View Full Version : Medvedev unexpectedly reveals secret presence of ET bases in Russia
Praxis
8th December 2012, 17:42
Just came across a sky news video and an article about Russian PM whose mic was left on. Very interesting. Thought this community would like to be aware it existed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZSNSAiCBw4
and the article
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/07/us-russia-medvedev-idUSBRE8B616L20121207
Make of it what you will
Jean-Luc
8th December 2012, 17:42
Dec 8, 2012
Here is my rough translation from Flemish of this video clip posted today by Belgian MSM newspaper De Morgen
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/3825/Buitenland/video/detail/1545755/Russische-president-heeft-informatie-over-buitenaardse-wezens.dhtml
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev gave a life interview with 5 TV stations. The journalists asked questions about politics, pension, news laws, etc.
At the end of the broadcast, he laughed about President Putin who regularly comes late at appointments.
"Dear colleagues. People should be strictly on time. But somebody chooses to be late as often as possible".
Clearly Medvedev had not realized that the microphone was still on.
But after he disappears from the screen, the conversation gets really surrealistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I7P5BXhpQw&feature=youtu.be
“Together with the safe with nuclear codes, the President of this country receives a special map.
“This map contains ultra secret information on extra-terrestrial beings who visited our planet.
“He also receives a report about the top secret special units who keep control over the E.T. in our country.
“You can find detailed information on this subject in the well known movie 'Men in Black'.
“There are several movies about that.
“I will not tell how many E.T. beings there are among us, because that could cause a panic.”
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Post edit : please check improved translation at post#14 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52871-Medvedev-unexpectedly-reveals-secret-presence-of-ET-bases-in-Russia&p=595408&viewfull=1#post595408)
Operator
8th December 2012, 18:15
I don't think this is a 'planted' hoax. Medvedev clearly didn't know he was being recorded because he was
critical about Putin, which could damage him.
In case of a deliberate false statement he would have chosen the public part to be sure enough people
would have heard this message.
So now it's time for the US MSM to pick up the glove and ask the US president if he receives similar stuff
when he is inaugurated.
By the way ... this seems to match closely to an item from the webbot report. It said that something would
happen live on MSM TV that would astound the journalists themselves as it happens.
After that the ball would start rolling .... Sounds like it, doesn't it? ;)
Arrowwind
8th December 2012, 18:46
Make of it what you will
I will make nothing of it.
Typical banter of a cynic.
Star Tsar
8th December 2012, 18:55
But to you see the sensationalism look at the name of the clip the word invasion.
YUCK
Wind
8th December 2012, 18:56
This the only official disclosure which we will ever receive.
Limor Wolf
8th December 2012, 19:09
There is not much that goes 'naturally' these days, so it very well can be a staged occurance which seems as an accident. anything else that is not to be talked about is NOT talked about, especially infront of journalists. This is something that an experienced lawyer and politician such as Medavdev is very well aware of.
"Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special 'top secret' folder. This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet," Medvedev answered playfully."
The Reuters article mentions Medavdev said it "playfully' , so I wouldn't hurry to jump on this wagon just yet.
christian
8th December 2012, 19:31
I'm seeing kind of a build-up, maybe. There was Gordon Duff with his story about an alien-encounter in the Pacific (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/). Then Christoph Hörstel, Middle East expert and politician, talked about UFOs (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50775-More-Signs-for-a-Shift-in-Consciousness&p=593246&viewfull=1#post593246) out of the blue and very assertively. Now this strange thing with Medvedev, I find this all quite curious, but don't wanna jump to any conclusion anyways.
Operator
8th December 2012, 20:31
The Reuters article mentions Medavdev said it "playfully' , so I wouldn't hurry to jump on this wagon just yet.
I think they may have chosen this extra word to defuse the message ... they know they will be quoted and the
world is watching. This way they can bail out if the water gets hot.
When you think about, why this message in this context?
Could it be in relation to the critique he had on Putin? He is always late, like doesn't take things serious enough,
this "jerk" is now the carrier of the nuclear codes and knows where the ET's are.
Could it be things are getting serious and he uttered his frustration?
