Below Suface, Moon is Battered, Cracked Heap

[AriG]

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The moon took quite a beating in its early days, more than previously believed, scientists reported Wednesday.

This surprising new view of the moon comes from detailed gravity mapping by twin spacecraft, which slipped into orbit around the celestial body earlier this year.

I don't see this posted here yet, so if it has already been, my apologies.

What do we make of this? Pardon the pun, but this news release seems to be "full of holes".

Asking for others' opinions here about:

* Twin spacecraft? I don't recall hearing about that
* Technology that allows a scan of 25 miles into the crust of the orb?
* Why we can peer into the Moon's crust, yet we can't seem to locate and/or rescue coal miners on our own planet?
* The intended purpose of this endeavor ( the real one ).

I am not an expert on such subjects, but many of you are. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.



http://www.usnews.com/science/news/articles/2012/12/05/below-surface-moon-is-a-battered-cracked-heap

[sirdipswitch]

AriG Great find, thanks. Sounds to me as if we're makin big enough waves for "Them" to become concerned, and renew their disinfo.

Durring the early 70's, two Russian scientists co-authored two books about their theory that the moon is a Starship, that were an absolute gem, in their scientific evaluation, of it. I purchased and read both, as they came out. In the books they surmized that in order to withstand the rigors of high speed travel for countless years through space which is filled with rocks of all sizes, they claimed that the Moon would need a crust of 15 miles thick, of almost pure Titanium. (Just their metal of choice) When we landed on the Moon, we did a bunch of sismic testing to see what the Moon was made of. With each blast of their testing, the Moon would ring like a bell, for an hour. The Russion scientists wanted the US, to take up a hundred megaton A bomb, and set it off. The US refused. At the same time, a large meteor slamed into the backside of the Moon, with about the same force as a hundred megaton bomb, just like they had wanted. The Moon rang like a bell, for 4 hours. PLUS... the sound waves measured by the sisimc instruments, revealed the sound waves to be traveling at the same rate of speed that sound travels through "Titanium"! And.. they dicovered the "Crust"/Hull of the Ship... to be about 15 miles thick.

Those two books are no longer in print, and you can't find them. The last one I found was 12 years ago, and they wanted 1000 bucks for it, which was a bit out of my reach. There are a couple more that are on Amazon, written by someone else that are based on those books. That's what David Ike, refers to. (Haven't read them)

Now that I have become an experienced "Out of Body Traveler", I fully concur with those two Russian scientists. However, I would warn you, that the Moon is very heavily guarded from Astral/Psychic investigation. hmm. Those in the interior, are freindly,, those on the exterior are not.
:wizard:

[chancy]

AriG Great find, thanks. Sounds to me as if we're makin big enough waves for "Them" to become concerned, and renew their disinfo.

Durring the early 70's, two Russian scientists co-authored two books about their theory that the moon is a Starship, that were an absolute gem, in their scientific evaluation, of it. I purchased and read both, as they came out. In the books they surmized that in order to withstand the rigors of high speed travel for countless years through space which is filled with rocks of all sizes, they claimed that the Moon would need a crust of 15 miles thick, of almost pure Titanium. (Just their metal of choice) When we landed on the Moon, we did a bunch of sismic testing to see what the Moon was made of. With each blast of their testing, the Moon would ring like a bell, for an hour. The Russion scientists wanted the US, to take up a hundred megaton A bomb, and set it off. The US refused. At the same time, a large meteor slamed into the backside of the Moon, with about the same force as a hundred megaton bomb, just like they had wanted. The Moon rang like a bell, for 4 hours. PLUS... the sound waves measured by the sisimc instruments, revealed the sound waves to be traveling at the same rate of speed that sound travels through "Titanium"! And.. they dicovered the "Crust"/Hull of the Ship... to be about 15 miles thick.

