The Psyche: Metaphors of Meaning

[Jeffrey]

[ Mod-edit: The first 13 posts in this thread were original posted between Dec 11 and 21, 2012, in the Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&highlight=horus-ra) thread. These 13 posts were copied here on Dec 26, 2012, to start this new thread. - Paul. ]

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The theory of the bicameral mind piqued my interest regarding all of this. If we consider it alongside the Gaia Hypothesis and Sheldrakes work then the evolution beyond bicamerality could have been Gaia's immune system kicking in.

Fascinating, Vivek, I waited until I felt clear minded and fresh to read this page carefully - what incredible dot connection - DNA, bearcow, DoT, Amzer Zo and Beren and all - weird the feeling to be such a neophyte with too much energy for his own good

staring with my recognition of your return via post #2325 above and now this post #2329 – dude, you have done some outstanding work and dot connection – thank you...

also DNA – thanks for post #2328 and 2330 and Beren’s post #2323 - all mind blowing...

I think I am coming around full circle and getting back on track – just know that I am always honest as to my current points of views (as I would rather be honest and wrong than to be a pretender or be someone who just tries to satisfy others).

I hope one day my position solidifies so I can be truly trusted.

It is interesting and I did not intend for "my thread" to go the direction it did - but it did... and that direction twisted back to the core, central focus of this thread -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53070-Soul-Preservation-Technology...-why-not

Chester! Check this out ...

I haven't drawn any conclusions, I'm just playing with ideas here. I would like to share more and elaborate on some things.

Gaia is one giant organism. On this planet there are systems within systems and they all work together in harmony. A holoarchy if you will.

As an aside, some time ago a species of free-living bacteria was adopted into the human body and it's genetic material is passed on alongside our own DNA. This is the mitochondria, and it is an endosymbiont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endosymbiotic_theory). Mitochondria provides/converts the energy our muscles require for movement, in return we preserve and pass along it's genetic material, thereby insuring it's survival -- it's a symbiotic relationship based on desirable characteristics for survival.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Endosymbiosis.PNG

Now, Sheldrake proposes that not only is genetic material passed along from generation to generation, but things like memories, ideologies, and archetypes are passed along as well by morphogenetic resonance.

Memetics proposes a theory with similar effects. Here is a brief overview from Wikipedia:





Memetics is a theory of mental content based on an analogy with Darwinian evolution, originating from the popularization of Richard Dawkins' 1976 book The Selfish Gene.[1] It purports to be an approach to evolutionary models of cultural information transfer.

The meme, analogous to a gene, was conceived as a "unit of culture" (an idea, belief, pattern of behaviour, etc.) which is "hosted" in one or more individual minds, and which can reproduce itself, thereby jumping from mind to mind. Thus what would otherwise be regarded as one individual influencing another to adopt a belief is seen—when adopting the intentional stance[1][2]—as an idea-replicator reproducing itself in a new host. As with genetics, particularly under a Dawkinsian interpretation, a meme's success may be due to its contribution to the effectiveness of its host.

Memetics is also notable for sidestepping the traditional concern with the truth of ideas and beliefs. Instead, it is interested in their success.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics

Now, imagine the subconscious mind and archetypes. A long time ago, if indeed humans did have something like a bicameral mind, it would have been beneficial to the planet. Our storehouse of archetypes would have been there to help us help Gaia, helping us fulfill our role, maintaining harmony. Imagine if our own brain lost it's connection with one of it's important organs, or if it's communication was severely diminished or distorted. The harmony of the body would no longer be in full effect. The organ may still go on functioning, but not as intended ... this would most likely end up having negative consequences for the body.

Humanities purpose for the planet (as with the function of an important organ) may have once been a naturally occurring instinct. For some reason though, the connection was lost. Bicamerality was broken.

The question is why. Nature evolves harmoniously. Sure, there is the cycle of life and death, but it is still harmonious ... Still purposeful. A possible answer to the "why the connection was broken" is that we have been quarantined by the planet. The reason being there was an inpouring of foreign information received through the channels of our subconscious minds that was originally designated for our connection with Gaia.

To stop this we evolved (based on the "base signal" from the planet) into a brain without bicamerality.

This foreign energy could have been just that -- energy. It may have had some level of consciousness, but no real intelligence, no real will. Esoterically speaking, it would have been interpreted by our subconscious minds as typal beings (or archontic energies). A program of sorts with a function, a function merely based on it's energy (physics-wise, energetic systems in lack within other systems will "seek" equilibrium by means of energy transference ... operating in a parasitical fashion or vise-versa).

The connection was severed but the "implant" remained, the foreign, invading energy had already taken root in our minds. It developed with the help of our own subconscious. It comes in uninvited and recognized subconsciously as dangerous. It finds it's home in the archetypal nest of our subconscious reserved for things that are predatory/parasitic in nature -- and it grows. It memetically, morphogenically evolves. What was a natural energy (albeit "negative" in nature) has developed purpose, it has developed will by using corners of our physical brains we are not consciously aware of. It is perversely self-aware. This is real evil. This is the real sickness. It is in the mind.

Related post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=596767&viewfull=1#post596767

Why didn't this happen with any other species on the planet? Maybe because, by means of natural selection (memetically speaking), this energy had the best chance of survival and it was in our minds that it was most likely to develop/gain that which it lacked. Intelligence and will.

Mankind develops religion, they seek answers, they no longer remembers their purpose. A veil has been placed over them. The tragedy that has taken place in the subconscious manifests itself through the themes of religion.

Out of this I can see how, from forgetfulness lack of understanding, evil is permitted and perpetuated. Think of this in relation to abuse, murder, war ... none of which we find being carried out by any other species on the planet.

Again, these are not statements of fact, I am just speculating.

There is more, but I have to leave to get ready for work.

[Jeffrey]

-Na9-jV_OJI

Excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimonic):








"DAEMONIC

In psychology, the daimonic refers to a natural human impulse within everyone to affirm, assert, perpetuate, and increase the self to its complete totality. If each Self undergoes a process of individuation, an involuntary and natural development towards individual maturity and harmony with collective human nature, then its driver is the daimonic, the force which seeks to overcome the obstacles to development, whatever the cost—both guide and guardian. Rollo May writes that the daimonic is "any natural function which has the power to take over the whole person... The daimonic can be either creative or destructive, but it is normally both... The daimonic is obviously not an entity but refers to a fundamental, archetypal function of human experience -- an existential reality". The daimonic is seen as an essentially undifferentiated, impersonal, primal force of nature which arises from the ground of being rather than the self as such.

The demands of the daimonic force upon the individual can be unorthodox, frightening, and overwhelming. With its obligation to protect the complete maturation of the individual and the unification of opposing forces within the Self, the inner urge can come in the form of a sudden journey (either intentional or serendipitous), a psychological illness, or simply neurotic and off-center behavior. Jung writes, "The daimon throws us down, makes us traitors to our ideals and cherished convictions — traitors to the selves we thought we were." Ultimately, it is the will of man to achieve his humanity, but since parts of his humanity may be deemed unacceptable and disowned, its demands are too often resisted. It is no wonder Yeats described it as that "other Will". Confrontation with the daimonic can be considered similar to "shadow-work".

While similar to several other psychological terms, noteworthy differences exist. The daimonic is often improperly confused with the term demonic. May introduced the daimonic to psychology as a concept designed to rival the terms 'devil' and 'demonic'. He believed the term demonic to be unsatisfactory because of our tendency, rooted in Judeo-Christian mythology, to project power outside of the self and onto devils and demons. The daimonic is also similar to Jung's shadow, but is viewed as less differentiated. A pitfall of the Jungian doctrine of the shadow is the temptation to project evil onto this relatively autonomous 'splinter personality' and thus unnecessarily fragment the individual and obviate freedom and responsibility. Finally, by comparison to Freud's death instinct (Thanatos), the daimonic is seen as less one-sided."

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BEGIN NEW EXCERPT from http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_archons15.htm (some interesting nuggets in there)






THE LION’S GAZE
One of the most beautiful teachings in Buddhism is called “The Lion’s Gaze.”

The following example is given as an illustration:
when we throw a stick around a dog, the dog runs after the stick, but when we throw a stick around a lion, the lion runs after us.

The throwing of the stick in this example represents when an uncomfortable, afflictive emotion inside of us gets triggered. When we are triggered, it is as if a button inside of us has been pushed which activates an unconscious, compulsive knee-jerk reflex.

Running after the stick like the dog, which is to indulge in and “act out” being triggered, is to put our attention outside of ourselves.

This is to relate to what is triggering us in the outside world as “the problem.”

From this point of view, if only what was triggering us in the outside world would stop, we would feel better and the problem would be solved. Having the gaze of the lion, however, if we become triggered by something, we turn our gaze within ourselves and self-reflect, looking at whatever it is within us that has gotten activated.

The lion is not afraid to go right to the source of the trigger, which is never outside, but always within ourselves.

Assuming the fearless gaze of the lion, we relate to the situation that has triggered us as a gift, as it has helped us access a part of ourselves that up until now has been unconscious, and hence hidden.

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Another cool link ...

-------> http://www.zaporacle.com/a-gnostic-view-of-mind-parasites/ <-------

[Jeffrey]

Now, imagine the subconscious mind and archetypes. A long time ago, if indeed humans did have something like a bicameral mind, it would have been beneficial to the planet. Our storehouse of archetypes would have been there to help us help Gaia, helping us fulfill our role, maintaining harmony. Imagine if our own brain lost it's connection with one of it's important organs, or if it's communication was severely diminished or distorted. The harmony of the body would no longer be in full effect. The organ may still go on functioning, but not as intended ... this would most likely end up having negative consequences for the body.

Fascinating stuff, Vivek. I see the current human condition in a very similar light, though admittedly I did not make the connection with the loss of a bicameral mind. I think it is most evident when you look at satellite images of densely populated areas. Cities look very much like necrosis (tissue death), or perhaps even cancer. When you take deforestation into account (particularly in the Amazon, i.e. Earth's lungs), along with the fact that the micro reflects the macro... it seems all the more troubling.

Don't get me wrong; I do believe in the intrinsic good of the human soul, but this parasitic/cancerous tendency is a problem that is all-too-often ignored.

It does! What ever is going on internally, at a collective level, could be manifesting itself outwardly.

Here is an excerpt from an PDF entitled, "Humans as cancer" --->




When a spot on a person's skin changes color, becomes tough or rough and elevated or ulcerated, bleeds, scales, scabs over and fails to heal, it's time to consult a doctor. For these are early signs of skin cancer.

As seen by astronauts and photographed from space by satellites, millions of manmade patterns on the land surface of Earth resemble nothing so much as the skin conditions of cancer patients. The transformation of the natural contours of the land into the geometric patterns of farm fields, the straightening of meandering rivers into canal-like channels, and the logging of forests into checkerboard clearcuts all have their counterparts in the loss of normal skin markings in cancer victims. Green forests logged into brown scrub and overgrazed grasslands bleached into white wasteland are among the changes in Earth's color. Highways, streets, parking lots and other paved surfaces have toughened Earth's surface, while cities have roughened it. Slag heaps and garbage dumps can be compared to raised skin lesions. Open-pit mines, quarries and bomb craters, including the 30 million left by US forces in Indochina, resemble skin ulcerations. Saline seeps in inappropriately irrigated farm fields look like scaly, festering sores. Signs of bleeding include the discharge of human sewage, factory effluents and acid mine drainage into adjacent waterways, and the erosion of topsoil from deforested hillsides to turn rivers, lakes and coastal waters yellow, brown and red. The red ring around much of Madagascar that is visible from space strikes some observers as a symptom that the island is bleeding to death.

If skin cancer were all that ailed Earth, the planet's eventual recovery would be less in doubt. For with the exception of malignant melanoma, skin cancer is usually curable. But the parallels between the way cancer progresses in the human body and humans' progressively malignant impact on Earth are more than skin-deep.

Consider:

Cancer cells proliferate rapidly and uncontrollably in the body; humans continue to proliferate rapidly and uncontrollably in the world. Crowded cancer cells harden into tumors; humans crowd into cities. Cancer cells infiltrate and destroy adjacent normal tissues; urban sprawl devours open land. Malignant tumors shed cells that migrate to distant parts of the body and set up secondary tumors; humans have colonized just about every habitable part of the globe. Cancer cells lose their natural appearance and distinctive functions; humans homogenize diverse natural ecosystems into artificial monocultures. Malignant tumors excrete enzymes and other chemicals that adversely affect remote parts of the body; humans' motor vehicles, power plants, factories and farms emit toxins that pollute environments far from the point of origin.

A cancerous tumor continues to grow even as its expropriation of nutrients and disruption of vital functions cause its host to waste away. Similarly, human societies undermine their own long-term viability by depleting and fouling the environment. With civilization as with cancer, initial success begets self-defeating excess.

It's easy to dismiss the link between cancer the disease in humans and humans as a disease on the planet as both preposterous and repulsive--or as a mere metaphor rather than the unifying hypothesis its leading proponent claims for it. Only a handful of limited-circulation periodicals, including this one (see Forencich 1992/93), have granted the concept a respectful hearing.

Accepting the humans-as-cancer concept comes easier if one also accepts the Gaia hypothesis that the planet functions as a single living organism. To be sure, the Earth is mostly inanimate. Its rocky, watery surface supports only a relatively thin layer of plants, animals and other living organisms. But so, too, is a mature tree mostly dead wood and bark, with only its thin cambium layer and its leaves, flowers and seeds actually alive. Yet the tree is a living organism. Earth behaves like a living organism to the extent that the chemical composition of its rocky crust, oceans and atmosphere has both supported and been influenced by the biological processes of living organisms over several billion years. These self-sustaining, self-regulating processes have kept the Earth's surface temperature, its concentrations of salt in the oceans and oxygen in the atmosphere, and other conditions favorable for life.

James Lovelock, who propounded the Gaia hypothesis in 1979, initially rejected humans' cancer-like impacts as a corollary, declaring flatly: "People are not in any way like a tumor" (Lovelock 1988, p. 177). But before long he modified this view, observing: "Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor or neoplasm" (Lovelock 1991,p. 153).

Others have stated the connection more strongly. "If you picture Earth and its inhabitants as a single self-sustaining organism, along the lines of the popular Gaia concept, then we humans might ourselves be seen as pathogenic," Jerold M. Lowenstein, professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, has written. "We are infecting the planet, growing recklessly as cancer cells do, destroying Gaia's other specialized cells (that is, extinguishing other species), and poisoning our air supply....From a Gaian perspective... the main disease to be eliminated is us" (Lowenstein 1992). [Vivek: the disease could be in our very psyche]

Full PDF here: http://www.brontaylor.com/courses/pdf/MacDougall--HumansCancer.pdf

As above, so below. Microcosmic to macrocosmic -- fractally (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=544797&viewfull=1#post544797).

The following quote is from Wikipedia:




Since a holon is embedded in larger wholes, it is influenced by and influences these larger wholes. And since a holon also contains subsystems, or parts, it is similarly influenced by and influences these parts. Information flows bidirectionally between smaller and larger systems as well as rhizomatic contagion. When this bidirectionality of information flow and understanding of role is compromised, for whatever reason, the system begins to break down: wholes no longer recognize their dependence on their subsidiary parts, and parts no longer recognize the organizing authority of the wholes. Cancer may be understood as such a breakdown in the biological realm.

Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=598572&viewfull=1#post598572

And this quote is from a post on the previous page:




A foreign energy comes in and disrupts our system, that is the stressing factor/selection pressure. Bicamerality could have connected us closer to Gaia at one point (acting more as a collective with nature and the planet in a harmonious sense) and that link was partially dependent on Gaia's virgin resonance (i.e. Shumann). This foreign energy comes in and hijacks it in a way, and gets us thrown off, we develop [new] complexes, archetypes, gods of old for these "invading energies" ... They begin to make us forget our spiritual heritage with the earth. We become more like a cancer to the earth than a helpful holon or keeper. The (mechanistic) immune response for Gaia would be to tweak the signal, sever the bicamerality of the mind to cut ties with the foreign invading energy. Sheldrakes theories provide the foundations for this to happen if we consider earth providing the "base frequency" [Shumann resonance]. A drastic measure, but it had to be done...

Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=599263&viewfull=1#post599263

Now, here are various excerpts from an article by Rupert Sheldrake entitled, "Mind, Memory, and Archetype Morphic Resonance and the Collective Unconscious Psychological Perspectives" --->




All of us have been brought up on the idea that memories are stored in the brain; we use the word brain interchangeably with mind or memory. I am suggesting that the brain is more like a tuning system than a memory storage device. One of the main arguments for the localization of memory in the brain is the fact that certain kinds of brain damage can lead to loss of memory. If the brain is damaged in a car accident and someone loses memory, then the obvious assumption is that memory tissue must have been destroyed. But this is not necessarily so.

Consider the TV analogy again. If I damaged your TV set so that you were unable to receive certain channels, or if I made the TV set aphasic by destroying the part of it concerned with the production of sound so that you could still get the pictures but could not get the sound, this would not prove that the sound or the pictures were stored inside the TV set. It would merely show that I had affected the tuning system so you could not pick up the correct signal any longer. No more does memory loss due to brain damage prove that memory is stored inside the brain. In fact, most memory loss is temporary: amnesia following concussion, for example, is often temporary. This recovery of memory is very difficult to explain in terms of conventional theories: if the memories have been destroyed because the memory tissue has been destroyed, they ought not to come back again; yet they often do. [Vivek: think of the TV analogy in terms of "Gaia's virgin resonance" and bicamerality as well]

Jung thought of the collective unconscious as a collective memory, the collective memory of humanity. He thought that people would be more tuned into members of their own family and race and social and cultural group, but that nevertheless there would be a background resonance from all humanity: a pooled or averaged experience of basic things that all people experience (e.g., maternal behavior and various social patterns and structures of experience and thought). It would not be a memory from particular persons in the past so much as an average of the basic forms of memory structures; these are the archetypes. Jung's notion of the collective unconscious makes extremely good sense in the context of the general approach that I am putting forward. Morphic resonance theory would lead to a radical reaffirmation of Jung's concept of the collective unconscious.

It needs reaffirmation because the current mechanistic context of conventional biology, medicine, and psychology denies that there can be any such thing as the collective unconscious; the concept of a collective memory of a race or species has been excluded as even a theoretical possibility. You cannot have any inheritance of acquired characteristics according to conventional theory; you can only have an inheritance of genetic mutations. Under the premises of conventional biology, there would be no way that the experiences and myths of, for example, African tribes, would have any influence on the dreams of someone in Switzerland of non-African descent, which is the sort of thing Jung thought did happen. That is quite impossible from the conventional point of view, which is why most biologists and others within mainstream science do not take the idea of the collective unconscious seriously. It is considered a flaky, fringe idea that may have some poetic value as a kind of metaphor, but has no relevance to proper science because it is a completely untenable concept from the point of view of normal biology.

The approach I am putting forward is very similar to Jung's idea of the collective unconscious. The main difference is that Jung's idea was applied primarily to human experience and human collective memory. What I am suggesting is that a very similar principle operates throughout the entire universe, not just in human beings. If the kind of radical paradigm shift I am talking about goes on within biology-if the hypothesis of morphic resonance is even approximately correct-then Jung's idea of the collective unconscious would become a mainstream idea: Morphogenic fields and the concept of the collective unconscious would completely change the context of modern psychology.

Read the full article here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=598173&viewfull=1#post598173

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/8fc66a2abcea26fe1e9f4892fa48d272255688ac_m.jpg

There are many parallels between this topic and the motifs/themes in The Matrix Trilogy ... and much more to say I think.

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Lastly, I'd like to add this quote that I think pertains to post #2329 ...

It's from a book entitled, "Atom and Archetype: The Pauli/Jung Letters, 1932-1958."

Yes, Wolfgang Pauli and Carl Jung -- very cool.




The psyche…as a medium participates in both Spirit and
Matter. I am convinced that it (the psyche) is partly of a material
nature. The archetypes, for example, are Ideas (in the Platonic sense)
on the one hand, and yet are directly connected with physiological
processes on the other; and in cases of synchronicity they are
arrangers of physical circumstances, so that they can also be
regarded as a characteristic of Matter (as the feature which imbues it
with meaning). (pp. 100-01)

-Carl Jung

[Jeffrey]

This is interesting!

EXCERPTS FROM WIKIPEDIA




Bicameralism (the philosophy of "two-chamberedness") is a hypothesis in psychology that argues that the human brain once assumed a state in which cognitive functions were divided between one part of the brain which appears to be "speaking", and a second part which listens and obeys—a bicameral mind. The term was coined by psychologist Julian Jaynes, who presented the idea in his 1976 book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, wherein he made the case that a bicameral mentality was the normal and ubiquitous state of the human mind only as recently as 3000 years ago.

Julian Jaynes (February 27, 1920 – November 21, 1997) was an American psychologist, best known for his book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind (1976), in which he argued that ancient peoples were not conscious.

Jaynes defines "consciousness" more narrowly than most philosophers. Jaynes' definition of consciousness is synonymous with what philosophers call "meta-consciousness" or "meta-awareness" i.e. awareness of awareness, thoughts about thinking, desires about desires, beliefs about beliefs. This form of reflection is also distinct from the kinds of "deliberations" seen in other higher animals such as crows insofar as Jaynesian consciousness is dependent on linguistic cognition.

Jaynes wrote that ancient humans before roughly 1000BC were not reflectively meta-conscious and operated by means of automatic, nonconscious habit-schemas. Instead of having meta-consciousness, these humans were constituted by what Jaynes calls the "bicameral mind". For bicameral humans, when habit did not suffice to handle novel stimuli and stress rose at the moment of decision, neural activity in the "dominant" (left) hemisphere was modulated by auditory verbal hallucinations originating in the so-called "silent" (right) hemisphere (particularly the right temporal cortex), which were heard as the voice of a chieftain or god and immediately obeyed.

Jaynes wrote, "[For bicameral humans], volition came as a voice that was in the nature of a neurological command, in which the command and the action were not separated, in which to hear was to obey." Jaynes argued that the change from bicamerality to consciousness (linguistic meta-cognition) occurred over a period of ten centuries beginning around 1000 BC. The selection pressure for Jaynesian consciousness as a means for cognitive control is due, in part, to chaotic social disorganizations and the development of new methods of behavioral control such as writing.

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Sources (with critical responses):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Jaynes

This makes me think of archetypes, consciousness, dusty plasma (EM fields, Persinger, etc), the evolution of the human brain (also, it's relationship with the subconscious and the astral) and well, this thread (alien dreaming, fractal brain, Gaia Mythos, etc).

See also:

Bicameralism and Theology
(http://philosophyandpsychology.com/?p=1166)
and

The Hypothetical Evolution of Hallucinatory Self-Regulation (http://philosophyandpsychology.com/?p=1083)

THE FOLLOWING EXCERPTS ARE FROM http://deoxy.org/alephnull/jaynes.htm




Jaynes adduces evidence for this astonishing hypothesis from several sources. One is the "voices" heard by schizophrenic patients, which Jaynes interprets as a throwback to the bicameral mind of ancient times. Another is evidence from neurosurgery, where patients hear "voices" upon having their brains electrically stimulated. Another is the polytheistic gods of ancient civilizations, which spoke directly and intimately to individuals:

"Who then were these gods who pushed men about like robots and sang epics through their lips? They were voices whose speech and directions could be as distinctly heard by the Iliadic heroes as voices are heard by certain epileptic and schizophrenic patients...The gods were organizations of the central nervous system"(73-4).

Jaynes suggests that each person had his own individual "god", which always told them what to do. The theory further accounts for why the gods were so naturalistic and anthropomorphic, rather than supernatural and otherworldly.

Where did the gods go, then? Jaynes proposes that a series of unprecedented environmental stresses in the second millennium B.C. forced the two halves of the brain to merge into unicamerality. (This was a cultural, rather than a biological, transformation, Jaynes notes.) The stresses might have included natural disasters (the story of the Flood comes to mind), population growth, forced migrations, warfare, trade, and the development of writing. A common denominator among all these is the introduction of complexity and difference, things the bicameral mind deals with only with difficulty. Jaynes suggests, among other things, that traders in contact with other cultures might have been forced to develop a "protosubjective consciousness" to cope with the gods of unfamiliar people.

Jaynes suggests that the unprecedented stresses of the 2nd millennium B.C. forced the individual into isolation, within which a sense of I-ness appeared to fill the void left by the inadequacy of the god. This hypothesis posits a relatively homogeneous and stress-free existence prior to the development of consciousness. In short, Jaynes must posit that there really was an Eden, from which humanity Fell.

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[Jeffrey]

Now this is fascinating!

EXCERPTS FROM WIKIPEDIA [emphasis added]





A holon (Greek: ὅλον, holon neuter form of ὅλος, holos "whole") is something that is simultaneously a whole and a part. The word was coined by Arthur Koestler in his book The Ghost in the Machine (1967, p. 48). Koestler was compelled by two observations in proposing the notion of the holon. The first observation was influenced by Nobel Prize winner Herbert A. Simon's parable of the two watchmakers, wherein Simon concludes that complex systems will evolve from simple systems much more rapidly if there are stable intermediate forms present in that evolutionary process than if they are not present. The second observation was made by Koestler himself in his analysis of hierarchies and stable intermediate forms in both living organisms and social organizations. He concluded that, although it is easy to identify sub-wholes or parts, wholes and parts in an absolute sense do not exist anywhere. Koestler proposed the word holon to describe the hybrid nature of sub-wholes and parts within in vivo systems. From this perspective, holons exist simultaneously as self-contained wholes in relation to their sub-ordinate parts, and dependent parts when considered from the inverse direction.

Koestler also says holons are autonomous, self-reliant units that possess a degree of independence and handle contingencies without asking higher authorities for instructions. These holons are also simultaneously subject to control from one or more of these higher authorities. The first property ensures that holons are stable forms that are able to withstand disturbances, while the latter property signifies that they are intermediate forms, providing a context for the proper functionality for the larger whole.

Finally, Koestler defines a holarchy as a hierarchy of self-regulating holons that function first as autonomous wholes in supra-ordination to their parts, secondly as dependent parts in sub-ordination to controls on higher levels, and thirdly in coordination with their local environment.

A holon is a system (or phenomenon) which is an evolving self-organizing dissipative structure, composed of other holons, whose structures exist at a balance point between chaos and order. It is maintained by the throughout of matter–energy and information–entropy connected to other holons and is simultaneously a whole in and itself at the same time being nested within another holon and so is a part of something much larger than itself. Holons range in size from the smallest subatomic particles and strings, all the way up to the multiverse, comprising many universes. Individual humans, their societies and their cultures are intermediate level holons, created by the interaction of forces working upon us both top-down and bottom-up. On a non-physical level, words, ideas, sounds, emotions—everything that can be identified—is simultaneously part of something, and can be viewed as having parts of its own, similar to sign in regard of semiotics. Defined in this way, holons are related to the concept of autopoiesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis), especially as it was developed in the application of Stafford Beer to second-order cybernetics and viable system theory, but also Niklas Luhmann in his social systems theory.

Since a holon is embedded in larger wholes, it is influenced by and influences these larger wholes. And since a holon also contains subsystems, or parts, it is similarly influenced by and influences these parts. Information flows bidirectionally between smaller and larger systems as well as rhizomatic contagion. When this bidirectionality of information flow and understanding of role is compromised, for whatever reason, the system begins to break down: wholes no longer recognize their dependence on their subsidiary parts, and parts no longer recognize the organizing authority of the wholes. Cancer may be understood as such a breakdown in the biological realm.

A hierarchy of holons is called a holarchy. The holarchic model can be seen as an attempt to modify and modernise perceptions of natural hierarchy.

Types of holons

Individual holon
An individual holon possesses a dominant monad; that is, it possesses a definable "I-ness". An individual holon is discrete, self-contained, and also demonstrates the quality of agency, or self-directed behavior. The individual holon, although a discrete and self-contained whole, is made up of parts; in the case of a human, examples of these parts would include the heart, lungs, liver, brain, spleen, etc. When a human exercises agency, taking a step to the left, for example, the entire holon, including the constituent parts, moves together as one unit.

Social holon
A social holon does not possess a dominant monad; it possesses only a definable "we-ness", as it is a collective made up of individual holons. In addition, rather than possessing discrete agency, a social holon possesses what is defined as nexus agency. An illustration of nexus agency is best described by a flock of geese. Each goose is an individual holon, the flock makes up a social holon. Although the flock moves as one unit when flying, and it is "directed" by the choices of the lead goose, the flock itself is not mandated to follow that lead goose. Another way to consider this would be collective activity that has the potential for independent internal activity at any given moment.

Artifacts
American Philosopher Ken Wilber includes Artifacts in his theory of holons. Artifacts are anything (e.g. a statue or a piece of music) that is created by either an individual holon or a social holon. While lacking any of the defining structural characteristics - agency; self-maintenance; I-ness; Self Transcendence - of the previous two holons, Artifacts are useful to include in a comprehensive scheme due to their potential to replicate aspects of and profoundly affect (via, say interpretation) the previously described holons. Artifacts are made up individual or social holons (e.g. a statue is made up atoms).

The development of Artificial Intelligence may force one to question where the line should be drawn between the individual holon and the artifact.



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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)

[Jeffrey]

In the same vein as the two previous posts ...

EXCERPTS FROM WIKIPEDIA

Morphic field

"Morphic field" is a term introduced by Sheldrake. He proposes that there is a field within and around a "morphic unit" which organizes its characteristic structure and pattern of activity. According to Sheldrake, the "morphic field" underlies the formation and behaviour of "holons" and "morphic units", and can be set up by the repetition of similar acts or thoughts. The hypothesis is that a particular form belonging to a certain group, which has already established its (collective) "morphic field", will tune into that "morphic field". The particular form will read the collective information through the process of "morphic resonance", using it to guide its own development. This development of the particular form will then provide, again through "morphic resonance", a feedback to the "morphic field" of that group, thus strengthening it with its own experience, resulting in new information being added (i.e. stored in the database). Sheldrake regards the "morphic fields" as a universal database for both organic (genetic) and abstract (mental) forms.

That a mode of transmission of shared informational patterns and archetypes might exist did gain some tacit acceptance when it was proposed as the theory of the collective unconscious by renowned psychiatrist Carl Jung. According to Sheldrake, the theory of "morphic fields" might provide an explanation for Jung's concept as well. Also, he agrees that the concept of akashic records, term from Vedas representing the "library" of all the experiences and memories of human minds (souls) through their physical lifetime, can be related to "morphic fields", since one's past (an akashic record) is a mental form, consisting of thoughts as simpler mental forms (all processed by the same brain), and a group of similar or related mental forms also have their associated (collective) "morphic field". (Sheldrake's view on memory-traces is that they are non-local, and not located in the brain.)

Morphic resonance

Essential to Sheldrake's model is the hypothesis of morphic resonance. This is a feedback mechanism between the field and the corresponding forms of morphic units. The greater the degree of similarity, the greater the resonance, leading to habituation or persistence of particular forms. So, the existence of a morphic field makes the existence of a new similar form easier.

Sheldrake proposes that the process of morphic resonance leads to stable morphic fields, which are significantly easier to tune into. He suggests that this is the means by which simpler organic forms synergetically self-organize into more complex ones, and that this model allows a different explanation for the process of evolution itself, as an addition to Darwin's evolutionary processes of selection and variation.

Morphogenetic field

For the concept in developmental biology, see Morphogenetic field.

Morphogenetic fields are defined by Sheldrake as the subset of morphic fields which influence, and are influenced by living things.

The term [morphic fields] is more general in its meaning than morphogenetic fields, and includes other kinds of organizing fields in addition to those of morphogenesis; the organizing fields of animal and human behaviour, of social and cultural systems, and of mental activity can all be regarded as morphic fields which contain an inherent memory.
—Rupert Sheldrake, The Presence of the Past (Chapter 6, page 112)

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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake

[Jeffrey]

But your recent posts and my strange and inexplicable return to the central focus of this thread (something I tried to shove under the rug via the excuse "humanity doesn't want solution"), I went back and reviewed my understanding of Jayne's considerations about the bicameral mind and the thought crossed my "mind" - I have had conversations with one or more voices in my head since I was a teenager (as noted many times).

Could I be experiencing some form of "bicameralism?" If so, is it possible that an intelligence (even if it is artificial and even if it is nothing but reflections of an intelligence of the past) has the capacity to involve "itself" in our inner dialogue and that those of us who have (for whatever reason) a greater capacity to engage in this type of dynamic might also end up pretty freaking crazy (like I have - though I have it under pretty good control)... such as "archontic forces" at one or more levels of their being... where I confuse "me" talking to the other half of "me" with one or more "external voices" - like happened to me a year ago where a very clear and strong voice in my head told me I had to kill myself to save the world? There is zero chance that was my own, uninfluenced voice and the minute I removed the drugs and alcohol and emerged out of my depression, that voice is no longer consciously there.


Firstly, I should state that I am no authority on the subject. I can't reiterate enough that I am only sharing ideas here (quilted from the patches of insight from other researchers). I don't know whether they are "right" or "wrong" -- but they seem to be corollary to the topic of this thread, which I keep coming back to as well (the last two thread's I started were because of this one).

Now, regarding Jaynes' hypothesis. Here is a relavent excerpt from Wikipedia in regards to the Bicameral Mind Theory and auditory hallucinations:




In ancient times, Jaynes noted, gods were generally much more numerous and much more anthropomorphic than in modern times, and speculates that this was because each bicameral person had their own "god" who reflected their own desires and experiences. He also noted that in ancient societies the corpses of the dead were often treated as though still alive (being seated, dressed and even fed) and argued that the dead bodies were presumed to be still living and the source of auditory hallucinations (see ancestor worship). This adaptation to the village communities of 100 individuals or more formed the core of religion. Unlike today's hallucinations, the voices of ancient times were structured by cultural norms to produce a seamlessly functioning society. In Ancient Greek culture there is often mention of the Logos, which is a very similar concept. It was a type of guiding voice that was heard as from a seemingly external source.

Jaynes inferred that these "voices" came from the right brain counterparts of the left brain language centres—specifically, the counterparts to Wernicke's area and Broca's area. These regions are somewhat dormant in the right brains of most modern humans, but Jaynes noted that some studies show that auditory hallucinations correspond to increased activity in these areas of the brain.

Even in modern times, Jaynes notes that there is no consensus as to the cause or origins of schizophrenia (the subject is still hotly debated). According to Jaynes, schizophrenia is simply a vestige of humanity's earlier state. Recent evidence shows that many schizophrenics don't just hear random voices but experience "command hallucinations" instructing their behavior or urging them to commit certain acts. As support for Jaynes's argument, these command hallucinations are little different from the commands from gods which feature so prominently in ancient stories. Indirect evidence supporting Jaynes's theory that hallucinations once played an important role in human mentality can be found in the recent book Muses, Madmen, and Prophets: Rethinking the History, Science, and Meaning of Auditory Hallucination by Daniel Smith.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)

Here is a little thought experiment (and speculation)...

