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Tony
14th December 2012, 11:03
Trust, trust, trust your own intuition. However, it is a delicate, delicate, delicate matter.
You do not have to trust other people's intuition. Not because it is wrong, but it is merely timely, for them. However, trusting one's intuition is a delicate matter, because it can get mixed up with ego's desires and aversions - better known as our mind! Intuition is to do with our essential being noticing something, but not allowing the mind to interfere, though it may be used as a reference.
This is why we need to still ourselves, to reflect on what is going on.
Of course we make mistakes, but hey, we are only human!
Everyone has come from somewhere ('goodness' knows where!) and we find ourselves here. Each of us has had different influences projected onto us, and here we are...confused and doubting everything.
Intuition.
Our intuition is our inner teacher.
Outer teachers should help reflect our inner teacher!
Everyone is unique so we have to follow our own intuition. Intuition is that 'thing' that knows 'rightness'.
know if it was 'right' or not - and you do not have to know how to draw to do this!]
Sometimes, intuition is a group thing, but mainly (on a very subtle level) it is an individual thing.
In fact I've never met anyone I agree with on everything...well, hardly ever! Even my teachers: if you have ever been to the same lecture by a different teacher, you will know what I mean.
We all express ourselves differently.
External teachers (the ones who help you find your inner teacher) can only take you so far, and then it is up to us. But they should have helped to lay a firm foundation of wisdom and love.
I'm sure we can all agree on that ;).
Once we have established our inner teacher, we can then work with 'the symbolic teacher'....life! Then we are starting to 'wake up' to our responsibilities and challenges - working with love..love in action.
This brings us to the unity of the two truths. Every sentient being is a sleeping buddha (Buddha means Awake...absolute truth), and not that irritating so-and-so over there. That irritating so-and-so is only a relative truth, a temporary event. If we see that so-and-so's temporary event as real, we are mistaking the unreal for the real, and may argue with it....one day we will realise this is pointless!
So by working with 'the symbolic teacher,' we start to see that everyone and everything can remind us of their and our true nature. Our true nature is pure/empty and knowing so when meeting beings in life, we can now talk to that. Not argue with an ego: if we do that, this only reveals our own ego.....although this is not necessarily a bad thing either, if you notice it! And that is the point of the symbolic teacher at work.
This also goes for all phenomena in the universe. All phenomena is also inherently empty of true existence: things come and go. Things have to be cared for and respected, but we do not have to put undue value on it.
If the illuminati want all the gold in the world, let them play with it.
We only need food, shelter and time to be!
All the best,
Tony
Cidersomerset
14th December 2012, 11:15
I instinctively follow my intuition, untill intuitively guided on another path !!
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Fred Steeves
14th December 2012, 11:49
Hi Tony, yeah, following one's intuition is certainly a delicate matter. First like you said, it's tough to distinguish true intuition from other parts of the mind, this is absolutely true. It can also be like a bull in a china shop sorting out when it's really intuition, but after enough mistakes, and successes, it becomes pretty clear. True intuition will have a certain "feel" to it, sort of like a perfectly struck musical note, anything else will "feel" a little off. Of course very useful this is, as many of us here well know. If one has to navigate through a mine field, they had better have more to rely on than the regular 5 senses.
Here's a little thing I've noticed about intuition recently, I think it's our lifeline back home. Our failsafe. Like cave divers trail a rope behind as to not get hopelessly lost, especially if the silt gets kicked up. Well I think we HAVE found ourselves hopelessly lost in that underwater cave with the silt kicked up, and in that moment of despair, we remember that we had the lifeline tied around us, just in case. Nothing else to do but trust it, and follow it home.
Cheers,
Fred
SilentFeathers
14th December 2012, 12:57
The mind always wants to separate itself from the heart....and the "gut feeling".
It's a tricky thing to keep the mind and heart working together as one, but when the mind and heart are in alignment, intuition can fire rapidly so to speak, and be quite "spot on".
