What Really Happened at Sandy Hook??

[heyokah]

http://www.ustream.tv/user/healthfreedomportal

This one worked for me, up till the moment my 1-week-old laptop went totally black and threw me off of all the tabs I had open on my screen. ????????


edit

The link still works for me though.

[Akasha]

In light of the Phelps/Sexton issue I decided to scan through some more of the various mainstream video reports related to the S.H. shooting and came across the one immediately below. At 6-11 seconds, shooting victim Victoria Soto's sister is presented sharing part of a memorial speech.

QVGPiJyNnBc

On hearing it I was immediately reminded of the infamous "Nayirah" who shared with the world the alleged incubator murders in a Kuwaiti hospital by Iraqi soldiers back in 1990 (video below)...........

LmfVs3WaE9Y

..........so I've created an audio file of "Nayirah"s performance with the audio clip of Victoria Soto's sister's speech interjected throughout to allow for an easier A/B comparison. The "Nayirah" audio, being of superior quality, is untouched. I did however significantly eq the Soto sister audio, boosting the high frequency range to compensate for what is a much more muffled and lower quality recording.

It should be noted throughout any audio or visual comparison that there is approximately 22 years between the two videos.

It may also be worth noting that Ed Chiarini / Dallasgoldbug has already identified "Nayirah" as (very) occasional documentary producer / director, Arden Wohl (http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm2476012/).


Download (downward pointing arrow below right of audio) or listen to the audio file here (https://soundcloud.com/user484463393) and if you think I've gone down the wrong hole, feel free to pull me out!

[TargeT]

I tried my 4 different browsers (just for edification, different browsers really don't handle port 80 traffic appreciably differently) down on all accounts, dnslookup works still so the site is freshly dead.
But ... what did dnslookup tell you :)?

Did you get the same IP address of 182.18.222.50 that all the name servers I use returned?

(An IP address that dazzlepod.com/ip says is in San Juan, Batangas, Philippines -- weird.)


IP Address 216.86.157.18
Domain Name Servers ns2.fuseddns.com 184.154.191.251
................................ns1.fuseddns.com 216.86.157.77
Mail Exchange healthfreedomusa.org 216.86.157.18

difference between texas and alaska perhaps?

[ThePythonicCow]

Dr. Rima Truth Reports:

All of our sites were cancelled at GoDaddy
This is an excellent example of why one should use a different DNS provider for critical URLs than the web hosting service provider one uses.

If she was using a different DNS provider, she might still be able to work with them to redirect her most valuable URL, www.HealthFreedomUSA.org, to some page on her backup server.

Make those bastards, er eh hackers, er eh tax dollars work for their fun.

[Hervé]

Well, the video that's at http://savemylifedrrima.com/category/dr-rima-blog-vlog/ is the same YouTube video whose uploader has cancelled their account...:(

[ThePythonicCow]

IP Address 216.86.157.18
Domain Name Servers ns2.fuseddns.com 184.154.191.251
................................ns1.fuseddns.com 216.86.157.77

The 216.86.157.18 address appears to me to have once been the correct IP address for http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/.

(The other two you list are for a couple of name servers at fuseddns.com. Thanks - they are pretty fast - I'll add them to my collection of DNS providers.)

According to https://dazzlepod.com/ip/?ip_address=216.86.157.18, the IP address 216.86.157.18 is for the server srv1.healthfreedomusa.org hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA. That IP address now gets me a default Apache page, suggesting I am getting to the web server alright, but it doesn't have any website to offer up for that exact address.

My records of expired <URL, IP> mappings show that 216.86.157.18 was once the correct IP for healthfreedomusa.org.

I don't understand however why Rima E. Laibow said GoDaddy above, but this URL goes to Steadfast Networks. So there is most likely one or more additional errors in my reporting.

[ThePythonicCow]

You can reach us at www.SaveMyLifeDrRima.com.

I enlarged and emboldened this sentence in your report, Amzer Zo.

(After realizing it was far more important than all my technical gibberish that risked burying it.)

[Hervé]

Check the top video at this page where she explains the time line of the events: http://www.ustream.tv/user/healthfreedomportal

[Akasha]

Just checked www.healthfreedomusa.org and it is currently up and running.

Sorry for the lo-res. The screen shot I tried to upload is 500 kb but it keeps getting compressed into a thumbnail......................Paul, perhaps you can help.

There is nothing I can do from this end. Sorry.

The image uploading software for our server squeezed the image down to about 25 Kbytes, rendering it mostly unreadable. The only full sized, readable image is somewhere on your local PC.

Typically one has to upload such images to other sites, and then link that image into your post here. I here tell that dropbox.com is the current most recommended site for uploading images. The free account should have more than enough space for your screen shot. Then copy the link that dropbox provides into a post here.

Cheers Paul, I'll do that next time.

[Hervé]

All right folks, this video (still) works:

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After you've finished viewing it, then you maybe able to understand the monster that's preparing to show up at the horizons of the USA:


"Siberia Bill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Bill)" remake!

See my post # 238 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605056&viewfull=1#post605056) on the preceding page.

[SilentFeathers]

Amazing that they'll try to shut her up but let others rant and rave like Alex Jones, Drake, Cobra, etc etc. This surely raises a flag that she poked someone in the eye.

[Hervé]

Amazing that they'll try to shut her up but let others rant and rave like Alex Jones, Drake, Cobra, etc etc. This surely raises a flag that she poked someone in the eye.


Yep, the illuminati right arm in the USA: the American Psychiatric Association which, of course, works in a tightly knit association with CIA and all their mind control programs from MKultra to satanism... ever heard of the Greenbaum speech (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=485533&viewfull=1#post485533)?


Then, check post # 260 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605140&viewfull=1#post605140) as well as post #238 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605056&viewfull=1#post605056).


Then check this thread about psychiatrists renovated bible, the DSM-5:


Psychiatry goes insane. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53064-Psychiatry-goes-insane.)

[observer]

I have been a supporter of Dr. Rema Laibow for at least three years, sending-in the petitions that I felt relevant. At no time did I suspect either she, nor Bert Stubblebine were complacent in this tragic shooting. I suspected they were being used in a complex plot that was reinforced by my misinterpretation of Dr. Laibow's video, "I Am Adam Lanza's Doctor". Thank you Paul for getting to the bottom of that confusion.

With regard to the hacking of Dr. Laibow's websites, there is so much more to this part of the story. There IS a direct link between the shootings in Connecticut and the hacking of Dr. Laibow's website. Someone with more computer savvy will, no doubt, discover that connection.

I believe the area that needs investigating is related to the work Dr. Laibow does with exposing the pharmaceutical industry. There is an obvious connection between the pharmaceutical industry and this mass shooting, in fact, all mass shootings appear to have a pharmaceutical connection.

[SilentFeathers]

Then check this thread about psychiatists renovated bible, the DSM-5:


Psychiatry goes insane. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53064-Psychiatry-goes-insane.)

This could be one of the biggest "hints" to what this (these shootings) are/is actually all about......disarm the population, claim all people are mentally unfit, drug them in to zombies, and then go on a turkey shoot!

[Hervé]

Observer...

... if you follow the link provided under "Siberia Bill" in post # 260 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605140&viewfull=1#post605140), you might, with enough perseverence, run into something like this:



In Ron's Journal 67 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ron%27s_Journal_67&action=edit&redlink=1), Hubbard identified "the people behind the Siberia Bill", who he asserted were
"... less than twelve men. They are members of the Bank of England and other higher financial circles. They own and control newspaper chains, and they are, oddly enough, directors in all the mental health groups in the world which have sprung up. Now these chaps are very interesting fellows: They have fantastically corrupt backgrounds; illegitimate children; government graft; a very unsavory lot. And they apparently, sometime in the rather distant past, had determined on a course of action. Being in control of most of the gold supplies of the planet, they entered upon a program of bringing every government to bankruptcy and under their thumb, so that no government would be able to act politically without their permission."[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Bill#cite_note-23)So that, on one hand they are majority share holders of "Big Pharma" and, on the other hand, controlling all the "Mental Health" institutions the world round... which lead us directly to a remake of the "Siberia Bill" but, this time, with people's "approval!"

Then, post # 260 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605140&viewfull=1#post605140) and post #238 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605056&viewfull=1#post605056) may start to make sense and your assumption of a direct connection between Dr. Laibow and the Connecticut false flag being substantiated with those posts.

The direct link is her posting that video and plainly saying that psychiatric drugging of people is horse sh!t and completely unnecessary: direct attack on the pill-pushing psychiatry and the the pill producers... that's usually a deadly combination to which she added a hint of (satanic?) rape of little girls.

[Akasha]

I'm reposting post 252 from page 13 because I think it may have been overlooked during the (important) quest for the "I Am Adam Lanza's Doctor" video.
Here it is again, slighted re-edited:

In light of the Phelps/Sexton issue I decided to scan through some more of the various mainstream video reports related to the S.H. shooting and came across the one immediately below. At 6-11 seconds, shooting victim Victoria Soto's sister is presented sharing part of a memorial speech.

QVGPiJyNnBc

On hearing it I was immediately reminded of the infamous "Nayirah" who shared with the world her testimony of the alleged incubator murders in a Kuwaiti hospital by Iraqi soldiers back in 1990 (video below)...........

LmfVs3WaE9Y

..........so I've created an audio file of "Nayirah"s performance with the audio clip of Victoria Soto's sister's speech interjected throughout to allow for an easier A/B comparison. The "Nayirah" audio, being of superior quality, is untouched. I did however significantly eq the Soto sister audio, boosting the high frequency range to compensate for what is a much more muffled and lower quality recording.

Download (downward pointing arrow below right of audio on SoundCloud page) and/or listen to the audio file here (https://soundcloud.com/user484463393).

It should be noted throughout any audio or visual comparison that there is approximately 22 years between the two videos.

It may also be worth noting that Ed Chiarini / Dallasgoldbug has already identified "Nayirah" as (very) occasional documentary producer / director, Arden Wohl (http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm2476012/). It may also be significant that out of the three documentaries she has produced or directed, the only one with any form of description on IMDB is "Playground" being described as "A look into the sex trade of children"!

If you think I've gone down the wrong hole, feel free to pull me out!

[SilentFeathers]

Not sure if this makes much sense; I've watched it a few times and can't really see the same people, perhaps someone else`here can?

qGgBOgWfRDE

[modwiz]

I think some of these people are plants

I guess we shouldn't water them? :p

[kathymarie]

As for #3....the "grieving Robbie Parker"....CBS keeps playing his tearful and poignant "statement"....but do a search to see the entire video....someone had a camera running the entire time....he was giggling, laughing then just before he was instructed to step to the microphone he put on a sad face and started deep breathing exercises---much like an actor getting ready for a tough and tearful scene. You want to see something that STINKS? Watch that.

[ThePythonicCow]

It may also be worth noting that Ed Chiarini / Dallasgoldbug has already identified "Nayirah" as (very) occasional documentary producer / director, Arden Wohl.
I can't find the original, but from other hits I get on Google, yes, apparently Dallasgoldbug identified Nayirah as Arden Wohl.

This would be yet another good example of why I don't rely on Dallasgoldbug.

I am rather confident that Nurse Nayirah was none other than Nayirah (or Nijirah) al-Sabah, the daughter of Kuwait’s ambassador to the United States, Saud Nasir al-Sabah. See here (http://mark1marti2.wordpress.com/tag/nijirah-al-sabah/), or view the following image from here (http://www.konzertfilmer.de/alice/Alice-mass-media-bg.html):

http://thepythoniccow.us/Nayirah_Testimony.jpg


On the other hand, I am pretty sure that Nayirah is not Arden Wohl. Here is a more recent image of Arden Wohl, from here (http://gawker.com/arden-wohl/).

http://thepythoniccow.us/Arden Wohl.jpg

[SilentFeathers]

I think the alleged shooter (Lanza) was dead before he even got to the school, no one (alive) actually seen this person arrive, enter, shoot, etc etc.....no one seen him do ANYTHING......but they seen two other dudes "detained" that morning, but the two detained "suspects" miraculously disappeared.

I reckon the school security cameras were mysteriously not working that day too?

ADDED: Another ritual swept under the rug to keep us "active minds" guessing or distracted

New gun control laws/bans will be the only thing that comes out of this...

[modwiz]

I think the alleged shooter (Lanza) was dead before he even got to the school, no one (alive) actually seen this person arrive, enter, shoot, etc etc.....no one seen him do ANYTHING......but they seen two other dudes "detained" that morning, but the two detained "suspects" miraculously disappeared.

I reckon the school security cameras were mysteriously not working that day too?

ADDED: Another ritual swept under the rug to keep us "active minds" guessing or distracted

New gun control laws/bans will be the only thing that comes out of this...

No security camera footage because the criminals were white.
Personally, I think the scumbags blew this one pretty bad. This thing is really falling apart. The NRA is digging in its heels. There is equal political opportunity for there to be a push for more Americans to be armed. The Oregon story is slipping out of control and is a perfect example for the non gun control story to be made. This is not to disagree with you as to offer a view that I see.



Merry Christmas.

[Akasha]

This would be yet another good example of why I don't rely on Dallasgoldbug.

Thanks for that, Paul. After seeing the Al-Sabah family photo I agree with you.

[Akasha]

Not sure if this makes much sense; I've watched it a few times and can't really see the same people, perhaps someone else`here can?

qGgBOgWfRDE

Ditto: not very clear what's being insinuated there except the Phelps/Greenberg Sexton connection.

[Akasha]

Article on the subject from the Global Research website entitled "The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776)".

[TargeT]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776

from the article:

The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information
Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre.

“[My staff] and I hope the people of Newtown don’t have it crash on their head later.” –Connecticut Medical Examiner D. Wayne Carver II, MD, December 15, 2012

Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre. The public’s general acceptance of the event’s validity and faith in its resolution suggests a deepened credulousness borne from a world where almost all news and information is electronically mediated and controlled. The condition is reinforced through the corporate media’s unwillingness to push hard questions vis-à-vis Connecticut and federal authorities who together bottlenecked information while invoking prior restraint through threats of prosecutorial action against journalists and the broader citizenry seeking to interpret the event on social media.

Along these lines on December 19 the Connecticut State Police assigned individual personnel to each of the 26 families who lost a loved one at Sandy Hook Elementary. “The families have requested no press interviews,” State Police assert on their behalf, “and we are asking that this request be honored.[1] The de facto gag order will be in effect until the investigation concludes—now forecast to be “several months away” even though lone gunman Adam Lanza has been confirmed as the sole culprit.[2]

With the exception of an unusual and apparently contrived appearance by Emilie Parker’s alleged father, victims’ family members have been almost wholly absent from public scrutiny.[3] What can be gleaned from this and similar coverage raises many more questions and glaring inconsistencies than answers. While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.

The Accidental Medical Examiner

An especially important yet greatly underreported feature of the Sandy Hook affair is the wholly bizarre performance of Connecticut’s top medical examiner H. Wayne Carver II at a December 15 press conference. Carver’s unusual remarks and behavior warrant close consideration because in light of his professional notoriety they appear remarkably amateurish and out of character.

H. Wayne Carver II has an extremely self-assured, almost swaggering presence in Connecticut state administration. In early 2012 Carver threatened to vacate his position because of state budget cuts and streamlining measures that threatened his professional autonomy over the projects and personnel he oversaw.

Along these lines the pathologist has gone to excessive lengths to demonstrate his findings and expert opinion in court proceedings. For example, in a famous criminal case Carver “put a euthanized pig through a wood chipper so jurors could match striations on the bone fragments with the few ounces of evidence that prosecutors said were on the remains of the victim.”[4] One would therefore expect Carver to be in his element while identifying and verifying the exact ways in which Sandy Hook’s children and teachers met their violent demise.

Yet the H. Wayne Carver who showed up to the December 15 press conference is an almost entirely different man, appearing apprehensive and uncertain, as if he is at a significant remove from the postmortem operation he had overseen. The multiple gaffes, discrepancies, and hedges in response to reporters’ astute questions suggest that he is either under coercion or an imposter. While the latter sounds untenable it would go a long way in explaining his sub-pedestrian grasp of medical procedures and terminology.


and much more, very interesting background on the medical examiner, I'd say this is another big discrepancy... I was not aware how experienced the medical examiner is, his performance was not consistent with that.

[SilentFeathers]

Related to the Sandy Hook shooting?


Body found in burned home of killer of 2 firemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/25/firefighters-shot-new-york-webster/1790293/

In the article....


One of the weapons recovered was a .233-caliber semiautomatic Bushmaster rifle with flash suppression, the same make and caliber gun used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Perhaps a coincidence? Hmmmmm?

He had a few guns, but of course they are only focusing on this one.....for legislation purposes I imagine....

[observer]

Related to the Sandy Hook shooting?


Body found in burned home of killer of 2 firemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/25/firefighters-shot-new-york-webster/1790293/

In the article....


One of the weapons recovered was a .233-caliber semiautomatic Bushmaster rifle with flash suppression, the same make and caliber gun used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Perhaps a coincidence? Hmmmmm?

He had a few guns, but of course they are only focusing on this one.....for legislation purposes I imagine....

I draw your attention to the second paragraph in this linked KSHB news release dated 12/14/12:

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/national/guns-used-in-newtown-school-shooting-legally-purchased-by-suspects-mother

The hype regarding a semi-automatic assault rifle being used in this Newtown School attack is nothing more than dis-information. The rifle in question was NOT used in the shootings. Only hand guns were involved in any of the shooting inside of the school.

[SilentFeathers]

I'm aware of that Observer, but the MSM is making most others not aware of that.

[Flash]

This was in the Horus Ra thread thanks to Houman, it describes how kids being drug will hallucinate, loose consciousness and do violent acts.

I am listening to it right now, the first few minutes up to Michael Moore piece, included, is about what is necessary to understand what is going on.

I think it fits very well with the youngs who did the shooting in different places (Aurora, Columbine, now Newton and others)

Starting at minute 55, the kids start saying what Paxil had as impact, hearing voices that tells you to kill, feeling depressed, etc.

Later on the parents say the problem is not the guns but the psychosis provoking drugs they are given.

Now, lets imagine how easy it is to be shooting orders to kill to their ears throuhg psychotropic technologies, if they are already weakened on psychiatric medication.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk&feature=player_embedded

[Salv8tion]

Related to the Sandy Hook shooting?


Body found in burned home of killer of 2 firemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/25/firefighters-shot-new-york-webster/1790293/

In the article....


One of the weapons recovered was a .233-caliber semiautomatic Bushmaster rifle with flash suppression, the same make and caliber gun used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Perhaps a coincidence? Hmmmmm?

He had a few guns, but of course they are only focusing on this one.....for legislation purposes I imagine....

I draw your attention to the second paragraph in this linked KSHB news release dated 12/14/12:

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/national/guns-used-in-newtown-school-shooting-legally-purchased-by-suspects-mother

The hype regarding a semi-automatic assault rifle being used in this Newtown School attack is nothing more than dis-information. The rifle in question was NOT used in the shootings. Only hand guns were involved in any of the shooting inside of the school.

Not according to the research done by Niall Bradley, columnist at the website Veterans Today who published this article that was mentioned earlier in this thread :http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control/

Excerpt--This Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that &ldquo;Only the rifle was used on the victims&ldquo;, a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state&rsquo;s chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had &ldquo;three to 11 wounds apiece&rdquo;. He also said that the &lsquo;gunman&rsquo; used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the &lsquo;shooter&rsquo; was able to reload so quickly because he had &ldquo;taped two magazines together.&rdquo; Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.

While the media changed their story a bunch of times, this seems pretty clear that a rifle was used--now was it the bushmaster recovered from Lanza's car? Probably not. Did it come from another rifle that belonged to one of the other shooters? Most likely.

[Fred Steeves]

Related to the Sandy Hook shooting?


Body found in burned home of killer of 2 firemen
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/25/firefighters-shot-new-york-webster/1790293/

In the article....


One of the weapons recovered was a .233-caliber semiautomatic Bushmaster rifle with flash suppression, the same make and caliber gun used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings.

Perhaps a coincidence? Hmmmmm?

He had a few guns, but of course they are only focusing on this one.....for legislation purposes I imagine....

Funny, with the plethora of different rifles available on the market, the Bush Master (hmmm) seems to be the tool of choice. I just now became aware that it was used in these two other incidents we know of as well.


_ Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, a civilian version of the military's M-16 and a model commonly seen at marksmanship competitions. It's similar to the weapon used in a
recent shopping mall shooting in Oregon. Two men convicted in a series of sniper killings in the Washington, D.C.-area in 2002 also used a Bushmaster
.223-caliber rifle that they fired from the trunk of a car at randomly picked victims. Lanza was carrying multiple 30-round magazines, police said, though
higher capacity ones are available.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/adam-lanza-weapon-dc-sniper_n_2317461.html

[SilentFeathers]

This is who owns Bushmaster...


Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. is an American private equity firm.[1] The firm is based in New York City, and run by financier Steve Feinberg, who co-founded Cerberus in 1992 with William L. Richter, who currently serves as a senior managing director. The firm has affiliate and/or advisory offices in the United States, Europe and Asia.[2]
Cerberus has more than US$20 billion under management in funds and accounts. The company is a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Registered Investment Advisor.[3] Investors include prominent government and private sector pension and retirement funds, charitable foundations, university endowments, insurance companies, family savings and sovereign wealth funds.[1]
The firm's headquarters are located at 875 Third Avenue in New York City.

Cerberus is named for the mythological three-headed dog that guarded the gates of Hades.

On December 18, 2012, the company began divesting its assets in Freedom Group, makers of the AR-15 modern sporting rifle used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management



Freedom Group is an American firearms manufacturer holding company which has acquired notable brands such as Bushmaster, DPMS, and Remington Arms.[3]
Freedom Group is owned by Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity investment firm. However, on December 18, 2012, following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, Cerberus began divesting its assets in Freedom Group.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Group

There's TOO MUCH to post here about Cerberus!!!!!! Check in to it, it'll put a whole new perspective on things about these shootings......

They also own 51% of GM....the list goes on and on....

In addition to owning DynCorp International, Cerberus owns IAP Worldwide Services

HMMM? In December 2004, the company announced the acquisition of Bayer's plasma products business and renamed it Talecris Biotherapeutics. It purchased Talecris for $83m, and sold the bulk of its shares in October 2009, for a net gain of $1.8bn.

On December 22, 2011, Covis Pharma, a specialty pharmaceutical company owned by affiliates of Cerberus, announced that it had agreed to acquire full commercial rights for Fortaz (ceftazidime), Zinacef (cefuroxime), Lanoxin (digoxin), Parnate (tranylcypromine sulfate), and Zantac Injection (ranitidine hydrochloride) in the United States and Puerto Rico from GlaxoSmithKline.

This is BIGTIME stuff!


