abducting & being benevolent?

[mojo]

Hi all,
I'm trying to understand how people with abduction scenarios can still claim a positive experience with ETs. How is it possible? The two acts seem opposing, abducting and benevolence. There are a number of abductees out there that claim this and not just the milab ones. I'm wondering if it's more the Stocholm syndrome. Or does it speak more about the variety of ETs?

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy, sympathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them.

What is the benchmark to measure a benevolent contact.

[Wind]

Some abductees are being "upgraded" and others are being used as test subjects against their will. It's a big difference.

[mojo]

This video helped to see a different POV.

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[RMorgan]

Hey Mojo,

I´ve heard many people say that ETs have the ability to induce people to feel certain emotions while abducted, something like hypnosis; Supposedly they can easily do whatever experiments they want and you would still feel good about it.

So, they might appear to someone as beautiful angels saying beautiful messages, while in fact, they´re sticking needles into your brain.

Honestly mate, I admit you have big "cojones" for going out at night, in the woods, all alone, and film your UFOs.

Independently of the reasons of an abduction, for experimentation or for "upgrades", taking a person anywhere against his will can´t be considered ethical under any perspective.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Wind]

Independently of the reasons of an abduction, for experimentation or for "upgrades", taking a person anywhere against his will can´t be considered ethical under any perspective.


I agree, but I believe that some kind of an pre-incarnate agreement has been made before you are being taken. I know that the malevolent races don't care about ethics and they bend the rules to their will, but I'm not sure that they could just pick anyone from the street just like that. There has to be somekind of a calling for that. Of course I could be wrong.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

There are a few scenarios at play here and there is no simple answer.

There have been many cases where people have been adjusted for their own good. Its the lion paw syndrome ( for want of a better term ) where the lion has a nail in the paw and the zoo keeper stuns it for surgery and then let back into the wild. Like the lion we believe it to be primitive and hostile but still needs medical attention naturally the zoo keeper dosent want to have its face re arranged by a non understanding wild animal, so it it subdued prior to surgery.

Second scenario is consentual where by the alien faction and human have a mature and understanding agreement. This should only be undertaken by people who have studied contact and know how to go about it. Within this there is sometimes things done tht even the human does not understand but gets done anyway. They, as in the alien faction, have superior knowledge and sometimes do not feel the need to go into long winded explanations when they know the change will benefit the human. The human will retrospectively eventually get it and then understand whats happened. I know this scenario very well and have been involved since 1974.

Third scenario is abductions from humanoid factions posing as alien. The particular factions modus operandi is to blame another race in order to deflect responsibility. Humanoid experimenters are the ones with the highest motive for experimentation and have the crudest methods. This scenario is the one thats making aliens out to be the bogey man. Its part of their agenda to fill us with fear and its working remarkably well.

Fourth scenario is alien species being used under falce contract with humanoid factions to do " tagging " ie advanced rfid tech to keep tabs on certain individuals. Again sponsored and instigated by humanoid species.

Fifth scenario are mutilations or murders blamed on alien species with no proof to deflect and further push the fear agenda.

It has been documented that cow mutilations have been done by human scientists and tech ops.

There are other scenarios that i am un aware of.

First in order to find a culpret you need to first establish motive. There are very few if any valid motives for alien spcies to want to reverse engineer a species they helped design and engineer in the first place and have been doing tnis for millions of years.,

Behavioural science on the other hand is motive and i conceed they are extremely interested in studying out behavioural habits and emotives. Just like a zoo keeper documents and studies the behaviour of species, so too do they. We are to them a lesser and more primitive species and in most cases its true however they still believe they can learn from us, perhaps they wish to know where they went wrong, why did we turn out to be so dispondant and detached from nature. What motivates us emotionally to act in certain ways. They are absoutely fascinated with our capacity for arts and creativity indeed they are trying to instill some balance between scence and emotions as we hav become extremely emotional as a species.

. We are under the presumption that we are the highest sentient being on this planet but thats far from true. Plants, imo, are the highest of sentient life here.

Its something we need to be mature about in understanding that we are not alone and indeed the model of scociety we have here as in plant, animal, mineral and human as a heirachy often extends as a basic model out there too. Within this model the more advanced races feel it it their right to experiment and understand a " lesser species " . for example humans hunt, capture and torture animals and in most cases harvest them for food. Humans also abduct and experiment on genetic manipulations of plant and wild life all without any concent of the abductee. Humanoids are the most cruel and pri itive of all species on this planet presently. With little or not respect for the sentient life of our own planet. No regard for its longevity indeed we find our selves at a tipping point.

