The Voynich Manuscript: the book that can't be read

[Amenjo]

Update from Bill, October 2019:

It's now been solved at last — I'm sure of it. See this thread:


The Voynich Manuscript: now solved after 600 years (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101519-The-Voynich-Manuscript-now-solved-after-600-years)

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Voynich_Manuscript_%28158%29.jpg/616px-Voynich_Manuscript_%28158%29.jpg

Hi all,

Just wanted to share something I have been researching this weekend.

Not sure if this has been talked about on Avalon yet, I did a search on Avalon, but could not find reference to it.

It is the “Voynich Manuscript” a book discovered around the 17th Century and thought to have been written in the 16th Century. It has just been Carbon Dated by the University of Arizona. It turned out to be 15th Century between 1404 and 1438.

The book appears to contain several sections on; Herbal, Astronomical, biological, Cosmological, Pharmaceutical & Recipes.

It is hand written, but in an unknown language. So far no one has been able to decipher it.

It also contains illustrations throughout, which quite frankly are astonishing.

The colouring in the book (which is quite crude) was not of the original hand, and has been identified as being added at a later date.

This book seems to contain quite a lot of information on Genetics!

University of Arizona’s Press Release on the Carbon Dating.
http://uanews.org/node/37825

View the entire book here at Wikimedia Commons..
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

or Hi-res here...
http://voynichcentral.com/gallery/

Wikipedia here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

I would also like to ask Atticus, if it would be possible to relay this information to Comte de St.Germain.

I also wondered if he was the original writer of the manuscript?
Or if not does he have any knowledge about it?

Thank you in advance.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo.

[Hiram]

The Voynich manuscript has always been a deep fascination of mine.

Thank you very much for starting a thread related to this! I encourage anyone who has not heard of this simply amazing book, to please read about it.

Witness Dan Burisch also referred to it a number of times...despite what you think of Mr. Burisch, I think the manuscript is on someone's radar.

[Amenjo]

Thank you Hiram,

I was just drawn to it at this present moment, seemed extremely relevant.

Just had to share it with everyone.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo.

[jorr lundstrom]

I saw a video here on PA about an australian woman who had a lot of interviews with kids that had

been educated by Ets. There was a girl who wrote something on an ET.language. It looked like this.

She also declared that wot we see as words was like big bundles of meaning. I dont remember the name of the video.

maybye someone else does. It was two weeks ago.

Thank you. Jorr

[witchy1]

How did the Vatican miss this one?????

[KosmicKat]

She also declared that wot we see as words was like big bundles of meaning.
Sometimes referred to as "logic bubbles", for example, if I say that someone is "gay" in the sense that they look for same-sex relationships, I have a bundle of associated ideas that go along with the concept. But my logic bubble is probably different from yours.

[seko]

wow I honestly don't know anything about this and I hope anyone here can give us a clue please. Knowing that it's in an unknown language makes it more interesting.

[Sir Eltor]

Thanks Amenjo , very intresting

[Hiram]

Yes, to my understanding, the very best codebreakers in the NSA had been tasked to decipher this document.

It has never been deciphered publicly...and this book (more like a folio) just goes on for pages and pages. I believe I read an article in Discover or Scientific American in the last few years which decried it as a hoax...due to our inability to decipher the symbols. The article offered no explanation whatsoever concerning the diagrams of various plants, some of which do not appear on Earth, or what seems to be a pretty accurate map of the Milky Way Galaxy...which you realize no one has ever actually seen from above.

There is somewhere online where you can view pages of the folio--actually Amenjo gives that link up above---Thank You.

This is one of those wonderfully rich enigmas that make life worth living:-)

[Carmody]

The Voynich manuscript has always been a deep fascination of mine.

Thank you very much for starting a thread related to this! I encourage anyone who has not heard of this simply amazing book, to please read about it.

Witness Dan Burisch also referred to it a number of times...despite what you think of Mr. Burisch, I think the manuscript is on someone's radar.