Cerberus was the offspring of Echidna, a hybrid half-woman and half-serpent, and Typhon, a fire-breathing giant whom even the Greek gods feared. Its brother is Orthrus, always depicted as a two-headed hellhound.[5] The common depiction of Cerberus in Greek mythology and art is as having three heads. In most works the three-heads each respectively see and represent the past, the present, and the future, while other sources suggest the heads represent birth, youth, and old age.[6] Each of Cerberus' heads is said to have an appetite only for live meat and thus allow only the spirits of the dead to freely enter the underworld, but allow none to leave.[7] Cerberus was always employed as Hades' loyal watchdog, and guarded the gates that granted access and exit to the underworld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus

I wonder if Dubya "Bushmaster's" family is tied to Cerberus in any way?????

[Jean-Luc]

Good common sense interview from Morris (UK) talking to 'Sarah' (US) 3 days ago.


The Americans will buy whatever official story is put out about Sandy Hook. Re the anomaly of the authorities locking up the brother of the accused assassin for his own safety. I make some wild guesses. But it is strange that he is being locked up, I wonder what he wants to say?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5-id1xbynM&list=UUweyNwo4cZM5gsIpuG4Zlew&index=1

"Most people don't think at all..."

Or perhaps rather, don't want to think anymore and just go into self-censure and hide into Newspeak "this is all once again conpirationist thinking" in order to avoid the pain of any critical thinking.

[Jean-Luc]

Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”


We're not the only one's doubting this story. See Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children... (Post #324) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=601592&viewfull=1#post601592).

The current GOP campaign finance chairman Michael Harris agrees, calling out Israel, and a current three star general chimes in saying: “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

Aha - that's the one. I posted on this thread linking to you comments about this Harris report on the other thread, before realizing just now you posted it here too.

Cool!

Although being presented as "current GOP campaign finance chairman", I don't know to what extent he is really a public figure in the US (couldn't locate his profile).

I don't recall any high profile politician making such a strong and explicit case against Israel, so quickly after 911.

In this case saying how sick he felt about the behaviour of Israel and specifically accusing, without the shadow of a doubt, the Israeli death squads involved in the Sandy Hook bloodbath.

Apparently he was joined by some in the military and other law enforcement guys:


After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

One three star general is quoted as saying,

“Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/19/super-viral-israeli-death-squads-involved-in-sandy-hook-bloodbath-intelligence-analyst/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Aslh1DebPw4

Are we changing gear? Or will this just be burried by the next staged event?

[ThePythonicCow]

Although being presented as "current GOP campaign finance chairman", I don't know to what extent he is really a public figure in the US (couldn't locate his profile).

I don't recall any high profile politician making such a strong and explicit case against Israel, so quickly after 911.
He's not that well known (as in I didn't recognize him immediately.)

Here's a brief profile for him, from http://www.renseradio.com/hosts.htm





Mike Harris

http://www.renseradio.com/harrisheadshot_001.jpg
Mike Harris spent 20 years in China and Russia and the Far East working on mergers acquisitions, specializing in technology development and transfers. He has managed projects as simple as power plants and as complex as the Pershing 2 missile. He is currently with Swiss based Adamus group, and serves on project team for the next generation $1.6 trillion dollar hyper collider. Mike is a lifelong Republican, and former candidate for governor of AZ, Mike also served as Republican Party Finance Chairman. Mike Supported Ron Paul for the 2012 primary campaign.

[ThePythonicCow]

Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”


We're not the only one's doubting this story. See Connecticut shooting 26 dead, 18 children... (Post #324) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=601592&viewfull=1#post601592).

The current GOP campaign finance chairman Michael Harris agrees, calling out Israel, and a current three star general chimes in saying: “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

There have been some follow up articles from Gordon Duff and others writing for PressTV and Veterans Today on what Mike Harris said.

The same day that Mike Harris spoke, Dec 18, Gordon Duff published an article in Iran's PressTV: Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/), presenting some of the same discrepancies we've been considering on this thread, including this description of Mike Harris' remarks:



Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US “threw them under the bus,” particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli “signature attack,” one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?”
A day or two later, Jim W. Dean, who also writes for Iran's PressTV and Veteran Times, wrote in Israel activates American 5th column for Sandy Hook damage control (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23/israel-activates-american-5th-column-for-sandy-hook-damage-control/) that:



After the Gordon Duff story started going viral, Israel then had a choice, to note the anger and repair the damage, or go after “the messenger.’ To any cop or intelligence officer, and several were consulted during the day, Israel’s behavior showed one thing. They had something to hide.
...While it is a sad fact that Israeli Intel assets are almost never prosecuted here, those that operate in the public arena are data-mined to maintain a threat profile. Thank God for the computers. What we found was that Israel had unleashed some of their fifth column assets on us. We appreciated being able to update the files.
About the same time, Jim Fetzer also writing for both Veterans Today and PressTV, wrote the article: Mossad death squads slaughtered American children at Sandy Hook (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23/mossad-death-squads-slaughtered-american-children-at-sandy-hook/):



Mike Harris of Veterans Today has exposed the pattern relating what happened there to earlier assaults: “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a ‘lone gunman’ who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children.



It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the ‘one gunman’ story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.

The most likely scenario, given what we know now, is that Adam Lanza and his mother killed the day before. Adam's body picked up by local police. He was attired in a SWAT outfit, including body armor, and stored in the school.

[Herbert]

A must listen:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AHlQlWhHg2c#!

“Drugging the brain with toxins creates the very symptoms they are supposed to cure.

Published on Dec 21, 2012

http://www.facebook.com/ConnectTheBlotsHiddenPsychPlan
"I am a Child, Adolescent and Adult Psychiatrist. I did my psychiatric residency at Lincoln Hospital and, along with my child psychology residency, also at St. Luke's Hospital of Columbia University.

I have worked with Autistic people of all ages, the Asberger's Syndrome people, Schrizophrenic people, BiPolar people, Multiple Personality Disorder people, OCD, ADD, ADHD, and pretty much every other type of labeled person in my 42+ year career since graduating from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City.

And I have never written a prescription for a psychiatric drug. Or any other type of drug, for that matter."

[ThePythonicCow]

A must listen:
Indeed - an important video.

I merged your new thread into the existing thread discussing this video at some length (see for example Post #260 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605140&viewfull=1#post605140), above.)

[ghostrider]

I would think with 27 people dead, the mainstream as they always do, would show the faces of everyone killed with music in the background, all the surviving families together telling their stories. We didn't know the 9-11 hijackers but we had 9 photos in less than a day plastered on the news. Did anyone see little bodies on stretchers being rolled out of the school ? Didn't they run a emergency drill a month ago close to there ? The whole thing stinks. They forgot the police audio telling of two or possibly three shooters, one wearing camoflage hiding in the woods behind the school. The mental state of a person is never in question, only guns . A person with mental problems doesn't need a gun, remember hijackers killed 3,000 with box cutters and two airplanes, don't we need box cutter control, and airplane control ???

[Hervé]

A must listen:
Indeed - an important video.

I merged your new thread into the existing thread discussing this video at some length (see for example Post #260 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=605140&viewfull=1#post605140), above.)

Haaahhh... that's why my post disappeared when hitting "submit reply"... there were no longer any thread to post it in... Paul, the fastest thread merger in the Whole Wild West! :)

[ghostrider]

YOU JUST MAKE NO SENSE HITTING THE PARENTS OF DEAD CHILDREN.


Alleged parents of dead children... what I've seen so far would not hold up in a court of law, what have you seen that's different?

are you emotionally attached to this idea?






When I saw this I did a double take WTF!!?



urrRcgB581w

I am doing a WTF too. I got nothing from this. Sounded like he said, "My name's Robbie Parker". It then ends. WTF?

Here's another double take....

_tmy3D6KK1Y

Wow, SG. I am glad I took the one minute to view this. It helps to explain the grin in the other vid and let us know that our eyes and bullsh!t detectors are not failing us. I hope other will spare a minute to look at this video. I don't see dead people, except in spirit.

and the kids are wearing wearing red/black/white in both photo's and the video (long known to be the colors of satanism, they are WIDELY prevalant in the musical industry with upwards of 70+% of "new artists" using these colors pirmarily).... interesting.

notice mom and dad have dark brown hair, ALL the kids have blonde hair ? I can see one or two but all three ??

[Aurvandil]

this link is to a DHS excercise manual of sorts and it does talk about using actors in these excercises. I havent read the entire manual but am combing through it now. It does say a couple times "Recruit actors and manage actor logistics (e.g., waiver forms, applying moulage)"

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://hseep.dhs.gov/hseep_Vols/security/HSEEPVolIVSecurity.aspx&sa=U&ei=ZIrQUN6QIMT9iwLrzIC4Dg&ved=0CAcQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFgmij9URsJlCgqJmg6hXUroi7esQ

This is where I found the link to the DHS manual, I dont know about the site http://www.knowthelies.com/node/8486 but I just thought it was another completely different twist on this event.


I thought I just quote the first post mentioning actors in this thread (as far as I know) and also the post that got me interested of this acting thing in several events.

I went to the first link which is the FEMA site and tried to download the info but couldn´t. The titles mentioned horrible stuff though - for example info about actors playing deceased from the use of sarin. The other site is down.

I have read the whole thread and seen the videos of the actors and of their appearances. Even if I think the whole staging of a event like this is totally terrible, the use of actors playing parents really makes me sick. :mad2:

Anyway - I found this site on another forum: http://crisisactors.org/
I thought it could be interesting to investigate. However I do not think the actors involved here are employed by this company, their part is just too shady.

[Earth Angel]

I would think with 27 people dead, the mainstream as they always do, would show the faces of everyone killed with music in the background, all the surviving families together telling their stories. We didn't know the 9-11 hijackers but we had 9 photos in less than a day plastered on the news. Did anyone see little bodies on stretchers being rolled out of the school ? Didn't they run a emergency drill a month ago close to there ? The whole thing stinks. They forgot the police audio telling of two or possibly three shooters, one wearing camoflage hiding in the woods behind the school. The mental state of a person is never in question, only guns . A person with mental problems doesn't need a gun,remember hijackers killed 3,000 with box cutters and two airplanes, don't we need box cutter control, and airplane control ???

but did they ?????

[applecrusher1992]

This video really puts together well the fact that there were multiple shooters involved.
j_fI0hm1dqY

[ThePythonicCow]

The 216.86.157.18 address appears to me to have once been the correct IP address for http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/.

According to https://dazzlepod.com/ip/?ip_address=216.86.157.18, the IP address 216.86.157.18 is for the server srv1.healthfreedomusa.org hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA.

healthfreedomusa.org appears to be on the air again, at their old IP address of 216.86.157.18, which is still a site hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA (not GoDaddy, as Dr. Rima claimed in some live video linked somewhere earlier in this thread.)

Here's a screen shot of the top of their opening page as of a few minutes ago:

http://thepythoniccow.us/healthfreedomusa.jpg
I see no mention of their recent outage (but I didn't look all that hard.)

On her backup website, www.SaveMyLifeDrRima.com, I see this graphic prominently displayed:

http://thepythoniccow.us/healthfreedomusa1.png
But again, I see no further explanation of their recent outage (though again I didn't look all that hard.)

For my tastes, there is a bit too much dramatizing the outage, seeking donations and selling product, and too little (none that I noticed) straight talk about what went down.

Combined with the initially rather confusingly deceptive claim to be Adam Lanza's Doctor (not actually true) ... I am sensing that we just took a big swing at a well thrown spit ball (American baseball talk.)

[Gardener]

Paul.....>
Combined with the initially rather confusingly deceptive claim to be Adam Lanza's Doctor (not actually true) ... I am sensing that we just took a big swing at a well thrown spit ball (American baseball talk.)

There is nothing genuine about the whole set up......false flag, attention grabbing, or marketing.

[RampartRanger]

I am actually from Connecticut, and have lived here all my life. While I am as open to speculation about the details of what happened here, as I would any other event of note, I also am keenly aware not to project and look for shadowy figures and grand conspiracies with every wrong doing and tragedy. I can assure you there are a multitude of grieving parents who's real children really died, as is apparent with the endless *local* and not national press coverage. Plus being the tiny state that it is, it isn't hard to go there and see for yourself...

likely because some jerk off needed to take his issues out on a bunch of first graders. There are time when tragedies and crimes are simply that. I will be the first to admit that we are rarely if ever told the full story on just about anything through the media or our educational system, but from what I can tell, this one seems fairly straight forward.....so far anyway. Things could always change...

No disrespect, but what first hand or second hand evidence do you have to support your assurance that the Sandy Hook children actually died? You didn’t really provide any real reason to believe you…which isn’t necessarily a negative thing depending on your intentions but this website is about inquiry where phrases that ring of “rest assured” followed by “just look at the TV” -type statements aren’t going to make the contributions that sow enlightenment. This is not to say that you must not have evidence because of your omission of it from this above post…so if you have more to share (seeing as your assurance would seem to also have some well-sourced [evidence-based, hopefully] confidence), please do so. If you genuinely hold the beliefs you state in your above post and want to give that post credibility, please give us some hard evidence.

I concur with Paul that “Nayirah” is not Arden Wohl. That picture he posted of Arden shows her nose is much too pointy to be Nayirah.

SilverFeathers, that video showing the Gifford’s shooting “actors” along with the Sandy Hook “actors” seems like different people to me. You could make the case for the dude being the same but just heavier-set as the Gifford’s shooting “actor”, but the woman really looks different to me. Sure they’re quite similar, but, being the young buck I am, would say the Sandy Hook “actor” mom is more attractive to me than the Gifford "actor" mom. Forgive my humor…

I’m not convinced about the Phelps/Sexton connection, but I am convinced that Emily Parker’s dad is one f-ed up man regardless of whether he is an actor or a father. I could see it either way…he was an actor getting ready for his big moment and soon to be had nefarious paycheck, or he is a sick attention seeking and capitalizing father getting ready for his big moment and soon to be had interview paychecks and other MSM “perks” like his soon to be released how-to book deal titled “How to Smile and Laugh on TV Just After Your Child Has Been Murdered”. After the mysterious laughter and smiles, those deep breathes and other mannerisms/his "getting into the moment" just scream "this is my big moment" no matter how you dice it. WTH is going on with this dude is one giant enigma in itself. Someone needs to interview him with a fine tooth comb...but it won't happen, I'm sure...and that won't stop him from writing his book which will be a best seller and praised for it's "heart-wrenching insight on the pandemic of violence in America".

[heyokah]

healthfreedomusa.org appears to be on the air again, at their old IP address of 216.86.157.18, which is still a site hosted by Steadfast Networks in Chicago, Illinois, USA (not GoDaddy, as Dr. Rima claimed in some live video linked somewhere earlier in this thread.)

...
For my tastes, there is a bit too much dramatizing the outage, seeking donations and selling product, and too little (none that I noticed) straight talk about what went down.

Combined with the initially rather confusingly deceptive claim to be Adam Lanza's Doctor (not actually true) ... I am sensing that we just took a big swing at a well thrown spit ball (American baseball talk.)


****

4 hours ago Dr Rima put this video on her Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/RimaELaibowMD

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[ThePythonicCow]

4 hours ago Dr Rima put this video on her Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/RimaELaibowMD
That was a good video - thanks.

[Referee]

This is 100% disinfo this is very obvious to me I only need top watch 4 mins.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is 100% disinfo this is very obvious to me I only need top watch 4 mins.

Pray tell to what do you respond?

[Referee]

I was too quick to judge, The Doctor's rebuttle. At first I felt as If she was feeding ther confusion angle I was wrong.

[Gekko]

The attached image should be a full stop for most people, along with the slogan.

My BS detectors were going off incessantly during both videos. Not the logic of what she was saying, but the context she was placing it in, with her as the beleaguered, all-knowing knight in shining armor at the head of the "war".

OK, so we have a self-proclaimed messiah promoting a tastily black-and-white, exaggerated, and sensationalized version of the truth. Pressing all the well-known ideological buttons. Haven't we seen this all before?

She will only use the truth insofar as it fits her agenda. When the shades of grey become relevant, they will be cast aside.

The enemy of your enemy isn't automatically your friend.

[Salv8tion]

This video really puts together well the fact that there were multiple shooters involved.
j_fI0hm1dqY

This was honestly the worst video I've seen regarding this event. ALL of this information can be found in the VT articles, instead of waiting for this guy to drone on and on in slow motion.

[Gardener]

You are right Paul, that was a very good video, or was it very clever. IDK something just doesn't seem right about it, maybe I am just too suspicious these days.


4 hours ago Dr Rima put this video on her Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/RimaELaibowMD
That was a good video - thanks.

[RunningDeer]

"The 5 Big Lies"

SaveMyLifeDrRima.com (http://savemylifedrrima.com)

This image is added for visitors to Project Avalon.
It's a good visual picture on what or where to begin their research for themselves and family.

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Photoshop/5-big-lies.JPG

[RunningDeer]

YOU JUST MAKE NO SENSE HITTING THE PARENTS OF DEAD CHILDREN.


Alleged parents of dead children... what I've seen so far would not hold up in a court of law, what have you seen that's different?

are you emotionally attached to this idea?






When I saw this I did a double take WTF!!?



urrRcgB581w

I am doing a WTF too. I got nothing from this. Sounded like he said, "My name's Robbie Parker". It then ends. WTF?

Here's another double take....

_tmy3D6KK1Y

Wow, SG. I am glad I took the one minute to view this. It helps to explain the grin in the other vid and let us know that our eyes and bullsh!t detectors are not failing us. I hope other will spare a minute to look at this video. I don't see dead people, except in spirit.

and the kids are wearing wearing red/black/white in both photo's and the video (long known to be the colors of satanism, they are WIDELY prevalant in the musical industry with upwards of 70+% of "new artists" using these colors pirmarily).... interesting.

notice mom and dad have dark brown hair, ALL the kids have blonde hair ? I can see one or two but all three ??


notice mom and dad have dark brown hair, ALL the kids have blonde hair ? I can see one or two but all three ??

My mom had blonde hair when she was young, i.e. into her early teens, my dad was brown. Six out of eight siblings had blonde hair. Some of us stayed blonde into our late teens and early twenties. Also this mom and dad may have dyed their hair to cover the grays.

[RampartRanger]

Both my parents are brunettes and all of my siblings but one had blonde hair from birth until adolescence...of course we are now all brunettes.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Not sure if these have been posted but i find it stunning that not a single tear is shed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_b9hh2lp3I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVKu4_JxcE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KDZQ10c8O4

And that owl drawing (Moloch? ) is just WEIRD.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

wow! also there was a drill going on at the same time for this scenario. sound familiar?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6oy7zIaGA&list=UUqMQjMql9vsQEoMRurYhMIQ&index=1

[RampartRanger]

I still don't know what to think of the supposed "actors". Are these people in some super intense shock from this horrible event and from being in a society that is overly tolerant and desensitized to violence? Maybe, but why is not ONE crying? I can imagine only those with brave souls and strong hearts would choose to be interviewed, but couldn't we expect at least one single tear? Not to be sexist, but how can not a single of those women cry after such an emotional, traumatizing event? It just doesn't make sense...maybe they cried themselves out, NOT! People can cry about something for decades. The videos are right, I really didn't see one tear. Yes, I did see most of the obvious mannerisms of grief...besides tears.

If not explained by some incredibly deep shock, it's as if a whole cast of actor families were rehearsed for "showtime"...but how can these teenagers be in on the conspiracy unless they are actually prisoners of some sort (you probably can't trust a teenager with a conspiracy unless you completely control their life)...or as if a small community of people are all under mind-control and actually fooled on some level into believing they lost a daughter, son, sibling, or wife, yet on another level they cannot believe it so they are unable to make themselves cry.

Something is fishy...I'm crying more than these people and I'm over a thousand miles away and am not even a parent.

[RampartRanger]

And for the record, the most damning revelations about Sandy Hook so far to this skeptic are:

1. The news report rumor of the supposed rifle of the shooting being found in the car instead of near the shooter.
2. The news report evidence of the supposed man (or was there even two men) in the woods with the one placed in the front of the squad car after being found, handcuffed, and telling parents that he "didn't do it" repeatedly. This is of course supported by police radio evidence.
3. The police radio evidence of the call to announce more potential suspects, namely the one potentially dressed in a nun outfit.
4. The internet rumor of a town rumor that someone inside the school saw at least one person dressed as a nun or a priest.
5. The odd reactions of the supposed relatives of supposed victims.
6. The rumor that the shooter's mother was a "prepper".
7. The VA rumor that the shooter's mother was CIA among others involved and/or knowingly participating in the plot.
8. The proliferation of child sex rings in the USA with tentacles reaching into Connecticut.

[RunningDeer]

I still don't know what to think of the supposed "actors". Are these people in some super intense shock from this horrible event and from being in a society that is overly tolerant and desensitized to violence? Maybe, but why is not ONE crying? I can imagine only those with brave souls and strong hearts would choose to be interviewed, but couldn't we expect at least one single tear? Not to be sexist, but how can not a single of those women cry after such an emotional, traumatizing event? It just doesn't make sense...maybe they cried themselves out, NOT! People can cry about something for decades. The videos are right, I really didn't see one tear. Yes, I did see most of the obvious mannerisms of grief...besides tears.

If not explained by some incredibly deep shock, it's as if a whole cast of actor families were rehearsed for "showtime"...but how can these teenagers be in on the conspiracy unless they are actually prisoners of some sort (you probably can't trust a teenager with a conspiracy unless you completely control their life)...or as if a small community of people are all under mind-control and actually fooled on some level into believing they lost a daughter, son, sibling, or wife, yet on another level they cannot believe it so they are unable to make themselves cry.

Something is fishy...I'm crying more than these people and I'm over a thousand miles away and am not even a parent.

Hello RampartRanger,

When I lost my son, I wept, and wept, screamed, and choked and punched pillows, hid under the covers, and wept some more. When I was with others, in part I stayed strong for them and also early on I was in shock. Only silence was my healer, when my mind came back on line, I wanted to die.

With that said, there's no way I could stand in front of a mike and speak to a crowd. This event has me baffled. Neither story surprises me. I'm not putting too much energy into because there's nothing I can change here.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Earth Angel]

I agree WCBD, when my family lost my young brother there was no way on earth we could have or would have talked to camera's about it......we were a complete and utter mess for weeks.....(years actually) but learned to function in public.......something is really wrong with this whole story

[Hervé]

[...]

