Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children...

[SilentFeathers]

This was from today too...


President Barack Obama declared Sunday he will use “whatever power” he has to prevent shootings like the Connecticut school massacre.

“What choice do we have?” Obama said at an evening vigil in the shattered community of Newtown, Conn. “Are we really prepared to say that we're powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard? Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?”

For Obama, that was an unmistakable sign that he would at least attempt to take on the explosive issue of gun control. He made clear that the deaths compelled the nation to act, and that he was the leader of a nation that was failing to keep its children safe. He spoke of a broader effort, never outlining exactly what he would push for, but outraged by another shooting rampage.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-president-obama-speaks-at-memorial-for-connecticut-school-shootings-20121216,0,360041.story

Get ready folk's, the hammer is coming down...they're coming after more than just guns.

[PixieDust]

What I find interesting about this whole ordeal is the majority populations reaction.

I have not watched a single news report or read any articles or listened to any radio stories about this horrific event.

However I still know the whole story, at least the media's story.

I have been following it on Facebook and I popped on here to see what Avalon was saying about it. To brig his post back around I find it very interesting that the Facebook world is focusing only on the victims and calling the teachers heros posting memorials and little peices honoring them for what they sacrificed and did for the children.

Usually when a massacre happens its all about the killer, take the batman shooting for instance. Sure there were a few spots about victims but it was always focusing on the killer.

What did I get from that? People are starting care about one another again. It's horrible that it took children leaving this plane to pull people out of their holes and start realizing other humans exist and care.

Of course Avalon took a more scientific view and hit on what this means for the big picture government wise and also a reminder America isn't the only country and children are being murdered everywhere.

But maybe, instead of staring down the governments and the "top guys" see what they're playing at and trying to catch them in the act of something look around and see the population. Watch the people and how they react. People are hurt and pissed conversation has started ( guns or no guns setting up cops/armed guards at schools ect) whether we are in a shift or not people are changing. Change is hard and often horrifying. Just think about what happens when your body goes through a cleanse after a long time of build up.

Through the darkness there is always light. No matter our different opinions beliefs or religious views we must all stand united and strong. All we really have is each other in the end.

Peace
Pixie

[shadowstalker]

Well at my end facebook they are posting the little poster for the teachers and children, and some are judging the shooters and they at some point make me wonder what kind of ppl some of my friends really are.. makes me sick...

[Rocky_Shorz]

remember what I was saying about coincidences...

in the last day of 3D thread, I mentioned Churchhill Pub the night before this happened...

the elementary school is at the end of Church Hill Lane...

so much is happening, but they tried to send us messages, too much going on right now for us to catch it...

no premonition dreams or anything else on this one, from anyone...

[Hervé]

It's hitting the fan.....

Did paranoid, gun-crazed mother trigger son's school killing spree? Friends say she believed world was on edge of collapse
Nancy Lanza portrayed as 'survivalist' who stockpiled food, water and guns


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249185/Connecticut-school-shooting-Did-paranoid-gun-crazed-mother-trigger-Adam-Lanzas-school-killing-spree-Friends-say-believed-world-edge-collapse.html#ixzz2FHIWJ8gf


The above is about of the same order as this one:


[...]

... gun purchases usually spike every time someone in the USA 'goes postal'.

If there is an agenda at work here, then it seems that it may involve creating a situation where a large percentage of U.S. citizens are armed to the teeth, and then, and ONLY then, will the government try to take them away, sure in the knowledge that a decent number of those armed citizens will resist, with predictable consequences.

[...]

It jus follows the "Problem - Reaction - Solution" script like clockwork!

Who created the problem and propagandized the "soon-to-be catastrophes" all along? From planet X, Nibiru, giant CMEs, global warming, giant earthquakes and tsunamis, sunk flooded coast lines, etc... that prompted the birth of "preppers" and their self-preservations against hungry looters roaming the streets of desolated cities... how many movies on the subject?

Check this thread for the statistics -- by National Geographic, no less -- on the results of such propaganda.. because, propaganda it is:

MSM Propaganda: Survey Results (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52609-MSM-Propaganda-Survey-Results)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Again, shooting reported at Mayan 14 movie theater, 1918 SW military drive. San Antonio, TX...

Spanish news reports 4 people shot?” @ksatnews awaiting confirmation from San Antonio police

Stephanie Serna: Police have not confirmed any details. Witnesses say shooting began outside in parking lot and then moved inside theater.

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BREAKING: At least 10 young girls killed after explosion in eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar: local official. More soon.
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[161803398]

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify

"The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested."

[Rocky_Shorz]

do you think a drinking buddy might have been helping her with her son?


“She'd take them to the range a lot. … Nancy was an enthusiast -- so much so that she wanted to pass it on to her kids,” said her former landscaper, and occasional drinking buddy, Dan Holmes.

[TargeT]

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify

"The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested."

Wow, I think the message is getting pretty "clear" for those who are set to testify on the LIBOR case... this is a very interesting "coincidence"

[onawah]

I realize there are many levels and facets to this issue.
No doubt some will not want to hear about the side I am going to mention here, but I think it's worth thinking about.
I do not at all mean to imply that the mother or the child who committed the crime were at fault, because it seems to me much more likely there was mind control involved, especially given the information that 161803398 just posted.
But the questions need to be asked as to what decisions mothers (primarily) face whose children are basically dangerous both to themselves and others due to their individual personality profiles, and it's is a subject most people don't want to think about.
I confess the book I am going to mention here is one that I found most disturbing, and really wished I hadn't read, but it certainly did make me think.
And because we need to look at the issue of sociopaths in our society and the damage they can do if not checked, I think the book was prophetic.
It was published in 1989 and was written by an amazing writer, Doris Lessing, a novel entitled The Fifth Child, from the perspective of a mother of a sociopathic child with homicidal tendencies.
She did her best to cope with him, but for the safety of her family and the other people that he came into contact with, because he could not be controlled, she considered institutionalizing him, but after actually visiting the institution, she could not go through with it.
I could not help wondering if it might not be better to keep such children institutionalized, provided they could be upgraded to be actual care facilities.
The one in the novel was a deathtrap, as most of them probably still are, if they still exist.
Although most such individuals end up in prison nowadays, apparently, at least in the US.
The families of such children should not have to shoulder the burden of these dangerous individuals by themselves, nor should prisons be the only options.
And the drugs are certainly not a solution either, which should be very clear by now!
I don't know what the solution might be, but maybe a shaman would know. Ayahuasca perhaps....or possibly there is some other jungle plant that Nature designed just for such troubled souls.
There is a good synopsis of the book here:
http://litmed.med.nyu.edu/Annotation?action=view&annid=11949

[Rocky_Shorz]

she was working on getting him help, he had been out of control for the days leading up to it...

Psychologists are clueless when it comes to dealing with children like this, they use guesswork to choose medicines

I know shrinks like their $500 a visit for helping patients, but are they helping?

a dna test would give exact analysis of what is off in the system and DNA level healing medicine can be produced...

doesn't make shrinks or pharmaceutical companies rich by curing patients, but it is the answer no one wants to talk about...

[Hervé]

Most mental instituttions are CIA MKultra institutions:



[...]

From Sue Arrigo:


I want to mention one other way in which I learned about the Finder’s Experiment. The name Finders comes from a CIA slang word that was popular about the time this experiment started.

It was F***ed Into Not Denying (FIND). A boss at the CIA would tell an employee “Go find out who did this”.

It was like a game of musical chairs. Everyone would deny that they did it until finally somebody was the scapegoat and was f***ed into not being able to deny it.

[...]

Georgetown University should be called CIA U. The mental research facility is not on the main campus near the regular college students. It is on a separate piece of land that makes it harder to run away from. The name of it is not Georgetown, but it is part of Georgetown University.

Some people at the CIA have complained that attention deficit disorder is associated with the fluoridation of water and that the CIA refused to release the data on it in order to keep getting so many almost normal kids delivered to the door of their mind control clinics around North America.

They also complain that the CIA knows the treatment for attention deficit disorder, a drug to chelate the fluoride and expel it from the body and refuses to publish that data as well.

It is true that there are a number of books on the subject for internal consumption at the CIA. An ordinary epidemiologist could look at the issue and find out if those rumors within the CIA are true.

The reason everything was limited to two weeks was that was the length of time that the in-hospital psychiatric hospitalization could maximally be extended to, to run basically healthy kids “through testing of their condition”. The CIA developed a bunch of bogus tests to run on ADD kids to justify their two-week hospitalization like “withdrawing them from sugar, food dyes, etc.”

When this University facility’s history in mind control comes to the public’s attention, it will be a little hairy. Hundreds, no thousands, of parents will suddenly want to know if their child, grown or otherwise, was a mind control subject or in the control group. I will mention in passing three fairly reliable methods of knowing that.

That information comes from CIA reports about what to do to confuse parents if they get to another therapist later, ie what disinformation to give them to prevent them from uncovering that the kid was mind controlled.

That first piece of disinformation is -- "No one can tell if a person is a mind control victim—certainly not regular family and neighbors, only a qualified therapist could know and since they can’t tell no one can"

That is given because the CIA found out that 56% of the children were discovered to have been uncovered by relatives and family members as "robotic" or "messed up in their minds" or "with inexplicable behaviors that came from outside of themselves"

Teachers were particularly good at distinguishing control kids from experimental kids, and a number of teachers near that facility were killed by the CIA—on the order of a dozen in a decade.

The second piece of disinformation that the CIA primed therapists around the world have dispended is that it is "normal" for kids to act out in their teenage years by cross-dressing. It turned out that just the opposite is true of normal teenagers. They want to define their sexual identity and not cross dress.

Teenagers are the most intolerant to cross dressing per CIA research. Unless of course, they are mind control subjects and have been trained to sexually please chicken hawks by boys dressing as girls. There is no market for girls dressed as boys so the cross dressing only goes in one direction.

Surprisingly, the CIA research showed that homosexual boys rarely cross dressed on their own at that age - unless they had been used by porn filmmakers, chicken hawks and mind controllers. So the presence of cross-dressing in a teenage boy is highly predictive that he is a mind control or abuse victim.

The third piece of disinformation that the CIA fed therapists in journals to fool them and the parents is a bit subtler. The disinformation said "There is no normal age at which children should be told about sex. Sex education can occur at any age — it is up to the parents to decide. And sex education may be bad for kids so maybe we shouldn’t have it in our schools..."

The CIA spent a lot of money to convince parents, churches, and schools not to have real sex education classes. The reason was that when kids were allowed to freely talk in a group about their sexual experiences or fantasies or theories of sex, the kids themselves could see that some of them had very different levels of exposure to and sophistication in these matters.

So if sex education had to be taught the CIA wanted canned talks in which the kids were not allowed to talk. It thus trained sex educators to control the amount kids could talk and tried to make it taboo for the kids to talk to each other afterwards.

The CIA also found out that there was a best age for sex education –about the start of puberty. So then they fostered some campaigns to force the education to be earlier. The reason for that was that some young child whose native curiosity would not lead to sophisticated knowledge of sexual action, were coming out with it in front of parents and therapists.

It was better for the CIA if they could say that the kid learned it in a sex education class than from CIA prostitution of them. So although it sounds contradictory, the CIA’s bottom line on sex education disinformation was—don’t have sex education classes, but if you must have them have them very early and don’t let kids talk at them. Make it a more taboo subject by the way you skirt it or only allow it to be taught in a very short segment and never referred to again.

The CIA sponsored conferences for sex educators under a front company call “First Dating Experiences” if I remember correctly. Or maybe just “First Experiences”. When the abstinence only people objected the name of the front company was called something like “Wait for Marriage, Inc."

It was the same front. The same staff, address etc. The CIA also pushes abstinence and marital fidelity fronts while not practicing these things themselves. It does that to increase the effectiveness of its blackmail ops.

Sexual blackmail only works when the society is condemning towards others. It is not the abstinence of fidelity that the CIA is after, it is the condemning of others it is after.

Condemning is a form of hate and the CIA provokes hate and condemning as a way of controlling others. It is a mind control technique that can then be used to get people to fight wars etc against their best interests.

The CIA is looking for “handles” into a person’s psyche—an emotional issue that drives a person to act. Then it exploits it. It also creates handles by funding songs and lyrics into existence. That is another whole level of mind control directed at a population instead of individuals.

I have gotten off track some here. This is useful information but not staying focused on the main topic.

