December 21, 2012 only 2 places are safe. Did you get your reservation yet?

[Tangri]

Blue Energy Group claims only 2 places will be safe after Dec. 21, 2012

Turkey Izmir ,Sirince

France ,Bugarach.

"It was during the spring of 2011 that I began receiving messages direct from spirit. Prior to that all messages came through mediums and I had became wary of those because if the subject matter is not understood by the medium, the wrong interpretation of the message can be passed on. In consequence, I only quote them here when each has been repeated at least once and it fits in with information received from other sources."

http://www.energygrid.com/destiny/2010/12ns-2012mayanprophecy.html

Don Alejando Cirilo Perez Oxlaj is the leader of the Mayan Council of Elders and the Guatemalan Minister for Culture. In April 2008 during a meeting of 440 elders from many of the indigenous tribes around the world, he was voted to become their spokesman. All of these tribes have known about the prophecy for many thousands of years and wanted a trusted member to represent them as the time for change approaches. A second meeting in April 2009 gave approval for the prophecy to be made public.
Those who believe that disaster will strike on
21 December 2012, according to the Mayan calendar, have reinvigorated the town of
Sirince in Izmir's Selcuk district. Each year the village usually sees a sharp downturn in tourism during the Christmas season but this year, because of the flow of those awaiting 'disaster', it's 100% full.
An organization known as "Blue Energy Group" thinks that only Sirince and Bugarach, a village
in the south of France, will not be affected by the calamity. According to the group's belief, a (space) ship will come to Sirince and rescue all the people there, taking them to a safe place to avoid the disaster.
Engin Vatan, the owner of Mistik Konaklari (Mystic Mansions) in Sirince, said that "the
demand for 2012 end-of-year reservations started at the beginning of the year. Foreigners from around
the world are rushing here." The manager of Erdem Konaklari (Mansions of Virtue) in Sirince, Mustafa
Yildirdi, added that "the number of tourists has increased. Most of our rooms have been sold."
http://turkeybeauty.blogspot.ca/2012/10/village-of-sirince-izmir-apocalypse.html

At least it is a good for tourism business.

[Snookie]

Who is this Blue Energy Group and what do they have to gain by claiming this? The only hit I got on the name was a water company by that name in Switzerland. Who ever is saying this must own property/hotels in the area,

[Tony]

Safe?...safe?....if you are wanting somewhere safe, you are taking your fear with you!




Tony

[RMorgan]

Lol! Thanks mate, I was indeed in need of a good laugh this morning! :)

[DarMar]

Considering source and given information + bit of intuition i would say those 2 places would sink first if SHTF

Digital Ark,
The end is near, save your digital self here: http://www.digitalark.info/en

[scanner]

What have I missed , safe from what ? I'm always safe . Nothing, I mean nothing can touch you or me . You have to understand we are pure consciousness , nothing else . We are ALL safe , no fear ,as the stickers say .

[markpierre]

It will take me weeks to get a visa.

[Wind]

What ever comes will come. I'm safe right now, in my heart.

[Arpheus]

Lol where do people come up with this type of stuff i mean really?C.mon how do people who are supposed to be awake fall for this type of thing simply blows my mind away!!

[SilentFeathers]

I'm wondering what the ridiculous excuses some people will come up with after 12-21 after nothing happens except their rent or mortgage is still due and they still have flesh bodies?????

My guess is a new doomsday date or rapture/ascension date will be set and the "cycle of fear" will just begin all over again.

[Flash]

No Markpierre, the visas are distrituted at Istanbul or Izmir airport directly, get your cash out, everything is done to ensure the best possible tourist stay. S you can leave now. lol

As for France, we do not need it, westeners.

Izmir would be one of the last place I would go, it is in a seimic region to start with, the water table is absolutely poluted, it is on the sea, name it. Otherwise a beautiful city.

