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WeAreONEbigFamily
9th December 2012, 18:32
Cardinal Francis Spellman The Archbischop of NY 1939-1967
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Francis Joseph Cardinal Spellman, 1889 – 1967
Archbishop of New York City, 1939-1967
Cardinal of New York City, 1946-1967; Surnamed “Cardinal War”
Notorious Sodomite and Pedophile King of New York City
Trained by the Jesuit Order at Fordham University in New York City
Further trained at the Order’s American College in Rome
Head of the American Branches of: The Knights of Columbus
The Sovereign Military Order of Malta
Islamic Shriner Scottish Rite Freemasonry and
33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasonry
The Yale University-Based Order of Skull and Bones
“Military Vicar” of the United States Armed Forces
Coordinator of Pope Pius XII’s Nazi “Vatican Ratlines” into America
Mastermind behind the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy

Kenndey on the left , Nixon on The Right
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President John F. Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy, 1962 ##2*
Here we have the President leaving the Jesuit Order’s St. Francis Xavier
Church at Hyannis after attending Mass. The Chief Executive was spending the
weekend at the family summer home in nearby Hyannis Port. On the far right
is Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman who would be chosen to be the
coordinator of the Secret Service’s Assassination Team while it carried out its
“Executive Action” in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The President, a Knight of
Columbus and son of one of Francis Cardinal Spellman’s most powerful
Knights of Malta—Joseph P. Kennedy—was educated at Harvard University,
with its strong Jesuit presence, while Jackie gave birth to JFK, Jr., at
Georgetown University Hospital. Aided by the Mafia, the Order had installed
its first Irish Roman Catholic into the high office of the American Presidency.
But John F. Kennedy turned on the Temporal Power of Rome’s Papal Caesar by
refusing to enforce the Pope’s claim to rule all the governments of the world.
Kennedy sought to break the power of the Black Pope’s continuation of the
Order’s Nazi SS—the Central Intelligence Agency; attacked the Order’s
Federal Reserve Bank by printing “United States Notes” in lieu of “Federal
Reserve Notes;” sought to end Cardinal Spellman’s War in Vietnam; sought to
return Cuba to the exiled Cuban people of Miami via a full fledged military
invasion of the island on December 1, 1963; and attempted to end Rome’s Cold
War by which the Order was creating fascism in the US. For these reasons and
more, the Jesuit Order coldly carried out its regicidal “crime of the century.”
Boston Record American, Monday, July 16, 1962, p. 26.


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Knight of Malta (SMOM), Alexander M. Haig, Jr., 1981
According to the 1989 Arts and Entertainment video, The Men Who Killed
Kennedy: The Coverup, Lt. Colonel Alexander M. Haig (1963) contributed to the
cover-up—the Great Jesuit Cover-up—of the Kennedy Assassination. For his
obedience he was later promoted to the rank of General and subsequently
named as the Commander of NATO in Europe. As a result of his continued
obedience to the Black Pope, the Papal Caesar and the Archbishop of New York,
Haig was appointed to the high office of Secretary of State under honorary
Shriner and Knight of Malta President Ronald Reagan in 1981. With the
endorsement of former Kentucky Senator John Sherman Cooper who had been
a member of the Jesuit-educated, high-level Freemason and President Lyndon
Johnson’s Warren Commission overseen by 33rd Degree Freemason Chief
Justice Earl Warren, we see Council on Foreign Relations member and Knight
of Malta Alexander Haig answering questions during his confirmation hearings.
To his right sits SMOM/CFR member Joseph A. Califano, Jr.; to his left sits his
wife, Dame of Malta Pat Haig; and immediately behind him sits his younger
brother in clerical collar, Knight of Malta Francis R. Haig, S.J.—the Jesuit
behind the Watergate Scandal and the removal of President Richard M. Nixon!
Caveat: Realism, Reagan, and Foreign Policy, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., (New York: Macmillan Publishing
Company, 1984).

Network of Assassins in 1963
Francis Cardinal Spellman’s American Knights of Malta
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Francis Cardinal Spellman’s Network of Assassins, 1963

1. Francis Cardinal Spellman.
Archbischop of NY , K of Columbus,
Military Vicar "U.S. Armed Forces,
Advisor American Branch Knights of Malta

2. Jean Baptiste Janssen
Superior General of the Society of Jesus
"THE BLACK POPE"

3. Thomas K. Gorman
Roman Catholic Bischop of Dallas
Knight of Malta

4. Clare Boothe Luce
CIA: Ambassador to Italy
Dame of Malta

5. John F Kennedy
Knight of Columbus; Son of Ambassador
OSS/CIA Officer Joseph P. Kennedy
Spellman's key Knight of Malta

6. Henry R. Luce
Jesuit Co-adjutor; Officer , CIA
Media Mogul, Time, Life ,
Suppressed the Zapruder Film,
Skull & Bones; CFR member,
Knight of Malta

7. John A. McCone
Past Atomic Energy Commissioner
Director , CIA
Knight of Malta

8. James Jesus Angleton
Counter Intelligence, CIA
Knight of Malta

9. J. Peter Grace Jr.
CIA; InternationalIndustrialist
American head Knights of Malta

10. William J. Casey
Officer, Future Director , CIA
Knight of Malta

11. Clav L. Shaw
International Industrialist
Contract Agent, CIA
Knight of Malta

12.William F. Buckley
Jesuit Co-adjutor: Officer, CIA
Host, Firing Line
Owner, National Review
Skull & Bones; CFR Member
Knight of Malta

13. Cartha D. DeLoach
Assistant Director , FBI
Aids Cover-up of Warren Commission
Knight of Malta

14. Presidential Candidates
Kennedy and Nixon with Spellman
Knight of Columbus Alfred E. Smith
Memorial Dinner, Waldorf-Astoria Hotel
New York City, 1960

15. Lee A. Iacocca
Director Dearborn Division
Ford Motor Company
Knight of Malta

16. The Great Jesuit Seal
Designed by Ignatius Loyola
666 , Arithmetic Sum of 36 points
Potential "Mark of the Beast"

17. Eight-Pointed Maltese Cross
Worn by Medieval Knights Hospitallers
during the papal crusades
National Symbol, Souvereign Nation State
of the Military Order of Malta
Headquarters: Rome , Italy

The purpose of the expose' of the Twentieth Century is to prove the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, ordered by Jesuit Superior General Jean-Baptiste Janssens and executed by Pope Paul VI, was carried out by "the American Pope," Francis Cardinal Spellman. Spellman, being the Archbishop of New York, was "the American Military Vicar" and therefore used his most obedient soldiers—certain Knights of Malta, 33rd Degree Shriner Freemasons,Knights of Columbus and Mafia Dons—in carrying out his orders from Rome.The single reason for the President's assassination was his interference with the purpose of the Jesuits' Fourteenth Amendment American Empire created in
1868. That purpose was to restore and maintain the worldwide Temporal
(political) Power of that Jesuit Creation of 1870—the "infallible" Pope. In resisting
the Pope's Temporal Power, he threatened the monopoly of the Jesuits' Federal
Reserve Bank by injecting into the economy nearly 4.3 billion dollars in interest-free
United States Notes, only to be recalled the day after his burial. Marina Oswald
clearly understood the complicity of the Fed behind JFK's assassination!
The President also attempted to break the foremost international intelligence
arm of the Vatican's Jesuits—the evil Central Intelligence Agency—"into a
thousand pieces." In 1963 the CIA was manned by many of Hitler's old warriors—
the Jesuit-controlled Nazi SS—turned "cold warriors.
Lastly, President Kennedy began to end the Vatican's hoax known as "the
Cold War," the American CIA and Russian KGB having secretly worked together
since World War II. He also began to end that Jesuit Inquisition in Vietnam, as its
future highpoint would be "Operation Phoenix," the CIA mass-murder of 60,000
Vietnamese, "in cold blood" according to its Opus Dei Director, William E. Colby.
The President interfering with Rome's Holy Office of the Inquisition could not
be tolerated! Millions of "infidel" Buddhists were to be exterminated, the Pope's
International Drug Trade would explode, American patriotism and liberty would
further be destroyed and Vietnam would be reunited under Ho Chi Minh—another
communist military dictator loyal to the Pope—like Stalin, like Chairman Mao, like
Castro, like George H. W. Bush and son. Waged under the guise of opposing the
communist empire's "domino effect," Cardinal Spellman championed America's
most disastrous conflict known as "Spelly's War" overseen by Spelly's General,
the Roman Catholic and CFR member, William C. Westmoreland. (Remember,
according to Col. L. Fletcher Prouty in his JFK, the forced movement of over
660,000 Roman Catholics on U.S. Navy transport vessels from North Vietnam into
South Vietnam was "one of the root causes of the Vietnam War." The arch-Catholic
Secretary of the Navy responsible for implementing that Jesuit-agitation was the
Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus, Francis P. Matthews. Knight
Matthew's Master was America's "Military Vicar," Francis Cardinal Spellman.
Later, Spellman made several visits to the war-front calling the American troops "the
soldiers of Christ," fighting the Pope's Crusade against "godless Jew Communism!")
The outcome was 58,000 dead, 130,000 post-war suicides and a 500 billion-dollar
debt to the Jesuits' Federal Reserve Bank. All these acts of President Kennedy
were proper assertions of national sovereignty and therefore infringed on the Pope's
Temporal Power. As the "infallible" Vicar of Christ and thus, "the Theocratic
Universal Monarch of the World," the Pope, through the religious, political and
financial power of the Jesuit Order, fully intended, then and now, to ultimately rule
all nations through his loyal kings and dictators from Solomon's rebuilt Temple in
Jerusalem.

