Help ! Need holistic dental information

[4evrneo]

Hello All,
Had an old filling fall out yesterday and when I went to the dentist today they told me I need 2 root canals.

I have heard that root canals are not good for my chakra's and block body meridians so if anyone knows about holistic dental alternatives, please share ! (please help me understand why root canals are not good and what the alternative is)

On one of the teeth needing repair, the nerve is showing where the filling fell out so its gotta be taken care of asap.

Thank you all for any information you can provide...

Annette

ps. I already have one tooth implant that I just got over a year ago. Doesnt seem to affect my chakras but I honestly dont know for sure or how I would know if it was blocking any meridian system.

[SilentFeathers]

Get your teeth fixed....a root canal is less damaging to you chakra's than if you let these "problem teeth" get too far away from you and infected, thus they'd be then pumping toxins all through your whole body and causing all kinds of other problems to your system. (affecting all your chakra's)

Not much other alternative to a root canal other than getting them pulled as far as I know, (I'm not a specialist nor a dentist) :)

I did have a few bad teeth a few years ago and did get really sick, 'bout poisioned me to death to be frank...

ADDED: Seems to me an implant would be more metal than a root canal??? thus having more of an affect on your chakra's

[Deega]

Hi 4evrneo,

I made a Google search and here is a link that you might find more information on ''root canal'' treatment.

http://www.drpgilbert.com/root-canal-options.html

All the best to you.

[Hip Hipnotist]

Dr. Mercola seems to have pretty good information on a variety of topics.

Here's one on root canals...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oYbOvx54OOs#!

You'll probably find many on why root canals are perfectly safe just as you'll find many dentists ( probably the majority ) that'll swear fluoride prevents cavities.

Be well!

BTW: I had the beginning of two root canals performed many years ago and ended up loosing both teeth. They both cracked before I could get the crowns because I had to leave town for business prior to receiving them. Probably not the dentists fault but I'm glad of the result because from what I've come to learn I'd have chosen another option other than root canals had I'd known then what I do now. Famous last words, heh? ;-)

BTW 2: The cost for the root canals -- ( at that time ) $1200. $600 ea.

The cost to remove the teeth?

$80!

Yikes!!

[WhiteFeather]

Hey Annette give this a looksy below link. Im Not sure if there is any alternative to root canal. But maybe one of our knowlegable members on Avalon may have an answer perhaps. Good Luck! ;)

Root Canals Can Have Devastating Effects on Health!
http://www.naturalnews.com/025412_root_canals_bacteria_infection.html

[Lifebringer]

Don't play w/your health as dental bacteria can lead to serious silent and deadly heart desease. If that nerve is hanging and throbbing find the nearest drug store and get some AMBESOL or the one they give children and use in dentist office ORAGEL. As a poor woman who can ill afford a pulling less more a root canal, use what is there for now and get it fixed to put the nerve back in place. DO NOT SUCK ON THE TOOTH OR HOLE AREA WHERE THAT NERVE IS or it will SWELL MORE FROM THE GERMS ON THE TONGUE, AND THROB THROUGH YOUR BRAIN CENTER.

You simply don't want to go there. If you choose not to have it done, then stock up on the Ambesol/Oragel, until the tooth finally rots out using a peroxide swish through the area two morning and night and a saline/ or salt warm water mouth swishing four times a day.

Garlic will kill the germs, and promote healing of the teeth. Don't know why, but some people have used it everyday and grow a third set.

Goodspeed on your decision, which ever it is. PS Pot helps also, but I don't want to encourage you. It is a pain relieving herb.

[Lifebringer]

Hahahahaha. Me too. They had the appt for three weeks down the line, and they didn't temp cap and they broke before they dould cap em. I wish I'd known about it then also. They make it sound so au natural, when they know if they don't do it within days of the damage, no matter how many caps they put on the inside will rot like a peanut.

[ThePythonicCow]

ps. I already have one tooth implant that I just got over a year ago. Doesnt seem to affect my chakras but I honestly dont know for sure or how I would know if it was blocking any meridian system.
One of the essential problems with root canals, and implants, sometimes doesn't show up for a few years. That problem is infection, deep down, which causes no obvious local complaint, but still floods the body with toxins. I am in the process of having all my root canals and implants removed, even though a conventional dentist would say they look fine.

One implant in particular was quite a mess underneath, and the dentist (not of a conventional mind) had to remove quite a bit of messed up bone to clean it out. I felt dramatically better immediately there after, and ever since. My progressing ear disease and general "flu like" feelings of illness were pretty clearly caused by that hidden infection. The month before removing it, I had several days I could not get out of the house, barely able to make it between toilet, bathroom floor and bedroom. That was six months ago. I've had no such days since then.

From what I read, pretty much all root canals end up infected, usually unbeknownst to their owner. Titanium implants (such as I had) also are a likely cause of permanent irritation, at best, to the body.