The title in the SkyNews video is "Alien invasion" ... that was not repeated in the Reuters article. It could be
useful to have a Russian speaking member here to translate what was literally said.
It was no accident, he went on to explicitly mention that special agencies are involved ... :ear:
Limor Wolf
8th December 2012, 20:57
The Reuters article mentions Medavdev said it "playfully' , so I wouldn't hurry to jump on this wagon just yet.
I think they may have chosen this extra word to defuse the message ... they know they will be quoted and the
world is watching. This way they can bail out if the water gets hot.
Very well can be, Operator, I agree. although, knowing very well the times we are in, and the way things work, it makes sense for various reasons that they will let 'mistakes' like this 'slip' every now and then, just to warm the watter slightly more, as in the boiling frog syndrom, they need to bring the publics opinion to a certain place if they want to issue a 'war against off worlders' for example, It will be absolutely difficult to be done if nothing as small as a suspicion exists on the mind of the average Joe. a 'slip' here and there will help with the water temprature so the frogs stay inside. Medavdev, Putin, Obama etc. are puppets to their masters, they follow the direction they need to follow, those types of 'secrets' where kept in full from the public for so many years and now, they want, or have no choice but throw a bone here and there, and as usual, use the situation to their own benefit.
Molope
8th December 2012, 21:53
From what i have seen around they say he was joking.
seko
8th December 2012, 22:05
I guess we need someone that speaks Russian to confirm this.... otherwise it could be a lie.
Nickolai
9th December 2012, 01:31
Hi, everyone!
I confirm what was being said by Medvedev.
No comments.
LOL, I am puzzled!
TheTwo
9th December 2012, 01:39
here's my attempt to translate....the words below are all said by him, although i cannot fully understand the "report to special forces" part. He seems to be saying, a report is created TO special forces group dealing....
also, he never says "map", he says top-secret FOLDER
here it is:
*Hard to hear beginning of this line…a lot of noise
"i am telling you (the story), first and last time. Together with receiving a case with nuclear codes, president gets a special folder.
On it it is written, TOP SECRET. And it is fully and completely dedicated to aliens that visited our planet. At the same time, report is created (*1*) to absolutely secret (lit. "closed") special forces that deal with controlling aliens on our country's territory. More detailed information you can receive from a well known "chronicle"(*2*) documentary "Men in Black"
Female voice: how many of them are among us, you won't tell?
Medvedev: how many of them among us, i won't tell, as it can cause panic.
(*1*) this part does not make sense to me, but that is what he literally says.
(*2*) not too sure about this word, chronicle..
chancy
9th December 2012, 02:33
I guess we need someone that speaks Russian to confirm this.... otherwise it could be a lie.
Hello Everyone:
I hate to burst everyones bubble but Medvedev was more than likely joking since by understanding Russian completely he said that when you become president you get a folder telling you all about Aliens. When asked what he meant Medvedev said you need to watch "Men in Black" for the answers. That tells me he was positively joking. Unfortunately this did not help in disclosure of any kind.
chancy
Shade
9th December 2012, 02:37
He was just joking ... he at the end of it says for more info see the movie "The Men in Black"... and it was in response to a question from a journalist. As in it wasn't him "not being aware that he was heard." ANYTHING spoken in response to a question to a journalist is reportable... Saying he revealed secrets without knowing he was being heard or similar allusions isn't an accurate portrayal. He was just being sarcastic.
Wookie
9th December 2012, 07:24
I have a feeling this story will get alot of air time in the main stream media. I listen to what i believe is a decent local new station when I'm driving and this story was on 3-4 times an hour, so almost as much as traffic witch is every 10 minutes lol.
Medvedev a new 'Men in Black' agent in the making? Russian premier jokes about aliens (http://www.news1130.com/news/world/article/429646--medvedev-a-new-men-in-black-agent-in-the-making-russian-premier-jokes-about-aliens)
No matter how much truth there is to this story it will end up as a giant smear campaign.
Just focus on this light
http://thejerseycritic.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/mib5.jpg
Peaceful Journeys Wookie
Operator
9th December 2012, 08:33
No matter how much truth there is to this story
The momentum should be used to unhinge the door
it will end up as a giant smear campaign.
Could it be that we are all waiting for someone else to use this momentum?
