." [End of quote]

[Hervé]

Thank you Truman for relaying "Jane's" experience with LRH.

Regarding the reference of Crowley as being LRH's "very good friend," see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=624459&viewfull=1#post624459) <---

Now regarding LRH's "demons":


Steven "Sarge" Pfauth interviews:


Mary McConnell (http://reaching4.info) | January 21, 2013 at 9:37 pm (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/going-clear-muddies-the-water/#comment-250373)
Sarge was interviewed and quoted in the "Going Clear book". Denise Brennan also quotes Wright’s quote from Sarge in her review of the book:

“Six weeks before the leader died, Pfauth hesitantly related, Hubbard called him into the bus. He was sitting in his little breakfast nook. `He told me he was dropping his body… He told me he failed, he’s leaving.’

I mentioned the legend in Scientology that Hubbard would return.

“That’s bull crap,” Pfauth said. “He wanted to drop the body and leave. And he told me basically that he failed. All the work and everything, he’d failed”.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A3INT0L85FO4SI/ref=cm_cr_pr_pdp


sarge | June 1, 2013 at 3:28 pm (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/cults-enemies-and-shadows/#comment-266941)
Marty, I can’t help but think there were a great deal of ‘anti’s expressing their opinion about your book. I know that some of the ‘anti’s dislike me just because I thought so highly of LRH. They don’t even know me. I don’t condone many of the policies LRH wrote in order to defend Scientology but I do understand why he wrote them. Its easy for me to forgive LRH for any transgressions because I knew the kind of pressure he was under and because of all the good things he did. Please don’t take the ‘anti’s too seriously. You have a lot of really good friends who believe in you. Love, Sarge
Emotions IV: The Top Of The Tone Scale (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/emotions-iv-the-top-of-the-tone-scale/)
Posted on September 6, 2013 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/emotions-iv-the-top-of-the-tone-scale/) by martyrathbun09 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/author/martyrathbun09/)

From "Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior":
Sarge (Steve Pfauth): So, anyway, he (L. Ron Hubbard) wanted to see me. So I went into the Bluebird and sat down. And he sat across from me and he said, “Sarge,”…boy I wish I had written it all down because I don’t want to goof it up, because this is kind of important. Basically he said, “Sarge, I need you to do something.” He wanted me to build him a machine that would get rid of the BTs [Body Thetans] and kill the body.

Mark (“Marty” Rathbun): Wow.

Sarge: Yeah. It’s kind of heavy. It struck me real hard. He told me a few things. He said, “Yeah, I’ve done all I can do here and I’m just… I’m not coming back. I’m leaving and I am not coming back.” He wanted to die, basically. You know, his body was going to hell and all that stuff. He was having trouble with BTs.

Mark: And you say that was in late ʼ85?

Sarge: Yeah. Fall of ʼ85. Yeah, it was right around October.

Mark: Like three months before he died.

Sarge: Yeah, like three or four months. So, I didn’t want to do it. But I didn’t tell him that. And I was hoping I could talk to Pat because Annie insisted that I build the machine. And I said, “Annie, I don’t know that much about building machines that fry people, you know what I mean?”

Mark: Well, did he describe how it should be done?

Sarge: Basically, he wanted to hook it up to the e-meter. And he wanted enough voltage in there that it would get rid of the BTs. And I asked him about voltages and I asked him some questions… it was so long ago. And, uh, well, I gotta tell ya, it upset me a lot.

Mark: I bet. So, the idea was that you’d be holding the cans…

Sarge: Turn the thing on and then, in other words, he was gonna audit the BTs away and the body was gonna die.

Mark: Right. So there would be enough voltage to kill the body?

Sarge: To do it all. How he figured I was going to figure that out, I have no idea…

… Sarge: Yeah. Earlier on I cooked for LRH. He thought I was a good cook. And then he got sick. Anyway, what happened was I was very upset. So I got pissy-ass drunk and Annie found me about four o’clock in the morning with beer cans all over the green truck, out at the racetrack. I had passed out on the seat. And she was screaming at me, “Oh, you son of a bitch!” Oh man, she laid into me. And I said, “All right, Annie,” and my head was hurting. But I was upset, I was very upset. I was crying and everything. That was a rough time. Very rough. Uh, so anyway, then days went by, okay? And Annie kept saying, “He wants to know about the machine, he wants to know about the machine. What are you doing on the machine?” Annie says, “If you don’t do anything on this Sarge, he’s going to get the local electrician to build one for him.” Can you picture that?

Mark: Wow. That would have been a…

Sarge: I said “No way, man.” So I had to show some progress. So I went to an electronics place in San Luis Obispo and I bought some Tesla coils and some up-transformer things and I got all sorts of things. I basically built him a battery-operated automotive coil type thing. This is my reasoning now, Marty. If he gets zapped by that sucker, it’s gonna shock him but it ain’t gonna kill him. Okay?

Mark: Okay.

Sarge: It’ll shock him but it ain’t gonna kill him. It’ll scare him and he won’t want to do it again.

Mark: These are like 12-volt batteries?

Sarge: Yeah. But the voltage is going to go way up on a transformer. It’s like an automotive coil sort of thing.

Mark: So your thought, what you understand is that he is not going to get…

Sarge: I’m not frying him!

Mark: Exactly. I gotcha.

Sarge: I didn’t want anything that is going to plug into the wall. I didn’t want to fry him, but I didn’t want to tell him I didn’t want to fry him. You know what I mean?

Mark: Yeah, I think about what you are saying right now, and I try to put myself into your position and I…

Sarge: It was very difficult. I didn’t want to kill the old man. So anyway, he used the thing and he fried up my Mark VI [e-meter]. I had a Mark VI that got fried.

Mark: He used it?

Sarge: Yeah.

Mark: LRH actually used it?

Sarge: Yeah, it was my Mark VI, yeah. And it fried the Mark VI. I knew that was going to happen. Fried it.

Mark: You mean he actually tried…

Sarge: Oh, yeah. It had burn marks on it and everything.

Mark: He didn’t get burnt?

Sarge: He may have. But after that there was no more mention of any machines. And that was my intention. That was my intention.

Mark: He probably got a good, hard jolt.

Sarge: I think it scared him, or something.

Mark: And it burned the plastic?

Sarge: It was burnt. It was fried. The insides were gone. Because, you know, those things are like a computer. You can’t put that much power into them without zapping them… I do think people need to know. I just wish at the time when I first blew that I would have written it all down. But I carried it because I had no terminals [people to talk to].

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for the quotes, Amzer. I haven't read Marty Rathbun's "Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior" yet so I hadn't read Marty and Sarge's conversation. Very revealing.

I just got through reading the book "Bare-Faced Messiah (http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/bare-faced-messiah.pdf)", though. I think this is a really good book to get some facts about Hubbard. The interviews in the book can be confirmed with actual interviews on YouTube with the people who knew and worked with Hubbard.

"Bare-Faced Messiah (http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/bare-faced-messiah.pdf)" (now available free online (http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/bare-faced-messiah.pdf)) also confirms Hubbard's promiscuity, infidelity and bigamy. Other people who knew Hubbard also confirmed this (e.g., Hana Whitfield (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd00GtwXcYQ)). Ironically, the third chapter of his booklet "Way to Happiness" is entitled "Don't Be Promiscuous". Hubbard was quite often the exact opposite of what he preached and what he imposed on others.

I should also point out that "Jane" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=838926&viewfull=1#post838926) knew practically nothing at all about L. Ron Hubbard before she recovered her memories with him from the previous lifetime. The documentation and firsthand testimonies of Hubbard's promiscuity show that "Jane's" past life memories were accurate and that Hubbard's techniques for memory retrieval are indeed valid and effective. It is therefore ironic that Hubbard with all his sociopathic behaviors was able to actually develop techniques that benefit people.

However, it appears that he was unable to exorcise his own "demons".


Thank you Truman for relaying "Jane's" experience with LRH.

Regarding the reference of Crowley as being LRH's "very good friend," see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54217-Their-Mind-and-the-Emotional-Matrix-that-we-create-with-it.&p=624459&viewfull=1#post624459) <---

Now regarding LRH's "demons":


Steven "Sarge" Pfauth interviews:


Mary McConnell (http://reaching4.info) | January 21, 2013 at 9:37 pm (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/going-clear-muddies-the-water/#comment-250373)
Sarge was interviewed and quoted in the "Going Clear book". Denise Brennan also quotes Wright’s quote from Sarge in her review of the book:

“Six weeks before the leader died, Pfauth hesitantly related, Hubbard called him into the bus. He was sitting in his little breakfast nook. `He told me he was dropping his body… He told me he failed, he’s leaving.’

I mentioned the legend in Scientology that Hubbard would return.

“That’s bull crap,” Pfauth said. “He wanted to drop the body and leave. And he told me basically that he failed. All the work and everything, he’d failed”.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A3INT0L85FO4SI/ref=cm_cr_pr_pdp


sarge | June 1, 2013 at 3:28 pm (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/06/01/cults-enemies-and-shadows/#comment-266941)
Marty, I can’t help but think there were a great deal of ‘anti’s expressing their opinion about your book. I know that some of the ‘anti’s dislike me just because I thought so highly of LRH. They don’t even know me. I don’t condone many of the policies LRH wrote in order to defend Scientology but I do understand why he wrote them. Its easy for me to forgive LRH for any transgressions because I knew the kind of pressure he was under and because of all the good things he did. Please don’t take the ‘anti’s too seriously. You have a lot of really good friends who believe in you. Love, Sarge
Emotions IV: The Top Of The Tone Scale (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/emotions-iv-the-top-of-the-tone-scale/)
Posted on September 6, 2013 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/emotions-iv-the-top-of-the-tone-scale/) by martyrathbun09 (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/author/martyrathbun09/)

From "Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior":
Sarge (Steve Pfauth): So, anyway, he (L. Ron Hubbard) wanted to see me. So I went into the Bluebird and sat down. And he sat across from me and he said, “Sarge,”…boy I wish I had written it all down because I don’t want to goof it up, because this is kind of important. Basically he said, “Sarge, I need you to do something.” He wanted me to build him a machine that would get rid of the BTs [Body Thetans] and kill the body.

Mark (“Marty” Rathbun): Wow.

Sarge: Yeah. It’s kind of heavy. It struck me real hard. He told me a few things. He said, “Yeah, I’ve done all I can do here and I’m just… I’m not coming back. I’m leaving and I am not coming back.” He wanted to die, basically. You know, his body was going to hell and all that stuff. He was having trouble with BTs.

Mark: And you say that was in late ʼ85?

Sarge: Yeah. Fall of ʼ85. Yeah, it was right around October.

Mark: Like three months before he died.

Sarge: Yeah, like three or four months. So, I didn’t want to do it. But I didn’t tell him that. And I was hoping I could talk to Pat because Annie insisted that I build the machine. And I said, “Annie, I don’t know that much about building machines that fry people, you know what I mean?”

Mark: Well, did he describe how it should be done?

Sarge: Basically, he wanted to hook it up to the e-meter. And he wanted enough voltage in there that it would get rid of the BTs. And I asked him about voltages and I asked him some questions… it was so long ago. And, uh, well, I gotta tell ya, it upset me a lot.

Mark: I bet. So, the idea was that you’d be holding the cans…

Sarge: Turn the thing on and then, in other words, he was gonna audit the BTs away and the body was gonna die.

Mark: Right. So there would be enough voltage to kill the body?

Sarge: To do it all. How he figured I was going to figure that out, I have no idea…

… Sarge: Yeah. Earlier on I cooked for LRH. He thought I was a good cook. And then he got sick. Anyway, what happened was I was very upset. So I got pissy-ass drunk and Annie found me about four o’clock in the morning with beer cans all over the green truck, out at the racetrack. I had passed out on the seat. And she was screaming at me, “Oh, you son of a bitch!” Oh man, she laid into me. And I said, “All right, Annie,” and my head was hurting. But I was upset, I was very upset. I was crying and everything. That was a rough time. Very rough. Uh, so anyway, then days went by, okay? And Annie kept saying, “He wants to know about the machine, he wants to know about the machine. What are you doing on the machine?” Annie says, “If you don’t do anything on this Sarge, he’s going to get the local electrician to build one for him.” Can you picture that?

Mark: Wow. That would have been a…

Sarge: I said “No way, man.” So I had to show some progress. So I went to an electronics place in San Luis Obispo and I bought some Tesla coils and some up-transformer things and I got all sorts of things. I basically built him a battery-operated automotive coil type thing. This is my reasoning now, Marty. If he gets zapped by that sucker, it’s gonna shock him but it ain’t gonna kill him. Okay?

Mark: Okay.

Sarge: It’ll shock him but it ain’t gonna kill him. It’ll scare him and he won’t want to do it again.

Mark: These are like 12-volt batteries?

Sarge: Yeah. But the voltage is going to go way up on a transformer. It’s like an automotive coil sort of thing.

Mark: So your thought, what you understand is that he is not going to get…

Sarge: I’m not frying him!

Mark: Exactly. I gotcha.

Sarge: I didn’t want anything that is going to plug into the wall. I didn’t want to fry him, but I didn’t want to tell him I didn’t want to fry him. You know what I mean?

Mark: Yeah, I think about what you are saying right now, and I try to put myself into your position and I…

Sarge: It was very difficult. I didn’t want to kill the old man. So anyway, he used the thing and he fried up my Mark VI [e-meter]. I had a Mark VI that got fried.

Mark: He used it?

Sarge: Yeah.

Mark: LRH actually used it?

Sarge: Yeah, it was my Mark VI, yeah. And it fried the Mark VI. I knew that was going to happen. Fried it.

Mark: You mean he actually tried…

Sarge: Oh, yeah. It had burn marks on it and everything.

Mark: He didn’t get burnt?

Sarge: He may have. But after that there was no more mention of any machines. And that was my intention. That was my intention.

Mark: He probably got a good, hard jolt.

Sarge: I think it scared him, or something.

Mark: And it burned the plastic?

Sarge: It was burnt. It was fried. The insides were gone. Because, you know, those things are like a computer. You can’t put that much power into them without zapping them… I do think people need to know. I just wish at the time when I first blew that I would have written it all down. But I carried it because I had no terminals [people to talk to].

[Hervé]

[...]

It is therefore ironic that Hubbard with all his sociopathic behaviors was able to actually develop techniques that benefit people.

However, it appears that he was unable to exorcise his own "demons".

[...]

Indeed!

Taking into account the experience of a Patrick Rodriguez or Steve Richards or even LRH when stating that a human "being" is a composite (no kidding!), the overall picture that takes shape for anyone -- but particularly for LRH -- is that there was one being in there who was willing to cohabit and compromise with an agglomerate of space pirates, rowdy kids, womanizers, etc., within that body called "LRH" and carry on with getting the job done in spite of everything else...

... the whole thing being dramatized nowadays with these quests for "sovereignty" at all scales, from galactic to individual as well as with the search to uncover who those so-called "invisible controllers/hidden hands" are that rule the "world."

[Daughter of Time]

I'm wondering if anyone here has seen the film "The Master" which is clearly about Ron Hubbard and the beginning of Scientology.

In this film, the new religious movement is called "The Cause" and the founder's name, brilliantly portrayed by the late Seymour Hoffman who even looked like Hubbard is "Lancaster". This "Lancaster" (Hubbard) character is brilliant, rational, calm, charismatic, magnanimous, but also twisted in some ways.

Although neither "Scientology" nor "Hubbard" are ever mentioned, anyone who knows anything about Scientology and Hubbard immediately recognizes the story.

I highly recommend this film whether it be for the entertainment factor as it is brilliantly acted, or to anyone who doesn't know much about Hubbard and the beginning of Scientology and is not inclined to do much reading, as this film depicts the story, I believe, very closely to the truth, and all in a matter of a couple of hours.

Truman: I hope you don't mind this post. I hope it doesn't feel like a derailment because there's absolutely no intention to do that. I thought it might be relevant to the last few posts.

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for bringing up the movie "The Master", DOT. No, not a derailment.

Yes, I have seen the movie and understand why they had to change the names to avoid massive lawsuits by the cult of $cientology. (I no longer refer to it as a church because it has always been a business, as evidenced by numerous witnesses and even Hubbard's own words toward the end of his life.)

I intended the thread to take a concerted turn towards the subject of sociopathy and what can be done about it. L. Ron Hubbard is a fascinating person to study in regards to understanding sociopathy and the occult, which also ties into my research and experiences in THE EYE OF RA.

Also, I have promoted some of Hubbard's techniques for self-improvement that he developed, but as a truth seeker, I must also view it in a proper (i.e., truthful) context. There are good, workable techniques but there are also bad, unworkable ideas in Scientology that are hard-wired into it and are a reflection of his own "aberrations". By studying them we can sort out what is usable and what is sociopathic garbage to be thrown out.




I'm wondering if anyone here has seen the film "The Master" which is clearly about Ron Hubbard and the beginning of Scientology.

In this film, the new religious movement is called "The Cause" and the founder's name, brilliantly played by the late Seymour Hoffman who even looked like Hubbard is "Lancaster". This "Lancaster" (Hubbard) character is brilliant, rational, calm, magnanimous, but also twisted in some ways.

Although neither "Scientology" nor "Hubbard" are ever mentioned, anyone who knows anything about Scientology and Hubbard immediately recognizes the story.

I highly recommend this film whether it be for the entertainment factor as it is brilliantly acted, or to anyone who doesn't know much about Hubbard and the beginning of Scientology and is not inclined to do much reading, as this film depicts the story, I believe, very close to the truth, and all in a matter of a couple of hours.

Truman: I hope you don't mind this post. I hope it doesn't feel like a derailment because there's absolutely no intention to do that. I thought it might be relevant to the last few posts.

[TrumanCash]

The "Golden Dawn", is a secret society that L. Ron Hubbard initiated his son into (see previous posts) and was established in the late 1800s by Freemasons. The name "Golden Dawn" is a not so veiled reference to the Rising Sun, i.e., the sun god Ra (also known as Horus, Helios, Huitzlilopochtli, Amen, etc., etc.). As I detailed in THE EYE OF RA, Ra was nothing more than an ET in a spacecraft (called an "eye" by the Egyptians) that appears to have the capability of traveling through time.

Aleister Crowley was an initiate of the Golden Dawn before he started his own secret society called "Ordo Templi Orientis" (O.T.O.). The O.T.O. was originally intended to be modeled after and associated with European Freemasonry, but Crowley reorganized the O.T.O. around the Law of "Thelema"--"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". In other words, do whatever you want to do without moral/ethical restrictions.

One of the pantheon of "Thelema" was Ra-Hoor-Khuit and the Do-what-thou-wilt "law" was allegedly the new ethical code of the new "Aeon of Horus". Aleister Crowley spent one night with his new wife, Rose, in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid where they conducted a ritual. Soon thereafter Rose began hearing channeled messages in Cairo.
One night in their Cairo flat he invoked the sylphs. Rose began to speak, saying “they are waiting for you.” This happened again the next night. On the third night the message clarified: “He who waits is Horus”. Crowly then took Rose to the Cairo museum and asked her to point out Horus. She led him to the funerary stele of the priest Ankh-f-n-khonsu which depicted the composite Ra and Horus, Re-Horakty.

Rose then instructed Crowley how to perform a spring equinox ritual to Horus. She then informed him that the entity who was instructing her was not Horus but "Aiwass". A few weeks later Rose instructed Crowley to prepare himself to take dictation. For three days the (apparently channeled) entity Aiwass dictated to Crowley the three chapters of the Book of the Law.