8. The proliferation of child sex rings in the USA with tentacles reaching into Connecticut.

Cough... cough... cough... errr... that's where it actually started:


For some of the history of how this sad state of affairs originated, see this thread: POLICE STATE? How it came about in the US of A (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26195-POLICE-STATE-How-it-came-about-in-the-US-of-A)

... where you could learn a few things from "A History of Skull and Bones Rituals Recalled From their Own Archives" such as :


The next standard ritual in the 1920’s was for them to sacrifice a young white girl who was a virgin by first gang raping her and then cutting out her heart and eating it raw. The girl captured was often the daughter of their father’s business competitor to help cut off his blood line. These were girls that they saw at cotillions in the hey days of the 1920’s when girls were no longer well chaperoned. The Bonesmen voted on who they wanted to capture, often deciding on 2-3 girls and abducting them over the course of a year. Because they wanted a sex slave to have sex with during the whole year, they went to abducting 2 and sacrificing one quickly and enslaving the other. She was then sacrificed when they got tired of her, and another girl was abducted. In about 1926, one girl escaped after a two-month long episode of being raped nightly and went to the police. Her wealthy family accompanied her. The Bonesmen, on discovering that, used their powerful contacts to call in the National Guard. The police station was set on fire and burned down with the girl, the family, and the police inside! The young men were told by their Bonesmen elders to be more careful; the locks on the crypt were redone. For a few days after that, the diary entries were morose again—some of the men had had their allowance cut because they had “gotten caught”. There was no moral embarrassment at the deed of enslaving the girl, only at the work their parents had had to go to in order to clean up the problem.

After that, the Bonesmen fathers picked who was allowed to be in charge of the policemen in the neighborhood of Yale and eventually in the whole state, just for good measure. After a Harvard girl of very wealthy parents disappeared into the crypt in about 1932, never to be seen again alive, the fathers extended their coverage to Massachusetts. By the end of WWII, they bragged that they had 24 States sewn up against possible murder reports originating from their activities that included drug running and the stealing of girls to sell into sexual slavery. Because the stealing and selling of American children as sex slaves increased, they needed more men to do the kidnapping and transporting of them. It was also helpful to have a border with another country close by to skip over, if one side got onto you.


...or



[...] They practice Christianity with their lips, and Satanism by their deeds. Some of them are mind controlled into amnesia by the trauma and drugs at the initial ceremony and do not even know later that they are Satanists. Others do know. I would say that about 20 percent are fully aware that what they are doing is evil and wrong and just don't know how to stop it. About 50% know what they are doing but deny that it is evil. They excuse it as their right to be pagan and uninhibited. Then about 10 percent are full multiples and are clueless in their overt personality as to what they are doing in their covert personalities. Then about another 20 percent are too lazy and apathetic to think about what they are doing. They are just doing it because others do it. (See the last section below “Protecting yourself from blackmail”, if you have fallen into one of these traps).

The CIA did find methods to make over 90% of people criminals without a discernible conscience. They started with the basic Skull and Bone’s ritual and had already made some improvements in it by the time Rodman Rockefeller tasked me to look into the issue. He was not happy with the almost 10% failure rate. Ops were run on Congressmen, CEO’s, and foreign dignitaries. Having to kill 10% of them soon after inviting them to a “DC Party” was a high security risk--- someone might notice and leak that to a part of the press which was not well controlled. So, Rodman was very anxious that the “failure rate”get below 5%.



PS: You know where Yale is located, right? Well, just in case:

Yale University

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yale University is an American private (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_university) Ivy League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League) research university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education#Doctorate-granting_Universities) located in New Haven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven,_Connecticut), Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut). Founded in 1701 in the Colony of Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_Connecticut), the university is the third-oldest institution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Colonial_Colleges) of higher education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education) in the United States.

The University's assets include an endowment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_endowment) valued at $19.4 billion as of 2011[update] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yale_University&action=edit),[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University#cite_note-11) the second-largest of any academic institution in the world. Yale's system of more than two dozen libraries holds 12.5 million volumes.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University#cite_note-12) 49 Nobel Laureates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize) have been affiliated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation) with the University as students, faculty, and staff. Yale has produced many notable alumni, including five U.S. Presidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_education), 19 U.S. Supreme Court Justices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States), and several foreign heads of state. Yale Law School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_Law_School) is particularly well-regarded and the most selective law school in the United States.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_University#cite_note-13)

[gooty64]

It's been a week since this Idaho Picked dude claimed he could expose TPTWTB!
Was there ever any follow-up from the Idaho Picker guy? Or has he been disappeared?


Idahopicker is going to announce something big should be today I am hearing it will blow the doors off the PTWTB.

As soon as I see it I will post here is a teaser.

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[Referee]

It's been a week since this Idaho Picked dude claimed he could expose TPTWTB!
Was there ever any follow-up from the Idaho Picker guy? Or has he been disappeared?


Idahopicker is going to announce something big should be today I am hearing it will blow the doors off the PTWTB.


As soon as I see it I will post here is a teaser

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Sorry all I spent several days with family in an area with no internet service. It has taken me a while to catch up. Here is some new info thanks for the reminder Gooty! I think I will try to send him a message to see if there will be a more complete video. He figures there may be possible false flags in NJ/NY areasYGLP0w6TMI

[Akasha]

Anyone familiar with this (http://crisisactors.org) site? It's called crisisactors.org. It's homepage catchphrase is:


Helping schools and first responders create realistic drills, full-scale exercises, high-fidelity simulations, and interactive 3D films.

One of the Youtube comments for the "Sandy Hook actors PART 3" video (shared in post 310 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=607334&viewfull=1#post607334) by EyesWide Open) suggests the person being interviewed from 10.07 - 10.38 is crisisactor.org actor, Allen Hernandez (http://crisisactors.org/profile/AllanHernandez).

Here (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3375933696/nm5282505)'s his IMDB profile which has 19 photos of him.

Maybe it's nothing but I thought I'd share it just in case.

[Aurvandil]

Anyone familiar with this (http://crisisactors.org) site? It's called crisisactors.org. It's homepage catchphrase is:


Helping schools and first responders create realistic drills, full-scale exercises, high-fidelity simulations, and interactive 3D films.

One of the Youtube comments for the "Sandy Hook actors PART 3" video (shared in post 310 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=607334&viewfull=1#post607334) by EyesWide Open) suggests the person being interviewed from 10.07 - 10.38 is crisisactor.org actor, Allen Hernandez (http://crisisactors.org/profile/AllanHernandez).

Here (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3375933696/nm5282505)'s his IMDB profile which has 19 photos of him.

Maybe it's nothing but I thought I'd share it just in case.

Yes, I wrote about the site in my post #293 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=606736&viewfull=1#post606736). Thank you for writing about it too.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Anyone familiar with this (http://crisisactors.org) site? It's called crisisactors.org. It's homepage catchphrase is:


Helping schools and first responders create realistic drills, full-scale exercises, high-fidelity simulations, and interactive 3D films.

One of the Youtube comments for the "Sandy Hook actors PART 3" video (shared in post 310 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=607334&viewfull=1#post607334) by EyesWide Open) suggests the person being interviewed from 10.07 - 10.38 is crisisactor.org actor, Allen Hernandez (http://crisisactors.org/profile/AllanHernandez).

Here (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3375933696/nm5282505)'s his IMDB profile which has 19 photos of him.

Maybe it's nothing but I thought I'd share it just in case.

Yes, I wrote about the site in my post #293 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=606736&viewfull=1#post606736). Thank you for writing about it too.

Not sure its the same person? pause the video at 10:24 to get the same angle as this photo: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3728255232/nm5282505

[Referee]

Anyone familiar with this (http://crisisactors.org) site? It's called crisisactors.org. It's homepage catchphrase is:


Helping schools and first responders create realistic drills, full-scale exercises, high-fidelity simulations, and interactive 3D films.

One of the Youtube comments for the "Sandy Hook actors PART 3" video (shared in post 310 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=607334&viewfull=1#post607334) by EyesWide Open) suggests the person being interviewed from 10.07 - 10.38 is crisisactor.org actor, Allen Hernandez (http://crisisactors.org/profile/AllanHernandez).

Here (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3375933696/nm5282505)'s his IMDB profile which has 19 photos of him.

Maybe it's nothing but I thought I'd share it just in case.


Kind of odd he is dressed up like the Joker in his profile !

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2WLnNf3E0 another actor? Not convinced myself.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

This RIP. page was created 4 days before she died (if its real) http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10en883&s=6

[Akasha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2WLnNf3E0 another actor? Not convinced myself.

That looks bogus to me. Nancy Lanza looks around 40 years old (and must be considering the age of her sons.....if they are her sons!?) but the actress Lindsay Pearce looks far younger. Her IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4511269/) details confirm this by stating that her date of birth was April 30, 1991.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

somebody set up this site: http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/

[Arrowwind]

I would add that after working in hospice for quite a while and dealing with families who have lost loved ones, I can hardly believe that these "moms and dads" are for real. More typical would be moms and dads bending over wretching, holding their guts, sobbing uncontrollabley, especailly when asked to discuss the loss... that these were filmed within a week of the event is just not feasible. I dont believe it for one second.. and that one where the whole family is present with smiling faces as they discuss their daughter, a young woman, not one of the kids... just unreal to the point of surreal.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

This is getting really weird now.

Why would the crisis actors website post a video of U.S. Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan thanking the Educators of Sandy Hook Elementary?

http://crisisactors.org/video/secretary-arne-duncan-thanks-the-educators-of-sandy-hook

and then look at the other videos posted on the site too. Every single one is about guns or shootings. Perhaps the actors use these videos for watching and learning how to act? Who knows? This whole thing is odd.

[Arrowwind]

This is getting really weird now.

Why would the crisis actors website post a video of U.S. Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan thanking the Educators of Sandy Hook Elementary?

http://crisisactors.org/video/secretary-arne-duncan-thanks-the-educators-of-sandy-hook

and then look at the other videos posted on the site too. Every single one is about guns or shootings. Perhaps the actors use these videos for watching and learning how to act? Who knows? This whole thing is odd.

so are you saying that Crisis Actors organization could possibly be held suspect in making these videos of 'greiving parents"

[CdnSirian]

I honestly have to pipe in here that most actors are not working in the best of times and will go for any job that pays. They take direction well, and walk away hoping that the producers don't leave town and stiff them on their pay. Happens every day.

They, their agents/managers don't look back. On to the next. This is how they function. I don't believe there is any intent to deceive or manipulate by that level of production.

Would I do an aspirin commercial today? You betcha. But I don't use drugs. Gotta pay the rent.

The manipulation is much higher up I believe.

If this organization is involved, I would have to envy their pay checks. But wouldn't take one.

[CdnSirian]

This is getting really weird now.

Why would the crisis actors website post a video of U.S. Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan thanking the Educators of Sandy Hook Elementary?

http://crisisactors.org/video/secretary-arne-duncan-thanks-the-educators-of-sandy-hook

and then look at the other videos posted on the site too. Every single one is about guns or shootings. Perhaps the actors use these videos for watching and learning how to act? Who knows? This whole thing is odd.

That's definitely very strange.

[Kimberley]

somebody set up this site: http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/

Very interesting info at this site! I have not followed this story for the last couple of weeks and looking at this now is indeed very interesting and yet again I feel "their" plans have back fired on them because so many are questioning and do not know what is true or false. However just that so many ARE questioning is a very positive step.

This video that is at the end of the web site is very telling...:

Sandy Hook Elementary School Nurse Sally Cox EXPOSED Newtown Shooting

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And I found this one also....posted today with only 82 views...

Robbie & Emilie Parker EXPOSED Sandy Hook School Shooting Hoax FRAUD

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2013 is going to be quite the roller coaster ride....have fun with it and be prepared... not scared! :grouphug:

[RampartRanger]

Meant to post it in here since this thread seems a little more lively...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=609547&viewfull=1#post609547

[RampartRanger]

This is good:
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It proves to me that Emilie Parker wasn't a victim at Sandy Hook...unless there is confusion about which one of the daughters died; According to the video, Emilie is the oldest child on the farthest right of the family picture. Then in the pictures with Obama, it appears that the middle child is gone (my opinion, not mentioned in the video I believe). So barring some confusion that maybe Emilie Parker is the middle child (the one NOT in the Obama family picture), Emilie Parker definitely didn't die at Sandy Hook.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is getting really weird now.

Why would the crisis actors website post a video of U.S. Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan thanking the Educators of Sandy Hook Elementary?

http://crisisactors.org/video/secretary-arne-duncan-thanks-the-educators-of-sandy-hook

and then look at the other videos posted on the site too. Every single one is about guns or shootings. Perhaps the actors use these videos for watching and learning how to act? Who knows? This whole thing is odd.

That entire http://crisisactors.org site is definitely weird indeed.

It seems to be in-your-face confirmation of the training and infrastructure required to stage such crisis events as the Sandy Hook Newtown Massacre.

[ThePythonicCow]

That entire http://crisisactors.org site is definitely weird indeed.

It seems to be in-your-face confirmation of the training and infrastructure required to stage such crisis events as the Sandy Hook Newtown Massacre.
If it isn't on Youtube, it doesn't exist. Here's a CrisisActors.org Youtube:
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[Arrowwind]

Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/publicly-release-all-videos-and-information-surrounding-school-shooting-newtown-ct-clear-conflicting/7DC8Dq04

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Over on this forum: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083489/pg1
(which I dont usually read but it came up in a search) they have pretty much 100% proved some of the "families" are actors with connections to big companies. Its worth reading the whole thread.

[gooty64]

I'm banned from Golikeproductions. Can you offer a brief synopsis? Or put in a good word for me at GLP?


Over on this forum: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2083489/pg1
(which I dont usually read but it came up in a search) they have pretty much 100% proved some of the "families" are actors with connections to big companies. Its worth reading the whole thread.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

are you ip banned over there? I am not a member there but can read threads....

[gripreaper]

From Bill Coopers book, "Behold a Pale Horse" written in 1991:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix7/321245_10151321082014844_1312933419_n.jpg

[Flash]

Just to set things straight, regarding Cooper's writing in gripreaper post # 341. The women school in Canada was not a women school, it was the Engineering faculty of the University of Montreal, called École Polytechnique, having moslty male students (95%).

The women were set apart by the killer, the men sent away, and then he shot the women.

There were no actors in this one, everybody here knows the name, place of living, friends of all the victims and of the killer. Lots of us have met family members and friends throughout the next 20 years. The killer's mom came on tv 2 years ago to say how sorry she was, and that she could not ever expect her son to commit such atrocities, she is a nurse. However, the son had a difficult childhood, had applied to the Engineering school and had been rejected.

Another point, the increase of serotonine in the brain does not increases violence. It is the increase of dopamine that may induce psychotic episodes and therefore violence. I do not know if prozac works on serotonine only for sure (but I think it does) or if it works on both, serotonine and dopamine.

Many of the sites Coopers mentioned at the bottom of the article are in Canada where the laws prohibit gun ownership except if you go through a lenghty process (of course, except for mafia and drug dealers). So whatever goes on in the US does not apply much here and cannot be use 1=1 for comparisons to USA. IMHO of course.

[Mozart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ&feature=player_embedded

[Kimberley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ&feature=player_embedded

This is weirding me out... good addition Mozart. I found this also:

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so I went to the facebook Emily Parker Fund page https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund?ref=ts&fref=ts

and sure enough the page was created the day of the shooting??? With pictures posted the day of the shooting??? If you read from the bottom up the posts it is very strange indeed..

However "Emilie" in the family photo being in the same dress with Obama????

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

[Earth Angel]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/sandy-hook-kids-see-school-decked-winter-wonderland-180206033.html

Sandy Hook students to go to a new school next week as their school is still a crime scene..........has this happened with any other school shooting??? could it be they
don't want anyone to notice there is not a single bullet hole anywhere from this mass shooting ?? just a thought

[Kimberley]

This incident is so VERY weird!!! And we need to keep asking questions..a lot of questions...!!!!

Much love!!!

[Earth Angel]

was hoping to see more signatures on this ....... reading Avalon threads one gets the impression that many people are questioning the story on this shooting and it gives me hope, but seeing the signatures on this petition has me wonder, Id say most people are buying into what is being fed to them on MSM


Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/publicly-release-all-videos-and-information-surrounding-school-shooting-newtown-ct-clear-conflicting/7DC8Dq04

[Arrowwind]

was hoping to see more signatures on this ....... reading Avalon threads one gets the impression that many people are questioning the story on this shooting and it gives me hope, but seeing the signatures on this petition has me wonder, Id say most people are buying into what is being fed to them on MSM


Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.



Well people are doing what people do best. Sleeping. Wake up Avalon! dont get caught with your pants down................

[RampartRanger]

Regarding the "joined Facebook" date on the Emilie Parker Memorial FB page, something similar was noted with the Victoria Soto Memorial FB page...it said it was created sometime before December 14th. Eventually the page owner posted something saying that the page was something else before and was changed to the page it is now after the Sandy Hook event. So it must be the case that the Emilie Parker FB page was in fact created on December 14th, 2012 at 3:39 PM.
[Source: https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund/posts/137842576368192 (the page you're taken to after clicking on the date of the "recent activity: joined facebook" headline on the upper left side of her Memorial FB home page)]
The actual time is unknown to me as it does not have a timezone listed and someone in the comments section said it was actually 2:39. So I imagine that I am seeing the time as my local time, which is GMT minus 7 hours (US Mountain/Denver, CO)...or what I believe would be 5:39 PM in Connecticut.




was hoping to see more signatures on this ....... reading Avalon threads one gets the impression that many people are questioning the story on this shooting and it gives me hope, but seeing the signatures on this petition has me wonder, Id say most people are buying into what is being fed to them on MSM


Check out this peittion on the gov. website! It addresses exactly what is being discussed here.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/publicly-release-all-videos-and-information-surrounding-school-shooting-newtown-ct-clear-conflicting/7DC8Dq04

I think a lot of US citizens are waking up to the fact that the "redress of grievances" our Founding Fathers spoke of never made it too far in modern times...that is to say, asking our government of today for transparency and accountability of any kind is a complete waste of time (perfect example, Area 51). Even worse, it also puts you on the radar...the list of names in that petition could easily turn into "the list" seeing as how most signing the petition are essentially resisting by refusing to swallow the BS of TPTB.

[RampartRanger]

Long post incoming...

It seems as if TPTB have the ability to completely white-wash anything. I think it's done with fear...if you discover with definitive evidence that something like Sandy Hook was staged, you've implied that you believe someone was able and willing to plan and execute that sort of hideous plot. So the next question is begging to be asked, "What's stopping them from killing me, one whistle-blower, or the few people I might tell and empower with the same evidence I have?" The answer is obvious to any human psyche, "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is stopping them from killing me if they did THAT!" Ultimately concerned with their own safety and the safety of their loved ones, it's not hard to see why the vast majority of potential whistle-blowers might never even consider sharing their evidence and info much less going public with it. But there will be a few self-sacrificial matyrs or die-hard nothing-to-lose types who still want to blow the whistle...and they probably get the "special treatment" which likely involves everything from advanced technology to remotely control people to directly intervention with drugs, more advanced technology, and mind control techniques.

For the stories to sell to the masses, many dynamic mechanisms must be operated 24/7. On all levels of society, serious inquiries and doubts must be chastised, independent investigation must be mislead, stifled, or best yet prevented, and false enemies must be uncovered, rebuked, and killed. Of course, the icing on cake for the shadow-elite is silencing any whistle-blowers because they are the only true threat to the cover-up and could nullify all other cover-up efforts. These mechanisms and their influence do not have to be perfect because the system does the job well enough for the masses to reinforce it on almost every level of society...for example, the 9/11 truth movement has essentially failed to change anything of material because in practice the facts are nowhere near as important as the beliefs and belief system/world view held by the masses. For the 9/11 truth movement to succeed in any way, it'd have to change the belief system of millions of Americans. In a way, it has done that because it's startling inconsistencies, stark unanswered questions, and simply insane coincidences as pointed out by the movement have in fact opened the minds of at least thousands of Americans at least a little. Once that curiosity in someone takes root, if often spreads...but it often does not, given the reinforcement of the manufactured beliefs at every level. I'm sure 9/11 and it's truth movement have literally caused divorces...just like most modern conspiracies likely have (hypotheticals: husband thinks wife is literally insane for claiming to have been abducted OR wife thinks husband is insane for believing those foolish JFK conspiracies). But the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing.

Because the system is not perfect (it cannot white-wash all the details), we are left with bits and pieces of conspiracy. Alas, we can only hope that they leave us a smoking gun that can be used to wake up more people as they realized their denial is a sub-human emotion that is holding back their intellect and humanity. I always like to remind my socialite-naysayers..."There's nothing easier than saying 'no'...try saying 'yes' more often and you'll be amazed at what you may discover." Needless to say, denial (the emotion more so than the tactic) seems to be the most powerful ally of the few that look to control the many. Who the hell wants to believe that someone would stage or hoax something like what supposedly happened? Coping with what supposedly happened is difficult enough...so adding on "tearing down my worldview" seems impossible for the masses. The curious ones wonder, "What kind of world view would one have to hold to believe that this sort of massacre was staged?" In US society, no one wants to be "that guy/gal"...the one that believes what no one else (in WalMart) believes. No one wants to be the guy who is nay-saying the "official story" of any tragedy. The only nay-saying that is positively reinforced on any level of society is that which reinforces the official narratives. As George Orwell wrote, "Truth is treason in the empire of lies". In America, it may as well be social treason...and for the masses, if the people on Facebook, at the office, in school, and in the neighborhood don't like you, you might as well be convicted of treason. I'm sure the shadow-elite slap their knees till their bloody at the delightful reality that the reinforcing mechanisms acted out by most of society's players and institutions are likely the most important component of any successful coverup.

[Arrowwind]

This narrator spells it out. Ive seen more people shed more tears at the death of their cat or dog than these people did for their own kids. My stomach is turning. .. and we will lose our rights to bear arms over this bull****.
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[161803398]

" Church of Satan: PO Box 210666 San Francisco, CA 94121

If you would like to recieve an official information packet on our
Church of Satan outpost in Connecticut, (AKA Church of Tiamat) or if
you have questions, write to:

Curtis M. LeBlanc [zdervish@gnn.com]

PO Box 3184 Newtown, CT 06470"

http://www.satanservice.org/theory/coscm.txt

[Referee]

Interesting new developments concerning the Gothem City Map!

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[Arrowwind]

But the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing.

Needless to say, denial (the emotion more so than the tactic) seems to be the most powerful ally of the few that look to control the many. Who the hell wants to believe that someone would stage or hoax something like what supposedly happened? Coping with what supposedly happened is difficult enough...so adding on "tearing down my worldview" seems impossible for the masses. The curious ones wonder, "What kind of world view would one have to hold to believe that this sort of massacre was staged?" In US society, no one wants to be "that guy/gal"...the one that believes what no one else (in WalMart) believes. No one wants to be the guy who is nay-saying the "official story" of any tragedy. The only nay-saying that is positively reinforced on any level of society is that which reinforces the official narratives. As George Orwell wrote, "Truth is treason in the empire of lies". In America, it may as well be social treason...and for the masses, if the people on Facebook, at the office, in school, and in the neighborhood don't like you, you might as well be convicted of treason. I'm sure the shadow-elite slap their knees till their bloody at the delightful reality that the reinforcing mechanisms acted out by most of society's players and institutions are likely the most important component of any successful coverup.

