Pope Benny and his Horned Buddies

[Dennis Leahy]

Does anyone know for sure who the two horned creatures are that are depicted on the pope's "stole?"

By the way, I wonder if there was ever a more evil looking pope. This one looks like he drinks the blood of endangered species while fornicating with corpses.

http://www.LeahyGuitars.com/Imagez/Two/Pope-a-Dope.jpg


http://www.LeahyGuitars.com/Imagez/Two/ScaryPope-a-Dope.jpg

I guess when you wear a red dress, you wear red contact lenses too. Wow, is this guy creepy!

Dennis

{edit to add: Solved. See post #25 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53602-Pope-Benny-and-his-Horned-Buddies&p=606188&viewfull=1#post606188) - but keep discussing, as you wish or wherever the thread evolves.}

[lookbeyond]

Yes i thought this when i first saw him and the more i see him the more prevalent it becomes

[johnf]

I'm pretty sure his skin has been photo shopped there. In other pictures he looks old and everything but not quite that bad. I saw this pic of him last week or so and wondered about the horned dood myself, not a clue, but still would like to know.

[lookbeyond]

Its the eyes

[Dennis Leahy]

Here's another image. If this is the same stole, then one of the images WAS Photoshopped.

http://www.charlesayoub.com/news/public/uploads/images/55306422710418704.jpg

Dennis

[markpierre]

Well I think those might be his parents Dennis.

Not the same stole.

[lookbeyond]

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[ThePythonicCow]

Here's another image. If this is the same stole, then one of the images WAS Photoshopped.
And yet another image at this link http://solzemli.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/popebenedictxvi.jpg from which I extracted just the face:

http://thepythoniccow.us/pope_benedict.png

[modwiz]

Does anyone know for sure who the two horned creatures are that are depicted on the pope's "stole?"

Dennis

Poker buddies?

[Debra]

This is fun. Dennis goes after the Vatican. Those are creepy photos, they almost belong on Houman's thread. I would say they indicate the two faces of power and one is most definitely of the horny kind, so the truth is in your face.

You got me extra intrigued though, so I decided to look up who is Benny's stylist and found out it is Gammarelli. Is this the REAL power behind the Vatican ?


A Gammarelli store is the most exquisite one on Via dei Cestari near the Pantheon. This street is like Via Montenapoleone for Vatican priests. It sells pink gloves with golden embroidery and luxury fabric for bishops and cardinals..

But, and this is more important to note: his red shoes are by Prada http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/10-04-2007/89452-pope_benedict-0/
It's official.

[Slorri]

It's not all that clever to choose a pope after his good looks.

[markpierre]

Thanks Paul. In that pic he looks kinda sweet. Like my crossdressing grampa.

[bennycog]

I am in no way religious, in the way that catholics or others, that define life as the miracle from god and that your steadfast on the way to hell for rock music..
Like most, i understand the concept of love and love thy neighbour, rings very true...

Religion i feel, is made so you cannot falter the love it tells you that you should have..
And it is also made, for believers to feel that at any moment they step out of line that the wrath is upon them..
Religion is society,,, because most feel the same way about thier employer do they not?

For religion to change society would need to be the forerunner in that race..



oh and apart from the OP i hope to look as good at 85


http://www.savetubevideo.com/?v=qpt8BLLkAWA

just a puppet of the vatican..

[modwiz]

Does anyone know for sure who the two horned creatures are that are depicted on the pope's "stole?"

Dennis

No more guessing. They're The Jets. Ya know, B-B-B-Benny and the Jets. :note:

Yeah, that's the ticket. :thumb:

[Etherios]

Well you all have to considered the use of face makeup :-P

[Fred Steeves]

And now for our morning serving of weirdness, compliments of the Vatican. I think I actually saw the old fella with a little gleam in his eye...

-rbxov7CVi8

[Maia Gabrial]

All that gold, you'd think the man would get his teeth fixed....

