Sandy Hook clearly seen on Gotham City Map...Dark Knight Rises

[Referee]

You couldn't make this up!! A much clearer image of the Map I posted in the origional CT shooting thread.

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[jagman]

Excellent find Referee. Imo, This has Illuminati written all over it.

[Flash]

You couldn't make this up!! A much clearer image of the Map I posted in the origional CT shooting thread.

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to all of us, copy the video now, another one similar has been removed by youtube

[Referee]

First amendment under attack!! Warning to Alternative media...

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[Referee]

Here is the rebuttle to you tube from the original uploader of the video removed from You Tube

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[ghostrider]

You couldn't make this up!! A much clearer image of the Map I posted in the origional CT shooting thread.

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to all of us, copy the video now, another one similar has been removed by youtube

Hurricane Sandy/hook NEWtown World Order out of chaos . sacrificing children. problem action solution. 20 dead in 2012. twenty members of the illuminate must have went through some ritual somewhere that night... this was an illuminate ritual for sure.

[shadowstalker]

So if any one did a personal interview (that was totally disregarded before) with a true witness and posted it anywhere on social media then I guess it is considered false?
Isn't that another convenience???
I am sorry but that's what this sounds like to me....:frusty:

[Maunagarjana]

Aurora and Sandy Hook in Batman movie

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/118648/WOW__SANDY_HOOK__AURORA_In_BATMAN_Movie__Make_Viral__This_is_a_SET_UP_/

[Wind]

Aurora and Sandy Hook in Batman movie

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/118648/WOW__SANDY_HOOK__AURORA_In_BATMAN_Movie__Make_Viral__This_is_a_SET_UP_/

That's hardly a coincidence.

[shadowstalker]

First amendment under attack!! Warning to Alternative media...

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Sounds like he learned a few things from President Bush, don't you think???

[ThePythonicCow]

to all of us, copy the video now, another one similar has been removed by youtube
I put a copy of this video on my website, as an MP4 video file:
http://thepythoniccow.us/Sandy_Hook_Hunger_Games_Gotham_City_School_Killing .mp4

[Debra]

to all of us, copy the video now, another one similar has been removed by youtube
I put a copy of this video on my website, as an MP4 video file:
http://thepythoniccow.us/Sandy_Hook_Hunger_Games_Gotham_City_School_Killing .mp4

Brilliant Paul. Shared already.

[Sirius White]

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[ThePythonicCow]

There are several more Youtube videos of various early reports of more guns, many shots, and such at Videos Contradicting Official Elementary School Massacre Story (beforeitsnews.com) (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/videos-contradicting-official-elementary-school-massacre-story-2515030.html).

[Debra]

Well, facebook in the last half hour disabled the link I posted to Paul's mp4 on the pythonic cow website. Reposted just this minute. Shall see what happens.

[Maunagarjana]

Large map of Gotham City from The Dark Knight Rises promotional material: http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

Well, facebook in the last half hour disabled the link I posted to Paul's mp4 on the pythonic cow website. Reposted just this minute. Shall see what happens.

Did Facebook give any excuse for disabling the link?

[Debra]

No, the link was just disabled. And I know it was working because I tested it first when I first posted.

[GoodETxSG]

If you do not mind I am linking this on my Facebook Site on Political and Financial Corruption. There are NO coincidences. Remember also the tie in's to the banking scandal on more than one shooting as well.

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Bank and Politician Financial Corruption: You may remember that this is not the first relative of a Bank/LIBOR witness has had a family member or been involved in a mass shooting. Strange I know, coincidence? Is there such a thing? http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify

[Akasha]

Come back Ed Chiarini, all is forgiven! (well...........maybe not quite all) :confused:

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Are we really going to say there were illuminati rituals etc and this links to a batman movie... are we really going to jump on this wagon?

While your jumping down this hole just don't get stuck... remember to take a flashlight with you.

[Debra]

Are we really going to say there were illuminati rituals etc and this links to a batman movie... are we really going to jump on this wagon?

While your jumping down this hole just don't get stuck... remember to take a flashlight with you.

Hi Positive Vibe Merchant,

What tabled in this thread thus far, seems unbelievable when physical evidence in train with these events continues? Yes, I agree, it is hard to believe but more so that there really are dis eased minds out there who plot and execute these monstrous rituals. The inconsistencies in this whole case reveal more - that we are indeed looking at an event that has been masterminded and not by just one, lone, and disturbed young man but by a swat team - to kill innocent children. All of these signs combine into an evil waltz. It is not just signs indexed through the Batman movie, either, we are now asked to look at the evidence seen through The Hunger Games. Now when that comparative analysis surfaced today in relation to Sandy Hook, that made my skin crawl. Up to this point, I have not been so tied to these ideas of illuminati plans signalled through movies, but in light of events this year ... the patterns are recurring and in plain sight. It has become too close for comfort.