I would rather end up in Ephesus, at least I would already be in the ruins and we could make end of the world show in an old amphitheater. lol

[RMorgan]

No Markpierre, the visas are distrituted at Istanbul or Izmir airport directly, get your cash out, everything is done to ensure the best possible tourist stay. S you can leave now. lol

As for France, we do not need it, westeners.

Izmir would be one of the last place I would go, it is in a seimic region to start with, the water table is absolutely poluted, it is on the sea, name it. Otherwise a beautiful city.

I would rather end up in Ephesus, at least I would already be in the ruins and we could make end of the world show in an old amphitheater. lol

Hey Flash,

I´ve heard on the Brazilian news that there are already 5.000 doomsday tourists at Bugarach.

The people are having a hard time trying to accommodate and supply everyone with food,water, etc...

People say that there´s a flying saucer buried in the mountain and it will rescue everyone in Dec 21th... :doh:

Raf.

[Flash]

No Markpierre, the visas are distrituted at Istanbul or Izmir airport directly, get your cash out, everything is done to ensure the best possible tourist stay. S you can leave now. lol

As for France, we do not need it, westeners.

Izmir would be one of the last place I would go, it is in a seimic region to start with, the water table is absolutely poluted, it is on the sea, name it. Otherwise a beautiful city.

I would rather end up in Ephesus, at least I would already be in the ruins and we could make end of the world show in an old amphitheater. lol

Hey Flash,

I´ve heard on the Brazilian news that there are already 5.000 doomsday tourists at Bugarach.

The people are having a hard time trying to accommodate and supply everyone with food,water, etc...

People say that there´s a flying saucer buried in the mountain and it will rescue everyone in Dec 21th... :doh:

Raf.

It has not even started yet and they already can't feed everybody. Imagine when it will be going on for weeks. Oh, I forgot, they will be picked up by ETs before a few weeks the lucky ones, the ETs I mean, they have their livestock handy and the herd has been growing lately.

[SilentFeathers]

People would be really freaked out that if on the 21st ET's came to Earth and saved all the animals, birds, fish, and even insect and plant species, and left all humans behind because they weren't worthy and a huge danger to all life forms in general....

Seriously, what makes humans more "worthy" than all other life forms on this planet?

[gooty64]

Patrick Geryl has it narrowed down to these safe locations:



The Search for a Survival Place

Possible places:

Madagascar

High mountains of Spain (danger of nuclear fall-out)

High mountains of Turkey

Atlas mountains Morocco

Highlands of Ethiopia

[Maia Gabrial]

I truly believe that Dec 21st will be the real deal. I definitely believe that something magnificent will happen to humanity and Earth.
But here's the thing, whatever a person thinks will happen, will happen for THEM. So, no one should be disappointed. The skeptics think nothng will happen. Gloom-and-doomers see catastophies and look for places to hide. (REALLY? Where on the planet can you hide from something that is greater than all of us?) Spiritual people anticipate enlightenment. The Mayans say something magnificent will happen. See? Something for everyone....except for the cabal. They lose out on all their control and power....

But consider this: what if our transformations are part of the DIVINE PLAN? What if nothing will be able to stop it? And what if it overrides whatever we think? Afterall, we are part of a Great Cosmic Body who is really in control here.... Just a thought.

[SilentFeathers]

But here's the thing, whatever a person thinks will happen, will happen for THEM. So, no one should be disappointed.

See? Something for everyone....except for the cabal. They lose out on all their control and power....



This is an extreme contradiction in my opinion considering the cabal most likely think they are the rulers of the planet and will succeed at conquering and enslaving and or exterminating humanity......

Something for everyone you say???? Why would everyone get what they want or think except for the cabal, that makes no sense to me....perhaps I'm missing something?

[Carmody]

Patrick Geryl has it narrowed down to these safe locations:



The Search for a Survival Place

Possible places:

Madagascar

High mountains of Spain (danger of nuclear fall-out)

High mountains of Turkey

Atlas mountains Morocco

Highlands of Ethiopia


what about Kenya?