[Katyani]

Dennis, I think the horned buddies have also been photoshopped. The horns may simply be partial halos : )

[RUSirius]

And now for our morning serving of weirdness, compliments of the Vatican. I think I actually saw the old fella with a little gleam in his eye...

-rbxov7CVi8

I could think of so many fun things to say about this one. LOL!

[westhill]

Hi Dennis...
Sure is hard to find any info but I think one on his right shoulder could be Pan also known as Dionysus (solar deities).
Then you have the noon goddess... http://creativityandhealing-kalina.blogspot.com/2011/12/moon-goddess-and-god.html
SELENE was the Titan goddess of the moon. In Roman mythology, the moon goddess is called Luna, Latin for "moon".
In later times Selene was identified with Artemis (Diana), and the worship of the two became amalgamated. She rode,
like her brother Helios, across the heavens in a chariot drawn by two white horses, cows, or mules.

So does he have the sun on his right and the moon on his left?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/PanandDaphnis.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Luna_statue.jpg/360px-Luna_statue.jpg

[Wind]

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away....

http://memecrunch.com/meme/8C2R/emperor-palpatine-pope-benedict/image.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LUm1w-SzsiM/TVgXHHN-FQI/AAAAAAAAAbo/oAaR4o0tqOY/s1600/emperor_pope-atine.jpg

[Zelig]

I don't think it reflects very positively on the character of Avalonians that the pope is being made fun of based on his appearance (particularly when photoshopped) or his alleged sexual predilections. I don't care at all whether he finds males or females attractive, or if his eyes are red, or his teeth imperfect - it is his actions that I am concerned about. It may feel good to gang up on him, photoshop him into a sinister-looking creep with lightning shooting from his fingers, but it lowers us all to a level that renders our legitimate concerns less credible.

edit: This sounds preachier than I intended. This is just something that occurred to me and applies to me too.

[johnf]

Hi Dennis...
Sure is hard to find any info but I think one on his right shoulder could be Pan also known as Dionysus (solar deities).
Then you have the noon goddess... http://creativityandhealing-kalina.blogspot.com/2011/12/moon-goddess-and-god.html
SELENE was the Titan goddess of the moon. In Roman mythology, the moon goddess is called Luna, Latin for "moon".
In later times Selene was identified with Artemis (Diana), and the worship of the two became amalgamated. She rode,
like her brother Helios, across the heavens in a chariot drawn by two white horses, cows, or mules.

So does he have the sun on his right and the moon on his left?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/PanandDaphnis.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Luna_statue.jpg/360px-Luna_statue.jpg

That is interesting because the "horns" idea is easy to confuse with the lunar symbol with the tips pointing upward.

[Snookie]

Does anyone know for sure who the two horned creatures are that are depicted on the pope's "stole?"

By the way, I wonder if there was ever a more evil looking pope. This one looks like he drinks the blood of endangered species while fornicating with corpses.

http://www.LeahyGuitars.com/Imagez/Two/Pope-a-Dope.jpg


http://www.LeahyGuitars.com/Imagez/Two/ScaryPope-a-Dope.jpg

I guess when you wear a red dress, you wear red contact lenses too. Wow, is this guy creepy!

Dennis

Although it looks like these pictures were photoshopped, they did a good job of making him look like any of the following:
1). A decaying corpse
2). He got in a fight and didn't fare so well
3). He fell down and scraped his face badly

[Dennis Leahy]

By post #3, johnf had wondered aloud about whether it had been Photoshopped. So, I dug deeper, and found a photo of what I believe is the same stole, shot in the same photo session as the Photoshopped image. Look at the gold rope/chain around his neck - the way it is up higher on his left side of his neck. The people depicted on the stole are "saints" (I'll bet Peter and Mary) with the typical halo/aura that is often used by artists to depict saintliness. That halo was Photoshopped into horns.

So, to conclude: the image I posted is false, there are no horned creatures on the stole, is was the work of a mischievous person and their image retouching software. Case solved.

