What Really Happened at Sandy Hook?? [Archive] - Page 3 - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Jeffrey

18th January 2013, 22:02

The following was copied and pasted from: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_artificialhumans01.htm

Human Simulacra: The Manipulation of Society via Artificial/Reprogrammed Humans
by Montalk

What if you were to discover that certain individuals in government, corporations, military, academia, media, and the alternative research community are either reprogrammed versions of their former selves or artificial beings entirely?

What if you learned these were under the complete control of covert forces possessing a vested interest in manipulating society?

Then you would see a hidden order beneath the chaos in current affairs that leaves others with more limited understanding shaking their heads in puzzlement.
This document is a compilation of sources discussing various aspects of the human simulacrum phenomenon: the strategic and covert replacement, reprogramming, or artificial creation of individuals to function as total societal control devices.

Multiple descriptive terms exist for these creatures: organic robotoids, reanimated humans, synthetics, clones, duplicates, doubles, look-alikes, replicants, robots, and cybergenetic humanoids. Although these terms differ in their precise definition, they concern themselves with the same general phenomenon of impostors.

The information presented here approaches the subject from angles that vary in their accuracy, so it is the reader’s responsibility to discern which viewpoints are viable, relevant, and functional. What is provided should be sufficient to give direction for further research and allow the reader to correlate these concepts with personal experience and observation.

My intent is to provide clarification and elaboration where necessary and give guidance as to the proper use of this potential knowledge.

There are two dangers regarding the reception of this knowledge: ignorance and misuse. The danger of ignorance is misconception, stemming from force-fitting into a limited viewpoint those facts originating beyond; gullibility, arising from failing to perceive such facts at all; and frustration, which comes with holding others to a standard not in accordance with who they really are. The danger of misuse includes obsession with the subject, fascination solely out of being entertained by the bizarre, having one’s vision colored rather than expanded, seeing danger where there is none, and worrying about that which one cannot change.

Proper use of this knowledge requires bringing it into consideration when other explanations fail, seeing patterns that one would otherwise miss, and most of all, avoiding the frustration and gullibility experienced by those who disagree or fall for that which they do not properly understand.

Sources will be presented in rough chronological order with an introduction preceding each series of excerpts, concluding with my own information and thoughts on the subject.

Read the full article here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_artificialhumans01.htm

I completely agreed with the fundamentals of what Alex Jones was trying to get across with Piers Morgan.

Alex was brash to a degree, but considering the environment he was placed in and the platform he was given, he got his point across in the only manner he could. Piers Morgan (among others in the MSM) talk over people all the time, not allowing them to get their points across. Alex Jones just gave Piers Morgan a taste of his own medicine.

Piers and the media are pushing peoples emotional buttons, effectively drowning out any sense of reason. Life is sacred and it's tragic when it's lost, but people aren't supposed to think with their emotions.

Guns don't kill people -- chemically imbalanced people kill people (except in the case of self-defense, where sane people may act according to their instincts of self-preservation or to protect the lives of others).

Every argument I've heard on the MSM for gun bans is manipulatively sensual and completely illogical.

I am still going through all the videos and material. My condolences go out to those in heartache, but my thoughts will remain invested with the facts.

PS - The link above is from a compilation of sources. It's just meant to inspire investigation -- not belief. The more obvious possible conspiracies are of course the ones pointed to in the main videos circulating as of late.

Calz

18th January 2013, 22:10

This is becoming, regarding shaping of a reality, a VERY seriously obvious push to disarm America, to collapse America... after it has been used and abused...as a weapon... to subjugate the rest of the world.

Disarming Americans is quite an "obvious" move, but that is not what is "really" happening. at the moment anyways....

I wrote this earlier today;

All this gun grabbing rhetoric has caused this nation to arm themselves to the teeth, the gun manufacturers have made BILLIONS in the last month, and now they are ramping up the rhetoric to divide us even more.

See this OP and thread for another possible "Reality"

Sandy Hook Seed Sprouts The New Boogie Man

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54513-Sandy-Hook-Seed-Sprouts-The-New-Boogie-Man

Getting as in your face as can be. Protesting now a *felony*???

Arrowwind posted this earlier (turn down volume for first few seconds).

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54517-Protesting-is-Now-a-Felony-In-the-USA&highlight=protesting

jagman

18th January 2013, 23:15

I just got through listening to the Power Hour and I am simply blown away.There going to get caught in all these lies but what happens at that point???

ThePythonicCow

19th January 2013, 00:18

It might worth making some notes for members here summarizing the key points -- some of which are quite new, even after watching the very detailed "Fully Exposed" video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8)

Here's my seriously ugly, raw, unedited, "lecture notes style" notes that I scribbled down, as I listened to this. Only about 90 to 95% accurate -- beware :).

Nothing solid about Adam Lanza, if he even existed, at least since 2009, if not forever.
No public records, drivers license, residences, jobs, schools, ... can be found since then.
Reported details and story changed significantly even during the first day.
Anomalies in brother Ryan's (the one original claimed "off record" as the culprit) statements and presence.
Pictures of Adam are photo shopped.
We don't know that Adam killed his mother.
None of Adam's remaining family (brother, father, ...) have appeared in public to comment or be interviewed on TV shows.
We have not found any conclusive evidence that Adam ever existed.
Story changed as to what weapon Adam shot his Mother Nancy Lanza with.
Lies about Mother: Supposedly a teacher at Sandy Hook, but no record of such, no record she ever held a teacher's certificate, and a record that she was a Morgan Stanley employee.
Three employees of GE division that Peter Lanza (father) was in charge of were charged in LIBOR scandal.
Adam not mentioned in his mother Nancy's obituary, even though all other family members were mentioned.
Claims that Adam attended Sandy Hook elementary school have no evidence.
Claims that Adam had some kind of altercation days earlier with someone at the school have no evidence.
There was gun fire outside school, but no neighbors heard and called 911.
The claimed weapon produces a louder noise (165 db) than most guns.
He supposedly shot 100+ rounds rapidly and had more on his person. It would have been very difficult for Adam to sustain that much noise, in an enclosed space, that close, that rapidly. Two doctors of audiology told him that the percussive impact would be devastating and disorienting to the inner ear.
Adam was conveniently "home schooled", so no record is available of his schooling, not even the required reports of test results from parents of home schooled children.
It would have been so obvious that he was carrying hundreds of rounds of ammo, in a bullet proof vest and a tactical vest, and multiple guns, so there is no way he could have been visually granted entry to the school.
He would have been carrying near to his own body 120 pound weight in gear, and he was supposedly somewhat autistic and of no special claimed training.
Official reports on what weapons he was carrying keep changing.
No pictures of his weapons, of damage to the school, ...
Pictures of school show all glass intact, even though calls to the dispatcher claimed windows shot out.
No access to the school has been allowed by non-authorized officials.
How did he compromise the door he supposedly forced open, if not admitted. Door would have been robust; he wasn't and he was burdened by heavy equipment.
How to shoot that many children fatally ... some kids should have been behind others and just wounded.
Complete lack of video made public of actual shooting events from surveillance cameras is inexplicable.
Why didn't the teachers hearing the shooting in adjacent classrooms open some windows, lift their kids outside, and tell them to run?
No pictures of damage; no video of events; almost no claimed non-fatal casualties.
Breaking the door glass would have been difficult for someone of his light build.
Only a single call to 911 dispatch ever made. Would expect many calls with 100+ very loud gun shots in rapid fire.
For a 120 pound developmentally disabled kid to bash in a strong door, discharge hundreds of rounds, that fast, with that accuracy, would not be possible.
There was a drill being held 25 miles away in a nearby town that kept many of key local law enforcement officers away from the school, so Connecticut State Police responded instead.
No 911 calls from other school administrators, who were in same building and surely heard hundreds of rounds of very loud and rapid gun fire.
When first responders first arrived was claimed to be the end of gun fire, but dispatcher audio and early reports show that be a lie.
Video of guy pulling rifle out of trunk of car was trimmed to avoid showing four guys nearby in full chemical hazmat suits ... what were they expecting?
Initial report all first day long said he used two hand guns Glock 9mm and Sig 10mm, then the reports switched to saying he used a Bushmaster rifle (like AK-47) 232 semi with at least ten magazines.
4 to 11 shots from the Bushmaster on a small kid would blow them to smithereens.
Adam allegedly trained with mother at lower gun ranges, but no local gun range had any such record.
Untrained, weaker, person could not simply sustain the physical kick back from firing that gun that many times.
The shear force, the 5 or 10 magazine changes, the rapidity of fire, the 160db percussive noise, the accuracy of fire (almost all wounded died), ... difficult for a big strong well trained man; impossible for an untrained weaker person.
Law enforcement first responders admitted that they themselves had to shoot their way into the school front door, which door glass was intact when they arrived.
Not a single extra call ... for someone so obviously dangerously equipped and shooting a gun(s) so fast.
The story that the school psychologist or vice principle "bravely encountered" this heavily armed madman who had just shot his way in is B.S. No one walks up unarmed to a madman wearing 100 pounds of guns and ammo and armor, who has just shot his way into the building, to talk with him.
They claimed these weapons were legally registered to the mother, Nancy Lanza, but there is an assault weapons ban in Connecticut. How do you legally register an illegal gun?
Gene Rosen, who claims he took six kids into his house, claimed he heard the gun fire (doubtful from inside his house a mile away). If so, why didn't he call 911?
Highly unlikely that Adam wouldn't have had some mechanical stoppages that required knowing how to clear the gun, firing that many shots.
The kids bodies were not even cold before the politicians were calling for gun bans
Robbie Parker was laughing as he approached the camera, six hours after his daughter was brutally murdered, then hyperventilated to get into character.
Officers claimed they were on scene, weapons up, within seven minutes after the call, which would have been within a minute or two of shooting his way in. (My calculations: so that's say 140 rounds in 7 minutes, or 20 rounds per minute, or one round every 3 seconds, including time to find and enter 2 classrooms and time to change magazines 5 or 10 times, shooting terrorized moving targets with a claimed 90% kill ratio. Damn - that kid was good </sarcasm>.)
Nurse claimed she was locked in a closet for over three hours, whereas officers claimed they had cleared the entire building within one hour.
That nurse is not licensed in the state of Connecticut.
Gene Rosen claimed to be a psychologist, but is not a licensed psychologist, and just attended a community college for two years.
People dressed as nuns no where to be found.
One or two men captured in the woods no where to be found.
Now they say they want to demolish the school and never reopen it ...perfect way to destroy the evidence.
The Connecticut State Police officer threatened to legally pursue anyone who spread misinformation about the incident.
Connecticut State Police "body guard" assigned to every family of one of the victims: unprecedented in such incidents. Highly suspect - they seem to be hiding something.
Several prominent gun spokesman have been killed under very strange circumstances in the last few weeks

TargeT

19th January 2013, 00:22

norman

19th January 2013, 00:38

Jeezzz.......

If nothing else can be sure, they sure are prepping us for slips in our reality.

More and more, they are doing the most blazoned in-our-faces reality warping. It's as if they really want us to get used to disbelief as some kind of preparation for some future phase of their plans.

observer

19th January 2013, 00:52

From comment #1.

[....snip]
"Since the alleged shooter’s father is VP of GE Capital, and (like “Batman shooter” James Holmes’s father) was scheduled to testify at the Senate Hearings on the LIBOR scandal, is there a LIBOR connection to this event?"

This is the most significant point on the entire list.

From comment #6.
[....snip]
"Something stinks, we don't know what, but given the history of such events, and given the chronic dishonesty of both our public officials and our news sources, it seems almost certain to me that what really happened is not what we're being told, and seems rather likely that what really happened is substantially more sinister than what we're being told."
[....snip]

The point that I quoted from Paul comment #1 is what stinks. The internet is buzzing with this very significant connection. I even heard it on the local talk radio station on my way home from work. This LIBOR scandal involves the top bankers from the soverign state known as The City in downtown London.

The fact that the father's of both of these boys, Holmes and Lanza, were scheduled to testify before a Senate Banking Committee, where their testimony could have a negative effect on some of the most influential international banksters cannot be ignored by the major media. This fact alone is the "smoking gun".

The fact that the father's of both of these boys, Holmes and Lanza, were scheduled to testify before a banking committee of Congress where their testimony could have a negative effect on some of the most influential international banksters cannot be ignored by the major media. This fact alone is the "smoking gun".

This is a flasehood so can we please stop repeating it. Neither men were sheduled to testify before a banking committe. Neither men have anything to do with setting LIBOR rates in the jobs they do.

I would like to point-out that the most recent Joyce Riley video posted by Bill Ryan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54526-MUST-LISTEN-Investigator-Mike-Powers-America-a-nation-now-at-war&p=618872&viewfull=1#post618872)in another thread vindicates half of what I said in the above comment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK8tLX6VQp4

I address your attention to the 28 min: 28 sec. mark on the timer and listen to what Mike Powers has to say about LIBOR. The LIBOR scandal could play a very significant factor in these mass murders, aside from the fact the Global Elite are going for our guns.

SilentFeathers

19th January 2013, 01:18

I think another key point Powers makes is the same thing I mentioned in another thread the other day, THERE IS NO MOTIVE. They are not even looking for a motive.

Adam smashed his computer and no one's seen him for a few years, why look for a motive huh?

First high profile crime I've ever seen in which trying to find a motive is not important or unnecessary.

SilentFeathers

19th January 2013, 01:24

That's why I think the pharmaceutical issues are the core of it and the gun issues are the emotive smokescreen. If you read down the fact sheet issued to go with what the prez signed you will see that training/observing/reporting of 'pathalogical' behaviour is being handed to teachers and others.

Added Edit: Not dismissing the gun issues, just observing they are very loud in your face and emotive, whereas the 'pathology' and pharma issues more subtle but possibly have devastating effect.

23 executive actions.

Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Source:http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/01/16/read-full-list-of-23-gun-violence-reduction-executive-actions/

jackovesk

19th January 2013, 03:00

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I wrote above: (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Newtown-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=617730&viewfull=1#post617730)

Read this important Camelot page:

http://projectcamelot.org/svali.html

Svali is the pseudonym of a female Illuminati whistleblower, who for many years was based in San Diego. She fled after converting to Christianity, and is an astoundingly brave woman. Her testimony is spine-chilling. I am in no doubt that it's all true.

On the page is a link (http://projectcamelot.org/svali.mp3) to an interview she did with Greg Szymanski a few years ago in which the recounts her witnessing a child sacrifice in the Vatican (as a young child herself). This is not for the faint-hearted. I've listened to it once only, and was glad I did; but once was enough, and I'll never forget it. It's forever etched on my mind.

Here's the connection. I am seriously beginning to think that the entire Sandy Hook event, complicit parents and all, was an Illuminati (not USG or DHS) operation. Read Svali's testimony, and I welcome all comments.

Having now listened to Jay Weidner's excellent interview with Jeff Rense here (must listen)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8LQ-FxUGPw

... Weidner is saying exactly the same thing.

Archons = Illuminati = a millennia-old strategic plan devoted to the takeover and trashing of Planet Earth and the human race. The Apocryphal Book of Enoch (http://projectavalon.net/Fallen_Angels_and_the_Origins_of_Evil_Elizabeth_Cl are_Prophet.pdf), heavily suppressed by the early Church and only rediscovered in Ethiopia in 1773, also states exactly the same thing. It all fits.

Great Interview Thanks Bill...:thumb:

Again Mods if this has already been posted - Please Remove...

Published on Dec 20, 2012

FAMILY IDENTIFIED PLAYING SEVERAL SANDY HOOK ACTORS.
Noah Pozner Nick Phelps Carlos Soto Actors from same Greenberg Family

The Sandy Hook Actors PART 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_b9hh2lp3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_b9hh2lp3I

The Sandy Hook Actors PART 2

Published on Dec 23, 2012

FAMILY IDENTIFIED PLAYING SEVERAL SANDY HOOK ACTORS.
Noah Pozner Nick Phelps Carlos Soto Actors from same Greenberg Family

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVKu4_JxcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVKu4_JxcE

Earth Angel

19th January 2013, 04:55

anybody think this woman , acting in Machine Gun Preacher (movie with Gerrard Butler......about KONY no less) ...can be found at the 1:39:00 mark on the movie.......looks a hell of a lot like the nurse >?
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her part is miniscule, so easy to miss...

ThePythonicCow

19th January 2013, 09:15

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control/

I'm reading this article right now, given that the Veterans Today is a good site with good researchers...

Article on the subject from the Global Research website entitled "The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information (http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswered-questions-and-missing-information/5316776)".

Here's another excellent article noting some discrepancies, some of which I had not heard before: Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun “Psy Op” (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/27/sandy-hook-huge-hoax-and-anti-gun-psy-op/).

It covers

the weird inconsistencies in the State Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver's answers in a press conference,
the changing story on what weapons were used to do the shootings,
the highly unprofessional way in which the rifle found in the trunk of the car is cleared (demonstrating neither expertise in handling the rifle, nor discipline in preserving the crime scene),
the strange behavior and responses by Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance,
the inconsistency of having the main murder weapon, the Bushmaster rifle, being left in the car trunk (with the alleged lone gunman dead inside the school so unable to get back to the car),
Facebook purging of the accounts of at least 19 pro-gun members, ...

The press cannot talk to the parents, the parents are under the "protection" of body guards, no revealing video nor photos of the crime scene have been released, the parents cannot see their deceased children, the "nun" and the two or three other potential shooters, at least one arrested, have disappeared from the record, ambulances were kept from the scene and there were almost no wounded anyway, just claimed corpses that no one has seen (perhaps not even the chief coroner Carver, given his weird answers), local police were away at a scheduled training event, ...

This article speculates that the real timeline was:

Adam Lanza and his mother were killed the day before. Adam’s body was picked up by local police. He was attired in a SWAT outfit, including body armor, and stored in the school.
A three-man team entered the school, one was arrested in the school–cuffed and put on the lawn–two went out the back door, one was arrested, the third appears to have escaped. You can find this on helicopter videos.
Those arrested are currently not in police custody; their names were never released.

This article also warns that Diane Feinstein's proposed gun so-called “Assault Weapons Ban” would:
Ban the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing or 120 specifically named rifles, shotguns and handguns;
Ban the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of ALL firearms with a detachable magazine and at least one “military characteristic” — which could mean just about anything that makes a gun “look scary.”
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing of magazines holding more than 10 rounds;
Force owners of ALL “grandfathered” weapons to undergo an intrusive background check and unnecessary fingerprinting;
Force owners of ALL “grandfathered” weapons to federally register their guns after obtaining permission slip from local law enforcement showing their guns are not in violation of state or local law. That’s right. If you own a $10 magazine that’s more than 10 rounds, you’ll have to register it with the BATFE in their National Firearms Registry.

Even the owners of supposedly “grandfathered” firearms will be treated like common criminals, which leaves little room for doubt that Sandy Hook is being used to as a snare to confiscate “guardians of men”.

ThePythonicCow

19th January 2013, 09:31

Ah - here's a great one - the Gene Rosen who has been telling stories of taking six of the children into his house during the shooting, caught rehearsing his lines on camera!
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music

19th January 2013, 10:09

I don't know, Paul, just seems like a rambling, unedited take to me. You can still tell he's fake though, I just wouldn't show that as proof to a doubting friend.

ThePythonicCow

19th January 2013, 10:13

I don't know, Paul, just seems like a rambling, unedited take to me. You can still tell he's fake though, I just wouldn't show that as proof to a doubting friend.
Yeah - I'd agree - not anything that would convince a doubting friend - little more than amusing outtakes :).

gooty64

19th January 2013, 10:35

This is becoming, regarding shaping of a reality, a VERY seriously obvious push to disarm America, to collapse America... after it (America) has been used and abused...as a weapon... to subjugate the rest of the world.

Precisely Carmody, you nailed it in one sentence!

Bill Ryan

19th January 2013, 12:26

Here's another excellent article noting some discrepancies, some of which I had not heard before: Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun “Psy Op” (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/27/sandy-hook-huge-hoax-and-anti-gun-psy-op/).

It covers

the weird inconsistencies in the State Chief Medical Examiner H. Wayne Carver's answers in a press conference,
the changing story on what weapons were used to do the shootings,
the highly unprofessional way in which the rifle found in the trunk of the car is cleared (demonstrating neither expertise in handling the rifle, nor discipline in preserving the crime scene),
the strange behavior and responses by Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance,
the inconsistency of having the main murder weapon, the Bushmaster rifle, being left in the car trunk (with the alleged lone gunman dead inside the school so unable to get back to the car),
Facebook purging of the accounts of at least 19 pro-gun members, ...

The press cannot talk to the parents, the parents are under the "protection" of body guards, no revealing video nor photos of the crime scene have been released, the parents cannot see their deceased children, the "nun" and the two or three other potential shooters, at least one arrested, have disappeared from the record, ambulances were kept from the scene and there were almost no wounded anyway, just claimed corpses that no one has seen (perhaps not even the chief coroner Carver, given his weird answers), local police were away at a scheduled training event, ...

This article speculates that the real timeline was:

Adam Lanza and his mother were killed the day before. Adam’s body was picked up by local police. He was attired in a SWAT outfit, including body armor, and stored in the school.
A three-man team entered the school, one was arrested in the school–cuffed and put on the lawn–two went out the back door, one was arrested, the third appears to have escaped. You can find this on helicopter videos.
Those arrested are currently not in police custody; their names were never released.

This article also warns that Diane Feinstein's proposed gun so-called “Assault Weapons Ban” would:

Ban the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing or 120 specifically named rifles, shotguns and handguns;
Ban the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of ALL firearms with a detachable magazine and at least one “military characteristic” — which could mean just about anything that makes a gun “look scary.”
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing of magazines holding more than 10 rounds;
Force owners of ALL “grandfathered” weapons to undergo an intrusive background check and unnecessary fingerprinting;
Force owners of ALL “grandfathered” weapons to federally register their guns after obtaining permission slip from local law enforcement showing their guns are not in violation of state or local law. That’s right. If you own a $10 magazine that’s more than 10 rounds, you’ll have to register it with the BATFE in their National Firearms Registry.

Even the owners of supposedly “grandfathered” firearms will be treated like common criminals, which leaves little room for doubt that Sandy Hook is being used to as a snare to confiscate “guardians of men”.

Yes, this is an excellent, thought-provoking article.

Jim Fetzer, the author, is an active member on Avalon:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?13308-Jim-Fetzer

Jim, we'd love to hear from you. We can set you up with your own thread or section. Do contact myself or any of the mods if you'd like any tech support (e.g. how to start new threads, etc). Very happy to help.

PurpleLama

19th January 2013, 13:09

Ok, poking around the net while listening to the Power Hour show yesterday, I came across the white pages listings for the Lanzas, Kathy and Adam, living on Orange St. in New Haven, with a John Schneekloth. Likewise, a listing on Church St. for Kathy alone, several blocks away, same phone number, right on the edge of the Yale campus, apparently. Today, the listings in my mobile device are not showing John and Kathy associated, however looking the names up separately still shows the same addresses and phone numbers. It might be a glitch between the computer browser and the phone browser. Still, who is Schneekloth? Also, I was unable to locate any obituaries, although not finding obits might be more a reflection on my poor internet skills.

EDIT

So, his mother's name is Nancy, not Kathy. No listings for a Nancy Lanza, except for one who is listed alone, and over the age of 65. Yet, it's Kathy who is listed with Adam in the household, with John, a few blocks from Yale in New Haven. None of the listings I've seen go to Newtown at all.

Cidersomerset

19th January 2013, 13:22

Were Crisis Actors Used in Sandy Hook Massacre?

Saturday, 19 January 2013 12:25

Posted by David Icke

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Published on 18 Jan 2013

Paul talks with James Tracy, a communications professor who claims the
Newtown Sandy Hook massacre did not happen the way it was reported
by the establishment media.

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I don't know if this is genuine info, but every major 'False Flag' seems to
be centred around a drill.presumambly to keep the event within set managable
peramiters.Drills are usually conducted with the relative military or emergency
agency with civilian volenteers helping if & when required...

It seems a bit gruesome for an agency to be set up to supply actors for
more authticity, but logical I suppose as more of these events are happening
to con the public!!

About CrisisActors

We are specially trained actors helping first responders create realistic drills, full-scale exercises, high-fidelity simulations, and interactive 3D films.

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/snapshot-189.jpg

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/crisis-actors-youtube-channel-outtakes/

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Published on 23 Dec 2012

Just something I found interesting so I made a video about it.

"Active Shooter Crisis Actors Target Mall Shootings via Visionbox

DENVER, CO, October 31, 2012 -- A new group of actors is now available
nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises,
announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.
Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring
intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.

The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary
American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and
improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios.
The actors regularly rehearse scenarios involving the Incident Command
Systemand crisis communications, and appear in interactive training films produced
in both 2D and stereoscopic 3D.

Producers Jennifer McCray Rincon and John Simmons formed the group to
demonstrate emerging security technologies, help first responders visualize life-
saving procedures, and assist trainers in delivering superior hands-on crisis
response training.

For example, with a large shopping center, the producers review all security camera
views and design dramatic scenes specifically for existing camera angles, robotic
camera sweeps, and manually-controlled camera moves.The producers then work
with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario
developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and
caught on tape.

The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall,
shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to
the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall.Visionbox Crisis Actors can
also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments
on social media websites.

During the exercise, the producers use two-way radio to co-direct the Crisis Actors
team from the mall dispatch center and at actors' locations.Within this framework,
the exercise can test the mall's monitoring and communications systems, the mall's
safety plan including lockdown and evacuation procedures, the ability of first
responders and the mall to coordinate an effective response, and their joint ability
to respond to the media and information posted on the Internet.Security camera
footage is edited for after-action reports and future training.For more information
visit www.Visionbox.org and www.CrisisActors.org.

Visionbox is a project of the Colorado Nonprofit Development Center. Crisis Actors
is a project of the Colorado Safety Task Force established by Colorado State Senator Steve King.

Slorri

21st January 2013, 11:22

Bill Ryan

21st January 2013, 14:04

SilentFeathers

21st January 2013, 14:48

According to the Social Security Death Index Adam Lanza died on 2012-12-13, that is the day before the Sandy Hook Shooting.
He has a very good alibi for not being involved.

Adam P. Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record

Name: Adam P. Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Wednesday April 22, 1992
Date of Death: Thursday December 13, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 20 years, 7 months, 21 days
Confirmation: Proven

http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143EB37C71A1FA78

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Friday was on Dec. 14th, not the 13th.

http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143A177167B62EF8

This link for his mother says "friday"

Adams listing is probably just a genebank typo/mistake.....but personally I do think he was dead before he got to the school and tossed on the floor as a prop. (if he was even really there at all)

Slorri

21st January 2013, 15:27

SilentFeathers

21st January 2013, 15:46

...

Friday was on Dec. 14th, not the 13th.

http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143A177167B62EF8

This link for his mother says "friday"

Adams listing is probably just a genebank typo/mistake.....

According to SSDI Adam is confirmed to have died on: Thursday December 13, 2012

It is possible, but not probable that the SSDI records are wrong. We should not assume that they are.

After the debacle and fiasco with time stamps etc being fraudulent with the twitter, charity pages, etc recently, I'm quite cautious with this.

As far as I can see it is not the Social Security/SSDI itself claiming the date of death, but geneology bank doing it.

Where's the photo copy of this date of death directly from the social security dept?????

Hervé

23rd January 2013, 03:06

I just got reminded of this huge "Double Standard":

[...]

The case he was working on was one in which the construction of a large building in Iraq had collapsed due to substandard materials being used. The cement blocks had cracked and a wall had crumbled and within 2 minutes the building lay in dust on the ground. It had been an elementary school and classes had been in-session. Hundreds of children were dead and the 50 or so who were pulled from the rubble alive were very seriously wounded. The incident had been covered-up in the name of National Security saying that the news could affect the future of the US occupation. I never saw any coverage of it in the US; I did see a little of it later in Iraq.

[...]

Referee

23rd January 2013, 13:40

There is some new information Three names that came out of SH Lanza, Rodia and Manfridonia have been conected via a Justice Department case against the Uzar crime family and get this they make and sell there own assult weapons.

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Rocky_Shorz

25th January 2013, 07:01

stumbled across this is an unrelated search, a local Newton resident shared what he saw that morning.

I will post no proof that I actually do live here. I'm sure some have clicked away immediately at that confession and I do not blame them. You may or may not believe in what I am about to say and that is your choice.

I live in Newtown. I live about 1 mile from Sandy Hook Elementary on Riverside Road. I didn't go to work on Friday Dec 14th. I called in sick but I was playing hooky. I work at a restaurant in Danbury. I've spent the past 2 hours debating with myself if I should post this. I could have posted it somewhere else but this site seems to always pop up when the Sandy Hook "shooting" is concerned. I figured this was the most popular spot.

At around 8:50-9:00am I had just finished eating my breakfast. I had Captain Crunch cereal. I had used the last of my milk. I decided to go get some at Caraluzzi's because a friend of mine works there and I wanted to see what he was up to that evening. I get in my car at about 9:05am. I drive West on Riverside Road. Before I even got to the Fire House, I noticed a lot of vehicles parked there. Way, way, way more than usual. A few was parked on both sides of the road. I figured they was just doing some kind of training or a meeting. However one thing did stick out and that was the fact that a lot of the vehicles was solid silver and solid black. I drive past the Fire House and the Senior Center is right next door less than 100 yards. That parking lot was full as well with some of the same vehicles mixed with trucks and what not. Vehicles you would expect to see in a parking lot. Still I thought nothing of it. I go get my milk.

I'm in Caraluzzi's and I've been talking to my friend for a right good while and we hear 2 police cars go by. About 5 minutes later we hear a Helicopter. Dave comes from the back and said, "They must be doing another drill again. Scanner said mass casualty incident involving children". Right then I figured out why all those vehicles was at the Fire House and Senior Center. Because it's not the first time they have done that. They did a similar thing about 1 year ago around this time of year. And they are always doing car accidents that concerns Hazmat or whatever. I told them what I saw. Dave said, "Those cars sound like FBI cars. I guess they would be in on it". So I figure to go so I could catch a peek at what was going on. I get to town and couldn't go down Riverside Road. I told the officer that I live down there. He said, "No through traffic even for residents. Fire and Rescue and Police need to finish doing what they are doing". I said, "What are they doing?". He said, "I would tell you if I knew and I have no clue. The way it sounds they are running a drill but we have been blocked from main traffic. I was just told to do traffic control and make sure no one goes down there".

Then I drive west to Danbury. I don't know why but I just did. I was thinking to myself that that was what I get for playing hooky from work. I had the radio on but not loud enough to hear it. I turn it up thinking maybe I could catch what was going on. The local station mentioned nothing. At about 10:00 they break in from Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55". The guy said that he was hearing reports of an incident at Sandy Hook Elem and that surrounding schools was on lock down however, "I called my wife because she works at Newtown Middle School and she said they weren't on lock down and haven't heard anything about an incident. So it appears information has been mixed up. We need to get our stuff together before they tell me to report".

I get to Danbury and I go into Global gas station to get a Mt. Dew. They had the tv on and I froze. They was watching coverage of the "shooting". I just watched for 30 minutes frozen. Then I started thinking about all of those cars at the Fire Dept. I didn't know what to think about that. My brain just didn't work after watching the tv.

Fast forward to right this second. I've read the theories and the stories and honestly, those are the only ones that add up. I live here and I do not know what the **** went on. This town is fairly small. I know right many people. I know Eugene Rosen. He is an extremely creepy bastard. I know Scarlett Lewis. But I would like to know where in the hell she got all of that money to "spruce" herself up for interviews. But the Phelps and Parker families that seem to be shoved down our throat, I have no idea in hell who they are. I've asked family and friends and they don't know who they are. I know a Robert Parker, but that sure as hell isn't him in the interviews.

I just do not know what is going on...

GLP thread... (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2119730/pg1?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Akasha

25th January 2013, 13:13

Just come across the following video via WRH. Purports to show evidence of green screen usage for Anderson Cooper's interview with Noah Pozner's mother.

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gooty64

25th January 2013, 14:40

.....and this one too. I wondered if Anderson Cooper is even in the same room with these parents/actors?

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In 10 minutes there are no shots where you see Cooper and the parents in the same frame. Just seems fishy to me. :noidea:

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RMorgan

25th January 2013, 14:44

.....and this one too. I wondered if Anderson Cooper is even in the same room with these parents/actors?

This happens a lot on TV interviews. First they film the interviewees answering questions, then they film the interviewer who might not even be in the same place, then they merge the parts in the edition process. This is quite common.

Slorri

25th January 2013, 19:32

Kimberley

25th January 2013, 22:00

Rocky_Shorz

25th January 2013, 22:06

could it possibly be that the exchange the day before, alerted authorities of a possible attack coming, they had gathered to prepare but weren't ready quick enough?

Slorri

26th January 2013, 12:21

Bombshell: Sandy Hook shooter died day before shootings (Photos)

http://www.examiner.com/article/bombshell-sandy-hook-shooter-died-day-before-shootings

Another horrifying contradiction to the official version of the Sandy Hook school shootings surfaced this week with the advent of a conflicting death record showing the alleged shooter officially dying a day earlier than the shooting event itself.

SilentFeathers

26th January 2013, 12:39

Slorri

26th January 2013, 12:46

Where do we get the "actual "legitimate" and "legal" death certificate"?

The Social Security Administration (SSA) office is providing the data from the SSDI, and that is what the genealogy sites are showing us.

Maybe someone here, who lives in the vicinity of Connecticut, can ask the SSA for verification?

SilentFeathers

26th January 2013, 12:57

This is the disclaimer at the genebank site:

Disclaimer: The Social Security Death Index is made available to the public through a number of websites, including GenealogyBank.com, GenealogyBank is only a host for the Social Security Death Index. As a result, we do not control the information that is provided us in the SSDI.
In order to have information corrected or removed, please contact your local Social Security Administration (SSA) office. Documented proof of an error may be required. Contact information for your local office can be found at http://www.ssa.gov.

The actual death certificate will have the time of death and signed by a coroner etc., and also have a state seal.

Even the SS dept could of produced this typo, in such a high profile person/death it would seem that they would not make such a mistake, but who knows.

The only way to put this to bed would be to see a copy of the actual death certificate.

If the death certificate says Dec. 13th, well, "Lucy gots some splainin to do!"

ADDED: It's interesting to note that in the screen shot in the above posts this disclaimer is missing!!!!

Even the person who originally took this screen shot DELETED the disclaimer from the actual page before putting this on the net!