[Cidersomerset]

Predictive Programming - Sandy Hook in Batman Dark Knight Movie

Monday, 17 December 2012 12:27
By David Icke


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There is some more info on link ,most has already been posted .


http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/76967-connecticut-school-shooting-adam-lanzas-mother-was-preparing-for-disaster

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Is it just coincidence or some kind of predictive mind control ??


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I did hear a theory back along on one of the many vids i have
seen/listened to in the last few years.That said something to
the effect TPTB had to show their plans in public, before
doing them. Obviously we would not pick up on it untill after
it had happened. Anyone else remember hearing that ??

[Referee]

It sounds like the Idahopicker YT may have been threatened. Here is a video from today.

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[Cidersomerset]

It sounds like the Idahopicker YT may have been threatened. Here is a video from today.

Another sincere veteran worried about what is happening to his country and his own personal future brave man !!


The information on the Illuminatti cards and Aurora theatre and other material
is eerie !!


What does it remind you of ?

i thought this was wierd and sick making the Iraqi leadership into a
pack of suited playing cards !! Or does it mean something else ?

http://www.psywarrior.com/52pickup.jpg

http://www.psywarrior.com/OpnIraqiFreedomcont2.html

[TargeT]

Predictive Programming - Sandy Hook in Batman Dark Knight Movie

Monday, 17 December 2012 12:27
By David Icke


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There is some more info on link ,most has already been posted .


http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/76967-connecticut-school-shooting-adam-lanzas-mother-was-preparing-for-disaster

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Is it just coincidence or some kind of predictive mind control ??


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An excelent documentary on this topic here:


A full-length documentary that takes a deep, analytical look at Illuminati and freemasonic symbolism in numerous movies. Examining each movie's use of all-seeing eyes, pyramids, suns, and serpents; then reviewing more covert satanic symbolism rooted in Egyptian, Christian, and Islamic traditions.

Examining [Batman,Watchmen,The Simpsons,Men in Black,Tomb Raider,Blade,Hellboy,The Lion King,THX-1138,Conan the Barbarian,Stargate,The man who would be king,Spawn,Dogma,Gabriel,The Road to El Dorado].

Full Disclosure contains only partly new material. Much of it was a compilation of my previous documentaries Fallen Angels and Revelations. The new material can, for the most part, be found at the end of the documentary. I felt that the Men in Black segment of Full Disclosure was a bit out of place, but it was necessary to bridge the gap to the subject of vampires, which was Full Disclosure's final goal. And since its release, I have only one significant correction to make: Al-Jasassah, which is Chewbaccas real name means "spy," not "assasin" ( although, I have heard assassin as a translation more than once, still it deserves correction ).

Later, while reading the book called The Mothman Prophecies,I couldn't help but be reminded of the two Men in Black films. After completing the book, I went back and watched Men in black again. It seemed as though parts of the movie were deliberately designed to resemble segments of Keel's book. The Mothman Prophecies talks about a winged humanoid being and its accompanying UFO flap. It also contains what could only be described as demonic and poltergeist activity. The book is full of tales of mysterious men in black, with non-human qualities.

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http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/full.html

and a follow up to that one:

Hollywood Insiders: Beneath the surface (75 minutes; released June 20th, 2010) follows the career of movie writers such as: James Cameron, Roland Emmerich, David Goyer, and Michael Ferris. It also examines Illuminati symbolism in movies like: Avatar, 10000BC, 2012, The men who stare at Goats, Sherlock Holmes, Surrogates, Jumper, and The Crow 2. Further, it analyzes predictive programming, the mayan calender, global warming, the supernatural, mythological retellings in movies.


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http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/beneath.html


There is definately somethign going on in hollywood, and it's NOT just entertainment.




I did hear a theory back along on one of the many vids i have
seen/listened to in the last few years.That said something to
the effect TPTB had to show their plans in public, before
doing them. Obviously we would not pick up on it untill after
it had happened. Anyone else remember hearing that ??


I've heard this before, and it sort of ties into the "fractal reality" idea I read (or smashed together from various things I've read)

If something is to exists, it must be fractally present, that's just how this reality seems to work, now apparently that doesn't mean an EXACT match or pattern, but something very similar.. I see these "predictive programming" efforts sort of like "priming" an engine.. getting a bit of fuel in place ready for the small spark to start whatever chain of events you hope to happen.

9/11 was a very large event, this took a LOT of predictive programming (as you will see in those above documentaries, it showed up in many many places) I think this has to do with what ever "magic" TPTB seem to believe in, and apparently it works for them....

a very interesting topic to be sure..

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Targe the first part was good, this version runs 1 to eight consecutively......

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[Referee]

New evidence in the Aurora Co Shooting. Thrown out by the judge!