This is an extremely eloquent and poignant piece of writing, RampartRanger, and I know what you speak of first hand as I went about years ago trying to tell those around me the false flag that I knew 9/11 to be the conditions to advancement to war was certainly a crime founded upon another very dark crime. I was a traitor and could feel the shame of it projected upon me from those who sounded the battle cry of patriotism under their fear of terrorism.

Tonight as I deal with my gut and the anxiety that Im feeling after coming to the realization that this Sandy Hook event was a manufactured false flag event that once again I am also taken with nebulous feelings of guilt, just like what I use to feel when I was a child, when my whole body would be filled with anxiety and guilt and ultimately shame for some crime that I didnt understand, that i might have committted against the forces of goodness (control) that were attempting to shape my life. Not being a good girl, and the ensuing shame was almost more than I could bea, so I would run and hide beneath the blankets, till eventually things would fade underneath the passage of time.l denial would finally cloak me and enfold me, giving the sense of at least a temporay stability and safety that I could cling to and from where I could focus upon redirecting my reality into a new level of delusion, a deep deep pretendment, allowing me once again to breath freely and know that, regardless of all else, mommy will always love me.

Coming to terms with 9/11 was somehow easier than this Sandy Hook. I did that early on, actually in the first week or so and the ensuing revelations that came over the years of the events that actually did unfold were taken with a callousness that the wound that last week of September 2001 had put upon me.


But this Sandy Hook has brought a new intensity of realization of what lies before us and the knot in my gut grows ever tighter tonight and I dont know if sleep will come. It is surely longed for. Its a lonely path to see what others will not and to understand the implications of the loss of freedom and to see those busy with life around me who do not know what fate that awaits their children and their grandchildren. For my own self I care not so much but I guess that is somewhat of a lie, for I know that I am my children's children, so their fate is mine and the damage done will not be undone for many many generations.

So one comes to the point of determination. Will you cast all to the wind to save yourself, your family, and to hold to the reality that is not what is actually upon you, but is that which you dream and long for? Will you subject yourself to prison, to financial ruin, to separation and degradation for the work at hand? Will your efforts matter? Are you throwing your lifes energy to the impossible as well as the enivitable destruction of all that you have held presicous to just preserve that sweet taste of freedom in your soul? or will you allow the dark depths of denial to settle in and take root in your mind, to guide your tongue, to direct your steps, to smother your vision, to deaden your spirit, to sell your very soul, for to push down the pain is such a sweet sweet relief, so that you might learn to smile again?

If you believe alone, and you know alone, it becomes a single vision against the world and you will be considered insane and you will find no repose in what the world has given you and your silence will grow when faced with those who have long bought the lie and who have never tasted freedom and you know that they are no longer fully human and you think you may be joining them.

It is this collective state of mind since 9/11, enveloped in denial, and the twinges of anxiety that sometimes leak out though the cracks of our sanity, I cannot help but believe that the masses are ever so silently, pretending, ever so sweetly, walking so willingly into their slaverly and I doubt my ability or anyone's ability to change a thing.

But I must try and to do so I must put aside these dark murmerings and really get good at pretending in the light instead of the dark. It is the fate of every great warrior who knows that his enemy is much much greater than she.

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[161803398]

Someone sent that little girl out to have her picture taken with Obama so that people would know it was a lie. Or was that just a mistake.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

From another forum:



And, without further ado - the indomitable Jennifer Greenberg Sexton and Richard Sexton/ Laura and Nick Phelps duo -

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/phepleimposters2_zps63333b45.png

[Fred Steeves]

Someone sent that little girl out to have her picture taken with Obama so that people would know it was a lie. Or was that just a mistake.

You know, shaking my head as I write this, I can't help but think that we are entering the time when the energy behind this WANTS us to know, WANTS to be recognized for it's "handiwork". And most of all, WANTS us to feel powerless, in that there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

The ultimate power trip, like O'Brian says to Winston Smith in 1984:



"But always – do not forget this, Winston – always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever."

[SilentFeathers]

You know, shaking my head as I write this, I can't help but think that we are entering the time when the energy behind this WANTS us to know, WANTS to be recognized for it's "handiwork". And most of all, WANTS us to feel powerless, in that there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

The ultimate power trip, like O'Brian says to Winston Smith in 1984:



"But always – do not forget this, Winston – always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever."


Or they just don't care either way any more....they would love nothing more for the population to take a stand so they could mow us down like the useless eater stupid sheep that they think we are (which in fact they probably would get away with doing that too) at least for a while.

Soon the people will only have a few single shot shotguns, bb guns, and rocks to fight back with......(not a chance in hell against a high tech army or police force)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fred, I seriously think it's too far gone now and will take a generation or quite a few more generations to fix the damage done. Too many people are just simply brain-dead and don't have a clue.

The writing is on the wall, most just are too dumb/ignorant to read it....

All the 2012 etc., hupla about the grand awakening is a smokescreen for the "Grand Hypnotic & Brainwashing Coma".....

[Jean-Luc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ&feature=player_embedded

A quite good video indeed.
As days are passing by, I have a feel that the information is being treated more and more professionnaly by conscious/awaken/concerned citizens.That's the way to go.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ
28.000 views so far.

For the majority of people, the 911 truth is still, from a psychological point of view, a repressed feeling. We are really living in a psychotic society.

But besides all the debunking and the media hype, still many people have come accross the information.

So this new stage event is not falling on bare soil.

With that I disagree with the above statement from RampantRanger that "the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing." (Post 350) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=610003&viewfull=1#post610003)


The "Internet memory" and "global citizen intelligence" is looking at the whereabouts of the international mafia/global elite straight in the eyes. And as always, they are making many mistakes.

I believe that as more irrefutable elements keep building up in this new weird staged event, once they are presented the right way from various high quality sources, there is a definite possibility that it can lead to some chain reaction.

Eventhough one can sometimes doubt it given the way so many people are still hypnotized by the MSM, at the end of the day people are no idiots.

There is a learning curve (despite the media constant straight jacket effect). And perhaps/hopefully, a 100th monkey effect.

There is no reason for despair.

[jackovesk]

RealTime Jim Stone – Superintendent shutters “Narrows school” due to bat man reference by Jim Stone Freelance Journalist

A school superintendent shut down his school because it was referenced along with Sandy Hook in the same bat man movie, and he believed that made it a strong possibility that another staged school shooting would happen there. The info on this is really sparse right now, but I have seen references that the actual school is on the map in the bat man movie.

This really bodes well for us, I’d call it a victory won. There is something spurious about this that is unconfirmed – that there may have been a date set and the superintendent learned the date and shuttered the school. From the way things are going, this appears to be what actually happened.

This is the e-mail that notified me of this:


From Martin

Narrows High School matches Dark Knight Rises Gotham Map for Narrows. The location for Strike Zone 2 has been identified! It’s the Narrows High School in Virginia. The superintendent has closed the school district in an emergency announcement…

After receiving this e-mail, I found this, and it's proof positive. It's the letter from the superintendent of the school, posted on the Narrows High School (http://nhs.gilesk12.org/)web site. If you click the link, this letter is in a PDF that is linked in big red letters "notice from superintendent".


January 1, 2013

Dear Parents/Guardians:On the evening of Dec. 27th, 2012, the Giles County Sheriff’s Department, the Town of Narrows police department, and the Giles County Schools, were notified by the Va. State police regarding information on a web-site. This web-site discussed the shootings that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut.

Included in this discussion on the web-site was how “Sandy Hook” was referenced in the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rising.” This reference was in a map that appeared in a scene in this movie. Another zone on this map appearing in the movie was “Narrows.”

The author, who posted this article, did an online Google search based “on a hunch” for “Narrows Schools.” From this search, information for Narrows Elementary/Middle School and Narrows High School appeared.

Based on this information, we have been in communication with our local law enforcement officials (i.e. – the Sheriff’s Department and Town of Narrows police) to discuss this issue further. Additional precautions have been taken for the immediate future and additional safeguards will be installed at each of our facilities in the near future.

Again, please realize that there were no specific threats made against any of our schools in Giles County. However, based on this information, we are working with our local law enforcement officials to continue to ensure the safety of our students and our staff members.

If you have any questions, please contact your child(s) school or the Giles

County School Board office.

Sincerely,

Dr. Terry E. Arbogast, II
Superintendent

PDF: http://sbo.gilesk12.org/notice/notice1113.pdf

Website: http://nhs.gilesk12.org/

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

[161803398]

You know, shaking my head as I write this, I can't help but think that we are entering the time when the energy behind this WANTS us to know, WANTS to be recognized for it's "handiwork". And most of all, WANTS us to feel powerless, in that there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

I think that about the magic bullet theory and I think that about Mohammed Atta's passport and 9/11 in general. But they said and did those that with a great deal of contempt for people and the stories are so obviously ridiculous. But for some reason I dont feel quite the same about this one because it is, after all, solid proof of the bull**** along with her father grinning his face off. Maybe its just my imagination. But there is something that still bothers me about Obama in the sense that I don't always feel he is totally with this agenda. I remember he looked like a whipped puppy, to me, anyway, when he talked about having killed Osama. Lately, he has mentioned something to the effect that he doesn't know if he is going to be president for the next four years. On the other hand, there is also the energy from the universe that could be creeping in. Or, you are right and I am so used to what I perceive as the utter contempt of the PTB that this one only seems a little different because it isn't quite as blatant because it looks like a possible mistake or a mistake on purpose. Or perhaps, I believe there still might be some smart, good person around who hasn't yet sold himself out. On the other hand, maybe they do just not care at all anymore. Its hard to say. I also have the feeling that they are set to go on Iran so maybe that's it. Maybe its game over. The Muslim rednecks in the middle east have recently been calling for the deaths of people again and seem set to go.

[gripreaper]

This web-site discussed the shootings that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Included in this discussion on the web-site was how “Sandy Hook” was referenced in the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rising.” This reference was in a map that appeared in a scene in this movie. Another zone on this map appearing in the movie was “Narrows.” The author, who posted this article, did an online Google search based “on a hunch” for “Narrows Schools.” From this search, information for Narrows Elementary/Middle School and Narrows High School appeared.
What's interesting is that this shows that people are waking up and that they recognize there is a very deep evil that will stop at nothing to set the agenda and attempt to steer the discourse and direction of events, and the people are seeing the discrepancies and not buying it.

The 9-11 questions still remain and continue, even with massive effort to keep it quiet. Good on ya people for seeing the truth!

[edit]

You've also seen the video where they roll out all the celebrities who are shills for gun control, juxtaposed against the violent movie scenes they act in? And the FU message? People need to stop going to the movies and supporting these clowns.

[SilentFeathers]

This web-site discussed the shootings that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Included in this discussion on the web-site was how “Sandy Hook” was referenced in the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rising.” This reference was in a map that appeared in a scene in this movie. Another zone on this map appearing in the movie was “Narrows.” The author, who posted this article, did an online Google search based “on a hunch” for “Narrows Schools.” From this search, information for Narrows Elementary/Middle School and Narrows High School appeared.
What's interesting is that this shows that people are waking up and that they recognize there is a very deep evil that will stop at nothing to set the agenda and attempt to steer the discourse and direction of events, and the people are seeing the discrepancies and not buying it.

The 9-11 questions still remain and continue, even with massive effort to keep it quiet. Good on ya people for seeing the truth!

[edit]

You've also seen the video where they roll out all the celebrities who are shills for gun control, juxtaposed against the violent movie scenes they act in? And the FU message? People need to stop going to the movies and supporting these clowns.

This is actually in the mainstream news:


Virginia officials cancel classes in Narrows after website connects town with Batman movie and Newtown shooting
Giles County Public Schools said they reviewed the article, published on RevelationNow.net, and decided to suspend school on Wednesday as a precaution. No actual threats were received, officials said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/virginia-school-district-cancels-classes-batman-newtown-link-article-1.1231394

Let's wait and see if this superintendent is labeled and quack and conspiracy theorist and hauled off somewhere to be injected with psychiatric drugs because of his mental problems......He must be insane to be able to connect a few dots together and think for himself! :)

[161803398]

It could be something like that Stanley Kubrick movie where they wake the guy up before they execute him.

[gripreaper]

Let's wait and see if this superintendent is labeled and quack and conspiracy theorist and hauled off somewhere to be injected with psychiatric drugs because of his mental problems......He must be insane to be able to connect a few dots together and think for himself! :)

Dr. Terry E. Arbogast, II, Superintendent has earned my respect and honor. He is willing to risk it all for the children. We should do the same.

[SilentFeathers]

Perhaps this is just a distraction since the MSM is now focusing on it so much,

From freedictionary.com

Nar·rows (nrz)
A strait of southeast New York between Brooklyn and Staten Island in New York City and connecting Upper and Lower New York Bay. The Narrows is spanned by the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, one of the longest suspension bridges in the world.

An interesting read....

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verrazano-Narrows_Bridge

Note: The bridge's opening is fictionalized as the "Amerigo-Columbus Bridge" in the 1966 "The Bookworm Turns" episode of Batman using news footage of the actual bridge opening.

...an episode about a "false flag" event of course!



The Bookworm Turns (Plot)

By staging a fake assassination attempt on Commissioner Gordon during the dedication ceremony of the new Amergio Bridge, the villainous Bookworm lures Batman and Robin to Police Headquarters; meanwhile, his moll, Lydia Limpet, plants a book-bomb in the Batmobile. Discovering that Gordon is in fact alive, Batman is alerted to the threat by the Batmobile Bomb Detector, and manages to use the vehicle’s Radiocontrolled Ejector Button to propel the device into the air where it explodes harmlessly. Finding a literary clue in the book-bomb's cover, the Dynamic Duo deduce that the bookish crook is planning to blow up the new bridge. However, the term "blow-up" is a photographic one, as the Bookworm merely projects a huge image of the bridge onto a warehouse wall; Batman and his trusty chum trace the image to a giant projector mounted on top of a nearby bookmobile, and promptly engage the Bookworm and his henchmen, Printer's Devil, Typesetter, and Pressman, in a fight But the villains escape, leaving behind a bound and gagged Lydia inside the bookmobile; our two heroes are suspicious, and so knock out the gorgeous gal with Batgas and then take her back to the Batcave, where they use the Hypermetric Lie-Detector to try and discover the literary loon’s plot. However, the clues that Lydia gives them are lies, setting the scene for Bookworm’s deadly trap…

ADDED:
What's up with all this stuff being related/connected somehow to "Batman"? freaking weird!!!!!

Amazing what a little digging can do to the imagination.....but I must say I don't believe much in coincidences :) Especially in "Mass Coincidences"!

[Kimberley]

I posted this on another thread on Dec 15th..some of you may have seen it however I am sure others did not...

********

From a freind of mine, Kevin Fitzgerald...that I totally agree with.


"This post is in response to all those who ask, why did God allow the murder of innocent children?

The answer is, God had nothing to do with it. It is important to see the Big picture and try to understand this horrendous event from a soul perspective.

All the children that passed were Angelic pure souls with no karma of their own.

Before they incarnated, potentials were planned in order for them to fulfill their soul missions. Humanity is at a cross roads and is shifting to a Heart centered consciousness.

These children decided at the level of Soul to allow this experience to happen and sacrifice their lives. Why?

Because it is sending such a powerful rippling effect throughout all of humanity causing people to go Within and ask the deep questions about the purpose of life.

This was a selfless choice made because of the love these souls have for humanity. They are celebrating again in the Angel Realms and are at peace.

Lets not let their sacrifice be in vain and lets choose to Love and forgive and open our Hearts to receive Divine Grace and change the consciousness the pervades this world that cherishes violence, fear and separation.

Please repost this and help heal the broken hearts out there if this message resonates as Truth to you. It is not my message but Spirit's and it comes from the Highest Sources.

We are all loved deeply, Amen"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=599547&viewfull=1#post599547

*****************************

And I post this again because I chose to see all of the good around this event. I see so many questioning what is and why. Myself included.

The Emilie photo with her family and then on President Obamas lap 2 days later really got me shaking my head in utter jaw dropping fashion....

The closing of the "Narrows" school is a step forward and indicates that we the people are catching on to seeing that the information of what is being planned is revealed ahead of time (just as it was for 9/11 also). So good on "us" who see these things... That is progress!!

From where I sit I see so many kind compassionate and aware humans all over the planet. And I bump into more all of the time, everyday. I see progress in a forward positive way every day.

I am excited to see what happens next. My eyes are set on the freedom we have in store for us as new technologies are revealed and released that will end war, promote peace, feed the starving and heal the diseased. Such as the work of Mr Keshe and the Keshe foundation.


I like what a lot of you have written here....And I like what Jean-Luc wrote a lot:



As days are passing by, I have a feel that the information is being treated more and more professionnaly by conscious/awaken/concerned citizens.That's the way to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ 28.000 views so far.
[/I]
For the majority of people, the 911 truth is still, from a psychological point of view, a repressed feeling. We are really living in a psychotic society.

But besides all the debunking and the media hype, still many people have come across the information.

So this new stage event is not falling on bare soil.

With that I disagree with the above statement from RampantRanger that "the 9/11 truth movement like most fringe activism has not changed the beliefs of the masses and therefore has changed nothing." (Post 350) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=610003&viewfull=1#post610003)


The "Internet memory" and "global citizen intelligence" is looking at the whereabouts of the international mafia/global elite straight in the eyes. And as always, they are making many mistakes.

I believe that as more irrefutable elements keep building up in this new weird staged event, once they are presented the right way from various high quality sources, there is a definite possibility that it can lead to some chain reaction.

Eventhough one can sometimes doubt it given the way so many people are still hypnotized by the MSM, at the end of the day people are no idiots.

There is a learning curve (despite the media constant straight jacket effect). And perhaps/hopefully, a 100th monkey effect.

There is no reason for despair.


I say we are making great progress and that what you see is what you get. I chose to keep my eyes on all that IS happening for the betterment of humanity and bless all those that have agreed to participate in this game whatever way they have chosen to participate.


Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[RampartRanger]

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[Earth Angel]

I understand that there is the site called crisisactors.org and that these people may have been participating in this Sandy Hook event without knowing it was going to be passed off as real....but people know these actors and what they do for a living so how can the charade continue??......I watched the video of the coroner giving his chat with reporters and his style was as if they had briefed him for a role and he forgot lots of the details and thought it was okay to laugh because after all we all know this is just play acting here........but still I can't understand these actors being used this way and TPTW would know they have friends and family who would know they are not Robbie Parker or whoever they claimed in those ridiculous interviews where not a tear is shed.

[Akasha]

"All the children that passed were Angelic pure souls with no karma of their own.

Before they incarnated, potentials were planned in order for them to fulfill their soul missions. Humanity is at a cross roads and is shifting to a Heart centered consciousness.

These children decided at the level of Soul to allow this experience to happen and sacrifice their lives. Why?

Because it is sending such a powerful rippling effect throughout all of humanity causing people to go Within and ask the deep questions about the purpose of life.

This was a selfless choice made because of the love these souls have for humanity. They are celebrating again in the Angel Realms and are at peace.

Lets not let their sacrifice be in vain and lets choose to Love and forgive and open our Hearts to receive Divine Grace and change the consciousness the pervades this world that cherishes violence, fear and separation.



.....if they actually existed at all......and if they were actually killed.

[Referee]

I found this comment on a you tube video any truth to this can anyone confirm?


Mike Macoy 22 hours ago


Besides all the bad actors faking their tears have you seen the RIP Victoria Soto Facebook Page Created December 10, 2012, 4 days before it happened? Check that one out. This is one false flag that got totally screwed up.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is one false flag that got totally screwed up.
That's part of the gig ... reveal enough of the magic act so that the crowd gets bickering amongst themselves as to whether it real or not, and if not, how faked, while the bastards pulling it off laugh in our faces, feeding their lust for control and abuse on our fears and confusions.

The "perfect" crime would hold none of this energy, and be of no interest to them. This is not a simple crime of property. You or I might have some fantasy of pulling off the "perfect" bank heist, and gaining a million dollars without leaving a single clue, unnoticed until the bank manager opens the vault the next Monday morning to find a stash of unmarked bills missing.

This is a crime of esoteric passions. Our fears and confusions are an integral part of the drama.

[RampartRanger]

I found this comment on a you tube video any truth to this can anyone confirm?


Mike Macoy 22 hours ago


Besides all the bad actors faking their tears have you seen the RIP Victoria Soto Facebook Page Created December 10, 2012, 4 days before it happened? Check that one out. This is one false flag that got totally screwed up.


There's posts in this thread and/or the other Sandy Hook thread about this aspect. I remember the posts but haven't gone looking for them. I said this a page or two back:

Regarding the "joined Facebook" date on the Emilie Parker Memorial FB page, something similar was noted with the Victoria Soto Memorial FB page...it said it was created sometime before December 14th. Eventually the page owner posted something saying that the page was something else before and was changed to the page it is now after the Sandy Hook event. So it must be the case that the Emilie Parker FB page was in fact created on December 14th, 2012 at 3:39 PM.
[Source: https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund/posts/137842576368192 (the page you're taken to after clicking on the date of the "recent activity: joined facebook" headline on the upper left side of her Memorial FB home page)]
The actual time is unknown to me as it does not have a timezone listed and someone in the comments section said it was actually 2:39. So I imagine that I am seeing the time as my local time, which is GMT minus 7 hours (US Mountain/Denver, CO)...or what I believe would be 5:39 PM in Connecticut.


In other words, the Victoria Soto FB page was apparently something else before it was that page (hence the earlier "joined Facebook" date) and was changed after the event, according to the page operator.
That being said, the Emilie Parker page was definitely created the evening of December 14th, 2012.

[Earth Angel]

another question, Sandy Hook looks like a private school ?? and apparently the community of Newtown CT is very prosperous.....so why the very day someone learns that a friends daughter was killed in such shocking circumstances, is the first thing they think of MONEY ?? how the hell is that going to help them?? If a family loses their child what will money do for them? its not like she was sick and medical expenses were going to be an issue, she is supposedly dead.......I find it odd that this was done so quickly , or indeed at all.

[Gardener]

Has anyone here ever tried to change their facebook name/title?

[Kimberley]

Has anyone here ever tried to change their facebook name/title?

Yes I was able to change my name on Fb several years ago when I was only there to see what my Daughters were up to... I had a fake name and changed it... I also have a page that is for my radio show and I am not able to change that name....


hope this is of help!!! XOXOXOXXO

[161803398]

Its under " Account Settings" and says "We require everyone to use their real name on Facebook. Learn more. Note that it usually takes 24 hours to confirm name changes"

[RampartRanger]

http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-17__13-24-07/Retraction+And+Apology

"An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school's principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted.

We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family."

So...If they didn't interview any person claiming to be the principal, they would have simply said they made some mistake...but they didn't, they're sticking to their story that they interviewed someone claiming to be the principal. It looks like we have another actress.

[RampartRanger]

The man in the woods...
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fv50d75632.jpg
...is apparently a parent.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/14/nation/la-na-1215-newtown-school-shooting-20121215
"Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends the school, was heading there Friday morning to help make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard popping sounds and smelled sulfur.
He ran around the school trying to reach his daughter and was briefly handcuffed by police. He later found his child, who had been locked in a small room with a teacher."