The other related problem, which I personally don't notice, but which my dentist is keen to tell me of, involves metals in the mouth. The more quantity and variety of metal, the stronger and more complex the electrical currents and magnetic fields that are setup, interfering with the natural order of the mouth and (well connected) body. This is why I would guess there is a concern with "blocking any meridian system."

So, in short, I am avoiding fluoride and mercury (aka "silver") fillings, root canals and implants. I am going instead with fewer teeth and (no metal, all ceramic) bridges. I still have several crowns with nickel alloy underneath, which aren't great either, but not as bad in my experience so far. I've also begun researching partial and full dentures :).

[4evrneo]

Thank you everyone for the links and video.
With those sources and the research I found I think I am better off just getting them pulled.
Interesting thing the man said in the video about having severe cystic acne and after the tooth was extracted it disappeared. I have had cystic acne for about 5 years now so it really has me wondering and nothing including total diet change has helped.
It will be interesting to see the dentist's reaction when I tell him to just pull them out.

Thank you all for your help : )
Bless,

[4evrneo]

ps. I already have one tooth implant that I just got over a year ago. Doesnt seem to affect my chakras but I honestly dont know for sure or how I would know if it was blocking any meridian system.
One of the essential problems with root canals, and implants, sometimes doesn't show up for a few years. That problem is infection, deep down, which causes no obvious local complaint, but still floods the body with toxins. I am in the process of having all my root canals and implants removed, even though a conventional dentist would say they look fine.

One implant in particular was quite a mess underneath, and the dentist (not of a conventional mind) had to remove quite a bit of messed up bone to clean it out. I felt dramatically better immediately there after, and ever since. My progressing ear disease and general "flu like" feelings of illness were pretty clearly caused by that hidden infection. The month before removing it, I had several days I could not get out of the house, barely able to make it between toilet, bathroom floor and bedroom. That was six months ago. I've had no such days since then.

From what I read, pretty much all root canals end up infected, usually unbeknownst to their owner. Titanium implants (such as I had) also are a likely cause of permanent irritation, at best, to the body.

The other related problem, which I personally don't notice, but which my dentist is keen to tell me of, involves metals in the mouth. The more quantity and variety of metal, the stronger and more complex the electrical currents and magnetic fields that are setup, interfering with the natural order of the mouth and (well connected) body. This is why I would guess there is a concern with "blocking any meridian system."

So, in short, I am avoiding fluoride and mercury (aka "silver") fillings, root canals and implants. I am going instead with fewer teeth and (no metal, all ceramic) bridges. I still have several crowns with nickel alloy underneath, which aren't great either, but not as bad in my experience so far. I've also begun researching partial and full dentures :).

Thank you Paul,
I am looking into those options as well. Partials in my book are better than risking serious problems down the road.
A

[4evrneo]

Hey Annette give this a looksy below link. Im Not sure if there is any alternative to root canal. But maybe one of our knowlegable members on Avalon may have an answer perhaps. Good Luck! ;)

Root Canals Can Have Devastating Effects on Health!
http://www.naturalnews.com/025412_root_canals_bacteria_infection.html

Thank you Wf,
I think I have made up my mind. They are a comin out !!!
I am also looking into mercury/amalgam chelation since they have been in my mouth for years and I have no doubt it has been affecting my health.

Bless,

[4evrneo]

Dr. Mercola seems to have pretty good information on a variety of topics.

Here's one on root canals...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oYbOvx54OOs#!

You'll probably find many on why root canals are perfectly safe just as you'll find many dentists ( probably the majority ) that'll swear fluoride prevents cavities.

Be well!

BTW: I had the beginning of two root canals performed many years ago and ended up loosing both teeth. They both cracked before I could get the crowns because I had to leave town for business prior to receiving them. Probably not the dentists fault but I'm glad of the result because from what I've come to learn I'd have chosen another option other than root canals had I'd known then what I do now. Famous last words, huh? ;-)

Thanks Hip,
That is a great video with the most information I have seen on the truth about root canals. It will be exciting if the acne goes away after they are extracted too : )

Im saving this vid for future reference.

Bless,

[Arrowwind]

Hello All,

Had an old filling fall out yesterday and when I went to the dentist today they told me I need 2 root canals.

.

Absolutely do not get a root canal!
There absolutley is an alternative and dont listen to the naysayers.

Wait till you can find the right dentist to fix your teeth without this dangerous procedure but get on it and do it soon. Meanwhile get mms and start using mms as a mouthwash one or twice a day until you know just what you want to do. The following link will help you... even if you have to travel to get there. Get it done right and avoid a world of woe.



this page will tell you everything you need to know including how to find a doctor who will not do root canals.
http://www.healthsalon.org/478/biomimetic-dentistry-ozone-dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/

[Daughter of Time]

Look for a holistic dentist in your area. I see a holistic dentist. Unfortunately I found her after all the damage had already been done.