Vatican Assassins—Chart; Satan’s Roman World System, 1963 ##1-2
The World System in 1963
Satan
“. . . the god of this world . . .” II Corinthians 4:4
Jean-Baptiste Janssens
Jesuit General
Giovanni Battista Montini
“Infallible” Masonic Pope Paul VI
Francis “Cardinal” Spellman
Archbishop of New York; Knight of Columbus
American “U.S. Military Vicar;” Knight of Malta
J. Peter Grace, Jr., CFR
Head, American Branch
of the Knights of Malta
Head, W. R. Grace & Co.
Sponsored “Operation Paperclip”
Military Industrial Complex
John A. McCone
Knight of Malta
Military Industrial Complex
Director, Central Intelligence Agency


Reinhard Gehlen
Knight of Malta
General, Nazi Intelligence
Betrays German Army
General, U.S. Army
Builds CIA
Trains Israel’s
MOSSAD
James Jesus Angleton
Knight of Malta
OSS Officer in Rome
NKVD/KGB Agent
Chief, Counterintelligence, CIA
Manned “Vatican Desk,” CIA
Manned “Israeli Desk,” CIA
Blamed Castro & Oswald
Kim Philby
Knight of Malta
British SIS
Member of Jesuit Maly’s
“Cambridge Spy Ring”
CIA/KGB
Philby/Oswald
False Defectors

William F. Buckley, Jr.
Knight of Malta
CFR/CIA Officer
“Skull & Bones” Member
Editor, National Review
Blamed Castro
Blamed Oswald
Henry R. Luce
Knight of Malta
CFR/CIA Officer
“Skull & Bones” Member
Editor, Time/Life
Blamed Castro
Blamed Oswald

Lee Harvey Oswald
ONI, CIA, FBI
False Defector to Russia
KGB/CIA Connection
“I’m Just a Patsy”
Murdered by Mafioso/
FBI agent Jack Ruby,
imprisoned, murdered;
Warren Commission
Gerald R. Ford,
33rd Degree Freemason;
Knight of Malta
Cartha D. DeLoach, FBI
Knight of Malta;
DeLoach aids Ford in
The Great Jesuit
Cover-up
1963 to the Present
E. Howard Hunt

William F. Buckley, Jr. Henry R. Luce

E. Howard Hunt
CIA Assassin
Proven to be in Dallas, Texas
on November 22, 1963
in Miami’s Federal District Court in
Hunt v. Liberty Lobby, 1985
Documented in Mark Lane’s
Plausible Denial, 1991

Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
Knight of Columbus
“Rebel” to the Pope, in attempting to destroy the Jesuit General’s CIA and end
“Spelly’s War” in Vietnam, and therefore was a “notorious tyrant”
whose assassination was lawful, according to the Jesuit Francisco Suarez
in his Defensio Fidei Catholicae.
Marina Oswald’s Uncle, KGB Colonel Vasili Khritinin; Aunt Lubov Axelnova;
CIA Agent Lee Harvey Oswald; Wife Marina Oswald, Minsk, USSR, 1962 ##1-3
This photo evidences the mutual collaboration between the Black Pope’s Soviet
KGB and American CIA in preparing Oswald to be the bloody sacrificial lamb.
Life, “Oswald’s Full Russian Diary,” (Chicago: Time Inc., July 10, 1964) p. 26.

Vatican Assassins—Spellman
The Black Pope
Jesuit Superior General Jean-Baptiste Janssens, 1959 ##1-4
This photo, taken from The Saturday Evening Post, January 17, 1959, is of
“The Black Pope,” who, in 1963, reigned over his Jesuit Order—the world’s most
powerful Secret Society—and gave the command to assassinate
Knight of Columbus President John F. Kennedy.
The Twenty-Seventh Superior General of
The Society of Jesus
from 1946 to 1964;
THE POWER
having ruled over Popes
Pius XII (Hitler’s Pope),
John XXIII (Khrushchev’s Pope), and
Paul VI (Johnson’s Pope), including their hierarchies;
in command of the Masters of international Secret Societies including:
The Sovereign Military Order of Malta,
33rd Degree Scottish-Rite and Islamic Shriner Freemasonry,
The Masonic Order of the Illuminati, Masonic Skull and Bones
The Jesuit-led Knights of Columbus, The Masonic Pilgrims
The Masonic Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Masonic B’nai B’rith,
The Club of Rome, The Masonic American Nation of Islam
and its private army called “The Fruit of Islam,”
The Masonic Sicilian Mafia Commission, and Jesuit-led Opus Dei
along with a host of lesser Brotherhoods.

The Murderers and Traitors in the Assassination
and Cover-up of President John F. Kennedy ##1-5
This photo, taken from Swanberg’s Luce and His Empire, 1972, displays
five of the most important and powerful assassins. On center stage at
the Waldorf ballroom during Time’s fortieth anniversary party in 1963,
only months before “the crime of the century,” we see from left to right:
Henry R. Luce—Knight of Malta; Member, Council on Foreign Relations; Editor,
Time/Life, whose office was in Rockefeller Center across the street from Cardinal
Spellman’s St. Patrick's Cathedral; purchased the famous “Zapruder Film” taken by a
Jewish contract agent for the CIA and 32nd degree Freemason, Abraham Zapruder,
for 150,000 Federal Reserve Notes two days after the assassination, and published
the forgery of Oswald holding a rifle on the cover of Life magazine (Feb.21, 1964).
Dean Rusk—President Kennedy’s Secretary of State and “Brutus” to his “Caesar;”
Member, Council on Foreign Relations; Advisor, National Security Council.
J. Peter Grace, Jr.—(incorrectly identified by Swanberg as Secretary of Treasury C.
Douglas Dillon) Head, American Branch of the Knights of Malta; Member, Council
on Foreign Relations; in charge of at least ten Knights of Malta involved in the
assassination and cover-up including Frank Shakespeare of CBS (using CFR
member Walter Cronkite), Francis X. Stankard of the CFR’s Chase Manhattan
Bank (using another brother CFR member pro-Nazi John J. McCloy on the Warren
Commission), Lee Iacocca of Ford Motor Company (using Carl Renas, head of
security for the Dearborn Division to drive the bullet-ridden Presidential limousine
from Washington, D.C. to a Ford dealership in Cincinnati for the purpose of
removing all evidence of multiple gunshot primary strikes) and John A. McCone,
Director of the Central Intelligence Agency who personally delivered National
Security Memorandum 273 for President Johnson’s signature, thereby reversing
President Kennedy’s decision to de-escalate “Spelly’s War” in Vietnam.

Clare Boothe Luce—Dame of Malta; Member, Council on Foreign Relations;
former ambassador to Italy under President Eisenhower (Allied Commander who
led Rome’s Crusade in Europe during the Jesuits’ Second Thirty Years’ War (1914-
1945), which included the betrayal and murder of the heroes American General
Patton and the Russian General Vlasov, as both sought to overthrow the Jesuits’
Grand Inquisitor, Josef Stalin); aided Thomas “Tip” O’Neill, Papal Knight and
Speaker of the House of Representatives, along with G. Robert Blakey in hindering
the Assassinations Committee of 1976. Blakey, for a job well done, went on to be
employed as a law professor at Rome’s Notre Dame University in Indiana. The
University President who employed Blakey was another darling of the Jesuits, CFR
member and Civil Rights agitator who further centralized power in Washington, D.C.
with his 1964 Civil Rights Act, priest Theodore M. Hesburgh, C.S.C.; formerly the
Director of Chase Manhattan Bank and Chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation.
Francis Cardinal Spellman—Jesuit-trained at Fordham University in New York
and the American College in Rome; Archbishop of Rome’s wealthiest and most
powerful Diocese; “Military Vicar” of the American Empire controlling the Knights
of Malta, Shriner Freemasonry, the Knights of Columbus and the Mafia’s
Commission; the acting King of the Pope’s Fourteenth Amendment “Holy Roman”
American Empire (ruling from his Palace in the city of “the Empire State,” along
with his Papal “Maltese Knights of the Roundtable”) overseen by the Professed
Jesuits (Jesuits under Extreme Oath of the Fourth Vow) at Fordham University
including now “Cardinal” Avery Dulles, the nephew of Allen Dulles, past
Secretary, Vice President, and President of the Cardinal’s Council on Foreign
Relations (1933-1950), past CFR/CIA Director until fired by President Kennedy
and member of the deceptive Warren Commission. Again, the Jesuit’s notorious
uncle was none other than The Gentleman Spy, Rome’s prostitute Protestant
Presbyterian and Shriner Freemason, Allen Dulles. Spellman therefore controlled
the Council on Foreign Relations, the FBI, the CIA, Military Intelligence (including
the Office of Naval Intelligence–ONI–) and the Secret Service; the Power and
Mastermind behind the assassination of President Kennedy and subsequent Coverup,
continued by Cardinals Cooke and O’Connor. The present Archbishop,
Cardinal Egan, will continue the Great Jesuit Cover-up, as, evidenced by his
Oath as a Cardinal, his first and foremost loyalty is not to the People of the
Constitutional Republic of these United States, but to his master in the Vatican,
his “King of kings and Lord of lords,” Jesuit General Kolvenbach’s “infallible”
god who sits in St. Peter’s Chair, Pope John Paul II! For he holds the Devil’s
Papal Office of the Jew-hating and blasphemous Seventh Roman Caesar who
has not yet come and, when indwelt by Satan upon rising from the dead, will be
the Eighth Roman Caesar with a new name—the beast (Revelation 17:10, 11).
Now please rent the movie JFK, Director’s Cut
and watch the pieces as they fall together!