The screenshot is itself manipulated...and PROOF how easy things can be manipulated/forged/doctored etc

Slorri

26th January 2013, 13:19

The person who took the screen shot is Bill Ryan.

SilentFeathers

26th January 2013, 13:22

The person who took the screen shot is Bill Ryan.

He probably copied and pasted it from another location and not from the genebank site where the disclaimer is clearly there for all to see.

I would hope he didn't delete the disclaimer himself!

Akasha

26th January 2013, 13:52

Rocky, Thanks for that post..I went through the whole thread and for some reason I believe the guy...However who knows....i sure wish we could make contact with shadow box, the guy that claimed to live 500 feet from the school... He disappeared December 18th

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53156-Connecticut-shooting-26-dead-18-children...&p=599069#post599069

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=601318#post601318

In the first post, he lives 500 feet away from the school and in the second, he's 300 feet away. Negating the possibility that he moved house sometime between the 15th and the 18th of December, is it possible that Shadowbox's ability to judge distance is similar to his ability to recognise a drill from a real event? After all there seems to be no expense spared in this kind of "production".

This post's worth reading too.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20503-Chemtrails-don-t-exist&p=417712&viewfull=1#post417712

Slorri

26th January 2013, 17:33

sdv

26th January 2013, 17:43

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Here's the full screenshot:

http://projectavalon.net/adam-lanza-died-12-13-2012.gif

Source: http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143EB37C71A1FA78 (see for yourself...!)

Curiouser and curiouser. I'm wondering if this isn't being done deliberately -- to stoke the fires of controversy.

Also ancestry.com is now listing Adam P. Lanza as being dead on Thursday the 2012-12-13.

This is not a "death record",

Until I see the actual "legitimate" and "legal" death certificate, this is disinfo and a hoax to me.....

genbank, ancestry.com, etc can be easily manipulated, any one can put any information they want in these sites.

Disinfo? Hoax? Just manipulation from someone who enjoys spreading chaos and confusion? There are many people spreading stories on the Internet: some are not aware of their motives and really convince themselves that they are speaking 'the truth'; some are reporters who have to deliver something to feed the insatiable need from consumers. (An ethical reporter will verify information from three sources, all of whom are documented and checked, but in the world of instant gratification, who has the time to do that?)

Reality is messy and confusing and paradoxical. Reporters never acknowledge this, and 'truthers' are in fierce denial of this.

RampartRanger

26th January 2013, 23:40

IMPORTANT! I SWEAR I AM ONTO SOMETHING HERE!

I have reviewed the "gun in the trunk" video multiple times, freezing it in different spots and trying to identify the gun without any bias (I don't "want" it to be a AR-15 or a Saiga/Canta 12, I want to know what gun it really is, period).
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When the guy cleared the weapon, a large cartridge fell out (@ 6-7 seconds)...no rifle round is that big except .50 caliber and they don't even make rifles that size in .50 caliber...this alone means it must be a shotgun. Because of where the guy grabs to unload the weapon, it must be a semi-auto shotgun and not a pump-action shotgun. But it is definitely NOT a Saiga/Canta 12 gauge shotgun because those weapons are an AK-47 -type design (assault rifle) and the "gun in the trunk" does NOT look like an AK47 or assault rifle otherwise.

Saiga 12s are not imported from Russia with pistol grips but they can be converted by the owner or bought from businesses that converted them after importation. Many Saiga rifles and shotguns are converted ("modded"/"customized") by their owners and businesses and the end results can look very different from the next given the large aftermarket selection of parts used for these conversion. "Conversions" are customizations, so there is no such thing as a "standard" Saiga 12 with a pistol grip because when they are imported they look more like a hunting rifle than anything (hunting buttstock, no pistol grip, etc.). So when someone converts it to a pistol grip, they have to choose among dozens of possible pistol grips...and must make a selection when customizing anything about the gun.

This Saiga 12 is the closest looking one to the "trunk gun" that I could find online:
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/shotgun/sh07/saiga_12k-1.jpg
Of course, as I spoke to above this shotgun has been "converted" such that it has a pistol grip (that it didn't when imported) among other accessories (muzzle brake, sights, butt-stock, etc.)...the pistol grip and stock where chosen by this owner for his "conversion"/"customization" Notice to the untrained eye that this weapon looks like an assault rifle, not a shotgun.

But looking again at the video, if you look closely @ 6 - 14 seconds you can see this long arm has a very thick barrel area (especially when the guy holds it side-ways)...it looks like two barrels stacked on each-other. Also, look at the butt-stock and pistol grip geometry...THEN the nail in the coffin for me on what weapon this is is found at 14 - 15 seconds. If you freeze that second, you can see under the guys arm the buttstock of the weapon. What do you see on the buttstock? Yellow shotgun shells (common color for shotgun shells). Having a sleeve over the buttstock or a clip on the butt-stock with shells in it is a very common practice with specific shotguns. These specific shotguns are NOT the magazine-fed ones like Saiga-12s (of assault rifle design, magazine-fed means they have detachable magazines)...they are traditional shotguns designs that have a "tube magazine" where the rounds are fed into the weapon one at a time during a reload because the magazine is NOT detachable. Because there is no detachable magazine for the weapon and the rounds are loaded one at a time into the weapon during every reload, having a few rounds right on the weapon for easy access is nice...but this is only a common practice with tube-fed shotguns. The tube magazine on these kinds of shotguns runs below the barrel making it appear as if there are two barrels stacked on top of one another all the way to the end of the barrel in some cases. It should also be noted that a shell-holding sleeve or clips would not be useful on a magazine-fed shotgun because you would reload with another pre-loaded magazine like any "assault rifle" instead of dealing with loading individual rounds.

This long arm is clearly a "tactical" (military grade) tube-fed semi-auto shotgun. What manufacturer and model is indiscernible in this footage, but what I'm seeing is definitely something that looks 95% like this:

http://www.gunlistings.org/uploads/1_shotguns_remington_1100_tactical_73747.jpg
This ^ particular weapon is a Remington 1100 Tactical II shotgun.

...and the shotgun in the video also has something like one of these with yellow shotgun shells in it...
Sleeve type shell holder*:
http://ustacticalsupply.com/images/products/detail/StockShotgunShellHolder_thumbnail1.jpg
Clip style shell holder*:
http://www.tacticalshotgunner.com/images/products/shell-carriers/benelli/mesa_tactical_91840_03.jpg
*The guns in these last two pictures are the same type of tube-fed shotguns I spoke to and pictured above. As I also said above, this practice of keeping shells on the buttstock is really only common and practical with tube-fed type shotgun, NOT magazine-fed shotguns like the Saiga 12 in my first picture (where reloading is done with a simple magazine change).

So why is the official story saying it was a Saiga 12? I believe it's because Saiga's are AK-47 type weapons made in many different calibers (rifle and shotgun rounds) that are IMMENSELY POPULAR and also military grade weapons. They are an improvement on the most proven weapon platform of the 20th century, the AK-47, and millions of Americans own one along with actual AK-47s...and the vast majority have hi-cap magazines for these weapons. In short, if you ban and/or confiscate all AR-15 and AK-47 type weapons (not just Saiga's), you basically neutralize the majority of military grade firearms that the public has. The AK-47 and it's many variants are THE GUN outside of NATO, the AR-15/M-4/M-16 type weapons are THE GUN within NATO, and it's been this way for decades. So in essence, the accused Saiga shotgun could be crucified to go after all AK-47 type whereas the Bushmaster could be crucified to go after all AR-15 type weapons. Take all those weapons (representing probably 90% of all civilian-owned "assault weapons" in the USA today) away from civilians and now we have no chance at providing any hint of resistance.

Why should you believe that I am accurately identifying the weapon while others (Veterans Today, Connecticut investigators, the media) are not? I have no bias involved, I don't want the weapon to be X or Y or Z. I just want to know what the weapon is, period. I also am giving you specific things to look at, instead of just saying, "I have police/military experience and this looks like an X to me". I also have extensive experience with Saiga rifles and shotguns, owning one myself and participating on an online forum specifically for Saiga weapons. I also am generally familiar with all types of weapons having handled and fired many including the types in question (Saiga 12, AR-15 types, and tube-fed tactical shotguns). I believe others are making mis-identifications because they are either biased and mistaken or simply looking to mislead.

On another note, an interesting test for the SSID death dates would be to look at others with a known day of death and to see if the records online reflect that accurately or not. Jimi Hendrix, etc., as well as less famous/regular people. If all other death dates are 99% accurate, we could then speculate that Adam Lanza's death date being "one day off" is truly a peculiar oddity.

RampartRanger

27th January 2013, 00:53

And here's why I believe this analysis in regards to the "gun in the trunk" to be wrong:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/27/sandy-hook-huge-hoax-and-anti-gun-psy-op/

1. The round that comes out is definitely NOT a .223 round. Look at this:
http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/34/2ce305a32c7df6225f5f4a6fa80af5f5/l.jpg
Second in from the left is a .223 round, farthest to the right is a 12 gauge shell...HUGE DIFFERENCE. I honestly just think these guys are lying to themselves because they WANT the Bushmaster to have been in the trunk (not that I would mind that, but I'm most interested in REALITY)...if a .223 round came out of that firearm it would have hardly been visible compared to what is obvious to me to be a yellow 12 gauge shell like what I believe to be on the buttstock as I said in my last post. What cartridge comes out of the "trunk gun" is in fact quite thick and tall compared to the scale of the firearm itself. It also appears to be yellow like the rounds on the buttstock.
Compare this (AR-15 with .223 rounds):
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/221056/221056,1263595100,1/stock-photo--bullets-with-m-style-military-assault-rifle-isolated-on-white-background-44567425.jpg
...with the pictures in my last post of the shell holders (shotguns with 12 gauge shells). A .223 would look similiar to an AA battery coming out of the weapon. That's not what I see. I see what looks more like a C battery (big difference from AA) which is quite comparable to a 12 gauge shell.
Link to picture of batteries for reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:6_most_common_battery_types-1.jpg

2. The way the round came out as it was ejected manually is indicative of a shotgun...even when doing this as softly as possible with any semi-auto rifle, the rounds tend to come flying out like they would under normal operation (firing the weapon when the rounds eject themselves). But with a semi-auto shotgun, the rounds tend to not go flying so far when operated normally/fired AND when manually ejecting rounds like we saw in the video.

3. The shotgun I pictured in my last post is one of many "tactical" shotguns that also have pistol grips, with the Saiga 12 among them if their owner or a shop has converted it to include a pistol grip. But as I explained in my above post, two particular things about the trunk weapon point to a tube-fed semi-auto shotgun and NOT a Saiga 12 OR a Bushmaster "assault rifle": A.) Thick barrel end area looks like two barrels stacked on top of one another (this is the "tube" that feeds that kind of shotgun but not a Saiga 12), B.) shotgun shell holder on the buttstock (only practical on tube-fed weapons, not magazine-fed ones like the Bushmaster or Saiga).

4. There is no magazine/"clip" in the gun. It is not visible. Also, anyone who knows anything about "clearing a weapon" (making sure it is unloaded) knows you need to remove the mag before cocking it back to eject any round potential in chamber. If you do not remove the magazine before you cock it back, you may eject the round in the chamber as you intended but then also load another round if the magazine itself has rounds in it/is loaded. So not only is the magazine not visible, it would more than likely have been removed before clearing the weapon unless that guy has no idea what he's doing. I'll admit that may be possible since this could all be staged, but even then I can't see any magazine period. As far as what we see in the video, it certainly wasn't removed before clearing the weapon because that would have been most obvious.

5. It not clearly defined in the video, but the weapon in the trunk does not appear to have any high-profile front sight in the typical "45 degree angle triangle" shape over the top of the barrel near it's end. This is the quintessential front sight of all AR-15 style weapons and is an easily identified signature. As noted in that article, not all AR-15 type rifles have a carrying handle (a handle over the top of the weapon that also houses the rear right) which is absent from the weapon in the video...but you also don't see any rear scope/optics sight that would typically replace this carrying handle and its rear sight. Scope/optics also make the front sight useless. In the end, some sort of sights need to be there and on the AR-15 platform they are all high profile so to speak and easily identified...but we see none of that on this long arm, no triangle front sight, no carrying handle/rear sight, no scope, nothing. Note that the front sight on a Saiga 12 is like an AK-47 which is also a triangular-looking piece of metal, very similar to the AR-15 design really. BUT all other shotguns are likely to be low-profile...so the lack of an easily identifiable front sight would tend to rule out the possibility that this weapon is an AR-15 type assault rifle OR a Saiga 12 shotgun.

To clarify, the ONLY gun you see those shell holders on are on tube-fed shotguns. Of those kind of shotguns, there are pump-action and semi-auto. We know the gun in the trunk isn't a pump-action shotgun because of where the guy grabs the gun to eject the round (he would have grabbed much closer to the front and lower on the gun if it were a pump-action). It would make no sense to have a shell holder on any rifle other than a tube-fed shotgun because a magazine fed one shotgun like a Saiga 12 is reloaded with interchangeable magazines that were pre-loaded with rounds. Why would a Saiga 12 or AR-15 shooter sit there and take rounds off the stock and put them into a magazine when they more than likely have another loaded mag ready to put into the weapon immediately? But if you have a tube-fed shotgun, you have no detachable magazine so having rounds right on the weapon makes for a faster reload (instead of grabbing rounds from a pouch or pocket). This same logic also applies to assault rifles...there's no reason for a round holder on the weapon. But even then you can tell that the cartridges in the shell holder on the stock of the "trunk gun" are very large...obviously shells that look the same color and size of the shell that was ejected from the gun in the video...yellow 12 gauge.

Interestingly enough, there is a shotgun that looks just like an AR-15 because it is that same platform but chambered in 12 gauge. It is called the Akdal MK1919 and it is magazine-fed. If this was the weapon in the trunk, it would explain why the weapon ejected a 12 gauge shotgun shell. However, it would NOT explain why the weapon does NOT appear to have a carrying handle/rear sight or a triangular front sight as well as why the weapon DOES appear to have a shotgun shell holder on its buttstock. The MK1919 would have that carrying handle/rear sight and triangular front sight but it would not require a shotgun shell holder because it has detachable magazines like any AR-15 design or Saiga design.

jackovesk

27th January 2013, 14:29

ABC, CBS, NBC Admit No Assault Rifle Used at Sandy Hook

YouTube
Jan 27, 2013

ABC, CBS and NBC positively reported that the Bushmaster rifle was in the car and not used at Sandy Hook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK8Z5K5M2Dw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HK8Z5K5M2Dw

RampartRanger

27th January 2013, 19:19

I'm confident those news reported compiled in that video were all broadcasted within a week of the shooting or whenever before the official story changed. The only recent date is the January 25th, 2013 date that the video was uploaded to YouTube but this date does not reflect the date of the original news reports of course.

These news reports are definitely NOT recent so it's not like the MSM is reverting back to their original story...though it's definitely obvious all of them initially ran the story of only handguns being found in the school with Adam and the rifle being left in the trunk. That is all that video proves.

Rocky_Shorz

27th January 2013, 20:20

another thread just opened on discrepancies so thought I'd toss the link into the main thread.

Chopper footage (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54840-More-Sandy-Hook-News-Chopper-Anomalies--Crystal-Clear-HD-Zooms-Shows-Weird-Stuff-&p=623875&viewfull=1#post623875)

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~TYT & Anderson Cooper vs 'Sandy Hook Truthers': http://whynotnews.eu/?p=2122

@At 00:20 into the video clip, shadow direction analysis indicates that a Time of Day of 10 : 25am might be the starting point of this video clip. I am uploading the Time of Day analysis based on shadow direction analysis at this time, 12:06am, (midnight) ... please check my most recent upload for the Time of Day analysis. I need your assistance and critical observations of the work I have done, please.

Is GENE ROSEN ... at the firehouse this early? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IlxUNfrv0g

We think we see Gene Rosen in this video clip, did he leave those poor kids at his house while he went to hobnob at the Firehouse? Or perhaps he was just earning his pay.

Sandy Hook Helicopter, Chopper Footage - Crystal Clear - HD and Zooms see anybody you know?

@0:15 it's about 11 : 15am EST.

@0:4:59 we see the policeman with the dog, his shadow passes perfectly, crisply over the "Parent Drop Off" parking lot lettering. The angle of the camera is off only be a few degrees to the direction of his shadow, not that it would matter in the type of analysis I'm doing.

The direction of the K9 officer's shadow can be plotted in google Earth with a line segment and a Time of Day can be made that is accurate to within 5 minutes.

@05:13 the utility pole shadow. Extending the line on this shadow in Photoshop on a screen grab of this frame, and then transferring that to google Earth, and making an analysis of the direction of that shadow will yield a Time of Day accurate to within ONE MINUTE.

@09:09 there are the WHITE CHAIRS, that some were saying were corpses on the Medical Tarps, notice, there is a large person, and lady, rocking forwards and backwards in the front row middle chair.

IS THE RED LADY SITTING NEXT TO A FAKE CORPSE MOCK UP DUMMY?

To really drive the validity of this type of "Time of Day" shadow direction and length analysis home, take a good shadow as early as possible in the beginning of this unedited, seamless video clip, analyze it, then take a shadow in the last part of the clip, analyze it, the results will be very concurrent with the timestamps on the video. If it is a seamless, unedited, continuous live footage clip.

This is some News Chopper footage by "News Chopper 12" I scrounged up. Please watch it closely, I don't see many children, AT ALL, just a bunch of adults, a few children at the fire station, lots of close ups. I'll do some Time of Day estimates on this, looks like around 11:15pm EST or later at first glance. We can see those WHITE CHAIRS at the fire station clearly in this video. We can see the cop with the dog, very clearly and he's in a different place, possibly coming onto the scene from the firehouse.

~Unslave Humanity Tactical Media: http://whynotnews.eu/?p=2078

jackovesk

28th January 2013, 02:58

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/Feinstein%20(R).jpg
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Insider Trader, War Profiteer, Chinese Company Invested Dianne Feinstein

Time for the 79 year old insider trader, China connected traitor, hawkish Dianne Feinstein who funneled over 1 billion in military contracts illegally to her husband Richard Blum to resign. She and her husband with Barbara Boxer's help sold San Diego ports to Cosco.

Her husband was part of the pressure network which caused police to bust up Occupy in Oakland and San Francisco. Many of the older links in this article were compiled by Forest Glen Durland. The record of insider trader war profiteer and hawkish traitor Dianne Feinstein.

1. Dianne Feinstein has funneled over 1 billion in contracts to her husband Richard Blum's URS ... just one of his companies to which she has funneled money stolen from the people of America. She has also with our money helped him profiteer from bankster foreclosures.
http://www.metroactive.com/feinstein/

She was forced to resign from the military construction appropriations subcommittee because of her criminal acts but is still head of the intelligence committee! though she deliberately falsified intelligence and voted, unlike most Democrats, to give the unelected Bush authority to rain fire and death on Iraq.

http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/03/30/senator-feinstein-resigns-from-committee/

2. She was a tool of the Israeli government in claiming falsely in 2002 that Saddam Hussein had nuclear weapons.
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5764

3. She opposes assault weapons in the US while voting for 30 billion dollars a year for assault weapons, fighter jets, and other armsmongering for the fraudulently installed Netanyahu government. Her husband Richard Blum was involved in Cosco's gun running in San Diego. Her husband's investment in Chinese shipping is one of many factors in the failure of the US government to inspect more than 5% of incoming crates. WalMart is the US' biggest importer of uninspected Chinese goods.

4. As chair of Senate intelligence committee while Carl Levin is the chair of
the Senate armed services committee how can she objectively monitor the Mossad infiltrated CIA?

5. She lost 2 mayoral elections and only the murder of Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone by the troubled (or mind controlled) Dan White (who had frequent contact with the SF police department) and her appointment to office started her career.
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/mcveigh.html

6. Her husband's role as past chairman and present member of the Univ of Calif. Board of Overseershas helped make that state the most aggressive denier of the 1st amendment for peaceful protesters against UC vivisection. Blum was active in lobbying for AETA and pressuring for its unconstitutional enforcement.

7. Feinstein has many times violated the sovereign will of the people of California, ignoring their overwhelming support for immediate withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan.

8. Several times California fires have burned out of controlwhile the state guard's firefighters have been requisitioned for Iraq and Afghanistan where they help to cause fires.

9. California bridges are in terrible shape while money to repair them has instead been spent to bomb bridges in Baghdad and Afghanistan.

10. California animals are worse off. After 6000 Chino cows suffocated in mud,
film of their torture was captured as they were poked with poles in udders, face,
stomach, kicked, beaten, downer cows forklifted into fences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTZTCNnrUNY

11. Her husband Blum has an antilabor record. He raided the pension fund of
S. Calif. carpenters' union.. of 90 million dollars, 7.8 million in 1997 alone... for 'investment consultant' fees. Newt Gingrich rivals him in fleecing
others.
http://members.tripod.com/unionplainfacts/documents/news/8-1-01/tutor.htmUnion

12. Members Lost 90 Million as Richard Blum Managed Pension Fund
http://members.tripod.com/unionplainfacts/documents/archivespage/blumsues.htm

13. The government's investigations of the Feinstein/Blum corrupt connections to Chinese money have only partially been investigated.
http://members.tripod.com/unionplainfacts/documents/archivespage/china.htm Like those of Mitt Romney, Henry Kissinger, Henry Paulson, Warren Buffett and Rupert Murdoch, Feinstein's Chinese money connections are in conflict with the interests of the people of the US and in conflict with the role of an intelligence chairman.
http://members.tripod.com/unionplainfacts/documents/archivespage/china.htm

14. In 1994, Feinstein ignored human rights issues in China and led the effort to renew most-favored-nation trade status for China at a time when her husband was preparing to invest $150 million of his clients' money, along with $2 million to $3 million of his own, in China.

15. Feinstein has been silent about the 911 Israeli govt's role in the WTC plot.

16. Feinstein pushed for the leasing of a S California naval base to a Chinese company Cosco with which her husband has financial ties.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/13/us/senators-ask-for-inquiry-on-leasing-of-california-base-to-chinese.html

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/12/02/18701603.php

PS - Want to know which 'Politicians are Corrupt'..?

Its Easy...

Just look at 'How Much (Net Worth) they had when they started their Political Careers and how much their (Net Worth) is now...:yes4:

Selene

28th January 2013, 03:27

Golly, RamparttRanger ~

Personally, I have utterly no idea about the specifics of weapons. That's 'way 'way beyond my experience. But I do respect your sincerity and diligence in researching this. I wish I could comment in detail, but I simply can't. I'm sure others here are more astute.

At any rate, I am highly appreciative of your efforts here.

Write on, my friend.

Cheers,

Selene

Rocky_Shorz

28th January 2013, 04:10

the first time I saw the gun being pulled out of the trunk I thought shotgun... seeing the size of the bullet dropping confirmed it for me.

The car was owned by a person arrested several times for selling guns illegally...

now we find out he drove his mother's car there?

so who drove the other car in he supposedly drove?

was one of the people caught in the woods or pinned to the ground the criminal?

who was with the nun?

and now one more question, who flew a plane under the news chopper?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=&v=GYvw6dL-1fo

RampartRanger

28th January 2013, 04:18

I don't see what's that suspicious...could be the authorities (lots of PDs have access to small aircraft), news media (odd but not unheard of), or just a regular civilian flight (most likely IMO). The airspace over the area wouldn't suddenly become restricted and the plane might not even be that low since we don't know the height of the helicopter or the level of zoom on the camera...I'll admit though the helicopter was probably pretty low. Odd, certainly...but will anything come of it? I doubt it.

I recently found this must watch documentary on a YouTube playlist...please, share this with everyone!
w-rHANzLOgY
EDIT: For some reason I can't embed the video as part of the playlist so here's that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rHANzLOgY&list=PLJ0S88eyUTla6PVQdehTld2VPRianZuQI&index=1

giovonni

28th January 2013, 17:27

will share this here...

The Sandy Hook Controversy - James Tracy on GRTV

Descriptive:

Published on Jan 28, 2013

After writing a series of articles documenting the discrepancies and outright lies in the official narrative of the Sandy Hook shooting, Professor James Tracy of Florida Atlantic University shot to international attention when the establishment media began covering his work. Now, Dr. Tracy is left trying to explain the misinterpretations, lies and soundbites that the mainstream media is using to discredit his work. Find out more in this week's GRTV Feature Interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoiYLp6R8Y&feature=em-uploademail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIoiYLp6R8Y&feature=em-uploademail

RampartRanger

29th January 2013, 19:15

Another great documentary we should all share describing what is REALLY causing these shootings and so much other violence in America today:
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Referee

30th January 2013, 02:43

Forshadowing of SH from the London Olympics? You decide!

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Referee

30th January 2013, 09:04

Gene Rosen remeber his lovely story and his fake cry! well it looks like he works for FEMA! Eugen Rosens photo and name appear on an official website at FEMA!

Someone may want to copy and save this will probably be taken down in 24 hrs.

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learninglight

30th January 2013, 09:21

Hervé

30th January 2013, 10:31

There is one thing to keep in mind regarding this sacrificial massacre: there was an actual drill taking place on the day the shooting occurred. If there was a drill, then there had to be crisis actors available around... so having actors to hand, at the scene, is not at all far fetched.

Here is another summary of these events from Henry Makow's website (http://www.henrymakow.com/sandy-hook-was-a-drill.html):

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Sandy Hook Was a Drill

January 27, 2013

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/obamanotearbest.jpeg
(President Obama, wiping a non-existent tear, over Sandy Hoax massacre.)

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Inconsistencies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DGIM0SaSL5k#!), upbeat demeanor and bad acting suggest Sandy Hook was sold to participants as a "training exercise." The ensuing controversy over whether a massacre actually took place may be intended to create confusion and division.

By Melanie Lamport
("R you Sandy or R you Hooked?" (http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/01/27/r-u-sandy-or-r-u-hooked), abridged& edited by henrymakow.com)

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/Tracy.jpeg
James Tracy, a tenured professor from Florida Atlantic University, is suggesting the deaths at Sandy Hook may have resulted from a training exercise. Tracy says that "crisis actors" may have been employed in a conspiracy to shape public opinion in favor of gun control. [NO these mass shootings are not about taking away your AK-47 hunting rifle]

Tracy probably got the idea from the "leaked" Pottawattamie County, Iowa Emergency Management Agency document, Operation Closed Campus Exercise Plan (ExPlan). This describes a DHS-approved drill such as Sandy Hook.

Click here (http://pottawattamie.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/document1.pdf) or here (http://wellaware2dotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/document1.pdf) to download your own copy of the ExPlan before the Internet police remove it for security reasons.

Where are the bodies or photos of bodies or crime scene photos? What about a surveillance video or still images from the scene or a timeline that makes some sense? [2]

Look at this screen-shot showing (http://worldtruth.tv/proof-that-sandy-hook-shooting-was-an-inside-job/)a blog post from the YouCaring.com charity website for Dec. 10 (now removed).

You can find more images with the Google time-stamp archived at Photos: Sandy Hook smoking guns emerge or click here if the article was "removed" to protect National Security.

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/drill.jpeg
(This is a drill,children. If 20 children & 6 teachers had actually been slaughtered, they would be running away in terror.)

The United Way victim's fundraising website page was created and titled specifically for the Sandy Hook shootings. All the dates are either around a month or a couple days prior to the actual shooting in the once-tranquil suburban Newtown on December 14, 2012.

My question is why CNN (one of the six companies that control the media) would let Anderson Cooper or Ben Swann question whether "the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place -- at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation's news media have described." Fox News broadcast journalist Ben Swann, is calling for the release of the outside video to the school where Lanza entered the building.

These rampage-killings are either full scale Department of Homeland Security planned drills with "crisis actors," (http://www.memoryholeblog.com/) staged MK-Ultra "false-flag" (http://www.thegovernmentrag.com/so-long-loughner-a-life-sentence-for-a-framed-patsy.html#.UMAh6hi8G7I)events, or the latest episode of Assassination TV for aliens living on the planet Mars. Operation Rampage Killing

DISCREPANCIES PART OF THE PSY OP?

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/laughingrobbie.jpeg

Do you really believe all that free bandwidth exists in the world so that you can watch Robbie Parker get into his acting mode before he gives his "B" performance as a grieving parent? Click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w)to watch the video. Do you hear him saying [around the sixth second] ".... do you want me to read the cards?"

Or what about the Associated Press/Newsday and the New York Daily News articles with conflicting accounts on whatreallyhappend at Sandy Hook. [7]

December 15 AP reports: "Only the rifle was used on the victims." A statement supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut State's chief medical examiner. Carver's examination found that of the "seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims," all of them had "three to 11 wounds apiece."

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/carver.jpeg
Carver says that the gunman was able to reload so quickly because he used a "military-style rifle rigged with two "taped magazines." [8]

However, later the New York Daily News reports that of the "three guns Adam Lanza is supposed to have brought to the school, "the rifle was left in the trunk."

I am not interested in whether the deaths resulted from hundreds of rounds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZo_iOPqXew) of .233 caliber bullets which were fired with deadly accuracy, in minutes by a "scrawny" 20-year-old with "a rifle" ... that was still in the trunk of his car in the parking lot.

I want to know why the Wayne Carver and Robbie Parker videos haven't been removed for "National Security or Privacy Reasons?" Leaving them on the Web serves only one purpose: to lead many to believe that this was some sort of black ops type false flag initiated and carried out with the long-term goal of disarming the American people.

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/teachers.jpeg
(What happened to dead principal and teachers? Some may have been killed or relocated. It's for a good cause- gun control.)

Put another way, I am suggesting that the public reaction/controversy over the 2nd Amendment was not only anticipated but was the cornerstone and goal of the plan from the beginning.

Look, if the plan were to disarm American citizens by carrying out massacres like Sandy Hook, then why do they need so many of these Jokers?

What's going on here? Do you really believe Adam Lanza or James Holmes woke up one morning believing they were in a Batman movie, painted their hair red, and then went on a rampage killing of innocent children?

(What happened to the dead children? Some were crisis actors; some may have been killed; some may have been invented.)

What am I saying here? Sandy Hook, Aurora, Columbine and Tucson were never about gun control or mental health; they were about instilling fear, anxiety, apprehension and foster feelings of resentment and rage in order to create negative energy.

Fear that another lone gunman will wake up one day and kill a bunch of innocent kids. Sandy Hook and the other mass shootings are about the negative energy that was the inevitable outcome of the debate over gun control.

Coming soon, why would anyone want to create fear and negative energy.

Want more proof? Obama quoted the following biblical passage in his speech at the Sandy Hook Interfaith Prayer Vigil in Newtown:

"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." ~ 2 Corinthians 4:18

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Melanie Lamport is a retired Kindergarten and First Grade teacher living in Southern California. Ms. Lamport graduated from Indiana University with a B.S. in Elementary Education. She received her Master's Degree in Curriculum Studies from DePaul University.

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/caterer.jpeg
(left [sic], caterer on hand for drill.)

Related - Lamport - Operation Rampage Killing (http://therebel.org/liberty/289827-operation-rampage-killing)

------------ Helicopter Footage shows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk8TMW7jhlI)first responders and fire trucks were there in advance for the drill. If this was after a massacre, they would not be standing around, would they?

------ Sandy Hook Counselling Site preceded Drill date (http://www.henrymakow.com/_is_this_the_reason.html)

------------ The impostor Veronique Pozner, "Noah's mother." Noah is not in her family pic. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGiZ6Gblleo&playnext=1&list=PLSMh4dILPz8q_xlELB4xR0Lk8NLSfOV4E&feature=results_video)

------------ Many Hoax Links (http://letsrollforums.com/sandy-hook-hoax-really-t28990.html?t=28990)

----------- Is this the "Deceased" Emilie Parker with Obama? (http://www.henrymakow.com/is-this-deceased-emilie-parker.html)

Makow - Newtown - The 9-11 of Gun Control (http://www.henrymakow.com/whos-really-to-blame-for-school-shooting.html)

Endnotes

[2] Sandy Hook School Massacre Timeline at Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG)

[7] This Associated Press/Newsday article [now removed but archived at

http://www.sott.net/article/254797-Connecticut-Chief-Medical-Examiner-School-massacre-perpetrators-used-military-style-rifles-that-were-rigged-to-reload-quickly-Sandy-Hook-autopsies-worst-I-ve-seen#reply13318

[8] Sandy Hook Massacre: Official Story Spins Out of Control (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/massacrestoryspin18dec12.shtml) (Dec. 18, 2012)

Most of the initial mainstream media reports have since been rewritten to fit 'new' facts proclaimed by 'law enforcement officials'. Here's an example from Business Insider. The following excerpts are the opening paragraphs from the 'same' article, one earlier original version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CWDsgFx9gs), followed by the later revised version (http://www.businessinsider.com/what-gun-did-the-sandy-hook-shooter-use-2012-12#ixzz2F6Axae4l): The massacre [...] was reportedly perpetrated with a .233 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol.

(Below, Killer on the loose inside, and they are waiting in neat lines outside.)

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/drill2.jpg

The Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of the shooter's car. The Sig Sauer and Glock pistols were the only weapons used in the shooting, according to CBS. Now the question is what kind of magazine would allow a shooter to fire "100" rounds in such a short period. Indeed, I was wondering the same thing. How could two pistols do so much damage? The report was updated as follows: The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 26 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol, according to NBC:

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

Altogether, though, it doesn't matter what type of weapon the shooter used. The bottom line is that it was likely a magazine fed, semi-automatic, with enough rounds to shoot "100 shots" in a matter of minutes, as quoted in USA Today

[9] Colorado Theater Massacre Suspect Remains Jailed (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-14-dead-in-colorado-theater-shooting/)

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First Comment from Brian

Lately I have been thinking that they left behind all these anomalies and loose ends just to screw with our minds. Or maybe they really did actually screw up the operation. Who knows?

Check out the incredible similarity in appearance between an unidentified woman in the much speculated about Greenberg online photo album and the school psychologist named Mary Sherlach who is said to have been one of the first killed in the rampage -
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/marysherlachvsunknownwomaninGreenbergalbum_zps37dd56f1.png (http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/marysherlachvsunknownwomaninGreenbergalbum_zps37dd56f1.png)Same eyes, lips, nose, etc. You can even see the same vertical indentation on the nose in both photos.

There appear to be several other lookalikes in this online photo album such as a girl named Riley Harmon, who looks remarkably similar to teacher Kaitlin Roig
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/kaitlinroigphonyteachersandyhookisreallyrileyharmon_zps1c580caa.png (http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/kaitlinroigphonyteachersandyhookisreallyrileyharmon_zps1c580caa.png) who gave a somewhat over the top, hammy account of her experience during the alleged shooting.

