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Swami
27th March 2010, 13:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTQ60G8skUo

samvado
27th March 2010, 13:35
Good thing brain cell per se have nothing to do with intelligence, or else the old "women have smaller brains than men who have smaller brains than elephants - so whos the smartest?" question would make sense.

If you ever had an OBE you'll rightfully doubt that your physical brain has anything to do with thinking or perceiving at all.
and my THC consuming friends certainly didnt get any smarter over the years - IMO - if I am wrong in that one I myself need a perception overhaul.

maybe he's talking about tumor braincells??

Majorion
27th March 2010, 15:20
If you ever had an OBE you'll rightfully doubt that your physical brain has anything to do with thinking or perceiving at all.
and my THC consuming friends certainly didnt get any smarter over the years - IMO - if I am wrong in that one I myself need a perception overhaul.
I don't even know if we can talk about this stuff here, but I will say this; Marijuana does not cause any significant damage to the brain or otherwise any of the body, the entire conspiracy here is to do with governments deeming it illegal whilst ultimately controlling the drug flow behind the scenes. So the only reason its illegal (in most countries) is because there are those who would like to generate major profit without being held accountable. Fact: Cannabis and its variables are "soft" substances that are constantly attacked with propaganda, when anyone whose had experience knows that Alchohol is a far more dangerous substance and can easily incite violent behavior, yet it is legal and socially acceptable in most places.

Redtailhawk
27th March 2010, 15:31
I had a very well known scientist, consciousness researcher tell me, "You know why pot is illegal? Because it teaches you to think for yourself...."

HORIZONS
27th March 2010, 18:20
I smoked for 20 years and while I did not get any smarter, I sure became rebellious. And you should have seen what an x-ray of my lungs looked like - yuck!!! Been clean for a while now and have no intention of going back. PS. My memory is much better as well as overall health.

Richard
27th March 2010, 18:40
I don't even know if we can talk about this stuff here, but I will say this; Marijuana does not cause any significant damage to the brain or otherwise any of the body, the entire conspiracy here is to do with governments deeming it illegal whilst ultimately controlling the drug flow behind the scenes. So the only reason its illegal (in most countries) is because there are those who would like to generate major profit without being held accountable. Fact: Cannabis and its variables are "soft" substances that are constantly attacked with propaganda, when anyone whose had experience knows that Alchohol is a far more dangerous substance and can easily incite violent behavior, yet it is legal and socially acceptable in most places.

There are guidelines here to prevent the promotion of the use or sale of banned substannces, this thread however is not doing that it is providing information on medical effect as well as the reasons behind the criminalization of the plant.

So here it is,
Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.
The actual story shows a much different picture. Those who voted on the legal fate of this plant never had the facts, but were dependent on information supplied by those who had a specific agenda to deceive lawmakers. You’ll see below that the very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on a documented lie on the floor of the Senate.
You’ll also see that the history of marijuana’s criminalization is filled with:


Racism
Fear
Protection of Corporate Profits
Yellow Journalism
Ignorant, Incompetent, and/or Corrupt Legislators
Personal Career Advancement and Greed

These are the actual reasons marijuana is illegal.


Much More Here (http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/)

Richard
27th March 2010, 18:40
I don't even know if we can talk about this stuff here, but I will say this; Marijuana does not cause any significant damage to the brain or otherwise any of the body, the entire conspiracy here is to do with governments deeming it illegal whilst ultimately controlling the drug flow behind the scenes. So the only reason its illegal (in most countries) is because there are those who would like to generate major profit without being held accountable. Fact: Cannabis and its variables are "soft" substances that are constantly attacked with propaganda, when anyone whose had experience knows that Alcohol is a far more dangerous substance and can easily incite violent behavior, yet it is legal and socially acceptable in most places.

There are guidelines here to prevent the promotion of the use or sale of banned substances, this thread however is not doing that it is providing information on medical effect as well as the reasons behind the criminalization of the plant.

So here it is,
Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug.
The actual story shows a much different picture. Those who voted on the legal fate of this plant never had the facts, but were dependent on information supplied by those who had a specific agenda to deceive lawmakers. You’ll see below that the very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on a documented lie on the floor of the Senate.
You’ll also see that the history of marijuana’s criminalization is filled with:


Racism
Fear
Protection of Corporate Profits
Yellow Journalism
Ignorant, Incompetent, and/or Corrupt Legislators
Personal Career Advancement and Greed

Those are the actual reasons marijuana is illegal.

One of the main men on the front lines on the war on pot in the 1930's was William Randolph Hurst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst).
Hearst sympathized with Harry J. Anslinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger) in his war against marijuana. Between 1936 and 1937, Hearst associated marijuana with hemp in his newspapers and published many of the stories that Anslinger fabricated. Hearst played a major part in aiding the anti-marijuana movement, leading to its prohibition in the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937), a law which also effectively outlawed hemp.
Many believe that Hearst's paper empire (he owned hundreds of acres of timber forests and a vast number of paper mills designed to manufacture paper from wood pulp) in the early 1930s was threatened by hemp, which:
1) like wood pulp, could also be used to manufacture paper and
2) also had an advantage over wood pulp, because it could be regrown yearly as well

Much More Here (http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/)

Solphilos
27th March 2010, 18:44
The beneficial effects of cannabis are numerous. I would not say that it increases nor decreases intelligence, but it definitely has a noticeable effect on the mind. For me, it increases my ability to understand new concepts, which would normally be quite hard to understand in my normal state of awareness. I find that I am able to form longer streams of thought, and in a unique manner, logic and intuition seem to meld together in perfect synergy.
As an artist, it very drastically increases creativity and novelty in my work.
It seems to unlock previously barred doors in the mind and allows the out-pour of information on a scale not previously possible.
It takes meditation to a new level, increases psychic ability, and it was the initiating factor in my spiritual awakening.
Psychedelic plants and compounds have much potential and could initiate revolutionary changes in human awareness were it made available in the proper manner to the general public.

Tamara
28th March 2010, 06:07
As an artist, it very drastically increases creativity and novelty in my work.
It seems to unlock previously barred doors in the mind and allows the out-pour of information on a scale not previously possible.



Indeed, and without 'admitting' to previously using marijuana on a very rare basis, I would agree with you that it certainly increases and unlocks SOME thing within, in order to allow one to be more creative (at the very least). Especially when writing poetry. The great part about it is that when one's state returns to boring normality, one might often be surprised by the resultant prose. Or other such written effect/s. Apparently. :loco:

Dougall
28th March 2010, 07:29
Marijuana is Medicine. To be taken under a Doctors prescription. MJ can be used to treat Arthritis Pain, Nausea, and Mild Depression, among other things.
Currently in the USA we have 600,000 Inmates who have been convicted under Marijuana Laws. about 150,000 of those for simple possession. While at the same time in several States a quick visit to the Doctors Office followed by a stop at one of the many CO-OPs or by simply placing a phone call to a delivery service, a person is within their legal rights, to possess and use marijuana.

Do I think It increases cognition? no I do not. Do I think Young People should use it? No I do not. However we need to fully legalize Marijuana, Tax it like a Mad Man and let some non violent offenders out of Stir.

Ross
28th March 2010, 08:21
It is no coinicidence that pot is illegal...it has been well known by the establishment that it helps to bridge the right hemisphere brain and promote 'free thinking' and creativity. This is a big nono! easier to dumb one down with alcohol and provide other illegal substances that restrict ones ability to function with there own mind. Of course anything used in access is bad for you...

The indoor hydro pot is again no coincidence, It has been assumed that its growth in the industry is due to cultivators trying to produce the supreme 'weed' however this is a scam in its self. The avaliable 'hydro' products and artificial growing medium is allowed for sale in most western countries now, tho cultivating pot is illegal...just look at the heroin/cocaine, also illegal but run and supported by 'you know who' and the indoor pot industry is NO DIFFERENT and is thriving.
This type of pot is not good for you period! It saddens me that I witness some of our young ppls consuming this type of pot. I believe it has been manipulated and promoted because it is bad for you, full of chemicals and produced by artificial light and a very high potency which is highly dangerous if consumed in any amount.

If one was to consume pot for health reasons, 'thinking' creativity etc then outdoor, organically produced is a far better option.

Peace

irishspirit
28th March 2010, 09:34
I oftern think of the quote "if God did not want people using Marijuana he wouldn't have put it as a natural plant on the earth". I think the benefits of this drug are huge if used correctly. I personally do not use it, however, people that are ill I can understand the reason why. However, this needs to be removed from Governments control. The Dutch system of having it legal I feel is FANTASTIC!

With regards to the brain cell growth element of it, if it is on mainstream Media, I will question it!

Tamara
28th March 2010, 10:10
Ha! I can tell this is going to be a looooooooooooooooong and popular thread!

It angers me that some invisible (to me personally) governmental structure has the right to tell ME what I can and can't do. I'm a responsible adult and I pre-think my actions prior to taking risks. Still, I know that some people do abuse the stuff, act out of sorts, harm others perhaps, but can't you law making peoples see from MY history that I'm not like that!

How I hate it when the minority ruins it for the majority.

morguana
28th March 2010, 13:28
Ha! I can tell this is going to be a looooooooooooooooong and popular thread!

It angers me that some invisible (to me personally) governmental structure has the right to tell ME what I can and can't do. I'm a responsible adult and I pre-think my actions prior to taking risks. Still, I know that some people do abuse the stuff, act out of sorts, harm others perhaps, but can't you law making peoples see from MY history that I'm not like that!

How I hate it when the minority ruins it for the majority.

couldnt agree more

it sickes me that herbs such a cannabis are banned, ethnobotanicals have been used for thousands of years for shamanic, spiritual and medicinal reasons.....way before alcohol was deliberatly made. with care and attention these plants have a benifical and positive reason for being, to me its like someone saying oh you cant injest valerian root or cabbages. how can a plant be banned? from use? madness. then of course tptb pump the population full of nasty chemicals, additives and e numbers in food/drinks, flouride in water, toothpaste (well not ours lol) crop spraying, spraying the air, dumping stuff in our water etc etc fed up with this insane world.......want out big time, feels like finding an unhabited island and live there, become a freeman (woman) and say sod the lot of them,
love m x

love m x

Solphilos
28th March 2010, 15:36
Couldn't agree more. Entheogenic plants have a long, shared history with the human species, and just about every civilization had at least one particular plant teacher in use.
Now, in these days most of these plants are shunned and the drugs of choice are caffeine, alcohol and nicotine, and look at the differences in our society as opposed to those who still use these plants for spiritual purposes!

Many of the answers sought by the average spiritual seeker, hell, by the average person in general, are available with proper use of many of the plants in question.
I have always questioned things from the beginning, cannabis made me aware of a higher levels of awareness, and Ayahuasca showed me directly the higher levels of being where it is quite obvious that we are all one, and that the illusion of separation in the manifest universe is simply that, an illusion; that there is no death, as through direct obliteration of the ego I was made aware of the limitlessness of consciousness, and how ludicrous it was that I could actually fit inside such a small body!
At this time I was an "average" person with no previous knowledge of this oneness that is spoken about in so many cultures and belief systems, it was all dumped on me in a four hour period with a simple cocktail made of a few wild botanicals. Most people follow a rigorous spiritual path for years before they reach this point; some still have not experienced it directly.
Imagine if such a large number of people across the world experienced this sort of thing; I think the world would change within weeks.

Axman
1st April 2010, 21:56
And alcohol is never made sense to me.

Candeisr
2nd April 2010, 14:42
With great regards to all you Divine Beings. Is it not better to achieve altered states of consciousness through focus and controlled concentration that through the ingestion of dubious physical substances. Our brains are the most fabulous organic receivers ever conceived IMHO and without them functioning perfectly one is certainly disabled and challenged. After all, one cannot cheat their way to Unlimited Consciousness. In the end we are what we focus upon. There are no wrong paths, only paths that lead to wisdom. My Blessings to you all.

Niobe
2nd April 2010, 15:35
It is no coinicidence that pot is illegal...it has been well known by the establishment that it helps to bridge the right hemisphere brain and promote 'free thinking' and creativity. This is a big nono! easier to dumb one down with alcohol and provide other illegal substances that restrict ones ability to function with there own mind. Of course anything used in access is bad for you...
Peace

Interesting topic as I was just talking about this yesterday! Completely agree with the comment by Ross, above, about alcohol and how it is promoted and pushed upon us- to keep sheeples dumbed down. And then if a person becomes addicted and wants to get better, what is the "approved" choice for them but AA. Into another form of dumbed down- telling people they are powerless and can't control themselves and only God will save them. I know some people may not like that statement about AA- but that's the way I see it and I've had plenty of experience in the arena of alcoholism.

Another interesting aspect that my friend pointed out to me yesterday about alcohol and our government- the big business of drunk driving. We were talking about how much money is made by the states (at least ours) when people are arrested for drunk driving. If people stopped drinking and consequently, drunk driving, there would be a lot of lost revenue for the states. I was at our local courthouse last week, and the docket for that week alone had at least 15 drunk driving hearings- many of them repeat offenders.

I also agree with various people's comments about pot and how it may assist some in opening their mind and thinking creatively. I have used it in the past for these purposes- when I am in a rut mentally, or stuck on an issue, sometimes it can help me to see things differently, in a positive light.

Niobe
2nd April 2010, 15:35
sorry for some reason I ended up posting the same message twice.

Solphilos
2nd April 2010, 15:50
With great regards to all you Divine Beings. Is it not better to achieve altered states of consciousness through focus and controlled concentration that through the ingestion of dubious physical substances. Our brains are the most fabulous organic receivers ever conceived IMHO and without them functioning perfectly one is certainly disabled and challenged. After all, one cannot cheat their way to Unlimited Consciousness. In the end we are what we focus upon. There are no wrong paths, only paths that lead to wisdom. My Blessings to you all.

Quite the contrary, I would like to respectfully disagree.

Psychedelic compounds offer the utmost potential for spiritual growth, depending on the individual.
I'm not speaking of just "dubious" substances, but plants that have been used for thousands of years by mankind, perhaps longer. Take Ayahuasca for instance. This mixture contains the psychedelic amine DMT, or Dimethyltryptamine.

When ingested, DMT acts almost immediately upon the serotonin receptors and the effects are felt almost immediately. One almost immediately feels the effects of the drug, which is very similar to advanced meditative states of consciousness. In my own personal experience, this includes entity contact, out of body travel, complete transcendence of the ego/personality complex, omnipresence, knowledge of future events, etc, etc.
After the effects begin to fade, they do so rapidly and one is left feeling quite blissful, even euphoric, with a sense of fulfillment and revitalized health. Not to mention several sessions in Brasil cured me of a chronic hearth issue that previously crippled my experience here.

There is also some evidence to support the theory that DMT is produced in the body, and the effects of DMT do indeed feel quite natural, with no side-effects as other drugs do.
After my own experiences, I could enter meditative states quite quickly and deeply, and my own journey to self-knowledge took a great leap forward. Sure, I would agree that one can achieve great things "naturally", i.e. without these plant helpers, but is it a "better" way? Hell no.

I agree, that our brains are fantastic receivers, but before one can receive anything clearly one must first learn how. With these chemical/plant tools, you can skip all of the B.S. that is out there in the world, most especially in the new age/spiritual community, and go directly to source.
Some may call it a shortcut, but this would also be an illusion, as if there is a shortcut, then we must make the assumption that we are after some goal that lies far beyond the horizon.
For those who believe such things, then no, there are no shortcuts, because for those, the distance and the journey may, in fact, be the destination.
For others, these plants may prove to be superior allies.
:hippie:

Candeisr
3rd April 2010, 14:49
Obviously you are quite passionate about this. All experience leads to wisdom. There are many tools in the toolbox for us to use. One needs to be wary of using the helpful tools until they become crutches.

Solphilos
3rd April 2010, 17:02
There are many tools in the toolbox for us to use. Indeed! That's one of the beautiful features of our situation here on earth; No matter who you are, or where you are on the planet, it is made certain that everyone has some sort of "wisdom-bringer" at their disposal, should they choose to utilize it. Some may have access to a good monastery, church, mystery school, etc., some may have an accident or trauma that elevates the state of consciousness, some have access to consciousness-expanding "drugs", some may meet a mr. holy-man-saint-swami-guru. Each and every way is valid; just different flavors for different people.
One needs to be wary of using the helpful tools until they become crutches. Fortunately, this is no problem. It's kind of like saying that meditation can be come a crutch. Both are just different ways of accessing higher realms of being, neither superior or inferior to the other, both equal, just different.

irishspirit
5th December 2010, 21:21
The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.

They say this is the first set of experiments to show that the compound, Delta-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), inhibits EGF-induced growth and migration in epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) expressing non-small cell lung cancer cell lines. Lung cancers that over-express EGFR are usually highly aggressive and resistant to chemotherapy.

THC that targets cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2 is similar in function to endocannabinoids, which are cannabinoids that are naturally produced in the body and activate these receptors. The researchers suggest that THC or other designer agents that activate these receptors might be used in a targeted fashion to treat lung cancer.

"The beauty of this study is that we are showing that a substance of abuse, if used prudently, may offer a new road to therapy against lung cancer," said Anju Preet, Ph.D., a researcher in the Division of Experimental Medicine.

http://preventdisease.com/news/10/120310_marijuana_cuts_tumor_growth.shtml

AlkaMyst
21st January 2011, 20:48
:wave: Hello Everyone,

Well, let me quote Rick Simpson on this one, since it is his documentary who could explain better what this is about!!!


My name is Rick Simpson. I have been providing people with Hemp Oil medicines, at no cost, for about three years. The results have been nothing short of amazing. Throughout man's history hemp has always been known as the most medicinal plant in the world. Even with this knowledge, hemp has always been used as a political and religious football. I want this knowledge out there for everyone to learn! Watch the documentary Run From The Cure to understand more about using cannabis as a cure for cancer and other medical problems!
The current restrictions against hemp were put in place and maintained, not because hemp is evil or harmful, but for big money to make more big money, while we suffer and die needlessly. Look at a proposal such as this; if we were allowed to grow hemp in our back yards and cure our own illnesses, what do you think the reaction of the pharmaceutical industry would be to such a plan?

Many large pharmaceutical companies that still exist today sold hemp based medicines in the 1800's and early 1900's. They knew then what I have recently found out. Hemp oil if produced properly is a cure-all that the pharmaceutical industry can't patent.

Now, Enjoy the film.......Click Here!!! (http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/Run_From_The_Cure/index.html)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

conk
26th January 2011, 19:18
Is benefit derived from smoking it or is there need to ingest just the oil extract? Not advocating smoking, just curious.

aikya
26th January 2011, 19:24
The link in the OP didn't work for me, so here's a link to the same video on youtube in case anyone else encounters the same difficulty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
There are other videos on this topic there too.

The Hemp plant is truly amazing and has so many benefits and uses, it's a tragedy that it is banned....but, of course, it's because it is so beneficial in so many ways that it has been banned.

AlkaMyst
26th January 2011, 19:44
conk

Is benefit derived from smoking it or is there need to ingest just the oil extract? Not advocating smoking, just curious.

No benefit to smoking as far as curing cancer....it must be ingested in oil for the size of a grain of rice, 3 times a day for 2-3 months. Cures any form of cancer, and has Dr.'s baffled!

aikya

The link in the OP didn't work for me, so here's a link to the same video on youtube in case anyone else encounters the same difficulty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
There are other videos on this topic there too.

The Hemp plant is truly amazing and has so many benefits and uses, it's a tragedy that it is banned....but, of course, it's because it is so beneficial in so many ways that it has been banned.

Thanks for the alternative, maybe you can't watch because is a divx movie and you just have to DL the plug-in for divx player at the bottom of the page. :)

Yes, the hemp plant is the most useful plant on the planet, period. Many are too naive to realize that they have been fooled for over 70 years now and it's time to wake up!!!....People need to look at the history of this great plant and understand all it's amazing uses, a great book to read is "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer which is available in the FTP is anyone is interested, also I have tons of documentaries and books on everything anyone may want to know about cannabis.

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

aikya
26th January 2011, 20:00
Thanks for the advice about the video!

Yes, a lifting of the restriction on hemp cultivation would help the world SO much.

Have you seen the video about Mme. France Perrier in France who is making houses from bricks made from hemp and lime, which is stronger and lighter than concrete? Apparently she's currently making about 300 houses a year, restricted only by the regulations which limit the amount of hemp she can produce. Here's a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRtDh6YUt-0

It's heartbreaking that this plant is banned.

I'll definitely check out the book. :)

AlkaMyst
26th January 2011, 20:15
Thanks for the advice about the video!

:yo: My pleasure!!!


Yes, a lifting of the restriction on hemp cultivation would help the world SO much.

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!


Have you seen the video about Mme. France Perrier in France who is making houses from bricks made from hemp and lime, which is stronger and lighter than concrete? Apparently she's currently making about 300 houses a year, restricted only by the regulations which limit the amount of hemp she can produce. Here's a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRtDh6YUt-0

Never hears of it, just watched the video.....AMAZING!!! Thanks so much for sharing this, now I have a new project! ;)


It's heartbreaking that this plant is banned.

Yes it is, but not for much longer!!!


I'll definitely check out the book.

Highly Recommended!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

str8thinker
26th January 2011, 20:55
Alcohol has been described as "a second-rate drug and a first-rate poison". I consider the same true of marijuana. What about all its adverse effects, particularly on short-term memory (http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm)? It might have some value in the treatment of cancer, but this doesn't justify its use as a recreational drug. (Disclaimer: I drink very little alcohol and have never smoked tobacco or pot.)

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 00:42
str8thinker

Alcohol has been described as "a second-rate drug and a first-rate poison". I consider the same true of marijuana. What about all its adverse effects, particularly on short-term memory? It might have some value in the treatment of cancer, but this doesn't justify its use as a recreational drug. (Disclaimer: I drink very little alcohol and have never smoked tobacco or pot.)

I respect your point of view, but on what basis you make the accusations that Cannabis is "First-Rate Poison"?......is it just based on the article you are pointing to above, that was written by "The American Council for Drug Education" which is a government agency and sponsored by Big Pharma themselves. I mean no disrespect, but before you begin making such statements you must first educate yourself on the subject, specially on the history of cannabis and the reasons for which it became illegal.

Since you presented your article above, now I'm going to show you mines so you can get a grasp on why cannabis is the best medicinal plant on the planet and why now 15 States (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000881) in the United States have legalize it....see here! (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000881) and here! (http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/index_se_cmu.htm) and also here!!! (http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/DrTodHMikuriya_list.htm)

Now here's a list of SOME of the diseases it treats.......

"Dr. Tod's List" - Chronic Conditions Treated With Cannabis

by Tod H. Mikuriya, M.D.


International Classification of Diseases 9 - CM 1996
Chronic Conditions Treated With Cannabis
Encountered Between 1990-2004
© 2004 Tod H. Mikuriya, M.D.

Genital Herpes 054.10
Herpetic infection of penis 054.13
AIDS Related Illness 042
Post W.E. Enephalitis 062.1
Chemotherapy Convales V66.2
Shingles (Herpes Zoster) 053.9
Radiation Therapy E929.9
Viral B Hepatitis, chronic 070.52
Viral C Hepatitis, chronic 070.54
Other arthropod bone disease 088
Lyme Disease 088.81
Reiters Syndrome 099.3
Post Polio Syndrome 138.0
Malignant Melanoma 172.9
Other Skin Cancer 173
Prostate Cancer 186
Testicular Cancer 186.9
Adrenal Cortical Cancer 194.0
Brain malignant tumor 191
Glioblastoma Multiforme 191.9
Cancer, site unspecified 199
Lympho & reticular ca 200
Myeloid leukemia 205
Uterine cancer 236.0
Lymphoma 238.7
Graves Disease** 242.0
Acquired hypothyroidsm 244
Thyroiditis 245
Diabetes Adult Onset 250.0
Diabetes Insulin Depend. 250.1
Diabetes Adult Onset Uncontrolled 250.2
Diabetic Renal Disease 250.4
Diabetic Ophthalmic Disease 250.5
Diabetic Neurpathy 250.6
Diabetic Peripheral Vascular Disease 250.7
Hypoglycemia(s) 251
Lipomatosis 272.8
Arthropathy, gout 274.0
Mucopolysaccharoidosis 277
Porphyria 277.1
Amyloidosis 277.3
Obesity, exogenous 278.00
Obesity, morbid 278.01
Autoimmune disease 279.4
Hemophilia A 286.0
Henoch-Schoelein Purpur 287.0
Senile Dementia+ 290.0
Delerium Tremens+ 291.0
Schizophrenia(s) 295.x
Schizoaffective Disorder 295.7
Mania 296.0
Major Depression, Single Episode 296.2
Major Depression, Recurring 296.3
Bipolar Disorder 296.6
Autism/Aspergers 299.0
Anxiety Disorder+ 300.00
Panic Disorder+ 300.01
Agoraphobia 300.22
Obsessive Compulsive Di. 300.3
Dysthymic Disorder 300.4
Neurasthenia 300.5
Writers’ Cramp**** 300.89
Impotence, Psychogenic 302.72
Alcoholism+ 303.0
Opiate Dependence+ 304.0
Sedative Dependence+ 304.1
Cocaine Dependence+ 304.2
Amphetamine Depend 304.4
Alcohol Abuse+ 305.0
Tobacco Dependence 305.1
Psychogenic Hyperhidrosi 306.3
Psychogenic Pylorospas** 306.4
Psychogenic Dysuria 306.53
Bruxism 306.8
Stuttering* 307.0
Anorexia Nervosa 307.1
Tic disorder unspecific 307.20
Tourette's Syndrome 307.23
Persistent Insomnia 307.42
Nightmares 307.47
Bulemia 307.51
Tension Headache 307.81
Psychogenic Pain 307.89
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder 309.81
Organic Mental Disorder hd inj 310.1
Post Concussion Sydrome 310.2
Nonpsychotic Organic Brain Disorder 310.8
Brain Trauma 310.9
Intermittent Explosive Disorder 312.34
Trichotillomania 312.39
ADD w/o hyperactivity 314.00
ADD w hyperactivity 314.01
ADD other 314.8
Pschogenic PAT 316.0
Parkinsons Disease 332.0
Huntingtons Disease+ 333.4
Restless legs syndrome 333.99
Friedreich’s Ataxia 334.0
Cerebellar Ataxia 334.4
Spinal mm atrophy II 335.11
Amytrophic Lateral Sclero 335.2
Other spinal cord disease 336
Syringomyelia 336.0
Reflex Sympath Dystroph 337.2
Multiple Sclerosis 340.0
Other CNS demyelinating 341
Hemiparesis/plegia 342
Cerebral Palsy+ 343.9
Quadriplegia(s) 344.0x
Paraplegia(s) 344.1x
Paralysis, unspecific 344.9
Epilepsy(ies)+ 345.x
Grand Mal Seizures** 345.1
Limbic Rage Syndrome** 345.4
Jacksonian Epilepsy** 345.5
Migraine(s)+ 346.x
Migraine, Classical+ 346.0
Cluster Headaches 346.2
Compression of Brain 348.4
Tic Doloroux+ 350.1
Bell’s palsy 351.0
Thoracic Outlet Synd 353.0
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome 354.0
Mononeuritis lower limb 355
Charcot-Marie-Tooth 356.1
Neuropathy+ 357
Muscular dystrophies 359
Macular Degeneration** 362.5
Glaucoma 365.23
Dyslexic Amblyopia** 368.0
Color Blindness* 368.55
Conjuctivitis 372.9
Drusen of Optic Nerve 377.21
Optic neuritis 377.30
Strabismus & other binoc 378
Nystagmus, Congenital 379.5
Meniere's Disease 386.00
Tinnitus 388.30
Hypertension+ 401.1
Ischemic Heart Disease 411.X
Angina pectoris 413
Arteriosclerotic Heart Dis 414.X
Cardiac conduction disord 426.X
Paroxysmal Atrial Tach** 427.0
Post Cardiotomy Syndrom 429.4
Raynaud’s Disease 443.0
Thromboangiitis Obliteran 443.1
Polyarteritis Nodosa 446.0
Acute Sinusitis 461.9
Chronic Sinusitis 473.9
Chronic Obst Pulmo Dis 491.90
Emphysema 492.8
Asthma, unspecific 493.9
Pneumothorax, Spontaneo 512.8
Pulmonary Fibrosis 516.3
Cystic Fibrosis 518.89
Dentofacial anomaly pain 524
T.M.J Sydrome 524.60
GastroEsophgeal Rflx Dis 530.81
Acute Gastritis 535.0
Gastritis+ 535.5
Peptic Ulcer/Dyspepsia 536.8
Colitis, Ulcerative 536.9
Pylorospasm Reflux 537.81
Regional Enteri & Crohns 555.9
Colitis+ 558.9
Colon diverticulitis 562.1
Constipation 564.0
Irritable Bowel Synd. 564.1
Dumping Syndrome Post Surgery 564.2
Peritoneal pain 568
Hepatitis-non-viral 571.4
Pancreatitis 577.1
Nephritis/nephropathy 583.81
Ureter spasm calculus 592
Urethritis/Cystitis 595.3
Prostatitis 600.0
Epididymitis** 604.xx
Testicular torsion 608.2
Pelvic Inflammatory Dis 614
Endometriosis** 617.9
Premenstrual Syndrome+ 625.3
Pain, Vaginal 625.9
Menopausal syndrome 627.2
Sturge-Weber Disease 759.6
Eczema 692.9
Pemphigus 694.4
Epidermolysis Bullosa 694.9
Erythma Multiforma 695.1
Rosacea 695.3
Psoriatic Arthritis 696.0
Psoriasis 696.1
Pruritus, pruritic+ 698.9
Atrophy Blanche 701.3
Alopecia 704.0x
Lupus 710.0
Scleroderma 710.1
Dermatomyositis 710.3
Eosinophilia-Myalgia Syn. 710.5
Arthritis, Rheumatoid+ 714.0
Felty’s Syndrome 714.1
Arthritis, Degenerative 715.0
Arthritis, post traumatic+ 716.1
Arthropathy, Degenerative+ 716.9
Patellar chondromalacia 717.7
Ankylosis 718.5
Multiple joints pain 719.49
Intervertebral Disk Disease 722.x
L-S disk disorder sciatic nerve irritation 722.1
IVDD Cerv w Myelopathy 722.71
Cervical Disk Disease 722.91
Cervicobrachial Syndrome 723.3
Lumbosacral Back Diseas 724.x
Spinal Stenosis 724.02
Lower Back Pain 724.5
Peripheral enthesopathies 726
Tenosynovitis 727.x
Dupuytens Contracture 728.6
Muscle Spasm 728.85
Fibromyagia/Fibrositis 729.1
Osgood-Schlatter 732.4
Tietze’s Syndrome 733.6
Melorheostosis 733.99
Spondylolisthesis** 738.4
Cerebral Aneurism 747.81
Scoliosis 754.2
Spina Bifida Occulta 756.17
Osteogenesis imperfecta 756.51
Ehlers Danlos Syndrom 756.83
Nail patella syndrome 756.89
Peutz-Jehgers Syndrome** 756.9
Mastocytosis 757.33
Darier’s Disease 757.39
Marfan syndrome 759.82
Sturge-Weber Eye Syndrome** 759.6
Insomnia+ 780.52
Sleep Apnea 780.57
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome 780.7
Tremor/Invol Movements 781.0
Myofacial Pain Syndrome**782.0
Anorexia+ 783.0
Hyperventilation 786.01
Cough+ 786.2
Hiccough+ 786.8
Vomiting 787.01
Nausea+ 787.02
Diarrhea 787.91
Pain, Ureter 788.0
Cachexia 799.4
Vertebral dislocation unspecific 839.4
Whiplash 847.0
Back Sprain 847.9
Shoulder Injury Unspec 959.2
Fore Arm/Wrist/Hand 959.3
Hip 959.6
Knee, ankle & foot injury 959.7
Motion Sickness 994.6
Anaphylactic or Reaction 995.0
Trachoria Growths***1 ???.?