Vatican Assassins—Remedy
Leah Rabin and Pope John Paul II, 1995 ##1-6
This photo, taken from the November 13th, 2000 edition of Pittsburgh’s Tribune
Review, depicts the late Leah Rabin in 1995, following her “private audience” at
the Vatican, with the greatest accomplice to her husband’s cold-blooded
murder, the “Infallible” Pope John Paul II. The Mossad, an arm of the Jesuit
General’s International Intelligence Community, carried out the assassination,
as the disobedient Freemason, Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin, opposed Rome’s
policy for Labor Zionist Israel. For the Jesuits fully intend to make the Old City
of Jerusalem the international capital city of their one world government thus
robbing Israel of her capital right. Yes, “the arm of the Church is long.”
In ending, Vatican Assassins: “Wounded In The House Of My Friends”,
calls for national repentance to all Americans, a return to the Protestant Bible and
maxims of the true faith in the Christ of the English Reformation and the expulsion
of the Jesuit Order from American Soil.
We American Protestants and Baptists, having inherited the greatest
Protestant form of government in the history of the world—our blessed
Presbyterian Constitution and Baptist Bill of Rights—will be used no more to
enthrone fascist-communist military dictators around the world in restoring and
maintaining the Temporal Power of the Jesuits’ “infallible” Papal Caesar.
If we, the American people, do not bring the real assassins of President
Kennedy and his son to justice, if we do not take back our sovereign federal powers
usurped by the Jesuit General on behalf of the “infallible” Pope, if we do not
dissolve the Council on Foreign Relations through which the Jesuit General rules
New York, Washington, D.C., the American Empire and thus the whole World
(while deceptively employing certain notorious Masonic Jews and Gentiles as front
men), if we do not expel the Army of the Pope—those odious Sons of Loyola—
then our nation is truly lost. For then the Jesuits will use the very peoples our
government oppressed (having armed and financed merciless tyrants in submitting
them to the “infallible” Pope’s Temporal Power), to invade our land, destroy our
people and we will deserve it! The peoples we speak of are the Russians who
suffered under Stalin; the Romanians who suffered under Nicolae Ceaucescu; the
Bulgarians who suffered under Todor Zhivkov; the Hungarians who suffered under
Janos Kadar; the Japanese who suffered under Tojo; the Chinese who suffered
under Mao Zedong; the Vietnamese who suffered under Ngo Dinh Diem, the
Cambodians who suffered under Pol Pot; the Germans who suffered under Hitler
and then Stalin; the East Germans who suffered under Erich Honecker; the Spanish
who suffered under Francisco Franco; the Italians who suffered under Benito
Mussolini; the Yugoslavians—particularly the Serbs—who suffered under Josef
Tito (and under American bombers); the Argentineans who suffered under Juan
Peron; the Portuguese who suffered under Antonio Salazar; the Mexicans who
suffered under Miguel De la Madrid; the Chileans who suffered under Augusto
Pinochet; the Haitians who suffered under Salesian priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide; the
Panamanians who suffered under Manuel Noriega; the South Africans who
suffered under Nelson Mandela; the Rhodesians (Zimbabweians) who now suffer
under Robert Mugabe; the Iraqis who suffered under Saddam Hussein; and the
Cubans who continue to suffer under the Jesuit Fidel Castro; just to name a few.
For the Jesuits, in restoring and maintaining the Temporal Power of the
“infallible” Papal Caesar, have shed the blood and spent the treasure of this once
great Protestant Nation for the entire Twentieth Century, now to continue into the
Twentieth-first Century. And in so doing, Rome, in which is The Sovereign State
of Vatican City, has fulfilled these words concerning herself:
“. . . the great whore that sitteth upon many waters . . .
arrayed in purple and scarlet . . . is that great city,
which reigneth over the kings of the earth . . .
and in her was found the blood of prophets,
and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.”
– Revelation 17:1, 4, 18; 18:24
We, the betrayed American people, can expect a created national crisis
resulting in widespread lawlessness, similar to the Negro/Black rioting of 1968
following the King Assassination. (Possibly the Masonic, Black Muslim leadership,
subject to the Archbishops of New York and Chicago, will ignite urban riots across
the nation with their private army, “the Fruit of Islam.” Their greatest target will be
the capital, Washington, D.C., eighty percent of its population being easily agitated
Blacks, the majority having been taught from their youth to hate all White people and
especially the Jews. (Remember, the Black “Reverend” CFR member Jesse
Jackson, the Jesuits’ professional agitator functioning as a Masonic “Yasser Arafat
of America” having never pastored a Church, years ago as a waiter used to spit on
the food of White people he would serve!) This violent city, which has insanely
banned all handguns, holds the “honor” of being “the murder capital of the world.”
More importantly, it hosts the Empire’s most powerful Jesuit presence—the military
fortress of Georgetown University. (We know Washington is their target as the
Jesuits’ major European and Asian revolutions began in capital cities, a few of them
being Paris (1789, 1848), Moscow (1917), Berlin (1933) and Peking (1912, 1949).)
The ensuing anarchy will result in a Jesuit-controlled, right-wing, fascist
military dictator (like George W. Bush, whose President father, George H. W.
Bush, is a Knight of Malta (according to the late William Cooper), a drug lord and
was a player in the Kennedy Assassination, and whose uncle, Prescott S. Bush, Jr.,
is a Knight of Malta and whose grandfather Prescott S. Bush, Sr., was one of the
original founding members of the Jesuit General’s Council on Foreign Relations.
President Bush is also endorsed by CBN’s darling of the Knights of Malta,
Evangelical Pat Robertson, who was a friend of the late J. Peter Grace, Jr., and
whose consultant and personal friend is another Knight of Malta and former Alabama
Senator, Jeremiah Denton, who wrote When Hell Was In Session). There will be
mass-roundups, torture and murder of American Jews in concentration camps (just
like in the Jesuits’ Nazi Germany). (Codenamed “Rex 84,” the camps were
established by Ronald Reagan and his Director of the CIA, Knight of Malta,
William J. Casey.) There will be foreign war (like “Spelly’s War” in Southeast
Asia), invasion, occupation and persecution of the American Protestants and Baptists
by foreign armies under the command of Jesuit-controlled dictators (like the Grand
Inquisitor—Josef Stalin). The army presently being prepared to spearhead this
massive invasion of the American Empire is that of the Red Chinese in particular!
This will be the final blow, to individual liberty, national sovereignty and the
Protestant Reformation. It will be the greatest victory for the Jesuit General’s
Counter-Reformation, restoring the Pope’s “Holy Roman Empire”—founded on a
reunited and rebuilt Germany—and returning the world to the Dark Ages. For then
it shall come to pass, with Satan’s last attempt to destroy the Lord Jesus Christ’s
beloved racially Jewish People, having used Rothschild’s Masonic Zionists—
controlled by Rome’s Mossad—to resettle them in Israel for the purpose of
rebuilding Solomon’s Temple, that the Jesuit General’s “infallible” Papal Caesar,
“. . . which had the wound by a sword, and did live . . . ,”
– Revelation 13:14
shall become
“. . . that man of sin . . .”
– II Thessalonians 2:
who, possessed by the Devil himself, will be called
“. . . the beast . . .”
– Revelation 13:4

The beast will rule all nations from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem for
“. . . forty and two months . . .”
– Revelation 11:2; 13:5
as,
“. . . the abomination of desolation . . .[and] . . . the antichrist . . .”
– Daniel 9:27
– Matthew 24:15
– I John 2:18
“. . . he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god . . .”
– Daniel 11:36
“. . . so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God . . .”
– II Thessalonians 2:4
“. . . he shall speak great words against the most High . . .”
– Daniel 7:25
“. . . he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes . . .”
– Daniel 8:25
“. . . until Shiloh come . . .”
– Genesis 49:10
“. . . In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God . . .”
– II Thessalonians 1:8
“. . . out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword,
that with it he should smite the nations . . .”
– Revelation 19:15
“. . . the Lion of the tribe of Juda . . . shall . . . roar . . .”
– Revelation 5:5
– Isaiah 42:13


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WeAreONEbigFamily
9th December 2012, 22:55
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Chester
10th December 2012, 01:09
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Mostly old news for one... to most of us here in Avalon.

Also, placing all the information you placed, without raising any specific points makes me wonder, what is your point?

What do you hope to accomplish by placing all this information.

Why did you leave out that Kennedy might also have been threatening "disclosure" of the "alien phenomena" along with all the other reasons that either "they" killed him or that Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well one might conclude the bullets were guided by divine (or some unearthly) intention?

What good is there in bringing all this old news up when the world is trying to move on?

What can you contribute that can assist with the problems humanity and Earth face today?

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 02:25
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Mostly old news for one... to most of us here in Avalon.

Also, placing all the information you placed, without raising any specific points makes me wonder, what is your point?

What do you hope to accomplish by placing all this information.

Why did you leave out that Kennedy might also have been threatening "disclosure" of the "alien phenomena" along with all the other reasons that either "they" killed him or that Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well one might conclude the bullets were guided by divine (or some unearthly) intention?

What good is there in bringing all this old news up when the world is trying to move on?

What can you contribute that can assist with the problems humanity and Earth face today?

Are you serious ?
Oswald was the scapegoat !!!! and he was killed !

I advice you to watch this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOL2Tkg2g6g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEOCTlZrw5U


Please let me know where you guys are in knowing all this stuff , like i said , you say you already know , but i don't believe you , convince me !

I think most think these video's are fiction , but they are facts.

KiwiElf
10th December 2012, 02:43
I believe it's called, "apathy" ;)

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 02:49
I believe it's called, "apathy" ;)

Yes your right , but aphaty can be very deadly , that's just the whole point here , burying everything under a veil of ëverything is going to be allright" NO it will not study history , they never change !

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 03:07
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Mostly old news for one... to most of us here in Avalon.

Also, placing all the information you placed, without raising any specific points makes me wonder, what is your point?

What do you hope to accomplish by placing all this information.

Why did you leave out that Kennedy might also have been threatening "disclosure" of the "alien phenomena" along with all the other reasons that either "they" killed him or that Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well one might conclude the bullets were guided by divine (or some unearthly) intention?

What good is there in bringing all this old news up when the world is trying to move on?

What can you contribute that can assist with the problems humanity and Earth face today?

You are triggering me , i was getting frustrated again....

Why i left out the Disclosur hoax ???

This is why !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUTKHWdECE8

modwiz
10th December 2012, 03:44
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Mostly old news for one... to most of us here in Avalon.

Also, placing all the information you placed, without raising any specific points makes me wonder, what is your point?

What do you hope to accomplish by placing all this information.


Apparently it is perceived, by some, that we have been looking in the wrong place/direction for the ills of the world. Considerable effort is being exerted to direct our attention elsewhere. As I said in another thread of the OP, these brief and very watchable videos are quite perfect for making a case. Our attention span and time constraints have been considered. This is very thoughtful.

eaglespirit
10th December 2012, 03:53
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Mostly old news for one... to most of us here in Avalon.

Also, placing all the information you placed, without raising any specific points makes me wonder, what is your point?

What do you hope to accomplish by placing all this information.

Why did you leave out that Kennedy might also have been threatening "disclosure" of the "alien phenomena" along with all the other reasons that either "they" killed him or that Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well one might conclude the bullets were guided by divine (or some unearthly) intention?

What good is there in bringing all this old news up when the world is trying to move on?

What can you contribute that can assist with the problems humanity and Earth face today?

You really are triggering me with this caringless , ignorant comment.
Sorry but most of you have absolutely no clou what so ever.

Why i left out the Disclosur hoax ???

This is why !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUTKHWdECE8

and there is more to the picture here , but i can't just publish it all

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52916-My-Intuition-told-me-i-had-to-make-a-thread-and-explain-some-things-to-this-community&p=595856&viewfull=1#post595856

Hervé
10th December 2012, 04:31
Try this guy's website for starter: http://www.williamdeanagarner.com/

... it's all out there...

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 05:34
retreat :))

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 06:23
What is the problem here if i may ask?

Mostly old news for one... to most of us here in Avalon.

Also, placing all the information you placed, without raising any specific points makes me wonder, what is your point?

What do you hope to accomplish by placing all this information.