EDIT: I am reading on other forums that some are speculating the man in the picture is actually Chris Rodia. Apparently both Chris Rodia and Chris Manfredonia's names can be hear in the police radio chatter on YouTube.

[RampartRanger]

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[161803398]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?LzJo0t2tDto

[161803398]

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/12/did-illuminati-leave-cryptic-message-on-conspiracy-forum-website-who-is-christopher-rodia-2447028.html

" Did a member of the so-called ‘illuminati’ leave a cryptic message upon a conspiracy forum website warning of future events associated with the Sandy Hook elementary school shootings? The ‘conspiracy theory’ website has been buzzing for the last day in reference to the following message left by a user who then ‘disappeared’ and has not been heard from since. The message, called “A warning and Secret Clue- SANDY HOOK and the POINT”, was left by a user calling himself ‘SandUSKy’ and closes with “I pray you understand the cryptic importance of this message. Some of us do care. Stay safe.” Is a member of the ‘illuminati’ trying to warn us or is this just another poser seeking attention over this disaster? Here’s the entire message:
A warning and Secret Clue- SANDY HOOK and the POINT
When the pebbles skip across the water, only but one will sink. Three smooth skip over the body, while the rough and jagged trip over and join. CHRIStmas delivers fulfilment of the list. Who is naughty to be left out? SANDuskY has a POINT. Adam holds the fire which was sparked by CHRIStmas EVE. Watch the fire roast the LAMB as the LAMB is SANDY and POINTs towards CHRISTMAS EVE. I pray you understand the cryptic importance of this message. Some of us do care. Stay safe."

[jackovesk]

Tuesday, 01 January 2013

Written by Kerry Cassidy...

In following the trail from Aurora to the Sikh shootings to Sandy Hook it seems to be leading us in the direction of "Gotham". This is what worries me.

If you are among those who have seen the maps from the Batman Movie "The Dark Knight Rises" you already know that both Aurora and Sandy Hook were clearly marked on the map.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/images/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpeg

(See this link for the more on maps etc of Gotham):

http://www.freedomslips.com/sandyhook.htm

Given that Aurora happened at the showing of the movie the connection cannot be more obvious. But if one follows this scenario, where does the movie lead? It centers around Gotham (NYC) and a free energy weapon hidden underground which is turned into a bomb that could destroy the city... The movie ends with it being flown off shore and detonated...

However, all indications are that the target for the various events along a specific trajectory appear to be leading in the direction of the financial system. According to one of my past sources there would come a time when those in power positions would want to "disappear" evidence contained in digital financial records in order to cover their tracks.. they need an excuse to be unable to reveal those who have responsible at the highest levels, for looting the American people for years... as well as the rest of the world. I am told, if they should target the servers where such records are kept, that chaos would be the result... That and possibly a financial standstill or RESET that would be unprecedented. We know that the Libor scandal stretches worldwide. It is web that involves large corporations around the world and a fixing of interest rates for years, by the 16 largest banks... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/27/matt-taibbi-libor-scandal-biggest-financial_n_2372194.html

Is this financial unraveling the beginning of a reset that results in the order out of chaos so prized by those intent on bringing about the NWO?

Ultimately, the trail leads also to companies like GE... and indications are, that GE has a great deal to hide. The recent events at Sandy Hook resulted in the death of the son of a GE tax director (Peter Lanza) and involved the boy of 20, being turned into a manchurian candidate/assassin. You have to ask yourself why they would go to such lengths in this case as well as with the son of the financial software inventor, from FICO, Robert Holmes? What are these two men involved with that would trigger such diabolical coercion and manipulation? Frankly I don't see where these men could stand to keep quiet at this point.

Is fear of their own death really a worse option for men who see their sons turned into sleeping assassins responsible for the cold blooded murder of innocent victims including children? What would you do if you KNEW they turned your innocent child into a cold blooded killer? Do you seriously think these two men are naive as to what is being done to keep them on track and from telling what they know to the world at large?

This is what we are dealing with. If, I am correct, and the trail leads to "Gotham" and a financial war being waged that will ultimately lead to mass destruction of financial records in order to hide the true trail of where the money all goes... which is undoubtably the BLACK PROJECTS.. and highly secret space program... that Gary McKinnon hacked into.. Then where else does it lead? And more importantly, what can be done about it?

This article is interesting. It was sent to me by a contact. Seemingly unrelated however if you read down, you can't help but see a couple key statements regarding General Electric. It seems the company is involved in a lot more than just "electricity"...


Super Conductor Diamonds [used] in directed energy beams. The new “Star Wars” is finally here it seems with technology such as the so called ‘Death Ray” technology that is supposed to be a myth but yet confirmed by CIA operatives and installed on some US Navy ships such as the one in the photo above."

.......................

"...yet a report released by De Beers in 1981 indicated that these synthetic diamonds were already in existence and these patents were owned by De Beers and General Electric USA. Strangely it turns out that General Electric was working on advanced super conductor technology for the US Military since the late 70′s...." --Editor, World News Tomorrow

Yes, directed energy weapons have been in use in Black Projects for probably 40 years... and in the public domain acknowledged since the days of the Reagan administration... But what else is going on at GE that would result in one of their top tax guys getting embroiled in a tragedy like Sandy Hook?

It can be instructive to go from the personal to the world stage to figure out how companies such as GE get wrapped into the web of Black Project funding that stretches to 16 international banks and involves looting millions by rigging interest rates... and so much more. We are talking about the orchestration of the fleecing of millions for a purpose.

GE is only one company albeit a very large player in this arena... What would the information hidden deep in the server farms that are stored underground in NYC and other places reveal if hacked into and displayed for all to see? Certainly, a worldwide swindling operation that involves drug money, sex and human trafficking, names, dates, places and amounts by which you, the world, are being deceived by an elite up to their eyeballs in a web of lies.

What is it these groups at the top are warring over? Is it simply more wealth? Is this what you believe? Because the massacre of children is happening on our watch and at our doorstep in the name of something more far reaching than simple Greed. It most certainly involves a war for control over energy and, as I am being told, the right to issue currency. It involves a takedown of the U.S. and the fleecing of the world at large. It is being fought in hidden halls and underground places, both on and off this world.

It all comes down to the individuals involved. The Peter Lanza's and Robert Holmes, who are working for corporations that have destroyed every last shred of humanity they have in order to secure their silence. When will such people step forward and say enough? Not the mothers and fathers of innocent victims, but those with their hands dirty, with one foot in the black world and one foot in the everyday world where the rest of us live.

They are the ones who know what their masters are up to.. they are the ones creating the ways and means for the treachery to continue. For the raping and plundering and obfuscating to go on. They have sold their souls. They are the potential whistleblowers that could one day step forward and say enough. Because it is in the insiders coming forward that hold the hope for all of us... Revealing what has been going on, on their watch, in which they have participated. Salvation anyone? Do you really think the sacrifice of innocents is worth what you are fighting to keep hidden?

Go here for my related article: http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1483-dark-knight-rises-sandy-hook-aurora

http://projectcamelotportal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=31&Itemid=218

PS - Yes indeed Kerry...:yes4:

Remember (ALL THE DESTROYED EVIDENCE) that was obliterated when Blg 7 was demolished...

The PTW/MO fits like the devils glove, and they are now going for broke. So its only natural to assume (YET AGAIN) all the evidence will be destoyed to cover their tracks.!

[SilentFeathers]

Ben Swann Full Disclosure looks at eyewittness accounts from the scenes of the colorado theater shooting, the wisconsin sikh temple shooting and the connecticut elementary school shooting that indicate more than one shooter may have been involved in all three shootings

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[SilentFeathers]

Now why would a traumatized child draw this for Obama? weird huh?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qeoOvxOXCBU/mqdefault.jpg

[Earth Angel]

I thought this was something she had drawn before and her mother gave it to Obama after she died, and made copies (as any grieving mother would do) and gave it to Anderson Cooper.......this is the woman who was smiling as she described colouring her daughters casket and how she didn't think it was odd not to have been allowed to see her daughter until then........no tears at all from her or the father, very very very odd


Now why would a traumatized child draw this for Obama? weird huh?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qeoOvxOXCBU/mqdefault.jpg

[SilentFeathers]

I thought this was something she had drawn before and her mother gave it to Obama after she died, and made copies (as any grieving mother would do) and gave it to Anderson Cooper.......this is the woman who was smiling as she described colouring her daughters casket and how she didn't think it was odd not to have been allowed to see her daughter until then........no tears at all from her or the father, very very very odd


Now why would a traumatized child draw this for Obama? weird huh?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qeoOvxOXCBU/mqdefault.jpg

that's right, a child that supposedly died named Grace drew this.....I even find this odd and likely untrue....

PS: does anyone have a blown up version of this owl pic so I can get a closer look?


ADDED: Call me superstitious. but considering Cooper is a puppet and reports only what he is told to report, I would consider this owl to be an omen of sorts, I would say this owl pic is a warning and also a symbolic signature of sorts.

I do NOT believe this child named Grace drew this, as a matter of fact I believe very little of the MSM reporting about this shooting....

[Kimberley]

Now why would a traumatized child draw this for Obama? weird huh?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qeoOvxOXCBU/mqdefault.jpg


Here is a video I saw a few days ago about the owl.....

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[SilentFeathers]

Now why would a traumatized child draw this for Obama? weird huh?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qeoOvxOXCBU/mqdefault.jpg


Here is a video I saw a few days ago about the owl.....

LjfLn0P99JM

Thanks, I seen this the other day too but didn't take it too seriously. Dubya is too dumb to be a leader of the highest order IMO, and I think the Bush's are not at the top of the ladder so to speak, big players yes, but not "world controllers" by any means.

[Creative Lorraine]

Jackovest could this be what the Motive for Sandy Hook massacre

GE has just announced a revolutionary
new multiple sensor RFID Chip but there
is no market for it
not unless you make the public fear
for their lives and the gov passes
gun laws that say that you have to get
your gun chipped BY LAW.
Read on

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2102233/pg1?regp=bm9fMTM1NzMzODY4OA==

[Kimberley]

Fear not is my motto.... that is the best we can be IMHO... much love to us all!!! XO

[161803398]

This is George Bush in 1994: http://archive.org/details/BrainTenYrs

Maybe he ate too many GMOS.

[Mozart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsVmzBX8F0&feature=youtu.be

Please pardon me if it's been posted before.


And this one:

http://govtslaves.info/connecticut-cop-goes-public-exposes-sandy-hooks-contradictions-inconsistencies-gun-grab-agenda/

[161803398]

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sandyhookinternethoaxers22dec12.shtml

From Ken Adachi, Editor
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sandyhookinternethoaxers22dec12.shtml
December 22, 2012

Sandy Hook Massacre: Trying to Distinguish Legitimate Facts of the Staged Killings From Internet Hoaxers Confusing Our Perceptions (Dec. 22, 2012)

There are so many irregularities about the individuals involved in the Sandy Hook shooting and their behavior that we can't be certain of anything at this point and we shouldn't assume anything to be true or untrue just because it seems too outlandish to consider. However, some allegations seen on Youtube and on some web sites, don't bear up under scrutiny.

That being said, I am firmly convinced that Sandy Hook was a staged shooting and that there is a cover-up in play which surely must involve the police and other 'official' participants; both those named and unnamed.

I studied the photos which I first noticed posted to Henry Makow's web site alleging to show photos of a possibly 'deceased' Emilie Parker sitting on Obama's lap when he visited Newtown, Connecticut, and the allegation that Robbie Parker, the father, is an actor. At first look, I thought that the Emilie Parker claim might be legit, but the more I studied the photo, the more my skepticism grew. The youngest Parker child looks older in the photo taken with Obama, so naturally, the second oldest daughter has grown a year or two since the family portrait used for comparison. It doesn't strike me as odd that the mother would use the same dress for the second child that was used by Emilie for the family portrait. Assuming that the mother and father are legit, it's common for mothers to use the same clothing for children who are close in age to each other, especially if she's looking for the best dress available for a photo with the Usurper President. "

[ThePythonicCow]

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sandyhookinternethoaxers22dec12.shtml

From Ken Adachi, Editor
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sandyhookinternethoaxers22dec12.shtml
December 22, 2012

Sandy Hook Massacre: Trying to Distinguish Legitimate Facts of the Staged Killings From Internet Hoaxers Confusing Our Perceptions (Dec. 22, 2012)


I like Ken Adachi's conclusion from that article:



I raise these objections because I believe people like Ed Chiarini and Jim Stone are intentionally muddying the waters with exaggerated, extreme, or untenable claims in order to further obfuscate and dilute an accurate perception of what's taking place at these staged shooting/psyop events, and thus leave the public with so many possible choices of what might have taken, that the public arrives at no firm conviction of what happened and remain indecisive and uncertain of what course of action to pursue.

[Hervé]

Now why would a traumatized child draw this for Obama? weird huh?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qeoOvxOXCBU/mqdefault.jpg

FWIW: owls are the preferred cloaking shape taken by Greys to approach humans (especially children) for their abductions... errrr... what's that avatar about...

[jackovesk]

Cathy Gaubert Claims Her Daughter’s Photo Was Stolen From Flicker And Used As Sandy Hook Shooting Victim

January 3, 2013

http://govtslaves.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/9xGuF6Q.png

More interesting developments on the Sandy Hook shooting conspiracy…A women named Cathy Gaubert is claiming someone stole her daughter’s “first day of school” picture.

The photo was lifted from their Flicker account and published as a victim in the Sandy Hook shooting.

The mother took to Instagram posting this interesting message asking readers to put pressure on Facebook users to remove it from their pages .

According to the mother there is one page who is ignoring her request.

The above picture looks like its from the Daily Mail, although attempts to find a cashed version of the page were unsuccessful, as were attempts to contact the mother. You can view her Twitter page here and Instagram here. I don’t know but this Sandy Hook thing keeps getting weirder and weirder!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IAsVmzBX8F0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IAsVmzBX8F0

http://govtslaves.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cathy-gaubert.png

http://govtslaves.info/cathy-gaubert-claims-her-daughters-photo-was-stolen-from-flicker-and-used-as-sandy-hook-shooting-victim/

[Earth Angel]

if she knows a picture of her Alive and Well child is being used in this story then why does she close with " My heart is breaking for the victims and the families in the wake of this horrific mass murder"........I mean if I saw a picture of my child listed as one of the victims I would certainly question if there were ANY victims and the whole story, wouldn't you ??

[Hervé]

I am beginning to think that, as another incidental yield of this false flag, there is also one of these Tavistock engineered social experiment as to how gross the discrepancies can be and a vast majority of a population still blind to them and buying the MSM "official" story to see how far their push can go or if the US population is ripe for the harvesting.

Conversely, it's also a culling of who doesn't bite the bait.

[Earth Angel]

its amazing to watch how much Bull**** has been presented in the 'official story' and yet if you dare mention it to anyone or on facebook that it is not as it seems they attack you as if you are a murderer too! how dare you not buy into this BS Sandwich that has been so sloppily prepared for you!!

If these people actually did exist and did lose the children they claim, they will have better things to do with their time than cruise facebook looking to be offended by people who don't buy the official story.

[Gardener]

I must confess to having similar 'thoughts' that it was an 'experiment' on multiple levels, I surely can't explain the total silence from everyone involved in the face of so much critical evidence otherwise.
The coronor type dude is a joke, my goodness the guy is so not a coroner. If he is then he is under some kind of influence or has rapid onset alzheimers.

No one except this one person above is saying anything in the way of DENIAL, no rebuttals, nothing!

I am beginning to think that, as another incidental yield of this false flag, there is also one of these Tavistock engineered social experiment as to how gross the discrepancies can be and a vast majority of a population still blind to them and buying the MSM "official" story to see how far their push can go or if the US population is ripe for the harvesting.

Conversely, it's also a culling of who doesn't bite the bait.

[SilentFeathers]

Shootings and psychiatric medications: Connecting the Dots


Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. Harris and fellow student Dylan Klebold went on a hellish school shooting rampage in 1999 during which they killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves.Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox – that’s 1 in 25 – developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.

Patrick Purdy went on a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, Calif., in 1989, which became the catalyst for the original legislative frenzy to ban “semiautomatic assault weapons” in California and the nation. The 25-year-old Purdy, who murdered five children and wounded 30, had been on Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.

Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Ore., and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.

In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann went on a shooting rampage in a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Ill., killing one child and wounding six. She had been taking the antidepressant Anafranil as well as Lithium, long used to treat mania.

In Paducah, Ky., in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.

In 2005, 16-year-old Native American Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.

In another famous case, 47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Ky., killing nine. Prozac-maker Eli Lilly later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.

Kurt Danysh, 18, shot his own father to death in 1996, a little more than two weeks after starting on Prozac. Danysh’s description of own his mental-emotional state at the time of the murder is chilling: “I didn’t realize I did it until after it was done,” Danysh said. “This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun.”

John Hinckley, age 25, took four Valium two hours before shooting and almost killing President Ronald Reagan in 1981. In the assassination attempt, Hinckley also wounded press secretary James Brady, Secret Service agent Timothy McCarthy and policeman Thomas Delahanty.

Andrea Yates, in one of the most heartrending crimes in modern history, drowned all five of her children – aged 7 years down to 6 months – in a bathtub. Insisting inner voices commanded her to kill her children, she had become increasingly psychotic over the course of several years. At her 2006 murder re-trial (after a 2002 guilty verdict was overturned on appeal), Yates’ longtime friend Debbie Holmes testified: “She asked me if I thought Satan could read her mind and if I believed in demon possession.” And Dr. George Ringholz, after evaluating Yates for two days, recounted an experience she had after the birth of her first child: “What she described was feeling a presence … Satan … telling her to take a knife and stab her son Noah,” Ringholz said, adding that Yates’ delusion at the time of the bathtub murders was not only that she had to kill her children to save them, but that Satan had entered her and that she had to be executed in order to kill Satan.Yates had been taking the antidepressant Effexor. In November 2005, more than four years after Yates drowned her children, Effexor manufacturer Wyeth Pharmaceuticals quietly added “homicidal ideation” to the drug’s list of “rare adverse events.” The Medical Accountability Network, a private nonprofit focused on medical ethics issues, publicly criticized Wyeth, saying Effexor’s “homicidal ideation” risk wasn’t well-publicized and that Wyeth failed to send letters to doctors or issue warning labels announcing the change.And what exactly does “rare” mean in the phrase “rare adverse events”? The FDA defines it as occurring in less than one in 1,000 people. But since that same year 19.2 million prescriptions for Effexor were filled in the U.S., statistically that means thousands of Americans might experience “homicidal ideation” – murderous thoughts – as a result of taking just this one brand of antidepressant drug.Effexor is Wyeth’s best-selling drug, by the way, which in one recent year brought in over $3 billion in sales, accounting for almost a fifth of the company’s annual revenues.

One more case is instructive, that of 12-year-old Christopher Pittman, who struggled in court to explain why he murdered his grandparents, who had provided the only love and stability he’d ever known in his turbulent life. “When I was lying in my bed that night,” he testified, “I couldn’t sleep because my voice in my head kept echoing through my mind telling me to kill them.” Christopher had been angry with his grandfather, who had disciplined him earlier that day for hurting another student during a fight on the school bus. So later that night, he shot both of his grandparents in the head with a .410 shotgun as they slept and then burned down their South Carolina home, where he had lived with them.”I got up, got the gun, and I went upstairs and I pulled the trigger,” he recalled. “Through the whole thing, it was like watching your favorite TV show. You know what is going to happen, but you can’t do anything to stop it.”Pittman’s lawyers would later argue that the boy had been a victim of “involuntary intoxication,” since his doctors had him taking the antidepressants Paxil and Zoloft just prior to the murders.Paxil’s known “adverse drug reactions” – according to the drug’s FDA-approved label – include “mania,” “insomnia,” “anxiety,” “agitation,” “confusion,” “amnesia,” “depression,” “paranoid reaction,” “psychosis,” “hostility,” “delirium,” “hallucinations,” “abnormal thinking,” “depersonalization” and “lack of emotion,” among others.The preceding examples are only a few of the best-known offenders who had been taking prescribed psychiatric drugs before committing their violent crimes – there are many others.

Whether we like to admit it or not, it is undeniable that when certain people living on the edge of sanity take psychiatric medications, those drugs can – and occasionally do – push them over the edge into violent madness. Remember, every single SSRI antidepressant sold in the United States of America today, no matter what brand or manufacturer, bears a “black box” FDA warning label – the government’s most serious drug warning – of “increased risks of suicidal thinking and behavior, known as suicidality, in young adults ages 18 to 24.” Common sense tells us that where there are suicidal thoughts – especially in a very, very angry person – homicidal thoughts may not be far behind. Indeed, the mass shooters we are describing often take their own lives when the police show up, having planned their suicide ahead of time.


Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/the-giant-gaping-hole-in-sandy-hook-reporting/#CO4wIbkuaa3Mvszt.99
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[Hervé]

Discrepancies comparison with the 7/7 London bombing from: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-analogies-with-the-london-77-bombings/

Sandy Hook: Analogies with the London 7/7 Bombings
By Nick Kollerstrom (with Jim Fetzer)


“No-one has been able to get into the Sandy Hook elementary school to verify if there are any bullet-marks, bloodstains etc, then on January 2nd, the children were transferred to another school some miles away: we assume the old Sandy Hook Elementary School will remain sealed off, and will be demolished. Perhaps a shootout DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN THERE, it was just an illusion.”–Nicholas Kollerstrom


http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2000-ffilm1.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-analogies-with-the-london-77-bombings/2000-ffilm-2/)

Nicholas Kollerstrom is an historian of science who has taken great risks and suffered real harms by his willingness to conduct scientific research on the Holocaust (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/04/the-war-on-truth-research-on-the-holocaust-can-end-your-career/). He has also done brilliant work on 9/11 (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/22/911-and-zion-what-was-israels-role/). The points that he makes here are rather chilling, including that the Batman film ‘Dark Knight Rises’ alluded to Sandy Hook region of Gotham City, as a portion of the city of Gotham during a setup of one of the bad guy’s dirty deeds in that movie. Earlier promotions of the film the year before did not (Alex Jones discovered) have that Sandy Hook reference. The 2000 film ‘The Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre’ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SybpszlxHE)has the killer strike in the aftermath of a hurricane.’ And the ritual sacrifice of 22 children is portrayed in ‘The Hunger Games’ (http://www.amazon.com/Hunger-Games-Book-1/dp/0439023521) by Suzanne Collins: she lives in Sandy Hook. As he observes, “Perhaps a shootout DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN THERE, it was just an illusion.”