For readers not up to speed on this particular subject, the Greenberg album I am referring to is an online Picasso photo album containing numerous pictures of an extended family, and their various friends and associates, of a one Greenberg family based out of Florida. Allegations that several figures from this album posed as, or were used as simulated victims in the Gabrielle Giffords shooting were made well over a year before the Sandy Hook incident.

And how about the mother of little Ella Seaver, student of Sandy Hook Elementary School who looks just like B- grade horror movie actress Debbie Rochon who starred in, of all things, "The Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre" from the year 2000? - side by side image here -
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/sidebysideellaseaveracressrochon_zps05b7bbe4.png (http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt203/retklb2009/sidebysideellaseaveracressrochon_zps05b7bbe4.png)Note the name of the studio she currently works for "Bloodbath Productions" Isn't that cute?

I also find it interesting that the brother of the mother of six year old Noah Pozner, Alexis Haller, is a Vatican lawyer representing the Holy See in court cases involving child sexual abuse cases against the church -
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-16/politics/36384019_1_noah-pozner-vice-president-biden-newtown (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-16/politics/36384019_1_noah-pozner-vice-president-biden-newtown)He also wrote, or co-wrote a bill, presented to a committee run by Joe Biden, that would make it possible for authorities to prosecute anyone failing to report a gun owner who later commits a crime with a gun.

Take a look at his sister, Veronique Pozner, whose son Noah was allegedly slain at Sandy Hook, being interviewed by CNN's Anderson Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZLd8W5vlys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZLd8W5vlys) Notice there is no visible breath coming from their mouths even though the temperature is near freezing, and to top it off, Cooper's disappearing nose, which would seem to indicate the interview took place in front of a green screen on a set. Debunkers have tried to claim this anomalie is due to "compression" that occurred when the video was uploaded to You Tube, but as the video above shows, the same "disappearing nose" can be seen in the original CNN clip taken right from their own website. Perhaps they will clean it up and re-post it back to the CNN site now that the cat is out of the bag. Then they can say the conspiracy theorists got it wrong again.

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As for predictability, statistics show that there always is a spike in guns' sales after a shooting... so the predictability of mass shootings is that guns' sales are gona soar... hence these shootings are directly getting a population armed to the teeth.

So, then, what is the intent of getting a population armed to the teeth beside profits for guns dealers?

Well, if it's in the line of population reduction, then the objective is to get that population to be divided on a hot topic and spark a civil war... I think it's Simon Parkes who recounted something to the effect that ETs wouldn't even have to reduce the population since they would let the humans do it all by their lone self.

Rocky_Shorz

30th January 2013, 17:46

Tried to post the full article but have no idea why the pictures wont show so plz follow the link below

The Sandy Hook Tragedy: An Inquisitive Visit to Newtown, Connecticut

My partner and I became fed up with the mainstream media’s depiction of what took place in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012.

So on January 20 we traveled there from our home in Ottawa, Canada in an effort to visit the sites and respectfully approach the locals.

Link : http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-tragedy-an-inquisitive-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/5320784

Sharon

thank you so much for sharing that with us sharon, as far as I know these are the first pictures shared of the school since the tragedy.

as cold as we may sound on the subject, the truth is very painful of lives lost in a senseless tragedy...

we really do care...

http://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pd_0018.jpg

spiritwind

30th January 2013, 19:17

Tried to post the full article but have no idea why the pictures wont show so plz follow the link below

The Sandy Hook Tragedy: An Inquisitive Visit to Newtown, Connecticut

My partner and I became fed up with the mainstream media’s depiction of what took place in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012.

So on January 20 we traveled there from our home in Ottawa, Canada in an effort to visit the sites and respectfully approach the locals.

Link : http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-tragedy-an-inquisitive-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/5320784

Sharon

Yes, thank you for posting this. Everything about this just seems so wrong on every level. Something very dark and ominous afoot there. Almost seems like the town is under some kind of quarantine.

Kimberley

30th January 2013, 20:15

Learninglight thank you for posting the "The Sandy Hook Tragedy: An Inquisitive Visit to Newtown, Connecticut" article that was a great find!

Also Referee and all I found another Gene Rosen video posted today...they sure look very similar to me the ear thing is uncanny...

7u7-ERvDOys

Earth Angel

30th January 2013, 20:49

sllim11

31st January 2013, 00:20

rosen seems to be quite attracted to children... ??

Hervé

31st January 2013, 08:24

[...]

... the ear thing is uncanny...

Not sure what the video poster has been inhaling but I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pipe:

https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbRJfWsi_53o7-p-F79w9VU4m5gckkhteIEI_3wey9pCCncFFa68no7bGKv_f4bid1V9RynAqQkuw5xgMzL1vCej/Image-2013-1-31-3h9mn52.jpg?psid=1

https://fwtinw.bn1.livefilestore.com/y1ppHjlnjhevbQpmRFONgra7uIy9si9Jouj8PF0yfAvp5LDGP1P5sLFU1rgslzfyxAwbFO5X8tNtwfLws0cjTnrzVxROZg3eYp9/Image-2013-1-31-3h8mn39.jpg?psid=1

That's a "no match"... made me add another quote to my signature...

pilot

31st January 2013, 08:48

hmm, I thought it was the same at first, but look at the top part of the ears, the one on the bottom looks more elongated than the other.

Adalwulf

31st January 2013, 10:14

Yes, thank you for posting this. Everything about this just seems so wrong on every level. Something very dark and ominous afoot there. Almost seems like the town is under some kind of quarantine.

something is most assuredly wrong with the sandy hook situation, I can feel the deceit and negative energy running thru it......I don't discuss the situation with my friends because they have a very narrow view on such subjects....they don't try and look beyond what their eyes are seeing....

modwiz

31st January 2013, 10:27

From Avalonian and VTer Jim Fetzer. A look at these shootings and the details that do not work.

The Nexus of Tyranny: The strategy behind Tucson, Aurora and Sandy Hook

Sandy Hook poses so many uncertainties and even contradictions that it should come as no surprise that virtually every aspect of whatever happened is being subjected to the most minute scrutiny. I have now published multiple articles about it here at Veterans Today, including “Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and anti-Gun ‘Psy Op’”, where others, such as historian of science and expert on 7/7, Nicholas Kollerstrom, have addressed the parallels between those events. On one web site, I have even been asked by a serious but skeptical reader whether it is even possible that none of the children were actually killed.
The question is not as unwarranted as most of the public might believe. If this had been a real shooting of children, there would have been a sense of panic and of hysteria. EMTs would have rushed into the school building. The children would have been rushed out on stretchers and into ambulances and other vehicles and rushed to a hospital for doctors to treat them and formally pronounce the death of those who had been killed. Nothing remotely like this happened. The police cordoned off everyone from the school. No one was allowed to see the bodies. They were transported in the dead of night. It was simply bizarre beyond belief. A resourceful student has turned up visual evidence that Sandy Hook was not even an operating school, which, if she is right, discloses the stunning enormity of the hoax:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/30/the-nexus-of-tyranny-the-strategy-behind-tucson-aurora-and-sandy-hook/

In the below picture is supposedly Giffords with her head wounds, known for massive bleeding. No one is bloody, the towel on her head is remarkably, barely stained, and there is no sign of blood or other fluid being administered to her. Plummeting, and life threatening, blood pressure issue is not being addressed here.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/giffords1.jpg

778 neighbour of some guy

31st January 2013, 10:56

The very relaxed facial expressions of the medics speak volumes too, this is not real imo.

Look at the crowd, all facing the other direction, as if nothing serious is happening/ has happened, boy the quality of those crisis actors is deplorable.

giovonni

31st January 2013, 21:10

Doing The Sandy Hook Firehouse Shuffle ... http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png

************

Via ~ Mel Fabregas ...

Walking in Circles Around Sandy Hook Firehouse - Creating The Illusion of More People ...

Published on Jan 29, 2013

Here's the original footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2ITHV6k-U

If you pay attention to what is really going on around the Sandy Hook Firehouse- People are walking in circles, out one door, in the other, over and over again. They also walk all the way around the firehouse, only to enter through another door.

Why are these people doing this? Do they mean to keep leaving and entering over and over again- or is this the same method that is used in movie productions where extras walk around on a loop in the foreground and background to create the illusion of a busier atmosphere?

It is interesting that Gene Rosen appears to have spent quite a bit of time around the firehouse- he doesn't really mention this much in his interviews though- Who is the man Gene Rosen keeps talking to?

The actors at the Sandy Hook firehouse - Spinning around and around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrXPHwl11io
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrXPHwl11io

Dennis Leahy

1st February 2013, 03:35

From Avalonian and VTer Jim Fetzer.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/30/the-nexus-of-tyranny-the-strategy-behind-tucson-aurora-and-sandy-hook/

I think Dennis Cimino wrote most of the article, but it was a tag team. For those that don't know Dennis Cimino, he's been sticking his neck out - way out - and telling the truth as he knows it (whistleblowing) for about 30 years. In an alternate Universe (one where the US government was not corrupt to the marrow of its bones) he'd be considered a hero. Instead, he's lucky to be alive.

We at Avalon are always looking for a truthful "insider." Here he is. (Check his resume to see where he has been 'inside' far enough in the military to have a pretty damn good clue.) For example, he dissected the cockpit data recorder "evidence" from 9/11 like no one else could have - and proved it was fraudulent. He has a keen eye for detail - and a keen nose for Zionist infiltration.

Dennis

CdnSirian

1st February 2013, 03:56

learninglight

1st February 2013, 08:44

:confused:klrRU-SNUj0

not sure if this video is where the above pics of the school came from........apologies if I missed this being posted already

Oh and just like the whole Sandy Hook story is full if errors, they cant even spell Prosecuted on the sign warning Trespassers will be PROSUCETED ! lol

Thanks Earth Angel.

Problems: an unmarked school - how do we know it's Sandy Hook?

A couple from Ottawa drives down there - so curious? And then posts this video with a B movie background track? Uh huh.

The text posted goes by too quickly to be read. They are not intent in their message. That's my take. Weird!

Hi CdnSirian

Do we know the couple made, uploaded and posted this movie with the B movie sound track or did someone else put this together using the original article?

You say here quote : Problems: an unmarked school - how do we know it's Sandy Hook?
Imo we don't until proven either way

Quote : A couple from Ottawa drives down there - so curious? And then posts this video with a B movie background track? Uh huh.
Not watched the movie as my dongle crap, sounds like they over done it with the music which seems to happen a lot lol; but the still pic on the video looks the same from the article i posted earlier

Quote : The text posted goes by too quickly to be read. They are not intent in their message. That's my take. Weird!
Reading through the article i found it to be quiet believable, they didn't over elaborate imo;

Some quotes from article below

"We found that the school can not be seen from the front when coming down Riverside Road which is the only access to the school passing the fire house. This may explain why there was no “media” photos of the broken / shot out glass at the front.'

"Gene Rosen lives next door to the fire house. Thus Ms. Victoria Soto’s students that landed on Mr. Rosen’s yard had to come down Dickenson Drive and turn right, passing the fire house, to get to Mr. Rosen’s. A lady at the Rosen house would not answer the door when I knocked.'

"We sat at the 100 Church Hill Restaurant for a couple of hours. There were about 10 people inside.

There were about 100 drawings from children from around the country (if not the world) offering condolences and well wishes. No one was talking about these. My partner and I spoke with a couple in their early twenties for an hour or so. They were life long locals.

Eventually they asked why we were in Newtown and we told them we had heard of their tragedy. They did not comment further and we did not push the issue.'

"We then went to the offices of The Newtown Bee, the community’s weekly newspaper, where we spoke with the editor, Mr. Curtis Clark. Mr. Clark did not offer a warm reception and stated from the start that they were concentrating the paper’s efforts on healing efforts and that he had little time. I told him I was there to follow up on The Bee’s report that stated, in part, “A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.” I asked who this officer was, and why he was in the woods.'"

"Mr. Clark told me that there was a number of “conspiracy theories floating around” and “some of them even suggest that the shooting didn’t even happen.” Furthermore, “Snopes.com debunks many of these conspiracy theories.”

I told Clark I was familiar with Snopes, but it was The Bee that reported that this was an off duty officer prancing about in the woods on the day of the shooting. Clark would not address this report and became very agitated with me “interrogating” him. “I don’t intend to discuss this any further with you,” he said. Mr. Clark then referred me to the Newtown Police for any additional questions. As I was walking out of the office I overheard a lady on the phone explaining to a caller that “there is an ongoing investigation,” and referring the caller to Snopes.com.'

"Next, we proceeded to the Newtown Police Department. After entering I walked up to the glassed-in safety window, picked up the phone on the wall and asked the attendant on the other side if I could speak with the Communications Officer. I explained why. He directed me to The Newtown Bee.

I advised him that The Bee had directed me to them and he asked me to have a seat. The room was rectangular with doors on both ends. Then, a male and female police officer simultaneously entered through each door. I addressed the female sergeant, telling her I would like to know who was the off duty tactical officer The Bee reported on on December 27. A male officer I was not addressing repeatedly ordered me to remove my hands from my pockets.

The female sergeant told me that the man detained was the uncle of a student at the school who had gone to get his niece. I asked about the police scanner audio where the dispatcher reports that a caller from inside the school saw “two shadows” run by the gym at the back of the school.

Additionally, an officer apparently arriving at the scene stated

“I’ve got ‘em (sic). They are running at me down Crestwood.”

Crestwood Drive borders that backside of the school beyond some woods. The sergeant told me that this was the confusion of the day and that there were not two individuals. “It was just someone that went crazy, killed a bunch of people and then killed himself,” she said consolingly.

“You have nothing to worry about. You are safe.”

I still wonder'

If you missed it before its here Link : http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-tragedy-an-inquisitive-visit-to-newtown-connecticut/5320784

I'm still having a good look around see what surfaces

sharon

778 neighbour of some guy

1st February 2013, 10:21

Earth Angel

1st February 2013, 16:56

well Jennifer Hudson, the angel of death is at it again........some believe she sold her soul for fame... 'sacrificing' her mother, brother and nephew, she then stepped in to replace Whitney Houston after her sudden death at the Grammys and now she will be singing with the kids from Sandy Hook.....wow! for someone who finished 6th place in American Idol she is really going places....its either her or Beyonce all over these things!

http://news.yahoo.com/jennifer-hudson-sing-sandy-hook-chorus-200621126--spt.html

Slorri

1st February 2013, 20:20

Person With a Camera Shows up During the Sandy Hook Hoax - Is Kicked Out Promptly
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Hervé

1st February 2013, 20:51

The most likely template scenario used at Sandy Hook ES and many other shootings of this kind:

My cousin was one of the ones charged in the @### school shooting [Atlanta] (out of respect to him he made me promise not to tell because he was placed under gag order. When truth is damaging you must remain silent!). What he told me was sick. It was sponsored by their local government(mayor), they were doing rituals for summoning dark entities and the real person manipulating the child who was found guilty was never even charged. I was awake already when he told me and had researched many things I knew and he agreed it had an agenda which we see playing out on the stage now. Love to all involved, for its the one thing that our society has too little of.

PS: BTW, welcome to avalon, Happyjak!

Hervé

2nd February 2013, 08:04

Another facet of the rolling dice beside the clamored gun control, from Natural News (http://www.naturalnews.com/038755_thought_crimes_Judge_Dredd_psychiatry.html):

Era of thought crimes now here as psychiatrists given 'Judge Dredd' authority to strip citizens of their constitutional rights

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/authors/MikeAdams.jpgMonday, January 21, 2013
by Mike Adams (https://plus.google.com/u/0/108002809946749848449?rel=author), the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...) (http://www.naturalnews.com/index-HRarticles.html)

(NaturalNews) Most Americans operate under the assumption that your thoughts are your own private business and that they cannot be used against you to forfeit your rights and freedoms. It's only actions that matter when it comes to being judged, right? Merely thinking something doesn't mean you're going to act on it, right?

Enter Barack Obama and his 23 executive orders issued last week (http://www.naturalnews.com/038706_Obama_gun_control_executive_orders.html). (And don't forget New York mafia Governor Cuomo and his new "psychiatric police (http://www.naturalnews.com/038692_New_York_police_state_psychiatry.html)" law.) Suddenly merely thinking about doing something violent or dangerous can cause all your constitutional rights to be stripped away by the state. Here's how it works:

If you're seeing a psychiatrist or psychologist and you say something that might be considered violent -- "I can't stand my boss and I wish he would just die!" -- under Obama's executive orders the psychiatrist must now report you to the government as a possible danger to society. This is done in complete violation of doctor-patient confidentiality, of course.

Once the government receives this information, it then conducts a raid on the home of the person in question, seizes his or her firearms, and places that person on a "no gun buy" list maintained by the FBI, completely outside of law and due process.

This isn't a bill being debated that might be passed into law -- this is in effect right now! This is what happens if you visit a psychiatrist (http://www.naturalnews.com/psychiatrist.html) tomorrow. And you can bet that every psychiatrist or psychologist will immediately report even the smallest hint of violent thinking to government authorities in order to avoid being blamed for NOT reporting that person if something violent happens.

So now, with the stroke of a pen, Obama has transformed the entire industry of modern psychiatry (http://www.naturalnews.com/psychiatry.html) into the thought police with Judge Dredd-like authority over your life.

No judge, no jury, no due process: You are just GUILTY by decree

It used to be that a judge had to declare you mentally incompetent in order to take away your constitutional rights. That process, found in the judicial branch of government (http://www.naturalnews.com/government.html), at least gave people the opportunity to present refuting evidence and in many cases even benefit from the help of legal counsel. But now all that has been stripped away in the idiotic, irrational reaction to the actions of one crazed person who murdered children at Sandy Hook. Now the executive branch of government has taken over the entire domain of mental health.

Thanks to Obama's executive orders, you no longer have the right to the privacy of your own thoughts. There mere act of seeking professional help for anguish, or anger, or imbalanced emotions now makes you GUILTY of things you've never even done!

...gun (http://www.naturalnews.com/gun.html) owners who may reasonably or unreasonably think, 'I'm not going anywhere near a mental health person, because if they misinterpret something I say as an indication I'm going to hurt myself or someone else, they're going to report me and take away my guns,' said Paul Applebaum, director of the Division of Law, Ethics, and Psychiatry at Columbia University in an NBC News article (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/18/16588357-anger-violent-thoughts-are-you-too-sick-to-own-a-gun?lite).

That story goes on to report:

New York's expanded gun law signed by Cuomo on January 15 goes further than most state laws in that it requires mental health professionals to report any person considered "likely to engage in conduct that would result in serious harm to self or others" to local health officials. Those officials would be authorized to report that person to law enforcement, which could seize the person's firearms.

Psychiatrists have zero credibility to begin with

The problem with all this is that this "Judge Dredd" diagnosis is being made by the very same people who are steeped in an industry of fictitious diseases and disorders.

When a psychiatrist witnesses an active, intelligent child, he sees Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. When a psychiatrist visits with a person who seems to be sad, he sees a deficiency of antidepressant drugs requiring immediate chemical intervention.

How on earth are we supposed to trust these same people to observe someone sharing their most intimate, private thoughts and not leap to the conclusion that they might be a danger to society? Isn't it true that nearly everyone, at one time or another, has held angry thoughts about a coworker, a neighbor, a family member, an ex-intimate partner or some other member of society? What person on this planet has never experienced the thought of violence against some other person?

So now we get to the real aim of all this: To criminalize everyone for completely normal human emotions and experiences. Now, the mere expression of anger will, itself, be "diagnosed" as a mental disorder that automatically strips from you any and all rights as an American citizen. You can then be hauled off to the Obama gulag and held under indefinite detention as if you were an enemy combatant. After all, you might be a terrorist! And if you get angry about being arrested, then that only proves that you're a violent person, indeed!

Of course, if your anger is only directed at gun owners, that's perfectly acceptable. You can say, right on national television, that you think we ought to shoot gun owners and murder their families, and this sort of speech will be widely applauded by the likes of Piers Morgan, Anderson Cooper and other CNN puppets of the new psychiatric police state that has been covertly erected around your mind while you were sleeping.

What can you do? STOP visiting any and all psychiatrists and psychologists, period

Your only defense against all this is to immediately stop visiting any and all psychiatrists, psychologists and counselors. They are now government snitches working for Obama. They're no longer advocates for you and your rights; they are thought police enforcers propping up a rapidly deteriorating police state.

FACE IT: There is no more doctor-patient confidentiality in America. Your psychiatrist, if you're foolish enough to actually have one, is now part of the secret police network that reports to the Department of Homeland Security. (And yet you pay the bill.)

This is not a conspiracy theory and it's not a scary warning about some possible dystopian future that might come true. This is here right now. This is in effect today, all across America. If you don't believe me, go visit a psychiatrist, explain that you sometimes (for example) imagine using hand grenades to blow up little children, and see how long it takes before you're swept away in a straight jacket and stripped of all your freedoms. You will be institutionalized within hours.

This is it, folks: We have entered the era of thought crimes (http://www.naturalnews.com/thought_crimes.html) enforcement in America.

And psychiatrists are the "pre-crime" snitches who now wield the power of Judge Dredd over all your freedoms.

Your emotions must now be identical to those expressed by the state

All this is ripped right out of George Orwell's 1984 novel, where a citizen who held the wrong expression on his face during a government propaganda announcement was arrested as a suspected enemy of the state.

When the state is happy, you must be happy. When the state is outraged (for example at all gun owners following the Sandy Hook shooting), you must mirror that outrage in your own words and expressions. When the state is pushing fear, you must act fearful. Just as in North Korea, when the dear leader dies, you must cry and sob on command, or you are thrown in the gulag.

If your emotions run counter to the official emotions of the state, you are then deemed a danger to society. For example, if the state is happy about passing unconstitutional gun control restrictions but you are outraged at the government for doing so, this disparity in emotional status automatically makes you a danger to society, the government claims. You can be arrested, stripped of all your rights, and even "indefinitely detained" under Obama's anti-humanitarian NDAA law (http://www.naturalnews.com/034537_NDAA_Bill_of_Rights_Obama.html).

Children are now being suspended from school for pointing their fingers (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/2-kids-suspended-for-pointing-fingers-nerf-toy-gun-causes-another-school-to-go-on-lockdown/31685/) and imagining their fingers are guns. You know, as in the old-time children's imaginary game called "Cops and robbers." The crime, we are told, is in the imagining of a gun!

Similarly, other children are now being thrust into school lockdowns and armed SWAT raids (http://www.naturalnews.com/038754_Nerf_assault_rifles_background_checks.html) for the "crime" of bringing a lime green toy Nerf gun to school.

America has entered a phase of runaway delusional insanity. And remember, they've put the psychiatrists in charge. If this isn't the epitome of putting the mental patients in charge of the insane asylum, nothing is.

Where this is headed

Make no mistake, friends: This power is going to be abused to the extreme. Psychiatrists are going to wield this power against their political enemies (i.e. anyone who doesn't bow down to psychiatry). "Mental disorders" are now going to be used as weapons to arrest selected people and lock them away in secret government gulags.

The DSM-V "psychiatry bible" will now be used as an encyclopedia of fabricated justifications to strip away human rights, civil rights and the Bill of Rights from anyone targeted by the system.

When does it get even worse? When so-called "mental health checks" for all citizens become mandated by the government.

During all this, there will be absolutely no discussion allowed of the link between psychiatric drugs and violent behavior among school shooters. That's another inconvenient truth the government would prefer never be acknowledged. Merely mentioning this, in fact, might get you flagged with some sort of mental disorder.

Finally, consider this: In a nation where the President is an imposter and the Vice President has, by anyone's honest reckoning, lost half his marbles, all those who seek power are the most insane people of all. They hate normalcy. They hate spirituality, ethics, dedication and hard work. They seek to destroy all those who represent that which is good in the universe, and they hope to infect our culture, our economy and our world with a web of cruel delusions. The sooner you recognize that, the better your chances of surviving it.

jackovesk

2nd February 2013, 14:22

Sandy Hook Grieving Parent, New Info..!

Wednesday, January 30, 2013

We now have a truly grief srticken parent from the Sandy Hook massacre whose testimony is believable, a man who has a hard time containing his emotions regarding the death of his six year old son James, 6 weeks after the alledged shooting.

We also now have a cached screen capture of Joseph Ametrano's Vimeo Account that he removed from Vimeo Jan 9th just after Idaho Picker put up a YouTube video exposing him and his Sandy Hook Tribute video that predated the massacre.

A parent of one of the slain children, Mark Mattioli from Newtown CT has now testified in the Connecticut Legislature regarding his views on gun legislation.

Mark's testimony is very convincing evidence that young children have indeed been victimized at Sandy Hook. It is not however, evidence that the children were shot by a 'lone nut assassin' by the name of Adam Lanza. We do know that there are least two families who were told that they would not be allowed to view the bodies. Their testimony is very curious and unusual.

I am not aware of whether or not Mark was able to see his son and verify that he was shot. For all we know the children could now be the property of Satanic pedophiles. The evil miscreants who have been staging the mass murders are not normal people.

Officials so far have not released any evidence whatsoever to back up their claims that a shooting took place. Where are the photos/videos of bodies coming out of the school? Have any been seen? We have not seen photos of the shot up cars and school windows, and we have seen no video tape of Adam Lanza entering the school. We have no evidence Lanza was even there as we now know it was not his mother's car that officials found the long gun in and subsequently towed from the scene.

Everything about this whole event still stinks from the top to the bottom. The Sandy Hook 'tribute video' posted on Vimeo by one Joeseph Ametrano prior to the massacre, with a Vimeo time stamp, two Google time stamps, and a twitter time stamp, all predating December 14, and all showing the video id vimeo.com/53220123 cannot be explained away. Four individual time stamps of an identical url is not coincidence. Futhermore the Vimeo movie was taken down on January 9th right after Idaho Picker posted his video exposing the pre-produced tribute on YouTube on January 8th. Ametrano's Vimeo account has been closed as well, however the evidence he did not want you to see, has been cached on the wayback machine.

Weird Scenes from Sandy Hook

Who are these two ugly men dressed as nuns? Big feet in mens shoes and intent look on their faces!

What is the one on the left holding and concealing under his garb? Name Tags?

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/7961/images/Two%20Nuns.jpg

PS - Can't Verify..? Got it off (Before its News..?) If real, its another twist in the (Smoking Gun) whole story..?!

20229

The guy on the (Left) is going bald & are they (Police Issue) black sneekers..?!!!

http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2013/01/grieving-sandy-hook-parent-surfaces-2445234.html

Referee

5th February 2013, 04:34

Another piece of the puzzle. Scott Geitzinger the man killed in a car accident around the time of the incident. Yes that guy he was the props manager for the Dark Knight Rises and other Hollywood films. Yes that Scott Geitzinger here is more, also youtube and the Newton Bee have been caught destroying evidence... amid more...

http://uploadsociety.com/The-Sandy-Hook-Rabbit-Hole-Has-No-Bottom_v27161

learninglight

5th February 2013, 08:53

Think these articles belong in this thread as all connected

FYI

Rahm Emanuel to Bully Banks Into Cutting Off Gun Companies

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, a member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns and the guy in charge of the gun controlled murder capitol of America, is planning to pressure banks into cutting off their business with firearms manufactures according to POLITICO:

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, moving to take a lead role in the gun control debate, is turning up the pressure on banks that do business with firearms manufacturers.

Emanuel is sending letters to two major financial institutions, TD Bank and Bank of America, which offer lines of credit to gun makers suggesting that they stop lending money to the manufacturers if they don’t come out for new gun restrictions.

“TD Bank currently aids the gun manufacturing industry through a $60 million revolving line of credit with Smith & Wesson, a gun manufacturer that produces the AR-15 — an assault weapon that was used by James Holmes to kill 12 people and wound 58 in a crowded movie theater in Aurora,” Emanuel’s missive to TD CEO Bharat Masrani states. “I ask you to use your influence to push this company to find common ground with the vast majority of Americans who support a military weapons and ammunition ban and comprehensive background checks.”

Emanuel sent a similarly worded letter to Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan, a bank that does business with Sturm, Ruger & Co.

“Doing business with gun manufacturers might benefit the banks’ bottom line, but they put our police officers, our children and our communities at risk,” said the mayor.

This is astounding. Emanuel is using the power of his office with the backing of the White House agenda to not only bully private industries but to eventually kill them off. As Dianne Feinstein said yesterday, the goal is to “dry up the supply of these weapons over time.”

But Emanuel’s pressure is nothing new. We’ve already seen Bank of America drop gun manufacturers for political reasons and it’s only going to get worse.

McMillan Group International, a company that manufactures firearms and accessories, is claiming that Bank of America asked them find another bank for “political” reasons.

The company, whose different entities have been doing business with Bank of America for more than twelve years, says it has never made a late payment, and never bounced a check.

If you have a Bank of America account, it might be time to think about changing.

Katie Pavlich
News Editor,

Also

San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne is fully supportive of the Obama/Feinstein gun grab, and says if lawmakers play it right Americans can be completely disarmed within “a generation.”

Lansdowne has gone on record saying: “I could not be more supportive of the president for taking the position he has. I think it’s courageous with the politics involved in this process. [And] I think it’s going to eventually make the country safer.”

He made it clear that it may take “a generation,” but new laws could eventually take all guns off the streets.

This is quite a departure from other law enforcement personnel we’ve seen around the country–particularly Sheriffs–who’ve come out firmly against any infringement on the 2nd Amendment. We’ve cheered those officials for standing with the people, and now Lansdowne has taken a position completely opposite them.

Moreover, Lansdowne has also been slamming the NRA in interviews. And he seems overtly thrilled at the money the NRA is being forced to spend to get their message out in the wake of the crime at Sandy Hook Elementary. “We broke the NRA,” says Lansdowne.

Breitbart News contacted Lansdowne’s office about these statements but received no comment.

by AWR Hawkins

Link for both : http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/san-diego-police-chief-we-can-disarm-americans-within-a-generation/

Sharon

Referee

5th February 2013, 13:27

Smoking Gun!

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Referee

5th February 2013, 23:39

Nothing Like a Woman Scorned. This is Susan Getzinger the wife of Scott Getzinger Props manager for the Dark Knight Rises (who died in a car accident!!!) remember Sandy Hook appearing on the Batman Map!!!!!! Aurora Shooting!!!!

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Arrowwind

5th February 2013, 23:55

I was sent an email from the thrive movement today regarding Sandy Hook. Although Gamble doesn't get into all the fraud that the conspiracy folks are looking at he addresses the loss of rights that Sandy Hook may be precluding, as well as the use of drugs the is associated with many of the incidents.

http://www.thrivemovement.com/sandy-hook-tragedy-drugs-rights-and-common-sense.blog he has some videos posted here relevant to the issue and heres the email he sent me

http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs045/1107377459185/img/3.jpg

From Thrive Filmmaker, Foster Gamble

Dear Thrive Movement,

I miss being in touch more with all of you in this amazing Thrive network!

Now that it's a New Year and the holidays are behind us, I will be sharing reflections and my interpretation of the news on my blog (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dXjbna6SsQGUeDOBBbX_mbchcBe9T8aReEooA8vkBsHbOlXCIY5nkzJ_5LMiE4C2LWRG8GDYPHa2ajLcqL1vdv0Z 1kbSIKRCZCyTobnnSmAYUtn31fAMICl05tZdaw-zHBteOALeMHIfipLNdRjV-w==) in the coming months.

One of the most critical stories to take a deeper look at currently is Sandy Hook (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dXjbna6SsQFp1mks0mJgcD29OrByZD1cFoU8UnTkymYTKR0S8mJCkedClsU1f5vhEophOzY2JH9G27Q5y-7I00_V6nHteox9GlxRU_NGVCKqVgkeNy_-K02rTwJK0x-Lvkp8Fj2c-QNzb9GzLY475rHWeusjm0R8VtxqvdWOUCVTFualmq4yBvMq9gYyd2Do).

As I see it, the powers that be are using the tragedy to further an agenda for Global Domination. It is up to each of us to ensure that our grief and anger are not manipulated to further erode our fundamental human rights.

I am committed to non-violation and that includes non-violence except in true self-defense. Our ability to defend ourselves against authoritarian regimes is what the second amendment was written to ensure. It is not something I am willing to relinquish.

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This is the analysis that you won't get in mainstream media and is critical to protecting us from manipulation and toxic pharmaceuticals as well as to understanding the role that an armed citizenry - or an unarmed citizenry - has played throughout history.

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Referee

6th February 2013, 09:30

Wow is all I can say Suspects yes with an s have a look.

However, neither Vance nor the CT Attorney General's office have ever ruled out the possible presence of other suspects. The New Haven Register reports Vance as having said: "Whenever you conduct an investigation you don’t speculate as to where it’s going to take you, as I said, we’re going to look at every single thing, every piece of material and we’ll take it from there."

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342829#ixzz2K6sFQD8w

dianna

6th February 2013, 18:36

Carefully listen to last minute of interview --- this blew my mind, as I think this interview happened very shortly after SandyHook

Gene Rosen "I want the children to be the basis for our solution" --- this creeped me out completely --- solution to what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSvKHr8ZF2I

Slorri

6th February 2013, 20:04

Yes, dianna, well spotted. Obviously there is some kind of solution they are aware of.

Earth Angel

6th February 2013, 20:18

Conchis

6th February 2013, 20:22

dianna

6th February 2013, 20:34

Akasha

7th February 2013, 01:53

SilentFeathers

7th February 2013, 02:32

Bill Ryan

7th February 2013, 02:58

-------

A woman by the name of Bonnie called in to Joyce Riley's Power Hour. She has a friend who was gambling in Las Vegas, and who recognized the Sandy Hook coroner at the same table.

Bonnie's friend said to the coroner: "This is pretty fishy about Sandy Hook, and it's starting to look like a hoax."

Bonnie was told that the coroner replied:"Yes, it WAS a hoax."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72D1GnIuAvM

Hip Hipnotist

7th February 2013, 03:59

One can only imagine that if indeed this was the coroner ( or actor ) in question that it won't be long before another, perhaps even legitimate coroner is presiding over this coroner's ( or actor ) untimely ( or timely ) autopsy. Of course it will no doubt be death by suicide.

Who's taking odds?