I think much of Dan. I think that his descriptions/images of the Looking Glass and the Yellowbook may have potentially been the part that got him in trouble... and that situation that ended with him almost dead.

When he described them I said quietly, "Holy ****....!"

If one understands the aspects of vortex mechanics and fluid dimensional coupling/breaching/gating systems....well....that was entirely too much information!

As innocent and confusing as it may appear..IMO, and IME .... that's the real McCoy, folks.

[Carmody]

I have never seen nor heard of this book. I will now look.

[Carmody]

Page 127 may have to do with the dimensional-dual doorway pathway of the duality of man/avatar system.

The doorway, two fish, then the main zodiac, then further digression/main types. A breakdown, if you will.

it seems to relate to dimensional energies and astrology archetypes... created in the harmonic multidimensional aspects.

I've only looked at it for a few seconds, though.


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Yes. all the circular and symbolic stuff appears to be astrological dimensional doorway related.

The mechanics of dimensional expressions as related to being a human on this plane.

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The six page layout seems to be map of dimensions/astral planes.
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page 121 seems to be about the light/dark dimensional doorway expression of the 12 main zodiacal archetypes.

[Amenjo]

Hi all,

Amazing isn't it! The more you look into it the more you will find.

Seems to me a big clue to this experiment we are in.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[the_flyingboy]

actually it is really amazing

[Isostool]

My observation tells me that it is a fake. A few things lead me to conclude this.

a. The quality of the overall manuscript. it is not good. If this was a script prepared my masters it would be prepared masterfully. It is not. Compare it to others which are......

b. The pictures are not good quality in the least. Evidence which suggests that the picture of the milky way is good enough, congruent enough with an accurate presentation of the actual position of things is not exactly spectacular.

c. Even if at the time pictures of the milky was were known of and posessed by the 'caretakers' at this point - this book itself looks to be something set as a task to students. To practice their hand at encryption, to practice their hand at writing. They may have had access to many other things that were totally masterful and accurate, but that does not mean they were either allowed to or did, present them accuratly in this book.

d. If it WAS accurate in ANY meaningful way WE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT IT.

e. The syntax looks totaly suspect.

f. Once finished for practice, it would have commanded a respectable sum from a gullible Prince, somewhere on the other side of Europe from where it was composed - just incase he discovered it was no magical text at all.

[Truth Seeker]

It is so ironic that you would post this new thread on this manuscript, as I only just became aware of it the day you posted on this. Thank you for putting this out there for everyone. When I was looking online to see larger images of some of the pages, what I noticed was that there are repeated patterns in the writing that make the "words" not seem like words to me, but maybe a coded language (not just an ancient or obscure language). Some of the scripting seems like repeating symbols rather than letters. But what do I know? Anyhow, it's all fascinating and mysterious and I, like many, would love to know what information is written about in that book.

[Amenjo]

It is so ironic that you would post this new thread on this manuscript, as I only just became aware of it the day you posted on this. Thank you for putting this out there for everyone. When I was looking online to see larger images of some of the pages, what I noticed was that there are repeated patterns in the writing that make the "words" not seem like words to me, but maybe a coded language (not just an ancient or obscure language). Some of the scripting seems like repeating symbols rather than letters. But what do I know? Anyhow, it's all fascinating and mysterious and I, like many, would love to know what information is written about in that book.

Many cryptologists have studied the manuscript, but to no avail. It seems to follow certain rules of language but not others.

It definitely looks code based. Some of the illustrations have definite relations to genetic experiments of some kind.

I was quite awe struck when I first looked at it.

I just hope other people on Avalon get to see it, as it is very inspiring.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Amenjo]

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Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Maria Stade]

Thank you very intresting !

Hmm .....

[Lettherebelight]

As the thread says...amazing. There's all kinds of info in there. Interestingly, the page numbers appear to be in understandable numerals.

I think we're going to have to ask our linguist specialist, Bry Ap Gwilym. Maybe it is something from another dimensional place.

Thanks for this, Amenjo. Hours of fun! Very special indeed.