I had a mouthful of amalgam fillings and ended up with mercury poisoning. It took me nearly two years on DMSA (oral chelation) to remove the heavy metals from my body. DMPS (intra-venous chelation) works faster but it's very hard on the body. I chose the gentler route. My DMSA was prescription but it's also available in health food stores. Other nutrients like algae, apple pectin, cilantro are helpful in removing heavy metals if the accumulation is not too high.

My dentist avoids most root canals by using a laser which kills infections. But I already had two root canals when I started seeing her. She feels there is no need to extract my teeth. Instead, she shoots ozone (which kills bacteria, fungii, parasites, moulds, etc.,) every six months into the root canals that are already there. But if they weren't there already, I would certain look for all other options available before resorting to a root canal. It sounds like your teeth are not highly symptomatic, so you have time to shop around. Good luck and try to avoid root canals. They're known to cause too many health issues.

You could get a temporary filling until you figure you the best course of action.

[Daozen]

Brushing with small amounts of Epsom Salts after mint toothpaste really helped my teeth (I use about 1/8th teaspoon) . MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) is good, as is Xylitol.

[MargueriteBee]

Last year the crown came off the tooth with a root canal. The dentist pulled the tooth. It was so infected it made me really, really sick but MMS saved the day!

[WhiteFeather]

I have to say I chose the teeth pull myself instead of root canal. And Ive been a happy camper ever since. Photo enclosed below. :p I think its time for a good haircut and shave though.


http://mycrazytown.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/smile.jpg

[TargeT]

ps. I already have one tooth implant that I just got over a year ago. Doesnt seem to affect my chakras but I honestly dont know for sure or how I would know if it was blocking any meridian system.
One of the essential problems with root canals, and implants, sometimes doesn't show up for a few years. That problem is infection, deep down, which causes no obvious local complaint, but still floods the body with toxins. I am in the process of having all my root canals and implants removed, even though a conventional dentist would say they look fine.

One implant in particular was quite a mess underneath, and the dentist (not of a conventional mind) had to remove quite a bit of messed up bone to clean it out. I felt dramatically better immediately there after, and ever since. My progressing ear disease and general "flu like" feelings of illness were pretty clearly caused by that hidden infection. The month before removing it, I had several days I could not get out of the house, barely able to make it between toilet, bathroom floor and bedroom. That was six months ago. I've had no such days since then.

From what I read, pretty much all root canals end up infected, usually unbeknownst to their owner. Titanium implants (such as I had) also are a likely cause of permanent irritation, at best, to the body.

The other related problem, which I personally don't notice, but which my dentist is keen to tell me of, involves metals in the mouth. The more quantity and variety of metal, the stronger and more complex the electrical currents and magnetic fields that are setup, interfering with the natural order of the mouth and (well connected) body. This is why I would guess there is a concern with "blocking any meridian system."

So, in short, I am avoiding fluoride and mercury (aka "silver") fillings, root canals and implants. I am going instead with fewer teeth and (no metal, all ceramic) bridges. I still have several crowns with nickel alloy underneath, which aren't great either, but not as bad in my experience so far. I've also begun researching partial and full dentures :).

Thank you Paul,
I am looking into those options as well. Partials in my book are better than risking serious problems down the road.
A


I've looked into this a lot, mostly due to Paul in other postings on this forum, it was all confirmed by my mom during later conversations (she's big into homeopathy & was a nurse practitioner for years).

The systemic infection is the real risk and it's an entire system risk, not just oral; I think your decision is by far the best one.

[Arrowwind]

I'll tell you this

An alternative dentist is not good enough!. You want a dentist that knows how to prevent a root canal. Not all alternative dentists know how to do this. You also want a dentist that uses ozone gas to purify the tooth. There is quite a bit to know about biomemitic dentistry, link provided in post #13

[yiolas]

Please don't get the root canals until you explore all of your options !
Too many of us in the past have gotten this proceedure done when we didn't know any better (including myself). Knowing what I know now, I would have them taken out if I had the financial means.

Please listen to the Patrick Timpone show below (click on link)



THE MORNING SHOW
with
Patrick Timpone

Dr.Alison Adams
MouthBody Medicine
Dr Alison Adams is a leading spokesperson and pioneer in the field of what she calls MouthBody Medicine. This is an emerging discipline that looks at the effect of dental procedures and dental disease on general health and how nutrition and systemic health issues relate to the mouth and teeth. She is a dentist, naturopath, author, online health coach, and speaker.
This is Dr. Adams’ 3rd visit with us. One of our favorites, Alisons simple and practical approach to natural medicine and understanding of the body as a whole infuses us with the hope that we can overcome anything.
In this interview we hear how she detoxified from years of exposure to mercury as a dentist and her journey to get her own mouth in tip top shape. We talk about the choices, the pros and cons of implants. We all agreed that getting root canals out as soon as possible is mission critical
We refer you to our recent conversation with Dr. Stuart Nunnally
Just how much do you value your life and are what extent are you willing to go to move into to optimal health? Don’t ponder this question when operating heavy machinery.





http://oneradionetwork.com/health/dr-alison-adams-the-mouthbody-doctor-september-24-2012/

http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/health/dental/09.24.12_adams_allison_dental_healing.mp3

Additional Info: Dr. Stuart Nunnally,DDS " The Critical Truth on the Danger of Root Canals"

Part 1: http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/health/dental/09.06.12_nunnally_stuart_root_canals_one.mp3

Part 2: http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/health/dental/09.06.12_nunnally_stuart_root_canals_two.mp3

[Bo Atkinson]

I failed to care for my teeth for half of my life.