If we just wait and keep believing in a negative outcome ourselves there will never be a change.
We keep defusing our own power ...
Operator
9th December 2012, 09:10
NDZmaww9vos
Can somebody speaking Russian confirm that this is the same part but now "on camera" ?
If it is then it seems to me that Medvedev must have know he was ON camera ...
Jean-Luc
9th December 2012, 09:10
here's my attempt to translate....the words below are all said by him, although i cannot fully understand the "report to special forces" part. He seems to be saying, a report is created TO special forces group dealing....
also, he never says "map", he says top-secret FOLDER
here it is:
*Hard to hear beginning of this line…a lot of noise
"i am telling you (the story), first and last time. Together with receiving a case with nuclear codes, president gets a special folder.
On it it is written, TOP SECRET. And it is fully and completely dedicated to aliens that visited our planet. At the same time, report is created (*1*) to absolutely secret (lit. "closed") special forces that deal with controlling aliens on our country's territory. More detailed information you can receive from a well known "chronicle"(*2*) documentary "Men in Black"
Female voice: how many of them are among us, you won't tell?
Medvedev: how many of them among us, i won't tell, as it can cause panic.
(*1*) this part does not make sense to me, but that is what he literally says.
(*2*) not too sure about this word, chronicle..
Many thanks TheTwo. I've updated the comment on the youtube video based on your translation.
By the way, just for the fun, here is a comment from "an alien friend" that was posted there
For several years now, we have been here to prepare for this very moment. Many of you have seen our likes throughout your travels and have opening and secretly conveyed your thoughts to others. Some have been ridiculed and others have been labeled "crazy". Is it not enough that you continue to believe in other trivial things and yet you look all around you in this wondorous awe inspiring universe and think you're alone. We come in peace and have no interests in starting wars 22-12-12
With al the knowledge we are sharing here on Avalon/Camelot, why not after all. Basically, it could just be that the actors (Medvedev & others) are tired and feel (or are being told) this joke has been going on for long enough. I have zero feeling that, if this is being staged (as it surely can be) that this can in any sort of way be directed towards shaping fear / war / threats and the like with respect to aliens.
Jean-Luc
9th December 2012, 09:23
At least the journalist seems to find the story quite enjoyable.
After the 'Shadow Operation to Mars (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51891-The-Project-Camelot-TruTV-pilot-episode-SHADOW-OPERATIONS-The-Mars-Project&p=581997&viewfull=1#post581997)' now public knowledge, who said this should be terrifying news ? :)
Malachi
9th December 2012, 09:26
NDZmaww9vos
Can somebody speaking Russian confirm that this is the same part but now "on camera" ?
If it is then it seems to me that Medvedev must have know he was ON camera ...
Yes, it's the same, this is it. Medvedev was joking, it's clear as day.
ThePythonicCow
9th December 2012, 10:05
Yes, it's the same, this is it. Medvedev was joking, it's clear as day.
I suspect that Medvedev could well be joking deliberately. That is, presenting a clue, but doing so in a manner that allows the listener (and Medvedev himself) to dismiss the clue as just a joke, if so inclined. Such a "joke" (of serious information) would be consistent with the work that Russia is doing, for example with RT.COM, to discredit Western governments and to gain credibility as a more honest government.
apokalypse
9th December 2012, 10:50
on Avalone regarding Et/Aliens we all know the truth but what amaze me is the truth is on mainstream media... Dmitry Medvedev joking or not but think about it, what kind of idiot think we only one live on this universe? believe we never been visited? never communicated with Aliens? ....Dmitry Medvedev pretty much confirm it in his way, because he's joking and we debunk all of those 3 question?
7 Billion people on earth and nobody communicated with guys from outer space? lol, that's a massive problem when nobody communicate with us human on earth...what's wrong with us?
deridan
9th December 2012, 12:24
if the map with alien bases is received,
one needs to (first mock the other pres who doesn't receive this, then) ask what type of alien bases they are,
if one thinks in MIB terms, the bases deal with alien immigration and monitoring, which it would be ridicules to group all bases in,
some atleast should be about craft research (& storage), & perhaps some research facilities in coordination with species who would so allow
SKIBADABOMSKI
9th December 2012, 12:37
Here's a better translation..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5GbEK8S1p4
Flash
9th December 2012, 13:57
The journalist is laughing as the prime minister is explaining. Although it may be serious, it definitely has a tang of slavic joking style as well. Joking styles are different from person to person and are culturally based as well. I have seen whole groups of people not from my culture laughing like crazy at some things I would not find funny, and me laughing alone at other things, in the same cinema theatre and the same movie.