Do not worry, if you do not wish to be in contact they will leave you alone. The other 20% of cases where you have no say in it you can blame your humanoid scientific and governmental establishment.

Hope this clarifies something for you

N

[DreamsInDigital]

Benevolent ETs do not abduct people against their will or do anything to violate another being's free will. Only Negative ETs do that against their will, doesn't mean that Negative ETs wont use false illusions to appear benevolent, that is done all the time (look at channeled messages from "ETs" to get an idea). But there is the simplest and shortest answer.

[mojo]

Alex Collier, Bill Ryan, Carlos Diaz, Barney Hill, Whitely Strieber, Camille Harman, Simon, etc...likely the list is much longer...the video below what got me thinking and if you ask many of the people abducted most would be neutral or have positive experiences.

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[donk]

positive and negative are relative qualities.

Whoever is abducting...it's "good" for them, right? or why would they do it?

As to the "abducted", it depends on their point of view, don't it?

[baddbob]

What I dont understand is why are abductions still going on? Once they have the info that they seek why would they keep abducting people?

[Kryztian]

Compare human beings and their relations to deer. Some of us go out and hunt them for their meet. Others watch over their environment. Occasionally, they are captured and tagged, just as humans are abducted and an implant is placed inside of them. Ironically, it is the more benevolent humans that they deer encounter when the are "abducted."

I think looking at the abduction process is key to understanding "Why are they here? What are their intentions?" and after all the listening and reading I've done, I still don't have a clear picture. My best guess is that they are creating a new species based on our genetics. I think they are interested in the spiritual development of human species, but they are also want to see the development of a new species.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

What I dont understand is why are abductions still going on? Once they have the info that they seek why would they keep abducting people?

Good question. Motives and factins, many humaoid factions. Human scientists do harvest body parts. Its a lucrative business. People with enough coin can get anything replaced if they wish.

The long and the short of it is this. Like the video suggested, there is the good and bad and ugly everywhere. Its impossible for there only to be malevolent species out there and its impossible for there to only be benevolent species out there.

We have very limited power against these scenaros, we dont even have control over our own governments so to live in fear is not smart. Its not a hopeless position. Id have to say its importwnt to find who your ancestors are, and connect with them and get back in touch. Believe me they will step in and keep you provided for if need be. We all talk about evolving, we simply cannot evolve without understanding other sentient life forms and what it takes to understand respect to be connected with them.

In other words you dont get a free ride, you dont get to graduate without making the effort to learn. Why should you get a free ride? Higher forms or scoieties are higher because they have members that have evolved. I certainly dont want to have gone to all the trouble of evolving to a higher plane and finding a bush sitting next to me, id feel ripped off. So understand these concepts. Dont expect a free ride. It clearly dosent work that way.

Hints

Like attracts like

And

You are what you eat.

Most importantly and whats always over looked is the " fear factor " . Fear attracts malevolent beings, end of story. If you are fearful they will find you. So fear all you want but for gods sake realise thats such a basic of attractants to bad evolution. If you dont have the courage to at least be neutral and look at things from a detached and analytical stand point without becoming emotional for no reason, then you are just making it worse for your self.

In order to evolve we have to let go and realise we have very little control except for our micro life. The macro life, forget it, out of your control. Control is the very cause of evil upon this planet so dont be a party to it. Let go and evolve.

I hope i dont come across as rude, its not my intention but speaking plainly and factually without the sugar coating is nessesary.

N

[delfine]

I´ve just finished reading Judy Carrolls books: "The Zeta message" and "Human by day Zeta by night" and they have made a huge difference for me
in understanding this complicated subject. In short, she is living a parallel life as a Zeta and shares a very informative and amazingly entertaining and humorous
insider-story about what it´s really like being a Zeta, and how life is on board a disc. I can only encourage you to read these books. They are unique and
very important IMO.

[Spiral]

Hi all,
I'm trying to understand how people with abduction scenarios can still claim a positive experience with ETs. How is it possible? The two acts seem opposing, abducting and benevolence. There are a number of abductees out there that claim this and not just the milab ones. I'm wondering if it's more the Stocholm syndrome. Or does it speak more about the variety of ETs?