Those two books are no longer in print, and you can't find them. The last one I found was 12 years ago, and they wanted 1000 bucks for it, which was a bit out of my reach. There are a couple more that are on Amazon, written by someone else that are based on those books. That's what David Ike, refers to. (Haven't read them)

Now that I have become an experienced "Out of Body Traveler", I fully concur with those two Russian scientists. However, I would warn you, that the Moon is very heavily guarded from Astral/Psychic investigation. hmm. Those in the interior, are freindly,, those on the exterior are not.
:wizard:

Hello Sirdipswitch: Thanks for the most informative Information! Can you give the name of the book written by the 2 Russian Scientists and who the Scientists are?
Thanks for the information.
chancy

[ThePythonicCow]

During the early 70's, two Russian scientists co-authored two books about their theory that the moon is a Starship
Any relation to the two Russian scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, as mentioned in the following? I see mention of one article in the Soviet journal Sputnik, but no mention of two books.
From http://hellenandchaos.blogspot.com/2010/04/russian-academics-vasin-and-shcherbakov.html




The Moon is an artificial Earth satellite put into orbit around the Earth by some intelligent beings unknown to ourselves.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceship_Moon_Theory



The Spaceship Moon Theory, also known as the Vasin-Shcherbakov Theory, is a theory that claims the Earth's moon may actually be an alien spacecraft. The theory was put forth by two members of the then Soviet Academy of Sciences, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, in a July 1970 article entitled "Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?".[1]

Vasin and Shcherbakov's thesis was that the Moon is a hollowed-out planetoid created by unknown beings with technology far superior to any on Earth. Huge machines would have been used to melt rock and form large cavities within the Moon, with the resulting molten lava spewing out onto the Moon's surface. The Moon would therefore consist of a hull-like inner shell and an outer shell made from metallic rocky slag. For reasons unknown, the "Spaceship Moon" was then placed into orbit around the Earth.[1]
From http://www.disinfo.com/2010/09/who-parked-the-moon/



In July 1970, two Russian scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, published an article in the Soviet journal Sputnik entitled “Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?” They advanced the theory that the Moon is not a completely natural world, but a planetoid that was hollowed out eons ago in the far reaches of space by intelligent beings possessing a technology far superior to ours. Huge machines were used to melt rock and form large cavities within the Moon, spewing the molten refuse onto the surface. Protected by a hull-like inner shell plus a reconstructed outer shell of metallic rocky junk, this gigantic craft was steered through the cosmos and finally parked in orbit around the Earth.
From http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_24.htm



Two Russian scientists, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov advanced an amazing theory in relation to the origin of the moon, in an article published in the Soviet journal Sputnik, in 1970.

In the article entitled, ‘Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?’ they theorize that the moon is not a completely natural world but a planetoid that was hollowed out by the technology of intelligent beings who directed it through the cosmos and placed it in precise orbit around the earth.
From http://www.trudeausociety.com/home/Frontpage/2008/09/16/02245.html



Two Soviet scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, have spent much of their careers examining the facts compiled on lunar phenomena. Their conclusion is that the Moon is artificial, possibly a hollowed-out planet, and that it was steered from some distant region of the galaxy into a circular orbit around our planet (hence the extraordinary mystery of rock and Moon-dust age variations). They claim that intellectual life has existed in the Moon for eons.
From http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/05/23/02372.html



Dr. N. Huntley then further documents that Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov two members of the then Soviet Academy of Sciences, have spent much of their careers examining the facts compiled on lunar phenomena. Their conclusion is that the Moon is artificial, possibly a hollowed-out planetoid, and that it was steered from some distant region of the galaxy into a circular orbit around our planet (hence the extraordinary mystery of rock and Moon-dust age variations). The Spaceship Moon Theory cited in Wikipedia, also known as the Vasin-Shcherbakov Theory, proposes that Earth's moon may actually be an alien spacecraft. Evidence by these two Soviet scientists were documented in a July 1970 article titled "Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?".

[Carmody]

Sounds like those particular books need to be scanned and turned into free pdf's.

Writing a book full of information, is one heck of a lot more meaningful and difficult to dismiss than a paragraph. the paragraph can be dismissed as crackpot, whereas doing so to a book, is much harder to do. thus, the difficulty of finding this book....

Which is the why of the need for a pdf version.

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Now that I have become an experienced "Out of Body Traveler", I fully concur with those two Russian scientists. However, I would warn you, that the Moon is very heavily guarded from Astral/Psychic investigation. hmm. Those in the interior, are freindly,, those on the exterior are not.
:wizard:

I have ventured astrally to the surface of the moon. I was henceforth told by someone, 'don't do that'.