Czarek
9th December 2012, 15:15
Here's a better translation..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5GbEK8S1p4
translation is not word for word in this video. For example, segment 0:21 -0.22 is not translated.
Scott
9th December 2012, 16:47
NDZmaww9vos
Can somebody speaking Russian confirm that this is the same part but now "on camera" ?
If it is then it seems to me that Medvedev must have know he was ON camera ...
I will ask one of my previous Guests Dr. Stoyan Sarg (http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/Archive/dr-stoyan-sarg-ufo-propulsion-technology.html) (Physicist) and get his translation of this video as well as what inflection he perceives.
Scott
Operator
9th December 2012, 17:44
Maybe we think too much black and white ...
How would your reaction be if e.g. out of the blue Barack Obama or a former US president would
tell you (seriously intended) this information? I think everyone here would be perplexed but joyful
at the same time. Although it was not completely out of the blue, she asked for it.
But the reaction might be the same getting this (unexpected) answer.
Analysis is good but maybe we try to find evidence on a slippery slope.
I think we should learn from Rahm Emanuel:
You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.
This created a momentum and has media attention now ... instead of fighting and being divided over
the pro's and con's the momentum should be used to make a stride forward.
Nickolai
9th December 2012, 18:55
He definitely ws aware of the cameras. Both the journalist and Medvedev did that on purpose but I can not understand why, for what purpose. The only explanation comes to mind is that he was interviewed by the Journalist of RenTv the channel that is specialising on the rumors, scandals, UFOs.
I have read today also that in the same show, off cameras he was asked if he believed in Santa Claus....
TheTwo
9th December 2012, 20:09
second video is quite clear, all words make sense. I could revise my translation slightly for words i didn't hear the first time.
let's speculate for a second:
if i have some "new-to-sleeping-humanity" information, and i come out and tell it to you straight up. For example: "anything that you can read, anywhere....is not truth." In other words, truth cannot be put into words. If you can formulate it - it's not truth. Hence all you think you know right now, everything that you read since you went to school - is not how it really is".
Your first reaction, if you are not prepared to put your life upside down.......you laugh :) you make it a joke, thereby refusing what i am saying as truth. But you are closely watching my reaction to your joke assumption. If i smile and laugh, you will confirm that it was a joke and laugh even more. If i make a grin, you can go on explaining to yourself that i am just crazy and on drugs. If I go off-camera, you end up in a mystery state....you will go on and search the internets to find out if it's true or not....you will waste a lot of time doing that, because the answer to your question will not bring you closer to truth, it will just re-define or confirm your truth. And the easy and most amazing part is - you don't need to search for truth, you can define it in a split second"
Come on, is there a single person here that truly believes that there is no top-secret information passed along behind closed-to-public doors? Some of that information is about ET, some about secret technologies... so why is this video making anyone surprised enough to wonder if it's true or not? you already know there are aliens, HAARP, chemtrails, secret elite, new world order and so on.... why keep seeking confirmation? it will never come! Even if Obama comes out tomorrow saying Men-In-Black is a documentary, some percentage of people will take it as a funny joke, some will take it as "THE DISCLOSURE!". Oh wait, it's not Obama, but Medvedev, so it's not credible enough (maybe because he is not a president anymore).
So what is actually changing here? - it's your perception on the world. :] You decide what the world is, you decide how your day is going to roll out. You decide what is bull**** and what is not. The most beautiful thing is: "you don't need any, what you call, authority, to tell you what is true and what is not!!!" When you realize that you have power to change your perception on such things, and the missing key is - by changing your perspective, you change the nature of those things. Remember the observer effect? it applies to molecules, cells, energy.... and what are YOU? molecules? cells? bacteria? energy?