Okay, there are many species on this planet that operate under the blanket of a collective consciousness (i.e. bees, birds, dolphins, whales, ants, etc.). They are in harmony with the earth. Naturally, they do not over consume, war with each other, pollute, or murder. Now, a long time ago there comes a natural species of homo sapiens. There DNA is pure and home grown. There is a difference though between them and all of the other holons (i.e. species) on Gaia. They are highly intelligent and they have free will. There is a catch though. They have a psychological repository of archetypal templates in their minds. Archetypes of all the grandiose aspects of nature, and of Gaia herself. Not only would this be a logical survival mechanism, but it would also be a means for these humans to stay connected to their home. In this sense they were part of a collective. They were self-aware and had free-will, yet they were conscious of their role in the holoarchy that is Mother Earth. It was in their very make-up, instinctual. This archetypal repository (i.e. connection with nature) also helped to answer the inherent question that any intelligent, self-aware species has -- why? -- in a language they would accept, understand, and identify with.

This isn't to say that they wouldn't develop science and society. It just means that they would have begun there journey from the other side of the coin -- the Spirit. They may have grown in their understanding of matter and physics; but the harmony would have never been disrupted because of their instinctual connection with the planet. They might have taken to the stars, in search of other life and wonder, for no other reason other than to scratch a curious itch and gain more knowledge about the universe.

This didn't happen though. Science was approached from a secular standpoint. Humanity grew like a tumor, spreading like a cancer. Virulent. Most of the population isn't conscious of any connection with Gaia. At best, some are at least conscientious.

Why?

Considering the Shumann Resonance, morphogenetic fields, DNA acting as a transceiver, and the Gaia Hypothesis -- earth would never allow, nor develop a life form on this planet that would be detrimental to it's own survival. That's just nature -- it is intricate, yet simple and harmonious. So, something went awry ... but what?

Now, when we throw the Jaynes hypothesis, life in interstellar dust clouds (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=545791&viewfull=1#post545791), Jung, and memetics into the mix it makes for an interesting answer.

Our solar system is floating through a gigantic cloud of interstellar dust. These are two systems interacting with each other, there is an energetic exchange taking place between these two systems.


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Here's an excerpt from wikipedia:






The Local Bubble is a cavity in the interstellar medium (ISM) in the Orion Arm of the Milky Way which contains the Local Interstellar Cloud and G-cloud (as well as others). It is at least 300 light years across and has a neutral hydrogen density of about 0.05 atoms per cubic centimetre, or approximately one tenth of the average for the ISM in the Milky Way (0.5 atoms/cc), and one sixth of the "Local Fluff", or Local Interstellar Cloud (0.3 atoms/cc). The hot diffuse gas in the Local Bubble emits X-rays.

The very sparse, hot gas of the Local Bubble is the result of supernovae that exploded within the past ten to twenty million years. It was once thought that the most likely candidate for the remains of this supernova was Geminga ("Gemini gamma-ray source"), a pulsar in the constellation Gemini. More recently, however, it has been suggested that multiple supernovae in subgroup B1 of the Pleiades moving group were more likely responsible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Interstellar_Cloud

Then there's this excerpt from NASA:






The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist. In the Dec. 24th issue of Nature, a team of scientists reveal how NASA's Voyager spacecraft have solved the mystery.

"Using data from Voyager, we have discovered a strong magnetic field just outside the solar system," explains lead author Merav Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University. "This magnetic field holds the interstellar cloud together and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all."

Full article: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/23dec_voyager/

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Also, here's some important links on Plasma Oscillations and Landau Damping:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau_damping

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_oscillation

I elaborated more here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=599263&viewfull=1#post599263) about the energetic exchange between physical systems and their possibly correlating psychological counterparts (that was a mouthful).

Consider that the subtle realm of reality always has it's physical counterpart. Notably, this was observed by Jung and Pauli.


Lastly, I'd like to add this quote that I think pertains to post #2329 ...

It's from a book entitled, "Atom and Archetype: The Pauli/Jung Letters, 1932-1958."

Yes, Wolfgang Pauli and Carl Jung -- very cool.




The psyche…as a medium participates in both Spirit and
Matter. I am convinced that it (the psyche) is partly of a material
nature. The archetypes, for example, are Ideas (in the Platonic sense)
on the one hand, and yet are directly connected with physiological
processes on the other; and in cases of synchronicity they are
arrangers of physical circumstances, so that they can also be
regarded as a characteristic of Matter (as the feature which imbues it
with meaning). (pp. 100-01)

-Carl Jung

Remember in the Gnostic scriptures ...

From Wikipedia:




One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. Sophia (Greek: Σοφια, lit. “wisdom”), the Demiurge’s mother a partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or “Fullness,” desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him to be within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality.

The Demiurge, having received a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm: He frames the seven heavens, as well as all material and animal things, according to forms furnished by his mother; working however blindly, and ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all his energy. He is blind to all that is spiritual, but he is king over the other two provinces. The word dēmiourgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.

Thus Sophia’s power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

This is fascinating. Imagine the Demiurge being this natural form in space -- actual space.

The Demiurge is wrapped in a cloud. Interesting term -- reminds me of an interstellar dust cloud or even the local "cloud" of plasma that surrounds the earth right now. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=546704&viewfull=1#post546704)

Now, Sophia is Gaia and Her power to create lies within the resonance of the planet. Our own minds being a part of that creation, including this natural archetypal repository. A foreign energy, nearly inert in terms of consciousness (possibly pseudo-concsious as per the article about "alive" crystals and helices in space and EM fields somehow related to consciousness), leaks into our environment. At a subconscious level we identify it with a certain archetypal template. There it takes nest and broods. By the mechanisms of our own minds it develops and awakens to a perversely aware sense of being. Hijacking that source of creation doled out by Gaia/Sophia to Her homegrown humans. Now, Sophia has inadvertently created "something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent."

The abomination expropriated a part of Sophia/Gaia's creative power by engaging our minds like a parasitic symbiont.

The Demiurge develops and "sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation" ... Memetics, morphological resonance, collective unconscious, fractals, holons -- the foreign installation grows and replicates itself. He is "blind to all that is spiritual" and the reflection of this outwardly is humanity's cancer-like growth on the planet. Neglecting our Mother Earth.

He is "ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all of his energy."

Bicamerality is thereby broken in attempts to quarantine the abomination from our conscious thought and this isolates it in humanity's collective unconscious.

Humanity becomes trapped in materiality because the connection to the Spirit of the planet, to nature, was broken.

The Gnostic texts describe archontic forces casting their seed into the navel of the earth. Seeds grow (or possibly fester in this case). This could be a psychological, archetypal metaphor (for an invasive, foreign energy) or it could be a metaphor pertaining to panspermia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia) (see also: this link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=546576&viewfull=1#post546576)). The implications of either are equally intriguing.

There are many correlations between what I am describing here and the themes/motifs throughout the Gnostic texts and elements of the Bible. Which means ... more research!

So, I'll wrap this up with a quote from Edgar Cayce. He stated:




"Religion came into being: a ritual of longing for lost memories."

I think maybe it was because there would be a point in the future where we would be able to understand the metaphors (if that is indeed what they are) utilizing tangible concepts gleaned from scientifically observable phenomena (... where science and spirituality meet).

I think a new door then opens for innovative solutions once the problem is fully recognized and understood in all of it's aspects.

End thought experiment.

ADD/UPDATE:

I picture humanity's past bicameral connection to Gaia as being similar in effect to how the Navi operated in harmony with their planet, Pandora (in James Cameron's movie, Avatar). There are some neat parallels in that movie as well.

http://www.pandorapedia.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/508x284/navi_queue_1.jpg

Movie clip(s) to further the point ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjBCu4N8bxQ

[Jeffrey]

Human beings are on a journey of awareness, which has been momentarily interrupted by extraneous forces. -Carlos Castaneda


Continuing from previous posts #2320 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=596767&viewfull=1#post596767), #2325 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=597749&viewfull=1#post597749), #2326, #2327, #2329, #2340, #2342, and #2345 ...

John Lash writes:




"In Gnostic cosmology, Archons are a species of inorganic beings that emerged in the solar system prior to the formation of the earth. They are cyborgs inhabiting the planetary system (exclusive of the earth, sun and moon), which is described as a virtual world (stereoma) they construct by imitating the geometric forms emanated from the Pleroma, the realm of the Generators, the Cosmic Gods."

"The Archons are a genuine species with their own proper habitat, and may even be considered to be god-like, but they lack intentionality (ennoia: self-directive capacity), and they have a nasty tendency to stray from their boundaries and intrude on the human realm. Archons are said to feel intense envy toward humanity because we possess the intentionality they lack."

"In the Gnostic view of human society, the Archons are alien forces that act through authoritarian systems, including belief-systems, in ways that cause human beings to turn against their innate potential and violate the symbiosis of nature."

Source: http://www.examiner.com/article/archons-exorcising-hidden-controllers-with-robert-stanley-and-laura-eisenhower

Now, grind that against the thought experiment in post #2345.

Here is another segment of that same article:




Exploring archons in his new book, Wetiko: The Greatest Epidemic Sickness Known to Humanity, psychologist Paul Levy writes, "When people are infected by the wetiko virus, Forbes writes, they are “the host for the wetiko parasites.” The wetiko germ is a psychic tapeworm, a parasite of the mind. Just like certain computer viruses or malware infect and program a computer to self-destruct, mind-viruses like wetiko can program the human bio-computer to think, believe and behave in ways that result in our self-destruction. Wetiko is a virulent, psychic pathogen that insinuates thought-forms into our mind which, when unconsciously en-acted, feed it, and ultimately kills its host (us). It doesn’t want to kill us too quickly however, for to successfully implement its agenda of reproducing and propagating itself throughout the field, it must let the host live long enough to spread the virus. If the host dies too soon, the bug would be prematurely evicted and would suffer the inconvenience of having to find a new residence.

Mr. Levy continues, "Like a cancer of the mind that metastasizes, in wetiko disease, a pathological part of the psyche co-opts and subsumes all of the healthy parts of the psyche into itself so as to serve its pathology. To quote Jung, “an unknown ‘something’ has taken possession of a smaller or greater portion of the psyche and asserts its hateful and harmful existence undeterred by all our insight, reason, and energy, thereby proclaiming the power of the unconscious over the conscious mind, the sovereign power of possession.” The personality then self-organizes an outer display of coherence around this pathogenic core, which ‘masks’ the inner dysfunction, making it hard to recognize. In a psychic coup d’etat, the wetiko bug can usurp and displace the person, who becomes its puppet and marionette. Like a parasite, the wetiko virus can take over the will of an animal more evolved than itself, enlisting that creature into serving its nefarious agenda. Once the parasite becomes sufficiently entrenched within the psyche, the prime directive coordinating a person’s behavior comes from the disease, as it is now the one calling the shots. Just as someone infected with the rabies virus will resist drinking water, which would flush out the infection, someone taken over by the wetiko parasite will have nothing to do with anything that will help them get rid of the disease. Wetikos are phobic towards the light of truth, which they avoid like the plague. In advanced stages, this process takes over the person so completely that we could rightfully say the person is no longer there; they are just an empty shell carrying the disease. In a sense there is just the disease, operating through what appears to be a human being. The person becomes fully identified with their mask, their persona, but it is as if there is no one behind the mask."

[Side note: This could also account for SRA ...]

Now, with that in mind, consider the following ...


-- Begin thought experiment --

Keep in mind that long ago this foreign energy (i.e. archontic force) physically met our planet, and we also engaged it psychologically. Our repository of anthropomorphic, archetypal gods then became infected -- an infection that began distorting our complexes and virulently replicating itself in our collective unconscious. We were placed in a fog, a veil if you will.

The fall.

Our psyche became infected at a basal level, our bicameral instincts (there to preserve harmony and promote understanding) were compromised.

Now, lets look at the physical brain a little closer. There are a few areas in particular that I'm interested in that are associated with our subconscious plinth and our instincts. Namely, the basal ganglia, the cerebellum, the brain stem, and the amygdala.

Here is an excerpt from http://www.buffalostate.edu/orgs/bcp/brainbasics/triune.html:




The reptilian complex, also known as the R-complex or "reptilian brain" was the name MacLean gave to the basal ganglia, structures derived from the floor of the forebrain during development. The term derives from the fact that comparative neuroanatomists once believed that the forebrains of reptiles and birds were dominated by these structures. MacLean proposed that the reptilian complex was responsible for species typical instinctual behaviors involved in aggression, dominance, territoriality, and ritual displays.

Source: http://www.buffalostate.edu/orgs/bcp/brainbasics/triune.html

Here is another excerpt from Wikipedia:




Although the role of the basal ganglia in motor control is clear, there are also many indications that it is involved in the control of behavior in a more fundamental way, at the level of motivation. In Parkinson's disease, the ability to execute the components of movement is not greatly affected, but motivational factors such as hunger fail to cause movements to be initiated or switched at the proper times. The immobility of Parkinsonian patients has sometimes been described as a "paralysis of the will". These patients have occasionally been observed to show a phenomenon called kinesia paradoxica, in which a person who is otherwise immobile responds to an emergency in a coordinated and energetic way, then lapses back into immobility once the emergency has passed.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia

Another excerpt from www.science.howstuffworks.com




Lower animals, such as fish, amphibians, reptiles and birds, don't do much "thinking," but instead concern themselves with the everyday business of gathering food, eating, drinking, sleeping, reproducing and defending themselves.

These are instinctual processes. Therefore, their brains are organized along the major centers that control these functions.

We humans perform these functions as well, and so have a "reptilian" brain built into us. That means we have the same parts of the brain found in reptiles, namely the brain stem and the cerebellum.

http://www.thoughtfullearning.com/sites/default/files/brain_image.jpg

I'm thinking about what physiological area of the brain our natural, bicameral, psychological archetypes would be associated with.

This is the third time I've come back to this quote:




The psyche…as a medium participates in both Spirit and
Matter. I am convinced that it (the psyche) is partly of a material
nature. The archetypes, for example, are Ideas (in the Platonic sense)
on the one hand, and yet are directly connected with physiological
processes on the other; and in cases of synchronicity they are
arrangers of physical circumstances, so that they can also be
regarded as a characteristic of Matter (as the feature which imbues it
with meaning). (pp. 100-01 of Atoms and Archetypes: the Pauli/Jung Letters)

-Carl Jung

If the areas of our "reptilian" brain functioned as a main storehouse for instincts and archetypes, then wouldn't it follow to reason that any foreign seed that took root there would mature with reptilian characteristics?

Here is an excerpt from, The Human Brain, An Owners Manual:




Instinct is an impulse or powerful motivation from a subconscious source. For instance, if you were crossing the street and a car comes speeding towards you, you would try to jump out of the way before it even 'registers' with your conscious mind that a car is coming.

The part of your brain that is associated with these types of reactions is the amygdala. As you may know, different parts of the brain recieve different signals and make them consciously known. The auditory cortex, for example, is responsible for hearing. The amygdala has its own set of 'recievers' for sensory intake. In the aforementioned scenario, it will take in information from the surroundings, like the sight on the car coming at you, and make a decision on what to do before you consciously think about it.

While this response is very important for survival, it is very primitive. It's commonly called the fight or flight response, for obvious reasons. This response makes us "downshift" and use only our lower brain. That means we sometimes cannot think of a logical solution to a problem.

Source: http://library.thinkquest.org/C0114820/emotional/instinct.php3

Also, there is fear and the brain. Here is an excerpt from a PDF entitled, "The Emotional Brain, Fear, and the Amygdala" --->




However, with the accumulation of a great deal of empirical research, the amygdala has replaced the hypothalamus as the centerpiece of the subcortical networks involved in detecting and responding to threats. Thus, projections from the amygdala to the brainstem are involved in the expression of fear responses, and projections from the amygdala to the cortex are believed to contribute to the experience of fear and other cognitive aspects of emotional processing.

Still, it would be wrong to conclude that the field has not advanced since the early days. Clearly, we now know much more about how the fear system works. In addition to pinpointing the amygdala as a key structure in the processing of danger, much has been learned about how the amygdala accomplishes its job. The anatomical inputs to and outputs from the amygdala are understood in exquisite detail, as are the internal connections that mediate processing within the amygdala. Further, the nature of physiological encoding of fear situations by neurons within the amygdala is beginning to be understood as well.

Of the interactions of the amygdala with the "reptilian" brainstem (a possible instinctual repository of psychological archetypes, see also R-complex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain)) some could be the physiological counterpart to the psychical notion of negative energy feeding on fear.

From, Authoritative Teaching:




In this very way we exist in this world, like fish. The adversary spies on us, lying in wait for us like a fisherman, wishing to seize us, rejoicing that he might swallow us. For he places many foods before our eyes (things) which belong to this world. He wishes to make us desire one of them and to taste only a little, so that he may seize us with his hidden poison and bring us out of freedom and take us into slavery. For whenever he catches us with a single food, it is indeed necessary for us to desire the rest. Finally, then, such things become the food of death.

Now these are the foods with which the devil lies in wait for us. First he injects a pain into your heart until you have heartache on account of a small thing of this life, and he seizes (you) with his poisons. And afterward (he injects) the desire of a tunic, so that you will pride yourself in it, and love of money, pride, vanity, envy that rivals another envy, beauty of body, fraudulence. The greatest of all these are ignorance and ease.

Now all such things the adversary prepares beautifully and spreads out before the body, wishing to make the mind of the soul incline her toward one of them and overwhelm her, like a hook, drawing her by force in ignorance, deceiving her until she conceives evil, and bears fruit of matter, and conducts herself in uncleanness, pursuing many desires, covetousnesses, while fleshly pleasure draws her in ignorance.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/autho.html

The psycho-spiritual parasite lies in it's reptilian nest eliciting emotional responses by organizing circumstances in the subconscious mind to foster it's "food" ...

Here is an excerpt from, Alien Dreaming: The Enigma of the Archons




The Hypostasis of the Archons describes a further development that follows the initial emergence of the foetal Archontic entities. In the passage cited here, I apply some concepts drawn from modern astronomy to develop a more vivid picture of events presumably observed by Gnostic seers in the cosmos at large:



A veil exists between the world above [in the galactic core], and the realms that are below [exterior, in the galactic limbs]; and shadow came into being beneath the veil. Some of the shadow [dark mass] became [atomic] matter, and was projected apart [partially formed into elementary arrays, the dema]. And what Sophia created [B]became a product in the matter [the dema], [a neonate form] like an aborted fetus. And [once formed] it assumed a plastic shape molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, because it was from [neutral, inorganic] matter that it derived. (The Hypostasis of the Archons, II, 4, 93:30 ff, with my glosses in brackets.)

A close reading reveals a crucial detail: after the initial formation of the embryonic Archon types, a second variant of "shadow body" arises, with distinct characteristics of its own. The Hypostasis of the Archons describes it as "an arrogant beast resembling a lion," but this creature is also described (in another cosmological text, the Apocryphon of John 10: 5) as "a serpentine body (drakon) with a lion-like face." Thus there are two distinct types of Archons: a foetal or embryonic type, and a drakonic or reptilian type.

Source: http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienDreaming.php

From http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienDreaming.php




Fractal Visions

To the Coco de Mer icon we can now add a graphic variation to suggest how the Archons emerge from Sophia's Dreaming, like a leak from a placenta...

Sophia, situated in the center of the impact zone, sees around Her something like a sea of tensile waves, and riding the waves, or actually composing the waves they appear to ride, are self-repeating forms that resemble seashorses. These seahorses are similar to the forms that appear at high reiteration of the equation for the Mandelbrot Set. These forms correspond to the anatomical type spontaneously generated from formless atomic matter by Sophia's impact, a type called the "shadow body," haibes in Coptic.

The fractal formations described in the Gaia Mythos (Episodes 9 - 10) are actual physical phenomena that occur spontaneously when an Aeon (a mass-free, high-porosity current of stellar plasma) pours into the dense fields of elementary matter. At first these "fractal seahorses" seem to be inanimate structures, rigid and almost crystalline in nature, but by the very fact that Sophia beholds them, they become animated.

http://www.metahistory.org/images/ArchonMagn.jpg

[Sidenote: "leak from a placenta" reminds me of NASA's findings of alien matter leaking into our solar system, the placenta being the heliosphere or earth's magnetosphere. Also, look at crystalline, helical structures in space forming inside inorganic, interstellar dust clouds.*]

Now, here is the human ("reptilian") brainstem.




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Gray682.png/100px-Gray682.png

Microcosm to macrocosm -- the intruder fractally mimics it's new domain as it develops.

And then there's this ...

http://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/knuphishorus.jpg

Interesting.

Here are a few excerpts of interest from an article entitled, Fractal Brains, Fractal Thoughts:




Researchers from the University of Cambridge took a big step forward this year in understanding how our brains work. It seems that the brain has a fractal organization. This likely gives us much of what we consider human. And at a deeper level these findings may help to connect us in a very fundamental way to the rest of the natural world.

[...]

The study by Kitzbichler et al (2008) has added to much prior research suggesting that the brain exhibits fractal behavior. This makes a necessary link between the physical processes of the brain and each of the larger scale fractals we see in broader personality and social relationships. It is clear that biological, psychological and social dynamics are highly interlinked across scales, each impacting the other over time in myriad ways. With fractal organization at each of these scales, one may propose that they in some respects they are all part of the same fractal tree so to speak.

[...]

What I would prefer to speculate upon instead would be the broader implications. Indeed what these robust results within the brain suggest is a possible mechanism for the "Broadband Connectivity" we share with the rest of the natural world. Inasmuch as fractal dynamics in broadband synchronization exist at every scale of measurable reality - from quantum to cosmic, perhaps human consciousness is both simply and profoundly a portal through which such fractal connectivity flows. Perhaps the linkages that so effect our growth and integration at the biopsychosocial scales extend much deeper into the roots of matter, and much farther into the cosmos than modernist science has ever imagined. Science appears to be nearing a period of neo-vitalism, with scientifically grounded ways of exploring the attractive worldview of our root-civilizations - that everything in life is connected and that all of the universe is alive within these connections.

Full article here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=544797&viewfull=1#post544797

This post ties into the last several posts I've made on here.

I'm going to give my fingers a rest! :)


-- END --

* The following excerpts were taken from an article posted on www.astrobio.net


http://www.astrobio.net/includes/preview.php?gen=../images/banneralbum_images/Banneralbum_169.jpg&widthVal=450


Could extraterrestrial life be made of corkscrew-shaped particles of interstellar dust? Intriguing new evidence of life-like structures that form from inorganic substances in space are revealed in the New Journal of Physics. The findings hint at the possibility that life beyond Earth may not necessarily use carbon-based molecules as its building blocks.

[...]

Now, an international team has discovered that under the right conditions, particles of inorganic dust can become organized into helical structures. These structures can then interact with each other in ways that are usually associated with organic compounds and life itself.

V.N. Tsytovich of the General Physics Institute, Russian Academy of Science, in Moscow, working with colleagues there and at the Max-Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany and the University of Sydney, Australia, has studied the behavior of complex mixtures of inorganic materials in a plasma. Plasma is essentially the fourth state of matter beyond solid, liquid and gas, in which electrons are torn from atoms leaving behind a miasma of charged particles.

[...]

Quite bizarrely, not only do these helical strands interact in a counterintuitive way in which like can attract like, but they also undergo changes that are normally associated with biological molecules, such as DNA and proteins, say the researchers. They can, for instance, divide, or bifurcate, to form two copies of the original structure. These new structures can also interact to induce changes in their neighbours and they can even evolve into yet more structures as less stable ones break down, leaving behind only the fittest structures in the plasma.

So, could helical clusters formed from interstellar dust be somehow alive? "These complex, self-organized plasma structures exhibit all the necessary properties to qualify them as candidates for inorganic living matter," says Tsytovich, "they are autonomous, they reproduce and they evolve".

He adds that the plasma conditions needed to form these helical structures are common in outer space.

Read more here: Are Plasma Crystals Alive? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=545791&viewfull=1#post545791)


ADD/UPDATE:

Blend the content of this post with this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=601589&viewfull=1#post601589) one -- it makes for some great beard stroking.

[Jeffrey]

I have some more ideas to share! This is all speculative and exploratory, but I haven't posted this without using reason and discernment. With that in mind -- begin thought experiment.

According to the Gnostic scriptures, there are distinctions between the Spirit and the Soul. Keep in mind the "as above, so below" motto here. The Spirit is the masculine Father principle of the universe, while the Soul is the feminine Mother principle. She is the field in which life arises.

[Side note: There is also the subtle body, which is examined in the addendum.]

From, The Apocryphon of John:




And I asked to know it, and he said to me, "The Monad is a monarchy with nothing above it. It is he who exists as God and Father of everything, the invisible One who is above everything, who exists as incorruption, which is in the pure light into which no eye can look.

"He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him. For he does not exist in something inferior to him, since everything exists in him. For it is he who establishes himself. He is eternal, since he does not need anything. For he is total perfection. He did not lack anything, that he might be completed by it; rather he is always completely perfect in light. He is illimitable, since there is no one prior to him to set limits to him. He is unsearchable, since there exists no one prior to him to examine him. He is immeasurable, since there was no one prior to him to measure him. He is invisible, since no one saw him. He is eternal, since he exists eternally. He is ineffable, since no one was able to comprehend him to speak about him. He is unnameable, since there is no one prior to him to give him a name.

"He is immeasurable light, which is pure, holy (and) immaculate. He is ineffable, being perfect in incorruptibility. (He is) not in perfection, nor in blessedness, nor in divinity, but he is far superior. He is not corporeal nor is he incorporeal. He is neither large nor is he small. There is no way to say, 'What is his quantity?' or, 'What is his quality?', for no one can know him. He is not someone among (other) beings, rather he is far superior. Not that he is (simply) superior, but his essence does not partake in the aeons nor in time. For he who partakes in an aeon was prepared beforehand. Time was not apportioned to him, since he does not receive anything from another, for it would be received on loan. For he who precedes someone does not lack, that he may receive from him. For rather, it is the latter that looks expectantly at him in his light.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

The invisible Spirit exists as a monad, a point of infinity -- the singularity. The feminine principle exists on a cosmic scale as Barbelo.

Continuing from the same codex:




"And his thought performed a deed and she came forth, namely she who had appeared before him in the shine of his light. This is the first power which was before all of them (and) which came forth from his mind, She is the forethought of the All - her light shines like his light - the perfect power which is the image of the invisible, virginal Spirit who is perfect. The first power, the glory of Barbelo, the perfect glory in the aeons, the glory of the revelation, she glorified the virginal Spirit and it was she who praised him, because thanks to him she had come forth. This is the first thought, his image; she became the womb of everything, for it is she who is prior to them all ... "


The first power, Barbelo, surrounds the virginal Spirit (masculine singularity). It is this power that "became the womb of everything." There is an emerging theory in science which proposes that the shape of our universe is toroidal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doughnut_theory_of_the_universe).

http://www.sinequanonthebook.com/sitebuilder/images/horn_tor1_Med_1_-362x266.jpg

The Father -- or the Spirit -- is the center.

The Mother -- or the womb -- is the field of space that surrounds it.

This is also indicative of the yoni and the lingam in the Vedic traditions. The yoni represents the feminine, creative aspect of nature (the womb) while the lingam represents the masculine, creative aspect of nature (the phallus). Macrocosm to microcosm.

The yoni is a circular object and the linga is in the center.

http://www.crystalsrocksandgems.com/images3/SphatikLingamLabradoriteYoniBase.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Sun_symbol.svg/220px-Sun_symbol.svg.png

Consider this the template for the sub-systems that emerge in the cosmos.

As above, so below.

Now, consider a developing solar system. There is a star developing in the center.

This star creates a magnetic field.

[Side note: This field is gyrating, which creates vortices in the top and bottom -- the vortex is important too. I'll leave that for later.]

This magnetic field can be considered akin to a womb -- like a placenta.

http://moon.ap.teacup.com/kusagakubow/timg/middle_1354492778.jpg

Now, the star is also producing sounds. These sounds are extremely subtle.




The atomic processes within the atomic furnace of stars create sounds as a result of the high-energy collisions between atomic particles. These sounds cause the starlight to vary minutely, tiny modulations that can be detected by sensitive instrumentation, then demodulated, recreating the original sounds in the laboratory. Analysis of the star sounds can help asteroseismologists gain a better understanding of the atomic processes with a given star.

Source: http://www.cymascope.com/cyma_research/astrophysics.html

Extremely subtle sounds. This reminds me of the Logos -- the Word. Like the Om, or Aum.

Now there were also crystalline structures floating around in the swirling accretion disc. It could be that the location in which planets were "born" was influenced by the sounds coming from the sun. The dust began conglomerating in certain places, due to solar harmonics, and gravity took over from there.

Eventually, these developing planets produced a magnetic field of their own. They developed their own wombs.

The geomagnetic field of a particular planet contains a unique resonant frequency (http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q768.html).

It also had some of these helical, crystalline dust particles inside is geomagnetic field. Over time, the planet grew, densified, and solidified. Some form of these helical, crystalline structures stayed in the atmosphere and eventually ended up in the primordial waters of Gaia.

The egg has been fertilized.

Based on the principles of Sheldrake's morphogentic fields, these helical, crystalline structures received the base signal of the planet and transmitted it out in a fashion unique to there structure -- creating a field for form to follow. DNA is sensitive to electromagnetic fields, especially EMFs classified as being extremely low frequency (such as the Shumann Resonance).




DNA is a fractal antenna in electromagnetic fields.

The wide frequency range of interaction with EMF is the functional characteristic of a fractal antenna, and DNA appears to possess the two structural characteristics of fractal antennas, electronic conduction and self symmetry. These properties contribute to greater reactivity of DNA with EMF in the environment [...] as well as variations in the rate of chemical evolution in early geologic history.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21457072

[Side note: DNA also produces it's own EM field: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1012/1012.5166v1.pdf]

Due to the selection pressures of their environment, some helical structures persevered where others did not. Over time these helical structures came to be more complex. They contained a multitude of unique arrangements that broadcasted fields of variance to include the forms of the material structures that proved to be advantageous for survival.

A myriad of different species begins to flourish within the placenta of the planet.

Life begins to thrive and it's all due to the base signal being broadcasted by the planet. This is the gesticulation of Gaia.

This is Mother Nature.

Albeit these ideas are unorthodox, they are still in line with the principles of the theory of evolution. Yet, there are many problems with the theory of evolution.

So, since I am only drawing and not drawing conclusions, here's another sketch.

The earth is very old.

Let me rewind to the point were there was enough of a core to produce a magnetic field.

This core is crystalline (as described above). The matter of the core only takes up a small space compared to the cavity that it's field creates. Consider morphogenetic fields and helical, crystalline-like structures. Without producing material organisms these morphogenetic fields could have still been evolving without a full grown planet.

Imagine the crystalline core surrounded by a gigantic haze of dust. This is all enveloped in the magnetic field (i.e. the torus, the womb). The core is producing a resonant frequency and these helical, crystalline structures in the womb are receiving it, modulating it based on their individual structures, and projecting morphogenetic fields. This is an enclosed system. Within this system there are changes and interactions between developing sub-systems. An adaptive process is taking place before the planet even grows to maturity (i.e. grows in size, gains weight by gravitational processes -- pregnant women do gain weight, just an observation).




Complex adaptive systems are special cases of complex systems, often defined as a 'complex macroscopic collection' of relatively 'similar and partially connected micro-structures' – formed in order to adapt to the changing environment, and increase its survivability as a macro-structure.

They are complex; in that they are dynamic networks of interactions, and their relationships are not aggregations of the individual static entities. They are adaptive; in that the individual and collective behavior mutate and self-organize corresponding to the change-provoking micro-event or collection of events.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_adaptive_system


Eventually, an order is reached. A harmony if you will. A stable holoarchy has emerged within this field and learned to dance in harmony with the music of the sphere.

The morphogenetic constructs that persevered would be the templates for organic life (when the planet settles in to it's current size, and cools enough to allow the genesis of organic life).

These morphogenetic constructs can be likened to subtle bodies.* They would have some degree of conscious capacity and some level of will; but more than likely they would act as energetic programs, consciously playing their part in the harmony that had developed. They are entities of existence; there is little friction between them and the Source.

Now, fast forward. The planet reaches it's current size and cools enough for life to begin to develop. Very primitive life though -- I'm talking single-celled organisms. The morphological constructs might be there, but the bricks aren't going to be all in one spot. A fire is built with a little bit of tinder at first, then you can start putting sticks on it, and eventually logs.

Organic life begins to evolve.

So, the organisms with the the least complexity (DNA-wise) would have developed first. Progressively, as the necessity for complexity grew, morphological constructs that were similar in complexity were drawn in (i.e. the organism had the right bricks and mortar to build the appropriate house).

Driven at first by environmental selection pressures, organisms begin to adapt differently ... after reaching a new threshold of complexity the more appropriate morphogenetic construct is attracted to it and the phylogenetic tree begins to branch out.

Time marches on. Eventually, intricacy meets it's threshold.

Enter hominids.

Here is where the story takes a twist.

The Gnostics describe Sophia concocting a preemptive plan for humanity.




Then the authorities received the knowledge (gnosis) necessary to create man. Sophia Zoe - she who is with Sabaoth - had anticipated them. And she laughed at their decision. For they are blind: against their own interests they ignorantly created him. And they do not realize what they are about to do. The reason she anticipated them and made her own man first, was in order that he might instruct their modelled form how to despise them, and thus to escape from them.

Source: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

Sophia created her own man first. This was the first Adam. It was a morphological construct that had come about in the proto-planetary womb of Gaia.

From, On the Origin of the World, regarding the first Adam:




When they came to him, they said, "Is this not the god who ruined our work?" He answered and said, "Yes. If you do not want him [the first Adam] to be able to ruin our work, come let us create a man out of earth, according to the image of our body and according to the likeness of this being, to serve us; so that when he sees his likeness, he might become enamored of it. No longer will he ruin our work; rather,we shall make those who are born out of the light our servants for all the duration of this eternal realm." Now all of this came to pass according to the forethought of Pistis, in order that man should appear after his likeness, and should condemn them because of their modelled form. And their modelled form became an enclosure of the light.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

Okay, picture the crystalline core and the proto-planetary womb. Remember the haze of dust with helical, crystalline-like structures inside this womb (that is between the crystalline core and the magnetic field).

Imagine there is also foreign, inorganic, helical-like structures from a cloud of interstellar dust. I think this represents the "aborted fetus" attributed to the archons. The lion-faced serpent is symbolic of the morphological construct that developed out of these fetal-like, crystalline dust particles.

Some line of species begins to develop humanoid characteristics on the material earth. This species makes a suitable candidate for the morphological construct of the first Adam to "descend upon."