[tests to run on ADD kids to justify their two-week hospitalization] It was a total scam. They just needed something so difficult that parents couldn’t easily do at home to con the parent into letting Johnny stay at the hospital. They withdrew the food alright. They barely fed the kids at all. They fed them out of boxes, pre-packaged potato chips like Pringles and called that a sugar free diet. The last day the parents would come to pick the kid up and the interaction was observed carefully to see how well the kid could lie about his stay and what he had eaten in the hospital.

It was a complete fantasy. The kid had been down in the basement without a bed, clothes, or single hot meal. The kids that passed had incredible abilities to make believe. So good that they even believed it. They were multiples just like me. They had gone through an hour’s hypnosis at the end of that torture and with the help of the hypnotist had imagined all that had happened to them in that two-week period of time.

The parents were told that they couldn’t see the kids because the kids needed to learn a new way to relate to them to help their ADD, and that had to be learned well before they saw them again.

The parents wanted a break from their ADD kids for 2 weeks so it worked. And the kids did relate to their parents differently after two weeks of hard torture without a hot meal. Meanwhile, some say the CIA did actually give them the fluoride chelating drug—a pill once a day so that the ADD was better. The program was popular with parents.

The University facility touted its benefits. Researchers forged results to show how effective it was and others studied how to torture the kids and split their minds more reliably.

Not all kids split well enough to pretend, or keep up the pretense. These are the ones people know of as the Finder kids. They were taken away from their parents. They were not able to find pushers in their communities, so they were sent to be sex slaves and drug mules where they didn’t have to perform at as high a level.

If they couldn’t even do that, they were killed. They were not one-use kids for the sexual/torture use of the Ultra-rich, they were already used goods. The kids that Bush Sr. was expending were kids that came to that facility that were selected to be held in reserve for his use and his use only. Their parents had applied for their son’s hospitalization but the “application had been held up.”

Bush, Sr. had a certain look of boy he liked, like the youngest boy “Eager to Beaver” in the Brady House Boys (?). They looked like he looked when he was a boy before “it happened to him” at age 6. He kept on sodomizing kids like his dad sodomized him. His father kept it up much longer than others can imagine. He kept it up until he was close to death. Some things run in families.

Would you want to see your dad if that continued to be what you had to submit to? Dark and ugly secrets that even the principals might not know—what with multiplicity being what it is. Bush, Sr. — does he even know that he goes to that base and why? I leave it to your remote viewing skills and imagination to decide.

I was not at the CIA because of my ability to imagine what loose ends there were. I was there to know what loose ends there were and failing to know could cost me my life and more than that.

The actual results were that the CIA training was not adequate in amount or quality to do anything to train a kid in pushing. So the experiment was not a test of that at all. The experiment was a cover story for how to get the kids into one’s hands.

[...]

[Sabrina]

http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/

14 Dec post has analysis on this tragedy.

[ThePythonicCow]

http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/

14 Dec post has analysis on this tragedy.

Here's a direct link to that post, for more convenient access in the future: WHO DID NEWTOWN CONNECTICUT SHOOTINGS? (http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-shootings.html)

[ThePythonicCow]

Here's a direct link to that post, for more convenient access in the future: WHO DID NEWTOWN CONNECTICUT SHOOTINGS? (http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/newtown-connecticut-shootings.html)
I have made a local copy of that web page, in case the on-line copy "disappears". If at some point in the future, you want to read that blog post, and it is no longer available, try asking me for "Scrapbook Plus -- aangirfan: WHO DID NEWTOWN CONNECTICUT SHOOTINGS?" (Scrapbook Plus is the Firefox tool I use to make local copies of "interesting" web pages ... I've just started using it ... so far I'm quite pleased with it.)

[markpierre]

I was sent this.

Not sure what to make of a Libor scandal tie-in. Seems a bit overthetop syncro. Any other mention in the thread? It's gotten too long too fast to search through it.


http://maxkeiser.com/2012/12/17/mass-shootings-connected-to-libor-scandal/

[witchy1]

The link -- psychiatric drugs. Here are some examples specifically to schools http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?p=school
You can sort the list different ways.
Sorry its messy - trying to clean it up - The list is bit bigger than I thought. Mods shall I make a new thread????? Maybe take out the anything not fatal......

What are our babies doing on this crap!!!!!!!!!!

School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=2357) Prozac WITHDRAWAL2008-02-15Illinois** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=785) Prozac Antidepressant2005-03-24Minnesota**10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1145) Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant2001-03-10Pennsylvania**14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=5007) Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med2011-07-11Alabama**14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1568) Zoloft Antidepressant1995-10-12South Carolina**15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3216) Med For Depression2009-03-13Germany**16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Hostage Situation (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=4698) Med For Depression2010-12-15France**17 Year Old with School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=302) Anafranil Antidepressant1988-05-20Illinois**29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=190) Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants1999-04-20Colorado**COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Stabbings (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=4852) Antidepressants2001-06-09Japan**Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=609) Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL1998-05-21Oregon**Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Stabbing (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=5227) Med For Depression2011-10-25Washington**Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1138) Antidepressant2006-09-30Colorado**Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Machete Attack (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1366) Med for Depression2001-09-26Pennsylvania**Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Shooting Related (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1711) Luvox1993-07-23Florida**Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3979)SSRI2010-02-19Finland**On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1725)Antidepressant?2007-04-18Virginia**Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1724)Antidepressant?2002-01-17Virginia**Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=248)Prozac Antidepressant1992-01-30Michigan**School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
School Violence/Murder (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1628)Antidepressants*1998-05-04New York**Sheriff's Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
School Knifing/Murder (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=4160)Meds For Depression & ADHD2010-04-28Massachusetts**Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
School Stabbing (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=4339)Wellbutrin2006-12-04Indiana**Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=2186)Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL2007-11-07Finland**Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
School Shooting (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1099)Celexa Antidepressant2006-08-30North Carolina**Teen Shoots at Two Students: Kills his Father: Celexa Found Among his Personal Effects
School Hostage Situation (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=1370)Prozac/ Paxil Antidepressants2001-01-18California**Teen [17 Years Old] Takes Girl Hostage at School: He is Killed by Police
School Knife Attack (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3214)Treatment For Depression & Strattera2009-03-10Belgium**Three Dead in School Day Care: Two Children & a Caregiver: Happened Jan 23, 2009
School Violence (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=63)Celexa Antidepressant2002-01-23Florida**Violent 8 Year-Old Boy Arrested At School
School Shooting/Suicide (http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=224)Celexa2002-10-07Texas**Young Girl [13 Years Old] Kills Self at School With a Gun

List toooo long....new thread started.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53240-Psychiatriac-Drugs-linked-to-school-fatalities-and-excessive-violence&p=600387#post600387 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53240-Psychiatriac-Drugs-linked-to-school-fatalities-and-excessive-violence&p=600387#post600387)

[ThePythonicCow]

It copied in really ugly like, though witchy1 did clean it up as best as could be done. :). Best to go directly to the link to read it: http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?p=school

The list shows about 68 school shootings and similar incidents involving psychiatric drugs in the US since 1988. I don't know any practical way to display this data within an Avalon forum post as well as it displays on the original page.

[witchy1]

shall I make a new thread for this topic Paul???

[ThePythonicCow]

shall I make a new thread for this topic Paul???
That could be an interesting thread, yes, especially with a little bit more research and discussion if you have the time for that. Thanks!

It's a subject that touches many of us.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

There are literally thousands if not millions who have been programmed by video games

As usual you are cautiously eloquent in putting your thoughts into writing, but i think you are quite safe when you say millions, i think the last video game i played was space invaders and that was more then 30 years ago by now i guess, and looking at the games currently played, the wars games, assasin games, grand theft and whatever else **** they produce and drop on the masses are absolutely disgusting and anything but promoting constructive action for the betterment of mankind, no wonder the human condition is in this sorry state, stop buying this crap for yourselves and your kids people, and if you feel the need to act out on your frustrations, just go to a gym and find a sparring partner thats matches your skills and see how you stand up to that, life is not all about meditating you know, there are things one just can not OM away.

This latest shooting just stinks up to high heaven, again, and this is slightly besides the point but to an autist there is no greater satisfaction then the logic of pushing a button and getting a predictible response every time ( that makes sense to them) Pointing fingers at autistic kids/people ( like they are all the same) is just insanity straight up, the only thing they have in common is needing a predictible outcome to an action or situation, because people have expressions and emotions and a way of speaking that can sometimes make little sense to them ( and how can blame them we can be puzzling enough as is dont we?) they like things with a predictable outcome, like every time when i push this button, the exact same thing happens and thats creates a comfort zone for them and they feel safe in it, for that matter a trigger serves the same purpose for everyone pulling it, so here you go.

I also have a collegue with autism and know a teacher who is autistic and as with everybody else, everybody has his own personality and interests and the same goes for them, most of them actually hate violence and any extreme hard to grasp emotion ( now what does that facial expression mean? i see a mouth with its corners pulled up, that must be a smile, o yeah right, the proper response is to smile back, i will smile back at curled up corners of mouths untill i get my interpretation of this expression right or maybe i will just guess and hope for the best, maybe i will feel less insecure in social situations then, damn why do people have so many faces, and every face is different too, are there many different smiles, dear lord where do i begin), sound ( damn ears of mine, i hear everything, the faucet is dripping again, damn clock, i must buy a digital one, please turn down that music i cannot focus), smell ( ow hi ... so good to see you again, ooooow what is that smell, it is so intrusive ( deodorant, laundry detergent, hair gel, spicy food), sight ( never wear bright colors or thing with loud texts on them that can be interpreted in different ways, a t shirt that says "a day without sunshine is a day without fusion"might be an exeption, and what have we, these thingsusually hit them like a hammer and stick with them.

[Cidersomerset]

This is misleading...." Survivalist " pointing the finger in 'paranoia direction'...!!



Hollywood & TV are full of disaster films and programmes !!
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The Telegrapth on line........


Connecticut school shooting: Adam Lanza's mother was preparing for disaster
The mother of the gunman who killed 20 children and seven adults in America’s
worst school massacre, was a gun-proud “survivalist” preparing for economic
collapse, it has emerged.


By Jon Swaine, Connecticut and Peter Foster in Washington
9:45PM GMT 16 Dec 2012
Nancy Lanza, whose gun collection was raided by her son Adam for Friday’s
massacre at Sandy Hook school, was part of the “prepper” movement, which
urges readiness for social chaos by hoarding supplies and training with weapons.

“She prepared for the worst,” her sister-in-law Marsha Lanza told reporters.
“Last time we visited her in person, we talked about prepping – are you
ready for what could happen down the line, when the economy collapses?”
It also emerged that Mrs Lanza had spoken of her fears less than a week
before the attack that she was “losing” her son. “She said it was getting
worse. She was having trouble reaching him,” said a friend of Mrs Lanza
who did not want to be named.


more on link....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9749217/Connecticut-school-shooting-Adam-Lanzas-mother-was-preparing-for-disaster.html

[Cidersomerset]

Like he says its the fourth time since he became President he has had to address the country
over mass shootings. He should be looking behind him at the ' mind controlled hysteria '
to keep the the elites in control. We know the agenda...Cold war, Terrorists, cyber terror.
and any other 'bogeyman' to keep the public in a state of fear!

Which leads into the theory if we are being manipulated by interdimensional entities
that live off the energy given of by humans especially heightened, when in fear would
explain alot of what is going on .....



6jRGA2sBDMw


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Then listen to this item about the Mil ind complex.........TPTB has got
America so paranoid that everyone is out to get us since 9/11 that
the whole thing has got out of control !!

The us military is bigger than the next 13 countries put together ! This is certainly
not what the founding fathers envisaged...I thought the 2nd amendment
was to prevent this happening ! Washington becoming to powerfull.

After rebeling against the British empire , to becoming the biggest military
empire in history would have them all turning in their graves . I think !!


Too Big To Fail Defense Contractors

rkV4OqQOapg


Published on 10 Dec 2012


Some lawmakers are doing all they can to prevent Sequestration and its defense cuts,
largely citing jobs as the reason why the U.S. can't lessen funding to the military.
Are defense contractors too big to fail?

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iBgrOb7qyn0


All these items are strategically linked , behind the scenes these countries
are run by the same groups of cabels !!


North Korea is going to nuke us ! Scare, fear......Iran will arm Hezbollah ! Scare
fear.............Its been the same every 10/20 years a new' bogey'man !


