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WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 00:49
Mmmh , hard were shall i start ?:Cry:

I'm realizing more and more that this is indeed a friendly community.

Now the issue here is that since i signed up i have thrown some hardcore truths about this world in to the group........which i think is nescessary for realizing the truth and exposing certain global conspiracy's that are in full force.

I think my approach is maybe a bit too direct and too harsh ?

Please try to understand that i have been on YT for at least 2,5 years and i have been battling alot , it was a pretty complicated process , especially when i was not well enough informed about most things , i also started as a New Ager without knowing it.

I have done a LOT of research , because my will never rested.
I HAD to pierce through most of the agenda's that were going on.
I did not succeeded in exposing them all , but close enough.

In this 2,5 years i have lost a lot , a lot of friends (who i now don't consider friends anymore) i felt being abandoned , nobody really wanted to know the truth behind everything , too uncomfortable , too confrontating , especially in my direct neighbourhood i could NEVER tell them what i discovered , which made me feel even more frustrating which resulted ofcourse in more conflict and more abandoness.

I can imagine that especially when your a beginner and come in contact with these fearmonger agenda's that are going on (a lot of it is even true)
I went nuts several times , i can remember that one time i was so shocked , i believe it was with Haarp creating Earthquakes and The Gulf Oilspill and Fukushima almost all in the same period then Chemtrails , Monsanto , that i was litturally Spastic shaking on the couch for at least 15 minutes ! Al kinds of enormous doomscenarios came to my mind.

Fortunally a lot is gone because i succeed in seeing who was pooring oil on the fire and who not. (I tell you there are some wicked people buissy spreading disinfo that can litturally make people NUTS if they believe it) an example is a video on Chemtrails and Morgellan Disease , that was truly totally NUTS , i'm still angry on those who collaborate with these organizations. that video was INSANE like everything was lost....no way back
that was this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzW5Kb8u0Og

And since i started to research 911 i had no rest , realizing i became a computer junkie for the time that i would try to pierce this gigantic conspiracy against mankind , because that's what it is. I knew that if we succeeded in finding out the truth about 911 , then we could tell it the world and prevent the chainreaction of the Crimes against Humanity in the Middle East ! Fortunally there are still enough people who do care about the truth i receive them everyday.

But i thought wel ok i sacrifice my time and my social contacts , but as long as i work on it and pierce the deceptions with succes i could inform the world about it.
Because the Spastic Shaking on the couch had everything to do with the realization of a destiny for humanity so grimm that no one could bear it and in a lot of way's that's true.

I thought you know what i call my channel ? WeAreONEbigFamily ! and i will work as hard as i can to play as a referee between all races , religions , conflicts and justice or at least try ! Its hard to keep everybody as a friend especially when they can't handle the truth.
I have had thousands of attacks and discussions , also dealing with the Cointelpro jew blamer wing , i think that was the hardest. I already gathered much good material to debunk the jew Blaming Conspiracy , and when those cointelpro's saw that , they went nuts (hahah) but then i would get the full blast and attack. Later i think they realized it was also better for their sake that the truth would come out , because they left me more and more alone , through my hard work and research they could never win the discusssions (hahah) , well i laugh now but back then i had major struggle to overcome them , some of them where just teasing me and keep me going , i blocked them eventually.


So i started to research as much aspects as i could to find the truth about it , so that would become a weapon for rightiousness.

As i made more and more progress (what counts for me as progress) i gathered all the work i done on my channel with the research in the description boxes.
I think i had to change it at least 5 times over ALL my video's.

bla bla bla

anyway , its still a bit of a mess and its pretty hard to keep up with all , i tell you its easy to forget.

I'm getting tired , sleep well haha

The clou of the story is that for my feeling i have been argueing with the whole world in a pretty save way (behind the screeeen) But NO bloodsheds !

anyway

I KNEW THAT IF THE WHOLE TRUTH WOULD COME OUT ON THE WEB THAT ALL THE PEOPLE COULD FIGHT OUT THEIR CONFLICTS IN A WAY WITHOUT BLOODSHED AND TESTOSTERON ! I STILL BELIEVE WE CAN ENLIGHTEN THE WHOLE WORLD WITH TRUTH AND THAT ON A CERTAIN DAY WE COULD WALK OUT OF THE DOOR AND EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT WAS SOLVED ! :jaw:

But reality shows that we have to really take action and that has to happen in the collective. And for the collective to happen all the deception has to go otherwise we all will NEVER agree ! The TOP of this world are so full of themselfs that they would like to see most of us DEAD ! and that's no joke.

That's why i'm so direct , so exuse me , its being well ment and also to save time , i'm completely into that mode !

Have a good sleep all.

Chester
10th December 2012, 00:54
what is YT?

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 00:58
what is YT?

Are you serious ?!! Or are you joking :)

YOU TUBE

Vitalux
10th December 2012, 00:59
Um....thank you for sharing that with us....not fully sure what you are talking about but....:confused:

All i can tell you, is for me, I find metamucil tends to help ease things for me when I find I feel a bit bound up.

Chester
10th December 2012, 01:13
what is YT?

Are you serious ?!! Or are you joking :)

YOU TUBE

Apologies... I thought that perhaps based on how well organized your post was that YT might have actually been some new designer drug I wasn't yet aware of. Just joking - but honestly, I never connected that dot.

By the way, I love the Netherlands. Have lots of Dutch friends too. Amsterdam is one of my top 10 favorite cities. Take Care Chester

Fred Steeves
10th December 2012, 01:22
I KNEW THAT IF THE WHOLE TRUTH WOULD COME OUT ON THE WEB THAT ALL THE PEOPLE COULD FIGHT OUT THEIR CONFLICTS IN A WAY WITHOUT BLOODSHED AND TESTOSTERON ! I STILL BELIEVE WE CAN ENLIGHTEN THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT ON A CERTAIN DAY WE COULD WALK OUT OF THE DOOR AND EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT WAS SOLVED ! :jaw:


And then it slowly dawns on us, that it's not going to happen like that...Doesn't it?

Because at this point we are pretty similar to a near drowning victim to speak figuratively, who through no seeming fault of their own finds themselves resurfacing with a fresh breath of air.

The obvious question is now what? This is the magic moment, and it's also where the journey truly begins.

Of course this is just my opinion WeAreONEbigFamily, what do you think?

By the way, welcome to Avalon!!!

DarMar
10th December 2012, 01:25
what is YT?

Young Terrorist? :)

Anchor
10th December 2012, 01:55
WAOBF: good job!

lookbeyond
10th December 2012, 02:12
Hi WAOBF thankyou for your post.I have also experienced some moments of horror on my journey thru the various off shoots in the rabbit hole. When it gets overwhelming- take a break, look around in the spirituality threads and regroup, and then as others have responded to me-live from the heart, more and more every day and see what happens.
Take care, lookbeyond- hey btw i didnt know what YT was either!- thought it may hav been another forum.

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 02:16
I KNEW THAT IF THE WHOLE TRUTH WOULD COME OUT ON THE WEB THAT ALL THE PEOPLE COULD FIGHT OUT THEIR CONFLICTS IN A WAY WITHOUT BLOODSHED AND TESTOSTERON ! I STILL BELIEVE WE CAN ENLIGHTEN THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT ON A CERTAIN DAY WE COULD WALK OUT OF THE DOOR AND EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT WAS SOLVED ! :jaw:


And then it slowly dawns on us, that it's not going to happen like that...Doesn't it?

Because at this point we are pretty similar to a near drowning victim to speak figuratively, who through no seeming fault of their own finds themselves resurfacing with a fresh breath of air.

The obvious question is now what? This is the magic moment, and it's also where the journey truly begins.

Of course this is just my opinion WeAreONEbigFamily, what do you think?

By the way, welcome to Avalon!!!

Well to give you the perfect answer on this is pretty hard , but if you will give me some time and space and if it would be discussed with skillfull down to earth people then something might be achieved.

I'm not alway's as bright , but i had some very good ideas in the past which have already been faded a way a bit i have to digg them up if you will

I don't want to accept that we are powerless , i think that if we all exactly know how things are ran , then the only thing that could stop it , is like William Cooper said , waking up Fast amounts of sleeping People , SHEOPLE !

I wouldn't dare to use that therm too much because you will get the opposite. haha

I think that the internet is truly still a good solution as long as we can use it combined with our own abilities to organize , therefor we need contacts , the better and more contacts one has the more can be organized.
All who agree on YT for example could alltogether send out the right informations so that it will be picked up by more and more people and it also wil grow so that even more people will see it.
For example if we could start a movement like Anonymous but then transparant and dosing just the right truths to get to the people interested in an instant. therfor you need the total truth which will be undeniable and right away connect all the dots.


I'm also thinking about thinking about musicians , films , video's , books , networking , uniting all the different layers of society with each other. , farmers with workers to provide enough food to prevent riots and other insane scenario's , organizing as much little groups as possible that will contribute , this process is also already in motion , but way too less , and what i noticed with Occupy for example that the protesters were coliding with the normal people , because the normal people were absolute not yet ready for it , Occupy was a hoax started by The jesuits through Lucis Trust !

we also could counter them exactly as their system works. Hierarchy , but then true hierarchy well deserved and responsible hierarchy , transparant no secrets and certain rules.

I recently noticed that there is a rumor that the United Nations wants to take over the world wide web and control it.
That could be the beginning of the end for internet (or its fearmongering)

Well i have to read tommorrow what i just shared with you , i'm too tired now to look at it objective , maybe tommoreow i will think , huh why did i say that haha , i have to overlook it again , i'm on my best after sleep

All by all there has to come a filter process so that every individual can make his own independant choice of what to do and what to support , let GOD decide if you will. Therefor its nescessary that the truth comes to all the people and we have the media against us that for sure.

William cooper wanted everybody to start his own media based on Documented facts and flood the nation with information.
He is right ! Everyone should start radio shows , newspapers , flyers , posters and create and avalange of truth which will destroy the liars spiritually

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 02:42
what is YT?