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Here is a link to the article:http://www.hangthebankers.com/aurora-theater-shooting-court-documents-blows-inside-job-conspiracy-wide-open/

[Flash]

It sounds like the Idahopicker YT may have been threatened. Here is a video from today.

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He has been threatened and think he will die, here is what is written below the video on youtube


Published on Dec 17, 2012


DOWNLOAD THIS VIDEO IMMEDIATELY!! PLEASE! Reload it on you channel if I go missing. I and other bloggers, youtubers, and websites are being threatened. Help us protect the truth and of voices. My only goal with doing what I do is to provide all people with something closer to the truth of what is going on in the world no lay down and be a slave like "they want us to be. I love all my fellow humans and I can feel your love in my heart and my mind. We are making our offense in an attempt to save us from the ones that plan otherwise. Many will die, but I am not afraid to meet my maker. I am right with him. My efforts in this video has secured that and my position on truth, love and our beautiful world we are lucky to live in. Stand your place with NO FEAR and face what we have to face. The coming days and weeks are going to be done to make you fear and cower. Let me be your example and continue to wake into the light. It beautiful in the light of truth & World Conscience. http://www.facebook.com/idaho.pickerhttp://www.facebook.com/daniel.cannon.1422https://twitter.com/idahopickerhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp...


into the light. It beautiful in the light of truth & World Conscience. http://www.facebook.com/idaho.pickerhttp://www.facebook.com/daniel.cannon.1422https://twitter.com/idahopickerhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp...

Gosh, second time I am trying to copy the other sites he gave below his video on youtube and it just won't copy, wonder why...

[WhiteFeather]

Makes me curiously ponder the fact that Hollywood is perpetrating these tragic events. This is indeed some truly sick Sh!t.

[DeDukshyn]

First amendment under attack!! Warning to Alternative media...

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" ... Mimicking this crime and crime scene ... " Really!? People are mimicking this crime and crime scene via social media?? Is this guy an idiot or what??!!

Sheriff "no ballz" trying to fulfill another "no ballz's" agenda and can't even get the speech right, obviously not speaking from anything he actually knows about ... pricelessly pathetic ... lol.

[CdnSirian]

Videos gone!!

[Flash]

Videos gone!!

he must have had further threats

[CdnSirian]

Videos gone!!

he must have had further threats

Both his and David Icke's vids were removed.

[Dorjezigzag]

There has always been something about Batman for me.
I watched that Batman rises the other day and thought I would enjoy it but there was just something really sinister about it.

Of course in Batman the main characters have their Alter ego's

Then there is this connection with these school shootings of innocents with many claiming that the perpetrators were in 'alter' personalities.
Ok someone needs to interview Chris Nolan about how that got into the film, quick, because this is looking beyond coincidence

Consider also that sacrifice are performed on a altar, o.k different spelling but I have heard the connection made before

[Referee]

Motagraph weighs in............

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[Referee]

I am currently being hacked on facebook. This is bad I am havinfg a conversation with an AF member I never had

[Flash]

I am currently being hacked on facebook. This is bad I am havinfg a conversation with an AF member I never had

you've got to say more on this, why hacked, conversation AF member you never had, what do you mean?

[ThePythonicCow]

He has been threatened and think he will die, here is what is written below the video on youtube


Published on Dec 17, 2012


DOWNLOAD THIS VIDEO IMMEDIATELY!! PLEASE! Reload it on you channel if I go missing. I and other bloggers, youtubers, and websites are being threatened. Help us protect the truth and of voices. My only goal with doing what I do is to provide all people with something closer to the truth of what is going on in the world no lay down and be a slave like "they want us to be. I love all my fellow humans and I can feel your love in my heart and my mind. We are making our offense in an attempt to save us from the ones that plan otherwise. Many will die, but I am not afraid to meet my maker. I am right with him. My efforts in this video has secured that and my position on truth, love and our beautiful world we are lucky to live in. Stand your place with NO FEAR and face what we have to face. The coming days and weeks are going to be done to make you fear and cower. Let me be your example and continue to wake into the light. It beautiful in the light of truth & World Conscience. http://www.facebook.com/idaho.pickerhttp://www.facebook.com/daniel.cannon.1422https://twitter.com/idahopickerhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp...


into the light. It beautiful in the light of truth & World Conscience. http://www.facebook.com/idaho.pickerhttp://www.facebook.com/daniel.cannon.1422https://twitter.com/idahopickerhttp://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp...

Gosh, second time I am trying to copy the other sites he gave below his video on youtube and it just won't copy, wonder why...