Even if its not this the 'revolving doors' between The corporates, Pentagon
and Washington is extrememly unhealthy for democracy and the average
American.


AAoqpszvuBk


Published on 13 Dec 2012


For nearly a decade, the US military has occupied Afghanistan to fight the war on
terror. President Obama recently called for the end of the controversial war and will
have US troops pulled by 2014, but the American occupation won't end there.
Now, the US Department of Commerce and the International Franchise Association
are making way for American franchises such as RadioShack and Hertz to begin
business operations in the country. So was this America's plan all along? Michael
Brooks, producer for The Majority Report, brings us more on America's influence abroad.

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Sorry I got a bit off topic, but I have found many of the events going on are all
linked in the bigger jig saw puzzle of life ...Cheers steve...

[MorningSong]

Hot off of breakingnews.com!

Folks, watch what you post on the forum or anywhere else regarding the Mass Shootings at the Connecticut schoool! The State of Connecticut will prosecute people perpertrating "mis-info" reported on social media sites when they are identified.

N4CT4boLPrU

[Cidersomerset]

Hot off of breakingnews.com!

Folks, watch what you post on the forum or anywhere else regarding the Mass Shootings at the Connecticut schoool! The State of Connecticut will prosecute people perpertrating "mis-info" reported on social media sites when they are identified.

I knew this was comming after Lord Mc Alpine did it over here !!



Re: President Obama's Newtown speech.



The political saying 'Never let a serious crisis go to waste ' !

Its all part of the 'Dark art of Politics' ....Democratic or Despotic...

This is how governments or groups behind the scenes set or manipulate
agenda's.If things were going along nicely powerfull people would get
bored and have no 'fun' so to get their kicks its at the majorities expence !


http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/December20129/6357_475723055802997_1319539254_n.png



History is full of it from the courts of Samaria, Babylon the city states
of Greece , Alexander , Carthage, Rome , The Bible stories ,Mayans
Incas, Aztecs, Toltex,Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Byzantines,Ottomans
and many more thru the mass killings of the 20th century industrial
warefare to the last current 'Empire' The corporate & military complex
of the USA.

Think of all the advisors, 'Think Tanks' annalysts employed to keep
the same 'old status Quo'...



I came across it while doing this thread....It shows you how these elites
keep ahead of the game think of Kissenger , Chenney, Rumsfedt and the likes!!

Whether Lord Mc Alpine was innocent or not ! He knew exactly how to silnce
the press & Media and scare web users as well. Watch this tactic used again
by politicians & governments!!





Re: How Jimmy was able to Fix it !!!



Lord Mc Alpine is a veteran of the political trenches of the Thatcher era....

A Goliath against David in the world of intrigue and smoke and mirrors !!


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lQLXTfgRgUw/UKoAjEI_WCI/AAAAAAAAIwI/1L3x3T8H63g/s1600/Snapshot+2012-11-19+08-52-45.tiff




http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/2010-02/thenewmachiavelli.jpg



The above was written in 1999...from McAlpine's book The New Machiavelli - The Art of Politics in Business




Lord McAlpine on How To Deal With The Media: “Another option is for the businessperson to learn the art of dealing with the media, using all the tricks that go with that trade – such as the false defeat: when a person seems to lose, in order to gain public sympathy, or the false triumph: where a person seems to win in order to appear strong – thus giving credibility to any number of dubious propositions that person may wish to make in the future. Neither of these ploys are examples of the use of true facts, rather of false facts given to the media to chew on, much as a dog chews on a bone. Another useful ploy is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are wrongly accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt. Those who have made accusations against both the company and its management become discredited. Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion. Always remember that people’s memories are very frail, remembering only both the high spots and the lows of a person’s career, and then seldom remembering accurately. People believe in the facts that it suits them to believe.”


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Machiavelli-...dp/0471350958/

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/1...feat-your.html



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53229-President-Obama-s-Newtown-speech.&p=600367#post600367


A lot of things are linked and they will be tightening the screws more tightly
if we let them !!

[Mark]

There are literally thousands if not millions who have been programmed by video games

As usual you are cautiously eloquent in putting your thoughts into writing, but i think you are quite safe when you say millions, i think the last video game i played was space invaders and that was more then 30 years ago by now i guess, and looking at the games currently played, the wars games, assasin games, grand theft and whatever else **** they produce and drop on the masses are absolutely disgusting and anything but promoting constructive action for the betterment of mankind, no wonder the human condition is in this sorry state, stop buying this crap for yourselves and your kids people, and if you feel the need to act out on your frustrations, just go to a gym and find a sparring partner thats matches your skills and see how you stand up to that, life is not all about meditating you know, there are things one just can not OM away.

The games we played back then had no winners or losers, just top scores. They kept getting harder and harder until you died. Like life. I played daily pretty much until Sega Genesis, at which point I determined I was no longer willing to spend all those hours playing. I did break that rule to play the first two Doom games and the first Resident Evil. They got too crazy and startling after that, so I was done with them, also, as many others, seeing where they were headed

Since then, the games have gotten conversely easier and harder. Easier, in that now you can win...you level up and the games generally have story-lines and ends. Harder, in that, the controller for playing has so many buttons and toggles that it is a spatial endeavor just to learn how to use them. And then, when you learn how, you then have to learn how to manipulate your character on screen, effectively learning 3-Dimensional Consciousness Displacement in order to locate yourself within the game and move within the construct of the game in a normal and effective manner. This is no easy task. Having friends who play, a few years ago I took the time to learn how to play one of the shoot-em-ups. It took me, literally, days, and the difficulty was not learning the pad, but in the spatial orientation aspect.

I continue along this point in this thread specifically to address the points you and others made about how the games can be comforting for people who are anti-social and who have difficulty with emoting for whatever reason. Once you learn to play these games, can manipulate the controller pad at an unconscious level so that when you are in the game you are effectively IN the game, the game becomes real to the mind in every way. There is solid research showing that the mind does not differentiate between what the eyes and senses experience and what we imagine. In the context of video games, what that means is that they are as real as the real world. Now that you can interact online and play them with others, this is even moreso the case.

I know the military has an online game of this sort that they use in order to recruit people. I'm quite certain that intelligence agencies have some facsimile of this as well. The structures of the game can be designed to input certain behavior responses and to initiate thought processes, and the subliminal aspect of the games can be manipulated as well with phrases, images, words, etc. The overt violent nature of the games is now passe' but the societal effects of 2 generations brought up living in these virtual worlds and killing countless thousands (me being cautiously eloquent again) is a payment that must come due sooner rather than later, considering the economic and social conditions we are currently experiencing.

The psychological and social aspects of mental illness when combined with gaming are daunting and real and play a large part in violence in general in our society as well as the particular form of violence we have most recently been privy too. With all of that said, I add the caveat of this being a potential false flag, which speaks to the question of whether or not the young man currently being blamed for the crime actually did it, but even if he did not and it was a team of some sort, sent for whatever nefarious reason, you can be certain that those who carried out these horrendous acts have spent quite a bit of time at some point in their lives in front of a screen, with a controller in their hands, lost in dark fantasies of blood and pain.

[musicadi]

So, here are the events (again):

22/9 - 31/9 - Hurricane SANDY
4/12 - 5:30 AM - King Edward VII hospital prank call, answered by Jacintha Saldanha
7/12 - c. 9:30 AM - Jacintha Saldanha is found dead
12/12 - 7:30 PM - 1:20 AM - the concert for SANDY relief, streamed and broadcast live on nearly EVERY major international TV station
14/12 - c. 9:35 AM -9:53 AM - murder at SANDY hook, the shooter's name: Adam LANZA=LANCE in Spanish (tipp: Lancelot)
14/12 - c. 8:30 PM - murder at hotel EXCALIBUR in Las Vegas
17/12 - c. 10:30 PM - the two GRAIL spacecrafts will be crashed on the moon (tip: Holy Grail)

....anything else?

[Cognitive Dissident]

This is just crazy... the local paper reports talking to the school principal (later shot dead) on the phone while the shooting is going on.

Not mentioned elsewhere as far as I can see - the official story makes no sense... link below, copy it before it disappears.

http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012-12-14__11-05-25/Shooting+Reported+Sandy+Hook+Elementary+School

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hot off of breakingnews.com!

Folks, watch what you post on the forum or anywhere else regarding the Mass Shootings at the Connecticut schoool! The State of Connecticut will prosecute people perpertrating "mis-info" reported on social media sites when they are identified.

N4CT4boLPrU

so all the original news that came out was wrong...

wrong brother etc... are they going to go scoop up Ted Turner?

[amandapoet]

It wasn't the principal that called, but a parent in the principal's office...easy to see how that could get confused .

[Rocky_Shorz]

So, here are the events (again):

22/9 - 31/9 - Hurricane SANDY
4/12 - 5:30 AM - King Edward VII hospital prank call, answered by Jacintha Saldanha
7/12 - c. 9:30 AM - Jacintha Saldanha is found dead
12/12 - 7:30 PM - 1:20 AM - the concert for SANDY relief, streamed and broadcast live on nearly EVERY major international TV station
14/12 - c. 9:35 AM -9:53 AM - murder at SANDY hook, the shooter's name: Adam LANZA=LANCE in Spanish (tipp: Lancelot)
14/12 - c. 8:30 PM - murder at hotel EXCALIBUR in Las Vegas
17/12 - c. 10:30 PM - the two GRAIL spacecrafts will be crashed on the moon (tip: Holy Grail)

....anything else?

shooting at the Mayan theater last night...

[Rocky_Shorz]

This is just crazy... the local paper reports talking to the school principal (later shot dead) on the phone while the shooting is going on.

Not mentioned elsewhere as far as I can see - the official story makes no sense... link below, copy it before it disappears.

http://newtownbee.com/News/News/2012-12-14__11-05-25/Shooting+Reported+Sandy+Hook+Elementary+School


Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

so she saw him enter the school?

on the phone with a reporter?

police channel must have put out an emergency call for immediate response heard by the reporters...

with everything going on, the secretary transferred the call from a reporter to the principal?

[Earth Angel]

this pretty much sums it up....

[Rocky_Shorz]

very strange, I was wondering who was behind this when I read the name and it morphed from Hochsprung, to KochSprung...

his University of Psychotic drugs...

his connection to the creation of the drug used in Bath Salts... the zombie drug...

destroying water tables, the air we breath and MKultra terror attacks?

both fathers testifying on Libor...

Showing the mother to be a crazy gun fanatic ready for financial collapse...

is this a warning to all elites that the shadows have the ability to take control of a child's mind and destroy, the family, community, hurt the emotions of a nation... Killing a child with their own actions... threatening to kill a child taken to monstrous extremes for blackmail...

Fulford says the Fed Reserve is going down, the announcement on the 13th on the New Moon and this to follow...

Indonesia...

Obama, and his gold ring...

Indonesia gold about to save the world...

this book we are living is getting exciting...

[norman]

Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

[shadowstalker]

Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

I am glad i am not the only one who caught that, thanks for the confirmation..

[Belle]

Regarding the calls for gun control...

Interesting article on the Oregon mall shooting found at http://www.examiner.com/article/media-blackout-oregon-mall-shooter-was-stopped-by-an-armed-citizen

"Media Blackout: Oregon mall shooter was stopped by an armed citizen"

From the article:

"While reports of Tuesday's shooting at the Clackamas Town Center Mall in Oregon, dominated the national media, until Friday's horrific shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, one very important detail has been repeatedly (and intentionally) left out of the MSM's coverage.

The shooter, Jacob Tyler Roberts, was confronted with an armed citizen, at which time he ran away and shot himself. By the time police arrived on the scene, Roberts was already dead."

More at above link.


Also included in the article...

"...are a few facts about armed Americans:

-In 1982, the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an ordinance which required all heads of household to have at least one gun in the house. The burglary rate immediately dropped an astounding 89 percent. Ten years after the law was passed, the burglary rate was still 72 percent less than it was in 1981.

-Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).

-A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rates by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent, and robbery by 3 percent.

-According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals, firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.

-A 1979 Justice Department study entitled Rape Victimization in American Cities, concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32 percent were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.

-Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running the police."

[SilentFeathers]

This is a clear example of how idiotic, ridiculous, stupid, and hypocritical some people are....

Some of the most extreme far left anti-gun people, who hate guns and want them ALL outlawed, are now calling for the president of the NRA and it's members to be....well,.....SHOT.

Hypocrisy at it's finest!