Your thought changes how you look, how you feel, what you do, what you hear, what you see... if you can change yourself so dramatically, isn't that enough to conclude that you change the world with your perception of it?
So, my advice is, put all bull**** (including words above and below) where it belongs, make up your mind on the world, and go fkn enjoy it! :)
With love,
Two
Keltikmuse
9th December 2012, 20:11
I believe we are slowly being drip fed, and led along the path of belief. The 'powers that be' do not believe us mere mortals can take the truth and as prophesied, that there will soon be an announcement of a UFO siting, it seems to me all these little clues are here to make the announcement less shocking. :confused:
Aurvandil
9th December 2012, 20:43
Yesterday Julia Gilliard, today Medvedev - what is this? If they are joking, I can only wonder if they don´t have more important things to like running their countries? Unless what they are saying is true... :confused::confused:
Operator
9th December 2012, 21:35
Yesterday Julia Gilliard, today Medvedev - what is this?
This combination made me wonder too :p If Julia Gilliard would be right (but it was a joke ;)) it doesn't make
a difference anymore what Medvedev said one day later .... :(
If they are joking, I can only wonder if they don´t have more important things to like running their countries?
They shouldn't be joking and lying either. When Obama was asked about extraterrestrial life during a
2008 debate he responded that he was already too occupied with life on earth.
However we need to realize that disclosure of the ET phenomenon could solve some serious problems
we have on earth. That's the only thing that matters to me.
Mozart
9th December 2012, 22:43
http://news.sky.com/story/1022463/medvedev-makes-strange-off-air-comments
http://www.examiner.com/article/russian-prime-minister-claims-extraterrestrials-live-among-us
Excerpt:
(From the Examiner article)
On Friday, December 7, the current Russian Prime Minister and former President, Dmitry Medvedev, made some startling off-air comments to reporters while his microphone was still switched on. He was asked whether the President is given any secret files on extraterrestrials while in office.
In his responses, Medvedev not only confided that extraterrestrials are visiting the Earth, but that some are actually living among us. He went even further to say that the Hollywood comedy, Men in Black, depicting a secret government agency monitoring extraterrestrials on Earth, has a factual basis to it.
While the comments appear to be playful responses to a reporter’s off-beat question, they raise questions over exactly how much truth was being revealed by Medvedev. Given that Medvedev’s responses were said off-air, without him realizing that his microphone was still recording, they at face value give credence to claims that extraterrestrials are not only visiting our world, but are even living among us.
This is the biggest, most-prominent "soft disclosure" yet. Let's hope for MORE DISCLOSURES! Visualize it.
See it in your mind's third eye MSM headlines around the world making startling announcements of the existence of the ETs, UFOs, etc.
~Mozart
KiwiElf
9th December 2012, 22:48
I agree Mozart: the "frog is being slowly boiled..." (in a positive way After all, we don't all wake up at the same time (and I'm still waking up...;))
Flash
9th December 2012, 22:48
already posted and discussed here Mozart
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52871-Medvedev-unexpectedly-reveals-secret-presence-of-ET-bases-in-Russia
Mozart
9th December 2012, 22:57
already posted and discussed here Mozart
Hi Flash!
Uh, oh... I did a "search" for any post and it came up with nothing, so I went ahead with it, sheesh.
A Mod can merge the two threads with the older thread, if a mod wants, or to delete this whole, redundant thread, then.
WeAreONEbigFamily
9th December 2012, 23:09
Why on earth would anyone put his trust in the Russian prime Minister , their all masons anyway.
Better pay attention to what Bill Cooper tells us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3nwYwS3qs&list=PL8CAEE8DB27B735D5&index=14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUTKHWdECE8&list=PLsMKnscQ_IXU-x1jXd9SIyCGkcmbpTMrr&index=110
And what these Russian guy's concerns
they all serve the papacy , its really not too hard to understand it all as soon as you can see the bigger picture and some evidence.