There are as many agendas as there are other races visiting us, and then some !


Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy, sympathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them.

What is the benchmark to measure a benevolent contact.

For me its when I get something out of it that moves me "forward", and that can take many forms.

One thing that I've never seen anyone say, as people have spoken of MILABs following an ET abduction, is that it works the other way too.

There are beings out there observing the MILABs and then doing follow ups, good guys that patch you up. Maybe its my "star family" in my case, who knows, for ever answer there arises a multitude of questions.

[LisAlien]

I think the majority of us have no memory of it so we can't render it good or bad. We basically remember what took place leading up to said-abduction and immediately afterward. The in between is blank. But some are either waking up to this memory or had it all along.
I think the fact that we're here to talk about it, lends support that most are benevolent events.
But the question begs: What do they want?

[Shade]

The Greys are parasitic and for sure it's kind of a Stockholm Syndrome that people claim them as benevolent. Parasites do that to a person. Have you heard of toxoplasmosis for example? It is based in cats and gets passed on from them in their faeces. In rodents it gets into their brain and makes them love the smell of cat urine so that they go hang around it, they seek it out, so that the cats can eat them and the toxoplasmosis can complete its lifecycle. In humans it makes us love cats more (if that's possible and yes I am probably infected 33% of people are in fact infected) and are more likely to seek them out and own one.

Healthy, benevolent, creatures do not forcibly abduct other creatures. If a person has convinced themselves it was because of a soul agreement, or for their best interest, that is an attempted healing to a wound, a band aid which is covering a non acknowledgement of your sovereign freedom and that it has been ignored: it is covering a rape of your soul - underneath it is where your crown has been removed and is owned, not specifically by you.
It is an allowance of your sovereign self to be owned by ... well whatever is taking it. You can get used to something and find an explanation to make you feel better about it but when it comes down to it a highly evolved creature does not forcibly remove you from your reality for any reason. They introduce themselves and ask.
I am not saying the Greys 'have your crown' because they represent (and 100% are in actuality) a part of humanity, of our deep dream selves. The crown is really in the nothingness, asleep. Waiting, like the grail, to be reclaimed.

And being "upgraded"? ---> :::The extra special deluxe delusional band-aid:::

[Daughter of Time]

As an abductee/contactee I have been asking for help now for months in this community in understanding this situation and seeking knowledge in stopping any future abductions/contacts.

I have posted many of my experiences on the Horus-Ra thread, and lately, I've been posing questions to Simon Parks. Simon has stated that I "have been tricked" into letting them do whatever they did to me. And I won't go into everything that was done to me because it's much too long. As an explanation, Simon informed me that they like to abduct "gifted humans" and by "gifted" he means "psychic" as only some humans have psychic abilities that are of interest to them. And it is true that I've had psychic experiences as far back as I remember. I'd never mentioned to Simon that I had any psychic experiences, but he knew.

So while I understand the need to "study", I cannot possibly condone messing with a person's body and mind in order for them to understand how that human functions. To say this is unethical is an understatement.

The abduction when I was in my mid twenties and ova were extracted and other things were done, left me feeling elated, as if something magnificent had been done to me. They made me feel so special because they said "only the special ones are chosen". However, it resulted in a chaotic menstrual cycle which has never been fully rectified in spite of all the holistic approaches I've taken since then. The last contact this past spring, left me feeling terrified. I'm still in the process of healing from that one. i cannot possibly perceive benevolence in these beings.

The abductions/contacts have created havoc in my body, my mind, my emotions, and possibly my soul.

And while there is no doubt that benevolent beings from other realms do exist, they do not abduct!!! Benevolent beings would communicate their intentions and because they are so high minded, if they wish to help, they would certainly be able to do it without abducting. If they wanted to help without causing fear, they could simply come to you in your sleep and rectify whatever needs to be fixed. This would be akin to a benefactor making an anonymous donation to a cause. This type of scenario, however, has not been part of my experience as far as abductions go.

I will also mention that I have had angelic encounters, but these "angels" did not abduct me. They provided divine intervention a few times when it was greatly needed. BENEVOLENT BEINGS DO NOT ABDUCT!!!

[mojo]

Powerful testimony Daughter of Time ty.

So how do we measure good? I've noticed a few comments that there are different ways of looking at this subject.