[TrumanCash]

The Golden Dawn is just one example of the "occult", which means secret or hidden. There are numerous secret societies in the world and there are common threads throughout them. In Freemasonry, for example, you will see the symbol of the black and white checkered floor (http://nwothesis.blogspot.com/2010/02/freemasonry-checkered-floor-nwo.html) in their art and architecture. The origin of the black and white checkered floor came from the floor of Ra's spacecraft in Egypt.

The symbolism in the checkered floor is multi-faceted. It is on its face the juxtaposition of dark vs light and that is certainly part of the symbolism. However, the aspect I want to focus on here is the outer "mystery" which is public and in the light of day and there is the "inner mystery" which is very secret and hidden in the dark.

In Egypt there was the outer "mystery" of Osiris in that people made crackers of Osiris and brewed ale from the grain that they grew. The Star in the East (Sirius) rose with the Rising Sun when the Nile flooded which brought life-giving water to their grain fields. This practice later became the Eucharist in Christianity--the cracker represented the body of Osiris/Christ and the ale (or wine) represented the blood of Osiris/Christ. This was what the common people practiced. [BTW, did anyone notice the use of the Rising Sun symbol and the Sirius symbol in the movie "Truman Show"?]

However, there was a inner, dark mystery that was hidden and only "the elite" took part in it. It was a parallel ritual held in the Great Pyramid which began with drinking ale out of a golden chalice but then a virgin was later brought in to have her heart cut out and the initiate and twelve priests all drank her blood from the chalice (i.e., "holy grail"). There are, of course, other aspects to this ritual which I reveal in THE EYE OF RA because I was there and experienced them myself. Another aspect is that of being given a drug, put in the sarcophagus and going out of body; then coming back into the body and being "born again". I recently found this web page (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hercolobus/esp_hercolobus_64.htm) which confirmed my memory of this aspect of the ritual.

Today people still openly practice the Eucharist (outer mystery) in churches around the world in the light of day. However, few people are aware of the hidden, dark "Satanic" rituals practiced by "the elite".

Another example of this concept is in the structure of Freemasonry. Most men in Freemasonry are entirely unaware that there is a secret society hidden with the secret society of Freemasonry. This was reported by 33 degree Freemason Manly P. Hall, et al. Thirty-three degree Freemason Albert Pike revealed in his book MORALS AND DOGMA that the lower initiates (Blue degrees) were lied to as to the meaning of the symbols. So here again we have an outer and inner "mystery".

Secret societies often present a beneficent facade to the public while hiding a dark agenda. For example, the Freemason "Shriners" run burn hospitals for children. Of course, they do not reveal what goes on behind closed doors. The Knights Templar are known for helping the blind.

The black and white checkered floor also represents "good" (light) and "evil" (dark). The goal is to advance to the level of being in control of ("knowing") both good and evil. This concept was stated in the Bible in Genesis chapter 3, verse 22:

3:22--"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."

The symbol of the "Skull & Bones" secret society is a skull and crossbones with the number 322 below it. Coincidence? Skull and Bones member George Bush (Sr), for example, presented an outer facade of benevolence (at least to most Republicans), but in his dark side he was a pedophile and murderer.

Along the same lines, in the secretive, elitist Bohemian Grove ritual, they perform a mock human sacrifice in the cremation of "care". In other words, if one can control ("know") both good and evil, one cannot not have a conscience, feel guilt about or "care" about harming others to obtain personal power.

This concept, of course, would draw sociopaths to secret societies in droves as does powerful positions in government. It all pretty much boils down to money and power.

[Lcam88]

Matrix also has another definition based on Etymology.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=matrix


matrix (n.) Look up matrix at Dictionary.com
late 14c., "uterus, womb," from Old French matrice "womb, uterus," from Latin matrix (genitive matricis) "pregnant animal," in Late Latin "womb," also "source, origin," from mater (genitive matris) "mother" (see mother (n.1)). Sense of "place or medium where something is developed" is first recorded 1550s; sense of "embedding or enclosing mass" first recorded 1640s. Logical sense of "array of possible combinations of truth-values" is attested from 1914. As a verb from 1951.

Within the context and use of the word within this thread, expanding the definition of the word to include the Etymological context, it would seem that ETC's have piss poor maternal values.

If one considers this etymological context as important as far as connecting the dots, it seems their priorities for life insofar as consideration of growth through discipline vs conflict is bias towards conflict.

TrumanCash, before all else, I'd like to thank you for your continuing efforts here. I'm reading this thread and am at page 2, but I felt compelled to comment. I haven't read your books, yet.

As food for thought, how come control of the planet by means of controlling the populance cannot be achieved by means that respect Law of Consent? It sounds like our ETCs started with a presumption analogous to "born a sinner". That dominance and control require repression or imply the requirement of punishment. Would it be fair to argue for them on the position that humanity is in it's infancy and sometimes good parents "spank" their kids?

Now clearly there is no going back, to fix the "problem" requires starting anew.

Maybe such experiments around greater Law of Consent compliance where carried out in the pre-1492 era of North and South American regions. Maybe someone knows more about this? Was there a "showdown" of sorts to determine which "upraising" ideology is superior?

Maybe I'm reaching. I appreciate your comments, of course.

[Daughter of Time]

Hmmmmmmmm.... my avatar has a checkered floor! Albeit blue and white...

In one of the "Teachings from Pleiades" books, the checkered issue is mentioned as having great significance across the universe.

The instruction given in such a book is that one should photograph images of any checkered board, floor, wall, ceiling, painting, object or whatever that one coincidentally comes across. The photo should be saved, dated, and notes of one's state of mind as well as whatever may be seemingly significant which is going on in one's life at the time of the taking of the photo.

After 27 photos have been taken, and this could take weeks, months or years, one should examine the photos, use the dates for their numerological significance, and read the notes in regards to what was going on in one's life at the time. This is supposed to give great clues as to one's journey on the planet at this particular time.

I'm wondering how you, Truman, feel about such instructions.

Thank you for the great posts.

[Gil Carlson]

TrumanCash,

I'm very impressed with your work!

After reading your several mentions of remote viewing, it occurred to me that the "Remote Viewing Aliens" book may be of interest to some of your readers as it seems to enhance your work.

blue-planet-project.com Remote-Viewing-Aliens-Book

[Hervé]

That chequered pattern was another one of those floating question I had churning at the back of my mind for a long while, figuring out that the masons were somehow dramatizing some kind of implant...

... and, one day, I ran into that fool, that "Pierrot," you know, a picture of an Arlequin (Harlequin in English)...


http://cdn.deguisetoi.fr/images/rep_articles/gra/de/deguisement-pierrot-homme_216550.jpg


... it finally clicked: the "Halver Implant," the Dichotomies, etc... all those GPMs (Goals - Problems - Masses)!


:jester:


Here is a description of "The Halver Implant" by "The Pilot":


It is done with a black and a white wave, which look almost like radiating screens on either side of you (but encompassing your body) It makes a pressure on the right and left sides of the head and shoulders It may cause headaches and affect vision. The same end-word is used on both sides You get "to be good is to agree" on one side while you get "to be evil is to agree" on the other (in other words, they wanted you to agree whether or not you choose to be either good or evil). This probably uses many of the agreements of universes dichotomies (aware/unconscious, strong/weak, etc) as the root word pairs.

The end words probably cycle down to "To .... is to crave sex" and "To .... is to crave bodies." I didn't do a lot with this one. It seems to be very late on the chain and keyed out with a little bit of ITSA. This probably means that its of little importance (but there's always a chance that its the tip of the iceberg too).
> By The Pilot (http://decoder.moy.su/index/implants/0-67), decodeqThat implant halves bodies vertically into left and right with differing goals and then horizontally into top and bottom with other opposite goals in its simplest form...

... and one gets that chequered pattern!

With that, one can unravel the dichotomy existing between bottom ("good") and top ("evil") of that 33 steps pyramidal structure... etc.... There is even some graphic representation of that occult pyramid that shows it with one side white and the other side black... floating around somewhere in this forum

So, there you have it, IMO, the whole of the "masonic" occult stuff:


A bloody implant!


And a lot of "figure-figure" going with it, of course, because it's all mysterious, etc..

I apologize to any readers whom I might have robbed of that "Ha-ah!" moment... :(


PS: Believe it or not, but this is Brittany's flag:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Flag_of_Brittany_%28Gwenn_ha_du%29.svg/130px-Flag_of_Brittany_%28Gwenn_ha_du%29.svg.png


... which originated from this precursor:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Banniel_Breizh_2.1.svg/220px-Banniel_Breizh_2.1.svg.png

[Hervé]

Here is what LRH said about that "Halver" in "A History of Man":


"THE HALVER: ...One of the processes thetans used on MEST bodies was a half-light, half-black gun which shot out a wave. Half of this wave, usually the black, hit the right side of the victim's body, the other half, in the same explosion, usually the light side, hit the left side of the victim. This had the effects of causing him to be two people.”

"The halver was rigged up with religious symbols and it truly lays in religion. There is a devil on one side, a symbol carried in the light, angels on the other side. Sometimes it was very fancy and was complicated with dolls in the shape of nudes, angels, devils, strung on wires to slide and dance."

"It did terrible things to the victim: it gave him a conflict, one side with the other, one being good: the other being bad. It gave him sexual compulsion all mixed up with religious compulsion so that an overdose of indulgence would send him to church sometimes into a life of crime. It was a control factor used to keep the community fighting itself."

"The halver lies as a basic under sexual malpractice, under religious fervour. It shows up in almost every preclear as being in chronic restimulation. It is the one the auditor runs as an overt act when the preclear has a sexual or religious motivator."

Fully dramatized by church clergy of most denominations... especially the Catholic one nowadays, with its troubles with pedophilia seeing the light of day, so to speak.

[TrumanCash]

The "halver" is a very interesting implant, eh? It appears to tie into the black/white and good/evil phenomenon and may even be one of the implants behind the black and white checkered pattern.

Also, isn't it interesting that the cartoons from the 50s and 60s used to depict and good angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other shoulder that tried to direct the behavior of the person? Perhaps that is also a phenomenon related to hitchhikers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52553-HITCHHIKERS--a-sort-of-partial-possession--and-how-to-handle-them&p=590690&viewfull=1#post590690) as well.


Here is what LRH said about that "Halver" in "A History of Man":


"THE HALVER: ...One of the processes thetans used on MEST bodies was a half-light, half-black gun which shot out a wave. Half of this wave, usually the black, hit the right side of the victim's body, the other half, in the same explosion, usually the light side, hit the left side of the victim. This had the effects of causing him to be two people.”

"The halver was rigged up with religious symbols and it truly lays in religion. There is a devil on one side, a symbol carried in the light, angels on the other side. Sometimes it was very fancy and was complicated with dolls in the shape of nudes, angels, devils, strung on wires to slide and dance."

"It did terrible things to the victim: it gave him a conflict, one side with the other, one being good: the other being bad. It gave him sexual compulsion all mixed up with religious compulsion so that an overdose of indulgence would send him to church sometimes into a life of crime. It was a control factor used to keep the community fighting itself."

"The halver lies as a basic under sexual malpractice, under religious fervour. It shows up in almost every preclear as being in chronic restimulation. It is the one the auditor runs as an overt act when the preclear has a sexual or religious motivator."

Fully dramatized by church clergy of most denominations... especially the Catholic one nowadays, with its troubles with pedophilia seeing the light of day, so to speak.

[Hervé]

...


:decision:

[TrumanCash]

The black/white checkered pattern in Freemasonry also represents the dialectic. It is interesting that there are at least two games of which I am aware that use a checker board. If one can own/control both sides of the game, both dark and light, good and evil, one can control and determine the outcome of the game. In this way one could also achieve "total freedom". One could do whatever one wants to do, even if its unethical or illegal since one controls both sides. No wonder why police and other government officials are involved in "brotherhoods".

It is also interesting that L. Ron Hubbard's "very good friend", Aleister Crowley, dedicated his life to "total freedom" ("Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law") and Hubbard developed his Bridge to "Total Freedom".

As I mentioned before, "total freedom" is a paradox. It is an impossible achievement because if one is totally free, one could be free to harm others and when that happens "the others" eventually end up taking away the perpetrators freedom.

From my own recent experience fifteen millennia ago and other past life recollections, total freedom is what got us into this mess in the first place. By harming others (violation of Law of Consent) implanting methods were developed to capture and control free beings ("OTs") who were exercising "total freedom".

[Hervé]

Good catch regarding those "brotherhoods"!

"Total freedom"... from what I understood, LRH was quite reluctant to let out any of his discoveries until he, apparently, discovered that, at the bottom of it all, a being is "basically good."

For some balanced summary of the OTO and that "whole of the law", see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58436-Forget-Scientology-celebs-Satanic-sex-cult-snaring-stars-such-as-Peaches-Geldof&p=664812&viewfull=1#post664812) (<---), this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58436-Forget-Scientology-celebs-Satanic-sex-cult-snaring-stars-such-as-Peaches-Geldof&p=664826&viewfull=1#post664826) (<---) as well as this blog-comment (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/going-clear-muddies-the-water/#comment-250096) (<---) and regarding Hubbard- Parson, see this blog-comment (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/scientology-squirrels-busted/#comment-198260) (<---).

Of course, it all depends on how one understands that "Do what thou wilt" to mean... IMO, taken at face value it means "Get hoisted with one's own petard" or, in scientologese: be effect of your own cause. That is, in other words, postulate something in the theta/magic universe and, then, in order to "do" as postulated, one has to "be" at manifestation level what the "doing" requires in order to "have" the total effect/end result of that postulate/"wilt." Never mind that such is against the second rule of "Magic": "Never be the effect of your own cause." Which is where everyone failed.

Back to that game of declaring the other half of a universe the "enemy" (one black, one white) and that's the war that's been going on for eons between the "Thought People" and "The Electronics People" (see post # 133 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=753959&viewfull=1#post753959) <---). No division, no war, no game... that's what's deemed "boring"... but, is it really?

[TrumanCash]

Regarding the "balanced" links given--I think they are part of outer "mystery" concept; that is, it is what they want the public to know about and what they want the lower initiates to know about. It says nothing about the inner "mystery" or higher levels of initiation where the real "secrets" and debauchery or blood letting take place. This is the point I have been making about "occultic" practices. There is a light side (outer, public) and a dark side (inner, very secret).



Good catch regarding those "brotherhoods"!

"Total freedom"... from what I understood, LRH was quite reluctant to let out any of his discoveries until he, apparently, discovered that, at the bottom of it all, a being is "basically good."

For some balanced summary of the OTO and that "whole of the law", see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58436-Forget-Scientology-celebs-Satanic-sex-cult-snaring-stars-such-as-Peaches-Geldof&p=664812&viewfull=1#post664812) (<---), this one (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58436-Forget-Scientology-celebs-Satanic-sex-cult-snaring-stars-such-as-Peaches-Geldof&p=664826&viewfull=1#post664826) (<---) as well as this blog-comment (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/going-clear-muddies-the-water/#comment-250096) (<---) and regarding Hubbard- Parson, see this blog-comment (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/scientology-squirrels-busted/#comment-198260) (<---).

Of course, it all depends on how one understands that "Do what thou wilt" to mean... IMO, taken at face value it means "Get hoisted with one's own petard" or, in scientologese: be effect of your own cause. That is, in other words, postulate something in the theta/magic universe and, then, in order to "do" as postulated, one has to "be" at manifestation level what the "doing" requires in order to "have" the total effect/end result of that postulate/"wilt." Never mind that such is against the second rule of "Magic": "Never be the effect of your own cause." Which is where everyone failed.

Back to that game of declaring the other half of a universe the "enemy" (one black, one white) and that's the war that's been going on for eons between the "Thought People" and "The Electronics People" (see post # 133 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=753959&viewfull=1#post753959) <---). No division, no war, no game... that's what's deemed "boring"... but, is it really?

[TrumanCash]

That chequered pattern was another one of those floating question I had churning at the back of my mind for a long while, figuring out that the masons were somehow dramatizing some kind of implant...

... and, one day, I ran into that fool, that "Pierrot," you know, a picture of an Arlequin (Harlequin in English)...


http://cdn.deguisetoi.fr/images/rep_articles/gra/de/deguisement-pierrot-homme_216550.jpg


... it finally clicked: the "Halver Implant," the Dichotomies, etc... all those GPMs (Goals - Problems - Masses)!


:jester:


Here is a description of "The Halver Implant" by "The Pilot":


It is done with a black and a white wave, which look almost like radiating screens on either side of you (but encompassing your body) It makes a pressure on the right and left sides of the head and shoulders It may cause headaches and affect vision. The same end-word is used on both sides You get "to be good is to agree" on one side while you get "to be evil is to agree" on the other (in other words, they wanted you to agree whether or not you choose to be either good or evil). This probably uses many of the agreements of universes dichotomies (aware/unconscious, strong/weak, etc) as the root word pairs.

The end words probably cycle down to "To .... is to crave sex" and "To .... is to crave bodies." I didn't do a lot with this one. It seems to be very late on the chain and keyed out with a little bit of ITSA. This probably means that its of little importance (but there's always a chance that its the tip of the iceberg too).
> By The Pilot (http://decoder.moy.su/index/implants/0-67), decodeqThat implant halves bodies vertically into left and right with differing goals and then horizontally into top and bottom with other opposite goals in its simplest form...

... and one gets that chequered pattern!

With that, one can unravel the dichotomy existing between bottom ("good") and top ("evil") of that 33 steps pyramidal structure... etc.... There is even some graphic representation of that occult pyramid that shows it with one side white and the other side black... floating around somewhere in this forum

So, there you have it, IMO, the whole of the "masonic" occult stuff:


A bloody implant!


And a lot of "figure-figure" going with it, of course, because it's all mysterious, etc..

I apologize to any readers whom I might have robbed of that "Ha-ah!" moment... :(


PS: Believe it or not, but this is Brittany's flag:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Flag_of_Brittany_%28Gwenn_ha_du%29.svg/130px-Flag_of_Brittany_%28Gwenn_ha_du%29.svg.png


... which originated from this precursor:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Banniel_Breizh_2.1.svg/220px-Banniel_Breizh_2.1.svg.png







It makes me wonder if the checkered floor of Ra's ship was knowingly and intentionally used to trigger this implant in Earthbound humans or if the designers of the floor of Ra's ship were themselves unknowingly acting out (dramatizing) this implant.

Amzer do you have any idea who "The Pilot" is or who the creators of the decoder.moy.su website are? It sounds like FreeZone auditors from the language used. And why the image of a Gray on their home page?

[Hervé]

Well, my using some simple arithmetic indicates that somehow, the "Halver" type of implants having been around far longer than Ra's space craft, it would seem that "they", too, were on the effect side of it; even though they might have used it or even be the "originators" of it... so, I guess, my answer would be "both": dramatizing that type of implant and also using its trigerring effect on "like-minded" individuals. A sort of brotherhood buildup by commonly activated implants :)

As for "The Pilot", see post # 105 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=622860&viewfull=1#post622860) (<---), his name was Ken Ogger and, indeed, a FreeZoner by agglomeration.

I do not know who the creators of the website are but, for sure, they don't belong to $CN "orthodoxy" anymore!

[TrumanCash]

Hmmmmmmmm.... my avatar has a checkered floor! Albeit blue and white...

In one of the "Teachings from Pleiades" books, the checkered issue is mentioned as having great significance across the universe.

The instruction given in such a book is that one should photograph images of any checkered board, floor, wall, ceiling, painting, object or whatever that one coincidentally comes across. The photo should be saved, dated, and notes of one's state of mind as well as whatever may be seemingly significant which is going on in one's life at the time of the taking of the photo.