Sorry if I upset anyone by kidding about the pope wearing a dress. Of course, he and the cardinals and bishops and priests do wear dresses, but probably most of them just go along with "it's tradition", and are not intentionally crossdressing. The main reason I bring this up is because there has been so much paedophilia in the Catholic church and I want to separate the notion of truly evil actions (paedophilia) which often erroneously gets lumped into homosexuality, and/or crossdressing (which are not evil.) I have friends that are under the "GLBT" banner, and want to make sure that kidding a man about wearing a dress - whether it is the cast of Monty Python or the pope - is just teasing, not an indictment.

Dennis

[Arrowwind]

With all the evil the Catholic Church has done what banting they get is what they most likely deserve. If I had a magic wand their institution would dissolve into thin air, leaving all their gold and money to be dispersed into worthy charitable organizations and then let the chips fall where they may under an air of free choices unhinged of false shame and guilt.

[DeDukshyn]

I'll just come right out and say it. Catholicism is an extension of "true" Satanism. Photoshopped images or not.

The current accepted blueprint of Christianity (aka Catholicism) was created by the Satanic elite of the Roman government just after the time of "Jesus". They saw the potential consequences of the spiritual movements at that time, how the preachings of a man to be loving and tolerant had began to be accepted, and how that threatened the control structures on earth if it spread too far.

Catholicism was created to become the "authority" on all these things, and make it convenient (aka force it down peoples throats) for people to follow their version of these teachings, which were grossly perverted interpretations, specifically designed to confuse and contradict, to fulfill their intended purpose. They threw this together with some other ancient scriptures and called it the "holy bible"

for hundreds and hundreds of years the punishment for reading the bible was death, lest you interpreted the true meaning. You had to be told what the scripture said by someone "authorized".

As a child I had visited someone who had an 800+ year old bible, and it was very different than the modern bible, there were at least 12 additional "books". This tells me that all these scriptures have been "terra formed" for specific purposes, books removed, and words changed here and there through translations, to obfuscate any hints of original meaning or that which didn't fit the paradigm of their design.

The whole purpose of Satanism needing to take control over Christianity was to prevent the enlightenment of the people. To this day at the very very very top of Catholicism are the Satan worshipers. I imagine other religions have been perverted in a similar way. It is the same evil that controls our government, our energy, and soon to be our food if codex Alimentarius gets through.

Catholicism is one of "Satan's" greatest achievements. ;)

What I see in all this is the flip side. That which they are trying to prevent, must be worth attaining. My 2 cents ;)

[risveglio]

With all the evil the Catholic Church has done what banting they get is what they most likely deserve. If I had a magic wand their institution would dissolve into thin air, leaving all their gold and money to be dispersed into worthy charitable organizations and then let the chips fall where they may under an air of free choices unhinged of false shame and guilt.

I ask this as a CINO (Catholic in name only), but what evil has the Catholic Church really done since say, Vatican II? I know the history of the Church is pretty horrible at times but I don't see nearly as much "evil" in the Church as I seen in our Governments. I am very open to be proven horribly wrong.

[DeDukshyn]

With all the evil the Catholic Church has done what banting they get is what they most likely deserve. If I had a magic wand their institution would dissolve into thin air, leaving all their gold and money to be dispersed into worthy charitable organizations and then let the chips fall where they may under an air of free choices unhinged of false shame and guilt.

I ask this as a CINO (Catholic in name only), but what evil has the Catholic Church really done since say, Vatican II? I know the history of the Church is pretty horrible at times but I don't see nearly as much "evil" in the Church as I seen in our Governments. I am very open to be proven horribly wrong.