Young Terrorist? :)


eehm no sorry :)

ThePythonicCow
10th December 2012, 02:43
Um....thank you for sharing that with us....not fully sure what you are talking about but....:confused:
My speculative guess is that WeAreONEbigFamily is reacting to the dialog just a bit earlier on the thread The Bavarian Illuminati - Jesuit Adam Weishaupt (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52886-The-Bavarian-Illuminati-Jesuit-Adam-Weishaupt).

===

P.S. -- On second thought, given his comments in Post #10 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52916-My-Intuition-told-me-i-had-to-make-a-thread-and-explain-some-things-to-this-community&p=595830&viewfull=1#post595830) above, there is likely far more to this than that.

eaglespirit
10th December 2012, 03:25
But reality shows that we have to really take action and that has to happen in the collective. And for the collective to happen all the deception has to go otherwise we all will NEVER agree ! The TOP of this world are so full of themselves that they would like to see most of us DEAD ! and that's no joke.

That's why i'm so direct , so excuse me , its being well meant and also to save time , i'm completely into that mode !

Have a good sleep all.

Hi WeAreONEbigFamily...Wishing You Well and Welcome to Avalon : )

Many at Avalon are pretty aware of the deceit and deception and detestable doings of the factions of your research.

There are young and old members here...most of us are probably over the 4 decade mark.

What you are trying to do is commendable and about all of us here have full respect and honor for people like you that are making sincere and earnest efforts to help uncover matters and change things for the better once and for all.

Maybe take a day or so in here and search some of the topics in threads that relate to your own research and hard work.

Things are changing...and imho, many here are a big part of that change...for they are living it.

Look around and get to know us a bit : )

D-Day
10th December 2012, 04:04
Hello WeAreONEbigFamily, and welcome to Avalon!!


I think my approach is maybe a bit too direct and too harsh ?

Too direct or harsh?... nah, I don't think so.

A little 'assuming' and unintentionally condescending?... mmm, perhaps.

Please allow me to elaborate...


Now the issue here is that since i signed up i have thrown some hardcore truths about this world in to the group........which i think is nescessary for realizing the truth and exposing certain global conspiracy's that are in full force.

Now I could be wrong, but I suspect you may be underestimatnig the level of knowledge, experience, and experiese that some members here on this forum have when it comes to the kind of material you've been presenting.

I think you'll find that a lot of members have themselves spent years (or in some cases decades) researching and investigating such material - I can assure you that you're not on your own in that regard.

So, while you have clearly spent a great deal of time doing your own research (whcih is great), I think it would be wise for you to not assume that others here haven't also done the same.

To demonstrate my point, if you were to do some key word searchomg for old threads here on Avalon that relate to the stuff you've been posting I think you'll find that much of it has been discussed here before, at length, and in great detail.

Now, I'm not suggesting that the info you've been posting isn't valuable or of high quality, it's just that it's info that many here are well versed in and have been studying themselves for quite some time also.

And I'm not telling you this to be harsh or unnkind, so please don't take it the wrong way, I just wanted to bring to your attention the fact that you are in the company of some folks who've been "in the game" for a long time now.

Now, given the nature of the material that you seem to enjoy discussing and the amount of mis/disinfo that exists on it out there on the net, you can pretty much guarantee that there will be differences of opinion and perspecitve when it comes down to the nitty gritty aspects of discussing it.

Be aware that while you clearly have gathered many pieces of the jig-saw puzzle, that you probably haven't pieced together the entire picture yet - I don't think any of us have actually.

There will be folks here who have less pieces of the puzzle than you, some will have more pieces of the puzzle, and others will have different pieces of the puzzle.

That's just the nature of the beast, but what's imporant is that we don't judge others or assume anything about what they do or don't know... as this can only lead to people getting their backs up ;)

So, with that in mind, perhaps making a slight adjustment to your style/approach when presenting and discussing information on the forum might be helpful.

i.e. instead of presenting information as though it is absolute fact, perhaps presenting it as though you are simply 'throwing somethig into the mix' for others to consider, discuss, and/or debate, might be a better way to go?

In any case, like I said, please don't take this the wrong way, but rather as some friendly advice or "heads up" from someone who enjoys your posts and wants to see you stick around for a while :)

BTW - I should add that I respect and appreciate what you've been doing here since you joined... the world needs people like you who are passionate about the truth and bringing it to the forefront ;)

Keep up the good work WeAreONEbigFamily!!

markpierre
10th December 2012, 04:05
I KNEW THAT IF THE WHOLE TRUTH WOULD COME OUT ON THE WEB THAT ALL THE PEOPLE COULD FIGHT OUT THEIR CONFLICTS IN A WAY WITHOUT BLOODSHED AND TESTOSTERON ! I STILL BELIEVE WE CAN ENLIGHTEN THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT ON A CERTAIN DAY WE COULD WALK OUT OF THE DOOR AND EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT WAS SOLVED ! :jaw:


And then it slowly dawns on us, that it's not going to happen like that...Doesn't it?

Because at this point we are pretty similar to a near drowning victim to speak figuratively, who through no seeming fault of their own finds themselves resurfacing with a fresh breath of air.

The obvious question is now what? This is the magic moment, and it's also where the journey truly begins.

Of course this is just my opinion WeAreONEbigFamily, what do you think?

By the way, welcome to Avalon!!!

Love it Fred. I use that analogy a lot. If we can keep drowning figurative and don't get too frightened of it.
That fresh bit of air wasn't the solution. Still lost at sea, no life jacket, can't tread water forever.
What's the only one single thing that will change the situation? That first big breath of water.
Big decision. When does any single identity make it? Choosing nothing doesn't change the choices, or the outcome.
Trust the ocean.

To the OP.

Something a lot more interesting and dynamic is going on than discovering the obvious. The government doesn't love you, the banker isn't your friend,
and the cops aren't there to protect you. That was the content. You found that out because you're waking up. That was the context.
You got get preoccupied with the content. Don't worry about it, it's about waking up.

Now waking up is the content. Who it is that's waking up is the context. Don't get preoccupied with the content.
If you do, don't worry about it. You''ll still be you.

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 04:28
Hello WeAreONEbigFamily, and welcome to Avalon!!


I think my approach is maybe a bit too direct and too harsh ?

Too direct or harsh?... nah, I don't think so.

A little 'assuming' and unintentionally condescending?... mmm, perhaps.

Please allow me to elaborate...


Now the issue here is that since i signed up i have thrown some hardcore truths about this world in to the group........which i think is nescessary for realizing the truth and exposing certain global conspiracy's that are in full force.

Now I could be wrong, but I suspect you may be underestimatnig the level of knowledge, experience, and experiese that some members here on this forum have when it comes to the kind of material you've been presenting.

I think you'll find that a lot of members have themselves spent years (or in some cases decades) researching and investigating such material - I can assure you that you're not on your own in that regard.

So, while you have clearly spent a great deal of time doing your own research (whcih is great), I think it would be wise for you to not assume that others here haven't also done the same.

To demonstrate my point, if you were to do some key word searchomg for old threads here on Avalon that relate to the stuff you've been posting I think you'll find that much of it has been discussed here before, at length, and in great detail.

Now, I'm not suggesting that the info you've been posting isn't valuable or of high quality, it's just that it's info that many here are well versed in and have been studying themselves for quite some time also.

And I'm not telling you this to be harsh or unnkind, so please don't take it the wrong way, I just wanted to bring to your attention the fact that you are in the company of some folks who've been "in the game" for a long time now.

Now, given the nature of the material that you seem to enjoy discussing and the amount of mis/disinfo that exists on it out there on the net, you can pretty much guarantee that there will be differences of opinion and perspecitve when it comes down to the nitty gritty aspects of discussing it.

Be aware that while you clearly have gathered many pieces of the jig-saw puzzle, that you probably haven't pieced together the entire picture yet - I don't think any of us have actually.

There will be folks here who have less pieces of the puzzle than you, some will have more pieces of the puzzle, and others will have different pieces of the puzzle.

That's just the nature of the beast, but what's imporant is that we don't judge others or assume anything about what they do or don't know... as this can only lead to people getting their backs up ;)

So, with that in mind, perhaps making a slight adjustment to your style/approach when presenting and discussing information on the forum might be helpful.

i.e. instead of presenting information as though it is absolute fact, perhaps presenting it as though you are simply 'throwing somethig into the mix' for others to consider, discuss, and/or debate, might be a better way to go?

In any case, like I said, please don't take this the wrong way, but rather as some friendly advice or "heads up" from someone who enjoys your posts and wants to see you stick around for a while :)

BTW - I should add that I respect and appreciate what you've been doing here since you joined... the world needs people like you who are passionate about the truth and bringing it to the forefront ;)

Keep up the good work WeAreONEbigFamily!!

Thank you for the wise words , i needed that.
Yes your right i feel a bit on my own in certain issues and indeed i also don't know what is already being researched and taken as facts., but as you said about the Puzzle pieces , i would love to see them come together , who not !

I disagree with tyou to say to me that i should just throw something in the mix .
Look i do am humble , but i like to workwith the things that i DO know for sure and can be taken as FACTS. (I'm used to work from the top to bottom , that's why i'm stil missing a lot of details but it has helped a great deal to see the bigger picture)
In that way we will be spared dead end streets where we lose time assuming and discussing.
Don't get me wrong its not my intention to be the one that is going to cause commotion , but if it happens then it will happen , right ? You ease my mind a bit and i would love to discuss some more with you.

I see still a LOT of deceptions going on on the website , so that worries me !

Hey i don't want to step on anyone his toes without a reason , and if it happens the reason has to be rightious and for the benefit of the whole. So i'm afraid that there will be more frustrations and / or conflicts. This is inevitable when we truly want to boost to the truth. Because certain elements just have to be get out of the way !



Oh and i do have a high expectation from this site , i know many people here are very intelligent !

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 04:37
I KNEW THAT IF THE WHOLE TRUTH WOULD COME OUT ON THE WEB THAT ALL THE PEOPLE COULD FIGHT OUT THEIR CONFLICTS IN A WAY WITHOUT BLOODSHED AND TESTOSTERON ! I STILL BELIEVE WE CAN ENLIGHTEN THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT ON A CERTAIN DAY WE COULD WALK OUT OF THE DOOR AND EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT WAS SOLVED ! :jaw:


And then it slowly dawns on us, that it's not going to happen like that...Doesn't it?