After all, he was in Vegas. ;-)

161803398

7th February 2013, 06:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?Wx9GxXYKx_8

Slorri

7th February 2013, 09:18

It's also very curious to me that the first thing he thinks of when he sees children "sitting so nicely" is that they are practicing a skit. I can think of a few things that children might be doing sitting somewhere, but practicing a skit is really not on that list, unless it's Freudian.

skit [skɪt]
n
1. (Performing Arts / Theatre) a brief satirical theatrical sketch
2. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) a short satirical piece of writing
3. a trick or hoax
[related to earlier verb skit to move rapidly, hence to score a satirical hit, probably of Scandinavian origin; related to Old Norse skjóta to shoot]

Fred Steeves

7th February 2013, 11:37

he totally creeps me out! why does he always go off on this ' I wanna read to them and I wanna be their friend and I wanna blah blah blah" ......he said that from the very first interview. its like his script is only so big and he has to keep repeating the same things because he has no actual truths to draw from

There's also an obvious (small) script being performed by the various talking heads on t.v., in the closely related gun grabbing propaganda. It's gotten to the point to where you can make a drinking game out of the buzz words and phrases that are repeated ad nauseum, where all have to drink whenever one is heard. It wouldn't be a very long game.

How often do you hear these?

"Weapons of war"

"Common sense gun legislation"

"Sensible"

"Gun safety measures"

"Comprehensive"

"Holistic approach"

"Mental health" (That one's the real snake in the grass IMO)

"Give law enforcement the tools they need to..."

"Sandy Hook changed everything"

"If we can save even one child's life"

"I'm as pro second ammendment as anyone, but..."

"Everybody agrees"

"The time is now"

"Something must be done"

dianna

7th February 2013, 11:54

Hi SilentFeathers, I will have to find it, but will post it as soon as I do.

His story has not been consistent, that is obvious --- what really got me at first about his lies is that to even actually get to his house you have to pass the firestation, so why would children choose, in a state of trauma, to walk past the firehouse with adults everywhere and sit on his curb? Anyway, its that tiny little statement from the video that nailed it for me ---- Also, yesterday I was reading that on the same street as the Lanza's, on Xmas 2009, 9 houses changed titles --- WTF??? First of all mortgage companies are not even open on Xmas and second what are the chances that nine houses on a small surburban street all have their closing dates on the same day? ---- Its the little pieces of things that are blowing my mind about this, ya know?

Where did you read this about these mortgage changes? do you have a link/source?

dianna

7th February 2013, 13:00

Here is the link

http://pentracks.com/blog/2013/02/links-between-sandy-hook-and-the-occult/

Hi SilentFeathers, I will have to find it, but will post it as soon as I do.

His story has not been consistent, that is obvious --- what really got me at first about his lies is that to even actually get to his house you have to pass the firestation, so why would children choose, in a state of trauma, to walk past the firehouse with adults everywhere and sit on his curb? Anyway, its that tiny little statement from the video that nailed it for me ---- Also, yesterday I was reading that on the same street as the Lanza's, on Xmas 2009, 9 houses changed titles --- WTF??? First of all mortgage companies are not even open on Xmas and second what are the chances that nine houses on a small surburban street all have their closing dates on the same day? ---- Its the little pieces of things that are blowing my mind about this, ya know?

Where did you read this about these mortgage changes? do you have a link/source?

dianna

8th February 2013, 13:09

Came across this today --- other potential suspects??

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342829#ixzz2KBof2ggx

Bill Ryan

8th February 2013, 13:17

778 neighbour of some guy

8th February 2013, 13:37

Posted by dianna

His story has not been consistent, that is obvious --- what really got me at first about his lies is that to even actually get to his house you have to pass the firestation, so why would children choose, in a state of trauma, to walk past the firehouse with adults everywhere and sit on his curb? Anyway, its that tiny little statement from the video that nailed it for me ---- Also, yesterday I was reading that on the same street as the Lanza's, on Xmas 2009, 9 houses changed titles --- WTF??? First of all mortgage companies are not even open on Xmas and second what are the chances that nine houses on a small surburban street all have their closing dates on the same day? ---- Its the little pieces of things that are blowing my mind about this, ya know?

Wouldnt it be unrefreshingly delightfull if all those homes were inhabited by "rent a family actors" after the closures.

You know, like in.............sleeper cells, its been done for hunderds of years......and remember the supposed cold war.

jackovesk

9th February 2013, 02:48

dianna

9th February 2013, 11:00

Sandy Hook on Dr. Oz --- A drill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGrOP_Hd6GY

Referee

9th February 2013, 11:18

Sandy Hook on Dr. Oz --- A drill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGrOP_Hd6GY

Notice how the host moves the child off topic! IMO very telling nice find!

SilentFeathers

9th February 2013, 11:53

His story has not been consistent, that is obvious --- what really got me at first about his lies is that to even actually get to his house you have to pass the firestation, so why would children choose, in a state of trauma, to walk past the firehouse with adults everywhere and sit on his curb? Anyway, its that tiny little statement from the video that nailed it for me ---- Also, yesterday I was reading that on the same street as the Lanza's, on Xmas 2009, 9 houses changed titles --- WTF??? First of all mortgage companies are not even open on Xmas and second what are the chances that nine houses on a small surburban street all have their closing dates on the same day? ---- Its the little pieces of things that are blowing my mind about this, ya know?

Where did you read this about these mortgage changes? do you have a link/source?

Here is the link

http://pentracks.com/blog/2013/02/links-between-sandy-hook-and-the-occult/

Many thanks, and very important: That blog is Fritz Springmeier's -- we should pay close attention to what he says.

Some snips from a blog...

Source: http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/interesting-property-records-yogananda-street/

I’ve been looking at the property records on Yogananda Street where Nancy Lanza reportedly lived with Adam, 36 Yogananda to be exact. I noticed some very interesting things while going through these records. First, Peter Lanza not only owned 36 Yogananda, he also owned 13 Yogananda. There is no record for 13 on the Newtown property records so I’m unable to see the sale dates of that property but the address shows up in People Finders.

Also, several houses on that street all have a “sold” date of 12/25/09, the exact same date. This is the case for 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 30, 31, 34 and 35 and more. The properties can be viewed here, just type in “Yogananda” street. 24 Yogananda is owned by Newtown. I don’t understand a lot about mortgages and property records but it doesn’t make sense to me that almost the entire street shows the same sold date. Nancy Lanza’s house has a sold date of 2/8/11. Edit (1/11/12) – I looked at some different property records and the 12/09 appears to be related to warranties. The 2/8/11 date of the Lanza residence is a quit claim.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/13-yognanada-addresses-blacked-out.jpg?w=900

The most interesting thing that I found is that John Trentacosta owned the property adjacent to the Lanza’s, 34 Yogananda. John Trentacosta is the CEO of Newtown Savings Bank and is also on the Federal Reserve Advisory Council.

http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/trentacosta-federal-reserve.jpg?w=640

He has also been heavily involved in the fundraising for Sandy Hook.

Newtown Savings Bank Teams With United Way for Sandy Hook Fund
http://montville-ct.patch.com/articles/newtown-savings-bank-teams-with-united-way-for-sandy-hook-fund-9512e81d

dianna

9th February 2013, 15:24

People Magazine --- Shipping date December 12 for Sandy Hook issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtvd3d21BKw

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This is the original video from Onetruebabe, but its too blurry to make out the date

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy3aAonFCnY

jackovesk

9th February 2013, 15:40

MSNBC edited the video testimony of a grieving father of a child killed at Sandy Hook to make it appear that he was being heckled by Second Amendment supporters in the audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pac0BLKL608
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pac0BLKL608

Conservatives said the edited footage made it appear as though Neil Heslin was shouted down by Second Amendment advocates at a hearing in Connecticut, and rival network anchor Anderson Cooper agreed.

After finding itself embroiled in another controversy about edited video, NBC News has re-aired a clip its critics say was selectively edited.

On Monday, MSNBC's Martin Bashir aired a video that seemed to show grief-stricken Neil Heslin being heckled by pro-gun lobbyists as he talked about his 6-year-old son, who was killed in Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. While making a plea for gun control at a legislative hearing, Heslin at one point he turned to the audience and said: “I ask if there’s anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: why anybody in this room needs to have one of these assault-style weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips.”

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When the audience remains silent, Heslin adds, “Not one person can answer that question.” And that’s when a few people recited the Second Amendment in response.

The video that host Martin Bashir aired, though, clipped out Heslin's question and pause in the audience's direction. The resulting edit made it look like boisterous audience members interrupted Heslin's testimony. After the edited video aired, Bashir set up pundits with: “A father’s grief, interrupted by the cries of a heckler. That was the scene today in Hartford, Conn., where the parents of children killed at Sandy Hook Elementary testified before an audience that wasn’t always friendly.”

A spokeswoman for MSNBC has declined comment. Although the edited segment is not available on MSNBC’s website, and the unedited version eventually was aired on a subsequent Martin Bashir show and other shows on the networks, conservative activists have pounced. One version, uploaded to YouTube and embedded below, shows Bashir’s version followed by Heslin’s unedited testimony.

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It's not the first time a controversy over editing has plagued NBC News. Ten months ago, NBC's Today -- and subsequently MSNBC -- aired doctored versions of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case, which led to an apology and several people losing their jobs. The tape had been edited to make it appear that George Zimmerman invoked skin color when reporting "a real suspicious guy," deleting the portion where the 911 operator specifically asks Zimmerman to describe Martin’s race.

This week's incident has been the subject of talk radio and other conservative media, which has used it to boost assertions that NBC, MSNBC and much of the mainstream media is biased in favor of liberalism. Indeed, several journalists took MSNBC’s reporting at face value and echoed it, including reporters at The Huffington Post, the Daily Beast, Slate, Media Matters for America and many others collected at the right-wing site, Twitchy.

“The full, unedited video proves the media is lying,” wrote John Nolte at Breitbart.com. "This is not heckling, this is someone respectfully asking a question and receiving a respectful answer."

National radio host Cam Edwards of NRA News spent nearly 20 minutes ripping MSNBC for “as egregious an edit as you can possibly get.” The conservative Media Research Center wrote that “MSNBC’s disgusting lack of journalistic standards have hit a new low.”

It wasn't just conservative media that disagreed with MSNBC's interpretation. CNN's Anderson Cooper, for example, originally tweeted that Heslin was "shouted down," but after seeing the full video, he tweeted: "#SandyHook parent wasn't 'shouted down' as I said in previous tweet. He asked for response and audiences members gave it and were admonished."

MSNBC has declined comment, but the network seems to be standing its ground for now, beginning with Lawrence O’Donnell defending the edited video Tuesday on his show, The Last Word With Lawrence O’Donnell. “Here is what led to a grieving father being heckled by the gun-worshipping fanatics in the audience,” O’Donnell said before playing the unedited portion of Heslin’s testimony. Then he said, “Some right-wing websites sprung to the defense of the hecklers, insisting that they were simply answering Mr. Heslin’s question, but of course they weren't."

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And on Wednesday during Martin Bashir, substitute host Ari Melber said: “On Monday on our program, we heard a portion of a hearing where we heard from Neil Heslin. … We have received a number of comments over the past two days, so we’re going to play the relevant portion of that testimony in full.

“Martin and many others who saw Mr. Heslin’s testimony have called that interruption heckling,” Melber said. “Some disagree. He wanted you to hear it in full, so you can draw your own conclusion. (Watch the clip below.)”

The conservative site NewsBusters quickly chimed in with: "Had Mr. Bashir really wanted his audience to hear the complete video in full, wouldn't he have done so in the first place?"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/msnbc-airs-sandy-hook-fathers-416977

jackovesk

9th February 2013, 16:24

Sandy Hook DA Mentions 'Potential Suspects' - Oops?

Feb 5, 2013

Connecticut State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky has argued that unsealing warrants in the Sandy Hook case might "seriously jeopardize" the investigation by disclosing information known only to other "potential suspects."

Sedensky said that unsealing the warrants would also:

"identify persons cooperating with the investigation, thus possibly jeopardizing their personal safety and well-being."

The statement by the CT prosecutor's office is the first indication from state authorities that Adam Lanza may have not acted alone. The statement was made in support of a motion to continue the seal on the results of five search warrants for 90 more days.

CT State Police Public Affairs Officer Lt. Paul Vance said in an official press release on December 16th that:

The male subject identified as the shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School has been identified as ADAM LANZA DOB: 04/22/92; he resided at 36 Yogananda Street. His cause of death was gunshot wound and his death is ruled a suicide.

However, neither Vance nor the CT Attorney General's office have ever ruled out the possible presence of other suspects. The New Haven Register reports Vance as having said: "Whenever you conduct an investigation you don’t speculate as to where it’s going to take you, as I said, we’re going to look at every single thing, every piece of material and we’ll take it from there."

The CT State Attorney General's Office is handling the investigation of the mass shooting, in which 20 children and 8 adults died last December 14th.

The motion to extend the seal on the records for 90 days was granted by Superior Court Judge John Blawie, who wrote in his decision that:

"The court finds that due to the nature and circumstances of this case and the ongoing investigation, the state's interest in continuing nondisclosure substantially outweighs any right to public disclosure at this time,"

The warrants were for searches, on different dates, of the Lanza home, and of Adam Lanza's mother's two cars. One of the cars, a 2010 black Honda Civic, was the vehicle which Lanza allegedly drove to the crime scene. The other, a 2009 silver BMW, was parked in the garage attached to the Lanza home. The court motion seals the affidavits stating what was found upon execution of the warrants for another 90 days, until late March.

Little else is known about what the authorities may be referring to in support of the motion to seal the affidavits for another 90 days beyond the normal statutory allowance of 14 days. Lt. Vance did say in a press conference on December 15, 2012, somewhat apologetically for not being able to answer all of the reporters' questions, that there were "some cards that we're holding close to our vest."

State's Attorney Sedensky wrote in the motion that:

“No arrests have been made and none are currently anticipated, but have not been ruled out.”

Sedensky said:

"There is information in the search warrant affidavits that is not known to the general public"

An image of the key passages in the court motion is below. The entire document has been uploaded at Scribd by the New Haven Register, the venerable New England newspaper associated with the home of Yale University.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/9/4/8/6/7/i/1/4/0/p-large/sandyhookmotion.jpg

Motion to extend seal on Lanza search warrant affidavits

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342829#ixzz2KQ6iZ1d9

dianna

9th February 2013, 19:01

And now, for something completely different --- LOL, but she speaks the truth (Warning: Profanity)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcogZ2W15_4

dianna

9th February 2013, 21:28

nuff said ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjhdznm08iU

ThePythonicCow

10th February 2013, 08:01

People Magazine --- Shipping date December 12 for Sandy Hook issue

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This is the original video from Onetruebabe, but its too blurry to make out the date

Looking at the first of your two videos, one can see the Youtube path for the Youtube he's viewing (gracious -- Youtube's of Youtube's ...). That Youtube is this one (FvOmkvG2cVA):
FvOmkvG2cVA

Earth Angel

10th February 2013, 16:52

in keeping with the whole theory of actors and Sandy Hook .......Steven Seagal and Sheriff to train Arizona school guards.......this is really getting ridiculous

http://news.yahoo.com/seagal-sheriff-train-arizonans-guard-schools-023031238.html

EYES WIDE OPEN

11th February 2013, 13:41

Walking in Circles Around Sandy Hook Firehouse - Creating The Illusion of More people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrXPHwl11io&feature=player_embedded#!

And another similar video:

People recycling into the Firehouse Up Close Proof - Sandy Hook Shooting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iziyIEnfIMw&feature=player_embedded

Looks like Gene Rosen in one of them.

donk

11th February 2013, 17:37

This is for your consideration, I posted this in the archon thread, which it is perhaps more relevant toward...mods can please remove if you see fit.

Weidner's latest interview (that I could find) has no evidence to add, just a perspective. He only mentions Sandy Hook a couple of times in the 1.5 hours...this is more of a "high level" look at the situation we are in, and for some maybe a new way to look at it:

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EYES WIDE OPEN

11th February 2013, 20:03

What do people make of this mind blowing info....

Sandy Hook RIP/donation webpages created BEFORE the massacre

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/guide-for-how-to-talk-to-children-about-sandy-hook-pre-dated-the-massacre/

We need more duct tape to keep our heads from exploding.

In addition to the four memorial-donation webpages for Sandy Hook victims which were created one to three days BEFORE the massacre, here’s another pre-massacre document.

It’s a PDF document counseling parents and teachers across America how to talk to their children about the terrible shooting deaths of 20 children and 6 adults on the morning of December 14, 2012, in the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The document, titled “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting,” is the work of an organization called Crisis Management Institute (CMI).

Based in Salem, Oregon, with just a P.O. Box address instead of a physical locale, Crisis Management Institute describes itself as follows:

“Our mission at CMI is to help schools prevent crisis for individuals as well as the whole school population, and to plan and prepare such that each small response mitigates the likelihood of a larger crisis growing out of the current situation. By providing solid foundational materials and cutting-edge online updates, we aim to give all schools a range of resources with which to face emerging challenges.”

Some of the “resources” CMI provides are short (1-2 pages) guides in PDF format posted on its website, such as “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting” (henceforth abbreviated as “Talking With…”) that you can read for yourself. You’ll see that the PDF document does not have a date for its creation. However, when a document is uploaded onto a website, it acquires an Uniform Resource Locater (URL), which is a specific character string that constitutes a reference to an Internet resource.

Think of the URL as the Internet address of a website, or of an article or picture within that website. Or in technical jargon, “Every URL consists of some of the following: the scheme name (commonly called protocol), followed by a colon, two slashes, then, depending on scheme, a server name (exp. http://ftp., http://www., smtp., etc.) followed by a dot (.) then a domain name, a port number, the path of the resource to be fetched or the program to be run, then and an optional fragment identifier.”

For example:

The URL for this blog, Fellowship of the Minds (FOTM), is http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/.
The URL for one of FOTM’s posts this morning, “Cutest kitten, ever,” is http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/cutest-kitten-ever/. Note that this URL has two items that FOTM’s main URL doesn’t have:
The date when the post was published: 2013/01/16 for Jan. 16, 2013;
The title of the post, “Cutest kitten, ever.”

And so it is also with Crisis Management Institute’s online documents. Despite the absence of a date in CMI’s PDF document “Talking with…,” there are other ways to ascertain when “Talking With…” was uploaded to CMI’s website. That date is December 10, 2012, four days before the Sandy Hook massacre. Here’s the evidence:
1. Arlington Red Devils site

The Arlington Red Devils (ARD) is the website of the Arlington Local Schools in Ohio. According to an article on Investor Discussion Board, an alert Internet sleuth posting on the chat site GodLikeForums.com, found a posting on ARD about CMI’s “Talking With…” guide, with a link to the PDF document. Here’s a screenshot the sleuth took of the ARD post. Pay special attention to the two yellow circles I’ve drawn on the top left and bottom right of the screenshot.

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/arlington-red-devils1.png?w=600&h=412

Inside the bottom right yellow circle I drew is the date when the sleuth ↑ accessed the Arlington Red Devils’ website: 1/10/2013 (January 10, 2013).

Inside the top yellow circle I drew is the URL of CMI’s “Talking With…” document with its date of 2012/12/10 (December 10, 2012), which is FOUR days before the Sandy Hook massacre:

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/cmi-talking-with-url1.png?w=600&h=151

Since Jan. 10, however, that Arlington Red Devils page has been scrubbed. If you go to http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-children-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy, you get sent to this page (http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/error) that says “Error 404 – document not found”. Good thing the sleuth had taken a screen shot of the ARD page on January 10, 2013!
2. The URL for “Talking With…” on CMI’s Website

But we don’t have to rely on the now-scrubbed Arlington Red Devils webpage. We can go directly to Crisis Management Institute’s website for its PDF document “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting.” Click here for the document. If CMI scrubs it by the time you try to access the document, I’ve saved the document in FOTM’s media library. Click here: Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-Shooting/

Look at the URL of the document. It shows a date of 2012/10. Here’s a screenshot I just took of CMI’s “Talking With,” showing the URL on top:

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/cmi-talking-with.png?w=600&h=371

Notice the document’s URL on top, and in the bottom right, the date when I took the screen shot: 1/16/2013 (for January 16, 2013).

Here’s an enlargement of the URL for “Talking With…,” showing the 2012/10 date:

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/cmi-talking-with3.png?w=600&h=125

The Spanish language version of the same “Talking With…” document has an URL date of 2012/12 (for Dec. 12, 2012), which is two days before the Sandy Hook massacre.
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One document or webpage bearing a pre-massacre date may be due to a computer glitch. But we now have at least FIVE cases (I know of a 6th, which will be posted tomorrow).

And so, we must now ask ourselves why Crisis Management Institute — like the people who put up the “R.I.P. Victoria Soto” Facebook page, the United Way “Sandy Hook Support Fund,” the Sandy Hook Elementary Victims’ Fund, or the Fundraiser for Families Involved in Tragic Newtown, CT Shootings – somehow knew, days in advance, there would be a massacre in Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012.

Oh, one more thing.

Crisis Management Institute’s director is a woman named Cheri Lovre.
Cheri Lovre is an anti-gun gun-control advocate. Lovre posted an essay, “Talking About Gun Violence,” on a rabidly anti-gun site called Praying the Devil Back to Hell – HERE AND NOW!

Since this post was published yesterday morning, we’ve received many reader comments, some of which by individuals more knowledgeable about computers and the Internet than I am. They point out that CMI’s “Talking With…” PDF document actually was created on December 14, 2012, but for some reason was uploaded to their October 2012 folder (thus, the 2012/10 in its URL). Other commenters maintain that still doesn’t explain why the Arlington Red Devils’ page on the CMI document indeed was published on December 10, 2012.

Most helpful, however, is a comment by reader Peter. He points out that “It is very simple to change the creation date of any document” and provides how that is done. More importantly, Peter states that “To me the most damming evidence is the fact that the google cache shows that there was once a file called ‘talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy’ in the directory ‘www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/‘. There is no doubt that /2012/12/10/ means december 10th 2012. This directory structure is created automatically by wordpress when an authorized author creates a new piece of content such as the news item in question.”

Peter than counsels that a screenshot of the Google cache be taken, in order to preserve the evidence in the event Google erases it. So I went on the Google cache site and took this screenshot, which clearly shows the “Talking With” guide was published on December 10, 2012 — FOUR days before the Sandy Hook massacre:

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/arlington-red-devils-on-cmi-document.jpg?w=600&h=353

To conclude, I stand by my original assertion that Crisis Management Institute had created a PDF guide “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting” on December 10, 2012, four days before the Sandy Hook massacre took place.

EYES WIDE OPEN

11th February 2013, 20:50

3 hour documentary on the shooting. Best I have seen. Very in depth.

SANDY HOOK - The Documentary (2013)
OFFICIAL VIDEO - Part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwIvy1GXRU

SANDY HOOK - The Documentary (2013)
OFFICIAL VIDEO - Part 2 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE5Gpwwrblc&bpctr=1360616707

Mark Howitt takes an investigative look into the events and controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting which happened on December 14th 2012. This documentary explores several aspects of the event and is an attempt to shed some light and provide logical answers to the many questions that remain as to what happened in Newtown. Using rare news and article clips, testimonies, police audio analysis and a journalistic approach, it is quite clear that we are not being told the truth about what really happened. Was there others involved in the crime? Why have authorities and media provided abundant amounts of misleading information, changing the official narrative on countless occasions? These questions and more are looked at in great detail to try and make sense of things and bring closure to one of the biggest conspiracies in modern times.

Topics discussed include identities of multiple suspects, police audio analysis, witness testimonies, media manipulation of facts, the Lanza family, the gun ban issue, intelligence agencies, project longevity, examples of covert operations, crisis actors, living victims, FEMA drills, advanced knowledge of attack, motive of crime, and several other key aspects to this case.

EYES WIDE OPEN

11th February 2013, 21:28

The above doc is a MUST watch for everyone.

Kimberley

11th February 2013, 21:46

The above doc is a MUST watch for everyone.

I for one do not have 3 hours to watch this at this time...could you give us some highlights? I have been following this story and would love to hear some of the highlights...I might be able to watch it on Wednesday...Thank you one and all for your help to me and to others that will not be able to have 3 hours...

Much love!!

Referee

12th February 2013, 07:32

More about the drill an pre planning......

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Earth Angel

13th February 2013, 16:04

wow, look at the length of that arm.....poor kid

dianna

15th February 2013, 11:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clza1XVA0SI

Flash

15th February 2013, 13:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clza1XVA0SI

short and funny video, worth a look, to thanks those guys, with new laws against people talking about Sandy hook, they put their head on the table.

Earth Angel

15th February 2013, 17:33

I posted the picture below on facebook and they removed it with the following reason

You uploaded a photo that violates our Terms of Use, and this photo has been removed. Facebook does not allow photos that attack an individual or group, or that contain nudity, drug use, violence, or other violations of the Terms of Use. These policies are designed to ensure Facebook remains a safe, secure and trusted environment for all users, including the many children who use the site

wow, look at the length of that arm.....poor kid

many children who use the site.......really??? you have to be 18 to have a page, why would many children use the site, and what would offend them about my picture and question??

Tangri

16th February 2013, 21:44

Bump to tread.

People prone to forget and performers rely on it.
Today I received a spam but first time I did not concern as it is one. I want to share with you.

"Overwhelming evidence has surfaced to prove that Sandy Hook is a hoax. For example, the recently released CNN helicopter footage that is supposed to show children escaping from the school is obviously set somewhere else. The "grieving" parents are surprisingly joyful during their interviews. The footage from the early hours of the incident shows a traffic pattern that makes it impossible for emergency vehicles to operate. There are many other points with various degrees of credibility, but anyone doing serious research should find plenty to disprove the "official" story. In spite of this, many people still manage to believe the TV version of the Sandy Hoax drama.

The critics often say that it is crazy to believe that Sandy Hook is a hoax, but this is simply an irrational emotional response. Their main argument is that the media and the government would not make such a big lie and then lie so poorly. This is the exact working principle of the "Big Lie", one of Hitler's techniques. Many people know about this technique and then fall for it anyway. Another common claim is that it's hard to fake that many deaths, but the "victims" could have been easily paid off to live with new identities. Regardless of the facts, sheeple believe what is shown on TV. They are suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome - they've learnt to love Big Brother. Accurate information and logic do not matter to them. Without the means to defend themselves, they are just sheep being led to the slaughter.

The proposed gun control legislation does not improve public safety, but reduces the ability of the people to resist tyranny. High capacity magazines are not necessary to kill unarmed people or commit crime, but are very important for fighting armed minions of a tyrannical government, and deterrring a foreign enemy invasion. Making fighting weapons less available to people reduces their ability to defend themselves. People without the ability to defend themselves are at greater risk than people that can defend themselves.

While the threat of a crazy gunman exists, it pales in comparison to the threat of a murderous government. Murderous governments are not fiction, but historical fact and have emerged virtually everywhere where gun control has been put in place. Even today, millions of political prisoners are being tortured to death in communist countries. People point to the many Western nations that have gun control but no murderous governments as examples, but these governments know that if they were to start killing their own people, Americans would step in. America is the last bastion of freedom on the planet and that is why America is under sustained attack.

The biggest threat to America today comes from within. That threat is traitors in high positions. These traitors work covertly and watch their actions carefully lest they become exposed in a manner that removes the doubt of the public, most of whom cannot believe that such massive treason can take place in our society. They have chosen the ideal cover for their goals of subverting America - the guise of public servants. Using their positions of power, they have gradually eroded our freedoms and rights to further increase their own power. America is now on the brink of dictatorship, where this small group of traitors can have unlimited control of the nation.

The ignorance of the public makes tyranny possible. Many people still believe the Sandy Hoax made for TV drama/story. This amazing feat of ignorance can only be explained by a mental disorder. This type of mass psychosis is one of the conditions necessary for a brutal regime to come to power with popular support. This is the type of mass psychosis that has fueled the public support of murderous dictators like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. This type of mass psychosis is now prevalent in America and the traitors know it. It is no surprise that they are now seeking to disarm the rest of us, so that we cannot resist their planned tyranny.

Gun control legislation is in direct violation of the Constitution that the legislators have sworn an oath to uphold. The Constitution recognizes and protects the right of the People to own firearms and to use them for self-defense. These are not privileges granted by the Constitution, they are God-given rights that are recognized and protected under the Constitution. They are rights that every legislator has sworn an oath to protect, regardless of religion. Legislation that violates the Constitution is an act of treason. Planning such legislation is planning to commit treason. Feindstein is one of the people planning this, but she is not alone. Feindstein herself has suspicious links to communist China. With leaders like this, it is not surprising that China's economy bloomed while California's withered. Her co-conspirators may have similar alternative allegiances. If they can disarm the people and rewrite the Constitution, there will be nothing to stop them from making pol!
icies to imprison people opposed to them, or to use their positions of power for profit at the expense of the nation. They are already filthy rich from having done that.

Some people say that the weapons available to the people are not sufficient to protect freedom from tyranny, because the state has much more powerful weapons. There is truth to this criticism and this is because the state has been gradually eroding self-defense rights of the people for some time now. Under the Constitution the people should be able to possess the same weapons as the government, without restrictions. That includes fully-automatic weapons. Needing a permit for concealed carry is already an infringement of the Second Amendment. At the same time, the state has been arming itself to the teeth, including armored vehicles and drones. These weapons are a threat to our freedom and our lives. That money should be used to build our communities, instead of holding us hostage. The legislation that infringes on our rights needs to be removed and our rights must be restored and vigilantly guarded."

Tangri

16th February 2013, 22:08

SilentFeathers

20th February 2013, 12:17

Surprised I missed this "coincidence" but not surprised at the same time....

The Second Most Powerful Gun Lobby Is in Newtown, Connecticut

Just across the highway from Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in a stately white building with an American flag flying out front, is the headquarters of the United States’ premiere industry association for gun retailers.

It’s not the consumer-focused National Rifle Association. The National Shooting Sports Foundation has kept a lower profile over the years, but is likely the second-most-powerful force for firearms use in the country.

Influential Gun Lobbying Group Located Just Miles From Newtown Massacre Site
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/18/influential-gun-lobbying-group-located-just-3-miles-from-site-of-newtown-massacre/

EYES WIDE OPEN

20th February 2013, 16:17

I just found this.

http://monroerealty.idxre.com/idx/AgentBio.cfm?cid=5114&aid=17307

Thats gene rosen is it not? I am undecided.

Edit. seems others have already spotted this. What does everyone think?

Earth Angel

22nd February 2013, 21:06

Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates

The Newtown, Connecticut Town Clerk is seeking to deny newspapers from viewing public record death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, according to the Newtown Bee.
The Clerk maintains that access to vital records such as death and marriage certificates should be limited to immediate family members or their representatives, and has undertaken to change present law.

The New York Post, the Connecticut Post, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and other media have put forth requests for official death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, the Newton Bee report says. Newtown Town Clerk Debbie Aurelia says she is working with State Representatives Dan Carter, Mitch Bolinsky, and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft state legislation:
""that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates.""

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343981#ixzz2LfFVDkVi

Gardener

22nd February 2013, 21:21

Fred Steeves

22nd February 2013, 21:45

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343981#ixzz2LfFVDkVi

From the article Earth Angel posted:

“There isn’t anything in a death certificate that is going to hurt the deceased...it’s not like an autopsy report. It’s been public for centuries. It’s not going to invade anyone’s privacy.’’

This is so obviously true. Anyone who has had the death of a close loved one, knows that those things are standard fare. When you're wrapping up their affairs, you find yourself practically passing them out like business cards to get matters legally resolved. And yes, they are very basic.

Also, my wife is a whiz at tracking down our family ancesters. If she wants to find you bad enough, she'll find you. (LOL) Do you know what two of her main tools are? Ordering death and marriage certificates, it's very routine.

Kimberley

22nd February 2013, 21:49

Fred maybe your wife could order some death certificates from Newtown for us....wink wink...

SilentFeathers

22nd February 2013, 21:49

It is extrememly hard to believe anyone died in this event, there is no proof, the alleged event is a conspiricy theory.

Unless of course one of the 'victims' is still alive and can blow the 'adam lanza' lone gunman theory.

James Holmes "allegedly" blasted away in the movie theater and killed 12 and wounded about 70?.....many survived with scars etc and many many people SAW what happened.

Sandy Hook, not ONE PERSON wounded and lived to tell the story. The school nurse is about the only eyewitness to actually SEE SOMEONE, but her testimony is questionable to say the least.....

NO WITNESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on now folks! no witnesses???????????

No one's seen Adam Lanza since about 2009, not even his brother!?!?! no one has come forward claiming they knew Adam after 2009???? WTF????

Not one photo of a body being carried out the school or one photo of a "bullet hole" ANYWHERE!

They completely close the school and seal it from public view after the shooting????? huh????

nothing nothing nothing.....just a bunch of people who VERY WELL COULD be actors stating things AFTER THE FACT!

This is the most obvious "staged event" that I have seen since 911, specifically the demo of building 7.

This thread is loaded with more evidence showing this event most likely didn't really happen, at least like they are claiming it did.

It sure got the country more divided though didn't it?????

Gun control is actually more of a topic to divide people than abortion is, or just about anything else is IMO.....

Earth Angel

22nd February 2013, 22:31

the trolls are out in full swing on the Sandy Hook hoax pages on facebook.......they seem to think this situation has extenuating circumstances....as if people haven't been shot or children haven't been brutally murdered before.......other than the fact that it might be easier to change the law than to create a load of fake death certificates I don't understand why anyone thinks this change is necessary

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343981#ixzz2LfFVDkVi

From the article Earth Angel posted:

“There isn’t anything in a death certificate that is going to hurt the deceased...it’s not like an autopsy report. It’s been public for centuries. It’s not going to invade anyone’s privacy.’’

This is so obviously true. Anyone who has had the death of a close loved one, knows that those things are standard fare. When you're wrapping up their affairs, you find yourself practically passing them out like business cards to get matters legally resolved. And yes, they are very basic.

Also, my wife is a whiz at tracking down our family ancesters. If she wants to find you bad enough, she'll find you. (LOL) Do you know what two of her main tools are? Ordering death and marriage certificates, it's very routine.

aquarian_monk

25th February 2013, 19:08

As terrible a tragedy as this is. There is always something going on in the shadows. Much like 9/11. It was a perfectly orchestrated and executed plan that caused the US to go against an invisible enemy and incite the entire Muslim world against us.

The forces that be are strong and unfortunately smart. The search for truth is really all we have left in my opinion. Most people won't even go that far any more to ask questions. Good truth seekers like those on this forum are few and far between, these days.