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pope+Benedict+XVI+Meets+Russian+President+liy0qNGtqEYl.jpg
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-42-27422882.jpg?size=67&uid=7eb4b56f-f534-47b1-af89-4e0363e84b2e
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wNViw32R5WE/TTR6IHCEtdI/AAAAAAAAAIM/WCEBweib2jo/s1600/King+Juan+Carlos+and+President+Dmitry+Medvedev.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pope+Benedict+XVI+Meets+Russian+President+rhlT-W8nINom.jpg
http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ap_iran_ahmadinejad_kazakhstan_nazarbayev_russia_medvedev_15jun11_eng_480.jpg?w=497
http://www.30giorni.it/upload/articoli_immagini_interne/1178097061176.jpg
Limor Wolf
10th December 2012, 06:13
It is certainly possible to say on this:
"There is no smoke without fire"
"Every laugh has a grain of truth"
Every word by the 'leaders' is very organised and planned and I agree with some of the comments here, there are no big surprises, simply a sign of the times.
Airwooz
10th December 2012, 07:09
At least leaders in my country can't make a Sci-fi joke...
apokalypse
10th December 2012, 07:18
i'm very interesting to know from Russia culture did they find him joking? i thought he very serious....
the sheep need to pull their head out of the sand but ask questions and think about considering et/aliens. posted this article on mainsteam forums and i find them like an robot who have been programmed to think-obey-believe within the system that have been created on planet earth. just frustrated me...Australian so robot didn't go outside of their system or program. anything that not on eistine or science law of physics is ludacris.
Nickolai
10th December 2012, 11:08
Why on earth would anyone put his trust in the Russian prime Minister , their all masons anyway.
Better pay attention to what Bill Cooper tells us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3nwYwS3qs&list=PL8CAEE8DB27B735D5&index=14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUTKHWdECE8&list=PLsMKnscQ_IXU-x1jXd9SIyCGkcmbpTMrr&index=110
And what these Russian guy's concerns
they all serve the papacy , its really not too hard to understand it all as soon as you can see the bigger picture and some evidence.
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pope+Benedict+XVI+Meets+Russian+President+liy0qNGtqEYl.jpg
http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-42-27422882.jpg?size=67&uid=7eb4b56f-f534-47b1-af89-4e0363e84b2e
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wNViw32R5WE/TTR6IHCEtdI/AAAAAAAAAIM/WCEBweib2jo/s1600/King+Juan+Carlos+and+President+Dmitry+Medvedev.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Pope+Benedict+XVI+Meets+Russian+President+rhlT-W8nINom.jpg
http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/ap_iran_ahmadinejad_kazakhstan_nazarbayev_russia_medvedev_15jun11_eng_480.jpg?w=497
http://www.30giorni.it/upload/articoli_immagini_interne/1178097061176.jpg
WeAreONEbigFamily,
The fact that Medvedev brought his wife to Vatican and shook hands with Papa proves nothing to me.
Papa is the leader of the state of Vatican and that could be just an official visit though if you proved me that Medvedev is mason I would not be surprised. But you didn't convince me.
Still I know that Yeltsin was honored by Maltese order. That's the fact and the info was published in Russian papres. Same about Gorbatchev.
Nickolai
Fred Steeves
10th December 2012, 11:47
Although, knowing very well the times we are in, and the way things work, it makes sense for various reasons that they will let 'mistakes' like this 'slip' every now and then, just to warm the watter slightly more, as in the boiling frog syndrom, they need to bring the publics opinion to a certain place if they want to issue a 'war against off worlders' for example, It will be absolutely difficult to be done if nothing as small as a suspicion exists on the mind of the average Joe. a 'slip' here and there will help with the water temprature so the frogs stay inside. Medavdev, Putin, Obama etc. are puppets to their masters, they follow the direction they need to follow, those types of 'secrets' where kept in full from the public for so many years and now, they want, or have no choice but throw a bone here and there, and as usual, use the situation to their own benefit.
Absolutely Limor, and this is not even touching on how much ET type stuff Hollywood movies and t.v. shows are pumping out. Of course they are releasing a lot of truths by doing such, but deceptions are always best served wrapped in profound truths. Personally speaking anyway, I see "disclosure" the same as I see fire. Fire can be used for warmth, or it can be used to burn your house down. Now it doesn't strike me as needing the IQ of a rocket scientist, to first look at who is doing the disclosing, and then figure out what their intentions behind it may be.