After 27 photos have been taken, and this could take weeks, months or years, one should examine the photos, use the dates for their numerological significance, and read the notes in regards to what was going on in one's life at the time. This is supposed to give great clues as to one's journey on the planet at this particular time.

I'm wondering how you, Truman, feel about such instructions.

Thank you for the great posts.

Hi, DOT. Sorry for the delay in replying to your post. It is interesting that the checkered pattern would have significance in the "Teachings from Pleiades". However, I am not familiar with those books.

How do I feel about such instructions?--My viewpoint is that people can create their own journey on the planet. I think it is more relevant to use one's own intuition, consciously create one's own path/journey in a way that is harmonious and flows with life. This particular "Pleiades" teaching seems to be a bit too arbitrary and really unnecessary.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

L. Ron Hubbard's "very good friend", Aleister Crowley, recommended human sacrifice (a child) in Chapter XII of his book MAGICK IN THEORY AND PRACTICE (http://raumfahrer.wordpress.com/manson/crowley-on-sacrifice/):

OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE

"It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the bloody sacrifice, for this question is indeed traditionally important in Magick....

"For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim....Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavored to replace it with incense. For such a purpose the incense of Abramelin may be burnt in large quantities. Dittany of Crete is also a valuable medium. Both these incenses are very catholic in their nature, and suitable for almost any materialization. But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best.

[TrumanCash]

I would like to continue to analyze "Scientology" and L. Ron Hubbard as it provides a very good example of how social implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785302&viewfull=1#post785302) can be used to create a matrix of mind control. It also provides some insight on how to identify a sociopath.

Ironically, what Hubbard did was to research and discover, with the help of many dedicated people, how to disable psychological implants (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=785295&viewfull=1#post785295), including past life implants. However, in doing so, he created an organization that became a social implant, which he called the "Church of Scientology". The current "church" is being run by a blatant sociopath, David Miscavige.

Unfortunately, it was Hubbard's own unethical, criminal and aberrant behavior that he hard-wired into the very structure of this so-called "church".

Although I never knew L. Ron Hubbard personally, I have direct experience of Dianetics and Scientology as I was on the staff of two of the Scientology organizations (called "Orgs"). I also have interviewed numerous people who knew Ron Hubbard personally in their current lifetime as well as people who knew him in their previous lifetime. However, one only needs to use an internet search engine and YouTube to hear the testimonies of the many people who knew L. Ron Hubbard personally.

L. Ron Hubbard appears to have built his "church" on the light/dark principle of the occult. He even coined the term "Black Dianetics (http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/black-dianetics-in-radical-scientology-introduction/)", which he used (and the current "church" uses) to attack perceived enemies. For example, Hubbard's policy of "fair game (http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html)" allowed Scientologists to declare anyone they don't like to be a "suppressive person" who can "be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed." This, of course, is not only unethical, it is illegal. On the light side, much of the "technology" can be very beneficial for people, which Hubbard called "White Dianetics". He had a public face which was benevolent and charming and yet he had a very dark side that was hidden from most Scientologists. (Even with the internet now most ex-Scientologists do not take the time to investigate Hubbard's dark side.) He also had secret policies that only certain people were allowed to read (e.g., Guardian's Office policy, later called "Office of Special Affairs"). David Mayo was one of many people who provided an inside look at L. Ron Hubbard's secret and dark behavior.

David Mayo (http://community.freezone-tech.info/david-mayo/) was the Senior Case Supervisor International for Scientology and was one of Hubbard's personal auditors who saved his life in 1978 (http://community.freezone-tech.info/david-mayo/1996/05/david-mayo-on-the-origin-of-nots/). At one point Hubbard wanted David Mayo to takeover the technology division of Scientology. According to an affidvit by David Mayo: "The technology of Dianetics and Scientology is a product of the efforts of many people, including myself, and among others, Melanie Murray, Julie Mayo, Merrill Mayo, Dona Haber, Brian Livingston, and Phoebe Mauer. Moreover, I am the primary source of NOTs and SOLO NOTs." [NOTS stands for New Era Diantics for Operating Thetans and is what is collectively known as the upper OT levels 5 through 7.]

The following are quotes from the David Mayo interview from BARE-FACED MESSIAH (http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/bare-faced-messiah.pdf) about L. Ron Hubbard:

"He [Hubbard] could be capable of incredible cruelty. On the ship there was an old man on the Royal Scotman who he made push a peanut round the decks with his nose. He had to get down on his hands and knees, he had to go round the deck, quite a long distance in a race with one or two others also in trouble. The first one back got let off and the last one got a double penalty. It was really tough on this old guy, Charlie Reisdorf. The surface of the deck was very rough wood, prone to splinter, so after pushing peanuts with their noses, they all had raw, bleeding noses, leaving a trail of blood behind them. I not only saw it but the entire crew of the ship was mustered - a mandatory attendance - we were required to watch this punishment, to make an example of it for the rest of us. Reisdorf was in his late 50s probably. His two daughters were messengers, they were 11 or 12 at time and his wife was there also. It was hard to say which was worse to watch: this old guy with a bleeding nose or his wife and kids sobbing and crying at being forced to watch this. Hubbard was standing there calling the shots, yelling, "Faster, Faster!". It was indignity, degradation and breaking a person's will, and making people watch. It was disgusting."

"They used to have people locked in the chain locker, including small children. It was very dangerous because if the anchor started to slip and start running out, it would turn a body into pulp in no time at all. I saw children locked up in the chain locker." [Also, hear Hana Whitfield's chain lock testimony here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd00GtwXcYQ) about a four-year old boy who Hubbard had locked up in the chain locker for two days and nights for chewing a telex.]

"What worried me was when I saw things he did and statements he made that showed his intentions were different from what they appeared to be. I began to realise he wasn't acting for the public good or for the benefit of mankind, it worked partly that way and he may have started out like that, but in later years, in his own words, he had "an insatiable lust for power and money".

"He told me he was obsessed by "an insatiable lust for power and money". He said it very emphatically. He thought it wasn't possible to get enough. He didn't say it as if it was a fault, just his frustration that he couldn't get enough."

[TrumanCash]

Hubbard made a practice of imprisoning people under unconscionable conditions, sometimes with extreme hard labor, sleep deprivation, food restrictions served in a slop bucket, no bathroom facilities, etc. These are some of the techniques used in MKUltra-style mind control. The modern American prison system is not even close to being that bad. However, he presented a benevolent face to the public saying imprisonment doesn't rehabilitate people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l-ObSeXvLw).

At sea, he had "total freedom" to use and abuse people since it was not under the jurisdiction of any country.

"Hubbard said that maritime law prevailed, like in days of Hornblower, when the captain of ship has the power of God Almighty. He said under maritime law he had total power over everyone on the vessel." [David Mayo interview from BARE-FACE MESSIAH (http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/books/bare-faced-messiah.pdf)]

He made a daily practice of throwing people overboard which is in itself a violent, criminal act. The ship was about three stories above the water so one hit the water hard and sometimes it caused injuries. If anyone laughed or did not show that they were terrorized by it, they were blindfolded or had their hands or feet tied before being thrown overboard. The harbors often had raw sewage floating in them. I personally know two people that he had thrown overboard, one of whom remarked that a turd floated by his face when he surfaced. Hubbard watched from above and sometimes even laughed or made derisive remarks. He appeared to enjoy terrorizing people.

[Tyy1907]

I wonder if Hubbard was infiltrated by some alien/demonic force. Thats blatant sadistic behavior.

[Hervé]

Infested would probably be more accurate...

[TrumanCash]

I wonder if Hubbard was infiltrated by some alien/demonic force. Thats blatant sadistic behavior.

That is an interesting question to ponder. Could it be that some occult rituals could attract sociopathic beings to inhabit one's body? Is that what happened? It is my experience (and we discussed this in earlier posts) that most certainly more than one being can inhabit a body. The Catholic church, of course, recognizes this principle in exorcisms. Shamanism also includes the idea of other (disembodied) entities existing. Not counting ET influences and technology, people can and do "channel" or otherwise telepathically communicate with beings who do not have a body or who inhabit one's own body. This is not a new thing by any means.

Scientologists are programmed not to talk about such things, but it is not a big secret. This has been known for ages. What Hubbard did do that is in my view a very important breakthrough (with the help of many other people), is to expand on the knowledge of this phenomenon to the point of helping these other beings (using modern technology). Unfortunately, he himself did not get a full handle on all of this. This was reported by David Mayo and also others who knew Hubbard right before he died.

[TrumanCash]

Infested would probably be more accurate...

It appears that Hubbard would have agreed with your comment as evidenced by Steve Pfauth in this interview (https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/tag/steve-sarge-pfauth/).

[Hervé]

Infested would probably be more accurate...

It appears that Hubbard would have agreed with your comment as evidenced by Steve Pfauth in this interview (https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/tag/steve-sarge-pfauth/).

... which I referenced in post # 177 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=839369&viewfull=1#post839369) and which indeed fostered my post # 201 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=844677&viewfull=1#post844677) comment :)

... because, one has to integrate in LRH's wider picture that he not only p*ss*d off many intelligence agencies but equally the many cults and "secret sects/brotherhoods" using engramic methods of mind-control when he published his Dianetics book (remember that the Bush and Rockefeller families' CIA are Skull & Bones (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26195-POLICE-STATE-How-it-came-about-in-the-US-of-A) and/or affiliated).

According to LRH, it's just standard political operating procedure to use discarnated proxies to do their job:


Body in pawn: Something floating in fluid or under an electronic -- constant electronic bath. You'll find these described: They're lying on a pallet or something of the sort; the body is completely motionless. And at the foot of this will be something that looks like a window, and it's not a window.

Occasionally you'll run into a place where they're holding a body in pawn. That is, a body is held here, and it is hypnotized or knocked out and the person is told that he belongs here but must go over here and live. You know, a guy in Afghanistan is hypnotized and they say: "Now you live in Bremerton, Washington" and he'd go to Bremerton, Washington; he's under compulsion. A hypnotist will hypnotize somebody and make him travel or astral walk. Hypnotists know about this. Well, they didn't realize you could do it with magnitude, and you can. You can almost move the whole individual out.

Let me tell you some of the things that can be done to a human being, and understand that I am still talking about theta bodies because there's not any difference except a human being and his mind as he exists today - Homo Sapiens - it's just more of them.

You can hypnotize a human being or drug a human being and move him as a theta body, in all or in part, to remote distances and have him observe or act or communicate and move back to his body again. This has many descriptive phrases such as "astral walking". The point is that you can actually hypnotize yourself, this is one theta body hypnotizing another theta body inside yourself and send that other theta body off to some vast distance and observe something and have it come back and so on.

This is very common. Your hypnotist knows this manifestation very well. These are very elementary, quite well known manifestations. Self hypnosis is one line hypnotizing another line - in you.... now... add to that picture the various ET factions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67668-Courtney-Brown-Announcement-for-February--now-March--2014&p=789305&viewfull=1#post789305) using even more sophisticated stealth, entranced, dedicated cruise missiles having that LRH body as a target... or any political, financial or otherwise influential figure of planet Earth...

The above ties in with this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72065-Is-this-too-simplistic-a-solution-to-Wifi-radiation&p=844729&viewfull=1#post844729) (<---) as well.

[Hervé]

[...]

.... David St. Lawrence, who talks openly about this subject and provides a refreshing, new approach to this fascinating phenomenon (http://spiritual-rescue-technology.com/?p=9).

When I wrote post # 172 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=834589&viewfull=1#post834589), I wasn't even aware of any of David St. Lawrence materials and it was therefore very validating to read his own conclusions on that same subject at the link you provided :)

My own road to Rome started with Franz Erdl (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=517935&viewfull=1#post517935), then Steve Richards (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics&p=509594&viewfull=1#post509594) and finally "Patrick (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=834589&viewfull=1#post834589)."

With those and what's happening on this forum and others, there seems to be a quickening of a congruence towards real, effective and efficient understanding from all quarters!

[TrumanCash]

When I wrote post # 172 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=834589&viewfull=1#post834589), I wasn't even aware of any of David St. Lawrence materials and it was therefore very validating to read his own conclusions on that same subject at the link you provided :)

My own road to Rome started with Franz Erdl (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=517935&viewfull=1#post517935), then Steve Richards (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics&p=509594&viewfull=1#post509594) and finally "Patrick (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=834589&viewfull=1#post834589)."

With those and what's happening on this forum and others, there seems to be a quickening of a congruence towards real, effective and efficient understanding from all quarters![/QUOTE]

Thanks for your post, Amzer and, BTW, thanks for reminding me that you had already posted Steve "Sarge" Pfauth's interview (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=839369&viewfull=1#post839369) earlier.

Yes, I agree that there has been an increasing awareness of this phenomenon which was in existence and being dealt with by shaman long before Hubbard applied the E-meter and his personal approach to it. I think his being involved in the occult may have led him down this path since the occult practices often involve discarnate beings.

I also think it is about time that we speak more openly about such things (as you have been doing). Hubbard attempted to create a great mystery about such things by making the pre-OT levels, two through seven, extremely secret. Obviously, it is now not secret at all.

I remember reading about the OT III incident on the front page of a mainstream newspaper in 1983. I thought it was a joke at the time so I mentioned it in a group of Scientologists and an OT VII sternly reprimanded me for talking about it. Now it's all over the internet and "body thetans" (aka "BTs") are rapidly becoming a household word. For those who are unfamiliar with this term, they are simply beings in and around the body with which one can communicate. Hubbard tried to scare people into believing that if anyone became aware of the OT III incident they would get sick and die. We now know that that is not true. I recently learned from a very experienced auditor that he had ran three people through this incident with great success and one of them was not even "clear". None of the three people had read or heard anything about the incident before running it. They did not get sick and die.

However, one should not try to do this without expert supervision and training. As I personally discovered, one can experience uncomfortable negative side effects if not run properly. For that matter that would apply to all auditing IMO.

I was told by a Class VIII auditor that Hubbard referred to body thetans as "fleas", which I think is a negative, demeaning approach. Hubbard seemed to want to attack anyone and everyone who disagreed with him. IMO he was not spiritually centered and sought to dominate and exert power of other beings. Hubbard was his own worst enemy in this respect. If Hubbard had taken more of a Ghandi approach to life, he would have fared much better. How often did Hubbard speak of Love or living in harmony or flowing with life instead of being aggressive, assertive and domineering? I think that the approach of others like "Patrick", David St. Lawrence and the others you linked to, is a more effective one and creates the most harmony.

This is not to say that Hubbard's approach is not effective, but that it should be done with love and caring. Using an E-meter to assist the process was certainly a new approach vis-a-vis the shamanistic, traditional approaches. However, in the final analysis if Steve Pfauth was telling the truth about Hubbard being infested with body thetans at the end of his life, then there appears to be something missing in his "tech".

Here is an interesting audio recording with transcript of Hubbard's early E-meter research into body thetans in 1952 (http://rutube.ru/video/465ebe29c4e8e88e439faea0adc80211/?ref=logo). For those who are unfamiliar with Hubbardspeak, he uses the words "theta" and "entheta" a lot in this recording. In layman's terms "theta" means spirit in a good sense, while "entheta" mean spirit in a negative sense. Also, for clarification, not all discarnate beings are "body thetans".

BTW, I have two friends who were working with Hubbard on the OT III incident in the early 1950s in their last lifetime.

[Hervé]

Thanks Truman, for the appreciation and for those nuggets from your experience and connections.

There is one conundrum that can now be either solved or complicated further and that's the number of individuals who can genuinely claim to have been "Cleopatra" or "Napoleon"... how many hypnotized, entranced, discarnated, dedicated, live cruise missiles were sent their way to "be them" and act and behave as "them"? With a "Go and take over that b*tch/balding guy and be her/him until you manage to get her/him in troubles..." from their opponents whereas their friends and allies would send "armies" of supporters, defenders and "bodyguards"...

I listen to that MSH/LRH session and, indeed, LRH exudes that Draco/Mantid disdain/contempt for the galactic, inter-density "riffraff"/sheeples. Also variously known as "raw-meat," WOGs and "WHAT has rights!?!" The same kind of contempt dramatized by Earth's "aristocracy" towards their serfs/goys.

[TrumanCash]

I listen to that MSH/LRH session and, indeed, LRH exudes that Draco/Mantid disdain/contempt for the galactic, inter-density "riffraff"/sheeples. Also variously known as "raw-meat," WOGs and "WHAT has rights!?!" The same kind of contempt dramatized by Earth's "aristocracy" towards their serfs/goys.

Yes, and Hubbard's treatment of Sea Org members by imprisoning, torturing, domineering and otherwise invalidating them appears to validate your assessment of his elitist viewpoint. What is most significant is that he considered his "case" to be normal and a standard by which to structure auditing for everyone in what he called "The Bridge".

According to David Mayo: "Hubbard has always thought that his case was representative of other people’s cases and that what had been run on him in his auditing should be run on others. I recall him once saying that he had a `standard case’. This is one factor that influenced the presentation of the NOTs materials." [Source (http://community.freezone-tech.info/david-mayo/1996/05/david-mayo-on-the-origin-of-nots/)]

I think that this is a very significant point to look at since Hubbard obviously exhibited many sociopathic behaviors that most people consider totally unacceptable and criminal. There were at least two times in Hubbard's life where he was near death and it may very well have been caused by his unethical, unconscionable treatment of others (and not OT III material). As any one familiar with Scientology knows, transgressions against others ("overts") and keeping those transgressions/sins secret ("withholds") can greatly interfere with auditing (and life itself!) if not properly addressed. According to all the many eyewitness accounts of Hubbard's behavior, he must have had a ton of them!

[Hervé]

Yep! Agreed!

't was a case of "enforcing one's case" onto the whole of the following... not good.

Otto Roos (D. Mayo's predecessor) was appalled at LRH's case state:


LRH has more out tech on his case than ten people combined. He gave us a technology towards immortality, but he denied himself the only thing which could have saved him: auditing.

...

The great tragedy of it all is not even that he got caught in his overts to the extent that in the end virtually everything restimulated his OUT RUDS, but is the fact that he finally penalised himself horribly by denying himself the only thing which could have saved him, his own creation, AUDITING. [signed: O.J. Roos] (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/roos-signature.gif)

From: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/roos/roos-story.html (http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/roos/roos-story.html)

[TrumanCash]

It appears that mainstream "science" is not quite ready to meet spirituality vis-a-vis body thetans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_thetan), hitchhikers (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52553-HITCHHIKERS--a-sort-of-partial-possession--and-how-to-handle-them&p=590690&viewfull=1#post590690), and other discarnate beings. An interesting article by a Turkish medical researcher, M. Kemal Irmak, entitled "Schizophrenia or Possession (http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/06/published_scientific_paper_blames_schizophrenia_on_demons.html)", published in the Journal of Religion and Health (http://link.springer.com/journal/10943), has recently stirred up some controversy in the medical field.

This article (excerpts below) also reveals that L Ron Hubbard was not the first to "discover" body thetans and hitchhikers and that there is no legitimate reason for secrecy about them, as demanded by Hubbard, because people in many cultures have known about them since time immemorial. [For those unfamiliar with the term "body thetans", it is Hubbardspeak for beings in and around the body. "Thetan" is Hubbardspeak for a spiritual being. See Wikipedia for full explanation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_thetan).]

NOTE: In Irmak's article he refers to "demons" which was derived from the Latin word, "daemon", meaning "spirit". In modern context we usually think of "demon" as being an evil or destructive being, so Irmak also cites the existence of "good" demons.