Sandy Hook: Analogies with the London 7/7 Bombings
by Nicholas Kollerstrom




The Predator has struck, one more time. We seek for its identity, what is it? I here compare two different events, perpetrated by the Enemies of Mankind, seven years apart. Maybe first read my earlier post. (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=62991)

1. Scene of crime remains concealed: no media access
No-one has been able to get into the Sandy Hook elementary school to verify if there are any bullet-marks, bloodstains etc, then on January 2nd the children were transferred to another school some miles away: we assume the old Sandy Hook Elementary School will remain sealed off, and will be demolished. Perhaps a shootout DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN THERE, it was just an illusion. Kids heard bangs, that’s all we can say. The new school will be patrolled by security guards permanently: presumably to maintain the kids in a state of sufficient trauma to prevent them talking, or remembering the wrong sort of thing.



http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/no-bodies-Daily-Mail1-320x259.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-analogies-with-the-london-77-bombings/no-bodies-daily-mail-2/)
No bodies, only some duffle bags (Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248197/Adam-Lanza-How-honor-student-goth-killer-massacring-20-children-Sandy-Hook-Elementary.html))

The Mail Online 6 January (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-analogies-with-the-london-77-bombings/) shows this image, subtitled: ‘Chaotic scenes at the school as police work to secure the area and bodies are carried out of the school.’ But look carefully, no bodies are here, only some duffle bags – and some are doubting whether this is the school car-park.

In the London Bombings, the three train carriages were kept absolutely out or bounds then destroyed one year later: the blown-up bus was taken up to Sevenoaks Military establishment (http://terroronthetube.co.uk/2011/03/01/constructed-terror-the-conclusive-proof/#more-2334), i.e only the military can see it.

2. CCTV switched off
The Sandy Hook Elementary School was in an up-market area of Connecticut, shown by the large majority of its children being from Jewish families. It would have had high-security equipment including CCTV cameras. We have as yet not been shown images from the time of the crime (curiously vague, but said to have been three minutes around 9.45 on 14th December). There are no images of a ‘crime scene’ eg bullet-marks in walls or through windows. No wounded persons being interviewed.

During the London Bombings, as also for 9/11, the CCTV was switched off: no pictures, from the most heavily CCTV’d city in the world (until 3 years later when some rather dodgy ones were released).

[...]

Full article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-analogies-with-the-london-77-bombings/

[modwiz]

its amazing to watch how much Bull**** has been presented in the 'official story' and yet if you dare mention it to anyone or on facebook that it is not as it seems they attack you as if you are a murderer too! how dare you not buy into this BS Sandwich that has been so sloppily prepared for you!!

If these people actually did exist and did lose the children they claim, they will have better things to do with their time than cruise facebook looking to be offended by people who don't buy the official story.

You are describing the Matrix protecting itself. The creators of the Matrix are far too small in number to make it all work. Like viruses, they infect what were once healthy cells and turn them into replicating cells. The behavior you have witnessed is the virus acting through its' infected agents. They Live!

[SilentFeathers]

More hypocrites!

Goes to show you who is really running Bank of America!

BANK OF AMERICA FREEZES GUN MANUFACTURERS ACCOUNT “WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE SELLING GUNS ON THE INTERNET”
http://endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bank-of-america-freezes-gun-manufacturers-account-we-believe-you-should-not-be-selling-guns-on-the-internet/#respond

[modwiz]

More hypocrites!

Goes to show you who is really running Bank of America!

BANK OF AMERICA FREEZES GUN MANUFACTURERS ACCOUNT “WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE SELLING GUNS ON THE INTERNET”
http://endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bank-of-america-freezes-gun-manufacturers-account-we-believe-you-should-not-be-selling-guns-on-the-internet/#respond

This is where these guys start to overplay their hand, IMO. Guns are a political hot potato and this bank is getting involved. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. LOL

[Hervé]

Different data on Lanza's car from: http://www.sott.net/article/255766-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre-Unanswered-Questions


[...]

The below photo of the black Honda civic that belonged to Adam Lanza's mother has the registration number "872 YEO":


http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126037/large/lanza_car.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126037/full/lanza_car.jpg)
Many internet pundits with impaired common sense have voiced suspicions regarding the vehicle's ownership because of a segment of the emergency responders' radio feed from that morning. At 30 minutes, 15 seconds in this supposedly "full-length" version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc) we hear someone, presumably an officer on the scene, read out vehicle registration plates ("872 YEO"). This is followed soon afterwards, at 30 minutes, 50 seconds, by the name "RODIA, CHRISTOPHER A.", followed by a date of birth of "August 6, '69" from another officer with a deep voice.

This has been presented as evidence that the car did not belong to Nancy Lanza but someone named Christopher Rodia.

But if you listen to the full audio stream from the original source at RadioReference.com, which includes all police transmissions on that morning from the entire Fairfield county, you realise that the stream includes police radio transmissions from police officers involved in the Sandy Hook shooting AND transmissions from other officers involved in traffic stops etc.

In the *real* full version of the transmissions, you hear a unit "272" giving the 872 YEO license number to a dispatcher, and saying "possible suspect vehicle". This is a reference to the car Lanza allegedly drove to the school and is obviously from an officer involved in the Sandy Hook shooting response.

About 20 seconds later an officer with a deep voice says "53 Edward, run the operator, he's a Florida license and Connecticut as well. Last name is Rodia R-O-D-I-A, Christopher... August 6, 1969..." But about 5 minutes before this, this same officer with a deep voice is heard to say "33 headquarters, motor vehicle stop". The obvious conclusion being that these were two intermingled streams that someone, without an ounce of discernment (like noticing the difference between two voices), decided was evidence that Nancy Lanza's car belonged to someone else.

Throughout the audio other traffic stops with references to car makes and models can also be heard. There is therefore no reason to believe that the segment about Rodia is anything other than a traffic stop.

As it turns out, there is a Christopher Rodia in Connecticut, one who was arrested in July 2012 (http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/duo-caught-stealing-copper-from-construction-site#.UOnAoHd5IgJ) in connection with stealing copper piping. More to the point, we have personally seen publicly available tax records which show that Rodia owns a totally different car.

[...]

Full article: http://www.sott.net/article/255766-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre-Unanswered-Questions

[Arrowwind]

Whether we like to admit it or not, it is undeniable that when certain people living on the edge of sanity take psychiatric medications, those drugs can – and occasionally do – push them over the edge into violent madness.]

And this is only the tip of the iceburg. How many others are doing lessor assaults, crimes and insane violent activity while under the influence of these drugs. We never hear about that. We only hear the worst. People dont stop to think about that one.

[Arrowwind]

So for how long can they keep these 26 families silent?
If the children are in fact not dead, where did they go?
Are we going to start to see these families vanish from the face of the planet
as we saw so many vanish who had first hand insight to 9/11?
So many of those are dead now.

[SilentFeathers]

Can this get more "weirder/stranger" than this???? This is way beyond coincidence, let alone bizzarre!!!!!!


Another Sandy Hook Coincidence: ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Prop Master Scott Getzinger Died in April 2012 Car Accident

According to Master Propsman’s Scott Gettzinger’s IMDB page, his date of birth was December 30th, 1965. He was born in Branford, Connecticut. He died on April 7th, 2012 in Stamford, Connecticut. His wake was at St. Rose Cemetery in Newtown, Connecticut, the same cemetery where mourning took place for the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre.

http://sgtreport.com/2013/01/sandy-hook-massacre-coincidence-99-dark-knight-rises-prop-master-scott-getzinger-1965-2012-died-in-april-2012-car-accident-from-non-life-threatening-injuries/


STAMFORD -- A 46-year-old Newtown man who worked behind the scenes on numerous blockbuster films was killed in a head-on accident on the Merritt Parkway Friday evening.

Scott Getzinger, a property master who provided props for more than 25 films, including "Spider-Man," "Independence Day," "The Truman Show" and the upcoming "Men in Black III" and "The Dark Knight Rises," died at Stamford Hospital after sustaining severe injuries.

http://www.dailypaul.com/267785/prop-master-of-dark-knight-rises-died-3-months-before-movie-release


http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/12/50/61/2788465/13/628x471.jpg

An Even Clearer Picture About Sandy Hook
8rJ6veCYtyM

Scotts' accident and condition, according to State Police
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Newtown-man-dies-in-Stamford-acc...
(PAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED)

Susan, Scotts' wife, on video with BOE about Sandy Hook Special Services
NVreKy-rbhI

Anyone who may have had questions about the placement of the words “Sandy Hook’ on a map in the film ‘The Dark Knight Rises’, may first seek an explanation for it from the film’s prop master, Scott Getzinger. Alas, that is not possible since the man is deceased.



The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan."
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Newtown-man-die...
(page/link removed)

There was a "passenger" with Ms. Orteig when the accident happened, but they did not go to the hospital and were not identified.

Alexandra Orteig's father, Stephen Orteig, is a member of the U.N. Committee of New Cannan.
http://uncommitteeofnc.org/aboutus.html

[Referee]

Photo Shoped family photo of the Parkers. Pretty obvious to me what do you think?

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[Referee]

What is this BS totaly caught and you tube complicit.

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[Kimberley]

Great find Referee!!! Thank you!

[Referee]

Here is another Shocker Robert Parker is a senior research consultant at SERCO

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[Earth Angel]

I cant take it any more.......I'm just waiting for Ashton Kutcher to come out and tell us all we've ALL been Punk'd !!!

:jester:

[TargeT]

anyone looked into this?

http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1301/not-everything-what-seems-battaile-politics-1357386645.jpg

I'd have to see better pictures.

[Arrowwind]

anyone looked into this?

I'd have to see better pictures.

Im not convinced by this that these are the same people, the lawyer of Holmes and the parent.
this video has better photo of the attorney and I dont think that they are the same. They have different noses.

http://earlystart.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/07/aurora-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-hearing-criminal-defense-attorney-anne-bremner-discusses-case/

[Arrowwind]

Serco? what is it? they have their dirty fingers into a lot of pies, including abuse issues in prisons.
can you imagine? they manage prisons and education services for public shcools.. So Robert Parker may be employed by Serco. I cant wait to hear more about this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serco_Group

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

those are not the same woman. be careful you don't make things worse.

[ThePythonicCow]

So Robert Parker may be employed by Serco
Is there anyway to know if the Robert Parker who consults at Serco is the same Robert Parker as the one in the Sandy Hook Newtown Massacre?

I would presume that "Robert Parker" is a fairly common name in the US.

[Arrowwind]

Well, folks just need to keep digging for the truth.
ask and you shall recieve.... we hope.

[Referee]

Can anyone confirm Robert Parker works for Serco? The Robert Parker in the SH photos?

[modwiz]

Can this get more "weirder/stranger" than this???? This is way beyond coincidence, let alone bizzarre!!!!!!


Another Sandy Hook Coincidence: ‘Dark Knight Rises’ Prop Master Scott Getzinger Died in April 2012 Car Accident

According to Master Propsman’s Scott Gettzinger’s IMDB page, his date of birth was December 30th, 1965. He was born in Branford, Connecticut. He died on April 7th, 2012 in Stamford, Connecticut. His wake was at St. Rose Cemetery in Newtown, Connecticut, the same cemetery where mourning took place for the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary massacre.

http://sgtreport.com/2013/01/sandy-hook-massacre-coincidence-99-dark-knight-rises-prop-master-scott-getzinger-1965-2012-died-in-april-2012-car-accident-from-non-life-threatening-injuries/


STAMFORD -- A 46-year-old Newtown man who worked behind the scenes on numerous blockbuster films was killed in a head-on accident on the Merritt Parkway Friday evening.

Scott Getzinger, a property master who provided props for more than 25 films, including "Spider-Man," "Independence Day," "The Truman Show" and the upcoming "Men in Black III" and "The Dark Knight Rises," died at Stamford Hospital after sustaining severe injuries.

http://www.dailypaul.com/267785/prop-master-of-dark-knight-rises-died-3-months-before-movie-release


http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/12/50/61/2788465/13/628x471.jpg

An Even Clearer Picture About Sandy Hook
8rJ6veCYtyM

Scotts' accident and condition, according to State Police
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Newtown-man-dies-in-Stamford-acc...
(PAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED)

Susan, Scotts' wife, on video with BOE about Sandy Hook Special Services
NVreKy-rbhI

Anyone who may have had questions about the placement of the words “Sandy Hook’ on a map in the film ‘The Dark Knight Rises’, may first seek an explanation for it from the film’s prop master, Scott Getzinger. Alas, that is not possible since the man is deceased.



The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan."
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Newtown-man-die...
(page/link removed)

There was a "passenger" with Ms. Orteig when the accident happened, but they did not go to the hospital and were not identified.

Alexandra Orteig's father, Stephen Orteig, is a member of the U.N. Committee of New Cannan.
http://uncommitteeofnc.org/aboutus.html

A head on accident? Isn't that where to cars drive into each other head on? Did you see that parkway, with trees in the meridian?

[ThePythonicCow]

A head on accident? Isn't that where to cars drive into each other head on? Did you see that parkway, with trees in the meridian?
That picture of cars stopped on the right side, with a median having two guard rails and trees, is probably not a picture of the road where Scott Getzinger crashed.

The report at http://www.imdb.com/news/ni25977522/ also states it was a head on collision:





R.I.P. Scott Getzinger

9 April 2012 6:25 PM, PDT

Popular prop master for a number of big films and television series, Scott Getzinger was killed Friday night in a head-on collision in Stamford, Conn, when his truck was struck by a car driven by an 18-year-old. Getzinger’s credits include Shutter Island, Salt, Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, and such upcoming films as The Dark Knight Rises and Men In Black III. He was also the property master on Showtime’s series pilot Masters & Johnson and AMC’s Rubicon.
I would guess that that picture in the post above is showing cars parked along both sides of the road for someone's funeral ... just a guess.

[ThePythonicCow]

I would guess that that picture in the post above is showing cars parked along both sides of the road for someone's funeral ... just a guess.
Aha - I found that image. I was wrong. From http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Newtown-man-dies-in-Stamford-accident-3465225.php

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~






Newtown man dies in Stamford accident
Staff reports
Updated 6:55 pm, Saturday, April 7, 2012



http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/12/50/61/2788465/13/628x471.jpg
Traffic on the Merritt Parkway sits at a standstill following an
accident Friday evening between extis 35 and 36 northbound.
Photo: Contributed Photo / CT


STAMFORD -- A 46-year-old Newtown man who worked behind the scenes on numerous blockbuster films was killed in a head-on accident on the Merritt Parkway Friday evening.

Scott Getzinger, a property master who provided props for more than 25 films, including "Spider-Man," "Independence Day," "The Truman Show" and the upcoming "Men in Black III" and "The Dark Knight Rises," died at Stamford Hospital after sustaining severe injuries.

Getzinger suffered multiple broken bones, but was described as conscious and alert after being cut out of the 2002 Ford F-150 pickup truck he was driving. State police initially characterized his injuries as non-life threatening.

The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan lost control while traveling south on the parkway near Exit 36 and spun around, striking the center median guardrail and crossing over the highway into the northbound lanes.

Getzinger was driving northbound in the right-hand lane when the Lexus SUV slammed head-on crushing the front-end of his truck.

Orteig and a 17-year-old passenger also from New Canaan were also taken to Stamford Hospital. Orteig was admitted overnight and released Saturday. The passenger was not admitted to the hospital.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

One can see on Google maps that the 3.7 miles of parkway between exits 35 and 36 of Merritt Parkway, Stamford, CT is a divided highway with concrete barriers or dual metal guardrails.

So I would guess that the other car in the head-on collision entered that limited access parkway by driving the wrong way down a one-way off ramp.

===

P.S. -- I didn't read the news article very well. My "guess" was wrong. The colliding car managed to cross over the median barrier. Dang. I'd better get me a Lexus -- able to crash through a median barrier and collide head on into an oncoming pickup truck, killing the truck driver, without serious injury to those in the Lexus.

[modwiz]

One can see on Google maps that the 3.7 miles of parkway between exits 35 and 36 of Merritt Parkway, Stamford, CT is a divided highway with concrete barriers or dual metal guardrails.

So I would guess that the other car in the head-on collision entered that limited access parkway by driving the wrong way down a one-way off ramp.

Hmm. If so, it is interesting that this sort of suspicious driving, (drug, alcohol?) is not in the report. Usually police arrest people, or at least ticket them, for driving the wrong way and the police actions are then reported in the story. A luxury car gets into a head on collision with a pick up truck with minor injuries to the passengers of the luxury car, but the driver of the pick up dies of his injuries after the police characterized his injuries as non-life threatening. That sounds about right. Yeah right! :rolleyes:

[Jean-Luc]

What is this BS totaly caught and you tube complicit.

o8x6Ke43onQ

Great find.

So the Sandy School Support Fund https://newtown.uwwesternct.org/ was posted on Internet on Dec 11, 2012 three days before the Dec 14, 2012 shooting. After this was pinpointed by researcher LogicBeforeAuthority on Jan 6, Google apparently removed on Jan 7 the creation date from its database as shown in the video. It seems they may have now put it back on Jan 8.

As explained here:
Link : http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/find-publishing-date-of-web-pages/8410/

If you type : https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:https://newtown.uwwesternct.org&as_qdr=y15

You will get something like this:

http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Sandy_Hook_School_Support_Fund_Date_of_creation.jpg

The Sandy Hook School Support Fund website is made of just this one donation page (archived here as a JPG: http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Sandy_Hook_School_Support_Fund_Webpage_Dec-11-2012.JPG

Which means that any would-be arguments such as "Oh, we are so sorry, this website was by pure coincidence originally set up with another layout 3 days before the shooting and we have now updated the website with this single "par ici la monnaie" webpage"... is for dummies to believe.

[modwiz]

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The two interviews in this video with parents are quite telling in different ways. The one where the family is 'acting' aggrieved has the father speaking some lines that are clearly written for him. He is a bad actor. In the other interview with Anderson Cooper towards the end of the video, the countenance of the mother is not one a a mother who just lost a child. No way. Unless, she is part of something very sick and willingly gave her child got a "greater cause".

[Jean-Luc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ&feature=player_embedded

A quite good video indeed.
As days are passing by, I have a feel that the information is being treated more and more professionnaly by conscious/awaken/concerned citizens.That's the way to go.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ
28.000 views so far.



But lets' be careful (me included) not to jump too fast to conclusions.

Here is Niall Bradley's take on it (sott.net) :


Here is the Parker family photo: [Link (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/article-2248823-16888C2E000005DC-413_634x421.jpg)] Here is a photo of Robbie Parker's two remaining daughters and their cousins with Obama: [Link (http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-photos-2012-white-house-flickr-pete-souza-2013-1?op=1)] (5th image up from the bottom.)
The middle of the two younger daughters has grown a little since the family photo was taken and she is now wearing her deceased sister's dress.

So it's not a 'fact', much less anything "proving government complicity."

Makes sense.

See interesting discussion here: http://www.sott.net/article/255766-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre-Unanswered-Questions

[SilentFeathers]

One can see on Google maps that the 3.7 miles of parkway between exits 35 and 36 of Merritt Parkway, Stamford, CT is a divided highway with concrete barriers or dual metal guardrails.

So I would guess that the other car in the head-on collision entered that limited access parkway by driving the wrong way down a one-way off ramp.

Hmm. If so, it is interesting that this sort of suspicious driving, (drug, alcohol?) is not in the report. Usually police arrest people, or at least ticket them, for driving the wrong way and the police actions are then reported in the story. A luxury car gets into a head on collision with a pick up truck with minor injuries to the passengers of the luxury car, but the driver of the pick up dies of his injuries after the police characterized his injuries as non-life threatening. That sounds about right. Yeah right! :rolleyes:

The article actually says that the car was in the southbound lane and broke through the median guardrail???? In this photo I imagine the traffic is quite backed up and we can't see the area that the accident actually happened. The landscape may be a bit different up around that curve?

What is also quite strange is who Getzinger's wife is; she is a major thorn in the Board of Educations side in Newtown and the surrounding communities, filing lawsuits, speaking out at board meetings, etc.


Susan McGuinness Getzinger
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Susan+McGuinness+Getzinger&oq=Susan+McGuinness+Getzinger&gs_l=hp.3..0.3604.3604.0.4861.1.1.0.0.0.0.69.69.1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.2.BL44IUCOGyc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1357316858,d.eWU&fp=d9ea568ae06747ab&biw=1123&bih=621


Another strange "coincidence" is who was in the car that hit Getzinger?


Alexandra Orteig's father, Stephen Orteig, is a member of the U.N. Committee of New Cannan.
http://uncommitteeofnc.org/aboutus.html


It's truly mind-boggling to all the strange "coincidences" surrounding Sandy Hook/Newtown before the school shootings even took place....the shootings in a way connects everything together in some strange way.

One reason Sandy Hook is on the Gotham City Map is because Scott Getzinger lived at or near sandy Hook and may of wrote it on there himself (he controlled PROPS). But he is dead and can't explain, convenient huh?

....this is rather strange too as to the father and brother of "alleged" shooter Adam Lanza and where they work and who for.


Nancy and her husband Peter, Adam's father, divorced in 2009. When they first filed for divorce in 2008, a judge ordered that they participate in a "parenting education program."
Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.
Adam's older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father's footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice. He too was interviewed by the FBI. Neither he nor his father is under any suspicion.
"[Ryan] is a tax guy and he is clean as a whistle," a source familiar with his work said.
http://gma.yahoo.com/connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-obviously-not-well-182011729--abc-news-topstories.html

It would take too much band width to list all the "anomalies" surrounding this Sandy Hook shooting!

[Referee]

Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?

UDKpyD1jPOM

[ThePythonicCow]

Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?
Lots of them.

The question is whose law they're enforcing.

[SilentFeathers]

Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?

UDKpyD1jPOM


Is this for real????????????????????

If so, why hasn't it hit mainstream????

[dddanieljjjamesss]

IQpla8OSbQk

The two interviews in this video with parents are quite telling in different ways. The one where the family is 'acting' aggrieved has the father speaking some lines that are clearly written for him. He is a bad actor. In the other interview with Anderson Cooper towards the end of the video, the countenance of the mother is not one a a mother who just lost a child. No way. Unless, she is part of something very sick and willingly gave her child got a "greater cause".


By the way Obama, my ten year old daughter wanted to ask you about legislation... specific legislation. VERY specific legislation.

[gooty64]

This video is worth it's own thread! imho

A new fresh Sandy Hook thread, PLEASE Ref? or Paul?


Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?

UDKpyD1jPOM

[SilentFeathers]

Check out the dates on this google search! I got the link from Dutchsinse's facebook page!

Check out the dates, something is really wrong here!


https://www.google.com/search?q=sandy+hook+shooting+fund&num=50&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&ei=VNfqUKnjDcfU2AWklICoDA&ved=0CCEQpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A10%2F1%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F13%2F2012&tbm

Need some computer wizzes here to take a good look at this please.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Dutchsinse on his FB has retracted the Vimeo links - but has not provided any reason as to why he believes it was falsified. A friend of mine said you can enter the date when you upload a video as anything you want - but that wouldn't explain the number of views. I don't see how those could have happened.

