The Energetic

[Fred Steeves]

Most of these tragic events we are seeing are rituals, and I want to publicly thank 9Eagle9 for teaching me that, in her own special way.(LOL) Hurricane Sandy I feel opened some sort of dimensional door, allowing access of unspeakable dark forces into this realm. This school shooting is likely a logical continuation of that. Can you "feel" that presence?

The thoughts and emotions of the general public are being played like a fine Stradivarius violin, but so are we, if we are not extremely watchful. It's all a matter of degrees, as above so below. The general public is being helplessly tossed about on the high seas of Problem, Reaction, Solution, but what seas are WE being tossed about on as well?

A good example of that lies with myself, at this very moment. New York City's little tin pot dictator Michael Bloomberg is live on the news right now, shamelessly and pompously demagoguing the school shooting, and I notice myself beginning to boil with rage, once again that is... I expect many of you are nodding your heads, and know exactly what I'm talking about.

But here's the thing, although most of us here have thankfully moved beyond being ruled by Problem, Reaction, Solution, the matrix still has us when we become engulfed and enraged, just by the mere spectacle of this age old dog and pony show. It takes us off our game so to speak, because we carry here our own energetic, a very powerful one at that, and when this energy becomes unbalanced, it only feeds into the unbalance already present. We are actually feeding that which we despise in those moments.

Successfully navigating through these times is going to require a cool head, and an open heart. Anything less and it's game over. But, here's another thing. This dark energetic frolicking freely about, is utterly incapable of looking Truth in the eye, just the thought of it is terrifying. The actual power it has is miniscule in comparison, it's all illusion, just like the shadows in Plato's cave.

So while it is of course vital to keep ourselves informed as to the evil we are surrounded by, and what it's up to, no matter how horrible, gut wrenching, and heart breaking it is, we need to keep a certain....Hmmm, you know what? I think Roman described it best in one of his recent threads, so I'll close by letting him say it, as only he can. "The Stance".

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[lightseeker]

Well done Fred, I see many terrible events taking place everyday. I am deeply sadden by what is happening, but I have learned through my meditation practices to remain grounded and at peace. This took many along time, like a few years. Every once in a while I will find myself very angered at the mindless stupidity that manifests through violent action. I lose my centre for a while, but it also teaches me that I am human and my heart is deeply saddened when I see the carnage taking place around the world. I regain my centre, and know in my heart that this kind of service to self behavior gone amuck IS coming to an end.

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[Fred Steeves]

I'm wondering what affect a group of awake and aware people could have on this energy, by simply gathering together, looking at it, and "seeing" it for what it is.

[enfoldedblue]

Hi Fred,

Thanks for sharing...as usual I agree with you OP :) . I believe this situation triggers an innate sense of unconscious guilt in people. And many people feel that the only way to alleviate the guilt a bit is by ‘hooking in’ to the event and the people involved.

Personally I have attempted to keep a distance from this event. I have no television so this is possible for me to do to a certain extent. Of course I am not an island so I have seen bits and pieces of this tragedy. When I read the line about the police officer telling the parents waiting outside that there was no one left inside alive...I felt an incredible sadness, imagining the horror of hearing those words. But I could feel myself getting sucked into the drama, so I quickly pulled out and returned to nurturing love in my little world. Some might see this as selfish or uncaring, but for me it is the best thing I can do for both myself and the collective.

That is what I believe this event is really about. It is about tapping into the unconscious guilt. People feel that they need to be identifying and sharing in this tragedy....sadness, anger, outrage... in order to be ‘good’ people. However what is really occurring is that by hooking into this horrible event people are being distracted from their own personal inner processes, at just the time when there is great opportunity to enact profound transformation within.

To those involved I send deep love. To those surrounding those involved I send deep love. To those watching who have zero ability to affect those immediately involved I suggest pulling out of this dark pit that was created in our collective to lower our vibration, and focus on love and healing of all that is within your sphere of influence.

Edit* just noticed your thought directly above...hmmm I'm not sure what my thoughts on that are yet :)

[modwiz]

A little memory refreshing time. A few days before Sandy hit NYC, there was the murder of the children by the nanny of the executive who was tied to the release of some news regarding a 43 trillion dollar lawsuit that was quickly pulled from view. We can forget the exec, but not the black magic involved to help a sputtering Sandy coming up the East Coast. They changed the name to Superstorm Sandy because many people, like me, were watching the radar ans ocean buoys and observed no real eye and no hurricane gusts for days being recorded from buoys sitting in the middle, or periphery of the storm. The weather service lied to us for days. Changing the nomenclature to superstorm covered their ass. It was big, so they could not be made to look like liars with their new term.

A day before the murders, 9eagle told me of dark, voodoo/santeria type energies tied up with Sandy. The following day, throats were slit and the offering made.

Thanks to Sleepy for another piece. We had Sandy and now the Sandy hook. Ya gonna bite?

So, if we can help Fred and use these bits to create a focus, to fit some of the jig saw puzzle together perhaps all of our cleverness can result in something. If nothing else we are working together and being creative in positive ways. The positive energy is really good ju-ju against what is brewing for the 21st from the worshipers of Lucifer. The morning star. Another name for Venus, whose day is Friday (Frigga's Day, Viernes).

The 21st is a Friday, Sandy Hook was on Friday. Aurora was on Friday 7/20, as well. Sandy is short for Sandra which has an interpretation, (Taken from childrens naming book) of "unheeded prophetess". This hearkens to the prophetess Cassandra who predicted the fall of Troy and was unheeded. Sandra also has some tie in with Alexander (the great). Hmm, magic, seers, and conquering the known world.