NRA Leaders and Members Getting Death Threats
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/17/civility-nra-leaders-and-members-getting-death-threats-n1468555

[Carmody]

I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?

[Carmody]

Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

The initial report that I heard, concerning her situation, was that the shooter was asking to be let in. In a nice way (was the impression).

[Cidersomerset]

I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?




I agree its probably why positve ET's if they are monitoring are scared to land on the White House Lawn !!

By being greeted with a hail of bullets !


I am glad our society in the UK has few guns and I feel safe in my community.But things change , people
still die here by gunfire, and Northern Irland has been rumbling again.Also a 'false flag' could come
at anytime. Guns are not the only mass murder weapon, in Rwanda the Machette killed more than
bullets.....
Flooding the countries with weapons does not help, but its deeper than that, many countries
have lots of civil weapons, without these 'Lone white male killing machines' !! although don't be surprised
if the next attack is not 'black, brown or a woman' ! They know we are onto them !

On the radio this morning there was a report 10 girls were killed by a
land mine while collecting fire wood in Afghanistan....


http://web.orange.co.uk/images/ice/news/bskyb_image_210195_v1_rtr3bo9z_1_400x240.jpg

Ten young girls have been killed by a landmine explosion in eastern Afghanistan, officials say.The children were collecting firewood when one of them accidentally struck the mine with an axe, according to Chapahar district governor Mohammad Seddiq Dawlatzai. The victims were aged nine to 13. Two other girls were critically injured and are being treated in hospital. "An old mine left over from the time of the jihad (against Soviet troops in the 1980s) exploded, killing 10 girls and wounding two others," Mr Dawlatzai said. However police chief General Abdullah Stanikzai said Taliban insurgents were to blame.Since 1989, when the Soviets withdrew after a 10-year military occupation, nearly 700,000 mines and more than 15m other explosives left over from decades of war have been destroyed, according to UN figures.But despite international clearance efforts, more than three decades of war have left Afghanistan one of the most heavily-mined countries in the world.

The explosives were laid during three recent conflicts: the 1980s war against the Russians, the 1990s civil war, and during fighting between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban before they were ousted from power in 2001.The Taliban also plant bombs, or improvised explosive devices, to target Afghan and Nato troops but these regularly kill civilians.Afghan President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly appealed to the insurgents as well as the Nato-led forces in Afghanistan to avoid civilian casualties.In the first six months of 2012, 1,145 Afghan civilians were killed and around 2,000wounded, mostly by roadside bombs. Women and children account for about 30% of this year's casualties.Meanwhile there are reports that one person has been killed and at least 30 injured in a blast in the capital Kabul.It happened outside the compound of US military contractor Contrack. Afghan police say the attacker drove a car packed with explosives into the compound's wall.




http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/afghan_bomb_blast_kills_10_young_girls

[Flash]

yes collecting firewood for the survival of their family and dying from it by big men who have put on some bombs - I barely see the difference between situations

Certainly none from the children point of view now or from the parent's heart bleeding.

[Debra]

Just reading Michael Moore's facebook page at the moment - two threads specifically: Obama's speech to Newtown and Happy Birthday Bradley Manning.

What is fascinating is how roughly one half and maybe more of the readers responding to these threads, representing his 687,000 membership, are simply furious at Obama and his government. A huge sea change from a few weeks ago when there was an overwhelming show of support to return him into a second term. Moore was lobbying hard for that.

Today, according to the temperature on Moore's page, there is a very palpable belief that Obama and his administration are a gang of liars, criminal for ignoring the emerging facts and holes in this Sandy Hook case, and above all, hypocrites and international murderers.

I wonder if Moore is now being used as a litmus test on issues these days?
https://www.facebook.com/mmflint

[Flash]

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Bachmann saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

I bet anything that Obama's tears while giving his first speech had to do with the numerous threat he has received regarding his own children, ithreats from some nuts, but mostly threats from his inner circles (the one party govenrment)

[Cidersomerset]

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Buchanan saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

It does not make much difference....Romney might have quickened the pace to war with Iran . But Obamas record on military spending,Drone strikes etc is

worse than Bush....The agenda seems to be the "AGENDA" who evers in the Whitehouse !

[modwiz]

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Buchanan saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

It does not make much difference....Romney might have quickened the pace to war with Iran . But Obamas record on military spending,Drone strikes etc is

worse than Bush....The agenda seems to be the "AGENDA" who evers in the Whitehouse !

It's like horsesh!t or dogsh!t. Horsesh!t doesn't smell as bad. I don't think Romney could fake a tear unless you closed up access to all of his offshore accounts. I think Obama would be more easy come, easy go, for his accounts. The hush money needs to go somewhere.

I wonder if he gets paid by the drone attack? :confused:

[Cidersomerset]

I wonder if he gets paid by the drone attack?




Yep !!!

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/155458_341424089298174_204347478_n.jpg

I did post this earlier ....

SGV3nohWHgA


Published on 16 Dec 2012


Since the beginning of the war on terror, the US has poured trillions of dollars into defense spending and nation building. Although President George W. Bush kicked off the new policies abroad, Obama hasn't skipped a beat in continuing the same strategies. President Obama has exceeded his predecessor by authorizing nearly six times more drone strikes than Bush all in the name of the war on terror. RT's Liz Wahl has more
RT America LIVE http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/

[778 neighbour of some guy]

On the Dutch news they just called the shooters family a prepper family and made them sound like nutsjobs and the kid was destined to go on a killing spree being raised like that.

[TargeT]

On the Dutch news they just called the shooters family a prepper family and made them sound like nutsjobs and the kid was destined to go on a killing spree being raised like that.

yes, that seems to be a part of the narrative also... I'm involved with many "prepper" types & "nutjob" is the last word I would use for them.. some are "overly cautious" but not nuts, it's not crazy to think about possible natural disasters and prepare to take care of your family, especially with the MANY examples of failure on the part of FEMA & the government (isn't New Jersey still struggling from sandy?)


I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?

in your perfect world will bears and wolfs and moose leave me alone when I'm out hiking?

guns aren't just for crazy bipeds, there's plenty of crazy quadrupeds out there as well.

There's one, and ONLY one place you will find me 100% armed every time, & that is out on the rivers & trails of alaska; that is the only time I'm ALWAYS carrying a fire arm, around town it's more like 70% (or less if alcohol is going to be involved)

I listen to talk radio in the morning (can't stand the "music" today’s radio stations play repetitively), talk radio is predominantly "conservative" (Neo-con. more like it) and they were discussing how "crazy" alex jones was saying the government did this. I think this is the first time I've heard direct mudslinging of "alt" theory on a major Clearchannel (FOX NEWS) station.

The wheels seem to be loose on this one, the cart is wobbling.

[Rocky_Shorz]

This is a clear example of how idiotic, ridiculous, stupid, and hypocritical some people are....

Some of the most extreme far left anti-gun people, who hate guns and want them ALL outlawed, are now calling for the president of the NRA and it's members to be....well,.....SHOT.

Hypocrisy at it's finest!

NRA Leaders and Members Getting Death Threats
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/17/civility-nra-leaders-and-members-getting-death-threats-n1468555

I spoke with someone along those lines, ex hunter from years ago, sipping MSN koolaid...

said everyone with an assault rifle should turn them in or be shot...

I almost choked knowing who it is coming from...

lots of pain watching the funerals and stories of these innocent little kids...

when I lock and load, it will shake the world of those responsible for this false flag attack on our country, just to get guns banned...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Why did that young teacher woman refuse to come out until the Cop actually slipped his ID card under the door?

Who or what had she really seen doing the shooting etc before she got the kids in the stockroom and locked the door with a filing cabinet across the door?

Seems strange to me that she was so cautious when people claiming to be 'the good guys' spoke to her through the door.

The initial report that I heard, concerning her situation, was that the shooter was asking to be let in. In a nice way (was the impression).

well in a situation like this, it goes to animal motherly instincts...

the kids were safe with the door closed...

she didn't know if the school was under a terrorist attack, whether the shooter was still alive...

all she knew was the kids were safe, right where they were...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?




I agree its probably why positve ET's if they are monitoring are scared to land on the White House Lawn !!

By being greeted with a hail of bullets !


I am glad our society in the UK has few guns and I feel safe in my community.But things change , people
still die here by gunfire, and Northern Irland has been rumbling again.Also a 'false flag' could come
at anytime. Guns are not the only mass murder weapon, in Rwanda the Machette killed more than
bullets.....
Flooding the countries with weapons does not help, but its deeper than that, many countries
have lots of civil weapons, without these 'Lone white male killing machines' !! although don't be surprised
if the next attack is not 'black, brown or a woman' ! They know we are onto them !

On the radio this morning there was a report 10 girls were killed by a
land mine while collecting fire wood in Afghanistan....


http://web.orange.co.uk/images/ice/news/bskyb_image_210195_v1_rtr3bo9z_1_400x240.jpg

Ten young girls have been killed by a landmine explosion in eastern Afghanistan, officials say.The children were collecting firewood when one of them accidentally struck the mine with an axe, according to Chapahar district governor Mohammad Seddiq Dawlatzai. The victims were aged nine to 13. Two other girls were critically injured and are being treated in hospital. "An old mine left over from the time of the jihad (against Soviet troops in the 1980s) exploded, killing 10 girls and wounding two others," Mr Dawlatzai said. However police chief General Abdullah Stanikzai said Taliban insurgents were to blame.Since 1989, when the Soviets withdrew after a 10-year military occupation, nearly 700,000 mines and more than 15m other explosives left over from decades of war have been destroyed, according to UN figures.But despite international clearance efforts, more than three decades of war have left Afghanistan one of the most heavily-mined countries in the world.

The explosives were laid during three recent conflicts: the 1980s war against the Russians, the 1990s civil war, and during fighting between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban before they were ousted from power in 2001.The Taliban also plant bombs, or improvised explosive devices, to target Afghan and Nato troops but these regularly kill civilians.Afghan President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly appealed to the insurgents as well as the Nato-led forces in Afghanistan to avoid civilian casualties.In the first six months of 2012, 1,145 Afghan civilians were killed and around 2,000wounded, mostly by roadside bombs. Women and children account for about 30% of this year's casualties.Meanwhile there are reports that one person has been killed and at least 30 injured in a blast in the capital Kabul.It happened outside the compound of US military contractor Contrack. Afghan police say the attacker drove a car packed with explosives into the compound's wall.




http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/afghan_bomb_blast_kills_10_young_girls

a car dealership in Baghdad was setting up car bombs, when one went off...

http://www.deltaworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/A-string-of-attacks-in-several-parts-of-Iraq-leaves-45-dead-and-more-than-150-wounded-498x226.jpg


At least 45 people were killed Monday and 159 were injured in a string of attacks in different parts of Iraq, including the capital Baghdad, according to police sources. The latest attack was perpetrated by a dealer in the neighborhood of Dolai, Northwest of Baghdad, where a car bomb explosion caused eleven deaths and 45 injuries... link (http://www.deltaworld.org/international/A-string-of-attacks-in-several-parts-of-Iraq-leaves-45-dead-and-more-than-150-wounded/)

[SilentFeathers]

I am happy Obama is in place because Mitt Romney would have been more of a nightmare, not to say that Obama is not, just a lesser one.

And it is not even Obama the direct lier, but the gangs at the government, like Buchanan saying that eating chick peas makes you a terrorist (arab food), how ignorant can one get, and how ignorant is one that elected that woman.

This is where the problem is, no one at the head of government is truly able to dispute the cabal leadership.

It does not make much difference....Romney might have quickened the pace to war with Iran . But Obamas record on military spending,Drone strikes etc is

worse than Bush....The agenda seems to be the "AGENDA" who evers in the Whitehouse !

It's like horsesh!t or dogsh!t. Horsesh!t doesn't smell as bad. I don't think Romney could fake a tear unless you closed up access to all of his offshore accounts. I think Obama would be more easy come, easy go, for his accounts. The hush money needs to go somewhere.

I wonder if he gets paid by the drone attack? :confused:

Two sides of the same coin, "Heads I win, tails you lose" is how it works for them.....both stink to high heaven.

Seems they are ramping up their game big time, wouldn't surprise me one bit if this shooting was just the beginning of a series of rather large repetitive events (one after another basically more close together than we have been seeing). They've got the heads in the civilian population quite divided and spinning right now, another good "slam" and many of the sheeple would buckle and agree to just about anything the gov came up with to "make them safe"!