[SilentFeathers]

Dutchsinse on his FB has retracted the Vimeo links - but has not provided any reason as to why he believes it was falsified. A friend of mine said you can enter the date when you upload a video as anything you want - but that wouldn't explain the number of views. I don't see how those could have happened.

Some hacker/nerd/geek (idiot) is messing around bigtime with these dates etc it seems.....

[Hervé]

[...]




The accident was reported at 7:02 p.m. when a 1999 Lexus RX300 driven by Alexandra Orteig, 18, of New Canaan lost control while traveling south on the parkway near Exit 36 and spun around, striking the center median guardrail and crossing over the highway into the northbound lanes.

Getzinger was driving northbound in the right-hand lane when the Lexus SUV slammed head-on crushing the front-end of his truck.

Orteig and a 17-year-old passenger also from New Canaan were also taken to Stamford Hospital. Orteig was admitted overnight and released Saturday. The passenger was not admitted to the hospital.

[...]




... suddenly... the above "sounds" familiar (from this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54022-Former-British-Foreign-Secretary-Died-on-a-hiking-trip-not-long-after-saying-This-...&p=611690&viewfull=1#post611690) <---):



There was a movie just before christmas staring Jason Statham about this true
story !! 'KILLER ELITE'...


[Diana]

Major Michael Marman/Sir Peter Horsely (1986)

A complex case is examined in Sir Ranulph Fiennes' The Feather Men, a novelisation of an real-life story of intrigue and murder.

The greater story unfolded in this fascinating book need only detain us momentarily: a secret 'army within an army' called 'The Feather Men' was formed during the 1970s, their purpose being to protect and support former SAS staff. Five former SAS men became the targets of a team of contract killers known as 'The Clinic', who were paid to murder them by the son of an Arabic businessman. Four of the sons of this businessman had been separately killed by the SAS men in question during skirmishes in the Dhofar region of the Arab Emirates in the 1960s and -70s, and the fifth son was determined to honour the principle of thaa'r -- the revenge killing of a relative's murderer.

The Clinic had been watching Major Michael Marman, and had determined that he frequently drove along the A303 arterial road, in Wiltshire, south-west England, on personal business.

While doing this, he was habitually alone, and the fact that his vehicle was a relatively flimsy Citroen 2CV meant that a crash was the perfect method to kill him. Nevertheless, the Clinic dared not tamper with Marman's car or deploy a driver to ram him off the road, since their contractual obligation to make the death appear accidental would almost certainly come unstuck under the slightest police investigation. They therefore decided to use a proxy: an apparently random driver who would unknowingly become the Clinic's untraceable instrument of execution, by colliding with Marman.

Through relatively simple research, they discovered a businessman whose offices were in Plymouth and London, and who regularly drove between the two along the A303 road. This was Air Marshal (ret'd) Sir Peter Horsley, former equerry to the Duke of Edinburgh and to the Queen, and ex-Commander in Chief of Britain's atomic strike force, who now worked for an engineering firm, ML Holdings.

Study and surveillance showed that Sir Peter was due to drive from London to Plymouth for a board meeting on 11 November 1986, at a time which would mean he would pass Major Marman in the opposite direction along the length of the A303. The Clinic then entered Horsely's garage during the night of 10-11 November, and, over an eight-hour period, fitted a 'parasite' braking system in the cavities of his BMW, in such a way that it couldn't be seen on immediate inspection. This radio-controlled system was powered by a scuba-diving cylinder of compressed air, which would allow each of the car's brakes to be applied separately, without the control of the driver.
The next day, having practised their technique for weeks with stock cars and models, two of the Clinic members shadowed Horsely, while keeping in radio communication with a second Clinic team, shadowing Marman. As Marman's 2CV and Horsely's BMW approached each other along the A303, the parasite braking system was applied, and Horsely lost control of his vehicle, which was steered across the central reservation and into Marman's path. the ensuing collision killed Marman outright, and severely injured Horsely. Horsely was initially under suspicion of reckless driving, but fortunately had a witness who had been driving behind him, who testified that he had seen a puff of smoke emerge from the rear of Horsely's car immediately before he lost control: at inquest, the local coroner said the accident would remain unexplained. The more definitely so, since the Clinic's parasite brake-system had been secretly removed after the accident while the BMW was impounded at the police garage facility. The Feather Men, who failed to prevent this assassination, ultimately learned exactly how this scenario unfolded when they captured and interrogated the Clinic's chief assassin.

If this scenario sounds incredible, one should bear in mind that the Chief Feather Man, SAS Commander Tommy MacPherson, allowed his name to be used in Fiennes's book, and revealed that part of the proceeds from sales had gone to the SAS Jubilee Fund. The Clinic's unwitting 'guided missile', Sir Peter Horsely --very much a real person -- recounts his side of this grotesque episode in his 1998 autobiography, Sounds From Another Room. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staged_Vehicle_Accident

In his autobiography, Sounds From Another Room, Horsley says that he was accelerating to about 60 miles an hour when the car began to react strangely. He saw a grey Volvo closing up quickly behind him and as he was about to wave it past, his BMW spun sharply to the left, the brakes screeching, and then sharply to the right and back again. This is remarkably similar to what happened to the Mercedes before it struck the 13th pillar. Horsley was by now desperately trying to maintain control and he went on: “Out of the corner of my eye I saw the grey Volvo accelerating past me at high speed. My car had now developed a mind of its own as it swung broadside and skidded down the road. With a lurch it hit the central reservation, mounted the grass verge separating the two• lanes of the highway and crossed over into the opposite carriageway. I had just time to see a small car approaching from the opposite direction. I hit it sideways on with tremendous force. In a split-second the driver’s horror-stricken face was visible and I heard his hoarse scream.”

Clive Owen explains the plot and its based on the above article....

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0oCUbArfCk

[ThePythonicCow]

... suddenly... the above "sounds" familiar (from this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54022-Former-British-Foreign-Secretary-Died-on-a-hiking-trip-not-long-after-saying-This-...&p=611690&viewfull=1#post611690) <---):
Exactly :).

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[Kimberley]

The below Dutchsince video was taken down and replaced with this one....


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This video is worth it's own thread! imho

A new fresh Sandy Hook thread, PLEASE Ref? or Paul?


Dutchsinse: Time stamps show a month before the shooting a tribute video was uploaded to vimeo!! And more time stamp problems.

This means these people were pre- selected or they are not dead!

Do we have any law enforcment left in our country?

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[Earth Angel]

Archie Bunker on gun control CLjNJI54GMM

He had some good info actually.....he was onto the bankers

[sigma6]

Three Days Before Shooting!!??

“United Way Extends Our Most Sincere Condolences To Sandy Hook Families”

Bombshell:
http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/

[Hervé]

... that makes United Way parts and parcels of the satanist clique of Connecticut.

Here is some pentagrams from New Haven... you know, the home of Yale University of skull & Bone fame:


http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126622/large/20533328_BG2.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126622/full/20533328_BG2.jpg)


Reminiscent of the Bush-Clinton Haiti Relief Fund website which got up days before the actual earthquake... ooopsss...

[TargeT]

... that makes United Way parts and parcels of the satanist clique of Connecticut.

Here is some pentagrams from New Haven... you know, the home of Yale University of skull & Bone fame:


http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126622/large/20533328_BG2.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126622/full/20533328_BG2.jpg)

Unfinished pentagrams (seen above) have a lot of significantce in black magic.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread809135/pg2

[Fred Steeves]

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126622/large/20533328_BG2.jpg (http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/126622/full/20533328_BG2.jpg)



Reminiscent of the Bush-Clinton Haiti Relief Fund website which got up days before the actual earthquake... ooopsss...


Or maybe not so much oops...

[DeDukshyn]

Three Days Before Shooting!!??

“United Way Extends Our Most Sincere Condolences To Sandy Hook Families”

Bombshell:
http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/

On this potential piece of cool evidence, I ask some questions trying to either confirm or deny the possibility that this may or may not be good evidence on the other thread here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54146-Three-Days-Before-Sandy-Hook-Shooting--&p=613667&viewfull=1#post613667

Can anyone confirm or deny what I am putting forth for considerations about the google crawler? Maybe Paul has some idea? I would like to just rule out the possibility of this just being an issue with the way google updates its info before I start using it. I need high quality evidence for my work ;)

If anyone can help, let me know! Thanks! ;)

[161803398]

He thinks the shooting was supposed to be on the 11th but averted by some means on that date and the planners had to scramble around to set things up for the 14th because they are under time pressure for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?kUf9zj5eqjI

[Referee]

Here is some comparisons between known child actors and victims. Intriguing I do not agree with all of the comparisons what do you all think.

Check out the black at white police ladder truck near the end of the video that screams out as botched.

WLz9UkHAMJM

[161803398]

The Mayan connection and child sacrifice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?tN9XnkLsixQ

[Water33/6]

Here is the smoking gun.... Tweet one month before shooting... Even giving names of victims prior. Dutchsinse speaking here...

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=901Ed6Npe4g&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D901Ed6Npe4g%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

[Prodigal Son]

Don't know if this has been posted anywhere yet, but I just came across this article on yahoo.... Media Professor James Tracy of Florida Atlantic University is one "conspiracy theorist" who is getting some attention from the MSM without being called a nut job. I think this can only help....

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/professor-won-t-back-down-newtown-massacre-conspiracy-183530799.html

[161803398]

(NaturalNews) What you are about to read is astonishing. I'm not even sure what's the right conclusion to draw from it. But here's what we know so far:

John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it's a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.

According to the Outdoor Wire, his car "traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected."

But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, "What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?"

That was the last post he ever made. (Full text below.)

Mysterious death during gun control debate raises questions
John Noveske wasn't the first prominent gun rights supporter to be killed in the last few days. Keith Ratliff, the creator of a super-popular YouTube channel featuring videos of exotic weapons, was also recently found dead.

The Daily Mail reports that Ratliff was "discovered on a rural road in Carnesville, Georgia. Ratliff had a single gunshot wound the head and police are treating his death as a homicide."

Someone murdered Ratliff, in other words, and it had to be someone with the ability to get close enough to Ratliff to take him out without warning.

Beyond these two shootings, the widely-discredited CNN journalist Piers Morgan, wanted for questioning in Britain's Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal, invited guests onto his show who threatened Alex Jones' children and laughed about the idea of Piers Morgan shooting Alex Jones with an AR-15.

That astonishing video interview is available at:
www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jon...

Steve Quayle, creator of SteveQuayle.com, says "the red list is on!" This refers to the so-called "red list" -- a secret kill list of Americans authorized by Obama and designed to be invoked immediately before an attempted radical leftist takeover of the nation. In support of this theory, Obama himself actually signed into law the NDAA which authorizes secret assassinations of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

Instead of the red list being "conspiracy theory," it appears to be a key component of Obama's domestic policy.

Beyond coincidence: Pieces of the puzzle rapidly coming together
Sure, a car crash involving John Noveske could be a coincidence. It could also be a coincidence that no video footage has been released from Sandy Hook showing Adam Lanza carrying any rifle whatsoever.

It might also be a coincidence that Dianne Feinstein just happened to have her detailed gun confiscation bill ready to release immediately following the Sandy Hook shooting.

It might also be a total coincidence that according to Google.com, the United Way Sandy Hook donation support page was created on December 11, 2012 -- a full three days before the shooting took place.

It could also be a total coincidence that NBC News reported Adam Lanza's AR-15 rifle was left in his car and was never used in the shooting at all.

I suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook shooting.

And it could be coincidence that Facebook suspended or shut down the accounts of hundreds of prominent people who advocated the Second Amendment, including our account here at Natural News.

And finally, it could be a total coincidence that police radio recordings seem to indicate there were multiple shooters involved in Sandy Hook.

But what are the odds of ALL of these coincidences existing simultaneously? Those odds are virtually zero.

Something's fishy with all this. It's becoming increasingly apparent that an order has come down from the very top to destroy, silence, threaten or execute true American patriots. Steve Quayle has long predicted this would be the very first step before foreign troops are unleashed on American soil to take over the country and deliver it, just as Obama has always planned, into the hands of the globalist crime syndicate.

It all sounds outrageous, I admit, and I'm not even sure what to believe myself. But it's becoming more difficult by the day to deny actual events happening right before our eyes. Believe what you will, but don't be surprised if people like Steve Quayle and Alex Jones were right all along. If we see any more mysterious deaths of prominent gun advocates, it going to raise huge red flags across the patriot community.

Read John Noveske's last Facebook post
This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.

http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html#ixzz2HaUqWRH7





http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html

[Alan]

Three Days Before Shooting!!??

“United Way Extends Our Most Sincere Condolences To Sandy Hook Families”

Bombshell:
http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/

On this potential piece of cool evidence, I ask some questions trying to either confirm or deny the possibility that this may or may not be good evidence on the other thread here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54146-Three-Days-Before-Sandy-Hook-Shooting--&p=613667&viewfull=1#post613667

Can anyone confirm or deny what I am putting forth for considerations about the google crawler? Maybe Paul has some idea? I would like to just rule out the possibility of this just being an issue with the way google updates its info before I start using it. I need high quality evidence for my work ;)

If anyone can help, let me know! Thanks! ;)

The date that appears next to Google search results is neither (a) in the web page itself nor (b) the time that Google cached the web page.

I presented conclusive evidence of this in the other thread, yet no one seems to care. (shrug)

[Alan]

Mike Adams and Natural News knew about Sandy Hook on Dec 11 also!!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

19996

[Earth Angel]

seems this link no longer works........ it takes you to a page with lots of images and descriptions of Sandy Hoax type youtubes, but everyone I clicked on just disappeared and the next one on the list came up top......nothing opened.


Here is the smoking gun.... Tweet one month before shooting... Even giving names of victims prior. Dutchsinse speaking here...

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=901Ed6Npe4g&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D901Ed6Npe4g%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

[Wind]

I haven't really wanted to focus too much on this story, but the more I hear about it makes me just wonder... Those Moloch worshippers are really practicing their dark magic, aren't they? Many have said that there were no even bodies to be found? Is that true? Sounds really sinister to me. I don't like how this story is being played out. It's certainly not over yet.

New moon tomorrow btw.

[meat suit]

seems this link no longer works........ it takes you to a page with lots of images and descriptions of Sandy Hoax type youtubes, but everyone I clicked on just disappeared and the next one on the list came up top......nothing opened.


Here is the smoking gun.... Tweet one month before shooting... Even giving names of victims prior. Dutchsinse speaking here...

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=901Ed6Npe4g&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D901Ed6Npe4g%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded

he took it down and put this up: http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse?feature=g-subs-u

[DeDukshyn]

Three Days Before Shooting!!??

“United Way Extends Our Most Sincere Condolences To Sandy Hook Families”

Bombshell:
http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/

On this potential piece of cool evidence, I ask some questions trying to either confirm or deny the possibility that this may or may not be good evidence on the other thread here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54146-Three-Days-Before-Sandy-Hook-Shooting--&p=613667&viewfull=1#post613667

Can anyone confirm or deny what I am putting forth for considerations about the google crawler? Maybe Paul has some idea? I would like to just rule out the possibility of this just being an issue with the way google updates its info before I start using it. I need high quality evidence for my work ;)

If anyone can help, let me know! Thanks! ;)

The date that appears next to Google search results is neither (a) in the web page itself nor (b) the time that Google cached the web page.

I presented conclusive evidence of this in the other thread, yet no one seems to care. (shrug)


Thanks you for confirming my suspicions; I think we can knock this one off the discrepancies list. ... I never saw your other post, was expecting a reply to mine (I rely on the auto-notifier a lot). ;)

I'll make sure the other thread gives you the credit you deserve ;)
Thanks again!

[Wookie]

I herd about another school shooting today in California. California sheriff: Youth who shot classmate felt he'd been bullied (http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/us/california-school-shooting/index.html)
Did anyone else find the "featured" sheriff's name disturbing?

Peaceful Journeys Wookie

[161803398]

I herd about another school shooting today in California. California sheriff: Youth who shot classmate felt he'd been bullied
Did anyone else find the "featured" sheriff's name disturbing?

I've always wondered whether these jerks have one writer or a whole team of writers. Or maybe they just get drunk and come up with this stuff while they are yucking it up.

[meat suit]

more from dutchsinse,

it turns out time stamps can be changed... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p_U47N9tFY

[SilentFeathers]

James F. Tracy PhD, Associate Professor of Media Studies at Florida Atlantic University Interview.

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The blog timeline:
http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/06/sandy-hook-school-massacre-timeline/

[Slorri]

Regarding the link to "Christopher Rodia", have you seen the note on this video?
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Also this video covers that incident:
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[SilentFeathers]

In hindsight...

Think about the Sandy Hook shooting while watching this! Especially the initial eyewitness testimonies and officials making statements about the event, it suspiciously mirrors Sandy Hook reporting methods/anomalies.

Watching the whole "Holmes Documentary" is not necessary to see these anomalies.....

The James Holmes Conspiracy (2012 Full Documentary)
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[SilentFeathers]

The Lodge probably just a "coincidence" too..... everything else is.

Masonic Lodge in back of Sandy Hook School

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A lot of info at this site:
http://www.brendanhunt.com/

[Mozart]

http://benjaminfulford.net/2013/01/14/signs-of-cabal-defeat-are-proliferating/#comment-192448



On that note, the question of how long Obama will remain in power also remains unanswered. The gnostic illuminati say the staged Sandy Hook shooting incident may prove to be fatal for the Obama regime. The evidence that this was a staged mass shooting or else kidnapping of kids for Satanic ceremonies is becoming overwhelming. Here, for example, is Obama posing for a photo with one of the victims two days after she was supposed to have been shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ouTA9sniwo

Here is another link:

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/12/sandy-hook-mass-media-psyop-outtakes-and-bloopers-2447064.html

It may be that the entire Sandy Hook psychological warfare operation was deliberately sabotaged so that it would rebound back on the regime. The “personal fitness boot camp,” that Obama was forced to attend is pentagon talk for a disciplinary session, according to a Pentagon source. The military are, in fact, very upset about this incident and are trying to locate the children and round up the paedophilic Satanists who were entrapped by this flawed psy-ops.

[Earth Angel]

The old guy who took in the kids and read stories to them the day of the shooting is being harassed by conspiracy theorists..... Read the comments below the article , its disturbing how many people feel this way....to be one of those Nut Jobs they are referring to I have to say...what I don't get is how did a group of 6 year olds escape the class while a mad gunman was on the loose?? they were apparently in Miss Soto's class who lost her life protecting her students.....how did these kids suddenly end up in the driveway of a house with their bus driver?? Wasn't this school equipped with security, screening, doorbell etc to even get in, so how did they just get out and run off ? I don't see any houses anywhere near the school, I believe they would have had to pass the fire station to get to any houses.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html

a lot of Guests on this thread.......3 members 46 guests

[donk]

Wiedner (on Rense) had a lot of interesting things to say about:

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[gooty64]

Great video/radio program donk, i'm delighted;) that you posted it.


Wiedner (on Rense) had a lot of interesting things to say about:

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[donk]

Weidner's one of my favorites, I get excited everytime I see a new interview....glad you liked it.

[Earth Angel]

what I don't get is Weidner states (and others), that something is very wrong with the scene at the school, no sign of ambulances with injured or bodies being removed ... they are parked down the road at the firehouse and don't seem to be moving........and all relatives, school staff, siblings are unemotional robots BUT he maintains that of course people died here......what proof do we have of that ?? no bodies seen? no one has ever heard from Adam Lanza since 2009, he could have died years ago, its like people are afraid to say that its possible NOBODY was actually killed......where is the proof?? nothing but MSM reporting that it happened, so it did ????

Also although I agree the nurse did change her story from one interview to the next ie she was under the desk WITH the secretary and then next telling she was under the desk saw his feet and then he left and THEN the Secretary came in to her office........but people are also claiming she changed her story from looking the killer in the eye, to looking at the shooters legs from under her desk......there is NO footage of her saying she looked him in the eye, only a MSM reporter CLAIMING she met the nurse and talked to her (but somehow forgot to record or film) and was told she had looked him straight in the eyes......Now I get that this nurse comes across completely unbelievable as some one who knew these kids and was in that situation, she is completely calm without a tear as she talks, and her accounting of the desk/shooter/secretary is a bit mixed up, but do we believe this reporter that she said she looked him in the eyes or was that more BS to keep the ratings high for her network??

[gooty64]

EA, i took Weidner as taking the middle conspiracy road by not saying the massacre didn't take place and not elaborating on it being a satanic sacrifice etc.
I agree with you though, what evidence does he have that people/children actually died.
I think it's the archontic/psychopathic energy that we can't relate to that staged and did this event/massacre.
It's over a month now, i doubt a real smoking gun or the truth will come out at this point.

[SilentFeathers]

Has Adam Lanza Even Been Alive The Last 3 Years?
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[InTheBackground]

The old guy who took in the kids and read stories to them the day of the shooting is being harassed by conspiracy theorists..... Read the comments below the article , its disturbing how many people feel this way....to be one of those Nut Jobs they are referring to I have to say...what I don't get is how did a group of 6 year olds escape the class while a mad gunman was on the loose?? they were apparently in Miss Soto's class who lost her life protecting her students.....how did these kids suddenly end up in the driveway of a house with their bus driver?? Wasn't this school equipped with security, screening, doorbell etc to even get in, so how did they just get out and run off ? I don't see any houses anywhere near the school, I believe they would have had to pass the fire station to get to any houses.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html

a lot of Guests on this thread.......3 members 46 guests

To add to your questions, Earth Angel, why would a bus driver -- and never mind the question why did a bus driver have these kids, considering it was 9:30 a.m., don't bus drivers just leave after dropping the kids off? Ours do... -- but why would a bus driver, a person who by profession is charged with the safety of students while they have them in their possession, just up and leave presumably horribly traumatized kids with a complete stranger? Where did the supposed bus driver go, exactly?

[Hervé]

Getting murkier than ever... see this video posted by Gordon Duff of VT which seems to contradict what I brought up in post # 407 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=612178&viewfull=1#post612178):


hH_LZiEAI9A


From the comment section on that article (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/16/obama-gun-address-misses-real-terrorism-threat/):


https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash4/372559_660054126_266310749_q.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/terry.bartlett.50) Terry Bartlett (http://www.facebook.com/terry.bartlett.50)
Take that video down! That IS NOT Rodia's car! We cleared that up weeks ago! You do a disservice! How about we scream out LIBOR again as well with absolutely zero evidence to support it? Way to make those who believe the hoax story look like idiots. Cmon!
3 hours ago (http://www.facebook.com/plugins/comments_v1.php?app_id=186129858162243&xid=6s5xckRpSQiIWmz_post236190&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.veteranstoday.com%2F2013%2F01%2F16%2Fobama-gun-address-misses-real-terrorism-threat%2F&fb_comment_id=fbc_333899656718595_1743884_333904346718126)


https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/48909_836613775_8350_q.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/gordon.duff.121)Gordon Duff (http://www.facebook.com/gordon.duff.121) · Top Commenter


police disagree with you

2 hours ago


https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn1/48909_836613775_8350_q.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/gordon.duff.121)Gordon Duff (http://www.facebook.com/gordon.duff.121) · Top Commenter


do this...tell me why the police describe Rodia's car as a "possible suspect vehicle" and we can talk. your response is insubstantial. I did supply the evidence, I have the DMV check on the car.