I'll take a break now and let other get in on this.

Let the dead bury their own.

[DeDukshyn]

I am in full agreement with Fred and Modwiz on this ... I think what we need are some energy experts (or plain volunteers ;))... perhaps we could try to nullify whatever effect they think will be having with these rituals for next Friday ... for some reason, (and I have no clue if the Mayan date has anything to do with this but I suspect so), it appears that this solstice will be seeing much bigger rituals than some from the past.

I plan on meditating that day and absorbing all negative energies that may be being released by the Satanists in their rituals and transmuting it into peace. It doesn't require fancy rituals like the Satanists use -- but it does require a lot of intention, visualization and "feeling" the accomplishment.

If there are any others out there that can contribute to this effort, I think it will be very helpful. I'm not expert in understanding these areas but I have seen the results of my own work -- It is less complicated than one might think. ;)

My 2 cents ;)

[DeDukshyn]

Hi Fred,

Thanks for sharing...as usual I agree with you OP :) . I believe this situation triggers an innate sense of unconscious guilt in people. And many people feel that the only way to alleviate the guilt a bit is by ‘hooking in’ to the event and the people involved.

Personally I have attempted to keep a distance from this event. I have no television so this is possible for me to do to a certain extent. Of course I am not an island so I have seen bits and pieces of this tragedy. When I read the line about the police officer telling the parents waiting outside that there was no one left inside alive...I felt an incredible sadness, imagining the horror of hearing those words. But I could feel myself getting sucked into the drama, so I quickly pulled out and returned to nurturing love in my little world. Some might see this as selfish or uncaring, but for me it is the best thing I can do for both myself and the collective.

That is what I believe this event is really about. It is about tapping into the unconscious guilt. People feel that they need to be identifying and sharing in this tragedy....sadness, anger, outrage... in order to be ‘good’ people. However what is really occurring is that by hooking into this horrible event people are being distracted from their own personal inner processes, at just the time when there is great opportunity to enact profound transformation within.

To those involved I send deep love. To those surrounding those involved I send deep love. To those watching who have zero ability to affect those immediately involved I suggest pulling out of this dark pit that was created in our collective to lower our vibration, and focus on love and healing of all that is within your sphere of influence.

Edit* just noticed your thought directly above...hmmm I'm not sure what my thoughts on that are yet :)

Not giving it any energy is far better than looking at it and feeling any negativity towards it. It is this negative energy that is their currency. It may also be helpful to send love and whatever possible energy to the masses who may be overly susceptible to adding fear to this process, afterall -- it is mostly the masses energies they are trying to harvest to channel into their rituals. (disclaimer -- I am not an expert on Satanic rituals ;))

[enfoldedblue]

It's funny that you used the word currency because I was just formulating my thoughts on what you and modwiz had wrote and what came up was that focusing on "stopping this energy' is still playing their game...just the other side of the same coin....and what I was going to say was maybe we should start focusing on a new 'currency' instead :)

[DeDukshyn]

It's funny that you used the word currency because I was just formulating my thoughts on what you and modwiz had wrote and what came up was that focusing on "stopping this energy' is still playing their game...just the other side of the same coin....and what I was going to say was maybe we should start focusing on a new 'currency' instead :)

All well and good! Maybe focus on this new currency completely replacing their currency of fear! There are many ways to contribute and each just takes a bit of imagination. I would agree that "opposing" it is not the best method and may be detrimental. I chose the words "absorb" and "transmute" for good reason! ;)

[Beren]

Stance or stand your ground is the equilibrium.
Meaning don`t get hooked on no matter which or what kind of energy is trying to move you on.
With Love as THE energy- it`s not a hooking one, it`s the life moving one. You don`t have to have a stance or to stand your ground.
You be the Love and suddenly there is not box or a room where you have to have the equilibrium in order to function.

In Love or Love powered you dissolve the box illusion and go to question the one who is making a box for you.
You question the one who is throwing an energy of hook to you.

There is no technique of how to BE Love.
It`s a personal decision to live it. To be something means to have full experience of something.

Choose to be Love ,to live it and miracles will be your normal occurrences.
Tough for a doubting mind to accept this but one who lives Love has not doubts.

"Move the mountain"
...or stand still...doesn`t matter- you`re living Love.

Can`t we see finally that it was always up to this?
Everything comes against us to water down our own understanding and not do the greatest magic of all, in fact beyond magic.
All their power lies in summoning the dark magic negative energy, be it in spirits or alien influence.
Simultaneously they are trying so hard to lead astray us to not turn around to Love as THE energy.
They counsel us by media and everything they can that we try this weapon against dark, that weapon, techniques of this warfare in spirit of that one, invoking some lesser energies to help and such. Anger and revolt are their tools.

But all this time the main weapon of ours is in our very choice - BE Love.
Now!
Daily!
In every thought!

And see how their world falls apart as the very heart of darkness is being pierced by light of Love.

I hope that people will understand of what I speak of.

[Fred Steeves]

So as I'm working through this myself, there is nothing to fear of course, but there IS something to "do". Maybe that's why we are here and now, just for this occasion. There is no fight, only something to resolve.