Because at this point we are pretty similar to a near drowning victim to speak figuratively, who through no seeming fault of their own finds themselves resurfacing with a fresh breath of air.

The obvious question is now what? This is the magic moment, and it's also where the journey truly begins.

Of course this is just my opinion WeAreONEbigFamily, what do you think?

By the way, welcome to Avalon!!!

Love it Fred. I use that analogy a lot. If we can keep drowning figurative and don't get too frightened of it.
That fresh bit of air wasn't the solution. Still lost at sea, no life jacket, can't tread water forever.
What's the only one single thing that will change the situation? That first big breath of water.
Big decision. When does any single identity make it? Choosing nothing doesn't change the choices, or the outcome.
Trust the ocean.

To the OP.

Something a lot more interesting and dynamic is going on than discovering the obvious. The government doesn't love you, the banker isn't your friend,
and the cops aren't there to protect you. That was the content. You found that out because you're waking up. That was the context.
You got get preoccupied with the content. Don't worry about it, it's about waking up.

Now waking up is the content. Who it is that's waking up is the context. Don't get preoccupied with the content.
If you do, don't worry about it. You''ll still be you.

Thanks for the reaction , not even sure if you adressed it to me or to Fred , anyway , i agree partly with you.
Sure , rest and feeling the intuition and the connection to the universe is a very important one .


But are you actually saying there is a process going through the universe and these day's in time that wil automatically wake the world up , is that what your saying here?

But what if it its all a lie and all propaganda (agenda) created by the world top ?
Then what ?
Waiting for a miracle to happen ?
I think IF this is an agenda of the world top then its THEM who have triggered these changes and feeded it with as much BS and fairytale stories as they could which now many many people put their hope in , have you ever looked at it this way ?

Because if it would be true , then again we all are in serious trouble.

I would suggest that WE find out exactly what their agenda's are and to do that we simply have to expose those who are working for them and then study that material to find out what they are really upto.

Analizing if you will and a lot has already been done by others.

Chester
10th December 2012, 04:48
WeAreONEbigFamily - consider reviewing some of this thread -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit

If you put a little time and effort into it, you'll learn the difference between "the Alien Hoax" (which is also known as Project Blue Beam) and what I referred to as the "alien phenomena" which covers many sub components, one being Demonology and the practice of Satanic Ritual Abuse and Human (and animal) Sacrifice and according to many accounts connects directly to your favorite boogeyman, the lovely Vatican.

When you have done a bit more of this homework, you'll get an idea as to the advancement of much of the membership of this forum.

You are already one of us as your membership has been accepted (that's a good thing and we are very glad you are here) - just check out a little more about where many of us might be at before you decide most of us don't have much of a clue... just a friendly suggestion, Chester

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 04:52
WeAreONEbigFamily - consider reviewing some of this thread - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit

If you put a little time and effort into it, you'll learn the difference between "the Alien Hoax" (which is also known as Project Blue Beam) and what I referred to as the "alien phenomena" which covers many sub components, one being Demonology and the practice of Satanic Ritual Abuse and Human (and animal) Sacrifice and according to many accounts connects directly to your favorite boogeyman, the lovely Vatican.

When you have done a bit more of this homework, you'll get an idea as to the advancement of much of the membership of this forum.

You are already one of us as your membership has been accepted (that's a good thing and we are very glad you are here) - just check out a little more about where many of us might be at before you decide most of us don't have much of a clue... just a friendly suggestion, Chester

thx that's very kind of you (LOL?) haha , oh oooo what are you dragging me into here ?:scared:

Here a scary counter back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL01f-m9a10

markpierre
10th December 2012, 04:58
Thanks for the reaction , not even sure if you adressed it to me or to Fred , anyway , i agree partly with you.
Sure , rest and feeling the intuition and the connection to the universe is a very important one , BUT ...oh ooo]

That the Governement doesn't loves us and That The banker isn't our friend , that i knew , there are other things that upset me more. I see hords of people still having not a clou ! I see hords of people being lead into dead end streets , i see hords of people being lead right into the slaughter , i see also fortunally people really waking up.

My point is here that if we al support each other , then we can succeed in speeding up the process !That can save a lot of lives ! I;m very well aware that we can't save all , never in our lives , its just too big too massive for that , but when we discovered and analyzed certain agenda's that are yet to happen , we still could try and prevent it from happening i strongly believe that is possible , don't ask me yet how , but i just know its possible .

Nah, you didn't get it, but that's okay. I don't feel like explaining it. It's more content anyway, not worth laboring over. Someone gets it. I do.
And I did get your point. I think you're doing everything you can do, which is lovely. Probably not even necessary. We can't not support each other,
regardless of appearances. If it appears like it's not working in support, you've forgotten the context. Up is the only direction there is. It's confusing because it's a spiral.
You think your looking linearly because it's the only training you've been given, But you can't see what's around and above a spiral from a point on the spiral.
Cheers, and keep posting. Good stuff.

ThePythonicCow
10th December 2012, 05:06
I see still a LOT of deceptions going on on the website , so that worries me !
If the other forum members, or moderators, knew what was true and what was deception with a high degree of confidence, we could just dismiss or remove the deceptions.

But we don't know entirely, nor always with high confidence.

So we share, we discuss, we learn, we contribute, and we come to various conclusions, based in part on our various talents, experiences, and interests.

That means we also each see stuff go by that we're sure is crap. But we limit the amount of effort we spend trying to eliminate what we know is crap, because (1) sometimes we're wrong, and (2) too much conflict within the forum distracts from and obscures the more important truths that we seek together.

Some weeding of the garden is necessary. But too much focus on the weeds distracts from the tending of the more valued plants.

Rocky_Shorz
10th December 2012, 05:16
our silence is wisdom...

you are in footsteps we have all walked, stories we've all known, but what level you are looking at as trouble, we've gone behind to see who is pulling their strings...

sometimes the bad guys are in projects you would consider good, it's like they change hats, but the public figures are just that "public"

here, there are those who have met with ET's, whistle-blowers that have dove into the shadow government, the city that controls the world from an ancient club...

their favorite joke, is spinning tales about others to get them in trouble with the hounds chasing down the rabbit holes

you are in the company of God's when it comes to Science, Spirituality and Conspiracies...

we may be quiet some times, but when you get hit by our first nugget and climb up off the floor wondering what hit you...


then you'll know, you are part of Avalon...


The Captain of this ship is Bill, he is surrounded by an incredible crew...


choppy water ahead, better grab a mop and bucket... ;)


Welcome aboard!!!

Dorjezigzag
10th December 2012, 05:18
that i was litturally Spastic shaking on the couch for at least 15 minutes ! Al kinds of enormous doomscenarios came to my mind

You are hilarious I love your energy, ;)

Rocky_Shorz
10th December 2012, 05:44
that i was litturally Spastic shaking on the couch for at least 15 minutes ! Al kinds of enormous doomscenarios came to my mind

You are hilarious I love your energy, ;)

yeah I loved that too, first rule of survival in Conspiracies is keeping a sense of humor so you don't go nuts...

we've been waiting for the banks to collapse, a hidden star to appear to tear our planet appart, with little green Geckos ready to take over the world...

we've spotted all the underground bunkers the elite are going to hop in and let the rest of us face what's coming... we have our blowtorches handy to seal them in... ;)

soo many many years of waiting for tomorrows doomsday, that never comes...

we all remember the first time running down the street telling the world the sky was falling...

Bill and Kerry started Camelot, it was a gathering of all of us, every day gulping down the fear porn, heart pounding forehead sweating... this is it, we're toast stories...

when Bill got to the point he was spending more time answering all of our freaked out emails, he started a forum we could ask questions, and have experts on the subjects appear and share their knowledge...

most importantly it was a place for all of us to gather as friends...


we can bring up any subject here and not get laughed off the forum, some might chuckle and say Rocky's lost it again, but they're all nice about it...


We know what it is like not having any friends you can talk wiht on these subjects, but what is really cool, is the day someone around you wakes up and you know everything about it...


they may have thought you nuts when it first came up, but then it hits them, if you are an expert on that, does that mean all the other stuff is true too...


it's a beautiful thing, and it will happen to you...

sigma6
10th December 2012, 10:17
there's far too much to respond to, but I have to admit I had to have a good hearted laugh... at some of the responses (and not laughing at you Onefamily) I just see a lot of myself in your earnestness, and in your experiences... brings back memories... so in that regard welcome to the 'family' ... like in the matrix, you are experiencing a little blurriness seeing, because this is the first time you have really used your 'eyes'... (it is a daunting world out there isn't it... believe me you are just at the beginning! ;-)

Here is all I can offer right now... my intuition tells me that you are young, and very intelligent, and full of a prodigious amount of energy, perhaps even athletically inclined, and you may be inexperienced in this new found knowledge of yours, but don't despair, I think you are a truth seeker, and unusually serious minded for your age, no doubt that you may feel alienated, but consider this, I see in you a lot of potential. I see you stepping onto a new path, one that you are not familiar with, and it is causing you great anxiety. It is making your mind race.

My advice:
I would say continue on your path. I would even suggest in your case to slow your thoughts down, calm your mind, (you will accomplish more!)
Have no doubt there will be many, many days to 'fight' this good fight, there is no rush (that is an illusion, no matter how real it feels right now, even when everything feels like it is spinning out of control, I do 'get it') My heart goes out to all the young people today, because I know that I certainly would not be able to deal with it at all (given the way I was when I was younger... lol) Consider that less is more, break things down finer, look closely at what you see, ask yourself "do you really see the whole thing? if you are honest, you will see that 'the picture' is always bigger then you know, there is always more to add, that is how it is with most of us here... ie. the realization that this knowledge is a journey, like education it doesn't end, you don't stop eating, sleeping, growing ... and you don't stop learning... you don't stop developing yourself... it doesn't end til you die...