Excerpts from M. Kemal Irmak's article:

"In our region, demons are believed to be intelligent and unseen creatures that occupy a parallel world to that of mankind. In many aspects of their world, they are very similar to us....Through their powers of flying and invisibility, they are the chief component in occult activities. The ability to possess and take over the minds and bodies of humans is also a power which the demons have utilized greatly over the centuries (Littlewood 2004; Gadit and Callanan 2006; Ally and Laher 2008). Most scholars accept that demons can possess people and can take up physical space within a human’s body (Asch 1985). They possess people for many reasons. Sometimes it is because they have been hurt accidentally, but possession may also occur because of love (Ashour 1989; Philips 1997). When the demon enters the human body, they settle in the control center of the body–brain."

"There exist similarities between the clinical symptoms of schizophrenia and demonic possession. Common symptoms in schizophrenia and demonic possession such as hallucinations and delusions may be a result of the fact that demons in the vicinity of the brain may form the symptoms of schizophrenia... The hallucination in schizophrenia may therefore be an illusion—a false interpretation of a real sensory image formed by demons... On the other hand, auditory hallucinations expressed as voices arguing with one another and talking to the patient in the third person may be a result of the presence of more than one demon in the body."

Irmak describes a personal anecdote about a local faith healer in Turkey who employs "good" demons to expel evil ones. Based on this experience, Irmak concludes:

"Above considerations have led to the suggestion that it is time for medical professions to consider the possibility of demonic possession in the etiology of schizophrenia, especially in the cases with hallucinations and delusions. Therefore, it would be useful for medical professions to work together with faith healers to define better treatment pathways for schizophrenia."

Other articles by M. Kemal Irmak here (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=m+kemal+irmak)

[Hervé]

Looking for something else, I found this:

[edit: on considering Truman's remark on this post, I'll take a swing at explaining theta line and theta body from where the rest of the excerpts can be easily followed with the help of one's favorite search engine.

Theta line: In this case a line is the continuous, consecutive and/or concomitant time track/recording of one particular individuation of a theta unit, that is, a "being" or spiritual individual able to "live," perceive, experience in any space-time density/dimension or outside of space-time and still be sovereign and aware of itself as itself.

Theta body: the energetic manifestation of a theta being (thetan) within a physical density/dimension which retains its own individual space, integrity and signature, and is able to record the experiences of the theta being as a "theta line." An approximate could be what's assumed to be an astral "body" outside any biological auric field and without any attachments, hitchhikers or other squatters.

To keep in mind: Homo sapiens is constituted of an agglomerate (composite) of one or more theta line(s), a genetic line and a biological (protoplasmic) line,]


R & D Volume 10 16 April 1952 Anatomy of the Theta body

A human being, what we're calling today Homo sapiens, is a composite of about 7 Theta lines. And these theta lines are each one a theta body in its own right. And some of these 7 are slightly composite. Now these are theta bodies. They come together, from their first level, into a greater and greater degree of complexities simply by adding new lines or adding new bodies. And this is no more and no less complicated than taking the digit 2, which is evidently by the basic unit, and then we add 2 more or we add there and, then, we add 2 more on top of that. These are usually 3 specific incidents on the track which are additive incidents - call them in slang "joiners". And these lines come together then.

Now, here you have, then, the basic unit of 2. Back of that, these 2 have broken away from the main body of Theta, 2 or 3 minor incidents have occurred, and we get down to this basic unit of 2. That's "joiner" one. Usually one faces forward and one faces back [the two-faced angels displayed in some cathedrals' statuaries]. They are put together face to face. Now, these are outside of any universe that we know about. They begin outside of any universe that we know about. And they have the potentialities of goals. And each one probably has a slightly different goal than the other one, so that you get a good balance between the two. They have agreed on what their goals are and they've also agreed that their goals are different.

In this first duo, the first double, one of these theta lines is slightly senior to the other. And that, you will find, as the others peel off, is the native, controlling natural you, and that's what you recognize as you. You say "who am I?" Well, it is the senior of the 1st duo and the conduct of the senior of the first duo is modified by the junior of those 2 and is then modified by the additive lines on and on and on until the senior of those is quite normally asleep - gone. As far as he's concerned, he believes he's dead, or he has strange ideas about himself. His ideas of awareness - he's sort of delegated everything to everything else. He's in apathy, really - Homo sapiens. The activities in which people engage are quite normally carried through the lower levels of the Theta lines.

p. 300
Then your added 2 or 3 permits the first 2 to have a body. And his body, possibly, has many descriptions - you can get it variously described - but it doesn't have perceptions, really, as we know perceptions because you still have theta body awareness of immortality and continuance and perceiving. Now, on the entrance into the MEST universe, there is an additional addition. As additive factors, these lines are coming together, and each time you have more composite for a body. Now, that's what's important, because these things are making a body or they're entering bodies and so on.

Then you get what we call the Genetic line. Now, this genetic line which produces your present body, actually is a continuance through the MEST universe here on earth. And you didn't join this line (Genetic) as the composite theta body line "You" until - well, varying terms of years ago, maybe 2, 3 or 10,000 years ago. But this genetic line has its own theta body, and as the Greeks said, its mind was in the stomach. It carried what you might call a theta body line in the stomach. That was its center of awareness. And when it was joined, it was joined in the head by the other lines. In short, you had a genetic line coming along and being joined by an already composite (Theta) line.

Now the composite (Theta) line had what you might call a "Stomach Theta Body" or a "Stomach Soul". And this stomach soul and the genetic line soul are overlaid in the middle of the body. And their conflicts, upsets and so forth are many. And there is your anxiety stomach, your general fear reactions.

And the theta body composite that comes in on the theta body line - not the genetic line - this composite - line stomach soul is quite often, if not almost always, psychotic.

That stomach soul is psychotic: It has been through just one too many and a little bit too much. And it's interesting that you can take this particular theta body and bring it up to the present time and knock out an anxiety stomach very easily, or even let this entity go away.

Now, this is more or less an average number of standard lines that make up the composite which is referred to as[I] Homo sapiens. It's interesting - and extremely interesting - that none of these lines need any of the other lines to be a complete entity, but they are joined together. They are under compulsion and they are under duress, because they have been used, they have been abused and they have been united for other purposes than those in the best interests of self determinism.

Now, riding over the top of this whole line all the way down through the universes to now, evidently, is the first duo. The first double, the basic unit, two. And one of these theta line is slightly senior to the other. And that, you will find, as the others peel off, is the native, controlling, rational you, and that's what you recognize as you.

p. 301
These theta lines have anatomical positions in the body. You'll know where they are, what they do, what they try to control. It is very interesting that they are not necessary any of these added lines, to control the body. The central senior soul, the central senior theta line, is itself completely capable of doing the entire job. And the person could be considered a Clear only if he were monitored and governed solely from this unity of one.

p. 301 - 302
The 7 "chakras": Now the theta body of the genetic line could, of course, swell up and take entire command of the body, and so could any other theta lines we have. Any of them could take over almost or complete control of the body, or can take over a sectional control of the body.

And what are we looking at now? We're looking at theta bodies in their essence. A theta body, then, is nothing more and nothing less than the personality you talk to everyday. And it has no difference whatsoever between itself, in an aberrated state, and a human being, at any given moment. Because at any given moment, a human being is actually running on one theta body.

A human being, Homo sapiens, as he exists today in a normal state, is a composite of these theta bodies. But he is manifesting, usually, only one of these personalities. The bulk of them, but not the first 2, (the duo) are psychotic. The bulk of the theta bodies which are different than those first 2 are psychotic: you ask them to come up to present time and you get snapped at and snarled at. Anyone of them forms the foundation of what we called earlier in Dianetics "demon circuitry".

p. 302-303
The demon circuitry sits as individual obsessions in the composite theta body. And these theta bodies, being low toned and in a somewhat hypnotic and neurotic (at least) state, will copy and mimic other human beings which they observe or feel in their environment. [microcosm and macrocosm]. And they will hold these imitations, and they will hold onto the aberrations which they observe. And they are very confused, normally; they are extremely confused. They do not know there are any other theta bodies present, and they are just as willing to hurt a body as to help it. What is this soul's (right hand soul) regard toward this body? Very often you'll get something very foggy: "What body?" Sometimes you'll get "Well, I got to kill him" and so on.

Do they respond all to the same mechanics? Or are there such things as demons, idle spirits, devils, any one of these things, or are they just psychotics or what? And it turns out after a great deal of research that they're just normal or neurotic or psychotic, and so on, in their effects on the preclear. The anatomy, then, of a composite theta body which is you, is traceable back down this minimum - minimum as far as I've been able to determine - of 7; the minimum is 7. Now, why do I say minimum? It's because every one of those joiners has put into every one of these theta bodies the compulsion to pick up more theta bodies. And it does so just automatically, so that somebody comes along and he commits an over act - he kills our old friend Bill, and then he says, "Gee!" This is too bad, I've killed Bill..." He's got Bill: He's got the composite of Bill - He's got all of Bill. (life continuum)

And it actually can get down to a point where the composite "you" - fortunately, very lightly so - can actually be influenced by 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of Theta lines. You're just sort of holding them trapped. And they've tried to go back and go where they are supposed to go between lives, and they try to do this and they try to do that. Maybe they are [too] groggy [and] they don't know enough to do this, and so on.

p. 304
You take somebody who is really sick, and you run out an over act, if you get a grief charge on it or, if you reduce this overt act, you have probably jettisoned a captured theta body, just like that.

Now, it's wonderful what the aberrations are on this theta line. The aberration of the theta body is fabulous because it is very standard. There are very few of them. And they are best described by reading the bottom of the Chart of Attitudes, - plus two columns.

Now what happens to these theta lines? What happens to them when they become psychotic or neurotic or normal? They simply run down the line with less and less sense, with less and less power, with less and less direction, and so arrive at what the spiritualist normally referred to as the idle spirit.

The psychotic theta body is what we call "demons" in their varying magnitude - genres and so forth. If you want to know, then, what an aberrated theta body looks like, just look at an aberrated human being. And you are looking at an approximation of this.

Now, it has some specific obsession with which you should be very well familiar, and these obsessions are:
1 - It has to have a body
2 - It has to be perceiving through a body's perceptic channel otherwise he cannot see, hear, feel, etc...
These are plants by the way. These are mostly implanted into the theta body.

Theta beings: the top senior entity and the one which will preserve as the preclear = "I"

p. 308 Entities = The remaining Theta bodies.
Idle Entities - The ones collected along. The idle entities are actually theta beings which have run downhill to the point where they're practically out the bottom. They couldn't have a body if - by the way, that's where all these beings go eventually. They just peel off downhill until they suddenly no longer are capable of having bodies, they're so thoroughly stuck on the track. Well, there are these idle beings/entities.

Q: Would you call those vampires?

Well, they'd be vampires all right. Ok. Now those come in on the individual - they come in on the individual but not unhidden: He asked for them. Or one of his entities asked for them, authorizedly or unauthorizedly, out of compulsion to join up. Therefore, you have this stack that looks like this: First there's a theta being. Now, it has commingled in company, but hasn't commingled in identity, with a second being. Now, this other being is pretty senior and probably won't leave. These 2 - the basic unit/duo then have added entities, one after the other. And these entities, in turn, have enough compulsion on them to add in even more beings, so that you eventually wind up with a very large number. Now, an entity, then, is classifiable to the degree that any entity may have an elsewhere body - for a Homo sapiens at the present time - any entity may have an elsewhere body. These idle ones generally don't.

The theta being normally faces forward and is in the head and can emanate there into the whole body and can be the whole body. And when your preclear is well, when he is well disposed, when he's in good condition and so on, it will be this being that he is.

The second one has different goals but he is sort of partner to the second one and it normally consider itself to be facing back in the head (the two-faced angels). There is where it's most easily reached.

p. 311
The body (GE) is joined by the Theta being and the other entities just before birth. And these beings have the strange obsession that they have to join the body by an entrance through the mouth. Odd, this is an old, old, old superstition, and it's evidently true, but it's just a compulsion. And it's just before birth ordinarily, when this happens. The somatic entity is running the body up to that point. Then it's getting to run the control panels of a [747 or the space shuttle] - so you get a year or 2 before the baby is able to care for its whole body and operate.

Now, it gets along for quite a while. Along about 6-7-8-9 a child is very accurate - his reaction time is very good. And then, of course, somebody comes along and punishes him or sends him to school or tortures him or grinds him for hamburgers - does something to him. And at that moment the Theta being fails.

Well, one of the things that it fails on is school, by the way, is it knows it: It knows all this. And then somebody comes along and says: "Now, you have to learn this, and we're going to punish you unless you learn it." "Why do I have to learn what I know?" And you get an awful confusion at that point. And that starts to send the theta being down in tone.

Well, from there on out it takes maybe just one operation, one accident: The Theta being goes back of this switchboard, and one by one these other entities will take over that switchboard and the theta being is trying to operate through these other entities: Delegation of authority. He says: "I can no longer trust myself. Maybe Pete or Suze can do it." But what is this now? You're getting one being going out and entities cutting in. Although the body is very definitely in the hands of some entity, the theta being pushes solutions through on a problem here or a problem there. And you can actually snap the theta being into giving your responses simply by asking for flash answers. He's not really just a file clerk : It's "THE" PC!

Now, when you start to audit this person, the first thing which you ought to know is: How many psychos do you have on your hands? Who's stuck on the track?

You can reduce psychosis to this definition:

Psychosis : is the condition of an entity or "idle spirit" moving in to control, but being stuck on the track.

With thought, emotion and effort - either by making the preclear move over the top of the entity and push it on through - you then bring this entity out of its era - the incident he is stuck in - and you bring him into present time. And one after the other, you spot and straighten up these entities.

The only reason you are trying to take these entities and other things present out of the way is that you want them out of the way so that you can audit the Theta being.

p. 313
A circuit is quite real, but a circuit happens to be a being -- an entity, or an idle one -- mimicking.

A preclear who goes low enough on the tone scale will get into a physiological rapport or a mental rapport with somebody and will mimic, mimic, mimic. That's hypnotism, and these entities will actually copy other people. They'll copy other people so thoroughly that they'll get their identity confused with those people - thoroughly confused with them, so that you get this kind of manifestations. [swapping valences with the 'winning' valence, i.e. the valence that controls the preclear].

You start running this entity back, and you find this entity is somebody that the preclear knew at one time or another, and it isn't at all. You can shake this lose rapidly by just blowing a few locks.

p. 314
This entity will make an effort to control your preclear by imitating the people who have controlled the preclear. That's the goal. All their compulsion was laid in by people who wanted to control them. And so, their efforts to control will be efforts to punish. So one of the first things they'll do is try to influence thought. If that fails, they'll influence emotion; if that fails, they will turn on somatics and hold them on. Or they will simply imitate some person who has been able to control the preclear such as Papa, Mama, teachers, something like that. They'll imitate the mannerisms and activities of this and so control the preclear. Actually, the recognition of their existence, and that they do have an identity which is distinct and separate from the people they are imitating, and the recognition on the part of the being that that entity is there, practically kills their power.

The case of the chronic somatic is something that you'll find yourself resolving in 15 or 20 minutes, simply by building up recognition on the part of the theta being.

Now, when we've talked about communicating with your hands, with your liver, with somebody else, what we were doing was taking the theta being and pushing him, as a control, into an area which he had not hitherto controlled.

p. 315
Entities have been so hammered and pounded and driven by the compulsive attitudes of people who have tried to control us back through history that: what's their first shift? Each one can do valence shifts, by the way, they are very good mimics. And so they become people who have tried to control us and their only method of operation that they know or can follow, unless they are brought up to a point where they'll think again, is to force with pain, to force with threat, to force with aberrations. A MEST-force operation on the preclear. So when a preclear has a chronic somatic, you know immediately that he has an entity that is trying to force something on to him and that this entity is not the Theta being.

p. 316
Circuit: A circuit is a psychotic stuck somewhere on the track who keeps mimicking somebody. (papa, mama, etc...)

Mimicking Mama or mimicking Papa or doing a mimic job and so on, but quite psychotic. They have data banks. Every one of them has data banks. What do you do about a perceptic shutoff case? You just find out who it happened to. If the perceptics are shut off, then you're auditing one of them that didn't have it happen to them, or auditing the one that did have it happen to him who's stuck on the track before he can perceive.

p. 334
A person is operated on. All theta bodies are asleep except one (GE); this one observes everything there is and then you run the person through the operation. What you've done is wake up 6 bodies if you run him through it thoroughly.

Now, awareness means awareness of what? What's awareness? There are a minimum of 7 awarenesses. Which one of these awarenesses are you reducing when you give a person anaesthetics? And how many of them are you sending away? How many of them are you holding onto?

Running back through incidents you will find preclears out of valence. Well, that is to say, you're running a theta body which wasn't the theta body to which this incident happened, but the theta body which observed it happening to the other theta body who was in command then.

p. 335
It happened to theta body A, and as you run him through the incident, you're running theta body B through the incident, so theta body B goes through the incident. And where was it where the incident took place? Well, oddly enough, time and space have very little to do with this, and so theta body B thought nothing of standing out in the middle of the room and watching it, particularly if there was charge on it.

You try to run childhood out of somebody and they've shifted into 5 consecutive theta bodies since. The 5th body over these didn't even know the person had ever been a child. It was just out, it had nothing to do with the childhood.

p. 336-337
Another manifestation of which theta lines are completely capable of is stepping into other people. And they do. They just step into somebody else.

If a theta line is very mixed up and can't get control of a person in any other way, it will step into person B and activate some theta line in person B so as to do something to person A. You get that?

Here's a theta line that's in person A, and person A is not under the control of this theta line; this theta line is quite psycho and very possessive, or something of the sort. This theta body will step around into another person and motivate them into getting angry at A. And then: yap, yap, yap, yap. Somebody will say: "I wonder why I am so angry at him?! That was silly..." but go right on saying: "yap, yap, yap!" and so on.

And person A all of a sudden says: "Hmmmm, somebody is angry at me. Why are they angry at me?" And gets good and mad, and so you get a fight started. Because theta bodies are just people and they will start fights and they will argue, but sometimes they go about circuitously. You find a mention of this in the first book, by the way.

A person can lose his theta lines. The only one that seems to have any constancy at all is a very old stable line, which is the center line. And that's quite stable, and when de-aberrated that line is very active -- original line.

Back in the bad old days of sorcery, somebody wanted to get rid of somebody else - you see, you're not supposed to do that anymore, either. That got awfully hard to track down by law and so forth. Here's a fellow 3000 miles away from another fellow and the other fellow dies. And so all of a sudden we found that we didn't believe in ghosts anymore. A lot of things happened in this society to prevent this.

But it's very possible to take, say, a child here and take one of the theta lines of the child, hypnotize the line and send it someplace else and invest somebody else and have that child be that person. It's against the law that has been imposed on the aberration track, because it was found out that all of these lines had to be kept in one place in space or time before you could punish anybody. And it was necessary to punish people so you could nail them down. People knew that you could take these lines and do things to them and they did. [see Joan Grant's "Winged Pharaoh"]

They did it with a fullness and abandon which is very wonderful to behold. They would transfer theta lines and they would influence lives and they would cross things up in a most wonderful and remarkable fashion. Now, how did they do this? How could you possibly catch a theta body? It's air, sort of; it's worse than air, it's just nothing. How do you lay hold of it? Well, you can attract it by its feelings of ethics, you can attract it by its curiosity, or any other way you can influence a human being into doing something that you know very well is very bad for him.