They make Tusker there, which is an excellent beer, almost beyond compare. Can we switch one of those places to being Kilimanjaro? They use the water coming off Kilimanjaro, IIRC. Every Pilsner/Lager fan should try it. They might find their new favorite beer, right there.

http://www.swoo.com/safari/IM001860.jpg

[Hip Hipnotist]

I'm wondering what the ridiculous excuses some people will come up with after 12-21 after nothing happens except their rent or mortgage is still due and they still have flesh bodies?????

My guess is a new doomsday date or rapture/ascension date will be set and the "cycle of fear" will just begin all over again.

I'll drink to that.

In fact, I'll even buy. ;-)

Will these 'ridiculous' predictions ever end?

I 'predict' not.

[RMorgan]

I'm wondering what the ridiculous excuses some people will come up with after 12-21 after nothing happens except their rent or mortgage is still due and they still have flesh bodies?????

My guess is a new doomsday date or rapture/ascension date will be set and the "cycle of fear" will just begin all over again.

I'll drink to that.

In fact, I'll even buy. ;-)

Will these 'ridiculous' predictions ever end?

I 'predict' not.

Lol! This is the first time I agree with a prediction!

Anyway, when nothing happens as predicted in Dec 21th, we´ll be able to "blacklist" at least a dozen alternative media characters who had built their fame and reputation out of this 2012 thing.

Some people will continue to believe these characters, but most of us wont ever want to hear a word from them.

So, I guess the level of disinformation will decrease dramatically after this date, which is a great thing. We´ll have a period of clarity, at least until the next doom or ascension date spreads again around the alternative community.

I "predict" a total belief crisis next year here on PA. Some people will be in denial, others will be forced to completely review their beliefs, others will just stop posting or leave the community.

Raf.

[Carmody]

The most important part of eating, meeting, absorbing, or passing correctly though a crisis point is to realize it exists, but to sidestep or pass by/though the eye of the needle...changed but not ended or terminated.

Thus, success is not everyone dying in horrible but spectacular sports car crashes (giant earthquakes, etc) but the appearance of ...nothing happening.

Buddhists and those who attempt enlightenment engage the dream and surpass it's effects. Ie, that Jesus of Nazareth, in the desert, and Buddha in repose, did NOT succumb to the projected visions, but ended them. They ended the interference of such, in their 'lives'.

And in that case, will the uninformed and unwashed masses ever understand what has gone on, what may have gone on, or what did not happen at all?????????

There is your quandary, where the unwashed and unthinking and unrepentant get their seeming desire.... and those who pay attention, also get theirs. Two diametrically opposed factions, both obtaining truths in their given separate flow of vision and life...... in the same moment.

As the detective at the murder or accident scene says, "We have 100 witnesses....and 100 different stories."

And that's the way it's always been. How complex projection of manifestation of reality, through time.... how it has always been.

How are you going to unwind that, my friend?

[Flash]

There is your quandary, where the unwashed and unthinking and unrepentant get their seeming desire.... and those who pay attention, also get theirs. Two diametrically opposed factions, both obtaining truths in their given separate flow of vision and life...... in the same moment.

As the detective at the murder or accident scene says, "We have 100 witnesses....and 100 different stories."

And that's the way it's always been. How complex projection of manifestation of reality, through time.... how it has always been.

How are you going to unwind that, my friend?

By building up the 10% needed.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=595929&viewfull=1#post595929


Carmody, post 23720 in the here and now thread: “When the number of committed opinion holders is below 10 percent, there is no visible progress in the spread of ideas. It would literally take the amount of time comparable to the age of the universe for this size group to reach the majority,” said SCNARC Director Boleslaw Szymanski, the Claire and Roland Schmitt Distinguished Professor at Rensselaer. “Once that number grows above 10 percent, the idea spreads like flame.”
http://scnarc.rpi.edu/content/minority-rules-scientists-discover-tipping-point-spread-ideas

The problem is that with fear, more people are looking at fear than at something constructive and joyfull.