If a person saw "evil" in their religion, that would defeat the whole purpose. The idea is that it only exists at the top and everyone else is an innocent pawn. But the purpose gets fulfilled subtly and that purpose is to not allow people to practice those things that this guy we call "Jesus" taught, but implant dogma and self righteousness in replacement. An easy way to see this is that the "church" tells you that you are inferior, a servant, and weak, and cannot do anything without God's help, yet if you actually read the teachings of the "Jesus" guy with fresh eyes, he says the exact opposite; Yet so powerful are the constructs implanted by the religion itself, they make us believe the opposite of what Jesus actually taught. I still hear their laughter about this one ... and they are not laughing with us. ;)

Government is one head of the hydra, and it fulfills its purposes, religion is another head of that hydra, designed to fulfill its purpose. They should look very different by design.

[risveglio]

With all the evil the Catholic Church has done what banting they get is what they most likely deserve. If I had a magic wand their institution would dissolve into thin air, leaving all their gold and money to be dispersed into worthy charitable organizations and then let the chips fall where they may under an air of free choices unhinged of false shame and guilt.

I ask this as a CINO (Catholic in name only), but what evil has the Catholic Church really done since say, Vatican II? I know the history of the Church is pretty horrible at times but I don't see nearly as much "evil" in the Church as I seen in our Governments. I am very open to be proven horribly wrong.

If a person saw "evil" in their religion, that would defeat the whole purpose. The idea is that it only exists at the top and everyone else is an innocent pawn. But the purpose gets fulfilled subtly and that purpose is to not allow people to practice those things that this guy we call "Jesus" taught, but implant dogma and self righteousness in replacement. An easy way to see this is that the "church" tells you that you are inferior, a servant, and weak, and cannot do anything without God's help, yet if you actually read the teachings of the "Jesus" guy with fresh eyes, he says the exact opposite; Yet so powerful are the constructs implanted by the religion itself, they make us believe the opposite of what Jesus actually taught. I still hear their laughter about this one ... and they are not laughing with us. ;)

Government is one head of the hydra, and it fulfills its purposes, religion is another head of that hydra, designed to fulfill its purpose. They should look very different by design.

Well, I don't frequent the place very often but I find myself, due to family, visiting 3 separate Churches. And for whatever reason, whether just the pastor or just the patrons, they are all quite different. One thing though is that in my experience, the "church" never told us we are inferior, a servant, and weak, They have always taught that we are brothers and sisters of Jesus. Maybe I am just going to the "wrong" churches. My problem has always been the guilt and the hipocritical teaches but I never saw it as evil. I think Jesus did teach that we need God, though I don't see anything wrong with that especially if you go with the belief that God is within, which is I first learned from a catholic priest and not from this site.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

The media attention on the young boy scandals made the following ritual make much more sense to me, they are not kissing the ring they are participating in.............

The "smelling of the Holy finger" ritual.

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[Dennis Leahy]

... what evil has the Catholic Church really done since say, Vatican II? I know the history of the Church is pretty horrible at times but I don't see nearly as much "evil" in the Church as I seen in our Governments....I think that a good analogy is the duopoly political system in the US: it is fully established, and the only effort that needs to be expended every 2 or 4 years is in maintenance of the status quo.

That is, the catholic church already planned and executed their major coup of control in the world, many, many centuries ago. Now, all they need to do is maintain the status quo. As for current covert activity, I have not researched it, but it would be worth it to research how much money they have, who it is invested in and loaned to and the allegations of money laundering. Parents of victims and the victims themselves of sexual abuse by priests (and covered-up at least as high as bishops) are of course a current evil (and who knows how far back into the past that stretches.)

Dennis

[DeDukshyn]

With all the evil the Catholic Church has done what banting they get is what they most likely deserve. If I had a magic wand their institution would dissolve into thin air, leaving all their gold and money to be dispersed into worthy charitable organizations and then let the chips fall where they may under an air of free choices unhinged of false shame and guilt.

I ask this as a CINO (Catholic in name only), but what evil has the Catholic Church really done since say, Vatican II? I know the history of the Church is pretty horrible at times but I don't see nearly as much "evil" in the Church as I seen in our Governments. I am very open to be proven horribly wrong.