I paid by loosing (pulling) too many...

The best measures for me have been using water pick with a little peroxide and...

Removal of commercially processed food from diet and maximum reduction of sugar intake.

Focussing on super foods and continued study of trusted nutritional info.

I tried one local "holistic dentist" who, it turned out knew almost nothing about the subject.

If the dental office cannot cite good scientific resources, i'd not sign up there.

Trouble is most good dentists are far away.

[4evrneo]

Talked to my dentist today. He said he would not extract my teeth. I have been researching all day ! there are only 3 holistic dentists in my area and they are RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE !

For now, waiting on the MMS until I can find someone who will do what "I" want them to do.

Back to the drawing board.

[ThePythonicCow]

The best measures for me have been using water pick with a little peroxide and...
Carmody once recommended using MMS in one's waterpik (oral irrigator) solution.

I've not tried that yet, but it sounded like a good idea to me, especially on the places that likely harbor some infection (pressure sensitive, gum receding, root canals, ...)

[onawah]

Fresh aloe vera gel is fabulous for gums and for infections, inflammation. and much more.
You can get leaves for consumption (generally weighing from 1-3 lbs each) at a Mexican market, if there is one in your area.
Or you can order them from Aloe Labs in Harlingen, Texas to be shipped via UPS.
You have to order a minimum of 25 lbs.
The leaves will store without refrigeration for a month or more if kept cool and dry.
Peel off the skin, scoop the gel into a blender with water or fruit juice.
I take about 1 lb. a day and it is the healthiest all round food/medicine I know of.
Lots of probiotics are recommended, too, of course.

[4evrneo]

The best measures for me have been using water pick with a little peroxide and...
Carmody once recommended using MMS in one's waterpik (oral irrigator) solution.

I've not tried that yet, but it sounded like a good idea to me, especially on the places that likely harbor some infection (pressure sensitive, gum receding, root canals, ...)

Paul,
I was looking at water pik's yesterday but since I have other silver/mercury fillings still in my mouth I dont think that would be a good idea.
Maybe after I find someone who will take them out for me. So far no luck !
They all want to examine me and said they will suggest root canal first....
Very frustrating to say the least. I dont understand why they wont just take them out for me.

As far as the holistic dentists I found (3) they all charge over 200 just to see me !
sigh..........

A

[Pam]

Before you decide on extraction of those teeth look at this alternative to traditional root canals----


Description of this root canal material below;

Biocalex is a product that has been used in Europe for over 15 years in the treatment of infected dental pulp (root canal). It uses calcium oxide (CaO), zinc oxide (ZnO) and a special ethyl glycol/water liquid. Calcium hydroxide has been repeatedly demonstrated to be the most biocompatible material used in endodontic therapy and studies have demonstrated that calcium hydroxide is more effective than phenols in killing bacteria isolated from infected root canals.

For chemically sensitive person, endodontic treatment presents some very special problems because of the toxicity of the existing materials used in the treatment. In this regard, Biocalex has been evaluated and found to be highly biocompatible. As no toxic chemicals or cements need to be used to sterilize or seal the canal(s), Biocalex offers hope to the patient with multiple chemical sensitivities who might otherwise need to have the tooth extracted because of an inability to tolerate the materials that would be used to endodontically treat the infected tooth.

Although Biocalex can be seen on an x-ray initially, after conversion to calcium carbonate, it will look no different than the normal tooth structure. Consequently, you may not be able to tell whether the tooth has been treated, and therefore, it is extremely important that your dentist note on your records that Biocalex was used, otherwise a new dentist might say that a root canal was never done.

There are other concerns when teeth are removed as well. There can be overgrowth of the tooth that opposes the removed tooth, also, your teeth can shift due to the increased space available..You are still quite young and I'm not sure removal is the best answer for you....sincerely, pam

[SnowyOwl]

Here is a pdf worthwhile: Where There Is No Dentist (pdf) (http://modernsurvivalonline.com/Files/medical/wtndentist_2010_Web_Full_Book.pdf), from the website modernsurvivalonline.com (http://modernsurvivalonline.com/top-10-downloads-you-should-have/), described there as:



The author uses straightforward language and careful instructions to explain how to: examine patients; diagnose common dental problems; make and use dental equipment; use local anesthetics; place fillings; and remove teeth.