Why did you leave out that Kennedy might also have been threatening "disclosure" of the "alien phenomena" along with all the other reasons that either "they" killed him or that Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well one might conclude the bullets were guided by divine (or some unearthly) intention?

What good is there in bringing all this old news up when the world is trying to move on?

What can you contribute that can assist with the problems humanity and Earth face today?



This is not old news , this is an UTTERLY IMPORTANT MESSAGE !

Rocky_Shorz
10th December 2012, 06:40
just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

sigma6
10th December 2012, 09:16
kids got spunk, I'll give him that (and for some reason I just can't stop grinning... lol)

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 16:27
just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Not only the federal reserve although that's probably one of the most important reasons , he also wanted to end the Vietnam war , break the CIA in a thousand pieces , and wanted to change course in the nuclear energy buisness AND he had said to Rome that as long as he was president no Pope would tell him what to do. Also Cardinal spellman was not allowed to join the meetings

¤=[Post Update]=¤


just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Yes i know that Bill has been on the subject , i will have to take a look at it , thx for the link.

I listened to one part and find Jordan Maxwell speaking on the subject as well , now here is my problem with that. Jordan Maxwell is in my eyes not the right person to lead it all (alltough he speaks a lot of truth ) , because he has tried to say that Jesus Christ was merely symbolic for the SUN not the SON , so this is where it get tricky if he succeeds to convince the people that Jesus Christ is not important then he will contribute to the agenda of the Jesuits to destroy christianity and lead people away from it , he also seems to support the New Age Movement (and there are more David Icke for example) which was created by a Jesuit named Pierre Teilhart de Chardin , this is the same Jesuit that brought MAO to power who starved 45 million people in China !

So when you people say these subject are all been treated already , then i would suggest to reopen them until its all very clear.

I´m not trying to convert anyone to true Christianity , i have alway´s said my religion is truth and if that leads me To Jesus Christ Yahuwshwa Messiach then so be it. Remember that the Society of Jesus was created to destroy True Christianity and there is a very good reason for that , otherwise they never would´ve done all this trouble the past 550 years and killed so many people.

I think the keys to deal with Satan are in The KJ Bible and we should carefully study all aspects of it.
God Bless

Cidersomerset
10th December 2012, 17:31
I posted this thread the other day....Bob Dobbs who is a spritely 90 year old gave
a radio interview to Ebben Ray and among other topics he told her some of what
he knew about the JFK assasination as it was near the anniversery.
He was in the intelligence community at the time and many years after....
Worth a listen....The picture of Cardinal Spellman reminded me of this.....

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Bob Dobbs Reveals the Individuals Behind the Kennedy Assassination

Bob explains who orchastrated it !!! Fascinating stuff and Bob was a deep insider
at the time.....Whether you believe him or not it is really interresting and plausible.
His source was a 'Red Cardinal' ??

The main conspiritors were Nelson Rockafella, J Edgar Hoover, Frank Hoffer,Curtis
Le May & some members of the secret council of 10. There were many reasons for
JFK's demise but the ordering of the murder of Marilyn Munroe by the Kennedy
bros seems to be the catalyst !! Initiated by J Edgar Hoover who knew they did it.

The inner commitees decided to initiate the cover up because of fear of civil strife
& possible civil war , This is where Bob became involved.Bob is 90 yrs old and is
one of the most articulate men in the media still and has a great memmory, better
than much younger people.

Also explains how China owns America and other political & media connections..
and we are aproaching Web 3.0 the matrix reality....The Royal family still owns
the commonwealth of Viginia, The royal family don't have reptilion blood but
Lamurian blood & lots more snippets !!


MP3 on link..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52590-Bob-Dobbs-Reveals-the-Individuals-Behind-the-Kennedy-Assassination

Chester
10th December 2012, 21:42
just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Not only the federal reserve although that's probably one of the most important reasons , he also wanted to end the Vietnam war , break the CIA in a thousand pieces , and wanted to change course in the nuclear energy buisness AND he had said to Rome that as long as he was president no Pope would tell him what to do. Also Cardinal spellman was not allowed to join the meetings

¤=[Post Update]=¤


just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Yes i know that Bill has been on the subject , i will have to take a look at it , thx for the link.

I listened to one part and find Jordan Maxwell speaking on the subject as well , now here is my problem with that. Jordan Maxwell is in my eyes not the right person to lead it all (alltough he speaks a lot of truth ) , because he has tried to say that Jesus Christ was merely symbolic for the SUN not the SON , so this is where it get tricky if he succeeds to convince the people that Jesus Christ is not important then he will contribute to the agenda of the Jesuits to destroy christianity and lead people away from it , he also seems to support the New Age Movement (and there are more David Icke for example) which was created by a Jesuit named Pierre Teilhart de Chardin , this is the same Jesuit that brought MAO to power who starved 45 million people in China !

So when you people say these subject are all been treated already , then i would suggest to reopen them until its all very clear.

I´m not trying to convert anyone to true Christianity , i have alway´s said my religion is truth and if that leads me To Jesus Christ Yahuwshwa Messiach then so be it. Remember that the Society of Jesus was created to destroy True Christianity and there is a very good reason for that , otherwise they never would´ve done all this trouble the past 550 years and killed so many people.

I think the keys to deal with Satan are in The KJ Bible and we should carefully study all aspects of it.
God Bless

Your enthusiasm is greatly appreciated, my fellow Avalonian. Lots of super cool folks who have provided lots of awesome posts have given you some attention, excellent feedback, some tips (take em or leave em) and appreciation that you have been accepted into membership here.

So let's take some things head on them ... It is clear you have specific opinions such as that Jesus Christ was not only a real person who lived but The Son of God...

Be aware some here may not share your view regardless that they agree with most of your accusations and assertions in all of your lengthy posts... so those who may agree that you are bringing up material already well covered and that in many ways we might share similar judgements upon these matters - especially finger pointing at the same "bad guys" - you might lose a few would be "agreers" when you come at them in such a way that suggests unless you are a "believer that Jesus Christ lived in the flesh and was THE Son of God" you are missing true understanding or implications along the lines you may be "lost."

And when you state things like that the King James version of the Bible is what we should all depend upon... you may lose a few more who would otherwise be in agreement.

What's my point? The less we push those hard core personal beliefs upon others, the more we might experience a unity that actually generates an energetic focus that could result in making a real, world changing impact upon our collective future.

I don't want to go into picking apart a post and dude, I have been all over this forum and opened myself up to plenty of picking apart as well... I just see a ball of Huge Energy from you and at the same time experience signs that concern me your impact might be lessened, thus am offering some friendly advice. I won't do it again and hope you can gain as much from being an Avalonian as you seem to be trying to give.

Take Care - Chester

Dennis Leahy
10th December 2012, 23:37
justoneman is (almost undoubtedly) the only person at Avalon that believes Oswald hit (or even fired a shot at) JFK, or else... he is irritated by the long post and is teasing you.

ANYone who has spent even a few hours of diligent research knows Oswald was indeed "the patsy." Anyone who implicates Oswald as one of the shooters much less "the lone" shooter either works for George Herbert Walker "Poppy" Bush or is unable to disengage from the laughably silly cover-up that ignores probably at least 100 pieces of evidence proving that several shooters fired at JFK from different angles and a shot from the front - hitting in the right front temple - blasted his head open and threw it "back and to the left."

About the only question left is exactly who ordered the hit, and whether they were drinking RH Positive or RH Negative human blood with their dinner.

Geez, I guess I get a bit irritated when someone even jokes that Oswald was the shooter.

Dennis

Chester
11th December 2012, 00:43
justoneman is (almost undoubtedly) the only person at Avalon that believes Oswald hit (or even fired a shot at) JFK, or else... he is irritated by the long post and is teasing you.

ANYone who has spent even a few hours of diligent research knows Oswald was indeed "the patsy." Anyone who implicates Oswald as one of the shooters much less "the lone" shooter either works for George Herbert Walker "Poppy" Bush or is unable to disengage from the laughably silly cover-up that ignores probably at least 100 pieces of evidence proving that several shooters fired at JFK from different angles and a shot from the front - hitting in the right front temple - blasted his head open and threw it "back and to the left."

About the only question left is exactly who ordered the hit, and whether they were drinking RH Positive or RH Negative human blood with their dinner.

Geez, I guess I get a bit irritated when someone even jokes that Oswald was the shooter.

Dennis

Hi Dennis - I need to make this very, very clear... I personally believed for years that Kennedy was almost 100% for certain killed via a conspiracy. The conspiracy could be from the 3D world or from a non 3D origin or both.

What I shared with you was a story I experienced with my cousin who also happens to be my god father who was a reporter for the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald (I cannot recall which) who was at the assassination and told me exactly what he experienced and what he believed. He also once ran for mayor of Dallas and lost in a run off (back in the late 70s. This man is quite an extraordinary individual. When he told me the story at a lunch I had with him last June, I was looking into the eyes of a man I believed believed fully what he believed and that was that Oswald was the shooter, the only shooter and that that so called magic bullet did what it did. That is all I shared with you.

What I have also shared with you is that I know some folks who were (and sort of still are) in a strangely close association with former President George H. W. Bush and that I found it very hard to believe the things so many people say about GHWB in light of the individuals I know, how they have been as individuals in relationship with me... meaning I have a very hard time reconciling my actual experience into being able to believe what I hear from the alternative community.

That is all I have ever said. Now I highly respect you and I think the world of your views in many ways. Your posts have been wonderful and inspiring. Your Reset Button project was and is a great thing and I wish the planet was full of folks with your character. So please, understand, I was simply sharing my experiences... real life, real world experiences. Maybe what "they" say about these folks is for the most part true... but my real world experience with folks close to these guys gives me a complete other perception.

Now you probably know me well enough to know I have a problem in that I love everybody. I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and always seek to find the love in the hearts of everyone. But we are all both good and a little bad and in the cases of some folks on this planet, maybe a lot bad and very little good. But I will be damned that I will every put anyone's opinion about someone else in front of my own actual experience - that is all I tried to convey.

Does that mean that if I received a secret message from GHWB that asked me to meet him at some secret spot somewhere and not tell anyone where I was going nor who I was going to meet that I would go? I would be scared to go... why? Because maybe he might think its better I disappear or worse, get used in some insane SRHS event... so I wouldn't go. And that's because of the scary stuff I have heard. But would I blindly follow everyone else's "beliefs" because they spent hours reading books and doing internet research? Nope, I won't do that either.