Relax your mind, know that you are not alone, there are many of us here, that are having an honest chuckle (am I right?!) because we see a little bit of ourselves (at earlier stages) in you... I have to admit it was 'refreshing' to read your posts, I was chuckling, but once I realized you were sincere it was refreshing... sincerity is a virtue, don't ever lose sight of that, I like your keen sense to be able to see that all is not on the up and up on this site (and I would have to agree with you) again you are very intelligent, and never be afraid to express your opinion, that's why you are here, to contribute your thoughts and learn from others, so if you earnestly believe something, stick to your guns, contrary to what others might suggest to you, But of course the corollary is there as well... don't be afraid to be wrong either (you will learn more and will avoid getting caught in the trap of denial hypocrisy) And don't worry, others see what you see too, we know it is there, sometimes it is ego, sometimes it is denial, sometimes it is prejudice, sometimes it is ignorance, power tripping (control freaks) and finally I sometimes even surmise that there are people actually trying to subvert truth intentionally on this site by trying to misdirect others from speaking their truth through various means. Therefore never say "never" (ie. stay loose and free and roll with it) Keep your powder dry. You are going to have to look at each situation and make up your own mind. I think you are going to do fine.

And lastly consider the difference between knowledge and wisdom, when you are young and full of that energy and fire, use it to fill your mind with all the knowledge you can, because believe me as you get older, the rope is harder to climb as you get closer to the top. But that is when you start to develop wisdom, the ability to use your knowledge in ways that you never thought of before... the ability to get more done with less resources, to understand things in more depth with the same knowledge, experience teaches you how to connect more dots, and thus 'see' more... now that is wisdom...

Good luck in your research, I think you are going to really enjoy what you find in here... Now that is said, understand that I am just speaking my mind, it is just my feelings, my opinions, I trust them and I stand by them, and I will defend them, but they are just my opinions at the end of the day, that's the secret here, NO ONE has a monopoly on truth here, it is just something I strive toward each day. Keep on exercising your understanding of what is truth. I see you doing this already. Good for you!

peace

markpierre
10th December 2012, 12:58
My point is here that if we al support each other , then we can succeed in speeding up the process !That can save a lot of lives ! I;m very well aware that we can't save all , never in our lives , its just too big too massive for that , but when we discovered and analyzed certain agenda's that are yet to happen , we still could try and prevent it from happening i strongly believe that is possible , don't ask me yet how , but i just know its possible .

I wanted to address this comment in your thread earlier, just didn't have time or patience in the moment. Not with you, with me. Big big day for me.
But this is an issue for me as well, and I wanted to learn what I'd have to say about it. What I said earlier was too cryptic, and too something it feels like
I'm expected to produce. Everybody likes it when they get me, but don't like it when they don't. It becomes a game with me and sometimes I don't like it,
but mostly my post to you was just incomplete.
I'm doing the same thing as you, in opening up just a little bit more of the channels that connect us with the other guy. Both their channels and our own.
Not like a plumber, though you can never know which or whose pipe the pressure is on. but like a friend who wants to get it done.

I have tools and techniques for that, but really it's more fun and filling than the fun of using tools, so I don't bother. You just test your own mind and watch yourself react through all the others here because it's getting weird to get 'out there' anymore, at least for now. It's a good venue. There are a potential of thousands of people who look at what you've said, and if one single channel is open to receive that information, then you've done your job. Job done.

If you can hear it yourself, then you're not a single awakened mind in a crowd, you're a healer. You're a leader. You've become the example. And then you find the examples all around you, previously completely innocuous and almost invisible, because now you can see.
Like you've been looking up for God or missiles, instead of the world around you and the God in you. The world is you, playing out as an image. That's all those cool scientific threads. Good information to remember.

It's the same thing when you're dead. You're just making 'you' around you all the time, no matter what condition your mind is in. Right now your mind is still kind of still unwell, because you're still out there looking and looking for an answer.
Me too. It doesn't stop until it's done. That's what human mind is designed to do, solve problems. And so it creates problems to solve.
Even if the problem is something like 'how are we going to murder most of the resident humans and get the gold into the underground bases, nuke the world or however, and still make it into the guts of the world in time to catch 'Dancing With the Stars?'. Mind creating a problem and enacting a solution. That mind will never stop doing that, even in a 'Golden Age'.
That mind has to end, and a new mind take over.
An unlearned mind. Empty of the garbage of the old one. That's what being 'born again' is. That's what they mean, they just don't know it.

I 'learned' how to channel and I 'learned' how to read and I 'learned' how ask for guidance for whomever.
I 'learned' how to heal, and I 'learned' how to give up, and I did all those things. But that's not the real gift.The real gift was me.
I learned about my self that way, and then I arrived in increments, and now I'd like to trust that soon (because I'm so 'over it') I will arrive to stay.
It has to happen sometime, so why not soon? 21st? hell, who knows? I don't care. I'll have a good day.

What you want, and what 'they' want and what you want for them, is the joy that's gone missing, and the peace and the certainty and the freedom of all that
that you FEEL is missing.
See, there's that word, FREEDOM, but in such a different context. I want that for you. And you and you and you.
But you can't have it, until you understand that it can't be taken away again, even if the planet is on fire. You won't know that until you see it working.

With that, and I promise you this, is the power to face anything, because anything might happen. The right thing has to happen for the purpose of that freedom.
That freedom is your natural condition. Can you feel it? Then you still need some healing. And don't worry, because I know that that can happen often,
and will continue to often happen in quantum ways. Like 'in the blink of an eye'. I'd say even less than the blink of an eye.
I still need healing too, and I've learned to relish it. Every greatest fear is there in line to greet you.
Sometimes you're so different that you can't even recognize yourself for a while.

Everyone is like that. They don't know when they're changing. Some are, some are more, then more and it gets faster and the whole of the human association
that's REAL, gets real. And by the evidence, that's a pretty small crowd. That's the hardest part for me to get, and I needed proof, and so I began meeting people
who at a glance were there, but if I looked, there was nothing there. I'd never realized, because I'd never looked.
Not like sheep, but more like dummies. No pun intended.

And maybe that's just a way to disengage from the lost ones, a physiological trick. But I've been assured that it's true. You can't wake up what isn't real.
It's a prop, and it's placed there for you.
You can't take on responsibility that isn't yours, and make that passage yourself. You have to pass through it first, because part of what holds the fabric
of the world together as it is in your eyes, is your reluctance to let go of it, and also your love of the past. It's certainly worth loving. We had a lot of fun and gratification fighting battles and winning wars and stealing the women and burning the towns and we just got carried away. Now we stop it. In ourselves.

Do you remember the story when God told Lot not to look back? I never wondered about the esoteric value of salt, but I did recognize in Lot's wife,
that we all have that weakness. Everyone else in his group were just $hit scared, but she just wanted to make sure. She doubted.
That's not wrong, to us that's normal. But that was her weakness.

That temptation to stay in illusion. It was home for a long time. The illusions start with the frauds around us, but they go far far deeper into our own minds.
It isn't just fear, and we're routing it out. We're also discovering that long lost treasure, ourselves. Behind where fear had buried it.

In healing you learn and sometimes reluctantly (and usually the hard way, and sometimes the hard way over and over), that all the power you think you're wielding
isn't really yours. It's not the power you'd envy, but the kind you can never really feel qualified to manage. You don't believe that you're responsible,
but you're afraid that you are, and that you have to know something that you're always pretty sure you don't, or missed in the instructions somewhere.

You're really only doing it because no one else is willing. or maybe it's just your turn. It's not hard or unnatural for anyone. But, and so, you're also not responsible for the outcome.They might die. I haven't experienced that yet, except for once. The cancer disappeared from the left side of the brain, and immediately developed on the right side.
The reasoning evaluating side of the brain gave up on a task, but the right side took back the experience of dying. Don't mess with anyone's intuitional side of their brain.
That outcome wasn't my choice because she was my ex mother in-law and I adored her. Most gorgeous little Irish woman, almost like a leprechaun.
But I also on a more insidious level wanted to prove to my ex-wife that I could do that. Not because I was angry at her, but because it's painful to be viewed for less that what you are. I thought still that I had something to do with the outcome.
Not a bad motive, but the one in myself that I was healing in the process. After that I studied my motives, but also admitted that I can't know what's ever really happening, and what's needed for it to happen.
Lovely Rita took 5 more years to die of brain cancer. That was a long deep 'impacting on everyone' process of intense introspection. They all got a lot done. It was amazing and beautiful, and all the pain that needed to flowed through it, and through and out of everyone. We should all be so lucky.

But to get away from that allegory, whatever picture you paint of a future, that 'outcome' and the solutions to get there, won't be true. It will become a cap on whatever is possible that will be true.
It can become true without you, and you don't want that. You want to see and understand and appreciate everything about it. You want to be present, not lost in the solutions. Not yet.
The solutions will come, but because the mind will have ceased making problems. That's your mind. Take that very personally.

I don't know if that's from too left field to be a benefit to you in your own quest or not. Maybe like a window on a different side of the room that opens,
and suggests that this thing you're looking at has sides you hadn't noticed. You've definitely nailed the glyphs that are on your side of the stone. I don't
remember them, or haven't seen them so I need your support in reminding me. See? And that's all we're doing as a collective.

If you feel frustrated with what's around you, it can only be because you can't see the whole story, and you're engaged in only a part of it.
Me too. I'm in the same boat. We do this awakening in ourselves, but we do it through each other. You must be doing your job in it.
Slowly as we move around the stone, we see all the sides and all the glyphs and the story tells itself.
It's the confrontation unaware of the conclusion that's scary. You know how they say you create from what you feel, not from what you're thinking.
We change that feeling from fearful to clean and empowered in a very compassionate way.

I didn't channel that or it wasn't guided or anything weird. I just said what I was thinking over that last bit of your post, about making something happen.
You/we already are. It already is. Just try for a moment withdrawing that sense of responsibility and replace it with trust. Or we call it trust. It's really acquiescence.
It's the same thing as surrender. A very high spiritual attainment if you care about that stuff. Not hard to do, just not the obvious thing to do. The responsibility is just redirected fear still.
Depending on the smaller self with the narrower vision to get it done. You still only want to get it done. You can still be wrong, you can still be guilty. You're not wrong and you're never guilty.
You can relax and not rely on a limited view. But I mean don't compromise trust, if even for a moment. You're sliding down the rock, just bit by bit so the bottom of the gorge is still a quarter mile away.
You ask "will it hurt?" You bet it will. You're letting go of everything you know.
Do that until you can feel what it feels like. With that extra bit of freedom, you'd be surprised what more you'll just find yourself doing.