[ThePythonicCow]

Biocalex is a product that has been used in Europe for over 15 years in the treatment of infected dental pulp (root canal). It uses calcium oxide (CaO), zinc oxide (ZnO) and a special ethyl glycol/water liquid. Calcium hydroxide has been repeatedly demonstrated to be the most biocompatible material used in endodontic therapy and studies have demonstrated that calcium hydroxide is more effective than phenols in killing bacteria isolated from infected root canals.
My concern with root canal treated teeth, and the reason I am removing all mine, is that I am under the impression that there is no practical way to keep them from eventually harboring serious, but often unnoticed, infections. No matter how germicidal the endodontic filling, I doubt it can reach or keep sterilized all the microtubules throughout the tooth in perpetuity.

[ThePythonicCow]

I was looking at water pik's yesterday but since I have other silver/mercury fillings still in my mouth I dont think that would be a good idea.
Excellent point :).


Maybe after I find someone who will take them out for me. So far no luck !
They all want to examine me and said they will suggest root canal first....
Very frustrating to say the least. I dont understand why they wont just take them out for me.

As far as the holistic dentists I found (3) they all charge over 200 just to see me !
sigh..........
I'd suggest that you do your best (as if this wasn't already quite a challenge) to find a dentist who will remove those mercury fillings safely. Just drilling them out floods your body with mercury that is very slow to be removed (half life stuck in your brain and vital organs is in the decades.)

When my dentist discovered part of an old mercury filling that had been hiding underneath a crown she was removing, she stopped drilling. Her and her assistant put on gas masks. She had me hold what looked like the sucking end of a shop vac (nicer, more expensive, model suitable for a dental office) right under my mouth. She turned on an air filter suitable for mercury vapors in the office. She used an extra dam in my mouth. She already knew that I was loaded to the gills with Vit C. She reminded me to breath through my nose, not my mouth. Then she proceeded to drill it out.

When she removed (with prior knowledge) several mercury fillings from my sister's mouth, she refused to even start drilling until she had worked with my sister for a couple of months on ramping up various nutrients suitable for coping with and minimizing the absorption of mercury.

Her initial exam and visit costs $300 or $400.

Try interviewing prospective dentists, asking them what procedures they use to remove mercury fillings.

[4evrneo]

After calling 6 dentists today, I finally found one that will give me a free 2nd opinion appt. I explained my situation and I am hoping they will respond well.

Crossing my fingers :)

[TargeT]

I was looking at water pik's yesterday but since I have other silver/mercury fillings still in my mouth I dont think that would be a good idea.
Excellent point :).

Can you elaborate, why is this not a good idea?


After calling 6 dentists today, I finally found one that will give me a free 2nd opinion appt. I explained my situation and I am hoping they will respond well.

Crossing my fingers :)



BEST OF LUCK!!

[4evrneo]

Biocalex is a product that has been used in Europe for over 15 years in the treatment of infected dental pulp (root canal). It uses calcium oxide (CaO), zinc oxide (ZnO) and a special ethyl glycol/water liquid. Calcium hydroxide has been repeatedly demonstrated to be the most biocompatible material used in endodontic therapy and studies have demonstrated that calcium hydroxide is more effective than phenols in killing bacteria isolated from infected root canals.
My concern with root canal treated teeth, and the reason I am removing all mine, is that I am under the impression that there is no practical way to keep them from eventually harboring serious, but often unnoticed, infections. No matter how germicidal the endodontic filling, I doubt it can reach or keep sterilized all the microtubules throughout the tooth in perpetuity.

My thoughts exactly. This is why I want them removed, reducing any chance for remaining infections or damage from the mercury.

[TargeT]

Biocalex is a product that has been used in Europe for over 15 years in the treatment of infected dental pulp (root canal). It uses calcium oxide (CaO), zinc oxide (ZnO) and a special ethyl glycol/water liquid. Calcium hydroxide has been repeatedly demonstrated to be the most biocompatible material used in endodontic therapy and studies have demonstrated that calcium hydroxide is more effective than phenols in killing bacteria isolated from infected root canals.
My concern with root canal treated teeth, and the reason I am removing all mine, is that I am under the impression that there is no practical way to keep them from eventually harboring serious, but often unnoticed, infections. No matter how germicidal the endodontic filling, I doubt it can reach or keep sterilized all the microtubules throughout the tooth in perpetuity.

My thoughts exactly. This is why I want them removed, reducing any chance for remaining infections or damage from the mercury.


one "nice" (though also bad) thing about the Amalgum fillings (mercury) is that they are anti-microbial, they will not allow infection since they are so toxic (which is bad for YOU too...)

not worth the risk though, I agree with your removal efforts and after I move I will be doing the same for my fillings.

[ThePythonicCow]

I was looking at water pik's yesterday but since I have other silver/mercury fillings still in my mouth I dont think that would be a good idea.
Excellent point :).

