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Fred Steeves
12th December 2012, 22:04
We see the truly important things most clearly when we are near death, but that's always a long way off isn't it? And by then it's also too late. In the meantime though, it's oh so easy to despise others in the name of being "right", or any other myriad of reasons, is it not?
Personally anyway, I want to die with a light heart, and no regrets. Not so easy a task, but flashing back through the faces of people I still consider enemies in those final moments would be unbearable, and not an optimum state of mind for the big transition to say the least. I can see the thought process now: "What the bleep was I thinking??!!"
Fortunately there are measures that can be taken to avoid this situation, but now I am curious. How do YOU feel about having enemies?
Cheers,
Fred
Tesla_WTC_Solution
12th December 2012, 22:11
Dear Fred,
you have chosen the highest road,
following that silver thread so few can see,
the heavenly road and the heavenly gate stand open,
in full view and the wheel has come full circle.
Don't be afraid, because the witness of the truth of your words
and the weight of your actions and the legacy of your life
will stand forever; like the acacia tree,
a sweet perfume in the garden of the future of mankind.
The kingdom of God is built without hands,
and who are we that build temples of stone and clay,
and tombs full of bones, and yet,
the light still shines in the darkness,
and the darkness has not overcome it.
"bidden or unbidden, God is present" ~Carl Jung
"They don't want us to be whole, because then we would be powerful" ~Tori Amos
"He has chosen the weak things of the world to bring to nought the things which are mighty" ~Madeleine L'Engle, HB
"the meek shall inherit the earth" ~JC
"...an ecstasy of joy that ends in tears" ~Friedrich Nietzsche on mediumistic experience and the point of love and life
Remember that the Beyond is comfortable, calm, and happy.
There is nothing to fear once fear is overcome.
And yes, I have friends who are enemies and family who are spies,
and I've pissed off every major company I've heard of (well mostly)
I live in paranoia that has subsided into a low hum, like a stomach growl
Carmen
12th December 2012, 22:12
I don't have enemies! It's so much easier that way. I love the life force and the life force is in everyone and everything. Everyone is doing the best they can from their perspective.
Lifebringer
12th December 2012, 22:39
Thank you for reminding me. Guess i came to the right thread just now, as I've changed since the last time I thought about this one woman, who cheated with my 1st husband who was an abusive and violent mentally deranged "shotgun wedding husband." Anyway years after the divorce and raising his only daughter I've moved on and don't hate or hold anything on him, it was my experience I guess to go through, possibly because of arrogantly or egotisticly in some other life DID NOT understand a woman going through domestic violence or being ruled by a pimp. I have two children by a pimp that never did me on the street, i was his afterlife (lol byche) Once a pimp always a user pimp, he still didn't change his ways and slept with 4 family members, 2 cousins and two sisters. Anyway getting back to MR. shotgun husband, he cheated with a neighbor and here it was 35 yrs later, the girl who did it , asked to be a friend on facebook because my Mom and her Grandmother were friends for a long time. I wished at the time, that I had a internet middle finger to shove in her face and just "x'd" her out instead.
Long story short, I realized that I hadn't forgiven the girl and I say girl because she was 16 and my shotgun hubby was 21, but WE know women mature faster than women so I would put her nature at 18, because anyone that will knock on a bck door to have sex in a woman's bed, as she lay in the hospital giving birth, definately didn't think of what she had sown, but was used or overwhelmed at a budding age with no guidance and fell into a crush.
So now i can not only free her of that, but myself of the memory.
As Bob Hope used to say: "Thanks For the Memories."
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Thank you for reminding me. Guess i came to the right thread just now, as I've changed since the last time I thought about this one woman, who cheated with my 1st husband who was an abusive and violent mentally deranged "shotgun wedding husband." Anyway years after the divorce and raising his only daughter I've moved on and don't hate or hold anything on him, it was my experience I guess to go through, possibly because of arrogantly or egotisticly in some other life DID NOT understand a woman going through domestic violence or being ruled by a pimp. I have two children by a pimp that never did me on the street, i was his afterlife (lol byche) Once a pimp always a user pimp, he still didn't change his ways and slept with 4 family members, 2 cousins and two sisters. Anyway getting back to MR. shotgun husband, he cheated with a neighbor and here it was 35 yrs later, the girl who did it , asked to be a friend on facebook because my Mom and her Grandmother were friends for a long time. I wished at the time, that I had a internet middle finger to shove in her face and just "x'd" her out instead.