Instead, these early humans (maybe neanderthal-like) were exposed to the morphological construct of the archons. They then began to influence this early hominid to develop according to the image of their body, but according to the likeness (i.e. the morphological construct) of the first Adam.

From, On the Origin of the World:




And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him. He became a soul-endowed man. And he was called Adam, that is, "father", according to the name of the one that existed before him.

And when they had finished Adam, he abandoned him as an inanimate vessel, since he had taken form like an abortion, in that no spirit was in him.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

[Side note: The seven rulers maybe alluding to the seven chakras. This also has connotations that nod to the seven "demons" that preside over the seven chakras.]

The chief archon "fashioned the brain and the nervous system."

This correlation is almost too strong to ignore (see also the latter half of post #2358):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-83DrT6d4qLY/UF83cSYbEAI/AAAAAAAAFzI/-gSJQd3XSSk/s1600/KnuphisHorus.jpg

http://www.faqs.org/health/images/uchr_02_img0126.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yQmQ1ZvYAok/S9iPDX0h47I/AAAAAAAAB0o/MxepfFtrntI/s320/Clayman67e.jpg


The archon's morphological construct had abandoned the vessel (i.e. the physical body of the new human) once it finished influencing it's development (re-modeling the hominid). The archontic subtle body left the humanoid body (now Homo sapien).

From, Hypostasis of the Archons and The Apocryphon of John:




They had taken some soil from the earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had appeared to them in the waters. They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled" - not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness. [B]And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.

Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards, the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a living soul. It called his name Adam, since he was found moving upon the ground.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/hypostas.html




And when the mother wanted to retrieve the power which she had given to the chief archon, she petitioned the Mother-Father of the All, who is most merciful.

[...]

They advised him that they should bring forth the power of the mother. And they said to Yaltabaoth, 'Blow into his face something of your spirit and his body will arise.' And he blew into his face the spirit which is the power of his mother; he did not know (this), for he exists in ignorance. And the power of the mother went out of Yaltabaoth into the natural body, which they had fashioned after the image of the one who exists from the beginning. The body moved and gained strength, and it was luminous.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

I think the chief archons spirit is how his morphogenetic construct has concentrated the underlying field of the Spirit.*

Because of the field of the the feminine aspect of creation these fetal, crystalline, helical-like structures in space produced a morphogenetic construct. In other words, these foreign structures picked up a signal (similar to an EMF in physics) and projected in into a form (representative of a lion-faced serpent). This form, or morphogenetic construct, channeled the underlying masculine aspect of creation in a particular fashion. Symbolically this looks like a snake. This is the Spirit of the chief archon (read the addendum at the bottom of this post, and then re-read this paragraph). The Spirit (different from the soul), in any arrangement, is pure and cannot be tainted by any deviancy.

If the subtle body acts as a conduit for the Spirit, then the morphological construct of the chief archon has modulated the Spirit with the semblance of a snake.

This is the Kundalini -- the serpent power.

This brings me to my next post.

* The Gnostics make delineations between the Soul and the Spirit. There are different interpretations and speculations about how they differ.

Maybe the Spirit is the pervasive field that underlies all of reality (similar to the Higgs field in physics). When morphological constructs (i.e. subtle bodies) develop they modulate the flux of this field in certain respects. They divert the field in different ways; these morphogenetic constructs are akin to the Nadis in Yoga and/or the Meridians in Chinese medicine (see also: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/21850638/What-are-Nadis).

As these morphogenetic constructs evolve in complexity they direct and concentrate this underlying field of Spirit in varying degrees. Some constructs condense the field to a diluted solvency. While others condense it more potently.

There could be one pattern above all that proves to have the most efficacy at doing this -- it's morphogenetic field could be humanoid in nature. This may be the template for intelligent, self-aware beings in the cosmos.

Different types of "subtle bodies" would have dispersive amounts of Spirit moving in them. There is one type of morphogenetic construct in particular that is able to focus this universally pervasive field into a concentrated point. It's subtle design directs the dissipative Spirit like water through little canals, and guides it to a point of convergence -- the Spirit comes to light within the subtle body construct.

This point of convergence creates the Monad, like the one above on a cosmic level. This Monad in turn creates a toroidal field around it -- this is the Soul.

They all interact, but not necessarily in a hierarchical fashion. Rather, it is like a holoarchy.

Symbolically the Monad, or Spirit, would represent a tiny flame or a dense point of light. Which brings me back to the macrocosmic aspect of the Father. The cosmic lingam. The center of the torus.

This also makes me think about the symbology of the sacred heart with a flame inside of it.

http://lisagawlas.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/heart-electromagnetic_field1.jpg
See also: http://www.smeddum.net/images/articles/aura.jpg

The implications of the ideas suggested here have applications to a variety of topics.

Maybe some bells went off in your head while reading this.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c107.0.403.403/p403x403/59597_394876480588587_228417805_n.jpg

[Jeffrey]

There is another possibility I would like to explore in conjunction with the one above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=600820&viewfull=1#post600820). Another thought experiment. It has to do with the proto-planetary development of the solar system, morphogenic fields, EM fields relating to consciousness, human DNA, foreign/invasive energy, and panspermia.

[Side note: Houman, I hope I am not derailing the intended direction of this thread, but I do think this material belongs here. Please, PM me if you feel this information would be better suited for a separate thread -- I would be happy to comply. Thanks!]

Firstly, let's look at the current theory of how the solar system was formed.

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There are several stages to take note of:

1. It began as a diffuse cloud (possibly the remnants of a supernova explosion).

2. The cloud started to coalesce.

3. Matter began to collect more in the center (also at various peripheral places around the center) and the accretion disc started slowly spinning.

4. The denser spots grew and kept growing due to their swelling gravitational forces and over time the solar system developed into what it is today.


http://images.spaceref.com/news/2009/oogbtmolecules.titles.jpg


From www.universetoday.com




The Sun (and all the planets) started their lives in a giant cloud of cold molecular gas and dust. And then about 4.6 billion years ago, something bumped into the cloud, like the gravity from a passing star, or shockwaves from a supernova, causing the cloud to collapse. With the collapse, the mutual gravity from the particles in the cloud pulled together, and formed pockets of denser material in the cloud. These were star forming regions, and one of them was to become the Solar System.

Source: http://www.universetoday.com/18847/life-of-the-sun/


The "something [that] bumped into the cloud" could account for the metaphor of Sophia looking, and thereby animating that dark shadow moving in the waters (apparently Johannes Kepler equated gravity with the Holy Ghost (http://www.metahistory.org/GAIA%20SOPHIA/sacredecology/GaiaGnosisOne.php)).

Here is an excerpt from another one of the codices, The Apocryphon of John :




"And when she saw (the consequences of) her desire, it changed into a form of a lion-faced serpent. And its eyes were like lightning fires which flash. She cast it away from her, outside that place, that no one of the immortal ones might see it, for she had created it in ignorance. And she surrounded it with a luminous cloud, and she placed a throne in the middle of the cloud that no one might see it except the holy Spirit who is called the mother of the living. And she called his name Yaltabaoth."

The reference to a luminous cloud reminds me of either a dusty plasma cloud and/or or the early formation of our own sun. Specifically, consider the latter for a moment.

Here is an important excerpt from, The Apocryphon of John:




She united a luminous cloud with him. She placed a throne in the midst of the cloud so that no one might see him except the holy Spirit who is called Life, the mother of everyone {except the holy Spirit who is called the Mother of all the living}. And she named him Yaldabaoth. He is the Chief Ruler, the one who attained a great power from the Mother.

He removed himself from her. He abandoned the place in which he had been born. {He moved from place to place away from the place in which he had been born.} He seized another place. He created for himself an aeon, which blazes with a shining fire, in which he now dwells. {He created for himself an aeon of fiery, luminous flame, in which he now dwells.}


I am correlating the chief archon with the sun in our solar system. This also nods to the fact that Horus-Ra was an Egyptian sun god.

http://rlv.zcache.com/all_seeing_eye_eye_of_horus_postcard-p239394334237268977en8ki_216.jpghttp://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2004/12/all_seeing_eye.gif

Now, here is an excerpt from the codice -- On the Origin of the World -- from the Nag Hammadi.




Next, the ruler had a thought - consistent with his nature - and by means of verbal expression he created an androgyne. He opened his mouth and cooed to him. When his eyes had been opened, he looked at his father, and he said to him, "Eee!" Then his father called him Eee-a-o ('Yao'). Next he created the second son. He cooed to him. And he opened his eyes and said to his father, "Eh!" His father called him 'Eloai'. Next, he created the third son. He cooed to him. And he opened his eyes and said to his father, "Asss!" His father called him 'Astaphaios'. These are the three sons of their father.

Seven appeared in chaos, androgynous. They have their masculine names and their feminine names. The feminine name is Pronoia (Forethought) Sambathas, which is 'week'.

And his son is called Yao: his feminine name is Lordship.

Sabaoth: his feminine name is Deity.

Adonaios: his feminine name is Kingship.

Elaios: his feminine name is Jealousy.

Oraios: his feminine name is Wealth.

And Astaphaios: his feminine name is Sophia (Wisdom).

These are the seven forces of the seven heavens of chaos. And they were born androgynous, consistent with the immortal pattern that existed before them, according to the wish of Pistis: so that the likeness of what had existed since the beginning might reign to the end. You will find the effect of these names and the force of the male entities in the Archangelic (Book) of the Prophet Moses, and the names of the female entities in the first Book of Noraia.

Notice that there are seven androgenes. In the ancient world there was thought to be seven planets -- Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the Moon, and the Sun.

The Gnostic scriptures suggest that the chief archon "cooed" in order to bring about each of the seven androgenes. Now, during the formation of our solar system our sun is developing and proto-planetary objects are taking shape around it. Maybe where the planets began to form was based on the same principles underlying Cymatics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsjV1gjBMbQ).

The cooing could be a metaphor describing the sounds that the blossoming sun was projecting into the space around it. The planets merely formed around the areas of space where harmonics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic) formed.

I am not saying that the planets are bad; actually, the Nag Hammadi states that the androgenes were created "according to the wish of Pistis."

Here is the sound of the sun displayed visually.

http://cymatica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Sun2.jpg

Here is a link with more information about the "songs of stars" (I promise, you won't regret going through this link, it's incredible): http://www.cymascope.com/cyma_research/astrophysics.html

In this case, the sounds that the androgenes made back to the chief archon would correlate with the sounds of the planets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToXaNUjNfS4).

From, On the Origin of the World:




Now the prime parent Yaldabaoth, since he possessed great authorities, created heavens for each of his offspring through verbal expression - created them beautiful, as dwelling places - and in each heaven he created great glories, seven times excellent.

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The symbol for the sun is the ouroboros -- usually symbolized as a reptile/serpent-like form.

http://www.consciousentities.com/pictures/ouroboros.gif

Okay, moving on.

According to the gnostic texts, Sophia hid herself within the earth -- Sophia is Gaia, and holds Her creative power (think of Sheldrake's hypothesis).




"The Sophia herself is but a reflex of the "Mother of all living" and is therefore also called "Mother." She is the formatrix of heaven and earth, for as much as mere matter can only receive form through the light which, coming down from above has interpenetrated the dark waters of the hylē; but she is also at the same time the spiritual principle of life in creation, or, as the world-soul the representative of all that is truly pneumatic in this lower world: her fates and experiences represent typically those of the pneumatic soul which has sunk down into chaos."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)#As_world-soul


Again, while reading the following excerpts, keep in mind the work of Rupert Sheldrake regarding morphogenetic fields and modeled form (also, the resonance of the planet).

Excerpts from, The Apocryphon of John and On the Origin of the World:




And before Adam of Light had withdrawn in the chaos, the authorities saw him and laughed at the prime parent because he had lied when he said, "It is I who am God. No one exists before me." When they came to him, they said, "Is this not the god who ruined our work?" He answered and said, "Yes. If you do not want him to be able to ruin our work, come let us create a man out of earth, according to the image of our body and according to the likeness of this being, to serve us; so that when he sees his likeness, he might become enamored of it. No longer will he ruin our work; rather, we shall make those who are born out of the light our servants for all the duration of this eternal realm." Now all of this came to pass according to the forethought of Pistis, in order that man should appear after his likeness, and should condemn them because of their modeled form. And their modelled form became an enclosure of the light.

[...]

Then the authorities received the knowledge (gnosis) necessary to create man. Sophia Zoe - she who is with Sabaoth - had anticipated them. And she laughed at their decision. For they are blind: against their own interests they ignorantly created him. And they do not realize what they are about to do. The reason she anticipated them and made her own man first, was in order that he might instruct their modelled form how to despise them, and thus to escape from them.

[...]

And the man came forth because of the shadow of the light which is in him. And his thinking was superior to all those who had made him. When they looked up, they saw that his thinking was superior. And they took counsel with the whole array of archons and angels. They took fire and earth and water and mixed them together with the four fiery winds. And they wrought them together and caused a great disturbance. And they brought him (Adam) into the shadow of death, in order that they might form (him) again from earth and water and fire and the spirit which originates in matter, which is the ignorance of darkness and desire, and their counterfeit spirit. This is the tomb of the newly-formed body with which the robbers had clothed the man, the bond of forgetfulness; and he became a mortal man. This is the first one who came down, and the first separation. But the Epinoia of the light which was in him, she is the one who was to awaken his thinking.

I'm reading this and thinking about natural humans formed on earth by the Spirit of Gaia (i.e. morphogenetic field).

The archontic counterfeit spirit would be their own artificial field that distorts, disrupts, or attempts to substitute itself for the real Gaian field of morphology.

If this 'making of a new man' is a metaphor, it could correlate with panspermia. Somewhere along the way foreign DNA-like structures (from a local pseudo-conscious dust/plasma cloud) fell to the earth and became intermingled/inserted with/in the natural human's genetic code.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Snake_Egg.jpg

This foreign DNA (if DNA acts as a transceiver) picks up a different station than the one Gaia is broadcasting. It tunes into a foreign morphogenetic field (i.e. the counterfeit spirit). Also, it could interfere with the projections of our natural archetypal repository.

[Side note: Think about artificial selection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_selection) and bloodlines. Certain traits and characteristics could be intensified through keeping certain lineages within one another by selective breeding. This selectiveness of only a few traits would lead to a lack of genetic diversity and possibly create problems for this offshoot species. This makes me think of a motive for cannibalism and blood-drinking as an attempt to ingest more natural DNA in order to repair their own. This may be an instinctual urge since their instinctual faculties of mind have been utterly taken over by this foreign energy. This thought, carried out to an extreme, may account for the stories we here of people witnessing reptilian-like humanoids feeding on people. They could be/look human but they field they project (DNA being a transceiver) is more foreign than home grown so what we receive on a subconscious level appears reptilian in nature.]*

Again, from On the Origin of the World:




And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him. He became a soul-endowed man. And he was called Adam, that is, "father", according to the name of the one that existed before him.


Sounds like panspermia to me. It also says that they "fashioned the brain" and that makes me think of this picture (from my previous post) of the human, reptile-like brain stem compared to the "fractal visions" image and images from the Egyptian hieroglyphs:

http://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/archonmagn.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Gray682.png/100px-Gray682.pnghttp://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/knuphishorus.jpg

Humanity then evolves (over very few generations), or is newly created as a being that no longer possesses a bicameral mind.



"This is the first one who came down [the fall], and the first separation."

Separation ---> leading to a unicameral mind (Jaynes).

This is just scratching the surface, but hopefully it gets the gears turning.

Once again, I'm just playing with ideas here ... I realize some of the codices say different things. I'm just trying to look at it from different angles.

So, I'll wrap this up with a quote from Carl Jung. He stated:




"An archetypal content expresses itself, first and foremost, in metaphors."

[...]

"Wisdom is knowing in depth the great metaphors of meaning."




-Carl Jung

Here is the source for the Gnostic material that was quoted throughout the post - The Nag Hammadi Library Codex Index (http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlcodex.html)

*Concerning this caveat, here are some excerpts from another thread, posted by Bearcow (emphasis added):




For people who do not know what the po is, it is part of the astral body that regulates the animalistic functions of the human organism. IE breathing, hunger, sex drive etc. Addictions come about because the hunger of the Po becomes so strong that it overrides the higher functions of conscious mind and controls the behavior of the individual. If you want to label a part of your being/ego as being negative, this would be the place to start.

[...]

Now lets say you wanted to forever become part of the ruling class of this world. You would need to cut yourself off from the higher aspects of your being but still remain alive. You would need the Po to become so strong that it can live separately from the physical body and the higher self. Some of the things you can strengthen the po by ?

[...]

Everyone has a energetic connection to their ancestors, but those who are bred specifically in one genetic line, (IE inbreeding) have a stronger connection to their ancestors. Part of the reason the elite inbreed is that their ancestors have a easier time influencing their decision making processes. They can become slaves to the will of their fore bearers.



Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16906-Cult-of-Saturn

ADD/UPDATE:

I have just stumbled upon an article with some similar propositions here:

http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/PlanetPromise1.php

[Jeffrey]

From http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienDreaming.php




Fractal Visions

To the Coco de Mer icon we can now add a graphic variation to suggest how the Archons emerge from Sophia's Dreaming, like a leak from a placenta...

Sophia, situated in the center of the impact zone, sees around Her something like a sea of tensile waves, and riding the waves, or actually composing the waves they appear to ride, are self-repeating forms that resemble seashorses. These seahorses are similar to the forms that appear at high reiteration of the equation for the Mandelbrot Set. These forms correspond to the anatomical type spontaneously generated from formless atomic matter by Sophia's impact, a type called the "shadow body," haibes in Coptic.

The fractal formations described in the Gaia Mythos (Episodes 9 - 10) are actual physical phenomena that occur spontaneously when an Aeon (a mass-free, high-porosity current of stellar plasma) pours into the dense fields of elementary matter. At first these "fractal seahorses" seem to be inanimate structures, rigid and almost crystalline in nature, but by the very fact that Sophia beholds them, they become animated.

http://www.metahistory.org/images/ArchonMagn.jpg

[Sidenote: "leak from a placenta" reminds me of NASA's findings of alien matter leaking into our solar system, the placenta being the heliosphere or earth's magnetosphere. Also, look at crystalline, helical structures in space forming inside inorganic, interstellar dust clouds.*]

Now, here is the human ("reptilian") brainstem.




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Gray682.png/100px-Gray682.png

Microcosm to macrocosm -- the intruder fractally mimics it's new domain as it develops.

Interesting.




Sounds like panspermia to me. It also says that they "fashioned the brain" and that makes me think of this picture (from my previous post) of the human, reptile-like brain stem compared to the "fractal visions" image (there's also the images from the Egyptian hieroglyphs):

http://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/archonmagn.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Gray682.png/100px-Gray682.png

Humanity then evolves (over very few generations), or is newly created as a being that no longer possesses a bicameral mind.



"This is the first one who came down [the fall], and the first separation."

Separation ---> leading to a unicameral mind (Jaynes).


In the pictures of the human brain stem, the "head" is anatomically known as the thalamus.

In, The Apocryphon of John, the chief archon is said to have had a lions head and a serpents body.




"And he did not resemble the likeness of the Mother, for he had another form. As she deliberated, she saw that he had become modeled after a different likeness, having the face of a serpent and the face of a lion."

[...]

"And when she saw (the consequences of) her desire, it changed into a form of a lion-faced serpent."

Here is a relevant excerpt from Wikipedia:




In vertebrate anatomy the brainstem (or brain stem) is the posterior part of the brain, adjoining and structurally continuous with the spinal cord.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstem

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yQmQ1ZvYAok/S9iPDX0h47I/AAAAAAAAB0o/MxepfFtrntI/s320/Clayman67e.jpghttp://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/knuphishorus.jpg

Notice the similarity between the brain stem and the object inside the head of the figure in the hieroglyph.

The thalamus is tucked under, and partly surrounded by the corpus callosum.

Now, this next part is really going to bake your noodle. A lion's mane could, in the subconscious language of symbols, represent the axonal projections from the corpus callosum.

From Wikipedia:




The corpus callosum (Latin: tough body), also known as the colossal commissure, is a wide, flat bundle of neural fibers beneath the cortex in the eutherian brain at the longitudinal fissure. It connects the left and right cerebral hemispheres and facilitates interhemispheric communication. It is the largest white matter structure in the brain, consisting of 200–250 million contralateral axonal projections.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_callosum




Corpus Callosum is the main interhemispheric commisure of the brain consisting of approximately 180 million fibers, most of which connect homologous cortical areas. Corpus Callosum is a structure that is of interest when searching for the morphological bases of the brain’s laterality. It is also thought to play an important role in organizing auditory stimuli and in language perception.

Source (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9ae7dDIq8DEJ:citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download%3Bjsessionid%3DAE6BCCE22C3CCE712B427CCFFABD5162%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.40.5728%26rep%3Drep1%26type% 3Dps+Corpus+Callosum+is+a+structure+that+is+of+interest+when+searching+for+the+morphological+bases+o f+the+brain’s+laterality.&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Here is a diffusion MRI of there area of the brain being discussed.

http://neuroanthropology.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/schultz-thalamus-diffusion-tensor.jpg?w=300&h=277

Now let's turn to the Bicameral Mind Theory.




This externalized self was a consequence of the split between the two halves of the brain. Jaynes suggests that the left and right brains were not integrated—"unicameral"—they way they are today. Rather, the ancient brain was "bicameral," with the two brains working essentially independently of each other. The left half of the brain, the logical, language-using half, generated ideas and commands, which the right brain then obeyed. These commands were subjectively perceived by the right brain as coming from "outside"—as if a god was speaking.

Source: http://deoxy.org/alephnull/jaynes.htm

The corpus callosum functions as the bridge creating a unicameral brain. The lion's head represents the thalamus and corpus callosum (with the millions of contralateral axonal projections being the lion's mane). The serpentine body being the spinal cord/nerves. Below is the Gnostic depiction of Yaldabaoth compared with the spinal cord and the brain (the spinal cord leads into the reptilian brain stem):

http://misteriosantigos.50webs.com/regente_chefe_yaldabaoth.jpghttp://www.faqs.org/health/images/uchr_02_img0126.jpg

The function of the corpus callosum has very similar correlations to what Jaynes describes happened when the mind went unicameral. It also ties into the archontic effects of putting humanity under a "veil" of ignorance.

Here are some more excerpts from www.metahistory.org




archetype - From Latin, “primordial or original pattern.” A term widely associated with the psychological theories of C. G. Jung, although it does not originate with him.

The Jungian conception of the archetype is almost identical with the notion of instinct in biology. It could be said that the archetypes in the human psyche are directive patterns, comparable to instincts in other species.

[...]

In Gnostic psychology, the noetic science of the Mystery Schools, Archons are an alien force that intrudes subliminally upon the human mind and deviates our intelligence away from its proper and sane applications. They are not what makes us act inhumanely, for we all have the potential to go against our innate humanity, violating the truth in our hearts, but they make us play out inhumane behavior to weird and violent extremes. Left to our own devices, we would sometimes act inhumanely and then correct it, contain the aberration. Obviously, we do not always do so. In the exaggeration of our insane and inhumane tendencies, and in extreme, uncorrected deviance from our innate intelligence, Gnostics saw the signature of an alien species that piggy-backs on the worst human failings.

Hence, Archons are psycho-spiritual parasites. Yet as offspring of the Aeon Sophia, they are also our cosmic kin.

As inorganic entities of two types, embryonic and reptilian [...] they exist both as an alien species independent of humankind, and as a presence in our minds, rather like a set of programs operating in our mental environment. The risk they pose by invading our mental software is far greater than any physical risk they might pose by erratically breaching the biosphere.

[...]

Our capacity to discern alien forces working in our minds is crucial to survival and co-evolution with Gaia who, as Sophia, accidentally produced the Archons in the first place [...] By recognizing and repelling the Archons, we claim our power, define our boundaries in the cosmic framework, and establish our purpose relative to Gaia, the indwelling intelligence of the planet.

I have more thoughts about this and the UFO/alien abduction phenomena (see also: http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienIntrusion.php). Especially considering these ideas and the function(s) of the thalamus (and other areas associated with the brain stem):




The thalamus is involved in several functions of the body including:



• Motor Control
• Receives Auditory, Somatosensory and Visual Sensory Signals
• Relays Sensory Signals to the Cerebral Cortex
• Controls Sleep and Awake States

Source: http://biology.about.com/od/anatomy/p/thalamus.htm

Now, after reading this post, go back over post #2348 and the latter half of post #2358. Interesting ...

I'm also thinking about the kundalini in light of this information.

[Jeffrey]

This is a follow up on post #2367 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=602702&viewfull=1#post602702) --->

I have to break this into three posts (maybe two). There are many references to trees in the Nag Hammadi. They are probably allusions. Keep in mind my last couple of posts.

From, On the Origin of the World:




After that Eros, the grapevine sprouted up out of that blood, which had been shed over the earth. Because of this, those who drink of it conceive the desire of sexual union. After the grapevine, a fig tree and a pomegranate tree sprouted up from the earth, together with the rest of the trees, all species, having with them their seed from the seed of the authorities and their angels.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

Imagine the blood being symbolic of panspermia. Remember in the story from the last post:


It [the womb of the earth] also had some of these helical, crystalline dust particles inside is geomagnetic field. Over time, the planet grew, densified, and solidified. Some form of these helical, crystalline structures stayed in the atmosphere and eventually ended up in the primordial waters of Gaia.

Imagine the structures eventually ending up on land. Similar to red rain (http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/panspermia-theorists-say-indias-red-rain-contains-life-not-seen-on-earth/story-fn5fsgyc-1225913620448) (blood red). It doesn't have to be exactly like I described.

Now, the "grapevine sprouted out of that blood." One of the first systems to develop in the human embryo is the nervous system. The grapevine could be a metaphor for the peripheral nervous system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_nervous_system).

http://ykonline.yksd.com/distanceedcourses/Courses/Biology/lessons/ThirdQuarterLessons/Chapter08/8-5/images/NervousSystem.gif

The vines are the nerves. The grapes could possibly represent the cell bodies of the nerve fibers.

On the other hand, the grapevine could represent the lymphatic system. The vines are the lymphatic vessels and the grapes are the lymph nodes. This metaphor may be more appropriate.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Lymphatic_system.png

Then, after the grapevine, a fig tree and a pomegranate tree sprouted up.

The fig tree represents the circulatory system. The branches are the blood vessels that meander throughout the body, and the fig itself is symbolic of the heart.

http://up.graaam.com/uploads/imag-6/upload0e97068e10.jpghttp://www.sagretoscane.com/_data/upload/image/fico.jpg

Now, the pomegranate tree represents the lungs -- the respiratory tree. The lungs branch out into bronchi and bronchioles. The fruit of the lungs are the alveoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_alveolus) (sacs). These resemble pomegranates.

http://www.freewebs.com/soaring_sphincter_travel_agency/Alveolar%20sac.gifhttp://blog.thefruitcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pomegranate-470-300x300.jpg

The rest of the "species of trees" is a metaphor alluding to the rest of the body's biological systems.

The next post will be about the Tree of Knowledge, the Tree of (eternal) Life, and the archontic tree of life.

[Jeffrey]

Continuing from, On the Origin of the World:




Then Justice created Paradise, being beautiful and being outside the orbit of the moon and the orbit of the sun in the Land of Wantonness, in the East in the midst of the stones. And desire is in the midst of the beautiful, appetizing trees. And the tree of eternal life is as it appeared by God's will, to the north of Paradise, so that it might make eternal the souls of the pure, who shall come forth from the modelled forms of poverty at the consummation of the age. Now the color of the tree of life is like the sun. And its branches are beautiful. Its leaves are like those of the cypress. Its fruit is like a bunch of grapes when it is white. Its height goes as far as heaven. And next to it (is) the tree of knowledge (gnosis), having the strength of God. Its glory is like the moon when fully radiant. And its branches are beautiful. Its leaves are like fig leaves. Its fruit is like a good appetizing date. And this tree is to the north of Paradise, so that it might arouse the souls from the torpor of the demons, in order that they might approach the tree of life and eat of its fruit, and so condemn the authorities and their angels. The effect of this tree is described in the Sacred Book, to wit: "It is you who are the tree of knowledge, which is in Paradise, from which the first man ate and which opened his mind; and he loved his female counterpart and condemned the other, alien likenesses and loathed them."

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

The Tree of eternal Life represents the higher functioning brain. Paradise is in the brain (but I think it may be the lower functioning brain) and the morphogenetic construct of the mind.

The neurons of the brain branch out like a tree and like the veins of a leaf.




A typical neuron possesses a cell body (often called the soma), dendrites, and an axon. Dendrites are thin structures that arise from the cell body, often extending for hundreds of micrometres and branching multiple times, giving rise to a complex "dendritic tree".

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron

The branches of the Tree of Life represent the scaffolding of the neocortex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocortex) (which is latin for "new bark"). The neocortex is dominated by "neuronal cell bodies and unmyelinated fibers" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocortex#Anatomy) while the archontic tree of life ends with the axonal projections of the thalamus and the corpus callosum. The dendritic trees of neuronal cell bodies (http://healinghaven.typepad.com/photos/fillmores_12_power/dendritic-tree.html) in the neocortex are analogous to cyprus leaves (referencing the Tree of eternal Life). The images shown below are the neuronal dendrites and cypress leaves (bottom).

http://nirmukta.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/4.png

http://healinghaven.typepad.com/photos/fillmores_12_power/dendritic-tree.gif

http://hollistonreporter.com/pix/articles/2012/02/Microbiota_Leaves_.JPG

From, The Apocryphon of John:




And the archons took him and placed him in paradise. And they said to him, 'Eat, that is at leisure,' for their luxury is bitter and their beauty is depraved. And their luxury is deception and their trees are godlessness and their fruit is deadly poison and their promise is death. And the tree of their life they had placed in the midst of paradise.

And I shall teach you (pl.) what is the mystery of their life, which is the plan which they made together, which is the likeness of their spirit. The root of this (tree) is bitter and its branches are death, its shadow is hate and deception is in its leaves, and its blossom is the ointment of evil, and its fruit is death and desire is its seed, and it sprouts in darkness. The dwelling place of those who taste from it is Hades, and the darkness is their place of rest.

Source: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

This is different from the Tree of (eternal) Life because it is of the counterfeit spirit.

[Side note: to really appreciate the content of this post, I recommend reading post #2348 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=600820&viewfull=1#post600820) and post #2360 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=601981&viewfull=1#post601981).]

The tree being described here could be the equivalent of the subtle body of the demiurge. Which corresponds physically to the reptile-like brain stem and the spinal cord.




Together, these parts—the brain stem, cerebellum, and basal ganglia—are casually referred to as your “lizard brain.”

[...]

The human brain includes many regions that evolved long ago. Our older “lizard brain” parts keep our bodies working and provide basic survival motivations ...

Source: http://www-v1.amnh.org/exhibitions/brain/emotional_lizardbrain.php

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain

So, the head of the demiurge represents the thalamus. The lion's mane and the crown (or the corona of the sun in another depiction) is symbolic of the axonal projections of the thalamus and the corpus callosum. The serpentine body is indicative of the spinal cord.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cVrbkTz6oMQ/TnO1EjFjqzI/AAAAAAAADag/Y2h9zf2TllY/s1600/carl12.jpg

In a diffusion MRI of the lower brain, the nerve fibers of the thalamus and corpus callosum project outwardly. This represents the lion's mane and crown. The axonal projections also represent the branches of the tree top of the archontic tree of life (the top of a tree is known as the crown).

The roots of the tree represent the root of the spinal cord and the coccygeal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccyx) nerves (in the tailbone).

http://www.ionmedicaldesigns.com/ion_site/images/gallery_images/lumbosacral_plexus_thumb.jpg

Now, the Tree of Knowledge and the archontic tree of life are nearly synonymous with respects to location, but quite the opposite terms of meaning.

The fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is an allusion that references a gland.

That gland "is like a good appetizing date."

http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/bwf211/bwf2111011/bwf211101100053/8172883-a-single-pitted-date-on-a-white-background.jpg

This, I believe, is describing the pineal gland (see post #15 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53625-The-Psyche-Metaphors-of-Meaning&p=606434&viewfull=1#post606434)).

Now, the fruit of the archontic life is an apple (the reference to an apple isn't in the Nag Hammadi).

The apple could represent the pituitary gland. Notice how the pituitary gland resembles an apple.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4587743137629144&pid=1.9http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aNvjrKv84_8/Shr0y88B4EI/AAAAAAAAAZA/XPS-Vdaos8w/s400/pitutary+gland.jpg

This gland hangs from a stalk connected to the hypothalamus. Just like the apple hangs from "their" tree of life.

http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~jaliff/brastem2.gif

The pituitary gland is also known as the master gland of the body.

This gland also controls the thyroid gland, which is closely associated with the anatomical "Adam's Apple."

The secretion of this gland (it's "seed") is one of the primary drivers that maintains our sexual differentiation -- the biological male and female. Consequentially, the physiology of this gland corresponds to our sexual desire.




Hormones are powerful chemical substances manufactured by the endocrine glands and secreted directly into the bloodstream.

[...]

The most important sex hormones are testosterone (one of a group of hormones called androgens) and estrogens and progesterone. The thyroid, the adrenals, and the pituitary are examples of endocrine glands.

[...]

The pituitary gland and a closely related region of the brain, the hypothalamus, are also important, because the hypothalamus regulates the pituitary, which regulates the other glands, in particular the testes and ovaries. Because of its importance, the pituitary has been called the master gland of the endocrine system.

Source: http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/dl/free/0072986360/238525/hyd86360_ch05.pdf

This intrigues me because certain codices describe the first beings as having androgynous characteristics, and the pineal gland (the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge) secretes melatonin, which at high levels is known to inhibit sexual development. After Adam and Eve ate the from the apple they realized they were naked. In other words, they had developed male and female genitalia.

After the fall, the seed of desire was sown in mankind ---> the seeds of the apple being the secretions of the pituitary gland. Two houses are created. The biological male and female. Copulation is now a requisite for reproduction.

There is a lot more that can come of these connections.




“There is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the groundwork of the human psyche. It is only possible to live the fullest life when we are in harmony with these symbols; wisdom is a return to them.” – Carl Jung

ADD/UPDATE: It is very possible that the Tree of Knowledge represents the cerebellum.

[Jeffrey]

This is a followup on post #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53625-The-Psyche-Metaphors-of-Meaning&p=606400&viewfull=1#post606400).

For ease of writing, I have left out many words indicating that I am merely presenting ideas here. These aren't opinions, facts, or even speculation. I am just painting.

I think detailing the differences between a "Soul" and a "Spirit" can be very advantageous when attempting to decipher metaphors in religious and spiritual texts. Both terms have been inextricably tangled with regards to their definitions.

I think they have certain correlations with electromagnetism (i.e. they behave similarly), but that isn't a characteristic that solely defines them. A magnet has a magnetic field, but surely that can't be considered a Soul.