SilentFeathers

26th February 2013, 21:10

Project Sandy Hook Explained

Brilliant video by Max Igan - Surviving the Matrix - January 18th, 2013

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sheme

26th February 2013, 22:22

Is this a sick joke do you think?

Found this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCjgnf1hNjc

Earth Angel

26th February 2013, 22:41

Sandy Hook Facebook pages to be taken down.......they are talking about tribute pages here but I know I have had pictures taken down off the Sandy Hook Hoax fb page

The obvious offense would be people using these pages as scams to cheat people out of their hard earned cash. But, shockingly some of the pages have had derogatory posts that have been abusive to the victims and their families.

Some posts went as far as stating that the shootings were staged and that slain teacher Victoria Soto and others were simply actors. You can only imagine how Soto’s family feels about this.

Give me a break...the trolls are out in full on this one ...the views are in the thousands on the hoax facebook page yet the actual people who have 'Liked' the page is about 700......why, because you are immediately attacked for questioning anything about this story and people are afraid .... what a state of affairs

http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-facebook-pages-to-be-shut-down-abusive-to-victims-and-fraud-issues

Referee

17th March 2013, 11:20

For those interested the Map of the school..

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SilentFeathers

18th March 2013, 22:37

After all the lies and ridiculous claims, we are actually suppose to believe this one too?

]Lupica: Morbid find suggests murder-obsessed gunman Adam Lanza plotted Newtown, Conn.'s Sandy Hook massacre for years

Law enforcement reportedly discovers a sickeningly thorough 7-foot-long, 4-foot-wide spreadsheet with names, body counts and weapons from previous mass murders and even attempted killings. 'It sounded like a doctoral thesis, that was the quality of the research,' an anonymous law enforcement veteran said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lupica-lanza-plotted-massacre-years-article-1.1291408
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Akasha

19th March 2013, 20:30

Is this a sick joke do you think?

Found this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCjgnf1hNjc

No. I can confirm that I scoured the crisisactors.org site without hinderance or the need to register and sign in when the Crisis Actors aspect of the Sandy Hook story broke.

The part at the end of the video which referenced Columbine was intriguing. I hate to bring up the name again due to many of his ludicrous and obviously untrue claims/comparisons, which imo could well be a survival technique, but Ed Chiarini alleged that Columbine was a drill/hoax quite some time ago.

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I'm not endorsing his theories. I'm simply highlighting the fact that he called hoax on Columbine almost a year ago according to the publishing dates of the above videos.

Earth Angel

21st March 2013, 14:46

from a facebook page called Truth Serum
(A) SANDY HOOK "VICTIMS" FINALLY EXPOSED AS THE CHILD ACTORS USED IN JILL GREENBERG'S CONTROVERTIAL 2006 PHOTO ART EXHIBITS "END TIMES" AND "BABY, DON'T CRY".

In these exhibitis Gill Greenberg came under fire for having the parents of these young child actors do cruel things to make these child actors cry in order to get the pre-photoshopped facial expressions. In the exhibits the child actors were given code names rather than their real names. These same exact children ALL turned out to be the alleged Sandy Hook victims 6 years later.

Under Greenberg's 2006 portrait of AIDAN LICATA read "Hero". Aidan Licata is the "hero" of Sandy Hook who allegedly ran his fellow students right past Adam Lanza, while he was standing and blocking the door, even holding the door for his fellow students, while Adam made no attempt to stop or shoot them.

Under Greenberg's 2006 portrait of EMILIE PARKER reads "Cover Up" and "You will know her name".

Under Greenberg's 2006 portrait of NOAH POZNER reads "Angry Country".

Under Greenberg's 2006 portrait of CATHERINE HUBBARD reads "Nucular". It should be noted that L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology made false claims that he invented the atomic bomb. Who is Catherine Hubbard really?

Under Greenberg's 2006 portrait of LILLY GAUBERT reads "Misinformation". It should be noted that the news said Lilly Gaubert was really named ALLISON WYATT. When alternative media caught this, Lilly Gaubert's mother said someone had used her daugther's picture by mistake as Allison Wyatt. There is no Allison Wyatt. Only Lilly.

So WHO IS JILL GREENBERG AND WHY DOES SHE HAVE A PHOTO EXHIBIT 6 YEARS EARLIER WITH THE SANDY HOOK VICTIMS ALL WITH CODE NAMES THAT EXACTLY MATCH THEIR ROLES IN AN ALLEGED TRAGEDY 6 YEARS LATER?

Let's take a look at her regular clients: Philip Morris, Microsoft, Polaroid, Dreamworks, Sony Pictures, Paramount Pictures, MGM, Disney, Fox, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Smirnoff, MTV, Warner Bros., Sony Music, and Atlantic Records. Her photos have appeared on the covers of Time, Newsweek, Wired, Fast Company, Entertainment Weekly and numerous other publications.[1] Celebrities and CEOs who have used her head shots and portraits include Clint Eastwood, Will Smith, Glenn Close, Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Jenkins. ahbd46Q8r_g

ThePythonicCow

21st March 2013, 20:06

Akasha

21st March 2013, 20:08

In the following video, links are made between several of the Sandy Hook characters and corporations such as SERCO and EMC. Links are also made, as the title suggests, between the Sandy Hook event and Rome and Israel. The presenter appears confused regarding some of the articles he is referencing but the video still has some unique nuggets within it.

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Part 2 is below:

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SilentFeathers

22nd March 2013, 13:22

Robbie Parker back in the news: Meets with Peter Lanza, father of the shooter (alleged shooter).
Includes video of news interview

Adam Lanza's father helping provide answers for parents of Newtown victim
By HILARY LEWIS
Last Updated: 9:04 AM, March 22, 2013

http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2013/03/22/news/web_photos/16156_137979293021187_24554965_n082427--525x400.jpg

Alissa and Robbie Parker, whose 6-year-old daughter Emilie was among those killed in Adam Lanza's shooting spree, met with Lanza's father, Peter, for more than an hour on January 23, the couple revealed on "CBS This Morning."

Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/peter_lanza_TAtHXqAhYWQma3nae0JkFI

ADDED:

Another strange coincidence....

If you reverse this guys first names Neil, it's "Lie'n"

If you split his last name Heslin and add an E after the i , it's "Hes lie n"

Neil Heslin, the father of Jesse Lewis, 6, who was killed along with his classmates by Adam Lanza with a Bushmaster AR-15 semiautomatic, was one of two parents who addressed reporters at a press conference in New York City with Vice President Joe Biden and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

“I’m really ashamed to see that Congress doesn’t have the guts to stand up and make a change and put a ban on these type of weapons and (enact) universal background checks and address the mental health issues we have in this country,” Heslin said.

Heslin has been one of the most vocal and active family members of the Newtown victims, as he lobbies lawmakers in Washington, D.C., and Connecticut for a ban on assault weapons and a reduction on magazines to 10 bullets.
Source: http://www.countytimes.com/articles/2013/03/21/news/doc514ba3f4a4305405997128.txt

Akasha

22nd March 2013, 22:27

Robbie Parker back in the news: Meets with Peter Lanza, father of the shooter (alleged shooter).
Includes video of news interview

I couldn't find any photos or footage of this meeting. It's certainly a good way of resurrecting a fading meme in the eyes of the American public though even if there is zero evidence for it actually taking place.

The most likely meeting between Robbie Parker and Peter Lanza would be in the board room of some multi-national corporation, methinks.

Slorri

23rd March 2013, 08:06

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SilentFeathers

25th March 2013, 15:13

Really? Quite amazing a 6 yr old little girl is so educated and aware of baseball player contract status and had to "console" her father about a new player "contract".

Personally, I don't believe this crap either...

The night before she died in the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting, 6-year-old Emilie Parker consoled her father over the Los Angeles Angels' signing of Josh Hamilton, one Rangers fan to another.

In a text message read by his brother at a fundraiser in January for the shooting victims, Robbie Parker recalled how, after he and his daughter heard of Hamilton's departure as a free agent, she suggested that the family go out to dinner to cheer him up.

Father of Sandy Hook victim will throw out first pitch at Rangers' home opener
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/03/22/4723245/father-of-sandy-hook-victim-will.html#storylink=cpy

Prodigal Son

2nd April 2013, 13:25

Sorry if someone has already posted this....

I just came across this deleted thread preserved in this google cache page (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RLE3A4G2o5cJ:www.unforumzed.com/showthread.php?3417-Obama-use-school-shooting-to-disarm-America%20&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a) while scouring the "Medical Type Says Sandy Hook is Total BS" thread on godlike productions... This poster named 'kathaksung" nailed Sandy Hook on December 17, 2010, saying.....

Obama use school shooting to disarm America

In approximate 2 years from today there will be mass school shooting in Connecticut. A lone gunman will kill many children. That's a trick of propaganda. Step by step, they make it a totalitarian country.

They have a false flag attack on December 2012 to justify their war on 2nd Amendment. The responsible gunowner is wronged as terrorist. The real mastermind of the shootings grins at the soap opera they directed. They treat you like fools. Do not have a logic confuse.

She was "off" by THREE DAYS :wizard:

crosby

2nd April 2013, 18:10

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/02/17567999-georgia-town-passes-law-requiring-citizens-to-own-guns-and-ammo?lite&google_editors_picks=true

i am beginning to see small articles like this one, where council members are pushing the towns citizens to own guns and ammunition. are they reacting to the fear of civil war or do they know something that the general public isn't aware of?

By Erin McClam, Staff Writer, NBC News

"A Georgia town has passed a law requiring its citizens to own a gun and ammunition — a measure one councilman says is similar to putting a security sign in your front yard to deter criminals.

Follow @NBCNewsUS

The ordinance in the town of Nelson, population 1,300, contains no penalties, has exemptions for felons and the mentally ill and allows anyone to opt out. Town leaders said they wanted to make a point about gun rights.

The law requires the head of every household to own a gun and ammo to “provide for the emergency management of the city” and “provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants.”

regards, corson

turiya

2nd April 2013, 19:34

Another member sent me this link (in a private message) to a youtube showing MAN-MADE CLOUD COVER being purposely laid over Sandy Hook on the morning of that event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZoiCuBbj8

Published on Mar 19, 2013

This image was Taken at 10:10 am on Dec 14th 2012 by the Tera Satellite directly over Sandy Hook. CT. This shows trails that were sprayed hours before this image was taken. Ive gone through over 700 daily pics above Sandy Hook and the 14th of dec is the only day these trails are here. Ive checked the Commercial airline daily flight paths. These trails are nowhere close to normal daily air traffic paths and the time this picture was taken - 10:10 am - reveals planes not on any commercial flight paths. These trails were made by non-commercial airplanes. The time stamp on the pic proves this when compared to the flight paths of that day at that time. Non-Commercial airlines with clearance for an operation of this size = Government. This proves prior knowledge of the event and who was behind it.

turiya

Slorri

3rd April 2013, 08:53

Prodigal Son

3rd April 2013, 13:06

It's not possible to make heads or tails of that one, since the administrators there claims they staged it and changed the date of that post, but still they harass the poster.
I had read that too, and I don't believe it. As you mentioned, it's the responses to the post that cement it for me.

They really wouldn't have to do much damage control if it wasn't for the fact that the Sandy Hook story turned out to have so many holes in it, they could just say she was psychic. But it was her exposing of the reasoning for the hoax and what the results would be that is so incriminating to our wonderful Nazi government.

Referee

3rd April 2013, 22:12

IMO some good work here time stamps on photos impossible the focus is on EXIF data. Are there any avalonians familiar with this data?

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donk

3rd April 2013, 23:54

I dunno, maybe I'm biased cuz I'm such a South Park fan, but Matt Stone & Trey Parker didnt look that much like the Columbine boys to me...

Especially in one of the shots I think he mixed up they were supposed to be.

turiya

9th April 2013, 19:31

Parents File Appeal Against Connecticut Medical Examiner’s Refusal to Release Adam Lanza Toxicology Results
By Kelly Patricia O’Meara
April 5, 2013

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“Why Adam Lanza did this, and if there is a contributing factor that is apparent from an assessment of his autopsy and prescription drug history, it is important to enable we – the public – and in particular AbleChild, an organization that interacts with caregivers, parents and legislators on issues relating to parental rights, to discover the truth.” Jonathan Emord, Attorney

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Despite a formal request from AbleChild, a Parent’s Rights organization, citing numerous state and federal laws supporting the release of Adam Lanza’s toxicology results and medical records (http://www.cchrint.org/pdfs/medical-examiner-request-for-lanza-toxicology-and-autopsy-records.pdf), Connecticut Medical Examiner, H. Wayne Carver, M.D., has arbitrarily denied the request.

The M.E.’s decision to withhold the information is at odds with Connecticut law, the State’s Constitution, federal law and the United States Constitution. In response, AbleChild (http://ablechild.org/) has filed an appeal with the State’s Freedom of Information Commission (FOIC) for the release of the records and, if necessary, is prepared to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
more at the link: http://www.cchrint.org/2013/04/05/parents-file-appeal-against-connecticut-medical-examiners-refusal-to-release-adam-lanza-toxicology-results/

turiya

Related Post:

Was Connecticut Shooter, Adam Lanza, on Psychiatric Drugs? Medical Examiner Snubs Official Request for Toxicology Report (http://www.cchrint.org/2013/03/15/was-connecticut-shooter-adam-lanza-taking-psychiatric-drugs/)

Kimberley

9th April 2013, 19:38

Thank you Turia! That is very interesting for sure! :hug:

Referee

9th April 2013, 19:52

ThePythonicCow

9th April 2013, 20:01

A Picasso Photo Album found online has lead to perhaps as many as 35 or so actors being Identified. Although this info is circumstantial I am leaning more and more in this direction.

Kimberly and Turiya IMO the lawsuit story is a ruse to play up the pharmaceuticals angle imo disinfo. Have a look at this..... Remember almost all came out of the same Sexton/Greenberg/Rockefeller photo album.......

As I wrote in Post #643 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53271-The-Sandy-Hook-Massacre--the-MAJOR-DISCREPANCIES-LIST&p=651722&viewfull=1#post651722), above, of another such video:

This video reminded me of Ed Chiarini, of WellAware1.com fame, aka DallasGoldBug on Youtube, who has posted much work over the years, finding various people, especially members of a Greenberg family, to be the same people (according to what his eyes see) as various participants and victims in recent notorious events.

turiya

9th April 2013, 20:23

Referee wrote:

Kimberly and Turiya IMO the lawsuit story is a ruse to play up the pharmaceuticals angle imo disinfo. Have a look at this..... Remember almost all came out of the same Sexton/Greenberg/Rockefeller photo album.......

The information regarding AbleChild, a parents' rights organization, and their seeking the release of records held by Connecticut Medical Examiner Wayne Carver, came by way of Jonathan Emord, a well established civil rights & Constitutional attorney. I heard about this from his latest Jeff Rense interview that was broadcast last night.
Jonathan Emord Rense audio interview: http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/qf7w7b88xh/rense.20130408.1of3.mp3
Jonathan Emord Website: http://www.emord.com/

I am also in agreement with Paul's take on the above video that you posted.

best regards... turiya

Referee

9th April 2013, 22:19

turiya

10th April 2013, 04:34

Referee

10th April 2013, 06:50

One small detail to add Dr. Steve Pieczenik's about face on SH thread here........... Concerning the Pharma angle....
Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57747-The-Sandy-Hook-Cocktail-Dr-Pieczenik)

I defer to the post I left on that thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57747-The-Sandy-Hook-Cocktail-Dr-Pieczenik&p=659852&viewfull=1#post659852

turiya :cool:

Okay I rarely take a strong position however in my gut I am sure this whole thing was nothing more than a movie set drugs have nothing to do with SH! It was fake from start to finish. Where are the bodies Adam may have died the day before. No internet activity for 2 years? Why were police guarding the parents? The medical examiner is fake! You can sue and all you will get is a fake report to blame a drug misdirection and disinfo! mitigate deflect and redirect! In fact this was all most likely built in to redirect if the stuff hit the fan imo it has!

Referee

10th April 2013, 22:34

Idaho Picker............

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dianna

12th April 2013, 13:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp0MweLwrNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-QWVxTwrk

Hervé

18th April 2013, 23:47

Summary of allegedly verified bollocks:

Sandy Hook Orchestrated by Obama WH?
April 17, 2013

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"The powers in total control of this event were "Washington, D.C." and the "Justice Department." Noted [veteran news reporter for Hartford Courant,] David Owens, 'local police of Newtown and State Police' are not responsible for any discrepancies or errors in the reporting. That all came from federal sources (direct communication). That means that the entire event was orchestrated by the Obama White House."

(Editor's Note: I am not in a position to verify these claims. However this scenario seems plausible.)

Sandy Hook - What is Known for Sure
Source: www.nodisinfo.com (http://nodisinfo.com/Home/sandy-hook-what-we-know-for-sure/)

The following is a summary of what is definitively known regarding Sandy Hook. In other words, this is information that is incontestable. All that is said, here, is easy to prove. Let anyone prove it wrong. Regardless, these facts will prove that Sandy Hook was a fraud perpetrated by elements hostile to the American people.

One purpose of this fraud or scam is to orchestrate new laws for gun control and confiscation. Other reasons are to create increased control and oppression over the American people. The irrefutable facts about Sandy Hook or what might more appropriately be called the Sandy Hook Hoax are as follows:

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The common pictures of Adam Lanza, where the whites of his eyes are showing, are not real. Those pictures have been altered through Photoshop. The evidence for this is found on the Website, nodisinfo.com (http://nodisinfo.com/). The proof for this is irrefutable. His face was altered to make him appear menacing.

Gene Rosen is an actor known to play out skits about children. Rosen was caught practicing his lines well before the time of the claim for a shooting. He was the man who said he took six children into protection in his house in the midst of the crisis. This is not true. He can be seen practicing these very lines via overhead camera (via helicopter) in the morning of Dec. 14 sometime before 10:00 a.m. He can also be seen interacting with a TV producer at this time. Also, as has been confirmed by a direct communication, Rosen is a producer on local community TV, CTV. Furthermore, while Rosen was being interviewed by CBS a solar-powered sign could be seen behind him, ordering all actors to "sign in" before entering the secure area.

Chris and Lynn McDonnell, the supposed parents of the deceased Grace McDonnell, are not real parents and instead are actors. They can be found on network film and also via overhead camera near the firehouse performing their acting skits, often with TV producers in close proximity. This is also indisputable, and there are several examples where they can be seen acting out fake grief, as well as shock, while also being instructed by these producers. Some of the instructions are audible, including one command to start/conclude the act, the producer saying, "OK."

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Grace McDonnell, who was supposed to have died in Sandy Hook, is not a real child. Instead, she is a pure and undeniable creation of Photoshop, the proof of which is found on nodisinfo.com (http://nodisinfo.com/). There was/is no person by this name living in the Newtown/Sandy Hook area or, in fact, anywhere in Connecticut. Thus, the claim that this child died in a school-yard massacre is a categorical lie, simply due to the fact that such a person doesn't exist.

Donna Soto is not a grieving mother of the purportedly dead teacher, Victoria Soto. Instead, she is an employee of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Soto, a paid actor, was caught in the act via news footage, where she was filmed standing next to the side of the firehouse on Dec. 14 sometime before 3:00 p.m. with a taxpayer-supplied DHS water bottle in her sweatshirt, checking her text messages. Prior to this she was seen acting out grief with purported son Carlos Mathew Soto, where she was surrounded by two TV producers. The fact that these were TV producer is beyond doubt and has been confirmed by news film.
(l.Vicki. Pics of Donna nowhere to be found)

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A TV producer, name unknown, who was assisting Donna Soto in her fabricated grieving act, was caught on film faking grief herself near the corner of the firehouse, in the mid-afternoon, exact time unknown. The fact that she is Soto's TV handler is proven by the clothing she wore and her style of purse in her possession when she was instructing Soto.

Robbie Parker, the supposed father of a murdered girl, Emilie Parker, was caught smiling in glee just before doing his CNN interview, while also asking if he should read from the script or speak spontaneously. Just prior to his interview Parker was seen "getting into character" by taking bizarre-appearing deep breaths and dramatically changing his facial expression. During this time instructors and handlers can be seen instructing and guiding him. A photo is available showing Parker holding in his hands the script.

The deceased school principal Dawn Hochsprung, below, springs back to life in Boston.

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Dawn Hochsprung called the Newtown Bee on Dec. 14, about 10:00 or so a.m., saying that there was a shooting at the school. The official reports have her dead by that time and the shooting already over. When questioned about this, the Bee originally confirmed that this call was made by Hochsprung, saying, essentially, "Well, we know her."

Krista and Rich Rekos were caught posing before cameras early during the day on Dec. 14, like the McDonnells, right at the corner of the firehouse. When before the camera, Krista Rekos suddenly put on a display, acting as if she was in shock.

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A school psychologist by the name of Mary Sherlach does not exist as an actual employee at Sandy Hook Elementary School. There is no licence for such a person and instead, suspiciously, her licence was issued only in 2013. The woman pictured as Mary Sherlach has been identified as Jane Vogel Brickell and, thus, Mary Sherlach is an alias. Ms. Brickell has been determined to be alive and well, living in New York. Moreover, this individual is not disputing this finding, because she knows it to be true.

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In two different CNN interviews actual actors using aliases from an entirely different state were uncovered. Posing as Nick and Laura Phelps, the real names for these actors are Richard Sexton and Jennifer Greenberg-Sexton, who are residents of Florida. Their role was to act as begrieved friends of Dawn Hochsprung, while also claiming to be parents of Sandy Hook grade-schoolers. In real life these individuals are not parents of any Sandy Hook children. In fact, their children live in Florida and were formerly students of Gotha High School. In other words, the people posing as the Phelps' do not have grade-school-aged children, their daughters being in their teens. Thus, everything that these two actors said on CNN was a lie.

The oft-seen picture of children being led out of the school by an official-looking woman in a blue jacket is not from Dec. 14, 2012. Rather, it is from Oct. 17, 2012, a fact which has now been fully confirmed. So, when it was said by the media that "A horrific shooting Friday morning at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown," while this is combined with the picture, this is an attempt to scare and intimidate people into believing in the official story by creating the impression of frightened children being led out of the school, when this really never occurred.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and other elements of the federal government were swarming all over the Sandy Hook region and were fully in place before the time of the acclaimed shooting. DHS agents were seen driving their black antennae-equipped vehicles by precise eyewitnesses as early as 8:30 a.m., well before the time published for any attack. The black and other dark-colored government vehicles were seen racing about with serious-looking men inside by local Sandy Hook residents.

According to veteran news reporter for criminal events, David Owens, the entire operation of Sandy Hook was controlled from the beginning, early on Friday morning. The powers in total control of this event were "Washington, D.C." and the "Justice Department." Noted Owens, 'local police of Newtown and State Police' are not responsible for any discrepancies or errors in the reporting. That all came from federal sources (direct communication). That means that the entire event was orchestrated by the Obama White House.

A first installment in a series. Idea thanks to a nodisinfo.com (http://nodisinfo.com/) reader. She has advised people to hand this simple sheet out and also post it, where appropriate.

- See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2013/04/sandy-orchestrated-by-obama-wh.html#sthash.qmBiGoKf.dpuf

Earth Angel

14th June 2013, 15:09

very interesting video here, just 2 minutes.......this woman spoke with three different official agencies and nobody knows who cleaned up the blood......this would have been done by a company experienced in bio-hazard and crime scene clean up and yet they seemed totally caught off guard when she asked the question WHAT COMPANY WAS USED TO CLEAN UP THE BLOOD FROM 26 PEOPLE SHOT TO DEATH???
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Kindred

12th February 2014, 03:05

Here's a just released interview (Feb. 11) with a school safety expert, ex-military, ex-state trooper, and former educator giving an excellent analysis of the 'Sandy Hook' event.

"Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn’t believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he’s looking for some answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off."

audio of interview (43 min): http://americanfreepress.net/podcast/SandyHookWolfgangHalbig128.mp3

Article on American Free Press: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503

I, for one, wish only for Truth to prevail...

In Unity, Peace and Love

Operator

12th February 2014, 03:10

Here's another interview from Red Ice Radio (partly) about Sandy Hook:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/02/RIR-140205.php

Cidersomerset

14th February 2014, 16:00

This may have been posted under another title, but interesting interview from
Wolfgang W. Halbig about being visited at home and told to back off from asking
for freedom of information about , what he thinks is a false flag op. There are
other indepth threads on this subject,but Wolfgang has many questions he cannot
get answers for, and as a former state trooper, and expert witness at other school
shooting cases including Columbine , he smells a rat.

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School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook

Friday 14th February 2014 at 03:57 By David Icke

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Published on 14 Feb 2014

(FEDERALJACK) Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn't believe anyone was killed at Sandy
Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he's looking for some
answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police
investigators telling him to back off.

Mr. Halbig isn't your average "conspiracy theorist." He's worked in public education
as a teacher, dean, assistant principal, principal of an alternative school and as the
Director for School Safety and Security for the Seminole County Public Schools, a
school district of approximately 65,000 students.

A former Florida State Trooper and United States Customs Inspector, Mr. Halbig
was invited by the U.S. Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police
officers, school superintendents and school principals. He travels the country
providing presentations and keynotes to a variety of school board associations and
conferences and is a nationally-recognized school safety and security expert and
consultant, who has provided safety training and school assessments for more than
4,000 school districts nationwide.

Dave Gahary spoke with Wolfgang about why he doesn't believe the official story of
the Sandy Hook Elementary School event, in this interesting interview.

Full article with more links to Sandy Hook info: http://www.federaljack.com/school-saf...

Atlas

14th February 2014, 17:03

[...]
"Wolfgang W. Halbig doesn’t believe anyone was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, and he’s looking for some answers. So many answers, in fact, that he was paid a visit by some police investigators telling him to back off."

audio of interview (43 min): http://americanfreepress.net/podcast/SandyHookWolfgangHalbig128.mp3

Article on American Free Press: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503
[...]

[...]
The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast

Friday, January 24, 2014
Wolfgang Halbig / Sofia Smallstorm
A school security expert addresses Sandy Hook

http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-sandy%20hoax%20debate%20post%20mortem.mp3

From: Wolfgang Halbig
To: Vance and Kehoe
January 22, 2014
Subject: Why would one of you send Homicide Detectives to my home and Threaten me with Felony Arrest by CT State Police?

[Lieutenant J. Paul] Vance and [Newtown Police Chief Michael] Kehoe;

I do not know which one you of you had the idea that by having the Lake County, Florida Sheriffs Homicide Detectives show up at my house and threatened me with Felony arrest by the CT State Police if I did not stop asking questions about Sandy Hook Shooting.

You want me to stop asking questions in light of the fact that you both have yet to respond to any of my Connecticut Freedom of Information Act requests for the past 9 months, you both should be arrested for failing to comply with Connecticut State Laws.

I have served honorably in the Military during Vietnam, I served as a Florida State Trooper in Miami, Florida. I worked as United States Customs Inspector at both International Airports and Seaports.

I graduated at the top of my class at the Florida Highway Patrol Academy and that is why my class elected me as their class president to speak at our graduation.

What you two are doing is just unbelievable and I cannot believe that the law enforcement community across the United States is accepting the Danbury State Attorney report without the FBI Classified Investigative information included.What in the world needs to be Classified by the FBI?

You stated that there was just one suspect and he shot himself in the classroom. Is that correct?
He shot 20 children and six school staff members. Is that correct?
He fired 153 rounds using both handguns and a .223 Bushmaster rifle as you stated. Is that correct?
He shot his way through the front glass door. Is that correct?
He parked his black Honda civic in the front parent drop off area with all four car doors wide open as Barbara Sibley a parent witness observed. Is that correct?
He left a 12 gauge Ithaca shotgun in the front seat of the black Honda Civic. Is that correct?
He took approximately 11 minutes inside the school to kill 20 children and 6 school staff members. Is that correct?

So what has to be CLASSIFIED BY THE FBI? HERE ARE THE WHY’S:

Why NO Life Star Trauma Helicopter on Dec 14, 2012 since you use them in every active shooter drill when the news media covers your stories. WHY?

Why did you not allow the Paramedics and EMT’S inside the school after 11 minutes?

Who was the person who declared all 20 children and six school staff members legally dead? Who?

Why did it take over an hour to transport someone to the hospital?

Why do you have a 50 to 60 year old women being transported by ambulance as Natalie Hammond when Natalie Hammond is only 40 years old? Why pretend?

Why have 26 small Christmas trees behind the Sandy Hook Volunteer fire house on Dec 14, 2012 and then decorate them on Dec 15, 2012 after the shooting? Why?

Why have a Lieutenant of the Newtown Police Department with 24 years not leave his off duty job where he is controlling traffic at a construction work site until two hours after the shooting started? This is the best one of all. Why?

Why have a Licensed Registered Nurse who works at Sandy Hook Elementary School that Nancy Lan[z]a the mother of Adam Lan[z]a is a great and wonderful Kindergarten teacher at her school? Why does she lie on National News?

Why have a Police Chief State in the Newspaper article that his Lt. is not a first responder? Does anyone belief that for one-second especially when you have two Ct State troopers escorting a prisoner to the Danbury courthouse when hearing the active shooter call and respond to Sandy Hook. Why them and not the Lieutenant?

We have all these great police investigators and NO one questions the actions of December 14, 2012.You both then did a great job and deserve an Oscar at the Oscars in Hollywood. Do not send anymore detectives to my home.Please answer my questions if you can.

Thanks

Wolfgang W Halbig

*Formerly the Executive Director of the National Institute for School and Workplace Safety, Wolfgang Halbig has recently formed a new safety and security company, Children’s Safety Institute. Prior to founding NISWS, Mr. Halbig worked in public education as a teacher, dean, and assistant principal, principal, principal of an alternative school and as the Director for School Safety and Security of the Seminole County Public Schools, a school district of approximately 65,000 students.

Mr. Halbig also has law enforcement experience as a former Florida State Trooper in Miami, Florida, and as a United States Customs Inspector. Given his unique background in both law enforcement and education, Mr. Halbig was invited by the United States Department of Justice to train over 3,500 school police officers, school superintendents and school principals.

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He traveled the country by providing presentations and keynotes to a variety of audiences, including the National Education Law Conference, the National School Board Association, the Oklahoma School Board Association, the Illinois School Board Association, the New York State School Board Association and the Florida School Board Association.

A nationally recognized school safety and security expert and consultant, Halbig has provided safety training and school assessments for more than 4,000 school districts nationwide. He has also been featured on Dateline (NBC) and Good Morning America (ABC). He earned his B.S. from Abilene Christian University, Abilene Texas, and his M.S. from Nova University in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Source: http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/25/retired-cop-and-educator-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook-investigation/comment-page-1/

Operator

14th February 2014, 17:11

Yes, great guy! Knows what he's talking about. I heard another (have no link) radio interview with him.
We need more of these kind of people to finally make some progress.

Atlas

14th February 2014, 17:42

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Prof. Jim Fetzer’s January 24, 2014 interview with Wolfgang Halbig and Sofia Smallstorm:

Link: http://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/nicecast-archived-audio-20140124-1701.mp3

(2 hours - 40Mb)

8Adamas8

14th February 2014, 18:42

Selene

14th February 2014, 20:35

happyuk

15th February 2014, 16:08

The only thing I would suggest to this guy is stick to his area of expertise. When he started talking about Lanza having high functioning autism and how all those with ASD have poor motor skills. I have ASD/ADHD and am extremely athletic and shot expert rifleman in USMC boot.

Someone needs to keep tabs on this guy though to make sure tptb don't silence another legitimate person.

If certain very powerful persons wanted him out of the way they would easily have done so by now, surely?

I am thinking more on the lines of what is this guys ultimate purpose in this drama? What is his role and for what purpose is he being used?

jackovesk

16th February 2014, 05:25

:bump:.....:thumb:

jackovesk

19th February 2014, 05:19

Wow. Excellent interview. Halbig is the real deal; he asks excellent, expert questions. Hope he lives long enough to see the results of his efforts.

Five stars:

rEfW9FvLyAg

Go, Halbig!

:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Selene

Hope he lives long enough to see the results of his efforts.
Selene

Update from Prison Planet: February 18, 2014

Was told if he didn’t comply “bad things are going to happen”

School Shooting Expert Threatened Over Sandy Hook Investigation

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The Sandy Hook school shooting was a giant, elaborate hoax and no one really died; that’s the conclusion Wolfgang Halbig, a former educator, US Customs agent and Florida state trooper, has reached after ten months of investigation and multiple disputes with federal, state and school authorities.

Halbig is convinced a deluge of discrepancies prove that the whole scenario was a scripted event.

“..I suspect, in my professional opinion as a consultant and doing this a long, long time, I think it’s a scripted event that took place. I think it was in planning for maybe two, two and a half years,” Halbig said recently in an explosive interview with American Free Press.

“How do I tell people how to make their school safer when we don’t even have the truth about Sandy Hook?” asked a frustrated Halbig. “See, there is a nexus, I do this for a living.”

“They were in plain clothes,” Halbig recalled, describing a visit from Lake County homicide investigators. “They introduced themselves, they showed me their identification, their badges, and they basically said, ‘We need to have a conversation,’ and I said, ‘Well come on in, sit down, make yourselves comfortable,’ and then they read off my resumé. I mean, somehow, they did a lot of homework.. Basically the next thing they said was if I don’t stop, the Connecticut state police were gonna file charges and they recommended that I hire an attorney.”

The retired school principal, however, affirmed he’s in the right. “I said there is no way in the world that I’m gonna hire an attorney, because I’m following the procedures of the Connecticut state Freedom of Information Act. I mean, if anybody ought to be arrested, I said you tell those guys they ought to be arrested for failing to comply by the law of Connecticut.”

He says they also treated him in a threatening manner, stating “if I don’t comply that bad things are going to happen to me.”

“..[T]his crime that was committed is a puzzle and no one can show me the pieces to put together to finish this puzzle. They don’t fit no matter how hard you try.. you and your listeners will not be able to put this puzzle together,” Halbig attested to host Dave Gahary.

Unanswered Questions

School Shooting Expert Threatened Over Sandy Hook Investigation Wolfgang Halbig National school safety consultant Wolfgang Halbig.
For Halbig, there are unanswered questions, lots of them.

For instance, why in the immediate aftermath of the shooting were no medical helicopters summoned?

“Think about it: you have 20 children, 6 staff members who were supposed to have been shot. They’re seriously injured. Where’s the trauma helicopters? Those are the quickest and the best medical services that any child or any school staff member can receive, and no trauma helicopters were ever requested?”