Long story short, I realized that I hadn't forgiven the girl and I say girl because she was 16 and my shotgun hubby was 21, but WE know women mature faster than men so I would put her nature at 18, because anyone that will knock on a bck door to have sex in a woman's bed, as she lay in the hospital giving birth, definately didn't think of what she had sown, but was used or overwhelmed at a budding age with no guidance and fell into a crush.
So now i can not only free her of that, but myself of the memory.
As Bob Hope used to say: "Thanks For the Memories."
lisalu
12th December 2012, 22:45
Hi Fred,
Funny you should bring up this subject. I was recently moved to do something about this. I have this in-law who has been a person who I have had real negative feeling towards, it reached a point of interfering with family holidays.I wouldn't go.I carried this baggage and it weighed me down. So I wrote her a letter, and spoke from my heart, without pointing fingers or even addressing the thing that drove us apart. It was just time, for me anyway, to let this thing go. She called me with such gratitude for writing to her. A huge weight was lifted and we are no longer "enemies" ,and I am free. That was just one incident where it was appropriate for me to actually do something. What motivated me to do this was thinking about being on my deathbed with regrets. The others, I just forgive. They can't hurt me anymore. And that too was liberating. You asked, and there it is...for me. Llisa
SlickWillie
12th December 2012, 22:51
Can it be defined as, "people I'd rather not associate with had I the choice"....but I guess this brings me back to my struggle with wanting all to be one. Guess I need to further improve my forgiveness. But then again, after forgiveness I'm not sure if oneness has to be through physical association.
Anchor
12th December 2012, 22:59
Define, for the sake of this thread, what you mean by enemy.
For my part, I would like to think I don't have any. I am sure there are people who I have annoyed in some manner that think poorly of me, but none who are what you might call an ongoing mortal enemy locked in some bitter fight to the death vendetta.
I have billions of other-selves. Most dont know me. Of those small number that do, some love me while some do not or dont have an opinion. Some given the opportunity may even hate me. If they do, I am not aware of it.
Do (or did I ever) I attract enemies into my life? Now that one is an interesting question - because I remember that I had some people at school that were playing the game of being my enemy. I didn't like them very much at the time, but stuff like that doesn't happen now.
I have challenges from organizations - like the tax office. I don't think I have any actual enemies there, they are just following their process that has been inspired by distorted, service to self thought form that most of the slaves there are not even aware of. My dealings with them is probably something karmic that I attracted into my life to deal with. So in the end I will thank the bastards for giving me the opportunity to do that <ironic grin/>
Fred Steeves
12th December 2012, 23:13
Define, for the sake of this thread, what you mean by enemy.
Hi John, I think I'll leave it to each individual what they consider to be an enemy. We've all had them, or still do, from little Sallymuckinsmuch in kindergarden, who rudely stuck her tongue out at us after being asked to hold her hand, to the interdimensional entities we have discovered who lord over this 3-D realm.
Cheers Mate,
Fred
Chester
12th December 2012, 23:19
Whenever I experience having an enemy, I always know where to find him... the one standing in the mirror.
norman
12th December 2012, 23:30
I have a few enemies and there's a noticeable pattern to it.
They have a notion that I look down on them. It pushes their buttons every time I yawn at their own conversation and generate my own conversation that they struggle to have a contribution to throw into it.
Having a bunch of people who'd love to chop me down a peg or two, IS, having enemies, I think.
Fred Steeves
12th December 2012, 23:33
Whenever I experience having an enemy, I always know where to find him... the one standing in the mirror.
Aha, public enemy #1... http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/nod.gif
So NOW what?
kaon
12th December 2012, 23:36
Hmmmm. I guess I do have a few, not including the kids from grade school in the 60's, lol. Nothing along the lines of mortal enemies though. Perhaps my wife's ex would be the closest to that.
As far as disliking me, I could name some, but I don't know if they would qualify as an enemy.
I haven't made any inter-dimensional enemies that I know of. Hopefully I made a friend or two there, but they have not made it known to me either way.
I guess it's good to have to really think about your question. I could answer the opposite question without having to think as much.
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Whenever I experience having an enemy, I always know where to find him... the one standing in the mirror.
Haha! Yes! I agree 100% with that.
spiritguide
12th December 2012, 23:53
Accepting an enemy is not my favor. Anyone who thinks of me as an enemy has a problem and it is not accepted by myself. To have a friend both parties need to agree that they are friends, likewise the same for enemies. To think of another as enemy allows negativity to affect the heart center. Do not fear love.