+ Represents citations from pre-1937 medical literature
*From Eugene Schoenfeld, M.D.
**From Dale Gieringer, PhD CA NORML Hotline
***From Robert Wilson, Hayward Hempery
**** Barry R. McCaffrey
12-30-96 Press Conference
(quote from John Stuart Mill 1867)

Now what this here......

Part-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26WhkE6iRFw&feature=related

Part-2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqgdnJbJHBg&feature=related

Part-3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPqj3exMHeo&feature=related

Also see this documentary below!

The Union - The Business Behind Getting High

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqJO-RFQfHk

And in case that wasn't enough, the links below are the documentary "Emperor of Hemp" which is based on the book I also attached "The Emperor Wears No Clothes - by Jack Herer".

Part-1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xt-IlJLlD8

Part-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F26HsaJC-k0&feature=related

Part-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rDxurrn9M&feature=related

Part-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6HMlwTj_co&feature=related


PS
This is just the tip of the iceberg......I got lots more material that I can provide to those wanting to educate themselves on this very important and sacred plant!!! :)

By the way, also check this out (Just couldn't help myself)......Pediatrics and Medicinal Cannabis, with Ethan Russo, MD (http://www.truveo.com/Pediatrics-and-Medicinal-Cannabis-with-Ethan-Russo/id/4098999718)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

daledo
27th January 2011, 01:21
Sorry the video i posted was on the thread already. The Union is a great video to watch.

farmin8r
27th January 2011, 02:05
I have diverticular disease and my intestine burst 4 years ago was 8 hours before i went to hospital so my system was highly poisoned.When the staples came out of my stomach it just burst open again so had 2 let the open wound heal itself due 2 infection plus they didnt want to risk me in theatre again.took a very painful year to heal up.i used marijuana as a pain killer (self prescribed).Worked a treat also enjoy the recreational side affects.Aint gonna be legal you cant patent it.

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 03:24
daledo

The Union is a great video to watch.

Yes it is, I MUST Agree!!!

farmin8r

I have diverticular disease and my intestine burst 4 years ago was 8 hours before i went to hospital so my system was highly poisoned.When the staples came out of my stomach it just burst open again so had 2 let the open wound heal itself due 2 infection plus they didnt want to risk me in theatre again.took a very painful year to heal up.i used marijuana as a pain killer (self prescribed).Worked a treat also enjoy the recreational side affects.Aint gonna be legal you cant patent it.

I am really sorry to hear how this terrible thing happened to you, but I'm also glad to hear that you medicated your pains with cannabis (all natural) and maybe because of that you're not one of the millions of people suffering from pharmaceutical side effects. Tho I have to disagree on one thing and that is that I see cannabis being legal withing the next 10 years!.....Besides, I will never allow the government or anyone tell me how I should medicate myself. :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

str8thinker
27th January 2011, 06:43
Thanks for all the responses to my post, but I'm still not impressed enough by what Rick Simpson says to risk exposing my body to THC to cure "cancer", unless every other avenue was exhausted.

One of the basic principles of the medical profession is that of primum non nocere, which translates as "your first obligation is not to do any harm", i.e., to make the disease worse than it was beforehand. This is because, statistically, the risk of doing harm by trying something new is usually greater than the possibility of doing good, unless one knows what one's doing.

In the light of this, Rick Simpson's anecdotal results seem more like happy accidents than serious research. Here are some quotes from Yahoo! Answers:


Can hemp oil cure cancer?
There has been a video circulating around the internet about a guy who claims that hemp oil can cure cancer. It sounds idiotic to me but I was wondering what other people think. Here is the video:

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
This time instead of just saying no, I decided to watch it. And I'm even more convinced that it's rubbish.

The part I saw was a number of unsubstantiated testimonials - no way of knowing if these people had ever had the conditions they claimed, and certainly no way of knowing if they'd been 'cured'.

But I'll accept they had those conditions. And as I've had cancer, the ones who'd had cancer were the ones to whom I paid most attention. And you know what? - they'd had conventional treatment too, but had chosen to credit the hemp oil with the improvement in their condition.

This often happens with alternative treatments - a patient has chemo and feels crap, because chemo makes you feel crap. After the chemo is over, s/he takes some 'alternative' medicine; soon s/he begins to feel better. Well, that's no surprise, you do begin to feel better when chemo is over. But s/he chooses to give the credit for feeling better, and for subsequent improvements in her/his condition, to the unproven alternative rather than to the conventional treatments, which have been rigourously tested and proven in double-blind clinical trials.

And that's what's happened here.

I had surgery, chemo and radiotherapy four years ago for an aggressive, advanced cancer; I am fit and well, with no sign of cancer at my last routine check-up. Chemo and rads aren't perfect, far from it; but we know because they have been tested and proven that they save many lives and prolong many others. The cancer patients in the film are fit and well following conventional treatment too.

And anything that claims to cure everything from cancer to weight problems to insomnia has to be regarded with suspicion at best

Hemp oil is made from the rope type of the hemp plant and is already available in any health food store and many large grocery store vitamin departments. It contains no THC and is not active pharmacologically.

What this video is talking about is hash oil made from strong marijuana. If this hash - hemp oil cured cancer then the cancer rate in California and Oregon would already be much lower. This film is one of many that have been made by pro-marijuana activists who are trying to get medical marijuana legalized in more states. While I believe that in certain limited situations medical marijuana certainly has it's place in the Dr's choice of medicinal options I am not sure that all the claims made in this set of videos (which I did not complete watching) are true by any means. A small amount of ingested hash oil would keep most adults plastered to the floor for half a day and I certainly would not want people driving or operating machinery who had been ingesting hash oil.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080410073847AAb6zYx

Can Cannabis oil really cure colon cancer?

Hemp oil is a great oil with a great source of Omega-3's and it will cure cancer if used in the right ratio with other raw, unheated, minimally processed oils. But, like I said, just taking the oil is only part of the solution.

As I understand it, Hemp oil is beneficial because it contains Omega-3's. I am unsure if there are any other added benefits to using hemp oil. You should read Udo Erasmus' book "Fats that heal, fats the kill." That should give you some insight on the use and processing of oils; their importance and their role in healing disease.

...did you know that conventionally processed oils are first submerged in Hexane (gasoline) in order to dissolve the shell of the seed?? Or that hydrogenated oils are oils that were reacted with cadmuim, nickel or aluminum??? Of course, it is washed out. But let me ask you this, would you use a safety pin after it fell in an unflushed toilet just because it was 'washed' out??? The fact is that you are consuming an unnecessary amount of cancer-causing hexane in your oils when there are simply better more reasonable options.

So more importantly, I would like to know what chemicals were used on this cannabis oil and how it was processed before I used it to solve any of my health concerns.

The evidence is inconclusive.

There is a body of evidence which shows that cannabis oil cures some cancers; and it certainly relieves the nausea which goes with cancer treatments such as radiation and chemotherapy, as well as alleviating cluster headaches (a particularly vicious and disabling form of migraine headache).

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090719190445AA43j8o

I agree with these comments. If you ingest hemp oil containing THC, you will be STONED till it wears off - no question about it. Rick fails to mention this. THC is useful to alleviate nausea induced by chemotherapy, also of help in glaucoma, but just as there are many different types of cancer, so there are many different optimum dosages and considerations in treating different conditions. At least the dosage in Big Pharma products has been worked out, so you know what to expect.

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 18:27
Thanks for all the responses to my post, but I'm still not impressed enough by what Fred Simpson says to risk exposing my body to THC to cure "cancer", unless every other avenue was exhausted.

I respect your opinion str8thinker, doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.....but let me just ask you this, How Many People Have Died From The Use Of Cannabis throughout History? Let me help you on this one "0", but don't take my word for it and go find out for yourself!!! :)


One of the basic principles of the medical profession is that of primum non nocere, which translates as "your first obligation is not to do any harm", i.e., to make the disease worse than it was beforehand. This is because, statistically, the risk of doing harm by trying something new is usually greater than the possibility of doing good, unless one knows what one's doing.

This clearly shows me that you never read or saw any of the material I posted above for if you did, you would not have posted this comment "your first obligation is not to do any harm".....Tell me what are they doing to you when they give people Chemo? THEY ARE PUTTING RADIATION IN ONE"S BODY, but that does no harm right? or did you not know that Chemo turns your body into a walking waste land!!!.....cannabis has been used medicinally for thousands of years (look at it's history) and all of the sudden in 1937 someone comes up with ridiculous and false information to make it illegal for the purpose of making money.

Did you know that 90% of the drugs in the market have not been FDA approved and they give them to the public after only a 90 trial run.....Now tell me how they can possibly know what long term side effect will raise due to the use of the drug. pharmaceuticals kill more people around the world every year then all of the drugs on the planet, alcohol and cigarettes combined and you tell me you rather put that stuff in your body....."More Power to you". The mind control goes deeper than anyone thinks!!!


In the light of this, Fred Simpson's anecdotal results seem more like happy accidents than serious research. Here are some quotes from Yahoo! Answers:

And this is what you are basing your argument on, Yahoo Answers?.....Are you serious?


Can hemp oil cure cancer?
There has been a video circulating around the internet about a guy who claims that hemp oil can cure cancer. It sounds idiotic to me but I was wondering what other people think. Here is the video:

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
This time instead of just saying no, I decided to watch it. And I'm even more convinced that it's rubbish.

The part I saw was a number of unsubstantiated testimonials - no way of knowing if these people had ever had the conditions they claimed, and certainly no way of knowing if they'd been 'cured'.

But I'll accept they had those conditions. And as I've had cancer, the ones who'd had cancer were the ones to whom I paid most attention. And you know what? - they'd had conventional treatment too, but had chosen to credit the hemp oil with the improvement in their condition.

This often happens with alternative treatments - a patient has chemo and feels crap, because chemo makes you feel crap. After the chemo is over, s/he takes some 'alternative' medicine; soon s/he begins to feel better. Well, that's no surprise, you do begin to feel better when chemo is over. But s/he chooses to give the credit for feeling better, and for subsequent improvements in her/his condition, to the unproven alternative rather than to the conventional treatments, which have been rigourously tested and proven in double-blind clinical trials.

And that's what's happened here.

I had surgery, chemo and radiotherapy four years ago for an aggressive, advanced cancer; I am fit and well, with no sign of cancer at my last routine check-up. Chemo and rads aren't perfect, far from it; but we know because they have been tested and proven that they save many lives and prolong many others. The cancer patients in the film are fit and well following conventional treatment too.

And anything that claims to cure everything from cancer to weight problems to insomnia has to be regarded with suspicion at best

Hemp oil is made from the rope type of the hemp plant and is already available in any health food store and many large grocery store vitamin departments. It contains no THC and is not active pharmacologically.

What this video is talking about is hash oil made from strong marijuana. If this hash - hemp oil cured cancer then the cancer rate in California and Oregon would already be much lower. This film is one of many that have been made by pro-marijuana activists who are trying to get medical marijuana legalized in more states. While I believe that in certain limited situations medical marijuana certainly has it's place in the Dr's choice of medicinal options I am not sure that all the claims made in this set of videos (which I did not complete watching) are true by any means. A small amount of ingested hash oil would keep most adults plastered to the floor for half a day and I certainly would not want people driving or operating machinery who had been ingesting hash oil.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0073847AAb6zYx

Can Cannabis oil really cure colon cancer?

Hemp oil is a great oil with a great source of Omega-3's and it will cure cancer if used in the right ratio with other raw, unheated, minimally processed oils. But, like I said, just taking the oil is only part of the solution.

As I understand it, Hemp oil is beneficial because it contains Omega-3's. I am unsure if there are any other added benefits to using hemp oil. You should read Udo Erasmus' book "Fats that heal, fats the kill." That should give you some insight on the use and processing of oils; their importance and their role in healing disease.

...did you know that conventionally processed oils are first submerged in Hexane (gasoline) in order to dissolve the shell of the seed?? Or that hydrogenated oils are oils that were reacted with cadmuim, nickel or aluminum??? Of course, it is washed out. But let me ask you this, would you use a safety pin after it fell in an unflushed toilet just because it was 'washed' out??? The fact is that you are consuming an unnecessary amount of cancer-causing hexane in your oils when there are simply better more reasonable options.

So more importantly, I would like to know what chemicals were used on this cannabis oil and how it was processed before I used it to solve any of my health concerns.

The evidence is inconclusive.

There is a body of evidence which shows that cannabis oil cures some cancers; and it certainly relieves the nausea which goes with cancer treatments such as radiation and chemotherapy, as well as alleviating cluster headaches (a particularly vicious and disabling form of migraine headache).

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9190445AA43j8o


...did you know that conventionally processed oils are first submerged in Hexane (gasoline) in order to dissolve the shell of the seed?? Or that hydrogenated oils are oils that were reacted with cadmuim, nickel or aluminum??? Of course, it is washed out. But let me ask you this, would you use a safety pin after it fell in an unflushed toilet just because it was 'washed' out??? The fact is that you are consuming an unnecessary amount of cancer-causing hexane in your oils when there are simply better more reasonable options.

Obviously, this person has never watched Rick's Documentary for if they did, this would have been answered for them (again, no basis for their argument)......I can make the oil and I will tell you that the statement above is complete rubbish!!!

Now that you showed the rubbish and incoherent statements made by people in Yahoo (Which by the way, have no medical training whatsoever), I will show you what real Dr.'s have to say about the same thing.....(See Below!)

Source (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1393)

For which symptoms or conditions might marijuana provide relief?

General Reference (not clearly pro or con)
The US Government Accountability Office (GAO) noted the following symptoms or conditions under Appendix IV of their Nov. 2002 report titled "Descriptions of Allowable Conditions under State Medical Marijuana Laws":

1. Alzheimer's Disease
2. Anorexia
3. AIDS
4. Arthritis
5. Cachexia
6. Cancer
7. Crohn's Disease
8. Epilepsy
9. Glaucoma
10. HIV
11. Migraine
12. Multiple Sclerosis
13. Nausea
14. Pain
15. Spasticity
16. Wasting Syndrome"


Nov. 2002 - US Government Accountability Office (GAO)

Lester Grinspoon, MD, Emeritus Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, wrote in a Mar. 1, 2007 editorial in the Boston Globe titled "Marijuana as Wonder Drug":

"The mountain of accumulated anecdotal evidence that pointed the way to the present [marijuana as treatment for HIV neuropathic pain] and other clinical studies also strongly suggests there are a number of other devastating disorders and symptoms for which marijuana has been used for centuries; they deserve the same kind of careful, methodologically sound research.

While few such studies have so far been completed, all have lent weight to what medicine already knew but had largely forgotten or ignored: Marijuana is effective at relieving nausea and vomiting, spasticity, appetite loss, certain types of pain, and other debilitating symptoms. And it is extraordinarily safe -- safer than most medicines prescribed every day. If marijuana were a new discovery rather than a well-known substance carrying cultural and political baggage, it would be hailed as a wonder drug."


Mar. 1, 2007 - Lester Grinspoon, MD

Ethan Russo, MD, clinical neurologist, researcher and author, told ProCon.org in a Dec. 17, 2001 email that marijuana might provide relief for the following:

# "Migraine,
# neuropathic pain,
# post-amputation pain,
# neuropathy,
# trigeminal neuralgia,
# rheumatoid arthritis,
# multiple sclerosis,
# nausea of cancer chemotherapy,
# AIDS wasting,
# motion sickness,
# menstrual cramps,
#
glaucoma, etc."

Dec. 17, 2001 - Ethan Russo, MD

Tod H. Mikuriya, MD, a psychiatrist and Addiction Medicine Specialist, published on the internet on Feb. 21, 2001 his report titled "International Classification of Diseases 9 - CM 1996, Chronic Conditions Treated With Cannabis, Encountered Between 1990-2001." (The ICD-9 numbers are the International Classification of Diseases used by all physicians.):

Click here to view full list. (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1393)

Feb. 12, 2001 - Tod Mikuriya, MD

National Institute of Mental Health's (NIMH) Laboratory of Cellular and Molecular Regulation, IRP, noted on the NIMH website, updated Jan. 25, 2002:

"Electrophysiological, neurochemical, and behavioral studies have shown that cannabinoids (marijuana-like drugs) suppress pain neurotransmission. [...]

We think that these results have implications for how cannabinoids may work in chronic pain states. A differential anatomical basis underlying cannabinoid and mu opioid modulation of primary afferent transmission is supported. Whereas mu opioid receptors in spinal cord are associated predominantly with thin-diameter primary afferents, cannabinoid receptors are localized to both thin and coarse diameter fibers.

These differences may provide a basis for the possibility that cannabinoids may relieve pain when traditional opiate drugs fail."

Jan. 25, 2002 - National Institute of Mental Health

The UK's Medicinal Cannabis Research Foundation published on its website in Nov. 2001:

"Research to date suggests that research into the medicinal uses of cannabis and cannabinoids has the potential to make exciting breakthroughs in the management of severe symptoms such as pain, spasm, bladder dysfunction and nausea and could therefore bring a dramatic improvement in quality of life for people with:


AIDS wasting syndrome Glaucoma
Alzheimer's disease Hypertension
Arthritis Multiple sclerosis
Asthma Nail Patella Syndrome
Brain injury/stroke Nausea w/chemotherapy
Crohn's/colitis Pain
Depress./mental ill. Phantom limb pain
Eating disorders Migraine
Epilepsy Spinal cord injury
Fibromyalgia

Tourette's syndrome

Here's another link to another medical report.......http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000884

And another................http://norml.org/pdf_files/ReviewofHumanStudies.pdf

Here.........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis

Here.......http://www.cannabis-med.org/data/pdf/en_2010_01_special.pdf

Source (http://breakthematrix.com/alternatives/top-10-cannabis-studies-the-government-wished-it-had-never-funded/)
And What do we make about this here......

Top 10 Cannabis Studies the Government Wished it Had Never Funded

10) MARIJUANA USE HAS NO EFFECT ON MORTALITY:
A massive study of California HMO members funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found marijuana use caused no significant increase in mortality. Tobacco use was associated with increased risk of death. Sidney, S et al. Marijuana Use and Mortality. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 87 No. 4, April 1997. p. 585-590. Sept. 2002.

9) HEAVY MARIJUANA USE AS A YOUNG ADULT WON’T RUIN YOUR LIFE:
Veterans Affairs scientists looked at whether heavy marijuana use as a young adult caused long-term problems later, studying identical twins in which one twin had been a heavy marijuana user for a year or longer but had stopped at least one month before the study, while the second twin had used marijuana no more than five times ever. Marijuana use had no significant impact on physical or mental health care utilization, health-related quality of life, or current socio-demographic characteristics. Eisen SE et al. Does Marijuana Use Have Residual Adverse Effects on Self-Reported Health Measures, Socio-Demographics or Quality of Life? A Monozygotic Co-Twin Control Study in Men. Addiction. Vol. 97 No. 9. p.1083-1086. Sept.
1997

8) THE “GATEWAY EFFECT” MAY BE A MIRAGE:
Marijuana is often called a “gateway drug” by supporters of prohibition, who point to statistical “associations” indicating that persons who use marijuana are more likely to eventually try hard drugs than those who never use marijuana – implying that marijuana use somehow causes hard drug use. But a model developed by RAND Corp. researcher Andrew Morral demonstrates that these associations can be explained “without requiring a gateway effect.” More likely, this federally funded study suggests, some people simply have an underlying propensity to try drugs, and start with what’s most readily available. Morral AR, McCaffrey D and Paddock S. Reassessing the Marijuana Gateway Effect. Addiction. December 2002. p. 1493-1504.

7) PROHIBITION DOESN’T WORK (PART I):
The White House had the National Research Council examine the data being gathered about drug use and the effects of U.S. drug policies. NRC concluded, “the nation possesses little information about the effectiveness of current drug policy, especially of drug law enforcement.” And what data exist show “little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions prescribed for drug use and prevalence or frequency of use.” In other words, there is no proof that prohibition – the cornerstone of U.S. drug policy for a century – reduces drug use. National Research Council. Informing America’s Policy on Illegal Drugs: What We Don’t Know Keeps Hurting Us. National Academy Press, 2001. p. 193.

6) PROHIBITION DOESN’T WORK (PART II):
DOES PROHIBITION CAUSE THE “GATEWAY EFFECT”?): U.S. and Dutch researchers, supported in part by NIDA, compared marijuana users in San Francisco, where non-medical use remains illegal, to Amsterdam, where adults may possess and purchase small amounts of marijuana from regulated businesses. Looking at such parameters as frequency and quantity of use and age at onset of use, they found no differences except one: Lifetime use of hard drugs was significantly lower in Amsterdam, with its “tolerant” marijuana policies. For example, lifetime crack cocaine use was 4.5 times higher in San Francisco than Amsterdam. Reinarman, C, Cohen, PDA, and Kaal, HL. The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy: Cannabis in Amsterdam and San Francisco. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 94, No. 5. May 2004. p. 836-842.

5) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART I):
Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice’s lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

4) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER, (PART II):
In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, “in a dose-dependent manner” (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, “Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer,” AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

3) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART III):
Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn’t also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

2) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART IV):
Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

1) MARIJUANA DOES HAVE MEDICAL VALUE:
In response to passage of California’s medical marijuana law, the White House had the Institute of Medicine (IOM) review the data on marijuana’s medical benefits and risks. The IOM concluded, “Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety are all afflictions of wasting, and all can be mitigated by marijuana.” While noting potential risks of smoking, the report added, “we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting.” The government’s refusal to acknowledge this finding caused co-author John A. Benson to tell the New York Times that the government “loves to ignore our report … they would rather it never happened.” Joy, JE, Watson, SJ, and Benson, JA. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press. 1999. p. 159. See also, Harris, G. FDA Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana. New York Times. Apr. 21, 2006


But I guess the above it's Non-Sense Right?



I agree with these comments. If you ingest hemp oil containing THC, you will be STONED till it wears off - no question about it. Fred fails to mention this. THC is useful to alleviate nausea induced by chemotherapy, also of help in glaucoma, but just as there are many different types of cancer, so there are many different optimum dosages and considerations in treating different conditions. At least the dosage in Big Pharma products has been worked out, so you know what to expect.

It is your decision and it must be respected, but it is not wise of you to make certain assumptions about the subject without first fully educating yourself for people will take those and run with it and therefore prevents them from really knowing the truth!!!

This subject is just like any other we try to discuss here, where one person hears something from someone else and then they fully entrust and believe it without doing their own research and it is a sad thing to see!!!


At least the dosage in Big Pharma products has been worked out, so you know what to expect.

YES.....DEATH!!! Remember that Big Pharma only treats the disease, they don't cure it.

PS
Just so you are better informed, what causes cancer to disappear is not the THC, it's the CBD (Cannabidiol) and CBN (Cannabinol) that treats the disease, but I guess you already knew that didn't you?.....Again, I mean no disrespect but I'm very passionate about this and I will not allowed people to be misinformed by others when they have not done 1 once of research!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Gajanana
27th January 2011, 18:35
After 25 years of crushing migraine and every kind of mind-numbing medicine, 3 puffs of mild home-grown took away an attack within minutes. I have repeated the same treatment twice since. It has been so effective, I still am not convinced (wierd I know) that it was the herb. 3 out of 3 aint bad, but lets see what the future holds.... :hippie:

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 18:42
Ganjanana

After 25 years of crushing migraine and every kind of mind-numbing medicine, 3 puffs of mild home-grown took away an attack within minutes. I have repeated the same treatment twice since. It has been so effective, I still am not convinced (wierd I know) that it was the herb. 3 out of 3 aint bad, but lets see what the future holds.... :hippie:

My best friend had the same migraine problems (it was so bad, that she couldn't even speak and had to be in complete isolation due to noise which intensified the pains) and after using cannabis, it has never been an issue again!!! :)

I'm glad that this is working for you also, and trust me "It is the Plant that is Helping you".............good luck!!!

PS

3 puffs of mild home-grown took away an attack within minutes.

By the way, the best way to go about it is to grow your own medicine....the stuff you get from other people is CRAP!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Sol Phoenix
27th January 2011, 18:44
I have never smoked or inhaled this substance, but, I have eaten it RAW. The fresh leaf from a 12ft plant melts in your mouth. From research I have done, this plant is one of the most important objects on this planet.

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 18:49
Sol Phoenix

I have never smoked or inhaled this substance, but, I have eaten it RAW. The fresh leaf from a 12ft plant melts in your mouth. From research I have done, this plant is one of the most important objects on this planet.

Thank you, I am most humbled at your comment and it is great that more and more people are realizing it great medicinal value. I never promoted the smoking of it, all I'm trying to do is show it's medicinal value that could be used and extracted from it in other forms. Their leaves are great to chew on when one is experiencing tooth aches (I also chew them from time to time.) :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Teakai
27th January 2011, 22:56
I remember at one time - before I woke up to the system - when somebody said to me that the reason marijuana/hemp was illegal was because the government wanted you working and paying taxes.
I just laughed because I thought she was making a joke.

Now, I think there's a lot to that - maybe not so much as it being about working and paying taxes - but the system doesn't want people being responsible for its own health care. Big pharma doesn't make money that way.
And considering the mint they make on the effects of stress alone, well, it's no wonder they have made it illegal. Certainly it's not because they're concerned for our heath - flouridated water lays rest to any concern they may have over our general well being.

As far as people abusing the uses of marijuana/hemp - that is simply a sign that people are desperately unhappy with this unnnatural system in which they live and are trying to escape it. Remove the marijuana and they will escape it through other drugs and/or alcohol - with far more lasting damage, to the health of others as well as their own.

Abuse of anything is unhealthy and reveals an underlying psychological problem.

Personally, I don't think anybody in this world has the right to tell you what plant you can and can't take from this green earth - and imo people who believe marijuana/hemp is bad or unhealthy have merely been influenced by the government/media propoganda about it.

Rozzy
27th January 2011, 22:57
It is not the smoking of Hemp that is being promoted as helpful, it is the ingestion of the Hemp oil that is promoted as having the medicinal effect and curative properties.

slipknotted
27th January 2011, 23:38
its the same thing but eating it is better.

slipknotted
27th January 2011, 23:43
cant wait to get my drug test done its been a year since getting high i have 4 disc's in my lower back the bulged and herniated its great for me i would rather do that than taking meds all my life for pain

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 23:45
Teakai

I remember at one time - before I woke up to the system - when somebody said to me that the reason marijuana/hemp was illegal was because the government wanted you working and paying taxes.
I just laughed because I thought she was making a joke.

I have hear that one before also.....LMAO! :lol:


Now, I think there's a lot to that - maybe not so much as it being about working and paying taxes - but the system doesn't want people being responsible for its own health care. Big pharma doesn't make money that way.

My point EXACTLY!!!


And considering the mint they make on the effects of stress alone, well, it's no wonder they have made it illegal. Certainly it's not because they're concerned for our heath - flouridated water lays rest to any concern they may have over our general well being.

Preach on Teakai, Preach On!.....Now that's a good one, why isn't anybody questioning the fluoride??? Now that causes some really long term problems, but who cares just forget about the fluoride and let's concentrate on pot (A natural plant) which KILLS YOU and It gives us a reason why to spend $80 billion (YESSSS....you read that right $80 BILLION DOLLARS) of your tax money to fight the War On Drugs or should I say "THE WAR ON POT" because it has no medicinal value and it KILLS!!!.......Give me a break!!!


As far as people abusing the uses of marijuana/hemp - that is simply a sign that people are desperately unhappy with this unnnatural system in which they live and are trying to escape it. Remove the marijuana and they will escape it through other drugs and/or alcohol - with far more lasting damage, to the health of others as well as their own.

Right On!!!!.....Ain't that the TRUTH!!!


Abuse of anything is unhealthy and reveals an underlying psychological problem.

With all due respect my dear friend, I would have to disagree on this one!....We humans are abusive by nature and we abuse many things on a daily basis, for example: "Being in this Forum or the Internet all day long" that's abusive!....but the question comes in is who's anyone to tell anyone when they are abusing something or not as the tolerance varies from person to person. We (Humans) are not on this planet to judge anyone but on the contrary to help one another and sincerely think about it!, there's not a day that goes by where we don't judge someone......we do it without knowing and we think that the only way that people should see the worlds is exactly as we see it and that's an impossible thing to ask of anybody as no two people perceive the world in the same manner!!!


Personally, I don't think anybody in this world has the right to tell you what plant you can and can't take from this green earth - and imo people who believe marijuana/hemp is bad or unhealthy have merely been influenced by the government/media propoganda about it.

This is exactly my point.....No one should be allowed to tell anyone what they should or should not take as far as their health is concern, it's your body and the decision lies on the person themselves!!! :)

PS
Thank you for your input Teakai.....It's very much valued and appreciated!!!

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Rozzy

It is not the smoking of Hemp that is being promoted as helpful, it is the ingestion of the Hemp oil that is promoted as having the medicinal effect and curative properties.

You hit it right on the spot......Thank you Rozzy!!! :yo:

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

AlkaMyst
27th January 2011, 23:51
slipknoted

cant wait to get my drug test done its been a year since getting high i have 4 disc's in my lower back the bulged and herniated its great for me i would rather do that than taking meds all my life for pain

I'm quite sorry to hear that you are in constant pain.....Why do you have to wait for a drug test?.....I don't quite understand?

Well, I tell you that taking cannabis for pain is the safest thing on the planet, and there are no side effects either!!!.....did you know that at least 500 people die every year of Aspirin alone?

How many from Cannabis? :)


its the same thing but eating it is better.

BINGO.......DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!


Blessings,
AlkaMyst

pilotsimone
27th January 2011, 23:58
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AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 00:09
pilotsimone

Just when I thought I couldn't love you anymore, AlkaMyst. You go and post something this smart and this important.

Thank you and keep shining the Light! Clearly, the 'Reefer Madness' hoax is on it's last leg.


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Thank you so much my friend, I'm most humbled at your comment.... :yo:

And just remember that You and Chris are always on my prayers......Much Love, Peace and Blessings!!!