Can you elaborate, why is this not a good idea?
I'm guessing that MMS would do a nice job of dissolving out the mercury from fillings, making it more readily available to the rest of the body. If so, that's not a "good thing" (tm).

[onawah]

I'd say that's all very good advice from Paul.
I had a lot of root canals done way back before anyone seemed to know all the problems with infection involved.
My dentist at that time told me he thought I would be better off just getting the teeth pulled and getting dentures instead, so he must have known something.
I wish I had listened, because it would have saved me a lot of pain and trouble over the years, but I was young and cared a lot more about my appearance than I do now, so root canals were my choice.
Not that dentures are a picnic either.
But I finally had all the root canal teeth out and got dentures, and overall, my health has much improved.
Root canals represent a lot of profit for dentists, and I think that's one BIG reason why they are still being recommended.
Getting mercury fillings out needs special care and not all dentists take the necessary precautions, so that will likely be a costly process.
But if the teeth that have mercury fillings also have root canals, I would definitely just have them out, and that at least would probably simplify the process, and would surely reduce the risks of mercury contamination.

[Connecting with Sauce]

please consider anything other than removal or root canals if it is good enough to heal...

Listen to Stuart Nunnally here discussing the DANGERS of root canals.

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/dr-stuart-nunnally-dds-the-critical-truth-on-the-dangers-of-root-canals-september-6-2012/

http://oneradionetwork.com/dental-healing/

[4evrneo]

Yay !!! the second opinion appt I had yesterday went well. The dentist responded well to my concerns and said he would take them out and give me a partial.
The nice thing about just removing the teeth, I wont have to have the silver fillings drilled out. They will just come out with the tooth extraction :)

Of course, he did give me his speil (sp) about how the ADA says that the silver fillings are not dangerous and completely safe ! I listened patiently but then gave him my feeling on the matter and that it is a holistic choice so he said he understood and will do what I want.

Although this whole situation has been quite stressful, I am glad that I went the extra mile and did not give up looking for someone who would take them out.
After calling probably every dentist in my area persistence paid off.

Thank you everyone for all your sources of information and your help, thats why I love PA :)

Annette

[Arrowwind]

I dont know why you are having these pulled. Its probably not necessary and if you think life is great with a partial think again.

did you look for one of these kinds of dentists in your area? here's a directory.
http://www.mouthmattersbook.com/resources/directory/

[Bill Ryan]

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I've been late getting to this thread! Apologies.

I had a molar root canal treatment 20 years ago, and 10 years ago was in line to have another. The holistic dentist I visited, in Edinburgh, did something extraordinary: she personally lent me a book of hers, urged me to read it overnight, and asked me to come back the next day. She said she would then do whatever I chose.

I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

The scientific evidence was overwhelming that root canal treatments can at least sometimes lead to serious chronic illness. It's all documented.

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.

[amandapoet]

Annette,
I am so happy you are yanking them...oral infections are so insidious. I have suffered from the failed effects of a root canal, and continue to have issues with my sinuses and also cystic acne ...which I can tell you got better after the failed root canal tooth was removed. However, I have cavities that have gotten much worse in the same area, and my symptoms are flaring up again. I had awesome oral health prior to having my second child, but I world gladly lose a few teeth to have her ;)

~Amanda

[4evrneo]

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I've been late getting to this thread! Apologies.

I had a molar root canal treatment 20 years ago, and 10 years ago was in line to have another. The holistic dentist I visited, in Edinburgh, did something extraordinary: she personally lent me a book of hers, urged me to read it overnight, and asked me to come back the next day. She said she would then do whatever I chose.

I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

The scientific evidence was overwhelming that root canal treatments can at least sometimes lead to serious chronic illness. It's all documented.

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.

Bill,
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post and sharing your experience and knowledge.
All I can say is WOW ! The information I read on Dr. Weston Price is truly shocking but not suprising on the suppression of his work.

I have come to some very stark conclusions on my health after finding out that my teeth have not been as healthy as I thought. After looking back on my life the last 4-5 years, I have realized something significant. I had a very painful toothache about 5 years ago that went up to my eyebrow area and suffered with pain for a couple weeks before someone gave me colloidal silver and within 24 hours it was gone and I was pain free. But now that I look back, I have noticed something. Since that time, I have had alot of difficulty in critical thinking and putting thoughts into cognizant form. In 2004 I was in online college and was very sharp and could write very well. These days it is very difficult for me to even write this post. I am slow and can barely keep focused on one thought.

I am very good at reading something and understanding it fully but if you asked me to explain what I read I would have a hard time expressing it. The dots have really connected for me that this is due to not only the silver/mercury fillings I have had since childhood but probably due to an apparent infection from these teeth that has never properly been resolved. Of course in hindsight, I wish I had taken the colloidal silver for a much longer time to insure the best possible removal of any infection.

Being that the colloidal silver has the maximum particle surface area of effectiveness, I think I should get some and start taking it again along with the MMS.