:peace:
DeDukshyn
13th December 2012, 00:51
I got rid of my enemies about 10 years ago. Funnily enough, not allowing one particular person to be my enemy, no matter how hard he tried, protected me from him getting me fired from my job. He tried extremely hard, but I would not participate, I would not react out badly toward him no matter what. In the end it was HIM who got fired because it became obvious to others that we weren't just having "differences" - as it may have been seen if I played his game, but that all his intentions were to get me fired. The boss wasn't keen on that. ;) He got fired and I got promoted. Instant Karma, baby :cool:
shadowstalker
13th December 2012, 00:56
I don't fear my so called enemies, they teach me what not to be. and they (my so called enemies) tent to fall quickly.
Mozart
13th December 2012, 01:01
I don't have any enemies left, save for one last one ... I killed 'em all. :laser: :cool:
Just one more to go ... the eff'n Cabal.
Fred Steeves
13th December 2012, 01:04
Does anyone else think our enemies can actually be our teachers? And of course vice versa?
norman
13th December 2012, 01:06
yup, our social enemies stop us from getting away with being ignorant all the time.
edit:
Our REAL Enemies ?
That's a very much deeper matter. On the surface it looks different but deep down in karmic/soul level, who knows ?
peace
13th December 2012, 01:29
You're awesome. Just wanted to say it.
To your question: I've made a good, not great, effort at righting any wrongs with so called enemies. The emotional energy spent harboring anger can be just too much. But I've still failed to reach out to one or two people I would consider, at the very least, on my "bad" list.
Not having regrets is something I've never understood, or strived to. Seems impossible.
mosquito
13th December 2012, 01:37
Myself !!!
norman
13th December 2012, 01:41
Myself !!!
Are you sure that's not the horse your soul is riding into this world. As in, something Bill said a while ago about our 2 separate 'memories'. The Soul memory and the Body memory.
I'm not sure which is which in my own case, but his definition certainly made me realize there is a difference.
Carmody
13th December 2012, 01:54
We see the truly important things most clearly when we are near death, but that's always a long way off isn't it? And by then it's also too late. In the meantime though, it's oh so easy to despise others in the name of being "right", or any other myriad of reasons, is it not?
Personally anyway, I want to die with a light heart, and no regrets. Not so easy a task, but flashing back through the faces of people I still consider enemies in those final moments would be unbearable, and not an optimum state of mind for the big transition to say the least. I can see the thought process now: "What the bleep was I thinking??!!"
Fortunately there are measures that can be taken to avoid this situation, but now I am curious. How do YOU feel about having enemies?
Cheers,
Fred
I'm not aware of having any enemies. Except, right now, the UPS folks.....who want me to pay a $66 brokerage fee for a parcel. I'm plenty pissed with them. why, I haven't sworn (turned the air blue) this much since ....yesterday.
norman
13th December 2012, 01:57
I'm not aware of having any enemies. Except, right now, the UPS folks.....who want me to pay a $66 brokerage fee for a parcel. I'm plenty pissed with them. why, I haven't sworn (turned the air blue) this much since ....yesterday.
That just made me see that when having 'enemies' becomes a granular constant, it's called struggle.
Anchor
13th December 2012, 02:03
I got rid of my enemies about 10 years ago.
LOL! AK47? Edged weapons? What was the secret ;)
DeDukshyn
13th December 2012, 02:05
I got rid of my enemies about 10 years ago.
LOL! AK47? Edged weapons? What was the secret ;)
Shhhht! :p I'm a "good guy" remember? ;)
Tangri
13th December 2012, 02:30
We see the truly important things most clearly when we are near death, but that's always a long way off isn't it? And by then it's also too late. In the meantime though, it's oh so easy to despise others in the name of being "right", or any other myriad of reasons, is it not?
Personally anyway, I want to die with a light heart, and no regrets. Not so easy a task, but flashing back through the faces of people I still consider enemies in those final moments would be unbearable, and not an optimum state of mind for the big transition to say the least. I can see the thought process now: "What the bleep was I thinking??!!"
Fortunately there are measures that can be taken to avoid this situation, but now I am curious. How do YOU feel about having enemies?
Cheers,
Fred
Potentially , every person can be your enemy or friends, depends on with what situation, mood, subjects conflicts you meet them. Making an enemy is easier then making a friend. Than try to be invisible most of your time.
jagman
13th December 2012, 02:39
Yin and yang Fred. There can be no good without evil, No friend without foe.
Its the balancing act of the cosmos. No matter without antimatter, No positive
electron without a negative electron etc... Or this could all be bull****
Carmody
13th December 2012, 02:40
I got rid of my enemies about 10 years ago.