And some genius - remember: in those days theta bodies were not invisible any more than they're invisible now - somewhere along the line picked up a wave very close to the wave length of 1/∞ , and it's so close to theta, that it'll affect Theta; it's the same wavelength as emotion.

p. 338
Emotion is one of these very, very short wavelengths. It'll affect a facsimile or a theta body or the MEST Universe, so it makes a crossroads. In other words, there's a part of a band, such as emotion - there's an electronic approximate of it possible - by which a theta body could be trapped. You would shove it at a theta body and you would get some sort of result resembling unconsciousness. This is initially how it began.

p. 341
And if you were very good at electronics, just a hair better than we are now, you could do this. You actively could accomplish this by shifting theta bodies around with astral projection.
So, no wonder LRH was still dealing with those at his life's end... preferential target for synthetic telepathy, secret societies sorcerers for spilling the beans on how they operate... never mind his own missed withheld-overts, outruds, out lists and plain frustrations at "zombies."

... and I wondered why this forum and the world at large is such a cacophonic concert of "orchestrated mindlessness (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71935-Well-I-Too-Am-Tired-Of-This-F-cking-Sh-t-)"... duh!

Anyway, in the above excerpts from 1952, one can find a summary of Franz Erdl, Steve Richards, "Patrick," Gurdgieff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurdgieff), shamans, sorcerers, MKultra, Robert Duncan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan), "kundalini" awakening, "heart" awakening, etc....

Any wonder, either, why one's/a nation's/a whole planet's or a whole galaxy's quest for "sovereignty" is being "dramatized" all over the place? (e.g. 7 billion Homo sapiens having each at least 6 composite beings ready for a take over and start a riot against the "legitimate" owner they feel they are "slaves" to... or the reverse: get those 6 composite beings off of one's back to regain some control over one's own life... that is, in a final analysis, the divide between the "controllers," the "awakened" ones and the zombies/sheeples... dramatized on the world's stage!)

So, let me define what I mean by "dramatized" as being the result of the action named:

DRAMATIZATION: A mechanism whereby a “victim” turns into a “perpetrator” as in a Stockholm syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) or an individual, abused in its early life, relegates that abuse at unconscious/subconscious levels and becomes an abuser later on in that life cycle. That is, the traumatic event and its content suffered by a victim, locked at unconscious levels, is later on being enacted out and turns the former “victim” into a “perpetrator” perpetuating an abused/abuser cycle along generations (described as the being taking on and displaying the attributes and behaviour of the perpetrator/abuser, AKA "winning valence" in Scientologese).

However, a “dramatization” of someone’s unconscious content can also occur without prior “victimization” as in the following example:
The only other time I have personally witnessed what I saw in my son was a time years ago when a friend of mine was hypnotized by her brother in front of me and her boyfriend. Her brother asked me what I would like him to have her do after he woke her up. I wanted to see if she would repeat something that she would considered silly under normal circumstances. I said, have her get up and flush the toilet every time you tug at your collar.

So he gave her the command, then woke her up. He tugged his collar, she got up, went into the bathroom and flushed the toilet, came back and sat down. He tugged his collar again, and she did it again. And again. After three or four times, I finally asked her why she kept getting up to flush the toilet.

First, she just said it needed flushing. She did it again. And again, I asked her why she kept flushing the toilet. Each time I asked her, she would make up some lame reason as to why she had to flush the toilet.

[B]She got more and more annoyed at me for asking, but she did it again and again upon command and could never see that there was anything strange about it.

Her brother hypnotized her once more to release her of the command, but what an amazing thing to have witnessed.
In this case, the “dramatization” of flushing the toilet has been implanted in that subject’s unconscious as a post-hypnotic compulsive behaviour. It’s as mechanical as clockwork:



tugged collar --> à toilet needs flushing.





That’s the “mission”!


Replace the collar tugging by any of your favorite symbo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=839731&viewfull=1#post839731)l like a pentagram, a cross, a checkered floor, etc. being flashed on a TV/computer screen or prominently displayed in churches or buildings dedicated to worship of one kind or another and one may get the idea… or see it in others before being able to catch it with oneself.

At least this forum has quite a number of proponents of the "look within" for the solutions to the happenings in the "without."

May their socks and moccasins be blessed!

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for the information in the above post, Amzer. You might want to explain the scientologese words that you used (in layman's terms to keep is simple) so that everyone can get your meaning.

I have found that most, if not all, Hubbardspeak terminology can be expressed in common English.

[kirolak]

Yes, I for one have seen "The Master" & found it very moving, well done with good dialogue & excellent acting

[TrumanCash]

Actually, I think if they had not fictionalized the story--that is, if they would have told the real story and just changed the names to avoid massive cult of $cientology lawsuits--it would have made a better movie. The real story is much more shocking and disgusting. Here is an audio interview with Bill Franks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2r2Nd6OJT4) that I just ran across that really sums things up well. Bill Franks held a number of high-level position in the cult and verified Hubbard's criminal activities including murder. Of all the audio/video testimonies I have heard/seen about Hubbard, this one is one of the most shocking.

In this interview Bill Franks also explains a couple of scientologese words used in post #211 above.


Yes, I for one have seen "The Master" & found it very moving, well done with good dialogue & excellent acting

[Hervé]

[...]

.... Here is an audio interview with Bill Franks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2r2Nd6OJT4) [...] Of all the audio/video testimonies I have heard/seen about Hubbard, this one is one of the most shocking.

[...]

Most shocking, indeed!

How to make someone wrong refined to a most Machiavellic deviousness!

[Hervé]

Under the chapter of "Dramatization," widespread implanted programmings and "controllers":

DRAMATIZATION: A mechanism whereby a “victim” turns into a “perpetrator” as in a Stockholm syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome) or an individual, abused in its early life, relegates that abuse at unconscious/subconscious levels and becomes an abuser later on in that life cycle. That is, the traumatic event and its content suffered by a victim, locked at unconscious levels, is later on being enacted out and turns the former “victim” into a “perpetrator” perpetuating an abused/abuser cycle along generations (described as the being taking on and displaying the attributes and behaviour of the perpetrator/abuser, AKA "winning valence" in Scientologese).

However, a “dramatization” of someone’s unconscious content can also occur without prior “victimization” as in the following example:
The only other time I have personally witnessed what I saw in my son was a time years ago when a friend of mine was hypnotized by her brother in front of me and her boyfriend. Her brother asked me what I would like him to have her do after he woke her up. I wanted to see if she would repeat something that she would considered silly under normal circumstances. I said, have her get up and flush the toilet every time you tug at your collar.

So he gave her the command, then woke her up. He tugged his collar, she got up, went into the bathroom and flushed the toilet, came back and sat down. He tugged his collar again, and she did it again. And again. After three or four times, I finally asked her why she kept getting up to flush the toilet.

First, she just said it needed flushing. She did it again. And again, I asked her why she kept flushing the toilet. Each time I asked her, she would make up some lame reason as to why she had to flush the toilet.

She got more and more annoyed at me for asking, but she did it again and again upon command and could never see that there was anything strange about it.

Her brother hypnotized her once more to release her of the command, but what an amazing thing to have witnessed.
In this case, the “dramatization” of flushing the toilet has been implanted in that subject’s unconscious as a post-hypnotic compulsive behaviour. It’s as mechanical as clockwork:



tugged collar --> à toilet needs flushing.





That’s the “mission”!


Replace the collar tugging by any of your favorite symbo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=839731&viewfull=1#post839731)l like a pentagram, a cross, a checkered floor, etc. being flashed on a TV/computer screen or prominently displayed in churches or buildings dedicated to worship of one kind or another and one may get the idea…

From there, what's being "dramatized" all around Earth these days and during older ones?

Well, if one looks at threads like "Horus-Ra (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit)," "How Jimmy Saville (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----)...," "Damage Control (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67941-Damage-Control)," etc... one may consider that a widespread implant such as this piece of "R6 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=529642&viewfull=1#post529642)" may be at play here:



The entirety of Roman Catholicism, the devil and all of these sorts of things, that is all part of R6. Practically anything you can think of...
[...]
What this is really designed to do is to make the individual cease and desist from creation and to knock off over-population. This is one of the big ideas they had that if they just did all this then they’ll get rid of all the overpopulation. [...]. For instance, you find people who are totally obsessed with sex with children, well, that is taught in R6. Nice guys.

[...]

The whole population of the planet responds like a clock to R6 symbols: they respond to nothing else. They do not respond to reason, they only respond to R6 symbols.

[...]

The Catholic church, somewhere along the line, through watching the dramatizations of people, picked up some little fragments of R6 and they make it look like it’s continued forward into present time.

[...]

Somebody, somewhere on this planet -- back about 600 BC, found some pieces of R6. I don’t know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time, they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity.... and we get this:


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13 July 2014 Last updated at 14:52

Pope Francis: 'About 2%' of Catholic clergy paedophiles

Pope Francis Earlier this month the Pope begged forgiveness from victims of child abusers within the Church

Pope Francis has been quoted as saying that reliable data indicates that "about 2%" of clergy in the Catholic Church are paedophiles.

... or this:


Listen to this sinister little interview and it explains everything we say about corrupt elite attitudes towards power. Then think Masons , other societies and this is how the world is run here and world wide......

paraphrasing.....

"Anyone with any sense that would get in trouble would come to the whips, It might be debt it might be a 'SCANDEL INVOLVOLVING SMALL BOYS' !!..

Whatever it was we would help and basically 'blackmail ' them for life !! "

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Abuse claims: Senior whip 'would help colleagues'

8 July 2014 Last updated at 08:11 BST


ll1eyFGMHMU

Footage has emerged of a former Conservative MP suggesting to the BBC in 1995 that party whips might not disclose certain behaviour of colleagues including that "involving small boys."

Now, stepping into "controllers' shoes," since governments are designed to have "control" over nations... "controllers" wouldn't want anyone they cannot control at the helm of any nations' government, would they?

Accordingly, only "controllable" assets would be allowed up the stairs of governing bodies... or to join the "club."

That requires "intelligence"... and what better gathering of such than via church "confessions"?

See? Because, then, the ones in deep "spiritual" turmoils between church and human values and obsessive, compulsive behaviours can be put pressure on and controllable enough to be recruited for "high office."

A few millennia or centuries of this and anyone in office have dark, secret reins to steer them in the direction decided by the "controllers"...

In turn, this indicates that about anyone in "high office" or power position is under the spell of the R6 -- or equivalent -- hypnotic trance... psychos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44915-Russian-Troops-to-Target-Americans&p=489950&viewfull=1#post489950) in other words!

[TrumanCash]

Here is a recent interview with Peter Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb9MjKg1seM) that covers several subjects including L. Ron Hubbard, the occult, Aleister Crowley, Montauk, Al Bielek, ETs, time travel, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb9MjKg1seM

[Omni]

Here is a recent interview with Peter Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb9MjKg1seM) that covers several subjects including L. Ron Hubbard, the occult, Aleister Crowley, Montauk, Al Bielek, ETs, time travel, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb9MjKg1seM

Here is a video I made about the occult and mind control you might be interested in Truman.
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[TrumanCash]

Thanks for the video, Omniverse. My experience and research validates this information.

I would add that besides reptilians, there is/was a time traveling ET group that was human-looking in appearance which I refer to as "serpent/staff Pleiadians". I use that identification because it is the symbols that they use. These may be the same ETs that Billy Meier referred to as the "Giza Intelligence". These were the so-called "gods" in "mythology" (e.g., Ra, Ptah, Isis, Huiztlilopochtli, Queztalcoatl, Hermes, Thoth, Lucifer, et al) that created Earth's "God" worship religions as well as secret societies that engage in satanic, human sacrifice rituals, i.e., the occult.

It is interesting that they use various serpent symbols including the winged serpent or flying serpent which is visually represented by a poisonous cobra (Egypt) or rattlesnake (Americas) with wings or a winged dragon (Asia and City of London). I sometimes wonder whether this human-looking ET group is somehow under the direction of reptilians due to the symbolism they use. Or perhaps the human-looking form is only a hologram and they are actually reptilian.

The other thing that I know from my own experience is that they work in concert with the Mantids in religious programming, creating wars, occult rituals, etc. The Mantids are perhaps the masterminds of all this mind control because they are the ones that operate the high-tech, in-between lives implanting motherships that create and enforce the reincarnation prison system and provide religious manipulation with near death experiences using their incredibly advanced light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel technology to capture and transfer spiritual beings out of and into bodies.

TLC

[Hughe]

My personal take is that the level of manipulation against individual and collective consciousness of mankind is so big, have many layers.

Excerpt from Simon's interview

SP: I’m not saying it’s the case with all near death experiences. But if I want to keep a lie alive, then I have to have people near death, bring them back to life, and then they preach about the white light. And they genuinely and honestly are telling you that they nearly died and they saw heaven or they saw angels and they saw the bright light and they came back.

And that is the way that the lie is perpetuated because that appears to be genuine because it’s an individual who nearly died, or a doctor said, ‘Well, you know, you were dead for two minutes,’ or what have you. And I’m afraid that the experience they are getting is a fabricated experience …


People can see the white light at trance or meditative state by will. I used to experience it many times during mediation.
The interesting part of such experience is that it comes with esoteric sensation that is hard to comprehend, i.e. 'Feel so good.'
It's close to the OBE. Most meditation practitioners being stuck at this stage unfortunately.
Once the person gets over, get used to the white light, then new reality comes in various forms: visions, images, voices and sounds,
physical sensations, seduction of non-human entities. Alas.
In addition humans exploited the synthetic technology over decades to mind control targeted individuals and general public.
Considering the fact advanced species which figured out how soul business works already through technology in the past,
what kind of tricks they have done to us for advancing their self-centered agenda?

Furthermore, there is cultural manipulation per different race, better word is tradition that passes down hundreds generations.
For example Asians who live in Northern Eastern region - Japan, China, Korea, some other countries - perform rituals like religious ceremony
to simply worship ghosts of ancestors.

And there is education which is another form of mind control, socialization process as accepted, expected member of the society.
How about new dark religion in the name of modern science?

[TrumanCash]

Excerpt from Simon's interview
Quote SP: "I’m not saying it’s the case with all near death experiences. But if I want to keep a lie alive, then I have to have people near death, bring them back to life, and then they preach about the white light. And they genuinely and honestly are telling you that they nearly died and they saw heaven or they saw angels and they saw the bright light and they came back.

And that is the way that the lie is perpetuated because that appears to be genuine because it’s an individual who nearly died, or a doctor said, ‘Well, you know, you were dead for two minutes,’ or what have you. And I’m afraid that the experience they are getting is a fabricated experience …"

Thanks for the quote, Hughe. Which interview was that taken from?

It is interesting that Simon Parkes confirmed the existence of these in-between lives mind control facilities years after I published my research and personal experiences in the mid-90s. I documented them in THE EYE OF RA in the chapter "In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" (page 98 of the PDF, link below). Simon has referred to these high-tech implanting facilities as "processing" centers.

I am therefore very thankful that Simon has validated my in-between lives experiences. However, it appears that Simon's mantid handlers have not told him about the Mantid involvement in running this enforced reincarnation system that inculcates people with false religious programming, seeing dead relatives, etc. The glowing beings that many people report seeing are actually Mantids who disguise themselves with a glow that effectively masks their identity.

TLC

[Hughe]

@TrumanCash

I had kept the transcript file of the interview for subtitle work.
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[Shadowself]

Truman Cash,

As a brand new member here and this being my first post let me say I now know why I was drawn here. I spent the last few days overwhelmed by thread after thread and then somehow ran into your thread and more importantly your pdf's of two books.

Thus let it be said that the objectivity, clarity and moral independence with which you've written this over steps any boundry of ET intervention hence.
or as Shaksphere said it in a play " The will of man is by his reason swayed, and reason says you are the worthier..."

[TrumanCash]

Christine and Karelia recently interviewed me for the Avalon forum which should appear on the "Faces of Avalon" YouTube channel in the near future.

In the interview I talked about the technology and the agenda of the Mantids and related subjects.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Imagine it!--No more taxes! Since this thread is also about solutions, I have posted information about the elimination of taxation here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77383-Nationalize-the-federal-reserve&p=905530&viewfull=1#post905530).

Taxation is entirely unnecessary. Taxation is not about money because governments can create money out of thin air without any input from "the people". Taxation is all about the control and enslavement mankind.

We do not have to consent to the lower level of the matrix which most people have to contend with in the matter of money (or rather the fraudulent substitute for money). As we are continuously pushed toward a Big Brother controlled, cashless world system, we should not think of ourselves as victims of this system, but rather we should recognize that we can create a better one.

The "Nationalize the Federal Reserve (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77383-Nationalize-the-federal-reserve&p=905530&viewfull=1#post905530)" post contains a very important solution by a man who goes by the name Eric "WhoRU?" Williams. He has figured out a workable solution to free us from the debt slave system. I cannot stress enough the importance of understanding the problem, the solution and spreading the word with the YouTube link to Eric's information.

We do not have to continue to be a "human resource". Like the star of the "The Truman Show" we can step outside the bubble. (BTW, have you noticed the repetitive "Rising Sun" symbolism in "The Truman Show"?) And one more thing--please don't stop using CASH.

And in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!

Truman Cash

[TrumanCash]

For those who haven't noticed it, I just posted "The Origin of Christmas" on the forum here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78270-The-Origin-of-Christmas&p=915261&viewfull=1#post915261). This article exposes the ET involvement in religious manipulation based upon the position of the sun in the sky (solstices and equinoxes).

On another note I have been asked about when my Avalon forum interview will be available, but I have not yet received any word on that.

Peace,
Truman L. Cash

[TrumanCash]

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[BF88]

Excerpt from Simon's interview
Quote SP: "I’m not saying it’s the case with all near death experiences. But if I want to keep a lie alive, then I have to have people near death, bring them back to life, and then they preach about the white light. And they genuinely and honestly are telling you that they nearly died and they saw heaven or they saw angels and they saw the bright light and they came back.

And that is the way that the lie is perpetuated because that appears to be genuine because it’s an individual who nearly died, or a doctor said, ‘Well, you know, you were dead for two minutes,’ or what have you. And I’m afraid that the experience they are getting is a fabricated experience …"

Thanks for the quote, Hughe. Which interview was that taken from?

It is interesting that Simon Parkes confirmed the existence of these in-between lives mind control facilities years after I published my research and personal experiences in the mid-90s. I documented them in THE EYE OF RA in the chapter "In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" (page 98 of the PDF, link below). Simon has referred to these high-tech implanting facilities as "processing" centers.

I am therefore very thankful that Simon has validated my in-between lives experiences. However, it appears that Simon's mantid handlers have not told him about the Mantid involvement in running this enforced reincarnation system that inculcates people with false religious programming, seeing dead relatives, etc. The glowing beings that many people report seeing are actually Mantids who disguise themselves with a glow that effectively masks their identity.

TLC

Hi, can you elaborate on these implanting facilities and glowing beings please? I remember being at one of these places (pre birth) and having a procedure done that kind of felt like an electric shock inside my head. The procedure was performed by a small being that i called 'crocodile man' because of his crocodile appearance (had a very familiar feeling to him) during which a being told me to concentrate on the feeling of the electric shock and not to shut it out then appeared visibly after it stopped as a bright glowing being that seemed to emanate from one point but was a whole being (bad description i know!). This glowing being had a motherly feel to it. Soon after this inside the implanting facility a few (2 or 3) what I now would call reptillians appeared seemingly angry about me being there (although in some way consenting) but I could have gotten the feeling of their anger confused as they somehow seemed to radiate authority/power which was very scary for me. The glowing being and reptillians communicated in a way that lead me to believe they knew each other or had dealings in the past etc

Regarding the forced reincarnation I do remember the 'come to the light' situation (when though is a mystery to me) and what I got from it was if you do go to the light you can 'build on what you have achieved' rather than starting from the beginning again. It seemed at this point that I had a choice as to whether I incarnated again physically or somewhere else.