[Carmody]

It appears to be of a set of three books. Maybe four. Only, what....3? 4? of the zodiacal types are in it.

If it is indeed coded, then the others may be needed to break the code.

[Amenjo]

It appears to be of a set of three books. Maybe four. Only, what....3? 4? of the zodiacal types are in it.

If it is indeed coded, then the others may be needed to break the code.

That is why I decided to ask if Atticus could pass this message on. Any Truth / Knowledge about this document would make a fantastic connection for people.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Jonathon]

Wow - looked through it all. Lot of ways to speculate about it. I can't make any real heads or tails out of the language from the initial look, however did notice there is no overt punctuation that I can identify. I did not take the time to do a symbol count, however a few of the symbols/words were highly repetitive.

[Liquid]

I saw a video here on PA about an australian woman who had a lot of interviews with kids that had

been educated by Ets. There was a girl who wrote something on an ET.language. It looked like this.

She also declared that wot we see as words was like big bundles of meaning. I dont remember the name of the video.

maybye someone else does. It was two weeks ago.

Thank you. Jorr

Maybe this one - http://www.cmn.tv/videos/mary-rodwell-the-new-humans/

Fascinating manuscript!

[Lettherebelight]

I think if we just keep looking at it, maybe pass our hands over it, we will eventually get it.

[muxfolder]

I remember this one! There was this site on the internet that was very fascinating which I studied when I started my own research. Here's the link:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/

I suggest you read this one through if you haven't already done that.;)

Btw, thanks for the links! I always thought this couldn't be fake. Why would anyone bother fake a book like that?

[zeca61]

I can't access both:
http://commons.wikimedia.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/
Are they really offline? (worldwide)
I'm getting "no server found" like the sites don't exist!
Can anyone confirm they are still up, pls?

[Amenjo]

I can't access:
http://commons.wikimedia.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/
Are both sites offline? This is weird, so say the least.
I'm getting "no server found" like the sites don't exist!
Can anyone confirm they are still up, pls?
Tnx.

I just checked the links appear to work fine for me. I hope that's of some sort of help?

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Dennis Jonathan]

Thanks for this post. I just heard about this book today for the first time and could not get it out of my head. syncro-whatever-city.

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[Rocky_Shorz]

I wonder if this might correspond with the Mayan Calendars...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Voynich_Manuscript_%28114%29.jpg/469px-Voynich_Manuscript_%28114%29.jpg

2nd image divided into 12 months... Growing seasons...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Voynich_Manuscript_%28121%29.jpg

Sun moon and named Stars...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Voynich_Manuscript_%28123%29.jpg

Astrology - age of pieces

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Voynich_Manuscript_%28127%29.jpg

Capricorn
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Voynich_Manuscript_%28128%29.jpg

organic medicine recipes...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Voynich_Manuscript_%28175%29.jpg

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToS7oNQWoUc

Yes, Rocky_Shorz , many of the herbal plants of the book are extint. it also depicts astrologic references for the time of planting and collecting them for making remedies.
The knowledge of the vegetal kingdom is one of the «steps« of the «Opus».
Namasté

[leavesoftrees]

It appears to be of a set of three books. Maybe four. Only, what....3? 4? of the zodiacal types are in it.

If it is indeed coded, then the others may be needed to break the code.

Don't forget that the 12 signs fall into the 4 elements

I first heard of this manuscript on William Shatner's Weird or what? It suggested that it was a hoax and covered how the language it is writtten in may have been generated,

You might be able to find the episode online

[Swami]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArgHqcgxVBk

[Grace For Ki]

Very well could be a hoax. Cant assume something is real because its strange, and it is very strange. The facts are we dont know enough about this book or its language if its even a real language. Ive had a copy of this book for a few months now. Very strange indeed. Imagine if a 1000 years down the line a new civilization discovers ours old destroyed civilization. The only thing they find is some "star wars" books. Atleast with this they have a language to reference from. But the point is they read about this war in space that took place a long time ago, hrmm maybe this is what happened to that culture...So strange, all the different alien types, the main characters, seem so true, it must of been true!!!