If a person saw "evil" in their religion, that would defeat the whole purpose. The idea is that it only exists at the top and everyone else is an innocent pawn. But the purpose gets fulfilled subtly and that purpose is to not allow people to practice those things that this guy we call "Jesus" taught, but implant dogma and self righteousness in replacement. An easy way to see this is that the "church" tells you that you are inferior, a servant, and weak, and cannot do anything without God's help, yet if you actually read the teachings of the "Jesus" guy with fresh eyes, he says the exact opposite; Yet so powerful are the constructs implanted by the religion itself, they make us believe the opposite of what Jesus actually taught. I still hear their laughter about this one ... and they are not laughing with us. ;)

Government is one head of the hydra, and it fulfills its purposes, religion is another head of that hydra, designed to fulfill its purpose. They should look very different by design.

Well, I don't frequent the place very often but I find myself, due to family, visiting 3 separate Churches. And for whatever reason, whether just the pastor or just the patrons, they are all quite different. One thing though is that in my experience, the "church" never told us we are inferior, a servant, and weak, They have always taught that we are brothers and sisters of Jesus. Maybe I am just going to the "wrong" churches. My problem has always been the guilt and the hipocritical teaches but I never saw it as evil. I think Jesus did teach that we need God, though I don't see anything wrong with that especially if you go with the belief that God is within, which is I first learned from a catholic priest and not from this site.

Since you don't go very often, that makes a statement in itself. I was raised from a child as a Christian and went to many different churches of different denominations.

Tell me, did any church you visited teach you that "you can have all the power that Jesus had?" Do they teach that we all can be "just like him?" I have seen no church that will teach this, or allude to it, let alone show you how, yet that is Christ's message in it's entirely.

That said I haven't been to a service in almost 10 years -- maybe there is a radical transformation occurring that I have missed -- not impossible ;)

My other 2 cents ;)

[risveglio]

Parents of victims and the victims themselves of sexual abuse by priests (and covered-up at least as high as bishops) are of course a current evil (and who knows how far back into the past that stretches.)

Dennis

Though I am sure this is a real issue, I know of 7 priests that have been accused since I was 8. Six of them were innocent though they were all removed from their parish and moved to other places. Believe it or not but plenty of these accusations are made up because the Church is known to just pay off the "victims". The sexual abuse to me is exaggerated. I am not saying it is not happening but I would believe the real abuse would be on the same level as any occupation around children, same as teachers, other religions, camp counselors, etc. I am just not sure I am ready to call the Church this great evil since there is plenty of good they do.

[risveglio]

Since you don't go very often, that makes a statement in itself. I was raised from a child as a Christian and went to many different churches of different denominations.

Tell me, did any church you visited teach you that "you can have all the power that Jesus had?" Do they teach that we all can be "just like him?" I have seen no church that will teach this, or allude to it, let alone show you how, yet that is Christ's message in it's entirely.

That said I haven't been to a service in almost 10 years -- maybe there is a radical transformation occurring that I have missed -- not impossible ;)

My other 2 cents ;)

In a way they do teach that you can have the power Jesus had through the Holy Spirit. They do teach that the apostles and some Saints over the years have reached a level of oneness with God to perform miracles. Now, the idea that we are all God is not excepted but I am not sure I believe that myself. I believe we are all "In God" but not "God". Now I don't want to be seen as defending the Church as the one true way but I don't know if it is fair to call it a satanic cult either.

[DeDukshyn]

Since you don't go very often, that makes a statement in itself. I was raised from a child as a Christian and went to many different churches of different denominations.

Tell me, did any church you visited teach you that "you can have all the power that Jesus had?" Do they teach that we all can be "just like him?" I have seen no church that will teach this, or allude to it, let alone show you how, yet that is Christ's message in it's entirely.

That said I haven't been to a service in almost 10 years -- maybe there is a radical transformation occurring that I have missed -- not impossible ;)

My other 2 cents ;)

In a way they do teach that you can have the power Jesus had thought the Holy Spirit. They do teach that the apostles and some Saints over the years have reached a level of oneness with God to perform miracles. Now, the idea that we are all God is not excepted but I am not sure I believe that myself. I believe we are all "In God" but not "God". Now I don't want to be seen as defending the Church as the one true way but I don't know if it is fair to call it a satanic cult either.