AlkaMyst

benevolentcrow
28th January 2011, 00:28
I am always looking for alternative medicine that works. Here is a web site that might help some. http://phoenixtears.ca/

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 00:39
benevolentcrow

I am always looking for alternative medicine that works. Here is a web site that might help some. http://phoenixtears.ca/

WOW, Nice......Thanks so much benevolentcrow, I wasn't aware of this site....I'm researching it as we speak, it's nice to see that Rick's Work and Word are getting out.

Just for those who don't know, this man has been incarcerated for growing and sharing this medicine with terminal ill patients for free......HE DIDN"T MAKE ANY MONEY!!!!

I guess that's what you get when you try and help humanity!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

NunoSav
28th January 2011, 00:43
From all the research i've done on Cannabis/Hemp i came to the conclusion this plant is truly remarkable.

Its vast industrial use with no need for pesticides/herbicides or the danger of deforestation since it grows in 4 months and can be done indoors non-stop all year. The biggest cash crop in the world.

Its Medicine uses were already discussed in previous posts, i mostly agree with AlkaMyst.

Obviously this plant represents a great threat to some fat cats (big business) such as oil industry and pharmaceutics.

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 01:36
NunoSav


From all the research i've done on Cannabis/Hemp i came to the conclusion this plant is truly remarkable.

I believe you, and thank you for sharing this....it's hard not to see this once you really research the issue at hand!!!


Its vast industrial use with no need for pesticides/herbicides or the danger of deforestation since it grows in 4 months and can be done indoors non-stop all year. The biggest cash crop in the world.

:) Yes it is.....this is where all the money for the "War On Drugs" goes to, I wonder why???


Its Medicine uses were already discussed in previous posts, i mostly agree with AlkaMyst.

Thank you NunoSav! I really appreciate it. :yo:


Obviously this plant represents a great threat to some fat cats (big business) such as oil industry and pharmaceutics.

Yessssss........it does! And this is what really makes me believe that you have truly done a deep research into the matter!!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 01:56
:wave: Hi Everyone,


For those who still think that "Big Pharma" Still has your best interest and health at hand, please check out this documentary.....if nothing else open your eyes, I hope this does!!!

Big Bucks Big Pharma

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=739609197405993027#

PS

This are also great documentaries........

Grass: The History Of Marijuana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknoKWsVlAA[/B]


How Weed Won The West

http://www.hulu.com/watch/188913/how-weed-won-the-west

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

str8thinker
28th January 2011, 02:05
(Alkamyst) Tell me what are they doing to you when they give people Chemo? THEY ARE PUTTING RADIATION IN ONE"S BODY, but that does no harm right?

The effects of radiation and chemotherapy are distinctly different. Neither treatment is ideal, of course, but the rationale behind each is to make them as selective as possible for the condition being treated. Each method has to undergo strict protocols before being unleashed on the public. The only place for experimentation is with the patient's informed consent. Such patients are usually chosen when their condition is so advanced that they have nothing to lose.

Alkamyst, thanks for posting all these references, which I found most interesting. Now, the theme of this thread is the value of THC (in hemp oil) in "curing cancer". Out of all the links you posted, 69 Peer-Reviewed Studies on Marijuana (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000884) seems the most factual one. In it, I could find only three studies of relevance. None were actually performed on people.

Animal Studies #1 (2003)

Local administration induced a considerable growth inhibition of malignant tumors generated by inoculation of epidermal tumor cells into nude mice. Cannabinoid-treated tumors showed an increased number of apoptotic cells...

These results support a new therapeutic approach [cannabis-based ointment] for the treatment of skin tumors.
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/16116

There are other cancer-killing ointments available such as 5-fluorouracil. The risk is that incomplete eradication may mask recurrence. Cannabis may inhibit the tumor but is not tumoricidal, so does not appear significantly better than other methods currently available. However, topical use does not cause psychotropic side-effects.

Animal Studies #2 (2004)

(from Wikipedia) A study by Complutense University of Madrid found the chemicals in marijuana promotes the death of brain cancer cells by essentially helping them feed upon themselves in a process called autophagy. The research team discovered that cannabinoids such as THC had anticancer effects in mice with human brain cancer cells and in people with brain tumors. When mice with the human brain cancer cells received the THC, the tumor shrank. Using electron microscopes to analyze brain tissue taken both before and after a 26- to 30-day THC treatment regimen, the researchers found that THC eliminated cancer cells while leaving healthy cells intact.[62] The patients did not have any toxic effects from the treatment; previous studies of THC for the treatment of cancer have also found the therapy to be well tolerated. However, the mechanisms which promote THC's tumor cell–killing action are unknown.[62]

This sounds a bit more hopeful in this malignant condition which is highly invasive, with a high recurrence rate and thus mortality. A more recent study (2008) at the same university may be found here (http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/68/6/1945.full). However, THC's effect is inhibitory rather than curative.

Human studies #42 (2007 taken from original article)

...for three weeks, researchers injected standard doses of THC into mice that had been implanted with human lung cancer cells, and found that tumors were reduced in size and weight by about 50 percent in treated animals compared to a control group. There was also about a 60 percent reduction in cancer lesions on the lungs in these mice as well as a significant reduction in protein markers associated with cancer progression, Preet says.

Although the researchers do not know why THC inhibits tumor growth, they say the substance could be activating molecules that arrest the cell cycle. They speculate that THC may also interfere with angiogenesis and vascularization, which promotes cancer growth.

Preet says much work is needed to clarify the pathway by which THC functions, and cautions that some animal studies have shown that THC can stimulate some cancers. "THC offers some promise, but we have a long way to go before we know what its potential is," she said.

http://www.aacr.org/home/public--media/aacr-press-releases/press-releases-2007.aspx?d=744
Also reported here:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm


[Editor's Note: Although this study was not conducted on humans, it was performed using human cells in a test tube which is why we have classified it under the "Human Studies" category.]

Yes, marijuana can be a two-edged sword!


How Cannabis Suppresses Immune Functions: Cannabis Compounds Found to Trigger Unique Immune Cells Which Promote Cancer Growth (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101124214728.htm)
ScienceDaily (Nov. 26, 2010) — An international team of immunologists studying the effects of cannabis have discovered how smoking marijuana can trigger a suppression of the body's immune functions. The research, published in the European Journal of Immunology, reveals why cannabis users are more susceptible to certain types of cancers and infections.


Marijuana Damages DNA And May Cause Cancer, New Test Reveals (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090615095940.htm)
ScienceDaily (June 15, 2009) — Using a highly sensitive new test, scientists in Europe are reporting "convincing evidence" that marijuana smoke damages the genetic material DNA in ways that could increase the risk of cancer.

Although this is a forum for conspiracy theories and bashing globalized corporations, the fact remains that well-established protocols for proving or disproving the validity of new treatments takes precedence over everything else. And it has to - there is too much at stake. Heads will roll and careers and companies ruined if these standards are not enforced. There is too much competition at the top. First there are test-tube (in vitro) experiments, followed by animal and later human (in vivo) experiments, meaning large-scale clinical trials. All these are expensive but the end results are reproducible, standardized treatments which can be prescribed with confidence.

Remember:
No matter how inviting a particular drug treatment appears in isolation (such as acupuncture, THC), its proper place can only be found by comparing its benefits and disadvantages with those of all the other treatments available for that condition. This is the decision every medical practitioner has to make for each patient. In other words, each new treatment has to be seen in perspective.

To say that a particular drug has a place in the treatment of a condition is quite different from saying that it is a cure for it.

True progess is often painfully slow (and expensive), but to acquire merit, results must be reproducible in more than one laboratory.

I'm not saying that Big Pharma is deliberately suppressing research into THC (since Little Pharma will be quick to score off such a gambit) only that the social downside of marijuana addiction is significant enough to warrant a great deal of extra caution before specific uses for THC can be advocated.

This to me is a bloody sight more sensible approach than using one's body as a guinea pig by swigging THC oil laced with toxic solvents on the limited anecdotal evidence provided by a Canadian farmer.

Sowelu
28th January 2011, 02:43
hmm...i have mixed feelings on this one...

To my knowledge cannibis is useful in pain, bladder infections, kidney infection, muscus expectorant and insomnia..
I believe it's possible it may have helped in some's experience but my own grandmother died of cancer and
she used cannibis for pain...didn't help her there.
In fact cannibis prescriptions are very popular amounst cancer patients who are going terminal.
I might mention also my grandmother wasn't terminal when she started using it.

however something that truly has been proven to cure cancer that they keep from you is vitamin D3.
they commonly recommend 1000iu a day but recent studies prove the average person needs at least 5000 iu a day.
Even that varies by genetics (darker skinned typically need more)
D3 is sunlight in pill form, because we don't hunt and forage we don't get nearly enough of it.
Best taken throughout the day and it makes you feel really happy too!

Also for one who already has cancer, large doses of liquid vitamin c, showed a complete turnaround in a man who had terminal cancer
with developing luekimia. It not only made the cancer do a complete turnover but the luekimia signs vanished!
naturally now the gov wants to ban it due to "patenting issues" but it's truly because curing cancer will make them loose $$ in those charities and such.

Those who want to prevent it and this goes for all of you
1.) organic food because it hasn't been genetically modified and typically doesn't contain high fructose corn syrup
Hfcs when found naturally in fresh fruit is safe, but there are large chemically created amounts in many non organic foods,
(this is the number one energy source for cancer)
If it says natural sugar and not cane sugar it's probably genetically modified beet sugars (since ppl were catching on to the hfcs they changed it to make it sound healthy)
but "natural sugar is still genetically modified if it's not organic, and gmo'd foods not only drastically increase chance of cancer but a wealth of other health problems.
I might also add that anything that says "all natural" without the usda symbol, can be genetically modified.

There is way more info here >mercola.com< it has free information, he's an independant doctor who works with many scientists/professionals/and specialists to make the public more healthy.
He does offer his own line of products to help provide people with what they need and to keep his site going.
He is an outcast to the health industry because he believes in starting at the root of things and preventing illness not treating symtoms and also calls out their shenanigans.

When you read what he has to say about gmos and other surprising harmful ingredients in food,
you will understand more about why people like charles, myself and many many others stick to organic foods.
Sure organics cost more but a change in diet can save you thousands in hospital bills later.

Antibiotics are anti life...so if you're feeling sick why kill yourself on the inside?
70% of your immune system is located in the intestines and depends on that healthy lil bacteria to do its job...
yet they tell you to poison them when you're sick? make sure to see what he says about vaccines as well
sorry so off topic. wellbeing is one of my favorite subjects... :)

Teakai
28th January 2011, 04:05
With all due respect my dear friend, I would have to disagree on this one!....We humans are abusive by nature and we abuse many things on a daily basis, for example: "Being in this Forum or the Internet all day long" that's abusive!....AlkaMyst

:) I'd disagree on this Alkamyst. Abuse is abuse is abuse. Abuse is harmful and negative and exploitative. Where do you see the harm in being on the interent all day?

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 05:08
str8thinker

The effects of radiation and chemotherapy are distinctly different. Neither treatment is ideal, of course, but the rationale behind each is to make them as selective as possible for the condition being treated. Each method has to undergo strict protocols before being unleashed on the public. The only place for experimentation is with the patient's informed consent. Such patients are usually chosen when their condition is so advanced that they have nothing to lose.

Exactly what Rick does......he gets the patients consent and all of them have been sent home by their Dr.'s to die, so no difference there except that one is natural and the other is not (not to mention that the Dr.'s have no clue onto what it is that they are prescribing you, due to the fact that Pharmaceutical companies don't have to tell you exactly what is it that is on their medicines.) Think I'm lying, go to your medicine cabinet and pick any medication you like (it could be aspirin for all I care....and better yet, since it's such a common over the counter medicine that everyone takes) and go through what it actually contains and you will find that the main ingredient is Triacetin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triacetin).....and what is Triacetin one may ask???

Per Wikipedia...... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triacetin)

The triglyceride 1,2,3-triacetoxypropane is more generally known as triacetin and glycerin triacetate. It is the triester of glycerol and acetic acid.

It is an artificial chemical compound, commonly used as a food additive, for instance as a solvent in flavourings, and for its humectant function, with E number E1518 and Australian approval code A1518. Triacetin is also a component of casting liquor with TG and as an excipient in pharmaceutical products where it is used as a humectant, a plasticizer, and as a solvent.[3]

Triacetin can also be used as a fuel additive as an antiknock agent which can reduce engine knocking in gasoline, and to improve cold and viscosity properties of biodiesel.

In a 1994 report released by five top cigarette companies, triacetin was listed as one of the 599 cigarette additives. [1] The triacetin is applied to the filter as a plasticizer.[4]

Because it is in some sense the simplest possible fat after glyceryl triformate, it has been considered as a possible source of food energy in artificial food regeneration systems on long space missions. It is believed to be safe to get over half of one's dietary energy from triacetin.[5]

I need say no more, and that's just aspirin.....now tell me you really know what's in prescription drugs?.....I challenge anyone to research the prescriptions that they are currently taking (That is, given you or your physician knows what the drug actually contains and then tell me after doing an accurate research if any of the stuff that this companies put in their so called "Medicines" are any good to the human body?)

But hold on, now let me introduce you to Dr. James Howenstine, MD as he has quite a few things to say in the matter!!!

Original Source (http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james181.htm)


STAY AWAY FROM CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION

By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
November 21, 2009
NewsWithViews.com

For many years it has been known to well informed individuals within the medical community that chemotherapy and radiation were quite toxic and essentially worthless in the management of malignancies. This information is carefully covered up by our controlled media so that these two methods of therapy are regarded by lay persons as the proven therapy for malignancies. Like lemmings going over a cliff the general public lines up for these therapies and nearly all treated persons proceed to die.

To the person who inquires how can an essentially worthless therapy continue to be used the answer is simple. It is all about money. Chemotherapy drugs bring in more than a trillion dollars annually to the pharmaceutical industry. Oncologists frequently make $1000 from every injection administered to a patient. There are 40 National Cancer Institute Centers scattered across the USA. Each of these employs thousands of employees. Curing cancer would be devastating for the economy and must not be allowed to occur. Research programs whose alleged purpose is to cure cancer see their funds steered into harmless areas where no cancer cures will ever result. Less than 1% of research funds are spent finding methods to prevent the spread of cancer. which is the cause of fatal cancer cachexia which kills 90% of cancer victims..

Preventing unfavorable chemotherapy results from being seen by the public in TV, radio, and newspaper reporting is combined with malicious quackery charges and actual death threats to practitioners who have legitimate cancer cures. I am aware of at least a dozen cancer cures since 1900 that have been ignored or suppressed. Several persons with bonafide cancer cures have been so vilified they died alcoholics or committed suicide. Prominent physician Dr Milbrook Johnson was poisoned the night before he was scheduled to speak on a national radio network in the 1940s about the ability of Dr. Royal Rife’s electronic equipment to cure cancer and infections.

Both chemotherapy and radiation have such toxic effects on the human body they must be stopped before they kill the patient. In the early days of chemotherapy drugs it was noted that skeptical patients who refused to take chemotherapy usually lived longer than patients treated with chemotherapy.

Radiation therapy directed toward a bone containing cancer might initially seem innocuous but actually has effects throughout the body. Circulation of blood through areas of ionizing radiation being delivered to bone is able to transport this radiated blood to distant sites where it can injure bone marrow production of killer lymphocytes, red blood cells, macrophages and platelets. Loss of appetite and nausea can be seen. Conventional radiation to the abdomen and other areas may be followed by permanent injury to the small intestine(diarrhea, pain) and arteriosclerosis of arteries in any field of radiation.

A suspected cancer patient had xray films showing numerous lucent identical sized masses overlying brain and spinal cord tissue. The films were misread as metastasis from a prior malignant melanoma instead of echinoccocal cysts spread from the family dogs.. Massive radiation of brain and spinal cord tissue caused complete loss of appetite with no food intake and death in 8 days in a previously well 26 year old woman.

What are results of chemotherapy drugs? Associate Professor Graeme Morgan of Australia was the lead researcher on an article titled “The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5 year survival n adult malignancies.” This research showed that chemotherapy improved 5 year survival by less than 3% in adults with cancer. In 1987 Dr. Lana Levi of the University of California wrote “most cancer patients in this country die of chemotherapy. It does not eliminate breast, colon, or lung cancer. This fact has been known for over a decade. Women with breast cancer are likely to die faster with chemotherapy than without it.”

Dr. Ralph Moss Ph.D relates that “Conventional Cancer therapy is so toxic and dehumanizing that I fear it more than I fear death from cancer. Yet most alternative therapies regardless of potential or proven benefit, are outlawed, which forces patients to submit to the failures that we know don’t work because there is no other choice. Dr. Moss was employed as a science writer for Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York. Chemotherapy drugs are cellular poisons so they are quite toxic. They are also quite expensive. In his book The Cancer Industry he documents how the close links between the pharmaceutical industry and the cancer establishment enables an inadequate therapy like chemotherapy to become promoted and established as standard care”.

In a 1995 interview Dr. Moss related that chemotherapy was effective in only 2 to 4 % of all malignancies(Hodgkin’s Disease, Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia, childhood leukemia, testicular cancer and Choriocarcinoma.)

The package inserts for chemotherapy drugs admit that taking a course of chemotherapy drugs can increase your risk of subsequently developing a new cancer by about 10%.. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health(NIOSH) warns that the powerful drugs used in chemotherapy can cause cancer in employees who handle them(nurses, pharmacists, cleaning personnel). If continued too long these drugs are fatal. The damage to white blood cell , killer lymphocyte and red blood cell production makes the patient vulnerable to overwhelming infection which is the cause of death in many patients on chemotherapy and radiation. It never made sense to me why administering toxic substances that cause major side effects could possibly heal a serious illness like a malignancy.

Dr. William Campbell Douglass II, MD “To understand the utter hypocrisy of chemotherapy, consider the following: The McGill Cancer Center in Canada, one of the largest and most prestigious cancer treatment centers in the world, did a study of oncologists to determine how they would respond to a diagnosis of cancer. On the confidential questionnaire, 58 out of 64 doctors said that all chemotherapy programs were unacceptable to them and their family.

In 33 years of conventional medical practice I referred all patients with malignancies to oncologists. The only survivor was a Chinese man with a low grade lung cancer. He responded every five years or so to a few doses of radiation.

In my opinion one of the most important verses in the Bible is Proverbs 14:12 There is way that seems right unto man but its end is the way of death. Drug company owners and executives, politicians, world leaders and media executives have unbelievable wealth and power in this world. However, they face a tortured eternity following death. This seems to be a very unwise tradeoff.

Anyone reading this article has my permission to copy or publish this information. Hopefully, some individuals will be made aware that there are safe effective alternatives to chemotherapy and radiation in the treatment of malignancies.

© 2009 Dr. James Howenstine - All Rights Reserved


This is a reputable Dr. saying this not me!!!



Alkamyst, thanks for posting all these references, which I found most interesting. Now, the theme of this thread is the value of THC (in hemp oil) in "curing cancer". Out of all the links you posted, 69 Peer-Reviewed Studies on Marijuana seems the most factual one. In it, I could find only three studies of relevance. None were actually performed on people.


You're quite welcome my friend, I'm glad that you find some useful info amonst all this chaos lol......but you are right let's get back on track!!!

Source (http://www.hongpong.com/node/1081)

The endocannabinoid system in our bodies regulate our cancer defense – so it makes sense that cannabis works effectively in this area, and the science backs that up.

For those who dispute the fact that cannabis can cure cancer, I would like to refer you to numerous studies (since 1974!) that show that cannabinoids kills cancer cells, shrink tumors, halts the spread of invasive carcinomas, and prevents occurrence. I don’t know if you have the energy or the interest to follow up these links, but if you do value truth over hearsay and propaganda, then I would suggest you look at them. First you have to ask yourself: why don’t you know about this? (Then you should get really, really angry).

Original Univ of Va study showing that THC halts lewis lung adenocarcinoma:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1159836&dopt=Citation

London study showing THC causes kills leukemia cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454482

University of Texas study showing the CB1 receptor (which is activated by cannabis) suppresses colorectal cancer tumor, when the receptor is lost cancer can occur.

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/68/15/6468

Univ of Southern Florida study showing that cannabis blocks cancer causing viruses:

http://news.bio-medicine.org/biology-news-2/Cannabis-may-help-combat-cancer-causing-herpes-viruses-115-1/

Harvard study showing cannabis cuts lung cancer growth in half:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

The British Journal of Cancer reports that cannabis treats prostate cancer

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Researchers at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute found that cannabis halts breast cancer.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/11/19/cannabis-cancer.html

A large population study of chronic cannabis smokers found that they had a REDUCED risk of head, neck and throat cancers when compared to those that did not use cannabis.

http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/1940-6207.CAPR-09-0048v1 (http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/1940-6207.CAPR-09-0048v1)

Spanish study showing that THC inhibits gliomas (brain cancer).

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/68/6/1945

Want more links? Here is a much more comprehensive list compiled by a wonderful woman who calls herself Granny Storm Crow:

http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana/436257-granny-storm-crows-list-july-2009-a.html <------THIS IS A MUST READ!!!
(http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana/436257-granny-storm-crows-list-july-2009-a.html)

And here are some more links!.............

Hemp Oil and Cancer
http://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=497

THC Gives Cancer Cells the Munchies Too
http://scienceblogs.com/scientificactivist/2009/04/thc_gives_cancer_cells_the_mun.php (Please read through comments to see people's successes)

THC (marijuana) helps cure cancer says Harvard study
http://www.nowpublic.com/thc_marijuana_helps_cure_cancer_says_harvard_study



Yes, marijuana can be a two-edged sword!

I can't find myself to agree with this one.....I'm sorry, but I know better than that!!!


Although this is a forum for conspiracy theories and bashing globalized corporations, the fact remains that well-established protocols for proving or disproving the validity of new treatments takes precedence over everything else. And it has to - there is too much at stake. Heads will roll and careers and companies ruined if these standards are not enforced. There is too much competition at the top. First there are test-tube (in vitro) experiments, followed by animal and later human (in vivo) experiments, meaning large-scale clinical trials. All these are expensive but the end results are reproducible, standardized treatments which can be prescribed with confidence.

I have to disagree and again I must point you o the documentary above called "Big Bucks Big Pharma"..........there's nothing standardized about pharmaceuticals!!!


Remember:
No matter how inviting a particular drug treatment appears in isolation (such as acupuncture, THC), its proper place can only be found by comparing its benefits and disadvantages with those of all the other treatments available for that condition. This is the decision every medical practitioner has to make for each patient. In other words, each new treatment has to be seen in perspective.

I agree on this one!!!


To say that a particular drug has a place in the treatment of a condition is quite different from saying that it is a cure for it.

I understand that and I still hold my position.....but only time will tell for others I guess!!!


True progess is often painfully slow (and expensive), but to acquire merit, results must be reproducible in more than one laboratory.

And that's what Rick is doing, if you refuse to believe other then that's fine....but I don't see what those people on camera have to gain from all of this except for their lives back. I find it very hard to believe that all this older people are stoner's and are just doing this to promote cannabis. Please tell, what do they have to gain?


I'm not saying that Big Pharma is deliberately suppressing research into THC (since Little Pharma will be quick to score off such a gambit)

That is EXACTLY what I'm saying!!!.....Yes they are, and have been suppressing cannabis research for the last 74 years to be exact.


only that the social downside of marijuana addiction is significant enough to warrant a great deal of extra caution before specific uses for THC can be advocated.

It has been already proven that cannabis is not addictive, so I'm not even touching on this one!!!


This to me is a bloody sight more sensible approach than using one's body as a guinea pig by swigging THC oil laced with toxic solvents on the limited anecdotal evidence provided by a Canadian farmer with an axe to grind.

And what exactly do you think that Pharmaceutical companies are doing on a daily basis???

I love your enthusiasm str8thinker......constructive criticism is always welcome and admired. All this with good intentions, everyone is fully entitled to their opinions. :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 05:13
Sowelu

hmm...i have mixed feelings on this one...

To my knowledge cannibis is useful in pain, bladder infections, kidney infection, muscus expectorant and insomnia..
I believe it's possible it may have helped in some's experience but my own grandmother died of cancer and
she used cannibis for pain...didn't help her there.
In fact cannibis prescriptions are very popular amounst cancer patients who are going terminal.
I might mention also my grandmother wasn't terminal when she started using it.

however something that truly has been proven to cure cancer that they keep from you is vitamin D3.
they commonly recommend 1000iu a day but recent studies prove the average person needs at least 5000 iu a day.
Even that varies by genetics (darker skinned typically need more)
D3 is sunlight in pill form, because we don't hunt and forage we don't get nearly enough of it.
Best taken throughout the day and it makes you feel really happy too!

Also for one who already has cancer, large doses of liquid vitamin c, showed a complete turnaround in a man who had terminal cancer
with developing luekimia. It not only made the cancer do a complete turnover but the luekimia signs vanished!
naturally now the gov wants to ban it due to "patenting issues" but it's truly because curing cancer will make them loose $$ in those charities and such.

Those who want to prevent it and this goes for all of you
1.) organic food because it hasn't been genetically modified and typically doesn't contain high fructose corn syrup
Hfcs when found naturally in fresh fruit is safe, but there are large chemically created amounts in many non organic foods,
(this is the number one energy source for cancer)
If it says natural sugar and not cane sugar it's probably genetically modified beet sugars (since ppl were catching on to the hfcs they changed it to make it sound healthy)
but "natural sugar is still genetically modified if it's not organic, and gmo'd foods not only drastically increase chance of cancer but a wealth of other health problems.
I might also add that anything that says "all natural" without the usda symbol, can be genetically modified.

There is way more info here >mercola.com< it has free information, he's an independant doctor who works with many scientists/professionals/and specialists to make the public more healthy.
He does offer his own line of products to help provide people with what they need and to keep his site going.
He is an outcast to the health industry because he believes in starting at the root of things and preventing illness not treating symtoms and also calls out their shenanigans.

When you read what he has to say about gmos and other surprising harmful ingredients in food,
you will understand more about why people like charles, myself and many many others stick to organic foods.
Sure organics cost more but a change in diet can save you thousands in hospital bills later.

Antibiotics are anti life...so if you're feeling sick why kill yourself on the inside?
70% of your immune system is located in the intestines and depends on that healthy lil bacteria to do its job...
yet they tell you to poison them when you're sick? make sure to see what he says about vaccines as well
sorry so off topic. wellbeing is one of my favorite subjects...

Thanks for this interesting post and no need for apologies my friend, everyone's input is always welcome by me. :)

Really sorry to hear about your grandmother, truly am. But remember that we are not talking about smoking pot but extracting it's oil and using it to cure cancer.

I also know about D3 being really good for one's health, but truly is the first time I hear anything about curing cancer.....I must research this, very interesting!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Icecold
28th January 2011, 05:44
The bottom line here is, do people have a right to choose or not? The nay sayers are supporting another level of control which I thought, we were here to eliminate.

Are you going to pick and choose the levels of people's freedoms as you like?

On this issue of THC I have no side. But I will never seek to impose my will on people's choice to their choice of medicine, else I become the authority which we are consistently and rightly trying to diminish.

You can't have it both ways STR8. You want to impose your view on someone else and limit their freedoms. We are not talking about violent crime against other persons here, we are talking about an individual's right to be free and adopt a cure of THEIR choice.

Don't impose your bias authority on others unless they are dangerous to others.

In my view.

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 06:07
Teakai

I'd disagree on this Alkamyst. Abuse is abuse is abuse. Abuse is harmful and negative and exploitative. Where do you see the harm in being on the interent all day?

Well, if we are talking about drug abuse then one can come to the conclusion that the word abuse is being used as a substitute for the word "Excess" and if we are to look at it from that point of view then anything done in excess can be considered abusive. :)

This is what I mean my friend.....
Source (http://intervention911.com/intervention911_internet_info.htm)


Internet Addiction

The rapid growth of the internet over the last decade has affected every aspect of business and culture in the U.S. It has changed the way many of us shop, research and entertain ourselves. For a small percentage of the population however the internet has provided a very seductive method of indulging in a compulsive escape from reality.

Internet addiction is a growing disorder that is becoming widely studied as the number of documented cases increase but its effect on a marriage, family, friendship is impossible to ignore when you are involved. Studies show that individuals who suffer from internet addiction are also likely to show signs of other addictive behaviors and depression and/or anxiety. Internet addiction can be addressed by interventions, just as any other addiction.

Internet Abuse

Internet abuse is defined as continuing to compulsively spend time on the internet even after suffering consequences from doing so. Most of the issues that Intervention911 deals with involve pornography addiction, online affairs or chat room relationships, online shopping and gambling. These activities can put enormous strain on all relationships and can also affect the job and even the health of the person abusing the internet.

Proper treatment and counseling can break this dependence by revealing root causes and learning how to deal head on with life's problems rather than seeking escape from them. Compulsive behaviors like internet abuse are progressive and reinforcing because they seem feel like they effectively mask or avoid painful problems when in reality they only become worse. This leads to more internet abuse and more problems.

Internet Addiction and Dependency

Internet addiction and dependency will only get worse, not better if not treated. Not unlike television addiciton, frustration is a common result of internet dependency as promises to cut down are made often and frequently broken and the rationalization of needing to use the internet for work fails under the truth that most of the time is spent on non-work activities.

If a loved one needs help with an internet addiction, whether they want to admit it or not, we can help. Does time spent on the internet continue to increase? Is the internet used to avoid interaction with friends, family and a spouse? Does the person suffer from increasing anxiety the longer they are away from the internet and obsessively think about getting online?

If you answered yes to any of these questions it is important not to continue to cover-up the problem and get help. These compulsive behaviors do not just get better and will get progressively worse with time despite mounting problems.

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Icecold

The bottom line here is, do people have a right to choose or not? The nay sayers are supporting another level of control which I thought, we were here to eliminate.

Are you going to pick and choose the levels of people's freedoms as you like?

On this issue of THC I have no side. But I will never seek to impose my will on people's choice to their choice of medicine, else I become the authority which we are consistently and rightly trying to diminish.

You can't have it both ways STR8. You want to impose your view on someone else and limit their freedoms. We are not talking about violent crime against other persons here, we are talking about an individual's right to be free and adopt a cure of THEIR choice.

Don't impose your bias authority on others unless they are dangerous to others.

In my view.

:nod: Thank you Icecold.....you certainly understand where I'm coming from!!!

DeDukshyn
28th January 2011, 06:26
I didn't watch the vid here, but I did read an article based on some peer reviewed research where it was shown that THC stops and may even reverse the formation of blood vessels to tumours essentially choking the cancer. Smoking's pretty hard on the lungs though, but I guess you could eat it? And let's consider the very conflicting "evidence". There obvious a deceptive side to this .. now consider who has what motivation to decieve? (think money -- it drives everything)

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 06:29
Now guys check this one out!!!!