I have written this I will have a read through your PDF but can you please shed some light on this for me? Do you think it is a manufactured experience of some kind? It doesn't seem like it is manufactured but the process is probably intended to throw you off somehow yet I still remember being before the whole thing happened

[BF88]

So... I am reading the eye of ra pdf and the electric shock in the head to trap a soul into a body technique pops up and my jaw drops. Not sure if I want to continue reading to be honest. I was told this procedure was to keep you in the body as I was having trouble staying 'together'. The best way I can describe it is imagine going out of your current physical body, then out again like out of your non physical body... If that makes any sense. This electro shock thing was to keep the 'bodies' together.

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by BF88: " The procedure was performed by a small being that i called 'crocodile man' because of his crocodile appearance "

Hi BF88, Thank you so much for sharing, I find it interesting, I can verify a crocodile being doing the implanting. Also, looking forward to read Truman's recommendation of the SRT. Limor

[TrumanCash]

Excerpt from Simon's interview
Quote SP: "I’m not saying it’s the case with all near death experiences. But if I want to keep a lie alive, then I have to have people near death, bring them back to life, and then they preach about the white light. And they genuinely and honestly are telling you that they nearly died and they saw heaven or they saw angels and they saw the bright light and they came back.

And that is the way that the lie is perpetuated because that appears to be genuine because it’s an individual who nearly died, or a doctor said, ‘Well, you know, you were dead for two minutes,’ or what have you. And I’m afraid that the experience they are getting is a fabricated experience …"

Thanks for the quote, Hughe. Which interview was that taken from?

It is interesting that Simon Parkes confirmed the existence of these in-between lives mind control facilities years after I published my research and personal experiences in the mid-90s. I documented them in THE EYE OF RA in the chapter "In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" (page 98 of the PDF, link below). Simon has referred to these high-tech implanting facilities as "processing" centers.

I am therefore very thankful that Simon has validated my in-between lives experiences. However, it appears that Simon's mantid handlers have not told him about the Mantid involvement in running this enforced reincarnation system that inculcates people with false religious programming, seeing dead relatives, etc. The glowing beings that many people report seeing are actually Mantids who disguise themselves with a glow that effectively masks their identity.

TLC

Hi, can you elaborate on these implanting facilities and glowing beings please? I remember being at one of these places (pre birth) and having a procedure done that kind of felt like an electric shock inside my head. The procedure was performed by a small being that i called 'crocodile man' because of his crocodile appearance (had a very familiar feeling to him) during which a being told me to concentrate on the feeling of the electric shock and not to shut it out then appeared visibly after it stopped as a bright glowing being that seemed to emanate from one point but was a whole being (bad description i know!). This glowing being had a motherly feel to it. Soon after this inside the implanting facility a few (2 or 3) what I now would call reptillians appeared seemingly angry about me being there (although in some way consenting) but I could have gotten the feeling of their anger confused as they somehow seemed to radiate authority/power which was very scary for me. The glowing being and reptillians communicated in a way that lead me to believe they knew each other or had dealings in the past etc

Regarding the forced reincarnation I do remember the 'come to the light' situation (when though is a mystery to me) and what I got from it was if you do go to the light you can 'build on what you have achieved' rather than starting from the beginning again. It seemed at this point that I had a choice as to whether I incarnated again physically or somewhere else.

I have written this I will have a read through your PDF but can you please shed some light on this for me? Do you think it is a manufactured experience of some kind? It doesn't seem like it is manufactured but the process is probably intended to throw you off somehow yet I still remember being before the whole thing happened

Yes, the chapter in THE EYE OF RA entitled "In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" covers most of what I have experienced on the subject.

However, I should note that not everybody goes to such a place in an NDE. I think some of these facilities are automated; it appears that the "processing" facilities that Simon Parkes mentioned are automated. Although, if memory serves, he did say that sometimes Grays are there.

The implanting/"processing" ship that I have routinely been pulled into upon death for the past twelve millennia is manned by Mantids who use what I call "telepathic hypnosis" to create a false image of glowing beings in one's mind.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Since we're on the subject of implanting stations/ships, I recently discovered more about the incident that I described in THE EYE OF RA (page 98, 99 of the PDF):

"In fact, we all have experienced both sides of the equation. That is, we have all been victims of these implanting techniques, and we have also been the victimizers. In spite of some people's "holier than thou" attitude, we have all had a checkered past.

"For example, on December 3, 1995 I uncovered an incident that started out with me as a free being in space. I became interested in a very large, disk-shaped craft, so I entered it. I was then pushed by an electronic force field into a small confinement area near the edge of the inside of the craft. I was then "sucked" into a body via some type of electronic tractor beam. Then I was anchored in the body through a series of electronic wave pulses that felt like very intense electric shocks. It overwhelmed me and then just beat me into the head of this body.

"Two tall beings with skinny arms, legs, and necks and enlarged craniums approached the implanting device. One of the beings said (telepathically): "You're one of us now." These two beings then escorted me and my new body to a control tower in the center of this craft. The craft was open on the inside with no dividing walls and was the size of a football stadium (except that it was circular). The two beings then instructed me how to operate the instruments in the control room to entrap other beings into bodies. I then became an implanter right after having become an implantee."

At the time that I recovered that memory I did not know what a "Mantid" or "Mantis being" was, but that essentially is what the body type was in that incident. Now here's the kicker to that "lifetime" as a "Mantid":

I recently discovered in a memory retrieval session that some of the beings that I trapped/implanted in that implant station when I was a Mantid were still stuck to me in my abdomen. As wild as that might sound I was carrying them around with me for many lifetimes. (This is a very common phenomenon with entities/beings. Sometimes entities in our bodies or in the space around our bodies have been with us for millions of years.) In the SRT session I questioned them about the incident that caused them to be in my body and these beings realized what had happened and were then released from the trauma of that incident. I explained to them the circumstances of my being pulled into that implant station, too, so they would know that it was not entirely intentional and that I was acting out an implanted behavior. They then were free to leave my body (which they did)! :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3: :dance3:

The great part about waking beings up, helping them to realize how they got there, and setting them free is that it is a win-win scenario. They are finally free to be and choose their own path and the person doing SRT is benefited by it as well. It is a very uplifting experience and can result in relieving one's own mental, spiritual or physical difficulties. :bounce:

TLC

[BF88]

Originally posted by BF88: " The procedure was performed by a small being that i called 'crocodile man' because of his crocodile appearance "

Hi BF88, Thank you so much for sharing, I find it interesting, I can verify a crocodile being doing the implanting. Also, looking forward to read Truman's recommendation of the SRT. Limor

The one I remember was fairly short whilst seemed to be stood up right and was quite pleasant until the procedure happened. They wanted me to concentrate on a single point somewhere and as I did i felt myself 'fading out' somewhat and that is when the voice came instructing me not to do that and to concentrate on the feeling of the shock which could have lasted a minute or so but it is hard to say exactly. Does this sound familiar to you?

The glowing beings could refer to a number of beings I encountered before this procedure, as well as the one after, there is a glow that seems to emanate from one point that is very bright with no visibly defined body (the motherly feeling one in the place where the procedure happened) and can appear in different form or make it seem like that it is doing so which ever it is I have no idea, the purpose of which is not to alarm anyone or so they said. There is also the ones that I encountered before this whole shock treatment business and are kind of like glowing outlines or 'organised light' that do resemble a body just with less detail.

[Jovian]

This thread is circling in my own current level of focus, including feeling drawn in by the earlier responses here involving Herve and Just One.. I hope it is alright if I harken back to the issues that I saw reflected in those earlier pages.

There is much I’ve jotted down to consider, and hopefully discuss here later, including my current interest in Steve Richards' work; but for now I at least want to thank Chester and Amzer Zo, and Truman. Just tonight, reading these exchanges here has got me considering my thinking, forcing me to consider my un-analyzed assumptions and perspectives, in a way I haven’t lately, perhaps. I very much appreciate Chester’s insistence on analyzing the lenses through which we are each viewing reality at any moment. Isn’t that exactly what is going to help us be free? I have to say that I am feeling quite a sympathy with Chester’s perspective on other levels as well, as expressed in this thread

Personally, I would consider it the utmost aide to me, to have someone constructively challenge me to keep unpeeling the layers of scales from my eyes. I find tentative satisfaction in sensing that my self-work seems to be indicating lately how much my “ego” identification with various self constructs *seems* to be dropping off, such that I am able to make such a claim—that there is such value to be found in being open to the input of other souls. For those of us who perhaps like me sense “past” lifetimes of being “leaders” or “chosen” or otherwise “special,” who come into this life feeling that they are supposed to “know everything already,” that is saying something.

I read Truman’s books a few months ago. My sense of my journey includes a perception that I’ve been in positions of leadership in this time/space dimensional experience, across several lifetimes. These lifetimes involved experiencing communication from “god” in the context of what has come to be deemed the Judeo/Christian story.

In relation to Truman’s concept of Mantids being behind the experience of “chosen ones,” I will say that it was Simon’s video, which I saw linked from an outside forum, that initially drew me to PA. I felt some kind of sympathy with his self-expression, though I’m currently not conscious of any personal experience with Mantids, or other beings, and have no *conscious* recollection of abduction in this lifetime or others.

(Interestingly, though, one of my favorite books as a child was Roald Dahl’s James and the Giant Peach,.…A lonely boy is given magical beans that grow into a giant peach—as big as a house. James then climbs into the pit of this peach to find a motley crew of man-sized insects. James is just the one they’ve been waiting for, to help captain their venture. They then go on to fly around the earth, tethered to seagulls who carry them aloft…. Hmmm. You wonder indeed what Dahl was tapping into.)

My journey to the truth has led me to acceptance of the concept currently of there being a variety of alien races being contracted as manipulating minions of the dark mind. I’ve played a part in mistaking some deceptive expression of this dark mind for a truer expression of “god” energy in at least one of those aforementioned lifetimes. This statement suggests my current belief that there is indeed some kind of “good” energy outside of this matrix that has sought to reach our awareness.

The question of just what we are accessing when we perceive “past lives” is of course a potentially layered inquiry, such as has been brought up by Herve in this thread (possible spirit, “soul” and body level memories, etc.), and with added considerations for historical lifetimes. The basis for my trust in the value and validity of my journey, though, across many years of processing this, mainly lies in my sense of clarity and deep healing and integration that have resulted from processing these apparent lifetimes, and in the knowing--or perhaps as Chester says, faith-- that my motivation has been from a good and “high” place.

I *think* I’m near the point of being willing to achieve “soul sovereignty,” such as we can define it as being free of one’s unconscious participation in this time/space dimension. If I claim that, then I am including the willingness to know the truth about any “past life” recollections, including if they are part of an elaborate personal or collective “implant,” some fantastic self-delusion, some sort of shared "soul group" experience, or whatever else…holograms within holograms. …Whatever this “reality” is, it’s been an incredible journey so far.


…I’ll end by again thanking the participants here, for providing a space for such inquiry.

[BF88]

My journey to the truth has led me to acceptance of the concept currently of there being a variety of alien races being contracted as manipulating minions of the dark mind. I’ve played a part in mistaking some deceptive expression of this dark mind for a truer expression of “god” energy in at least one of those aforementioned lifetimes. This statement suggests my current belief that there is indeed some kind of “good” energy outside of this matrix that has sought to reach our awareness.

Your right about the 'good' energy outside of the matrix although I wouldn't think of it in terms of good and evil. Think of it like this, human beings keep cattle fenced in keep them happy and fed yet still slaughter and eat them. If an alien race kept us locked in to a matrix (the farm) for whatever purposes they have, what is the difference in intention or mentality between the two? Human beings take animals out of their environments (or farm them) for experimentation to find 'cures' to diseases and that kind of excuse, what then would the difference be if an alien species were to do that to human beings? From the perspective of beings locking us in to this reality are they thinking or behaving differently to how some of the human species behaves towards the other creatures?

That was generally how a conversation went that I had with a being from outside the matrix before I came into it to be born as a human. Why the 'good' beings from outside do not interfere is there isn't really much difference in what is going on on that level coupled with the difficulties in staying here for too long. From reading this thread though, it could have been one of these synthetic, holographic experiences but it felt different in a way I couldn't possibly describe. There was probably more to it than that as well but I can say with a good deal of certainty that they are there and are watching this place. Try to imagine the potential of these higher beings they see (from my experience) those who are doing the 'locking in' as having 'the same rights' as you and me, to put it in human terms.

Remember, with these synthetic holographic experiences happening you can never really know for sure what is going on. Try to enjoy the ride whilst it is happening and just be kind to one another.

[Jovian]

Hi BF88. Yes, I do agree with the concepts you mention that your apparent other-worldly associate shared with you.

I guess my use of the word "good" in quotes like that is because, as you say, I am unsure and am acknowledging the unknown of it, acknowledging my currently limited view, which I'd think any seasoned seeker is responsible for admitting. We are each contributing our view from one part of the proverbial elephant.

From my current level of having peeled onion layers off of my own "apparent" journey, my belief that some outside forces have tried to interject here is in regard to my perceived participation in the Judeo-Christian story as I said, and having a sense of encountering "good" in the "Jesus Christ" energy during the time of his incarnation. From my personal sense, this was an entity/energy that completely bowled me over in the sense of being an entity of immense power, yet he was coming from a place of respecting and honoring others and wanting people to know--or remember--their own power. From my perspective at the time, this was a true paradigm shift from the standards of the day, of what constituted 'power.' This experience was so powerful and affecting that my spirit has remembered it across time, and honestly I feel grateful for the sense of peace I have, about the true power of our spirits.

I agree with your view that it must be daunting for beings at ‘higher’ levels to come down into this vibration for any length of time.

Perhaps the whole Biblical story (including a 'fall' and angels and Adam and Eve and "chosen people," etc.) was articulating the story (co-created hologram) of a sub-set of beings, and it is for this reason that it seems absurd and of little import to others of us who have been part of learning and experiencing via other created realities.

I can’t assert the story is true, but my sense of its “general” veracity is in my own past-life recollections which include playing other parts in that story. I even seem to have recollections of being an ‘angel,” ministering to humans; as well as another role in the Jewish history.


I've been reading what Herve has shared here, as well as in another thread, regarding L. Ron's (“Elron”) story of what supposedly happened 75 million years ago, due to actions by evil "Xenu." I feel absolutely no resonance with the story. Some part of me could laugh at the concept, and make up a cartoonish idea of this "Evil Xenu" in my mind; just as others find the entire Judeo-Christian story to be a naïve, absurd fabrication, simply one more "messiah" story, like the many "pagan" versions.

The summary of the ancient actions of Xenu that supposedly set up the current state of entrapment and repeating of that holographic reality is summarized in Herve’s post here in a thread about Steve Richards' Holographic Kinetics work:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics&p=516479&viewfull=1#post516479


But how can I dismiss the possibility of the Xenu story, if I claim that my own seemingly fantastical story is true? Is my own account simply part of the “R6 mind implant?” Was the Judeo-Christian story a holographic shadow of the original machinations of evil Xenu?

Herve is clearly very keen on the “reality” of this story, as I am about mine. I’m certainly not discounting it. The Judeo-Christian sub-drama, as well as others of course, could very well be playing out within this larger drama in “Sector 9." Holograms within holograms. It is a sticky mess, at this point.


As BF88 said:

"Remember, with these synthetic holographic experiences happening you can never really know for sure what is going on. Try to enjoy the ride whilst it is happening and just be kind to one another."

All we can do is try to account for the holograms we've participated in. As they say, you have to know where you've been, to know where you're going. Let's at least take responsibility for clearing our sh*t and not repeating the undesirable outcomes of history.

I look forward to uncovering further layers and therefore finding new levels of peace and understanding and self-agency. Early on, I had my mind fairly blown and a near psychotic schism as certain past lifetimes were made apparent to me (via no apparent “guides” or “angels,” just my own apparent intuitive connection to spirit). Thus, my subsequent method of inquiry attempted to avoid knowing “too much, too soon.” Yet, if further inquiry entails that my aforementioned sense of my past lifetimes—and therefore my perception of this “reality”--be blown to smithereens within a whole new vista of truth, so be it.

…I will say that we do seem to be making progress in our climb to the outside of our respective holographic dramas, if we can meet on a board such as this and compare notes.

I had mentioned my interest in Steve Richards’ work. It resonates so much with the methods I’ve intuitively settled into using for clearing myself, these last several years, as well as resonating with my current concepts of “how things are” in this world. Herve is also keen on Steve’s work and mentions how much it jibes with the Scientology clearing techniques. And of course Truman is having great success in his own clearing with "SRT" as he shares here.

To my mind, that seems like progress—that from at least three different apparent background paradigms people are arriving at a common dynamic as we approach the “Zero Point” of total clarity.

As I said in my earlier post, I very much value the sharing of ideas such as in this thread. It can only help me clarify what my own journey has been.

[TrumanCash]

Thank you, Jovian, for your post above. You bring up some very interesting points.

The story of Xenu covered on the "OT III" level after "clearing" does have some truth in it.

However, it has now been revealed that Hubbard was a sociopath and pathological liar. He was also motivated by money and power. Hubbard used the marketing ploy of secrecy regarding "OT III" and he claimed that if one actually knew about this event before they were properly prepared, it would kill them. However, the Xenu story has been widely publicized and even appeared in a South Park cartoon episode. Subsequently, no one has died from hearing this story.

In 1947 Ron Hubbard tried promoting one of his books called "Excalibur" with the same kind of ploy. His publisher reported that Hubbard said anyone who read the manuscript either died or committed suicide. You can hear this claim in this interview with this publisher at about 7:00 minutes into the video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4HI3KYlFag).

This is not to say that that incident never happened. I can confirm that much, if not most, of the story is true, but the part about Xenu I have no knowledge of. The problem is that it is very difficult to discern when Hubbard was lying and when he being honest. It is very much like the boy-who-cried-wolf conundrum.

There is geological evidence that such an event took place around 75 million years ago. For example, the humic shale that is harvested today in Utah and other places evidences such an event. The decaying humus of the forest floor was instantly preserved under a thick layer of volcanic ash. It was never exposed to weather or water so it never petrified or fossilized. It is now widely sold as an organic soil amendment and food supplement. I use it for both purposes.

However, the main focus of this event is the people that were traumatized by it. Thus, we must address the phenomenon of entities (aka, discarnate beings) to understand how we can be affected by them.

We often associate discarnate beings with the Catholic church exorcisms and Hollywood horror movies, which primarily focus on the more negative beings. These kind of incidents are quite rare and nothing really to be very concerned about if you know how to handle the situation.

Have you ever had a thought that you felt did not come from you? It can be somewhat like the old cartoons that depicted an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other. Have you ever felt torn between doing something that you knew would be wrong to do but felt persuaded to do it anyway?

Discarnate beings are usually just beings like you and I who have been heavily traumatized in the past and are still stuck in the incident. They attach themselves to us spiritually both in or around the body. They do not know that they are not us. They identify themselves with us and consequently we sometimes identify ourselves with them. We are essentially merged with them. To unmerge them, so to speak, all we have to do is to get into communication with them and get them to look at the trauma that they are stuck in. This is a simple way to look at and there is certainly more to it than that.

The problem with Hubbard's OT III procedures is that he assumed that all entities had experienced this incident 75 million years ago. So anyone doing this level is going to be forcing some of these entities through an incident that they never experienced. Not a good idea. (It may very well be the reason that so many of Hubbard's followers died of cancer while on the OT levels or afterwards.)

I never "resonated" with this incident because like many other people I was not there when it happened. However, I have experienced some of the memories of the entities who did go through this traumatic incident, so that is why I do not have doubts that it actually occurred. In fact, in one of these memories I discovered that Mantids were involved with perpetrating the incident. This incident has also been independently confirmed by people doing past life work who did not have prior knowledge of this incident.