-Nanoo's point is noted here, -the visitors are doing abductions for the betterment of something and the few abducted are lab studies, the same as humans doing scientific studies on chimps for the benefit of science.

-the visitors are afraid abductees wouldn't understand so they are taken against their will and memories are erased to prevent trauma.

- benevolent beings are visiting without abducting people. There are a number of people involved to some degree in contact in this category. (i.e. Many of the visitors to ECETI)

[donk]

Nice post DoT

I wish I could help, I'm seeking answers as well...not as intense a scenario as yours & not even me specifically, but it's important to compare notes
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As to the op, I believe we"re getting a little too into semantics. I believe the by definition if something were truly BENEVOLENT to humans, it would need to be completely open & honest, & never do anything w/o full understanding & consent.

I realize that seems near impossible in today's reality, and that seemingly some may be incapable of understanding, dealing with, or not be in denial about certain things...but I still stand by that belief, despite excellent examples of seeming exceptions.


Benevolence is relative to the individual. If someone doesn't want to be, doesn't know about, or even doesn't fully understand the abduction...the being is NOT benevolent--to them at least--even if you throw in the theoretical "24" scenario where the fate of the universe depends on you being tortured.

[Amysenthia]

Some abductees are being "upgraded" and others are being used as test subjects against their will. It's a big difference.

I agree with you StarSeed. My experiences have been positive and I have to say that this is probably because I only consciously remember friendly interaction. Nothing traumatic has ever been resurfaced in the conscious brain like anal probeing and such. What I remember of what I call my youthful visits where very kind, beautiful looking beings that worked with the gray types. I always knew that I was in an observational situation and was being "measured" in some way. I also had incredibly physic experiences as a child. OBEs, premonitions, telepathy that I always felt I had been "tweaked" somehow.

How else are "they" suppose to interact. It's not like your going to get a knock on the door. Being abducted versus going willingly is probably really the question.

[Shade]

Hi Daughter of Time, I went to bed last night thinking heavily about this, and I was feeling encouraged to do something about what you have spoken. A long time ago I spoke my mind to the grays http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26599-Are-the-greys-really-evil&p=597787&viewfull=1#post597787and as a consequence I might be in a position to have within me some codes for dealing with them. I say may. I going a little blind in this but I feel intuitively that I want to say something.

What I would really like to see is a global movement towards saying no. A gathering of intent and people together who are conscious that they do not wish to participate. A stand up and say no policy - this is my planet this is my body and my crown; not yours. There is a place and a time for saying no and claiming space and a time for allowance and openness and merging with 'all' - some things need to be put in their place here. I mean that in the sense of pure pieces of construction (harmonically in the deep psyche they are out of place in us) but also an incidental meaning is that they need to be put in their place*.

Your crown and sovereign freedom is yours and belongs to you. Sometimes you have to stand up for your crown and freedom, and sometimes you even have to fight for it. Call it self defense if you will. Not all wars end like mine did, but I will tell you now, I would not have done it differently because it really DID set me free of them - I reached my goal after all, because when I grew back my crown cannot be removed anymore and I see through the maya. Not that anyone's crown really can be truly taken (it just resides in the nothingness waiting to be reclaimed, or to be re seen, re-realised, upon your head) - because we are all sovereign of course but there is the deep reality, then there is the one you live, in the maya. If you can see through a maya the maya cannot hold you. That is part of freeing oneself from the greys, I think, understanding the maya of them. Their true identity and their illusion. And yours.

* And you can't be drawn into the illusions here you need to be straight about it. What you have experience of is what you have to go off. You cannot allow yourself to feel 'sorry' for them thereby allowing them to abuse you. You are NOT a lab creature - those who accept it are just accepting some strange state in which they are accepting being abused. You are a sovereign human being. And they have absolutely NO right to be doing ANYTHING that you do not approve of which disrupts your reality. None. Getting caught in the ego too is sick. Picked you cause you were special eh? Oh well then that's alright then - rape away.