Original Source (http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/22-us-government-repressed-marijuana-tumor-research/)


U.S. Government Repressed Marijuana-Tumor Research

Alternet, May 31, 2000
Title: Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew in ‘74
Author: Raymond Cushing

Faculty Evaluator: Mary King M.D.
Student researchers: Jennifer Swift, Licia Marshall,

Corporate media coverage: AP and UPI news wires 2/29/00

A Spanish medical team’s study released in Madrid in February 2000 has shown that tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active chemical in marijuana, destroys tumors in lab rats. These findings, however, are not news to the U.S. government. A study in Virginia in 1974 yielded similar results but was suppressed by the DEA, and in 1983 the Reagan/Bush administration tried to persuade U.S. universities and researchers to destroy all cannabis research work done between 1966 and 1976, including compendiums in libraries.

The research was conducted by a medical team led by Dr. Manuel Guzman of Complutence University in Madrid. In the study, brains of 45 lab rats were injected with a cancer cell, which produced tumors. On the twelfth day of the experiment, 15 of the rats were injected with THC and 15 with Win-55, 212-2, a synthetic compound similar to THC. The untreated rats died 12-18 days after the development of the tumors. THC treated rats lived significantly longer than the control group. Although three were unaffected by the THC, nine lived 19-35 days, while tumors were completely eradicated in three others. The rats treated with Win-55,212-2 showed similar results.

In an e-mail interview for this story, the Madrid researcher said he had heard of the Virginia study, but had never been able to locate literature on it. “I am aware of the existence of that research. In fact I have attempted many times to obtain the journal article on the original investigation by theses people, but it has proven impossible,” Guzman said. His response wasn’t surprising, considering that in 1983 the Reagan/Bush administration tried to persuade American universities and researchers to destroy all 1966/76 cannabis research work, including compendiums in libraries, reports Jack Herer. “We know that large amounts of information have since disappeared,” he says.

Guzman provided the title of the work-”Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids,” an article in a 1975 Journal of the National Cancer Institute-and author Raymond Cushing obtained a copy at the UC Medical School Library in Davis, California, and faxed it to Madrid. The 1975 article does not mention breast cancer tumors, which were featured in the only newspaper story ever to appear about the 1974 study in the local section of the Washington Post on August 18, 1974. The headline read, “Cancer Curb Is Studied,” and was followed in part by, “The active chemical agent in marijuana curbs the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice and may also suppress the immunity reaction that causes rejection of organ transplants, a Medical College of Virginia team has discovered. The researchers found that THC slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers, and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent.”

Drug Enforcement Agency officials shut down the Virginia study and all further cannabis research, according to Jack Herer, who reports on these events in his book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes. In 1976, President Gerald Ford put an end to all public cannabis research and granted exclusive research rights to major pharmaceutical companies. These companies set out-unsuccessfully-to develop synthetic forms of THC that would deliver all the medical benefits without the “high.”

Update by Raymond Cushing

When I was a cub reporter twenty-eight years ago at the daily Advocate in Stamford, Connecticut, my first city editor-a white-haired veteran of the International Herald Tribune named Marian Campbell-told me that the cure for cancer was the holy grail of all news stories.

“Unless they discover the cure for cancer,” she would say over the clackety-clack of the manual typewriters, “this paper goes to press on time.”

What I found out a quarter-century later is that not even the cure for cancer is a big enough story to crack the Berlin Wall of media censorship in this country. Toss in the facts that the cure appears to be a benign substance that has been illegal for 63 years, and that the government knowingly suppressed evidence of its curative powers 25 years, and you get twice the storyæand twice the censorship.

I won’t name the “investigative journalists” who didn’t respond when I sent them this story. I won’t list the numerous “progressive” publications that ignored it. I won’t describe the forbidding sense of professional isolation I endured in the months I tried to place the story.

Suffice it to say that it’s what one would expect in a society that has criminalized its own young for two generations around the cannabis issue simply because we were told to do so.

Thousands of innocent people who are in U.S. prisons for possessing or selling “the cure for cancer” await liberation and reparations. Someday our grandchildren will look back and ask, “What did you do to set the cannabis prisoners free?”

Here’s what any responsible journalist should be doing:

Go to primary sources when evaluating cannabis research. The AP and other news organizations love to elevate “bad science” and suppress “good science” when it comes to cannabis. You have to read the original research articles yourself and make your own judgments.

Investigate and report on the war on children that is a major component of the war on drugs. The marijuana laws are the main tool the police use to persecute minors. No other policy affects more families in more insidious and devastating ways than cannabis prohibition.

Learn about the history of cannabis prohibition and about the pharmaceutical, liquor, and tobacco giants that are behind it. If you don’t know the history of cannabis and hemp prohibition, you’re too ignorant to justifiably call yourself a journalist.

If it turns out-as my story would seem to indicate-that cannabis is the cure for cancer and the government suppressed this information for 25 years (and continues to suppress it), then the body count alone will make this the biggest holocaust in recorded history. Virtually all federal drug policy makers of both parties since 1975-including legislators, presidents and the DEA-will be complicit and criminally liable.

That’s why they don’t want this story covered.

To learn the history of cannabis prohibition, read http://www.jackherer.com.


And still people refuse to believe that their government would never suppress information like this.....Then they better think again!!!

str8thinker
28th January 2011, 06:30
Even though James Howenstine, MD, is a qualified doctor, I find it difficult to believe his objectivity when he has a vested interest in selling his book A Physician's Guide to Natural Health Products That Work. No doubt it is a very fine book (see Amazon reviews) but that does not make him objective. He specializes in cancer treatments outside standard protocols, which explains his decision to live and work in Costa Rica outside the jurisdiction of American medicine.

What gets up my nose in this thread is the concerted effort to present THC as a wonder drug that cures virtually everything, when in reality it is simply one of a local family of cannabinoids with some potential benefit in managing some conditions. Just because it might be a pleasant and relatively harmless recreational drug is really irrelevant to its possible therapeutic use. The same could be said for opium. There is no fundamental principle behind the two uses.

Just imagine, if no one had discovered the pleasures of smoking marijuana, the announcement that THC had a place in the therapeutic armamentarium would just be another minor discovery, along with so many thousands of other plant-derived and animal-derived compounds currently under investigation. That THC has achieved notoriety is detrimental to its objective clinical evaluation.

Dominic
28th January 2011, 06:42
The mother goddess returns to culture. It will cure any aliment I can attest to it. The next thing is magic mushrooms will be a very important medicine in our near future. Cubensis mushrooms contain DMT . They can not keep these truths from me or the rest of humanity. You must go in to go to outer space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8an2XZ3MU

DeDukshyn
28th January 2011, 06:44
Even though James Howenstine, MD, is a qualified doctor, I find it difficult to believe his objectivity when he has a vested interest in selling his book A Physician's Guide to Natural Health Products That Work.

Let's consider vested interests. Not petty individual ones like Dr. H. but the overall grand scheme. I'm fairly certain that a few pot smoking long hairs don't have some secret luciferian agenda to convince people that cannibis is ok, and has potential specific health benefits that can possibly cure cancer, and take that manifestation to ... do what? What possible ill motivation is there in this? Now let's consider any motivations about keeping these things secret. Need I say more? There is a deceitful side to this, who has motivation to deceit? It's basic deduction.

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 06:45
DeDukshyn

There obvious a deceptive side to this .. now consider who has what motivation to decieve? (think money -- it drives everything)

Tell me about it....I truly agree!!!

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str8thinker

Even though James Howenstine, MD, is a qualified doctor, I find it difficult to believe his objectivity when he has a vested interest in selling his book A Physician's Guide to Natural Health Products That Work.

Are we trying to find excuses for the obvious now?......listen to what you are saying my friend, how different is the promoting of his book from a book that you go and buy about aliens. Actually, there's a big difference Dr. Howenstine is actually trying to help people, Ufologists usually aren't but I bet you would probably buy the book on UFO's instead of his as the UFO book would be a more interesting read. (The above statement is not meant to be taken literally, just a comparison)

This is called being naive and I think that is is going to be my last attempt to get my point across to you (NO DISRESPECT MEANT).....it's just that we are getting off topic!!! :)

But your comments are still welcome and appreciated

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 06:51
DeDukshyn

Let's consider vested interests. Not petty individual ones like Dr. H. but the overall grand scheme. I'm fairly certain that a few pot smoking long hairs don't have some secret luciferian agenda to convince people that cannibis is ok, and has potential specific health benefits that can possibly cure cancer, and take that manifestation to ... do what? What possible ill motivation is there in this? Now let's consider any motivations about keeping these things secret. Need I say more? There is a deceitful side to this, who has motivation to deceit? It's basic deduction.

No need to say more, very well said!!! :thumb:

Dominic

The mother goddess returns to culture. It will cure any aliment I can attest to it. The next thing is magic mushrooms will be a very important medicine in our near future. Cubensis mushrooms contain DMT . They can not keep these truths from me or the rest of humanity. You must go in to go to outer space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8an2XZ3MU

Yes they are, thank you for sharing this Dominic....I've always appreciated what Mr. Mckenna has to say, quite a remarkable man!!! :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Dominic
28th January 2011, 06:55
Freeman interviewed Rick Simpson. Great recent interview, I am making a batch of oil this weekend.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Radio_Freeman_11.html

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 07:02
Freeman interviewed Rick Simpson. Great recent interview, I am making a batch of oil this weekend.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...reeman_11.html

Awesome, thanks for this.....I'm listening right now!!!!

Good for you......good luck and if you need any help let me know, I have been doing my own for many years now!!!! :)

fifi
28th January 2011, 07:31
By the way, the best way to go about it is to grow your own medicine....the stuff you get from other people is CRAP!!!

Will one get into trouble with the law for growing this? What is the minimum amount of the plant can one grow without being jailed for planting "pot" or "weeds"?

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 07:51
fifi

Will one get into trouble with the law for growing this? What is the minimum amount of the plant can one grow without being jailed for planting "pot" or "weeds"?

Well fifi, there's no easy answer to that question.....but we can start by "Do you live in the US?" and if you do "What State?"

Teakai
28th January 2011, 08:44
Teakai
Well, if we are talking about drug abuse then one can come to the conclusion that the word abuse is being used as a substitute for the word "Excess" and if we are to look at it from that point of view then anything done in excess can be considered abusive. :)


That's what I was thinking, Alkamyst - I was wondering if maybe you were substituting extreme (well, you used the term excessive, but sort of the same in that both don't mean abusive :) ) behaviour to mean abusive behaviour - definitely not the same thing.

kevlor
28th January 2011, 11:22
thank you ALKAMYST very informative you certainly know your subject . thank you... kev

p.s. sent you a PM today

9eagle9
28th January 2011, 12:43
Good info here. I'm going to be looking into this more. .

I’d be interested to see what happened when these people who were given pot as an end of the line alternative to pain killers and then began a round of some other sort of alternative medicine in addition to the pot.

Regardless of the effects of pot, if one has ever watched morphine rebound in the terminally I’ll one would have to say that the person may not be feeling pain but they sure as hell cannot be comfortable. Morphine and other related opiate derivatives often times prevent a person from dying peacefully. They are sweating profusely, twitching, and the body literally cannot rest long enough to lay down and die. It’s a prolonged very unpeaceful way to die.

For those who smoked pot in terminal stages without a curative effect, I’d have to add in the variables of the duration of use wasn’t long enough or perhaps they didn’t have a high enough dose to illicit any curative effects. Not to mention your mindset. If you have made the determination to smoke pot to die in peace you have still made the decision to die. That accounts for a LOT. If one changed that mindset to “This will keep me comfortable as I explore and add other alternative means..” Well you’ve set a long term living goal. And is it is much much easier to heal when one is not in pain and is comfortable.

Mind set and self excavation is very important to a cancer cure. Cancer is nearly always triggered by long term emotional STRESS. Pot curiously enough alleviates stress? Not being a pot smoker myself I sure know via continuous observation that everyone I know who smokes sure are eager to discuss their inner landscape when they are high, in a way they don't when they aren't high. How much inner crud is drudged up during that time surely has to be good. I don't need to be a professional to notice stuff like that.

This is how doctors used to cure by drawing these sorts of conclusions. This was before big Pharma told them how to treat .

Show a wholistic healer where the cancer is and the healer can tell you the form of stress that caused it. A doctor can’t or won’t. Lung cancer. Inability to cope with daily emotions. Smoking is a form of self medication for inability to cope with daily emotions. Neither do I believe tobacco is a carcinogen. The chemicals pumped into tobacco most certainly are. Tobacco has been used for thousands of years without harm, and is a well known treatment for respiratory disease in its unadulterated form. Until the gov and big tobacco got hold of it. And many people are more than convinced that the adulteration of tobacco was a means of covering up the irridation of the entire US fall out from test bombs, in the 40's and 50's. Nuclear fall out as a cause of cancer, Radiation? Of course not, its obvious that it must be that plant that's been around since the beginning of time and just mysteriously became bad for us about the time we started to split the atom.

For that reason I would prefer to see Pot out of the hands of the FDA or any sort of institutionalized distribution. Very likely they’ll adulterate it the same way they have tobacco and our drinking water.

fifi
28th January 2011, 14:36
Hi AlkaMyst,
Thank you very much for your information about hemp/cannabis. I have never known about the benefits of hemp until I read this thread. I live in Virginia, USA. Is it illegal if I want to grow this plant? just a minimum to use as a medicine.

Humble Janitor
28th January 2011, 16:30
So, garden variety hemp oil will do the trick? Or does one need to shell out for some fancy-schmancy version of it?

Sounds promising and I'm a big fan of cannabis sativa.

NancyV
28th January 2011, 18:38
It should be fairly well known by now that the "drug war" is perpetuated because of it's profitability to covert and not so covert agencies. Not only the DEA and CIA make huge profits from the drug war, but federal, state and local governments and agencies make large profits from seizures of property and even the drugs. You don't think they actually destroy ALL those drugs, do you?

I have an interesting perspective on marijuana since I was introduced to drugs at the age of 20 in 1967. My husband and I were in the thick of the peace/love movement in Laguna Beach California. It was sex, drugs and rock and roll to the max! LOL.. The law didn't start really cracking down heavily on drugs, at least where I lived, until the early 70's right around the time when cocaine became the big thing. Cocaine was not a drug that promoted "peace and love", so it may have had something to do with the eventual unraveling and transformation of the peace/love movement.

To make a long story shorter I totally gave up drugs overnight and brainwashed myself into detesting all drugs. About a year after giving up drugs I decided I wanted to join the war against drugs and became an undercover contract agent for the DEA. I was a perfect candidate for this job, a good looking, intelligent (but naive!), rabidly anti drug female who knew a lot about the drug business and spoke Spanish, having lived in Mexico when I was 16-17 after I left home. So I divorced my first husband, moved to Mexico and worked in Mexico, Colombia and Peru mostly. It took me about a year to really discover and admit what was going on. I found out that the drug war was basically a charade. There was little difference between the "good" guys and the bad guys. In fact some of the Colombian drug lords I dealt with were a lot more honest than the good guys. I won't go into the details of how I came to know of the total dishonesty of this bogus war on drugs, but suffice it to say that it was proven to my satisfaction beyond a doubt.

This entire war on drugs is for profit. Until it is more profitable for the government to legalize marijuana and tax sales on it the battle for legalization will remain extremely difficult. Even then the CIA and DEA will not want marijuana legalized. I thought the recent law on the ballot in California had a good chance of passing, but sadly it did not pass. It is not in the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, the government or covert agencies to see marijuana legalized. People have been brainwashed for decades into thinking marijuana is dangerous and even the facts do not sway them from their programming unless they really have an open mind.

I was anti drugs for many years and still have not used any drugs since my mid 20's except for when I lived in Hawaii in my mid 30's and would occasionally eat the magic mushrooms that grew on our property (mushrooms are awesome!). I was into meditation and leaving my body so I didn't think much about drugs although I still had friends who used marijuana. The Rick Simpson story impressed me when I first saw it a couple of years ago so I started doing a lot of research and came to the conclusion that hemp oil is extremely beneficial. Naturally big pharma does not want it known and will produce bogus studies trying to discredit it, just as they do with all natural substances, herbs, organic foods, etc. that they cannot patent.

Oregon is one of the states where it is fairly easy to get a medical marijuana license. My present husband and I are in Washington right now but will be moving back to Oregon in the near future and will definitely get a license. He will be able to qualify for it as he has chronic pain issues. I want to experiment with making the hemp oil and have convinced him that it would be worth a try. He has also been anti drugs for all of his life, but that was basically just the brainwashing and disinformation that is so prevalent in our society.

The hemp plant is truly amazing and would be of great benefit to the world in so many ways. It's not surprising that those in control do not want it to be easily available and have engaged in a relentless campaign to discredit it. I fully understand str8thinker's attitudes and it's going to take a LOT to deprogram him. That will only happen if he becomes objective and wants to know the truth instead of finding articles that support his theories. We can always find studies and articles that support any theory we have and as long as we trust the FDA and other government agencies and actually think they are working for our benefit, there is little chance of being open to the truth.

Keep up the good work, Alkamyst!

Nancy :)

NunoSav
28th January 2011, 20:36
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

I'll quote this from it:

""We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect." (...) Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood."

I highly suggest reading it.

And watch the movie/documentary:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111833/

It will get some laughs out of you (hopefully) and still be educational.

Now i'd love for someone to provide me with sound evidence of any harm caused by this plant, even in high doses. I've only found paranoia so far.

Edit: Just to put it all in perspective, nothing better then cartoons :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ6dl4QDkmM

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 21:15
Hi Everyone,

I MUST THANK each and everyone one of you for all your comments and interest in this very important subject and this shows that we CAN and WILL make a difference in the world and change is just around the corner! :)

I have to say that I'm not here to promote drug in any way, shape or form but I will tell you that the term "DRUG" being applied to natural plants and herbs doesn't really apply to such. I have been using Cannabis for over 15 years now and I must say from my personal experiences with this sacred plant that I have been sick to the point where I needed to go to the hospital just once in the last 15 years. Also, I was asthmatic when I was young and honestly after I started using cannabis my asthma disappeared and Dr.'s had no idea how it happened (I never mentioned to them that I used cannabis tho). My grandmother and at least 6 other members of my family suffered from RH Arthritis and Sever Arthritis, and thanks to this so called "DRUG", not only the pains were gone but the disease was cured and has never returned again. I have also seen personally this sacred plant work on cancer patients and have seen it cured.

I don't want people thinking that I'm just posting for the sake of posting something, I know that this is still a touchy subject with most people and I approach it as such....I didn't fell at the beginning of writing this thread that I had to explain my personal family life in such detail, but after some of you have shared some of yours, it's only fair I do the same.

Now that that's out of the way, let get back on track.......

Teakai

That's what I was thinking, Alkamyst - I was wondering if maybe you were substituting extreme (well, you used the term excessive, but sort of the same in that both don't mean abusive ) behaviour to mean abusive behaviour - definitely not the same thing.

We are playing with words here my dear friend, think about this for a second.....When one talks about abuse whether it is physical, mental or through the use of any substance, one is referring to a repetitiveness of such event. For example, if someone is being physically abuse then one may conclude that is due to someone beating on someone else in a repetitiveness manner which in term can call be consider excess (excessive behavior). Now the same can be said for mental abuse as the event is being repeated over and over and it's also happening in an excessive manner. And drugs we already discussed, so see where the relation could be made to the same use of two different words that they have programmed people to believe they mean different things!!!

If I'm not making my self quite clear, then please forgive me and just PM me and we will continue there!!! :)

Something that has always stuck with me.....


Watch your thoughts for they become words,
Watch your words for they become actions,
Watch your actions for they become habits,
Watch your habits for they define "Who You Are"



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kevlor

thank you ALKAMYST very informative you certainly know your subject . thank you... kev

p.s. sent you a PM today

Thank you kevlor, I must humbly appreciate you comment and I have also PM'ed you with the information you requested. I hope it works....feel free to PM me if you need more help!!! :yo:


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9eagle9

Good info here. I'm going to be looking into this more. .

I’d be interested to see what happened when these people who were given pot as an end of the line alternative to pain killers and then began a round of some other sort of alternative medicine in addition to the pot.

Regardless of the effects of pot, if one has ever watched morphine rebound in the terminally I’ll one would have to say that the person may not be feeling pain but they sure as hell cannot be comfortable. Morphine and other related opiate derivatives often times prevent a person from dying peacefully. They are sweating profusely, twitching, and the body literally cannot rest long enough to lay down and die. It’s a prolonged very unpeaceful way to die.

For those who smoked pot in terminal stages without a curative effect, I’d have to add in the variables of the duration of use wasn’t long enough or perhaps they didn’t have a high enough dose to illicit any curative effects. Not to mention your mindset. If you have made the determination to smoke pot to die in peace you have still made the decision to die. That accounts for a LOT. If one changed that mindset to “This will keep me comfortable as I explore and add other alternative means..” Well you’ve set a long term living goal. And is it is much much easier to heal when one is not in pain and is comfortable.

Mind set and self excavation is very important to a cancer cure. Cancer is nearly always triggered by long term emotional STRESS. Pot curiously enough alleviates stress? Not being a pot smoker myself I sure know via continuous observation that everyone I know who smokes sure are eager to discuss their inner landscape when they are high, in a way they don't when they aren't high. How much inner crud is drudged up during that time surely has to be good. I don't need to be a professional to notice stuff like that.

This is how doctors used to cure by drawing these sorts of conclusions. This was before big Pharma told them how to treat .

Show a wholistic healer where the cancer is and the healer can tell you the form of stress that caused it. A doctor can’t or won’t. Lung cancer. Inability to cope with daily emotions. Smoking is a form of self medication for inability to cope with daily emotions. Neither do I believe tobacco is a carcinogen. The chemicals pumped into tobacco most certainly are. Tobacco has been used for thousands of years without harm, and is a well known treatment for respiratory disease in its unadulterated form. Until the gov and big tobacco got hold of it. And many people are more than convinced that the adulteration of tobacco was a means of covering up the irridation of the entire US fall out from test bombs, in the 40's and 50's. Nuclear fall out as a cause of cancer, Radiation? Of course not, its obvious that it must be that plant that's been around since the beginning of time and just mysteriously became bad for us about the time we started to split the atom.

For that reason I would prefer to see Pot out of the hands of the FDA or any sort of institutionalized distribution. Very likely they’ll adulterate it the same way they have tobacco and our drinking water.

You my friend have such an excellent grasp on all this, that truly I have nothing to say but THANK YOU!.....I hope more people were as open minded as you are and to not use the plant but understand its great qualities in the way that it works on your friends is an Amazing thing.

We need more people with this understanding and frame of mind and I assure you that we together can change the world!!!


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Humble Janitor

So, garden variety hemp oil will do the trick?

No it won't, the oil you will get from that will not be strong enough to really treat the disease.


Or does one need to shell out for some fancy-schmancy version of it?

Yes you do, but better yet....grow your own and you don't have to pay (It's not that hard). :)

PM me if you need further help!


Sounds promising and I'm a big fan of cannabis sativa.

I'm glad you like sativas as they are very energetic, but to do the oil the right way you need a pure Indica or a hybrid that is mostly Indica.....specially for cancer treatment as you want the patient to get their rest and not be energetic, remember that sleep and rest are the most important componets to healing the human body!! :)


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NancyV

This I have to break down, I hope you don't mind!!!


It should be fairly well known by now that the "drug war" is perpetuated because of it's profitability to covert and not so covert agencies. Not only the DEA and CIA make huge profits from the drug war, but federal, state and local governments and agencies make large profits from seizures of property and even the drugs. You don't think they actually destroy ALL those drugs, do you?

You're absolutely right, and allow me to prove it to people!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ9fgi7IZSk


I have an interesting perspective on marijuana since I was introduced to drugs at the age of 20 in 1967. My husband and I were in the thick of the peace/love movement in Laguna Beach California. It was sex, drugs and rock and roll to the max! LOL.. The law didn't start really cracking down heavily on drugs, at least where I lived, until the early 70's right around the time when cocaine became the big thing. Cocaine was not a drug that promoted "peace and love", so it may have had something to do with the eventual unraveling and transformation of the peace/love movement.

Funny how that whole thing worked out, going from Love/Peace to Murder/Extortion in a span of just a few years......but we are to belive that the Drug Lords from South America are the bad guys, uh? Think about it!!!


To make a long story shorter I totally gave up drugs overnight and brainwashed myself into detesting all drugs. About a year after giving up drugs I decided I wanted to join the war against drugs and became an undercover contract agent for the DEA. I was a perfect candidate for this job, a good looking, intelligent (but naive!), rabidly anti drug female who knew a lot about the drug business and spoke Spanish, having lived in Mexico when I was 16-17 after I left home. So I divorced my first husband, moved to Mexico and worked in Mexico, Colombia and Peru mostly. It took me about a year to really discover and admit what was going on. I found out that the drug war was basically a charade. There was little difference between the "good" guys and the bad guys. In fact some of the Colombian drug lords I dealt with were a lot more honest than the good guys. I won't go into the details of how I came to know of the total dishonesty of this bogus war on drugs, but suffice it to say that it was proven to my satisfaction beyond a doubt.

You must see this as such an educational experience and it is so GREAT to see an Ex-DEA agent talking about this.....PLEASE people, pay really close attention to NancyV's story as you will definitely learn something!

This is exactly what we need, for our law enforcement agents to wake up and see how they have been manipulated into committing unjust arrests against their fellow human beings. Remember that they are also human and have families that at some point will be in need of this magical herb and then their blinds will be removed.

"NancyV, Me alegro que ayas tomado la gran desicion de haber dejado tu carrera como agent por que despertaste a lo que estaba pasando."


This entire war on drugs is for profit. Until it is more profitable for the government to legalize marijuana and tax sales on it the battle for legalization will remain extremely difficult. Even then the CIA and DEA will not want marijuana legalized. I thought the recent law on the ballot in California had a good chance of passing, but sadly it did not pass. It is not in the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, the government or covert agencies to see marijuana legalized. People have been brainwashed for decades into thinking marijuana is dangerous and even the facts do not sway them from their programming unless they really have an open mind.

I have nothing to add here, so I will let you continue.....


I was anti drugs for many years and still have not used any drugs since my mid 20's except for when I lived in Hawaii in my mid 30's and would occasionally eat the magic mushrooms that grew on our property (mushrooms are awesome!). I was into meditation and leaving my body so I didn't think much about drugs although I still had friends who used marijuana. The Rick Simpson story impressed me when I first saw it a couple of years ago so I started doing a lot of research and came to the conclusion that hemp oil is extremely beneficial. Naturally big pharma does not want it known and will produce bogus studies trying to discredit it, just as they do with all natural substances, herbs, organic foods, etc. that they cannot patent.

NancyV, you are so wonderful......lol (Mushrooms!!!)
Check this thread that I started a while back.......http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10923-New-Shamanic-Documentary-Metamorphosis-A-Journey-of-Tranformation


Oregon is one of the states where it is fairly easy to get a medical marijuana license. My present husband and I are in Washington right now but will be moving back to Oregon in the near future and will definitely get a license. He will be able to qualify for it as he has chronic pain issues. I want to experiment with making the hemp oil and have convinced him that it would be worth a try. He has also been anti drugs for all of his life, but that was basically just the brainwashing and disinformation that is so prevalent in our society.

Just so people know, and if you think I'm making it up then you must listen to this here http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Radio-Freeman-32k-012011.mp3 (Originally posted by Dominic, Thank You so much for this my friend!) as Rick talk's about almost anything that you may want to know about this oil and how it stops someone that has been brainwashed from being controlled....NO JOKE!!!

I wish you great luck and I think you and your husband should be OK in obtaining your licenses, just remember that it is less expensive to grow your own then to buy from a dispensary....also it is more potent as less people handle the plant. Just some friendly advise!!!


The hemp plant is truly amazing and would be of great benefit to the world in so many ways. It's not surprising that those in control do not want it to be easily available and have engaged in a relentless campaign to discredit it. I fully understand str8thinker's attitudes and it's going to take a LOT to deprogram him. That will only happen if he becomes objective and wants to know the truth instead of finding articles that support his theories. We can always find studies and articles that support any theory we have and as long as we trust the FDA and other government agencies and actually think they are working for our benefit, there is little chance of being open to the truth.

Thank you for recognizing this plants amazing value to humans and it's OK if people have their doubts still.....I know how deep the brainwashing can go, I was there once!!!

Best of luck to you and your husband.


Keep up the good work, Alkamyst!

Nancy :)

Thank you NancyV.....you as well my dear!!!


PS
I have a few things that I like to share with you all, so here they go.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...se_of_cannabis

http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wor...healing-salve/ <-----Scroll down and read what a Dr. has to say about cannabis and RH Arthritis!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bh_uITXAoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoZtD-q4tk

http://www.treatingyourself.com/vbul...ad.php?t=37238 <----This is really good info and shows you how to proportion the oil better!

http://diversesanctuary.ning.com/for...Comment%3A9206 <------Highly Recommended!!!

Cannabis Extracts Relieve Pain In Rheumatoid Arthritis, Study Says
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6130

I know some of you are going to ask me eventually how to make the "Holy Anointed Oil", so here it is!!!


In today's measure:
(if 1 shekel = 11.5 grams; 1 hin = 6.5 liters)

5.75 kg (12.68 lbs) liquid myrrh
5.75 kg (12.68 lbs) cassia
2.875 kg (6.34 lbs) fragrant cinnamon
2.875 kg (6.34 lbs) cannabis flowers
6.5 liters (1.72 gallons) olive oil

***REMEMBER*** You can do as much or as little as you want, you just have to follow the measurements!

Blessings to All,
AlkaMyst

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 21:26
NunoSav

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052501729.html

I'll quote this from it:

""We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect." (...) Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood."

I highly suggest reading it.

And watch the movie/documentary:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1111833/

It will get some laughs out of you (hopefully) and still be educational.

Now i'd love for someone to provide me with sound evidence of any harm caused by this plant, even in high doses. I've only found paranoia so far.

Edit: Just to put it all in perspective, nothing better then cartoons :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ6dl4QDkmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ6dl4QDkmM)



THANK YOU so much for all this info, great article and awesome cartoon!!!

I have seen the documentary before and I also own it....I'll be posting it up soon for everyone to watch along with "Marijuana - A Chronic History".....this documentary you won't be able to find online!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

AlkaMyst
28th January 2011, 22:11
OK guys just as I promised, here are tow more great documentaries that everyone should watch!!!

Super High Me (Thanks NunoSav)
http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/Super_High_Me/index.html

Marijuana - A Chronic History
http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/MJ_Chronic_History/index.html

ENJOY!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

str8thinker
28th January 2011, 23:48
Thanks Nancy for giving us insight into why you view marijuana the way you do. I find this absolutely credible.


I fully understand str8thinker's attitudes and it's going to take a LOT to deprogram him.