Good post/topic Tony, intuition is something we all need to understand better, especially when so many "Mind Games" are happening.
ADDED: Intuition, the heart/mind connect, is a good BS filter! :)
andrewgreen
14th December 2012, 19:21
Its something that can be developed, the more its used the more powerful a tool it becomes.
Daughter of Time
15th December 2012, 00:53
Intuition always comes to me in a flash. If I honour the flash and let it guide me, it is seldom wrong!
But when I start to question the flash and rationalize it and analyze it, I get lost in my thoughts and end up following the end result of my rationalization, it is seldom right!
I think one of the problems with trusting intuition, above and beyond the fact that we're never fully sure whether it's pure intuitive intelligence speaking to us or whether it's the ego or the mind, is that society does not really respect intuition as a form of intelligence. In Western society, intellect is always preferred. Intuition is considered inferior to intellect, not to be trusted.
If we start respecting intuition as much as we respect intellect, we might finally achieve a balanced form of intelligence.
music
15th December 2012, 01:11
Science slowly catches up with reality. We now officially recognise that not only is the network of nerve plexuses surrounding the gut capable of intelligent input and output, but so too is the heart. It is only the ego that refuses to see the inherent intelligence outside of the brain.
Driving home from work the other week, descending a steep, narrow, windy dirt road, suddenly the vision of rounding the coming bend and meeting a dark blue 4WD on my side of the road for a head on passes from the body to the mind. I don't ignore it. I slow down, approaching the corner at a crawl. As I am near, a dark blue 4WD rounds the corner at speed on my side of the road. If I hadn't listened to my intuition, I would have smashed right into it, and very possibly gone off the drop off to fairly certain death.
The more we live in the heart, the more we receive the messages from our intelligences that do not reside in the head. Never ignore intuition, we recognise it from flights of the ego by it's origin. Intuition comes from the body, not the head. The head is merely used to process it. In fact, if we were truly evolved, the head wouldn't even need to be involved at all - the body would merely act appropriately of its own accord.
Tony
15th December 2012, 08:32
This reminds me of the saying, "Zen mind Beginners mind". It is fresh and clear, however over time we tend to get a little jaded. It's just something to go through, but can get stuck there.
Beginner's mind is 'it'!
"It" carries no luggage.
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Tony
Tony
15th December 2012, 08:39
When we connect to intuition, then the buddha is still teaching.
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Tarka the Duck
15th December 2012, 11:20
Of course, both sexes have equal access to intuition, but when it comes to "reading" other people, are women more aware?
I remember reading about the possibility of a link between "intuition" and the fact that women are (in general) more open to expressing their emotions - both verbally and non-verbally - and often hold empathy as an important trait.
If you're familiar with talking openly about your feelings, are you more attuned to picking them up in others?
Kathie
Tony
15th December 2012, 17:57
This is interesting. A very simple song had 41.900.000 million viewings.
Nearly 42 million people listen to this and intuitively feel good.
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Daughter of Time
15th December 2012, 18:31
Of course, both sexes have equal access to intuition, but when it comes to "reading" other people, are women more aware?
I remember reading about the possibility of a link between "intuition" and the fact that women are (in general) more open to expressing their emotions - both verbally and non-verbally - and often hold empathy as an important trait.
If you're familiar with talking openly about your feelings, are you more attuned to picking them up in others?
Kathie
In general, women are more intuitive than men because of yin/yang.
Intuition is a yin type of intelligence. Intellect is yang.
Since more women than men are yin, then more women than men are intuitive.
Of course, many men are yin also, and many women are yang.
But as far as generalizations go, women are more intuitive.
music
15th December 2012, 22:19
Yes, Daughter of Time, it is all about what we express. We are all 50/50 masculine/feminine, but apart from what we express physically, there is also what we express energetically. The ideal obviously is to be balanced and unified, and to have both intellect and intuition working. While the male in us feeds fear to the ego, the female in us connects us to the love of higher consciousness. The male in us is time-bound, the female is not. Intuition comes from the place in us that is not time-bound.