Jesus was a human just like you or I. The consciousness that he was able to raise his mind to is what is called the "Christ Consciousness". The entire purpose of man is to carry this consciousness - it is the consciousness that created all the life here, and it created this life to carry the consciousness. It takes an entire planet of lifeforms to carry the Christ consciousness in it's entirety, this consciousness came in small part in one man (and brushed many others), this man we call Jesus, to help pave the way for a future that will one day be ready for the full consciousness of the Christ. And it was said He shall return.

Now when you have studied advanced spirituality enough, and practice it, you begin to perceive the effects of this Christ consciousness as it begins to guide your actions - you realize the power of it, yet it is not magical, to others, they see only "coincidences" and to you, you see divine plan.

When you realize the true purpose of humanity, and the ways to fulfill it, then compare it to what most religions have to offer, there's not a whole lot there for the offering. In fact you get a taste of enlightenment, but then a closed door, usually speaking.

Don't get me wrong, I am not speaking in absolutes and there have been many many good Christians who have defied the church and brought the living word into all their actions -- Mother Theresa comes to mind, and there are many many good loving caring people, I am not trying to demonize the people who go to church and think they are learning something - My point was about how and why Catholicism was created and for what purpose.

I found the real power of God and have been blessed enough occasionally brushed lightly with the Christ consciousness enough that I caught a hint of the experience, The experiences that led me to this are ones that would be against my "religion" had I stayed as a good "Christian". This is my Anecdote, and what I needed to get to where I am, everyone is different, I just find the religious path clumsy with roadblocks everywhere -- because someone designed them that way.

PS the only difference between "cult" and "culture" is scale ;)

[Arrowwind]

Since you don't go very often, that makes a statement in itself. I was raised from a child as a Christian and went to many different churches of different denominations.

Tell me, did any church you visited teach you that "you can have all the power that Jesus had?" Do they teach that we all can be "just like him?" I have seen no church that will teach this, or allude to it, let alone show you how, yet that is Christ's message in it's entirely.

That said I haven't been to a service in almost 10 years -- maybe there is a radical transformation occurring that I have missed -- not impossible ;)

My other 2 cents ;)

Unity Church and the Church of Religous Science definitely teaches this. They are the only christain churches worth their salt in my opinion.

The Catholic church has a long long record of child abuse in their school instutuions, shaming, guilting, belittling and downright lying. They do not read the bible in church because they dont want their people to know what it says. Ive met very few catholics that own or read a bible. They own and read the Catholic Epistlese , the catechism, and other interpretations of the the new testiment.

Only in the 1960's did the Sunday mass switch to a language that they could even understand, English instead of the archaic Latin.

The Catholic Church is responisble for the annihilation and rewritting , editing and deletion of the orginal christian teachings, through which they disempowered woman, reducing to mere servants of men and children, taking from them any sense that they too have spiritual power. They lied about Mary Magdeline and her truth will likely never be fully known about it. When two priests I knew who worked in the Vatican found the "book of Mary" and wanted to make it public they ended up running for their lives. They now are Episcopalian monks.

[DeDukshyn]

Since you don't go very often, that makes a statement in itself. I was raised from a child as a Christian and went to many different churches of different denominations.

Tell me, did any church you visited teach you that "you can have all the power that Jesus had?" Do they teach that we all can be "just like him?" I have seen no church that will teach this, or allude to it, let alone show you how, yet that is Christ's message in it's entirely.

That said I haven't been to a service in almost 10 years -- maybe there is a radical transformation occurring that I have missed -- not impossible ;)

My other 2 cents ;)

Unity Church and the Church of Religous Science definitely teaches this. They are the only christain churches worth their salt in my opinion. ]


This is good to hear!!; I also realize that we are in the middle of a "shift" and things are changing quickly, which is why I added my little disclaimer about the fact I haven't even been to a service in almost 10 years, and things can change quickly!!