Well, let me tell you my little story. When I was about 9 years old, my father took me to our local town hall where they were running a health and wellness exhibition. One of the exhibits (presumably by the anti-smoking lobby) was a human lung cut open and preserved in formalin in a large jar. The inside of the lung was black and my father told me that that's what happens to your lungs when you smoke. It put me off smoking for life. I now realize that the black coating was not due to tobacco but carbon from the exhaust fumes of living in the city. However, I have never smoked, nor have I been subject to peer pressure in my teens when it was cool to smoke with the rest of the guys. My partner smokes (outdoors) and I am tolerant to those who smoke, though not keen on passive smoking.

When Sir Walter Raleigh first introduced tobacco to Elizabethan England from the West Indies, it was a powerful leaf, requiring long clay pipes to cool the smoke, a far cry from today's synthetic cigarettes. Nevertheless, it is well documented that smoking reduces respiratory capacity and contributes greatly to the risk of developing lung cancer and peripheral vascular disease. Nasty.

I've been to parties where the air is thick with marijuana smoke, but somehow it's never had any noticeable effect on me. I've never had the urge to chew hash cookies either, but I've never preached to those who do. I've seen the way people behave when they're stoned and would not like to get into a car driven by them. I believe people when they say they have difficulty remembering things and become depressed by smoking pot to escape their responsibilities.

That said, anyone who is trusted with the responsibility for helping others, either medically or psychologically, needs to be entirely objective about claims made for the therapeutic efficacy of marijuana or any other drug. If the results are too unpredictable, how can one confidently know whether to recommend a drug, or indeed advise a patient to self-medicate himself/herself if the drug is unavailable. No wonder physicians are reluctant to advise using THC, and it's not simply because of legal implications or bribery by Big Pharma. If you feel strongly enough about it, do what Jim Howenstine did and move to Costa Rica. I would be overjoyed if properly supervised studies prove that crude THC oil has a high rate of success in treating lung cancer, but on the other hand I would not like to see a physician sued by the relatives of a patient who died after taking his advice to use this compound.

I'm not saying that the studies to date have not shown promise, only that safe protocols for using it alone or in conjunction with other medications have not been established. I'm sure this will come about eventually, although THC will have to compete with newer designer drugs that may indeed be more specific, together with alternative treatments such as specific molecular antibodies and gene therapy.

In terms of it being used prophylactically, e.g., to prevent cancer, that is even more difficult to establish, as long term double-blind trials lasting many years are required.

Progress takes time. Compare acupuncture, which was thought to be Chinese mumbo-jumbo not many years ago but now has an established place in both orthodox and alternative medicine.

Teakai
29th January 2011, 00:07
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Teakai


We are playing with words here my dear friend, think about this for a second.....When one talks about abuse whether it is physical, mental or through the use of any substance, one is referring to a repetitiveness of such event. For example, if someone is being physically abuse then one may conclude that is due to someone beating on someone else in a repetitiveness manner which in term can call be consider excess (excessive behavior). Now the same can be said for mental abuse as the event is being repeated over and over and it's also happening in an excessive manner. And drugs we already discussed, so see where the relation could be made to the same use of two different words that they have programmed people to believe they mean different things!!!

If I'm not making my self quite clear, then please forgive me and just PM me and we will continue there!!! :)

AlkaMyst

Hi Alkamyst :)
I think that the words are important and we need to look at them for the understood meaning and not attach our own to them. You are using the connection that marijuana = repetitive = abuse due to your own programming.
Abusive and repetitive are not the same.
Abusive and extreme are not the same.

Now, I have no idea if repetitive marijuana use has long term negative effects – if it doesn’t, then there is no harm in it, no abuse.

Repetitive drinking of water is most beneficial – and to NOT do it repetitively would be detrimental to one’s health.

Alcohol has been proven beyond a doubt to have long term negative effects. To know this and to continue the behaviour is an indication of underlying psychological problems – it has to be – it is against the survival mechanism of the body to destroy itself – so the message to do so is coming from the mind.

In any of the cases – as far as I’m concerned it is up to the adult individual to choose their own behaviour – not for anyone else to pass laws to control it.

DeDukshyn
29th January 2011, 02:30
... but on the other hand I would not like to see a physician sued by the relatives of a patient who died after taking his advice to use this compound.



I don't think there are any recorded incidences of people dying from cannabis use. prescription drugs kill ~800,000 people every year in US alone. What would you take you chances with? Not necessarily advocating it (medicinally for sure -but it is a choice), but the facts do speak.

NancyV
29th January 2011, 03:41
Thanks Nancy for giving us insight into why you view marijuana the way you do. I find this absolutely credible.

Well, let me tell you my little story. When I was about 9 years old, my father took me to our local town hall where they were running a health and wellness exhibition. One of the exhibits (presumably by the anti-smoking lobby) was a human lung cut open and preserved in formalin in a large jar. The inside of the lung was black and my father told me that that's what happens to your lungs when you smoke. It put me off smoking for life. I now realize that the black coating was not due to tobacco but carbon from the exhaust fumes of living in the city. However, I have never smoked, nor have I been subject to peer pressure in my teens when it was cool to smoke with the rest of the guys. My partner smokes (outdoors) and I am tolerant to those who smoke, though not keen on passive smoking.

When Sir Walter Raleigh first introduced tobacco to Elizabethan England from the West Indies, it was a powerful leaf, requiring long clay pipes to cool the smoke, a far cry from today's synthetic cigarettes. Nevertheless, it is well documented that smoking reduces respiratory capacity and contributes greatly to the risk of developing lung cancer and peripheral vascular disease. Nasty.

I've been to parties where the air is thick with marijuana smoke, but somehow it's never had any noticeable effect on me. I've never had the urge to chew hash cookies either, but I've never preached to those who do. I've seen the way people behave when they're stoned and would not like to get into a car driven by them. I believe people when they say they have difficulty remembering things and become depressed by smoking pot to escape their responsibilities.

That said, anyone who is trusted with the responsibility for helping others, either medically or psychologically, needs to be entirely objective about claims made for the therapeutic efficacy of marijuana or any other drug. If the results are too unpredictable, how can one confidently know whether to recommend a drug, or indeed advise a patient to self-medicate himself/herself if the drug is unavailable. No wonder physicians are reluctant to advise using THC, and it's not simply because of legal implications or bribery by Big Pharma. If you feel strongly enough about it, do what Jim Howenstine did and move to Costa Rica. I would be overjoyed if properly supervised studies prove that crude THC oil has a high rate of success in treating lung cancer, but on the other hand I would not like to see a physician sued by the relatives of a patient who died after taking his advice to use this compound.

I'm not saying that the studies to date have not shown promise, only that safe protocols for using it alone or in conjunction with other medications have not been established. I'm sure this will come about eventually, although THC will have to compete with newer designer drugs that may indeed be more specific, together with alternative treatments such as specific molecular antibodies and gene therapy.

In terms of it being used prophylactically, e.g., to prevent cancer, that is even more difficult to establish, as long term double-blind trials lasting many years are required.

Progress takes time. Compare acupuncture, which was thought to be Chinese mumbo-jumbo not many years ago but now has an established place in both orthodox and alternative medicine.
Str8thinker, I can see why you chose your name! LOL... You were obviously a straight thinker even when you were 9 years old! I tried to smoke a cigarette a couple of times in my 20's and nearly choked to death. That's another reason it was difficult for me to smoke marijuana, because I didn't like inhaling smoke into my lungs. My husband has also never smoked other than a cigar here and there a few times in his life. He has also only smoked marijuana once and said it did nothing to or for him at all. Maybe he (and you) are just naturally high, or maybe you're some type of aliens with strange metabolisms!

But I am fascinated with all the research done on hemp oil. I want to grow the plants, make the oil and experiment with it. One of my favorite hobbies is experimenting with different herbs and machines that are supposed to be beneficial for healing, in fact my husband always gets worried when I get some new herb or strange liquid (like MMS) that I convince him to try. I have actually poisoned both of us more than several times! LOL... Such is the price of using yourself in your own experiments.

I understand that you want proof that hemp oil is safe, but I do not require any mainstream medical study type proof and I like to try things myself because no amount of proof will tell you if something will work for YOU. I also do not care one whit about doctors studies, clinical trials, etc. At best it can be an indication of possibilities and probabilities but at worst it could be lies or misinformation in slanted studies commissioned by the FDA or a pharmaceutical company that would like to block something that would compete with their poisons or promote one of their new horrendous concoctions.

My object is not to get high since I'm pretty high every day of my life, just on life! You sound like a very intelligent, logical, reasonable person and thanks so much for your very interesting comments!

Nancy :)

Teakai
29th January 2011, 05:40
A few parts of your post made me laugh out loud, Nancy. I do so enjoy laughing out loud :)

I especially liked : "my husband always gets worried when I get some new herb or strange liquid (like MMS) that I convince him to try. I have actually poisoned both of us more than several times! LOL... Such is the price of using yourself in your own experiments. "

Your poor husband. I hope you have something for his nerves. :)

NunoSav
29th January 2011, 12:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k36w8xuj6Fc&feature=feedu

If i missed the video in anyones post ignore this, otherwise enjoy :)

9eagle9
29th January 2011, 13:06
We need more guinea pigs, Nancy. Sick ones. I try stuff out on myself and have no idea if it works the way its supposed to because I never get sick anymore. Is it curing? Who knows? I just know find out whether the dose is too high...lol.

AlkaMyst
29th January 2011, 20:12
str8thinker

Well, let me tell you my little story. When I was about 9 years old, my father took me to our local town hall where they were running a health and wellness exhibition. One of the exhibits (presumably by the anti-smoking lobby) was a human lung cut open and preserved in formalin in a large jar. The inside of the lung was black and my father told me that that's what happens to your lungs when you smoke. It put me off smoking for life. I now realize that the black coating was not due to tobacco but carbon from the exhaust fumes of living in the city. However, I have never smoked, nor have I been subject to peer pressure in my teens when it was cool to smoke with the rest of the guys. My partner smokes (outdoors) and I am tolerant to those who smoke, though not keen on passive smoking.

When Sir Walter Raleigh first introduced tobacco to Elizabethan England from the West Indies, it was a powerful leaf, requiring long clay pipes to cool the smoke, a far cry from today's synthetic cigarettes. Nevertheless, it is well documented that smoking reduces respiratory capacity and contributes greatly to the risk of developing lung cancer and peripheral vascular disease. Nasty.

I've been to parties where the air is thick with marijuana smoke, but somehow it's never had any noticeable effect on me. I've never had the urge to chew hash cookies either, but I've never preached to those who do. I've seen the way people behave when they're stoned and would not like to get into a car driven by them. I believe people when they say they have difficulty remembering things and become depressed by smoking pot to escape their responsibilities.

That said, anyone who is trusted with the responsibility for helping others, either medically or psychologically, needs to be entirely objective about claims made for the therapeutic efficacy of marijuana or any other drug. If the results are too unpredictable, how can one confidently know whether to recommend a drug, or indeed advise a patient to self-medicate himself/herself if the drug is unavailable. No wonder physicians are reluctant to advise using THC, and it's not simply because of legal implications or bribery by Big Pharma. If you feel strongly enough about it, do what Jim Howenstine did and move to Costa Rica. I would be overjoyed if properly supervised studies prove that crude THC oil has a high rate of success in treating lung cancer, but on the other hand I would not like to see a physician sued by the relatives of a patient who died after taking his advice to use this compound.

I'm not saying that the studies to date have not shown promise, only that safe protocols for using it alone or in conjunction with other medications have not been established. I'm sure this will come about eventually, although THC will have to compete with newer designer drugs that may indeed be more specific, together with alternative treatments such as specific molecular antibodies and gene therapy.

In terms of it being used prophylactically, e.g., to prevent cancer, that is even more difficult to establish, as long term double-blind trials lasting many years are required.

Progress takes time. Compare acupuncture, which was thought to be Chinese mumbo-jumbo not many years ago but now has an established place in both orthodox and alternative medicine.

I completely understand your point of view and where you're coming from.....I really value all of your input my friend, even if I don't agree with it I SURE DO RESPECT IT!!!

It is always good to have different points of view on any topic being discussed and you have very important and valid ones, but when one looks at the overwhelming evidence being presented then it must be researched to see it's validity for it could be of great value to humans!!!

Thank You, and I admire your courage!!!.......Constructive Arguments are always welcome as this is a great way to learn!

Teakai

Hi Alkamyst
I think that the words are important and we need to look at them for the understood meaning and not attach our own to them. You are using the connection that marijuana = repetitive = abuse due to your own programming.
Abusive and repetitive are not the same.
Abusive and extreme are not the same.

Now, I have no idea if repetitive marijuana use has long term negative effects – if it doesn’t, then there is no harm in it, no abuse.

Repetitive drinking of water is most beneficial – and to NOT do it repetitively would be detrimental to one’s health.

Alcohol has been proven beyond a doubt to have long term negative effects. To know this and to continue the behaviour is an indication of underlying psychological problems – it has to be – it is against the survival mechanism of the body to destroy itself – so the message to do so is coming from the mind.

In any of the cases – as far as I’m concerned it is up to the adult individual to choose their own behaviour – not for anyone else to pass laws to control it.

My friend, you may be right on this one and I like to apologize for making such an argument about it.....and as you mentioned above "up to the adult individual to choose their own behaviour – not for anyone else to pass laws to control it." I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

DeDukshyn

I don't think there are any recorded incidences of people dying from cannabis use. prescription drugs kill ~800,000 people every year in US alone. What would you take you chances with? Not necessarily advocating it (medicinally for sure -but it is a choice), but the facts do speak.

Very well said DeDukshyn.......I agree with you 100%

Teakai

A few parts of your post made me laugh out loud, Nancy. I do so enjoy laughing out loud

I especially liked : "my husband always gets worried when I get some new herb or strange liquid (like MMS) that I convince him to try. I have actually poisoned both of us more than several times! LOL... Such is the price of using yourself in your own experiments. "

Your poor husband. I hope you have something for his nerves.

YES.....I was also ROFLMAO. Poor man. :)

NunoSav

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k36w8...&feature=feedu

If i missed the video in anyones post ignore this, otherwise enjoy :)

Awesome.....Thanks NunoSav, I have seen this before but for those who haven't it's a great way to see a testimonial for themselves!!!

9eagle9

We need more guinea pigs, Nancy. Sick ones. I try stuff out on myself and have no idea if it works the way its supposed to because I never get sick anymore. Is it curing? Who knows? I just know find out whether the dose is too high...lol.

Agree......I can't help either as I don't get sick either (I wounder why? lol) :drag:

PS
Guys, take a look at this link here......it has a couple of really good recipes on how to make "Cannabis Healing oil" and "Cannabis Ointment".

http://www.earthreggae.com/yard/forun/Medicinal-Cannabis/18-Cannabis-Healing-oil.html

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

9eagle9
29th January 2011, 23:26
THe more I think about the whole Stress reduces immunity, Pot reduces stress = better immunity (assuming one doesn't turn into Beavis and Butthead.)

Not sure I'd use it for depression in others as it may make them emo dependant on pot, if they were smoking and not working on their issues but I would be curious to try it with someone who was willing to partake (in whatever fashion) and do their core belief work too.

AlkaMyst
29th January 2011, 23:34
9eagle9


THe more I think about the whole Stress reduces immunity, Pot reduces stress = better immunity

SOOOOO..........True!!!!


(assuming one doesn't turn into Beavis and Butthead.)

ROFLMAO..........That's just too funny!!!


I would be curious to try it with someone who was willing to partake (in whatever fashion) and do their core belief work too.

I would love to be that person.........too bad it can't be due to distance! :(

But I will join you virtually!!! :drag:

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

MargueriteBee
29th January 2011, 23:39
I just sent the link to the YouTube video to my sister who has cancer. I don't know if she will watch it, her husband is a former deputy sheriff and he may freak out about it.

AlkaMyst
29th January 2011, 23:47
MargueriteBee

I just sent the link to the YouTube video to my sister who has cancer. I don't know if she will watch it, her husband is a former deputy sheriff and he may freak out about it.

I really hope she watches it (All my love goes to her! :hug:), and I hope her husband is open minded enough to realize that this plant can give his wife back her life......Good Luck!

Love, Peace and Blessings,
AlkaMyst

9eagle9
30th January 2011, 00:17
She can get him high...he'll get over it :)

Karl:J
30th January 2011, 01:39
The reason that hemp is illegal spreads to more than just the health industry but by far the biggest reason is it's ability to cure almost any ailment we as humans can suffer from. These links are ones i use to give info to those who need some education...:-

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/
http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml
http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/pot/blunderof37.html
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_marijuana_illegal
http://www.idmu.co.uk/historical.htm

AlkaMyst
30th January 2011, 02:49
9eagle9

She can get him high...he'll get over it :)

Absolutely, a little bit of White Widow or OG Kush and he will be on Mellow Mode!


Karl:J

The reason that hemp is illegal spreads to more than just the health industry but by far the biggest reason is it's ability to cure almost any ailment we as humans can suffer from. These links are ones i use to give info to those who need some education...:-

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/
http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml
http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/pot/blunderof37.html
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/...juana-illegal/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_marijuana_illegal
http://www.idmu.co.uk/historical.htm

Thank you for all this great links, I wasn't even aware about some of this stuff......great find Karl:J

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Kra
30th January 2011, 06:52
AlkaMyst thank you for creating this thread and for the effort you've put into it. It is well appreciated and i'm with you on this.

scootiep
30th January 2011, 08:55
Hi all,

I was watching a programme yesterday about Hemp Oil on Showcase TV, SKY Channel 201 and how it is used to cure Cancer and other medicinal purposes, also used as a pain killer.

Has anybody used this before? or has known somebody to have used it with success?

I am asking because my gf's mother suffers from chronic back pain and was wondering if this would be good to use? Instead of the several different types of drugs she is priscribed by the doctor, as she suffers with Parkinsons and has Crohn's disease.

The only problem is as I live in the UK Hemp oil is illegal here because of the "THC" concerntration.

Thanks for any response,

Scott

sheddie
30th January 2011, 09:12
Hi all,

I was watching a programme yesterday about Hemp Oil on Showcase TV, SKY Channel 201 and how it is used to cure Cancer and other medicinal purposes, also used as a pain killer.

Has anybody used this before? or has known somebody to have used it with success?

I am asking because my gf's mother suffers from chronic back pain and was wondering if this would be good to use? Instead of the millions of drugs she is priscribed by the doctor, as she suffers with Parkinsons and has Crohn's disease.

The only problem is as I live in the UK Hemp oil is illegal here because of the "THC" concerntration.

Thanks for any response,

Scott

Hi Scott

Loads of information here :)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11704-What-Big-Pharma-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-Know-About-CANNABIS-the-cure-for-Cancer!!!

AlkaMist should be able to help you with your query. Sorry to hear about your girlfriend's mum.

x:yo:

scootiep
30th January 2011, 09:15
Thanks for the link and the concern sheddie :) very much appreciated.

Have a great day!!

Scott

sheddie
30th January 2011, 09:34
You're welcome :)

I would also like to know if we can get Hemp Oil in the UK, I am always interested in new natural healing methods/products.

take carex

scootiep
30th January 2011, 12:18
You're welcome :)

I would also like to know if we can get Hemp Oil in the UK, I am always interested in new natural healing methods/products.

take carex

Well we could always try and get in touch with a local dealer to get the good stuff and make it ourselves lol

But apparantly it is quite dangerous to make as the solvent which is used to make the oil is very highly flammable!!

Knowing me I would rush into it without properly thinking about how and what i'm going to do and ka-boom!! I'm not one for reading instructions or to be told what to do, I just like to work things out myself!

Like you say sheddie I too would like to find out how to get hold of Hemp oil in the Uk I wonder if there is anybody on here in the UK that has?

gong
30th January 2011, 12:26
Is there a difference between Hemp Oil and Hempseed Oil???

I'm in the UK also and I use Hempseed oil in salads etc, not easy to get but readily available in organic shops etc

scootiep
30th January 2011, 12:50
Is there a difference between Hemp Oil and Hempseed Oil???

I'm in the UK also and I use Hempseed oil in salads etc, not easy to get but readily available in organic shops etc

Hi Gong,

To my knowledge the Hemp oil is made from everything off the plant; the leaves the bud etc... which is then used for medicinal purposes.

The Hemp plant seeds can be eaten or they can then be pressed to make the hemp seed oil which is used like you say on salads etc...

Hope this helps,

Scott

TWINNICK
30th January 2011, 12:53
Well we could always try and get in touch with a local dealer to get the good stuff and make it ourselves lol

But apparantly it is quite dangerous to make as the solvent which is used to make the oil is very highly flammable!!

Knowing me I would rush into it without properly thinking about how and what i'm going to do and ka-boom!! I'm not one for reading instructions or to be told what to do, I just like to work things out myself!

Like you say sheddie I too would like to find out how to get hold of Hemp oil in the Uk I wonder if there is anybody on here in the UK that has?


G'day Why would you want to use a chemical to extract the oil, just make or buy a press and press the oil under force out of the heads.

The natural way to do it with no chemicals and pure as it should be. Or you can just eat a bud a couple of times a day, I don't think you will get stoned, ok maybe a little perhaps but you will have all the benefits of the oil as nature intended.

..Nick..

Swami
30th January 2011, 12:57
Is there a difference between Hemp Oil and Hempseed Oil???

I'm in the UK also and I use Hempseed oil in salads etc, not easy to get but readily available in organic shops etc



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

gong
30th January 2011, 13:17
Hi Gong,

To my knowledge the Hemp oil is made from everything off the plant; the leaves the bud etc... which is then used for medicinal purposes.

Scott

hi Scott - thanks.
Watched the vid in the link briefly and whilst only the 1st part, seems very intriguing. Did not realise you can make oil from the 'frosty' substance on the buds- must be lots of water, little oil in there.
Did a quick google and could not find anyone selling hemp oil that clearly identifies that difference...maybe needs more digging on that search I only spent a few minutes,
sorry I can't help you with that but thanks for clarifying anyway.

EDIT: thanks sawmi for posting again

9eagle9
30th January 2011, 13:26
Can I PM you about this so I don't derail the thread?


Hi all,

I was watching a programme yesterday about Hemp Oil on Showcase TV, SKY Channel 201 and how it is used to cure Cancer and other medicinal purposes, also used as a pain killer.

Has anybody used this before? or has known somebody to have used it with success?

I am asking because my gf's mother suffers from chronic back pain and was wondering if this would be good to use? Instead of the several different types of drugs she is priscribed by the doctor, as she suffers with Parkinsons and has Crohn's disease.

The only problem is as I live in the UK Hemp oil is illegal here because of the "THC" concerntration.

Thanks for any response,

Scott

scootiep
30th January 2011, 13:55
G'day Why would you want to use a chemical to extract the oil, just make or buy a press and press the oil under force out of the heads.

The natural way to do it with no chemicals and pure as it should be. Or you can just eat a bud a couple of times a day, I don't think you will get stoned, ok maybe a little perhaps but you will have all the benefits of the oil as nature intended.

..Nick..

Hi Twinnick,

I think the solvent is used to abosrb all the goodness from the plant, The solvent is then burnt off at the right temperature so the final product does not have any traces of it.

But like you say i agree with you in the natural way that would be my preffered option as less chance of me getting burnt lol

scootiep
30th January 2011, 14:00
hi Scott - thanks.
Watched the vid in the link briefly and whilst only the 1st part, seems very intriguing. Did not realise you can make oil from the 'frosty' substance on the buds- must be lots of water, little oil in there.
Did a quick google and could not find anyone selling hemp oil that clearly identifies that difference...maybe needs more digging on that search I only spent a few minutes,
sorry I can't help you with that but thanks for clarifying anyway.

EDIT: thanks sawmi for posting again

No probs anytime :) another point is the hemp seeds do not contain "THC" so it can be sold in the UK, but the hemp oil is produced from the buds and leaves so thats why it is illegal and i think will make it very hard to get hold of in this country.

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Can I PM you about this so I don't derail the thread?

Yeah sure no probs I have just PM'd you.

Krullenjongen
30th January 2011, 15:05
Is there a difference between Hemp Oil and Hempseed Oil???

I'm in the UK also and I use Hempseed oil in salads etc, not easy to get but readily available in organic shops etc


Yes there is a big difference!
Hempseed oil is made just from the seeds of the hemp plant and as far as i know does not contain any THC (this is the chemical that make you high when you smoke Marijuana and is also the key ingredient of the hemp oil)

Hemp oil is made from the buds of the Marijuana plant.
This is why it is so hard to get because in most countries it is forbidden to grow Marijuana.
When the Marijuana plant is fully grown you harvest the buds only and soke them in naphta or isopropanol (like i do)
(You can't use water because water does not desolve the THC)
You then drain of the isopropanol and wash the buds again and drain them again, after that you throw the buds away.
You have now washed of / desolved the THC from the buds and now you have to get rid of the isopropanol.
You do this by heating it in a pan or ricecooker (i take the later, this is more safe because isopropanol is highly flamable and you don't have an open flame this way)
You have to do this outside or in a very well ventilated room.
You keep the heat on until there is a thinker oily substance left and there you have the real hemp oil which has a high concentration of THC.

Jay
30th January 2011, 15:36
I have used hemp oil on a crusty mole - it was WONDERFUL. It took a bit of time, daily application (and it doesn't smell great) but what an amazing cure! That mole has not given ANY problems since treatment over a year ago.
I only hope and pray the pharmaceutical companies don't climb in and make it unavailable like so many other good remedies....
PS i used "Hempo3" available in south africa.
see ....hempo3.co.za/

9eagle9
30th January 2011, 16:32
I use all sorts plant and botanical oils for emotional, mental and physical healing so I see no reason why pot would be any different than say Franckinsense or Cinnamon bark oil. Cellular healing, plant essences correct the cellular function of any cell on a subconscious and physical level.


I have a goodish supply of oils and they are way expensive investment in the long term although they are hugely effective. It would be nice if there was one do all oil, if only on the easing the stress on the pocket book. I'd probably not give up my other oils, since I'm way too attached but I'm wild with curiosity how well they'd work in conjunction with hemp oil.

passiglight
30th January 2011, 18:54
Thank you Alkamyst for your illuminating thread.

I have broken virtually every bone in my body over the course of my life and some more than once,, including a back injury so serious that it should have been operated on but then they asked me to sign a disclosure excusing them from accidentally paralyzing, me i got up of the hospital bed and walked out of there mumbling something about bunch of tossers.

I have had 2, possibly more, head fractures one of them completely across the crown of my head from ear to ear,,,, they suspended my drivers license for 2 years, i lost my memory etc, etc,,,

One time i broke my right leg both bones like a spring twists,,i took the plaster off that night because it got on my nerves, 3 days later i was in hospital for check up,, doc says oh my,, where's your plaster,,, i said in the bin,,,he moaned at me, after a while said if i could do something for him he would let it be,,, i said ok what ?? he said stand on one leg (broken one) then go down till your bum is touching your heel on that one leg,,, i did what he asked and then just looked at him and walked out of there,, mumbling something about tossers,,,
I have smoked dope all my life,,,,,,,
I have a well above average iq as tested by mensa,, i am fit as fiddle, e.g. few years ago i could read and write java,,i ride mountain bike,,am sharp,fast and agile, and 47 etc etc,,,,,,,

The lies that are spread about dope is NWO bollocks and lies.

They just simply want us dead asap

Bravo Alkamyst TRUTH ENLIGHTENER

AlkaMyst
30th January 2011, 19:10
Kra

AlkaMyst thank you for creating this thread and for the effort you've put into it. It is well appreciated and i'm with you on this.

My pleasure..... :yo:

And thanks for your words of support, I really appreciate them!

9eagle9

I use all sorts plant and botanical oils for emotional, mental and physical healing so I see no reason why pot would be any different than say Franckinsense or Cinnamon bark oil. Cellular healing, plant essences correct the cellular function of any cell on a subconscious and physical level.

I have a goodish supply of oils and they are way expensive investment in the long term although they are hugely effective. It would be nice if there was one do all oil, if only on the easing the stress on the pocket book. I'd probably not give up my other oils, since I'm way too attached but I'm wild with curiosity how well they'd work in conjunction with hemp oil.

Don't you just love "OILS"?.........I know I'm a sucker for them. To answer your question, you can use hemp oil with just about any other oil to make it even more therapeutic (take a look at the recipe for the "Holy Anointing Oil" the one that it's talked about in the bible)


In today's measure:
(if 1 shekel = 11.5 grams; 1 hin = 6.5 liters)

5.75 kg (12.68 lbs) liquid myrrh
5.75 kg (12.68 lbs) cassia
2.875 kg (6.34 lbs) fragrant cinnamon
2.875 kg (6.34 lbs) cannabis flowers
6.5 liters (1.72 gallons) olive oil

***REMEMBER*** You can do as much or as little as you want, you just have to follow the measurements and use the correct proportions!

This oil was used in ancient times to cure just about any disease!!! :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

AlkaMyst
30th January 2011, 19:44
passiglight

Thank you Alkamyst for your illuminating thread.

I have broken virtually every bone in my body over the course of my life and some more than once,, including a back injury so serious that it should have been operated on but then they asked me to sign a disclosure excusing them from accidentally paralyzing, me i got up of the hospital bed and walked out of there mumbling something about bunch of tossers.

I have had 2, possibly more, head fractures one of them completely across the crown of my head from ear to ear,,,, they suspended my drivers license for 2 years, i lost my memory etc, etc,,,

One time i broke my right leg both bones like a spring twists,,i took the plaster off that night because it got on my nerves, 3 days later i was in hospital for check up,, doc says oh my,, where's your plaster,,, i said in the bin,,,he moaned at me, after a while said if i could do something for him he would let it be,,, i said ok what ?? he said stand on one leg (broken one) then go down till your bum is touching your heel on that one leg,,, i did what he asked and then just looked at him and walked out of there,, mumbling something about tossers,,,
I have smoked dope all my life,,,,,,,
I have a well above average iq as tested by mensa,, i am fit as fiddle, e.g. few years ago i could read and write java,,i ride mountain bike,,am sharp,fast and agile, and 47 etc etc,,,,,,,


First and foremost.....WOW, how deeply sorry I am to hear that you have had so many tragic events throughout the course of your current life or maybe it could be looked at as experiences for one to learn from or perhaps even karma.

I just love the "tossers" comments......I think that's just hilarious :lol:

passiglight, I know where you're coming from.....I have used cannabis for at least 20 years of my life and actually instead of "Dumming Me Down" I has actually made me wiser and I have no short memory problems either. I will tell you that peoples rude's comments weed it do not bother anymore, I also have an above average IQ and ever since I can remember I have just been very odd and unique, I am only 33 years young (:lol:) but my mind thinks like an older person, it always has!......it is very hard for me to carry a constructive conversation with most people now a days, as the are just too ignorant and closed minded (Not their fault, due to Mind Control) and I have lost many so called friends over this. But I will tell you this and I can only speak for myself, but the more I learn and the wiser I become...THE LESS I WANT TO SPEAK!!! As I really have nothing to prove to anyone except for myself!