To nurture humanity into a golden age, rubbing elbows with our ET big brothers and sisters? :unsure:
I think not so much...
christian
10th December 2012, 18:31
I just found something on Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianna_Alexandrowna_Maximowskaja) about Marianna Maksimovskaya who interviewed Medvedev.
Like other journalists critical of the Kremlin she often changed the stations she was working for, always after a station was closed by the authorities. Her show on Ren-TV, one of the few stations in Russia that is not under direct control of the state is one of the last political shows on free TV that is not characterized by an unquestioning attitude towards the government.
So she is not particularly a comedian. Here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lenta.ru%2Flib%2F14161462%2F) and here (http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/3595/) is more info about her indicating that she really got herself into problems with the authorities because of her work when she touches upon dodgy issues. I don't know what that particularly signifies in regard to the recent interview, but I find it's something to ponder.
joamarks
10th December 2012, 19:57
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev may have some secret files on aliens. Medvedev talked about extraterrestrials living on earth during a television interview on Friday.
Medvedev said that he has two folders containing secret files about aliens that are currently walking among us.
The Prime Minister said that he didn't want to give specifics about the size of the alien population because he didn't want to create a panic.
According to Whig.com, Russian television stations did not air the footage of Medvedev talking about aliens on earth but the footage did leak on the internet.
According to the Telegraph, Medvedev said: "Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special 'top secret' folder.
This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet. Along with this, you are given a report of the absolutely secret special service that exercises control over aliens on the territory of our country ... More detailed information on this topic you can get from a well-known movie called 'Men In Black' ...
I will not tell you how many of them are among us because it may cause panic." The Russian Prime Minister was probably making a joking about the secret files on aliens but it has created a bit of a stir among conspiracy theorists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZSNSAiCBw4
ThePythonicCow
10th December 2012, 20:52
So she is not particularly a comedian. Here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lenta.ru%2Flib%2F14161462%2F) and here (http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/3595/) is more info about her indicating that she really got herself into problems with the authorities because of her work when she touches upon dodgy issues. I don't know what that particularly signifies in regard to the recent interview, but I find it's something to ponder.
Interesting ... so is this like retired US President George W Bush seeking an interview with Bill Ryan or Kerry Cassidy ?
Cidersomerset
10th December 2012, 20:52
What is wierd about this story is that after the revelation of Alien bases in the Russia the Sky commentator casually switches to the 'More important story of the Royal family' ! .....
I cannot find any other media outlet or newspaper picking up on the fact The Russian PM dislosed an Alien presence on earth !! Is this a hoax or media black out ?? ..LOL...
Finefeather
10th December 2012, 21:17
Invasion ?
The British invaded almost every continent on our planet and today we have large cities all over the world and people are more intelligent and more knowledgeable than ever before, despite the perception of been captured and conquered.
DreamsInDigital
10th December 2012, 21:26
Cider,
It's not a hoax, it's a media black out.
OP,
Not invasion, Aliens have been here all along. They can't invade, when they have been here since the beginning ;)
Aurvandil
10th December 2012, 21:27
Yesterday Julia Gilliard, today Medvedev - what is this?
This combination made me wonder too :p If Julia Gilliard would be right (but it was a joke ;)) it doesn't make
a difference anymore what Medvedev said one day later .... :(
If they are joking, I can only wonder if they don´t have more important things to like running their countries?
They shouldn't be joking and lying either. When Obama was asked about extraterrestrial life during a
2008 debate he responded that he was already too occupied with life on earth.
However we need to realize that disclosure of the ET phenomenon could solve some serious problems
we have on earth. That's the only thing that matters to me.
Yes, I totally agree with you! :happy: Your comments was actually what I wanted to say but couldn´t get it written down in a proper way... :o
ThePythonicCow
10th December 2012, 21:33
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev may have some secret files on aliens. Medvedev talked about extraterrestrials living on earth during a television interview on Friday.
Medvedev said that he has two folders containing secret files about aliens that are currently walking among us.
I merged your thread into the existing thread discussing this.
christian
10th December 2012, 22:53
I cannot find any other media outlet or newspaper picking up on the fact The Russian PM dislosed an Alien presence on earth !! Is this a hoax or media black out ?? ..LOL...