It's not only ridiculous what is happening, it's also quite pathetic... IMO

As 12-21-2012 approaches and passes soon, it sure looks to me not to be a time of great awakening (for many), but a time of great "duping" and "deceiving" the sheeple to sleep even deeper....I see the majority of the population falling more in to a coma rather than awakening.

[TargeT]

As 12-21-2012 approaches and passes soon, it sure looks to me not to be a time of great awakening (for many), but a time of great "duping" and "deceiving" the sheeple to sleep even deeper....I see the majority of the population falling more in to a coma rather than awakening.

we can do our best to shed doubt on the official story, plant seeds where fertile ground exists.

Keep your cellphones ready, record events if they happen & if you are armed, stop the bastards!

[Rocky_Shorz]

Just reading Michael Moore's facebook page at the moment - two threads specifically: Obama's speech to Newtown and Happy Birthday Bradley Manning.

What is fascinating is how roughly one half and maybe more of the readers responding to these threads, representing his 687,000 membership, are simply furious at Obama and his government. A huge sea change from a few weeks ago when there was an overwhelming show of support to return him into a second term. Moore was lobbying hard for that.

Today, according to the temperature on Moore's page, there is a very palpable belief that Obama and his administration are a gang of liars, criminal for ignoring the emerging facts and holes in this Sandy Hook case, and above all, hypocrites and international murderers.

I wonder if Moore is now being used as a litmus test on issues these days?
https://www.facebook.com/mmflint

the #Teaparty need someone to go after now that the election is over...

#GOP bloggers are flooding his channel to make everyone think it is a consensus...

means nothing...

if he said 9/11 was done by Cheney and company, the same ones would be screaming...

a majority of the country isn't in a fighting mood right now, and if they see shills, let them spin anger without getting involved...

I don't suppose it matters too much, they couldn't get anywhere with Benghazi's CIA's base, so now they are looking a different direction, but this goes much deeper than the puppets in power...

it's still Bush's Boys and the Teaparty Puppet Master Koch...

most people actually think the President has control over everything in the country, he's responsible, but has little control over the operations people are mad about...

look who is being hurt by those testifying in the LIBOR scandal...

now you're getting a target on responsibility...

[SilentFeathers]

As 12-21-2012 approaches and passes soon, it sure looks to me not to be a time of great awakening (for many), but a time of great "duping" and "deceiving" the sheeple to sleep even deeper....I see the majority of the population falling more in to a coma rather than awakening.

we can do our best to shed doubt on the official story, plant seeds where fertile ground exists.

Keep your cellphones ready, record events if they happen & if you are armed, stop the bastards!

I'm trying to stay optimistic and hoping for the best, but sheesh, sure looks like the hammer of the nasty is coming down as we speak!

[solosthere]

This was a trgic occurance that I felt acutely inside myself and it has lead me to the conclusion that people as a whole are to blame for this in several ways. 1. these shootings have been happening frequently and we have done nothing to stop more for occuring. 2. I think as a whole humanity has become numb to violence in our world and therefore evil has been required to go to greater and greater extrems to get the same response from people. (evil needs our sadness, fear and other negitive feels to florish). there are other ways that humanity is to blame for the shooting but these are the 2 biggest. I do hope that the rest of humanity is on the threshold of the evolutionary epiphay some of us have experienced and from my point of view some of us are but sadly many of us are not. We have seen love win out in the past few days as people across the world came together to pray and send positive energy to Newtown and direrctly to the victims of Sandy Hook. While this is a wonderful 1st step what really needs to be giving at this time is forgivness!!! Forgivness to eachother for we as a society did not prevent this from happening, Forgivness to the family of the shooter who are also suffering. Finally forgiveness, this is the hard , to the shooter for it was society that allowed him to become the monster he became. So tonight as you tuck in your little ones tell them you are sorry for the shootings in Sandy Hook Ct. For the young are truely the only ones whose hands are clean of blood of those who died!!!

[Rocky_Shorz]

On the Dutch news they just called the shooters family a prepper family and made them sound like nutsjobs and the kid was destined to go on a killing spree being raised like that.

yes, that seems to be a part of the narrative also... I'm involved with many "prepper" types & "nutjob" is the last word I would use for them.. some are "overly cautious" but not nuts, it's not crazy to think about possible natural disasters and prepare to take care of your family, especially with the MANY examples of failure on the part of FEMA & the government (isn't New Jersey still struggling from sandy?)


I am for guns.

I am against guns.

In a perfect world, we would not need, nor want them.

We are not in a perfect world.

Now....how to move toward a perfect world?

in your perfect world will bears and wolfs and moose leave me alone when I'm out hiking?

guns aren't just for crazy bipeds, there's plenty of crazy quadrupeds out there as well.

There's one, and ONLY one place you will find me 100% armed every time, & that is out on the rivers & trails of alaska; that is the only time I'm ALWAYS carrying a fire arm, around town it's more like 70% (or less if alcohol is going to be involved)

I listen to talk radio in the morning (can't stand the "music" today’s radio stations play repetitively), talk radio is predominantly "conservative" (Neo-con. more like it) and they were discussing how "crazy" alex jones was saying the government did this. I think this is the first time I've heard direct mudslinging of "alt" theory on a major Clearchannel (FOX NEWS) station.

The wheels seem to be loose on this one, the cart is wobbling.

I think if we considered Government the ones we elected it would make things much more clear...

We didn't elect the shadows, they just climbed out of a hole somewhere and took over...

there only responsibility is to protect money, their money...

they build guns, they build bombs, they sell drugs, they print money backed by air to pay for covert ops, they control the media to teach people what they are doing is right...

they are America and the World's enemies...

[Rocky_Shorz]

This was a trgic occurance that I felt acutely inside myself and it has lead me to the conclusion that people as a whole are to blame for this in several ways. 1. these shootings have been happening frequently and we have done nothing to stop more for occuring. 2. I think as a whole humanity has become numb to violence in our world and therefore evil has been required to go to greater and greater extrems to get the same response from people. (evil needs our sadness, fear and other negitive feels to florish). there are other ways that humanity is to blame for the shooting but these are the 2 biggest. I do hope that the rest of humanity is on the threshold of the evolutionary epiphay some of us have experienced and from my point of view some of us are but sadly many of us are not. We have seen love win out in the past few days as people across the world came together to pray and send positive energy to Newtown and directly to the victims of Sandy Hook. While this is a wonderful 1st step what really needs to be giving at this time is forgiveness!!! Forgiveness to each other for we as a society did not prevent this from happening, Forgiveness to the family of the shooter who are also suffering. Finally forgiveness, this is the hard , to the shooter for it was society that allowed him to become the monster he became. So tonight as you tuck in your little ones tell them you are sorry for the shootings in Sandy Hook Ct. For the young are truly the only ones whose hands are clean of blood of those who died!!!

I agree all the way up to the end, putting blame on those who have nothing to do with it is adding more pain than necessary. Most of the world is innocent, and want to make changes for the better...

62 mentally ill patients have attacked America, Palestine's mentally ill are sent out to fire rockets at Israel until they are killed... Suicide bombers...

if they didn't believe dying was better than living, they wouldn't be doing it.

it comes down to the mental health system, around the world...

the best most of us can do is bring it to people's attention that can make these changes.

and stay on them until they do...

[Fred Steeves]

Hmmm, it still never ceases to amaze me to see talk of Democrats vs. Republicans on a site such as Avalon. Unless maybe, I put myself in the mindset of: "Gee, which of my hands has caused the most trouble during my life, the right one or the left one". Being right handed myself, in all likelihood my ratio could easily be 51/49, with the right being the "bad guy". Of course the problem could then be easily solved, cut off the right hand, and Freddie is now a good boy...:rolleyes:

[Rocky_Shorz]

I agree and shouldn't get upset each time I see someone stuck on the outer peel of an onion, there are so many layers to get to the center...

this story is about the killing of innocent children, and who is responsible...

[Hervé]

For the bigger picture in which all the above gets integrated:


In 1979 McNamara repeated his message to the leading bankers from around the world, and Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official, made the following statement:

"There is a single theme behind all of our work. We must reduce population growth. Either they do it our way, through nice, clean methods, or they will get the kind of a mess that we have in El Salvador, or Iran, or Beirut. Once population growth is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it. Civil war can help things, but it would have to be greatly expanded. To reduce population quickly, you have to pull all males into the fighting and kill significant numbers of fertile, child-bearing-age females."

The solution to the problem of a world in which the elite would not want to live is mass genocide. The Club of Rome (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_clubrome.htm) was ordered to produce a blueprint that would wipe out 500 million of excess population. The plan was called Global 2000 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#Global_2000_Program), and it was activated by spreading the AIDS virus throughout Africa and Brazil. Global 2000 was officially accepted as U.S. policy by President James Carter.

The conference members agreed that the, "low-class element of society must be brought under total control, trained and assigned to duties at an early age, which can be accomplished by the quality of education, which must be the poorest of the poor. The lower-classes must be trained to accept their position, long before they have an opportunity to query it."

"Technically, children must be 'orphaned' in day care centers under government control. With such an initial handicap, the lower-classes will have little hope of upward mobility away from their assigned positions in life. The form of slavery we have in mind is essential for good social order, peace and tranquility.

"We have the resources to attack the vitality, options and mobility of the individuals in society by knowing through our social scientist, understanding and manipulating and attacking their sources of social energy (income), and therefore, their physical, mental and emotional strengths and weaknesses. The general public refuses to improve its own mentality. It has become a herd of proliferating barbarians, and a blight on the face of the earth.

"By measuring the economic habits by which the sheep try to run from their problems and escape from reality via the medium of 'entertainment', it is absolutely possible, applying Operation Research methods, to predict the probable combination shocks (created events) which are necessary to bring about complete control and subjugation of the population by subverting the economy. The strategy includes the use of amplifiers (advertising), and when we speak on television in the manner that a ten year old can relate to, then because of the suggestions made, that person will purchase that production impulse, the next time he comes across it in a store.

"The balance of power will provide the stability that the world of the 21st century is likely to achieve, rent as it will be, by passionate tribalism and by such seemingly insoluble issues like that posed by mass migration from the South to the North, and from farm to city. There may be mass transfers of population, such as those between Greece and Turkey in the aftermath of the First World War; really mass murders. It will be a time of troubles, in need of a unifier; an Alexander or Mohammed.

"A great change that will come about as a result of emerging conflicts between peoples who live side by side — and which will, by their intensity, take primacy over their other conflicts — is that political rivalry will be within regions, rather than between them. This will bring about a turning back from global politics. After a decade in which the U.S. and the Soviet Union dueled across oceans, the powers will focus on protecting themselves against forces on their frontiers — or within them.

"The American people do not know economic science and care little about it, hence, they are always ripe for war. They cannot avoid war, notwithstanding their religious morality, nor can they find in religion the solution to their earthly problems. They are knocked out of shape by economic experts who cause Shockwaves that wreck budgets and buying habits. The American public is yet to realize that we control their buying habits."

There we have it. Split up nations into tribal factions, keep the populace struggling to make a living and concerned with regional conflicts so that they will never have an opportunity to get a clear view of what is going on, let alone challenge it, and at the same time, bring about a drastic lowering of the world's population.


Excerpt from Dr. John Coleman's "Diplomacy By Deception (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/diplomacy_deception/diplomacy_deception.htm) -- 6) Tavistock and 'Operation Research'"

[SnowyOwl]

Please cf to http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53262-Boomerang-Khan-Guru-in-plain-Sight-Words-are-like-Perfumes-that-we-breath

Boomerang Teaching in plain site.

After 3 days of respecfull silence for all nears ones affected by this abobinous act, and 5 meditations, despite my desires, got to act accordingly as express in the link I have provide.

When will they ever learn,,, when will they ever learn

Snowy

[Carmody]

Since then, the games have gotten conversely easier and harder. Easier, in that now you can win...you level up and the games generally have story-lines and ends. Harder, in that, the controller for playing has so many buttons and toggles that it is a spatial endeavor just to learn how to use them. And then, when you learn how, you then have to learn how to manipulate your character on screen, effectively learning 3-Dimensional Consciousness Displacement in order to locate yourself within the game and move within the construct of the game in a normal and effective manner. This is no easy task. Having friends who play, a few years ago I took the time to learn how to play one of the shoot-em-ups. It took me, literally, days, and the difficulty was not learning the pad, but in the spatial orientation aspect.