Vrilya
15th December 2012, 23:44
This is an excellent subject Tony. I believe nothing could be more important at this time.........
I believe our "Higher Selves" are our connection to the Highest good. Our Hearts and Higher Selves are one and Ego needs to be identified for what it is, this is one of our biggest battles in this life time
When you practise using your Higher Self you'll be able to trust your intuition, these skills will keep you safe in the times ahead.......
Blessings and Love Always,
Shelley
minkton
16th December 2012, 00:01
Yes, Daughter of Time, it is all about what we express. We are all 50/50 masculine/feminine, but apart from what we express physically, there is also what we express energetically. The ideal obviously is to be balanced and unified, and to have both intellect and intuition working. While the male in us feeds fear to the ego, the female in us connects us to the love of higher consciousness. The male in us is time-bound, the female is not. Intuition comes from the place in us that is not time-bound.
Where do you get this 50/50 idea from, music?
DeDukshyn
16th December 2012, 00:03
I trust my intuition only about 25% of the time. 75% of the time I am disappointed in myself. ;)
music
16th December 2012, 00:44
Yes, Daughter of Time, it is all about what we express. We are all 50/50 masculine/feminine, but apart from what we express physically, there is also what we express energetically. The ideal obviously is to be balanced and unified, and to have both intellect and intuition working. While the male in us feeds fear to the ego, the female in us connects us to the love of higher consciousness. The male in us is time-bound, the female is not. Intuition comes from the place in us that is not time-bound.
Where do you get this 50/50 idea from, music?
Our bodies, and all physical matter, are made possible by the interplay of positive and negative particulate matter. We have attached labels to these poles, and one set of labels is feminine/masculine. In an a very real essential way, we are a balance of negative and positive, yin and yang, masculine and feminine. If we express largely as masculine, the bulk of our feminine is unexpressed, and therefore we are in a state if imbalance. Within our expressed masculinity (for example) lies another duality of 50/50 +/-, the poles expressed or unexpressed, within each of those poles lie a duality, the poles either expressed or unexpressed, etc., etc. I see the poles as aspects of what I would call the true trinity of mother/father/magic (spirit), and the unified whole I would call Love.
minkton
16th December 2012, 00:59
Sorry music, I meant where do you get the idea of 50 50 from.. your proportional representation does not align with anything I have ever heard or experienced.
How are you not describing androgyny?
(we arent a balance of yin and yang, btw. nature isnt neat like that!)
DeDukshyn
16th December 2012, 01:04
Sorry music, I meant where do you get the idea of 50 50 from.. your proportional representation does not align with anything I have ever heard or experienced.
How are you not describing androgyny?
(we arent a balance of yin and yang, btw. nature isnt neat like that!)
I think Music may be referring to energy whereas you may be referring to physicality? Energetically we all have the ability to be equal in masculine and feminine or switch to whatever is best suited, but physically, it is usually one emphasis over the other for "physical" reasons.
I could be wrong, just throwing that out there for considerations. ;)
minkton
16th December 2012, 01:09
:biggrin: No, I am not referring to physicality.
Where do you get the idea that energetically we all have the ability to switch to being equally male or female?
Do you know anyone who has done this?
DeDukshyn
16th December 2012, 01:16
:biggrin: No, I am not referring to physicality.
Where do you get the idea that energetically we all have the ability to switch to being equally male or female?
Do you know anyone who has done this?
I can choose to emphasize my emotional body and - and the "other" side of brain if I choose to do so; likewise, I can shut that down and go with pure logic; usually there is conference between the two, yet I am fully "Man" (any doubters should just come see my interests for a while ;)) ... so while I don't become female in the physical sense that I am in any way attracted to "male" or actually feel "female", mentally, I can view things from either perspective. I am very empathic and emotional, yet, I have no issues kicking someone's ass for getting out of line from a logical or structural standpoint.