That URL is a mishmash of several URL's, all but one of which, if properly separated out, work OK:

http://www.facebook.com/idaho.picker
http://www.facebook.com/daniel.cannon.1422
https://twitter.com/idahopicker
http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp

The only URL in that mishmash that I couldn't decipher was the following one - perhaps someone else can make sense of it:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=

[Referee]

I am currently being hacked on facebook. This is bad I am havinfg a conversation with an AF member I never had

you've got to say more on this, why hacked, conversation AF member you never had, what do you mean?

I was having a conversation with my girlfriends son who is deployed in the AF in Qatar. My facebook chat began to scroll on its own as we discussed the fact that Sandy Hook was in the Dark Knight movie. He rented the movie and watch ...not realy believing me and discovered it was true. I freaked a bit when facebook began to scroll on its own thinking I had not said what it scrolled but then realized it was an old conversation. However it did scroll on its own. Freaked me out.

[Sirius White]

Are we really going to say there were illuminati rituals etc and this links to a batman movie... are we really going to jump on this wagon?

While your jumping down this hole just don't get stuck... remember to take a flashlight with you.

A common misconception.

MK Ultra events of this magnitude are planned months, if not years in advance. The Holmes shooting was by no means an accident. Many of us are now "tuned" in, I knew this series of shootings before even hearing an ounce of information about it was not right. Especially with Obama's fake tear calling for gun control.

Rituals are standard fare in the Illuminati. Doesn't matter if you believe it or not. They do.

The erroenous concept of rituals is that most conspiracy theorists DO NOT UNDERSTAND what the power is. You see, the power is not the ritual. It is the ritual effect on the subconscious. They already had the plan, the agenda, and the intent to manifest gun control.

But they need OUR MINDS, our ENERGIES To manifest it. So by placing subconscious clues, that only your subconscious picks up, and encoding them in movie scenes, in your media, and much more. When the actual event happens, these imprinted subconscious patterns are activated, and they use this energy to achieve their goals. Children sacrifice, is of the ultimate, and I mean, the ultimate type of energetic property in dark occultism.

I wish this was a joke.

All of the 3 more modern Batman, as well as Inception are Occult Magnus Opuses. They are filled with numerology, symbols, concepts, and also hidden themes to do with the times we live in (the last one, wall-street, the guns, the anarchy which is ENGINEERED). Nolan, like me and others, are initiated. Whether its co-incidence or not matters not, because this is a hologram in which everything is entangled, therefore the patterns are HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT.

The only difference between the skeptic and an Illuminati, is the illuminati understands there is an encoding to the hologram, in particular our bandwith range here on earth- and thus learns to understand the underlying patterns so that they can manipulate the physics of consciousness.

[Aurvandil]

Large map of Gotham City from The Dark Knight Rises promotional material: http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg

It is worrying to see that Sandy Hook is marked "Strike zone 1" on the map - what will be next? "Strike zone 2" is close to Fort Clinton (?)...

[Cidersomerset]

Were theses disasters timed as part of a bigger psyops to tie in with this ??

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53274-Zero-Dark-Thirty-Official-Final-Trailer--2012--Kathryn-Bigelow-Bin-Laden-Movie&p=600994#post600994






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In the interview it states Boal & Bigelow planned the project six years ago !

This was obviously part of a 'mind control' psyop to be rolled out when
it was finally time for TPTB to officially kill off their Hollywood villain
Obama.......Boal was fed from official sources !!


At the end the real Heroes have to stay anonomous.......Convenient !

Most of seal team six died in a helicoptor crash.............Convenient !

No Sailor on the ship saw Osamas body.......................Convenient !

That was conveniently sent to 'Davy Jones' Locker........Convenient !

Come on Mainstream " This Stinks" !!!

[Dorjezigzag]

My son likes computer games so he wanted to watch the old Mario Bros movie (1993), I sat and watched it with him thinking oh god this is going to be boring. It actually quite intrigued me they go into this parallel universe which is run by these lizard like people ( yeah very Ickian) there is a lot in it anyway what was most interesting was the clip I show below.

Remember this was made in 1993, 8 years before 911.

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[sigma6]

Looks like a subliminal play on Words...

get it... The Dark Night Rises... hmmm

YouTube is taking this off the internet faster then people can share this!


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[sigma6]

Looks like a subliminal play on Words...

get it... The Dark Night Rises... hmmm

YouTube is taking this off the internet faster then people can share this!


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Another user exposes how YouTube is flagging this video

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[gooty64]

We are in a very sick twisted evil game. Sick entities are fukking with us. Had enough yet?

[Aurvandil]

The Strike 2 zone is close to an area by the name of Fort Clinton. There are several Fort Clinton but one of them is actually West Point, United States Military Academy. Perhaps the next "event" will happen here?

Or what about an "event" around the Narrowes, also on the Gotham map, apparently the strait between Brooklyn and Staten Island??

Nothing surprises me anymore...