[Tane Mahuta]

Merry Christmas Fred

robbie

[modwiz]

It's funny that you used the word currency because I was just formulating my thoughts on what you and modwiz had wrote and what came up was that focusing on "stopping this energy' is still playing their game...just the other side of the same coin....and what I was going to say was maybe we should start focusing on a new 'currency' instead :)

This is very much about currents, current events and currency. Now if the ocean of humanity can just form some coherency and reverse current, certain trouble makers would be dead in the water.

On the 21st, the Sun stands still and enters the Sign of Capricorn the Sea Goat. Also the sign of Chronos, the Grim reaper/Death and structure. Saturn greatly affects business. The omens and energies point to no ordinary Solstice. Regardless of calendars. Mayan or otherwise. I do not know if there has ever been greater focus on something big happening on a particular day in human history. The internet has woven us into a huge planetary drama. That much energy and focus, even just looking, portends something with earth changing potential. It remains to see how potent that potential is. The potential for great good is there. It can all change in an instant. The kingdom of heaven is at hand. It always has been. Like anything at hand, it must be grasped to be brought into action. Into being.

[enfoldedblue]

Nice. We seem to all really be on the same page. To me we are basically all saying... don’t get hooked into the drama and the fear that surrounds it. Love is the answer.

We will each have our own way of expressing the energy of love. There is no right way or wrong way, as long as love is the guiding force we will be playing our parts perfectly.

[Fred Steeves]

That much energy and focus, even just looking, portends something with earth changing potential. It remains to see how potent that potential is. The potential for great good is there. It can all change in an instant. The kingdom of heaven is at hand. It always has been. Like anything at hand, it must be grasped to be brought into action. Into being.

The way I see it Rad, the kingdom of hell is also at hand. As always, the choice of what is experienced lies with the individual.

[DeDukshyn]

That much energy and focus, even just looking, portends something with earth changing potential. It remains to see how potent that potential is. The potential for great good is there. It can all change in an instant. The kingdom of heaven is at hand. It always has been. Like anything at hand, it must be grasped to be brought into action. Into being.

The way I see it Rad, the kingdom of hell is also at hand. As always, the choice of what is experienced lies with the individual.

Exactly how I imagined it from a child ... what if suddenly everyone's thoughts and fears manifested?? I have dreamt of this as well, I had to watch many running in horror and fear be eaten alive by giant insects that crawled from the ground ... while the "peaceful" of us had to maintain that peace ... or be eaten alive. Of course this is just a dramatic metaphor that came to me in a dream -- but it was more than that it had two messages for me --- what you fear manifests, and maintaining peace during times of chaos is of utmost importance.

Two lessons from that "dream" I hold dear to my heart to this day ... Beren's post above explains it all well. Love is the only real expression of value.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I agree with Fred about the dark energy - yes it is there, and yes I can sense it as well. Yet.... I am a teacher and I work at an elementary school. On Monday, most teachers simply confirmed that they had NOT watched any news coverage of the event, on principle, over the weekend... we all agreed to see how the children would respond, and at every grade level- they said nothing! I teach fifth grade and my students did not really even register the event. It was water off a ducks back. They were much more focused on the prospect of snow. We spend yesterday and today making Christmas books of art and poetry for parents and singing/playing Christmas music. They are forces of light. They lead me by example. This may be a "battle" from the perspective of the Dark Ones, but they have already been "defeated". Peace.

[modwiz]

That much energy and focus, even just looking, portends something with earth changing potential. It remains to see how potent that potential is. The potential for great good is there. It can all change in an instant. The kingdom of heaven is at hand. It always has been. Like anything at hand, it must be grasped to be brought into action. Into being.

The way I see it Rad, the kingdom of hell is also at hand. As always, the choice of what is experienced lies with the individual.

I think we grasped that one awhile ago. Now, as we form lines and head towards the light at the exit, those who ruled our hell are losing it. Literally and figuratively. We don't want to fight them because we don't have to. This is about hearing a new song and releasing our chains. We were never really shackled, We were gripping our own chains, fearful of letting go because we did not trust ourselves to be able to do this ourselves. We looked for leaders to take us to the exit, when it has been in clear sight all along. They will wail and gnash their teeth as we simply abandon them and the hell they led us into.

This is a critical mass moment. In the next few days, this sandy hook event has the potential unravel while the world witnesses it. The once omnipotent leaders look scared, uncertain and impotent. Capable of a tantrum or two more. They may be yet have one more horrific event to perpetrate on us and it will only awaken more instead of cower them as intended.

I can see an outcome. You know about probable realities Fred. There is one that needs just a little more focus and it will be the new consensus reality. Good people, and magicians are people too, have no choice but to hold a bright vision of the future for humanity. This is like a see saw. It will take just a bit more to shift everything over.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I guess personally, I am just confused with the direction lately that we as a whole are heading in. I have lost alot of spirit recently, and things like these dots beiong joined, which I used to clearly see, or at least understand, seem to be a long stretch or just seem downright silly.
And I am still wrapping my head around the whole ideas behind this being a front for sacrifice and rituals, by those engaging in dark arts.

I struggle also to understand why the focus is most often than not is on the U.S.A. What makes this area so much more 'powerful' than the rest of the planet?
It bothers me the amount of focus the world has, almost a romantic relationship with the US. Why is it so special?

[Wind]

Fred, you always seem to say out loud what most of us think. You have a way with words, keep it up mate! ;)

I have to detach myself energetically from events like this not because I don't care, but because I care too much. I am highly emphatic. I don't want to give my energy to these energetic vampires... I try meditate more and keep myself in balance so that I am able to just feel unconditional love towards everyone, no matter what happens. I have a vision of positive future in my mind & heart. Love always prevails, always.