Now here is another rub--When one conducts past life memory retrieval, one can often run an entity's incident and misidentify it as one's own incident. It is often referred to as "misowning". In some cases, though, the incident could have been shared by both an entity and oneself.

Another misconception promulgated by Hubbard is that one must first spend tens of thousands of dollars to become a "clear" before handling entities (which he called "body thetans", "BTs" or "fleas"). This has been found to be untrue, but that idea sure made Hubbard and the church of Scientology a lot of money. It is my viewpoint that "clear" is not a state of being at all. As long as one can communicate with entities--which is much easier than one can imagine--one can begin to help them and free them. It is a win-win situation for everyone. And one does not need an expensive "E-meter" to do so.

This phenomenon was not discovered by Hubbard. Shaman have been telepathically communicating with discarnate beings since time immemorial. The modern western culture, in large part, considers such things either blasphemous, unscientific or just plum crazy. Oftentimes people who report voices in their heads along with unexplained obsessions or compulsions are prescribed drugs as the solution.

However, now many people in the western culture are awakening to the reality of this phenomenon and experiencing life-changing results. And it is results that matter, whether one believes in discarnate spiritual beings or not.

TLC

[Hervé]

Space Opera... why is Star Trek, still, so successful?

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MessageToEagle.com - Of all science fiction movies and series that have been produced over the years, there is one particular that seems to become more and more popular - Star Trek! To all the millions of Trekkie fans all across the world, Star Trek will always remain unique, truly one of its kind.

What exactly is it that makes Star Trek so special? Maybe the best person to answer the question was Gene Roddenberry.

"I think probably the most often asked question about the show is: Why the Star Trek Phenomenon?

And it could be an important question because you can ask:

How can a simple space opera with blinking lights and zap-guns and a goblin with pointy ears reach out and touch the hearts and minds of literally millions of people and become a cult in some cases?

Obviously, what this means is, that television has incredible power.



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They are saying that if Star Trek can do this, then perhaps another carefully calculated show could move people in other directions as to keep selfish interest to creating other cults for selfish purposes: industrial, cartels, political parties, governments.

Ultimate power in this world, as you know, has always been one simple thing: the control and manipulation of minds.



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Fortunately, in the attempt however to manipulate people through any so called Star Trek Formula , is doomed to failure, and I.ll tell you why in just a moment. First of all, our show did not reach and affect all these people because it was deep and great literature.

Star Trek was not Ibsen or Shakespeare. To get a prime time show - network show - on the air and to keep it there, you must attract and hold a minimum of 18 million people every week.

You have to do that in order to move people away from Gomer Pyle, Bonanza, Beverly Hill Billies and so on. And we tried to do this with entertainment, action, adventure, conflict and so on.

But once we got on the air, and within the limits of those accident ratio limits, we did not accept the myth, that the television audience has an infantile mind. We had an idea, and we had a premise, and we still believe that.


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As a matter of fact we decided to risk the whole show on that premise.

We believed that the often ridiculed mass audience is sick of this world's petty nationalism and all it's old ways and old hatreds, and that people are not only willing but anxious to think beyond most petty beliefs that have for so long kept mankind divided.

So you see that the formula, the magic ingredient that many people keep seeking and many of them keep missing is really not in Star Trek.

It is in the audience. There is an intelligent life form out on the other side of that television too.

The whole show was an attempt to say that humanity will reach maturity and wisdom on the day that it begins not just to tolerate, but to take a special delight in differences in ideas and differences in life forms.

We tried to say that the worst possible thing that can happen to all of us is for the future to somehow press us into a common mould, where we begin to act and talk and look and think alike. If we cannot learn to actually enjoy those small differences, take a positive delight in those small differences between our own kind, here on this planet, then we do not deserve to go out into space and meet the diversity that is almost certainly out there.

And I think that this is what people responded to.

The result of that was that seven years after being dropped by the network of saying those things, there are now more people watching it than ever before.

And if you ascribe those things to any mystic or scriptural brilliance in Star Trek, you miss the entire point.

For Star Trek proofs, as faulty as individual episodes could be, is that the much-maligned common man and common woman has an enormous hunger for brotherhood. They are ready for the 23rd century now, and they are light-years ahead of their petty governments and their visionless leaders," Gene Roddenberry once said, when asked about why Star Trek has become so popular over the years.

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So... Star Trek's success: the result of a planet's whole sale implanting or the triggering of memories of long, long ago in a far, far away space?

Well, here's a witness' testimony:




My late husband worked as an audio person on the Star Trek TV series. He didn't really "know" Gene Roddenberry on a personal level, but as a crew member he often saw Gene on the sets and was privy to a casual work relationship (this was before I was married to him). His perception of Roddenberry was that he was a peculiar guy. Often Roddenberry would come on set and when he saw the scenery or other layout would say: No it wasn't that way - and then he would go on to describe how it was as if he had seen it. Now, was the seeing it just his imagination - or was he shown or taken places?

My personal experience: I was told to write after an OBE (before never wanted or liked to write, but I was an avid reader). When I was told to write novels, I was shocked as I was reading serious non-fiction. I was told that I would reach more people through novels! Often I'm shown the books as movies in my head. Perhaps Roddenberry was having a similar experience. But I do know that fiction can be a great teaching tool.

[TrumanCash]

Christine finished editing the video of my interview so it is now available on YouTube:

"Truman Cash - The Eye of Ra & The Programming of a Planet"

"Recorded on November 20, 2014 this interview with forum member Truman Cash took place while Christine and Karelia were still moderators on the Project Avalon forum. The internet connection was faulty so Truman's voice is crackly but audible... in some way a bit of ambiance as the material covers the Mantid presence on planet Earth.

"Truman has detailed his experiences in two books and on the forum. During many recall sessions he was able to piece together a cohesive picture not only of his abductions but of his past lives, one important one as Ramsses II. This is a fascinating account, and to quote another member:

"Thus let it be said that the objectivity, clarity and moral independence with which you've written this over steps any boundary of ET intervention hence. or as Shakespeare said it in a play " The will of man is by his reason swayed, and reason says you are the worthier..."

"Detailed information and both his books are available on the Project Avalon forum. Truman's respected thread is titled the "MATRIX REVEALED - Analysis & Solutions"

The Programing of a Planet: http://projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash....

The Eye of Ra: http://projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash_...

"The video was going to be uploaded simultaneously on NOT IN OUR NAME as well as The Faces of Avalon, ironically as of today I, Christine, no longer have access to the You Tube channel which I initiated and was custodian of. This decision was made unilaterally and I was not informed of it.

"Original music composition is by Shane viewable here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOZrt..."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp8a-JOi6bs

[TrumanCash]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I don't mean that David is doing any deceiving, though, as I am only referring to the channeling itself. I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)

It is a no-brainer that the Egyptian Ra was not a positive, helpful being. However, I have some additional "inside" information, if you will, regarding exactly who the Egyptian Ra was and what he did. This information has been confirmed by ancient records, government insiders and others that I will cite below.

I knew Ra personally in my past incarnation as an Egyptian pharoah and my name was pronounced Ra-may-sees (not "Ramzees"). Ra was part of a group of apparent ETs who appeared in their flying disk (i.e., space/time ship) to numerous leaders and "prophets" all over the planet. They are the ETs who portrayed themselves as "gods" and who established the major world religions and secret societies in order to keep mankind apart and fighting with each other. I was personally ordered by Ra and Ptah to fight the Hittites. They operated under various names in numerous cultures. They are the hidden cause of war and chaos on this planet (not to mention satanic rituals, etc). Let me also indicate that Ra was also known as "Amen" or "Amen-Ra" amongst many other names. "Amen" was the "god of war" in Egypt. This is recorded history.

After recovering some of my memories in that lifetime with Ra and Ptah, I then discovered that Zecharia Sitchin had translated the Egyptian writings of two of my exeriences/contacts with Ra. They were exactly as I had previously remembered them!

It is true that past life memories can sometimes be verified. That is, before even knowing about Zecharia Sitchin's writings of these two events, I had recovered these two memories (plus others) using two different techniques of memory retrieval conducted by two different people at different times.

I do not expect or want people to believe me just because I say I have these memories. The Egyptians and other civilizations have recorded the heinous mind control activities of this group of ETs. Zecharia Sitchin has translated Egyptian writings as well as writings from other civilizations. He was correct in concluding that the Egyptian "Ra" was also the same ET/"god" as Marduk, etc, in previous times in Babylon/Sumeria.

It is no secret that Ra and his fellow conspirators were not nice guys because it has been widely publicized throughout Earth's history (mistaken as "mythology" in modern times). They operated on fear and demanded blood sacrifices. Nowadays it appears they operate through "channeled" or telepathic messages to deceive and to manipulate minds and beliefs. They do channel some truth in order to get people to buy into the sugar-coated messages and accept a belief system that is not their own. And that is the simplicity of the trap. I have documented this group of ETs in my second book THE EYE OF RA. I have also documented my experiences with channeling, which led me to discover that channeling was being used to program people. I would also recommend THE GODS OF EDEN by William Bramley and THE WARS OF GODS AND MEN by Sitchin.

I first learned about this deception and conspiracy while helping another abductee, "Jack Wylie", recover his current and past lives with ETs. I later discovered my own previous involvement with them in Egypt. They even admitted to him that they were the same previous "gods" of Egypt and in other places and other times. Ra was known as the "sun god" around the planet and in mesoamerica, for example, was called Huitzlilopochtli. This group of ETs set up sun god religions around the planet along with secret societies.

Bill Cooper, for example, reported that he read in above top secret that ETs are the ones who established the religions and secret societies of this planet. Also, Bob Lazar reported reading this in government documents.

The machinations of this ET group can be verified from many angles and sources. It is no longer a secret.

It's all about mind control. Discernment is the watchword. Truth lies within us all if one takes the time and effort to look. It is the deceivers who offer truth on a silver platter for us to accept as a belief system. That is how they established the planet's religions and secret societies.

Real truthseeking takes an extreme amount of time and effort and it is an endless process. It never comes on a silver platter. I have observed that problems develop whenever someone (or society) blindly accepts another being (or beings) as a source for truth.

The more we come to know, the more we realize that there is more to know. As we individually unlock one level of the matrix, we start to see the next level. But no one can do it for us. No channeled information is going to set anyone free from the matrix as it requires active participation of the truth seeker who QUESTIONS AUTHORITY at every step of the way.

And may the truth set us free,
Truman L Cash

[Omni]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception.

Greetings Truman,
Thanks for the informative post. :)

I have a question... Was this Ra individual reptilian? It is my understanding that 'blood sacrifices' originate from reptilians and their cohorts. Just curious your take on that, and if Ra was reptilian.

As for sun religions I tend to think worshiping nature and the sun as something that would come along naturally in an unaltered unmanipulated state of development, even if it was brought by ETs at some point too. I gather that the malicious ETs do not want a nature religion on earth. I see nature based religion as a holistic change from the 'other' religions of the world. So if they did use a sun oriented religion, it would be part of the normal disinfo tactics of using potent truth or potent philosophies mixed with the whole point of the psy op, the lies/distortions/division etc.

Thanks for your work Truman. I know on the Icke forum years back we had some interactions you may not have liked. I hope you can forgive me for noting past life memories are not exactly credible to me. I have had ample past life manipulations myself including memories of being Jesus. Goes without saying(unless I actually was that person..... lol) that it isn't true. Good you have had confirmation of your past life memories.

[BF88]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)


Coming to a definitive conclusion on the nature of Ra (nice guy or not) it would need to be determined first that both you and David Wilcock are actually referring to the same being, and from whose perspective his reference is coming from. What I mean by this is he may have had a positive interaction with this being opposed to yours leading you to have opposing opinions. Perhaps also he is just wrong, do you know if his information first hand as in a personal experience?

In your work about the implant stations, which I remember personally being there probably three times or so (some memories are clearer than others) the pain I was subject to during the electric shock procedure sounds like a negative experience and telling others about it would lead them to believe these beings are to be avoided at all costs. This simply is not the case. I say this because of further interactions later on as they have shown me certain events which were to happen that did actually happen and helped with issues I was having as a young child.

They are very deceptive yes but that is merely our perception, something that has been on my mind recently whilst thinking of it is perhaps we are being treated like children or pets. An very bad example could be that I have to tell me dog he is going for a walk, put his lead on him put my coat and shoes on to trick him into the bath! Obviously this is a very simplified example but try and think why one would need to deceive another from their perspective.

The point I am trying to make here is one being could be nice to some and not so nice to others, leading them to form different opinions. Why though is a mystery to me, perhaps it is the old (or first) divide and conquer trick.

[TrumanCash]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception.

Greetings Truman,
Thanks for the informative post. :)

I have a question... Was this Ra individual reptilian?

No, Ra was not a reptilian. He was very "Caucasian" looking and you would not recognize him as being alien on the street (unless he wanted you to know). I'm not a visual/graphic artist (like you I am a musician) but I did the best I could to draw what he looked like. The picture I drew is in the first chapter of THE EYE OF RA if you want to see it.

It is my understanding that 'blood sacrifices' originate from reptilians and their cohorts. Just curious your take on that, and if Ra was reptilian.

I do not know where the blood sacrifices originated. My experience with reptilians has been minimal in comparison to my experiences with Mantids and Grays. The Mantids are directly associated with the Ra/Ptah ET group as I have revealed in THE EYE OF RA. However, I have never seen them involve themselves directly with the blood sacrifices like the Ra/Ptah group did.

As for sun religions I tend to think worshiping nature and the sun as something that would come along naturally in an unaltered unmanipulated state of development, even if it was brought by ETs at some point too. I gather that the malicious ETs do not want a nature religion on earth. I see nature based religion as a holistic change from the 'other' religions of the world. So if they did use a sun oriented religion, it would be part of the normal disinfo tactics of using potent truth or potent philosophies mixed with the whole point of the psy op, the lies/distortions/division etc.

I refer to the Ra/Ptah ET group as the Serpent/Staff Pleiadians or flying (winged) serpent group because they themselves use these symbols. Other ET groups (i.e., body types) use this symbol as well. I cover this extensively in THE EYE OF RA. This is the sun god worship group. They used the sun, moon, stars, planets--i.e, the lights in the sky--to manipulate people. It is not natural. It is by design. I cover this in the book extensively so it's just too much to write here.

Thanks for your work Truman. I know on the Icke forum years back we had some interactions you may not have liked. I hope you can forgive me for noting past life memories are not exactly credible to me. I have had ample past life manipulations myself including memories of being Jesus. Goes without saying(unless I actually was that person..... lol) that it isn't true. Good you have had confirmation of your past life memories.

Thank you for your kind words, Omni. Just to let you know, I do not expect people to just simply believe me. However, I also felt it was my responsibility to share my firsthand information with the world and to show how this information is already there if we just look. I think CHARIOTS OF THE GODS was the start of it and then Zecharia Sitchin came along and really shook things up lol!

As far as the past lives issue goes, yes, ETs can manipulate/distort the truth. I think we see that also in the Hindu caste religion. However, most people do not understand the past lives phenomenon. There is much to the subject that would take many books to cover. To understand the bigger picture one must also understand the phenomenon of spiritual beings and what we are capable of. A subgroup of that phenomenon would encompass the subject of "entities". I can write more about that if you are interested, but it's getting late now so I have hit the sack. Thanks for your post.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)


Coming to a definitive conclusion on the nature of Ra (nice guy or not) it would need to be determined first that both you and David Wilcock are actually referring to the same being, and from whose perspective his reference is coming from. What I mean by this is he may have had a positive interaction with this being opposed to yours leading you to have opposing opinions. Perhaps also he is just wrong, do you know if his information first hand as in a personal experience?

In your work about the implant stations, which I remember personally being there probably three times or so (some memories are clearer than others) the pain I was subject to during the electric shock procedure sounds like a negative experience and telling others about it would lead them to believe these beings are to be avoided at all costs. This simply is not the case. I say this because of further interactions later on as they have shown me certain events which were to happen that did actually happen and helped with issues I was having as a young child.

They are very deceptive yes but that is merely our perception, something that has been on my mind recently whilst thinking of it is perhaps we are being treated like children or pets. An very bad example could be that I have to tell me dog he is going for a walk, put his lead on him put my coat and shoes on to trick him into the bath! Obviously this is a very simplified example but try and think why one would need to deceive another from their perspective.

The point I am trying to make here is one being could be nice to some and not so nice to others, leading them to form different opinions. Why though is a mystery to me, perhaps it is the old (or first) divide and conquer trick.

Regarding Ra and David Wilcock, it is actually not David Wilcock who says it is the same Ra as the one in Egypt, it is the channeled Ra, himself (or itself) that makes this claim. I also am not excluding the possibility that this so-called "Ra" is an AI--that is, a computer program. After having quite a bit of firsthand experience with channeling, I got the feeling that at least some of it is interactive computer-like programming.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I can only report my own experiences with Mantids, et al, and I also realize that we cannot always predict ET behavior based on body types. They are individuals, too, and I think one has to look at things on a case by case basis. For example, the Mantids that Simon Parkes associates with may not have anything to do with the implant stations. However, Simon did say that they know about them. And that is interesting because I was publishing this information about eighteen years before Simon went public with this information. Again, it is confirmation of the legitimacy of past life memory retrieval, which I mentioned in the previous post. However, I must also add the caveat that ETs often implant false memories (sometimes called "screen memories") so one must know how to get around them and discover what really happened. The screen memories are always the first memories to surface.

TLC

[BF88]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)


Coming to a definitive conclusion on the nature of Ra (nice guy or not) it would need to be determined first that both you and David Wilcock are actually referring to the same being, and from whose perspective his reference is coming from. What I mean by this is he may have had a positive interaction with this being opposed to yours leading you to have opposing opinions. Perhaps also he is just wrong, do you know if his information first hand as in a personal experience?

In your work about the implant stations, which I remember personally being there probably three times or so (some memories are clearer than others) the pain I was subject to during the electric shock procedure sounds like a negative experience and telling others about it would lead them to believe these beings are to be avoided at all costs. This simply is not the case. I say this because of further interactions later on as they have shown me certain events which were to happen that did actually happen and helped with issues I was having as a young child.

They are very deceptive yes but that is merely our perception, something that has been on my mind recently whilst thinking of it is perhaps we are being treated like children or pets. An very bad example could be that I have to tell me dog he is going for a walk, put his lead on him put my coat and shoes on to trick him into the bath! Obviously this is a very simplified example but try and think why one would need to deceive another from their perspective.

The point I am trying to make here is one being could be nice to some and not so nice to others, leading them to form different opinions. Why though is a mystery to me, perhaps it is the old (or first) divide and conquer trick.

Regarding Ra and David Wilcock, it is actually not David Wilcock who says it is the same Ra as the one in Egypt, it is the channeled Ra, himself (or itself) that makes this claim. I also am not excluding the possibility that this so-called "Ra" is an AI--that is, a computer program. After having quite a bit of firsthand experience with channeling, I got the feeling that at least some of it is interactive computer-like programming.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I can only report my own experiences with Mantids, et al, and I also realize that we cannot always predict ET behavior based on body types. They are individuals, too, and I think one has to look at things on a case by case basis. For example, the Mantids that Simon Parkes associates with may not have anything to do with the implant stations. However, Simon did say that they know about them. And that is interesting because I was publishing this information about eighteen years before Simon went public with this information. Again, it is confirmation of the legitimacy of past life memory retrieval, which I mentioned in the previous post. However, I must also add the caveat that ETs often implant false memories (sometimes called "screen memories") so one must know how to get around them and discover what really happened. The screen memories are always the first memories to surface.