The vision is: i would go with truth and love

[SilentFeathers]

I "predict" a total belief crisis next year here on PA. Some people will be in denial, others will be forced to completely review their beliefs, others will just stop posting or leave the community.

Raf.

Personally I think after 12-21-2012 and into 2013 all will be as it is now concerning the mind set of most all, business will continue as usually.

It'll take a massive comet strike, solar flare, world war, or some other means of gigantic event or series of events to snap the masses in to thinking in a more realistic way IMO. This 2012 thing is just chicken feed in my opinion.

[Carmody]

There is your quandary, where the unwashed and unthinking and unrepentant get their seeming desire.... and those who pay attention, also get theirs. Two diametrically opposed factions, both obtaining truths in their given separate flow of vision and life...... in the same moment.

As the detective at the murder or accident scene says, "We have 100 witnesses....and 100 different stories."

And that's the way it's always been. How complex projection of manifestation of reality, through time.... how it has always been.

How are you going to unwind that, my friend?

By building up the 10% needed. (help me here, I do not know how to link a specific post in another thread - I can link the thread, but not the specific post)


Carmody, post 23720 in the here and now thread: “When the number of committed opinion holders is below 10 percent, there is no visible progress in the spread of ideas. It would literally take the amount of time comparable to the age of the universe for this size group to reach the majority,” said SCNARC Director Boleslaw Szymanski, the Claire and Roland Schmitt Distinguished Professor at Rensselaer. “Once that number grows above 10 percent, the idea spreads like flame.”
http://scnarc.rpi.edu/content/minority-rules-scientists-discover-tipping-point-spread-ideas

First, I click, 'reply with quote'.

then, I open another tab or web browser window.

In that new window, I open up avalon forum again, a second forum window or tab, it is.

in that second tab or window of the forum, i go to the relevant thread and find the desired post.

In the upper right corner of the desired post, is a thing that says 'link to post #xxxxx '

click on that link.

That resets that browser window as being a single window that starts or begins with that particular post as the top most bit on that page.

then, one looks to the 'navigation toolbar', which has the location data, for this situation of the single post as a starting point.

That web browser data location information is taken, copied, and then posted here, in this post, like this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=595929&viewfull=1#post595929

then click 'post reply'......And you are done. Like so.

Edit:

There are many methods of doing so. I see you found one. :)

[DeDukshyn]

Patrick Geryl has it narrowed down to these safe locations:



The Search for a Survival Place

Possible places:

Madagascar

High mountains of Spain (danger of nuclear fall-out)

High mountains of Turkey

Atlas mountains Morocco

Highlands of Ethiopia


what about Kenya?

They make Tusker there, which is an excellent beer, almost beyond compare. Can we switch one of those places to being Kilimanjaro? They use the water coming off Kilimanjaro, IIRC. Every Pilsner/Lager fan should try it. They might find their new favorite beer, right there.

http://www.swoo.com/safari/IM001860.jpg

I had a Tusker not long ago, my beer store started stocking a few. ;) And it is pretty good beer!

[DeDukshyn]

I'm not going anywhere for the 21st. I'm taking the day off work to prepare via meditation to be a conduit for three days. If the conduit isn't needed at least I was ready. ;)

[Youniverse]

The safest place to be is in a higher vibration or frequency. And if we're talking about spaceships picking people up, there are a myriad of sacred places around the world like Teohuatican, Great Pyramid of Giza, and a bunch of others they have visited/helped build before. If they don't show up in any of those places, a whole lot of good, faithful, and smart people will be doomed I suppose. At any rate, I'll go with what someone said that we're all safe always anyways(pure consciousness), at least the part of us that really matters anyways. No fear here whatsoever.

[Lancelot]

Oh no!! Ive not got my reservation yet!

If I send you a blank cheque, will you be able to organise it for me?