Just a thought.

[Arrowwind]

Certainly it appears Eurocentric in the handwriting..

Back in those days I learned somewhere, don't remember exactly, that many things were writting in code to protect the authors from the hand of the Church..

Anything that would contradict the rule of the church in healing or the other topics mentioned would be very dangerous to record. I would say a pretty clear example of people trying to get to the truth and commited to passing it on in a very dark time.

[Krullenjongen]

Very interesting, but what good does it if no one can read it?
I think i'll put this subject aside until the time has come that someone has decyfered it and it can be read.
But thanks anyway for bringing it to our attention.

[mcaballero]

Well I read somewhere that there is a theory that the words are in italian, but are scrambled forming anagrams. But, more research is necessary to confirm this. I believe a simple computer program with an italian dictionary and some rules for forming words (anagrams allow for many combinations) should be sufficient.

[Amenjo]

Well I read somewhere that there is a theory that the words are in italian, but are scrambled forming anagrams. But, more research is necessary to confirm this. I believe a simple computer program with an italian dictionary and some rules for forming words (anagrams allow for many combinations) should be sufficient.

I would like to know where you read this. Sounds fascinating.

As far as I have understood, it has been compared to all modern and ancient languages but has not been identified in any way.

But if you have evidence to the contrary, any references you can give, that I could follow, it would be most appreciated.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo.

[meeradas]

bumping this thread, as probably many still haven't heard of/ seen it before
[here's Terence McKenna on the topic, for listening in the background whilst reading the thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToS7oNQWoUc&feature=BF&playnext=1&list=QL&index=1)]

[Amenjo]

Thank you Meeradas,

It's the first time I have heard Mckenna's take on the manuscript.

Very interesting.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[meeradas]

Thank you Meeradas, It's the first time I have heard Mckenna's take on the manuscript.

You're very welcome. Am herewith fwd'ing your thanks to MariaDine, who i borrowed the link from (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14201-AMAZING-BOOK-from-14th-Century-Voynich-Manuscript-MUST-SEE&p=143081&viewfull=1#post143081) [Thanks, MariaDine!]

[Amenjo]

Thank you Maria,

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Lunar]

Hi Amenjo

Thanks for starting this thread - I first read about this in Von Daniken's History is Wrong. The lady that postulates the Italian scrambled code theory is Edith Sherwood:

http://www.edithsherwood.com/

What interested me was how she is linking it with Leonardo Da Vinci - which would be commensurate with the carbon dating. Da Vinci is rumoured to have had dealings with esoteric societies, as well as Newton. Just a thought to add to the bag!

[the trojan]

nice find,very interesting.
but one question.
1.what makes you think that atticus or st germaine would know anything about this.
I mean ,correct me if i am wrong but Atticus has never posted anything on here that is backed up with any evidence whatsoever.
If I am wrong...you know what to do folks...plenty of forum space....

[Amenjo]

nice find,very interesting.
but one question.
1.what makes you think that atticus or st germaine would know anything about this.
I mean ,correct me if i am wrong but Atticus has never posted anything on here that is backed up with any evidence whatsoever.
If I am wrong...you know what to do folks...plenty of forum space....

Hi Trojan,

I suppose I was hoping he might enter into a dialogue about it, because if the things he states about his master are true, then he would, I presume have a good understanding of this, being as St. Germain was in the public eye around the time the book was written.

Worth a try I suppose.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo.

[Lettherebelight]

Atticus has never posted anything publicly, although he has been invited to do so.

One could quite reasonably assert that the manuscript is not from this 'place', as suggested by Carmody.

Is it so difficult to imagine that this information is alien to this world/dimension?...the 'extinct' plants, the unintelligible language, the absence of the male form (from a time that was predominantly a patriarchal society), the obvious similarities to this world combined with strange and utterly foreign images?

It is safely housed, cloistered behind the ivy league walls of the elite. The images the public are privy to cannot be magnified to a resolution which is high enough to conduct an in depth study.

'Hidden in plain sight' would be an apt description.