[gooty64]

Well PVM, ask Eckhart Tolle why he moved over here 10+ years ago, for one. The best and worst of modern society or the PTB BS happens here and I am not proud of it and most of it leans towards the worst.

I guess personally, I am just confused with the direction lately that we as a whole are heading in. I have lost alot of spirit recently, and things like these dots beiong joined, which I used to clearly see, or at least understand, seem to be a long stretch or just seem downright silly.
And I am still wrapping my head around the whole ideas behind this being a front for sacrifice and rituals, by those engaging in dark arts.

I struggle also to understand why the focus is most often than not is on the U.S.A. What makes this area so much more 'powerful' than the rest of the planet?
It bothers me the amount of focus the world has, almost a romantic relationship with the US. Why is it so special?

[gripreaper]

The energy of this thread drew me here right before I was to retire for the night, and I must say, it is palatable. Fred, from your heart this came through, very heartfelt and very deep.


That is what I believe this event is really about. It is about tapping into the unconscious guilt. People feel that they need to be identifying and sharing in this tragedy....sadness, anger, outrage... in order to be ‘good’ people. However what is really occurring is that by hooking into this horrible event people are being distracted from their own personal inner processes, at just the time when there is great opportunity to enact profound transformation within.

Enfoldedblue, the same deep resonance, only it’s building in me.


So, if we can help Fred and use these bits to create a focus, to fit some of the jig saw puzzle together perhaps all of our cleverness can result in something. If nothing else we are working together and being creative in positive ways. The positive energy is really good ju-ju against what is brewing for the 21st from the worshipers of Lucifer. The morning star. Another name for Venus, whose day is Friday (Frigga's Day, Viernes).

Yes modwiz, the energy has arrived and it is coming in loud and clear. This is as clear as anything I have ever read from you here at Avalon, and I’ve been around for two years. It's very heartfelt.


I plan on meditating that day and absorbing all negative energies that may be being released by the Satanists in their rituals and transmuting it into peace. It doesn't require fancy rituals like the Satanists use -- but it does require a lot of intention, visualization and "feeling" the accomplishment.

Man, I am blessed to sit with ya’ll tonight. The ripples of energy moving through the matrix, which we are “all in” by the way, are touching just about every nerve in the collective, as well as having all of our chakras here in this thread spinning like tops, wide open. It hard to stop the emotion of this energy from moving right into sadness, and I can assure you, it has. And that is good for us to absorb some of these ripples and waves to keep us grounded in the collective. The Energy coming from the Archons feels dirty and filthy and has too many tones and timbres for me to conceptualize. All I can do is run it through my heart chakra and then let it go back out into the collective. I don’t know how else to filter it right now.


So as I'm working through this myself, there is nothing to fear of course, but there IS something to "do". Maybe that's why we are here and now, just for this occasion. There is no fight, only something to resolve.

Yea, ya know Fred, there is something. As all things spiral in the matrix, and for the inertia of this lower terrestrial astral energy to bounce off the polarities, it had to be very explosive. Right now, the energy which modwiz is talking about is the one we need to transmute first. Looking at it in duality, it’s nasty, but how does it look transmuted and brought into unity with its opposite from the celestial chakras?


I do not know if there has ever been greater focus on something big happening on a particular day in human history.

There hasn’t modwiz, at least not for 26,000 years, regardless of the 2012 BS and the attempted hijacking of this pure energy coming in; it is the sweetest energy I’ve ever tasted. That’s what we can focus on together and creates a ripple to send back through the matrix. Who says we can’t create enough inertia to perturb all of that Archonic crap. Why not? That energy is so dark. They’re “goin for it” as far as I can see.

I don’t have a symbol or an archetype for it, or a context to explain it to my lower mind yet, but I feel it. This is very important that we do this shift, as in, if not us, then who? This is Avalon, this is where the pure energy eats and sleeps, where it comes out, where it gets focused and transmuted through the heart. I don’t know anywhere else I can gather and hold a frequency with others except here. Hate to say that, but it’s true.

But the clean side of this energy that is “coming in” IT Needs to be focused too. I’ll bring it to this thread. There's a lot of heart in here right now. Let’s hold it here.

We need to stand for the children. I'm saying to the Archon's, that's enough. This is the last straw when you gun down our children. You are showing your true colors to the whole world, and people are "seeing" it. No thing, nothing is to be hidden in the game anymore? It's all to come out into the light of day?

I say, bring it on. I'm going to speak my truth and stand in the purest energy I can find, and I'm going to transmute anything you can throw at the collective cause you can't touch me. That's right, you know not how to enter the ananda brahma of creation, for the one Nayama before you can enter is: "I will strive to be harmless to myself and all life." So, it's safe in here and you can't get in.

I don't know if the picture to hold in my minds eye is a timeline for the future, but when I hold the image of a child in my minds eye, I feel more peace.

[AwakeInADream]

I think that fear is simply the absence of love, so love is totally the answer!

In a way I wish I had never seen this terrible news, but I wonder, would closing my eyes and not watching any news at all
be any kind of solution? Would this stop me from being used in the ritual?
Or should we watch the news with detachment, sending love where needed?

I used to get so angry at TPTB, but that doesn't help anybody, so these days I just try to think about them less
and focus on nurturing a loving attitude within myself. That's all I feel I can do.