I think it is illusion and programming that, energetically, we have to be fully one, or the other, and that that "must" line up with our physicality.
In other words ... I choose to not be restricted energetically, while physically, I enjoy expressing my masculine and I feel that is my role (perhaps not applicable to all). My 2 cents ;)
music
16th December 2012, 01:18
Yes, thanks DeDukshyn, energy is all, and physical reality is an energy construct. Once immersed in physical reality, all concepts become distorted. We then further distort all through the lens of our own perceived inadequacy and fear. Society also contributes to a group distortion of all. So if I were to say that "all is not as it seems", I approach the truth closer than when I say "this is the evidence of my senses, or what my society tells me is the evidence of our senses." It is difficult to see truth while immersed in illusion, but that may well be the whole point of physical existence - we play a vast game, aimed at getting home, and society has long been structured in such a way as to conceal this very fact (or what passes as a fact within an illusion).
DeDukshyn
16th December 2012, 01:43
Yes, thanks DeDukshyn, energy is all, and physical reality is an energy construct. Once immersed in physical reality, all concepts become distorted. We then further distort all through the lens of our own perceived inadequacy and fear. Society also contributes to a group distortion of all. So if I were to say that "all is not as it seems", I approach the truth closer than when I say "this is the evidence of my senses, or what my society tells me is the evidence of our senses." It is difficult to see truth while immersed in illusion, but that may well be the whole point of physical existence - we play a vast game, aimed at getting home, and society has long been structured in such a way as to conceal this very fact (or what passes as a fact within an illusion).
There was a "left brain vs right brain" thread here not long ago that indicated if you were primarily left brained or right brained. I think this may be a reasonable indicator of energetic alignment to masculine vs feminine, and it quite often doesn't match with physical masculine / feminine qualities. I think this is very normal and not odd at all.
My 2 cents ;)
minkton
16th December 2012, 01:49
ah I see, you are equating 'kicking someone's ass' = yang and emotional/empathic is yin.
I wondered if you actually had a source that suggested 50 50 as an actual model.. interested in the idea.. but it seems not, is that right?
I would think it would be a very interesting excercise for a male to attempt to be 50% yin for any other time than when asleep, and for a female to be 50% yang .. well that is easy, as we live in a yang dominated world so false yang is mimicked routinely to cope with such habituation.
(BTw, kicking ass is usually false yang!)
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Yes, thanks DeDukshyn, energy is all, and physical reality is an energy construct. Once immersed in physical reality, all concepts become distorted. We then further distort all through the lens of our own perceived inadequacy and fear. Society also contributes to a group distortion of all. So if I were to say that "all is not as it seems", I approach the truth closer than when I say "this is the evidence of my senses, or what my society tells me is the evidence of our senses." It is difficult to see truth while immersed in illusion, but that may well be the whole point of physical existence - we play a vast game, aimed at getting home, and society has long been structured in such a way as to conceal this very fact (or what passes as a fact within an illusion).
There was a "left brain vs right brain" thread here not long ago that indicated if you were primarily left brained or right brained. I think this may be a reasonable indicator of energetic alignment to masculine vs feminine, and it quite often doesn't match with physical masculine / feminine qualities. I think this is very normal and not odd at all.
My 2 cents ;)
btw also, it is incorrect to associate yang with male and yin with female. they dont equate that simply. Many depleted and alienated males are very yin in nature, and seek to cultivate false yang, through things such as PUA and body building.
minkton
16th December 2012, 02:05
left and right side of brain do nothing so simple as correlate to male/female or yin/yang either. There are many interesting studies about working with each side of the brain, separately, isolating the two halves and dialoguing with them. Fascinatingly, they have quite different perspectives and responses to things, but nothing that could be either gender assigned or seperated out to be either yin or yang.