[the trojan]

there are page numbers on the corners and they are legible......so i dont think they are from another planet or dimension or........
as to the plants which are no longer on this earth,well,imagine someone doing a wee version of this at the present time.
drawings of bees may well be looked upon in the future as weird....that is if they become extinct..

[mcaballero]

This is the reference I mentioned earlier (regarding the italian anagram hypothesis). I know it was not published in a respectable magazine, but I find the ideas fascinating :-).

http://www.edithsherwood.com/voynich_decoded/

[sygh]

It looks like a study of vascular ferns and their reproductive spores, along with water transport... disection of the stems, roots, leaves, etc... Looks like a monk's work or someone interested in botany.

http://www.home.aone.net.au/~byzantium/ferns/about.html

As for the language, most definitely human. If done in the 14-15th century, could have been written in a differenct language in order to cover up the information and the source, due to religious tyrany.

The zodiac is also a way of dating and locating a spot on the face of the earth. Cannot remember the page but found it interesting as to the way the milky way was referenced. Note the count of 7 planets, and the sun on the left side of the circle on the same drawing. I could be completely wrong but... that's part of what I see. Someone should be able to translate this, as the parts of the plant system are named. Also, if I remember from my studies of a while past, ferns have a 24 month cycle.

And now I've run into the Episcopal Palace (s) of 14th-15th Centuries. May be worthy to note in botany. St Francis? Franciscans?

[The One]

Voynich Manuscript - At least 400 years old, this is a 232-page illuminated manuscript entirely written in a secret script. It is filled with copious drawings of unidentified plants, herbal recipes of some sort, astrological diagrams, and many small human figures in strange plumbing-like contraptions. The script is unlike anything else in existence, but is written in a confident style, seemingly by someone who was very comfortable with it. In 2004 there were some compelling arguments which described a technique that would seemingly prove that the manuscript was a hoax, but to date, none of the described techniques have been able to replicate a single section of the Manuscript, so speculations continue

The link below is a quick guide to the book

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isi.edu%2Fnatural-language%2Fpeople%2Fvoynich.pdf&ei=rgJeTu78Oc6VOvqEvfUC&usg=AFQjCNG7Mga7kmqn2QisNXFUqdBs_5xbaA

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This link is for the full pdf file below.The pdf file is quite big 209 pages long but what a fascinating book wow

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=215&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.nasioc.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1667340&v=1&libid=1314784550838&out=http%3A%2F%2Fawesta.sibirjak.ru%2Ffiles%2FVoynich.pdf&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D7%26ved%3D0CEUQFjAG%26url%3Dh ttp%253A%252F%252Fforums.nasioc.com%252Fforums%252Fshowthread.php%253Ft%253D1667340%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D voynich%2520manuscript%2520full%2520pdf%26ei%3DAwVeToL9CsSdOq-qze8C%26usg%3DAFQjCNEqDpCRHPV5CAQJNLPR2Qt1Fz47Hg&title=Download%20complete%20PDF%20file%20of%20Voynich%20manuscript%20-%20NASIOC&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fawesta.sibirjak.ru%2Ffiles%2FVoynich.pdf&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13147853450314

[Richie_asg1]

My first thought is that it was a manufactured book written in medieval times to satisfy the demand for magical or scientific books. It is highly illustrated and contains pages of illegible texts - so could be sold for a high price. Probably written by an ex monk who was a trained scribe and used to writing, but now made money for himself "discovering" rare books. Considering it is dated by the materials to that time - where else would the unknown plants be found? Certainly not another planet unless he brought the book with him - but wouldn't they have better paper or something else to record the information on if that was the case?
The writing is decipherable purely because it was made that way - long enough for the originator to leave. If you made up a new language within a day or so, I suspect you would write something similar based on your native language - in this case likely latin. Therefore the words should follow the same linking pattern and length as latin words.

