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jagman
17th December 2012, 02:05
The President is on live tv right now. He announced he is coming for the guns. He couldnt just go to Newtown and be there for the families No he had to make it a political
issue. His old chief of staff would be proud Now Chicago Mayor Raham Emanuel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow&feature=player_detailpage

ghostrider
17th December 2012, 02:20
When will people wake up to the fact we don't need them to live our lives. Do you need a millionaire miles away to tell you how , where when and what you can and can't do, and they make rules over you and you have no say and you PAY FOR IT ... We must vote them out , change the system to a two year term limit for all in public office, and once you've served your out of public service no longer elligeble to hold any other office ... keeps a mayor from being governor, then senator, then president... and it breaks up the inner circles and dark deeds they make while holding public office for so long. We have twenty plus years of some politicians in public office, the founding fathers would be ashamed. The same ideas in government for twenty , thirty years, with NEW BLOOD every two years look at the NEW IDEAS that could be brought into the mix and the world could be changed for the better... Bush sr CIA director, then vice president, then president, his son governor, the president, thats twenty years with one family running intelligence and our nation, then Bill Clinton govenor, then president, then hillary senator, then sec of state, one family 16 yrs in control of key positions, together thats at least 40 yrs of history of our nation being controlled by two families ... TERM LIMITS...I think it's the first step to fixing our broken government, TERM LIMITS, keeps them honest and they must pic their spot carefully cause they are one and done ...

modwiz
17th December 2012, 02:48
I have not seen Obama cry, I have not followed this story. Everything I know about any of this came from this forum. Where science and spirituality meet. Even the Gordon Duff article had no real detail or discussion of what supposedly happened.

There was nice christmas music in the supermarket today. The old fashioned corny kind. The same stuff I have listened to for almost 6 decades now. Like real food, prepared the old fashioned way. Modern christmas songs are like fast food. :bad: Only John and Yoko ever came up with a modern song that actually made you feel that christmas was special and not some commercial endeavor.

I love this planet. The world kinda sucks though. The good news is we are finally hitting bottom. We are at the point where we either sober up or we drink ourselves to death. Little room for much else.

Vitalux
17th December 2012, 03:30
I love this planet. The world kinda sucks though. The good news is we are finally hitting bottom. We are at the point where we either sober up or we drink ourselves to death. Little room for much else.

It is quite painful for most American people as well us the rest of the slaves on Earth, to awaken with the realization that most of what we perceived as democracy, government, and self rule, was just as Santa Clause, Religion and the Easter Bunny.....just an illusion. :confused:

For those that set this system up...
.......it was like stealing candy from a baby.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2012/08/13/2018912236.jpg

The Arthen
17th December 2012, 06:30
Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's "Mentor Minister", has offered "condolences" to Obama.
More like a double-sided snub, anybody? :)

Kind of reminds me when Idi Amin created a Save The British fund to mock the British.

But what makes me feel good is that Lee Kuan Yew probably didn't receive any reply. Nobody gave a ****. Aaaaaaaahahahaha

ThePythonicCow
17th December 2012, 07:48
I have not seen Obama cry, I have not followed this story. Everything I know about any of this came from this forum. Where science and spirituality meet. Even the Gordon Duff article had no real detail or discussion of what supposedly happened.
Sabrina posted a link to one of the most informative articles I've seen yet. See her post at Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children... (Post #263) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=600307&viewfull=1#post600307).

Cidersomerset
17th December 2012, 10:47
The political saying 'Never let a serious crisis go to waste ' !

Its all part of the 'Dark art of Politics' ....Democratic or Despotic...

This is how governments or groups behind the scenes set or manipulate
agenda's.If things were going along nicely powerfull people would get
bored and have no 'fun' so to get their kicks its at the majorities expence !

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/December20129/6357_475723055802997_1319539254_n.png




History is full of it from the courts of Samaria, Babylon the city states
of Greece , Alexander , Carthage, Rome , The Bible stories ,Mayans
Incas, Aztecs, Toltex,Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Byzantines,Ottomans
and many more thru the mass killings of the 20th century industrial
warefare to the last current 'Empire' The corporate & military complex
of the USA.

Think of all the advisors, 'Think Tanks' annalysts employed to keep
the same 'old status Quo'...



I came across it while doing this thread....It shows you how these elites
keep ahead of the game think of Kissenger , Chenney, Rumsfedt and the likes!!

Whether Lord Mc Alpine was innocent or not ! He knew exactly how to silnce
the press & Media and scare web users as well. Watch this tactic used again
by politicians & governments!!



Re: How Jimmy was able to Fix it !!!



Lord Mc Alpine is a veteran of the political trenches of the Thatcher era....

A Goliath against David in the world of intrigue and smoke and mirrors !!



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lQLXTfgRgUw/UKoAjEI_WCI/AAAAAAAAIwI/1L3x3T8H63g/s1600/Snapshot+2012-11-19+08-52-45.tiff



http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/2010-02/thenewmachiavelli.jpg



The above was written in 1999...from McAlpine's book The New Machiavelli - The Art of Politics in Business




Lord McAlpine on How To Deal With The Media: “Another option is for the businessperson to learn the art of dealing with the media, using all the tricks that go with that trade – such as the false defeat: when a person seems to lose, in order to gain public sympathy, or the false triumph: where a person seems to win in order to appear strong – thus giving credibility to any number of dubious propositions that person may wish to make in the future. Neither of these ploys are examples of the use of true facts, rather of false facts given to the media to chew on, much as a dog chews on a bone. Another useful ploy is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are wrongly accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt. Those who have made accusations against both the company and its management become discredited. Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion. Always remember that people’s memories are very frail, remembering only both the high spots and the lows of a person’s career, and then seldom remembering accurately. People believe in the facts that it suits them to believe.”


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Machiavelli-...dp/0471350958/

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/1...feat-your.html

jagman
17th December 2012, 16:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=M1gSsm5xlKQ
I was forced to watch this because it interrupted sunday night football.9:00 minutes in is when it starts to get interesting.

jagman
17th December 2012, 17:04
I dont know if this has been posted before but Alex makes some good points.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2h1QNTQDnoU