I come here (Project Avalon Forum) because people are open minded and can as a collective discuss any subject at hand with good constructive criticism whether it be positive or negative. This is an awesome COMMUNITY.....I just had to say that!!! :)


The lies that are spread about dope is NWO bollocks and lies.

They just simply want us dead asap


FULLY AGREE!!!


Bravo Alkamyst TRUTH ENLIGHTENER

Thank you so much, I am humbled by the comment above!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

scootiep
31st January 2011, 13:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw

Swami,

Thanks for the video - this is the exact programme I watched on TV lol

Scott

passiglight
31st January 2011, 18:46
passiglight


First and foremost.....WOW, how deeply sorry I am to hear that you have had so many tragic events throughout the course of your current life or maybe it could be looked at as experiences for one to learn from or perhaps even karma.

I just love the "tossers" comments......I think that's just hilarious :lol:

passiglight, I know where you're coming from.....I have used cannabis for at least 20 years of my life and actually instead of "Dumming Me Down" I has actually made me wiser and I have no short memory problems either. I will tell you that peoples rude's comments weed it do not bother anymore, I also have an above average IQ and ever since I can remember I have just been very odd and unique, I am only 33 years young (:lol:) but my mind thinks like an older person, it always has!......it is very hard for me to carry a constructive conversation with most people now a days, as the are just too ignorant and closed minded (Not their fault, due to Mind Control) and I have lost many so called friends over this. But I will tell you this and I can only speak for myself, but the more I learn and the wiser I become...THE LESS I WANT TO SPEAK!!! As I really have nothing to prove to anyone except for myself!

I come here (Project Avalon Forum) because people are open minded and can as a collective discuss any subject at hand with good constructive criticism whether it be positive or negative. This is an awesome COMMUNITY.....I just had to say that!!! :)



FULLY AGREE!!!



Thank you so much, I am humbled by the comment above!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

It is me who is humbled by your blessings Alkamyst many thanks.

No need for sorry's either, i have never been fazed or bothered about the silly scrapes i got into,, its only a container lol,
actually the broken bones were only the tip of an iceberg,,
the being engulfed by a huge fireball and burnt to a crisp was a tad tiresome,,,(mostly just cos the smell of burnt human flesh is pretty naff lol) and shooting myself wasn't too clever either lol..falling off very high things wasn't too smart either i suppose,, the list goes on lmao,,,,
It doesn't bother me at all,, i've calmed down a lot in my older years,,,
But thank you for your kind words they mean the world to me :-)))

DeDukshyn
5th February 2011, 04:27
passiglight


First and foremost.....WOW, how deeply sorry I am to hear that you have had so many tragic events throughout the course of your current life or maybe it could be looked at as experiences for one to learn from or perhaps even karma.

I just love the "tossers" comments......I think that's just hilarious :lol:

passiglight, I know where you're coming from.....I have used cannabis for at least 20 years of my life and actually instead of "Dumming Me Down" I has actually made me wiser and I have no short memory problems either. I will tell you that peoples rude's comments weed it do not bother anymore, I also have an above average IQ and ever since I can remember I have just been very odd and unique, I am only 33 years young (:lol:) but my mind thinks like an older person, it always has!......it is very hard for me to carry a constructive conversation with most people now a days, as the are just too ignorant and closed minded (Not their fault, due to Mind Control) and I have lost many so called friends over this. But I will tell you this and I can only speak for myself, but the more I learn and the wiser I become...THE LESS I WANT TO SPEAK!!! As I really have nothing to prove to anyone except for myself!

I come here (Project Avalon Forum) because people are open minded and can as a collective discuss any subject at hand with good constructive criticism whether it be positive or negative. This is an awesome COMMUNITY.....I just had to say that!!! :)



FULLY AGREE!!!



Thank you so much, I am humbled by the comment above!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

It is me who is humbled by your blessings Alkamyst many thanks.

No need for sorry's either, i have never been fazed or bothered about the silly scrapes i got into,, its only a container lol,
actually the broken bones were only the tip of an iceberg,,
the being engulfed by a huge fireball and burnt to a crisp was a tad tiresome,,,(mostly just cos the smell of burnt human flesh is pretty naff lol) and shooting myself wasn't too clever either lol..falling off very high things wasn't too smart either i suppose,, the list goes on lmao,,,,
It doesn't bother me at all,, i've calmed down a lot in my older years,,,
But thank you for your kind words they mean the world to me :-)))

Did I see you on Jackass??!! ;-)

Richard.P
8th February 2011, 13:19
I live in the uk and got some from elixir health in wadebridge cornwall, try their website.

Lucc30
8th February 2011, 13:48
The alternative chemical solvent used to extract the oil is no other than pure ethylalcohol - or pure vodka. But at the temperatur required (to get the benefit from both water- and oil-soluble plantextract) to evaporate the alcohol, the vapour gets highly flammable/explosive. Use a precise hot liquid termometer and NO sparks (no smoking while cooking :-)) and you should be fine.
This extraction metod is more economical end more wholesome than pressing.

Good luck

EDIT: Here's a link to how to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZXGH6mYr3Y

The One
8th February 2011, 13:56
You could also try mms (miracle mineral solution)

http://www.jimhumble.biz/

Roman195
8th February 2011, 14:29
Is there a difference between Hemp Oil and Hempseed Oil???

I'm in the UK also and I use Hempseed oil in salads etc, not easy to get but readily available in organic shops etc



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
Rick Simpson manifests the qualities of a "Saint", in my discernment, this puts him in the League of Honorable People, like Mother Theresa...

Roman195
8th February 2011, 14:36
Another point to add to this post....If this chaos that might happen to Humanity manifests; Would it not be wise to have this plant nearby for medicine, food , fuel and it's use as a tool?

Lucc30
8th February 2011, 15:40
Another point to add to this post....If this chaos that might happen to Humanity manifests; Would it not be wise to have this plant nearby for medicine, food , fuel and it's use as a tool?

Perfectly agree. The hemp plant is one of the most versatile plant on the face of earth!

Dennis Leahy
8th February 2011, 16:04
The alternative chemical solvent used to extract the oil is no other than pure ethylalcohol - or pure vodka. But at the temperatur required (to get the benefit from both water- and oil-soluble plantextract) to evaporate the alcohol, the vapour gets highly flammable/explosive. Use a precise hot liquid termometer and NO sparks (no smoking while cooking :-)) and you should be fine.
This extraction metod is more economical end more wholesome than pressing.

Good luck

EDIT: Here's a link to how to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZXGH6mYr3Y

Yes, the two main solvents used to extract the goodies from plants are water and ethyl alcohol. If extracted via water, it is "tea"; if extracted via alcohol, it is called a "tincture." In modern parlance, an "oil extract."

Certain parts of any plant can be extracted using water, but think about the old "oil and water don't mix" adage, and you'll see why oils are extracted using alcohol. You could get some of the oils by crushing the plant, but I'll bet you can get 20 times more, maybe even 100 times more of the oils out via oil extraction. The liquid from the crushed plant (unless fully dehydrated) would contain much more water than oil.

I no longer smoke pot, haven't for many years, but really want the plant legalized to provide so many benefits: paper pulp without cutting down trees, fibers for clothing, food made from seeds, building material (binder in adobe bricks), and the many health benefits (so I have read) of the essential oils. I also don't mind if people want to smoke it or eat it to get high. It is a lot less harmful to the human body, and society, than alcohol.

Dennis

slipknotted
8th February 2011, 16:43
i dont what to promot it but yes it does help i've had back surgery 10 years ago and to day i have 3 bulge disks and atear in another thc is used for many medical problem and it helped my back i cant use as i'm looking for work ( drug tests ) but the alternative would be take all kinds of pain pills which in veiw is very toxic for your liver and everyone is different for what works best and mucsel relaxers are better than pain pills from my many roads traveled with back pain also inversion tables are fantastic for back problems try a table cause it cut my back issues down 75%. and smoking it or eating is better than just oil.

shakti
13th February 2011, 11:50
I have bought Hemp Oil from www.essentiallyoils.co.uk. Excellent essential oils supplier without minimum order with free delivery in the UK, mostly used by professional aromatherapists.

scootiep
15th February 2011, 15:32
Kra

AlkaMyst thank you for creating this thread and for the effort you've put into it. It is well appreciated and i'm with you on this.

My pleasure..... :yo:

And thanks for your words of support, I really appreciate them!

9eagle9

I use all sorts plant and botanical oils for emotional, mental and physical healing so I see no reason why pot would be any different than say Franckinsense or Cinnamon bark oil. Cellular healing, plant essences correct the cellular function of any cell on a subconscious and physical level.

I have a goodish supply of oils and they are way expensive investment in the long term although they are hugely effective. It would be nice if there was one do all oil, if only on the easing the stress on the pocket book. I'd probably not give up my other oils, since I'm way too attached but I'm wild with curiosity how well they'd work in conjunction with hemp oil.

Don't you just love "OILS"?.........I know I'm a sucker for them. To answer your question, you can use hemp oil with just about any other oil to make it even more therapeutic (take a look at the recipe for the "Holy Anointing Oil" the one that it's talked about in the bible)


In today's measure:
(if 1 shekel = 11.5 grams; 1 hin = 6.5 liters)

5.75 kg (12.68 lbs) liquid myrrh
5.75 kg (12.68 lbs) cassia
2.875 kg (6.34 lbs) fragrant cinnamon
2.875 kg (6.34 lbs) cannabis flowers
6.5 liters (1.72 gallons) olive oil

***REMEMBER*** You can do as much or as little as you want, you just have to follow the measurements and use the correct proportions!

This oil was used in ancient times to cure just about any disease!!! :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Hiya AlkaMyst,

What a great thread you have come up with :) I am very interested in making Hemp oil and I have been discussing how hemp oil can cure many diseases with a religious friend, I was wondering where in the Bible it talks about the "Holy anointing Oil"? And where does it mention cannibis flowers as an ingredient?

With this information I can then show and talk about it with my friend thank you for any response.

Best regards,

Scott

AlkaMyst
15th February 2011, 15:39
Hi scootiep,

The recipe is in Exodus 30:22-25

check this out...............

http://www.thc-ministry.org/thelivingtorah.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoZtD-q4tk&feature=player_detailpage

jjl
15th February 2011, 15:43
it's important that we study and prepare for alternatives in healing. It will save more lives in the end

AlkaMyst
15th February 2011, 15:47
jjl


it's important that we study and prepare for alternatives in healing. It will save more lives in the end

Completely agree, I have been preparing and growing my own medicine for over a year now and have plenty stashed away in case anything goes down!!! :)

AlkaMyst

Icecold
15th February 2011, 16:21
On topic at Nimbin

I know a few of the blokes in this vid. My local patch. This entire town is an alternative community since around 1970. Beautiful country.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzoZ9jlARKU

AlkaMyst
15th February 2011, 16:33
Icecold

Awesome VIDEO....thanks for sharing. I see the guys from urban grower is there, he is the one that advertises Advanced Nutrients which I think is just too hyped up and way over priced.

I have been using something called Jacks Classic which is about $10 a bag and I get bigger yields with this stuff then I ever did with AN.....Jack's is an Old School growers secret!!!

Just my 2 cents!!! :)

AlkaMyst

IronicDestiny
15th February 2011, 21:27
Great thread and I'm there whole heartedly with it! I'd just like to say that smoking anything will never be good for your lungs. If you want a doctor to tell you it's ok to use, they will I promise... there are even pills available to those of you that are soooOooo afraid of THC, that isolate the cannibinoids which are the helpful part. Personally, I cannot advocate the smoking of it because our lungs are definately not meant for that type of use:P \

One important thing to note is that when I was younger I had a severe problem with asthma.. I went through a brief period of heavy use and voila! My asthma is pretty well cured, I would say it was perfect up until the time I started to smoke tobacco, but the effects of the other have never completely left me and with kicking the death stick out of my life, I have no doubt my asthma will be forever curbed! It IS A MIRACLE.

Koyaanisqatsi
15th February 2011, 21:37
Alcohol has been described as "a second-rate drug and a first-rate poison". I consider the same true of marijuana. What about all its adverse effects, particularly on short-term memory (http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm)? It might have some value in the treatment of cancer, but this doesn't justify its use as a recreational drug. (Disclaimer: I drink very little alcohol and have never smoked tobacco or pot.)

The real poisons are in YOUR medicine cabinet friend. Acetametiphen kills more people , annually, from overdose than cocaine. Keep taking your Tylenol when you get a headache, its only going to hurt you. I don't advocate drug usage, generally, but I can say that in my job I work with a lot of professional athlethes MANY of whom smoke marijuana... a lot. It doesn't seem to be poisoning their bodies, as they continue to break records (in certain cases Phelps) and experience long sporting careers. My advice to you SRT8THINKER, go camping next weekend and bring some mushrooms. Eat them , experience that experience and see how it does/doesn't change your worldview or how you see the universe. You will experience cosmic vibrations from a .....poison.

nearing
15th February 2011, 22:09
Just my contribution to this thread for those that require links to proof of THC's medical qualities:



Prevention of Alzheimer's Disease Pathology by Cannabinoids (http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/abstract/25/8/1904)
Cannabis Use Not Linked To So-Called "Amotivational Syndrome" (http://www.drugscience.org/Petition/C3F.html)
Killing bacteria with cannabis (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/147523.php)
Why Cannabis Stems Inflammation (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080720222549.htm)
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC20965/?tool=pmcentr)
Rheumatoid arthritis, Cannabis based medicine eases pain and suppresses disease (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/33376.php)
Marijuana Causes an Immediate Reversal of Exercise-induced Asthma and Lung Hyperinflation (http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/ww_en_db_study_show.php?s_id=57)
Marijuana Chemical Fights Hardened Arteries (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/22658.php)
Cancer Killer (http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking2/CancerKiller.html)
Cannabinoids in the treatment of cancer (http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/19442435/abstract/Canna%20binoids_in_the_treatment_of_cancer_)
Marijuana May Prevent Cancer, Not Cause It (http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=293&print=yes)
Heavy Long-Term Marijuana Use Does Not Impair Lung Function, Says New Study (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_media7.shtml)
Cannabis-based drugs could offer new hope for inflammatory bowel disease patients (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/28584.php)
Cannabinoids elicit antidepressant-like behavior and activate serotonergic neurons through the medial prefrontal cortex (http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/10/1460.htm)
Role seen for cannabis in helping to alleviate allergic skin disease (http://www.physorg.com/news106487623.html)
Marijuana Compound May Help Stop Diabetic Retinopathy (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060227184647.htm)
Cannabidiol reduces the development of diabetes in an animal study (http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=219#3)
Cannabinoid May Aid Fertility In Tobacco Smokers (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/58063.php)
Suppressive effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on herpes simplex virus infectivity in vitro (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1848937?dopt=Abstract)
Marijuana cures hiccups (http://cannabislink.ca/medical/hiccups.html)
Heavy cannabis use without long-term effect on global intelligence (http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=115#2)
Cannabidiol May be Effective in Preventing Bovine Spongiforme Enzephalopathy (Mad Cow Disease) (http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/articles/fr070916.htm)
Medical marijuana: a surprising solution to severe morning sickness (http://current.com/news/89174292_medical-marijuana-a-surprising-solution-to-severe-morning-sickness.htm)
Cannabinoids inhibit neurodegeneration in models of multiple sclerosis (http://current.com/news/89174292_medical-marijuana-a-surprising-solution-to-severe-morning-sickness.htm)
Cannabinoids as pharmacotherapies for neuropathic pain (http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/19789075/abstract/Canna)
Marijuana Protects Your Brain (http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/17437545/abstract/Delay)
Hempseed: Nature's Perfect Food? (http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/HT_Hempseed_0492.html)
Natural Pot-Like Compound Could Fight Obesity (http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=natural-pot-like-compound-could-fig-09-12-29)
Cannabis may prevent osteoporosis (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8199007.stm)
Cannabis Eases Post Traumatic Stress (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19228182?dopt=Abstract)
Cannabidiol as an antipsychotic (http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/ww_en_db_study_show.php?s_id=171)
Delta(9)-THC) prevents cerebral infarction (http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/ebm/record/17289082/abstract/Delta_)
THC effective in Tourette-Syndrome (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14521482?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f)

NinjaPhil
15th February 2011, 23:49
This is a really interesting topic, agree on the post about mushrooms... but then I grew up in the British countryside where such things grew quite naturally :P

I think there's a huge place for alternative medicines. Certainly in my experiences I've found that not taking prescribed medicine has helped me out. In one case actually saving my life, but I won't get into that here!

AlkaMyst
16th February 2011, 18:22
IronicDestiny

Great thread and I'm there whole heartedly with it! I'd just like to say that smoking anything will never be good for your lungs. If you want a doctor to tell you it's ok to use, they will I promise... there are even pills available to those of you that are soooOooo afraid of THC, that isolate the cannibinoids which are the helpful part. Personally, I cannot advocate the smoking of it because our lungs are definately not meant for that type of use :P

Thank you my friend, I very much so appreciate your comments and interest on this subject....I agree with you that smoking is not good for ones lungs, but I can't be sarcastic (not directed at you at all, just a figure of speech) at judging anyone for what they do as I smoke myself! It's a bad habit, but everyone has something that they do which they shouldn't be doing!....but also remember that no one has ever died from smoking cannabis, not even 1 case of lung cancer and cannabis. :)


One important thing to note is that when I was younger I had a severe problem with asthma.. I went through a brief period of heavy use and voila! My asthma is pretty well cured, I would say it was perfect up until the time I started to smoke tobacco, but the effects of the other have never completely left me and with kicking the death stick out of my life, I have no doubt my asthma will be forever curbed! It IS A MIRACLE.

I'm so glad to hear this, as I have mentioned this before here....my cousin has been a chronic asthmatic since he was very young and when he got older he decided to start smoking cannabis and viola!!!.....ASTHMA gone forever, never to return. It is a wonderful plant in my own opinion.

Koyaanisqatsi



Originally Posted by str8thinker View Post
Alcohol has been described as "a second-rate drug and a first-rate poison". I consider the same true of marijuana. What about all its adverse effects, particularly on short-term memory? It might have some value in the treatment of cancer, but this doesn't justify its use as a recreational drug. (Disclaimer: I drink very little alcohol and have never smoked tobacco or pot.)

The real poisons are in YOUR medicine cabinet friend. Acetametiphen kills more people , annually, from overdose than cocaine. Keep taking your Tylenol when you get a headache, its only going to hurt you. I don't advocate drug usage, generally, but I can say that in my job I work with a lot of professional athlethes MANY of whom smoke marijuana... a lot. It doesn't seem to be poisoning their bodies, as they continue to break records (in certain cases Phelps) and experience long sporting careers. My advice to you SRT8THINKER, go camping next weekend and bring some mushrooms. Eat them , experience that experience and see how it does/doesn't change your worldview or how you see the universe. You will experience cosmic vibrations from a .....poison.

I have to agree with you here 100% my friend....the real danger and the most feared killers are inside ones medicine cabinet and until people wake up to that fact, we are still going to have many people dying when they shouldn't be!

nearing

Just my contribution to this thread for those that require links to proof of THC's medical qualities:

Prevention of Alzheimer's Disease Pathology by Cannabinoids
Cannabis Use Not Linked To So-Called "Amotivational Syndrome"
Killing bacteria with cannabis
Why Cannabis Stems Inflammation
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
Rheumatoid arthritis, Cannabis based medicine eases pain and suppresses disease
Marijuana Causes an Immediate Reversal of Exercise-induced Asthma and Lung Hyperinflation
Marijuana Chemical Fights Hardened Arteries
Cancer Killer
Cannabinoids in the treatment of cancer
Marijuana May Prevent Cancer, Not Cause It
Heavy Long-Term Marijuana Use Does Not Impair Lung Function, Says New Study
Cannabis-based drugs could offer new hope for inflammatory bowel disease patients
Cannabinoids elicit antidepressant-like behavior and activate serotonergic neurons through the medial prefrontal cortex
Role seen for cannabis in helping to alleviate allergic skin disease
Marijuana Compound May Help Stop Diabetic Retinopathy
Cannabidiol reduces the development of diabetes in an animal study
Cannabinoid May Aid Fertility In Tobacco Smokers
Suppressive effect of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on herpes simplex virus infectivity in vitro
Marijuana cures hiccups
Heavy cannabis use without long-term effect on global intelligence
Cannabidiol May be Effective in Preventing Bovine Spongiforme Enzephalopathy (Mad Cow Disease)
Medical marijuana: a surprising solution to severe morning sickness
Cannabinoids inhibit neurodegeneration in models of multiple sclerosis
Cannabinoids as pharmacotherapies for neuropathic pain
Marijuana Protects Your Brain
Hempseed: Nature's Perfect Food?
Natural Pot-Like Compound Could Fight Obesity
Cannabis may prevent osteoporosis
Cannabis Eases Post Traumatic Stress
Cannabidiol as an antipsychotic
Delta(9)-THC) prevents cerebral infarction
THC effective in Tourette-Syndrome

Awesome list, thank you for adding this and remember that I really value yours and everyone's input on this....I sure hope that together we can wake some people up to the fact that cannabis is one of, if not the Most sacred plant on the planet.....no other plant has so many medicinal values for humans!!!

NinjaPhil

This is a really interesting topic, agree on the post about mushrooms... but then I grew up in the British countryside where such things grew quite naturally :P

I think there's a huge place for alternative medicines. Certainly in my experiences I've found that not taking prescribed medicine has helped me out. In one case actually saving my life, but I won't get into that here!

Thank you my dear friend.....I cold heartedly agree, I'm glad you are open minded about entheogens as they are they way to regain full consciousness in my own humbled opinion.....please take a look at this thread I also started a while back, I'm sure you'll find it interesting!!!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10923-New-Shamanic-Documentary-Metamorphosis-A-Journey-of-Tranformation

PS
I read in one of your posts on the Heather thread that you have a background in IT.....so do I, maybe we can chat about our common passion sometime in the near future!!!

Blessings to all,
AlkaMyst

9eagle9
16th February 2011, 18:43
Man...I wish you people lived near me...

:roll:


This is a really interesting topic, agree on the post about mushrooms... but then I grew up in the British countryside where such things grew quite naturally :P

I think there's a huge place for alternative medicines. Certainly in my experiences I've found that not taking prescribed medicine has helped me out. In one case actually saving my life, but I won't get into that here!

AlkaMyst
16th February 2011, 18:52
9eagle9

Man...I wish you people lived near me...

I really wished that was also true my dear friend....:(

But here goes to you virtually :drag:

muxfolder
16th February 2011, 21:02
I was brainwashed by the school system and always thought cannabis is bad for your health.. But then decided to try some and was blown away by it's effects. So I know now why it's illegal. Better poison people by keeping alcohol and cigarettes legal (among other sh*t of course).

The Mad spirtualist
16th February 2011, 21:09
I wonder if juicing the plant in a juicer would have benefits?

AlkaMyst
16th February 2011, 22:27
muxfolder

I was brainwashed by the school system and always thought cannabis is bad for your health.. But then decided to try some and was blown away by it's effects. So I know now why it's illegal. Better poison people by keeping alcohol and cigarettes legal (among other sh*t of course).

I agree with you....they really don't want people using this plant as it will make one question the teachers and those in authority. Opens up your mind to all possibilities and you start seeing the worlds for what it really is!

The Mad spirtualist

I wonder if juicing the plant in a juicer would have benefits?

Check this out!!!....Original article can be found here! (http://berkeleypatientscare.com/2010/09/18/juicing-raw-cannabis-for-greater-health/)




Juicing Raw Cannabis for Greater Health

http://berkeleypatientscare.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/canna-juice.jpg

If you find yourself in the doctors chair at the office of Dr. William Courtney, Willits, California you will be advised; we shouldn’t be smoking our marijuana, we should be eating it! After I read the story in the Washington Post, “Form of medical marijuana won’t get you high but is creating quite a buzz” written by Karl Vick, I decided to look into it more.

CBD (Cannabidiol), one of the main constituents of the cannabis plant has been proven medically to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety and nausea, as well as inhibit cancer cell growth. Recent studies have shown it to be an effective atypical anti-psychotic in treating schizophrenia. CBD also interferes with the amount of THC your brain processes, balancing the psychotropic effect of marijuana.

In my report, Sativex: Liquid medical marijuana, I talked about GW Phamacueticals, a British company who, with Japanese pharmaceuticals company Otsuka, have been granted permission by the New drug Administration and the FDA to enter into late stage trials here in the US for treatment of cancer pain and the side effects of chemotherapy with their cannabinoid based oral mouth spray, Sativex. The THC/CBD spray is already available to patients in the United Kingdom, Canada and Spain for the treatment of MS.

According to GW Pharma’s cultivation FAQ their scientists in the UK can precisely control the cannabinoid composition of the plant and they have bred an extremely CBD high strain. Both Dr. Courtney and some of his patients tried to find a similar strain available here in Northern California but to no avail. Recently, an emboldened lab, operating in the hope they can avoid DEA interference here in the Bay Area has begun testing plants for CBD, THC and pathogens like mold. Steep Hill Lab has found only one bankable strain, “Soma A+” that contained significantly more CBD than any other strain tested.

“What has happened is, almost all strains available in America through the black market are THC concentrates,” said Ethan Russo, a Seattle area physician who is senior medical adviser to GW. “The CBD in almost all cases has been bred out. The reason, cannabis in this country has been cultivated for its intoxicating effect.”

“It’s going to be a few years yet,” said Russo, who in the mid-’90s left his neurology practice in Montana, concerned by the toxic side effects of medicines he was prescribing. He returned from a sabbatical to Peru convinced that marijuana holds the greatest potential among medicinal plants.

“There’s a tendency to discount claims when something appears to be good for everything, but there’s a reason this is the case,” he said. “CBD works on receptors, and as it turns out, we have cannabinoids in our bodies, endogenous cannabinoids, that turn out to be very effective at regulating immune functions, nerve functions, bone functions.”

Russo: “The endogenous cannabinoid system acts as a modulator in fine-tuning a lot of these systems, and if something is deranged biochemically in a person’s body, it may well be that a cannabinoid system can bring things back into balance.”

On an important side note, laboratory studies on cannabinoids including CBD, by other companies and research schools has been largely hindered by federal restrictions on marijuana research.

The catch 22 is the continued classification of cannabis as a Schedule I drug. This impedes research on marijuana’s therapeutic value, thereby making it’s re-evaluation and re-scheduling through the normal drug approval process extremely unlikely. In fact, speaking to The New York Times in a January 19, 2010 article entitled, “Researchers Find Medical Study of Marijuana Discouraged,” NIDA spokeswoman Shirley Simson said: “As the National Institute on Drug Abuse, our focus is primarily on the negative consequences of marijuana use. We generally do not fund research focused on the potential beneficial medical effects of marijuana.”

In the perhaps $15 billion underground economy that flows from marijuana in California: No one knows for certain what they’re buying. “I can’t breed analytically,” said Jim Hill, a pot farmer in Mendocino’s Potter Valley. “I can only go by patient anecdote: ‘Yeah, that really worked for me.’ I can’t go by graph paper.” reports the Washington Post article.

Sixties activist Fred Gardner edits O’Shaughnessy’s, a quarterly devoted to medical marijuana and named for the physician who brought cannabis to the attention of European medicos. “I think people owe it to the industry, owe it to the people, to do something honestly medical,” Gardner said. “And CBD is honestly medical.”

CBD’s could finally be the link between medical marijuana and science.

Back to Dr. Courtney in Mendocino- maybe nowhere else in the country could a cannabis doctor advise growing 40 plants — enough for one juicing each day on the 45-day cycle required of the auto-flowering strain. What’s striking is the number of patients who truly do not want to get high. Juicing the fresh leaves instead of burning the dried plant matter does not deliver the same concentrate of THC (the psychoactive component) and recent research has shown that CBD works better consumed raw. The THC needs heat for activation and because of that, the raw leaves don’t produce a “high”. The doctor recommends that his patients mix the cannabis juice (1 part) with carrot juice (10 parts) to counteract the bitterness. Information I found online explained that any cannabis plant has the highest CBD at 70-90 days after sowing. After 90 days they rapidly produce more THC. He recommends drinking the juice three times a day.

Unfortunately for most of us, growing 40 plants on constant light cycles so you can provide yourself with enough fresh leaves for juicing will never be a viable option but it’s very interesting to see where this movement could go and what new cannabis products could come of it. Once labs can analyze the medicine, the cultivators can begin to use selective breeding techniques to develop strains that have a higher or more balanced CBD to THC ratio and then identify them as such.

Dr. William Courtney is pioneering the raw cannabis concept and for his own validation he explains, he only need look to his once seriously ill girlfriend who consumes the fresh juice daily and has made a recovery from several debilitating illness’ which are chronicled in her “New Settlement“ interview found on Dr. Courtney’s website, Leaves of Grass. His site includes links to several articles and studies regarding cannabinoid research and interviews with him on the topic so check it out for more information.

I’ve also been advised by a patient that is planning to grow medicine for fresh juicing, that a very CBD high strain was tested at Spannabis this year called “Cannatonic” and seeds may be available online. If anyone has any feedback on this topic or any experience with juicing cannabis, please comment.


Blessings,
AlkaMyst

scootiep
17th February 2011, 20:33
[QUOTE=AlkaMyst;140843]Hi scootiep,

The recipe is in Exodus 30:22-25

check this out...............

http://www.thc-ministry.org/thelivingtorah.jpg

Thanks AlkaMyst for the info, very much appreciated!! Ive just been on your other thread which has been closed "Coast II Coast" UFO's in Afghanistan and I feel you received some harsh comments, and just wanted to say your doing a brilliant and helpful job on Avalon, keep up the good work :)

Regards,

Scott

AlkaMyst
18th February 2011, 14:38
Thank you so much for your support scootiep, I truly appreciate it.

I had to get the thread closed after I asked people to get back on track as the thread was not about coast to coast am or George Noory, but no one wanted to listen, and I wouln't allow this people to come and bash my threads and not say anything good that would benefit the forums....I have a few more things that I like to say, but they can't be expressed here :lol:

Must people here are only following the "Charles" material and I quite frankly don't have the time to give to this guy.....there are way more important things happening right now than this Charles stuff, and I intend to share them with the community (That is, those who want to listen!).

Thanks you for your understanding my friend!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

irishspirit
24th February 2011, 18:37
A Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) proposal to reclassify the main psychoactive chemical in marijuana as a Schedule III substance would allow pharmaceutical companies to market the drug while still penalizing common recreational use, according to marijuana law reform advocates.


The main psychoactive chemical in marijuana, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), is currently a Schedule I substance within the US Controlled Substances Act, the most restrictive schedule with the greatest criminal penalties.
I
n November 2010, the DEA proposed (http://www.fdalawblog.net/fda_law_blog_hyman_phelps/2010/11/redefining-dronabinol-part-deux.html)reclassifying dronabinol, a synthetic THC, as a Schedule III substance, which would place it among substances such as hydrocodone and allow it to be dispensed with a written or oral prescription.




http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/23/dea-to-legalize-marijuana-only-for-big-pharma-group-claims/

Swami
24th February 2011, 18:51
Cool to see you posting again.....
Go for it..!