[vibrations]

In this doc. (transcript of the his videos Captain Bill explains a bit about Voinich Script. it's talking about the notebook of an galactic student, maybe child, lost the notebook in a scientific trip to Earth.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B3bqSLnxmMqqNmM3Y2E1OTYtNGQwZS00NWQ4LTk0OGMtOGE3NjkzOTgwMzVh&hl=en_US&authkey=CIekt4wE

Also our dear OnixlKnight said something about it. His knowledge of the scripts of various species guided him to the conclusion which race could have this kind of written language, but I do not know exactly where in his vast information.

[Referee]

Very interesting and to date has not been deciphered..........

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[sandy]

Super intriguing :) I love mystery and this book certainly is one. Thank you for the video Referee

[delfine]

Somebody claims to have decoded it:
http://www.amazon.com/Voynich-Manuscript-Code-Unchopped-Read/dp/147928839X/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1348597656&sr=8-27&keywords=voynich+manuscript

[Lifebringer]

Perhaps because the planet stops and reverses, it is a book of those times going in the opposite direction where the zodiac signs go in the opposite direction. Is this possible when the Earth rotates counter clockwise, to clockwise, and if so do the zodialogical signs as the rotation of orbit is reversed, are they to also revolve the opposite way on our new horizon and is that what they mean by a new Heaven and Earth because of what happens when this all does occur?

Hmm...something to ponder, either way, i'm workin on my soul's future travel and relieve my heart and mind of negatives and harsh feelings so I too can rise above the fray, if not visualize my being taken off by my energy field surrounding my eternal soul.

[sdv]

The various people who have claimed to have cracked the code and translated the manuscript make up an interesting story in itself. An interesting blog about this here: (http://www.ciphermysteries.com/category/historical-ciphers/voynich-manuscript/voynich-theories/page/2)


Somebody claims to have decoded it:
http://www.amazon.com/Voynich-Manusc...ich+manuscript

See this interesting post by this person on Davide Icke's website:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217818

You can download the MS here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7753610/The-Voynich-Manuscript

or here:

http://awesta.sibirjak.ru/files/Voynich

I did and spent an afternoon browsing through it. The pictures are fascinating.

I think that a mistake many people make when decoding a mystery is to not get into context. Unfortunately all our assumptions come from perceptions in the present. We are not even sure we can date it. (The parchment may have been carbon dated very accurately, but the manuscript could have been written on old parchment, not so?) It is unlikely that so much parchment would have been stored and then used at a later date, but not impossible.

What if it is not a code but another language? What if it was written by someone who had a form of dyslexia plus used shorthand much as we do nowadays? Ok, the latter is a fanciful idea because if this was the case we would surely have at least one other example of such kind of writing!

Good old Wikipedia has a good summary about this MS, and makes some good points about why it is unlikely that it is a hoax:


The argument for authenticity, on the other hand, is that the manuscript appears too sophisticated to be a hoax. While hoaxes of the period tended to be quite crude, the Voynich manuscript exhibits many subtle characteristics which show up only after careful statistical analysis. These fine touches require much more work than would have been necessary for a simple forgery, and some of the complexities are only visible with modern tools. The question then arises: why would the author employ such a complex and laborious forging algorithm in the creation of a simplistic hoax, if no one in the expected audience (that is, the creator's contemporaries) could tell the difference?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript


Apologies that I do not have the technical skill to cross reference another thread, but Bill Ryan has a thread They Cracked This 250-Year-Old Code, and Found a Secret Society Inside. The man who cracked the code for that book is apparantly going to try to decipher the Voynich MS.

http://www.science20.com/cool-links/next_decoding_voynich_manuscript-83992

I would be really interested in some Avalon members downloading the book, browsing through it and sharing their impressions ...

[Corncrake]

An update on the Voynich Manuscript:

Nothing new really but the research is carrying on:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22975809

[marlowe]

The link is saying it's coded Arabic & it's about Sufism.

It looks like they have done it...I've been interested in this since the late 1960s.

http://voynich2arabic.wordpress.com/

[araucaria]

Thanks Marlowe. If this is the solution, then it is amazing how it took them so long. As a code, it is extremely simple - the 9 is a y, the 2 an n, the c an e, the 8 a t, the a an a, etc. Correlating such a simple code with a major language like Arabic ought to have occurred to someone long ago. Strange.