The truth is that there is no simple separation of the two forces. And the two forces are not separate. Hence within yin is yang and vice versa.
You may find you are more yin in the morning, or late at night, or have a yin period during the winter, or sometimes become overly yang when full of solar energy or kundalini, for example.
It is fascinating, hence my interest in asking the question as to where you got your idea from, music.
BTW DeDukshyn.. if you are interested in developing your feminine awareness, one of the most powerful ways to do this is a mirror world exercise in which you would imagine yourself as the opposite gender during sexual intercourse.
Interesting indeed.
minkton
16th December 2012, 02:15
hey pie n'eal, I just thought.. I am somewhat derailing your thread.. apologies!
(Promise I am not a CIA troll.)
music
16th December 2012, 05:30
Hi minkton, I'm sorry, I can't give you a scientific paper that demonstrates the concept, I am merely relaying what I have found to be truth while accessing higher consciousness.
Imagining yourself the opposite gender during intercourse is indeed a powerful thing to do, and a great way to cut through the BS of gender. Sex itself is an excellent way to acheive unity consciousness, but not only that, as an analogue of divine union, enourmous power (what we may legitimately call magic) is accessed which may be used to charge symbols or objects, and can be energetically broadcast. A word of caution though, in doing this we work with the pure energy of love, and if we try use it selfishly we will be delivered a lesson we would rather not have had (but obviously needed). I aim for a selfless, good-of-all energy, which I broadcast as love for all, even to you minkton, if you were actually a CIA troll :) The lost souls, after all, are in need of our love more than the loving, aware souls.
music
16th December 2012, 05:41
Left brain/right brain help. Imagine the sun rising in one hemisphere and setting in the other. Imagine the sun rising in the second hemisphere and setting in the first. Do the same with the moon, the numbers 1 through 26, and the letters A through Z. There is a region of the placental mammal brain called the corpus callosum, a bundle of nerve fibres sitting below the cortex as a bridge between the two hemispheres. It has the capacity to relay sufficient information so that the two hemispheres work as one. We have been enticed by ego-fueled duality politics to let this bridge slip into a state of much reduced utility. On topic, the unified brain is as open to intuition as the heart or gut.
markpierre
16th December 2012, 06:44
God, we've been laboring over the phenomenology of anomalous (to who?) experience for how many thousands of years? Well, maybe only a few.
I'm more interested in the phenomenology of doubt and distrust.
minkton
16th December 2012, 12:39
Music, those are nice brain exercises, where did you get those from?
I was thinking about men saying they can "get in touch with their feminine side" and wondering how often this would mean that they would be feeling happy and creative making a batch of puréed vegetables to freeze into ice cubes for baby food.
Music, yes I've done a lot of sex magic. It works!
Tony
16th December 2012, 18:35
It is interesting that when one wants to get up at a certain time, we just wake up at that time.......intuition!
music
17th December 2012, 05:13
Music, those are nice brain exercises, where did you get those from?
From a Sikh gentleman with whom I did Kundalini Yoga for many years. Once the chakras are fully functional, K yoga focuses on consciousness, awareness, and higher consciousness. Very little in the way of asanas once you're up to speed. I once spent 45 mins sucking my tongue against the roof of my mouth, so not conventional yoga!
minkton
17th December 2012, 11:52
Kechari mudra? How far up can you get your tongue? One of the things I discovered via that practice, is the subtle tongue. It doesn't seem to be mentioned... But actually one need only use the subtle tongue for full Kechari. All these tongue stretching exercises and snipping techniques are red herrings for those immersed in the non subtle mind.
Tony
17th December 2012, 12:01
At death there is no breath, no taste, no touch, only intuition....knowing.
DeDukshyn
17th December 2012, 16:33
It is interesting that when one wants to get up at a certain time, we just wake up at that time.......intuition!
I haven't used an alarm clock in about 7 years ;) And .. I don't own a watch either ;)
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