Hey that was long, not my intention. Just wanted to share with a fellow escapee some insights on the woods at night in the dark. I sense in you a really good strong focused mind, that's really useful.
Focus can be used in any direction.

You take care.

Snookie
10th December 2012, 15:53
Very indepth post Markpiere, much appreciated...just a small correction, it was Lot's wife who took the gander back & was turned into a pillar of salt.

eaglespirit
10th December 2012, 16:23
Beautiful Markpierre, in the 'wonder' of it all! We're getting there, from here!

Thank You with All My Heart!

imho..what You shared is introspective for everybody everywhere doing what they can do to make things right!

markpierre
10th December 2012, 17:18
Very indepth post Markpiere, much appreciated...just a small correction, it was Lot's wife who took the gander back & was turned into a pillar of salt.

Haha, yes thanks. An appreciated correction. That revelation was from long ago, I'm even forgetting those.

Maia Gabrial
10th December 2012, 18:19
Just remember that TPTW want to keep you (and all of us) in constant turmoil so they can control the collective consciousness. You can't control them, but you can control your emotions. You sound just like me, WeAreONEbigFamily. We care about our fellow beings because it bothers us that these monsters have gotten away with so much. As long as you stay in constant emotional turmoil you will never raise your frequencies. While your anger is justified, still, it's not good for you. Anger doesn't open your heart which you definitely need to raise your vibes. Just remember that no one can MAKE you get mad; only you allow that to happen. Think on positive changes as much as possible because your thoughts are REAL!

One thing that has helped me in all of this is trying to understand the atrocities from my Higher Self's perspective. We don't understand the grander picture because we don't have the whole picture. If we did, then nothing would upset us.... Take heart (pun intended :becky:) that we'll understand it all better soon enough.... I'm one of those people who believes that Dec 21st is the real deal.... And we and our world will transform....

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 18:55
I see still a LOT of deceptions going on on the website , so that worries me !
If the other forum members, or moderators, knew what was true and what was deception with a high degree of confidence, we could just dismiss or remove the deceptions.

But we don't know entirely, nor always with high confidence.

So we share, we discuss, we learn, we contribute, and we come to various conclusions, based in part on our various talents, experiences, and interests.

That means we also each see stuff go by that we're sure is crap. But we limit the amount of effort we spend trying to eliminate what we know is crap, because (1) sometimes we're wrong, and (2) too much conflict within the forum distracts from and obscures the more important truths that we seek together.

Some weeding of the garden is necessary. But too much focus on the weeds distracts from the tending of the more valued plants.

Right ! well thank you very much i'm glad to hear that your truly want the truth, actually your giving me the green light here to make my points.

Ok well lets say this , you all might wonder why i am so fixated on The Vatican incl. its Secret Organizations.
I'm not drooling from the dark occult , infact i despise it.
The reason i dive into the pits of hell is to find out who is doing what and who is actually responsible for certain agenda's.
To understand these agenda's and its consequences we have to study True History , because only by studying true history we will be able to connect the dots and see the simularities. Its rather a very interesting path because here everything will come together , it will form infact one of the greatest stories ever when its complete enough.
But its not about creating a nice story , that's something that comes with it.

The goal of exposing as much deceptions as we can will contribute to bring people from a dead trail into the truth again this will be highly important for the outcome of our final decisions in our lives.

Look i have not succeeded yet in getting all false prophets visible , but i surely made a start.
There is a method to do it.
We have to check out all the agenda's (i say All but lets say the most important ones) that the Society of Jesus / Knighthoods / High Level Freemasonry has been creating and then try to find out who is serving these agenda's (Knowingly OR unknowingly) , that's all there is to it. It will amaze you but it will also frustrate you if you already put hope in such people or events , so this is going to be confrontating for a lot of people.

My excuse for that , but we have to do it and i sincerely hope that some of you will support me in this process as for i'm convinced that together we can do this.

And another thing , sometimes it will be hard to actually PROOF if someone is truly consciously deceiving many or not but the more watchers the more clou's
So please be patient and keep an open mind. I think honesty is the key here and i think we have to pile up the knowledge and facts of all of you to get a good result , as i told you that i have spend much time in unraveling the true top of world control and how it all operates and i will alway's ask myself if i have done enough....but maybe this issue here could give it a positive boost that will also depend on the forum members.

Please forgive me if i again think i'm the only one who is up to this trail.

What shall i do , make a thread on this ? because i already have some work ready which i could share with you.

WeAreONEbigFamily
10th December 2012, 19:46
My point is here that if we al support each other , then we can succeed in speeding up the process !That can save a lot of lives ! I;m very well aware that we can't save all , never in our lives , its just too big too massive for that , but when we discovered and analyzed certain agenda's that are yet to happen , we still could try and prevent it from happening i strongly believe that is possible , don't ask me yet how , but i just know its possible .


I wanted to address this comment in your thread earlier, just didn't have time or patience in the moment. Not with you, with me. Big big day for me.
But this is an issue for me as well, and I wanted to learn what I'd have to say about it. What I said earlier was too cryptic, and too something it feels like
I'm expected to produce. Everybody likes it when they get me, but don't like it when they don't. It becomes a game with me and sometimes I don't like it,
but mostly my post to you was just incomplete.
I'm doing the same thing as you, in opening up just a little bit more of the channels that connect us with the other guy. Both their channels and our own.
Not like a plumber, though you can never know which or whose pipe the pressure on on. but like a friend.

I have tools and techniques for that, but really it's more fun and filling than the fun of using tools, so I don't bother. You just test your own mind and watch yourself react through all the others here because it's getting weird to get 'out there' anymore, at least for now. It's a good venue. There are a potential of thousands of people who look at what you've said, and if one single channel is open to receive that information, then you've done your job. Job done.

If you can hear it yourself, then you're not a single awakened mind in a crowd, you're a healer. You're a leader. You've become the example. And then you find the examples all around you, previously completely innocuous and almost invisible, because now you can see.
Like you've been looking up for God or missiles, instead of the world around you and the God in you. The world is you, playing out as an image. That's all those cool scientific threads. Good information to remember.

It's the same thing when you're dead. You're just making 'you' around you all the time, no matter what condition your mind is in. Right now your mind is still kind of still unwell, because you're still out there looking and looking for an answer.
Me too. It doesn't stop until it's done. That's what human mind is designed to do, solve problems. And so it creates problems to solve.
Even if the problem is something like 'how are we going to murder most of the resident humans and get the gold into the underground bases, nuke the world or however, and still make it into the guts of the world in time to catch 'Dancing With the Stars?'. Mind creating a problem and enacting a solution. That mind will never stop doing that, even in a 'Golden Age'.
That mind has to end, and a new mind take over.
An unlearned mind. Empty of the garbage of the old one. That's what being 'born again' is. That's what they mean, they just don't know it.

I 'learned' how to channel and I 'learned' how to read and I 'learned' how ask for guidance for whomever.
I 'learned' how to heal, and I 'learned' how to give up, and I did all those things. But that's not the real gift.The real gift was me.
I learned about my self that way, and then I arrived in increments, and now I'd like to trust that soon (because I'm so 'over it') I will arrive to stay.
It has to happen sometime, so why not soon? 21st? hell, who knows? I don't care. I'll have a good day.

What you want, and what 'they' want and what you want for them, is the joy that's gone missing, and the peace and the certainty and the freedom of all that
that you FEEL is missing.
See, there's that word, FREEDOM, but in such a different context. I want that for you. And you and you and you.
But you can't have it, until you understand that it can't be taken away again, even if the planet is on fire. You won't know that until you see it working.

With that, and I promise you this, is the power to face anything, because anything might happen. The right thing has to happen for the purpose of that freedom.
That freedom is your natural condition. Can you feel it? Then you still need some healing. And don't worry, because I know that that can happen often,
and will continue to often happen in quantum ways. Like 'in the blink of an eye'. I'd say even less than the blink of an eye.
I still need healing too, and I've learned to relish it. Every greatest fear is there in line to greet you.
Sometimes you're so different that you can't even recognize yourself for a while.

Everyone is like that. They don't know when they're changing. Some are, some are more, then more and it gets faster and the whole of the human association
that's REAL, gets real. And by the evidence, that's a pretty small crowd. That's the hardest part for me to get, and I needed proof, and so I began meeting people
who at a glance were there, but if I looked, there was nothing there. I'd never realized, because I'd never looked.
Not like sheep, but more like dummies. No pun intended.

And maybe that's just a way to disengage from the lost ones, a physiological trick. But I've been assured that it's true. You can't wake up what isn't real.
It's a prop, and it's placed there for you.
You can't take on responsibility that isn't yours, and make that passage yourself. You have to pass through it first, because part of what holds the fabric
of the world together as it is in your eyes, is your reluctance to let go of it, and also your love of the past. It's certainly worth loving. We had a lot of fun and gratification fighting battles and winning wars and stealing the women and burning the towns and we just got carried away. Now we stop it. In ourselves.

Do you remember the story when God told Lot not to look back? I never wondered about the esoteric value of salt, but I did recognize in Lot,
that we all have that weakness. Everyone else in his group were just $hit scared, but Lot just wanted to make sure. He doubted.
That's not wrong, to us that's normal. But that was his weakness.

That temptation to stay in illusion. It was home for a long time. The illusions start with the frauds around us, but they go far far deeper into our own minds.
It isn't just fear, and we're routing it out. We're also discovering that long lost treasure, ourselves. Behind where fear had buried it.

In healing you learn and sometimes reluctantly (and usually the hard way, and sometimes the hard way over and over), that all the power you think you're wielding
isn't really yours. It's not the power you'd envy, but the kind you can never really feel qualified to manage. You don't believe that you're responsible,
but you're afraid that you are, and that you have to know something that you're always pretty sure you don't, or missed in the instructions somewhere.