What do you have?
Are you Sorcha Faal?


· 2 hours ago

[Hervé]

A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.

You'll have to skip a whole article to find that sentence at the bottom of it...

Full article: http://newtownbee.com/News/2012-12-27__14-58-27/Police%20Union%20Seeks%20Funding%20For%20Trauma%20Treatment

[Gardener]

Many people have described what they heard, and used the words 'popping sound', does that sound feasable, that they would all use that term, given the type of gun/guns that were allegedly used?

[Bill Ryan]

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Read this important Camelot page:

http://projectcamelot.org/svali.html

Svali is the pseudonym of a female Illuminati whistleblower, who for many years was based in San Diego. She fled after converting to Christianity, and is an astoundingly brave woman. Her testimony is spine-chilling. I am in no doubt that it's all true.

On the page is a link (http://projectcamelot.org/svali.mp3) to an interview she did with Greg Szymanski a few years ago in which the recounts her witnessing a child sacrifice in the Vatican (as a young child herself). This is not for the faint-hearted. I've listened to it once only, and was glad I did; but once was enough, and I'll never forget it. It's forever etched on my mind.

Here's the connection. I am seriously beginning to think that the entire Sandy Hook event, complicit parents and all, was an Illuminati (not USG or DHS) operation. Read Svali's testimony, and I welcome all comments.

[Hervé]

That has been on my mind for quite a while especially since New Haven and Skull & Bones' Yale are only a stone-throw away (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53354-The-Dead-Sandy-Hook-Kids-MAY-STILL-BE-ALIVE-NOW&p=602974&viewfull=1#post602974) <---)

[jagman]

This whole story gets stranger by the day. I feel like i'm living in bizarro world. Fred S is right. These people are creepy. They remind me of the movie "Stepford Wives"

[Bill Ryan]

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I wrote above: (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=617730&viewfull=1#post617730)





Read this important Camelot page:

http://projectcamelot.org/svali.html

Svali is the pseudonym of a female Illuminati whistleblower, who for many years was based in San Diego. She fled after converting to Christianity, and is an astoundingly brave woman. Her testimony is spine-chilling. I am in no doubt that it's all true.

On the page is a link (http://projectcamelot.org/svali.mp3) to an interview she did with Greg Szymanski a few years ago in which the recounts her witnessing a child sacrifice in the Vatican (as a young child herself). This is not for the faint-hearted. I've listened to it once only, and was glad I did; but once was enough, and I'll never forget it. It's forever etched on my mind.

Here's the connection. I am seriously beginning to think that the entire Sandy Hook event, complicit parents and all, was an Illuminati (not USG or DHS) operation. Read Svali's testimony, and I welcome all comments.

Having now listened to Jay Weidner's excellent interview with Jeff Rense here (must listen)...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw


... Weidner is saying exactly the same thing.

Archons = Illuminati = a millennia-old strategic plan devoted to the takeover and trashing of Planet Earth and the human race. The Apocryphal Book of Enoch (http://projectavalon.net/Fallen_Angels_and_the_Origins_of_Evil_Elizabeth_Clare_Prophet.pdf), heavily suppressed by the early Church and only rediscovered in Ethiopia in 1773, also states exactly the same thing. It all fits.

[Carmody]

Many people have described what they heard, and used the words 'popping sound', does that sound feasable, that they would all use that term, given the type of gun/guns that were allegedly used?

5.56 rifles and handguns don't sound all that different, in this context. That a 5.56 bushmaster type caliber rifle and a handgun each fired in a classroom of that type design, would be hard to differentiate from one another, when heard from outside. Unless the person hearing them was very familiar with the issues at hand, regarding what they where hearing.

In the acoustics of large empty classrooms, with big glass windows on the one side..which is normal in the west, regarding classroom design.... the transient or sound of the projectile launch system...ie..the guns involved...would sound quite a bit like a popping noise. This, as heard from from outside, as transmitted through a large group of 'normal' western designed classroom windows.

Differentiating the two sounds, to tell the difference between the sound of a 5.56 and lets say a 40 semi auto handgun or a 9mm handgun, would require that both the listener and the weapon be fired outside, in a fairly open space.

The dominant shaper of the given sound, in the speculated situation, is the classroom acoustics and it's associated build parameters. Only if the speculated weapons where greatly separated in design and caliber, would it be easier to tell them apart. (eg, 12g shotgun and a 22 pistol.)

I mention the bushmaster and a handgun, as I have not delved too deeply into this, and my recollection is that handguns and a 5.56 semi-auto rifle where the 'bandied about' items in the situation.

I hear gunfire all day (beside two gun ranges), besides having a good solid background in the sciences of the situation and knowing weapons, and a whole bunch of other stuff tied to understanding such a specific scenario of what may have been heard. Mine is a very informed opinion.

That people may have watched quite a bit of TV and movies, but all that is electronic and assisted acoustic/sonic fakery and does not represent reality, it is designed to make sure you get the flavour and the point. The reality of the sounds is less dramatic and less defined -in the real world. That the real sounds are much louder and sharper, but drop of in intensity fairly quickly, as one is distanced away from the source. That no known home theater can accurately reproduce the sound of a medium caliber gun fired indoors, as heard from indoors. That microphones tend to break when confronted with the sound of a weapon fired at close range. Special microphones where designed for the capture of the Saturn V rocket's sound, the ones that that sent the astronauts into orbit, in the 60's.

[Isserley]

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She fled after converting to Christianity, and is an astoundingly brave woman. Her testimony is spine-chilling. I am in no doubt that it's all true...


Svalis story is really terrible..
But I do not understand - after what she experienced at the Vatican - why would she convert to Christianity? :confused:

[yukondiva]

I do have to say i lived w one of the invitors of the internet had not seen him in years when we end up in Florida at my daughters house( he is from sanfranasisco im from alaska) well i just have to pick peoples brains ( he is a aspie so is my son) we spent four days and nights holed up in a roomdiscussing alot one was how not to be tracked on the internet. There are programs hackers use i believe one of them is( trojan horse). This will not reveal ip addresses or your server:-)

[Hervé]

Well... more discrepancies:

From a comment on some article bashing curious enquiring people as "Conspiracy nutters":



OK-Firefighter
January 17, 2013 14:41


I am a firefighter/EMT, and I can tell you from personal experience the scene is a little questionable. One reason the ambulances/fire trucks wait behind the yellow tape is to preserve evidence, and make sure the scene is safe for EMS personnel. Typically, when you arrive on a crime scene of this nature EMS would arrange a triage center. EMS crew would asses the patient, and the most critical patients would be transported to the ER first. So being you don't see a triage center is a little questionable. Also, when your working with blood everywhere your going to be wearing maximum PPE (personal protective equipment) i.e gloves, eye protection, mask to assure that you don't retract a disease. I didn't see any EMS or police wearing gloves. Another thing, when your working with multiple casualties you would go through a lot of PPE I don't see any laying around either? The medic on scene is going to asses every patient whether he thinks they're dead or alive with a 12 lead to see if there is a heart beat. The medic would change gloves after every patient, and probably through gloves on the ground. After, EMS leaves the fire department or a bio hazard crew would come clean up the mess. I didn't see no such crew either. I believe there are some questions that need to be answered.

[Daughter of Time]

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She fled after converting to Christianity, and is an astoundingly brave woman. Her testimony is spine-chilling. I am in no doubt that it's all true...


Svalis story is really terrible..
But I do not understand - after what she experienced at the Vatican - why would she convert to Christianity? :confused:

The Vatican is much more connected to Satanism than to the Christ. Their pretense to venerate the Christ is nothing but theatricality.

I believe Svali turned to Christianity because she was seeking cleansing and redemption from a source of loving light, namely, the Christ, which is diametrically opposed to what the Vatican is at its core.

[Cidersomerset]

A lot of these incidences are linked I have not followed this thread ( there are so many )But listening To Jay say he would not go on jesses
show again because of the way he treated David Icke, prompted me to post this on this thread.Michael Shrimpton does make a comment
amongst all the other allegations that Sandy Hook was a German intel/Mexican operation on behalfe of TPTB...Not a lot to go on but this interview
is very shocking in his allegations and he is a Barrister. A lot of which concur withsubjects we discuss..

QNelt33QP_8

more detail on the links if interrested..British Prime minister Edward Heath
peadophile murderer part of a establishment peadophile ring. Children have
always been sacificed since ancient times, possibly to apease interdimetional
entities.As David says the sacrifice of virgins is code for children...
But that goes down another rabbit hole ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54465-A-Most-Amazing-interview-from-Barrister-Author-Michael-Shrimpton-Collumist-Veterans-Today&p=617936&viewfull=1#post617936

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----&p=618205&viewfull=1#post618205

The below post /article is by Michael Shrimpton....

[Cidersomerset]

I don't know if this article has already been posted , but he does point
out as David Icke and others have.Thomas Hamilton the gunman in
the Dunblane child massacre was a precurer of children to the elites...



Gun Control After Sandy Hook
By Michael Shrimpton

Happy New Year everyone.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ScreenHunter_1090-Dec.-31-21.06-320x262.jpg


A good friend in academe has sent me a copy of an excellent article by Professor
Joyce Malcolm of the excellent Georgetown University Law School, published in the
Wall Street Journal. She points out, correctly, that after the Dunblane School
Massacre we in Britain made the same error Obama is now urging on Congress.

A savage crackdown on handguns was rushed through the House of Commons.

Badly drafted, in the midst of a moral panic, the Firearms Act is a classic example
of a bad law. The claimed intent was to ‘reduce gun crime.’ Since the problem at
Dunblane was that Thomas Hamilton was running a pedophile ring and supplying
young boys for abuse to inter alia senior police officers the new legislation was
never going to prevent another massacre, nor did it.

Whilst Hamilton was shot by a police officer (in an execution-style shooting, at
close range, to make sure he never talked) the politicians and police officers who
made sure existing firearms controls were circumvented were never prosecuted.
Indeed there was a sordid, Sandy Hook style, cover-up. The incident helped to
shatter confidence in the police in well-informed circles, including the Tory Party
and Freemasonry. I am not a Mason by the way, although I have cordial relations
with them and do not subscribe to the silly conspiracy theories about them you
often find on the Internet. They tend to be very nice people. The Grand Master, if
I may say so, is a particularly nice chap.

I am sure the poor parents of the children so disgracefully murdered at Dunblane
did not want a massive increase in gun crime in Britain. That is what they helped
bring about however. It has more than doubled since, even on official figures. The
crackle of gunfire is not an unknown sound in Britain’s inner cities these days, sadly.

The reasons why the post-Dunblane crackdown failed are all too obvious. Gun
crime by registered gun owners has never been a particularly severe problem in
either Britain or America. All you do when you deprive law-abiding people of
firearms is to make it safer for gun-toting criminals to commit crime.
Since it is now clear there were three shooters at Sandy Hook it is almost irrelevant
that two of the guns used may have been lawfully registered, although every
aspect of the official narratives of Sandy Hook must be now be called into
question. The same goes for Norway – there were at least two shooters on the
island. What matters is who sets up these shootings and why. The individual
political leanings or mental states of particular shooters don’t matter very much in
the great scheme of things. We need to concentrate on the organ-grinders, not the
monkeys.

Word on the street is that the organisational and logistic aspects of the Sandy Hook
shootings were set up by the ‘Latin Kings’ narcotics gang, who are said to have
assets in Newtown police. That would make sense, since these days they tend to
be tied into Mexico. The Federated Mexican States have been a German client-
state since at least 1917. The current inter-cartel wars reflect the vicious factional
battle inside the DVD between the ‘ST’ and ‘KR’ factions, as I have described them
in Spyhunter. Corrupting local police departments is a known DVD tactic, which is
not confined to Thames Valley. The factional conflict inside DVD is a rich source of
intelligence by the way, as the factions keep shopping each other.

The DVD always stay deep, but I do deep. The DEA officially do not know me but
they do. I suspect my stock there has risen since I have been warning of increased
German intelligence activity in Mexico for at least 8 years now.Sandy Hook will lead
to increased intelligence focus on the Latin Kings gang. Given their Chicago roots
there is bound to be speculation about links between them and the notoriously
corrupt Obama Administration.

I think the point being made by a number of folk about the possibility of supposedly
dead children having survived Sandy Hook is a good one. There do seem to have
been some extraordinary restrictions on taking DNA tests, viewing the bodies
before burial and so on. The way in which Lanza’s body was released to a non-
family member, before a thorough autopsy, also calls for comment. Everything
about Sandy Hook is now up for discussion.

The Russian SATINT has become even more crucial, as it may show children being
led away from the school. Moscow seem to have acquired some serious leverage
over the Administration, which we may see reflected in policy on the Syrian Civil
War. If we have kidnapped kiddies I want them rescued, but as with Madeleine
McCann I seem to be in a minority within INTELCOM. The politics of a successful
rescue mission are very messy indeed.

The parents deserve the truth, but they are unlikely to get it, unless they start
reading Veterans Today, or the NRA have an attack of the smarts and start
probing. They will not get the truth from the mainstream media, or the
Administration. They can’t even get the President’s resume right, no offense
intended.

Michael Shrimpton

January 1st 2013.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/31/gun-control-after-sandy-hook/

[Hervé]

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[...]

Having now listened to Jay Weidner's excellent interview with Jeff Rense here (must listen)...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw


... Weidner is saying exactly the same thing.

Archons = Illuminati = a millennia-old strategic plan devoted to the takeover and trashing of Planet Earth and the human race. The Apocryphal Book of Enoch (http://projectavalon.net/Fallen_Angels_and_the_Origins_of_Evil_Elizabeth_Clare_Prophet.pdf), heavily suppressed by the early Church and only rediscovered in Ethiopia in 1773, also states exactly the same thing. It all fits.


********************************

In that same vein:

From http://offplanetradio.com/podcast/steve-richards-psychotropic-soul-harvest.html#entry32540922:

Steve Richards: Psychotropic Soul Harvest (http://offplanetradio.com/podcast/steve-richards-psychotropic-soul-harvest.html)

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Psychotronic Soul Harvest Steve Richards Interview-January 1, 2013:



http://www.holographickinetics.net/


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Steve Richards contacted me with some insights and concerns related to the Sandy Hook shootings, and the wider scope of the induced altered states stemming from the widespread dosing of the world's populace with psychoactive prescription drugs:

"We must start looking at the bigger picture as medication can opens wormholes into other dimensions, allowing other forces to take over the body, theses invading beings need to traumatize the spirit, so they can get access to the Soul and entrap it in the game of the future. Every mass killer in the USA, was on some form of medication, as this is the time of the harvest, mass trauma is needed to entrap the souls of the masses, into the cycles of the future. Please watch this YouTube video fully, to understand part of what is going on...




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Dreamtime healing using holographic kinetics is an understanding of 60,000 years of Aboriginal knowledge it covers 40 years of research into how to access the cause of any created effect including accessing and clearing these forces from human bodies. It is understand all creation is linked to its own dimension of time, that includes mans thoughts."

We are at war with another dimension that has been manipulating this dimension since the creation of man begun.

We need to ask:

WHY is mental health not dealing with the cause of those effects?

Who benefits from millions made from drugs and medication?

Why take advice from an organization that is not getting results and ignore ones that are?

Where are the statistics of the amount of people that committed suicide that were on known or forced medication?

Where are the statistics of the amount of patients that died through kidney or liver failure due to the forced medication?

How many political parties get donations from the pharmaceutical companies, therefore have a vested interest, in not wanting a change?

Who is influencing and manipulating the bodies of these people?




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Additional Links:
Citizen's Commission On Human Rights International-Articles Tagged Psychiatric Drugs (http://www.cchrint.org/tag/psychiatric-drugs/)
Russia Today’s Video Exposé “Schools, Guns & Drugs” with Michael Moore, Dr. Peter Breggin & More (http://www.cchrint.org/2013/01/12/russia-today-schools-guns-drugs-video-expose/)

ABC NEWS Medical Unit Psychotropic Drugs: What Are They? (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/12/02/what-you-need-to-know-about-psychotropic-drugs/)

Steve Richards: Psychotropic Soul Harvest (http://www.divshare.com/direct/23078710-a62.mp3)

[jackovesk]

Not sure if this has been posted yet..? If so - Mods please remove...

JoyceRileyPowerHour


Former US Naval Law Enforcement Veteran and US Army Infantry/Reconnaissance Military Veteran MIKE POWERS has found glaring inconsistencies regarding the Sandy Hook shooting and will be breaking it down for us. We must understand that this is the elephant in the living room and must be shared with everyone that you know. This is a CAN’T MISS SHOW and of the utmost importance that we understand what is really going on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SK8tLX6VQp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SK8tLX6VQp4

[Cidersomerset]

fighting the wrong enemy? In 2008, prescription drugs killed approximately 14,800 people and in New York City Mayor Bloomberg have stated the use of pain killers has become a national epidemic.

Thats five times more killed than 9/11 !!!




An interresting item about presciption drug abuse......It does not stop
all these psycotropics being used,and abused by a lazy medical world
in the pocket of 'Big Pharma' but it maybe a start to ween us of
the idea theres a 'magic' pill for everything....and from there !!

uHxNbOJTlEk

Published on 18 Jan 2013


The US has been fighting the war on drugs for decades, but is the government
fighting the wrong enemy? In 2008, prescription drugs killed approximately 14,800
people and in New York City Mayor Bloomberg have stated the use of pain killers
has become a national epidemic. Spanish tennis superstar Rafael Nadal is named
among the drugs victims - he is now in a force break from the sport to recover from
the injures. There are speculations among some sport fans that Nadal's force break
might have more to do with the pain killers. Doctor of Psychology Jennifer Sontz,
joins us to discuss the growing problem of pain killer abuse.

[Bill Ryan]

Former US Naval Law Enforcement Veteran and US Army Infantry/Reconnaissance Military Veteran MIKE POWERS has found glaring inconsistencies regarding the Sandy Hook shooting and will be breaking it down for us. We must understand that this is the elephant in the living room and must be shared with everyone that you know. This is a CAN’T MISS SHOW and of the utmost importance that we understand what is really going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SK8tLX6VQp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SK8tLX6VQp4

On it now. A very, very detailed perspective from a highly impressive, military-trained investigator.

MUST LISTEN. This is extraordinary material. The list of inexplicable anomalies grows and grows and grows.

[ThePythonicCow]

On it now. A very, very detailed perspective from a highly impressive, military-trained investigator.

MUST LISTEN. This is extraordinary material. The list of inexplicable anomalies grows and grows and grows.

Thanks for the heads up, Bill. I get more time than most to read and view much of what's posted here, but even I can't get to it all. I'd might have missed this one had you not called it out.

Listening now :).

[Bill Ryan]

On it now. A very, very detailed perspective from a highly impressive, military-trained investigator.

MUST LISTEN. This is extraordinary material. The list of inexplicable anomalies grows and grows and grows.

Thanks for the heads up, Bill. I get more time than most to read and view much of what's posted here, but even I can't get to it all. I'd might have missed this one had you not called it out.

Listening now :).

It might worth making some notes for members here summarizing the key points -- some of which are quite new, even after watching the very detailed "Fully Exposed" video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8)

I'm listening to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SK8tLX6VQp4) with some astonishment. It was hard to imagine that there was even more that makes almost no sense at all. (Here's a taster: this investigator, with professional resources at his disposal, has not yet been able to confirm that Adam Lanza even existed. And that's just the start of it.)

[Carmody]

psychotropic drugs=Big pharma=I.G. Farben=Nazi war machine=skull and bones=CIA=black ops projects=secret societies=Federal reserve bank owners=J.P.Morgan banking companies=Council on foreign relations= .... and so on.

a perfect and linear factual level of direct connection, a perfect and real data path can be drawn between them all.

The author Joseph P. Farrell having done much of the research work in that area, and he fully backs every single statement with quite complete records and paths of information flow.

[Carmody]

speaking of false flags.

There was a situation that emerged in the easternmost push of the Nazi war machine, into Russia.

That the Germans, in this particular instance, were attempting to cross a river, near a town/city that they where preparing to 'blitzkreig', in their then current fashion. To make war with this town/city. They had to get their gear across the river, first, then move to the out of sight and distant city/town.

But that the season was one of changing conditions. That only ONE boat, with an officer and some soldiers and minimal gear..managed to cross.... before the river ice formed/collapsed from the changing weather.

The officer and his few men and bits where trapped on the one side. The wrong side. Oops.

So..the officer gathered his men and gear..and went toward the town. He stopped on the outskirts of the town/city and looked around with his binoculars.

He spotted a very high rampart and told his given soldier(s) to go and place the Nazi flag from that highest rampart.

Then he approached the leaders of the city town and pointed at the flag in the highest ramparts. He told them that they where surrounded and that a mass slaughter would ensue if they did not surrender, immediately.

~~~~~~~
A few days later, the main German force finally managed to get enough gear across the river.

They moved to the town to see what had gone on with their one small group that was there completely on their own, on this opposite side of the river, and this coming battle with the town/city forces and location.

They drove into a completely surrendered town/city...and...they found their officer in a hotel, drunk, in bed...with a couple of prostitutes.

~~~~~~~~
That appearances can be completely deceiving.

This is the sort of thing that is the core component of a con.

[heyokah]

More discrepancies.....




Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters


Thursday, January 10, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com


(NaturalNews) What you are about to read is astonishing. I'm not even sure what's the right conclusion to draw from it. But here's what we know so far:

John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it's a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.

According to the Outdoor Wire, his car "traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected."

But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, "What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?"

That was the last post he ever made. (Full text below.)


http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html

[Carmody]

This is becoming, regarding shaping of a reality, a VERY seriously obvious push to disarm America, to collapse America... after it has been used and abused...as a weapon... to subjugate the rest of the world.

Like the man with the machine gun, in Germany, or Poland, who, as a outsider conscript, has a gun put to his head by a German SS officer, so that he uses the tripod mounted sub-machine gun on the long row of people that are standing along the long deep pit, with the bag of lime on the side.

If he refuses to kill the row of innocents and unwanted, he will be killed, shot by the officer.

Once he shoots all those people... they shoot him regardless....and throw is body in with the rest.

This is not new, this is as old as the hills, when it comes to evidence of this exact scenario in the past and situations in kind and similarity - in the past.

It is the easiest kind of con of all, this sort of false flag, as end points and actions go...as the people involved and outside of the direct aspects of the con.. simply cannot handle the truth of what has been done to and with them.

They work hard to not see the truth of it, and thus the con can roll on... right under and in their very noses.