I am very lucky that my ex-boyfriend is paying for the extractions and the partial up front and letting me pay him back. Without any insurance this would have been impossible. I am very grateful that we are still friends and he is so kind to help.

Thank you Bill from the bottom of my heart. :)

Bless,
Annette

[4evrneo]

I dont know why you are having these pulled. Its probably not necessary and if you think life is great with a partial think again.

did you look for one of these kinds of dentists in your area? here's a directory.
http://www.mouthmattersbook.com/resources/directory/

There are only 3 holistic dentists in my area and charge over 200 for just an exam. They also do not accept my discount plan at all so this is a financial situation. Not only that but when my filling fell out, half my tooth broke off with it. They cannot just fill it and put a crown on it.

[4evrneo]

Annette,
I am so happy you are yanking them...oral infections are so insidious. I have suffered from the failed effects of a root canal, and continue to have issues with my sinuses and also cystic acne ...which I can tell you got better after the failed root canal tooth was removed. However, I have cavities that have gotten much worse in the same area, and my symptoms are flaring up again. I had awesome oral health prior to having my second child, but I world gladly lose a few teeth to have her ;)

~Amanda

Thank you Amanda for sharing your experience. I had no idea that the acne was at all related to dental issues but I have been reading that so many more people suffer from this also and directly connect it to the dental health. Everyone in my family was shocked that I suddenly went from perfect skin to the skin I have now.

I too am thankful that so many people here have shared their stories, it has really opened my eyes and made me realize I cant put this off any longer.

Bless,
Annette

[kanishk]

What else can we do when tooth cavity causes pain while eating?

From 4 years my tooth is decaying and I eat only from one side. Just now that hole in tooth got big enough covering 30% area, that food particles can easily get cleaned. Sensitivity is also reduced, but I still cant freely chew big food from that side.

Approximately~ 14 years back I first showed my teeth to doctor, then again three times. Again 6 yrs back to many doctors and PG students{I was curious about bulbous round formation, they called it buccal mucosa and suggested me to remove it}, not found any decaying of tooth. Again 4yr ago to many renowned doctors and PG students took good quality X-ray of all my teeth for their academic exams {I was suffering from salivary gland stone} and then in just 2 month after that my tooth break and got hole in it from inside. After X-rays they prescribed me RCT.

:painkiller:

[Eram]

[...


I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

[...]

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.

That choice is not in all situations an easy one to make Bill.

In this photo, which is taken from my teeth some months ago, you can see that I'm not particularly eager to have these teeth with a root canal treatment pulled.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/520/image91n.jpg

I might end up like the charming picture (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52986-Help---Need-holistic-dental-information&p=597192&viewfull=1#post597192) that Whitefeather added in this thread :)


I will read the book though.

This thread has made me aware of the dangers and I will inform myself in the offered solutions here.


Good luck with your teeth 4evrneo !

[blufire]

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I've been late getting to this thread! Apologies.

I had a molar root canal treatment 20 years ago, and 10 years ago was in line to have another. The holistic dentist I visited, in Edinburgh, did something extraordinary: she personally lent me a book of hers, urged me to read it overnight, and asked me to come back the next day. She said she would then do whatever I chose.

I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

The scientific evidence was overwhelming that root canal treatments can at least sometimes lead to serious chronic illness. It's all documented.

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.


Bill . . . Did you and/or do you think you had some type of chronic illness from the root canal you had 20 years ago? If you did, did the chronic illness go away after the root canal tooth was removed?

Did you have some type of removable appliance made to replace teeth, like a partial, so your other teeth didn't shift or move to fill the empty spaces of the extracted teeth?

I personally have had three root canals with precious metal (gold) porcelain (tooth colored) crowns that protect the teeth with the root canals. My dentist used pure silver to fill the root canals in the teeth. The oldest is 15 years. I do not have any type of chronic illness or disease.

I do have osteoarthritis in both knees but this is form playing high school and college sports (basketball and track and field) and from climbing mountains all my life.

[TheTwo]

thanks everyone involved in this thread, really opened my eyes on one more franchise of big-pharma business...

back in highschool, i was sent to get free dental treatment, he counted 18 fillings that needs to be done.
The choice given to me was put like this: "what type of filling would you like? normal - lasts few years, or silver ones - lasts 10+ years and disinfects the mouth. Both options are free, i recommend silver because it lasts longer..."
I was 18, trusted doctors like everyone else without back thought, and got myself about 10-12 heavy metal bullets in my mouth

just recently learned what they are actually made of, and going to clear them out properly as soon as possible...

thanks for sharing everyone! :painkiller::yo:

[RunningDeer]

Holistic Dentistry Q&A


"Let the TOOTH Be Known...: Are Your Teeth Making You Sick?"
by Dawn Ewing, RDH, PhD, ND
March 31, 2021

https://i.imgur.com/0xxGrad.png



Amazon summary (https://www.amazon.com/Let-TOOTH-Be-Known-Making/dp/B091DWWCJ7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1JG0RB90X2ZAI&keywords=let+the+tooth+be+known&qid=1701021266&sprefix=let+the+tooth+be+known,aps,153&sr=8-1):




Are your teeth making you sick? This helpful guide through biological dentistry is a must-read for anyone with a compromised immune system – or who wants to make wise dental choices to sustain their current health. Learn about the risks of mercury amalgam fillings, root canals, cavitations, and other obstacles to health.