Now to throw one more twist into the mix here Dennis. Have you read any of my posts concerning what my father may have been? And have you also read my posts regarding my acumen in recognizing synchronicities? Well, if you read the 10 or so page document regarding the various circumstantial evidences related to my theory about my father, and then you examined the 10 or so page document about the interesting synchronicities that point the finger that I may very well be on the right track about my father, then you might understand that if a gun were held to my head and I had to answer yes or no, was Kennedy assassinated by a cabal and that I had to answer correctly, I would answer, Yes, because my very life depended that I answer correctly.

But this isn't "save your life" time Chester... my comments came from the same view as what our criminal courts are supposed to take and that is that a man (or in this case a theory) must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and based on all I have heard (and studied) regarding the Kennedy assassination, I would be unable convict GHWB or Johnson or elements of the Mob or some agents for the FEDeral Reserve or perhaps even MJ 12 operatives, etc. That does not mean that justice would be served, it just means I would not be able to, under the mandate a criminal court puts upon me, convict these sources based on the testimony of my cousin to me personally and based on those I know who are interestingly close to GHWB.

I did not mean to take this thread off course by the way.

I do believe the issues facing "humanity" if we want to restrict earth's problems just to this sub group is due to a dynamic we share with non earthly and even non 3D beings. I feel the pathway to solution is to be looking at "the entirety" of this complex problem which may very well have involved all the folks mentioned above and many I have not suggested as well as beings not considered to be human or if they are, may not be earth born.

Anyways, I always felt my previous communications in this regard were not fully understood and I take responsibility for that.

One last thing to throw out there is that if you could imagine being me and imagine that at age 21 your father was dead from what they told you was suicide, and that over the years some very strange information appeared along the way that suggested the possibility my own father could actually have been involved in some way in that event... and your psychic abilities returned to you various visions of what that involvement might have been and also who else was involved... wouldn't you be faced with having to process that information? It could all be nothing but delusion. I could be some MK Ultra agent meant to send folks down another silly false rabbit hole - and this I know so I don't blabber these details as whether there would be truth or not to any of it, what good now would broadcasting these things do for anyone? For one, if I happened to show some degree of accuracy, it might get my son's father killed, it might get my wife's husband killed, it might get my step-daughters step-dad killed and so what good could any of that possibly be for anyone of my family - the ones who depend on me to be a father and husband?

So what I did was I sought understanding. That's how I handled these possibilities and guess what I experienced? A strange sense of forgiveness. Something that only those who have actual, real experience with something horrific could really ever understand. So what I did, Dennis, was do something that wouldn't surprise me you also are able to do and have probably done... and that was to rise above it all, realize I had no dog in their hunt, sought to understand how folks could get themselves twisted up in such high level worldly drama and simply understand... the funny thing is that I also then understood the judgement/forgiveness game I used to play so much I thought it was simply right for all us "good" humans to do.

It was only through working through the incredible possibilities regarding my own father I could discover the power of understanding. In that realm, there is no judgement and when there's no judgement, there is also nothing to forgive.

Take Care, Dennis... Chester

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 00:57
justoneman is (almost undoubtedly) the only person at Avalon that believes Oswald hit (or even fired a shot at) JFK, or else... he is irritated by the long post and is teasing you.

ANYone who has spent even a few hours of diligent research knows Oswald was indeed "the patsy." Anyone who implicates Oswald as one of the shooters much less "the lone" shooter either works for George Herbert Walker "Poppy" Bush or is unable to disengage from the laughably silly cover-up that ignores probably at least 100 pieces of evidence proving that several shooters fired at JFK from different angles and a shot from the front - hitting in the right front temple - blasted his head open and threw it "back and to the left."

About the only question left is exactly who ordered the hit, and whether they were drinking RH Positive or RH Negative human blood with their dinner.

Geez, I guess I get a bit irritated when someone even jokes that Oswald was the shooter.

Dennis

Thank You Dennis , haha , nice way of explaining ;) sorry justoneman



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHzDAHB-MOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8hNo7M-DIU

This is a high quality video , allthough there is some misinfo in it , still worth a watch for those who are interested. (The Bohemian Grove stunt of Alex Jones was to give him credits , his father in law was a Knight of Malta you see...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3xLkfL5lI

Bill Cooper Exposes the assassination of JFK Rare video MAY 15th, 1991(forget about the ufo's its part of an agenda)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMPevSVn4co

Chester
11th December 2012, 01:07
justoneman is (almost undoubtedly) the only person at Avalon that believes Oswald hit (or even fired a shot at) JFK, or else... he is irritated by the long post and is teasing you.

ANYone who has spent even a few hours of diligent research knows Oswald was indeed "the patsy." Anyone who implicates Oswald as one of the shooters much less "the lone" shooter either works for George Herbert Walker "Poppy" Bush or is unable to disengage from the laughably silly cover-up that ignores probably at least 100 pieces of evidence proving that several shooters fired at JFK from different angles and a shot from the front - hitting in the right front temple - blasted his head open and threw it "back and to the left."

About the only question left is exactly who ordered the hit, and whether they were drinking RH Positive or RH Negative human blood with their dinner.

Geez, I guess I get a bit irritated when someone even jokes that Oswald was the shooter.

Dennis

Thank You Dennis , haha , nice way of explaining ;) sorry justoneman

WeAreOnebigFamily - explain to me who "we" is because you make it very clear who you think "they" is and I get the impression if I don't buy into the KJV of the Bible and that I don't necessarily believe Jesus Christ was THE son of God that I may get lumped into your "they"... I feel it is important for the safety of my family and myself that we (my family and I) fit well enough into your "we" if we can.

Raf with a good one - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52932-Belief-junkies-and-the-fear-of-not-knowing.

KiwiElf
11th December 2012, 01:25
There are some recent threads here on the JFK assassination, and Veterans Today site has also been running some interesting articles on the subject over the last few weeks WeAreOne - all adding to the theories of what we will probably never know for certain, simply because those involved are probably now dead.

You can backtrack from this one:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/10/the-jfk-war-the-empire-strikes-back/

Blow the lid on the JFK Assassination, and that pretty well blows the lid on many other conspiracies as well (Roswell, 9/11 etc).

A large octopus with long tendrils lives in the rabbit hole - welcome to Avalon :)

Dennis Leahy
11th December 2012, 05:07
Hi Dennis - I need to make this very, very clear... I personally believed for years that Kennedy was almost 100% for certain killed via a conspiracy. The conspiracy could be from the 3D world or from a non 3D origin or both.

What I shared with you was a story I experienced with my cousin who also happens to be my god father who was a reporter for the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald (I cannot recall which) who was at the assassination and told me exactly what he experienced and what he believed. He also once ran for mayor of Dallas and lost in a run off (back in the late 70s. This man is quite an extraordinary individual. When he told me the story at a lunch I had with him last June, I was looking into the eyes of a man I believed believed fully what he believed and that was that Oswald was the shooter, the only shooter and that that so called magic bullet did what it did.

Chester
OK, so he either believed it or was lying to you. Let's go with sincerely believed it. So what? Lots of people believe things that are not true

No conspiracy???
(I'm not going to rehash all of it, here are are couple of "bullet points."



There's the fact that for the first time ever, the Secret Service did not check out the motorcade route, and told the Dallas police they were not needed.
for the first time ever, the Secret Service changed the route at the last hour.
for the first time ever, the Secret Service ordered agents to get back from the car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HztYOehDL5w), just before the shooting
acoustics experts have analyzed the transmission from the motorcade cop that left his mic on and counted (I can't remember, eleven?) shots fired and from at least three vastly different trajectories - and that included a 95% certainty that a shot was fired from the grassy knoll area
the vast majority of witnesses said a shot was fired from the "grassy knoll" which, by simple physics, is exactly the correct angle to shove JFK's head back and to the left
the reporters who went on the air first said he was shot in the front right
the doctors at Parkland Hospital said he was shot (entrance wound) in the front right
JFKs scalp was cut and stitched on the jet ride from Dallas to Bethesda, (to try to obfuscate that it was an entrance wound), and JFK even came off the jet in a different casket than the one he went in with
the Warren Commission's pseudo-physics of the magic bullet needs a new word in the English dictionary: "ridiculous" is inadequate (if anyone believes that physics gets suspended during the extreme emotions of events like assassinations and false-flag attacks, then I cannot converse with that person on any subject involving physics evidence.) Ricocheting bullets follow the laws of physics.
a bullet was "miraculously found" on a gurney in Parkland Hospital after the murder, and matched to the gun Oswald was supposed to have used. The bullet looks pretty good for breaking bones in two people and rewriting the laws of physics. In fact, I think I can see the face of Jesus in the bullet (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/CE399side.jpg) if I squint really hard.
the Zapruder film was tampered with (to hide the fact that the limo came to an abrupt stop or nearly a stop, then the shots were fired) (Video forensic evidence. ask Jim Fetzer - he studied it extensively)
JFK's brain was "lost" (100% impossible that is was "accidentally" lost)
the windshield of the limo was immediately and quietly replaced (hiding yet another hole, reported by several eye-witnesses)
the limo was scrubbed down and all evidence destroyed
the motorcade cop, riding behind and to the left of the limo got splattered with JFK's brain matter and blood when the final shot was fired. (Physics.)
and for those that actually believe in physics, if I get hit with a fist or a bullet in the right temple, my head will go backwards and to the left. (Simple physics.) If there was only ONE SINGLE piece of forensics evidence, JFK's head being blasted open from the front, spraying the cop behind him, and shoving his head backwards is all anyone would need to know beyond any doubt that the final and fatal head shot was from the front right.

That's enough from me, I feel like I just wasted an hour of my time. Because, since you spoke with someone you trust who unblinkingly offered his opinion as to what he believes happened, I suspect that will trump anything else and you'll continue to discount all of the actual forensic evidence proving your godfather is wrong. It is your right, your prerogative, to believe anything you want, but I'll not spend any more time on this.


Dennis

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 05:25
There are some recent threads here on the JFK assassination, and Veterans Today site has also been running some interesting articles on the subject over the last few weeks WeAreOne - all adding to the theories of what we will probably never know for certain, simply because those involved are probably now dead.

You can backtrack from this one:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/10/the-jfk-war-the-empire-strikes-back/

Blow the lid on the JFK Assassination, and that pretty well blows the lid on many other conspiracies as well (Roswell, 9/11 etc).