It's in many alternative outlets of course. When it comes to mainstream coverage in the German media I only find it mentioned in the Welt (http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article111936111/Medwedjews-Mikrofon-Patzer-eine-PR-Aktion.html). That's part of the Springer group, but you gotta give them credit for regularly being one of the very few if not the only to somewhat portray the other side of stories or in general information that other outlets refuse to report on.
In that article they say this clip came from Russia Today. Then via federal stations Reuters got a hold of it and now all people at those stations blame each other for this "accident". The article says it's important to notice that the camera work is just as professional as if everybody involved would think that this was a regular interview and that Russian media speculates that this might be a deliberate move to boost Medvedev's popularity on the internet.
Has it happened to you that people in your environment turn to you after you talked for years about the EU takeover or the financial collapse for instance and all the rest? Like "all you said is coming true". Maybe there is something in the works and Medvedev wants to produce that effect, but it's delicate, so coming out in this mysterious manner could really have been orchestrated.
By the way, they disabled the comment function on that article in the Welt after 5 comments. One was deleted by now and the other 4 didn't mention the alien-issue. I don't know about that fifth comment first-hand, just read it on the CROPfm forum (http://cropfm.bboard.de/board/ftopic-44248441nx23935-2766.html#20215).
So she is not particularly a comedian. Here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lenta.ru%2Flib%2F14161462%2F) and here (http://news.rin.ru/eng/news/3595/) is more info about her indicating that she really got herself into problems with the authorities because of her work when she touches upon dodgy issues. I don't know what that particularly signifies in regard to the recent interview, but I find it's something to ponder.
Interesting ... so is this like retired US President George W Bush seeking an interview with Bill Ryan or Kerry Cassidy ?
She was going after Medvedev, I'd think. Or was she being used or blackmailed? Like "let her be your partner for this 'disclosure', helps a lot with plausible deniability". All just possibility-thinking here. Such a strange story.
joamarks
11th December 2012, 20:20
humor and Russian politics in public? isn't that as rare as a pink rhino in trousers?
and most of all, nothing is for nothing; even a bad Russian joke has a purpose.
the question is which one :cool:
Jean-Luc
11th December 2012, 20:32
I cannot find any other media outlet or newspaper picking up on the fact The Russian PM dislosed an Alien presence on earth !! Is this a hoax or media black out ?? ..LOL...
I got the same feeling from French speaking European media.
AFP (Agence France Presse) mentionmed the event with Medvedev at apparently the same TV show but avoided the "Alien" controversy focusing on some other unrelated details.
http://www.lalibre.be/societe/insolite/article/783230/le-micro-de-medvedev-reste-ouvert.html
Interesting.
mojo
11th December 2012, 20:49
The last program by Jon Kelly in the Ranch thread speaks about this issue and the way Dimitry's statement was treated like a joke in the MSM.
ThePythonicCow
11th December 2012, 21:32
The last program by Jon Kelly in the Ranch thread speaks about this issue and the way Dimitry's statement was treated like a joke in the MSM.
That would be the video in this post, I presume (I didn't actually verify by listening): http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch--James-Gilliland-and-Trout-Lake-&p=596877&viewfull=1#post596877
Operator
11th December 2012, 22:21
humor and Russian politics in public? isn't that as rare as a pink rhino in trousers?
I remember Jeltsin pinching a lady in the bums ... maybe not everybody's kind of humor but
it was very 'public' to say the least.
Unicorn
21st December 2012, 21:01
Now it seems that the "Men in black documentary" that Medvedev was talking about is this one (sorry if already posted):
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Operator
3rd January 2013, 12:59
Bumping this thread ... maybe it's because of the holidays season but I think a lot of people may have missed
the previous post by Unicorn (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52871-Medvedev-unexpectedly-reveals-secret-presence-of-ET-bases-in-Russia&p=603669&viewfull=1#post603669) (I was away myself for 14 days). I found this documentary via another way and I
was searching Avalon to see if it was already posted.
If this is indeed what Medvedev was aiming at then his testimony is a very important one.
I think the combined materials are good 'ammunition' to raise critical questions to other other government
leaders too. Let them debunk it again and again. Make them tired of lying about this stuff.
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