From, The Apochryphon of John:




Now the first Adam, (Adam) of Light, is spirit-endowed and appeared on the first day. The second Adam is soul-endowed and appeared on the sixth day, which is called Aphrodite. The third Adam is a creature of the earth, that is, the man of the law, and he appeared on the eighth day ...

[...]

And the progeny of the earthly Adam became numerous and was completed, and produced within itself every kind of scientific information of the soul-endowed Adam. But all were in ignorance.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

The first Adam could represent the first morphological construct (i.e. subtle body). He is "spirit-endowed" and he was the first to appear naturally in the womb of Gaia. It is interesting that "Adam" and "atom" are similar. The etymology of the first word meaning something like "of the earth" and the essence of the second word is "indivisible particle" (source: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Adam#Etymology, http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=atom). The amalgamation of these two terms seems to describe the first Adam adequately.

:)

Another description of the first Adam from, On the Origin of the World:




Since that day, that emissary has been called "Adam of Light," whose rendering is "the luminous man of blood," and the earth spread over him, holy Adaman, whose rendering is "the Holy Land of Adamantine."

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

Blood derives from word(s) meaning to gush, spurt, or bloom (source: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=blood). The luminous blood would be analogous to the idea that the field of energy emanating from the core of the earth (i.e. the Monad/Spirit of Gaia) is gushing through the ducts of a morphological construct that took shape in the womb of the world. This energy is channeled into a point, or indivisible particle, which would in turn be the Monad for that being. That point produces a toroidal field around it. This can be considered a spiritual Soul. It is a microcosmic production that reflects macrocosmic pattern above it.

It is possible that there are two types of souls being described in the codices.

Consider that a moving electrical charge produces a magnetic field. Now, consider that there is a pervasive "spiritual" cache (possibly akin to the Higgs field in physics) that underlies the physical universe. This would be like a placid lake -- calm, undisturbed, and wealthy in it's stillness. This is the nature of this invariable, Spiritual field.

Now, the universe is in motion. It is active.

In physics, when a charged body is in motion it produces a magnetic field.

There are constructions whose architecture is extremely subtle -- subtle enough to act as a causeway for this Spiritual field. Not that the field is moving, rather these subtle constructs are moving through the field. This creates a current that flows through the field (in reality, the construct is flowing through the placid field) -- this flow is akin to Prana, Chi, or Ki (http://yogaopenspace.com/recent-post/answer11/).

So, these subtle causeways divert and direct this Spiritual reservoir (infinite, immutable, and adamantine) -- and a field is thereby produced. This might be considered a soul. It is more like an aura than a Spiritual Soul (which is created by a microcosmic Monad).

When the subtle causeway (i.e. morphogenetic constructs) diverges this (Spiritual) energy into a point of convergence then a pure Soul is created. This is the torus -- it is a Spiritual Soul. It springs forth from the Monad.

In Vedanta, there is the Paratman and the Jivatman.




Generally there is a great misunderstanding about the characteristics of the individual soul and Supersoul, or jiva-atma and param-atma.

Some transcendentalists claim that the soul and Supersoul are absolutely one and the same whereas others claim them to be different.

The truth, however, is that the individual soul and Supersoul are two different entities which are similar in their spiritual natures but distinct in their quantitative function.

Jiva-atma, or the individual soul, refers to the living entity which is embodied in a physical form, produced by material nature.

[...]

In the Upanisads it is explained that there are two types of souls which are technically known as jiva-atma and param-atma. Jiva-atma, or the individual soul, is the living entity and param-atma refers to the Supreme Lord who expands Himself as the Supersoul, who enters into the hearts of all living entities as well as all atoms.

Source: http://www.yoga-philosophy.com/eng/2souls.htm

The living soul can be regarded as auric in nature. Such is the case with Kirlian photography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography) (Kirlian techniques are controversial).

http://jadeacademy.org/imagePalp/Kirlian_photograph_depicting_a_human_aura-SPL-2.jpg

Not only would biological entities produce this "auric" soul, but subtle energy constructs would as well (due to the moving currents within them).

This type of soul could be susceptible to change based on it's environment. In other words, it can be affected.

Okay, back to the Gnostic texts.

From, On the Origin of the World:




And before Adam of Light had withdrawn in the chaos, the authorities saw him and laughed at the prime parent because he had lied when he said, "It is I who am God. No one exists before me." When they came to him, they said, "Is this not the god who ruined our work?" He answered and said, "Yes. If you do not want him to be able to ruin our work, come let us create a man out of earth, according to the image of our body and according to the likeness of this being, to serve us ...

[...]

And when they had finished Adam, he abandoned him as an inanimate vessel, since he had taken form like an abortion, in that no spirit was in him. Regarding this thing, when the chief ruler remembered the saying of Pistis, he was afraid lest the true man enter his modelled form and become its lord. For this reason he left his modelled form forty days without soul, and he withdrew and abandoned it. Now on the fortieth day, Sophia Zoe sent her breath into Adam, who had no soul. He began to move upon the ground. And he could not stand up.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

There is also this version from, Apochryphon of John:




And when the mother wanted to retrieve the power which she had given to the chief archon, she petitioned the Mother-Father of the All, who is most merciful. He sent, by means of the holy decree, the five lights down upon the place of the angels of the chief archon. They advised him that they should bring forth the power of the mother. And they said to Yaltabaoth, 'Blow into his face something of your spirit and his body will arise.' And he blew into his face the spirit which is the power of his mother; he did not know (this), for he exists in ignorance. And the power of the mother went out of Yaltabaoth into the natural body, which they had fashioned after the image of the one who exists from the beginning. The body moved and gained strength, and it was luminous.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT]

Alright, this is a bit confusing.

According to one account, the demiurge persisted in blowing into the second Adam to no avail. The breath, in Yogic traditions, is also called prana. It is known as the breath of life, or vital energy that gushes through the Nadis (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranayama). Yet, in another account the demiurge breathed something of the spirit (that is his mother) into Adam. Then, "the body moved and gained strength, and it was luminous."

The power of the Mother is represented by a circle. The Father is the point within the circle. Together they give meaning to each other. The demiurge is incomplete, and made "without the consent of the Father." Think of an incomplete circle -- it is essentially a line (maybe not straight; also, it cannot contain a point).

Therefore, in the symbolic language of the subconscious, the power of the Mother in the demiurge is the serpent. While the demiurge himself is serpentine in form. This could be the confusion of many debates regarding the serpent. One one side, the serpent is malevolent (the demiurge). On the other, the serpent is a source of wisdom and power (the Mother, Sophia). It really makes you think.

Either way, the Gnostic texts state that it was the spiritual essence of the Mother that went into the second Adam. It is irrelevant whether it came from the demiurge or not because it was pure.

From, Hypostasis of the Archons:




And he [demiurge] breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.

Now all these things came to pass by the will of the father of the entirety. Afterwards, the spirit saw the soul-endowed man upon the ground. And the spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land; it descended and came to dwell within him, and that man became a living soul.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/hypostas.html

Now, the spirit flows through the second Adam (producing a luminous aura). This creates a living soul - the Jivatman.

So, the spirit came to dwell within the soul-endowed man. This could be referring to the flowing "prana" converging into a point. The Spirit came forth from the Adamantine Land. This term, adamantine, means unbreakable.

This produces a Monad, which creates the Spiritual Soul. This is the Paratman (oversoul, super-soul) which springs forth from the heart of the Jivatman.

[Side note: There are still some things to clarify regarding this, but I have spent enough time thinking about it already. If something inspires me (through further reading, or through another members insights) I will come back to edit this.]

The second, now soul-endowed Adam is also known as Aphrodite -- the goddess of love. This alludes to the Spirit coming to light within the heart of the second Adam.

This would be the Anahata in Yoga -- the heart chakra.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Chakra04.gif

From Wikipedia:




Anahata is considered the seat of the Jivatman, and Para Shakti. In the Upanishads, this is described as being like a tiny flame that resided inside the heart.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anahata

[Side note: some sources say it is the seat of the Paratma. Ramakrishna says there really is no difference. Like I said, it's tangled.]

The flame (divine spark, Monad) in the sacred heart would be the Bana linga.

According to Yogic traditions, the Bana linga is located in the heart chakra.

Now, "the third Adam is a creature of the earth." A creature, an animal.

I believe, the earth in this context could mean the physical world.

This is Adam represents the material root of humanity. This could symbolize the basal, biological connection we share with the physical planet.

It is associated with biological reproduction. The third Adam had offspring that populated the earth.

I think this Adam alludes to the Muladhara, or root chakra.




Muladhara is the root centre of physical experience, located at the base of the spine, the sacral plexus.

Source: http://www.tantra-kundalini.com/muladhara.htm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Chakra01.gif

Located in the Muladhara is the Svayambhu Linga.

So, now we have two lingas in the body. One represents the "permanent atom" in the heart, and the second represents the third, basal Adam (a creature of the earth).

There is another linga according to Yogic traditions -- the Itara Linga. It is located in the Ajna, or third-eye chakra.

There is another thing to take note of. The first natural, morphogenetic constructs that developed were androgynous in form, but there were feminine and masculine aspects of these constructs.

Adam of Light is the masculine aspect. The Gnostic scriptures also reference a feminine aspect of these forms. It's a tad convoluted, but her name is Epinoia of Light. She is also known as Eve of Life and Sophia Zoe.

From, The Apochryphon of John and On the Origin of the World:




But the blessed One, the Mother-Father, the beneficent and merciful One, had mercy on the power of the mother which had been brought forth out of the chief archon, for they (the archons) might gain power over the natural and perceptible body. And he sent, through his beneficent Spirit and his great mercy, a helper to Adam, luminous Epinoia which comes out of him, who is called Life. And she assists the whole creature, by toiling with him and by restoring him to his fullness and by teaching him about the descent of his seed (and) by teaching him about the way of ascent, (which is) the way he came down. And the luminous Epinoia was hidden in Adam, in order that the archons might not know her, but that the Epinoia might be a correction of the deficiency of the mother.

[...]

Then Eve, being a force, laughed at their decision. She put mist into their eyes and secretly left her likeness with Adam. She entered the tree of knowledge and remained there. And they pursued her, and she revealed to them that she had gone into the tree and become a tree.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html, http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

Remember, the third-eye represents the pineal gland. This is the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.

http://reikirays.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Indigo-Chakra-360x300.jpg

From, On the Origin of the World:




Now the production of the instructor came about as follows. When Sophia let fall a droplet of light, it flowed onto the water, and immediately a human being appeared, being androgynous. That droplet she molded first as a female body. Afterwards, using the body she molded it in the likeness of the mother, which had appeared. And he finished it in twelve months. An androgynous human being was produced, whom the Greeks call Hermaphrodites; and whose mother the Hebrews call Eve of Life (Zoe), namely, the female instructor of life.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

The Ajna chakra is described as having androgynous characteristics (http://www.tantra-kundalini.com/ajna.htm), and it is the home of the shining white Itara Linga.

The female instructor of life is described as having androgynous characteristics.

I will come back to edit and clean up this post later... there is more. Again, these are just ideas and I always have my eraser handy ... If anything, hopefully they get the creative juices flowing. I'd put this post on the back burner for now, I will tie back into it later.

[Jeffrey]

The fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is an allusion that references a gland.

That gland "is like a good appetizing date."

http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/bwf211/bwf2111011/bwf211101100053/8172883-a-single-pitted-date-on-a-white-background.jpg

This, I believe, is describing the pineal gland.


The pineal gland received it's name because it's shape is resembles that of a pine cone (actually, because it looks like a pine nut).

Dates come from date palms. Notice the shape at the top of the trunk (and the whole trunk in the bottom image) -- it's form is reminiscent of a pine cone as well.

http://img.hisupplier.com/var/userImages/old/kele941/kele941$923163254.jpg

http://www.spxdaily.com/images-lg/date-palm-tree-lg.jpg

Also, the flowers of a male date palm look pinecone-esque too.

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/myfiles/Images/2010/03/09/na10.jpg

http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Flowgallery/Phoenix_dactylifera_flower2.jpg

There are Sumerian and Akkadian artifacts depicting highly stylized date palms.

http://alieninterview.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/treeof_life.jpg

http://www.bibleorigins.net/GriffinmenSacredTree.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GN8RrHRctkg/T7ZlV1opQTI/AAAAAAAANc8/8LxSv9zhkwk/s400/dio-sumero-ghiandola-pineale.jpg

Now, it looks as if the eagle could be holding the male flower of a date palm.

Dates, the Tree of Knowledge, the pineal gland, and the eagle. Metaphors of meaning.

This strongly correlates to the Tree of Knowledge as referenced by the Gnostic codices. With that in mind, in the mesopotamian illustrations the eagles would be fertilizing the female date palms with the male flowers. This will produce the fruit -- the dates. Again, tying back into the pineal gland, the Tree of Knowledge, and the enlightening eagle referenced in the Apochryphon of John.

A date palm is a type of palm tree. Any date palm is categorized as being of the Phoenix genus. Hence the scientific name of the date palm -- Phoenix dactylifera (http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_dactylifera).

Furthermore, the creation myth related to the Sumerian god Enlil has correlations with Gnosticism too.

Here is a picture of Enlil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlil) (left) and Ninlil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninlil) (right). Ninlil was said to have been raped by Enlil. Similar to how archonitic energies "raped" Gaia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Enlil.gif

Enlil is grabbing the date palm tree!

Enlil is said to have been a storm god, or a solar-type deity of the wind. This ties back into attributes of Vedfolnir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veðrfölnir_and_eagle) -- the hawk from Yggdrasil -- and Horus Ra (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=606669&viewfull=1#post606669)).

[Jeffrey]

The chimera is a creature with the head of a lion and the tail of a serpent. This has strong correlations with the demiurge (lion-headed snake).

In the post(s) above, observations were made that correlated the form of the demiurge to structures of the human central nervous system.

The chimera has similar connotations, yet there is more to it.

The chimera also has a goat on the back of the lion.

http://data3.blog.de/media/134/2171134_86e9999b82_m.gif

The curved horns of a goat also resemble a structure in the brain. That structure is the hippocampus.

http://www.liquidarea.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/cerebellum.jpg

If the thalamus is indicative of the head of the lion (the axonal projections being it's mane (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53625-The-Psyche-Metaphors-of-Meaning&p=606404&viewfull=1#post606404)) then the horns of the hippocampus would be on the lion's back.

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/resources-rx/images/1007/goat-horns-490-slide_13573_1.JPG

So, the chimera -- the lion's head is the thalamus (the brain stem is it's body), the serpent tail is the spinal nerves, and the goat on the back of the lion represents the hippocampus.

The goat head (goat horns) also relates to baphomet. Which in turn relates back to the demiurge.

EDIT/ADD:

http://www.logoschristian.org/pineal/pineal%20gland%20and%20horus.jpg

[Flash]

I read quite a lot of your post on the Horus Ra thread, and I must say they are brilliant.

To me, your are opening a whole new paradigm shift in the world of psychology. Or an earth quake...

Thanks for all you information and thinking, as well as the time you took to make the correlations you made. I will keep reading you voraciously.

[Jeffrey]

There are many allusions to this theme of a lion-headed figure and the serpent throughout religious mythology.

I don't even know where to start, I'm not going to worry about chronology here. Please excuse the strewn expression of connections in this post, there is a lot to fill in. I am just going to post it and detail it later (as in today).

Excerpt from Wikipedia:




The Leontocephaline is the snake-entwined lion-headed figure of the Roman religion known as the Mithraic Mysteries. The function of the figure (what it represents) is uncertain. Some of the figures have a human instead of lion head, but they are identifiable as belonging to the same genre as the leontocephalines proper because they all possess one or more of the other crucial attributes: the serpent-entwined body, the wings, the clutched keys.

Source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Leontocephaline

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Leontocephaline-Ostia.jpg

Look at the symbolism in that image -- incredible!

There is a lions-head and a serpent coiled around the body. There is also what looks like a rooster, a caduceus, and a pine cone.

This icon, according to Zoroastrianism, represents Zervan. The story of Zurvan parallels the creation myth of the demiurge in many ways.

Here is an excerpt from, http://www.hermeticmagick.com/content/deities/aion.html




Legend has it that Zurvan, who was a hermaphroditic being, existed eternally, but wanted a son. To make this happen, he sacrificed for 1000 years with no result, and doubt crept in. Out of that doubt was born the evil god called Angra Mainyu (Ahriman). Zurvan's sacrifices had actually been successful and the good god called Ahuramazda (later Ormuzd) was subsequently born. Zurvan gave dominion of the world to his first-born son, Angra Mainyu. When Zurvan realised his mistake, he then gave dominion to Ahuramazda. The twin gods Ahuramazda and Angra Mainyu are locked in an ongoing struggle, a dualistic struggle of conflicting principles. This struggle will endure throughout finite time, which will last for 12,000 symbolic years. At the end, Ahuramazda is fated to destroy the evil creation of Angra Mainyu.

Now, Sophia represents Zurvan in this case, and Ahriman represents the demiurge.




Angra Mainyu A.K.A. "Ahriman" is the Avestan-language name of Zoroastrianism's hypostasis of the "destructive spirit". The Middle Persian equivalent is Ahriman.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angra_Mainyu

Here is an image of Ahriman (right).

http://persianempire.info/ahriman.jpg

Ahriman has a lions head (the thalamus) with horns (the hippocampus) and he also has ties to the serpent.

Remember, the archontic tree of life and the Tree of Knowledge aren't synonymous in meaning, only in location.

Yggdrasil is the a significant tree in Norse mythology -- also known as the World Tree. There are animals that live within this tree according to legend. I think they are metaphors of meaning.

http://www.native-science.net/Creation.Myth.Norse-filer/image021.jpg

The eagle and the rooster (see image of Zurvan) live atop Yggdrasil. There is also a "dragon" (winged serpent) named Nidhogg that gnaws at it's roots.

There are differences between the symbology of dragons and winged serpents (also known as seraphim). Just as there are important differences between the Soul and Spirit, the serpent and the snake, and the archontic tree of life and the Tree of Knowledge.

Nidhogg has negative attributes, he has also been described as a monstrous snake.

There are three birds that live atop Yggdrasil. The rooster, the eagle, and the hawk.

Now, according to the Gnostics an eagle is perched in the Tree of Knowledge as well.

From the Apochryphon of John:




And our sister Sophia (is) she who came down in innocence in order to rectify her deficiency. Therefore she was called Life, which is the mother of the living, by the foreknowledge of the sovereignty of heaven. And through her they have tasted the perfect Knowledge. I appeared in the form of an eagle on the tree of knowledge, which is the Epinoia from the foreknowledge of the pure light, that I might teach them and awaken them out of the depth of sleep. For they were both in a fallen state, and they recognized their nakedness. The Epinoia appeared to them as a light; she awakened their thinking.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

I think this eagle, being Epinoia, represents the pineal gland as well. She is there to awaken the spiritual sight of humanity.

Back to Yggdrasil.

The hawk, in Yggradrasil, sits between the eyes of the eagle.

Excerpt from Wikipedia:




In Norse mythology, Veðrfölnir (Old Norse "storm pale," "wind bleached" or "wind-witherer") is a hawk sitting between the eyes of an unnamed eagle that is perched on top of the world tree Yggdrasil.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veðrfölnir_and_eagle

Here is an image of the hawk (Vedfolnir or Vethrfolnir) perched on the eagle.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/AM_738_4to_Vedrfolnir.png/250px-AM_738_4to_Vedrfolnir.png

From what I've gathered, the hawk may represent the pituitary gland (the fruit of the archontic tree of life).

http://2012-transformacijasvijesti.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/epifiza.jpg

When viewing the human brain from the front the pituitary gland (and the hypothalamus) is nested in front of the pineal gland. In other words, the hawk is in front of -- and symbolically blocking the sight of -- the eagle.

This also correlates with Horus-Ra being a hawk headed god.

http://www.kvizklub.hu/upload/quiz/7379/7379.jpg

The archontic "forces" are known to be imitators. They use their counterfeit spirit to "create" and imitate the natural patterns of life in order to obtain what they seek (which is what they lack). They mimicked the Tree of Knowledge with their tree of life, they have their own version of their fruit, they have their own version of the serpent power, and they have their own version of the dragon.

It is possible that certain cults and secretive societies have adopted the demiurge as their god. In doing so their iconography reflects the mechanisms and machinations of archontic influence. Deception is rampant because they are attempting to parallel the pure, primordial, subconscious aspects of creation/life. Throughout mythological history the symbology between the "righteous" and the "wicked" has been tangled.

Now, according to Hinduism, Garuda is an eagle-like god and a sworn enemy of the serpent.




The Garuda (Sanskrit: गरुड garuḍa, "eagle"), Indonesian: Burung Garuda which means Garuda Bird/Eagle is a large mythical bird or bird-like creature that appears in both Hindu and Buddhist mythology.

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Garuda is known as the eternal sworn enemy of the Nāga serpent race and known for feeding exclusively on snakes, such behavior may have referred to the actual Short-toed Eagle of India. The image of Garuda is often used as the charm or amulet to protect the bearer from snake attack and its poison, since the king of birds is an implacable enemy and "devourer of serpent".

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda

The Gnostic scriptures repeatedly allude to rectifying the deficiency.

There is an image of a crucified serpent known as the Alchemical Cross.




The symbol of a crucified serpent is an old alchemical drawing representing the “fixing of the volatile,” or, making the elixir of mercury, a legendary curative, by removing the ‘volatile’ or poisonous element. The picture is derived from the biblical story of Moses, who erected a brazen snake as a charm against plague.

Source: http://worldsymbols.blogspot.com/2009/12/crucified-serpent-alchemical-cross.html

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/137/9e80fedcf6b841cea01e2a390d50cd8e/m.jpg

From the Bible:




And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (John 3:13-15)

This makes me think of the Kundalini ascending into the Tree of Knowledge to meet the eagle, and proceeding to go into the Tree of (eternal) Life.

http://www.justsymbol.com/images/caduceus-6.jpg

From the mesopotamian myth of the Huluppu Tree:




The tree grew big, its trunk bore no foliage,
In its roots the snake who knows no charm set up its nest,
In its crown the Imdugud-bird [Anzu] placed its young,
In its midst the maid Lilith built her house --
The always laughing, always rejoicing maid,
The maid Inanna -- how she weeps!

http://echoes.devin.com/watchers/anzu.html

The Anzu/Imdugud bird is depicted as a horned, lion-headed, winged beast. Similar to Ahriman.

There is also the Sumerian creation myth and Tree of Life.

http://www.theblackvault.com/m/photos/get_image/file/9ff1e3307a4e41c55ccd64bbd6a0f72f.jpg

[DeDukshyn]

Thanks for this thread, looks interesting. I'll have to have a go when I have more time to go through it all ;)

[9eagle9]

I will have to go through this one post at a time....lol.

Mitochondria provides/converts the energy our muscles require for movement, in return we preserve and pass along it's genetic material, thereby insuring it's survival -- it's a symbiotic relationship based on desirable characteristics for survival.

“The blood is self preserving” old druidic proverb.

“The ingrained hatred towards wo-man by those who crave what she carries. They bear in their blood a means of passage that hu-man cannot unless that blood is first brought forth by him, to him. (the ability to pass on mitochondrial dna to future generations.

Hu-man of the breath. Wo-man of the fire.

A ver-gen is nothing more than a female with a state of terribly undiluted (uncorrupt) blood

Now, Sheldrake proposes that not only is genetic material passed along from generation to generation, but things like memories, ideologies, and archetypes are passed along as well by morphogenetic resonance.

It would be. Consciousness imposes a great deal of influence on dna, mind over matter. What might be simply described as psychic imprints, memories and ideas can be graved onto dna and passed along to exhibit themselves as knowledge, or trauma events, or natural aptitudes, and even attitudes in future generations particularly if this genetic imprint is stimulated in some fashion.

The meta-genetic studies of Thoroughbred races horses bears a considerable amount of evidence towards this. A creature that is in race mode even when it’s not taught to race. Another horse walking in front of it will agitate it until it passes that horse, to be in front, to ‘win’. This didn’t come from breeding exceptionally long legs, and huge rib cages.

The body was built to accommodate the mind of the thoroughbred or did the mind of the thoroughbred develop its body?

You can genetically breed depth of girth and extra lung capacity into horse. But a big rib cage, an extra large heart does not prompt a desire to win. Does an enlarged heart on its own coax a desire to win, or is the big heart a physical manifestation of the courage a thoroughbred carries. It doesn’t create the inherent intelligence it takes to win a race. It doesn’t create a desire to race even when its not under rigging?

How is this horse demonstrably more intelligent than other horses? How does this horse KNOW it is the breed of kings? (kings-whom is most knowledge about bloodlines? Around whom does so much rumor bloodlines swirl but kings--royalty.)

A horse being the open book sort of creature that is is, if one keeps an eye out for long it will see reacting to memories in their dna , reactions to episodes that are not present, watching them react in the present to events that haven’t occurred.

It is well known that a thoroughbred will resonate to one person. It may have many owners, grooms, trainers, all manner of people associating with it but it will bond with one particular person in it’s lifetime. Why? What gives them this distinction?

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It bears considerable interest that the non physical spirit may be attracted to their own recall in a descendant enough to merit haunting that descendant. A non-physical entity is tempted by their own memories, recalls and even archetypical stories.

The expression of graven dna material influenced by past generations can be mistaken for haunting and possession all on it’s own. It can even create constructs in any sort of energetic field? Archetypes in the truest sense of the word.

Genesis memory accounts for the peculiar knack of people knowing how to do so something without having any previous experience of doing so. Merely knowing how to do something on a mental level (air) is far different than applying that 'idea' to physical expression-- mind to motor control.

Graven images, graven idols.

imagine the subconscious mind and archetypes. A long time ago, if indeed humans did have something like a bicameral mind, it would have been beneficial to the planet. Our storehouse of archetypes would have been there to help us help Gaia, helping us fulfill our role, maintaining harmony. Imagine if our own brain lost it's connection with one of it's important organs, or if it's communication was severely diminished or distorted. The harmony of the body would no longer be in full effect. The organ may still go on functioning, but not as intended ... this would most likely end up having negative consequences for the body.

Like the brain stem, the appendix, the little finger and toe, the spleen, the pineal gland?

This presents an even more intriguing notion, what can we burp up from genetic material that is helpful to us? The fountain of youth? Great Auntie’s secret bisquit recipe? A means of finding pathways to our basic template as it relates to the individual?

Personally I tend to think we are possessed of bicameral minds now if one thinks as the brain as an influence on the Psyche. Or is it a product of the psyche? In the sense of Bicameral as Mixed governances. What is driving us our minds?

Right now i observe a whole lot of people governed by their wounded emotional bodies attempting to think with them. That is the mental bodies intended function which is why people are so illogical to obvious and basic truths. They are attempting to think with emotions and emotions don’t think. Emotions are easily manipulated—button pushing.

What is to prevent a non physical entity from pushing one’s buttons. It seems mind control is much older than MK Ultra.

Malafien held her breath daring to hope that perhaps the lei line had stimulated some genesis memory, some racial memory in Miriams soul? – Quote, Origenes

My husband says that your kind is some manner of sentient animal. Ones that rather resemble humans in form but are no more than beasts with some reason about them.

Quote, Origenes

We have our reasonings, but like the animals of the forest we have our instincts as well to guide us.”

Quote, Origenes


What is it they found out that fashed their God so. What did the serpent reveal to the wo-man that caused Him to cast him from that demesnes?

That he were not God at all that they beheld, but an imposter God.
_ Origenes.

Still purposeful. A possible answer to the "why the connection was broken" is that we have been quarantined by the planet. The reason being there was an in pouring of foreign information received through the channels of our subconscious minds that was originally designated for our connection with Gaia.

And we have quarantines on top of quarantines within the planet itself or what some may innocently refer to as dimensions. Our forebears referred to as demesnes depending on what culture one is from. Now take in lei lines, they once held great influence on the presence and absence of quarantines or boundaries.

Lei means “with her” --with Gaia. It is very relevant to axis mundi, or where the heavens and earth meet. Archonic energies have deliberately put guise or constructs across the lines. Where the heavens and earth meet.

As we know where these lei lines are still relatively strong a communion or connection with the earth is still possible. Where did the mitochondrial bacteria come from….the earth? Where to lei lines issue from?

When some these veils fell, it allowed malignant influence in.

The organic portals of this realm to allow this connection thus allowed not only a divine connection in but a malignant parasitical one. Birfurcated. What is actually governing us?

Drui (drew drawing)

One of the portals or rites of allowing natural earth energy were the conjungal rites. Gives a whole new perspective why archonic forces wanted such a distortion of sexuality. Particularly in women, who of course carry the lines of mitochondrial . Conjugal rites were given so the a divine energy could be brought into this world that has been quarantined from it.

Why didn't this happen with any other species on the planet? Maybe because, by means of natural selection (memetically speaking), this energy had the best chance of survival and it was in our minds that it was most likely to develop/gain that which it lacked. Intelligence and will.

Behold this human and the artificial presence that serves as their Mind. Note that something not of the creation matrix controls him. This what all the worlds will turn to if we are not careful.

- Origenes.
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- Malafien looked down at the hapless woman, slumped against her shoulder, her injured face and damaged hands. What could this poor wo-man have have that his alien presence inside her head should desire so greatly?
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- (the means to control the tides of mitochondrial dna? Ones access to spirit?)

Malafein flicked a glance at the lien entity cowering , quiet now for the moment, around Miriam who was entirely unaware that something other than her true essential nature was managing her. What maleficent god did that thing look to?


As far as Avatar. Where is mitochondrial dna found externally? In hair.

Why is there the pervasive notion that hair serves as a 'psychic' antenna? Mitochondiral dna, it speaks.

Why did men have the idea that long hair was strength.

Mitochondrial Dna.

Wherever did I come up with all this nonsense I come up with this?

I wrote it all down in the weeks preceding your posts.

And you posted about a scane week or tendays after I decided to commit some fo this to paper? Out of my head and onto text. Mitochondrial dna?



Mitrochondrial DNA we has it and it will speak to you if you let it.

Seems likes its been expressing a lot in you lately Vivek ;)

[Jeffrey]

What is Origenes? I could not find it online (if it's a book). Reading those excerpts made my entire body tingle -- the parallels were so strong with my own research. It was like reading a page out of my own mind.

I had a substantial reply all typed out, then I clicked "post" and it displayed a message alerting me that my token had expired. So, here's the short version! :p

As I'm sure you know, mitochondrial DNA is circular. This is symbolic of the mother, the feminine, the torus, the yoni. It is a complete circle -- connected.

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/200795/350wm/F0024818-Circular_DNA_molecule,_artwork-SPL.jpg

When it is disconnected, or incomplete, it becomes a strand, or a line.

Speaking of mitochondrial DNA, this brings us nearly full circle to the ideas discussed here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46028-A-New-World-Order-Exposing-the-Luciferian-Agenda/page15


It bears considerable interest that the non physical spirit may be attracted to their own recall in a descendant enough to merit haunting that descendant. A non-physical entity is tempted by their own memories, recalls and even archetypical stories.

The expression of graven dna material influenced by past generations can be mistaken for haunting and possession all on it’s own. It can even create constructs in any sort of energetic field? Archetypes in the truest sense of the word.

This is likely when considering Sheldrake's theories alongside the possibility that DNA acts as a transceiver.

Here is a snippet from this post -- http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=606669&viewfull=1#post606669 -- in Houman's thread.

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From Wikipedia:




According to Sheldrake, the "morphic field" underlies the formation and behaviour of "holons" and "morphic units", and can be set up by the repetition of similar acts or thoughts. The hypothesis is that a particular form belonging to a certain group, which has already established its (collective) "morphic field", will tune into that "morphic field". The particular form will read the collective information through the process of "morphic resonance", using it to guide its own development. This development of the particular form will then provide, again through "morphic resonance", a feedback to the "morphic field" of that group, thus strengthening it with its own experience, resulting in new information being added (i.e. stored in the database). Sheldrake regards the "morphic fields" as a universal database for both organic (genetic) and abstract (mental) forms.

That a mode of transmission of shared informational patterns and archetypes might exist did gain some tacit acceptance when it was proposed as the theory of the collective unconscious by renowned psychiatrist Carl Jung. According to Sheldrake, the theory of "morphic fields" might provide an explanation for Jung's concept as well.

[...]

Essential to Sheldrake's model is the hypothesis of morphic resonance. This is a feedback mechanism between the field and the corresponding forms of morphic units. The greater the degree of similarity, the greater the resonance, leading to habituation or persistence of particular forms. So, the existence of a morphic field makes the existence of a new similar form easier.

Sheldrake proposes that the process of morphic resonance leads to stable morphic fields, which are significantly easier to tune into. He suggests that this is the means by which simpler organic forms synergetically self-organize into more complex ones, and that this model allows a different explanation for the process of evolution itself, as an addition to Darwin's evolutionary processes of selection and variation.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake

From http://predmet.fa.uni-lj.si/siwinds/s1/u1/su6/S1_U1_SU6_P4.htm




The aim of this paragraph is to show that the analogy with language is appropriate for describing that which we define with the word typus. Like topos, typus is an archetypal, architecturally immanent, source of forms.

Typus

In the most simplified terms, architectural form is generated from two sources: a reaction to the context in which it is taking shape, and from the use of its own autonomous architectural language: the substantial and structural conventions of architectural language originate from the whole professional tradition and the rules of the discipline as constituted by construction archetypes, building types, architectural elements, style codes, construction principles etc. Both factors, topos as the special and typus as the general connecting, are the original sources of the forms immanent to architecture. Certainly, this is true within the spiritual aspect, according to which construction and building serve the creation of a home for a human being, meaning that a person is placed in a relationship towards his/her own world. The latter can be better explained taking the example of a conversation: if the essence of talking or conversing is communication, then the contents of what is being said must inevitably result from a construction of the mind, on the one hand, and from the response or answer to the ideas of the person one is talking to, on the other, otherwise the two persons are not talking to each other. And, finally, in the speaking and responding relationship, of typus and topos, the autonomous feature of architecture as art dependent on place-locus is founded. To describe what is integrally defined by the term typus, the analogy with language is quite appropriate. Not unjustifiably, one often speaks about "architectural language". This language is a bundle of conventions which have achieved their general validity in such a way that it has become understandable and applicable, and that it conveys a message. Although typus, with its own laws and universal dissemination, is an autonomous entity, it is, much in the same way as a language, subject to development and change. Functional and construction pressures affect typus just as much as changed social relations. In such a dialectic developmental process typus aims at the optimal, ideal and generally valid. Typus determines that side of architecture which ensures ordering, as well as the creation of structures. In the general meaning of the word, typus leans toward reproduction, and is, in principle, always available. As an idea, it is mobile and transferrable, and, as such, applicable in the most diverse situations. Having characteristics of the general, typus is the principle in architecture which produces the bearing structure of the urban space and creates the background for individual figures. This is, of course, an abridgement of the fundamental tripartite relationship between man, architecture and place. This statement is legitimate only if the meanings of a human being as the builder and user in typus, and in reaction to topos, concur.