A large octopus with long tendrils lives in the rabbit hole - welcome to Avalon :)

well if you want to know more of this then i advice you to contact Eric Jon phelps as he has his email on his website
Http://Vaticanassassins.org
He studied it for more then 25 years and he is a walking enclopedia

From what i picked up there were several hitman from the maffia killed that were involved in the assassination so that they could never tell the story , so yeah your right.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 05:28
justoneman is (almost undoubtedly) the only person at Avalon that believes Oswald hit (or even fired a shot at) JFK, or else... he is irritated by the long post and is teasing you.

ANYone who has spent even a few hours of diligent research knows Oswald was indeed "the patsy." Anyone who implicates Oswald as one of the shooters much less "the lone" shooter either works for George Herbert Walker "Poppy" Bush or is unable to disengage from the laughably silly cover-up that ignores probably at least 100 pieces of evidence proving that several shooters fired at JFK from different angles and a shot from the front - hitting in the right front temple - blasted his head open and threw it "back and to the left."

About the only question left is exactly who ordered the hit, and whether they were drinking RH Positive or RH Negative human blood with their dinner.

Geez, I guess I get a bit irritated when someone even jokes that Oswald was the shooter.

Dennis

Thank You Dennis , haha , nice way of explaining ;) sorry justoneman

WeAreOnebigFamily - explain to me who "we" is because you make it very clear who you think "they" is and I get the impression if I don't buy into the KJV of the Bible and that I don't necessarily believe Jesus Christ was THE son of God that I may get lumped into your "they"... I feel it is important for the safety of my family and myself that we (my family and I) fit well enough into your "we" if we can.

Raf with a good one - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52932-Belief-junkies-and-the-fear-of-not-knowing.

LOL
Whats the matter ? can't take justice ?
the WE is the people who are standing for the TRUTH and who demand justice and a change in course , because the old agenda's they have designed are all about to get into action , we can't accept that because its inhuman and from the devil and we don't want that there are FAR better way's to handle it all , but you see they have their rotten sneaky plan to take over the world and to deny the word of GOD , well they can better listen to the word of GOD is will save THEM a lot of misery later on.

ThePythonicCow
11th December 2012, 06:04
I'm not going to rehash all of it, here are are couple of "bullet points."
So far as I can tell, justoneman is not disagreeing with anything you said, Dennis :).

Justoneman even allowed as how, if his life were on the line and he had to pick the true story, he'd pick something that I took to be similar to what you tell, not to what his cousin, aka god father, told him.

It's also true, from the way I read it, that while justoneman's cousin, aka god father, was speaking to him on this topic, justoneman believed what he was hearing.

Life is good ... and getting better ... and hit jobs like this JFK killing, or false flag jobs like 9/11, are becoming seriously frayed.

panopticon
11th December 2012, 06:32
... we can't accept that because its inhuman and from the devil and we don't want that there are FAR better way's to handle it all , but you see they have their rotten sneaky plan to take over the world and to deny the word of GOD , well they can better listen to the word of GOD is will save THEM a lot of misery later on.

WeAreONEbigFamily, can you please explain what are you saying in the quoted material as I don't wish there to be any confusion (it appears that English is not your native language).
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

Dennis Leahy
11th December 2012, 07:23
So far as I can tell, justoneman is not disagreeing with anything you said, Dennis :).

Justoneman even allowed as how, if his life were on the line and he had to pick the true story, he'd pick something that I took to be similar to what you tell, not to what his cousin, aka god father, told him.

It's also true, from the way I read it, that while justoneman's cousin, aka god father, was speaking to him on this topic, justoneman believed what he was hearing.

Life is good ... and getting better ... and hit jobs like this JFK killing, or false flag jobs like 9/11, are becoming seriously frayed.


... I personally believed for years that Kennedy was almost 100% for certain killed via a conspiracy. ... a story I experienced with my cousin who also happens to be my god father who was a reporter for the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald (I cannot recall which) who was at the assassination and told me exactly what he experienced and what he believed. ... When he told me the story at a lunch I had with him last June, I was looking into the eyes of a man I believed believed fully what he believed and that was that Oswald was the shooter, the only shooter and that that so called magic bullet did what it did.

.. Chester



Hi Paul,

Here, and in a previous post Chester espoused the view that Poppy Bush is (or may be) a nice guy, and not the sociopathic monster we (at least I) make him out to be.

Chester told me before that the conversation with his godfather did convince him, and he now believes in Oswald the lone gunman and no conspiracy.

If you look at what is highlighted above, the past tense of "believe" is used. So, I do think Chester and I disagree on this - strongly.


... Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well ...
...and that phrase is what compelled me to write.

As I mentioned in a PM to Chester,the JFK murder was my wake-up call. I spent quite a bit of time researching it, the seminal event, the turning point for very dark, evil forces to step out from behind the curtain - just enough to make it obvious that it was not only a hit, but that they can and will overtly kill anyone who gets into their way. They could have killed him with much less fanfare. It was a warning to all of us. We're not even supposed to believe in the lone gunman - the people who ordered the hit want us to know it was a hit.

So, yeah, I get upset when I see anyone espousing the obviously ridiculous notion that Oswald was the shooter and especially the only shooter. It is beyond preposterous.

It's OK for Chester and I to strongly disagree on this. I hope I have stayed on "this" side of the line and not make him feel personally attacked - but that I did attack what I see as really bad intel.

And yes, I hope you're right, and that old false-flags and assassinations cover stories are looking like Swiss cheese, and hopefully any new false-flags and assassinations will be extremely difficult to foist, conceal, and cover-up.

Dennis

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 07:25
Like i said most of the NWO agenda's are plans of the devil (where the human mind takes over from the laws of GOD (creator)) , i think a short respond back will not be enough to tell it all.

Take Monsanto for an Example , or the farmaceutical Industry , this is not about money , the Jesuits have all the money they want , this is about power and manipulating people and to use them in their agenda's against humanity and they use money and profit to achieve it , some people are totally bananas over money no matter what the cost is. They make use of that.

If they decided to bring back the world population at least half and they don't care how it happens , now then you know what to expect , not much good , not much caring. and then i didn't even mentioned WW3 or an invasion of Jesuit controlled China into the USA.

And what the word of GOD concerns , read the KJ bible

panopticon
11th December 2012, 07:33
Like i said most of the NWO agenda's are plans of the devil...

And what the word of GOD concerns , read the KJ bible

Thank you for the response.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

eva08
11th December 2012, 07:40
WeAreOneBigFamily: Thank you, so much for posting this information; you spent lots of time to put all this together in a concise summary. Thank you, again, much appreciated. I am still taking the time to look at your information.

Arrowwind
11th December 2012, 07:48
I watched the film called Dark Legacy, about the assination of JFF, that holds Herbert Walker Bush as the assination king pin.
the film makes a very strong case. Available on netfilx with trailer on youtube. The best conspiracy theory Ive seen that points to strong probability


Now with the storieis of connections of Bushes to pedophilia perhaps there is some church connections, as perhaps they like to 'party' toghether. but I think the CIA did it.

Jax13K4jRwY

Chester
11th December 2012, 08:41
My passion to respond as I did is based on what I believe is the far deeper causes of the lunacy we experience on this planet. It is behind the human beings, it is behind the so-labeled psychopaths, it is behind the creators of religions - especially religions that generate further fire fueling energies and use the truthful things they represent as their disguise or mask or whatever else you want to call the smoke screens.

WeAreOnebigFamily burst onto this forum in a manner I felt sets back a great deal of progress I thought I had experienced here (on Avalon), did so and is continuing to do so in a manner that restarts the very polarization tactic that has been proven to work so well for centuries all just before a date which may be just another day to lots of folks but in my opinion is a date on which a great deal of common intention will be focused upon by many folks across the globe. And then injects his energies into perhaps the leading online community on the planet which I felt my duty to do everything I could to tamp down a bit for all our sakes - probably something I should know better not to do... even though a forum is meant as an opportunity to express our views and even challenge others a bit - as long as it is done respectfully enough.

That some here would like to focus on ancient history (again) and be batteries for what I personally hoped might become ancient energies has me a bit sad as this world we leave to our children and I just thought we could all do better.

I have found that religious zealotry is one of the most insidious weapons in the arsenal of the deeper levels of "the cause" as to what is going on on our lovely planet. I smelled it from WeAreOnebigFamily's first few posts. I have posted a lot so who am I to point a finger? I am a father and husband that leaves this planet to my children and perhaps I am wrong and there is no other culprit but some evil entity named "Satan" and his minions behind all of this and that every word in the King James Version of the Bible is the Official Word of God (as interpreted by WeAreOnebigFamily) and that these are the lovely end times and folks like me, my sons, my wife and step-daughter... some amongst this group who have been religiously persecuted by the thumpers upon that very book and version... in fact burned at stakes in our past lives are doomed to experience this again while some laugh in our aces calling it "justice."

Perhaps Jesus was a better man than me because I can only shake my head and say to myself, "maybe this then will be the very end times they desire..." doing my best to avoid the word, "deserve," and walk away.

To Dennis - you can post my PMs to you if you like as well as yours to me - I really don't care what "they" might do to my family or me anymore for my true to heart private views... I know they have the technology to read all my own communications and in fact, even my own thoughts (everyone's for that matter). I have done my best to be a good slave and done my best to get over myself such that the world's direction might slightly alter towards a direction of hope... where we or at least our children might experience true, loving peace on Earth.

Strange how bits and pieces of my self honesty gets picked up and then highlighted and then presented as my whole, actual true and complete view of the matter (just the JFK matter) where most of my statements have been ignored.

Polarization - always serves its purpose well - I am guilty at times of descending into polarization...

Maybe I should consider simply leaving the show and let the ancient energies have their way further... attempting to assist in shifting the course of realities may best be left into the hands of WeAreOnebigFamily... strange how "big" wasn't capitalized... is that a Freudian typo that actually suggests only big enough for the narrow path of "evangelicals"?

Strange how those things just happen.

Hervé
11th December 2012, 08:48
Why don't you guys check this thread: The Vile Truth of the JFK Assassination (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27226-The-Vile-Truth-of-the-JFK-Assassination), so as to get another viewpoint on the matter

Arrowwind
11th December 2012, 09:02
There are some recent threads here on the JFK assassination, and Veterans Today site has also been running some interesting articles on the subject over the last few weeks WeAreOne - all adding to the theories of what we will probably never know for certain, simply because those involved are probably now dead.