Find out what your dentist should do to keep you safe. Author Dr. Dawn Ewing is a naturopathic physician in Houston, Texas, and Executive Director of the International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine (IABDM). But she began her career as a dental hygienist after graduating from the University of Texas Dental School in 1988. She was appointed to the Texas State Board of Dental Examiners by the governor and served two terms.

A thirst for knowledge about the human body immersed her in the world of emergency medicine. Becoming a Nationally Registered Paramedic, she spent 12 years on a 911 ambulance and 4 years in international air ambulance transport. She began teaching CPR to the public, Advanced Cardiac Life Support to health care providers and became an affiliate faculty member of the American Heart Association in 1987.

She was drawn back into dentistry by a biological dentist. He was looking for someone with knowledge of the body as a whole, not just the mouth. This new excitement led her to return to school for a doctorate in naturopathy, a PhD in holistic nutrition, and a doctorate in integrative medicine.



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GHWC Q & A WITH DR. DAWN EWING AND LISA THOMAS (1:06:00)




October, 2023
(posted November 26, 2023)

Join Lisa Thomas - Director of the Global Health and Wellness Consortium, and Dr. Dawn Ewing, Executive Director of the International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine - for an educational Q&A interview session with a live audience from around the world!

This ongoing health series includes topics and pertinent natural solutions that are highly informative for self-healing and planetary restoration.


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[onawah]

Dr. Ana Mihalcea shows images of the same crystalline microchips found in vaccines that she has also found in dental anesthetics (as well as in some widely used pharmaceuticals).

See: https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/darkfield-microscopy-of-dental-anesthetics

[AnitaT]

Dr. Ana Mihalcea shows images of the same crystalline microchips found in vaccines that she has also found in dental anesthetics (as well as in some widely used pharmaceuticals).

See: https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/darkfield-microscopy-of-dental-anesthetics




Wow, what a powerful thread.

I am facing a root canal, but just decide to have it pulled instead, and made the appointment for next week.

What a relief - to decide to have it pulled - after reading this thread.
It is abscessed and rinsing it with colloidal silver three times a day.
On the plus side, it has a mercury filling, so its going with the tooth.

Now I am concerned about those crystalline microchips in dental anaesthetics.
My view on the vax=clot shot.

[AnitaT]

I had cancelled the appointment, its the needles, and my underlying concern about whats in the needles.
At first I couldn't find anything about it, and found this:

link: https://substack.com/home/post/p-142568021?source=queue

title: Lignocaine re-visited
David Nixon
Mar 13, 2024


There are a LOT pictured & video of how whats in the needle builds itself into a crystal in the blood.
But the end pictures shows when sodium citrate was added and no square crystals created.


The name Lignocaine is another name for Xylocaine - and this is what most dentists use here in Ontario Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidocaine
The above is considered a weak anaesthetic solution.


IF a stronger anaesthetic solution is needed:

link: https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/septocaine-dental-anesthetic-mixed

title: Septocaine Dental Anesthetic Mixed With Live Blood: Swarming Micro Robots Kill Blood Cells In 20 Minutes

lots of pictures and a couple of short videos.

[John Hilton]

I can't really comment on Lignocaine. I live in Greece and I don't know where the dental supplies are sourced but it's probably not the USA due to import taxes. I do believe that many injected materials are contaminated because of filthy factory conditions, poor pay and abysmal quality control. But I don't believe the fearmongering about deliberate inclusion of self-assembling robot nanoparticles, etc. I'm an engineer; I know how difficult it is to assemble a life-size robot with some ordinary miniature parts so getting something that's too small to see to assemble itself is just a fairytale. The best we can manage is to introduce something to make corpuscles stick together to form blood clots.

Edit to add that I've had about six root canal fillings and crowns over the last fifteen years. No obvious problems so far.

I did get rid of all amalgam fillings before moving here to Greece because I developed autoimmune problems.

[Paul D.]

John Hilton - "But I don't believe the fearmongering about deliberate inclusion of self-assembling robot nanoparticles, etc. I'm an engineer; I know how difficult it is to assemble a life-size robot with some ordinary miniature parts so getting something that's too small to see to assemble itself is just a fairytale"

There is overwhelming evidence of the existence of self - assembling nanotech .It is in the convid vaccines .I don't know about the dental ones ,so I can't comment on that but the tech does exist.
I'm not going to search & provide the many links that are on this forum & elsewhere for you.I suggest you do so before writing such a dismissive comment on such a massively important & concerning topic. Onawah's work would be a good place to start.