LOL! AK47? Edged weapons? What was the secret ;)
Shhhht! :p I'm a "good guy" remember? ;)
The multi-purpose one is a ole' standby.
http://wstoollibrary.org/files/2011/09/Shovel-pic.jpg
Watch out for rocky areas.
Kinda like watching cats trying to bury crap on a cement floor. Painful to watch and a bit embarrassing. ("Yer doin' it wrong!")
Teti75
13th December 2012, 02:51
In my own experience I have learned that the only way to see me is with a mirror.
So everybody reflect me something especially my own evil
ouch!! ...
Deep breath and accept. I have no enemies I have huge mirrors
Cheers
Carmody
13th December 2012, 02:51
I'm not aware of having any enemies. Except, right now, the UPS folks.....who want me to pay a $66 brokerage fee for a parcel. I'm plenty pissed with them. why, I haven't sworn (turned the air blue) this much since ....yesterday.
That just made me see that when having 'enemies' becomes a granular constant, it's called struggle.
It's a ridiculously unimportant thing to be upset about, which is why I said it. And yes, I agree. It goes back to that thing that I've said..which is that to really be free of this place, we might want to consider a full withdrawal from all human contact. Every last grain of sand must leave one's pockets. And in order to do that, integration with others will have to go by the wayside. People have to fix themselves, one cannot do it for them. This is a tough planet to incarnate on. For anyone.
Wind
13th December 2012, 02:57
My worst enemy has been myself. I suppose that it is part of this duality experience.
I see all as One so I cannot anymore hate anyone and I hope that no one hates me. Perhaps someone dislikes me, but it doesn't bother me at all because there is nothing that I could do to change that. I just have infinite love for everyone!
Carolin
13th December 2012, 03:36
There are a few people that I've had to cut out of my life completely. I used to pray, meditate, forgive, write letters, etc to try and repair these relationships because that's what I thought was the spiritual thing to do. I finally realized that I wasn't honouring myself by tolerating their lying, drama, sense of entitlement and unstable behaviour. Does that make them my enemy, maybe, because they certainly aren't my friends.
I could die with the way things are because my conscious is clear.
Fred Steeves
13th December 2012, 10:24
There are a few people that I've had to cut out of my life completely. I used to pray, meditate, forgive, write letters, etc to try and repair these relationships because that's what I thought was the spiritual thing to do. I finally realized that I wasn't honouring myself by tolerating their lying, drama, sense of entitlement and unstable behaviour. Does that make them my enemy, maybe, because they certainly aren't my friends.
I could die with the way things are because my conscious is clear.
Hi Carolin, that's pretty much the way I see it too. What you describe doesn't sound like an enemy, just people who would make your life intolerable by associating with them, big difference. The crux of the matter is can we bless them on their merry way, without harboring that cancerous animosity.
Cheers,
Fred
P.S. Funny the things we do because we think it would be "spiritual", :fie: I'm with you there too.
daddy fishwick
13th December 2012, 10:33
An enemy provides great motivation for change, and my enemies enemy is my friend.
Tony
13th December 2012, 10:37
It all depend on what one terms an enemy. If enemy is someone who has a dislike or aversion or hatred for you.
(In my book there is no difference, it's just varying degrees of the same thing.)
Then...everyone!
I don't mind, it's just that I seem to piss off everyone I meet. I can see their point!
Lovely inside,
Tony
Fred Steeves
13th December 2012, 10:45
It all depend on what one terms an enemy. If enemy is someone who has a dislike or aversion or hatred for you.
Hi Tony, just how you described above, but only how we feel about them. How they feel about us is their problem IMO.
Tony
13th December 2012, 11:10
It all depend on what one terms an enemy. If enemy is someone who has a dislike or aversion or hatred for you.
Hi Tony, just how you described above, but only how we feel about them. How they feel about us is their problem IMO.
Hello Fred,
You are right it is their problem...but, when someone comes within my vicinity, then we have a karmic connection, so I have a responsibility to that situation. Over the past two years I have had to learn so much, in such a short space of time. There is always the dilemma of saying or not saying something. To support or "silence is golden".
People churn out a saying like..."The wise do not speak". Well, we have minds and voices, (and fingers) they are useful tools to communicate.
An enemy is only how we translate an action. The actually enemy is our own reaction, which disturbs inner peace.
But then again, it's good that inner peace 'is' disturbed, it shows we are not vegetables, and empathy can then join the action.
But then again, an enemy is our best friend. Our reaction show us where we are at in evolution, so we should be grateful.
Even being pissed off can be useful!
your mate,
Tony
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