Arrowwind
24th February 2011, 19:27
my husband says "You know thats not going to be very satisfying to old dope smokers like me"

Gaia
24th February 2011, 19:55
"I used to smoke marijuana. But I'll tell you something: I would only smoke it in the late evening. Oh, occasionally the early evening, but usually the late evening - or the mid-evening. Just the early evening, midevening and late evening. Occasionally, early afternoon, early midafternoon, or perhaps the late-midafternoon. Oh, sometimes the early-mid-late-early morning. . . . But never at dusk." - Steve Martin

Nice to see you back Irishspirit

shybastid
24th February 2011, 19:58
I "heard" if you get a medical MJ card in California,you can legally have up to a half a pound and 6 plants.
AND? I "heard" they have DISPENCERIES that you can go into and BUY your medicine.
When you go into the dispenceries,they have oils,ointments, hash, hash oil,cookies, brownies,and jars of different strains of medicine and grades and qualities.

Also by ailment. Tired all the time? They have "peppey" medicine. Too "hyper"? medicine for slowwwwing you down. Not hungry from Chemo?

Well,they ALL make ya hungry.;)

Besides Cal,Arizona,Michigan,Colarodo(booming there) and new States every year are not just decriminalizing it,but making it legal with a prescription.
I see absolutly NO reason for the D.E.A. to get involved with big pharma.
But of course Big Pharma does.Money and regulation.
A bad side effect of self governing industries(pot) is you DON'T know what the growers have grown, or put in it,unless you grow your own.
Yes,you can identify the strain under an eyeloop. But you can NOT see if it has been sprayed with too many vitamins or "bud" enhancers at parts per million that may not be good for you. Also, mites can be a problem after the buds have sprouted.Now what? Are you using ladybugs to eat the mites? Or did you use DDT?
NOW it tastes like poison....NOW..are you spraying Lemon Pledge to camaflouge the DDT? That crap DOES happen...And? no regulations. Most dispenceries have a good relationship with their medicine growers.
Or they send out new growers medicine for independent lab testing to see how clean the medicine is.
Yep....you guessed.."Certified Organic"and Indie Lab tested...That is a good label on your medicine. I heard if that sign is in a dispenceries window...Some growers move on down the street.
ALL dispenceries should have to have Indie Labs test their medicine.
BTW.. I DO NOT smoke or grow. But this IS California and Tahoe.
We all kind of know someone in the bizz here in Nor. Cal...OK not ALL of us.

write4change
24th February 2011, 20:09
A heck of a lot of people in California have been hassled in these shops. and the shops themselves have been hassled. It also appears that how enforcement comes about is who you know. Of course the Rampart division of LAPD is adamantly apposed to having to justify their wealth beyond means of their salary. LAPD gets privacy extended to no one else. Wonder why it works that way?

shybastid
24th February 2011, 21:51
Agree write... Unfortunatly,I have heard about the strong arm robberies taking place in the Bay Area and in So. Cal. And I've also heard about the unscrupulous dispenceries that "claim" they were robbed in the middle of the nite of all the medicine they took on consigmenment from growers.

Driving law enforcement nuts.

Not to mention the poor farmer that loses his 'fronted" medicine.

Kind of good reasons to not grow commercially. It ain't that easy.. Plus new taxes. Plus how much do you claim as income?

These guys are legit and pay a LOT of taxes too. They actually put the 215 medicine prescription on the ballot.
http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/

They take their medicine REAL serious and are real activists all over North America,in every state, to change the laws.

Not me. I'm a wuss. I don't do well breaking or challenging laws for profit. Even legal laws. Heheheh
Too many variables.

Fire Dragon
10th March 2011, 12:54
I was in Holand and Barrett health store about 2 hours ago,, was looking for all sorts, then gazed a upon a bottle of "granoVita" Hemp oil , as i saw it, i remembered reading threads about it here and automatically bought a bottle, this is a 260ml bottle, and according to the lable organic virgin cold pressed, soil association organic standards...
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=2687&prodid=3519

ok, this is oil made from hempseed, not from the plant matter. Oh well, that'll teach me to think before i buy on impulse ;)

Krullenjongen
10th March 2011, 16:55
I was in Holand and Barrett health store about 2 hours ago,, was looking for all sorts, then gazed a upon a bottle of "granoVita" Hemp oil , as i saw it, i remembered reading threads about it here and automatically bought a bottle, this is a 260ml bottle, and according to the lable organic virgin cold pressed, soil association organic standards...
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=2687&prodid=3519

ok, this is oil made from hempseed, not from the plant matter. Oh well, that'll teach me to think before i buy on impulse ;)

I am from the Netherlands and as far as i know the hempoil described in de video "run from the cure" is not available in stores or Koffieshops (these are the dutch shops where you can get non alcoholic bevarages and buy and smoke weed)
So even tho you can legally have a few plants of your own, and it is allowed to buy and posses 5 grams of weed per person we can't buy the real hempoil in the shops and have to make it ourselves.

This is probably because it is more lucrative to sell the weed than to sell the oil. The oil would also be very expensive because in "run from the cure" he say he uses about a pound of dried weedbuds and the price of about a gram of weed in the koffieshop is euro 8,-. (+/- 11 USD)

ktlight
21st April 2011, 11:19
In this myth shattering, information packed documentary, learn from physicians and leading researchers about medicinal cannabis and its demonstrated effects on human health.

This game-changing movie presents the most comprehensive synopsis to date of the real science surrounding the world's most controversial plant.

Topics include: * What the consensus is from over 1500 scientific and medical trials * What conditions have been proven to benefit from medical marijuana * Its historical use as medicine dating back over 5300 years * Methods of delivery and their different advantages * Government sponsored studies intended to show Marijuana having negative effects that yielded the exact opposite results * Common myths about negative effects of Marijuana and what the research really says about these topics


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Md2WNqqxTQ

AlkaMyst
21st April 2011, 16:53
ktlight

Here's a thread that I started back in February about Cannabis.....you may find some real good info there!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11704-What-Big-Pharma-Doesn-t-Want-You-To-Know-About-CANNABIS-the-cure-for-Cancer!!!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

g.k.r
21st April 2011, 16:58
this is interesting too

http://www.qmul.ac.uk/qmul/news/newsrelease.php?news_id=175

ktlight
4th May 2011, 11:24
A desperate father whose son was suffering from a life-threatening brain tumour has revealed he gave him cannabis oil to ease his pain. And he has now apparently made a full recovery.

Cash Hyde, known as Cashy, was a perfectly healthy baby when he was born in June 2008 but became sick shortly before his second birthday.

At first he was misdiagnosed with mono before his parents Mike and Kalli, from Missoula in Montana, were given the devastating news he had a serious brain tumour.

The little boy had to have arduous chemotherapy treatment to reduce the growth, which had drastic side effects including seizures and a blood infection.

His distraught parents were repeatedly told he was likely to succumb to the illness because the condition was so bad.

After one bout of high-dose chemotherapy, Cash was so weak he could not life his head and too sick to eat any solid food for 40 days.

It was at this point that Mr Hyde decided to take action and go down the route of medical marijuana to try and help his young son.

Cash's doctors refused to even discuss the option but his father went and sought authorisation elsewhere and then secretly administered it through his son's feeding tube.

He also told doctors to stop giving Cash the cocktail of anti-nausea drugs he had been taking - although he never told them what he was doing.

Mr Hyde told KXLY that his son started looking better right away.

Mr Hyde said: 'He hadn't eaten a thing in 40 days - and, it was really incredible to watch him take a bite of a piece of cheese. It shows that he wants to live'.

He credits the cannabis oil with helping his son get through the chemo, and say Cash has now been declared cancer free by doctors.

The boy is now back and home and living the life of a typical young boy, playing with is older brother Colty.

Medical marijuana is legal in some states, including Montana, but its use for children is poorly understood and quite rate.

The US federal government does not recognise the legality of using the drug for medical reasons and frequently clashes with states over the issue.

Mr Hyde told KXLY: 'It's very controversial, it's very scary. But, there's nothing more scary than losing your child.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmviQBB5DHs

Teakai
4th May 2011, 23:25
Which is why it'll never be legal while the the coroporates are running things.

Which is just soooo disgusting.
And how many people are brainwashed to believe the propaganda that is pushed about it?

I had a 'debate' with a chemist recently about it. He was truly under the spell of the system. And there are millions more like him.

divine_moments_of_truth
6th May 2011, 17:53
Hemp oil was used 60-70 years ago in pharmacies, however, large medical companies can't put a patent on a plant so there's no money to be made.

Seikou-Kishi
6th May 2011, 18:03
The US federal government does not recognise the legality of using the drug for medical reasons and frequently clashes with states over the issue.

The US Constitution clearly delineates what are and what are not federal matters, yet the US Government (as opposed to state governments) continually grabs ever more power that of right, according to the Constitution, belongs to the state governments.

Lord Sidious
6th May 2011, 18:39
The US federal government does not recognise the legality of using the drug for medical reasons and frequently clashes with states over the issue.

The US Constitution clearly delineates what are and what are not federal matters, yet the US Government (as opposed to state governments) continually grabs ever more power that of right, according to the Constitution, belongs to the state governments.

They use the taxation power to do it and the state of emergency.

Seikou-Kishi
6th May 2011, 19:01
The US federal government does not recognise the legality of using the drug for medical reasons and frequently clashes with states over the issue.

The US Constitution clearly delineates what are and what are not federal matters, yet the US Government (as opposed to state governments) continually grabs ever more power that of right, according to the Constitution, belongs to the state governments.

They use the taxation power to do it and the state of emergency.

That may be how they do it, but it's not legitimate. Still, the states must be complicit or they wouldn't allow the dissolution of their sovereignty.

Also, I've just noticed you have the Palestinian flag, unless by a happy coincidence Coruscant shares that particular design :P

Providence
6th May 2011, 19:22
After one bout of high-dose chemotherapy, Cash was so weak he could not life his head and too sick to eat any solid food for 40 days.

It was at this point that Mr Hyde decided to take action and go down the route of medical marijuana to try and help his young son.

Cash's doctors refused to even discuss the option but his father went and sought authorisation elsewhere and then secretly administered it through his son's feeding tube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmviQBB5DHs

There are so many documented cases of people who have survived cancer because they chose an alternative therapy rather than to depend upon the only three acceptable forms of treatment (at least in the US) radiation, chemo-therapy, or surgery and yet is is so difficult to convince the masses that they are putting their confidence in a medical system that actually perpetuates the long-suffering and eventual death of a cancer patient for corporate and financial gain.

Lord Sidious
6th May 2011, 20:43
The US federal government does not recognise the legality of using the drug for medical reasons and frequently clashes with states over the issue.

The US Constitution clearly delineates what are and what are not federal matters, yet the US Government (as opposed to state governments) continually grabs ever more power that of right, according to the Constitution, belongs to the state governments.

They use the taxation power to do it and the state of emergency.

That may be how they do it, but it's not legitimate. Still, the states must be complicit or they wouldn't allow the dissolution of their sovereignty.

Also, I've just noticed you have the Palestinian flag, unless by a happy coincidence Coruscant shares that particular design :P

Of course the states are part of it, they want the federal $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, don't they?
Yeah, I have the palestinian flag up, out of sympathy for their plight.
I have had it since about the third day or so after I got here.

oceanz
6th May 2011, 21:28
A desperate father whose son was suffering from a life-threatening brain tumour has revealed he gave him cannabis oil to ease his pain. And he has now apparently made a full recovery.
Combine that with this thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19262-Oklahoma-lawmakers-approve-life-sentence-for-cooking-hashish&p=209383&highlight=hash#post209383

Now that really is life for a life.

daledo
6th May 2011, 22:56
RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI
"THC induces the Cancerous cell to make a fatty substance called ceramide, which prompts the cell to start devouring itself, noncancerous cells don't make ceramide when they come into contact with THC. The healthy cells don't die."
Biochemists Guillermo Velasco & Manuel Guzmán, Complutense University


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14570037
Cannabinoids: potential anticancer agents.
Guzmán M.
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology I, School of Biology, Complutense University, 28040 Madrid, Spain. mgp@bbm1.ucm.es

Abstract
Cannabinoids - the active components of Cannabis sativa and their derivatives - exert palliative effects in cancer patients by preventing nausea, vomiting and pain and by stimulating appetite. In addition, these compounds have been shown to inhibit the growth of tumour cells in culture and animal models by modulating key cell-signalling pathways. Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies. So, could cannabinoids be used to develop new anticancer therapies?

Cannabinoids reduce ErbB2-driven breast cancer progression through Akt inhibition. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20649976)

Cannabinoids--signal transduction and mode of action (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15549420)

Cannabinoids in the treatment of cancer. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442435)

Therapeutic potential of cannabinoid receptor ligands: current status. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16810344)

Synthetic cannabinoid receptor agonists inhibit tumor growth and metastasis of breast cancer. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19887554)


Cures to the World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjuTyHdX_Ao
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbx6GQh0sEc
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59v17AyTQak
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oroxpBMi_hI

Here is another link to this video: http://blip.tv/file/4450414

I was having a talk with a friend last night and we agreed on the point that there are too many uptight a holes on earth that need to smoke it to lighten up. If they were high they would be way too busy enjoying the world around them and quickly forget about their plans for world domination. It was called smoking a peace pipe for a reason. lol

Education on this subject is needed not more studies that are put out by the pharmaceutical companies to tell people it is bad for you. Hiding knowledge is something the elite have done throughout history. A cured patient is a lost patient in their eyes. When you take monetary gain out of the equation we will be a healthy society.

Seikou-Kishi
8th May 2011, 04:55
The US federal government does not recognise the legality of using the drug for medical reasons and frequently clashes with states over the issue.

The US Constitution clearly delineates what are and what are not federal matters, yet the US Government (as opposed to state governments) continually grabs ever more power that of right, according to the Constitution, belongs to the state governments.

They use the taxation power to do it and the state of emergency.

That may be how they do it, but it's not legitimate. Still, the states must be complicit or they wouldn't allow the dissolution of their sovereignty.

Also, I've just noticed you have the Palestinian flag, unless by a happy coincidence Coruscant shares that particular design :P

Of course the states are part of it, they want the federal $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, don't they?
Yeah, I have the palestinian flag up, out of sympathy for their plight.
I have had it since about the third day or so after I got here.

Yeah I don't like what's happening to the poor Palestinians. As a British Jew I feel doubly responsible for it, and while I wouldn't suffer another to assume guilt that wasn't their own, forgiveness is easier to give to others.

I don't understand that about Federal Dollars... All the money the Federal government has has come from citizens of the various states, excluding those who live in the District of Columbia, all US citizens are citizens of their constituent states and, considering the very nature of federalism, they are first and foremost citizens of their state, not the federation. Frankly, I think all forms of federalism are parasitism dressed up as something grandiose. The federal dollars that state governments clap like seals for comes from state citizens. It's like asking a tapeworm for nutrition lol.

Lord Sidious
8th May 2011, 09:51
Yeah I don't like what's happening to the poor Palestinians. As a British Jew I feel doubly responsible for it, and while I wouldn't suffer another to assume guilt that wasn't their own, forgiveness is easier to give to others.

Here we go with this guilt crap again. So you are a jew, and?
Did YOU sign the balfour declaration? Did YOU fire white phosphorus on civilians? Did YOU prevent any pregnant women from getting to hospital by stopping them at the checkpoint?
If the answer to these is no, then what the hell drugs are you on? You aren't guilty because of dirtbags, that is the point of my stop the madness thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16401-We-need-to-stop-this-madness-NOW%21
Just because people who are somehow associated to you by blood or religion do bad things doesn't extrapolate out that you are bad too.
There are many jews in the middle east that want nothing but peace with their neighbours, Ofra Haza was one, you know that.
Let go of your false guilt, that is what ''they'' want you to keep.
Gaddafi made a comment about how israel is only 15km wide at it's widest point. I never realised that myself, distance isn't something aussies are good with, it can take an hour+ to get from the northern parts of perth to the southern parts for example. I bring this up as I think he was right, the best solution is for ALL of palestine to be one state.
As long as we can sort out the extremists on both sides that is.
Both groups, the jews and the arabs should be able to live together, they have before and they should be able to again, but only after the extremists are dealt with.
The amount of effort to build israel since 1948 is amazing, but there are two things missing, security and peace.
Those are not possible the way things are, or with a two state solution.
For me, I wish both sides well and an end to the madness, whatever way they can do it best suited to them.


I don't understand that about Federal Dollars... All the money the Federal government has has come from citizens of the various states, excluding those who live in the District of Columbia, all US citizens are citizens of their constituent states and, considering the very nature of federalism, they are first and foremost citizens of their state, not the federation. Frankly, I think all forms of federalism are parasitism dressed up as something grandiose. The federal dollars that state governments clap like seals for comes from state citizens. It's like asking a tapeworm for nutrition lol.

I bet you don't know the truth of what you are saying.
Yes, the money comes from the people, they are the collateral backing the currency, the birth certificate being the ''birth'' of an artificial legal entity commonly known as the strawman that is used to securitise bonds that is then used to borrow into existence the federal reserve notes, commonly known as ''dollars'' that are in circulation.
And yes, it is parasitic.

siggy
8th May 2011, 16:45
For those that haven't already watched it, see 'RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story' on you tube. It covers the hemp oil cure story in canada, shows people who've been cured, shows how to make the oil, etc.

---edit----
Just noticed a thread further down, listing this vid. Doh!!!!!

ktlight
29th May 2011, 08:36
FYI:


As DEA raids and IRS harassment continue on state-approved medical marijuana, Big Pharma eyes the profitability of cannabis and prepares to muscle in, using its lobbyists and government connections to ensure a monopoly on legal sales of the drug.

In early April of 2011, two drug manufacturing giants, G.W. Pharmaceuticals and Novartis, announced they had formed an alliance to license and market GW's Sativex, a liquid cannabis drug. The drug is already available in Great Britain, as well as Canada and Spain. The licensing agreement with Novartis will enable sales to expand into markets in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. FDA Phase III trials are still being organized for Otsuka, GW's partner for licensing Sativex for the US market.

Unlike other cannaboids produced for recreational or medicinal use, Sativex is not a synthetic but an actual extract of the cannabis plant. It therefore lacks the side-effects of the synthetic drugs which merely attempt to replicate cannabis. Patients, primarily people diagnosed with MS or cancer, spray Sativex beneath their tongues.

GW claims that Sativex is formulated to provide the same health benefits that medical marijuana offers but without that drug's high. GW says that Sativex balances the psychoactive agent THC with cannabidiol (CBD), the chemical believed to be the source of medical marijuana's anti-nausea and cancer-cell-killing effects, in such a way as to eliminate any of the sensations associated with recreational marijuana. However, cannabis expert Dr. Lester Grinspoon, professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, points out that the issue of whether Sativex produces marijuana high depends on the size of the dosage.

One of GW's allies in its attempt to replace state-legalized whole-plant medical marijuana with its own chemical extract is Dr. Andrea Barthwell whose career includes consulting for GW, as well as stints as deputy drug czar under President George W. Bush and as president of the American Society for Addiction Medicine. Barthwell frames Big Pharma cannabis as best way to bring marijuana into medical usage: "The safety and advisability of any prescriptive medicine should depend on years of careful scientific scrutiny, not whims at the ballot box by individuals who lack the qualifications to make such decisions. Allowing cannabis to circumvent FDA approval sets a dangerous precedent and puts us on a slippery slope."

source to read more
http://www.naturalnews.com/032547_medical_marijuana_Big_Pharma.html

Fina
16th June 2011, 08:29
KYLX4 HD News programme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4lsvHMkWFg&feature=player_embedded#at=503


Wonderful story, lovely wee boy.

ouporblowup
16th June 2011, 16:13
anyone who thinks these people are in the wrong should consider how much worse for your children their average cold medicine is compared to cannabis oil


ooo

Flash
16th June 2011, 16:42
the link is not working anymore, it falls on a video about giving funds at an hospital for children.

MargueriteBee
16th June 2011, 21:14
It's working now, wonderful story.

seko
16th June 2011, 22:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4lsvHMkWFg&feature=player_embedded#at=503
KYLX4 HD News programme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4lsvHMkWFg&feature=player_embedded#at=503


Wonderful story, lovely wee boy.

Cjay
17th June 2011, 08:00
There are many thousands of cases like this that go unpublicised, largely because of the fear of prosecution, even when it is legal in the place where the medicine was administered. We need to publicise a lot more cases like this... and...

It's time to put some Washington DC balls in the vice and keep tightening it until the Feds drop their corrupt prohibition.

daledo
4th August 2011, 20:42
The DEA recognizes the importance of listening to science. That's why the DEA has registered seven research initiatives to continue researching the effects of smoked marijuana as medicine. For example, under one program established by the State of California, researchers are studying the potential use of marijuana and its ingredients on conditions such as multiple sclerosis and pain. At this time, however, neither the medical community nor the scientific community has found sufficient data to conclude that smoked marijuana is the best approach to dealing with these important medical issues.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html

By the above statement they are admitting that smoking marijuana is an approach to treating multiple sclerosis pain. No one said it had to be the best approach. Just like finding cures for diseases... always looking and collecting money but never finding.

Sarlic
4th August 2011, 21:13
Thanks for the info Daledo.

I think not only does Marijuana help with the pain associated with MS but may also suppress the attacks you get from the disease which would help many thousands live normal lives.
But knowing what we know about the drug companys i really doubt this one will get off the ground due to the fact that they wont like the idea of people being able to treat themself
with something they can grow in their back garden when the latest MS treatment costs £20.000 uk pounds per year. Drug companys wont like loseing money to help people

daledo
4th August 2011, 21:32
Patent number: 6630507
Filing date: Feb 2, 2001
Issue date: Oct 7, 2003
Application number: 9/674,028

Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases.

The Government even owns a patent on cannabinoids... patients WANT results and when I see things like the 2 I posted in this thread I get PI$$ED. They are saying in at least 2 goobernent websites that it helps diseases but they are looking for the best administration method. What a load of S#IT. Patients suffer because they are searching for the best way. Will they ever find the best way?... why don't we take what we can get until that day comes about. I guess that answer is a little to humane.

shadowstalker
25th August 2011, 23:26
I don't know if this had been posted before but here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Md2WNqqxTQ&feature=share

ThePythonicCow
25th August 2011, 23:41
I don't know if this had been posted before but here you go
Just three prior posts (:)):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17640-Mother-Nature-as-our-Chemotherapy&p=241844&highlight=8Md2WNqqxTQ#post241844
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22458-Marine-Fatty-Acids.-Stop-taking-fish-oils&p=240314&highlight=8Md2WNqqxTQ#post240314
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18887-Medical-Cannabis-and-Its-Impact-on-Human-Health-a-Cannabis-Documentary&p=201862&highlight=8Md2WNqqxTQ#post201862

sunnyrap
26th August 2011, 00:10
There is massive evidence of the healthful benefitis of cannabis and hemp. Washington, Jefferson and Franklin were among its many supporters

shadowstalker
26th August 2011, 01:00
ok just delete this one then thank you

WyoSeeker
31st August 2011, 18:37
http://bighealthreport.com/1407/government-study-proves-thc-from-cannabis-destroys-cancer-cells/

Medicinal marijuana oil made from cannabis buds, when ingested thrice daily, for two months, will destroy leukemia and cancer cells. Here is just one study which shows the results:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

The government study was done by Jia W, Hegde VL, Singh NP, Sisco D, Grant S, Nagarkatti M,Nagarkatti PS at the Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Medical College of Virginia Campus, Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, USA.

To quote: ”Cannabinoids including THC, induce apoptosis in leukemic cells” PMID: 16908594

seantimberwolf
31st August 2011, 18:48
This suppression has been going on for years, fact of the matter is marijuana is one of natures "something for everything" plants, its just amazing.
But i do believe there is nothing wrong with occasional smoking of the buds, fact is when you smoke cannabis your mind becomes more open, and makes you chill out and just relax to take stoke of what is important.
I'm not saying regular smoking is good for you it absolutely is not, but even the Rastafarian culture does not condone regular smoking and being constantly stoned.
They have sessions they call "reasoning's" when people sit round in a circle and talk about important issues while under the influence of cannabis.
Lets be honest how many of us have smoked a joint and had an amazing idea and gone wow, that's heavy, and i always remember it when i wake up the next day.
The fact of the plant being medicinal does not surprise me in the slightest, it is prescribed in many fields of medicine for a multitude of illnesses.
I think the problem is many "mainstream" medical sciences wont take the leap to see if these plants and nature is able to cure what we cannot.
There is no illness nature cant cure, its the nature of balance,
If an illness exists so must a cure!

Midnight Rambler
31st August 2011, 18:51
Here is a free documentary on the benefits of Marijuana

http://watch.montanapbs.org/video/1825223761

Holly Lindin
31st August 2011, 18:58
I did an episode about this on my online show "Earth Created", as cannabis is something I am VERY passionate about. (http://www.youtube.com/user/earthcreated)

"The Union (The Business Behind Getting High)" is a brilliant documentary as well, and I highly recommend "Medicinal Cannabis & Its Impact On Human Health" (http://www.marijuanamovie.org).

There has been great propaganda surrounding this intuitive plant, and I love that so many of us are breaking that programming! I myself fell for it for almost thirty years of my Life and was ANGRY at anybody who smoked cannabis. But, of course, I talk about it in my show (link above). :)

<3

conk
1st September 2011, 19:22
I saw a boat once named the Mary Wanna? The guy's girlfriend was named Mary and he also had a proclivity for the herb. Pretty cool.

TigaHawk
5th September 2011, 06:23
This is also why it'll never be legal :(

Watched a video on the tube about a guy whom grew it, turned it into oil and gave it to people whom he knew had cancer free of charge.

Gave a detailed walk thru on how to turn it into oil too. Pitty, as to do it you'd need to be located somewhere that you have alot of space. The smell it would make would be incredibly strong, and is a flammable gas too.

The cops would rock up on a regular basis and pull out all his plants and confiscate his stores. He never got charged tho, because he wasnt doing it for profit or personal gain or use. But still they arrive regularly to confiscate what he has then sell it to people for personal gains when it goes missing from the "evidance" room.

omg id love a job in an evidance room i swear :P

ktlight
11th October 2011, 08:20
"Clearing the Smoke, reveals how cannabis acts on the brain and in the body to treat nausea, pain, epilepsy and potentially even cancer.

Extensive interviews with patients, doctors, researchers and skeptics detail the promises and the limitations of medicinal cannabis. Even though the video has an American perspective, marijuana use is illegal throughout many countries of the world for reasons that are not clear.

This video is important because it mainly investigates the scientific basis underlying the medical benefits of marijuana use instead of focusing on the social, political and legal hysteria that have been attached to it.

The paper mentioned in this video, Marihuana Reconsidered, was published in book form. The author, Dr Lester Grinspoon, is the world's leading authority on marijuana. In this book, Dr Grinspoon examines — and debunks — many of the common misconceptions about marijuana."

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Heyoka_11
11th October 2011, 08:39
I couldn't help myself! :hippie: :drag:

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Mad Hatter
11th October 2011, 10:02
Nature provides, mankind divides, same ol same ol...

What would be interesting to know is how many people began there spiritual quest via this particular doorway. :p

When my workmates(I work in the health industry) ask when am I going to give up tobbaco, I always reply when they legalise mary jane...:fish2:

Red Skywalker
11th October 2011, 18:53
In case you missed this one:

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Here it is again! He says IT ALL in less then 3 minutes!

Many Thanks to Graham Hancock :thank_you2:

Phoenix1304
11th October 2011, 20:04
Hear! Hear! Well said Graham.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx2e8mf6B58

Lefty Dave
11th October 2011, 20:43
People don't talk about it much ...but cannabis is the very best sleep aid invented by Creator....and keeps those ugly nightmares at bay too...just sayin'..!!!

Camilo
11th October 2011, 20:45
Groovy man!

Little Ishta
11th October 2011, 21:09
It also helps with glaucoma.....

leavesoftrees
11th October 2011, 21:10
People don't talk about it much ...but cannabis is the very best sleep aid invented by Creator....and keeps those ugly nightmares at bay too...just sayin'..!!!

Cannabis is a stimulant. The sleep you have while under its effect will not be as beneficial as drug free sleep

Nightmares are a message that you need to look at something in your life

seko
11th October 2011, 21:17
This video is a great example of the good use of marihuana or marijuana or cannabis.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmviQBB5DHs

Lefty Dave
11th October 2011, 21:47
leavesoftrees...

Cannabis a stimulant ????? You ain't never been high have you ?

Camilo
11th October 2011, 22:10
Cannabis is good for everything...

Maia Gabrial
11th October 2011, 22:22
All I can say is that our corrupt leaders will not be in power much longer. They should be in prison for the things they've done. And all the crap they passed as laws should be dissolved.... After this, the others will fall next....
Not much longer now....

Lifebringer
11th October 2011, 23:14
Anything good for the people, they outlaw it, even when the PEOPLE vote for it. To have the choice not to have those pharmalabexperimentsideeffectual organ killing drugs, is against the law. So is planting a veggie for your family.

NOW America, when do we say ENOUGH?

Throw the bumbs out!!!

Aryslan
12th October 2011, 00:33
Actually cannabis is a depressant, like alcohol. Also, it wouldn't necessarily help keep you in a deep sleep (unless you ingest it instead of smoking it), but it would help you fall asleep! This is due to the CBD (cannabidiol) that is present along with the THC.

It is my firm belief that the reason it is (basically) illegal world-wide is because of the impact it would have on the textile and pharmaceutical industry. Hemp (thc-less cannabis) has been used for thousands of years for clothing, rope, paper (hemp paper is way stronger than anything you're used to using), and you can also cook with it! (hemp seed oil has a ton of omega3 fatty acid, I think it is) On the medicinal side (talking about the stuff w/thc now, not hemp), it can help with a variety of things, including migraines or upset stomach. Also, in a highly distilled form, it cure cancer (google: Run from the cure), help with ADD; it is untested in a public lab for such things, so we don't really know how many other ailments it could cure, or help cure. It should also be pointed out that cannabis overdose is basically impossible, and it is non-addictive physically.

Fun Fact: Before the 1900's, it was illegal to not have at least an acre of hemp growing in your field if you were a farmer.

firstlook
12th October 2011, 00:41
I also like how Bill Hicks put it: “If you don't think drugs have done good
things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them.”

:)

Mad Hatter
12th October 2011, 09:05
United States Government owns PATENT 6630507 (Cannabinoids as Antioxidants and Neuroprotectants)

and the logic of a patent on something that is illegal is...???

StateOfTheHeart
12th October 2011, 09:41
What would be interesting to know is how many people began there spiritual quest via this particular doorway. :p

I wonder the same.