I continue along this point in this thread specifically to address the points you and others made about how the games can be comforting for people who are anti-social and who have difficulty with emoting for whatever reason. Once you learn to play these games, can manipulate the controller pad at an unconscious level so that when you are in the game you are effectively IN the game, the game becomes real to the mind in every way. There is solid research showing that the mind does not differentiate between what the eyes and senses experience and what we imagine. In the context of video games, what that means is that they are as real as the real world. Now that you can interact online and play them with others, this is even moreso the case.



The psychological and social aspects of mental illness when combined with gaming are daunting and real and play a large part in violence in general in our society as well as the particular form of violence we have most recently been privy too. With all of that said, I add the caveat of this being a potential false flag, which speaks to the question of whether or not the young man currently being blamed for the crime actually did it, but even if he did not and it was a team of some sort, sent for whatever nefarious reason, you can be certain that those who carried out these horrendous acts have spent quite a bit of time at some point in their lives in front of a screen, with a controller in their hands, lost in dark fantasies of blood and pain.

I just spent a few days 'training' my vision to play a few modern games, with 3D capacity.

The body does indeed become quite immersed. The body and eye-brain combination does indeed learn how to navigate this hardware and software. I mostly played a 'driving' game, as I love driving. I did try out one of the more violent games in 3D mode, just to see how it feels, regarding 3d Immersion. These things are called 'immersion technologies'.

The young male does indeed 'crave action', and these games deliver. It gives a feeling of having done something, having completed a task, of a sort, that agrees with the internal aspects of desire, drive, hormones, and so on that surge through the young male. Thus, a dependence is borne out of the feelings it brings, it's own form of empty satisfaction. The issue is of a vigorous task completed, as opposed to long term goals. the feeling associated with the 'completion' of various tasks and scenarios that the '3D' immersion makes even more powerful.

To top it off, the 3D immersion alternates a flashing of each eye, at 60hz, per eye, in opposing fashion (120hz total). One eye, then the other. Thus it 'splits' the vision, like a form of a mind splitting hypnotic, one might say.

It becomes so strong in such a short period of time..that yesterday, I was looking at a normal background on a computer monitor,and my mind tried to interpret it with depth. depth that it did not have, all due to subtle aspects of contrast and color that happens to be in the image. The mind entrainment and viewing experience had creeped in and been wired in to that level, that fast.

[Cidersomerset]

Were these disasters timed as part of a bigger psyops to tie in with this ??

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...994#post600994



xDAlXr9R-a8
In the interview it states Boal & Bigelow planned the project six years ago !

This was obviously part of a 'mind control' psyop to be rolled out when
it was finally time for TPTB to officially kill off their Hollywood villain
Obama.......Boal was fed from official sources !!


At the end the real Heroes have to stay anonomous.......Convenient !

Most of seal team six died in a helicoptor crash.............Convenient !

No Sailor on the ship saw Osamas body.......................Convenient !

That was conveniently sent to 'Davy Jones' Locker........Convenient !

Come on Mainstream " This Stinks" !!!

[Cidersomerset]

Superb exposure of the Columbine official story (lies): If you believe that what happened at Sandy Hook is what the authorities are telling you - watch this

Tuesday, 18 December 2012 10:54

By David Icke


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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/77002-superb-exposure-of-the-columbine-official-story-lies-if-you-believe-that-what-happened-at-sandy-hook-is-what-the-authorities-are-telling-you-watch-this

[SilentFeathers]

They are really targeting many with this event;

1. ALL gun owners. (even "law abiding" responsible gun owners)
2. Preppers and Survivalists. (labeling them as paranoid and nut-jobs)
3. ANYONE with a "potential" mental disorder. (which makes society as a whole basically "unfit")
4. ANYONE who speaks "misinformation". (specifically social media and alternative news).
5. etc etc etc., pretty much the general population as a whole.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Since then, the games have gotten conversely easier and harder. Easier, in that now you can win...you level up and the games generally have story-lines and ends. Harder, in that, the controller for playing has so many buttons and toggles that it is a spatial endeavor just to learn how to use them. And then, when you learn how, you then have to learn how to manipulate your character on screen, effectively learning 3-Dimensional Consciousness Displacement in order to locate yourself within the game and move within the construct of the game in a normal and effective manner. This is no easy task. Having friends who play, a few years ago I took the time to learn how to play one of the shoot-em-ups. It took me, literally, days, and the difficulty was not learning the pad, but in the spatial orientation aspect.

I continue along this point in this thread specifically to address the points you and others made about how the games can be comforting for people who are anti-social and who have difficulty with emoting for whatever reason. Once you learn to play these games, can manipulate the controller pad at an unconscious level so that when you are in the game you are effectively IN the game, the game becomes real to the mind in every way. There is solid research showing that the mind does not differentiate between what the eyes and senses experience and what we imagine. In the context of video games, what that means is that they are as real as the real world. Now that you can interact online and play them with others, this is even moreso the case.



The psychological and social aspects of mental illness when combined with gaming are daunting and real and play a large part in violence in general in our society as well as the particular form of violence we have most recently been privy too. With all of that said, I add the caveat of this being a potential false flag, which speaks to the question of whether or not the young man currently being blamed for the crime actually did it, but even if he did not and it was a team of some sort, sent for whatever nefarious reason, you can be certain that those who carried out these horrendous acts have spent quite a bit of time at some point in their lives in front of a screen, with a controller in their hands, lost in dark fantasies of blood and pain.

I just spent a few days 'training' my vision to play a few modern games, with 3D capacity.

The body does indeed become quite immersed. The body and eye-brain combination does indeed learn how to navigate this hardware and software. I mostly played a 'driving' game, as I love driving. I did try out one of the more violent games in 3D mode, just to see how it feels, regarding 3d Immersion. These things are called 'immersion technologies'.

The young male does indeed 'crave action', and these games deliver. It gives a feeling of having done something, having completed a task, of a sort, that agrees with the internal aspects of desire, drive, hormones, and so on that surge through the young male. Thus, a dependence is borne out of the feelings it brings, it's own form of empty satisfaction. The issue is of a vigorous task completed, as opposed to long term goals. the feeling associated with the 'completion' of various tasks and scenarios that the '3D' immersion makes even more powerful.

To top it off, the 3D immersion alternates a flashing of each eye, at 60hz, per eye, in opposing fashion (120hz total). One eye, then the other. Thus it 'splits' the vision, like a form of a mind splitting hypnotic, one might say.

It becomes so strong in such a short period of time..that yesterday, I was looking at a normal background on a computer monitor,and my mind tried to interpret it with depth. depth that it did not have, all due to subtle aspects of contrast and color that happens to be in the image. The mind entrainment and viewing experience had creeped in and been wired in to that level, that fast.

doesn't sound like the NeuroSky, it doesn't use eye cover, it is directly linked to the brain...

for future reference, which unit did you use?


I went back and changed the first post, to remind everyone what this tragedy is all about, families were destroyed over this, the whole community crushed...

and this was all just to send a message to the 2nd largest gun lobby...

[Rocky_Shorz]

The chair of Cerberus' global investment fund, owner of BushMaster is former US vice-president, Dan Quayle...

why does it have to have Bush Master for a name...

don't we already have enough to be pissed about with Bushes


2012 the year of Sandy, Bush and Koch...


not sure which we should fear most...

[Heather2017]

...I went back and changed the first post, to remind everyone what this tragedy is all about, families were destroyed over this, the whole community crushed...

and this was all just to send a message to the 2nd largest gun lobby...

It was a lot more than that, Rocky. As usual, multiple targets on multiple levels. This was a ritual sacrifice and an attempt to bind souls. I'm grateful there are those who can override some of the harm intended.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I know they have targeted anger knowing there are many that could tear the world down the middle today, but they didn't get the response they wanted...

we have continued moving forward and up...

we've cut the rope and our balloons are rising...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.

Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask?

There are many reasons, some of which have to do with competing entities in a competitive market.

The main cited reason for the rejection was that it caused severe heart problems in enough patients to cause a stir.

Maybe more importantly, though, Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior.

In fact, Fanapt was dropped by its first producer, picked up by another, initially rejected by the FDA, then later picked up and mass produced. The adverse side-effect is said to be "infrequent," but still it exists, and can't be ignored.

The reaction invoked by the drug in some people is reminiscent of the Jeffrey R. MacDonald case, where a Green Beret slaughtered his entire family and then fabricated a story about a marauding troop of "hopped up hippies".

MacDonald though, had Eskatrol in his system, a weight-loss amphetamine that's since been banned in part for its side effects of psychotic behavior and aggression.

These drugs are not the only ones that can cause the opposite of their desired effect. Several anti-depressant medications are also restricted to adults, for the depression they inspire in kids rather than eliminate.

link (http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12#ixzz2FRmIpz9E)

iloperidone was the original name...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Spoiler alert, if you have a soft heart, get a Kleenex Handy...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-Z-ZubCcAAJ0bJ.jpg:large

[161803398]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/

"Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a “murder suicide.” Was “lone gunman” Adam Lanza a “patsy,” the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being “silenced” in November 1963?

Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a “lone gunman” who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children. It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the “lone gunman” story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.”

After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

One three star general is quoted as saying, “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.” "

[eaglespirit]

We are putting an END...to the malicious, maniacal 'ripping out of hearts' !!!

They WILL be exposed with no where to hide!

Make them squirm with Our Endless Love!!!

[ThePythonicCow]

“Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”
Awesome !

[Vitalux]

It is amazing that such an event inside the continental united states can gain so much sympathy, when there is less than 30 children dead. How many children have died in Irag, and Afghanistan. Some say the toll is in the hundreds of thousands.

While in contrast over in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as a multitude of other nations being bombed by United States Bombs, does not evoke the same attention and outcry from the people within the USA.


Those mothers and fathers over there cry for their children as well.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/373718_227788053967904_925039404_n.jpg



Funny how human nature and behavior is.

My heart goes out too all people that are hurt in aggression.
But my heart goes out most to those innocent children that are killed by United States Bombs and bullets.

http://images.instagram.com/profiles/profile_19361437_75sq_1353603917.jpg


Lets not forget :sad:

[sdv]

Vitalux, I am so moved by your post.

If we take up guns (and other weapons), which are instruments of coercion and destruction, then we choose to live by coercion and destruction.

I find this bizarre dissonance between the rhetoric of freedom and the act of taking up arms, which are (sorry for repeating myself) instruments of coercion and destruction. Think Feel, Speak, Act are not aligned and we do not think 'this is wrong', we do not feel 'this is wrong', we distract ourselves instead of saying 'this is wrong' and we choose not to act against the wrong.

The children and teachers brutally murdered at Sandy Hook are also victims of war, but I am saddened by the realisation that even when we suffer the consequences in our backyard, our hearts and minds do not change.

Imagine if we lived in a world where we pelted each other with flowers when we felt angry and aggressive!

[Rocky_Shorz]

hey, our Buddy Sorcha just slipped further info...


Adam Lanza [photo 2nd left], believed responsible for the horrific massacre of 20 children and 6 adults yesterday was the son of one of the Central Intelligence Agencies (CIA) top psychological analysts who was assigned to a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project which developed the sub-hunting simulator video game Dangerous Waters.

According to FSB analysts in this memorandum, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook primary education school in the Connecticut County of Fairfield, known as the “hedge fund ghetto” due to its being one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, where he killed school officials and an entire class of children Russian intelligence experts believe were a part of a DARPA “experiment” being oversaw by his mother Nancy Champion Lanza...


In early 2009, this report continues, Nancy Champion Lanza relocated to Connecticut as the DARPA projects she was assigned to have their headquarters at the US Naval Submarine Base New London in Groton.

Important to note is that the FSB received an extensive file on CIA and DARPA video game projects from Iranian intelligence officials after the August, 2011 arrest of CIA agent Amir Mirza Hekmati.

In a video confession to Iranian intelligence officials, Amir Mirzaei Hekmati, a former US Marine of Iranian descent, confessed to a career in American intelligence that included a stint at a video game company in New York that he said was “a cover for the CIA.”...


Perhaps most shocking in this report are FSB analysts stating that this latest massacre “could very well have been” a “retaliation” after the failed mass shooting in Portland, Oregon earlier in the week, and as we reported on in our report titled “US Military Sniper Stops Portland Mall Massacre”....


link (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1638.htm)

[TargeT]

Vitalux, I am so moved by your post.

If we take up guns (and other weapons), which are instruments of coercion and destruction, then we choose to live by coercion and destruction.