[Precog]

The Military is fully involved in all of this as they were with 911, USS Cole, JFK and others. The Army War College said they could have never imagined something like 911. WHAT? REALLY!But the thermite (nano particles) used matches their stock and no one elses. All of our Academies have been taken over by these extremists. Gordon Duff (at Veterans Today) has been pionting this out for quite some time now. These events are planned very far in anvance to get the children enrolled in the schools to play the parts they play. Take a look at Colombine. In court it came out that there were as many as seven shooters and they found four trench coats so we were lied to about that one too. Look at these events and you will find problems with ever one of them.

[Freed Fox]

So if there is a larger coverup behind these atrocities, what is their purpose? Pushing certain political agendas? Creating an climate of fear and distrust amongst the citizens? Blood sacrifice???

Trying not to be too paranoid about this, but some of this is just too obvious to ignore or relegate to 'coincidence' status.

Above all, we ourselves must remain vigilant, and unafraid.

[Lifebringer]

Just as they use the child soldiers, they use the mind altering drugs at an early age from homes that are destitute and poverty stricken and any child that faces a trauma they try to find the trigger points during therapeutic sessions and when it's in a file, the MIC is able to use it. Yes, they are sick and twisted bunch of maladjusted souls, with no remorse for the killing of innocents to carry out their agenda. But if we aren't afraid, and remain determined to apprehend those responsible and place them in steel cuffs with NO CLUB FED SENTENCING, we can move on to a prosperous and wonderful future without them at the helm. They've run aground too much for my taste.

[soleil]

try posting them on vimeo? multiple source it guys!!

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

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This is just BIZARRE!

[ThePythonicCow]

This is just BIZARRE!
Indeed.

Here's a link to Google Maps for Sandy Hook Elementary School,Newtown, CT (http://goo.gl/maps/uxs8p).

Excellent match to the Batman movie map.

[sigma6]

Just as they use the child soldiers, they use the mind altering drugs at an early age from homes that are destitute and poverty stricken and any child that faces a trauma they try to find the trigger points during therapeutic sessions and when it's in a file, the MIC is able to use it. Yes, they are sick and twisted bunch of maladjusted souls, with no remorse for the killing of innocents to carry out their agenda. But if we aren't afraid, and remain determined to apprehend those responsible and place them in steel cuffs with NO CLUB FED SENTENCING, we can move on to a prosperous and wonderful future without them at the helm. They've run aground too much for my taste.

Yeah I like that thinking, that no one's records are safe in a Big Brother Society that they are building out there in Utah. Plus private corporations make huge money from Prisons and Mental Hospitals, more employment and career opportunities for more drug dealing psychiatrists and all the support staff that manage these people like pets in a zoo. (or just plain animals in a prison) The 'war' is on, I think the people are waking up, as more and more happens, it will become impossible for even more 'deniers'...

btw I suggest everyone search Pirate's Bay (.se) and then search for "Da-vid Ic-ke Wem-blay" (don't put those dashes in hahah) and get the 4 GB download, it's the complete show, and it really did have some new stuff that he talks about... It's all about people waking up, I think he did a damn fine job of connecting more dots in one session that you could imagine... (and of course if you can afford it, by all means contribute to his cause...)

[Logan]

I dig a good conspiracy, but I don't understand how one frame of a building that says Aurora on it somehow means the movie is a trigger of this terrible tragedy pulled off by a very disturbed individual.

It means nothing really. I did think it was spooky how they described 9/11 in that Lone Gunmen pilot, but this DKR stuff has no basis IMHO

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[SilentFeathers]

It becomes less of a conspiracy if the "Aurora" shot is not from the Batman movie. I haven't watched the movie but that shot is from another clip of a James Bond movie. Did anyone check this? 41 seconds in to the teaser you will find the shot that you are claiming is from Batman.

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Is this "Aurora" building in both movies?

It doesn't surprise me if it is as James Bond is tied into John Dee and being involved with the "Royal Blood Line"

[Peace of Mind]

I guess if you sit around the kool-aid long enough eventually you’ll start drinking it. It seems certain people are either getting very desperate in linking events with some sought of doom and gloom, or all this conspiracy stuff has placed a strangle hold on the minds of many.

Imho, I’m thinking some people have truly lost their minds to all this conspiracy stuff, perhaps this global mind blitz was always the intention within the alternative media, as you can clearly see that people are still deeply entrenched in this stuff, substance that has no true substance at all, nor a leg to stand on. The sad part about it all is that these people probably don’t even realize it, I mean, just look at how much power is giving away to this kind of material and how little power is put into more meaningful things.hmmm

It’s truly amazing witnessing grown folks chasing their tales and convincing themselves into believing in lies. Isn’t this the time of the year where awareness becomes stronger? Idk, but from the look of it that may also be a lie.

In any case, life is only going to be what you make it. It’s just becoming ever so clear to me now that most people aren’t eally ready to create because they are still looking for the next unfortunate scenario to promote and the next unconfirmed testimony to follow.