And thanks for the link ktlight, I'm tempted to get my uncle on board. He has terrible chronic back pain from years of manual labour and a bad car accident - it'd be great if the green stuff could alleviate the pain, probably help him with stress too. Just gotta de-brainwash him first :ohwell:

ktlight
12th October 2011, 09:53
What would be interesting to know is how many people began there spiritual quest via this particular doorway. :p

I wonder the same.

And thanks for the link ktlight, I'm tempted to get my uncle on board. He has terrible chronic back pain from years of manual labour and a bad car accident - it'd be great if the green stuff could alleviate the pain, probably help him with stress too. Just gotta de-brainwash him first :ohwell:

Good luck and hopefully success.

Maia Gabrial
12th October 2011, 10:39
Anything good for the people, they outlaw it, even when the PEOPLE vote for it. To have the choice not to have those pharmalabexperimentsideeffectual organ killing drugs, is against the law. So is planting a veggie for your family.

NOW America, when do we say ENOUGH?

Throw the bumbs out!!!

You'd think that people would get angry with politicians that have done this. They've gone too far now. They step on the sovereign rights of people. The butt in where they don't have a right to.... Oh, it's all going to come to an end. They've run out of time and I mean ALL of them....

Alot of people ARE saying enough; just not enough of them are....
But even that's changing, so.... :clap2:

mahalall
12th October 2011, 12:45
Hi dudes,

Sorry to be a downer but remember the ones that fell apart and lost it?

Well cannabis is associated with a two fold increase in the later onset in schizophrenia.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis.pdf

some people can't handle those doors of perception being opened to quickly.

ktlight
12th October 2011, 13:44
Hi dudes,

Sorry to be a downer but remember the ones that fell apart and lost it?

Well cannabis is associated with a two fold increase in the later onset in schizophrenia.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis.pdf

some people can't handle those doors of perception being opened to quickly.

Should not be taken by young adults and children. Seems to do something to their brains.

seko
12th October 2011, 13:58
Hi dudes,

Sorry to be a downer but remember the ones that fell apart and lost it?

Well cannabis is associated with a two fold increase in the later onset in schizophrenia.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis.pdf

some people can't handle those doors of perception being opened to quickly.

People are related to psychosis and schizophrenia not cannabis, cannabis is just a plant it can't be responsible for anything that happens to some people that are tending to have those disorders. If it was the plant the problem, all of us would have the symptoms.

ktlight
12th October 2011, 14:56
Hi dudes,

Sorry to be a downer but remember the ones that fell apart and lost it?

Well cannabis is associated with a two fold increase in the later onset in schizophrenia.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis.pdf

some people can't handle those doors of perception being opened to quickly.

People are related to psychosis and schizophrenia not cannabis, cannabis is just a plant it can't be responsible for anything that happens to some people that are tending to have those disorders. If it was the plant the problem, all of us would have the symptoms.

I think the growth spurt that has to do with the final push of neurones connecting with each other is when this substance should not be ingested through the lungs or stomach. I think it acts as a trigger for mental problems otherwise, or so it seems.

TargeT
12th October 2011, 22:52
leavesoftrees...

Cannabis a stimulant ????? You ain't never been high have you ?

Sativa (rare) vrs Indica (retardedly common)..

have you tryed both; one is definately not like the other & you could easily confuse sativa with a stimulant; though not for any real physiological reasons, more mental.



Hi dudes,

Sorry to be a downer but remember the ones that fell apart and lost it?

Well cannabis is associated with a two fold increase in the later onset in schizophrenia.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis/CausalAssociationBetweenCannabisAndPsychosis.pdf

some people can't handle those doors of perception being opened to quickly.

Should not be taken by young adults and children. Seems to do something to their brains.

seems like BS to me...

sorta like riding a bike and having knee issues. then saying bikes cause knee issues.

This is called a Logical Falisy & is a sure sign of propiganda...

I've seen HUNDREDS of cases (individuals) that disprove this with my own eyes.

HORIZONS
12th October 2011, 23:05
What would be interesting to know is how many people began there spiritual quest via this particular doorway. :p

I wonder the same.

And thanks for the link ktlight, I'm tempted to get my uncle on board. He has terrible chronic back pain from years of manual labour and a bad car accident - it'd be great if the green stuff could alleviate the pain, probably help him with stress too. Just gotta de-brainwash him first :ohwell:

Helps back pain more than anything else - or any kind of pain for that matter - and it helps relieve stress and depression too -- This I know for fact! It also jump starts the right brain into working within this left-brained world that we live in today ;)

ktlight
13th October 2011, 07:16
I've seen HUNDREDS of cases (individuals) that disprove this with my own eyes.

I know two young people who are sufferers. Every time they light up, off they go. And it is not pleasant.

Ilie Pandia
13th October 2011, 15:09
Banning hemp has nothing to do with health. It's all about profits, energy and scarcity. I invite you to read my post on Wade's energy thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=331284&viewfull=1#post331284).

ktlight
21st November 2011, 11:59
"Make it viral! The world needs this now! A story of how cannabis extract oil cured David Triplett's cancer after he watched RUN FROM THE CURE: The Rick Simpson Story."

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ktlight
21st November 2011, 12:18
"The endocannabinoid system in our bodies regulate our cancer defense -- so it makes sense that cannabis works effectively in this area, and the science backs that up.

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For those who dispute the fact that cannabis can cure cancer, I would like to refer you to numerous studies (since 1974!) that show that cannabinoids kills cancer cells, shrink tumors, halts the spread of invasive carcinomas, and prevents occurrence. I don't know if you have the energy or the interest to follow up these links, but if you do value truth over hearsay and propaganda, then I would suggest you look at them. First you have to ask yourself: why don't you know about this? (Then you should get really, really angry).

Original Univ of Va study showing that THC halts lewis lung adenocarcinoma:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1159836&dopt=Citation

London study showing THC causes kills leukemia cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454482

University of Texas study showing the CB1 receptor (which is activated by cannabis) suppresses colorectal cancer tumor, when the receptor is lost cancer can occur.

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/68/15/6468

Univ of Southern Florida study showing that cannabis blocks cancer causing viruses:

http://news.bio-medicine.org/biology-news-2/Cannabis-may-help-combat-cancer-causing-herpes-viruses-115-1/

Harvard study showing cannabis cuts lung cancer growth in half:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

The British Journal of Cancer reports that cannabis treats prostate cancer

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Researchers at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute found that cannabis halts breast cancer.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/11/19/cannabis-cancer.html

A large population study of chronic cannabis smokers found that they had a REDUCED risk of head, neck and throat cancers when compared to those that did not use cannabis.

http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/early/2009/07/28/1940-6207.CAPR-09-0048.abstract

Spanish study showing that THC inhibits gliomas (brain cancer).

http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/68/6/1945

Want more links? Here is a much more comprehensive list compiled by a wonderful woman who calls herself Granny Storm Crow:

http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana/436257-granny-storm-crows-list-july-2009-a.html"

ktlight
31st December 2011, 11:07
"Please research Ottoman Warburg and High pH Diet also have a look at Vitamin D ,The American and Canadian Cancer society recommend taking at least(MINIMUM) 1000 IU of Vit. D per day, but research shows that 10 000 IU/Day is proper levels to fight off Cancer.

And please stay away from sugars as they lower your pH levels which create a perfect growing environment for tumors and cancer growth.


Warburg investigated the metabolism of tumors and the respiration of cells, particularly cancer cells, and in 1931 was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology for his "discovery of the nature and mode of action of the respiratory enzyme."[2] The award came after receiving 46 nominations over a period of nine years beginning in 1923, 13 of which were submitted in 1931, the year he won the prize.[3]

In 1944, Warburg was nominated for a second Nobel Prize in Physiology by Albert Szent-Györgyi, for his work on nicotinamide, the mechanism and enzymes involved in fermentation, and the discovery of flavine (in yellow enzymes).[4][5] It is reported by some sources that he was selected to receive the award that year but was prevented from receiving it by Adolf Hitler's regime, which had issued a decree in 1937 that forbade Germans from accepting Nobel Prizes."

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Dennis Leahy
6th January 2012, 04:52
This video blows my mind. I think most of us are aware by now that cannabis as a medicine has been suppressed. What's better than curing disease? Preventing disease!

The Power of RAW Cannabis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEP9FdIzT8
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEP9FdIzT8

Dennis

{edit} The original video posted was taken down by the user with no explanation. This edit replaces the original URL with one now working.

TargeT
6th January 2012, 05:12
Magical plant,, the only one i Know of that has a heat signature.

Dennis Leahy
6th January 2012, 20:39
Magical plant,, the only one i Know of that has a heat signature.
"hyperspectral cameras" being used to find cannabis plants... http://cannabisnews.com/news/5/thread5978.shtml

And the oppression, and suppression, ramps up.

Dennis

13th Warrior
6th January 2012, 20:43
Magical plant,, the only one i Know of that has a heat signature.


Skunk Cabbage would be another but, not as interesting since it's not illegal.

I don't want to derail this thread so, hears a link to an interesting story about skunk cabbage:

http://www.evolver.net/user/sean_donahue/blog/skunk_cabbage_dreams

STATIC
6th January 2012, 20:58
The suppression of cannabis is mostly the result of big money industries. The fact that it is illegal in most country's around the world has nothing to do with anyone caring if someone is getting high. It's only to protect there money and power within one of many thousands of products that would easily be replaced by hemp.

Rantaak
6th January 2012, 21:33
I'm fortunate enough to live in California where all of the good stuff grows (legally too). I've known people that underwent raw cannabis treatments and were met with vast success. There's a difference in the kind of cannabis we tend to smoke and the stuff that heals people though, and it pertains to the concentration of THC versus CBD. THC is what affects the mind, whereas CBD is what prevents disease (and cures it).

Dennis Leahy
6th January 2012, 21:46
... There's a difference in the kind of cannabis we tend to smoke and the stuff that heals people though, and it pertains to the concentration of THC versus CBD. THC is what affects the mind, whereas CBD is what prevents disease (and cures it).
Yes, probably the weed we used to call "headache weed" was low in THC and high in CBD - so it would have made a better nutritional supplement than an enjoyable smoke.

Dennis

TargeT
7th January 2012, 00:30
... There's a difference in the kind of cannabis we tend to smoke and the stuff that heals people though, and it pertains to the concentration of THC versus CBD. THC is what affects the mind, whereas CBD is what prevents disease (and cures it).
Yes, probably the weed we used to call "headache weed" was low in THC and high in CBD - so it would have made a better nutritional supplement than an enjoyable smoke.

Dennis

as a previous green thumb, I feel I have to mention this (in relation to Cannabis)

This plant is NEVER the same, thats why cloning is so popular, every time you polinate you get a new, unique strain.. I don't know of any other plants that act this way, this plant is amazing, resiliant, benificial, the whole plant is a gift in every way.

My favorite time of the day was when I was in my "room" breathing the air, enjoying the vibrant life... I loved my plants and they loved me right back :)

my appitite for experimentation however was my downfall.. stupid nosy neighbors... luckily alaska is close to california and nothing legally happend to me.

Seikou-Kishi
8th January 2012, 05:19
Trust you to find the good stuff, Dennis!

The thing is, these are good, decent and innocent people. I mean innocent in all its senses. Not only are they not hurting anybody, they're also a little naive; they think that all is required is for people to realise. What they don't realise is that its benefits are the very reason for its worldwide suppression. Let's hope that we live to see the day when cannabis is unrestricted and all people have access to it. Let's hope that day is not too far away. Let's hope, in addition, that access to cannabis becomes regarded as a fundamental human right along with other necessities such as clean, pure water and air. We can but dream.

Arrowwind
8th January 2012, 07:39
I'm fortunate enough to live in California where all of the good stuff grows (legally too). I've known people that underwent raw cannabis treatments and were met with vast success. There's a difference in the kind of cannabis we tend to smoke and the stuff that heals people though, and it pertains to the concentration of THC versus CBD. THC is what affects the mind, whereas CBD is what prevents disease (and cures it).

Thanks Dennis for that important video about raw cannibis. I didnt know about this aspect.

My one issue regarding the use that came up for me when the woman was speaking about her diseases and how it helped....

when you have disease and you take something, anything, and in this case cannabis, and things get better and you feel well that is great... but when you stop, as she had to at one point and the disease comes back then you can know that the medicine did not cure and was only masking the symptoms of imbalance and disease. That woman is not well. It is an illusion. Im glad that she found something to alleviate her pain but she is not cured and obviously the plant does not cure. She needs to perservere and really find a cure herself so that se relies on no medicine.

Dennis Leahy
8th January 2012, 09:28
she is not cured and obviously the plant does not cure.
Hi Arrowwind,

I see what you are saying that if you need to maintain a dosage of anything, that you are not "cured", but another way to look at this is to say that 8 glasses of water a day will never cure your thirst. Or, maybe a better example is that the condition/disease of scurvy comes back every time we do not have enough vitamin C. Likewise, rickets comes back every time we are deficient in vitamin D. We wouldn't dismiss the contributions towards health of vitamin C and D simply because a temporary dose of those vitamins do not permanently "cure" those conditions.

If you watch the movie "What If Cannabis Cured Cancer?", you'll get a good description of the cannabinoid receptors throughout our bodies. It is also true that our bodies produce cannabinoids, so could it be that through environmental conditions or genetic predisposition, this woman's body makes too little cannabinoids? Then, like the incurable thirst must be maintained daily with more water, her body needs the cannabinoids to attain a health state.

Note that Dr. Courtney, the research physician featured prominently in the above video, speaks of eating raw cannabis as being beneficial as a preventative, a supplement, a "dietary essential", saying that it is a "dietary essential that helps all 210 cell types function more effectively", rather than as a cure.

In addition, this particular video is highlighting the benefits of eating raw, unheated, cannabis as a nutritional supplement, but the (quietly suppressed) research studies and anecdotal evidence is piling up that the concentrated oils from plants high in THC do indeed cure cancer. So, I don't think it is correct to say the plant does not cure. I suspect that when we have unrestricted access to this plant (in its many, many genetic strains, varieties, and crosses of Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis), that it will be known far and wide as the number one curative plant as well as the number one disease preventative/supplemental plant.

In a bizarre way, the fact that we can get euphoria from smoking or heat-altering (cooking) and ingesting the THC in cannabis is providing the biggest excuse to governments to continue suppressing the medicinal and nutritional supplemental benefits of the plant. Australia and Canada have gotten around the suppression of some of the other great benefits of this incredibly versatile plant, (fiber, food, oil, etc.) by growing and harvesting varieties with close to zero THC.

Dennis

Seikou-Kishi
8th January 2012, 09:52
I see what you are saying that if you need to maintain a dosage of anything, that you are not "cured", but another way to look at this is to say that 8 glasses of water a day will never cure your thirst. Or, maybe a better example is that the condition/disease of scurvy comes back every time we do not have enough vitamin C. Likewise, rickets comes back every time we are deficient in vitamin D. We wouldn't dismiss the contributions towards health of vitamin C and D simply because a temporary dose of those vitamins do not permanently "cure" those conditions.

Impeccable logic :D

When I woke up, I thought sleeping had cured my tiredness, but it came back half a day later. Can you believe it? :D

Arrowwind
8th January 2012, 19:30
she is not cured and obviously the plant does not cure.
Hi Arrowwind,

I see what you are saying that if you need to maintain a dosage of anything, that you are not "cured", but another way to look at this is to say that 8 glasses of water a day will never cure your thirst. Or, maybe a better example is that the condition/disease of scurvy comes back every time we do not have enough vitamin C. Likewise, rickets comes back every time we are deficient in vitamin D. We wouldn't dismiss the contributions towards health of vitamin C and D simply because a temporary dose of those vitamins do not permanently "cure" those conditions.



This woman has had how many surgeries? 20 or something? how many months of antibiotics? how many resistant pathogens in her body that she has had a hard time keeping in check. How many infections? She has become fully derranged by conventional medicine, with allergies and rashes and on and on ad nausem. What initatied this disese process in her? could it have been trauma that caused her broken spine in 3 places? and resultant surgeries? could it have been childhood vaccination? could it have been heavy metal poisoning? could it be candida which she likely has due to all the antibiotics she has had, a profound amount really. Could it be some other mysterious mycoplasma? how is her digestion? does she eat well? is she mineral deficient? any or all of these combined will make for a very unhealthy person. ...

I am sure of one thing, she does not have her diseases due to a cannabis deficiency!

But trauma, heavy metals, vacciantion, poor diet, use of antibiotics and steroids, other drugs, repeated surgeries, over growth of and resistant bacteria. Her terrain is aggresous and foul and she cannot stand up on her own without a repressive (not curative medicine)
Dont you see?

If cannabis is what helps her to feel well thats fine with me. But clearly when her illness returns it indicates that cannabis is no more than a bandaide to a disease process that continues in her body and maybe such repression is good enough for her but certainly not for me and mine.

I am not saying that cannabis is not helpful to her. But cannabis has never shown to be an essential nutrient that must be consumed for health. Cannabis may fit into some receptor sites in the body but so do a lot of other things. Consider valerian and hops and opium. This is why herbal medicine in general works. It can interface with the body in a very profound way. For example, chamomile can cure some stress issues, some headaches, some rashes because it interfaces with that individuals body. But chamomile is not essential for good health. It is a medicine and a mediicne only. Curcumin reduces inflammation and may have cancer prevenative properties but it is not an essential nutrient. Billions of people live just fine without these herbs and without cannabis,, but deplete any one of these billions of people of vitamin c or d for sufficient time and you will have disease and death.

To say that cannabis could be essential like vitamim c makes no sense and clearly is is shooting in the dark to try to comprehend why it is helpful to her and not curative.

Dennis Leahy
9th January 2012, 06:14
Yes, this woman has an absolutely awful medical history.

My favorite protagonist in this story, Dr. Courtney, may have overstepped by using the word "essential" in the sentence "dietary essential that helps all 210 cell types function more effectively", but a substance that literally helps all 210 cell types function more effectively could certainly be called "amazing" or "miraculous." I am with you, thinking that "essential" implies "required", and so may not have been the correct word to use in that sentence. But, I'm guessing that for a staid researcher to find something believed to help 100% of all cell types to function more effectively, he is probably astounded and overjoyed (so I'll give him a break if it was from enthusiasm.)

Though the human body does normally manufacture its own cannabinoids, I have not seen a study where a human body that does not manufacture enough or does not manufacture any cannabinoids has been shown to have a cause-and-effect relationship to disease, like vitamin D and rickets has. I do not know how frequently a human is found to have a body that produces zero cannabinoids, nor do I know what diseases to expect would show up in that body with zero cannabinoids (since it appears that most all human bodies do produce some.) So, I cannot say "I am sure of one thing, she does not have her diseases due to a cannabi[noid] deficiency!", because I don't know if that is true.

I'd also throw in the possibility of a mind-body synergy when she gets the cannabis, as she could be convinced it will work and therefore "programs" her body differently (much more optimally) when she knows she has raw cannabis in her diet. But, you have to admit, with her terrible list of symptoms, and such a level of symptomatic relief with the raw cannabis, this is either a fantastic placebo for this patient or a fantastic nutrient. Because I suspect that she probably believed in at least some of the many different (40?) pills she was about to take, yet never reached the point where she felt great, that this is not a psychosomatic alleviation of symptoms, but rather an extreme example of how marvelous it is when you take a natural supplement that literally "helps all 210 cell types function more effectively."

Besides the possibly overzealous use of the word "essential" - which again, I am not sure is untrue, since our bodies normally make this substance the same way we normally make vitamin D - wouldn't you admit that this extreme case presented by this woman ingesting raw cannabis and reaching an elusive level of health is intriguing? I'd love to find out what a shot-glass of this green elixir would do for some of the chronic symptoms I feel, and that my loved ones feel. When I can legally obtain it, I'll find out.

Dennis

{edit} I edited this sentence:
Though the human body does normally manufacture its own cannabinoids, I have not seen a study where a human body that does not manufacture enough or does not manufacture any cannabinoids has been shown to have a cause-and-effect relationship to disease, like vitamin C and scurvy has.

and changed it to

Though the human body does normally manufacture its own cannabinoids, I have not seen a study where a human body that does not manufacture enough or does not manufacture any cannabinoids has been shown to have a cause-and-effect relationship to disease, like vitamin D and rickets has.

because the human body does not manufacture vitamin C, but we do manufacture vitamin D - so it is a more apt example.

Logan
9th January 2012, 14:36
Just more confirmation that cannabis is completely awesome. :)

Rantaak
10th January 2012, 01:34
I'm fortunate enough to live in California where all of the good stuff grows (legally too). I've known people that underwent raw cannabis treatments and were met with vast success. There's a difference in the kind of cannabis we tend to smoke and the stuff that heals people though, and it pertains to the concentration of THC versus CBD. THC is what affects the mind, whereas CBD is what prevents disease (and cures it).

Thanks Dennis for that important video about raw cannibis. I didnt know about this aspect.

My one issue regarding the use that came up for me when the woman was speaking about her diseases and how it helped....

when you have disease and you take something, anything, and in this case cannabis, and things get better and you feel well that is great... but when you stop, as she had to at one point and the disease comes back then you can know that the medicine did not cure and was only masking the symptoms of imbalance and disease. That woman is not well. It is an illusion. Im glad that she found something to alleviate her pain but she is not cured and obviously the plant does not cure. She needs to perservere and really find a cure herself so that se relies on no medicine.

Well if you want a permanent cure with one-time treatment then you could look into Ibogaine...

Arrowwind
10th January 2012, 07:31
this is not a psychosomatic alleviation of symptoms, but rather an extreme example of how marvelous it is when you take a natural supplement that literally "helps all 210 cell types function more effectively."

Besides the possibly overzealous use of the word "essential" - which again, I am not sure is untrue, since our bodies normally make this substance the same way we normally make vitamin D - wouldn't you admit that this extreme case presented by this woman ingesting raw cannabis and reaching an elusive level of health is intriguing? I'd love to find out what a shot-glass of this green elixir would do for some of the chronic symptoms I feel, and that my loved ones feel. When I can legally obtain it, I'll find out.

Dennis

{edit} I edited this sentence:
Though the human body does normally manufacture its own cannabinoids, I have not seen a study where a human body that does not manufacture enough or does not manufacture any cannabinoids has been shown to have a cause-and-effect relationship to disease, like vitamin C and scurvy has.

and changed it to

Though the human body does normally manufacture its own cannabinoids, I have not seen a study where a human body that does not manufacture enough or does not manufacture any cannabinoids has been shown to have a cause-and-effect relationship to disease, like vitamin D and rickets has.

because the human body does not manufacture vitamin C, but we do manufacture vitamin D - so it is a more apt example.

Thanks Dennis. I didnt understand that the body produced cannaboids. Thanks for the education. Certainly then, all the diseases and traum she has had could potentially have damaged the system that produces cannaboids, or interrupts it in some kind of way so that she can't make her own any longer. That would be an interesting piece of research to determine.

solosthere
10th January 2012, 14:50
Another very interesting plant that has also been outlawed and suppressed is the Iboga plant of east Africa. It has been used by the Bitiwi tribe for thousands of yrs and has been described as the plant from the garden of eden and is the tree of knowledge. It has some extremly interesting effect. It is considered psychoactive but not like anything else out there. It also has the effect of being
anti-addictive in that when given to a person that is addicted to opiates the person experiences no withdrawals. Also due to its psychoactive nature, which gives a person a picture show of thier lives, they can compress years of counseling into a few days and those that do the treatment say they are showen what direction they are to take in thier lives. It has been knowen to have these effect since the 50's and is used extensively outside the US but here it is a class 4 drug. Grouped in with LSD and the like as having no medical use. The really amazing thing is that research has show that with herion addicts that go through an Iboga treatment 90% remain clean after 1 year compared to 5% that remain clean with current methods (methadone, seboxin, cold turkey). Not only do they remain drug free but they find direction in their lives. This drug has not been legalized in the US because the patent is about to be up and there is no money to be made. Why would a company make a product that is used 1 time when they can get people addicted to something that they have to take everyday? Just another way for the wealthy to make more money!!!!!!! It is the closest thing we know of the can be called a cure for addiction and yet remains illegal in the US!!!!! HOW SAD!!!!!

WhiteFeather
10th January 2012, 14:56
Great Thread Dennis, Love Your Post's Bro. Wanishi. I use raw ground up cannabis on pizza, it tastes like oregano. LoL

Kindred
10th January 2012, 15:00
I've sent this video to a dear friend who is being treated for breast cancer. She's been 'in the system', but I'm trying to make her 'see the light' in getting away from the medical-industrial mindset. She 'knows', but is fearful and unwilling to let go of that paradigm. I hope the best for her, and do what I can.

In Unity and Peace

risveglio
11th January 2012, 14:23
I shared this video but it has been removed. Anyone know of another url?

Dennis Leahy
11th January 2012, 15:04
I shared this video but it has been removed. Anyone know of another url?
I found another copy on YouTube. It could be that this is being taken from a larger documentary, and the poster is not properly citing the original?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgEP9FdIzT8

Dennis

p.s. I will edit the original post to also use this working URL, but wanted to make note of it so that people know why it didn't work and now does work.

Arrowwind
14th January 2012, 16:17
I just watched a youtube documentary of a skin cancer cured with topical applications of Cannabis oil. It was very nice. Not messy as with escharotics...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm0Jq9bj98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm0Jq9bj98)

ktlight
28th February 2012, 09:24
"This is a must-watch video featuring some of the top researchers on the healing effects of Cannabis (Marijuana) in it's raw form, eaten or juiced.

Eating raw cannabis as medicine, dietary essential: new research

Cannabis is a dietary essential that helps all cell types function more effectively.

Is a medicine: anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, probably has some direct activity against cancerous cells.

This plant can do phenomenal things, but not if [you aren't taking a high enough dose].

Cannabis is the most important vegetable in the world."

qgEP9FdIzT8

eileenrose
28th February 2012, 09:26
I thought putting in a solution with fat as a base increased its effectiveness (verse raw or juicing). (i'll watch the video when I can....can't at the moment).

Cjay
28th February 2012, 12:09
This is NOT the same video as the one above in the OP. I recommend watching both.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa0nLdVJiIg

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa0nLdVJiIg

Cjay
28th February 2012, 12:16
I thought putting in a solution with fat as a base increased its effectiveness (verse raw or juicing). (i'll watch the video when I can....can't at the moment).

Perhaps you are thinking of the cannabinols (the oils found in greatest concentration in the female flowers) which are soluble in fat. The videos here discuss a very different use of the plant. You really need to watch these videos to understand the difference.

onawah
20th October 2012, 19:11
This doctor is a former student of my late mentor, Dr. Christopher Hills, and I think he's the real deal. There is a little bit of advertisement in this article from his blog, but it's hard to separate that out, so I just left it in. The info is the focus.

Buy It Now, It’s Legal – Medical Marijuana Cannabidiol (CBD from Industrial Hemp)
by Mark Sircus on 20 October 2012


One of the wars against the war on drugs has been won and that means Americans everywhere now have access to medical marijuana in this government-approved form. The government had to approve it because it has virtually no THC, that particular cannibinoid that gets people high. So believe me, the FDA, DEA and FTC have all yielded and it will show up at your door if you order the newest/oldest medicine on the planet.

Medical Marijuana Inc., Dixie Elixirs and Edibles Brand will be featured on 60 Minutes “Rocky Mountain High” segment on Sunday, October 21. Denver’s thriving medical marijuana industry will be the primary focus of the show’s segment by Steve Kroft. 60 Minutes, the most successful television broadcast in U.S. history, draws an average of over 13 million viewers a week.

That is a lot of people to watch what is good news for the entire medical establishment as well as the alternative medical community. It is the best news for millions who are sick and on many pharmaceutical drugs that Cannabidiol (CBD) will replace safely and naturally. Bottom line, CBD is going to make a whole lot of people feel better about 10 minutes after they drop some Cannabidiol under their tongues.

Now we all have access to pharmaceutical-grade natural medicine from a company that is entirely outside the medical industrial complex. Just do not order this product, cannabidiol, to get high for it will not take you there. But if you need a potent medicine in your fight against chronic disease, cannabinoid medicine will deliver the goods. In the fight against cancer, neurological diseases and diabetes, one would actually be crazy to do it without CBD.

CBD turns the debate about illicit-drugs-as-medicine on its head—medical marijuana that does not get the user high. One woman with Parkinson’s disease, who Dr. Michael Callton treats, told him she ingests an oral marijuana candy, a medicine that doesn’t make her intoxicated in order to calm her tremors enough so she can sleep. “She doesn’t want to get high,” said Dr. Callton (also Michigan Republican Representative). “She just wants to sleep.”

I am telling my readers to really look at this issue and perhaps to buy some stock in the company. This potent CBD nutraceutical (that can compete with any pharmaceutical on the market) is going to do very well so I would recommend buying stock in this company. It is only about ten cents a share last time I looked so there is a lot of head room and the stock has been moving. Just wait till after the 60 Minutes show and we will all see where this will go.

I have a client in Austrailia who has heavy neurological damage and discomfort and is on the Natural Allopathic Medicine protocol. He just started on DixieX Dew Drops and he is doing very well. I have been holding off on sharing about DixieX for the launch of DrSircus.com, which should happen sometime next week.
Anti-Inflammatory Cancer Therapy

The truth is there is no “overnight fix” for chronic inflammation. That said I take that back and say there is. The quickest fix for inflammation, the one that works most instantly is sodium bicarbonate. So many doctors and books talk about inflammation today but they fail to mention the mighty muscleman of the anti-inflammation world. Right behind this heavyweight is magnesium chloride, which is the anti-inflammatory that too many doctors are still forgetting to mention and use. It literally controls inflammation because a deficiency in magnesium is one of the basic root causes of inflammation, so its replenishment is the logical way to put out inflammatory fires.

If all this medical forgetting is not enough ineptitude, realize that the newest, strongest and possibly greatest anti-inflammatory on the block (CBD) just went legal and now exists and is available in topical and oral forms. People who have used medical marijuana know this because it gives so much quick pain relief. Now we have it in a perfect form!

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This is a picture of a CBD topical cream product.

These three substances, when used together, change the world of medicine and certainly the world of anti-inflammatory medicine. I am already racing at warp speed to finish Anti-Inflammatory Cancer Therapy, which I will roll out as soon as we publish Treatment Essentials. Both of these works introduce my completed protocol.

I have just finished my research and I am astounded by the work I have done in the last three months, which has taken my understanding of medicine and health to new heights. I will be sharing my discoveries in the next few weeks.
Conclusion

CBD spells bad news for the pharmaceutical industry because, when combined with other strong medicinals like magnesium, sodium bicarbonate and iodine, people can treat themselves more safely and effectively than they can be treated in a doctor’s office.

This essay just touches upon the reasons why you should have CBD in your medicine cabinet. Alone or in combination with other substances, it has a powerful effect that should not be ignored in our struggle against acute and chronic diseases. For more information and many other reasons, please read my book:

http://blog.imva.info/medicine/buy-legal-medical-marijuana-cannabidiol-cbd-industrial-hemp/