I find this bizarre dissonance between the rhetoric of freedom and the act of taking up arms, which are (sorry for repeating myself) instruments of coercion and destruction. Think Feel, Speak, Act are not aligned and we do not think 'this is wrong', we do not feel 'this is wrong', we distract ourselves instead of saying 'this is wrong' and we choose not to act against the wrong.

The children and teachers brutally murdered at Sandy Hook are also victims of war, but I am saddened by the realisation that even when we suffer the consequences in our backyard, our hearts and minds do not change.

Imagine if we lived in a world where we pelted each other with flowers when we felt angry and aggressive!

Language so far has proven to be a FAR greater tool of coercion and destruction, and yet you wield it readily.

Imagine if we lived in a world where we did not try to impress our ideas upon others with words & the language of law (which uses words as ammunition) & instead pelted each other with smiles and good intentions.

since that isn't currently possible, since dangers still exist; I'll keep my words and my defensive measures, until they are no longer needed.

[Flash]

It is amazing that such an event inside the continental united states can gain so much sympathy, when there is less than 30 children dead. How many children have died in Irag, and Afghanistan. Some say the toll is in the hundreds of thousands.

While in contrast over in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as a multitude of other nations being bombed by United States Bombs, does not evoke the same attention and outcry from the people within the USA.


Those mothers and fathers over there cry for their children as well.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/373718_227788053967904_925039404_n.jpg



Funny how human nature and behavior is.

My heart goes out too all people that are hurt in aggression.
But my heart goes out most to those innocent children that are killed by United States Bombs and bullets.

http://images.instagram.com/profiles/profile_19361437_75sq_1353603917.jpg


Lets not forget :sad:

May be everytimes there is a children massacre in Pakistan or Irak or Afghanistan or Lybia or Syria or..... may be we should give the massacre the name of an American town. For example, instead of 30 children dead in Islamabad, we would say 30 children dead in Islamabad, Middlesex VT. The message to stop wars would be stronger. Consciousness may show its head.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so taking what Sorcha shared, is it possible this school was being used as a DARPA project?

the young children being tested for the program?

Had Adam been through it, and wanted to expose it to the world?

Killing his Mom who ran the program, then the kids and himself?

how many years of students went through this?

mind control video games and CIA / military Psy-ops in every shooting recently...

[Flash]

so taking what Sorcha shared, is it possible this school was being used as a DARPA project?

the young children being tested for the program?

Had Adam been through it, and wanted to expose it to the world?

Killing his Mom who ran the program, then the kids and himself?

how many years of students went through this?

mind control video games and CIA / military Psy-ops in every shooting recently...

Rocky, bring me some meat over this, otherwise this is pure fantasy. Do you have a more elaborate thinking beneath these statements? if so, please describe. At least tell me you have channelled this. This is a whole story that may very well be used to discredit any other grounded research otherwise.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well what he has done is point out facilities and bases in the area and where research is being done, which is confirmed...

a lead to follow on video games...

a father in CIA? that worked at GE and now an auditing firm?

that is one big stumble...

he is an ex disgruntled employee, who says he isn't whistle-blowing during these agency wars...

we are sleuths and follow insights...

something is ringing true in what was shared here, and yet, all insights are fantasy, so why are so many right...

think of it this way, if you want things to change you start pulling back the veils in public...

the more it is talked about fact or fiction keeps it on the path to change...

but then again, maybe Sorcha is working for Israel against Zionists and trying to keep the eyes off them... naaaa

[we-R-one]

It is amazing that such an event inside the continental united states can gain so much sympathy, when there is less than 30 children dead. How many children have died in Irag, and Afghanistan. Some say the toll is in the hundreds of thousands.

While in contrast over in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as a multitude of other nations being bombed by United States Bombs, does not evoke the same attention and outcry from the people within the USA.


Those mothers and fathers over there cry for their children as well.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/373718_227788053967904_925039404_n.jpg



Funny how human nature and behavior is.

My heart goes out too all people that are hurt in aggression.
But my heart goes out most to those innocent children that are killed by United States Bombs and bullets.

http://images.instagram.com/profiles/profile_19361437_75sq_1353603917.jpg


Lets not forget :sad:


What you might be missing...this isn't about kids getting killed, this is about gun control. They're coming after our 2ND amendment rights here in the states and that's why this is getting so much press. The shootings will most likely continue as they drive the point home that our "right to bear arms" is no longer needed.



On a different note to everyone else since there are so many hits on this thread, are you still watching the event unfold on TV? You might be under mind control.

http://www.infowars.com/how-the-newtown-massacre-became-a-mind-control-television-event/
"They do this every time one of these events occurs, and so the audience expects it and soaks it in and, in that state of entrainment and hypnosis, the audience doesn’t want anything else…because anything else would BREAK THE FLOW and the spell, and the grief would no longer have the same impact."


did you get that? so....."the grief would no longer have the same impact"


EDIT TO ADD:

Ask yourself why they wouldn't want "the grief to no longer have the same impact"? If you don't understand please see "The Solution" thread below.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52810-The-Solution-Is-In-Full-Swing-Are-You-On-Board

[Vitalux]

What you might be missing...this isn't about kids getting killed, this is about gun control.

thanks and I agree and see that it is about gun control

It would be really something if enough people could awaken.
Perhaps the solution could be just as easy as everyone handing in their membership card for citizenship and resigning as an employee of the Corporation USA.

After all, once all the employees quit, the game, the monopoly is over.

http://android-game.net/img.php?sizfo=4&tble=article_photos&id=1979


I no longer wish to play this game anymore. I want off this ship.
I am going to renounce my Canadian Citizenship, and just be a human being living on the land of North America.
I never wanted to work on a ship and have less rights than a human being.
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDjwU9__jfiIdVd&w=155&h=114&url=https://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs143/1102524771325/img/267.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

What you might be missing...this isn't about kids getting killed, this is about gun control.

thanks and I agree and see that it is about gun control

It would be really something if enough people could awaken.
Perhaps the solution could be just as easy as everyone handing in their membership card for citizenship and resigning as an employee of the Corporation USA.

After all, once all the employees quit, the game, the monopoly is over.

http://android-game.net/img.php?sizfo=4&tble=article_photos&id=1979


I no longer wish to play this game anymore. I want off this ship.
I am going to renounce my Canadian Citizenship, and just be a human being living on the land of North America.
I never wanted to work on a ship and have less rights than a human being.
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDjwU9__jfiIdVd&w=155&h=114&url=https://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs143/1102524771325/img/267.jpg

why would you renounce a country that believes in One Nation under Frogs? oops, I mean Royals... ;)

[Flash]

What you might be missing...this isn't about kids getting killed, this is about gun control.

thanks and I agree and see that it is about gun control

It would be really something if enough people could awaken.
Perhaps the solution could be just as easy as everyone handing in their membership card for citizenship and resigning as an employee of the Corporation USA.

After all, once all the employees quit, the game, the monopoly is over.

http://android-game.net/img.php?sizfo=4&tble=article_photos&id=1979


I no longer wish to play this game anymore. I want off this ship.
I am going to renounce my Canadian Citizenship, and just be a human being living on the land of North America.
I never wanted to work on a ship and have less rights than a human being.
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDjwU9__jfiIdVd&w=155&h=114&url=https://origin.ih.constantcontact.com/fs143/1102524771325/img/267.jpg

why would you renounce a country that believes in One Nation under Frogs? oops, I mean Royals... ;)

quite a few French Canadian here, be careful about what you write!!! If not, I'll get my gun to get you yankee.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the French helped Washington beat the Brits...

not sure how they ended up under them in Canada... ;)


Consolation Prize?



chuckles and ducks as the Boot whizzes over my head...

[Flash]

the French helped Washington beat the Brits...

not sure how they ended up under them in Canada... ;)


Consolation Prize?



chuckles and ducks as the Boot whizzes over my head...

Anyhow, we are off thread. The king of France decided not to send us much help, being scare of losing its head in their revolution I bet (no, not the right dates). So we lost a short war in Quebec City, then we lost the psychic war thanks to the catholic church who agreed with the brits to keep us under.

Back to the thread, I did see a few French Canadian origins in some of the families names of the children.

[Rocky_Shorz]

what psychic war?

what is going on now is a massive psychic war, going for mind control through media, video games, music, smart phones and computers... the goal to divide everyone in half and get them fighting...


psychological wars are religious tools, leaders who can condemn anyone, very dangerous to fight...

even tougher to uncover...

[ThePythonicCow]

There is a list floating around the Internet of "descrepencies regarding lone gunman theory". One variation of that list was just posted above on this thread. There is already a separate thread discussing that list, so I moved the that post to that thread, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=602315&viewfull=1#post602315).

[161803398]

hmmmmmm "..... the Long Count Calendar predates the Mayans, and originates with the Olmec of ancient Mexico, the predecessors of the Mayans. The chief characteristic of the Olmec religion was a death cult centered on the sacrifice of children....What we have on December 21, 2012 is strange brew: 1. Enormous anxiety and fear for the past twelve months over what Dec. 21, 2012 would bring or portend. 2. The one-week anniversary of one of the most spectacular and depraved mass murders of children in American history, coinciding with a prophecy put into motion more than 2,000 years ago by a state religion dedicated to child sacrifice"

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.ca/2012/12/mayan-day-of-doom-and-newtown-massacre.html

............

"Children killed by coalition forces: Of the 4,040 civilian victims of US-led coalition forces for whom age data was available, 1,201 (29%) were children."

"Children killed: Of the 45,779 victims for whom IBC was able to obtain age data, 3,911 (8.54%) were children under age 18."

"The total number of violent civilian deaths recorded since the 2003 invasion has now exceeded 114,000."

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

[sigma6]

...or more simply, either that or another pornography ring and graft network that was either going to be exposed or taken down...

if Fulford is right, they are tearing down the Bush Nazi Crime Syndicate, which would definitely include the Child Porn Trafficking Network with his name on it...

Almost makes you wish we could go back to the gangsters of the 30's when a Gangwar was simply a gang war... without all this fluff and media mind control sh** filtering going on...

[sigma6]

There is a list floating around the Internet of "descrepencies regarding lone gunman theory". One variation of that list was just posted above on this thread. There is already a separate thread discussing that list, so I moved the that post to that thread, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=602315&viewfull=1#post602315).

I think people are finally realizing the truth...

"lone gunmen" = "mk ultra orchestrated black government (crime syndicate) hit"

it's getting pretty straight forward these days, if these 'factions' think they can hide an 18 wheeler truckload of horse sh** under a Dec 21, 2012 'full moon effect'... they are sadly mistaken... this is only going to wake up more people imo

[161803398]

Shooter disguised as a nun: http://theintelhub.com/2012/12/23/newtown-police-two-occupants-with-ski-masks-one-may-be-wearing-a-nun-outfit/

[astrid]

67J2jBBQSKA

Scanner recording from above link.
This will surely get removed

[norman]

67J2jBBQSKA

Scanner recording from above link.
This will surely get removed


If it does vanish, here's a backup ( audio only):

https://www.box.com/files/0/f/437261023/1/f_5288574624

[161803398]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

[ThePythonicCow]

What you might be missing...this isn't about kids getting killed, this is about gun control. They're coming after our 2ND amendment rights here in the states and that's why this is getting so much press. The shootings will most likely continue as they drive the point home that our "right to bear arms" is no longer needed.

There's an excellent article at Why Ex-Feds and Wall Street Execs Are Going Into Hiding (http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/12/27/why-ex-feds-and-wall-street-execs-are-going-into-hiding/) that reaffirms what you're saying -- they are after the guns in the hands of ordinary Americans, and they aren't done playing as dirty as they need to, in order to accomplish that.

[jackovesk]

Not sure if this has been posted yet..?

KIDNAPPINGS AT SANDY HOOK?

There is a theory that the Sandy Hook children were 'kidnapped'.

'Photos of the no doubt incredibly bloody crime scene' are missing

On 25 December 2012, at Global Research, Prof. James F. Tracy wrote:

The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information
According to the professor:

1. The only people who claim to have seen any dead bodies are medical examiner H. Wayne Carver and his staff.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9JZSSfDA264/UNtagvj81AI/AAAAAAAAre8/0nxUAsO6-sA/s320/Emilie+Parker+2.png

2. There is no visual evidence of the shooter's alleged violent entry into the school.

There is no evidence of the crime scene's aftermath.

No eyewitness, photo or video evidence of broken glass.