Peace

[SilentFeathers]

or one can just continue to live in denial and ignore the perverted and deadly sections of the collective reality that surrounds us all...and pretend there is NO conspiracy when evidence is becoming more common and clearer everyday that there is one.

ADDED:

You wrote this in another thread Peace,


Re: What are you going to do on the 21-12-2012
I'll be apologizing to all the people I mentioned this 2012 stuff to, yes, I'll be holding myself accountable and taking responsiblity as always. Then I'll start formulating better plans to rid the world of deceivers and ill will perpetrators. I have some good stuff in the works and I suspect 2013 will be my best year yet.

Peace

I personally do not think most of us here are kool aid drinkers drinkers and fruit cakes caught up in conspiracy theories (as you imply in post #12 in this thread).....I think most of us here are;

"formulating better plans to rid the world of deceivers and ill will perpetrators."

I know you mentioned "certain people", I'm not saying you are totally wrong :)

[Peace of Mind]

I for one can't wait to see this REAL evidence. I imagine it to be very easy to obtain/decipher and undeniable. I can wait a bit longer, it's not like the world is going to end tomorrow.

Peace

[Peace of Mind]

or one can just continue to live in denial and ignore the perverted and deadly sections of the collective reality that surrounds us all...and pretend there is NO conspiracy when evidence is becoming more common and clearer everyday that there is one.

ADDED:

You wrote this in another thread Peace,


Re: What are you going to do on the 21-12-2012
I'll be apologizing to all the people I mentioned this 2012 stuff to, yes, I'll be holding myself accountable and taking responsiblity as always. Then I'll start formulating better plans to rid the world of deceivers and ill will perpetrators. I have some good stuff in the works and I suspect 2013 will be my best year yet.

Peace

I personally do not think most of us here are kool aid drinkers drinkers and fruit cakes caught up in conspiracy theories.....I think most of us here are;

"formulating better plans to rid the world of deceivers and ill will perpetrators."

I sure hope so, as of now all I'm seeing is the promotion of fallacies. Perhaps this will all change tomorrow.;) If not then I will continue to fight against these decievers. It's nothing for me to do this. It's becoming obvious that some have a issue with it, I'm still wondering why, but not worried at all about it.

Peace

[sleepy]

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[sigma6]

Given the hundreds of hours of commentary on the hundreds and hundreds of examples, interviews, etc of predictive programming, not sure why anyone would try to convince us there is no such thing as underground criminal organizations, no Illuminati, no elites, no conspiracies... to these people all I can say is why show up on these threads and even bother ??? (Maybe you want to check out the Sandy Hook threads... )

And the funny thing is 'the pattern' .. ie. "not that I'm criticizing..." (and then they go into a criticism) or "not that I am disagreeing..." (and then they go into a disagreement) or "I just love a conspiracy..." (then proceed to say they why they can't accept a possible conspiracy... etc...) I suggest people take note of these posts (it's rather prevalent on this site) as I find this kind of text rather 'telling'... (imho)

In any event... To not believe in conspiracies is a naive state of mind. Let's face it, if many of us ever got into positions of power and privilege. Why wouldn't we make efforts to maintain that? and why should there be a limit on what we might do to maintain that?

Everyone is encouraged to use their own discernment. Take nothing for granted, the greatest exercise of your mind is to ask the right questions.

[161803398]

For a very short time I thought that talking about these issues was interesting but of no real value until I realized that all the talking was working to bring awareness, make people who could see behind the BS more confident in their opinion and thus get the ball rolling for change. Maybe its a slow process but it will work.

The Batman movie isn't really proof of anything. Seeing the movie might convince some nutcase to actually go out and shoot someone in Sandy Hook. But its interesting and possibly relevant.

[sigma6]

For those who are having trouble connecting the dots... here's some 'training wheels' for support....

Why Sandy Hook might 'coincidentally' end up in another Hollywood Movie...
The following may help explain why it has been "on the map"
and maybe for a long, long time....

Say whaaaatt? but how can that be? it just doesn't make any sense to me... (scratches head thoughtfully)
I just don't see how a bunch of kids getting killed could have been predicted...

Here's a little wake up call, I read from another post, and checked out...
Excerpt from http://rense.com (http://rense.com/general95/mkultra.html)

Agency-Spawned Pedophiles

"...The MK-ULTRA program that reached into campuses across Connecticut quickly created a human garbage heap of wrecked minds and twisted souls. The child abuse and drugs routinely administered to young trainees led to a permanent social fixture of sadism and sexual abuse throughout New England from the gutter up to the governing class.