You're really only doing it because no one else is willing. or maybe it's just your turn. It's not hard or unnatural for anyone. But, and so, you're also not responsible for the outcome.They might die. I haven't experienced that yet, except for once. The cancer disappeared from the left side of the brain, and immediately developed on the right side.
The reasoning evaluating side of the brain gave up on a task, but the right side took back the experience of dying. Don't mess with anyone's intuitional side of their brain.
That outcome wasn't my choice because she was my ex mother in-law and I adored her. Most gorgeous little Irish woman, almost like a leprechaun.
But I also on a more insidious level wanted to prove to my ex-wife that I could do that. Not because I was angry at her, but because it's painful to be viewed for less that what you are. I thought still that I had something to do with the outcome.
Not a bad motive, but the one in myself that I was healing in the process. After that I studied my motives, but also admitted that I can't know what's ever really happening, and what's needed for it to happen.
Lovely Rita took 5 more years to die of brain cancer. That was a long deep 'impacting on everyone' process of intense introspection. They all got a lot done. It was amazing and beautiful, and all the pain that needed to flowed through it, and through and out of everyone. We should all be so lucky.

But to get away from that allegory, whatever picture you paint of a future, that 'outcome' and the solutions to get there, won't be true. It will become a cap on whatever is possible that will be true.
It can become true without you, and you don't want that. You want to see and understand and appreciate everything about it. You want to be present, not lost in the solutions. Not yet.
The solutions will come, but because the mind will have ceased making problems. That's your mind. Take that very personally.

I don't know if that's from too left field to be a benefit to you in your own quest or not. Maybe like a window on a different side of the room that opens,
and suggests that this thing you're looking at has sides you hadn't noticed. You've definitely nailed the glyphs that are on your side of the stone. I don't
remember them, or haven't seen them so I need your support in reminding me. See? And that's all we're doing as a collective.

If you feel frustrated with what's around you, it can only be because you can't see the whole story, and you're engaged in only a part of it.
Me too. I'm in the same boat. We do this awakening in ourselves, but we do it through each other. You must be doing your job in it.
Slowly as we move around the stone, we see all the sides and all the glyphs and the story tells itself.
It's the confrontation unaware of the conclusion that's scary. You know how they say you create from what you feel, not from what you're thinking.
We change that feeling from fearful to clean and empowered in a very compassionate way.

I didn't channel that or it wasn't guided or anything weird. I just said what I was thinking over that last bit of your post, about making something happen.
You/we already are. It already is. Just try for a moment withdrawing that sense of responsibility and replace it with trust. Or we call it trust. It's really acquiescence.
It's the same thing as surrender. A very high spiritual attainment if you care about that stuff. Not hard to do, just not the obvious thing to do. The responsibility is just redirected fear still.
Depending on the smaller self with the narrower vision to get it done. You still only want to get it done. You can still be wrong, you can still be guilty. You're not wrong and you're never guilty.
You can relax and not rely on a limited view. But I mean don't compromise trust, if even for a moment. You're sliding down the rock, just bit by bit so the bottom of the gorge is still a quarter mile away.
You ask "will it hurt?" You bet it will. You're letting go of everything you know.
Do that until you can feel what it feels like. With that extra bit of freedom, you'd be surprised what more you'll just find yourself doing.

Hey that was long, not my intention. Just wanted to share with a fellow escapee some insights on the woods at night in the dark. I sense in you a really good strong focused mind, that's really useful.
Focus can be used in any direction.

You take care.

Wow , big piece , thank you for writing this :) You said a lot of wise things.

But please understand that i DO feel responsible since i already started it and that i alway's want or try to make sure if i'm truly not forgetting anything or overlooking anything. I speak a lot with I and me that's not intentionally i'm just a grain of sand.
Trust has to grow , I won't trust anyone without knowing their true intentions and /or abilities there is simply too much at stake and besides my whole life i had certain expectations from certain people and in the end it alway's dissapointed me , doesn't have to be that way though but in 90 % it did.

So yeah i do take initiatives bravely not knowing for sure if i can truly control them or what the consquences might be for myself later on , but what i do know that in on or the other way something HAS to happen , and at least i'm part of that.
The only thing i would like to achieve is get into the minds of those who truly have the power and offer them some good alternatives and if they reject that (and there is a 95 % they do) then that means exposing them and their agenda's and especially reaching the public rather in a save way not to get wasted , like i said internet is a pretty good medium to do it.

markpierre
10th December 2012, 20:12
Wow , big piece , thank you for writing this :) You said a lot of wise things.

But please understand that i DO feel responsible since i already started it and that i alway's want or try to make sure if i'm truly not forgetting anything or overlooking anything. I speak a lot with I and me that's not intentionally i'm just a grain of sand.
Trust has to grow , I won't trust anyone without knowing their true intentions and /or abilities there is simply too much at stake and besides my whole life i had certain expectations from certain people and in the end it alway's dissapointed me , doesn't have to be that way though but in 90 % it does.

So yeah i do take initiatives bravely not knowing for sure if i can truly control them or what the consquences might be for myself later on , but what i do know that in on or the other way something HAS to happen , and at least i'm part of that.
The only thing i would like to achieve is get into the minds of those who truly have the power and offer them some good alternatives and if they reject that (and there is a 95 % they do) then that means exposing them and their agenda's and especially reaching the public rather in a save way not to get wasted , like i said internet is a pretty good medium to do it.

Yes, I'm only suggesting that you let it go. You're only responsible for yourself. And that's how you awaken. By not diffusing anxiety out into a world or troubled perception.
There's a core of you that is perfectly true. It becomes apparent to you when it becomes apparent around you what is false. Then you begin to notice things about yourself, and then soon all the things you do and say to 'get your way' and frankly just manipulate your way through this morass you consider 'your life'.
It's instinct, it's endemic in your family and culture, but it's based on a false premise.
That your survival depends on it.
The world outside you can't get true until you're true within yourself. Can you see how that works? Getting real, getting genuine, perfecting your own integrity in every possible hidden way.
Demanding and only recognizing truth, because what's false isn't anything at all. Not defending the identity who's only function is to survive within a deceitful thought system.
One compromise compromises all of it.
Truth is in you, not out there. Trust what's out there to deceive and screw up because that's the part it's playing, and what you were previously asking for by not noticing and participating with it.

That's that 'new mind' that has to take over the creative function of the human species.
In Spirit, you do that because deception doesn't serve any purpose apart from protecting bodies from the elements.
But you still do protect yourself from the elements, in the only way you know how. You're learning another way. The world and relationships becomes the curriculum.

Trust yourself to stop deception, beginning in you, becoming trustworthy. You've withdrawn your belief in it, now what do you want to believe in?

Fred Steeves
10th December 2012, 21:25
Hey WAOBF, follow your passion brother, and ride this baby for all she's worth. Hell, it's too late now anyway, you're committed. (LOL) If you don't get yourself killed in the process, the following video should about sum up your overall experience when you look back on it.

wJgVeeQ1KNo

eaglespirit
10th December 2012, 22:30
WeAreONEbigFamily...if I were to share with You that ALL the atrocities are about to be balanced and known to All that open Their Hearts to these monumental changes in front of Us as more and more 'get it' on Mother Earth as never ever before and We consciously and intentionally blend with the Higher ways and means of things in the here and now to help accelerate the acceleration of Love in front of Us and that is what changes all the rules of the rigged and putrid game to a distant speck of time imploding in on itself...and You are the One addition factor to put this momentum over the top in Your very own unique and uplifting way in front of You by living each moment as though it is already occurring...would You and could You?
...I feel an overwhelming yes : )

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 04:05
that i was litturally Spastic shaking on the couch for at least 15 minutes ! Al kinds of enormous doomscenarios came to my mind

You are hilarious I love your energy, ;)

yeah I loved that too, first rule of survival in Conspiracies is keeping a sense of humor so you don't go nuts...

we've been waiting for the banks to collapse, a hidden star to appear to tear our planet appart, with little green Geckos ready to take over the world...

we've spotted all the underground bunkers the elite are going to hop in and let the rest of us face what's coming... we have our blowtorches handy to seal them in... ;)

soo many many years of waiting for tomorrows doomsday, that never comes...

we all remember the first time running down the street telling the world the sky was falling...

Bill and Kerry started Camelot, it was a gathering of all of us, every day gulping down the fear porn, heart pounding forehead sweating... this is it, we're toast stories...

when Bill got to the point he was spending more time answering all of our freaked out emails, he started a forum we could ask questions, and have experts on the subjects appear and share their knowledge...

most importantly it was a place for all of us to gather as friends...


we can bring up any subject here and not get laughed off the forum, some might chuckle and say Rocky's lost it again, but they're all nice about it...


We know what it is like not having any friends you can talk wiht on these subjects, but what is really cool, is the day someone around you wakes up and you know everything about it...


they may have thought you nuts when it first came up, but then it hits them, if you are an expert on that, does that mean all the other stuff is true too...


it's a beautiful thing, and it will happen to you...

Thank you very much for writing this , but some things that happend are litturally doomscenarios and they DID happen , so never say never. What scared me the most is that they are actually capable to do it !!!!! They have the power to turn this beautiful earth into a hell and they do ! (Sure we the people have also a MAJOR role in this , but as leaders of this world they have the responsibility to educate us all in the right way's and that begins on school !) So , yes i agree with you totally that when the time really is there i surely can inform those who really need it based on what i know.

Again thx.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 04:12
WeAreONEbigFamily...if I were to share with You that ALL the atrocities are about to be balanced and known to All that open Their Hearts to these monumental changes in front of Us as more and more 'get it' on Mother Earth as never ever before and We consciously and intentionally blend with the Higher ways and means of things in the here and now to help accelerate the acceleration of Love in front of Us and that is what changes all the rules of the rigged and putrid game to a distant speck of time imploding in on itself...and You are the One addition factor to put this momentum over the top in Your very own unique and uplifting way in front of You by living each moment as though it is already occurring...would You and could You?
...I feel an overwhelming yes : )

I truly think that internet has an ENORMOUS role and potential for the world to wake up , Because especially on forums and research groups the members grade each other up all the time , why do you think they took over You tube ? They changed the lay out and so many other things to try and prevent the networking that was going on (after 911) , everybody was upgrading each other all the time , they regret that i'm sure , here listen to this.
Why do you think The United Nations wants to take over the whole Internet ?
https://rt.com/usa/news/un-internet-itu-packet-385/

international telecommunications union geneva
http://www.itu.int/en/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/91.aspx#.UMa0H6yVsgc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUpliZ7Wd60

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 04:27
Wow , big piece , thank you for writing this :) You said a lot of wise things.