And as I see it is it is truly a lesson in claiming ones sovereign crown because you have to claim sovereignty OVER a thing but the thing is that you must come to understand that they are not actually sovereign creatures themselves; not in their face as they are. You are actually their sovereign because you are master of your illusions. To become free you see yourself as your identity with crown and to do that you must see THEM in their crown as well but this identity is NOT them as they are - their form as greys is a MAYA. This is a very difficult thing to master especially for the softies -to claim your sceptre and crown - and I think this is where the teachings are needed in this situation. What allowance of them to abuse your sovereign space does is facilitates the maya and existence of non sovereign beings and identity faces, both you and them. The stating of your sovereign territory transforms both you and them. But to do that act of claiming ones power and spine is about being the serpent within and it can be very difficult but its worth it. Freedom is worth fighting for. Find the Wadjet of you.
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I will have a deep think about this and see what comes to me on it. Because of my intent in this, likely I will be getting some 'help' on it, if you know what I mean. ::stay tuned::

[Daughter of Time]

Hello Shade,

Thank you for posting your link about the greys. I had not read it.

The "feeling special" because they said "only the special ones are chosen" was a program which I actually believed at the time. It took me many years to realize I was carrying more programs than I realized and they were not serving me in any way, shape or form. But programs are powerful! And I was naive! I believed that ETs were a superior race who were here to help. This was another program. And while I do believe there are benevolent ETs who are here to help, this does not negate the damaging experiences I've had. All I have is my experiences to go by, and my experiences when it comes to ETs have been rather dark. As for those who have had good experiences with them, all I can say is: lucky them!

I also have been working at de-programming myself and reclaiming my autonomy.

I will stay tuned to your future posts.

[Shade]

Hello Shade,

Thank you for posting your link about the greys. I had not read it.

The "feeling special" because they said "only the special ones are chosen" was a program which I actually believed at the time. It took me many years to realize I was carrying more programs than I realized and they were not serving me in any way, shape or form. But programs are powerful! And I was naive! I believed that ETs were a superior race who were here to help. This was another program. And while I do believe there are benevolent ETs who are here to help, this does not negate the damaging experiences I've had. All I have is my experiences to go by, and my experiences when it comes to ETs have been rather dark. As for those who have had good experiences with them, all I can say is: lucky them!

I also have been working at de-programming myself and reclaiming my autonomy.

I will stay tuned to your future posts.

Hey.. the funny thing is that I had not read your previous post before going to bed - the one I responded to about wanting to put an end to the experiences. I just felt the push already on the issue from within. I do realise that you had moved through the ego thing, that I can see and it is easy to get into, especially when young. I don't think that ALL ETs are negative though... but then again I don't think that all that are positive are real either - light beings that work with greys are split beings as in they take the 'light' and the greys take the 'dark' (good cop bad cop), it is a representation of a split unwhole reality from within where there is 'good' and 'bad' and it is not high dimensional reality which has no splits and neither do the beings within them. The split 'positive' ones are not really positive - they are sepultures, hollow within and 'light' without. In so saying the actual ETs which exist, are real in the true sense (in all dimensions) and benevolent are highly evolved creatures are very few. Most of what we are seeing are dreamscape projections of our spiritual field, owned by the Earth and Humanity. If the energy being used for their projection and manitenance was instead directed to healthy manifestations - the world would be full of miracles. Well I suppose it already is - the ETs are miracles in a way but what I mean is that the manifestations would be healthy.


Well what is there happening in the area with regards to removing the maya of it? Probably not much. People are either stuck in the outright denial of their existence (outsiders, regular science), or firmly entrenched in their existence (abductees, black ops, cabal). Neither is right, I think. Somewhere in the middle is the reality. it's a difficult field allround isn't it : ) dangers witthin and ridicule without.. but hey... life would be oh so ordinary without it.. and I don't think that suits anyone in this kind of business.

[Daughter of Time]

Powerful testimony Daughter of Time ty.

So how do we measure good? I've noticed a few comments that there are different ways of looking at this subject.

-Nanoo's point is noted here, -the visitors are doing abductions for the betterment of something and the few abducted are lab studies, the same as humans doing scientific studies on chimps for the benefit of science.

-the visitors are afraid abductees wouldn't understand so they are taken against their will and memories are erased to prevent trauma.

- benevolent beings are visiting without abducting people. There are a number of people involved to some degree in contact in this category. (i.e. Many of the visitors to ECETI)

Hello Mojo,

How does one measure good? If the end result of an experience is the betterment of that person on any level, then the experience was good.

I have read testimonies of people who claim to have had malignant tumours and were visited by ETs who used a laser on them and the next day the tumours were gone! I do not disbelieve this. Obviously, these people were visited by benevolent ETs who, beyond a shadow of a doubt, helped them. But these recipients of benevolence were not traumatized. They were hypnotized during the procedure but were aware of what was being done. And they were immensely grateful for the removal of their illnesses. How could they not be?