[ROMANWKT]

Fred, you always seem say out loud what most of us think. You have a way with words, keep it up mate! ;)

I have to detach myself energetically from events like this not because I don't care, but because I care too much. I am highly emphatic. I don't want to give my energy to these energetic vampires... I try meditate more and keep myself in balance so that I am able to just feel unconditional love towards everyone, no matter what happens. I have a vision of positive future in my mind & heart. Love always prevails, always.

I relate to this answer for myself that you have given starseed, I get dreadful knots in my gut, and have to release it constantly, I don't live in a box, but from that stance I see everything, the whole package, as I don't attach myself to any, that allows to see all, its a heavy burden and has to be released.

The media make us participate in the events that they put out, you don't ignore it, but you don't participate, you don't participate in the overhaul consensus, its the consensus that has to be broken, not them, without our consensus, they are nowhere and powerless.

Its a very sad week, and it affects everybody, let it go, but see it for what it is.

Regards

roman

[Fred Steeves]

So much good input and energy here, I'm most honored to be amongst the fine people of Avalon. I bite my lip and hold my breath when posting stuff like this, because it feels like it could so easily lead directly to ridicule, but I have learned to trust that inner voice when it says "do it!" Besides, if you can't say this stuff here, then where CAN you say it?

So there seems to be no disagreement that there are two diametrically opposed energies in play here at this time. Personally speaking anyway, there is the one that when I have the gumption to really take a close look at, fills me with the urge to double over and wretch violently. Then there is the other which simply reminds me that all is well. What's tricky about this, is that I can't get away from the deep meaning behind the ying and yang symbol, it takes the combination of both light and dark to be complete.

Obviously no one here on this thread associates with the dark side, but that doesn't mean it is not an integral part of us none the less. My strong suspicion is that we have been there and done that already, and have completed that aspect of the experience. It was most painful. I also strongly suspect that we have been there done that with the light side, and have also completed that experience. It was also most painful. Now the task that lies before us, is to complete the balancing of those two experiences.

The extreme of either way results in complete and utter failure, only the "middle way" works, to invoke a little basic Buddhism. So the question then becomes, how is this done? We can't simply condone child sacrifice, nor can we float off into airy fairy land. So here's another strong suspicion. That when the time is right, it will become laughingly self evident how this is "done". We will simply do it.

A small caveat to finish with. I'm still torn whether this is a collective experience, or an individual one. After initially leaning totally to the collective side, it's now more and more to the individual side. Dunno though, jury's still out. Maybe both, who the hell knows...(LOL)

Cheers,
Fred

[PurpleLama]

The aethers have been eating my posts, today, boy howdy.

OK, try again.
I've been speaking loosley to this topic, in ulli's thread, since last night, and I'll snag a post and drop it here, speaking a little more directly to the point, but there's more up there if anyone wishes to see....

There are some very good people who practice the old ways, as it were, and knowing some of these, and what they do and carry, is part of the reason I don't worry as much about the powers that be, and the magical manipulations they attempt. They are using other people's power, because they've lost their own. 9eagle had a bit to say about that, and Mod's remark in another thread prompted me to make that statement a few pages back, about hanging in there. It's not many of us who can hear of these tragedies and not be moved to participate as a giver of energy, for it's the very pain of sympathy that drives them to murder and use the empathetic response for their own purposes. Nothing unseen goes to waste, the reality is, itself, a very efficient device. None of this is to say that we shouldn't feel compassion for those we see suffering, it's more about being aware of the potential manipulation of energies, and taking the conscious high road, seeing the injustice and making our own response, not the one they would expect to engender. When people are suffering, it does bring a response, but one more akin to a righteous anger than a pang of sympathy, sensing what is behind the image being presented. We feel the pain of others acutely, we just own our reaction, and that can at times make us seem a little cold, or unsympathetic, but the truth is we feel it just the same.

[PurpleLama]

Pay special attention, if you go to the here and now, to my response to awakeinadream, I think, about the OOo symbol. That's a good one, you can take it to the bank. If you're in a good place (and you are, Fred) you can use that one, but if you're not in the best place, use the one Playdo posted to get some relief. It's important you read my statement on Playdo's symbol, if you're on that end.

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm wondering what affect a group of awake and aware people could have on this energy, by simply gathering together, looking at it, and "seeing" it for what it is.Good topic, Fred.

Maybe just exposing it (shine light on it) will make it powerless.

Maybe laughing at it will make it powerless.

In a way, the Achilles story is not an apt analogy, but the concept of having an Achilles heel is easily understood. It may be childish nievete on my part to think this way, but I believe that (probably other than Source) all entities - even the most powerful and the most evil - have vulnerabilities and weaknesses. Further, I believe that there are times when the vulnerabilities are exposed and surmize that it is when those entities move out of or away from their center. That is, (thanks, Roman) when they push and pull. So, maybe we need to think about what the vulnerabilities are and how to capitalize on those times of vulnerability, so that we are ready to immediately drive an energetic wedge into it, or expose it, or laugh the power out of it. Then, we snap back to our center.

This may be contradictory to Roman's thoughts, in that we would actually be actively pushing or pulling (albeit strategically and temporarily.) But if we look at the energy flow like a Jiu Jitsu master, maybe we can use the force of the malevolent entities against themselves and thus we remain centered, or at least in knowing that we pull a door as we push a door, perhaps the backlash energy can be met with the same Jiu Jitsu concept.

It's quite possible that I'm not spiritually/energetically mature enough to simply take whatever the malevolent entities throw at us and remain centered. Even though it sounds correct it feels like acquiescence to the malevolence and unwise in a service-to-others capacity.