But please understand that i DO feel responsible since i already started it and that i alway's want or try to make sure if i'm truly not forgetting anything or overlooking anything. I speak a lot with I and me that's not intentionally i'm just a grain of sand.
Trust has to grow , I won't trust anyone without knowing their true intentions and /or abilities there is simply too much at stake and besides my whole life i had certain expectations from certain people and in the end it alway's dissapointed me , doesn't have to be that way though but in 90 % it does.

So yeah i do take initiatives bravely not knowing for sure if i can truly control them or what the consquences might be for myself later on , but what i do know that in on or the other way something HAS to happen , and at least i'm part of that.
The only thing i would like to achieve is get into the minds of those who truly have the power and offer them some good alternatives and if they reject that (and there is a 95 % they do) then that means exposing them and their agenda's and especially reaching the public rather in a save way not to get wasted , like i said internet is a pretty good medium to do it.


Yes, I'm only suggesting that you let it go. You're only responsible for yourself






I can't !!!! Maybe that's were we differ , we ARE responsible , you know why because you as soon as you know and if you don't use that information to assist the ones that are being targetted then you are also responsible for their destiny !!!!!!

how can you learn then know and then turn your back and let them drown in their destiny , we first have to try to inform them so they can choose themself what they will do with the information !

No , i'm on a mission to inform as much people as i can and i hope many will follow that , because without it we are lost i'm pretty sure.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 04:44
I see still a LOT of deceptions going on on the website , so that worries me !
If the other forum members, or moderators, knew what was true and what was deception with a high degree of confidence, we could just dismiss or remove the deceptions.

But we don't know entirely, nor always with high confidence.

So we share, we discuss, we learn, we contribute, and we come to various conclusions, based in part on our various talents, experiences, and interests.

That means we also each see stuff go by that we're sure is crap. But we limit the amount of effort we spend trying to eliminate what we know is crap, because (1) sometimes we're wrong, and (2) too much conflict within the forum distracts from and obscures the more important truths that we seek together.

Some weeding of the garden is necessary. But too much focus on the weeds distracts from the tending of the more valued plants.

thx for the massage

markpierre
11th December 2012, 06:43
I can't !!!! Maybe that's were we differ , we ARE responsible , you know why because you as soon as you know and if you don't use that information to assist the ones that are being targetted then you are also responsible for their destiny !!!!!!

how can you learn then know and then turn your back and let them drown in their destiny , we first have to try to inform them so they can choose themself what they will do with the information !

No , i'm on a mission to inform as much people as i can and i hope many will follow that , because without it we are lost i'm pretty sure.

You can't get lost. You're eternal if you're real, and I assure that you are. We are exactly the same, and the process works exactly the same in all of us, because there really IS only one of us.
You can trust me or not, that's you're choice, but you'll get on to it sooner or later. I didn't say don't do what you do, what you do is great. we all have different things to do and different ways to experience this and express it.
Do everything you're compelled to do with everything you have, but measure in what you do, what is love and compassion,
and what is fear speaking and looking for solace and safety in agreements with others that you're not safe.
Safety is the issue, fear is the enemy.

I repeat; we are exactly the same, everyone reading this, only at different moments in our individual time-lines. Some are ahead of me, some are behind.
At this point that difference can be only moments apart. Soon it will be the same moment. It has to, because right 'now' is the moment that we all discover.
The past is gone, the future is imaginary, and neither will be continually recreated to obscure the perfect pristine 'what's right here, right now'.

For me it's been a painful 30 year process. I won't sell that to anyone. And I won't offer anyone advice that I don't know for absolute certain is absolutely solid
and will save a lot of time and pain.
I've found that core, and nothing that doesn't come from there is worth my time. It just messes with my head. When my mind is clear, I have to use it.
Same energy you use to spread your information. Passion.
I wouldn't single you out and give this to you, if I didn't know that you'll encounter it. It can be easy or it can be excruciating. The choice is yours.
But that choice makes no difference whatever to the outcome.
What it looks like? It looks like you, completely free, no matter what's happening around you. I'm not advocating a method, find your own method.
But by 'responsibility', I mean the guilt that associates itself with failure.

If you can save 99 of a 100 children from a fire, all you'll feel is the guilt of failing the one. The way you're using your mind right now.
Sounds noble, but it's also insane.

So you met the point where you resist. Go to that point and stay with it for as long as you can, and breath. Breath right into it. See what happens.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 06:52
I can't !!!! Maybe that's were we differ , we ARE responsible , you know why because you as soon as you know and if you don't use that information to assist the ones that are being targetted then you are also responsible for their destiny !!!!!!

how can you learn then know and then turn your back and let them drown in their destiny , we first have to try to inform them so they can choose themself what they will do with the information !

No , i'm on a mission to inform as much people as i can and i hope many will follow that , because without it we are lost i'm pretty sure.

You can't get lost. You're eternal if you're real, and I assure that you are. We are exactly the same, and the process works exactly the same in all of us, because there really IS only one of us.
You can trust me or not, that's you're choice, but you'll get on to it sooner or later. I didn't say don't do what you do, what you do is great. we all have different things to do and different ways to experience this and express it.
Do everything you're compelled to do with everything you have, but measure in what you do, what is love and compassion,
and what is fear speaking and looking for solace and safety in agreements with others that you're not safe.
Safety is the issue, fear is the enemy.

I repeat; we are exactly the same, everyone reading this, only at different moments in our individual time-lines. Some are ahead of me, some are behind.
At this point that difference can be only moments apart. Soon it will be the same moment. It has to, because right 'now' is the moment that we all discover.
The past is gone, the future is imaginary, and neither will be continually recreated to obscure the perfect pristine 'what's right here, right now'.

For me it's been a painful 30 year process. I won't sell that to anyone. And I won't offer anyone advice that I don't know for absolute certain is absolutely solid
and will save a lot of time and pain.
I've found that core, and nothing that doesn't come from there is worth my time. It just messes with my head. When my mind is clear, I have to use it.
Same energy you use to spread your information. Passion.
I wouldn't single you out and give this to you, if I didn't know that you'll encounter it. It can be easy or it can be excruciating. The choice is yours. But that choice makes no
difference whatever to the outcome.
What it looks like? It looks like you, completely free, no matter what's happening around you. I'm not advocating a method, find your own method.

So you met the point where you resist. Go to that point and stay with it for as long as you can, and breath. Breath right into it. See what happens.

Thx Brother Mark , your very welcome to tell me what is on your mind , i do have a hard time cathing up with the way you use frazes and language though :) especially cryptic things and certain sayings are hard for me to handle since i'm dutch , but that's allright , now i get familiar with those

Maybe we had a slightly miscommunication...

modwiz
11th December 2012, 07:33
I can't !!!! Maybe that's were we differ , we ARE responsible , you know why because you as soon as you know and if you don't use that information to assist the ones that are being targetted then you are also responsible for their destiny !!!!!!

how can you learn then know and then turn your back and let them drown in their destiny , we first have to try to inform them so they can choose themself what they will do with the information !

No , i'm on a mission to inform as much people as i can and i hope many will follow that , because without it we are lost i'm pretty sure.

You can't get lost. You're eternal if you're real, and I assure that you are. We are exactly the same, and the process works exactly the same in all of us, because there really IS only one of us.
You can trust me or not, that's you're choice, but you'll get on to it sooner or later. I didn't say don't do what you do, what you do is great. we all have different things to do and different ways to experience this and express it.
Do everything you're compelled to do with everything you have, but measure in what you do, what is love and compassion,
and what is fear speaking and looking for solace and safety in agreements with others that you're not safe.
Safety is the issue, fear is the enemy.

I repeat; we are exactly the same, everyone reading this, only at different moments in our individual time-lines. Some are ahead of me, some are behind.
At this point that difference can be only moments apart. Soon it will be the same moment. It has to, because right 'now' is the moment that we all discover.
The past is gone, the future is imaginary, and neither will be continually recreated to obscure the perfect pristine 'what's right here, right now'.

For me it's been a painful 30 year process. I won't sell that to anyone. And I won't offer anyone advice that I don't know for absolute certain is absolutely solid
and will save a lot of time and pain.
I've found that core, and nothing that doesn't come from there is worth my time. It just messes with my head. When my mind is clear, I have to use it.
Same energy you use to spread your information. Passion.
I wouldn't single you out and give this to you, if I didn't know that you'll encounter it. It can be easy or it can be excruciating. The choice is yours. But that choice makes no
difference whatever to the outcome.
What it looks like? It looks like you, completely free, no matter what's happening around you. I'm not advocating a method, find your own method.

So you met the point where you resist. Go to that point and stay with it for as long as you can, and breath. Breath right into it. See what happens.

Thx Brother Mark , your very welcome to tell me what is on your mind , i do have a hard time cathing up with the way you use frazes and language though :) especially cryptic things and certain sayings are hard for me to handle since i'm dutch , but that's allright , now i get familiar with those

Maybe we had a slightly miscommunication...

Your English is admirable. All second, or more, languages are admirable to me. To make things a bit more challenging is the matter of Cryptospeak. Cryptospeak has many uses. Mainly it is to create focus by engaging the mind in a way that both hemispheres have to work in parallel to properly understand the communication. Any communication worth having will involve real effort of the part of speaker and listener. However, it is meant (usually requires) for a common language to both. It depends upon nuances of a mother tongue. Cryptospeak is a natural result of meditation on issues, IMO.
It is sometimes difficult to not use Cryptospeak on matters of importance once one has developed this way of thinking/speaking.

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 07:42
I can't !!!! Maybe that's were we differ , we ARE responsible , you know why because you as soon as you know and if you don't use that information to assist the ones that are being targetted then you are also responsible for their destiny !!!!!!


If you can save 99 of a 100 children from a fire, all you'll feel is the guilt of failing the one. The way you're using your mind right now.
Sounds noble, but it's also insane.