:)

Herbert Walker Bush is not dead. I see him frequently palling around with Bill Clinton.
What a team they are!

bennycog
11th December 2012, 09:31
what a thread... riveting and fascinating from all involved.. im not being sarcastic or anything..
I truely love the back and forth momentum of it.. justone and weareone, you guys are on a wicked ride.. if anyone hears what any of you guys are saying and takes it onboard we are going to see a better world......

what i see is pure heart and the distress it is in, because of minor conflict..
but what you do not realise is that the minor conflict contributes to "both" heart content..

there are very intrusive people in this world.. and most research has brought them people looking for answers right here..

avalon is not the last stop but a major stepping stone, from my opinion..

Weareone, has rehashed the awakening process. this extra process might be needed because of all the new and beautiful awakened ones.. and you my Oneman are deeply involved in with the rest of us, in knowing the form of what we call "the matrix" around us.. knowing that evil exists to destroy, in many forms and in many dimensions..

can i quote the new banner " The chronicles Of The human Awakening" because i think it fits perfectly here..

and im still on my ride....

The23rdman
11th December 2012, 09:51
just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Not only the federal reserve although that's probably one of the most important reasons , he also wanted to end the Vietnam war , break the CIA in a thousand pieces , and wanted to change course in the nuclear energy buisness AND he had said to Rome that as long as he was president no Pope would tell him what to do. Also Cardinal spellman was not allowed to join the meetings

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just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Yes i know that Bill has been on the subject , i will have to take a look at it , thx for the link.

I listened to one part and find Jordan Maxwell speaking on the subject as well , now here is my problem with that. Jordan Maxwell is in my eyes not the right person to lead it all (alltough he speaks a lot of truth ) , because he has tried to say that Jesus Christ was merely symbolic for the SUN not the SON , so this is where it get tricky if he succeeds to convince the people that Jesus Christ is not important then he will contribute to the agenda of the Jesuits to destroy christianity and lead people away from it , he also seems to support the New Age Movement (and there are more David Icke for example) which was created by a Jesuit named Pierre Teilhart de Chardin , this is the same Jesuit that brought MAO to power who starved 45 million people in China !

So when you people say these subject are all been treated already , then i would suggest to reopen them until its all very clear.

I´m not trying to convert anyone to true Christianity , i have alway´s said my religion is truth and if that leads me To Jesus Christ Yahuwshwa Messiach then so be it. Remember that the Society of Jesus was created to destroy True Christianity and there is a very good reason for that , otherwise they never would´ve done all this trouble the past 550 years and killed so many people.

I think the keys to deal with Satan are in The KJ Bible and we should carefully study all aspects of it.
God Bless

But surely the KJ bible is a bastardisation of the true teachings? My research led me to conclude that it is as close to truth as most of the disinformation floating around YouTube.

The23rdman
11th December 2012, 10:00
And yes, I hope you're right, and that old false-flags and assassinations cover stories are looking like Swiss cheese, and hopefully any new false-flags and assassinations will be extremely difficult to foist, conceal, and cover-up.

Dennis

Dennis, whilst I agree with most everything you said and I also hope this is true, I think the most likely outcome is that the masses will believe whatever they are told to believe however incredulous it might be. We have recent history to prove this. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Obama himself walk down the street and assassinate a school full of children, have it all caught on camera and STILL have it successfully covered up and explained away. People see what they are programmed to see and the boat always settles.

We are not ready to take responsibility for our lives as a species yet.

Dennis Leahy
11th December 2012, 14:54
...

That some here would like to focus on ancient history (again) ...

I have found that religious zealotry is one of the most insidious weapons in the arsenal of the deeper levels of "the cause" as to what is going on on our lovely planet. I smelled it from WeAreOnebigFamily's first few posts. I have posted a lot so who am I to point a finger? I am a father and husband that leaves this planet to my children and perhaps I am wrong and there is no other culprit but some evil entity named "Satan" and his minions behind all of this and that every word in the King James Version of the Bible is the Official Word of God ...

...

To Dennis - you can post my PMs to you if you like as well as yours to me - I really don't care what "they" might do to my family or me anymore for my true to heart private views... I know they have the technology to read all my own communications and in fact, even my own thoughts (everyone's for that matter). ...

Polarization - always serves its purpose well - I am guilty at times of descending into polarization...

Maybe I should consider simply leaving the show and let the ancient energies have their way further... ...
Avalon is a melange of souls at different levels of awakening to our true nature. (Perhaps I'm the thickest skulled and slowest learner.) There's material here for many levels, and if we have passed one level, that doesn't make its information irrelevant for others.

You'd have to admit that is is ironic to point out "ancient" (if you mean to poke fun at November '63) and be heavily invested in ancient archons.

Religion? I don't believe any religion. I don't believe in satan and I don't believe in archons. I try not to stick my nose into gatherings of believers, as I don't want a bloody nose. I consider belief in archons as just one more form of religious or quasi-religious zealotry. I know we are spirits "trapped" in a body because I broke free, once (NDE/OBE.) What I found interesting in this thread is the evidence (however circumstantial) of the vatican involvement in JFK's murder. Proof? Ha! We'll never know. But I found it interesting, partially because I see organized religion as a "gang", and see the catholic church as steeped in centuries of overt action I see as evil, greed and power-lust based, manipulative, and controlling (overt evil, the covert evil stuff is just rumors without proof.)

Chester, I'm not sure if you are saying I could (if I wanted to) post your PMs, or if you're saying that I already did. If I say something in private I want kept private, or that is personal to the recipient, I don't post it. If I make a general statement about my feelings on a matter, something I would have posted publicly anyway, then I may offer it publicly as well as include it in a PM. To my knowledge, I have never publicly disclosed something from someone else from a PM that was intended to stay private. If I did, even accidentally, let the mods know and I'll accept a vacation - or dismissal - graciously.

Oh, and I don't believe anyone can read my thoughts, or yours. I assume the NSA has every word I've written (I hope humans read them all and maybe I have planted a few seeds of truth.) We give the bastards too much credit. Reverse-engineering a "flying saucer" is one thing; creating a machine to read minds is quite another. I'd guess they could target someone they could geolocate and send frequencies to give them a bad headache - maybe even explode their head - but they don't read minds. If they did, they'd find that I already wrote down as much of it as I could remember. I don't ascribe superpowers to evil people.

Now, let's let WeAreONEbigFamily have his thread back, OK?

Dennis

Chester
11th December 2012, 15:10
So far as I can tell, justoneman is not disagreeing with anything you said, Dennis :).

Justoneman even allowed as how, if his life were on the line and he had to pick the true story, he'd pick something that I took to be similar to what you tell, not to what his cousin, aka god father, told him.

It's also true, from the way I read it, that while justoneman's cousin, aka god father, was speaking to him on this topic, justoneman believed what he was hearing.

Life is good ... and getting better ... and hit jobs like this JFK killing, or false flag jobs like 9/11, are becoming seriously frayed.


... I personally believed for years that Kennedy was almost 100% for certain killed via a conspiracy. ... a story I experienced with my cousin who also happens to be my god father who was a reporter for the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald (I cannot recall which) who was at the assassination and told me exactly what he experienced and what he believed. ... When he told me the story at a lunch I had with him last June, I was looking into the eyes of a man I believed believed fully what he believed and that was that Oswald was the shooter, the only shooter and that that so called magic bullet did what it did.

.. Chester



Hi Paul,

Here, and in a previous post Chester espoused the view that Poppy Bush is (or may be) a nice guy, and not the sociopathic monster we (at least I) make him out to be.

Chester told me before that the conversation with his godfather did convince him, and he now believes in Oswald the lone gunman and no conspiracy.

If you look at what is highlighted above, the past tense of "believe" is used. So, I do think Chester and I disagree on this - strongly.


... Oswald's rifle shots hit their intended target so well ...
...and that phrase is what compelled me to write.

As I mentioned in a PM to Chester,the JFK murder was my wake-up call. I spent quite a bit of time researching it, the seminal event, the turning point for very dark, evil forces to step out from behind the curtain - just enough to make it obvious that it was not only a hit, but that they can and will overtly kill anyone who gets into their way. They could have killed him with much less fanfare. It was a warning to all of us. We're not even supposed to believe in the lone gunman - the people who ordered the hit want us to know it was a hit.

So, yeah, I get upset when I see anyone espousing the obviously ridiculous notion that Oswald was the shooter and especially the only shooter. It is beyond preposterous.

It's OK for Chester and I to strongly disagree on this. I hope I have stayed on "this" side of the line and not make him feel personally attacked - but that I did attack what I see as really bad intel.

And yes, I hope you're right, and that old false-flags and assassinations cover stories are looking like Swiss cheese, and hopefully any new false-flags and assassinations will be extremely difficult to foist, conceal, and cover-up.

Dennis

Dennis - if you walked in my shoes, you might understand... I loved (still love him like he was with me just yesterday)... my Dad and many others loved my Dad for the man they knew. At the same time, there's the possibility (and I have vast evidence that point a grisly finger at this) that he may also have been an assassin for this very cabal. Now if true, who amongst most of us here on Avalon might have the most "justification" to hate these folks? To go on some campaign against these folks?

I somehow took a different route and moved my emotions through the possibilities. And note, I was born and raised in Dallas and in the 60s Dallas was less than a million folks and at that time there was a small, tight group of folks who ran that town - my family right on the very fringe of the actual movers and shakers - perfect position for an MK Ultra type branch of the larger family.

But that was his life, not mine... and if my speculations happen to be on target, that was his agreements with the folks he may have entered into relationship - regardless that he may have been steered into it from a young age or not. I certainly take responsibility for my past, my past associations, the good of me (there was some) and the very bad of me (there was a lot) I was along the way. But I moved through it all and past it all and I freed myself from those bounds BUT, I realized the key ingredient "they" had over me was knowledge of my own personal nature. I was a warlike individual. I loved competition, I loved games, I loved intrigue and drama and all sorts of garbage that goes along with being a successful Monarch style robotoid and I failed.

Something greater that I had within me always held its final ground... something far greater than myself (just my opinion) - something so far, saved me from me... so an equally important reason I post here on this forum is the hope that by my candor, at least one other person might avoid the almost successful suicide attempts I experienced not even one year ago, that at least one other person might avoid the known 5 suicide attempts my first wife, Mandy, endured and survived, the successful suicide of my father and finally, that I might transmit how I have been able to rise above the battle within myself that sometimes still rears its ugly head.

Anyways, thanks for enduring another one of my "confessions" - justoneman, Chester

Chester
11th December 2012, 15:15
But surely the KJ bible is a bastardisation of the true teachings? My research led me to conclude that it is as close to truth as most of the disinformation floating around YouTube.

Precisely and thanks for sharing this.

Chester
11th December 2012, 15:28
...