Got me thinking!

Requires further study...

Dennis

[PurpleLama]

I will say it here, and I'll stick it up there, it is important the we all be prepared to eat a little sh!t, and roll with the punches. Remaining calm is Key, believe it!

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[PurpleLama]

Fred, you always seem say out loud what most of us think. You have a way with words, keep it up mate! ;)

I have to detach myself energetically from events like this not because I don't care, but because I care too much. I am highly emphatic. I don't want to give my energy to these energetic vampires... I try meditate more and keep myself in balance so that I am able to just feel unconditional love towards everyone, no matter what happens. I have a vision of positive future in my mind & heart. Love always prevails, always.

Don't think unconditional love repeals the efficacy for righteous anger, one must remember that disagreement is a key factor in keeping ones energy from being pirated by the perpetrators of nefarious events.

[Curt]

Purple. Dude. Someday, I would like the opportunity to sit down and learn your kung fu, my friend. Mucho respect. :yo:



Fred, you always seem say out loud what most of us think. You have a way with words, keep it up mate! ;)

I have to detach myself energetically from events like this not because I don't care, but because I care too much. I am highly emphatic. I don't want to give my energy to these energetic vampires... I try meditate more and keep myself in balance so that I am able to just feel unconditional love towards everyone, no matter what happens. I have a vision of positive future in my mind & heart. Love always prevails, always.

Don't think unconditional love repeals the efficacy for righteous anger, one must remember that disagreement is a key factor in keeping ones energy from being pirated by the perpetrators of nefarious events.

[Wind]

Don't think unconditional love repeals the efficacy for righteous anger, one must remember that disagreement is a key factor in keeping ones energy from being pirated by the perpetrators of nefarious events.

I certainly disagree, but with love. Righteous anger is sometimes purifying, but it is an entirely different thing than hate. Hate is just poison in your veins.

[DeDukshyn]

Fred, you always seem say out loud what most of us think. You have a way with words, keep it up mate! ;)

I have to detach myself energetically from events like this not because I don't care, but because I care too much. I am highly emphatic. I don't want to give my energy to these energetic vampires... I try meditate more and keep myself in balance so that I am able to just feel unconditional love towards everyone, no matter what happens. I have a vision of positive future in my mind & heart. Love always prevails, always.

Don't think unconditional love repeals the efficacy for righteous anger, one must remember that disagreement is a key factor in keeping ones energy from being pirated by the perpetrators of nefarious events.

IMHO, I think it may be more accurate to say it this way; that "Choice" is the key factor. To choose to see it for what it is and not participate in the creation of negative energies (aka minding your "feelings" towards events and others).

I think it means the exact same thing but with perhaps a more "agreeable" tone for some ;)

My 2 cents ;)

[Fred Steeves]

I feel two of Roman's "doors" vying desperately for my attention, both unconditional love, and righteous anger. The "stance" is not easy to maintain, but it's vital that we master it.

[Curt]

I love the vibe of this song, and it feels especially apt now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdpFWaX8yyQ

[PurpleLama]

We don't disagree, I am not speaking to hate, I point to the anger of one who sees suffering, that which would move one to stop it if they could. To be clear, that has nothing to do with hate. Those responsible for evil are pitiable, and in need of mercy and healing. Hate is their game, not ours.



Don't think unconditional love repeals the efficacy for righteous anger, one must remember that disagreement is a key factor in keeping ones energy from being pirated by the perpetrators of nefarious events.

I certainly disagree, but with love. Righteous anger is sometimes purifying, but it is an entirely different thing than hate. Hate is just poison in your veins.

[Fred Steeves]

I never dared to speak this about the following dream I started the old Dreams of avalon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24908-Dreams-of-avalon) thread with, but never for a second did I see it as just a dream. I always saw it as a vision, a metaphor for a period of time that was going to occur at some point in the future. It was a big kick in the ass to begin preparations.

Preparing for what, or how to do it, doesn't come with a manual. Hell, I don't read those darn things anyway.(LOL) There was just that faint little whispering voice saying basically: "Go within for your answers, because you already know. It's all right there". Of course it wasn't quite that obvious, but without ever really even intending to, that became the chosen course, by simply following intuition at every turn.

So now it seems we are entering the time to encounter that great bear, and spend some quality time in his lair. This is precisely why I like Roman's "stance" so much, and how impeccable his timing was in sharing that. To have "the stance" mastered, is the only way to make it through this in one piece. Spiritually speaking that is.


There was a man in the community, looked something like Obi Won Kenobi but 20
years older, who was well known to have the rather peculiar habit of communing
in the wild with the largest and the oldest of the grizzly bear population. Like
gorilla silverbacks. For years now he had occasionally sat very still and quietly
with one or the other in their very lair, and claimed that the experience was
sort of a purification, a healing of sorts. Anyone who so dared to share in his
experience was more then welcome, but it was well understood that the slightest
movement in the great bear's presence, or sign of fear, would cause you to be
instantly ripped to shreds. If you stayed perfectly still, and without fear, you
were safe and would receive the purification. The great beast lived by this
ethos, and would not deviate under any circumstance.

I decided to take the old man up on his offer, along with another man close to his age. We crawled
through the opening and into the lair, like a big stone igloo. Spacious inside.
There was a couch and a table. The old man sat down on one end of the couch, I
chose to sit indian style next to him on the floor, and the other gentleman sat
at the table.