Halbig also called Life Star emergency services, who confirmed they were never summoned that morning. “[T]hey said, ‘Mr. Halbig we were never requested on that morning. We were shocked and surprised, we were ready, we thought we were going to go to Sandy Hook.’ They had helicopters ready to go, but they were never asked.. Here’s my premise.. there wasn’t anybody there to be treated.”

Halbig also questions why EMT and firefighters, who were mere minutes away from the scene, were prevented from entering the school and possibly saving lives, and additionally, he wants to know how, within the first 11 minutes, America was already presented with a death toll.

“Who declared all those 26 people dead within the first 11 minutes? Connecticut law states that only a doctor can declare them dead, legally dead.”

Moreover, Halbig says the FBI’s classification of the school shooting report is something he’s never witnessed in his entire career. “I can tell you [out of] all the shootings, never has an FBI agency ever classified an investigative report on a school shooting.”

More Unanswered Questions

There are also a whole host of peculiarities Halbig is still baffled by.

For example, why was Sandy Hook elementary torn down? Even in the Columbine tragedy, whose crime scene Halbig assisted with and in which he testified as a key witness, the school was cleaned up, but was never torn down.

According to Halbig, no one could tell him which environmental company cleaned up the bloody mess, or who installed the school’s security system, all things his job would require him to know.

He has other pressing questions, such as: Why was there a registered nurse found in the building four hours after the shooting? Why was there a sign flashing “Everyone must sign in?” Why were there port-a-potties on site within three hours? Why were children turned around by officers and sent back into rooms supposedly littered with dead bodies? How did someone with Asperger’s have the physical coordination to carry the large amount of munitions Adam Lanza supposedly carried? Why did no parents file a lawsuit against the school, when in every other school shooting suits have been filed? And ultimately, why would the state threaten Halbig?

“The things [we're] talking about.. they should never offend any parent…These are simple questions that we as homicide investigators, we need to know and we should know.”

School Shooting Expert Threatened Over Sandy Hook Investigation Police at Sandy Hook
Sandy Hook elementary / Image: Wikimedia Commons

Truth Seeking Won’t Stop

Altogether, from the puzzle pieces he’s collected and analyzed, Halbig concludes there is a massive cover up.

“Absolutely… It is.. when you refuse to respond to simple requests, something is not right.”

The next step legally, Halbig says, would be to hire attorneys and depose the key players of the investigation, because, “The only way you’re ever gonna get the truth is by getting them to raise their right hands..” “..[I]f you lie in a deposition and if you’re caught in that lie, there’s a lot of things that you can lose, you can go to jail and you can lose your retirement..” warns the safety consultant.

When asked if he feels his life could be in danger if the cover-up goes all the way up to the White House, Halbig answered he is not fearful because he’s led a rich life, but that for him, people showing up and knocking on his door was the final straw.

“Here’s the problem and this is what got me fired up even more, is when they start bringing people to my house.”

Halbig says next he’s traveling to Newtown, Conn. and scoping out the crime scene, and that he’s possibly planning a Sandy Hook event in Orlando, Florida sometime in the near future.

He says he won’t stop until he gets some answers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM5ZdO-IgEE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.prisonplanet.com/school-shooting-expert-threatened-over-sandy-hook-investigation.html

ThePythonicCow

28th February 2014, 19:37

School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook
Four days after this was initially posted on FederalJack.com (http://www.federaljack.com/school-safety-expert-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook/), Popeye of FederalJack did a second interview with Halbig on Feb 18, 2014. On that day, Halbig was visited twice more by police:

just before that second FederalJack interview, and
then again during the interview, causing the interview to end early at that time.

Here's the resulting FederalJack show, including that second interview, as uploaded on Feb 19, 2014, to Youtube:m0ThvL55R9I

The following words were added to FederalJack's first interview as linked above UPDATE: WOLFGANG HAS BEEN VISITED TWICE BY THE LOCAL SHERIFF’S DEPT SINCE THIS INTERVIEW WENT OUT, EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER INTERVIEW. CLICK HERE TO HEAR THE UDATE. ("][/url]

http://federaljack.com/dtrh/Down_The_Rabbit_Hole_w_Popeye_02-18-2014_Wolfgang_Halbig_on_The_Sandy_Hook_Massacre.mp3[/MP3]
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ThePythonicCow

28th February 2014, 20:46

Four days after this was initially posted on FederalJack.com (http://www.federaljack.com/school-safety-expert-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook/), Popeye of FederalJack did a second interview with Halbig on Feb 18, 2014. On that day, Halbig was visited twice more by police:

just before that second FederalJack interview, and
then again during the interview, causing the interview to end early at that time.

Could someone with a Facebook account check out Wolfgang W. Halbig's Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/wolfgang.w.halbig), and let us know whether there is any sign of activity from Halbig himself, since about Feb 19, 2014?

My searching of the Web found nothing from Halbig since then. Popeye of FederalJack said in his Feb 19 upload of his Feb 18 interview with Halbig that he saw Facebook activity from Halbig in the time following that interview.

meeradas

28th February 2014, 21:18

Last activitiy on his account was 7 hours ago

Atlas

28th February 2014, 21:36

Posted by Wolfgang W Halbig, 8 hours ago:

WHO WOULD HAVE DIRECTED THE NEW HAVEN FBI OFFICES TO CLASSIFY THE SANDY HOOK SCHOOL SHOOTING ON DEC 14, 2012?

WHAT IS THERE TO BE CLASSIFIED ON DEC 14, 2012 AT SANDY HOOK SINCE YOU HAVE THE FOLLOWING AS STATED BY THE CT STATE POLICE REPORT.

CLOCK STARTS TICKING WHEN THE FIRST 911 CALL COMES IN TO NEWTOWN POLICE DISPATCH: 9:35:21 AM DEC 14, 2012

1. SHOOTER ADAM LANZA (MAYBE)
2. SHOT HIS WAY THROUGH THE FRONT GLASS OF THE SCHOOL (MAYBE)
3.SHOT AND KILLED 20 CHILDREN AND 6 SCHOOL STAFF MEMBERS. (MAYBE).
4. HE KILLED HIMSELF (MAYBE).
5. HE FIRED 153 ROUNDS IN EIGHT MINUTES (MAYBE).
6. HE DROVE A BLACK HONDA CIVIC (MAYBE)

NOW WHAT IN THE ABOVE CT STATE POLICE FACTS HAS TO BE CLASSIFIED?

STAY FOCUSED BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT.

MY MAILING ADDRESS IS 25526 HAWKS RUN LANE, SORRENTO, FLORIDA. 32776
PHONE 352-729-2559
NO P.O.BOX

ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH BECAUSE THERE IS LESS TO REMEMBER.

ThePythonicCow

28th February 2014, 21:39

Last activitiy on his account was 7 hours ago

Posted by Wolfgang W Halbig, 8 hours ago:
Cool - thanks!

Cidersomerset

28th February 2014, 22:36

Its a bit confusing what they are saying it seems a dispute whether they voted
that copying documentation would become a felony. It seems they have confirmed
it was by 14 votes to 2 at the end. Whether that means Halbig can now be charged
for asking questions I'm not sure. It looked like the vote was on 24th jan 2014.

Sandy Hook Hoax-Privacy Panel Slips in Five Year Sentence for Release of Info

Friday 28th February 2014 at 03:48 By David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Published on 25 Feb 2014

Victim Privacy and the Publics Right to Know Task Force slips in recommendation for
five year prison sentence for release of FOIA exempt information at the last minute
and without informing the only two members representing FOIA interests. SCANDALOUS.
http://www.ctn.state.ct.us/

ThePythonicCow

1st March 2014, 00:50

Lenin noted: “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves”.

Beware controlled opposition and limited hangouts :).

I'm suspecting that Wolfgang W Halbig's statements mix:

good points, which are appealing to someone like myself who is quite open to the proposition that Sandy Hook was really Sandy Hoax,
with inaccuracies, which will provide easy targets for the "those conspiracy nutters are all a bunch of lying nut cases" side.

For a really ugly, unworthy of actually being embedded, attack on Halbig, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYTz-G3LH5Q

For a more appealing, though nothing fancy, note of caution, see:ujH2O4Fz0iI

Halbig ran for Lake County Commission District 4 (Florida, USA) in 2010 -- his candidate's biographical sketch on the Orlando Sentinel website (http://elections.orlandosentinel.com/2010/november/compare/race/95/candidate/799) is the most coherent biography I can find on him.

Halbig states on the Children's Safety Institute website (http://childrenssafetyinstitute.com/our-story/) that he's a former Executive Director of National Institute for School and Workplace Safety (NISWS) (http://www.nisws.com/). Apparently that is the former NISWS ... I can find no evidence that it currently still operates, and the link I just gave above to the NISWS website is dead. My guess is that the NISWS Institute was formed to provide an incorporated front for Halbig's school safety consultation endeavors.

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It will be quite easy for the bastard manipulators to get half or more of the people noticing this viral eruption of Halbig's story to go away convinced that anyone claiming that "no one died at Sandy Hook" must be a deranged conspiracy nutcase (regardless of who did or did not die there that day.) This easily ranks up with the "no real planes hit the World Trade Center twin towers" for being an easy to ridicule claim (regardless of whether the claimed commercial jet planes, or any actual jet propelled hunk of metal, hit those towers.)

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I did find (outside of the Facebook presence others reported on above) one more "Halbig sighting" following his Feb 18, 2014 interview. On the evening of the next day, Feb 19, Halbig did a phone interview with David Knight on Alex Jones' Infoworld Nightly News:
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Halbig's Infowars interview starts at the 16:00 minute mark here (http://youtu.be/QaMwXVPrKAQ?t=15m59s).

ThePythonicCow

1st March 2014, 01:12

Sandy Hook Hoax-Privacy Panel Slips in Five Year Sentence for Release of Info
Another twist -- perhaps worth its own thread :).

But ignoring my own good advice to move this to another thread, and continuing with this topic here ...

The proposed FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) changes have passed the US House of Representatives unanimously, as reported two days ago at Inforworld.com: House unanimously passes FOIA bill (http://www.infowars.com/house-unanimously-passes-foia-bill/). That story makes this sound almost good, beginning:

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The House on Tuesday unanimously passed a bill that would make Freedom of Information requests easier with potentially faster response times.

H.R. 1211, the FOIA Oversight and Implementation Act of 2014 was co-sponsored by House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and ranking member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), and puts into action an executive memorandum from President Barack Obama that calls on all agencies to have a “presumption of disclosure” to all FOIA decisions.

Perhaps most significantly for journalists, the bill would create a centralized online portal for FOIA requests under the Office of Management and Budget, and set up a group that will recommend future improvements to the FOIA process. Currently FOIA requests can be a complicated and complex process of going through different agencies and offices, who often take weeks or months to respond.
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For an even more positive sounding report on this, see FOIA bill in the U.S. House is one of the best opportunities to institutionalize open government (E Pluribus Unum) (http://e-pluribusunum.com/2014/02/25/foia-act-in-the-u-s-house-is-one-of-the-best-opportunities-to-institutionalize-open-government/)

In my view, centralizing (US Federal) FOIA requests is surely done to provide the administration more centralized control, more than to expedite responses. Adding the five year felony at the "last minute" further buttresses the suspicion that this is not done with the intention to increase public access to suppressed information.

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In any event, Federal FOIA laws are distinct from State of Connecticut FOIA laws (and for all I know, Halbig perhaps did not even submit genuine Connecticut FOIA requests, whatever form them are legally required to take.)

ThePythonicCow

1st March 2014, 01:39

For a perhaps more level headed, though less engaging, debunking of the official Sandy Hook story, consider this recent Youtube video:
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Top Ten Reasons Sandy Hook Was an Elaborate Hoax

ThePythonicCow

1st March 2014, 04:28

Pete Santilli has a long interview with Wolfgang Halbig4q3NhlTWtYw
The Halbig portion starts at 1:07:08 into the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q3NhlTWtYw&feature=share&t=1h7m8s
Santilli is not one of my favorite interviewers ... but he does a good job with this one.

Santilli's interview makes it clear that Halbig is first and foremost a "by the book, procedures" sort of guy. I doubt that someone could succeed in a 30 year career in school coaching and administration any other way, these days, in most US schools.

The fundamental objection that Halbig has is that the police and officials handling Sandy Hook didn't follow procedures and are not responding to requests for information as they should, by the book. This is not evidence of what did or did not happen, and when Halbig says something that sounds like "no one was killed there", he does not mean has evidence that no one was killed there. Rather he means that he lacks evidence, by accepted (in his view) procedures, that some were killed there.

Lack of "by the book" evidence is not evidence of a lack of a crime. Much less is it evidence of what was the nature of the crime.

However, once pushed past that fundamental mindset of a bureaucrat, Halbig does have some good observations (mixed with some sloppy thinking.) Rescue helicopters were not called in (that seems to be consistent with all evidence, official and otherwise) and only a few or no victims received medical attention (whether few or none is apparently debatable.) Most of the victims were so obviously dead from the massive gun shot wounds (according to the official story) that police were able, in the first few minutes, to determine that they were beyond making any effort to revive. In an active shooter situation, with some 20 or 30 victims, and the police not even (so they claim) knowing if they had one or multiple shooters, it is not possible that one lone, frail young man with limited training could fire the many hundreds of rounds in 5 or 8 minutes claimed, with some 95% kill ratio and with so much damage to each victim that it wasn't even worth letting the medics make an attempt to revive each one (give or take 2 or 3 that might have received medical care.) And Halbig is likely correct in observing that if it really had gone down this way, with police making illegal and peremptory decisions to withhold medical triage efforts, and if there really were some 20 normal children of normal parents so murdered, then the lawsuits would have flown left and right. Such peremptory police action would have been rash, illegal and immoral, and left them wide open to massive law suits from some very angry parents. I'm sure that we've got some medics in our American ambulances and rescue helicopters that can revive people from some god awful gun shot wounds, thanks in part to the excellent "training" for just such trauma provided by America's non-stop "War on Terror" in the Middle East and Southern Asia.

The official story, including the absence of law suits, is impossible.

However Halbig has spent too many years as a bureaucrat making official sounding statements and assuming an authority and expertise he doesn't deserve. Halbig does a poor job of making what seems to me to be a slam dunk case that Sandy Hook was some sort of Hoax or Black Op or Big Lie or False Flag or ...

As an example of Halbig's sloppy thinking, he supports his conclusion that no medics were allowed into the school by citing the public reports of some medics who were not allowed in. Evidence that some were not allowed in is not evidence that none were allowed in.

As another example of Halbig's sloppy thinking, he supports his conclusion that first responders parked a quarter of a mile away from the school, rather than getting as close as they could and moving to neutralize the threat as quickly as they could by observing that one particular first responder unit parked in back of the school rather than in front. Without analyzing what other first responders were on scene or very close, within the first few minutes, and where those other first responders went to access the school, this proves nothing in my book. For all I know, it is likely that first responders were all over that school, front, back and side, within minutes of the initial 911 calls.

As an example of Halbig's sloppy procedures, he seems to hang his entire objections first and foremost on the failure of officials to respond to his requests for information, including some Freedom of Information Requests, making reference to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). But Halbig has not documented his FOIA requests, and continually confuses various forms of requests, including messages left on phone answering machines and email requests. He excuses his lack of documentation (odd for such a bureaucratically inclined person) by saying he was planning to remain "quiet" while he was making the requests, and surprised by all the attention he got recently. He claims to have his own records of each contact attempt, but he has not published these nor described them in any detail for others.

Bill Ryan

25th March 2014, 17:10

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Jim Fetzer (who is an Avalon member (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?13308-Jim-Fetzer), btw) yesterday posted this new article about Wolfgang Halbig on Veterans Today:

http://veteranstoday.com/2014/03/24/wolfgang-halbig-heads-to-newtown-for-the-truth-about-sandy-hook

In it, Halbig's 16 unanswered questions are listed:

Wolf’s 16 Questions

From all of the attempts to discredit Wolf, one might infer that he is some kind of radical out to stir up concerns where none are warranted. But the issues that he has raised appear to be very simple and straightforward, which are raised by published accounts, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting)press reports (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/nyregion/with-release-of-final-sandy-hook-shooting-report-investigation-is-said-to-be-over.html) and the video record (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVLCSqoZYqY). Here are sixteen:

1. Who on 14 December 2012 was the Incident Commander as required by the Federal Emergency Management Administration in directing the Mass Casualty Shooting Incident at the Sandy Hook Elementary School?

2. Who and Why did they not request the Life Star Helicopters knowing that children and school staff are seriously injured and clinging to life?

3. Who and Why did they not allow the Paramedics and the EMTs inside the Sandy Hook School to treat any seriously injured children and school staff clinging to life?

4. Who declared all eighteen children and six school staff members legally dead within the first eight minutes? [NOTE: Two were claimed to have been transported to a local hospital before they died. The purported shooter, Adam Lanza, and his mother, Nancy Lanza, are not included in this count.]

5. Who was the Certified Environmental Bio-Hazard Decontamination company contracted by the Newtown Public Schools to remove gallons of blood, skull fragments, brain tissues, bodily fluids, blood soaked carpets and decontaminate areas inside the Sandy Hook School?

6. Why does an off duty Lieutenant from the Newtown Police Department refuse to leave his off duty work assignment at a construction site on 14 December 2012 after hearing that shots have been fired at the Sandy Hook Elementary School?

7. Who at the Newtown Public Schools notified all of the parents in writing (as required by CT law) that had children attending the Sandy Hook Elementary School as well as every school staff member every school year of all the potential life threatening chemical hazards? [NOTE: The school had high levels of lead paint throughout the entire school, Asbestos in the ceiling tiles and floor tiles, asbestos in the insulation and, most of all, the school had a very high levels of PCB. Check out what PCB is and it should scare any parent.]

8. Who provided the urgent medical care for the two children who were not transported to the Danbury Trauma Center until an hour after the school was deemed safe for that 15-mile drive?

9. Who treated those two children who had been shot multiple times–as many as 3 to 11 times–since they did not allow the paramedics and EMTs inside the Sandy Hook Elementary School?

10. Why did the parents of the two children who died at the Danbury Trauma Center not allow their children to donate their organs to other children waiting for the gift of life?

11. What happened to the 500 children and 60 school staff members from Sandy Hook Elementary School on 14 December 2012?

12. Who was the police officer calling into the Newtown Police dispatcher stating in his words that he has multiple weapons, he has a rifle and a shotgun and who has the rifle and the shotgun as the chain of evidence should show that was found in Classroom 8?

13. Why would a police officer by the name of Lt Vangehle at 9:45:21 am on 14 December 2012 from the Newtown Police Department after finding a kindergarten female child in the hallway make her go into Classroom 8 and leave her? That was a gruesome crime scene with dead children and school staff. Who would do that?

14. Why would two CT State Troopers enter Classroom 10 at 9:55:31 am on 14 December 2012–which was a gruesome crime scene with dead bodies of children and school staff–and tell a kindergarten boy who they find in the bathroom whose name is redacted and tell them so it must be more than one to stay and they will be both back when it is safe?

15. Who ordered the porta-potties that showed up at the scene of the crime about three hours after the event?

16. Who ordered the twenty-six Christmas trees that were stored behind the Firehouse on 14 December 2012 and then brought out to be decorated to commemorate the twenty-six reported victims?

This last question is remarkable by itself because, had the Firehouse been conducting a Christmas tree sale, it would have been normal to have had dozens and dozens of trees, not just the right number to equal the number of victims.

Gerald Paris

25th March 2014, 17:20

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Cidersomerset

25th March 2014, 18:29

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Hi Gerald after questioning his credentials and motives in the first two vids,
by Brendon Hunt, which is fair enough, as We have no idea if these people
are who they say they are. Only time tells if witness's are genuine or not
in many cases.

In the third which was hard to understand.It sounds like they were going to work
together or at least keep in touch. So I'm not sure where Tony stands on Halbig ?
They sounded friendly enough.

Tangri

26th March 2014, 06:48

I thing, most clues are underlying on parents backgrounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrCuD9zH0PI&feature=youtu.be

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frozen alchemy

26th March 2014, 23:37

I think I can answer at least some of the questions, to play devil's advocate.

The first police officers in the building apparently found two different rooms that had been shot into, with a pile of tiny 6 year olds, each with between 3 and 11 holes in them, described by one EMT who saw it as 'baseball sized holes', many to the face. If the one description I read was accurate, only one boy sustained one injury alone, and that was directly to the face. Most of the EMTs were not allowed into the building because the victims were quite dead, and the scene was that horrific. The police who saw it will need therapy for the rest of their lives and many are already alleging PTSD and an inability to return to work. A high powered gunshot wound to a 6 year old is not survivable at what was only a few feet's range.

The children were more likely identified by pictures supplied by the parents (not the other way around) and by their clothes. Don't know what that goonie-bird medical examiner** was talking about when he mentioned how his photographers 'were very good photographers' but all or most of the children were shot in the head, which is why the parents for the most part were encouraged not to look at the bodies.

There was no attempt that I know of to use organ donations but several gunshot wounds to major organs in a small child precludes most donations, except perhaps for corneas; we have no way of knowing if this was done or not. Remember these were murder victims, not expected deaths in-hospital, and permission for this sort of thing was not easy to come by, and since it was murder, the ME gets involved at that point, delaying things. The bodies that were left in the school for over 15 hours would not have been in any condition for donations.

Some of this information I'm extrapolating from what I've read and see on video, others from a career in the medical field. At first I thought that perhaps no one had died but then I saw in one of the crime scene photos, an unredacted bloody mark on a door frame; this tiny detail made it all too real. I have my doubts as to whether Adam Lanza was the perpetrator, or whether he was a patsy and killed by someone else at the scene, though. Too many questions with this one about the people in the woods, etc.

And I'll never, ever understand parents getting up in front of a newscamera within a day and asking for money. This is a town where everyone seems to live in half million to 1.5 million dollar houses, and the funerals appear to have been donated. People in Detroit are losing kids every day in gun violence and you don't see them setting up charity donation funds to the tune of 10s of millions of dollars to bury their kids and overcome the trauma. If this had been me, I would never have smiled again. My life would have been over and I would have probably gone berserk on anyone who stuck a microphone in my face.

** I've met many MEs and pathologists in my career and a lot of them are very strange; which came first the job or the strangeness is up for grabs; but H Wayne Carver takes the cake. He should have submitted a written report rather than go in front of the cameras. I've never seen anything so unprofessional in my life as that press conference.

Slorri

26th April 2014, 11:13

Smallstorm interviews School Principal Paul Preston - SpeedofLight

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Sofia Smallstorm interviews school administrator Paul Preston about the Sandy Hook shooting. Paul Preston spent 41 years in the California school system and now hosts his own radio show (www.Agenda21Radio.com). Hour 1 of this interview focuses on school drills and Sandy Hook as a staged exercise. Hour 2 (available at www.PureMomentum.net) gets into the "Potemkin village" aspect of Newtown as a model for implementation of Agenda 21 societal control. Says Preston: "I have a lot of [insider] sources ... and every one of my sources said it was a false flag. They had factual knowledge of such."

Paul Preston spent 41 years in the California public school system, working his way up the ladder from custodian to district superintendent. He was a teacher, coach, vice-principal and principal before retiring in 2012 as superintendent of two charter schools. He is highly trained in school safety issues, having organized drills of many kinds, including active-shooter drills. His website is www.Agenda21Radio.com, which he created to alert listeners to the real nature of the United Nations Agenda 21 programs for global sustainability.

"For those of us who have been in the field of education and have been a part of the lives of the children we have touched, it's an honor hard to describe. When children are threatened or harmed and you, as a professional, are responsible for their safety, the world changes. You become a different person. For the rest of your life, a new sense is there that screams from an inner instinct of protection. When I saw the events of Sandy Hook unfold, that instinct was instantly triggered, yet the story that was being portrayed did not add up. I must pause at this point to let you know where I come from on school issues. I served 41 years in public schools in California working from custodian to superintendent. I was a teacher, coach, vice principal , principal and superintendent. As an administrator, I have seen the best and worst of humanity. I have been involved in a range of school safety issues from shootings, drugs and gangs to child sex-trafficking, and much more. I have advised and been an expert witness in court on gangs and drugs. I have organized and conducted numerous school drills (e.g., active-shooter, earthquakes) in Northern and Southern California. I was even questioned by detectives investigating the Columbine shooting on the subject of the Trench Coat Mafia and Neo-Nazi hate groups. So when I watched the news footage of what occurred on December 14, 2012 in Newtown, Connecticut, using my own keen eye developed from 41 years of witnessing actual tragedies and staged exercises in schools, I knew immediately that Sandy Hook was not a real event." -- Paul Preston

ThePythonicCow

27th April 2014, 09:44

Smallstorm interviews School Principal Paul Preston - SpeedofLight
Aha - you beat me to it :).

I just cross posted this at Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook -- Post #25 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65200-Sofia-Smallstorm-Unraveling-Sandy-Hook&p=827686&viewfull=1#post827686).

Slorri

7th May 2014, 12:42

Wolfgang Halbig Confronts Newtown Board Of Education (Part 1)
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Wolfgang Halbig Confronts Newtown Board Of Education (Part 2)
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Wolfgang Halbig Confronts Newtown Board Analysis
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Snowflower

7th May 2014, 13:38

There are too many red flags for SH to have been anything but a staged and deliberate false flag. Only thing I'm not sure about is whether or not any real children were killed in the event. If not, why not? Psychopaths would have no hesitation about using children as targets - they do it all the time in drone attacks. Why risk what is happening now - FOI demands for proof of actual deaths et al - when they could have sent an assassin in pretending to be Adan Lanza (their patsy) and done the actual deed? The fact of no actual deaths doesn't make any more sense than the rest of it.

thepainterdoug

9th May 2014, 16:06

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got to give it to these guys for their persistence. i follow jim fetzer on veterans today .
he is one of the leading investigators who believes this story just doesnt wash.
i must admit i have some real problems with this event since day one.
the school board seems not to say a word.

aranuk

9th May 2014, 18:49

It is absolutely incredible how the board members just ignored the speakers and carried on with their dull agenda. What a waste of time. Gross public indecency. Further to watching that video, I found
another one on youtube which was longer.

Stan

pyrangello

9th May 2014, 20:10

Lots of open gaps for sure, one site suggested many homeowners in the area of the school mysteriously had their mortgages paid off after this incident by an unknown . If this did happen many condolences, if it didn't how much money would it take for your to lie all the way to that bank?

jake gittes

9th May 2014, 20:26

Here is Fetzer's story about the meeting: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/09/the-newtown-school-board-meeting-and-the-meaning-of-silence/

This was such a hoax, it is ridiculous! My B.S. detector went off by the MSM "reports" of the phony event. My initial reaction was that the video and photos didn't look authentic -- too controlled, no panning/scanning of the area as you would expect. Nobody with any common sense could possibly believe the "official" narrative after examining all the evidence, or LACK THEREOF! When are people going to WAKE UP????

Delight

9th May 2014, 20:45

I didn't see this posted? Jeff Rense interview with James Fetzer and Wolfgang Halbig after the meetings......

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Fetzer_Halbig_050614.mp3

Warren Peace

10th May 2014, 00:11

We have to thank Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer for staying on this. I live in Brookfield, next to Sandy Hook (and I worked 3 miles from the school on the day in question), and I have spoken to several people who say they knew some of the families who lost kids that day (actually, only one). However, it does seem that the CIA sent a hit squad in to do some foul play, likely as a message to Peter Lanza in regards to the LIBOR scandal. Whatever the truth is, we will likely never know it, as the criminals and co-conspirators are keeping quiet. Perhaps some whistleblowers will get a conscience and explain the details of this case, before they get murdered. Clearly, the looney State Medical Examiner knows that something Very Fishy has occurred.

The government - OUR government - must be complicit in this heinous crime, for otherwise, they should be putting Dr. Wayne Carver, Medical Examiner, on the stand to answer for his fraud. I am disgusted at the people who sold their SOULS to allow this despicable fraud.

Do we have to overthrow our own government to get to the truth?

sigma6

10th May 2014, 09:29

I didn't see this posted? Jeff Rense interview with James Fetzer and Wolfgang Halbig after the meetings......

http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Fetzer_Halbig_050614.mp3

Whoa.... writing a press report and collecting $14,000,000 dollars in one or two days?????... How much have they collected to date?? At least David Wilcock actually has to do research, attend seminars around the world, write books, study. And I doubt he make millions, But hey a CRIME SYNDICATE makes 20,000,000? 50,000,000? 100,000 million? Where's all haters dumping their crap? on this stink pile? (they usually operate in groups, if you notice...)

This kind of money, nobody knows where it goes... That means they could do this on a regular basis as a profit making enterprise. This is the same deal as the Libyan Rebels who decided to set up a Banking system... Like Who would know how to set up a Banking System????? This is the work of a CRIME SYNDICATE, and the POLICE are a part of it... Fantastic interview. Just when you think they can't pile it any higher... They expose more sh**. Brilliant... Another Made in USA Movie Production... who said it? The Hollywoodization of Terrorism...

And did you hear the bit about the "Patriot" and the constitution lawyer...
Two different systems... You have to remind all these idiots they are working for McDonalds and your not an employee!...

Think about the government that many are praising and looking up to and dying for is just a specialized Version of McDonalds.

EYES WIDE OPEN

14th May 2014, 09:51

He has a blog. I think its fairly new. It has his C.V. http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/

Cidersomerset

15th May 2014, 15:09

Connecticut Tries to Hide Sandy Hook Truth

Wednesday 14th May 2014 at 07:34 By David Icke

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‘For over a year, former educator, US Customs agent and school safety expert Wolfgang Halbig has been
on a painstaking mission to uncover the truth behind what really happened in Newtown, Conn., on
December 14, 2012 – the day the world was told 20 schoolchildren and 6 staff members were shot
and killed by a 20-year-old weighing just above 110 pounds.

Halbig has narrowed down a list of 16 questions which he has yet been unable to get answered.

Last week, the former school principal and a group of his supporters headed to the crime scene in
an effort to bring those questions to the attention of the Newtown Board of Education. Not
surprisingly, he was met by a strong police presence and a deluge of negative press that, instead
of investigating his research, was more concerned with painting him as a conspiracy loon.

“Do you not teach character education?” a frustrated Halbig asked a room full of school board
members. “You used the word ‘honesty’ in your presentation. Where’s the honesty in this room?”’

Read more: Connecticut Tries to Hide Sandy Hook Truth

http://www.infowars.com/connecticut-tries-to-hide-sandy-hook-truth/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/05/14/

jerry

10th June 2014, 03:35

Sandy Hook A must see incredible video footage of the backlash that they are giving Mr. Halbig .

Note:fast forward to the 2min mark to get to the meat of the vid and avoid the commercial commentary

FemGg9x4WQ8

Sidney

10th June 2014, 09:05

UNbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUMP:bump::bump::bump:

Matt P

10th June 2014, 12:41

This is very revealing, especially with the fireman. Put yourself in his shoes. If Sandy Hook was real and you were a part of it, you would simply and passionately share a few facts and your confidence in this would be recognizable. You wouldn't have to threaten or run away. But this guy is lashing out, foul mouthed, insulting and on the brink of violence. Having a camera there is probably all that prevented him from striking Mr. Halbig. Making fun of his belly was the dagger in my mind. I mean, really?!? People with nothing to hide don't act like this. You can tell who has the truth on his side by how each acts.

As for the cops, what can you say. There are like 8 of them standing around (not that that's unusual!) and you can tell they are just supporting the big guy and they have no real reason to be there. They are just following his lead. Of all the nerve to tell Mr. Halbig if he shows him respect it will be shown him!! And those people inside felt threatened? Please. Again, the truth is never threatening if you're on the side of it. If there's nothing to hide, those people would say, "Come on in and have a look." The big bulldog cop is a joke. Take away his badge and I'd like to see him act like that. Pathetic cowards, all of them.

What inspires people to act like this? Well, we know either their homes were paid off or they received cash payments of other kinds. They were probably told to take the money or their families would be accidented and if they ever spoke of it the same would happen. It's the only thing I can imagine that would inspire such disgusting behavior.

I have an incredible amount of respect for Mr. Halbig. I have very little patience for disrespect or rudeness and tend to mirror it when it's directed at me. I would probably have ended up in cuffs in this confrontation. His composure is amazing.

Matt

Daphne

10th June 2014, 12:42

Wow....I wonder if any of the cops had their homes paid off like so many residents in The town did on December 25th 2010. I saw it in the newtown town records online. House after house paid off on Christmas Day of that year....will there be ANYONE who was involved who will develop a conscience and tell the truth? It's only a matter of time for more info to come out. The pressure must be scaring the crap out of them. Wolfgang Halbig s a Patriot and a Hero!

Matt P

10th June 2014, 13:41

The pressure must be scaring the crap out of them.

This is what I believe explains the actions of these firemen and cops. The pressure that comes from fear of being found out.

Matt

Zaya

10th June 2014, 13:57

That's what happens when you forget to hire an actor for the part... They sell you out by panicking.

They almost screwed up with letting H. Wayne Carver speak publicly without essential acting training. (The medical examiner who seriously botched his press conference in an embarrassingly obvious way). Luckily the government was smart enough to make him sign some stuff saying that he can never speak about it.

Tip for false flagger pros: Don't laugh when discussing the bodies of dead children.

turiya

4th August 2014, 20:53

NEW INFORMATION!

For the SANDY HOOK SCRIPT PART 1, Click here (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93101048.pdf)!
For the SANDY HOOK SCRIPT PART 2, Click here (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93533774.pdf)!
For the SANDY HOOK SCRIPT PART 3, Click here (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93780868.pdf)!
For the SANDY HOOK SCRIPT PART 4, Click here (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93935829.pdf)!

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HOMELAND SECURITY & FEMA
CAUGHT WITH THEIR PANTS DOWN
AT SANDY HOOK
PART ONE
Wolfgang W Halbig

SCRIPT: SANDY HOOK SHOOTING MASSACRE
LEAD ACTOR: Sgt. David Kullgren
Supporting Actors: McGowan (67) and Seabrook (95) and Penna (D5) and Figol (81).
Supporting cast members: CT State Police, Newtown School Board Members, City of Newtown and especially the Newtown Police Department.

So what really happened on Dec 14, 2012?
http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/Turiya_Files_/Rense/SANDY_HOOK/ROLL6_SCENE6_TAKE6.png

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Shooting Script Uncovered.
Produced by
Homeland Security and FEMA

Thanks to two CT State Troopers for having the courage and ethics in
allowing me to see the real Government Conspiracy.