I didn't mean to come across as the destroyer of the Christian faith, again, I think it is better for us all to understand what happened to the messages of Jesus or whatever his real name was, and the control the "PTB" exerted over this movement in its infancy. The Crusades were purely evil and the prime objective was to spread Christianity in the form they created it to nullify any other spiritual teachings, calling them "evil" and even conducting "witch hunts" -- against any woman who may have had any of the old world esoteric knowledge that the church was hording for its own purposes, or maybe she just owned a cat or was a lover of nature -- that used to be enough to get you burned alive in the "name of the lord".

At the same time, whatever true essence of Jesus' teaching that has persevered and is still taken seriously to guide the actions of any human, for that I truly grateful, and thankful.

[Carmody]

Yes.

Remember. ......pagan.

ROMAN catholic.

NOT 'Orthodox' catholic.

In orthodox, Christ was like, this guy..... you know. he had a name Jesus....and was, like..... HUMAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkcaItC3Hs).

However, the council of Nicaea came along.... and...we got 1600 years of pagan celebrations taped onto a Jesus birthday that no-one knew the correct date of-- in the slightest. And this really neat human named Jesus, who was very cool, used bathrooms, farted, and even scratched his balls every now and then.....he was deified into being 'the Son Of God'. Utter horse****.

Jesus of Nazareth taught: 'You Are God' and the control structure said, NO, we are in control, god is NOT you.... you are squirmy dirt, Your job is to PRAY and try...., but NEVER arrive.

But that was the entire point of the first council of Nicaea, which was to gather together all of the varying versions of Christianity and hammer it into what the emperor demanded it be. This included killing off sects and the adherents of, stealing their bibles and records, and destroying all their structures.

Kinda reminds me of Palestine, or Iraq. Or Libya. OR the north American continent. Or Australia. Or Afghanistan. And so on.

Forgotten in the mists of time. But that does not make the crime any less of a crime.

[DeDukshyn]

Yes.

Remember. ......pagan.

ROMAN catholic.

....<trim>

However, the council of Nicaea came along.... and...we got 1600 years of pagan celebrations taped onto a Jesus birthday that no-one knew the correct date of-- in the slightest. And this really neat human named Jesus, who was very cool, used bathrooms, farted, and even scratched his balls every now and then.....he was deified into being 'the Son Of God'. Utter horse****.

Jesus of Nazareth taught: 'You Are God' and the control structure said, NO, we are in control, god is NOT you.... you are squirmy dirt, Your job is to PRAY and try...., but NEVER arrive.

But that was the entire point of the first council of Nicaea, which was to gather together all of the varying versions of Christianity and hammer it into what the emperor demanded it be. This included killing off sects and the adherents of, stealing their bibles and records, and destroying all their structures.
....

Well said friend, excellent addition. ;)

[andrewgreen]

I think the horned creatures are the fornes out of chronicles of narnia.

[Star Tsar]

I believe this is real its Michael Angelo's statue of Moses complete with trimmed HORNS!
Puts me in mind of Hellboy...

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/artwork/michelangelo-sculptures10.htm

[sdv]

So, to conclude: the image I posted is false, there are no horned creatures on the stole, is was the work of a mischievous person and their image retouching software. Case solved.

Dennis, methinks that the photoshopping just enhanced what is already there. Pope Benny comes across to me as creepy in most photographs.

The Roman Catholic church uses many pagan and occult symbols, even though it has perverted the original meaning of those symbols; e.g. in Paganism the horned man represents the male energy and the physicality and virility of that energy is celebrated and honoured in a respectful way.

Symbols are not good or bad, or even powerful in themselves, but what we associate with a symbol and the thoughts and intent we attach to the symbols accumulates power that we can perceive as good or bad. The Roman Catholic church has accumulated a lot of perverted male energy over many generations.