In 2011, a Newtown resident named Edwin Wilson was arrested for having a months-long sexual relationship with a 4-year-old girl and producing child-porn videos of their sexual encounters. The arrest was a part of a wide crackdown order the state attorney general, Richard Blumenthal ­ which boosted his successful campaign in the U.S. Senate race. Other cases included: a 24-year-old Hispanic male in Hartford who shot videos of sex with a pre-teen girl; a DJ in Plainfield arraigned on similar charges, an older theater and film teacher accused of using Taft school’s equipment to make kiddie porn ­ the list goes on in sickening detail. Fairfield University, where MK-ULTRA was implanted into New England, recently saw two staffers implicated in the rape of 23 Haitian boys during the earthquake relief effort.

Adam Lanza fits the profile of a pedophile-ring recruit ­ young enough to approach children at the local schools and in the churches, possessing the computer skills to produce child-porn videos and typically passive-aggressive in personality. The Lanzas attended the Saint Rosa of Lima Church, where eight child parishioners were among the shooting victims. Santa Rosa is the very same order that sponsors the western-state hospital that employed Michael Jackson’s physician Dr. Conrad Murray. As in the case of Jackson’s Neverland, after a child-sex experiment blossoms, it must be shut down.

The Lone Gun-Boy Theory

Nancy Lanza kept an arsenal of firearms, and ordered her son to be constantly under watch by older boys. She must have had good reason for being armed to the teeth. Judging from her hoard of rifles and hand guns, she was expecting an all-out assault from a coven of pedophiles, not an attack by a single shooter. The lone gun-boy theory is sheer nonsense ­ her son may have been an accomplice in giving the assailants access to his home but ended up murdered as a patsy.

The coven is larger and more powerful than Mrs. Lanza could ever have imagined. Sexual violation is the key to creating intelligence agents and assassins who are impervious to reason and mercy, lacking any original thoughts or moral qualms. Plus a supply of children is needed in Congress and the White House to entertain the satraps and moguls from Colombian drug lords to Israeli weapons dealers and French money launderers, not to mention America’s own homegrown pervs.

The Motive: Payback for a Double-Cross

If the culprits had been Adam Lanza and his pals, then their response to grounding would have been something like posting photos and address of naked children. The method of the shooting ­ point-blank execution-style gun shots ­ indicate that the assailants were professional hit men, probably allied with the Winter Hill Gang.

The Sandy Hook assault happened probably because of a split between competing institutions and diverging policies. On one hand, the gangland figures who cooperated with CIA mind-control program that promoted child-sex as a means of ensuring obedience and secrecy were being challenged by politicians playing up parental demands to clean up the scandalous child-sex problem in Connecticut.

The dirty FBI agent John Connelly was more of a double agent and go-between for the Feds and not simply a Winter Hill mole as portraying at his sentencing. The arrest of Whitey Bulger was a pure-and-simple double-cross by the FBI and CIA, who had used him as an ally in MK-ULTRA and informant for more than a half-century. In his ambitious drive to win a U.S. senatorial seat, state attorney general and now Senator Blumenthal broke the basic rules of mob cooperation. And now that has led to a war on the streets and in the schools.

Unlike the Sicilian crime families who went down easy, the fighting Irish criminals can be counted on to put up a street battle with the same flair as in the movie “The Gangs of New York.” The gangsters have no shortage of allies in the pimps, drug dealers, pedophiles, punks and deranged freaks who have been caught up in the sudden dragnet. The police are outnumbered and easily outgunned. It’s happened before, as in Fort Apache in the South Bronx. Sandy Hook is just the first installment of a payback. If the Feds push any harder, then Bridgeport and Boston will soon be looking like Belfast during the troubles or Beirut in the bad old days.

Stop Drugging the Kids

The mass media is under pressure to cover up the incident with sympathetic blather instead of a sustained probe. Forensic evidence is being literally buried. America is moving on ­ where to, nobody knows. The politicians and cops are now silent and glum. Relying on arrests and wiretapping, they have forgotten that the fight against crime begins with addressing social justice, economic fairness and education ­ and in some unfortunate cases, psychiatric care.

Was a Senate seat worth the lives of all those children and teachers? Blumenthal, who paints himself as a clone of the erstwhile New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, will have to live with that question for the remainder of his life. Is the CIA satisfied that its mind-control techniques that have created hordes of homicidal monsters from Iraq to Libya and now Connecticut?

The lesson of Sandy Hook is that mind-control cannot itself be controlled. Programmed killers are like robots without power-off switches. The process of transforming innocent children into robots through sexual abuse is inhumane and a crime. Whatever MK-ULTRA is called today - since we know it still exists after seeing the Abu Ghraib Prison photos - it must be shut down forever or the murderous nightmare will go on and on. And mind-altering drugs are not just for sinister purposes, since at least 60 percent of U.S. children are on a pharmaceutical dosages long before they can learn how to think. Even parents act as mind-controllers against their own kids.