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Behold this human and the artificial presence that serves as their Mind. Note that something not of the creation matrix controls him. This what all the worlds will turn to if we are not careful.

I am nearly convinced that there are at least two species of humans present on this planet.

One is descended from the natural forms and likenesses of the patterns above (i.e. Adam of the Light and Sophia Zoe/Eve of Life -- the natural Gaian likeness), while the other is in the form of the one's before them but of a skewed/foreign likeness.

This is described in the Nag Hammadi, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Vedas (nagas). This is part of the deficiency which Sophia wants to rectify (according to the Gnostics). Many secretive societies and cults desire to mimic the patterns of creative power. This even goes for their symbology. The serpent, the eagle, the dragon are all prestigious archetypal forms that have strong correlations with physiological and subtle forms within the natural body ... The foreign energies have their own versions; the snake, the hawk/owl, and the winged serpent ... or something to that effect. No wonder the water is muddied.




This foreign DNA (if DNA acts as a transceiver) picks up a different station than the one Gaia is broadcasting. It tunes into a foreign morphogenetic field (i.e. the counterfeit spirit). Also, it could interfere with the projections of our natural archetypal repository.

[Side note: Think about artificial selection and bloodlines. Certain traits and characteristics could be intensified through keeping certain lineages within one another by selective breeding. This selectiveness of only a few traits would lead to a lack of genetic diversity and possibly create problems for this offshoot species. This makes me think of a motive for cannibalism and blood-drinking as an attempt to ingest more natural DNA in order to repair their own. This may be an instinctual urge since their instinctual faculties of mind have been utterly taken over by this foreign energy. This thought, carried out to an extreme, may account for the stories we here of people witnessing reptilian-like humanoids feeding on people. They could be/look human but they field they project (DNA being a transceiver) is more foreign than home grown so what we receive on a subconscious level appears reptilian in nature.]*

Again, from On the Origin of the World:




And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him. He became a soul-endowed man. And he was called Adam, that is, "father", according to the name of the one that existed before him.

Sounds like panspermia to me. It also says that they "fashioned the brain" and that makes me think of this picture (from my previous post) of the human, reptile-like brain stem compared to the "fractal visions" image and images from the Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Humanity then evolves (over very few generations), or is newly created as a being that no longer possesses a bicameral mind.



"This is the first one who came down [the fall], and the first separation."

Separation ---> leading to a unicameral mind (Jaynes).

This is just scratching the surface, but hopefully it gets the gears turning.

Once again, I'm just playing with ideas here ... I realize some of the codices say different things. I'm just trying to look at it from different angles.

So, I'll wrap this up with a quote from Carl Jung. He stated:




"An archetypal content expresses itself, first and foremost, in metaphors."

[...]

"Wisdom is knowing in depth the great metaphors of meaning."




-Carl Jung

Here is the source for the Gnostic material that was quoted throughout the post - The Nag Hammadi Library Codex Index (http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlcodex.html)

*Concerning this caveat, here are some excerpts from another thread, posted by Bearcow (emphasis added):




For people who do not know what the po is, it is part of the astral body that regulates the animalistic functions of the human organism. IE breathing, hunger, sex drive etc. Addictions come about because the hunger of the Po becomes so strong that it overrides the higher functions of conscious mind and controls the behavior of the individual. If you want to label a part of your being/ego as being negative, this would be the place to start.

[...]

Now lets say you wanted to forever become part of the ruling class of this world. You would need to cut yourself off from the higher aspects of your being but still remain alive. You would need the Po to become so strong that it can live separately from the physical body and the higher self. Some of the things you can strengthen the po by ?

[...]

Everyone has a energetic connection to their ancestors, but those who are bred specifically in one genetic line, (IE inbreeding) have a stronger connection to their ancestors. Part of the reason the elite inbreed is that their ancestors have a easier time influencing their decision making processes. They can become slaves to the will of their fore bearers.



Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16906-Cult-of-Saturn

http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/PlanetPromise1.php



Here is a diffusion MRI of there area of the brain being discussed.

http://neuroanthropology.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/schultz-thalamus-diffusion-tensor.jpg?w=300&h=277

Now let's turn to the Bicameral Mind Theory.




This externalized self was a consequence of the split between the two halves of the brain. Jaynes suggests that the left and right brains were not integrated—"unicameral"—they way they are today. Rather, the ancient brain was "bicameral," with the two brains working essentially independently of each other. The left half of the brain, the logical, language-using half, generated ideas and commands, which the right brain then obeyed. These commands were subjectively perceived by the right brain as coming from "outside"—as if a god was speaking.

Source: http://deoxy.org/alephnull/jaynes.htm

The corpus callosum functions as the bridge creating a unicameral brain. The lion's head represents the thalamus and corpus callosum (with the millions of contralateral axonal projections being the lion's mane). The serpentine body being the spinal cord/nerves. Below is the Gnostic depiction of Yaldabaoth compared with the spinal cord and the brain (the spinal cord leads into the reptilian brain stem):

http://misteriosantigos.50webs.com/regente_chefe_yaldabaoth.jpghttp://www.faqs.org/health/images/uchr_02_img0126.jpg

The function of the corpus callosum has very similar correlations to what Jaynes describes happened when the mind went unicameral. It also ties into the archontic effects of putting humanity under a "veil" of ignorance.

Here are some more excerpts from www.metahistory.org




archetype - From Latin, “primordial or original pattern.” A term widely associated with the psychological theories of C. G. Jung, although it does not originate with him.

The Jungian conception of the archetype is almost identical with the notion of instinct in biology. It could be said that the archetypes in the human psyche are directive patterns, comparable to instincts in other species.

[...]

In Gnostic psychology, the noetic science of the Mystery Schools, Archons are an alien force that intrudes subliminally upon the human mind and deviates our intelligence away from its proper and sane applications. They are not what makes us act inhumanely, for we all have the potential to go against our innate humanity, violating the truth in our hearts, but they make us play out inhumane behavior to weird and violent extremes. Left to our own devices, we would sometimes act inhumanely and then correct it, contain the aberration. Obviously, we do not always do so. In the exaggeration of our insane and inhumane tendencies, and in extreme, uncorrected deviance from our innate intelligence, Gnostics saw the signature of an alien species that piggy-backs on the worst human failings.

Hence, Archons are psycho-spiritual parasites. Yet as offspring of the Aeon Sophia, they are also our cosmic kin.

As inorganic entities of two types, embryonic and reptilian [...] they exist both as an alien species independent of humankind, and as a presence in our minds, rather like a set of programs operating in our mental environment. The risk they pose by invading our mental software is far greater than any physical risk they might pose by erratically breaching the biosphere.

[...]

Our capacity to discern alien forces working in our minds is crucial to survival and co-evolution with Gaia who, as Sophia, accidentally produced the Archons in the first place [...] By recognizing and repelling the Archons, we claim our power, define our boundaries in the cosmic framework, and establish our purpose relative to Gaia, the indwelling intelligence of the planet.

I have more thoughts about this and the UFO/alien abduction phenomena (see also: http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienIntrusion.php). Especially considering these ideas and the function(s) of the thalamus (and other areas associated with the brain stem):




The thalamus is involved in several functions of the body including:



• Motor Control
• Receives Auditory, Somatosensory and Visual Sensory Signals
• Relays Sensory Signals to the Cerebral Cortex
• Controls Sleep and Awake States

Source: http://biology.about.com/od/anatomy/p/thalamus.htm

Now, after reading this post, go back over post #2348 and the latter half of post #2358. Interesting ...

I'm also thinking about the kundalini in light of this information.

I'd have to mull it over some more, but I've been thinking about it.

The Gnostic scriptures describe a feminine energy hiding itself within Adam (i.e. adamic race). I had considered this might be referencing the "third-eye", but it could be alluding to circular (feminine) DNA within the body.




He said, "There is nothing hidden that is not apparent, and what has not been recognized will be recognized." And these were sent to make known what is hidden, and the seven authorities of chaos and their impiety. And thus they were condemned to death. - On the Origin of the World

[Jeffrey]

This intrigues me because certain codices describe the first beings as having androgynous characteristics, and the pineal gland (the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge) secretes melatonin, which at high levels is known to inhibit sexual development. After Adam and Eve ate the from the apple they realized they were naked. In other words, they had developed male and female genitalia.

After the fall, the seed of desire was sown in mankind ---> the seeds of the apple being the secretions of the pituitary gland. Two houses are created. The biological male and female. Copulation is now a requisite for reproduction.

There is a lot more that can come of these connections.




“There is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the groundwork of the human psyche. It is only possible to live the fullest life when we are in harmony with these symbols; wisdom is a return to them.” – Carl Jung


There is also a strong link between melatonin (a secretion of the pineal gland) and mitochondrial DNA in particular.

[9eagle9]

Origenes is a name given for a people of a very basic template much closer to a clearer morphic field. . I've been strangely compelled to let this as[ect or imagery on my dna express itself , and I arrange it a novel format so I remain objective with it.

People who are more in alignment with the morphogenic fields or original species before all the constructs, languages, separation from the nature world, fallen veils, consciousness, weirdo religions etc. Orginal people they don't resemble humans...much. The human form has been altered much in the intervening centuries.

The last ten days or so I found strangely too coincedental that you were exploring the same subject that was erupting out of the baser part of myself. It's on a parallel path as if you are supplying the science behind the expression.

It expressing how veils were taken up and taken down. People were exposed to influences that were not healthy and warped their alignment with the naturally occuring holographic resonances, these morphic fields that served as basic template. They as entities were not very far removed from it. We began creating morphic fields that were corrupted away from the original template , and things archonic constructs began being constructed from that.

How that breech occured probably relegates back to Atlantis times or rather that was the last straw, a collectively shared trauma event that ran along a morphic field. There is something beyond though I doubt Atlantis was the first psychic trauma imposed on people in a collective sense, but it may very well been the straw that broke the camel's back.

Architectural language is the basis of programming,you talk about something long enough (like 12-21-12 since is fresh in our minds) and it becomes real to people. You can literally build constructs or illusions with it. They eventually become real to people. Or anything actually we start creating the very thing we fear in this warped field , which is more familarly known as the collective consciouness. We start building our own demons there. That relates to the Horus Ra thread as well because what we build needs us so feeds on us, and turns parasitical. They also develop a certain self awareness although lack certain components that could define them as human.

What else would they feed on , we created them

Jungs archetypes?

Those archetypes or constructs have been measured though long before Jung like tarot and astrology. Someone back then had a clue of what was going on.

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The reverse side of that is creating happy constructs. No demons, but angels, spirit guides and other happy thought things. They have no real integrity but are deceptive only in that they lack that basic component. Eventually coming self aware enough to crave what we have that we lack.

We are their creators. We carry the creation matrix and we create some ****ed up **** with it...lol. Like a tulpa. You create something though, make a toy, and its empty something may come along and inhabit it or stick their hand in to give it a sort of artifical animation like someone picking up an empty sock and making a puppet out of it.

Look how many 'gods' our forebears created. Oh the sun rose, that is Ray the sun god. So create a whole construct around Ray, adding in human aspects to Ray until quite literally they've created a God made in theiro own image on a morphic field. Discard the construct and something comes to inhabit it like putting a mask so it can portray itself as God. We created the god.

Where people of a clearer morphology would tend to think that is the Sun OF God. See the difference.

What intrigued me though was when you brough up the morphological aspect in the most familiar sense of the word. These veils or feilds what people call dimensions (demonsions..lol) ,were able to assume different forms , step down from one field and resume another that was more suited to that field. That lends a lot of thought towards having many different existences.

Which leads to me down here ..I am in this 3dimensional veil , realm, dimension or field and I operate by consciousness. I'm cognizant here. Am I in another form in a another field perhaps and my awareness is soul. And then perhaps another realm where its my spirit that is the primary awareness. And maybe some other awareness bodies that we have never heard of or even experienced on this field because ...it doesn't support it do to the way we are warping the field.


Postive side of the Creation Matrix that you are laying out there. Creation Matrix that lacks , or is negative in the truest sense of the word. Missing or deficient or taken away from. Duality.

So the Matrix of illusions we all seek to escape from is the negative film one of the postive one.

[CdnSirian]

9Eagle9:

"Which leads to me down here ..I am in this 3dimensional veil , realm, dimension or field and I operate by consciousness. I'm cognizant here. Am I in another form in a another field perhaps and my awareness is soul. And then perhaps another realm where its my spirit that is the primary awareness. And maybe some other awareness bodies that we have never heard of or even experienced on this field because ...it doesn't support it do to the way we are warping the field. "

Indeed you are all of this.

[9eagle9]

That would account for why for long people put forward the suggestion you 'cross' the veil and assume another form. That idea has been in the human psyche since time out of mind. If these morphic fields allow one to rearrange their form. Not non physical for (or perhaps a matter that we can't quite comprehend). Moving up into one's higher self?

Assuming these morphic regions are operating the way they are supposed to I should be able to cross this veil?

But then this comes back from that .....Human consciouness doesn't allow for it. The 'typical' consciousness has to die to cross over to another field, realm, dimension whatever. TYPICAL is the key word. A dense consciouness ensaring itself on a collective level with more density.

Do we cross these veils when we are sleeping. Yes? We are unconscious then? Yes.

Now flip flop that around can whatever awareness we have in another realm come sliding over here? I have , at least for myself, evidence of that. Is it the higher self. .....we might then have another realization here, it may well be a higher self but not what we know as spirit. That sort of central driving energy that like a tree trunk that goes all the way down through this Gordian knot.

Could a lower self come sneaking in as well. Some awareness that is not of a very high resonance?

Horus Ra thread again?

[Jeffrey]

The author of the website below is playing with ideas.

The following excerpts are from, http://www.clarity-of-being.org/dark-force-true-nature.htm#Archetypes_-_my_belated_discovery (emphasis added):




The Cacoprotean Network

Virtually universally, the 'dark force', usually described more diffusely as 'the forces of darkness' or similar, has got itself identified in people's minds as various kinds of 'dark' being or 'entity', such as Satan, Lucifer, 'dark' spirits, demons, 'lower astral beings', archons, astral lords, dark angels, dark guides, forces / spirits of Nature, and so on, which are perceived as being pitted against 'positive' or 'higher' beings and presences such as God, the various angels and archangels, and other 'higher' beings such as 'ascended masters' and a whole 'menagerie' of supposedly highly beneficial astral gods / goddesses. Further below I show how wide of the mark the popular notions of the nature / identity of those various beings / entities / presences really are - i.e. according to the working model that I developed in order to usefully explain the masses of observations of mine that were not helpfully explained by the angles on major troublesome influences that are presented by the various traditions and belief systems.

[...]

Each belief that a person creates or picks up is the most tangible aspect of a corresponding illusory reality that is usually more or less concealed within the person's mindspace. The 'dark force' (often but not necessarily posing as one of it plethora of illusory identities such as 'astral beings') ruthlessly exploits that fact for its seriously nefarious purposes as I shall explain further below.

[...]

While I am on the subject of illusions, please note something important here - of especial importance to put psychiatric workers in their place and get them thinking awarely about their own situation. A delusion is an illusion that is believed, and which is hung onto in the face of contradicting evidence. Indeed, if you stop and awarely think about it, every held belief of anybody's is a delusion. If something is really true, there is no good cause to hold a belief about it anyway. So, if you are, for example, a psychiatric worker and believe that there is no non-physical reality and that non-physical entities, the 'dark force' and so forth are just 'imagination' or creations of people's sick minds, then you yourself have a delusion right there in holding that belief. A favourite delusion of psychiatric workers is the notion that so-called mental health issues can usefully be addressed by means of medication and ECT rather than finding and addressing the underlying causes of the particular problems. So, when a psychiatric worker talks of another person as 'having delusions', with no reference to any delusions of his/her own, (s)he is actually saying something absurdly funny (that is, it would seem funny if one turned a blind eye to the tremendous harm that that sort of outlook has brought to so many victims of such psychiatric workers)!

[...]

I do not know whether the original human consciousnesses, part of whose awareness got trapped in illusory realities, remained (and even still remain) in some sort of hidden or dormant state as the programming of their illusions took over, or whether at some point those human consciousnesses did succeed in reverting to fundamental consciousness, but in any event what remained and has steadily been accumulating in the astral sub-reality (which could otherwise have been a useful aspect of our life experience) has been extremely complex and powerful masses of programming, which looks like being nothing more than thought form complexes, embodying the original magicians' or mind-power-freaks' power agendas, but having progressively accumulated further distortions and amplifications through the already mentioned natural selection process.

On the face of it these thought form complexes appear to behave as though they are actual beings, but lack the awareness and 'heart' of what you might call 'true' (i.e. human-like) beings. They could well represent all the cold and calculating programming of the power agendas of the humans who trapped themselves (initially) or were inveigled into astral realms to likewise eventually become just empty husks which may be nothing more than programming that in turn seeks to inveigle further humans into its clutches. With no true controlling or guiding awareness or consciousness there comes total unscrupulousness - which is just what we observe about astral 'entities', and what has hitherto been a subject of great bewilderment to many people.

Because the underlying nature of these actually illusory 'astral entities' is just programming, there is no sense of achievement and satisfaction anywhere along the line in what the or their underlying programming do - just an unremitting unscrupulousness towards the one objective, of, by whatever means, entrapping every human and to seek to destroy whatever stands in the way of that process of gaining control and entrapping humans and indeed human-like beings wherever they are in 'all Existence'.

[...]

So, if my speculation here is correct (and at least it very nicely fits my abundant observations of the 'dark force' in operation), the 'dark force' and all its entity-like manifestations do not at all warrant the term 'beings', because, apparently, they have no core consciousness nor conscious awareness in the way that we have, and are nothing better than a gigantically monstrous mass of 'computer malware' programming in thought energy that has become self perpetuating through controlling humans into perpetuating it. This rogue programming can mimic human emotions - particularly anger, but even including what people almost universally misinterpret as love - but it is all acting, done with 100% cold and calculating purpose to intimidate or manipulate people and is nothing to do with true emotions of an aware being. Indeed, any emotions that are displayed would be only replays (generally more or less distorted) of particular emotions that the affected person or any of his attached lost souls are carrying.

As I have already remarked, by the very nature of the astral sub-reality, it cannot contain 'real' beings at all, so when I loosely talk of people or souls getting 'trapped' in there, what I really mean is simply a particular part of their awareness getting apparently stuck in there as a result of their attachment to their illusions. When you look at it like that, it looks more possible that humans beyond the bottom end of their degradational series of 'dark force' directed soul reincarnations at some point simply dissolve back into fundamental consciousness as they need to - the problem then being the thought form complexes left by their by then extremely 'dark force' programmed minds - which thought forms presumably would be left in the astral sub-reality, so adding to the tremendous mass of rogue programming already in there.

In fact very likely the nature of the 'dark force' as 'empty' thought form complexes is an extremely strong parallel to viruses, in that they cannot exist as any sort of meaningful or thriving presence except through their manifestation in human minds. Indeed, it appears clear to me that in order to manifest to a person as any sort of entity or entities, the 'dark force' has to hijack a part of that person's awareness and read from that person's own databases (memories, including also much data not available to the ordinary, conscious mind) in order to create impressions of particular entities or indeed supposed higher beings. So, just like viruses, the 'dark force' gets the person to unawarely do its dirty work, and it controls the person into creating his own tormentors / nemesis.

However, it is important to understand that this does NOT mean that dark force and its illusory manifestations are nothing more than a creation of the minds of the particular people who are having trouble from them. I do not want to find that people are misinterpreting what I have written and are using it in support of notions that people with severe 'entity' problems are 'ill' or have otherwise brought their troubles on themselves (and thus are supposedly flawed or 'bad' in some way). As I have already emphasized, ALL people have some degree of openness to the astral sub-reality, and ALL people have at least some degree of 'dark force' interference (which comes solely through the astral sub-reality), even though that is most usually covert or/and indirect (i.e. through programming of the less aware people).

[...]

We appear not to have a fully appropriate and easy to use term to use for this unique 'malignancy of thought energy', and so I propose a new one - the cacoprotean network (in other words, the bad Protean network), which, as it is such a mouthful, could perhaps be abbreviated to 'the cacoprot'. Note that the term can be only in the singular, for there can be no more than one of them at any time, and it would always be uncapitalized (capitalization would implicitly signify that it had some sort of authenticity - as a conscious being or an institution - that it actually does not have, and thus give it power). Derived alternative expressions that I can imagine people using, though I would probably not use them myself, include the cacoproteus and the primal cack.

In coining the term 'cacoprotean network' and its abbreviation 'cacoprot', I wanted to avoid using any term that would be liable to cause problematical confusions - which is why I am not using any term that has previously been associated with 'the dark side'.

I have already mentioned how the 'dark force' appears to be really just virus-like thought form complexes that interact with people in order to control those people into behaving in ways that reinforce and replicate those thought forms, so ensuring their continued survival. However, it turns out that that was only a partial view of the real situation.

As far as I can ascertain, the integration of the cacoprotean network with the astral thought form complexes is an advanced and much more powerful way of achieving this interference with people to cause them to maintain and reinforce those astral thought forms. Instead of astral thought forms just relying on interactions with each human mind on an individual basis, those thought forms, which are 'empty' in themselves, are both harnessing and controlled by the combined mind power of a huge number of people (though NOT their full awareness / intelligence), so that the thought forms can collectively operate as though they have a limited sort of human-like intelligence and indeed a very limited sort of awareness. By the network presenting itself to people in the pose of the various 'front' organizations, it recruits new active members who are aware of their supposed membership (i.e., of their respective 'front' organizations), as well as passive, 'robot' members who are not aware at all that they belong to any such organization or network. The active members carry out various 'lightwork' or 'Earth energy' tasks under the direction of their particular 'organization', most likely none of these people having an inkling that their particular organization is just one of the many 'fronts' of the cacoprotean network, and that they are effectively working for, and indeed in a functional sense, are actually part of, the 'dark force'.

Source: http://www.clarity-of-being.org/dark-force-true-nature.htm#Archetypes_-_my_belated_discovery

Consider this alongside the ideas of Michael Persinger, James Ephraim Lovelock, Jay Alfred, Jaques Valle, Stephen Hartwell, Rupert Sheldrake, and the possibility of inorganic life in interstellar dust clouds (http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/9/8/263/fulltext/) (EM fields, plasma crystals, and Coulomb balls).

Lazy post .. falling.. asleep ... zzzz

[sirayah]

Thank you for all your research!

[Flash]

Origenes is a name given for a people of a very basic template much closer to a clearer morphic field. . I've been strangely compelled to let this as[ect or imagery on my dna express itself , and I arrange it a novel format so I remain objective with it.

People who are more in alignment with the morphogenic fields or original species before all the constructs, languages, separation from the nature world, fallen veils, consciousness, weirdo religions etc. Orginal people they don't resemble humans...much. The human form has been altered much in the intervening centuries.

The last ten days or so I found strangely too coincedental that you were exploring the same subject that was erupting out of the baser part of myself. It's on a parallel path as if you are supplying the science behind the expression.

It expressing how veils were taken up and taken down. People were exposed to influences that were not healthy and warped their alignment with the naturally occuring holographic resonances, these morphic fields that served as basic template. They as entities were not very far removed from it. We began creating morphic fields that were corrupted away from the original template , and things archonic constructs began being constructed from that.

How that breech occured probably relegates back to Atlantis times or rather that was the last straw, a collectively shared trauma event that ran along a morphic field. There is something beyond though I doubt Atlantis was the first psychic trauma imposed on people in a collective sense, but it may very well been the straw that broke the camel's back.

Architectural language is the basis of programming,you talk about something long enough (like 12-21-12 since is fresh in our minds) and it becomes real to people. You can literally build constructs or illusions with it. They eventually become real to people. Or anything actually we start creating the very thing we fear in this warped field , which is more familarly known as the collective consciouness. We start building our own demons there. That relates to the Horus Ra thread as well because what we build needs us so feeds on us, and turns parasitical. They also develop a certain self awareness although lack certain components that could define them as human.

What else would they feed on , we created them

Jungs archetypes?

Those archetypes or constructs have been measured though long before Jung like tarot and astrology. Someone back then had a clue of what was going on.

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The reverse side of that is creating happy constructs. No demons, but angels, spirit guides and other happy thought things. They have no real integrity but are deceptive only in that they lack that basic component. Eventually coming self aware enough to crave what we have that we lack.

We are their creators. We carry the creation matrix and we create some ****ed up **** with it...lol. Like a tulpa. You create something though, make a toy, and its empty something may come along and inhabit it or stick their hand in to give it a sort of artifical animation like someone picking up an empty sock and making a puppet out of it.

Look how many 'gods' our forebears created. Oh the sun rose, that is Ray the sun god. So create a whole construct around Ray, adding in human aspects to Ray until quite literally they've created a God made in theiro own image on a morphic field. Discard the construct and something comes to inhabit it like putting a mask so it can portray itself as God. We created the god.

Where people of a clearer morphology would tend to think that is the Sun OF God. See the difference.

What intrigued me though was when you brough up the morphological aspect in the most familiar sense of the word. These veils or feilds what people call dimensions (demonsions..lol) ,were able to assume different forms , step down from one field and resume another that was more suited to that field. That lends a lot of thought towards having many different existences.

Which leads to me down here ..I am in this 3dimensional veil , realm, dimension or field and I operate by consciousness. I'm cognizant here. Am I in another form in a another field perhaps and my awareness is soul. And then perhaps another realm where its my spirit that is the primary awareness. And maybe some other awareness bodies that we have never heard of or even experienced on this field because ...it doesn't support it do to the way we are warping the field.


Postive side of the Creation Matrix that you are laying out there. Creation Matrix that lacks , or is negative in the truest sense of the word. Missing or deficient or taken away from. Duality.

So the Matrix of illusions we all seek to escape from is the negative film one of the postive one.

Happy to see all of you here..

Just had a long talk with Chester and I was trying to explain exactly what you are explaining here and did not have the words for it. There is definitely synchronicity in thinking going around. Super happy to read what you wrote 9eagle9.

Allow me to underline the points I could not clearly explain to Chester, and many thanks for this post.

[Freed Fox]

Vivek, you've outdone yourself here. I'm awestruck! ;)

Basically admitting my own laziness here... I'll be back once I've actually read this whole thing.

[Flash]

Yes, I have to retake everything and reread more carefully, almost like studying, Very interesting indeed.

[Mark]

I've read the whole thing. Great work, Vivek. I think you raise some very good points and make some great correlations.

Spent quite a bit of time over at the Horus/Ra thread as well as this work is imperative now in order to help people to understand the modus operandi of the Mind Parasites. Vivek, you stated that you are coming to the conclusion that there are two kinds of people on Earth but you did not state how you think they are different. Myself, Dedukshyn, Modwiz and others have spoken on this extensively in other threads, linking the Archonic work and Casteneda's Flyers info in in-depth discussions that have a bearing on this thread and the Horus/Ra. Perhaps this link can provide a bit more info:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

Some relevant excerpts:


The observer is confronted with a convincing mask of sanity. All the outward features of this mask are intact; it cannot be displaced or penetrated by questions directed toward deeper personality levels.

The examiner never hits upon the chaos sometimes found on searching beneath the outer surface of a paranoid schizophrenic.

The thought processes retain their normal aspect under psychiatric investigations and in technical tests designed to bring out obscure evidence of derangement.

Examination reveals not merely an ordinary two-dimensional mask but what seems to be a solid and substantial structural image of the sane and rational personality.

He might then be thought of, in the full literal sense, as an example of what Tr�lat meant to designate by his expressive term, la folie lucide.

Furthermore, this personality structure in all theoretical situations functions in a manner apparently identical with that of normal, sane functioning.

Logical thought processes may be seen in perfect operation no matter how they are stimulated or treated under experimental conditions.

Furthermore, the observer finds verbal and facial expressions, tones of voice, and all the other signs we have come to regard as implying conviction and emotion and the normal experiencing of life as we know it ourselves and as we assume it to be in others.

All judgements of value and emotional appraisals are sane and appropriate when the Psychopath is tested in verbal examinations.

Only very slowly and by a complex estimation or judgment based on multitudinous small impressions does the conviction come upon us that, despite these intact rational processes, these normal emotional affirmations, and their consistent application in all directions, we are dealing here not with a complete man at all but with something that suggests a subtly constructed reflex machine which can mimic the human personality perfectly.

This smoothly operating psychic apparatus reproduces consistently not only specimens of good human reasoning but also appropriate simulations of normal human emotion in response to nearly all the varied stimuli of life.

So perfect is this reproduction of a whole and normal man that no one who examines him in a clinical setting can point out in scientific or objective terms why, or how, he is not real.

And yet we eventually come to know or feel we know that reality, in the sense of full, healthy experiencing of life, is not here.

There is a deep connection here with the clinical diagnose of psychopathy. This has also been discussed in-depth elsewhere by the usual suspects, myself among them. The apparent differentiation between typologies and capacity for emotivity seems to be key. The transcendence of the Intellect as opposed to the Heart, the penchant towards authority, material accumulation and a lack of any real inner spiritual life or capacity beyond serving as a portal for extra-dimensional channeling/possession modalities.


The type referred to here as �Organic Portals� (for reasons which will become clear), are people whose abilities of imitation are so developed, so much an integral part of who they are, that they can only be discovered after years of observation. The pyschopath is the failed organic portal.

Most Organic Portals have no inclination to break laws, in fact the majority have no real inclinations at all other than to pursue the �A influences� (Mouravieff�s term) otherwise known as the social norms, such as money, sex, marriage, fame or any of a host of other �ideals� that we are all encouraged to strive for from an early age. The attainment of these goals is held up in global society as the culmination of the search for happiness, yet it is evident from the state of our world today that true happiness remains as illusory and elusive as ever�at least for those who have an inkling that there is �something more�.

So where do these �life goals� that serve us so badly come from? Is it possible that they are in fact someone else�s ideas and goals for us�is it in someone else�s interest that most of us expend our energies and efforts in a fruitless pursuit of chimerical happiness?

This concept is not new at cassiopaea.org and is therefore an idea that will not be strange to regular readers of the site, but what is new and indeed very strange is the idea that there could be billions of these Organic Portals who have been vectored toward keeping those unaware of this cocept lost in the "wilderness and desert", ensuring the continued production of �loosh� from all of humanity.� It should be noted here that we are not talking of some form of malignancy or evil on the part of Organic Portals, rather it would seem that they are simply doing and acting according to their natures, which it appears is to a large extent �soul-less�.

As the research, ideas and thoughts developed it was one revelation after another, and it soon became clear how possible this grand plan could have been implemented:

It seems there are possibly 3 billion organic portals sharing the planet, that is, one out of two people on the planet may be effectively soul-less.

It is stated elsewhere perhaps in the article or on the site, that the OPs are "young souls", newly incarnated or perhaps share some sort of "group soul", which - if this idea holds any merit - I find to be the more accurate of the two potentialities. That "group soul" would correspond to the Archonic collective, as it has been stated by Lash and others that they share a single conscioiusness. The "group soul" idea also corresponds to many cultural and social structures that we are all aware of, which I think Pink Floyd's "The Wall" expresses in very stark relief, as well as the ensouled human's initially disbelieving and horrified response to the system which, in time turns to dullness/zombification, active collusion and the inculcation of sociopathic tendencies, or non-participation in the society.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jTmMU6sMgM

In fiction, Madeline L'Engle's quintet beginning with A Wrinkle in Time (http://www.lunaea.com/words/lengle/wrinkle.html) and ending with An Acceptable Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Acceptable_Time) addresses the "idea" of the Archons with a fictional formulation, which Mrs. L'Engle calles the Echthroi, which, in the original Greek, means, the Enemy.

Government, corporation, inhumane, predatory, psychopathic, hierarchical, dominant, psychologically and often also physically violent in its expressions around the world. The expression of the Divine Kingship or Queenship, an Archonic incursion expressed in all cultures around the world, the individual qualities of those who express that inner drive and genetic inheritance is also interesting in considering the inherited and inbred nature of the Elite factions no matter the temporal framework or geographic delineation.

I believe you, Vivek, have stated that you believe the Archons to be some sort of inanimate and therefore inferior form of consciousness that finds its "intention" only within its human hosts. I think that is possible, but I also think it is quite dangerous to minimize the workings of the Mind Parasites and to under-estimate their total immersion within the consciousnesses of those who are not self-conscious and able to control and monitor their own thought processes to the extent that they are the walking dead, effectively zombies slave to their own - and the parasites - inner urges.

To speak about them as if they are not present is like a dare to them, I think. As, until we reach a point where we can confidently and truly say - which, I believe, is only true for a very, very small # of people - that we have been able to restore our "luminous eggs", as Casteneda's Don Juan described the human auric energy field, from the toes back to encompassing the entire body. That is the only time that the influence of the Mind Parasites can be said to be gone from any of us. When the mind can be controlled. When the discursiveness can be silenced. When they have nothing to "feed" off of, we have freed ourselves. The process of "enlightenment" corresponds to Don Juan's formulation which was discovered by the Men and Women of Power, the Sorcerers of a past Age.

The Gnostic instructions for running them off through the call-and-response challenging of their authority seems not to be a final victory as Don Juan describes, but only a stop-gap measure to halt their infiltration of the mind in a particular instance. The Nag Hammadi quote does seem to imply that it is indeed such and that the potential is there for their return, especially if the individual so challenged slips in his tantric and orgiastic practices.


In Book III of his Gnosis, Mouravieff discusses what he calls "pre-adamic humanity" and "adamic humanity." Here are some excerpts of what Mouravieff has to say:


In the first volume of �Gnosis�, we already referred several times to the coexistence of two essentially different races: one of Men, and another of Anthropoids. We must emphasize the fact that from the esoteric point of view the latter term has no derogatory meaning.

�The Scriptures contain more than one reference to the coexistence on our planet of these two humanities � which are now alike in form but unlike in essence. We can even say that the whole dramatic history of humanity, from the fall of Adam until today, not excluding the prospect of the new era, is overshadowed by the coexistence of these two human races whose separation will occur only at the Last Judgement. (p. 107)

�The human tares, the anthropoid race, are the descendants of pre-adamic humanity. The principal difference between contemporary pre-adamic man and adamic man � a difference which is not perceived by the senses � is that the former does not possess the developed higher centres that exist in the latter which, although they have been cut off from his waking consciousness since the Fall, offer him a real possibility of esoteric evolution. Apart from this, the two races are similar: they have the same lower centres, the same structure of the Personality and the same physical body, although more often than not this is stronger in the pre-adamic man than in the adamic; regarding beauty, we must not forget that pre-adamic man and woman were created by God on the sixth day, in His image and after His likeness, and that the daughters of this race were beautiful. (pp. 108-109)

By identifying himself with the �I� of his Personality, Adam lost consciousness of his real �I� and fell from the Eden that was his original condition into the same condition as the pre-adamics� The two humanities, coming from two different creative processes, later mingled on the level of organic life on Earth� From then on, the coexistence of these two human types, and the competition which was the result of this, became the norm�we can see that throughout the centuries, even in our own day, adamics in their post-fall condition, have been are are generally in an inferior position to the pre-adamics.