[gooty64]

Dedukshyn,
If you drink to much beer, no matter how good it tastes, the alcohol will prevent you from growing into your light body.:caked:

[Youniverse]

The purpose of prophecies, by the way, are to present to mankind a vision of an outcome in a given timeline, assuming certain varaibles aren't changed. As variables change, so does the timeline, thus making the prophecy void. If the Mayan, Hopi, and many other prophecies have catalyzed people to 'wake up' and take more responsibility for their world, then they've done their job. A channeling I recently heard said that ALL of us will ascend to the New Earth. One could just as easily believe that prediction as any other. Pick the one most positive yet sensible to you and go with it!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Patrick Geryl has it narrowed down to these safe locations:



The Search for a Survival Place

Possible places:

Madagascar

High mountains of Spain (danger of nuclear fall-out)

High mountains of Turkey

Atlas mountains Morocco

Highlands of Ethiopia



What about the deep caverns of Uranus?

Ba ha

N

[apollo41]

The only place safe is the nearest toilet!

[DeDukshyn]

Dedukshyn,
If you drink to much beer, no matter how good it tastes, the alcohol will prevent you from growing into your light body.:caked:

Did I forget to mention my detox? ;) I'm going fully clean leading up to it, and hopefully I can ride that out afterwards.

A beer or two a day is good for your body, but I can tell its effect on the mind via meditation results, thus I'm starting more of a "clean spell" next week.

Funny you mentioned it - I was thinking the exact same thing ;)

[Ivanhoe]

I believe any of us can ascend at any moment if we truly understand the nature of things.
It's available to us all if we understand ourselves, and then, ultimately, understanding that we are not merely ourselves but a part of a greater "all" and recognizing that and allowing that, by releasing the ego, to enfold/ unfold to us (the ego).
It's all in our understanding of our true selves and our embracing the true self, it has nothing to do with a date or temporal time.
LOL, the time is ALWAYS now, forever and ever. 12/21/12 is just a date.
But that's just my view, I could be wrong.
LCRZZC-DH7M

[Keltikmuse]

I am sorry but I have just moved from 10 years of hell in Turkey and the only reason this is being mentioned is to make money. Nowhere in all of the research does it mention Izmir. However all the world knows about the mountain in France. Money making free advertisement if you ask me.

[nizkri]

so true scanner !!

What have I missed , safe from what ? I'm always safe . Nothing, I mean nothing can touch you or me . You have to understand we are pure consciousness , nothing else . We are ALL safe , no fear ,as the stickers say .

[Craig]

I am still thinking what is Dec 21st? Are we sure it is dec 21st? How accurate are our calendars? Could we have made a mistake 100's of years ago emerging out of the dark ages? What year is this? What year do you want it to be? Well I say I am 29 so lets say it is year XXXX. I can't go through a drive thru for dinner for 4 people and have them get the order correct so as for the art of calendaring????

Don't start on the drive thru - we were all tired, and minus nuggets.....

I shall be reaading this on the Dec 22nd hopefully on a space ship heading of a picnic on an isolated world next to a waterfall trying to learn inner peace.

[Keltikmuse]

I shall be reaading this on the Dec 22nd hopefully on a space ship heading of a picnic on an isolated world next to a waterfall trying to learn inner peace.

And I my brother will be next you................

[Tangri]

I shall be reaading this on the Dec 22nd hopefully on a space ship heading of a picnic on an isolated world next to a waterfall trying to learn inner peace.

And I my brother will be next you................

I hope you are nonsmokers. I heard some of ET don't like smoke meats:rolleyes:

[Flash]

Some others Levent Tonga like the smell of burned meat, I heard. So it will depend on which ship you 'ascend' into. Oh, by the way, the barb e queue (French pun for BBQ) meat will be you.

[Tangri]

Some others Levent Tonga like the smell of burned meat, I heard. So it will depend on which ship you 'ascend' into. Oh, by the way, the barb e queue (French pun for BBQ) meat will be you.