Once the great animal made his entrance, there was no
turning back. What he liked to do was to get in real nice and close to people,
let you feel, to know his massiveness and beastly strength, then sniff your
scent and lick you all over, tasting you so to speak. Verrrrry slowly, just
daring you to twitch. The great old beast went first to the man at the table,
who promptly lost his nerve and jumped up to leave. The old man and I begged him
to sit down, but it was too late. The bear was on him, and the last thing I saw
was a few pounds of flesh hanging out of the great beast's mouth.

No fear I told myself. When he was done he paused briefly at the old man next to me, and
then to me. "No fear Fred, no fear Fred" I was thinking. I felt the hot stinking
breath on the back of my neck, then the huge tongue, smelling my scent, tasting
me, just waiting for the first little twitch, or the faintest scent of fear. I
can still feel it. There was no fear, but it was riding the razor's edge. With
that, I received the bear's grudging approval, and was released to wake up and
start the day.

[Curt]

That's a pretty profound dream experience. It reminds me of this clip, The Southern Oracle, from Neverending Story


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jogNJd5azg


I never dared to speak this about the following dream I started the old Dreams of avalon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24908-Dreams-of-avalon) thread with, but never for a second did I see it as just a dream. I always saw it as a vision, a metaphor for a period of time that was going to occur at some point in the future. It was a big kick in the ass to begin preparations.

Preparing for what, or how to do it, doesn't come with a manual. Hell, I don't read those darn things anyway.(LOL) There was just that faint little whispering voice saying basically: "Go within for your answers, because you already know. It's all right there". Of course it wasn't quite that obvious, but without ever really even intending to, that became the chosen course, by simply following intuition at every turn.

So now it seems we are entering the time to encounter that great bear, and spend some quality time in his lair. This is precisely why I like Roman's "stance" so much, and how impeccable his timing was in sharing that. To have "the stance" mastered, is the only way to make it through this in one piece. Spiritually speaking that is.


There was a man in the community, looked something like Obi Won Kenobi but 20
years older, who was well known to have the rather peculiar habit of communing
in the wild with the largest and the oldest of the grizzly bear population. Like
gorilla silverbacks. For years now he had occasionally sat very still and quietly
with one or the other in their very lair, and claimed that the experience was
sort of a purification, a healing of sorts. Anyone who so dared to share in his
experience was more then welcome, but it was well understood that the slightest
movement in the great bear's presence, or sign of fear, would cause you to be
instantly ripped to shreds. If you stayed perfectly still, and without fear, you
were safe and would receive the purification. The great beast lived by this
ethos, and would not deviate under any circumstance.

I decided to take the old man up on his offer, along with another man close to his age. We crawled
through the opening and into the lair, like a big stone igloo. Spacious inside.
There was a couch and a table. The old man sat down on one end of the couch, I
chose to sit indian style next to him on the floor, and the other gentleman sat
at the table.

Once the great animal made his entrance, there was no
turning back. What he liked to do was to get in real nice and close to people,
let you feel, to know his massiveness and beastly strength, then sniff your
scent and lick you all over, tasting you so to speak. Verrrrry slowly, just
daring you to twitch. The great old beast went first to the man at the table,
who promptly lost his nerve and jumped up to leave. The old man and I begged him
to sit down, but it was too late. The bear was on him, and the last thing I saw
was a few pounds of flesh hanging out of the great beast's mouth.

No fear I told myself. When he was done he paused briefly at the old man next to me, and
then to me. "No fear Fred, no fear Fred" I was thinking. I felt the hot stinking
breath on the back of my neck, then the huge tongue, smelling my scent, tasting
me, just waiting for the first little twitch, or the faintest scent of fear. I
can still feel it. There was no fear, but it was riding the razor's edge. With
that, I received the bear's grudging approval, and was released to wake up and
start the day.

[DeDukshyn]

I never dared to speak this about the following dream I started the old Dreams of avalon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24908-Dreams-of-avalon) thread with, but never for a second did I see it as just a dream. I always saw it as a vision, a metaphor for a period of time that was going to occur at some point in the future. It was a big kick in the ass to begin preparations.

Preparing for what, or how to do it, doesn't come with a manual. Hell, I don't read those darn things anyway.(LOL) There was just that faint little whispering voice saying basically: "Go within for your answers, because you already know. It's all right there". Of course it wasn't quite that obvious, but without ever really even intending to, that became the chosen course, by simply following intuition at every turn.

So now it seems we are entering the time to encounter that great bear, and spend some quality time in his lair. This is precisely why I like Roman's "stance" so much, and how impeccable his timing was in sharing that. To have "the stance" mastered, is the only way to make it through this in one piece. Spiritually speaking that is.


There was a man in the community, looked something like Obi Won Kenobi but 20
years older, who was well known to have the rather peculiar habit of communing
in the wild with the largest and the oldest of the grizzly bear population. Like
gorilla silverbacks. For years now he had occasionally sat very still and quietly
with one or the other in their very lair, and claimed that the experience was
sort of a purification, a healing of sorts. Anyone who so dared to share in his
experience was more then welcome, but it was well understood that the slightest
movement in the great bear's presence, or sign of fear, would cause you to be
instantly ripped to shreds. If you stayed perfectly still, and without fear, you
were safe and would receive the purification. The great beast lived by this
ethos, and would not deviate under any circumstance.

I decided to take the old man up on his offer, along with another man close to his age. We crawled
through the opening and into the lair, like a big stone igloo. Spacious inside.
There was a couch and a table. The old man sat down on one end of the couch, I
chose to sit indian style next to him on the floor, and the other gentleman sat
at the table.

Once the great animal made his entrance, there was no
turning back. What he liked to do was to get in real nice and close to people,
let you feel, to know his massiveness and beastly strength, then sniff your
scent and lick you all over, tasting you so to speak. Verrrrry slowly, just
daring you to twitch. The great old beast went first to the man at the table,
who promptly lost his nerve and jumped up to leave. The old man and I begged him
to sit down, but it was too late. The bear was on him, and the last thing I saw
was a few pounds of flesh hanging out of the great beast's mouth.

No fear I told myself. When he was done he paused briefly at the old man next to me, and
then to me. "No fear Fred, no fear Fred" I was thinking. I felt the hot stinking
breath on the back of my neck, then the huge tongue, smelling my scent, tasting
me, just waiting for the first little twitch, or the faintest scent of fear. I
can still feel it. There was no fear, but it was riding the razor's edge. With
that, I received the bear's grudging approval, and was released to wake up and
start the day.

Similar in message to my giant bugs dream, I have also had a very similar dream (actually many which I'll explain more after) to your bear dream ... except for a bear -- it was a spider.

I had found myself in a grassy field not a far distance from a giant tarantula, and by giant I mean 7' tall at the legs and likely about 500+ lbs in mass. I instantly froze and weighed my options of survival. I'm a good fighter, but this looked impossible. There was no way to outrun it - I have seen how tarantula hunt and I knew all he had to do was a single leap and he'd be able to "cage" me in under his body between all his legs. I had no weapons and I was in a wide open field. No chance of living ... just as fear and despair started creeping in, I thought to myself, well let's try the other end of the spectrum .. I have nothing to lose ...

So I loved it. I looked it straight in the eyes and walked toward it with nothing but pure love -- I faced my fear head on with Love, and allowed that love to abolish my fear. Almost instantly the spider perked up and moved toward me seemingly to gesture, "You finally get it! You silly monkey!". He then scurried right over to me and began making playful gestures as a cat or dog does when it wants to play, and so I joined in and we jumped around and played together sharing Love -- it was really weird, especially considering it was a spider. The Love I felt coming from this spider was vast as was my love to give at that moment.

In an instant my world had changed in this dream from certain death to to the expression of love and bliss I had longed for -- it all changed with my feelings and with the same catalyst that could have also killed me. I got this dream right, and that big hairy spider was pleased to let me know.

This was one of the first dreams where I got it "right". I had had many previous where similar scenarios played out, usually involving tyrannosaurus rex or secret MIB agents -- both popular elements in my dreams at the time. Usually I would end up narrowly surviving these encounters, but there was never any resolution -- just more fighting, more games, until you change that which you have always done -- it is our fears and habits and reasons that prevent us from acting in love, sometimes you have to be unreasonable in action to experience results that you think are impossible, and you may just be surprised at what happens ...

Just an anecdote to share alongside Fred's excellent dream story. ;)

[DeDukshyn]

I feel two of Roman's "doors" vying desperately for my attention, both unconditional love, and righteous anger. The "stance" is not easy to maintain, but it's vital that we master it.

Just recall their "currency" and all step down emotions of fear. When that anger arises (as it surely does in most of us), allow it to motivate your expressions of love, your intentions for change, then let it go when it has served your purpose. Anything can be a tool, it is when we employ tools outside of their useful zones that they become destructive.

My 2 cents again ;)

[Fred Steeves]

This was one of the first dreams where I got it "right". I had had many previous where similar scenarios played out, usually involving tyrannosaurus rex or secret MIB agents -- both popular elements in my dreams at the time. Usually I would end up narrowly surviving these encounters, but there was never any resolution -- just more fighting, more games, until you change that which you have always done -- it is our fears and habits and reasons that prevent us from acting in love, sometimes you have to be unreasonable in action to experience results that you think are impossible, and you may just be surprised at what happens ...


I like the spider dream DeDukshyn, and I also like the way you summed things up here. Stop playing the game, and perform the impossible with confidence. You reckon an AI machine can predict that?

[DeDukshyn]

... You reckon an AI machine can predict that?

Precisely why many of their simulations are failing them at this time, we've already begun! ;) AI is based on egoic structures. Long ago I determined and wrote an article on the possibilities of AI (this was before it was assumed to already be had), where I explained how easily it could be done and that an AI would be able to mimick a human ego very accurately. Since the ego is logic based on appearances , then certainly machines / computers would naturally be created with AI that would work in the exact same way - logic and reasoning based on appearances. I also concluded that since humans are currently almost entirely ego driven (huge exception given to the contents and contributers of this thread, well done!), then AI would be able to act extremely "human".

The only advantage that humans have over this is their spiritual side and capacity for unconditional love -- it is what sets us apart from mechanisms of ego -- that can easily be emulated by machine. Without that expression of that love, we might as well be walking "zombies" or just "programs" for others purposes. This is our gift, our birthright to express, and now, our utmost responsibility to ensure we are participating in the positive changes that are currently required to be fulfilled.

Soon we may find ourselves in that position where the "... what have we got to lose?!" scenario is our only option left ... I would rather not let it get that far, but maximum contrast will bring maximum effect so who am I to judge? lol ...

[Wind]

We don't disagree, I am not speaking to hate, I point to the anger of one who sees suffering, that which would move one to stop it if they could. To be clear, that has nothing to do with hate. Those responsible for evil are pitiable, and in need of mercy and healing. Hate is their game, not ours.

Yes, I agree. That's what I also meant.