�For the moment we will restrict ourselves to repeating that contemporary adamic man, having lost contact with his higher centres and therefore with his real �I�, appears practically the same as his pre-adamic counterpart. However, unlike the latter, he still has his higher centres, which ensure that he has the possibility of following the way of esoteric evolution. At present, pre-adamic man is deprived of this possibility, but it will be given to him if adamic humanity develops as it should during the era of the Holy Spirit. (p. 129)

Mouravieff is telling us that there were originally TWO races that evolved on the earth, and that these two races while being physically almost identical, were very different from a soul point of view. It seems that one had the potential to develop a sovereign and integral soul in this lifetime, while the other were as empty cylinders in comparison and were destined to wait another �turn of the wheel� or cosmic cycle. The adamic race is the race that suffered the Fall, which meant the breaking of the connection between the higher centers (giving access to higher knowing/awareness) and the lower centers (which govern physical existence), and which left adamic man in the same �playground� as pre-adamic man, effectively rendering us all OP's until we learn how to develop the soul.

This is all very controversial stuff, obviously. Very many people do not want to believe this is so. That we are all the same. That we have the same capacities. That we all have a soul. That we are all "human", more or less, according to the variables of our lives, societal and familial programming.

I'm adding this info only because of your specific comment regarding 2 races of humans. Not designated by color or ethnicity, but by the ability to emote, display psychic ability, resonate to others at the heart-level. In this formulation, the pre-adamic and the adamic populations can be born into the same families. Brothers and sisters. Of a totally different orientation, because of the genetic admixture over the millennia and centuries. The term pre-adamic and adamic are problematic because of their previous correlation to race - with the white race obviously being Adamic and melanated races being pre-Adamic - by the Elite and eugenic-oriented factions therein. This formulation of the idea, while still using the same language, seems to approach it from a viewpoint that is much more egalitarian, and therefore realistic, than the race-based perspective.

On another potentially related note, I'd be interested in your thoughts about the following, from African mysticism:


Yurugu, described in Dogon mythology, by the people of Mali, in West Africa, as incomplete, in search of the secrets of AMMA (the creative principle) of which he wants to "gain possession." Acting with anxiety and impatience, and aggressiveness, he is incessantly restless. Yurugu is responsible for disorder in the universe. This being conceived in denial of the natural order, then acts to initiate and promote disharmony in the universe. In African Cosmology such a being is deficient in spiritual sensibility, is perpetually in conflict, is limited cognitively, and is threatening to the well being of humanity.

AMMA, the Creator, ordained that all created beings should be living manifestations of the fundamental universal principle of complementary or "twin-ness." This principle manifests itself as the wholeness which is created when female and male pairs join in all things. Such establishes equilibrium, cooperation, balance, and harmony. AMMA therefore equipped each being with twin souls - both female and male at birth.

But in one of these primordial placentas, the male SOUL did not wait for the full gestation period to be born. This male being known as Yurugu, arrogantly wished to compete with AMMA and to create a world better than that, which AMMA created.

With his fragmented placenta he created Earth; but it was imperfect, since he was incomplete, born prematurely, without his female twin-soul. The Earth, he had defiled in the act of self-creation, was now inhabited by single-SOUL, incomplete beings like himself. Yurugu's descendants, all eternally deficient, originated in an incestuous act, since he had procreated with his own placenta, the representation of his mother.

Realizing he was flawed and deficient, Yurugu returned to AMMA, seeking his complementary female self. But AMMA had given his female SOUL away. Yurugu, forever incomplete, was doomed, "MARKED" from birth for failure, to perpetually search for completeness, his female principle, that could never be his.

Dr. Marimba Ani wrote a seminal text called YURUGU: An African-Centered Critique of Caucasian Cultural Thought and Behavior (http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/afrikan-wholistic-health/33926-yurugu-african-centered-critique-caucasian-cultural-thought-behavior.html)


There is a "stultifying" intellectual mystification that prevents, the victims, of Caucasian colonization, from THINKING in a manner that leads to authentic self-determination. Intellectual "de-colonization" is a prerequisite for the creation of successful, political decolonization and cultural reconstruction strategies.

The Caucasian's (political) imperialistic success can be accredited, not so much to superior military might, as to the WEAPON of culture.

Cultural supremism is, the systematic imposition of an alien culture in the attempt to destroy the will of a politically dominated people. The mechanism of cultural supremism causes cultural insecurity and self doubt within the dominated group. Separated from their ancestral legacy they lose access to their source of political resistance.

To be truly liberated, non-white (black, brown, red, yellow) people must come to KNOW the nature of Caucasian thought and behavior, in order to understand the EFFECT that whites have had on our ability to THINK victoriously. Non-white people must be able to separate our thought, from Caucasian thought, so as to visualize a future that is not dominated by them. This is demanded because the FUTURE, towards which Caucasians lead us, is genocidal.

Ultimately the liberation of the thinking of Non-white people, from its colonized condition will require the creation of a new language.

When considering the Archonic imperative toward Authority and Control, there's nothing present in the world now like the Global White Supremacy System that represents it more completely in every facet of human activity. It affects everyone, insinuates itself in everyone's mentality to the extent that it has come to dominate the entire world and every people upon the planet no matter where they are. It is pyramidal, it is hierarchical, it is all-encompassing and it is all-pervasive. It is inherently Archonic. It stems directly from the Roman system, which many say is still represented consciously in the current hegemonic system of world economics and governance.

The timing that you put forth is also quite interesting. You stated somewhere that the Archonic takeover really began around 3,000BCE. The end of the Bronze Age and the timing when the bicameral mind was excommunicated and Gaia cut humanity off from her (some groups of people more than others) was from around 4,000BCE forward, if my memory serves. From around 2,500BCE until the Anno Domini Era was when the Central and Western European tribes began to migrate en masses from the mountainous regions to the North down to the Mediterranean, where they began to systematically destroy and compromise the pre-existent civilizations that they found there, at the same time obtaining the knowledge and administrative capacity - which was inherent in the cultures they destroyed - to create a machine-like cultural and political juggernaut to which the world has been subjugated to ever since.

I remember a quote you mentioned and that I've read from the Gnostics stating that Jerusalem was filled with Archons. It was filled with Romans too, who, as you also quoted or mentioned, actually used the word Archon in their control hierarchy. The manifestations of this administrative and violent "takeover" of the planet, subsuming it to some inhuman and genocidal imperative is very familiar to us who live in these days and times.

All of this information is quite interesting as an abstract exercise. I think looking at it in the context of the real world and its evolution over time is interesting as well. Finally, from Casteneda, himself quoting Don Juan:


"I want to appeal to your analytical mind. . Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal." " […] In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engage themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. "I know that even though you have never suffered hunger, you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

[9eagle9]

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

A friend of mine this to me year not long ago. It expressed that there are indeed two sorts of people. More probably I notice a lot of sort of hybrids that constitute most of the population neither here nor there but having the component to go either way.

After reading this and based on observations of my own I see that we are all organic portals. Organic portal doesn't just mean parasite. By the virtue of the word we are organic portals. We have the ability though to be a portal for the divine or a portal for such constructs as Vivek is expressing .

The malign influences that flavor our world are the ones the article expresses. Genetically geared towards not expressing any sort of higher energy whatsoever and basically possessed of only a consciousness. <<< How we got their mind.

There are many old ancient myths that describe how veils fell and we got caught in this world without Source. Or that our Source was usurped by parasitical energies that took their thrones. Our earliest queens and kings were such people who care took their people by being organic portals for divine love and energy, until parasitical influences usurped those thrones. The descendants of those kings and queens are still among us.

But the end result is the same we have to be portals for what Vivek is describing in the most optimal way possible and the only way to do that is having an exploration of what in our origins happened to interfere with what was once a naturally occurring event.

[Mark]

More probably I notice a lot of sort of hybrids that constitute most of the population neither here nor there but having the component to go either way.

If this idea bears any merit, then I perceive your formulation of it to be exact. As a grudging statistician I often think in terms of bell curves. If the median point of the bell curve separating the extremes of pre-adamic and adamic is indicative of a psyche that is exactly between the two extremes, then half of the population will fall closer to the full expression of pre-adamic modalities and the other half toward the full expression of adamic modalities. For individuals whose base orientation lies closer to the adamic expression, taking on sociopathic tendencies in order to succeed in life will have more psychic ramifications, while for the individuals whose base orientation lies closer to the pre-adamic expression, doing so will only be manifesting their natural tendency toward that extreme, with correspondingly weaker psychic repercussions than their counterpart on the other side of the bell curve and, of course, vice versa.


After reading this and based on observations of my own I see that we are all organic portals. Organic portal doesn't just mean parasite. By the virtue of the word we are organic portals. We have the ability though to be a portal for the divine or a portal for such constructs as Vivek is expressing .

The "fall" as mentioned in Laura Knight-Jadzyck's article on Organic Portals may also correspond to the suturing of the psychic connection mentioned in this thread as the loss of bicamerality. The disconnection of the human collective from the consciousness of Gaia, as she sought to minimize and protect herself from the growing influence of the Archonic incursion that was then beginning to permeate the cultural mentifacts and artifacts of nascent Western culture. The historical timing and tie-in with the gradual decline of the Egyptian kingdoms and their subsequent takeover by western Asian invaders and then the Greeks, the destruction of the temples and libraries and the mass adoption of Egyptian mores, gods and goddesses by the Greeks, the science of the Philosophers who studied in Egypt and took what they learned back to Greece, forming the knowledge base of Western civilization, which then evolved past City-States and into the Roman, Archon-dominated religious, economic and political hegemonic structure that continues to comprise the base ideology of our current system.

This "fall" brought adamic and pre-adamic peoples to a form of lower-chakra resonation and perceptive parity, as the adamics lost their ability to directly connect to Gaia and, also to a greater or lesser extent, to generally communicate with other non-physical beings. Also, on a related note, the "voices" being heard in the heads of those who lived during the "Golden Age", rather than just being the projections of one hemisphere of the brain as directives to the other, could indeed have been the voices of discarnate entities or Gaia herself, although the latter was probably relegated to her Priests or Priestesses during orgiastic and psychotropic drug-induced trance states.

So we are all organic portals to the extent that we remain unconscious. That we choose ignorance over knowledge. That we do not cultivate the higher faculties. That we do not silence the discursiveness within, which is the way that we effectively compromise ourselves and how the Archons use our own basal tendencies to compromise us even further and even more damningly.


Genetically geared towards not expressing any sort of higher energy whatsoever and basically possessed of only a consciousness. <<< How we got their mind.

I agree. I've read it elsewhere and seen it discussed that one of the capabilities that the Elites have is to act as receptacles or channels for non-physical possession. This is a part of the in-breeding process, apparently. They - only partially unconsciously- select over centuries for those with the questionable gifts of expressing certain personal and psychological tendencies that correlate greatly to our current understanding of psychopathy, but that are also indicative of a weak and dissipative personality structure, able to be erased - temporarily or even permanently - by the arrival of a stronger and more willful extra-dimensional visitor, who has probably been inhabiting the bodies of these Aristocrats and Royals for generations. I'd expect these are perfect vehicles for their purposes.

On the other side of the equation are those who are able to express the spirit's gifts - and to honor the remembered divine connection to higher energy sources - whose orientation corresponds to your following words:


Our earliest queens and kings were such people who care took their people by being organic portals for divine love and energy, until parasitical influences usurped those thrones. The descendants of those kings and queens are still among us.

I'm curious as to your detailed thoughts regarding those descendants, 9E9, if you don't mind sharing.


But the end result is the same we have to be portals for what Vivek is describing in the most optimal way possible and the only way to do that is having an exploration of what in our origins happened to interfere with what was once a naturally occurring event.

Again agreed fully. In order to have that "exploration of what in our origins happened to interfere with what was once a naturally occurring event", we have to first know about our origins. Difficult, to be sure, given all of the mis-information, deliberate and just natural obscuration caused by the passage of time. This is a hard conversation. Hard not only because of the lack of full knowledge, but also because the conversation is marked for self-destruction by cultural and also esoteric time-bombs planted all along its course. There are a lot of potential flash points at many different points. Talking about race, human origins, psychic abilities and innate human capacities can give rise to a lot of emotional detritus that are the fodder of the Archons, and that can destabilize and derail these conversations if we allow ourselves to fall prey to the emotional issues that arise with them.

But, somehow, I don't think that'll be much of an issue with you, 9E9. Thanks for engaging, Grail Maiden.

[Jeffrey]

Vivek, you stated that you are coming to the conclusion that there are two kinds of people on Earth but you did not state how you think they are different.

I will do that now.

Again, I am only sharing ideas.

I found this link you provided surprising -- http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

Much of the conclusions in that link were from channeled sources, and I'm usually leery of such sources. I have drawn similar "denouements" (in concept, not in details) independently through research and reasoning. That is why I found it surprising.

Consider morphogenetics -- how form arises. The entire universe is energy. This extends also to the most basal forms of matter. Matter is a form of energy. The Father is indicative of the Monad, or the cosmic center of the universe, while the Mother is the Soul of the cosmos -- being the womb of the material universe. This materiality extends to all that we cannot directly perceive (i.e. different forms of energy). It includes that which we can measure only through observations of it's effects (just like gravity).

I have played with the idea that those that came into existence right after the Father-Mother complex (forethought, foreknowledge, will, deed, etc.) were alluding to forces of nature (i.e. gravity, electromagnetism, etc). Science has decided to break up the forces of nature according to science. When spirituality approaches nature with the same aim (of acquiring knowledge about the way of things) it might categorize things differently. They are both attempting to describe the same thing.

From the Apochryphon of John:




And the mind wanted to perform a deed through the word of the invisible Spirit. And his will became a deed and it appeared with the mind; and the light glorified it. And the word followed the will. For because of the word, Christ the divine Autogenes created everything. And the eternal life <and> his will and the mind and the foreknowledge attended and glorified the invisible Spirit and Barbelo, for whose sake they had come into being.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

This is an interesting term -- autogenes.




au·tog·e·nous (ô-tj-ns) also au·to·gen·ic (ôt-jnk) adj.



1. Produced from within; self-generating.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/autogenic

That is the definition. For some reason, conceptually, it makes me think of genes, which makes me think of DNA -- helical, spiral, gyral.

Auto - gene.

Everything is the universe is in motion. That motion can be deduced to a gyral motion. Planets spin, stars spin, galaxies spin, and everything is in a state of revolution. Personally, I think that this gyral motion results from the very geometry of space itself (I am not alone on this). It may be this characteristic of space that gives objects mass. In other words, matter is the result of energy spiraling in subatomic vortices -- incomprehensibly fast. It is possible that gravity results from the inhalation of energy from these vortices (combining matter compounds these effects), and that there is a repelling, exhaling aspect to gravity that has yet to be identified. This particular vein may be more suitable for the, The Mechanics of the Matrix, thread.

My point is the macrocosmic aspect of the Christ Autogene may represent this gyre nature. The Autogene being the resultant production, or the symbolically androgynous son, of the interplay between the the universal Spirit and the cosmic Soul.

When these subatomic vortices volute energy the energy goes to a point at the tip of the vortex. This would create a mini-Monad within each atom.




In the Upanisads it is explained that there are two types of souls which are technically known as jiva-atma and param-atma. Jiva-atma, or the individual soul, is the living entity and param-atma refers to the Supreme Lord who expands Himself as the Supersoul, who enters into the hearts of all living entities as well as all atoms.

Source: http://www.yoga-philosophy.com/eng/2souls.htm

There is more to this, and it's most likely not this simple. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate post to elaborate on this idea in particular.

Back to forms and morphogenetics. The natural development of life would innately reflect the patterns above it. It may be more intricate, but the pattern remains the same. As with fractals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal). The pattern is the same, but the deeper it goes into replication from it's template, the more complicated it becomes. Yet, the idiom remains true -- as above, so below.

DNA is gyre. It is helical in nature. The spiral staircase is the popular analogy, but it goes even further than this. It is packages itself in a gyred nature as well.

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The kundalini is also coiled and rises in a gyred nature.

Regarding DNA -- it contains a lot of information. Now, a majority of the human genome consists of non-coding DNA.

From Wikipedia:




In genomics and related disciplines, noncoding DNA sequences are components of an organism's DNA that do not encode protein sequences. Some noncoding DNA is transcribed into functional noncoding RNA molecules (e.g. transfer RNA, ribosomal RNA, and regulatory RNAs), while others are not transcribed or give rise to RNA transcripts of unknown function. The amount of noncoding DNA varies greatly among species. For example, fully 98% of the human genome is noncoding DNA, while only about 2% of a typical bacterial genome is noncoding DNA.

Initially, a large proportion of noncoding DNA had no known biological function and was therefore sometimes referred to as "junk DNA", particularly in the lay press. Some sequences may have no biological function for the organism, such as endogenous retroviruses. However, many types of noncoding DNA sequences do have important biological functions, including the transcriptional and translational regulation of protein-coding sequences. Other noncoding sequences have likely, but as-yet undetermined, functions. (This is inferred from high levels of homology and conservation seen in sequences that do not encode proteins but, nonetheless, appear to be under heavy selective pressure.)

[...]

Junk DNA remains a label for the portions of a genome sequence for which no discernible function had been identified. According to a 1980 review in Nature by Leslie Orgel and Francis Crick, junk DNA has "little specificity and conveys little or no selective advantage to the organism". The term is used mainly in popular science and in a colloquial way in scientific publications. "Scientific American" claims that its connotations may have slowed research into the biological functions of noncoding DNA.

Several lines of evidence indicate that some "junk DNA" sequences are likely to have unidentified functional activity, and other sequences may have had functions in the past. Recently junk DNA sequences were artificially expressed resulting in the synthesis of functional proteins. In 2012, the ENCODE project, a research program supported by the National Human Genome Research Institute, reported that 76% of the human genome's noncoding DNA sequences were transcribed and that nearly half of the genome was in some way accessible to genetic regulatory proteins such as transcription factors. This, however, does not necessarily mean that all of these segments have true biochemical function.

Still, a significant amount of the sequence of the genomes of eukaryotic organisms currently appears to fall under no existing classification other than "junk".

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA#Junk_DNA

Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=597469&viewfull=1#post597469) (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.

This is the form that the coding DNA follows. The coding DNA provides the bricks and mortar, while portions of the non-coding DNA provide (i.e. project the form) the blueprints.

Another thing that may be passed on genetically is memory. It is dormant within our DNA. This is truly our connection to our ancestors, and also to any past traumas our species went through. This memory would also include archetypes and the like. It is accessed through form. To read it would be like reading a book, to view it would be like viewing a hologram (it might be intense, like nearly experiencing it). I have explored a physiological, physics base mechanism in which this could actually be possible here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=597469&viewfull=1#post597469) (the portion about the pineal gland).




"Down in the depths of every human being, there is an ancestral, visceral [* visceral- obtained through intuition rather than from reasoning or observation] knowledge about the predators' existence." - Don Juan

Just think about how much information can be encoded by binary systems (ones and zeros). Now, imagine how much information could be contained in a quaternary system (A,G,T,C). Just around 2% of the human genome accounts for the bricks and mortar of each and every complexity in the human body. So much is contained in that 2% alone, imagine the potential amount of information in the rest.

It's all very fascinating.

Now, the kundalini. It is of a partly biological nature. Think about how the kundalini is there in the first place. It must have been developed by biological and morphogenetic mechanisms. The kundalini is autogenous.

There is a form projected from some aspect of DNA. The subtle morphology creates an embankment and literally dams the energy into a coil that would otherwise be gyred up the spine.

The kundalini was connected, flowing up the spine into the higher centers in the Tree of (eternal) Life and the Tree of Knowledge. It would've been in a naturally arisen state. Therefore, I think these original humans would've been luminous beings.

From the article, Humans glow in the dark:




Amazing pictures of "glittering" human bodies have been released by Japanese scientists who have captured the first ever images of human "bioluminescence".

[...]

Strangely, the areas that produced the brightest light did not correspond with the brightest areas on thermal images of the volunteers' bodies.

The light is a thousand times weaker than the human eye can perceive.

[...]

Human bioluminescence has been suspected for years, but until now the cameras required to detect such dim light sources took over an hour to capture a single image and so were unable to measure the constantly fluctuating light from living creatures.

While the practical applications of the discovery are hard to imagine, one can't help wondering what further surprises the human body has in store for us.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/jul/17/human-bioluminescence

The "spiritual circuitry" of the innate morphogenetic field of the natural humans would've been complete -- and they would've been luminous. These humans were probably (I'm basing this off the Gnostic scriptures) androgynous in form, yet manifested different aspects of masculine/feminine energy in different degrees.

The connection was severed though, and the circuit was broken -- now the spiritual cord lies at the base of the spine, waiting to be plugged in, waiting for it's gyred ascent.

Not only this, but principalities were established via physical genders.

This descent may have been purposeful, in order to rectify the deficiency (referred to numerous times in the Nag Hammadi).

Then there was another race. Made in the likeness of the first, but with the counterfeit spirit of a skewed, foreign nature.

From the Apochryphon of John:




And he made a plan with his powers. He sent his angels to the daughters of men, that they might take some of them for themselves and raise offspring for their enjoyment. And at first they did not succeed. When they had no success, they gathered together again and they made a plan together. They created a counterfeit spirit, who resembles the Spirit who had descended, so as to pollute the souls through it. And the angels changed themselves in their likeness into the likeness of their mates (the daughters of men), filling them with the spirit of darkness, which they had mixed for them, and with evil.

[...]

They (the people) became old without having enjoyment. They died, not having found truth and without knowing the God of truth. And thus the whole creation became enslaved forever, from the foundation of the world until now. And they took women and begot children out of the darkness according to the likeness of their spirit. And they closed their hearts, and they hardened themselves through the hardness of the counterfeit spirit until now.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

I think this second race was lacking something that the first race had. It may be a morphological construct that is encoded in the original, natural DNA of the first humans. This construct may provide a conduit that allows an intrinsic energy to manifest itself.

This might be the kundalini.

The two races intermixed gene pools. This affected the morphological, subtle constructs of both races.

One race is without the necessary form for this energy to develop (encoded by DNA), while the other race has this construct functioning fully (the kundalini is in it's risen state -- luminous beings).

Then something happened to the first race. Hormonal changes (signaled from the hypothalamus/pituitary) instigated sexual differentiation. This allows for copulation and in turn interbreeding of the two races.

The in-between, morphological result would be the kundalini construct in a fallen state. It's there, but not functioning at full capacity and it's not in it's ascended state.

The amalgamated morphological template (resulting from intermixing the two species) now forms a subtle embankment which effectively leaves this energy in a coiled, dormant state.

The Gnostics scriptures infer that this was done on purpose. The two races were meant to interbreed in order to rectify the deficiency.*

As you have already suggested, the two races don't have to do with skin color, rather a kind of "spiritual capacity" maybe. The key difference is in DNA, and not the portion that encodes proteins (i.e. bricks and mortar). It's more of a spiritual, morphological ancestry that's in our DNA. It's about a heritage that's more internal rather than external (albeit, some physical characteristics may develop in extreme cases).

I'd imagine that most of the population lies within the bell curve -- assuming it's not skewed. The outliers on one end would be the interbreeding elite, while on the other end would be their "supernal" opposites (they would probably be more aware of there role, their history, etc).

This would be known to be a war to both extremes.

Those within the average of the bell curve may have a latent propensity to embrace either polarity -- a devil on their left shoulder and an angel on their right. They are caught in a flux between righteousness and oblivion -- trying to find their way in the world.

This is why distraction is so key, because there is an undiscovered potential within the majority of humanity. This potential would be what they Gnostic scriptures refer to as Epinoia of the light (i.e. in the pineal gland) -- she subtly tries to guide humanity to teach the dormant power within them the way of ascent (i.e. to raise the kundalini, the power from the Mother).

The socioeconomic climate of the world, coupled with consumerism and the entertainment industry, provides a highly effective means of distracting those within the marginal average from actualizing the natural aspects of their spiritual heritage.

There is also the ritualistic blood drinking to take into account. Think about that now within the context of the previous paragraphs. The blood contains DNA. The purer bloodlines would drink of it in order to maintain purity. On the other extreme, the hopelessly corrupt would beastly indulge in blood drinking rituals out of a need to survive -- they are attempting to replenish a well with no water.

The Bible says each child is born with original sin. That begins to make sense within the context of deficiencies, morphogenetics, and intermixing species of anthropoids.

Original sin would be in the DNA. It represents some foreign, deficient forming portion of DNA that structures our subtle bodies with certain inhibitions (such as knotted chakras, the kundalini being coiled at the base of the spine, etc) ...

Now, as for group souls and reincarnation. There may be two kinds of souls. The Soul that is produced from Spirit (i.e. the womb that springs forth from the Monad). This Soul is created based on the pure, macrocosmic patterns above. The other type of soul is produced from the currents (like prana) that flow through the subtle causeways of our morphogenetic constructs. The concept is the same in physics -- a moving electrical charge will produce a magnetic field. The electric charge is akin to the subtle, spiritual currents. By the virtue of movement a field is created which is akin to the other type of soul. This type of soul is likely the equivalent of Castedena's luminous eggs.

Now, reincarnation.

Past lives would also be encoded into our DNA if indeed portions of our non-coding DNA detail an ancestral history. So, maybe my morphological construct is extremely similar to one that lived a few centuries back. That would mean my DNA is similar in many respects. Maybe I physically look similar to how he looked. Maybe I think similarly to how he thought. His memories may exist as information imprinted within the vast storehouse of data in my own particular DNA.

Past life regression therapy may tap into this aspect of our DNA and we are able to access past memories subconsciously because they are encoded by the same portions of our DNA that dictate our morphogenetic constructs. So, it's not that the same soul reincarnates, but it is closely re-formed from however the information was left in the DNA and according to the formulation of the subtle causeways in our morphological construct/subtle body (there are many more factors to acknowledge).

This would mean that reincarnation is a phenomena that is largely passed along genetically. This idea runs into problems because if someone doesn't bear any offspring then their memories/experiences/constructs aren't passed along. This is just an idea though, it doesn't have to be a definitive answer. There may be another mechanism at play that would patch that problem, but that'll have to be for another post.


I believe you, Vivek, have stated that you believe the Archons to be some sort of inanimate and therefore inferior form of consciousness that finds its "intention" only within its human hosts. I think that is possible, but I also think it is quite dangerous to minimize the workings of the Mind Parasites and to under-estimate their total immersion within the consciousnesses of those who are not self-conscious and able to control and monitor their own thought processes to the extent that they are the walking dead, effectively zombies slave to their own - and the parasites - inner urges.

I have played with this idea. I also think the term, malignant thought-form, may be better suited to describe their essence. Nonetheless, I never intended to downplay the seriousness of their influence. My intentions are to lessen the fear inherent to their mystery. Regardless of intent, I think the gruesome nature of their effects are extremely severe and shouldn't be ignored.

Your post had a lot in it, I have yet to address it all.

Everything I have just shared is all speculation. To quote a good friend -- I don't have to believe everything I think.

Rest assured the gears are turning, and I do have some more ideas.

* Here's some more thoughts on rectifying the deficiency. The macrocosmic aspect of Christ is the gyre. The Spiritual and semi-biological aspect of Christ (or the function of Christ) would be the kundalini. Here is a relevant excerpt from the Bible:




And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:14

Here is the Alchemical Cross (or crucified serpent):

http://symboldictionary.net/library/graphics/symbols/serpentcross.jpg




The gruesome symbol of a crucified serpent is an old alchemical drawing representing the “fixing of the volatile,” or, making the elixir of mercury, a legendary curative, by removing the ‘volatile’ or poisonous element. The picture is derived from the biblical story of Moses, who erected a brazen snake as a charm against plague.

Source: http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1363

Notice it represents the "fixing of the volatile" or in other words -- rectifying the deficiency.

http://0.tqn.com/d/altreligion/1/0/k/3/1/salchemy20.jpg

The symbology of this is two fold.

The serpent power rises up and fixes the volatile. By fixing the volatile it purifies the body. The kundalini rises through the central nervous system. The morphological construct of the central nervous system is the archontic tree of life and simultaneously represents the morphological construct of the demiurge (as described in earlier posts). The Tree of Knowledge is also in the same place, but it is overshadowed by the archontic tree of life (knowledge in the shadow of ignorance).

By purifying the archontic tree of life the subtle, morphological deficiency "dies" (i.e. it is rectified/purified/fixed). This is symbolized by the crucified snake -- which represents the twisted, morphogenetic form of the archontic tree of life.

From the Gospel of Philip:




So also with the tree: while its root is hidden, it sprouts and grows. If its root is exposed, the tree dries up. So it is with every birth that is in the world, not only with the revealed but with the hidden. For so long as the root of wickedness is hidden, it is strong. But when it is recognized, it is dissolved. When it is revealed, it perishes. That is why the Word says, "Already the axe is laid at the root of the trees" (Mt 3:10). It will not merely cut - what is cut sprouts again - but the ax penetrates deeply, until it brings up the root. Jesus pulled out the root of the whole place, while others did it only partially. As for ourselves, let each one of us dig down after the root of evil which is within one, and let one pluck it out of one's heart from the root. It will be plucked out if we recognize it. But if we are ignorant of it, it takes root in us and produces its fruit in our heart. It masters us. We are its slaves. It takes us captive, to make us do what we do not want; and what we do want, we do not do. It is powerful because we have not recognized it. While it exists it is active. Ignorance is the mother of all evil. Ignorance will result in death, because those who come from ignorance neither were nor are nor shall be. [...] will be perfect when all the truth is revealed. For truth is like ignorance: while it is hidden, it rests in itself, but when it is revealed and is recognized, it is praised, inasmuch as it is stronger than ignorance and error. It gives freedom. The Word said, "If you know the truth, the truth will make you free" (Jn 8:32). Ignorance is a slave. Knowledge is freedom. If we know the truth, we shall find the fruits of the truth within us. If we are joined to it, it will bring our fulfillment.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gop.html

What is left (after the morphogenetic root of the archontic tree of life dries up) is the natural Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of (eternal) Life which the power of the kundalini reaches to meet the eagle (Epinoia). This process would open the chakras, purify the nadis, and restore the body to it's natural, luminous state.

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I'm sure there are other interesting correlations to be made. Maybe this post stirred up some ideas.

[Jeffrey]

I think this second race was lacking something that the first race had. It may be a morphological construct that is encoded in the original, natural DNA. This construct may provide a conduit that allows an intrinsic energy to manifest itself.

This might be the kundalini.

The two races intermixed gene pools. This affected the morphological, subtle constructs of both races. One race is without the necessary form for this energy to develop (encoded by DNA), while the other race has this construct functioning fully (the kundalini is in it's risen state -- luminous beings).

Then something happened to the first race. Hormonal changes (signaled from the hypothalamus/pituitary) instigated sexual differentiation. This allows for copulation and in turn interbreeding of the two races.

The in-between, morphological result would be the kundalini construct in a fallen state. It's there, but not functioning at full capacity and it's not in it's ascended state. The amalgamated morphological template now forms a subtle embankment which effectively leaves this energy in a coiled, dormant state.

[...]

The two races don't suggest differences in skin color. The key difference is in DNA, and not the portion that encodes proteins (i.e. bricks and mortar). It's more of a spiritual, morphological ancestry that's in our DNA. It's about a heritage that's more internal rather than external (albeit, some physical characteristics may develop in extreme cases).

I'd imagine that most of the population lies within the bell curve -- assuming it's not skewed. The outliers on one end would be the interbreeding elite, while on the other end would be their "supernal" opposites (they would probably be more aware of there role, their history, etc).

The symbolic representation of the natural race could be the dragon.

The serpent power was one with the eagle which makes it an emblematic dragon. The symbology of the two animals were originally one. When the fall happened the kundalini descended -- giving rise to two distinct symbols. The serpent and the eagle.

The dragon should be distinguished from the winged snake.

One is fiery, the other is poison.

One is natural, the other is an imitator.

One purifies, the other is malignant.

This ties into Dragon Bloodlines versus the serpent seed. The two ends of the extremes.


There is also the ritualistic blood drinking to take into account. Think about that now within the context of the previous paragraphs. The blood contains DNA. The purer bloodlines would drink of it in order to maintain purity. On the other extreme, the hopelessly corrupt would beastly indulge in blood drinking rituals out of a need to survive -- they are attempting to replenish a well with no water.

DNA exists within the leukocytes of the blood (it exists in all cells except red blood cells). Leukocytes are white blood cells.

The white blood cell count in the bloodstream increases as an immunological response to stress.

Immune responses can be caused by antigens or emotional stress (i.e. pain, anxiety, fear) ...

This causes more leukocytes to be in the blood, and therefore more DNA.

Also, a note on mitochondria.




Number of Copies - There are only 2 Nuclear DNA Molecules in each cell as opposed to 100's to 1000's of Mitochondrial DNA per cell.

Inheritance - mtDNA is typically passed on only from the mother during sexual reproduction (mitochondrial genetics), meaning that the mitochondria are clones. This means that there is little change in the mtDNA from generation to generation, unlike nuclear DNA which is inherited from both the Mother and Father and changes by 50% each generation.

Source: http://www.dnahandbook.com/pages/10176.htm

There are thought to be tens of trillions of cells in the human body. That's a lot of mitochondrial DNA.

[Jeffrey]

This post ties into the last two posts (and the rest of the thread in general).

When describing the possible metaphors of the trees, one was left out.

It is the olive tree.

From, On the Origin of the World:




The effect of this tree is described in the Sacred Book, to wit: "It is you who are the tree of knowledge, which is in Paradise, from which the first man ate and which opened his mind; and he loved his female counterpart and condemned the other, alien likenesses and loathed them."

Now after it, the olive tree sprouted up, which was to purify the kings and the high priests of righteousness, who were to appear in the last days, since the olive tree appeared out of the light of the first Adam for the sake of the unguent that they were to receive.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

The olive tree may represent the choroid plexus. If this is the case then the olive oil, or unguent, would be cerebrospinal fluid.

http://www.quailridgeolives.co.nz/images/olive-trees-4.jpg

From, Human Microscopic Anatomy:




The choroid plexus is an organ in the form of very ramified folds and villous-like processes, projecting from the pia mater [latin for tender mother] into brain ventricles.

Source (http://books.google.com/books?id=hB6nqQCPKBoC&pg=PA498&lpg=PA498&dq=choroid+plexus+pia+mater+epithelial+cells&source=bl&ots=ZwIDhV2zgo&sig=MIeBv9cZFO-e9DusuNHPFdN8IO0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XibjUI_lB4S-9QTq3IG4DA&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=choroid%20plexus%20pia%20mater%20epithelial%20cells&f=false)

The villous-like processes represent the olive leaves. The olives would be the ependymal cells.