PARTICIPANTS
President Barack H. Obama
Attorney General Eric Holder
Former FBI Director Robert Muller
Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Ct Governor Dan Malloy

PLEASE STAND BYE UNTIL YOU ARE NEEDED WE NEED THE FROST TO MELT FIRST.

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IS THE FROST MELTED YET?

[Sandy Hook Justice.com]

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IT ALL STARTS WITH THE FIRST 911 CALLS.

STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)
Report #: 1200704559–00003262

ACTION TAKEN: The Detail Call for Service Report was received
from Newtown Police Department. This report is the call log from their
CAD system located in the dispatch center of the Newtown Police
Department, and pertains to the events of the Sandy Hook Elementary
School shooting incident.

Observe how the call was handled by “NUTE” the Newtown Police
Dispatcher

Detail Call For Service Report:
Login ID: d30074 Print Date/Time: 12/15/2012 17:01

[Sandy Hook Justice.com]

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The date above is the date the report was printed for CSP

From Date: 12/14/2012 09:35
To Date: 12/14/2012 09:35
Areas: All
(203) 426-7657 Nature Of Call: You will not believe what they
wrote:

Call Type: P Unwanted Person:

NOT SHOTS FIRED AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WHY?

Report Required: No

Status: Priority: Medium

Person Information

Lookup - - -. NEWTOWN E911 Caller 12 DICKINSON DR (203) 426-7657

TOWN OF Newtown, CT

How did they know the license tag at 09:35 of the black Honda civic on
Dec 14, 2012 that was already logged in?

Plate: 872YEO Plate State:

Agency Type:
Primary Incident: 2012-00030519

Dispatch Time: 12114/2012 09:36:55

Arrive Time: 1211412012 09:50:28

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Created By: Nute,Robert

Canceled: No

Source: 911

Newtown Police Radio Transcription in their words and
timeline.

I point out all of the inconsistencies.

Lies and misinformation in the report, as you will read
and see.

WE NEED THE POLICE DISPATHERS AUDIO
TAPES TO VERIFY THIS SCRIPT.

There are enough lies and misinformation by sworn
police officers to open a Grand Jury Investigation with
a Special Prosecutor appointed.

(BOLD ARE MY FACT FINDINGS)
I copied their comments as it was written in the script.
I made no corrections to their grammar.

STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION

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Download the pdf (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93101048.pdf)to get the rest of the Played-Out Drama
WEBSITE (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/)

turiya :cool:

turiya

5th August 2014, 01:23

John B Wells (8/1/2014) Interview with Wolfgang Halbig...

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Excerpt At 01:50
"You would not believe it... John, I have the script!"

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http://learnandgrowtv.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/go-button2.jpg?w=150&h=150
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turiya :cool:

linksplatinum

5th August 2014, 04:40

I'm on page 20 now, and you can see all of the mistakes, especially the big one of the cop giving someone "supposedly", a traffic ticket and wasn't even on the scene when he was on the walkie the whole time. This as a whole is a crash and burn, and will be the end of this act of terrorism that was played upon humanity. These perps are in deep sh!t!!
Man...what a disgrace!!

Ciaran

5th August 2014, 10:47

I knew this was bull****, now lets see all the reports buried again, no way they are going to admit the truth... good stuff good post...

turiya

5th August 2014, 22:27

Rense 8/04/2014 (http://rense.com/)

Hour2: Wolfgang Halbig - Sandy Hook Shooting Script Uncovered (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/2a1y4z0z4r/Rense.20140804.2of3.mp3)

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Website (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/)

HOUR2
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http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/2a1y4z0z4r/Rense.20140804.2of3.mp3

turiya :cool:

turiya

13th August 2014, 03:14

SANDY HOOK SCRIPT PART 2 (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93533774.pdf)

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Here we go:

These sworn affidavits by the Ct State Police Officers and Lt Vanghele and others should cause the CT Federal Prosecutor to open a Grand Jury Investigation on Steven Sedensky State Attorney in Danbury and every sworn law enforcement officer who perjured himself knowingly and willfully in their own statements.

STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 "'00030931
!
ACTION TAKEN:
'BADGE NO
0272

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0930 hours, I was working as the supervisor in the Southbury Resident Trooper's Office. I was traveling on Lakeside Rd. when I heard Troop A dispatches all available units to an active shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

I entered 1-84 Westbound from the on-ramp on Lakeside Rd. I traveled westbound and got off at exit 10 in Newtown. I took a left off of the ramp and traveled on Church Hill Rd.

I continued onto Riverside Dr. and arrived at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Upon arrival, I parked my vehicle near left side of the entrance to the school parking lot, next to Lt. Hofbauer's vehicle near' the fence.

I exited my vehicle and proceeded across the parking lot, using the first row of vehicles as cover.

I approached the front door of the school; I observed a dark vehicle parked in the fire lane to the right side of the entrance.

I entered the school lobby through the front doors and I observed Sgt. Cario coming through the lobby with a child in his arm.

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Now watch 16 Ct State Troopers go through the shot out and broken glass window.

WHY?

Now read about 16 Ct State Police officers in sworn police affidavits who entered the school or they cannot remember how they went through the shattered shot out glass window.
HE GOT IT RIGHT.

1. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 - 00017426

ACTION TAKEN:
BADGE NO
0837[/B]

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0930 hours, I was parked at Troop A writing a report in my vehicle.

Dispatcher Brennan put out a radio transmission that there was an active shooter at a school in Newtown.

I put my vehicle in gear and headed westbound on 1-84. I asked dispatch which exit to use to get to the school.

As I approached the front entrance of the school, I observed the broken glass on the ground near the doors.

I observed several troopers and police officers inside the lobby of the school. I entered the school through the broken glass window on the right side of the main doors.

WHY?

SandyHookJustice.com

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How is that possible when they the police officers inside could have opened the doors and not disturb the crime scene?

Another unbelievable sworn police officers statement:

2. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 – 00019631
BADGE NO
0174

Action Taken: On 12/14/2012 at approximately 0930 hours, I was at the Woodbury Resident Trooper's Office completing paperwork, when I heard Troop L broadcast that Newtown was responding to an active shooter incident.

Upon hearing this, I left my office and responded towards Newtown in my assigned cruiser.

I arrived at the scene.

As I pulled into the parking lot, I parked my vehicle away from the main entrance and behind several rows of cars that could be used for cover.

I exited my vehicle and retrieved my shotgun from the trunk and observed TFC Blumenthal #690, do the same.

We then proceeded towards the main entrance of the building.

As I approached, I observed a large hole in the glass window to the right of the main doors, which were closed.

TFC Blumenthal and I entered the building through the hole in the glass window.

WHY?

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How is that even possible when that window has shattered glass everywhere and good seriously injure someone by all the broken hanging glass?

It is a crime scene.

3. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 – 00026724
BADGE NO
0149

On December 14, 2012, I was the dayshift supervisor at Troop A. At 0937 I was in my assigned cruiser in the Kmart Plaza, South Main St Street, Southbury, when I heard the first transmission from Dispatcher Betsy Brennan of an active shooter at the Sandy Hook School, Newtown.

I made my way to 1-84 west via the #15 on ramp as I instructed all my western patrols toward the school, with the eastern patrols to start heading in that direction (CSP radio time: 09:37:38).

I also told my deskman, TFC Chris Kick #811, to get an address for us so that we did not have to look for it.

While en route, Regional Dispatch Deskman TFC Loomis broadcasted more than once that the shooter was in the main office area.

As our cars were coming to a stop, Lt. Hofbauer radioed that he and M.Sgt. Davis had arrived (CSP radio time: 09:46:30).

I did not sign off at the scene.

We immediately exited our cars and ran toward the school's entrance with our handguns drawn.

Lt Hofbauer ran along the driveway, in front of parked cars.

M.Sgt. Davis and I ran behind this row of parked cars and then turned left,
between parked cars, to run toward the front door.

SandyHookJustice.com

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We all re-grouped, as we got closer to the entrance.

I could not clearly see through the glass, but I could see a very large hole shattered in the glass to the right of the main doors.

I remember considering that the front doors might be locked, and I did not want to stop moving until I was somewhere with cover.

I know that I considered going through the window.

As we approached the door I remember seeing Lt. Hofbauer's hand grab the door handle, and that I was off to his right.

I do not remember how I entered the school, but it may have been through the window.

HOW CAN YOU NOT REMEMBER? The lie comes in a later report.

How can a sworn trained police officer not remember how you and the others entered the school on Dec 14, 2012?

4. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: ~-200704559- ·00251204:

ActionTaken:
·BADGE NO
.'0842

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0935 hours, I was in my assigned cruiser off duty in the Town of Southbury when I heard a radio broadcast for an "active shooter'' at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickinson Street, Newtown, Connecticut.

I immediately responded to the school, following the directions that were

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being broadcast over the radio.

I arrived a short time later, at the same time as Trooper Cipriano.

When I arrived at the school, I observed several civilians behind the parking lot on Dickinson Street. I then recognized Detective Mudry running toward the main entrance of the school.

Detective Mudry called out to me and Detective Mudry and I entered the main entrance of the school either through the front door or the broken window.

How is it again that sworn trained Ct State Police officer cannot remember how they entered the school on one of the most tragic school shootings in Elementary School history?

5. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559-00019631
Sgt Roden
BADGE NO
0174

Action Taken: On 12/14/2012 at approximately 0930 hours, I was at the Woodbury Resident Trooper's Office completing paperwork, when I heard Troop L broadcast that Newtown was responding to an active shooter incident.

I exited my vehicle and retrieved my shotgun from the trunk and observed TFC Blumenthal #690, do the same.

We then proceeded towards the main entrance of the building.

As I approached, I observed a large hole in the glass window to the right of the main doors, which were closed. TFC Blumenthal and I entered the building through the hole in the glass window.

SandyHookJustice.com

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WHY?

I observed Sgt. Cario #149 carrying a child, which appeared to be lifeless, out of the building. I observed two Newtown officers, and between 4-5 troopers in the lobby area.

Trained Ct State Police Officers broke every cardinal rule especially when they are observing other officers inside the school.

7. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT

CFS Report#: 1200704559 • 00041707

ACTION TAKEN:
Page 1 of3
BADGE NO
0811

On 12/14/12, I was working as the Troop A desk trooper.

I was at the front desk at Troop A when the "bat phone" rang at approximately 0936 hours.

I answered the phone and was greeted by Disp. Betsy Brennan. Brennan informed me that there was a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Upon arrival to the school, I entered the school parking lot from Dickinson Dr. and traveled to the right side of the parking lot.

I drove to the far end of the parking lot and positioned my vehicle on the front right corner of the school, near the front doors.

I exited my vehicle and ran across the front of my vehicle to the front doors of the school.

Upon approaching the front doors, I observed that the windows to the right of the doors were broken and glass was on the ground outside of the school.

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I am not sure if I checked the doors to see if they were locked but I eventually entered the school through the broken glass windows.

As I climbed through the windows, I observed a Newtown officer to my right.

WHY THROUGH THE GLASS WHEN YOU POLICE OFFICERS
INSIDE?

Trained Ct State Police Officer again having to enter the front of the school through the broken shot out glass window. Why? Police are inside.

8. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY - Page 1 of 2
INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report #: 1200704559–00027950

ACTION TAKEN:
On 12/14/12 at approximately 0935 hours, I was in Southbury, CT when Troop A dispatch put out a broadcast that there was an active shooter situation in Newtown, CT. I traveled westbound on I-84 and exited at exit 10.

When I arrived, I went to the front left corner of the building and met with TFC Benecchi. Benecchi and I proceeded across the front of the building to the front door.

As approaching the front door, I noticed a hole in the glass window on the right side of the front doors.

Benecchi and I met Lt. Hofbauer and MSgt Davis at the front door.

We all entered the building through the broken window and entered into the lobby of the school.

WHY? This is an Lt and a MSGT who should know better. Now these four Ct State Troopers would have disturbed the furniture inside the school since the hole in the glass was no that great?

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Not one of them removed the remaining glass in order to prevent them from being seriously cut by the broken glass.

Why is the furniture still in place after all those CT State Troopers entering that broken glass window?

9. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)
Page 1 of 3

CFS Report#:·1:200704559· -'00007591

On 12/14/12, I learned of an "active shooter" at Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickinson St. Newtown, CT from Lt. DeNecchia.

I then recognized Det. Zullo crouched behind a dumpster on the side of the school with his long gun in adown range position. I called out to Det. Zullo to make entry into the school.

We entered the main entrance through either the front door or broken window.

This is a high profile Mass Casualty Shooting at an Elementary school on Dec 14, 2012 you just don’t forget how and what you did that morning.

10. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)
Report#: 1200704559 • 00011235

0336 BLUMENTHAL, WILLIAM

On 12/14/12, at approximately 0930 hours, I was on Route 8 Northbound near Exit #32, in Waterbury. Troop A Dispatchers broadcasted the report of an ~Active Shooter", in Newtown.

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I immediately started heading west.

Shortly after, I heard them announce the location, Sandy Hook Elementary School, followed by directions for the responding cars.

We headed to the entrance located along the North side of the building. One (1).
One - ounce slug shotgun round, of an unknown color, fell from my ammunition bandoleer, while crossing the parking lot.

I recovered this later.

As we approached the school, I saw a CSP cruiser, (later identified as TFC Kick's #811 assigned vehicle), near the patio/doorway. Lt Davis, was standing outside the vehicle.
·
Sgt Roden and I approached and joined an entry team.

Utilizing the blown out window, we joined other officers and entered/secured the lobby area.

11. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 213/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559-00025074

0336 HOFBAUER, MICHAEL R.
Page 1 of3
BADGE NO
0040

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0937 hours, I was at Troop A when I overheard dispatch call out an active shooter at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown.

At this time, I clarified the location of the school at the Troop A sergeant's office.

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Arriving at the front doors of the school, an unknown Newtown Police Officer had
gained entry in to the lobby and opened the front door for me.

Master Sergeant Davis and Sergeant Cario then followed me into the lobby.

Now we have a huge distortion of the truth taken under oath by other CT State Police Officers.

Let’s Look: CFS Report #: 1200704559–00027950

ACTION TAKEN:

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0935 hours, I was in Southbury, CT when Troop A dispatch put out a broadcast that there was an active shooter situation in Newtown, CT. I traveled westbound on I-84 and exited at exit 10.

When I arrived, I went to the front left corner of the building and met with TFC Benecchi.

Benecchi and I proceeded across the front of the building to the front door.

As approaching the front door, I noticed a hole in the glass window on the right side of the front doors.

Benecchi and I met Lt. Hofbauer and MSgt Davis at the front door.

We all entered the building through the broken window and entered into the lobby of the school.

At this point I have lost faith in anything that the CT State Police have to say.

How you entered that school and searching for other suspect’s is a moment that you will never ever forget.

12. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
SAFETY INVESTIGATION
REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

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CFS Report#: 1200704559 • 00002060
Page 1 of7
BADGE NO
1085

INTERVIEW REPORT
Date and Time: 12/18/12 beginning at 0830 hours and concluding at 1143 hours.

Place of Interview: This is posted just as it was written I did not do spell check for them.

Newtown Police Department
LT's office
3 Main Street
Newtown, CT
Action Taken:
Newtown L T, Vanghele provided a typed statement.
"On 12/14/12 at approximately 9:35a.m.

I was at my desk at the Newtown Police Department completing paperwork.

I heard over the radio system that officers were being dispatched to what appeared to be gunshots at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

A group of State Troopers then started to walk into the school from the front door.

I believe they walked in through the broken front window.

They each had their guns drawn and were asking what was going on.

Why go through the broken glass window exposing you to serious
injury?

These 11 sworn police affidavits showing them entering the Sandy Hook Elementary School through the shot out glass window is just unbelievable.

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16 or more trained police officers seeing other police officers inside the Sandy Hook front lobby decided to place themselves at Risk by entering the school through the broken glass instead of having another officer inside the school open the door for them.

I have been out of law enforcement for some time now and am totally amazed with the new policies and procedures for Mass Casualty Shootings by Homeland Security and FEMA that have been implemented.

SandyHookJustice.com

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turiya :cool:

turiya

22nd August 2014, 23:38

SANDY HOOK SCRIPT PART 3 (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/files/93533774.pdf)
SandyHookJustice.com

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS SWORN AFFIDAVIT OF
A WITNESS AND THE NEWTOWN POLICE
DISPATCHER.

STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
INVESTIGATION
CFS Report#: 1200704559-00155346

REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)
00012 Dickinson Dr/ Newtown

TRANSCRIPTION OF RICHARD THORNE'S (SCHOOL
CUSTODIAN) 911 CALLS TO BOTH STATE AND NEWTOWN
POLICE

ACTION TAKEN: In this investigation, I was assigned to transcribe the 911 call made by school custodian, Richard Thorne. Thorne was located in the west hallway of the school during the school shooting and called 911 from that same location. The purpose of transcribing the telephone calls was to assist in putting together a timeline for the school shooting.

SWORN AFFIDAVIT OF 911 CALLS BY HEAD CUSTODIAN

09:35:43 Rick Thorne - Custodian - First 911 call to the CT State Police Centralized Dispatch

Brennan: "State Police 911, what's the location of your emergency?"

Thorne: "Yes, I think we have shooting down at the Sandy Hook Elementary School"

Brennan: "okay..."

Thorne: "Please get down here"
CT State police dispatcher does not even bother to ask the address of the shooting to send Ct State Police. Why?

Brennan: "Alright stay on the line with me sir .. I don't want you to hang up...
I'm going to connect you to Newtown ok?"

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Thorne: "Ok"

09:36:13 - Telephone call gets transferred and Newtown Police dispatcher Nute answers ...

Nute: " Newtown 911, what's the location of your emergency"

Thorne: "Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickinson Drive"

Nute: "Ok I've got that, what's going on down there?"

Thorne: "I believe that there is shooting at the front... at the front glass... Something is going on"

Nute: "Ok ... Alright I've got officer.. I want you to stay on the line with me. Where are you in the school?"

Thorne: "I'm down the corridor"

Nute: "Alright I want you to take cover, Jen get the sergeant.. alright, get everybody you can going down there"

Nute: "Let me get some information from you"

Nute: "What makes you think that?"

Thorne: "The front glass is all shot out.. It kept .. kept going on"

Nute: "Ok" (State PO Dispatcher Brennan still on the line)

09:36:49 Thorne: "It's still happening"

Nute: "Alright, what about the students in the front of the building"
How does NUTE the dispatcher know that there are children in front of the building?
Who brought up children in front of the school it is not Thorne as you can see.

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Thorne: "Can't do it, everything is locked up as far as I know, I am not in the front"
Who was the person that used the Sandy Hook Elementary School Intercom system to announce a School Lockdown?

Nute: "Alright.. you're in lock down"
Who was the person that used the Sandy Hook Elementary School Intercom system to announce a School Lockdown?

Thorne: "Yeah, they're in lock down"
Where is the Assistant School Principal since the Principal has been shot and killed?

Nute: "Did you see anything out the window?"

Thorne: "No, it's still going on, I can't get over there"

Nute: "I don't want you to go over there .... I want to know what is happening with the students in the front corridor, this is in the front parking lot?"
Why does NUTE talk about children in front parking lot when NO one has even told him that information?

Brennan: "Uh, Newtown what's the address of the school?"

Nute and Thorne: "Twelve Dickinson Drive"

Brennan: "Ok"

9:38:07 Thorne: "Something is happening"

Nute: "Ok, Jen hang up, I need you to get off that phone"

Nute: "Alright Rick ... Rick ... what do you hear now?"

Thorne: "Yes?"

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9:38:23 Thorne: "yeah, uh ... now it's silent"

Nute: "Ok ... alright so now when you say the school is in lock down ... "
Who was the school staff member that announced the school lock down at Sandy Hook Elementary School?

Thorne: "All the doors are locked, the kids are in classrooms"
Kaitlin Roig a teacher in room 12 said in her sworn statement that her room was not locked. We also learned that room 8 and room 10 where unlocked so how can Thorne say that all doors are locked?

Newtown Police found a side door to the school unlocked.

Nute: "Ok, so at this time you are defending in place?"
This is the phrase that shows that it is a script because No one uses the term DEFENDING IN PLACE in a school emergency.

So why do we have NUTE asking Thorne if he is DEFENDING IN PLACE?

Ask any school district or any National School Safety and Security Consultant what the term DEFENDING IN PLACE means?
They do not use this term. The term being used is SHELTERING IN PLACE.

Are you DEFENDING IN PLACE?

Thorne: "Excuse me"

Thorne does not even know what NUTE is talking about.

THIS IS A SCRIPT THAT NEEDED MORE PRACTICE.

This information in the Official Danbury State Attorney Ct State Police Final Report is written under sworn police affidavits and now it is time to challenge their sworn testimony.

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posted by turiya :cool:

EYES WIDE OPEN

1st September 2014, 12:38

http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/05/04/ministry-of-plenty/

VERY interesting. I wish I could win the lotto 7 TIMES IN A SINGLE DAY!!!!

Pam

1st September 2014, 12:47

http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/05/04/ministry-of-plenty/

VERY interesting. I wish I could win the lotto 7 TIMES IN A SINGLE DAY!!!!

So money is being funneled from the lottery system to pay people off? That really is interesting if that is what is going on.

Zaya

1st September 2014, 15:00

That is an interesting, unexpected angle. Wow. I wonder what else will be dug up about this over time... So funny to me that people still insist that Sandy Hook actually happened and that it wasn't one big giant hoax. How is there anything left to hold onto with that?

Daphne

1st September 2014, 15:13

Yes the crime continues! And if I dare mention it in conversation I get slammed.

Pweeky

1st September 2014, 21:48

truth4me

2nd September 2014, 12:30

...I almost regret starting to look into the Sandy Hook affair..it gets more and more unbelievable. Sometimes I wonder if our planet Earth is round at all. It feels more like a dark hole from where it's impossible to escape.

Yes, your point is very valid. Escaping the system here on planet earth could be the biggest trick of all....

turiya

15th September 2014, 04:19

Jim Fetzer Interviews Wolfgang Halbig on the Sandy Hook Scr1pt Update

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linksplatinum

17th September 2014, 21:28

Threats and Bribes used to suppress information about Sandy Hook as gun control moves forward

To reference video and/or images visit link of origin.~~~~>
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/16/threats-and-bribes-used-to-suppress-information-about-sandy-hook-as-gun-control-moves-forward/

by Connecticut Resident (with Jim Fetzer)
“The Militarization of Police is underway via the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission”–Connecticut Resident

A dozen CTSP swear they entered the school through this window. Even Curly would have opened the door for the other stooges.
The Sandy Hook Commission met on 12 September 2014 and has developed a plan for firearm purchase, background screening, review of types of firearm carry permit, purchase permit, and ammo amount purchase.

They continue to say that “If you are a hunter or a target shooter, you only need so much ammunition…etc.” Not once a mention about the reasons why our founding fathers spelled out the 2nd Amendment.

This group does not mention Adam Lanza, their investigation or any verification of the fact that this event even occurred, but instead dive right into the ban/restriction on firearms.

A team of security consultants, psychiatrists, psychologists, and teachers are now experts on firearms and our 2nd Amendment rights, where they are molding and shaping our rights–or the erosion of those rights herein–and we can watch it all transpire on our computers.

To watch the proceedings, click Sandy Hook Advisory Commission:

Harold I. Schwartz, of the Institute of Living (psych hospital in Hartford) was the one who initially spoke out about the Commission getting no funding, and no answers. I wonder where he stands now. I’ve mailed to his office letters, facts in the form of photos etc, information, and a heartfelt plea for him to take a look at the facts here and see if he believes this really happened.

Anyone with a DUI or someone who has been committed to a mental institution, and more limitations, will either not be granted a permit ever, or their guns will be removed and their permit will be taken away. Much of this cannot be argued that it sounds logical, but it is upon the looking down the road, and the extrapolation of what these new restrictions imply about our existing recognized rights that makes someone like me concerned for the direction this is headed.

Another law that they are proposing here is that police powers in one jurisdiction be transferable to another county, and will be present for major events/crimes at the request of the hosting jurisdiction. If one reads in between the lines here, one will see the centralization of power, the militarization/federalization of police–this is the police state coming to life, and this group of people is at the forefront of breathing life into the law. In FEMA Capstone fashion, where people from all departments and corporations are brought in for the event, they would like to use the UN Agenda 21 doctrine of emergency response for our school emergencies.

To a naive person, this may seem simply as a way to get more responders to help in the event of a tragedy. To the critical thinker, awake to the subtext and reticent of anything that centralizes power and universalizes a regime, we see the larger plan at work, and see it as a Freedom Grab. Please watch and report what you see this as. Are you surprised that the Sandy Hook Commission has suddenly nothing at all to do with investigating Sandy Hook–especially when the proof that Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax has become overwhelming?

Threats of Prosecution and Bribes used to pacify Newtown residents and to suppress information about Sandy Hook

by Sherwood Ross (with Jim Fetzer)
“I suppose it’s a bit much to expect the FBI to admit its own complicity in a crime of this magnitude, but that is what the evidence suggests”--Jim Fetzer

Newtown has been given $50 million to build a new K-4 elementary school, even though the average cost nationwide is only $7 million. And the families of the alleged victims have received more than $27 million in donations from a sympathetic public.

Moreover, there are reports that “gag orders” were issued to residents within 25 miles of the school, apparently including the use of National Security Letters (NSLs) from the FBI, which recipients are not even allowed to acknowledge they have received.

The highly unusual letters have been used to direct residents to “cease and desist” from talking under threat of prosecution, says Dr. James Fetzer, former U.S. Marine Corps officer, a professor emeritus and journalist for Veterans Today, who has been investigating the case.

Not only were no children killed, Fetzer said, but the school was closed by 2008 and appears to have been used by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to run exercises in cooperation with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in the past.

Francis A. Boyle, a Constitutional lawyer and expert on human rights at the University of Illinois School of Law, has characterized NSLs as “totalitarian”: “They violate and nullify the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. They are totalitarian.”

Letter to the FBI (Thursday, 11 September 2013)

A few questions about Sandy Hook . . . . 4:26 PM (21 hours ago)

to andrew.ames, bcc: wolfgang, bcc: Day

Andrew,

As a journalist and editor for Veterans Today, I am doing research on Sandy Hook and have a couple of questions for you as representing the FBI. I shall appreciate hearing from you.

I have noted that the FBI’s report is massively redacted: 64 of its 175 pages are completely redacted and most of the other 111 partially.

(1) What was the purpose of the redactions?

(2) If Adam Lanza came to the school, shot 26 persons and then himself, what’s to hide?

(3) How can other school systems learn from a report to guard against anything like it from happening to them when its mostly redacted?

(4) Eric Holder met with Governor Malloy on 27 November 2012, only a few months prior to the event. Did they discuss any issues that were related to school shootings or drills?

(5) Eric Holder has a reputation as a fanatic gun-control enthusiast, even telling those at a Women’s Conference in 1995 that the public needs to be “brainwashed” to change its attitude on guns. Was this a drill to promote that agenda?

(6) I have reports that national security letters were sent to residents with 25 miles of Sandy Hook Elementary School advising them that they could not talk about it. Were any such letters sent? And if so, WHY? I am asking about any NSLs or variations on the theme, such as cease and desist orders.

Thanks for getting back to me promptly. I am working on a deadline to publish this Friday.

With appreciation,

Jim

James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
Journalist and Editor
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Dr. Fetzer has written to the FBI to affirm or deny their use in Newtown, but several days have passed with no response. “I suppose it’s a bit much to expect the FBI to admit its own complicity in a crime of this magnitude,” he observes, “but that is what the evidence suggests.”

The purpose of the event, which was several years in the planning, Fetzer said, was to promote the Administration’s anti-gun agenda, such as Attorney General Holder’s “Operation Longevity” to reduce public support for the 2nd Amendment and the public’s right “to keep and bear arms.”

In addition to Mr. Holder and the President, other officials who appeared to play crucial roles in the hoax include Conn. Gov. Dannel Malloy, Lt.-Gov. Nancy Wyman, the Connecticut State Police, Newtown Police, the Newtown School Board and the Newtown “Bee” weekly, which apologized when it was forced to retract an interview with the school’s principal, after official reports declared she was officially already dead prior to the interview.

A team of Sandy Hook students, including three professors, have published what Dr. Fetzer describes as “overwhelming evidence” that the school shootings are a hoax, including multiple studies on veteranstoday.com establishing the following:

# SHES was closed by 2008 and used as a prop for the drill conducted on Dec. 14, 2012. Local residents were aware that it had been abandoned and was being use for drills but apparently did not speak out because of the use of NSLs.

# The iconic photo of children being led out of the school to safety was taken several times, including rearranging the children to get “the best shot”, and was taken in better weather, not on a cold day around 28*F with frost on the ground.

# Although 27 persons (including 20 first graders) six adults and the shooter were allegedly killed at SHES, the only child’s death certificate available to the public (for Noah Pozner) turns out to be a fabrication that was photoshopped.

# 64 pages of the 175 page FBI report on SHES are completely redacted and 111 others heavily redacted, rendering it unintelligible. The government does not want the public to know what happened, even to take steps to avoid a repetition.

# Los Angeles school safety authority Paul Preston, who has conducted such drills himself, checked with his contacts in the Federal Department of Education who confirmed that it was a drill and that no children or adults had died.

# The official report from State’s Atty. Stephen Sedensky not only provides no motive for Adam Lanza, the alleged shooter, but does not connect him with either the weapons he is alleged to have used or the victims he is supposed to have killed.

YouTube - Veterans Today -

# Some video comparisons suggest that Nancy Lanza was being played by one “Anne Haddad,” while others support the conclusion that Adam Lanza was a creature of fiction. The extent to which this event was fabricated appears to be that bad.

# To sue the state of Connecticut, it is necessary to petition the Commissioner of Claims, in this case one J. Paul Vance, Jr., who, it turns out, is the son of Lt. Paul Vance, Sr., the State police officer in charge of the SHES case.

Dr. Fetzer said the circumstances surrounding SHES are “Machiavellian,” in that Federal, State and Local authorities “came together to perform a stunt deliberately calculated to strike fear into the heart of every American parent and child.”

A new grant of $7.1 from the Department of Justice to support long-term counseling for families, law enforcement and first responders, he observed, is simply absurd and sweetens the pie for those who participated in this monstrous deception. And this is in addition to earlier grants:

In August 2013 the Obama Department of Justice doled out $2.5 million to law enforcement and first responder agencies involved in the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre. In May 2013 and January 2014 the US Department of Education directed a total $3.2 million to Newtown. Also in 2013, Newtown received a $1.5 million grant from the DOJ’s Office for Victims of Crime. Overall the federal government has now funneled a total $14.3 million to the Newtown region since the Sandy Hook event.

Wolfgang Halbig, a former Florida State Trooper, school principal and nationally recognized school-safety expert, was told by two Connecticut State Troopers not involved in the ruse that a massive data dump by the Connecticut State Police was actually the “script” for the event, which he is publishing with notes and annotations reflecting how shabbily it was constructed, including sworn but false affidavits by other Connecticut State Troopers, at sandyhookjustice.com.
“This means,” Dr. Fetzer concludes, “that the U.S. government has been committing acts of terror on the American people to instill fear and manipulate them into supporting its own political agenda.”

(Further Information, Sherwood Ross, Sherwood Ross Associates, Miami, FL, USA sherwoodross10@gmail.com to arrange for media interviews with Dr. Fetzer.)

Akasha

17th September 2014, 21:58

The following video adds some weight to the OP. If it comes up as "Not available in your country" simply go to unblockyoutube.us (http://www.unblockyoutube.us/), plug in the Youtube video URL and then watch.

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jake gittes

27th September 2014, 01:49

Not sure if this was discussed and moved off the board, but interesting that a -0- showed up under murders in Newtown in 2012. The excuse given is that towns voluntarily supply the information and sometimes don't. But come on! The FBI investigated this thing itself - and still put down zero. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... :confused:

Fetzer's latest at VT:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/26/sandy-hook-no-murders-in-newtown-in-2012-the-power-hour-and-alex-jones-interviews/

Snookie

27th September 2014, 05:08

The lack of evidence of this ever happening is overwhelming.

cursichella1

1st October 2014, 18:49

This is interesting, I guess trying to remind us all of the 'reality' of what we've been told occurred in Dec 2012 since the number of doubters has grown?

NEW SANDY HOOK (http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-school-evacuated-after-threat-5793903.php)

MONROE, Conn. --Students of the Sandy Hook Elementary School were evacuated Wednesday morning after a male caller phoned the school's office and said there was a bomb in the building.

The approximately 500 students, still traumatized by the Dec. 14, 2012 shooting of 20 first-graders and six educators, were evacuated and bused to another school.

Lt. Brian McCauley said a bomb threat was phoned into the school by at 9:39 a.m. Wednesday. To err on the side of caution, students were evacuated to a neighboring school. The kindergarten through fourth-grade school was dismissed early with students being bused home or picked up by their parents.

"The building and grounds were checked, and no evidence of the actual threat was found," McCauley said.

Monroe police are attempting to trace the call with the help of a computer crime expert.

The Sandy Hook school in Monroe replaced one in nearby Newtown after one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history. The school was demolished last year.

Jimmy Greene and Nelba Maquez-Greene, whose daughter Ana was killed in the Newtown shootings said, "We are first grateful to hear that all children and staff were physically unharmed. Also, I am thankful for the quick response and transparent communication of the superintendent and the staff of Newtown Public Schools. They care about our children. They have proven this over and over again. Lastly, this event clearly indicates the need to reach those people who choose to commit such cruel and thoughtless acts."

With a school that has already been through much, and the mental health fragility of students and staff is still a major concern for district leaders, said Newtown Board of Education chairman Keith Alexander said this is particularly offensive.

"We would appreciate not to have these situations,'' Alexander said. "We want to be sure that everyone is as safe as possible, and that's why we have to go through this sort of activity. But they (students and staff) really have had enough things to go through so we don't want them to face any more anxiety. And I hope this action helps people feel safe. But they'd feel even safer if we didn't have silly people make these calls,''

Newtown First Selectman Pat Llodra was angered over the threats. "I will not stand to have any of our schools be victimized in this fashion. This is not funny. It's harmful, and hurtful and we need it to stop."