That some here would like to focus on ancient history (again) ...

I have found that religious zealotry is one of the most insidious weapons in the arsenal of the deeper levels of "the cause" as to what is going on on our lovely planet. I smelled it from WeAreOnebigFamily's first few posts. I have posted a lot so who am I to point a finger? I am a father and husband that leaves this planet to my children and perhaps I am wrong and there is no other culprit but some evil entity named "Satan" and his minions behind all of this and that every word in the King James Version of the Bible is the Official Word of God ...

...

To Dennis - you can post my PMs to you if you like as well as yours to me - I really don't care what "they" might do to my family or me anymore for my true to heart private views... I know they have the technology to read all my own communications and in fact, even my own thoughts (everyone's for that matter). ...

Polarization - always serves its purpose well - I am guilty at times of descending into polarization...

Maybe I should consider simply leaving the show and let the ancient energies have their way further... ...
Avalon is a melange of souls at different levels of awakening to our true nature. (Perhaps I'm the thickest skulled and slowest learner.) There's material here for many levels, and if we have passed one level, that doesn't make its information irrelevant for others.

You'd have to admit that is is ironic to point out "ancient" (if you mean to poke fun at November '63) and be heavily invested in ancient archons.

Religion? I don't believe any religion. I don't believe in satan and I don't believe in archons. I try not to stick my nose into gatherings of believers, as I don't want a bloody nose. I consider belief in archons as just one more form of religious or quasi-religious zealotry. I know we are spirits "trapped" in a body because I broke free, once (NDE/OBE.) What I found interesting in this thread is the evidence (however circumstantial) of the vatican involvement in JFK's murder. Proof? Ha! We'll never know. But I found it interesting, partially because I see organized religion as a "gang", and see the catholic church as steeped in centuries of overt action I see as evil, greed and power-lust based, manipulative, and controlling (overt evil, the covert evil stuff is just rumors without proof.)

Chester, I'm not sure if you are saying I could (if I wanted to) post your PMs, or if you're saying that I already did. If I say something in private I want kept private, or that is personal to the recipient, I don't post it. If I make a general statement about my feelings on a matter, something I would have posted publicly anyway, then I may offer it publicly as well as include it in a PM. To my knowledge, I have never publicly disclosed something from someone else from a PM that was intended to stay private. If I did, even accidentally, let the mods know and I'll accept a vacation - or dismissal - graciously.

Oh, and I don't believe anyone can read my thoughts, or yours. I assume the NSA has every word I've written (I hope humans read them all and maybe I have planted a few seeds of truth.) We give the bastards too much credit. Reverse-engineering a "flying saucer" is one thing; creating a machine to read minds is quite another. I'd guess they could target someone they could geolocate and send frequencies to give them a bad headache - maybe even explode their head - but they don't read minds. If they did, they'd find that I already wrote down as much of it as I could remember. I don't ascribe superpowers to evil people.

Now, let's let WeAreONEbigFamily have his thread back, OK?

Dennis

Hi Dennis, I said I give you full permission to post my PMs - I was a little scared but I am far more scared as to what I teach my sons by being scared. Having said that, there is intelligence in not asking to be suicided... I am hoping to avoid that though, when I move to my primary calling, which is to explore the deeper ins and outs behind SRA and SRHS (and animal sacrifice) I may simply end up as Dr. Turner - not my goal frankly. Also let's get this one very clear - I don't necessarily "believe" in "Archons" - I simply happen to be open minded about what we have labeled as Archons and that within an individual's experience of reality can come forth an experience with such a construct and that this experience can extend to the physical realm.

I find being open minded to be a wonderful trait...

Lastly, I have had one single OBE but that experience had a profound impact upon me and raised my level of courage by a full tenfold magnitude. Note that at the end of the day, what may appear to be courage can be looked back upon as foolishness - but only others after me will be able to make that judgement... I simply follow my heart.

Since your opinion is that I (and/or others) may have derailed this thread (I have yet to have a Mod tell me this which if occurred I would take that more seriously), I also agree we all have the right to explore all this any way we want and that there should be an honoring of sorts to follow the general landscape insinuated by an OP, thus I acquiesce and will move away from any further commentary in this thread as well as others of this nature.

If I have happened to irritate anyone in this thread or any other thread of WeAreOnebigFamily - wait until you read (if you have the desire) my soon to be posted take on the possibilities of the lovely so labeled Satanic agenda happening on earth and what may actually be behind it.

Enjoy the Day and note, if I suddenly stop posting... you can be certain I am no longer in physical living form upon this earth - Chester

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 17:20
WeAreOneBigFamily: Thank you, so much for posting this information; you spent lots of time to put all this together in a concise summary. Thank you, again, much appreciated. I am still taking the time to look at your information.

I'm glad you take it so positive that's the spirit !
No its not my information , i'm just sharing it because i believe its of enormous importance.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 17:32
I watched the film called Dark Legacy, about the assination of JFF, that holds Herbert Walker Bush as the assination king pin.
the film makes a very strong case. Available on netfilx with trailer on youtube. The best conspiracy theory Ive seen that points to strong probability

Now with the storieis of connections of Bushes to pedophilia perhaps there is some church connections, as perhaps they like to 'party' toghether. but I think the CIA did it.

Jax13K4jRwY

SMOM H.W Bush went to the event to watch it (the wicked sinner)
Yes as usual the CIA alway's play's a role in it.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 17:45
just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Not only the federal reserve although that's probably one of the most important reasons , he also wanted to end the Vietnam war , break the CIA in a thousand pieces , and wanted to change course in the nuclear energy buisness AND he had said to Rome that as long as he was president no Pope would tell him what to do. Also Cardinal spellman was not allowed to join the meetings

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just because a message is old, makes it no less important...

did you know Bill did Videos on the Vatican years ago with Camelot?


and hundreds of threads, thousands of pages of discussion?

they are brought forward in many different way, from newly awakened sad, to explosive

Project Avalon 2008 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13767)

JFK was taken out by the Federal Reserve for rocking the boat...

but stumble through the story from any direction and it leads back to the same spot, the top of the one eyed Pyramid...

Yes i know that Bill has been on the subject , i will have to take a look at it , thx for the link.

I listened to one part and find Jordan Maxwell speaking on the subject as well , now here is my problem with that. Jordan Maxwell is in my eyes not the right person to lead it all (alltough he speaks a lot of truth ) , because he has tried to say that Jesus Christ was merely symbolic for the SUN not the SON , so this is where it get tricky if he succeeds to convince the people that Jesus Christ is not important then he will contribute to the agenda of the Jesuits to destroy christianity and lead people away from it , he also seems to support the New Age Movement (and there are more David Icke for example) which was created by a Jesuit named Pierre Teilhart de Chardin , this is the same Jesuit that brought MAO to power who starved 45 million people in China !

So when you people say these subject are all been treated already , then i would suggest to reopen them until its all very clear.

I´m not trying to convert anyone to true Christianity , i have alway´s said my religion is truth and if that leads me To Jesus Christ Yahuwshwa Messiach then so be it. Remember that the Society of Jesus was created to destroy True Christianity and there is a very good reason for that , otherwise they never would´ve done all this trouble the past 550 years and killed so many people.

I think the keys to deal with Satan are in The KJ Bible and we should carefully study all aspects of it.
God Bless

Your enthusiasm is greatly appreciated, my fellow Avalonian. Lots of super cool folks who have provided lots of awesome posts have given you some attention, excellent feedback, some tips (take em or leave em) and appreciation that you have been accepted into membership here.

So let's take some things head on them ... It is clear you have specific opinions such as that Jesus Christ was not only a real person who lived but The Son of God...

Be aware some here may not share your view regardless that they agree with most of your accusations and assertions in all of your lengthy posts... so those who may agree that you are bringing up material already well covered and that in many ways we might share similar judgements upon these matters - especially finger pointing at the same "bad guys" - you might lose a few would be "agreers" when you come at them in such a way that suggests unless you are a "believer that Jesus Christ lived in the flesh and was THE Son of God" you are missing true understanding or implications along the lines you may be "lost."

And when you state things like that the King James version of the Bible is what we should all depend upon... you may lose a few more who would otherwise be in agreement.

What's my point? The less we push those hard core personal beliefs upon others, the more we might experience a unity that actually generates an energetic focus that could result in making a real, world changing impact upon our collective future.

I don't want to go into picking apart a post and dude, I have been all over this forum and opened myself up to plenty of picking apart as well... I just see a ball of Huge Energy from you and at the same time experience signs that concern me your impact might be lessened, thus am offering some friendly advice. I won't do it again and hope you can gain as much from being an Avalonian as you seem to be trying to give.

Take Care - Chester

I do not put all my hope in a book its more the Norms and Values , don't misundertand me , i'm open for discussing these issues only if there is a honest approach.

But i do see that though out history it has alway's been the goal of the world controllers to destroy christianity NOW THAT should open ALL our eyes ! WHY is it sooo important for them to destroy true christianity ???

Why do High Masons hide behind Christianity just like these criminals in Rome do ?
well ?

Well if you start to research it you will find that it has a alot to do with the descendants of the tribe of Judah

Why do we see so much Jew blaming in the 911 truth movement ???
and all this misinformation that the Rothschilds rule the world !
and that jews run USA (in their dreams they do have an important role but these are not jews anymore , more modern phariseers)

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I heard from torah jews that Jesus Christ is not his real name , Yahuwshwa Messiach is his real name.

Some protestants again say that they don't team up with torah jews because they still reject Jesus Christ

But i have to be honest with you , that its also for ME a confusing subject but my logic is on a trail and i would like to discuss that then.

I appreciate it that you try to think with me , that is truly appreciated.
Please don't bother to say something if you think something might go wrong , i'm also only a human and i will make mistakes.

Yeah my mistake i forgot that everything i write is being watched , i agee with you fully that being too direct is leading to the opposite , thx for telling that , i probably was getting a bit tired yesterday.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 18:17
But surely the KJ bible is a bastardisation of the true teachings? My research led me to conclude that it is as close to truth as most of the disinformation floating around YouTube.

Precisely and thanks for sharing this.

now i would like to see from both of you an explanation of why you said what you said here , tell me what made you say this .


I'm one and all ear.........

Rocky_Shorz
11th December 2012, 20:00
I'm surprised Kreagle hasn't popped in to say hi...

he knows more of the KJB than anyone else on the forum, but not so much the conspiracies...

Rocky_Shorz
13th December 2012, 21:20
http://youtu.be/c0IxTHjQl9E