If ETs who abduct against a person's will, erase their memories in order to prevent trauma, then it means that trauma was inflicted. Trauma is not benevolent.

[Eram]

Firstly to address the OP:
When you speak about Extraterrestrials and whether they behave malevolent or benevolent, this indicates that they have an intrinsic value to them that makes them either good or bad in nature.
IMO... All conscious creatures in the physical realms (humans, E.T's and such) are subdued to polarity consciousness and are either attuned to living in harmony with life and the laws that exist in this Universe, or to living against these laws, the God vs Lucifer spectrum. Most of them live in between those two polarities I guess.
So when you speak about abductions and the nature of the abductors... I think it is better to talk about their ability to live in harmony with nature of the lack there of. Even E.T's that do horrific things to the abductees are likely to do this from the agenda that originates from their perspective and not so much as to be malevolent to us.

As for myself... I have no recollection of being abducted or being a contactee.
All I can testify is that I witnessed a Flying saucer when I was 6 or 7 years old and I have been very intrigued with extraterrestrial life ever since.... very :)

My girlfriend has had several contacts with different E.T. races (telepathically) ....or so it seemed... and they have been kind, in harmony with nature to a degree and with deep respect for free will, which I think is a good indicator to see if they understand the laws of nature and harmony.
She ended her contacts for now, since we read so much about channellings that originate from AI and other sources that have no intentions of telling us the truth.
Maybe, one day, when we learned enough , she will resume, but for now we felt that it is more rewarding to focus on things that we have more control over.

I think that there are highly interesting perspectives and testimonies in this thread.
It would be so nice if we could, in a combined effort, come to new insights and understandings in the whole E.T. topic. Maybe we can even learn ways to have a say in whether we are subjected to abductions or not.
Nanoo made some valid points when he said that it is better to be neutral about being abducted, but this is difficult, if not impossible to uphold for people like DoT who experience(d) things that are a direct threat to their health, so this position is only useful to some degree.

I recently finished the first book from Truman Cash,the programming of a planet (http://projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash...f_a_Planet.pdf) (which is an interesting book in many ways) and one of the things that he tells is that he managed to end his abductions (so far so good), that extended over many life times, through intensive past life retrieval. Learning more and more about his history with his abductors and taking back the invested energy in these contacts and ending the emotional trauma that came with is. My intuition tells me that this works a little bit the same as soul retrieval which people use to enlighten themselves.
Maybe this is a tool that in the end makes one virtually invisible to the abductors, or less interesting in a way.
Truman ended his abductions in the end simply by asking so in a telepathic contact with one of his abductors.

Who knows... maybe this tool may be a way for people to end their abductions.
I know for one, that I want to learn about this technique, to relive past lives without being hypnotised.

Shade... your posts are highly interesting, but I have to admit that I have a hard time to understand exactly what you are saying when you talk about... crown, maya and the grays that are an illusion in a way... from the future and also a figment of our unconscious imagination.
I mean... I get it a little bit, but I would highly appreciate it when you would take the time to elaborate and in a way that we all can fully understand what you say (or maybe it's just me :P).
I think, if what you say is true, there is much to learn and understand there for us all and maybe there are keys for us to consciously influence our future interactions with them.

[TrumanCash]

I have been abducted many, many times and have recovered the memories of many abduction experiences and have worked with over forty other abductees. The primary reason that some abductees feel that it was a positive experience is due to false memories implanted by abducting ETs (called "screen memories") to make it appear that the abduction was pleasant and benevolent. They also implant amnesia in most cases so that the abductee does not remember what happened. However, sometimes the abductee has memories surface and whenever that happens it is the deceptive "screen memory" that is remembered. They also lie to abductees by saying that they "agreed" to be abducted.

One abductee, Jim Sparks, was allowed to remember the abductions about 95% of the time. He admits that tall Grays tortured him, yet he believes them to be benevolent. I have also been tortured by tall Grays. I do not believe torture is benevolent.

Torture, abduction, implanting and mind control are not benevolent and are a violation of the Universal Law of Consent.

I have written two books on the subject and anyone can read them free of charge. Just click on the links below. My first book, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET, is a good place to start for basic abduction information. I am continually updating my research on the MATRIX REVEALED thread on this forum.

Best Wishes,
Truman L. Cash