[Referee]

Thanks Marlowe. If this is the solution, then it is amazing how it took them so long. As a code, it is extremely simple - the 9 is a y, the 2 an n, the c an e, the 8 a t, the a an a, etc. Correlating such a simple code with a major language like Arabic ought to have occurred to someone long ago. Strange.

I have to agree some of the best code breakers in the world worked on this book seems way to simple to me.......

[marlowe]

To paraphrase an old saying " At the end of the great age all secrets will be revealed".....I am also skeptical but we should know one way or the other in the next few weeks. Here is what some posters have to say on another forum....

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread976187/pg1

[Snookie]

It just may be that it wasn't meant to be broken or decoded until now.

[dianna]

Terence Mckenna talks about The Voynich Manuscript


http://www.zengardner.com/wp-content/uploads/voynich.jpg


Terence Talks About the Mysterious Voynich Manuscript, Rudolf II of Bohemia, The Winter King and Queen, John Dee, Edward Kelly, Roger Bacon, and its possible ties to alchemy and the Rosicrucian Enlightenment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1k-k5eAZ4

[MariaDine]

Voynich - a provisional, partial decoding of the Voynich script


02/02/2014

«This video presents my research into the script and language of the Voynich manuscript in an informal way. Please go to my website - stephenbax.net for the fully argued article about it, and also to give me your feedback and comments.
Thanks, Stephen Bax »


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZD_3D8_WQ

[araucaria]

Stephen Bax in the papers:
http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/british-academic-claims-to-have-made-a-breakthrough-in-his-quest-to-unlock-the-600yearold-secrets-of-the-mysterious-voynich-manuscript-9141484.html

[Atlas]

My research into the Voynich manuscript looks particularly at the script and language, and as a result of my research I propose a decoding of around ten of the words and some fourteen of the signs and clusters. I suggest that these are the first signs and words to be successfully decoded [...]

Below is the full research paper as a PDF.
http://stephenbax.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Voynich-a-provisional-partial-decoding-BAX.pdf

Download PDF (http://stephenbax.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Voynich-a-provisional-partial-decoding-BAX.pdf)

Source: stephenbax.net (http://stephenbax.net/?page_id=11)

[marlowe]

here is the latest information

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271312

[Plotus]

This is great news if it turns out to be sound and true. There was a significant Muslim population in those times, with many traveling and trading, so It's quite plausible.

[Dawn]

Marloe:
here is the latest information

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthead.php?t=271312

This doesn't seem to be a working link... do you have one that works?

[marlowe]

here is the latest information

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271312

this link works now...

[Bill Ryan]

:bump: :bump: :bump:

This is a fascinating thread, full of history, intrigue, speculation and every kind of claim. But the mystery has been solved... at last. It's medieval Turkish, written phonetically using an invented alphabet.

Not a hoax, or deliberately in code. But the solution eluded every codebreaker and linguist, and defied all computerized analysis until now. It took a very smart father-and-son team to figure it all out. See this thread:


The Voynich Manuscript: now solved after 600 years (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?101519-The-Voynich-Manuscript-now-solved-after-600-years)

[muxfolder]

Could this manuscript be from Tartary? I just recently stumbled upon this huge rabbit hole called Tartary. There are a lot of YouTube-videos available and speculation if Tartarians were advanced civilization that as close as 1800's was this huge, huge nation in Russia. It's amazing this information has surfaced now but also bit fishy if you ask me. It even seems that CIA didn't want anyone to know in the US. Turned out a lot of the people who are researching this are flatearthears, which I don't agree of course, as some of you know, but I've been busy watching videos lately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartary

Here's one of the videos I thought was fascinating. He's assuming North America was actually inhabited by these ancient very advanced people much earlier than we're told and a that there were these modern towns (Chicago, San Francisco for example) already built before the first settlers came. Interesting theory but I'm not that convinced.
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