[DeDukshyn]

Let's assume the artificial satellite theory, I wonder if moving the moon into "place" would potentially cause a global type flooding through the gravitational exchanges that did not previously exist, a flood of biblical proportions? Just food for thought ;) Perhaps the moon is/was the Earth cleaning machine? ;)

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Linda Moulton Howe posted yesterday on her website NASA images showing a 300-mile linear gravity anamoly on the far side of the moon (I'm too ingnorant to understand what that means, though). Interesting.

http://www.earthfiles.com/

[ThePythonicCow]

Linda Moulton Howe posted yesterday on her website NASA images showing a 300-mile linear gravity anamoly on the far side of the moon (I'm too ingnorant to understand what that means, though). Interesting.

http://www.earthfiles.com/
Yes, interesting.

I suppose it means that there is a line of denser material, below the surface. Nothing shows of the line on the surface (the topography map in the article you are referring to, at December 5, 2012 - Moon's Far Side Has Ancient Anomalous Straight Line of Low Gravity (earthfiles.com) (http://www.earthfiles.com/#MoonFarSideGravityAnomaly120512)), but the gravitational field is stronger along that line, so something denser is below the surface.

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
Thanks for the very informative information! I would like to read these books but I suspect that they don't exist in North America BUT in Russia I am sure they still are around. If someone can give me the names of the two books it might be possible to get a copy of them from the Russians. Hopefully they will have an english version of both books.
chancy

[Hervé]

According to the legend on NASA's site the anomaly is a gravity low interpreted as a low density dyke of a 500 Km length... having been eroded out of the surface as a structure by later "cratering" of whatever origin.



Well, it's either that or a large 500 Km long highway tunnel. No other data available to make the differentiation:



http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/711409main_Andrews-Hanna-4-pia16581-43_946-710.jpg


The Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory (GRAIL) mission has two spacecraft in the same orbit around the moon. As the two fly over areas of greater and lesser gravity, caused both by visible features such as mountains and craters, and by masses hidden beneath the lunar surface, the two spacecraft will move slightly toward and away from each other allowing instruments onboard each craft to measure very precisely the Moon's gravitational field.


Gravity Gradient: Red areas have stronger gravity, while blue areas have weaker gravity.


Topography: Red is higher terrain and blue is lower, measured by Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter's Lunar Orbiter Laser Altimeter.


Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/CSM (http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2012-385#2). Also see: GRAIL Mission. (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/grail/main/index.html)


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Here's where NASA deserves their "Never A Straight Answer" nickname:


In the picture below and its legend, the blue line (negative anomaly) is explained with a higher-density-than-surrounding-rocks anomaly (positive anomaly), contradicting themselves in comparison to the above picture and legend:


http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/711431main_Andrews-Hanna-6-pia16583-43_946-710.jpg
GRAIL Identifies Moon Dikes

A profile across one of the linear gravity anomalies found by NASA's GRAIL mission shows that it has higher gravity than the surroundings (the anomaly is the red line in graph at bottom left; its location is shown as a blue line in the center of the GRAIL gravity gradient map at top left). Models show that this gravity pattern indicates the presence of giant dikes beneath the surface of the moon (white line in graph at bottom left). A dike is a solidified magma filled crack that forms beneath the surface.

Dikes on Earth are sometimes exposed by erosion so that they are visible on the surface, as seen at Ship Rock, New Mexico, pictured here at right. The lunar dikes identified by GRAIL are 50 times longer and 1,000 times wider than the dike seen here.

Image credits, Left: NASA/JPL-Caltech/CSM, Right: Photo Copyright © Louis Maher

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In other words, they haven't got a frikking clue of what they are talking about!


But it definitely demonstrates that the Moon is made of green cheese Gruyere... :)

[aviators]

Great subject. The moon is a fascinating subject. I keep going back to this interview with James Horak. This guy seems to be connected with info.
The whole interview is great IMHO. Listen to what James says about the moon. It was used as a spacecraft and originally parked around mars.
Starts arround the 10.0 min. mark.



KiiD_PqrGuE

[AriG]

Thank you to everyone who has responded. We really must get copies of those books. I am beginning to believe that the "moon landings" truly were staged and never happened as well. Also am very curious about the Van Allen Belt and how a 1960's space craft could have made it through the radiation. Why haven't they sent a manned craft back to the moon? Etc.