There is a problem because I will not be in one of those ships. I born in Earth and will go to earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhCYEmH20I

Flash I assume you speak French, I tried search Blue Energy Group but came with no success to locate their web site. Maybe They are French group, could you check them, if you have time please?:o

[Arrowwind]

[I "predict" a total belief crisis next year here on PA. Some people will be in denial, others will be forced to completely review their beliefs, others will just stop posting or leave the community.

Raf.

I predict that people will continue with their spiritual unfoldment. Just as they are doing now. Reviewing one's beliefs is always good therapy. They may be freed up from going to others for insight and instead turn to their own inner guidance. That in and of itself will be liberating. If just this one thing happens on a macro scale we will have accomplished much with this fun & folly.

[Flash]

Levent Tonga, what is this group about? When i google groupe énergie bleue, I end up with renewable energy sites or gaz metropolitain company. They may carry a different name in French related to what they do. This happens often

[WhiteFeather]

No Fear! I will wait it out here right by the east coast. And if all else should fail, please revert to this hyperlink enclosed.

http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/biobookener1.html

Energy exists in many forms, such as heat, light, chemical energy, and electrical energy. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work. Thermodynamics is the study of energy.

First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another. Click here for another page (developed by Dr. John Pratte, Clayton State Univ., GA) covering thermodynamics.

[Tangri]

Levent Tonga, what is this group about? When i google groupe énergie bleue, I end up with renewable energy sites or gaz metropolitain company. They may carry a different name in French related to what they do. This happens often

It(group) can be German. People who visit the site is mostly from Germany.

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I would chose the France also they have faster fast trains.
http://webtv.hurriyet.com.tr/2/42501/22122803/1/iste-size-yilin-sakasi.aspx

Bugarach has therefore definitely deserved the distinction of being a mystery location in its own right. It had been called “the sacred mountain” – though few know why – before Saunière ever set foot in Rennes-le-Château in 1885. It not only inspired Spielberg, but also Jules Verne, who created a character “Captain Bugarach” for his “Clovis Dardentor” (1896).
Michel Lamy is the author of a book on Jules Verne, in which he explores the possibility that one of the founding fathers of science fiction was aware of certain esoteric knowledge about the mountain that he worked into his novels. Specifically, that Verne wrote about Bugarach in relationship with the existence of an underground – lost – civilisation. But even Lamy is at a loss to explain why Verne would have become so enchanted with Bugarach – unless, of course, he was fully aware of the local legends, which he merely transcribed into his novels, or maybe he was even one of those initiates and protectors of the “sacred mountain”?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article2853287.ece

[Flash]

This first video in the hurriyet is absolutely hilarious Levent Tonga. I loved it.

I always appreciated this capacity of Turks to laugh at themselves and at those situations. Very similar to French Canadians in humour style.


http://webtv.hurriyet.com.tr/2/42501/22122803/1/iste-size-yilin-sakasi.aspx

[Tangri]

Oh no!! Ive not got my reservation yet!

If I send you a blank cheque, will you be able to organise it for me?

Sorry , all sold out. Come next time

"If tomorrow 10,000 people turn up, as a village of 200 people we will not be able to cope. I have informed the regional authorities of our concerns and want the army to be at hand if necessary come December 2012."
Mr Delord said people had been coming to the village for the past 10 years or so in search of alien life following a post in an UFO review by a local man, who has since died. "He claimed he had seen aliens and heard the humming of their spacecraft under the mountain," he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8217001/French-village-which-will-survive-2012-Armageddon-plagued-by-visitors.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nogx7ThifxU

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I am sorry but I have just moved from 10 years of hell in Turkey and the only reason this is being mentioned is to make money. Nowhere in all of the research does it mention Izmir. However all the world knows about the mountain in France. Money making free advertisement if you ask me.

Sorry, Local people is not responsible for this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-FaO9snHM