Given all this school community has experienced since the tragedy, and its continual road to recovery and healing, Llodra said this is another assault on their safety and security. "I just think it's so unfair, and harmful. I wish whoever it is thinks this is an action to be taken, threats to students and staff who have experienced so much hurt, would understand how much harm this does.''

She said there will be a vigorous investigation and pursuit of the culprit. "Whoever made the calls, if and when the person is identified, they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,'' Llodra said.

The evacuation comes after a report in Politico shows the Newtown school community is still suffering with chronic absenteeism, students having difficulty sleeping and trouble paying attention in class.

Their ongoing struggles are detailed in the district's application for a third federal Project SERV grant, obtained by Politico, to help the district move forward after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary. "The sense that school is an unsafe place throughout the community, along with severe post-traumatic stress, anxiety, depression, and grief reactions, has affected how students perform in and outside of the classroom," the application said.

The Sandy Hook staff and students relocated to Monroe's former Chalk Hill School in January 2013 weeks after the mass shooting. Work is beginning on the new school in Newtown that is expected to be opened for the 2016-17 school year.

Source 1 Oct 2014 CT POST
http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Sandy-Hook-school-evacuated-after-threat-5793903.php

Lifebringer

1st October 2014, 19:01

Oh, is this the real deal, after the practice alert/response?
Terrorism. Also the sister of the boston bomber supposedly threatened someone on the phone who was questioning her that, "she could send someone who does bombing to her house. Ladies and gentlehumans, please fasten your seat belt turbulence and a bumpy ride assured, if we can't sway the human side of this deceit and betrayal coup.

linksplatinum

8th October 2014, 17:08

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/08/wolf-meets-with-oath-keepers-cia-spy-confirms-sandy-hook-and-boston-bombing-false-flags/

Videos are within original link above
by Jim Fetzer, Dr. Eowyn and David Weiss
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Liberty-Men-with-Wolf.jpg

David Weiss, Wolfgang Halbig and Tim Rothschild (no relation to the infamous banksters of the same name)
Wolfgang Halbig converted nearly 200 “Oath Keepers” during a presentation on Long Island, including many New York State Police, EMTs and other experts in this domain.

He was accompanied by David Weiss, who has composed a summary of the event, which I am now publishing here. And we have a video that goes with it.

In addition, we have discovered a manual that appears to be the op plan for the Sandy Hook exercise, which Obama officials in the Department of Education have confirmed was a drill where no children died that was done to promote an anti-gun agenda.

And a former CIA spook has declared that Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing were “false flag” occurrences, where a staged event is presented as done by others to influence a target audience. He identifies several “indicators” that it was not a real event.

Dr. Eowyn, who has done exceptional studies of Sandy Hook, presents her analysis of what he had to say during an interview with Alex Jones, during where (as an insider) he confirms what we have been publishing at Veterans Today and on Dr. Eowyn’s personal blog.

The Wolf is on the prowl

Wolfgang W. Halbig came to an Oath Keepers meeting in Long Island NY on Monday, 6 October 2014, to discuss the evidence of the Sandy Hook massacre actually being an elaborate illusion pulled off by people within FEMA, Homeland Security and the highest levels of our government. He presented to a packed room of 150-200 persons, of whom about half were law enforcement and EMS workers. Prior to the presentation, I had (David Weiss) interviewed a few random people on their thoughts on Sandy Hook and all of them said they only know the official story of a lone gunman killing 26 people and they were here to hear a presentation on what really happened. They had no idea what they were about to hear. Wolfgang presented for just over 2 hours followed up by a Q&A. There were intelligent questions asked in search of an alternative reason things might have happened but the answers brought every point back to the undeniable conclusion that the official story was just that, an impossible story. By the end everyone there was wide awake to the mass deception played out on the world on 14 December 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeF610B-1Iw
YouTube - Veterans Today -

Many people out there have different opinions of Wolfgang from him being an agent for the PTB to not agreeing with his methods of investigation. If you don’t like his methods, that is your opinion and you have every right to it but if you think he is an agent out to crush the truth movement, thats where I step in and tell you that you are very mistaken. I (David Weiss) met Wolfgang after his first interview (with Dave Gahary) to go viral on YouTube. I helped him set up a PayPal account, which he had no Idea how to do and later his GoFundMe crowd funding account. The man has no ties to anyone that is out to stop truth. He has no agenda other than to expose the fraud at Sandy Hook. He has risked his life and his family relationships over this and has not gained a personal penny. In fact he has spent much of his own money. Love him or hate him, he is giving it his all and is a true American patriot and hero.

The FEMA Drill document

Originally we came across a Youtube video showing the attached document describing a FEMA drill scheduled for 12/13/12 that would be reviewed as a real-time event on 12/14/12. It certainly would be a smoking gun if it could be determined to be authentic. An administrator from the “Sandy Hook HOAX” FaceBook page reached out to the YouTuber to see where he obtained the document. He explained that he was crawling the web with a specific browser looking for interesting stuff and found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR4Snb-TYUs
YouTube - Veterans Today -

If this document is real–and it describes and event that beings at 8 AM and ends at 11:59 PM, which corresponds with the Sandy Hook timeline, which reinforces that inference–there are two alternatives as to how it came to be discovered: either (1) it wasn’t hidden well enough and someone found a way in; or (2) someone involved purposely leaked it to anonymously blow the whistle.

An additional reason to believe that this is the manual for staging the event is that a bill before the Connecticut State Legislature provides compensation for the stress and anxiety endured by those who were within the vicinity of Sandy Hook Elementary School between 9 AM and 11:59 PM when it occurred, which is the same time specified in (what appears to be) the actual manual for its conduct and represents what should properly be interpreted as yet another form of bribery to not expose the scam:

While meta-date embedded in the PDF shows a creation date of 10/8/12 however it is not difficult to fake. You would only need to reset your computer to that date and create a new PDF. That is reminiscent of the sting on Dan Rather, who discovered a fitness report on George W. Bush wile serving in the Texas Air National Guard. He vetted it thoroughly by verifying its contents, word by word, with the secretary who typed it and the officer who had dictated it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqVaNSzEgEw
YouTube - Veterans Today -

But one of W’s handlers–probably Karen Hughes–had already discovered it and had it retyped, so that when Dan Rather presented his expose on television, they immediately declared it to be a fake because it had been types using a font that IBM only introduced after the date of the document itself. Most Americans, hearing that the document was fake, mistakenly inferred that its contents must therefore be false. This may be meant to be a sting of that kind.

Former CIA Spy: Sandy Hook and Boston Bombing were false flags

by Dr. Eowyn

Robert David Steele, 62, is a former CIA clandestine services case officer known for his promotion of open source intelligence. He was a candidate for the Reform Party‘s nomination for President of the United States in the 2012 presidential election. (Click here for his bibliography and media appearances.)
Steele is the founder and publisher of Public Intelligence Blog.

In a recent interview with Alex Jones of InfoWars, Steele confirms everything FOTM has said about the Sandy Hook school massacre on December 14, 2012, and the Boston Marathon bombings on April 15, 2013 — that they were false flag events.

A “false flag” event is some traumatic public incident that is:

False: The public are given an untruthful version of the event by the government and the media. The falsity can range from no one actually had been killed or hurt (it was all theater); to some of the alleged victims are real; to all the alleged victims are real but the alleged perpetrator(s) is a fall guy who was set up by the “real” conspirators behind the scenes.
Results in a “rallying around the flag” effect: Whatever the true nature of the “false flag” event, the objective is to arouse and manipulate the emotions (fear, anger, outrage, indignation) of the American people so that they’ll “rally around the flag” in an outburst of patriotism, supplying the current White House occupant and his (and his party’s) policies with their support and loyalty.
Below is the video of the interview, followed by the transcript of Steele’s words, interspersed with links to the relevant FOTM posts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYPrt4Hr8BI
YouTube - Veterans Today -

Beginning at the 6:03 mark, Steele said:

“From where I sit, both the [Sandy Hook Elementary] school in Connecticut and the Boston Bombing were false flag operations.

“The school in Connecticut had been closed for years. There were no students, no teachers, no parent-teacher associations. The paramedics were not allowed into the school. From where I sit, that was a complete false flag. It was a drill. But … others have exposed the actors who were involved, financial relations with the families that were allegedly victimized, who had their homes bought and were then given exit pass. All of that is on the record, but you don’t see the media covering that.”

See:

Was Sandy Hook Elementary School already abandoned before the massacre?
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/11/was-sandy-hook-elementary-school-already-abandoned-before-the-massacre/
No one died in Sandy Hook: Testimony from Social Security Death Master File
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/09/26/no-one-died-in-sandy-hook-testimony-from-social-security-death-master-file/
Sandy Hook massacre was a “contrived event,” says former state trooper Wolfgang Halbig
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/02/25/sandy-hook-massacre-was-a-contrived-event-says-former-state-trooper-wolfgang-halbig/
Remarkable resemblance of Sandy Hook victims and professional crisis actors
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/remarkable-resemblance-of-sandy-hook-victims-and-professional-crisis-actors/
The strange purchase date and price of Sandy Hook homes
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/02/13/the-strange-purchase-date-and-price-of-sandy-hook-homes/
Sandy Hook victims’ funds reap millions of dollars in donation
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/sandy-hook-victims-funds-reap-millions-of-dollars-in-donation/
CNN deception: Live aerial footage of police running into Sandy Hook was of another school
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/cnns-live-aerial-footage-of-police-running-into-sandy-hook-was-of-another-school/

Steele continues: “Boston bombing, for me, the truthteller was when the rabbis and the priests rushed to comfort the wounded and they were not allowed to get near any of the wounded. That, in intelligence, we call an indicator. And then you add to that the fact there were no, I mean no, wounded people taken to hospitals. And finally, you add to that the big to-do about the amputee. He turned out to be a hired actor for a company that specializes at putting amputees into battle field simulations. False flag. Boston was a practice attempt to lock down an entire city.”

See:

Why were Catholic priests turned away from Boston Bombing victims?
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2013/04/30/why-were-catholic-priests-turned-away-from-boston-bombing-victims/
Did you know there are AMPUTEE crisis actors?
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/21/did-you-know-there-are-amputee-crisis-actors/
Hollywood producer Nathan Folks says Boston Bombing’s a false flag
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/05/01/hollywood-producer-nathan-folks-says-boston-bombings-a-false-flag/
Boston Bombing! A Pictorial Refresher Course. Stinkometer Overload!!
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/23/boston-bombing-a-pictorial-refresher-course-stinkometer-overload/
Boston Bombing: Getting the sheeple used to the police state
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/boston-bombing-getting-the-sheeple-used-to-the-police-state/
The woman in red: Proof of Boston Bombing crisis actors
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/25/the-woman-in-red-proof-of-boston-bombing-crisis-actors/

Beg. at the 8:44 mark, Steele said: “the actual bomb was a theatrical device. You don’t buy gun powder at a fireworks store to create a bomb. It just is not done. I had my explosive ordinance people look at this. Everybody laughed at this. This was school kids stuff. THERE WAS NO BOMB. There were no injuries. This was a false flag.”

See “Were Boston Marathon bombings a false flag? – Part 2: The bomb drill“
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/were-boston-marathon-bombings-a-false-flag-part-2-the-bomb-drill/

Steele continues: “And now we’re seeing 9/11 unravel, and Richard Gates getting on CSPAN. Basically, the American public is starting to wake up, and all of these little things that they could have gotten away with are now starting to collapse because of the Internet, because of guys like you, because of people like me and my contributing editors. And so I think we’re coming to the end of the road here. I do believe, and I really want to stress here, I think 95% of the people in the U.S. government are good people trapped in a bad system. But the last 5% are doing some evil, pathologically sick things, including murdering U.S. citizens. And that’s the part that I’m starting to see signs of encouragement. For example … the court has finally just refused to accept [Eric Holder] Attorney General’s assurances about secret state documents, and for the first time in modern history the court is saying to the executive, ‘You have to show us these secret documents. We will not make you make claims without showing us the documents. I believe the tide is turning, legally, against government misbehavior.”

David Weiss maintains a Facebook page called, “Exposing The Big Three”, which compiles the best articles and videos on 9/11 Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing.
https://www.facebook.com/ExposingTheBigThree

Dr, Eowyn maintains the Fellowship of the Minds blog featuring Sandy Hook Massacre and Boston Marathon Bombings pages for links to all the other posts she has published on those two false flag events.
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/sandy-hook-massacre/
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/boston-marathon-bombings/

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Meggings

8th October 2014, 20:53

As Sandy Hook and so many events are staged to manipulate us into fear, into willingly giving up freedoms in order to "be protected", I offer below this channelled transcript regarding the Boston marathon bombing for your better understanding:

This is a channelled message on the 20th of April, 2013.

turiya

11th October 2014, 03:05

Wolfgang Halbig in NY October 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3QTCh3BLNE
Published on Oct 9, 2014
#Sandyhookhoax

turiya :cool:

Hervé

5th November 2014, 22:08

“Protecting our Children” in the Wake of Sandy Hook: Psychiatric Surveillance of US Public School Children (http://www.globalresearch.ca/protecting-our-children-in-the-wake-of-sandy-hook-psychiatric-surveillance-of-public-school-children/5411780)

By Prof. James F. Tracy (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/james-f-tracy) Global Research, November 04, 2014

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Using the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre as its justification, the Obama administration has recently given the psychiatric business and pharmaceutical industry a major gift by quietly introducing a behavioral and mental health program in public schools throughout the United States. The maneuver was initially laid out on January 16, 2013 in President Obama’s executive policy, Now is the Time: The President’s Plan to Protect Our Children and Our Communities by Reducing Gun Violence.

The document is partly devoted to articulating Obama’s proposed gun control measures that failed to move gain legislative traction in 2013. Yet an under-reported section of Now is the Time is applied to “making schools safer” and “improving mental health services” for students.[1] While presented by the Obama administration as “commonsense solutions to gun violence,“ one is left to consider the long range implications of such an initiative, particularly in light of the Affordable Care Act and the psychopharmaceutical complex’s never-ending drive to expand its clientele.

On September 22, 2014 Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia M. Burwell announced $99 million in new grants “to train new mental health providers, help teachers and others recognize mental health issues in youth and connect them to help and increase access to mental health services for young people.”[2]

On September 23 the Department of Education announced an additional $70 million in “School Climate Transformation grants.” According to the DOE, over half of the funding “will be used to develop, enhance, or expand systems of support for implementing evidence based, multi-tiered behavioral frameworks for improving behavioral outcomes and learning conditions.” The goals of such measures include “connecting children, youths, and families to appropriate services and supports,” and “increase[ing] measures of and the ability to respond to mental health issues among school-aged youth.”[3]

Both HHS and DOE explicitly cite Obama’s Now is the Time declaration as rationale for the new programs. “The administration is committed to increasing access to mental health services to protect the health of children and communities,” Secretary Burwell asserts. “If kids don’t feel safe, they can’t learn,” Secretary of Education Arne Duncan similarly remarks. “Through these grants of more than $70 million, we are continuing our commitment to ensure that kids have access to the best learning experience possible.”

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Of the DOE’s $70 million, $13 million is allocated to aiding school districts in creating “high-quality school emergency plans.” Another $14 million goes toward “Project Prevent grants” for violence-plagued schools to “be used for school-based counseling services, or referrals to community-based counseling services for assistance in coping with trauma or anxiety.”[4]

Such designs should be viewed in light of two related concerns that hint at broader motives and agendas: 1) the US government’s continued aggressive transformation of the healthcare system; 2) psychiatry and drug manufacturers’ shared mission to persuade an increasing segment of the national and global population that it has one or more undiagnosed mental or emotional “disorders” that require analysis and treatment.

Introducing psychiatric explanations and methodologies into school environments guarantees a growing customer base for the psychiatric profession and pharmaceutical industry. Alongside government’s increasing control of healthcare, the technocratic surveillance and management of everyday thought and behavior is likewise emerging as part of what is deceptively termed “wellness.” In reality such efforts ensure an ever-expanding bureaucracy, handsomely line the pockets of a select few, and further normalize a culture of learned helplessness and control within an environment that already privileges conformity as a matter of routine.

Between the early 1990s and mid 2000s antidepressant use in the US increased almost fourfold.[5] At present 20 percent of Americans take at least one psychotropic medication, a figure that at the present rate of expansion will double by the early 2020s. Yet there is little evidence such drugs actually address the symptoms psychiatric patients are advised they have.

Indeed, the entire notion of “biological psychiatry”–that psychiatric conditions are rooted in observable processes–cannot withstand serious scientific scrutiny. Yet such notions comprise the underlying rationale of psychopharmocology. As psychology professor Elliot Valenstein observes,
The belief that the complex cognitive and emotional states that underlie any emotional disorder are regulated by a single transmitter receptor subtype is probably no more valid than the idea held earlier by phrenologists who believed that complex mental attributes could be localized in one specific part of the brain.[6]
More recently, Dr. Richard Friedman, professor of clinical psychology at Weill Cornell Medical College, remarks, “[W]e don’t yet understand the fundamental cause of most psychiatric disorders, in part because the brain is uniquely difficult to study; you can’t just biopsy the brain and analyze it. That is why scientists have had great trouble identifying new targets for psychiatric drugs.”[7]

At present de facto behavioral examinations are administered by medical providers’ inquiring on a patient’s tobacco and alcohol intake. Yet psychiatry has been pushing for “mental health screenings” to ferret out clientele since the early 1990s. The fact that such mental health practices are being introduced throughout the nation’s schools suggests how they will likely become much more commonplace under in coming years.

“Absolutely, people should have a mental health checkup,” notes Dr. Jeffrey Borenstein, editor of the American Psychiatric Association’s [I]Psychiatric News. “It’s just as important as having a physical checkup.” Borenstein recommends the “P.H.Q.-9,” a “patient health questionnaire,” freely available online, as a preliminary assessment for determining mild-to-major “depressive disorder.” The P.H.Q-9 was designed with funding from Pfizer.[8]

Perhaps coincidentally, the HHS and DOE announced their mental health grants just two weeks before National Depression Screening Day on October 9th. The occasion for “mental health awareness” has been observed since the early 1990s by Screening for Mental Health, Inc., a nonprofit 501c(3) offering its own free online examination.

“People stop and they check in on their physical health but they don’t do the same with their mental health,” says Michelle Holmberg, director of programs at SMH. “In the same way you would get a blood pressure screening … why aren’t people stopping to do mental health screenings?”[9]

Saul Levin, the CEO and Medical Director of the American Psychiatric Association, sits on Screening for Mental Health’s board of directors. SMH received over $16 million in “gifts, grants, contributions, and membership fees” between 2008 and 2012, according to the organization’s 2012 federal tax return, suggesting backing from APA and like-minded stakeholders.

Corporate news media have thoroughly blacked out the Obama administration’s program that further transforms the nation’s public schools in to lucrative referral centers for big psychopharma. In contrast, most school shootings that have become routine throughout the US receive considerable publicity, yet almost no investigative work or follow-up from the same news outlets sensationalizing them.[10]

Alongside Obama’s mental health mandate, the coverage further anchors in the public mind the idea—however subtle—that practically all youth are potential time bombs that must be closely monitored and, where appropriate, defused. Such approaches only negate the possibility for achieving what they implicitly promise: the prospect for self realization within a genuine community of peers.

Notes

[1] Now is the Time: The President’s Plan to Protect Our Children and our Communities by Reducing Gun Violence (http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf) (PDF), January 16, 2013, Washington DC.

[2] U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, “HHS Announces $99 Million in New Grants to Improve Mental Health Services for Young People (http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2014pres/09/20140922a.html),” September 22, 2014, Washington DC.

[3] U.S. Department of Education, “U.S. Department of Education Invests More Than $70 Million to Improve School Climate and Keep Students Safe (http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/us-department-education-invests-more-70-million-improve-school-climate-and-keep-),” September 23, 2014.

[4] “U.S. Department of Education Invests More Than $70 Million.”

[5] Centers for Disease Control/National Center for Health Statistics, “Antidepressant Use in Persons Aged 12 and Over, 2005-2008 (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db76.pdf)”(PDF), October 2011.

[6] Elliot S. Valenstein, Blaming the Brain: The Truth About Drugs and Mental Health, New York: Free Press, 1998, 226.

[7] Richard A. Friedman, M.D., “A Dry Pipeline for Psychiatric Drugs (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/health/a-dry-pipeline-for-psychiatric-drugs.html),” New York Times, August 19, 2013.

[8] Ann Carrns, “A Regular Checkup is Good for the Mind as well as the Body (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/your-money/the-importance-of-regular-mental-health-checkups.html),” New York Times, November 13, 2012.

[9] Lindsay Holmes,” This Little Mental Health Screening Could Have a Big Impact When It Comes to Depression (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/national-depression-scree_n_5941302.html),” Huffington Post, October 9, 2014.

[10] No major Western news outlets have given serious attention to the Sandy Hook School massacre narrative’s many unanswered questions. In the more recent Isla Vista and Las Vegas shootings the investigating law enforcement agencies have refused to publicly release their reports on those incidents.

grannyfranny100

5th November 2014, 22:26

Aha, once again the government solution with a hidden purpose: lesser parental decision making and assistance, more government control on the upbringing of kids.

Hervé

8th November 2014, 23:46

Corroboration from Veterans Today:

Twists and Turns: Major Sandy Hook motive emerges/Wolfgang forced off the road
(http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/08/twists-and-turns-major-sandy-hook-motive-emergeswolfgang-forced-off-the-road/)
by Jim Fetzer (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/)

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Kaitlyn-Roig-tells-her-story-204x320.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Kaitlyn-Roig-tells-her-story.jpg)
Kaitlyn Roig telling a tall tale

“Using the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre as its justification, the Obama administration has recently given the psychiatric business and pharmaceutical industry a major gift by quietly introducing a behavioral and mental health program in public schools throughout the United States”–James Tracy

Several significant developments confirm that we are on the track to exposing the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about Sandy Hook, including new information that appears to expose the motive behind the hoax.

One is that Wolfgang Halbig, the Forida State Trooper, former school principal and national school safety expert was warned that he was “irritating” some powerful people during a 30-minute phone call last Monday, 3 November 2014.

In a classic scene right from a Hollywood thriller, he was forced off the road by a black SUV as he returned from Olive Garden with take-out for him and his wife, scattering the salad and Italian crusine throughout his own vehicle.

Nathan Folks, the Hollywood producer/director who observed that one of the players in Boston was an actor he had cast in one of his own films and that what was taking place there is known as “hyper-realistic filming”, in which scenes are made as realistic as possible (to condition green troops as to what they might experience in combat), mentioned Wolf’s experience on “Info Wars’ Nightly News” (Thursday, 6 November 2014) (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/08/twists-and-turns-major-sandy-hook-motive-emergeswolfgang-forced-off-the-road/www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xZYbUONb1M) as follows (the 2nd hour):

(Starts at 28:25 -- Ebola staged hoax at 36:20)
5xZYbUONb1M
YouTube - Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xZYbUONb1M)
Unbelievable as it may sound, today we spoke and he told me that black SUVs were surrounding his building, which was a cause for alarm. When we spoke later and I asked, “Did the SWAT team arrive?”, he told me that they had kept it to letting him know he was under surveillance, using the same car and the same observer to make it easy for him to recognize what was going on. Welcome to the new, totalitarian United States under Barack Obama!

A major motive emerges
A major motive appears to have been exposed by James Tracy, “’Protecting our Children’ in the Wake of Sandy Hook: Psychiatric Surveillance of US Public School Children”, Global Research (4 November 2014) (http://www.globalresearch.ca/protecting-our-children-in-the-wake-of-sandy-hook-psychiatric-surveillance-of-public-school-children/5411780). As Tracy explains, the Administration has used Sandy Hook to justify a massive new program of behavioral and mental health in public schools, which is going to mandate a billion dollar bonanza at taxpayer expense. As he lays it out in the article,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3XrtBf2qCls/VF1PfJgiQBI/AAAAAAAACrk/zsDQTWL3CIM/s640/From%2BTracy%27s%2Barticle.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3XrtBf2qCls/VF1PfJgiQBI/AAAAAAAACrk/zsDQTWL3CIM/s1600/From%2BTracy)

Bear in mind that the event at Sandy Hook took place on 14 December 2012, while Obama was authorizing this new program on 16 January 2013, which is slight more than one month later. Only a nit would fail to appreciate that complex programs like this require substantial study, research and planning, which suggest that this program was not inspired by Sandy Hook but that Sandy Hook was inspired by this program–to serve as its launching pad!
On September 22, 2014 Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia M. Burwell announced $99 million in new grants “to train new mental health providers, help teachers and others recognize mental health issues in youth and connect them to help and increase access to mental health services for young people.”

On September 23 the Department of Education announced an additional $70 million in “School Climate Transformation grants.” According to the DOE, over half of the funding “will be used to develop, enhance, or expand systems of support for implementing evidence based, multi-tiered behavioral frameworks for improving behavioral outcomes and learning conditions.” The goals of such measures include “connecting[ing] children, youths, and families to appropriate services and supports,” and “increase[ing] measures of and the ability to respond to mental health issues among school-aged youth.”

Both HHS and DOE explicitly cite Obama’s Now is the Time declaration as rationale for the new programs. “The administration is committed to increasing access to mental health services to protect the health of children and communities,” Secretary Burwell asserts. “If kids don’t feel safe, they can’t learn,” Secretary of Education Arne Duncan similarly remarks. “Through these grants of more than $70 million, we are continuing our commitment to ensure that kids have access to the best learning experience possible.”
When there are billions to be made, time cannot wait. So the Department of Education–officials of which had confirmed to LA school safety expert, Paul Preston, that Sandy Hook had been a drill and no children had died (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/13/sandy-hook-redux-obama-officials-confirm-that-it-was-a-drill-and-no-children-died/)–are moving aggressively to insure that taxpayer’s money is efficiently disbursed to the right private entities at the earliest possible opportunity. Beyond undermining support for the 2nd amendment, Sandy Hook was designed to create an artifical demand for a product that otherwise would have no market.

“GoFundMe” letter of complaint
Wolfgang has recently obtained the letter of complaint that led to the cancellation of his GoFundMe account. It begins by committing the classic fallacy of begging the question by taking for granted that there was a real “terrible tragic mass shooting in 2012″ that resulted in the deaths of 20 young children and 6 adults, when all the evidence is against it. But it also plays off the popular sentiments fallacy, where the inference is drawn that, simply because most people believe something to be true, it must be true, which is frequently committed in this case.

Had Brad Damphouse and Andy Ballester simply forwarded the complaint to Wolfgang BEFORE DELETING HIS ACCOUNT and given him the opportunity to respond, the overwhelming proof should have been enough to convince them, including that the school was closed by 2008 (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/15/sandy-hook-elementary-school-closed-in-2008-a-stage-in-2012/), that there was no evacuation of nearly 500 students and 75 staff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/08/a-sampler-of-sandy-hook-videos-pick-and-choose-your-favorite/), that the “iconic” Shannon Hicks’ photograph was staged (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/24/shannon-hicks-denies-staging-her-fake-iconic-sandy-hook-photograph/), and that the “final report” does not establish a causal nexus connecting the alleged shooter to his weapons or the victims he is said to have killed (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/28/sandy-hook-stephen-sedensky-william-shanley-and-the-elaborate-hoax/):
An Open Letter to the CEO & CTO of GoFundMe.com
An Open Letter to:
Brad Damphousse – CO-FOUNDER & CEO
Andy Ballester – CO-FOUNDER & CTO
GoFundMe.com

Gentlemen:
I am reaching out you on behalf of the Sandy Hook, Ct community. As you probably already know the Sandy Hook community suffered a terrible tragic mass shooting in 2012 resulting in the deaths of 20 young children and 6 adults.

What you may not know is that in the wake of this tragedy a series of alarming developments have unfolded as many of the victim’s families, first-responders, witnesses and community members have experienced serious incidences of harassment, threats and accusations at the hands of a loosely knit group of internet based conspiracy theorists. Memorials have been defaced and stolen. Parents who lost children on that day have received harassing phone calls accusing them of being actors – claiming their children never existed.

On October 1, 2014 the line was crossed when a bomb scare was called into Sandy Hook Elementary School, forcing children and teachers who are still suffering from post-traumatic stress to evacuate the building.
I am bringing this to your attention because you may not be aware that your organization is helping to fund these attacks.

Currently, your organization is running a funding campaign for Mr. Wolfgang Halbig. Mr. Halbig is at the center of the proliferation of a fraudulent campaign to slander, defame and, in an indirect way, threaten our community through the dissemination of conspiracy theories associated with our tragedy. Every attempt has been made to reason with Mr. Halbig. One brave parent even traveled to Florida to present him with the proof of birth and death of his son. Mr. Halbig refuses to accept any evidence – and continues to spread known lies about our community. And now he seeks to profit off these falsehoods. This is the very definition of fraud.

It is our opinion that this violates the terms of your user agreement. But it additionally makes you an accessory to the fraud if you enable Mr. Halbig to continue to profit off of a campaign of proven lies. I would implore you to consider the ramifications of this, and not test our resolve.

In the wake of the bomb scare of October 1st the Sandy Hook community is preparing to take legal action against those who would seek to defame, slander, harass, stalk or endanger our community. As we have limited resources we would hope to be able to resolve this with your organization without resorting to legal remedies. Our resources would be better spent going directly after the perpetrators of these crimes. So it is our hope that your organization will fully review this matter and make a determination that Mr. Halbig’s account should immediately be terminated with no funds distributed towards his cause.

But beyond the legal ramifications, we simply ask you to act in the name of common decency. We believe that you will make the right choice and choose to stand with the Sandy Hook community.

And lastly, beyond removing this offending content, any additional ideas or resources you may be able to suggest or provide to us in helping us to combat this threat would be greatly appreciated. We can use all the help we can get.

Respectfully,
SHDG
—
Lois Dial
Dial & Associates PC
505 S. Villa Real Drive Suite 205
Anaheim Hills, CA 92807
714 279-8055 Extension 105 FAX 714 279-8052
www.dialaw.com (http://www.dialaw.com)
http://reviews.reviewmanagement.com/dial-associates-pc-142556088
Indeed, over and beyond the points I have already made, the FBI Consolidated Crime Report for 2012 shows no murders in Newtown during 2012 (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/26/sandy-hook-no-murders-in-newtown-in-2012-the-power-hour-and-alex-jones-interviews/), which raises the presumption that there were no murders in Newtown during 2012, a report that is confirmed by Connecticut’s own crime report, but where the authorities attempted to obfuscate the data by a sleight-of-hand. (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/28/sandy-hook-ct-crime-data-confirms-fbi-report-but-something-is-still-wrong-2/) We now have ten new proofs that vitiate the official account, in addition to the original ten proofs that Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax. It might be a good idea for those who manage GoFundMe to act more responsibly and with less haste.

The never ending story
Here is an interview with one Kaitlyn Roig, who claims to have been a teacher who saved her children–15 in number, aged 6 and 7–into a tiny bathroom, which strains credulity. Listen to what she has to say. Reports have it that she has been making $10-15,000 fees for speaking the public about the trauma of Sandy Hook, which turns out to be benefitting the community and the players with “big bucks”, where more than $27,000,000 has been donated and a $50,000,000 grant from the state to build a new K-4 school on the old site (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/16/threats-and-bribes-used-to-suppress-information-about-sandy-hook-as-gun-control-moves-forward/), even though the national average for such a school averages only $7,000,000:

YouTube - Veterans Today - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRt6L_Jeu6k)

Occasionally, there is a minor breakthrough, such as this comment I was able to post when a Connecticut news channel published a story about the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission (http://wtnh.com/2014/10/24/sandy-hook-advisory-commission-meets/), which has spent no time on verifying the facts about what happened on 14 December 2012 and all its time on developing an elaborate agenda for new mental health programs for students in the state, which appears to be implementing the new bonanza for “Big Pharma” and the psychiatric industry, which is reminiscent of the old Soviet Union, where critics of the government were declared “mentally ill” and then institutionalized.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/NEWS8-Report-558x640.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/NEWS8-Report.jpg)
Click here to visit the NEWS8 Report and review the comments for yourself. (http://wtnh.com/2014/10/24/sandy-hook-advisory-commission-meets/)

As a former Marine Corps officer, a retired professor and a journalist and editor for Veterans Today, I have published 33 articles on Sandy Hook, where, in collaboration with three other professors and experts, such as Wolfgang Halbig, a national school safety authority, we have established:

(1) that Sandy Hook Elementary School had been abandoned by 2008, where we have extensive video footage, both inside and out and, where, among other points, it was not even ADA compliant;

(2) that DASHCAM footage shows no evacuation of nearly 500 children, where the official claim is that 489 students were there, which means 469 needed evacuation, not to mention the 75 staff;

(3) that the lone photo that appears to show the opposite was staged, where we have a second showing parents with arms crossed watching and the kids being rearranged for “the best shot”;

(4) that the official account of the shooting by Danbury States’ Attorney Stephen Sedensky does not connect the alleged shooter with his purported victims or with the weapons he is said to have used.

Obama Department of Education confirmed to Los Angeles school safety expert Paul Preston that it had been a drill and no children died. The FBI’s Consolidated Crime Report for 2012 shows the number of murders in Newton as 0 (as in none). Even the Connecticut State crime report shows no children below the age of 10 had died there–but tried to cover it up with a sleight-of-hand.

References:
“Sandy Hook Redux: Obama officials confirm that it was a drill and no children died” (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/13/sandy-hook-redux-obama-officials-confirm-that-it-was-a-drill-and-no-children-died/) (13 June 2014)
“Sandy Hook: Ten more proofs that vitiate the official account” (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/03/sandy-hook-ten-more-proofs-that-vitiate-the-official-account/) (3 September 2012)
“Sandy Hook: CT crime data confirms FBI report” (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/28/sandy-hook-ct-crime-data-confirms-fbi-report-but-something-is-still-wrong-2/) (28 September 2014)

From Russia, with love
It has been said that “The past is prologue”. It would appear that the totalitarians who are running the DHS and FEMA have developed plans to deal with critics of the government (9/11 and 7/7 Truthers, among others), which not only include demonizing them (as has been done by UK PM David Cameron (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/03/uk-pm-declares-911-and-77-truthers-must-be-dealt-with-as-harshly-as-isis/) and a Canadian reporter, (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/28/truthers-as-terrorists-who-are-the-terrorists-today/) who has introduced the phrase, “terrorists truthers”) but by adopting the model and practice of the Soviet Union by institutionalizing them. I therefore believe the Beatles were prescient in composing, “Back in the USSR”, by carrying the theme to “Back in the US, back in the US, back in the USSR”.

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Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth.