Quarantine ends after tomorrow?

[Youniverse]

Hi everyone! Just wondering what your thoughts are on the alleged "end of the quarantine" after Dec21/2012, thus allowing ETs more freedom to make contact with us? What does this mean to you? I think the first place I heard about this was from Bashar. It's interesting at the very least.

[Water33/6]

I heard this from bashar too. I guess it means the level of sightings will increase significantly. But he also said it will be a gradual change, not mass landings all at once.... Unfortunately!

[Wind]

Well, I've heard that contact will happen after the shift so we'll have to see...

If someone else has more info about it I would be interested to know.

[Amity]

Lots of people say lots of things and nothing ever changes.

[ghostrider]

If tommorrow is meet the ET day, then I want to be first to request a trip to the crab nebula and open the great barrier and enter the Dow universe, I go on vacation at five tommorrow evening, first time in three years. I can't think of a better trip than to visit the timmers and asket ... maybe I'll run into Ptaah ... or the soneans...so little time and so many galaxies to visit...lol. I'm giddy today...

[Carmody]

What would you want to go to the crab nebula for? Everyone is crabby there! bah!

[BrianEn]

I'd like to ask about stem cell research.

[ThePythonicCow]

What would you want to go to the crab nebula for? Everyone is crabby there! bah!

His reasons are nebulous, I'm sure.

[Beren]

What would you want to go to the crab nebula for? Everyone is crabby there! bah!

His reasons are nebulous, I'm sure.

What if they come in this kind of vessel???


http://www.lolgallery.com/hot-air-cow/

[johnf]

If tommorrow is meet the ET day, then I want to be first to request a trip to the crab nebula and open the great barrier and enter the Dow universe, I go on vacation at five tommorrow evening, first time in three years. I can't think of a better trip than to visit the timmers and asket ... maybe I'll run into Ptaah ... or the soneans...so little time and so many galaxies to visit...lol. I'm giddy today...

Don't you mean the Dall universe? Perhaps to converse with the all knowing talking sheep?

[ghostrider]

What would you want to go to the crab nebula for? Everyone is crabby there! bah!

Ptaah says it is the farthest star away in our milkyway , and it has a hidden barrier,that the plejaren built that connects our universe with the dow universe. there is a picture of the great barrier on the future of mankinds website . it is so cool. Billy took the photo while it was closing.

[Calz]

http://www.iheartfunny.com/uploads/pics/funny-celebrity-pictures-space-crabs1314669639.jpg

[ghostrider]

If tommorrow is meet the ET day, then I want to be first to request a trip to the crab nebula and open the great barrier and enter the Dow universe, I go on vacation at five tommorrow evening, first time in three years. I can't think of a better trip than to visit the timmers and asket ... maybe I'll run into Ptaah ... or the soneans...so little time and so many galaxies to visit...lol. I'm giddy today...

Don't you mean the Dall universe? Perhaps to converse with the all knowing talking sheep?
I think it is Dal now that you mention it, anyhoo , the place where asket and the timmers live .

[johnf]

I was roomates with a dood once that had memories of becoming a walkin from there this lifetime so, I used to be familiar as heck with the name . But I had to google a few times to find it again, and go DOH!

[Camilo]

The whole thing sounds like everything else that has been said all this year. I seriously doubt it.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Youniverse, I think the only quarantine we have ever been under, is the truth of ourselves, which we have been so terrified to look at. In other words, we have been long suffering under a self imposed quarantine.

Cheers,
Fred

[Dennis Leahy]

This is excellent. A date on the calendar. Now, when nothing happens, we can take several more channelers and throw them in the "round file."

Wasn't it Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek) that came up with the concept of visiting other worlds and not interfering? How did this get to be a concept ascribed to ET life forms visiting Earth? And then, there are the bad guy ETs on and around Earth that may actually run this as a slave planet (most certainly interfering with us, for millennia), and they seem not to have taken the vow of not interfering.

You'd think any good ETs would realize the bad ETs are using an unfair advantage (we always assume they have 1000 more years of evolution than us, minimum.) If true, then why oh why would any good ETs stand back and watch us be controlled - with no chance of us ever getting out from under the bad ET control? Are they just passive aggressive a-holes?

Call me a "doubting Thomas" (I might have been Thomas in a former life, who knows), but I see no chance any "far-flung foreign friendlies" will ever give us what we need to get out from under the bad ETs. (If the baddies have been here for Millennia, probably they should be called "Earthlings" not "aliens" and probably do feel like they own this planet.) So, even a full disclosure wouldn't help one bit - unless it came along with specific help for getting the malevolent ETs the hell away from here. Some silly date on a calendar isn't going to change anything in ET land. Most likely, Earth is a zoo, and we are simply the primates with opposable thumbs, fun to watch - or interesting to watch other ET races use us as slaves.

I really am convinced that if it is ever going to get any better on planet Earth, that it will be humans that fix the major problems, not ETs.

Dennis

[white wizard]

It would be nice if they would just maker there presence known that way the

dam of lies that our governments has been hiding behind can come crashing

down no one needs to fix our problems, but there is so much deception on the

planet and people are so closed minded that unless we realize there is more out

there than most people will only think of whats going on in there general lives,

but if there was proof of life out there than I think the amount of people

waking up to the deception that has occurred will sky rocket.

[Carmody]

The understanding is that it is contractual and consensus.

-you were born....
-and then your parents enrolled you in it.
- at the age of becoming an adult, you accepted the papers and followed the rules- this is tacit acceptance and agreement.
-they tell you ahead of time, when they are going to do something.
-why do you think they come after those who publicly say that they 'opt out'?
-basically, you agreed to the charade, the entire and whole thing. Lock, stock, and barrel.

Thus, how could any group interfere in what the entire or vast majority of the given population agrees to live in, agrees verbally, by definition, by being, by contract. What we agree to by not stating our separateness, en-masse?

the violation is in the heart and meaning, not the letter.

The story goes that the same thing was given back. Which is to not violate the letter. That those who will change this situation, have agreed to come here and incarnate as humans. And that they are everywhere.

This story is not just in the works of Dolores Cannon, but is strongly hinted at (IMO) in the written works of Dr. Micheal Newton. Another separate and independent hypnotist.

[johnf]

This is excellent. A date on the calendar. Now, when nothing happens, we can take several more channelers and throw them in the "round file."

Wasn't it Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek) that came up with the concept of visiting other worlds and not interfering? How did this get to be a concept ascribed to ET life forms visiting Earth? And then, there are the bad guy ETs on and around Earth that may actually run this as a slave planet (most certainly interfering with us, for millennia), and they seem not to have taken the vow of not interfering.

You'd think any good ETs would realize the bad ETs are using an unfair advantage (we always assume they have 1000 more years of evolution than us, minimum.) If true, then why oh why would any good ETs stand back and watch us be controlled - with no chance of us ever getting out from under the bad ET control? Are they just passive aggressive a-holes?

Call me a "doubting Thomas" (I might have been Thomas in a former life, who knows), but I see no chance any "far-flung foreign friendlies" will ever give us what we need to get out from under the bad ETs. (If the baddies have been here for Millennia, probably they should be called "Earthlings" not "aliens" and probably do feel like they own this planet.) So, even a full disclosure wouldn't help one bit - unless it came along with specific help for getting the malevolent ETs the hell away from here. Some silly date on a calendar isn't going to change anything in ET land. Most likely, Earth is a zoo, and we are simply the primates with opposable thumbs, fun to watch - or interesting to watch other ET races use us as slaves.

I really am convinced that if it is ever going to get any better on planet Earth, that it will be humans that fix the major problems, not ETs.

Dennis

C.S.Lewis is the earliest source I know of. Out of the Silent Planet. First in a trilogy.

[Youniverse]

Hi Youniverse, I think the only quarantine we have ever been under, is the truth of ourselves, which we have been so terrified to look at. In other words, we have been long suffering under a self imposed quarantine.

Cheers,
Fred

Yeah a good friend of mine says this a fair bit and I agree that this is a big part of it. However, I believe this is changing in the new energy now. So many more of us will lose the fear of the unknown. Fear of ourselves, of course, is arguably what it boils down to. And you're right, Fred, this is the biggest(actually the only I suppose) quarantine that needs to come down.

[gripreaper]

Well, once again, it's the context of the viewer which determines the relevance of the viewpoint.

If you are in your lower conscious mind, looking at the nefarious shenanigans of the elite who came here and they "DO" think they own the place, and are the god's with un-alien-able rights (pun intended), then you will see a quarantine, imposed on us through abject and ruthless genocide and control dynamics, against your will and without your direct consent. Yet, these gods claim that they tell us everything they are going to do and we are just too stupid to see what's going on, and we actually like our slavery and would not leave it, even if the bars of the jail were ripped down and taken away, and we were free to leave. So they laugh, and continue raping, pillaging, and killing us with nary a wimper from most.

Now, if you want to go to the higher mind and view the quarantine from the cerebrum, then due diligence and discernment is required, because the same god's from the lower astral planes who run the elite controllers, want to circumvent this knowledge and keep it from becoming mainstream. Why else did do you think they burned the library at Alexandria, desecrated the sacred temples along the Nile, hid and destroyed all of the ancient truths, and sent their mercenary forces all around the Mediterranian to kill anyone who did not subscribe to the sanctioned consciousness of these gods? They kept going until the few who resisted were driven high into the Himalayas where they would not be a bother, and the rest of us acquiesced. Now we have shining lights on our hamster wheels, and we each get a soft blanket and a pillow. Most stay content with this, as long as they don't try and take our pillow away!

Whether there was a quarantine shield out in the ionosphere set up by the aliens who left these incorrigible bastard children here (the elite) and that is now lifted, has yet to be seen. Some say a huge hole was blasted through that protective shield when those idiots at Montauk were messing around with the space/time continuum, and that's when the spaceships started to enter into our inner atmosphere, and that's when the globalists developed their hidden economy and their black ops, with the formation of Bilderberger.

Regardless, this apparent "foah-pah" by the gods of this earth has just increased the raping and pillaging a hundred fold in the last century, and it appears that the ET wars apparently occurring out in our atmosphere have no direct import on our immediate overall lives, as they may be too busy fighting amongst themselves to care too much about us slaves, since we are so easy to control and so malleable by the slightest false flag. Maybe when they get done whacking each other, they might decide to come down here and save us from destroying ourselves.

But, putting all of the memes fomented on us aside, there is a remnant of souls who are asking the right questions about the ancient knowledge destroyed over the millennium, and how to access it. It has to do with energy, the matrix of all energy, how to draw it into you, magnify it, focus it, and emanate it for an intentional outcome which we CAN manifest if we so choose. If there is any kind of quarantine which needs to be lifted, it is the quarantine on wisdom, self determination, self responsibility, and the restoration of the ancient wisdom of energetics.

This is the only self imposed quarantine I see, and I'm not under it anymore.

[DNA]

Ptaah says it is the farthest star away in our milkyway , and it has a hidden barrier,that the plejaren built that connects our universe with the dow universe. there is a picture of the great barrier on the future of mankinds website . it is so cool. Billy took the photo while it was closing.

Meier states nothing will happen. But I could see the Guvment staging a mass landing to begin the one world governemnt.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2oct3zeTM

[Youniverse]

This is excellent. A date on the calendar. Now, when nothing happens, we can take several more channelers and throw them in the "round file."

Wasn't it Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek) that came up with the concept of visiting other worlds and not interfering? How did this get to be a concept ascribed to ET life forms visiting Earth? And then, there are the bad guy ETs on and around Earth that may actually run this as a slave planet (most certainly interfering with us, for millennia), and they seem not to have taken the vow of not interfering.

You'd think any good ETs would realize the bad ETs are using an unfair advantage (we always assume they have 1000 more years of evolution than us, minimum.) If true, then why oh why would any good ETs stand back and watch us be controlled - with no chance of us ever getting out from under the bad ET control? Are they just passive aggressive a-holes?

Call me a "doubting Thomas" (I might have been Thomas in a former life, who knows), but I see no chance any "far-flung foreign friendlies" will ever give us what we need to get out from under the bad ETs. (If the baddies have been here for Millennia, probably they should be called "Earthlings" not "aliens" and probably do feel like they own this planet.) So, even a full disclosure wouldn't help one bit - unless it came along with specific help for getting the malevolent ETs the hell away from here. Some silly date on a calendar isn't going to change anything in ET land. Most likely, Earth is a zoo, and we are simply the primates with opposable thumbs, fun to watch - or interesting to watch other ET races use us as slaves.

I really am convinced that if it is ever going to get any better on planet Earth, that it will be humans that fix the major problems, not ETs.

Dennis

I respect and appreciate what you're saying Dennis, and it does come down to us getting it together and doing the work. I try not to think of myself as 'other than' or seperate from the ETs you've mentioned. Just as I try not to see myself as seperate from the rest of humanity. So if it has been hands off for such a long time, why not get a little boost in the 'right' direction? We'll do the rest of course.

[DNA]

C.S.Lewis is the earliest source I know of. Out of the Silent Planet. First in a trilogy.

Wow, I never knew where King's X got the name for their first album. I guess now I do. Thanks



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dJPqcHOJM4&playnext=1&list=PLFA03583793464D0E&feature=results_main

[Dennis Leahy]

The understanding is that it is contractual and consensus.

-you were born....
-and then your parents enrolled you in it.
- at the age of becoming an adult, you accepted the papers and followed the rules- this is tactic acceptance and agreement.
-they tell you ahead of time, when they are going to do something.
-why do you think they come after those who publicly say that they 'opt out'?
-basically, you agreed to the charade, the entire and whole thing. Lock, stock, and barrel.

Thus, how could any group interfere in what the entire or vast majority of the given population agrees to live in, agrees verbally, by definition, by being, by contract. What we agree to by not stating our separateness, en-masse?

the violation is in the heart and meaning, not the letter.

The story goes that the same thing was given back. Which is to not violate the letter. That those who will change this situation, have agreed to come here and incarnate as humans. And that they are everywhere.

This story is not just in the works of Dolores Cannon, but is strongly hinted at (IMO) in the written works of Dr. Micheal Newton. Another separate and independent hypnotist.
Loves me some Michael Newton (have only slightly sampled Dolores' work), but you're right, we agreed to come here and live with whatever the local constraints are. Interestingly, Newton never mentions a soul in deep hypnosis in spirit memory talking about archons or that Earth is infested with malevolent aliens who run the joint. That's part of why I don't believe in archons (or the Easter Bunny.) The selfishness, lust, greed, and quest for power and dominance I have seen in humans does not require that they are being manipulated by other (malevolent) entities.

If I'm right, average humans (who are mostly good, if a bit thickheaded) can attain abundance and live together in a level and degree of harmony and joy that has never been seen on Earth - once we kick the selfish, malevolent, colluded, mainly sociopathic humans out of positions of power. You may say, that's not what this planet is for. If so, I say, where's another planet - I'm sick of the game on this one. I do know that Dolores says we are here to transform things - or at least to experience a transformation. Bring it! I'm "cleaning my house" and have aligned my energy as best I know how.

Starseeds, crystals, indidegos...maybe they are ETs and that is the wave of ET energy on Earth. I just strongly envision humans and what appear to be humans making the big positive changes - so I'm not looking to the skies.

Dennis

[Youniverse]

Well, once again, it's the context of the viewer which determines the relevance of the viewpoint.

If you are in your lower conscious mind, looking at the nefarious shenanigans of the elite who came here and they "DO" think they own the place, and are the god's with un-alien-able rights (pun intended), then you will see a quarantine, imposed on us through abject and ruthless genocide and control dynamics, against your will and without your direct consent. Yet, these gods claim that they tell us everything they are going to do and we are just too stupid to see what's going on, and we actually like our slavery and would not leave it, even if the bars of the jail were ripped down and taken away, and we were free to leave. So they laugh, and continue raping, pillaging, and killing us with nary a wimper from most.

Now, if you want to go to the higher mind and view the quarantine from the cerebellum, then due diligence and discernment is required, because the same god's from the lower astral planes who run the elite controllers, want to circumvent this knowledge and keep it from becoming mainstream. Why else did do you think they burned the library at Alexandria, desecrated the sacred temples along the Nile, hid and destroyed all of the ancient truths, and sent their mercenary forces all around the Mediterranian to kill anyone who did not subscribe to the sanctioned consciousness of these gods? They kept going until the few who resisted were driven high into the Himalayas where they would not be a bother, and the rest of us acquiesced. Now we have shining lights on our hamster wheels, and we each get a soft blanket and a pillow. Most stay content with this, as long as they don't try and take our pillow away!

Whether there was a quarantine shield out in the ionosphere set up by the aliens who left these incorrigible bastard children here (the elite) and that is now lifted, has yet to be seen. Some say a huge hole was blasted through that protective shield when those idiots at Montauk were messing around with the space/time continuum, and that's when the spaceships started to enter into our inner atmosphere, and that's when the globalists developed their hidden economy and their black ops, with the formation of Bilderberger.

Regardless, this apparent "foah-pah" by the gods of this earth has just increased the raping and pillaging a hundred fold in the last century, and it appears that the ET wars apparently occurring out in our atmosphere have no direct import on our immediate overall lives, as they may be too busy fighting amongst themselves to care too much about us slaves, since we are so easy to control and so malleable by the slightest false flag. Maybe when they get done whacking each other, they might decide to come down here and save us from destroying ourselves.

But, putting all of the memes fomented on us aside, there is a remnant of souls who are asking the right questions about the ancient knowledge destroyed over the millennium, and how to access it. It has to do with energy, the matrix of all energy, how to draw it into you, magnify it, focus it, and emanate it for an intentional outcome which we CAN manifest if we so choose. If there is any kind of quarantine which needs to be lifted, it is the quarantine on wisdom, self determination, self responsibility, and the restoration of the ancient wisdom of energetics.

This is the only self imposed quarantine I see, and I'm not under it anymore.

Than-you for your post. I'm not under it either. Haven't been for quite a while now. Isn't this what the whole New Age idea is supposed to be about? Enough of us being so sick and tired of the same old crap that we band together and elevate humanity?

[Carmody]

Newton mentions it in one word, one page only, in the first book.

He says, I believe, I'll have to check, on page 89.

One word, and the very point of the one sentence.

"WAR."

The sentence went along the lines of: "We are here, for the duration of the war."

[Youniverse]

The understanding is that it is contractual and consensus.

-you were born....
-and then your parents enrolled you in it.
- at the age of becoming an adult, you accepted the papers and followed the rules- this is tactic acceptance and agreement.
-they tell you ahead of time, when they are going to do something.
-why do you think they come after those who publicly say that they 'opt out'?
-basically, you agreed to the charade, the entire and whole thing. Lock, stock, and barrel.

Thus, how could any group interfere in what the entire or vast majority of the given population agrees to live in, agrees verbally, by definition, by being, by contract. What we agree to by not stating our separateness, en-masse?

the violation is in the heart and meaning, not the letter.

The story goes that the same thing was given back. Which is to not violate the letter. That those who will change this situation, have agreed to come here and incarnate as humans. And that they are everywhere.

This story is not just in the works of Dolores Cannon, but is strongly hinted at (IMO) in the written works of Dr. Micheal Newton. Another separate and independent hypnotist.
Loves me some Michael Newton (have only slightly sampled Dolores' work), but you're right, we agreed to come here and live with whatever the local constraints are. Interestingly, Newton never mentions a soul in deep hypnosis in spirit memory talking about archons or that Earth is infested with malevolent aliens who run the joint. That's part of why I don't believe in archons (or the Easter Bunny.) The selfishness, lust, greed, and quest for power and dominance I have seen in humans does not require that they are being manipulated by other (malevolent) entities.

If I'm right, average humans (who are mostly good, if a bit thickheaded) can attain abundance and live together in a level and degree of harmony and joy that has never been seen on Earth - once we kick the selfish, malevolent, colluded, mainly sociopathic humans out of positions of power. You may say, that's not what this planet is for. If so, I say, where's another planet - I'm sick of the game on this one. I do know that Dolores says we are here to transform things - or at least to experience a transformation. Bring it! I'm "cleaning my house" and have aligned my energy as best I know how.

Starseeds, crystals, indidegos...maybe they are ETs and that is the wave of ET energy on Earth. I just strongly envision humans and what appear to be humans making the big positive changes - so I'm not looking to the skies.

Dennis

Yes I agree but I have long since revoked that contract! ;)

[spiritguide]

The year we are stepping into should be called the "Friction of Fiction Times". I prefer the moment of now.

[Carmody]

Newton mentions it in one word, one page only, in the first book.

He says, I believe, I'll have to check, on page 89.

One word, and the very point of the one sentence.

"WAR."

The sentence went along the lines of: "We are here, for the duration of the war."

Google has an on-line preview of the first book. In that preview, near the end, is the line that was uttered by someone under hypnosis. Newton was seemingly very careful about what he allowed to be in the first book, material and quote wise. He had to very careful and well in his mind and thoughts when he put that particular quote in there.

[Wind]

I know that there has been contact in many ways, but the most usual way to help Earth has been us starseeds. "Aliens" or beings from higher dimensions born as human beings in order to assist mother Earth and it's people in ascension process. So yeah, I guess that I'm one to blame! I don't know all the details that why I chose to be here right now, but my questions will be answered in a few weeks, because I'm going to a QHHT (regression therapy session). I just find it so restricting to be a human being! I miss all the cool abilities like levitation and flying.

I'm actually willing to bet that most of us are indeed starseeds here, in a way or another. Just know that we have never ever been alone. There is still a quarantine, but I really hope that it would come to an end. Other (positive) civilizations visited Earth some 11,000 years ago so why not now? Be gone cabal, all you negative entitities and the forces Orion, be gone!

Life is just a big puzzle, isn't it?

[Youniverse]

It would be nice if they would just maker there presence known that way the

dam of lies that our governments has been hiding behind can come crashing

down no one needs to fix our problems, but there is so much deception on the

planet and people are so closed minded that unless we realize there is more out

there than most people will only think of whats going on in there general lives,

but if there was proof of life out there than I think the amount of people

waking up to the deception that has occurred will sky rocket.

I must admit that this is a significant part of the reason for my desire to see open contact and disclosure. Is it dishonourable in some way for me to want so many others to see that this is real? I'm honestly asking all of you so hit me hard if you like. It's okay. Is it somehow wrong for me to want the doubting thomases proven wrong? Not so I can make myself right, but rather, so those caught up in the fog of this world can finally see that there's so much more. To show them that what we've been saying all along IS possible, that we're not delusional or just wasting our time. I'm quite certain I want this for the betterment of all, not just for my own enjoyment.

[DNA]

That's part of why I don't believe in archons (or the Easter Bunny.) The selfishness, lust, greed, and quest for power and dominance I have seen in humans does not require that they are being manipulated by other (malevolent) entities.



I absolutely believe in some form of matrix inducing archon. Though I did believe in the Easter Bunny till a rather old age :p

I would love to think that this date is bringing about some form of energy that negates parastism on some level.

Kind of a scaled down version of this



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOnsagNoCX0
One can hope. :o

[Youniverse]

I know that there has been contact in many ways, but the most usual way to help Earth has been us starseeds. "Aliens" or beings from higher dimensions born as human beings in order to assist mother Earth and it's people in ascension process. So yeah, I guess that I'm one to blame! I don't know all the details that why I chose to be here right now, but my questions will be answered in a few weeks, because I'm going to a QHHT (regression therapy session). I just find it so restricting to be a human being! I miss all the cool abilities like levitation and flying.

I'm actually willing to bet that most of us are indeed starseeds here, in a way or another. Just know that we have never ever been alone. There is still a quarantine, but I really hope that it would come to an end. Other (positive) civilizations visited Earth some 11,000 years ago so why not now? Be gone cabal, all you negative entitities and the forces Orion, be gone!

Life is just a big puzzle, isn't it?

I don't know. I've been frustrated by the limitations of the human body for a long time too. Does that make me a starseed or an alien? I've gone through much of my life feeling like I never really fit in anywhere. Feeling like I don't belong or out of place. Feeling alien. Not to say that I've never felt these things, and I've definately felt a lot of love. I see much of everyday life as pointless, mundane, or petty. I am at peace and have clarity at the same time. Am I an alien or simply a human wanting change? Why not both? It ultimately doesn't matter what words we use anyways. What matters is how we feel deep inside and what adventure we choose next.

[betweener]

as much as i would like for something to happen on, or as a result of december 21st, im thusfar inclined to think that nothing at all will happen that hasn't already been more overtly set in motion. (which means a gun ban in January.... which earth history shows, is a more immediate precursor to the nasty side of top-down government styles.)

if something significant does happen, i would hope, at the very least, that most of our galactic and former life memories were to be released and/or downloaded to us (and that we would actually remember them, from there on out). it would certainly give us the wisdom of ages, so that we might be able to concretely know something, in order to formulate a definite effective plan, rather than making educated guesses based on a limited single lifetime (and whatever recorded history tells us), whatever little snatches of information we can get away with, and trying to do something, only to guess wrong and be back at square one, or conversely, guess right, but be caught totally unprepared for one reason or another.


im also hoping that enforced scarcity, and maybe money along with it, is also on the list to go (as swiftly as is possible, preferably within 30 to 90 days.)

but, as it is now, ide be willing to bet a vehicle of some sort, that nothing will happen, and 2013 will still be as relatively normal as ever, in spite of wanting to be desperately proven wrong on that.

[Anastasia]

I turn on the "mainstream media" news and I look for changes! I see slight inflections, comments, slips of the lips...or is it my "imagination"...are they evolving? Does it matter?

That's the point, it can't matter if I am to be the creator of my "universe".

I, now, in the wee hours of December 21, 2012 have come to a revelation:
As Fred and Dennis mentioned... this is really an inside job.

I will continue to check-in with the 'appearance' of the outside world...but, in truth, my little reality here at home, with my husband, my cats, my family, my community, My World...all is (semi) paradise, for me!

That's all that counts.

After all is said and done....(and I love all the "said & done" stuff) that's what it all comes down to.

Anastasia

[toad]

If tommorrow is meet the ET day, then I want to be first to request a trip to the crab nebula and open the great barrier and enter the Dow universe, I go on vacation at five tommorrow evening, first time in three years. I can't think of a better trip than to visit the timmers and asket ... maybe I'll run into Ptaah ... or the soneans...so little time and so many galaxies to visit...lol. I'm giddy today...

I hope you realize nebulae do not look the way artist render them to look.

[kersley]

Well, I've heard that contact will happen after the shift so we'll have to see...

If someone else has more info about it I would be interested to know.

Makalesi Returns Who Will Escape The Quarantine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cPWgheqt0g

Here you go. I don't know how to paste the you tube vid here on Avalon, so please click on the link above..I'm not sure who this Makalesi person is, but she's very knowledgeable on many subjects. I spent over an hour last night listening to her videos.
I think bill or Kerry should give her an interview PS.. Love and happiness to you all
K

[Finefeather]

Hi everyone! Just wondering what your thoughts are on the alleged "end of the quarantine" after Dec21/2012, thus allowing ETs more freedom to make contact with us? What does this mean to you? I think the first place I heard about this was from Bashar. It's interesting at the very least.
The only quarantine in our lives is the state of our minds.

Well it is the start of the Aquarian Age and it might be useful for us to read and study some influences which this event brings with it.
Things do not just just switch on or off in an instant but move in to and out of different cycles, so the real effect of this Aquarian influence or quality will only be at its best in around another 1000 years.

http://www.aquarian-age.org.ua/

So from one Aquarian to all out there...
Love to all and enjoy the ride
Ray

[Tangri]

If tommorrow is meet the ET day, then I want to be first to request a trip to the crab nebula and open the great barrier and enter the Dow universe, I go on vacation at five tommorrow evening, first time in three years. I can't think of a better trip than to visit the timmers and asket

I assume that you saw every parts of the USA and the rest of the other world(other than America) before stop taking vacation for three years.:wizard:

[Youniverse]

Yes, Anastasia, it always has been an 'inside job.' We turn within for guidance and grace, then look outward to see the fruits of our greatest desires. Sri Amma Bhagavan from Oneness University says we have crossed the critical mass of awakened ones(coinciding on Dec.21/2012, hmmm) so we'll see. Is a critical mass necessary? Only if we believe it is I suppose. I know without doubt which kind of world I prefer, deep in my heart, as I'm sure most of you do too. Will there be a turning point in our realities very soon? At least in retrospect?

[Finefeather]

Newton never mentions a soul in deep hypnosis in spirit memory talking about archons or that Earth is infested with malevolent aliens who run the joint. That's part of why I don't believe in archons (or the Easter Bunny.) The selfishness, lust, greed, and quest for power and dominance I have seen in humans does not require that they are being manipulated by other (malevolent) entities.

Dennis
Hi Dennis
Just noticed this short statement of yours...
I could say without any doubt that this the shortest statement which perfectly resolves the whole Horus-Ra Thread.
You are a better man than me for trying to convince the inconvincible :)
Well said and Thanks brother
Love
RAy

[greybeard]

Newton never mentions a soul in deep hypnosis in spirit memory talking about archons or that Earth is infested with malevolent aliens who run the joint. That's part of why I don't believe in archons (or the Easter Bunny.) The selfishness, lust, greed, and quest for power and dominance I have seen in humans does not require that they are being manipulated by other (malevolent) entities.

Dennis
Hi Dennis
Just noticed this short statement of yours...
I could say without any doubt that this the shortest statement which perfectly resolves the whole Horus-Ra Thread.
You are a better man than me for trying to convince the inconvincible :)
Well said and Thanks brother
Love
RAy


The bottom line is "What is really important to you?"
If you looking for The Peace that passeth all understanding,
then there is tried and tested paths.
On the whole the spiritual teachers that I have read/ listened to, say that it is Surrender to the will of "God" ultimately.
They dont speak about anything other than your relationship with "God".
The inherent One in that relationship.
The One that is your True self.

They dont even speak of Angels on the whole.
The main point is find your true nature--- find your Self.
Everything else is a distraction--- Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's render unto God that which is God's
So that which needs attention in your personal world take care of--- invest your energy wisely putting deposits in the spiritual bank.
Spend time with silence. (Be still and know that I am "God")

Chris