Now, with the investigation terminated, comes the diversionary exercise of “gun control”, a national effort led by Joe Biden, a member of the Knights of Malta, a politician with an intelligence background who is sworn to protect the interests of the Vatican. Say it ain't so, Joe. Leave intact the right of armed self-defense or the gangsters will take over everything, but get rid of the drugs and end the mind control and America will be a safer place, especially for its children..."



Maybe dead children don't talk as much as live ones... there's your motive, intent and means...

[Referee]

New Info comming from Idaho Picker today here is a teaser 12/22/2012

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[gooty64]

Hi Ref, sorry in advance if this question has been covered.
Isn't it possible that the Sandy Hook massacre lone gunmen was a Batman/Gotham city fanatic and saw Sandy Hook on the map in the movie.
And that's what motivated him act out this horrific massacre in Sandy Hook.
I don't really believe this scenario but, i am just wondering what the response to this question is.

ps, good teaser video above.

[Referee]

Hi Ref, sorry in advance if this question has been covered.
Isn't it possible that the Sandy Hook massacre lone gunmen was a Batman/Gotham city fanatic and saw Sandy Hook on the map in the movie.
And that's what motivated him act out this horrific massacre in Sandy Hook.
I don't really believe this scenario but, i am just wondering what the response to this question is.

ps, good teaser video above.

Good Question. Honestly that is a valid possibility. I have a felling once this info from Idaho Picker is released there will be little doubt. However it does not account for the fact that the word Aurora appears on a buliding in that same movie. It dose not acount for the red ink on the map making a parymid.

Cheers, and Happy Holidays,
Kevin

[Referee]

Avalonians, Idahopicker is asking for help looking at the Batman Map from the Dark Knight Rises movie the one tied to two mass shootings.

Lets Help him out in particular we are trying to figure out what Strike Zone 3 and 4 are, possible future events? We also need to know what is inside the red circles and squares some have been Identified!

Check out the Video Below.

IMO there is something here to be investigated!!

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Lets figure this out!

Kevin

[ghostrider]

I would look for something with the word or name Eve, between the half moon shape and the circle , right along the dotted line.

[AMystic3434]

Is it just a coincidence that Auroura and Sandy Hook are in the batman movie. Or is it another clue of the illuminati in movies and mind control. This is a very interesting video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr2SHssCaWM

[gaiagirl]

I saw this online the other day . . . I don't believe in coincidences anymore.

[ghostrider]

I agree , there are no accidents...

[matissathepissa]

too strange to be a coincidence in my opinion. Of all the places on a map Sandy HOok? Why not Gotham City? WE are being brain washed and deceived at every turn. I dont watch tv because it is all brainwashing. My son and i rent movies sometimes. the other night we rented Smallvillle and at one point i heard another voice under his voice and in another scene i saw very briefly a dead body of a man who was naked. Certainly the voice and body were not supposed to be picked up on conciously. I have not picked up on anything like that before but this for some reason was flashed before my eyes and ears.

[Referee]

There are already two or three threads about this. Please check my thread do you like puzzles Batman map for more detail.

[ThePythonicCow]

Sandy Hook AND Aurora in Batman Movie - Distribute Quickly

Looks like a subliminal play on Words...

get it... The Dark Night Rises... hmmm

Sandy Hook and Aurora in Batman Movie - Make Viral asap!

Looks like a subliminal play on Words...

Are You Good at Puzzles? Batman Map!

Avalonians, Idahopicker is asking for help looking at the Batman Map from the Dark Knight Rises movie the one tied to two mass shootings.

Sandy Hook in Batman Movie. Just a coincidence?

Is it just a coincidence that Auroura and Sandy Hook are in the batman movie. Or is it another clue of the illuminati in movies and mind control. This is a very interesting video.

I merged the above threads into this one earlier thread, "Sandy Hook clearly seen on Gotham City Map", on the same topic.

[we-R-one]

Today for Christmas myself and extended family went to see the movie Jack Reacher, I thought it was interesting to note that one of the characters in the movie was named Sandy....coincidence? I didn't think so considering the original release date was slated for Dec. 15, the day after the Sandy Hook shooting. Also, I noticed the number of people shot and killed in the movie was 5. If any of you have followed me in my V for Vendetta thread there's some connection to the number 5 also known as the letter V. I believe I might have found a reason for the common occurrence of 5, I posted a clue on the V for Vendetta thread, and will reveal the answer in a couple of days. I'm still missing a piece of the puzzle and am hoping someone will be able to make the connection based on their knowledge of numbers.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52776-Definite-Hidden-Message-in-the-film-V-for-Vendetta

If you don't have time to read the first post scroll down to post #12

[Referee]

Okay two updates:

First School Shutdown Narrows VA over concerns about the Gothem City Map

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Second could this story be one of the small red circles in the NY part of the map?

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