TLC

I have been digging around my subconscious the last few years to figure the truth out, its quite a challenge but I am slowly figuring out my own method for it and questioning certain scenarios that I had long believed to be true. In the electro shock place a 'light being' stopped the procedure (which was performed by a small crocodile looking thing but I recognised him, although in a different form if that makes any sense?) from going any further and instructed me (telepathically) to not 'zone out' and concentrate on the pain. After a long time believing this being helped me I have my doubts, perhaps it was part of the deception? It was at this point I met three (i think) scary reptillians who seemed to not be impressed with my presence here so I had to promise not to interfere to be 'allowed in' or something along those lines. I wouldn't have described this place as an implant station, it happened in a room that kind of looked like an English stately home, I have actually been there since then once out of body, I'm pretty sure I know which one it is, I have been there physically as well but couldn't access that part of the building (not that it would make any difference, physically I wouldn't see anything).

When I was thinking about the situation, why this particular being of light was different to others I had met before coming into this false reality (the matrix) and why it refused to show its true form when I asked (apparently it would scare me) is what lead me to start questioning things. The light seemed to emanate from one point, kind of like a torch but other beings are more like 'outlines' of light, imagine turning a gas cooker on without igniting the flame and seeing the gas coming out, it is kind of like that but organised into a structure somewhat resembling a body but not restricted to it (if that makes any sense!)

Although I think I have been deceived over the years I hold no resentment to these beings what so ever. I was informed that before coming into here that the ones who 'lock in' Human beings, or I suppose all the creatures of Earth, are themselves 'locked in' to their reality.

The screen memories you mention Truman seem more like some sort of training exercise to me, perhaps it is something different altogether, do you know or have you experienced such things? It happens during sleep (on my instruction to do so) but was not always the case, I am taken and put into a situation where I have certain tasks to perform in the astral or energy body (terms such as this mean nothing to me but I'm sure you understand), such as fighting some bad guys or getting past a guarded door to find information inside. My guess is this is some sort of training or conditioning for something.

One last question do or does anybody know what a pilot is? I don't mean an airplane pilot either. I heard this during a conversation in such an experience as I have just mentioned, a certain being mentioned he isn't sure why they haven't made me a pilot yet. Could be nothing, thought I might as well ask whilst I'm here.

[TrumanCash]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)


Coming to a definitive conclusion on the nature of Ra (nice guy or not) it would need to be determined first that both you and David Wilcock are actually referring to the same being, and from whose perspective his reference is coming from. What I mean by this is he may have had a positive interaction with this being opposed to yours leading you to have opposing opinions. Perhaps also he is just wrong, do you know if his information first hand as in a personal experience?

In your work about the implant stations, which I remember personally being there probably three times or so (some memories are clearer than others) the pain I was subject to during the electric shock procedure sounds like a negative experience and telling others about it would lead them to believe these beings are to be avoided at all costs. This simply is not the case. I say this because of further interactions later on as they have shown me certain events which were to happen that did actually happen and helped with issues I was having as a young child.

They are very deceptive yes but that is merely our perception, something that has been on my mind recently whilst thinking of it is perhaps we are being treated like children or pets. An very bad example could be that I have to tell me dog he is going for a walk, put his lead on him put my coat and shoes on to trick him into the bath! Obviously this is a very simplified example but try and think why one would need to deceive another from their perspective.

The point I am trying to make here is one being could be nice to some and not so nice to others, leading them to form different opinions. Why though is a mystery to me, perhaps it is the old (or first) divide and conquer trick.

Regarding Ra and David Wilcock, it is actually not David Wilcock who says it is the same Ra as the one in Egypt, it is the channeled Ra, himself (or itself) that makes this claim. I also am not excluding the possibility that this so-called "Ra" is an AI--that is, a computer program. After having quite a bit of firsthand experience with channeling, I got the feeling that at least some of it is interactive computer-like programming.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I can only report my own experiences with Mantids, et al, and I also realize that we cannot always predict ET behavior based on body types. They are individuals, too, and I think one has to look at things on a case by case basis. For example, the Mantids that Simon Parkes associates with may not have anything to do with the implant stations. However, Simon did say that they know about them. And that is interesting because I was publishing this information about eighteen years before Simon went public with this information. Again, it is confirmation of the legitimacy of past life memory retrieval, which I mentioned in the previous post. However, I must also add the caveat that ETs often implant false memories (sometimes called "screen memories") so one must know how to get around them and discover what really happened. The screen memories are always the first memories to surface.

TLC

I have been digging around my subconscious the last few years to figure the truth out, its quite a challenge but I am slowly figuring out my own method for it and questioning certain scenarios that I had long believed to be true. In the electro shock place a 'light being' stopped the procedure (which was performed by a small crocodile looking thing but I recognised him, although in a different form if that makes any sense?) from going any further and instructed me (telepathically) to not 'zone out' and concentrate on the pain. After a long time believing this being helped me I have my doubts, perhaps it was part of the deception? It was at this point I met three (i think) scary reptillians who seemed to not be impressed with my presence here so I had to promise not to interfere to be 'allowed in' or something along those lines. I wouldn't have described this place as an implant station, it happened in a room that kind of looked like an English stately home, I have actually been there since then once out of body, I'm pretty sure I know which one it is, I have been there physically as well but couldn't access that part of the building (not that it would make any difference, physically I wouldn't see anything).

When I was thinking about the situation, why this particular being of light was different to others I had met before coming into this false reality (the matrix) and why it refused to show its true form when I asked (apparently it would scare me) is what lead me to start questioning things. The light seemed to emanate from one point, kind of like a torch but other beings are more like 'outlines' of light, imagine turning a gas cooker on without igniting the flame and seeing the gas coming out, it is kind of like that but organised into a structure somewhat resembling a body but not restricted to it (if that makes any sense!)

Although I think I have been deceived over the years I hold no resentment to these beings what so ever. I was informed that before coming into here that the ones who 'lock in' Human beings, or I suppose all the creatures of Earth, are themselves 'locked in' to their reality.

The screen memories you mention Truman seem more like some sort of training exercise to me, perhaps it is something different altogether, do you know or have you experienced such things? It happens during sleep (on my instruction to do so) but was not always the case, I am taken and put into a situation where I have certain tasks to perform in the astral or energy body (terms such as this mean nothing to me but I'm sure you understand), such as fighting some bad guys or getting past a guarded door to find information inside. My guess is this is some sort of training or conditioning for something.

One last question do or does anybody know what a pilot is? I don't mean an airplane pilot either. I heard this during a conversation in such an experience as I have just mentioned, a certain being mentioned he isn't sure why they haven't made me a pilot yet. Could be nothing, thought I might as well ask whilst I'm here.

Yes, I have experienced screen memories many times. If one goes over the experience multiple times from start to finish, then the screen memories will simply fall away and I then can see what really happened. I cover this extensively in my books and refer to it as "telepathic hypnosis". For example, the "light beings" that people see in NDEs and implant stations, etc, are actually Mantids who use telepathic hypnosis to make you believe they are light beings. Grays and reptilians also use this technique so people think they are actually shape shifters. It's an illusion, though.

[Hervé]

[...]

One last question do or does anybody know what a pilot is? I don't mean an airplane pilot either. I heard this during a conversation in such an experience as I have just mentioned, a certain being mentioned he isn't sure why they haven't made me a pilot yet. Could be nothing, thought I might as well ask whilst I'm here.

This may be related to a "Pilot Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_experiment)"?

[BF88]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)


Coming to a definitive conclusion on the nature of Ra (nice guy or not) it would need to be determined first that both you and David Wilcock are actually referring to the same being, and from whose perspective his reference is coming from. What I mean by this is he may have had a positive interaction with this being opposed to yours leading you to have opposing opinions. Perhaps also he is just wrong, do you know if his information first hand as in a personal experience?

In your work about the implant stations, which I remember personally being there probably three times or so (some memories are clearer than others) the pain I was subject to during the electric shock procedure sounds like a negative experience and telling others about it would lead them to believe these beings are to be avoided at all costs. This simply is not the case. I say this because of further interactions later on as they have shown me certain events which were to happen that did actually happen and helped with issues I was having as a young child.

They are very deceptive yes but that is merely our perception, something that has been on my mind recently whilst thinking of it is perhaps we are being treated like children or pets. An very bad example could be that I have to tell me dog he is going for a walk, put his lead on him put my coat and shoes on to trick him into the bath! Obviously this is a very simplified example but try and think why one would need to deceive another from their perspective.

The point I am trying to make here is one being could be nice to some and not so nice to others, leading them to form different opinions. Why though is a mystery to me, perhaps it is the old (or first) divide and conquer trick.

Regarding Ra and David Wilcock, it is actually not David Wilcock who says it is the same Ra as the one in Egypt, it is the channeled Ra, himself (or itself) that makes this claim. I also am not excluding the possibility that this so-called "Ra" is an AI--that is, a computer program. After having quite a bit of firsthand experience with channeling, I got the feeling that at least some of it is interactive computer-like programming.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I can only report my own experiences with Mantids, et al, and I also realize that we cannot always predict ET behavior based on body types. They are individuals, too, and I think one has to look at things on a case by case basis. For example, the Mantids that Simon Parkes associates with may not have anything to do with the implant stations. However, Simon did say that they know about them. And that is interesting because I was publishing this information about eighteen years before Simon went public with this information. Again, it is confirmation of the legitimacy of past life memory retrieval, which I mentioned in the previous post. However, I must also add the caveat that ETs often implant false memories (sometimes called "screen memories") so one must know how to get around them and discover what really happened. The screen memories are always the first memories to surface.

TLC

I have been digging around my subconscious the last few years to figure the truth out, its quite a challenge but I am slowly figuring out my own method for it and questioning certain scenarios that I had long believed to be true. In the electro shock place a 'light being' stopped the procedure (which was performed by a small crocodile looking thing but I recognised him, although in a different form if that makes any sense?) from going any further and instructed me (telepathically) to not 'zone out' and concentrate on the pain. After a long time believing this being helped me I have my doubts, perhaps it was part of the deception? It was at this point I met three (i think) scary reptillians who seemed to not be impressed with my presence here so I had to promise not to interfere to be 'allowed in' or something along those lines. I wouldn't have described this place as an implant station, it happened in a room that kind of looked like an English stately home, I have actually been there since then once out of body, I'm pretty sure I know which one it is, I have been there physically as well but couldn't access that part of the building (not that it would make any difference, physically I wouldn't see anything).

When I was thinking about the situation, why this particular being of light was different to others I had met before coming into this false reality (the matrix) and why it refused to show its true form when I asked (apparently it would scare me) is what lead me to start questioning things. The light seemed to emanate from one point, kind of like a torch but other beings are more like 'outlines' of light, imagine turning a gas cooker on without igniting the flame and seeing the gas coming out, it is kind of like that but organised into a structure somewhat resembling a body but not restricted to it (if that makes any sense!)

Although I think I have been deceived over the years I hold no resentment to these beings what so ever. I was informed that before coming into here that the ones who 'lock in' Human beings, or I suppose all the creatures of Earth, are themselves 'locked in' to their reality.

The screen memories you mention Truman seem more like some sort of training exercise to me, perhaps it is something different altogether, do you know or have you experienced such things? It happens during sleep (on my instruction to do so) but was not always the case, I am taken and put into a situation where I have certain tasks to perform in the astral or energy body (terms such as this mean nothing to me but I'm sure you understand), such as fighting some bad guys or getting past a guarded door to find information inside. My guess is this is some sort of training or conditioning for something.

One last question do or does anybody know what a pilot is? I don't mean an airplane pilot either. I heard this during a conversation in such an experience as I have just mentioned, a certain being mentioned he isn't sure why they haven't made me a pilot yet. Could be nothing, thought I might as well ask whilst I'm here.

Yes, I have experienced screen memories many times. If one goes over the experience multiple times from start to finish, then the screen memories will simply fall away and I then can see what really happened. I cover this extensively in my books and refer to it as "telepathic hypnosis". For example, the "light beings" that people see in NDEs and implant stations, etc, are actually Mantids who use telepathic hypnosis to make you believe they are light beings. Grays and reptilians also use this technique so people think they are actually shape shifters. It's an illusion, though.

I am pretty sure if it is the mantids as you say, they pretending to be 'light beings' because there are (from my experience) actual light beings beyond 'the matrix', outside of and not distorted or manipulated by it. I doubt my experience of the ones apparently outside of the matrix is a screen memory because of the differences I mentioned between the 'beings' which is not just their appearance, but the feeling you get from them. The memory from outside the matrix is 'before' coming into the influence and 'geographic location' (for want of a better term, at which point I was told that everything beyond here is an illusion).

Concerning telepathic hypnosis: I have seen, whilst trying to go to sleep, flashing 'hypnotic' images of the kind what look like the sort of thing in books of 'magick' or sigils (circles with smaller triangles in different colours moving around and flashing etc) proceeded by peculiar looking beings peeking through at me. My theory on this is that the flashing images was their hypnosis at work. The reason that it did not work, in my opinion, was due to my use of a medicine called modafinil (stimulant), which I use to help work / study, too close to the time I went to bed. Basically it keeps your mind awake whilst your body is ready to go to sleep, probably the cause of the failure of the hypnosis, if that is what actually happened. After a lot of consideration I think this was the hypnosis used in order to take one out of body into a situation / screen memory but on the other hand I have been taken whilst fully awake as a child so I couldn't say what is what with any amount of certainty regarding that.

[Maunagarjana]

David Wilcock recently said "The Blue Avians appear to be the same Ra that delivered the Law of One." (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80427-David-Wilcock-post-in-response-to-Ben-Fulford-2015-03-02-report-Confusion-and-chaos-at-highest-levels-of-G7-governments-as-revolution-begins&p=939128&viewfull=1#post939128))

If that is true, then I would be concerned. Here's why--

David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being(s) who is the same Ra as the Egyptian Ra. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I don't mean that David is doing any deceiving, though, as I am only referring to the channeling itself. I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though, so I am not putting down David Wilcock or the positive things he does.)



Hi, Truman....I posted this in the other thread you linked to, but I'm posting it here to to make sure you see it.

Truman, I have read your experience with the being Ra from your past life. And truly he sounds like a negative being. Not anyone that I would like to be associated with, that's for sure. And yet, I very much value the teachings of the Ra Material. Maybe this seems contradictory to you? But let me share with you my understanding of this, to try to clear up some confusion.

What I believe is this: There was more than one Ra. That is, more than one being or groups of beings going by that name. Ra is just a name. We humans place a lot of importance on names, but from what I can gather, ETs don't necessarily place the same importance upon names. They may take different names in different cultures on different continents. They may not even have names at all. In some cases, contactees will be forced to give them a name just to refer to them as something. Case in point, George Adamski. He said the human ETs he met didn't actually have names, so he made up names that he felt suited them, such as Orthon and Firkon and Zuhl.

Now, if you look at the names of Egyptian deities, there are a great plethora of Ra names. There is Ra-Horakhty , Amun-Ra, Atum-Ra, and many other lesser known ones. Then there is the Aten. To put forward that all these different Ra names are the same being or groups of beings is to me nothing more than an assumption. A convenient and rather sloppy assumption, imho. And if any old extraterrestrial showed up and claim to be Ra, who would disagree with them? The Ra you met as Ramses II I don't think I'd try to argue with. He seemed like a mean SOB.

There is also the possibility that an extraterrestrial or group of extraterrestrials could show up, and be labeled something by the Egyptians because they represented in their minds some principal they associated with a god. This is exactly what the Ra Collective who delivered the Law of One books said happened. They said they were assigned the name Ra, because the Egyptians associated their message of oneness with the Sun. They said they walked among the Egyptians, that they had these very tall and thin bodies with golden skin. But when the Egyptians started worshiping them, they said they felt uncomfortable and hypocritical, because their purpose was to teach them the Law of One, that All is One, and that all is connected. They weren't seeking the place themselves above anyone. And interestingly, I asked a friend of mine who is very into the ancient Egyptian religion if there was anything like their description of themselves in the Egyptian writings, and he said that yes, in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the gods are described as having "golden skin" and "silver bones". Did the being you met have golden skin? No, I don't believe he did, did he?

Anyway, I hope you're following my reasoning here, and that you will question the rather rigid way you are thinking about this, assuming that any being called Ra must be the same exact person. I think it is important to realize that stolen identities are not just a thing of this planet. Based on my research, including many things, such as your own past life memories and Wes Penre's writings have led me to believe that at least one of the beings known as Ra in ancient Egypt was the one who was also known to us as the Babylonian god Marduk, the son of Ea (aka Enki). It could be that other individuals associated with Marduk or working for Marduk may have been allowed to claim that name at other times. I also think it's possible that Marduk could be the basis for the figure of Satan as well. (Satan being a Hebrew word meaning "adversary").

I'm really trying to stress to you just how much more complicated this could be than how you've presented it. And I just want to let it be known that I for one completely reject the possibility that the Ra that you met as Ramses II had anything to do with those beings who transmitted the Law of One books. The only thing they have in common is that they shared a syllable. That's it. The Ra Collective, as they have been called (that is *not* their name...they said they don't actually have a name) gave teachings that are completely at odds with and entirely undermines the negative programming going on upon this planet, which would be entirely counterproductive for a negative ET (such as the one you were acquainted with) to do.

Look, hypothetically speaking, I could go on some other forum and start up an account called "Truman Cash" and pose as you and lead people to believe I'm you, and in many people's eyes who accepted this misrepresentation unquestioningly, I could possibly tarnish your reputation. But that would only be a false appearance, right? It would not have anything to do with you. Correct? Because it's Just A Name.

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for your input, Maunagarjana. Yes, I certainly have considered that the author(s) of the "Law of One" material are not the same "Ra" that I knew. It have assumed nothing. From my previous reading of the Law of One material, it is the author(s) themselves (or itself) that have identified themselves/itself as the same Ra of Egypt. Also, I have found that most people who read the Law of One material assume that it is the same Ra, which I agree with you is most likely not the same Ra that I knew. It is an understandable assumption that is made since very few people really know who Ra was. I mean, when entities are channeled how does one confirm with any kind of certainty who they actually are?

I don't see how anyone can do that simply by reading a book.

Also, I have observed that whenever someone or a group of people accepts another entity or entities as a source for truth, they are opening up themselves to be programmed (i.e., mind controlled). This is the basis of "social implants", which I explain in my books and can be seen in religions and group philosophies. I have seen even very intelligence people become so enthralled with a book, charismatic person or a channeled entity that they neglect themselves as a source for truth.

I have found that we can all discover truth (i.e., what is really going on) for ourselves, but it does require extensive past life memory retrieval to find out who one is as a spiritual being and it also takes very focused discernment. In other words, one does not need any channeled entities to tell one what the truth is. From my extensive research that I have conducted over the past forty some years, I have yet to find one channeled entity or entities that does not include false and/or misleading information in their channelings. It is what I call the "package deal". They present a lot of truth (along with information that cannot be verified) but bury bits of false of information in it, which often cannot be verified by most people, so people tend to accept the whole package of information including the false information. It is sometimes the case that the greatest amount of truth contains the biggest lies.

Also, when one becomes absorbed in channeled information or information from one source, one can neglect to find the truth that we all can access for ourselves without having to blindly accept information from entities which cannot verified as to who they are or if they are who they say they are.

So I caution people not to believe me or accept what I say as truth. I tell people to do their own research and do not accept some other entity as a source for their truth.

If you don't mind my asking, did you read THE EYE OF RA in its entirety? I ask this because I've really gone in depth on this subject in that book and have even included some of my personal experiences with channeling.

Thanks again for you input,

Best Wishes to You,
TLC