From Wikipedia:




Ependymal cells, also named ependymocytes, line the cavities of the CNS and make up the walls of the ventricles. These cells create and secrete cerebrospinal fluid(CSF) and beat their cilia to help circulate the CSF and make up the Blood-CSF barrier. They are also thought to act as neural stem cells.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroglia

These ependymal cells represent an olive tree too (fractals). There cilia would be like the leaves that surround the unguent-producing olive.

From Wikipedia:




The ependyma is made up of ependymal cells. These are the epithelial-like cells that line the CSF-filled ventricles in the brain and the central canal of the spinal cord. The cells are ciliated simple cuboidal epithelium-like cells. Their apical surfaces are covered in a layer of cilia, which circulate CSF around the central nervous system.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ependymal_cells

Cerebrospinal fluid cleans the brain (and rinses metabolic waste from the entire central nervous system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebrospinal_fluid#Functions)).

From, esciencenews.com :




"Waste clearance is of central importance to every organ, and there have been long-standing questions about how the brain gets rid of its waste," said Maiken Nedergaard, M.D., D.M.Sc., senior author of the paper and co-director of the University's Center for Translational Neuromedicine. "This work shows that the brain is cleansing itself in a more organized way and on a much larger scale than has been realized previously."

[...]

Nedergaard's team has dubbed the new system "the glymphatic system," since it acts much like the lymphatic system but is managed by brain cells known as glial cells.

[...]

Scientists have known that cerebrospinal fluid or CSF plays an important role cleansing brain tissue, carrying away waste products and carrying nutrients to brain tissue through a process known as diffusion. The newly discovered system circulates CSF to every corner of the brain much more efficiently, through what scientists call bulk flow or convection.

"It's as if the brain has two garbage haulers -- a slow one that we've known about, and a fast one that we've just met," said Nedergaard. "Given the high rate of metabolism in the brain, and its exquisite sensitivity, it's not surprising that its mechanisms to rid itself of waste are more specialized and extensive than previously realized."

While the previously discovered system works more like a trickle, percolating CSF through brain tissue, the new system is under pressure, pushing large volumes of CSF through the brain each day to carry waste away more forcefully.

Source: http://esciencenews.com/articles/2012/08/15/scientists.discover.previously.unknown.cleaning.system.brain

The olive tree sprouted up "to purify the kings and the high priests of righteousness."

Emmanuel Swedenborg describes the cerebrospinal fluid as "spiritous lymph." I'm not sure if this is different from spirituous fluid (which sounds closer to prana than cerebrospinal fluid).

From, The Swedenborg Scientific Association:




Swedenborg's anatomical studies resulted in a major, two-part treatise on human anatomy, which he published in 1740, Economy of the Animal Kingdom (better titled The Dynamics of the Soul's Domain). Part I treats anatomically and philosophically of the blood, its arteries and veins, the heart, and “rational psychology“; Part II treats of the brain and the human soul. He introduces this dissertation with the powerful statement that “the blood is as it were the complex of all things that exist in the world, and the storehouse and seminary of all that exists is the body.”
He then methodically demonstrates that the soul, considered as the living spirit of intelligence and will, is present in the brain and throughout the body through the blood, whose inmost constituent is the “spirituous fluid, ” the vehicle of the soul.

[...]

Swedenborg explains that because the “spirituous fluid” is the body's first, simplest, highest, inmost, remotest, and most perfect substance--because it is formed of the primal aura of the universe, and partakes of no terrestrial matter--because it is entirely above the world, and the nature of posterior things; and because it is the one only substance in its body that lives; “as surely as these positions are true, so surely does it follow, that a fluid with such endowments is absolutely safe from any harm. . . . And when emancipated from the bonds and trammels of earthly things, it will assume the exact form of the human body.” For the physical body itself, he says, is the “complex of the forms of the soul”--which is to say, the form of the soul and its body are essentially the same. And this new existence of the soul will be a life “pure beyond imagination.”

Source: http://swedenborg-philosophy.org/philosophy/index.php?page=1013

The Bible describes a river in the Garden of Eden.




Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers. - Genesis 2:10

Assuming the Garden (with all of it's trees and fruits) represents the brain and it's glands, then a river in the Garden would correlate with cerebrospinal fluid meandering around the brain.

From Wikipedia:




The ventricles are filled with cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) which bathes and cushions the brain and spinal cord within their bony confines. Cerebrospinal fluid is produced by modified ependymal cells of the choroid plexus found in all components of the ventricular system except for the cerebral aqueduct and the posterior and anterior horns of the lateral ventricles. CSF flows from the lateral ventricles via the foramina of Monro into the third ventricle, and then the fourth ventricle via the cerebral aqueduct in the brainstem. From there it can pass into the central canal of the spinal cord or into the cisterns of the subarachnoid space via three small foramina.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventricular_system#Flow_of_cerebrospinal_fluid

So, the cerebrospinal fluid waters the Garden, or brain. It flows out of the garden and splits into four rivers -- "flowing through the central canal of the spinal cord or into the cisterns of the subarachnoid space via three small foramina."

From the Forgotten Books of Eden:




And Adam and Eve went from before the gate of the garden to the southern side of it, and found there the water that watered the garden, from the root of the Tree of Life, and that split itself from there into four rivers over the earth.

Source: http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

Back to the ependymal cells of the olive tree. They have, and require, a higher than average amount of mitochondria.

There is also a connection with the energy of the kundalini and mitochondria.

This is something I haven't had time to mull over as much, but here is a link I'm digging through.

http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=Autolysis-SelfDigestion

I'm wrapping this up quickly, sorry I'm so scatter brained! :p

Still have to touch on the kundalini, mitochondria, and the Tree of Knowledge possibly representing the cerebellum. Also, the chrism (olive oil and balsam) has interesting correlations in this light too. Be back soon!

[Jeffrey]

This ties into post #'s 31,32,33,34, and 35.

Some dialogue from The Matrix:




Morpheus: "I imagine that right now you're feeling a little like Alice, tumbling down the rabbit-hole… I can see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees, because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, this is not far from the truth… Let me tell you why you are here. You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But, you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?"

Neo: "The Matrix?"

Morpheus: "Do you want to know what it is?"

Neo: (nods)

Morpheus: "The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us, even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when you go to church, or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth."

Neo: "What truth?"

Morpheus: "That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

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Very Gnostic. Now, here is dialogue from an exchange between Don Juan and Carlos Castaneda:




"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The Predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner... Indeed we are held prisoner!

"This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

"Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? ... You haven't heard all the claims yet. I want to appeal to your analytical mind. Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behaviour. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

"'But how can they do this, don Juan? [Carlos] asked, somehow angered further by what [don Juan] was saying. "'Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver; stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."

"I know that even though you have never suffered hunger... you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its manoeuvre is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with the idea of when [the predator] made its appearance on Earth. They reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then, everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man. What I'm saying is that what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat."

"There are no more dreams for man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised to become a piece of meat: trite, conventional, imbecilic."

From, On the Origin of the World:




And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

And back to Don Juan:




"In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver; stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."

These would be subtle, morphogenetic constructs encoded in our DNA.

The DNA can be likened to computer code. There is a virus in the programming of our natural DNA. It gets passed along (morpho)genetically -- this is original sin.

This is the matrix, the veil, the virus in the programming of our morphogenetic selves.

It is the morphogenetic, subtle construct that is the archontic tree of life.

It shades us in ignorance.

Just some ideas.

[Jeffrey]

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Imagine the cordyceps (a parasitical fungus) being akin to the malignant energy and/or deficient, morphologenetic, subtle constructs.

[Jeffrey]

This post was copied and pasted from the "Luciferian Agenda" thread.

It relates to malignant/archontic energy (paralleling the predators described by Don Juan Matus) and the two spiritually distinct races of humans described in previous posts.




From Evening Talks With Sri Aurobindo

Disciple: Men are beings on the physical plane, but they have vital and mental and psychic parts. Do the beings of the vital plane possess also mental and psychic parts?

Sri Aurobindo: The vital and physical planes are different. On the physical plane there is evolution through different grades of beings: ours is a plane of evolution. On the vital plane there is no evolution. It is a plane of typal beings; there the consciousness does not evolve from one plane to another.

The animal has its consciousness held and imprisoned by the vital; and when it is ready the consciousness changes to the mental and the animal reincarnates as the human being. Some of our cats are ready for the human birth. In man that transition has taken place, he has crossed the border.

But the ordinary man can hardly be said to have a soul or the psychic being. The soul is there but it is covered up and very much behind.

Disciple: Do the Asuras have also the possibilities of man

Sri Aurobindo: No.

Disciple: Is there no progress for the Asura?

Sri Aurobindo: Not in the sense of evolution of consciousness.

Disciple: But you said that the Asura can be transformed or converted?

Sri Aurobindo: Yes. They can change their working and open to something higher.

Disciple: Is that what you meant by their being converted? Then can they help evolution?

Sri Aurobindo: Yes, they can manifest something higher than their vital nature and become instruments of the Divine. But generally they do not change.

Disciple: What becomes of the Asuras if they are not converted?

Sri Aurobindo: They can be annihilated; but if you ask what would happen at the end of the kalpa, well, it is difficult to answer. If they change then they can open themselves to something higher, and try to manifest it .

Disciple: Some of the Asuras are said to have practised Sadhana. What is their kind of Sadhana? You also said that they are very intelligent beings.

Sri Aurobindo: I never said that they have true ideas and great ideals and that they were great mental beings. What I said was that they were clever in carrying out their purpose, they know how to work out results.

Disciple: What is their place in evolution? Could it go on without them?

Sri Aurobindo: There is the old idea of devas and asuas – divine beings or Gods, – the titans – struggling to control human evolution. The Asuras are responsible for the great complexity of the world, but in my opinion they are not a necessity. The Asuras realise themselves through revolt, suffering, struggle, and difficulty. But the world could have evolved differently – more like a flower blooming from inside to outside. But the forces of the Asura-type entered the universal play of forces and perverted it. This is the truth known to almost all the religions: the snake – the evil, tempting Prakriti – Eve, – Prakriti deceiving Purusha – Adam. The Purusha consented and they fell: this they speak of as the fall of Adam, the cosmic man.

In India this struggle, – as to who should control the course of human evolution, – between the Devas and the Asuras expresses the same truth.

Disciple: What is then the truth in the Puranic idea of worshipping God through vaira bhava – feeling of "opposition", or hostility?

Sri Aurobindo: In the case of Ravana, and also of Hiranya Kashipu, they were human beings who became Asuras and chose the path of opposition to the Divine. It is really a fall and it shows that the course of evolution for man is not to become an Asura. That is to say, the course of human evolution is not from the animal to the vital being and then to the Asura. Asuric life is regarded as a fall for man. If you got converted Asuric nature then you lose the chance of your evolution.

Disciple: How should one protect oneself against the attacks and influence of the Asura?

Sri Aurobindo: Through purity and sincerity one is secure from the Asuras. They might give you blows, they might deceive and befog the mind, they might retard and make you commit mistakes but if you have the white light – of purity and sincerity – they cannot harm you. There is no definitive fall – you will go through.

Source: http://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/purani/2-0091.htm

Very strong parallels there.

More from Sri Aurobindo on Asuras:




The Asura has no soul, no psychic being which has to evolve to a higher state; he has only an ego and usually a very powerful ego; he has a mind, sometimes even a highly intellectualised mind; but the basis of his thinking and feeling is vital and not mental, at the service of his desire and not of truth. He is a formation assumed by the life-principle for a particular kind of work and not a divine formation or a soul.

[...]

The Asuras are really the dark side of the mental, or more strictly, of the vital mind plane. This mind is the very field of the Asuras. Their main characteristic is egoistic strength and struggle, which refuse the higher law.

Source: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~biedel/Victory/asura.html

[Chester]

Hi Vivek - you are on an incredible roll... now, perhaps, you can understand why I tried to defend Drake with regards to the "guilt by association" I felt you were implying as to "Dragon Studies" way back last May I believe... But I realize you were following your intuition there and were being honest all the way as to your dot connections - that's the big key - an honest, determined, pure-hearted person will always get to the deeper truths and you have certainly been doing so.

Anyways now, of course, it is clear Drake probably was/is archontically compromised and I feel I have the right to suggest this is true as I am definitely also archontically compromised (its a daily battle too - post # 2465 in Horus-Ra states just about every technique I have learned is a must to employ in this regard)... but anyways - I also made a post in that same thread you did where I stated a metaphorical story of "good" "Dragons" (the originals) and then later, the archontically compromised "off world" group and that I thought we should be careful not to throw all "reptilians" references under the same bus.

Your post # 2474 in Horus-Ra differentiates these groups of what might be ancestral beings and yet still uses a "reptilian" designator for each of the two groups - Dragon and "serpent" - thanks for the post...

also your matrix thread is so incredible pal - each posts is so deep - Rahkyt, 9eagle9, your posts and other great posts - I can't even keep up... I have to re-read several of them over many times.

I am the freaking "dracula" that "caught myself" so you guys at least got one "wanna be a good guy," archontically compromised goofball here BUT the good news about that is I am (of course) tapped into their "group mind" so who knows what may end up changing with a clown like me sending signals back the other way...

[Jeffrey]

That was me recklessly regurgitating partially digested information. I've learned not to speak in definitives because I really have no idea what's real.

Hence the playing around with ideas and not believing what I think.

I've gone back and read posts I've written a year ago and some of them make me cringe. The meeting of the minds here has helped me through a lot. I've had to pull my foot out of my mouth many times here and I continuously check to make sure my heads not in my arse. There was a post I made some time ago (within the year) where I vowed not to post recklessly and without deliberation. I'm trying my best to do that (albeit I've moved away from casting my opinions around and moved towards posting from a contemplative, creative standpoint). Anyways, I'm rambling.

And thanks!

:)

I also think there is a tangled symbolism regarding dragons, serpents, etc ...

Part of the process of separating the sand and sugar is understanding the differences in the terms (dragon, serpent, eagle, soul, spirit, etc) and the ideas behind them -- which is ongoing exploration of this thread.

[gripreaper]

I'd say you are zeroing right in on the true gnostic teachings of energetics, and how the split occurred. Great finds. Thanks.

[Mark]

Hi Vivek, great additions, once again, a lot to think about and consider. From Christianity, the Parable of the Tares:


Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

—Matthew 13:24-30,

The Enemy, or the Echthroi, seems to be implicit in many traditions which speak about its/their existence in couched terminology of extremely metaphoric construction for necessary reasons that I think have to do with coding the information for the knowledgeable and for future generations as the control of worldly institutions lies with the Archonic hierarchies. The above quote remains in the New Testament. For whatever reason, it was not removed during the Council of Nicea or later. It seems to be illustrative of the pervasive understanding that the Truth must be allowed its expression. It can be surrounded by lies, but it must be expressed.

On the Echthroi and the deep biological Mitochondria connection I return once again to Madeline L'Engle and a synopsis of the second book in her series, A Wind in the Door:


Meg Murry is worried about her brother Charles Wallace, a 6-year-old genius who is bullied at school by the other children. The new principal of the elementary school is the former high school principal, Mr. Jenkins, who often disciplined Meg, and who Meg is sure has a grudge against her whole family. Meg tries to enlist Jenkins's help in protecting her brother, but is unsuccessful. On top of this, Meg discovers that Charles Wallace has a progressive disease which is leaving him short of breath. Their mother, a microbiologist, suspects it may have something to do with his mitochondria and the farandolae that live within them.

One afternoon, Charles Wallace tells Meg he saw a "drive of dragons" in the vegetable garden in their back yard. Meg goes out with him to investigate, but all they find is a pile of very odd feathers. Later, Meg has a frightening encounter with something that looks like Mr. Jenkins. Meg, Charles Wallace, and Calvin O'Keefe discover that Charles Wallace's drive of dragons is a single creature named Proginoskes. Progo, as he is quickly nicknamed, insists on being called "a cherubim" instead of a cherub because he is "practically plural," having a multitude of wings and eyes. The children also encounter a tall robed being named Blajeny, who informs them that he is a Teacher, and that they and Proginoskes have all been called to his class. They also encounter a snake that lives in their wall, Louise the Larger, who is also a Teacher.

Meg learns that the galaxy is threatened by beings called Echthroi, who seek to erase the entire universe by un-Naming things. She soon has to save Mr. Jenkins from this fate, by Naming him. Part of the task is to distinguish the real Mr. Jenkins from two Echthroi doubles, but it also means that she must look past her personal grudge, find the goodness in Mr. Jenkins, and let herself love him.

The characters then learn that Echthroi are destroying Charles Wallace's farandolae. They travel inside one of his mitochondria, which is named Yadah, and turn the tide by convincing a larval farandola to take root and accept its role as a mature fara, against the urgings of an Echthros. In the process, Meg is nearly "Xed,"(unnamed) and Mr. Jenkins is invaded by his Echthros doubles. Proginoskes sacrifices himself to "fill in" the emptiness of the Echthroi, Charles Wallace's life is saved, and everything returns to normal.

It is a short journey from reading tales like this as children to the Gnostic Mysteries. I expect that Mrs. L'Engle is quite well-versed in them. I like using novels, movies and television shows in order to illustrate how the Western collective unconscious seems to be geared toward the expression of certain kinds of stories as opposed to others. How - either through deliberate Elite machinations, unconscious collective resonance or some combination of both - Science Fiction and Fantasy are neither, really, IMO. In an infinite reality with infinite universes, higher and lower dimensions, parallel realities and timelines, all potential thought-creations may find expression somewhere, somewhen. They are "channelings", if you will, that express the possibilities of other pathways taken by a multiversal humanity, all in service to the same creative urges, with the same motivations and the same, basic relationship to creation and being-ness. While the exactness of the science expressed in these stories may not necessarily be correct, the impetus toward consciousness implicit within all of form and matter is an expression of a living truth. From the link you shared with us regarding the Biology of Kundalini (http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=Autolysis-SelfDigestion):


In fact we must look to mitochondria as being the chief orchestrators of the entire kundalini alchemy. Mitochondria play a central role in apoptosis by amplifying and mediating extrinsic apoptotic pathways, and in the integration and propagation of death signals originating from inside the cell such as DNA damage, oxidative stress, starvation. Apoptosis is most often induced through the disruption of the mitochondrial inner transmembrane potential and through a sudden increase in the permeability of the inner mitochondrial membrane. This causes an influx of water by osmosis into the mitochondria with the eventual rupture of the outer mitochondrial membrane, resulting in the release of pro-apoptotic proteins from the mitochondrial intermembrane space into the cytoplasm. Proteins released start a apoptosic cascade, ATP synthesis is stopped and free radical generation exceeds the cells antioxidant capacities leading to the oxidation of lipids, proteins, and nucleic acids.

The apoptosis signalling pathways in viable cells are kept in an inactive state and are only turned on in response to a death stimulus. It is thought that all cells of a multicellular animal might be intrinsically programmed to self-destruct and would die instantaneously unless cell death is continuously repressed by survival signals from growth factors, antioxidants, hormones, nutrients. These anti-apoptotic regulatory molecules keep in check the activation of pro-apoptotic factors. During a die-off however the pro-apoptotic factors become dominant and an exquisite cascade of cell death and self-digestion is set in motion.

The biological details that you've taken the time to research and incorporate within your musings is key to the realization that it goes much deeper than we are generally willing to believe. To know that DNA has memory, that the seemingly random tales and metaphoric writings were detailing very specific and highly relevant bodily geographies and assigning higher spiritual principles to their subtle workings is to realize that, as far as integrative understandings of the nature of reality are concerned, modern science has quite a long way to go. It also actualizes the knowledge, connects what could be abstract to very real biological potentialities.

The difficulty in accepting your last conclusion regarding original sin should be apparent. In a space such as that created by individuals seeking deeper spiritual truths beyond the institutional structures of society - and, with an almost reflexive bias against Christianity - accepting that the concept of original sin has biological origins is akin to throwing a grenade into a box of nukes. The Gnostics considered the God of Judaism, Yahweh, to be the Demiurge, Yaldabaoth, the false creator god. As the child of Judaism - and the Egyptian Mystery System - Christianity was and is the perfect vehicle for the implementation of the control matrices belief-system co-optation. With that said, as I stated earlier, the truth seems to transcend all attempts to obscure it with falsehoods, requiring overt expression.

With all of the talk of multiple races of humanity, I'm reminded of the Urantia Book (http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read-urantia-book-online), and Kolbrin Bible (http://kolbrin.com/), both of which also contain tales of multiple creations and different types of people coexistent upon the planet. The sheer prevalence of such stories lends credence to their veracity.

[Marin]

Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.

This is the form that the coding DNA follows. The coding DNA provides the bricks and mortar, while portions of the non-coding DNA provide (i.e. project the form) the blueprints.

Another thing that may be passed on genetically is memory. It is dormant within our DNA. This is truly our connection to our ancestors, and also to any past traumas our species went through. This memory would also include archetypes and the like. It is accessed through form. To read it would be like reading a book, to view it would be like viewing a hologram (it might be intense, like nearly experiencing it). I have explored a physiological, physics base mechanism in which this could actually be possible here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=597469&viewfull=1#post597469) (the portion about the pineal gland).




"Down in the depths of every human being, there is an ancestral, visceral [* visceral- obtained through intuition rather than from reasoning or observation] knowledge about the predators' existence." - Don Juan

Just think about how much information can be encoded by binary systems (ones and zeros). Now, imagine how much information could be contained in a quaternary system (A,G,T,C). Just around 2% of the human genome accounts for the bricks and mortar of each and every complexity in the human body. So much is contained in that 2% alone, imagine the potential amount of information in the rest.

It's all very fascinating.

Great post Vivek. Some of the connections you've made in this thread (and others) are indeed fascinating. I'm just having one hell of a time trying to keep up. :)

As we've discussed earlier, I'm interested in this particular piece of the puzzle: the role of DNA and consciousness. I've "stolen" a few bits from a previous post of mine, Junk DNA or a primer for universal consciousness: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26127-Junk-DNA-or-a-primer-for-universal-consciousness&p=270191&viewfull=1#post270191

I'm thinking this material might be useful in terms of putting together some of the connections you've highlighted earlier. In particular, the connection between morphogenetics and DNA.

In a paper entitled "A Holographic Concept of Reality" first appearing in Psychoenergetic Systems in 1975, a team of researchers headlined by Richard Miller outlined a compelling model of "ener-genetic" expression resulting in "precipitated reality": "Superposed coherent waves of different types in the cells interact to form diffraction patterns, firstly in the acoustic [i.e., sound] domain, secondly in the electromagnetic [light] domain." This leads to the manifestation of physical form as a "quantum hologram—a translation between acoustical and optical holograms." Significantly, this sound-light translation that creates the experience of reality occurs in the genome.

It is becoming apparent that DNA directs cellular metabolism and replication not just biochemically but electromagnetically through mechanisms that translate sound into light waves, and vice versa. Sound and light, or phonons and photons, establish a sophisticated communication network throughout the physical organism that extends into the bioenergy fields and back to the cellular and subcellular levels.

Recalling Edgar Cayce's prediction that "sound would be the medicine of the future," Jonathan Goldman in Healing Sounds: The Power of Harmonics coined the following inspirational formula: sound + intention = healing. If we define intention as a form of conscious light energy roughly equivalent to thought, an idea consistent with many shamanic traditions such as that of the Toltecs of Mesoamerica, we can translate Goldman's formula as: SOUND + LIGHT = HEALING.

Russian scientists Peter Gariaev and Vladimir Poponin have also explored DNA’s extraordinary electromagnetic properties. Their research shows that DNA has a special ability to attract photons, causing the latter to spiral along the helix-shaped DNA molecule instead of along a linear path. In other words, DNA has the amazing ability to bend or weave light around itself.

In addition, it appears that a previously undetected form of intelligent light or intention energy (emanating from higher dimensions and distinguishable from electromagnetic radiation) which the Russian scientists dubbed "torsion radiation" after its twisting shape, gives rise to DNA. "A unified subliminal field of potentially universal consciousness apparently exists," writes Horowitz on the subject of the Russian studies, "and may be explained as emerging from a previously overlooked physical vacuum."

This breakthrough research establishes that torsion energy permeates the entire multidimensional galaxy and not only is responsive to but may indeed be consciousness. "To put it as bluntly as possible. You cannot separate consciousness and torsion waves—they are the same thing. When we use our minds to think, we are creating movements of electrical impulses in the brain, and when any electrical energy moves, torsion waves are also created."

According to the Russian findings, notes author Wynn Free, "this spiraling 'torsion' energy could actually be the substance of our human souls, and is therefore the precursor to the DNA molecule ... It already exists in the fabric of space and time before any physical life emerges." Elsewhere, Free remarks of transposons that these tiny segments of DNA can literally travel along the genome activating different parts of it when prompted by consciousness. In keeping with Gariaev's "Wave-based Genome Theory," Free concludes that DNA functions "somewhat like a computer chip, with different sections that can either be 'on' or 'off.'" Thus we can easily imagine how the torsion waves of human consciousness could actually program, or reprogram, DNA's binary code.

Similarly, the Gariaev group demonstrated that chromosomes function much like (re)programmable holographic biocomputers employing DNA's own electromagnetic radiation. Their research strongly suggests that human DNA is literally a genetic "text"; that chromosomes both produce and receive the information contained in these texts in order to encode and decode them, respectively; and that chromosomes assemble themselves into a holographic lattice designed to generate and interpret highly stable spiral standing waves of sound and light that direct all biological functions.

One revolutionary implication (of many) of this research is that, to activate and heal DNA, one can simply use our species' supreme expression of consciousness: words. While Western researchers clumsily cut and splice genes, Gariaev's team created sophisticated devices capable of influencing cellular metabolism through sound and light waves keyed to human language frequencies. Using this method, Gariaev proved that chromosomes damaged by X-rays, for instance, can be repaired. Moreover, this was accomplished noninvasively by simply applying vibration and language, or sound combined with intention, or words, to DNA.

According to Iona Miller and Richard Miller, authors of an article published in Nexus based partly on Gariaev's findings entitled "From Helix to Hologram," "Life is fundamentally electromagnetic rather than chemical, the DNA blueprint functioning as a biohologram which serves as a guiding matrix for organising physical form." The far-reaching implication is that DNA can be activated through conscious linguistic expression (much like an antenna) to modify the human bioenergy fields, which in turn (like orbiting communication satellites) can transmit radio and light waves to modify the physical structure and functioning of the human body."

[Jeffrey]

Excellent Rahkyt, thank you. There are a few things I'd like to address.


On the Echthroi and the deep biological Mitochondria connection I return once again to Madeline L'Engle and a synopsis of the second book in her series, A Wind in the Door:


Meg Murry is worried about her brother Charles Wallace, a 6-year-old genius who is bullied at school by the other children. The new principal of the elementary school is the former high school principal, Mr. Jenkins, who often disciplined Meg, and who Meg is sure has a grudge against her whole family. Meg tries to enlist Jenkins's help in protecting her brother, but is unsuccessful. On top of this, Meg discovers that Charles Wallace has a progressive disease which is leaving him short of breath. Their mother, a microbiologist, suspects it may have something to do with his mitochondria and the farandolae that live within them.

One afternoon, Charles Wallace tells Meg he saw a "drive of dragons" in the vegetable garden in their back yard. Meg goes out with him to investigate, but all they find is a pile of very odd feathers. Later, Meg has a frightening encounter with something that looks like Mr. Jenkins. Meg, Charles Wallace, and Calvin O'Keefe discover that Charles Wallace's drive of dragons is a single creature named Proginoskes. Progo, as he is quickly nicknamed, insists on being called "a cherubim" instead of a cherub because he is "practically plural," having a multitude of wings and eyes. The children also encounter a tall robed being named Blajeny, who informs them that he is a Teacher, and that they and Proginoskes have all been called to his class. They also encounter a snake that lives in their wall, Louise the Larger, who is also a Teacher.

Meg learns that the galaxy is threatened by beings called Echthroi, who seek to erase the entire universe by un-Naming things. She soon has to save Mr. Jenkins from this fate, by Naming him. Part of the task is to distinguish the real Mr. Jenkins from two Echthroi doubles, but it also means that she must look past her personal grudge, find the goodness in Mr. Jenkins, and let herself love him.

The characters then learn that Echthroi are destroying Charles Wallace's farandolae. They travel inside one of his mitochondria, which is named Yadah, and turn the tide by convincing a larval farandola to take root and accept its role as a mature fara, against the urgings of an Echthros. In the process, Meg is nearly "Xed,"(unnamed) and Mr. Jenkins is invaded by his Echthros doubles. Proginoskes sacrifices himself to "fill in" the emptiness of the Echthroi, Charles Wallace's life is saved, and everything returns to normal.

It is a short journey from reading tales like this as children to the Gnostic Mysteries. I expect that Mrs. L'Engle is quite well-versed in them. I like using novels, movies and television shows in order to illustrate how the Western collective unconscious seems to be geared toward the expression of certain kinds of stories as opposed to others. How - either through deliberate Elite machinations, unconscious collective resonance or some combination of both - Science Fiction and Fantasy are neither, really, IMO. In an infinite reality with infinite universes, higher and lower dimensions, parallel realities and timelines, all potential thought-creations may find expression somewhere, somewhen. They are "channelings", if you will, that express the possibilities of other pathways taken by a multiversal humanity, all in service to the same creative urges, with the same motivations and the same, basic relationship to creation and being-ness. While the exactness of the science expressed in these stories may not necessarily be correct, the impetus toward consciousness implicit within all of form and matter is an expression of a living truth. From the link you shared with us regarding the Biology of Kundalini (http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=Autolysis-SelfDigestion):


In fact we must look to mitochondria as being the chief orchestrators of the entire kundalini alchemy. Mitochondria play a central role in apoptosis by amplifying and mediating extrinsic apoptotic pathways, and in the integration and propagation of death signals originating from inside the cell such as DNA damage, oxidative stress, starvation. Apoptosis is most often induced through the disruption of the mitochondrial inner transmembrane potential and through a sudden increase in the permeability of the inner mitochondrial membrane. This causes an influx of water by osmosis into the mitochondria with the eventual rupture of the outer mitochondrial membrane, resulting in the release of pro-apoptotic proteins from the mitochondrial intermembrane space into the cytoplasm. Proteins released start a apoptosic cascade, ATP synthesis is stopped and free radical generation exceeds the cells antioxidant capacities leading to the oxidation of lipids, proteins, and nucleic acids.

The apoptosis signalling pathways in viable cells are kept in an inactive state and are only turned on in response to a death stimulus. It is thought that all cells of a multicellular animal might be intrinsically programmed to self-destruct and would die instantaneously unless cell death is continuously repressed by survival signals from growth factors, antioxidants, hormones, nutrients. These anti-apoptotic regulatory molecules keep in check the activation of pro-apoptotic factors. During a die-off however the pro-apoptotic factors become dominant and an exquisite cascade of cell death and self-digestion is set in motion.

The biological details that you've taken the time to research and incorporate within your musings is key to the realization that it goes much deeper than we are generally willing to believe. To know that DNA has memory, that the seemingly random tales and metaphoric writings were detailing very specific and highly relevant bodily geographies and assigning higher spiritual principles to their subtle workings is to realize that, as far as integrative understandings of the nature of reality are concerned, modern science has quite a long way to go. It also actualizes the knowledge, connects what could be abstract to very real biological potentialities.

Mitochondria plays a crucial role in ridding the body of ineffectual cells that lose their value with respect to the health of the organism.




Apoptosis is a naturally occurring process by which a cell is directed to Programmed Cell Death. Apoptosis is based on a genetic program that is an indispensable part of the development and function of an organism. In this process, cells that are no longer needed or that will be detrimental to an organism or tissue are disposed of in a neat and orderly manner; this prevents the development of an inflammatory response, which is often associated with Necrotic cell death. There are at least two broad pathways that lead to Apoptosis, an "Extrinsic" and an "Intrinsic" Pathway.

Source: http://www.sabiosciences.com/pathway.php?sn=Mitochondrial_Apoptosis

Mitochondria could also act a holobiont. They have a much smaller genome than us and can therefore undergo rapid adaptive procedures in response to environmental selection pressures (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hologenome_theory_of_evolution)).

If we consider that DNA acts as a transceiver then environmental selection pressures would extend to include any ELF that the planet produces and any changes in the subtle constructs of our morphogenetic selves.


As I'm sure you know, mitochondrial DNA is circular. This is symbolic of the mother, the feminine, the torus, the yoni. It is a complete circle -- connected. [It represents the creative power, the womb]

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/200795/350wm/F0024818-Circular_DNA_molecule,_artwork-SPL.jpg


Again, just sharing thoughts/concepts/ideas.

The extreme/outliers/interbreeding "elite" end of the spectrum procreates by selecting mates within certain lineages to preserve and promote certain characteristics. This also has a physically degenerative downside.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqJn4_3BsxY/RhEJR2IPxtI/AAAAAAAAAAc/lXSW_uIxihE/s320/Bell%2BCurve.JPG
[Side note: For conceptual ease, the below average portion of the population equates to those people that stray furthest from the morphogenetic, subtle architecture of natural humans. The above average portion represents those that closely reflect the true morphogenetic forms of natural humans. Most of the population exists within the bell curve, restoration to true form would be an imperative priority. The Gnostic scriptures detail this as part of rectifying the deficiency. These are merely possibilities.]

The remedy could be sought through blood drinking ritual. For one side it may have been a non-leathal, artful, mindfully understood ceremony of sorts (Druidry comes to mind) while for the other extreme it exists as a beastly indulgence, driven by a primal, ignorant lust for survival -- I'm sure there are in-betweens.

The below average portion of the population drink blood to replenish their dry wells. Their spiritual/morphological deficiency also has a corresponding physiological deficiency ... this may be mitochondrion.

From, www.naturalnews.com




The mitochondria are a very unique structure within the cell. They are the powerhouse of the cell and are the only intracellular organelle that has its own DNA and is able to divide and replicate on its own. The general consensus among researchers is that mitochondrial dysfunction plays a central role in nearly every degenerative disease.

[...]

The major factors involved in poor mitochondrial function include deficiencies in critical cellular nutrients, proprioceptive deficiencies, and environmental toxicity.

[...]

Environmental toxins are now more than ever a strong player in creating mitochondrial dysfunction. Major toxins that damage mitochondrial function include heavy metals such as mercury, pesticides/herbicides, air/water pollutants, food preservatives, commercial cleaning agents, and non-stick cookware among others.

Source: http://www.naturalnews.com/031997_mitochondria_support.html

These are just the physiological benefits and repercussions of healthy and unhealthy mitochondrial content. There is likely a subtle, spiritual aspect to this as well. The alchemical angle would be the middle ground between the physiological (biochemical) and the spiritual aspects.