No evidence of blasted security locks and doors, bullet casings and holes.

No evidence of bloodied walls and floors.

All of these are common in such investigations and reporting.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hF_KVEjm9dQ/UNojtSOLXYI/AAAAAAAArbQ/htRr0XoWG54/s1600/madeleine.jpg

3. Why Were Medical Personnel Turned Away From the Crime Scene?

Medical personnel were forced to set up their operation not at the school, but at the fire station.

Medical responders who rushed to Sandy Hill Elementary were denied entry to the school.

"You may not be able to save everybody, but you damn well try," emergency medical technician James Wolff told NBC News. "And when (we) didn't have the opportunity to put our skills into action, it’s difficult."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ow8_DF8AwZ4/UNohZiB7ooI/AAAAAAAAraw/LGf39zVS1gc/s320/Sandy+Hook+12+November.JPG+2.jpg

Sandy Hook. Assistant police chief in Stamford receives counter-terrorism training from the ADL.

4. Did a mass evacuation of the school take place?

There is no photographic or video evidence of an evacuation of the 600 children.

Limited video and photographic imagery shows at most several dozen students leaving the school.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-STvvNrG5rvY/UNod2Ab0akI/AAAAAAAArag/E_wt-_sMXoA/s1600/McMartin.jpg

What Really Happened too All those Children..? (http://http://aangirfan.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/what-really-happened-to-all-those.html)

5. The Police assigned officers to each of the 26 families who suffered loss.

The families have been effectively gagged.

6. We witnessed the "unusual and apparently contrived appearance" by Emilie Parker's "alleged father".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cKWgCRBR5qE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cKWgCRBR5qE

7. Early on, journalists reported that Ryan Lanza was the gunman, and that pistols were used in the shooting.

8. "One is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place - at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation's news media have described."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-im9aBenvAUg/UNohtuoxBYI/AAAAAAAAra4/_esjh26ee4c/s200/Sandy+Hook+12+November.JPG
Sandy Hook

9. Initial press accounts suggest that no school personnel or students heard definite 'gunshots'.

This contrasts with the updated version where:

The masked shooter, unseen by anyone in the car park, walked up to the front entrance and fired at least a half dozen rounds into the glass doors.

"The thunderous sound" alerted Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach.

The two of them mysteriously ran towards the gunman, and were killed.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fUUR1HbWIvY/UNtcn_X22nI/AAAAAAAArfQ/69AR8o9nn44/s1600/emiliesign.jpg
Emilie Parker

Breaching the school's security system in such a way should have likely triggered some automatic alert.

Two staff members saw the shooter just after he had entered and called the emergency number 911.

This contrasts with earlier reports that the first 911 call reported that students "were trapped in a classroom" with someone who had two guns.

Recordings of the first police dispatch following the 911 call at 9:35:50 indicate that someone "thinks there’s someone shooting in the building."

Nothing about being almost mortally caught in a "hail of bullets."

10. How did the gunman fire so many shots in such little time?

According to Dr. Carver and State Police, the shooter must have been averaging about one shot per second - extremely skilled use of a single firearm for a young man with absolutely no military training.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JV3KYBS64R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JV3KYBS64R8

11. We witnessed "the wholly bizarre" and "amateurish" and "out of character" performance of Connecticut’s top medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II at a December 15 press conference.

"The H. Wayne Carver who showed up to the December 15 press conference is an almost entirely different man, appearing apprehensive and uncertain, as if he is at a significant remove from the postmortem operation he had overseen.

"The multiple gaffes, discrepancies, and hedges in response to reporters' astute questions suggest that he is either under coercion or an imposter.

"While the latter sounds untenable it would go a long way in explaining his sub-pedestrian grasp of medical procedures and terminology.

Excerpts:

Reporter: So the rifle was the primary weapon?

H. Wayne Carver: Yes.

Reporter: But the long rifle was discovered in the car...

Carver: The bullets are designed in such a fashion that ... the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays in (the tissue).

(In fact, the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets averaging 3,000 feet-per-second, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.)

Reporter: Do you know the difference of the time of death between the mother in the house and the bodies recovered (in the school).

Carver: Uh, no, I don’t. Sorry [shakes head excitedly] I don’t! [embarrassed laugh]

Reporter: Did the gunman kill himself with the rifle?

Carver: No. I - I don’t know yet. I’ll - I’ll examine him tomorrow morning. But, but I don’t think so.

(Why has Carver left arguably the most important specimen for last? And why doesn't he think Lanza didn't commit suicide with the rifle?)

Reporter: In terms of the children, were they all found in one classroom or -

Carver: Uhm … (Turns to Lieutenant Vance) Paul and company will deal with that.

Reporter: Were (the students) sitting at their desks or were they running away when this happened?

Carver: I’ll let the guys who - the scene guys talk - address that issue. I, uh, obviously I was at the scene. Obviously I’m very experienced in that. But there are people who are, uh, the number one professionals in that. I’ll let them - let that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-v-s8Kj4jmY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-v-s8Kj4jmY

Notes

[1] State of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, ”State Police Investigate Newtown School Shooting” [Press Release] December 15, 2012.

[2] State of Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, “Update: Newtown School Shooting” [Press Release], December 19, 2012.

[3] CNN, “Family of 6 Year Old Victim,” December 14, 2012, “Sandy Hook School Shooting Hoax Fraud,” Youtube, December 17, 2012.

[4] Hartford Courant, “Finally ‘Enough’ For Chief Medical Examiner” [Editorial], January 30, 2012.

[5] John Christofferson and Jocelyn Noveck, “Sandy Hook School Shooting: Adam Lanza Kills 26 and Himself at Connecticut School,” Huffington Post, December 15, 2012.

[6] Edmund H. Mahoney, Dave Altmari, and Jon Lender, “Sandy Hook Shooter’s Pause May Have Aided Escape,” Hartford Courant, December 23, 2012.

[7] Jaweed Kaleem, “Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting: Newtown Connecticut Students, Administrators Among Victims, Reports Say,” Huffington Post, December 14, 2012.

[8] RadioMan911TV, “Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Newtown Police / Fire and CT State Police,” Youtube, December 14, 2012. At several points in this recording audio is scrambled, particularly following apprehension of a second shooting suspect outside the school, suggesting a purposeful attempt to withhold vital information.

[9] Miranda Leitsinger, “You Feel Helpless: First Responders Rushed to School After Shooting, Only to Wait,” US News on NBC, December 20.

[10] http://thenetng.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-600×400.jpg

[11] Rob Dew, “Evidence of 2nd and 3rd Shooter at Sandy Hook,” Infowars Nightly News, December 18, 2012, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nCFHImNeRw. A more detailed yet less polished analysis was developed by citizen journalist Idahopicker, “Sandy Hook Elem: 3 Shooters,” December 16, 2012. See also James F. Tracy, “Analyzing the Newtown Narrative: Sandy Hook’s Disappearing Shooter Suspects,” Memoryholeblog.com, December 20, 2012.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/kidnappings-at-sandy-hook.html

[norman]

67J2jBBQSKA

Scanner recording from above link.
This will surely get removed

It's vanished.



AND SO HAS MY BACKUP FILE !


Here's another location:

https://www.box.com/embed/of0ie402s7d354r.swf"


oh maaaan, they really have unleashed an army of butt covering hitmen.

[astrid]

far out, can this thing get any fishier??

[astrid]

OK ... here... S59IXI9g6VE

more here .... http://forums.radioreference.com/community-announcements-news/255408-live-audio-archives-newtown-ct-school-shooting-incident.html

Not sure if this is the full 2 hours though.


Ok here..

http://sheilaaliens.net/SandyHook/

but be quick

[astrid]

Found this to add to the mix..

http://news.yahoo.com/claim-seeks-100-million-child-survivor-connecticut-school-003646074.html

"A $100 million claim on behalf of a 6-year-old survivor is the first legal action to come out of the Connecticut school shooting that left 26 children and adults dead two weeks ago.

The unidentified client, referred to as Jill Doe, heard "cursing, screaming, and shooting" over the school intercom when the gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza,
opened fire, according to the claim filed by New Haven-based attorney Irv Pinsky.

"As a consequence, the ... child has sustained emotional and psychological trauma and injury, the nature and extent of which are yet to be determined,"
the claim said."

[astrid]

wow, check this out..

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[Referee]

More questions no real awswers. A good piece of news on Sandy Hook

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[161803398]

http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/21414148-baby-you-can-drive-my-car

"The notorious car photographed leaving the scene of the Sandy Hook school shooting does NOT belong to Adam Lanza or his mother. HUH? That's right. The audio from the police radio contains the vehicle registration request and reply. The car is registered to Christopher Rodia on charge for larceny and narcotics."

[Rocky_Shorz]

""The thunderous sound" alerted Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach.

The two of them mysteriously ran towards the gunman, and were killed. "

so, the Principal heard shooting and ran towards the gun shots...

so when dd she talk to the newspaper reporter?

who really was the reporter?

"Mind Control" Message delivered through a phone call?

a first responding police officer was shot, by who?

was he hiding behind the teacher's Honda riddled with bullets?

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/nk50d6c4e7.jpg

don't we normally hear from injured officers? why has it been hushed?

there will be no court case, so why are they worried about evidence?

unless someone else is involved...

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/21414148-baby-you-can-drive-my-car

"The notorious car photographed leaving the scene of the Sandy Hook school shooting does NOT belong to Adam Lanza or his mother. HUH? That's right. The audio from the police radio contains the vehicle registration request and reply. The car is registered to Christopher Rodia on charge for larceny and narcotics."

it gets better...


Mr. Rodia's accomplice Cassandra Scire is his neice. They live in the same home at 19 Vollmer Ave., Norwalk, CT. Cassandra is affiliated with one George Uzar arrested with an arsenal of weapons.

[RampartRanger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc&t=94m19s

"Possible [suspect] vehicle, a purple van two occupants with a possible ski mask that may be involved in this incident." Then about a minute later, "Also we're getting reports of one of them may be wearing a nun outfit."

Then we have the dude in the woods that the police apprehended and put in the front of a squad car . This is evidenced by this witness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovspEgeMXb4 and the emergency radio dialogue about a suspect in the woods and also links with reports from a teacher about two shadows near the back of the school also referenced in the radio chatter.

Why do I get the felling that the above COLD HARD, UNIGNORABLE EVIDENCE that something weird definitely may have happened will never be spoken of by the MSM and be completely missed by the public at large??? Nope, we won't even hear a dismissive "Those were unsubstantiated reports made during the initial panic that were followed up and found to be unrelated to the case" -type response from the authorities or the media who should be asking about the elephant in the room: "What ever came of the purple van with the men in ski masks and a nun outfit or of the suspect apprehended by police in the woods behind the school?" I can only assume these questions will forever remain unanswered seeing as any answers would likely blow the big whistle on this steaming pile of crap. For some reason, this evidence will be erased from history as if it never happened to begin with, relegated to YouTube videos and "crazy people" websites and ridiculed as coincidental, fabricated, and last-but-not-least not to be believed or even considered whatsoever.

No follow up, no resolution, no figuring out who these people are/were and what is happening or has happened to them...Complete darkness, never happened, already forgotten, LOST IN HISTORY.

[RampartRanger]

Oh and here's one more piece of the evidence that can't be denied that also points to the potential for accomplices/"handlers":
The student (or was there more than one?) who was interviewed saying that he saw police had a live suspect cuffed on the ground (somewhere). I can't find the video for this but I'm sure its in this thread somewhere and has been seen before by most of you following this case. Will we ever again hear about this guy cuffed on the ground? NOPE!

[Ron Mauer Sr]

While President Obama delivered his condolences he appeared to be tearing up...I wonder if it was out of guilt and remorse. Because now he can really see the true essense of power and how it grows like weeds and for the first time he was able to sympathize , he is after all a parent.

Does he shed tears for the dead children, victims of predator drones? How many children has the predator drone Commander In Chief killed or maimed in the last week? In the last month?

[RampartRanger]

“The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It's people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages” -Banksy

[Cidersomerset]

I just watched this on another thread, its MK Ultra technology and fits the bill how these shooters and the public are being
manipulated by micro wave technology......'Voice of God Weapons'.....

The programme is a bit long winded , but I reconise it from the MK Ultra
and microwave phone material i have come across..

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[161803398]

Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theories Debunked?
No.http://mileswmathis.com/sh3.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?CRMgnrlLiv8