Mark , i'm pretty sure only a handful of people is aware that The vatican is behind all major NWO agenda's hiding behind other groups to stay out the picture and to act like they promote peace and charity for a better world.
They have been brainwashing the world with all these false truth guru's !
and corrupt lying media.

so what you just said here is the opposite , the way it looks now is that 1 of those 100 is going to be safe and the other 99 are going to burn.

If i could save 99 from the 100 i would be very happy !

i'm going to sleep , i'm tired its 8:46 in the morning , i can't think straight when i'm tired. Greets

eaglespirit
11th December 2012, 12:09
WeAreONEbigFamily...Good Morning and the Best to You!

I need to let you know that most of us here at Avalon have been through the treadmill and ringer of life in intensities and have already come out the other end. Now this is not saying we have all the answers now and have all the knowledge now but we do have an inner knowing through extreme personal experiences that it is all changing now. Yes, full awareness of the mess matters...but we will dig ourselves in so deep uncovering things that it will rob all of our energy that is really needed to just BE the change we want to see...ALL of the darkness on this planet will be imploded...all we have to do is live in the now in the purest way we can muster...the tides have turned...and this is my own self saying so, no one else...we can increase the entropy of all that is wrong by doing ALL the right things we possibly can to help the 'uplift' and spirit of change. You are going to be a leader in the new unfolding of a wonder and beauty on this planet...just think about a way to just 'tweak' what You are doing so that it becomes music from Your Heart and let your head take a rest. I Love You..and I mean that!!!!

I posted this just a day ago on a site I had not visited in quite some time where there are people you would feel need to see more and know more of what you are exposing:

Love and Compassion are changing everything now...if we each focus solely on this the best we can, especially now more than ever right in front of us...we will help accelerate these good changes beyond belief. I have been prompted to share these things here with you for some very good and higher reason. You are all genuine people here, I know that is one reason.
The reality we have been living in is not what really is and we are changing it because we can change it, what would you like it to be like?...and I know that sounds crazy to some of you....just please give this all the extreme benefit of the doubt. What we do moment to moment in front of us from the heart is what reality will shift to...it is time!

Someone(s) needs to hear this here and that's why I was guided to come around...You are going to do some powerful and wonderful things in your lives in front of you as these changes come about rapidly now. It only takes one or two people in a group for this entrainment to take hold almost instantly now...and that change takes hold ALL around.

As I said...you have already been doing this each in your own ways...but if you are ever more conscious of it in each moment now it will take hold like never before.

I am experiencing this personally and that is the only way I can share it...by dong it and living it...for it to work the way it is working so powerfully now.

Chester
11th December 2012, 13:11
Your English is admirable. All second, or more, languages are admirable to me. To make things a bit more challenging is the matter of Cryptospeak. Cryptospeak has many uses. Mainly it is to create focus by engaging the mind in a way that both hemispheres have to work in parallel to properly understand the communication. Any communication worth having will involve real effort of the part of speaker and listener. However, it is meant (usually requires) for a common language to both. It depends upon nuances of a mother tongue. Cryptospeak is a natural result of meditation on issues, IMO.
It is sometimes difficult to not use Cryptospeak on matters of importance once one has developed this way of thinking/speaking.

Not just the Dutch (when it comes to many Europeans) but I am focusing on the Dutch because I have many, many friends from Holland as well as the Island, Curacao which is "part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands."

Most of my Dutch friends speak Dutch, German, French and English - something quite amazing to me.

My friends in Curacao speak Papiamentu (the official local island), Dutch, Spanish and English in almost every case. Some also speak Portuguese.

I have heard that speaking more than your native language sort of exercises the brain and assists folks in maintaining better, overall brain functionality and memory capacity.

It is impressive to me that WeAreOnebigFamily does so well with English and I would bet he speaks a few other languages too.

Having mentioned how I know many folks from Holland and Curacao, the Dutch have quite a few metaphorical statements they often bring forth in their communications... little stories by which one can get a point far better when heard through the little saying or brief story than if communicated by direct words. The Dutch do this far far more than most cultures I have encountered save for the New York mafioso culture which are professional metaphorical speakers (perhaps by necessity).

Anyways... just sharing about my experience with the Dutch. Enjoy the Day, Chester

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 16:44
WeAreONEbigFamily...Good Morning and the Best to You!

I need to let you know that most of us here at Avalon have been through the treadmill and ringer of life in intensities and have already come out the other end. Now this is not saying we have all the answers now and have all the knowledge now but we do have an inner knowing through extreme personal experiences that it is all changing now. Yes, full awareness of the mess matters...but we will dig ourselves in so deep uncovering things that it will rob all of our energy that is really needed to just BE the change we want to see...ALL of the darkness on this planet will be imploded...all we have to do is live in the now in the purest way we can muster...the tides have turned...and this is my own self saying so, no one else...we can increase the entropy of all that is wrong by doing ALL the right things we possibly can to help the 'uplift' and spirit of change. You are going to be a leader in the new unfolding of a wonder and beauty on this planet...just think about a way to just 'tweak' what You are doing so that it becomes music from Your Heart and let your head take a rest. I Love You..and I mean that!!!!

I posted this just a day ago on a site I had not visited in quite some time where there are people you would feel need to see more and know more of what you are exposing:

Love and Compassion are changing everything now...if we each focus solely on this the best we can, especially now more than ever right in front of us...we will help accelerate these good changes beyond belief. I have been prompted to share these things here with you for some very good and higher reason. You are all genuine people here, I know that is one reason.
The reality we have been living in is not what really is and we are changing it because we can change it, what would you like it to be like?...and I know that sounds crazy to some of you....just please give this all the extreme benefit of the doubt. What we do moment to moment in front of us from the heart is what reality will shift to...it is time!

Someone(s) needs to hear this here and that's why I was guided to come around...You are going to do some powerful and wonderful things in your lives in front of you as these changes come about rapidly now. It only takes one or two people in a group for this entrainment to take hold almost instantly now...and that change takes hold ALL around.

As I said...you have already been doing this each in your own ways...but if you are ever more conscious of it in each moment now it will take hold like never before.

I am experiencing this personally and that is the only way I can share it...by dong it and living it...for it to work the way it is working so powerfully now.

Thank you for you caring message ,
But if i speak for myself then this job is not finished yet and we have to do this , because then later on it will be way easier for humanity to deal with the guy's who are so hardened in their darkness that they HAVE to be removed no matter what. Sorry but the menaces to society have to be taken out , locked up. Its like removing a psychopathic killer , those are issues that HAVE to be done , and for now its our task (those who understand this) to expose these people , because we cannot tolerate them to do more deliberate natural disasters like the Gulf Oil Spill , because that was no accident mate , and what about Fukushima ? 3 cooling systems failed ?????? That was the reason everything exploded !!!!! and what a coincidence they all worked on Siemens hardware which was easy to manipulate with the stuxnet virus !

WeAreONEbigFamily
11th December 2012, 16:48
Your English is admirable. All second, or more, languages are admirable to me. To make things a bit more challenging is the matter of Cryptospeak. Cryptospeak has many uses. Mainly it is to create focus by engaging the mind in a way that both hemispheres have to work in parallel to properly understand the communication. Any communication worth having will involve real effort of the part of speaker and listener. However, it is meant (usually requires) for a common language to both. It depends upon nuances of a mother tongue. Cryptospeak is a natural result of meditation on issues, IMO.
It is sometimes difficult to not use Cryptospeak on matters of importance once one has developed this way of thinking/speaking.

Not just the Dutch (when it comes to many Europeans) but I am focusing on the Dutch because I have many, many friends from Holland as well as the Island, Curacao which is "part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands."

Most of my Dutch friends speak Dutch, German, French and English - something quite amazing to me.

My friends in Curacao speak Papiamentu (the official local island), Dutch, Spanish and English in almost every case. Some also speak Portuguese.

I have heard that speaking more than your native language sort of exercises the brain and assists folks in maintaining better, overall brain functionality and memory capacity.

It is impressive to me that WeAreOnebigFamily does so well with English and I would bet he speaks a few other languages too.

Having mentioned how I know many folks from Holland and Curacao, the Dutch have quite a few metaphorical statements they often bring forth in their communications... little stories by which one can get a point far better when heard through the little saying or brief story than if communicated by direct words. The Dutch do this far far more than most cultures I have encountered save for the New York mafioso culture which are professional metaphorical speakers (perhaps by necessity).

Anyways... just sharing about my experience with the Dutch. Enjoy the Day, Chester

Well my father was English , but he died in a Carcrash when i was 5 , so i didn't learned it from him , i think its something genetic ?
Because i can remember well that English was more logic to me then Dutch , Dutch is a strange language it doesn't goes direct to the core , English does !

mahalall
12th December 2012, 04:29
A little Interlude, friends

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Ultima Thule
12th December 2012, 06:36
The trouble with the 100 people in jeopardy is that quite a lot of them may have exercised their free will to be in jeopardy. There is a fine margin between helping some of them and actually trying to force upon them help against their free will. Therefore I feel that the information needs to be made well available for the ones out of the 100 when they make a choice to seek it, but the freedom to close ones eyes must also be kept intact. Some people in the hundred propably willingly don't wake up with the goal to offer "helpers" to gain perspective on their method and will to help.

UT

markpierre
12th December 2012, 07:50
The trouble with the 100 people in jeopardy is that quite a lot of them may have exercised their free will to be in jeopardy. There is a fine margin between helping some of them and actually trying to force upon them help against their free will. Therefore I feel that the information needs to be made well available for the ones out of the 100 when they make a choice to seek it, but the freedom to close ones eyes must also be kept intact. Some people in the hundred propably willingly don't wake up with the goal to offer "helpers" to gain perspective on their method and will to help.

UT

The metaphor was about guilt. Not the metaphoric victims issues.

Ultima Thule
12th December 2012, 11:33
Gosh, I guess I was unclear. Because there are much people that have possibly chosen not to be helpable, it is important to recognise that. Otherwise you end up feeling guilt over the ones you couldnīt "save" - unknowing of the fact that many are in fact unsaveable.
I wasnīt making an argument against your expression of the matter, on the contrary, I feel that there are things that need to be taken into consideration, or one might end up accumulating guilt that is not theirs to carry in the first place.
In the end, if you feel misinterpreted, I guess I can make my own interpretation, which might not be the same as yours, but nonetheless valid.

UT