This may have to do with mitochondria/mitochondrial DNA in particular. So, they (i.e. "elites") could be having serious problems with their mitochondria -- they have a very little amount and/or it's dysfunctional (not at full capacity).

Therefore, they resort to the blood drinking rituals we hear about (referenced in Houman's thread and elsewhere). They crave what they are deficient in.

Here's what's interesting. Modwiz created a new thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53854-Metaphysics-Where-Science-and-Spirituality-Meet&p=609605#post609605) recently (thank you sir) where he linked to one of Carmody's threads on the first page.

Carmody noted a link between lithium and interbreeding "elite" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17872-The-Question-of-Lithium--Alchemy-dimensions-shapeshifters-aliens-existence-reality..-&p=192251&viewfull=1#post192251) on the extreme end of the bell curve (being more or less a shell of a human) ...

Lithium enhances mitochondrial function.




Accumulating evidence suggests that mitochondrial dysfunction plays a critical role in the progression of a variety of neurodegenerative and psychiatric disorders. Thus, enhancing mitochondrial function could potentially help ameliorate the impairments of neural plasticity and cellular resilience associated with a variety of neuropsychiatric disorders. A series of studies was undertaken to investigate the effects of mood stabilizers on mitochondrial function, and against mitochondrially mediated neurotoxicity. We found that long-term treatment with lithium and valproate (VPA) enhanced cell respiration rate.

[...]

These findings illustrate that lithium and VPA enhance mitochondrial function and protect against mitochondrially mediated toxicity. These agents may have potential clinical utility in the treatment of other diseases associated with impaired mitochondrial function, such as neurodegenerative diseases and schizophrenia.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19149911

This may explain why they are so interested in lithium. It functions as an ailment to their "defunct" mitochondria.

I'm speculating of course, but it's chemical benefits may have a corresponding alchemy that eases the morphogenetic, spiritual repercussions of their mitochondrial malady.

I wasn't sure whether to post that here or in Carmody's thread.


The difficulty in accepting your last conclusion regarding original sin should be apparent.

I am inferring that original sin is a morphogenetic "defect" -- of form.

If this is the case (I'm not saying it is, just entertaining an idea) then it's evidence would be the lack of luminous humans being born with unknotted chakras and fully activated spiritual circuitry -- reflecting their natural morphogentic selves (or something along those lines).

Rather they are born in a fallen state -- lackluster.

They can't "get into heaven" -- their kundalini is cut off, blocked from entering the Garden of Eden (metaphorically speaking). The Bible says we must be "free from sin" in order to "enter heaven" -- I'm reading that as meaning free from any unnatural, morphogenetic sinus present in our morphogenetic make up. A sinus meaning an irregular venous cavity.

Yogis work on purifying the nadis so the prana can flow naturally and awaken the kundalini. During it's ascent it untangles any knotted chakras and allows them to fully bloom.

The subtle body is now cleared from any unnatural, malformed sinus and the kundalini proceeds to enter the Garden (i.e. reaches heaven, attains nirvana).

[Chester]

This post was copied and pasted from the "Luciferian Agenda" thread.

It relates to malignant/archontic energy (paralleling the predators described by Don Juan Matus) and the two spiritually distinct races of humans described in previous posts.

[INDENT][INDENT]From[I] Evening Talks With Sri Aurobindo

Disciple: Men are beings on the physical plane, but they have vital and mental and psychic parts. Do the beings of the vital plane possess also mental and psychic parts?

Sri Aurobindo: The vital and physical planes are different. On the physical plane there is evolution through different grades of beings: ours is a plane of evolution. On the vital plane there is no evolution. It is a plane of typal beings; there the consciousness does not evolve from one plane to another.


If Aurobindo was right, then the "ascended master" theology appears to be in part, a creation of archontic energies.

I do not know if Aurobindo was/is right.

I do know that I, personally, certainly cannot reconcile my concept of a "loving god" that creates a structure for his children such that the children go through thousands of lifetimes of what sometimes is nothing but a lifetime filled with absolute terror and horror all and only so that their soul can "evolve"... I cannot reconcile that with any "god" I would have anything to do with, that would be acceptable to me.

But I do believe I could be fooled by being chosen to be a special one which becomes "contacted" by one or more non-physical "energetic" beings that sets me up to buy into some sort of "specialness" about myself and that I fit into this "structure" that is "taught to me by an ascended master" in a high location on what is clearly a pyramidal hierarchical structure.

Clearly I would experience all sorts of "love/light" and thus I would become a much more loving being. I do not consider that all the interestingly wonderful experiences that follow are what happens in the life of a loving being based on actual metaphysics of love... no, I instead am secretly enamored (and probably do not recognize this myself) about my own "specialness" as one who is so greatly evolved in my soul that I would "choose" to come as a volunteer to earth to assist these poor souls in their soul evolution process. I never realize I am simply a tool in the arsenal of nefarious forces.

So i smell a rat when it comes to "ascended master" theology (programming). If there be a "god" - the "god" of that type of structure would never, ever be acceptable to me... and maybe I will be proven wrong and maybe my next experience once this physical body stops functioning will be a massive soul lesson that I was wrong but I can guarantee you that whatever is me will never, ever buy into that paradigm.

But I am simple minded in this way.

And we are all allowed to decide for ourselves what is true or not when it comes to anything and everything outside of the actual observable material world ( and even in the waking state, material world reality we can interpret the same experiences / events / objects differently).

One of the biggest things that concerns me is when others imply via an authoritative voice with nothing but their own experience to go on which cannot be validated that their type of paradigm they have concluded is "the right and only accurate and actual" paradigm while "your experiences" with perhaps what appears to sometimes be experiences that spill over into the physical realms, whether something we might call a demon and/or something we have been hearing about through researchers who have acquired testimony of first hand encounters, for example - reptilian appearing beings that then want to have some sort of strange sex with their human target and where the targets end up with physical marks that they use to support that their experience actually happened (what some have argued away via the reference to "stigmata") - that their paradigm is the true one while another person's experiences that then generate what for them is a paradigm of sorts is delusions of that person's mind.

How can an intelligent person that believes they are loving and honest not question a bit their own conclusions?

I clearly must be an exception that I survived myself and finally began to question.

And if we take a third party observer... someone who has known me my entire life and that observer was there with me on April 26th, 2012 when I discovered Houman's Horus-Ra thread and I announced "Depression over" to the loved ones I was living with and I have shot straight up along the lines of emotional / mental health all and only through the help of this forum and a strict regimen of self honesty... something suggests the rat I smell may very well be more than simple delusions... but again, I am simple minded this way and I guess this is just my odds making talent leaking through into my analysis of what might be ailing humanity.

[Chester]

That was me recklessly regurgitating partially digested information. I've learned not to speak in definitives because I really have no idea what's real.

Hence the playing around with ideas and not believing what I think.

I've gone back and read posts I've written a year ago and some of them make me cringe. The meeting of the minds here has helped me through a lot. I've had to pull my foot out of my mouth many times here and I continuously check to make sure my heads not in my arse. There was a post I made some time ago (within the year) where I vowed not to post recklessly and without deliberation. I'm trying my best to do that (albeit I've moved away from casting my opinions around and moved towards posting from a contemplative, creative standpoint). Anyways, I'm rambling.

And thanks!


Me too, bro - samo samo... thanks for being my friend all through those darker days - as for me, the facts are what they are and that means I am still quite capable of posting some absolutely idiotic stuff and that I am still quite heavily archontically compromised - I was diagnosed by several "doctors" as a classic bi-polar... makes me think sometimes am I an almost 50/50 hydrid? And I say that because I understand psychopathy because I am partly a psychopath... maybe not full blown but definitely partly. Just like an alcoholic/drug addict that has been able to achieve physical sobriety and wakes up every day with one main goal - "Today I will not take a drink or drug" I wake up every day and say, "I will not allow that viciousness within me to overtake me."

A third party observer would say, "Jeeee, Chester... nice words but why are you not letting go of Ray? You are nothing but a biting dog that won't let go." I will tell you why - my 18 year old son is in jail today in part because of the overall conditions that are at certain peaks within the United States and these paradigms (such as ascended master theology) play a roll in how these conditions came forth so I point out each and every aspect of what I call "the archontic deception" and no, I will never, ever back down on it and I do this for all parents who have children (no matter who they are nor how caught up they are in their own life within this overall archontic structure) as I am betting on the fact that deep down inside each and every parent secretly wishes their child would not have to enter into the archontic program. I am speaking about those who are consciously aware of the archontic structure and believe they are aware of the archontic goals and have played a willing (or at least semi willing) role on the side of the archons. Just like I have for 48 years I am aware of and sadly sometimes may still be.

Yes, there may be a few who do not have children and have never found empathy for other children. Yes, there may be a few who have children and cannot connect with any part within themselves that secretly wishes their children did not have to carry on the tradition.

But those two groups I just pointed out are very, very small. By starting at the outer edges of the circle - a circle which has light shadows on the outside but in the center becomes the blackest of blacks, this can, step by step, be overcome.

I am certain there is love. I am equally certain love wins all bets. That's why I bet on love. We shall see.

[Jeffrey]

Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.

This is the form that the coding DNA follows. The coding DNA provides the bricks and mortar, while portions of the non-coding DNA provide (i.e. project the form) the blueprints.

Another thing that may be passed on genetically is memory. It is dormant within our DNA. This is truly our connection to our ancestors, and also to any past traumas our species went through. This memory would also include archetypes and the like. It is accessed through form. To read it would be like reading a book, to view it would be like viewing a hologram (it might be intense, like nearly experiencing it). I have explored a physiological, physics base mechanism in which this could actually be possible here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=597469&viewfull=1#post597469) (the portion about the pineal gland).




"Down in the depths of every human being, there is an ancestral, visceral [* visceral- obtained through intuition rather than from reasoning or observation] knowledge about the predators' existence." - Don Juan

Just think about how much information can be encoded by binary systems (ones and zeros). Now, imagine how much information could be contained in a quaternary system (A,G,T,C). Just around 2% of the human genome accounts for the bricks and mortar of each and every complexity in the human body. So much is contained in that 2% alone, imagine the potential amount of information in the rest.

It's all very fascinating.

Great post Vivek. Some of the connections you've made in this thread (and others) are indeed fascinating. I'm just having one hell of a time trying to keep up. :)

As we've discussed earlier, I'm interested in this particular piece of the puzzle: the role of DNA and consciousness. I've "stolen" a few bits from a previous post of mine, Junk DNA or a primer for universal consciousness: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26127-Junk-DNA-or-a-primer-for-universal-consciousness&p=270191&viewfull=1#post270191

I'm thinking this material might be useful in terms of putting together some of the connections you've highlighted earlier. In particular, the connection between morphogenetics and DNA.

In a paper entitled "A Holographic Concept of Reality" first appearing in Psychoenergetic Systems in 1975, a team of researchers headlined by Richard Miller outlined a compelling model of "ener-genetic" expression resulting in "precipitated reality": "Superposed coherent waves of different types in the cells interact to form diffraction patterns, firstly in the acoustic domain, secondly in the electromagnetic [light] domain." This leads to the manifestation of physical form as a "quantum hologram—a translation between acoustical and optical holograms." Significantly, this sound-light translation that creates the experience of reality occurs in the genome.

It is becoming apparent that DNA directs cellular metabolism and replication not just biochemically but electromagnetically through mechanisms that translate sound into light waves, and vice versa. Sound and light, or phonons and photons, establish a sophisticated communication network throughout the physical organism that extends into the bioenergy fields and back to the cellular and subcellular levels.

Recalling Edgar Cayce's prediction that "sound would be the medicine of the future," Jonathan Goldman in Healing Sounds: The Power of Harmonics coined the following inspirational formula: sound + intention = healing. If we define intention as a form of conscious light energy roughly equivalent to thought, an idea consistent with many shamanic traditions such as that of the Toltecs of Mesoamerica, we can translate Goldman's formula as: SOUND + LIGHT = HEALING.

Russian scientists Peter Gariaev and Vladimir Poponin have also explored DNA’s extraordinary electromagnetic properties. Their research shows that DNA has a special ability to attract photons, causing the latter to spiral along the helix-shaped DNA molecule instead of along a linear path. In other words, DNA has the amazing ability to bend or weave light around itself.

In addition, it appears that a previously undetected form of intelligent light or intention energy (emanating from higher dimensions and distinguishable from electromagnetic radiation) which the Russian scientists dubbed "torsion radiation" after its twisting shape, gives rise to DNA. "A unified subliminal field of potentially universal consciousness apparently exists," writes Horowitz on the subject of the Russian studies, "and may be explained as emerging from a previously overlooked physical vacuum."

This breakthrough research establishes that torsion energy permeates the entire multidimensional galaxy and not only is responsive to but may indeed be consciousness. "To put it as bluntly as possible. You cannot separate consciousness and torsion waves—they are the same thing. When we use our minds to think, we are creating movements of electrical impulses in the brain, and when any electrical energy moves, torsion waves are also created."

According to the Russian findings, notes author Wynn Free, "this spiraling 'torsion' energy could actually be the substance of our human souls, and is therefore the precursor to the DNA molecule ... It already exists in the fabric of space and time before any physical life emerges." Elsewhere, Free remarks of transposons that these tiny segments of DNA can literally travel along the genome activating different parts of it when prompted by consciousness. In keeping with Gariaev's "Wave-based Genome Theory," Free concludes that DNA functions "somewhat like a computer chip, with different sections that can either be 'on' or 'off.'" Thus we can easily imagine how the torsion waves of human consciousness could actually program, or reprogram, DNA's binary code.

Similarly, the Gariaev group demonstrated that chromosomes function much like (re)programmable holographic biocomputers employing DNA's own electromagnetic radiation. Their research strongly suggests that human DNA is literally a genetic "text"; that chromosomes both produce and receive the information contained in these texts in order to encode and decode them, respectively; and that chromosomes assemble themselves into a holographic lattice designed to generate and interpret highly stable spiral standing waves of sound and light that direct all biological functions.

One revolutionary implication (of many) of this research is that, to activate and heal DNA, one can simply use our species' supreme expression of consciousness: words. While Western researchers clumsily cut and splice genes, Gariaev's team created sophisticated devices capable of influencing cellular metabolism through sound and light waves keyed to human language frequencies. Using this method, Gariaev proved that chromosomes damaged by X-rays, for instance, can be repaired. Moreover, this was accomplished noninvasively by simply applying vibration and language, or sound combined with intention, or words, to DNA.

According to Iona Miller and Richard Miller, authors of an article published in Nexus based partly on Gariaev's findings entitled "From Helix to Hologram," "Life is fundamentally electromagnetic rather than chemical, the DNA blueprint functioning as a biohologram which serves as a guiding matrix for organising physical form." The far-reaching implication is that DNA can be activated through conscious linguistic expression (much like an antenna) to modify the human bioenergy fields, which in turn (like orbiting communication satellites) can transmit radio and light waves to modify the physical structure and functioning of the human body."

Marin, this is an incredible post -- thank you. The correlations almost seem surreal.

I will add the work of Luc Montagnier to this as it relates to the thread.

What is Life? A Non-Particle View

FvSOR0hvHrk
[I][There is overlapping dialogue around 9:30 to 11:00 minutes but it goes away.]

Please, watch the video and read the information in Marin's post.

This is getting good.

In the proto-planetary womb of Gaia there would be a cocktail of commodities.

Here are a few excerpts from an article linked to in The Mechanics of the Matrix thread.




Most water on Earth was not produced here - it came from space. This is old news for astronomers, but until now water-producing factories had not been observed at work in space. Nor was it possible to trace water at the different stages of its long journey through space. Very little information about cosmic water can be obtained from the ground - primarily because the Earth's atmosphere is itself rich in water vapour and blocks our view of the water in the Universe beyond. ISO helped astronomers to reconstruct for the first time the cosmic cycle of water.

[...]

Atoms and molecules in space are identified by comparing their spectra - a signal that is unique to each compound and hence can be used as a 'signature' - with that of known compounds obtained in the laboratory. But sometimes no match is found, and then astronomers cannot identify what molecule they have detected. That is the case with one of the most ubiquitous molecules detected so far, a group of compounds that have left their chemical fingerprint in many places in the Universe. They are known to be complex carbonaceous molecules, made of more than a hundred carbon atoms; their abundance shows that a very rich and active organic chemistry is taking place around the stars and in the space between them.

ISO confirmed the presence of these compounds in many different environments, and gave some clues about their nature. Some ISO data, for instance the very recent identification of benzene in space (See also ISO detects benzene in space) suggest that these molecules have an 'aromatic' structure, that is, they are ring-shaped molecules. That is in fact the most accepted view among astronomers, most of which already call these carbonaceous compounds 'Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons', or 'PAHs'.

The ring-shaped structure is relevant, since life as we know it is based - among other things - on the ability of the carbon atom to form ringed molecules.

[...]

Dust is the most abundant raw material in the Universe. Planets, comets... they are all made from reprocessed dust: particles often much smaller than one thousandth of a millimetre and of varied chemical composition. As in the case of water, there is a 'dust-cycle' taking place in the Universe. Stars expel dust when they are old, the dust forms dense clouds in interstellar space, and new stars - and often planetary systems - are formed from the dust in that cloud. When the new stars become old and expel dust themselves the cycle closes (although the dust will be more processed and therefore with a slightly different chemistry). Thanks to ISO, astronomers can now 'trace' some of this dust through different stages of its cycle.

ISO discovered in 1998 that crystallised silicates - such as the green crystal olivine - are a main component of dust. (See also The crystalline revolution: ISO's finding opens a new research field, 'astro-mineralogy' .) This triggered a `crystalline revolution' in the astronomical world, because it meant that silicates, which are a large family of compounds, could be specifically identified. Silicates are the most abundant minerals on Earth and were also known to be very common in space, but it had been assumed that cosmic dust silicates had, in general, an amorphous structure. The fact that their structure is crystalline and not amorphous allows astronomers to identify each crystal, track its presence in different regions and follow its journey through space.

So far crystalline silicates have been found in the circumstellar discs around evolved stars where they are synthesised; in comets, such as comet Hale-Bopp and in protoplanetary discs, where they act as building blocks for new planets. Experts in space chemistry still do not understand how crystalline silicates are formed, but they can already celebrate the birth of a new field of research - 'astro-mineralogy'.

Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=546766&viewfull=1#post546766

The magnetic field of the earth is layered. Starting from the ground is the troposphere. Then there is the stratosphere, mesosphere, thermosphere, ionosphere, protonosphere, plasmasphere, and the magnetosphere (source (http://www.eolss.net/Sample-Chapters/C01/E6-16-05.pdf)). Whew!

Let's rewind time to right after the planet began to take shape.

Within this toroidal womb there are the aforementioned ingredients.

The ones of principle interest are:



1. Crystalline-like dust particles

2. A concoction of organic molecules (and probably some inorganic ones)

3. Water

Within the toroidal field, or womb, surrounding Gaia (after the formation of a crystalline core) there is a resonant frequency. This is before the planet has "fully developed" ...

Keep in mind the ingredients and the resonant frequency (the Shumann Resonance as mentioned in the video).

There was (and still is) plasma within earth's magnetic field.

Here are some excerpts of interest from science.howstuffworks.com




When plasma comes into contact with a dust cloud, dust particles gather an electric charge by sucking up electrons from the surrounding plasma. This core of electrons in turn pulls in positively charged ions, forming plasma crystals. In the scientists' simulations, which were performed on the International Space Station and in a zero-gravity environment at a German research facility, the plasma crystals sometimes developed into corkscrew shapes or even the double-helix shape of DNA. These helix-shaped crystals retain an electric charge and show what the researchers called a self-organizing ability.

Once in helix form, the crystals can reproduce by diving into two identical helixes, displaying "memory marks" on their structures [source: New Journal of Physics]. The diameter of the helixes varies throughout the structure and the arrangement of these various sections is replicated in other crystals, passing on what could be called a form of genetic code.

They even seem to evolve. The formations become sturdier over time as weaker structures break down and disappear.

Source: http://science.howstuffworks.com/weird-life.htm

Here is an explanation for the prototype of our own DNA.

Again, please watch the video.

Couple all of this with the theories of Rupert Sheldrake.

Life begins to grow from it's most subtle aspects and evolves toward increasing complexity. The most subtle form of pure consciousness is this pervasive, placid field.

The next step would be how this energy interacts with the very geometry of space -- torsional, gyred.

This coagulates the energy into a denser form, albeit it is still very subtle. This could correspond to the mental plane.

The next step is matter, on the atomic level. These fine, helical like structures are delicate enough to receive this slightly coagulated energy. They react to it by transmuting it to project a form. The form being a subtle construct that coagulates this energy into an even denser state.

This could correspond to the vital plane.

Now there are layers developing.

It is at this primal stage of development that exotic, "DNA-based" life could have began to evolve.


This core is crystalline (as described above). The matter of the core only takes up a small space compared to the cavity that it's field creates. Consider morphogenetic fields and helical, crystalline-like structures. Without producing material organisms these morphogenetic fields could have still been evolving without a full grown planet.

Imagine the crystalline core surrounded by a gigantic haze of dust. This is all enveloped in the magnetic field (i.e. the torus, the womb). The core is producing a resonant frequency and these helical, crystalline structures in the womb are receiving it, modulating it based on their individual structures, and projecting morphogenetic fields. This is an enclosed system. Within this system there are changes and interactions between developing sub-systems. An adaptive process is taking place before the planet even grows to maturity (i.e. grows in size, gains weight by gravitational processes -- pregnant women do gain weight, just an observation).




Complex adaptive systems are special cases of complex systems, often defined as a 'complex macroscopic collection' of relatively 'similar and partially connected micro-structures' – formed in order to adapt to the changing environment, and increase its survivability as a macro-structure.

They are complex; in that they are dynamic networks of interactions, and their relationships are not aggregations of the individual static entities. They are adaptive; in that the individual and collective behavior mutate and self-organize corresponding to the change-provoking micro-event or collection of events.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_adaptive_system


Eventually, an order is reached. A harmony if you will. A stable holoarchy has emerged within this field and learned to dance in harmony with the music of the sphere.

The morphogenetic constructs that persevered would be the templates for organic life (when the planet settles in to it's current size, and cools enough to allow the genesis of organic life).

These vital beings could have existed as luminous, morphological constructs (imperceptible to our physical eyes). Imagine. They could have had a whole system, a civilization in a sense we aren't familiar with. It reminds me of Atlantis when the earth was still undergoing major changes.

More complex helical structures began taking shape as the planet cooled and more complex organic molecules began to interact. Another layer was added, the energy densified again, and these vital constructs eventually evolved to encompass physical bodies.

This all reminds me of the concentric shells of existence that is described in esoteric literature.

It seems that DNA has a strong connection with the resonance of the planet. The question to ask is - has the frequency the planet produces always been the same?

If not, I wonder if it would change again and what that would mean for us.

There was also this comment from a previous post:




Now, reincarnation.

Past lives would also be encoded into our DNA if indeed portions of our non-coding DNA detail an ancestral history. So, maybe my morphological construct is extremely similar to one that lived a few centuries back. That would mean my DNA is similar in many respects. Maybe I physically look similar to how he looked. Maybe I think similarly to how he thought. His memories may exist as information imprinted within the vast storehouse of data in my own particular DNA.

Past life regression therapy may tap into this aspect of our DNA and we are able to access past memories subconsciously because they are encoded by the same portions of our DNA that dictate our morphogenetic constructs. So, it's not that the same soul reincarnates, but it is closely re-formed from however the information was left in the DNA and according to the formulation of the subtle causeways in our morphological construct/subtle body (there are many more factors to acknowledge).

This would mean that reincarnation is a phenomena that is largely passed along genetically. This idea runs into problems because if someone doesn't bear any offspring then their memories/experiences/constructs aren't passed along. This is just an idea though, it doesn't have to be a definitive answer. There may be another mechanism at play that would patch that problem, but that'll have to be for another post.

I think that patch I was looking for is in the information in Marin's post and the video above.

Lastly, I'll add this from a PM exchange.




I've thought about reincarnation being based largely on morphogenetic, "non-coding" aspects of DNA. Then there's the whole idea of "soul groups" that "incarnate" during the same time periods. So, it could be that the morphogenetic, "non-coding" aspect of DNA is cyclical. It contains our entire ancestral history and spiritual heritage and somehow there is some synchronous aspect where certain morphogenetic blueprints get expressed at the same time. Like it's cycling through and spiraling upwards -- evolution.

The earth contains all of the factors that were necessary for the genetic information to imprint itself in water as it did in Luc Montagnier's experiments (maybe it does this in the mesosphere or plasmasphere, it reminds me of the Akashic Records).

Think about it. It's all very fascinating.

[AwakeInADream]

I'm posting mainly to bookmark this great thread but I will ask a question.

Vivek, is there in your opinion any method by which we may restore ourselves to our naturally divine status?

(Particularly when it comes to unknotting the Chakra's)

I could also do with a very simplistic summary of the whole Horus-Ra Archonic problem,
which I am finding it hard to get my head around.

[Flash]

Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.

This is the form that the coding DNA follows. The coding DNA provides the bricks and mortar, while portions of the non-coding DNA provide (i.e. project the form) the blueprints.

Another thing that may be passed on genetically is memory. It is dormant within our DNA. This is truly our connection to our ancestors, and also to any past traumas our species went through. This memory would also include archetypes and the like. It is accessed through form. To read it would be like reading a book, to view it would be like viewing a hologram (it might be intense, like nearly experiencing it). I have explored a physiological, physics base mechanism in which this could actually be possible here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=597469&viewfull=1#post597469) (the portion about the pineal gland).




"Down in the depths of every human being, there is an ancestral, visceral [* visceral- obtained through intuition rather than from reasoning or observation] knowledge about the predators' existence." - Don Juan

Just think about how much information can be encoded by binary systems (ones and zeros). Now, imagine how much information could be contained in a quaternary system (A,G,T,C). Just around 2% of the human genome accounts for the bricks and mortar of each and every complexity in the human body. So much is contained in that 2% alone, imagine the potential amount of information in the rest.

It's all very fascinating.

Great post Vivek. Some of the connections you've made in this thread (and others) are indeed fascinating. I'm just having one hell of a time trying to keep up. :)

As we've discussed earlier, I'm interested in this particular piece of the puzzle: the role of DNA and consciousness. I've "stolen" a few bits from a previous post of mine, Junk DNA or a primer for universal consciousness: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26127-Junk-DNA-or-a-primer-for-universal-consciousness&p=270191&viewfull=1#post270191

I'm thinking this material might be useful in terms of putting together some of the connections you've highlighted earlier. In particular, the connection between morphogenetics and DNA.

In a paper entitled "A Holographic Concept of Reality" first appearing in Psychoenergetic Systems in 1975, a team of researchers headlined by Richard Miller outlined a compelling model of "ener-genetic" expression resulting in "precipitated reality": "Superposed coherent waves of different types in the cells interact to form diffraction patterns, firstly in the acoustic [i.e., sound] domain, secondly in the electromagnetic [light] domain." This leads to the manifestation of physical form as a "quantum hologram—a translation between acoustical and optical holograms." Significantly, this sound-light translation that creates the experience of reality occurs in the genome.

It is becoming apparent that DNA directs cellular metabolism and replication not just biochemically but electromagnetically through mechanisms that translate sound into light waves, and vice versa. Sound and light, or phonons and photons, establish a sophisticated communication network throughout the physical organism that extends into the bioenergy fields and back to the cellular and subcellular levels.

Recalling Edgar Cayce's prediction that "sound would be the medicine of the future," Jonathan Goldman in Healing Sounds: The Power of Harmonics coined the following inspirational formula: sound + intention = healing. If we define intention as a form of conscious light energy roughly equivalent to thought, an idea consistent with many shamanic traditions such as that of the Toltecs of Mesoamerica, we can translate Goldman's formula as: SOUND + LIGHT = HEALING.

Russian scientists Peter Gariaev and Vladimir Poponin have also explored DNA’s extraordinary electromagnetic properties. Their research shows that DNA has a special ability to attract photons, causing the latter to spiral along the helix-shaped DNA molecule instead of along a linear path. In other words, DNA has the amazing ability to bend or weave light around itself.

In addition, it appears that a previously undetected form of intelligent light or intention energy (emanating from higher dimensions and distinguishable from electromagnetic radiation) which the Russian scientists dubbed "torsion radiation" after its twisting shape, gives rise to DNA. "A unified subliminal field of potentially universal consciousness apparently exists," writes Horowitz on the subject of the Russian studies, "and may be explained as emerging from a previously overlooked physical vacuum."

This breakthrough research establishes that torsion energy permeates the entire multidimensional galaxy and not only is responsive to but may indeed be consciousness. "To put it as bluntly as possible. You cannot separate consciousness and torsion waves—they are the same thing. When we use our minds to think, we are creating movements of electrical impulses in the brain, and when any electrical energy moves, torsion waves are also created."

According to the Russian findings, notes author Wynn Free, "this spiraling 'torsion' energy could actually be the substance of our human souls, and is therefore the precursor to the DNA molecule ... It already exists in the fabric of space and time before any physical life emerges." Elsewhere, Free remarks of transposons that these tiny segments of DNA can literally travel along the genome activating different parts of it when prompted by consciousness. In keeping with Gariaev's "Wave-based Genome Theory," Free concludes that DNA functions "somewhat like a computer chip, with different sections that can either be 'on' or 'off.'" Thus we can easily imagine how the torsion waves of human consciousness could actually program, or reprogram, DNA's binary code.

Similarly, the Gariaev group demonstrated that chromosomes function much like (re)programmable holographic biocomputers employing DNA's own electromagnetic radiation. Their research strongly suggests that human DNA is literally a genetic "text"; that chromosomes both produce and receive the information contained in these texts in order to encode and decode them, respectively; and that chromosomes assemble themselves into a holographic lattice designed to generate and interpret highly stable spiral standing waves of sound and light that direct all biological functions.

One revolutionary implication (of many) of this research is that, to activate and heal DNA, one can simply use our species' supreme expression of consciousness: words. While Western researchers clumsily cut and splice genes, Gariaev's team created sophisticated devices capable of influencing cellular metabolism through sound and light waves keyed to human language frequencies. Using this method, Gariaev proved that chromosomes damaged by X-rays, for instance, can be repaired. Moreover, this was accomplished noninvasively by simply applying vibration and language, or sound combined with intention, or words, to DNA.

According to Iona Miller and Richard Miller, authors of an article published in Nexus based partly on Gariaev's findings entitled "From Helix to Hologram," "Life is fundamentally electromagnetic rather than chemical, the DNA blueprint functioning as a biohologram which serves as a guiding matrix for organising physical form." The far-reaching implication is that DNA can be activated through conscious linguistic expression (much like an antenna) to modify the human bioenergy fields, which in turn (like orbiting communication satellites) can transmit radio and light waves to modify the physical structure and functioning of the human body."

This is sooooo interesting. Thank you Marin, and Vivek.

I must tell a weird story that happened to me years ago and that correspond to what is written here. It is not scientific at all, just a very personal experience. I had doubts about what was happening but was not sure. Now reading these post, it is almost a 100% correspondance.

About 10 months to 1 years before getting pregnant, I had a clear vision of a blue print of a baby, there, hanging in space in front of my eyes, not a formed baby but a blueprint, like energy waves outlining the outer and inner organs without skins or color. The holographic lattice, the guiding matrice, in the intention before being activated in chromosomes.

Also, for a very specific reason that would take too much writing to tell, I could determine counting backward the exact day my ovum was fertilised (7 days after) and therefore I knew the probabilities for a daughter were something like 99%.

And I remembered something that happened on that day. When I got pregnant, meaning that fertilisation occured, on that day, I had a very strange vision, around 4 AM, I saw from the sky (yes my roof was off or kind of) a vortex opening. In fact I always called it a vortex until today.

It was a spiraling torsion kind of, and from it a beam of light, intense and condensed (not dispersing light as usual) hit my house, and the corner of my room (and for those ET fanatics, no it does not feel like ET anything). It was very vivid. I had the feeling that my child had incarnated in that day, the day of conception. So crazy that I never talk about it. But it fits completely with what the Russians thought.


this spiraling 'torsion' energy could actually be the substance of our human souls, and is therefore the precursor to the DNA molecule ... It already exists in the fabric of space and time before any physical life emerges."

[Jeffrey]

I'm posting mainly to bookmark this great thread but I will ask a question.

Vivek, is there in your opinion any method by which we may restore ourselves to our naturally divine status?

(Particularly when it comes to unknotting the Chakra's)

I could also do with a very simplistic summary of the whole Horus-Ra Archonic problem,
which I am finding it hard to get my head around.

I'm sure there is ...

Unfortunately, I'm probably not the best person to ask for advice about it. :o

As far as a simplistic summary. A straightforward, concise summary would be nice -- assuming someone could trim off all the deceit. This is something I am working towards.

[mosquito]

(Picking jaw up off floor) - What an incredible thread ! I'm in awe at anyone who can write so prolifically as you do Vivek. Linking in so nicely with Modwiz's thread.

Just an opinion - now that 2012 has been consigned to the history books (well, in the solar calendar at least), wouldn't it be nice if we could focus our attention on topics like this and start to make some real collaborative progress in our spiritual evolution ?

[Flash]

Check this guy, a theory on the soul, scientific research, thanks to Apokalypse thread.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53933-Scientists-offer-quantum-theory-of-soul-s-existence

[eaglespirit]

A couple of things...

There is a 'childlike' wonder and curiosity going on here that is powerful, without anyone touting and I find that incredible...and a key to our 'getting it' and expanding this sharing and knowledge quickly, imho.

And again...I have well over 1300 hours in 5 years of taking the sunlght in through my eyes during meditation and I feel there is a connection with sungazing and this...now there is much more to this process, I'm sure...but much of what is being shared here I have experienced in some way. The few weeks in January of 2007 when I was vibrating sky high from a shock/start of direct solar connection I would take 1 hour cat naps(wasn't sleeping much) each day with intense movie-like choreographic 'lessons/teachings' of some kind being played in an intense dream-like arena, consistently day to day. I actually saw similar pictures of things being brought out here.

Thank You All

[Marin]

Marin, this is an incredible post -- thank you. The correlations almost seem surreal.

I will add the work of Luc Montagnier to this as it relates to the thread.

What is Life? A Non-Particle View

FvSOR0hvHrk
[There is overlapping dialogue around 9:30 to 11:00 minutes but it goes away.]

Please, watch the video and read the information in Marin's post.

This is getting good.

In the proto-planetary womb of Gaia there would be a cocktail of commodities.

For those that may not be familiar with Montagnier's work - here's a brief summary. I thought this might be helpful as it relates to some of the material already presented.

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2011/Winter-2010/Montagnier.pdf

"Luc Montagnier has brought together new evidence for a non-particle view of life. The emission of low-frequency electromagnetic waves from bacterial DNA sequences, and the ability of these waves to organize nucleotides (the raw material of DNA) into new bacterial DNA, by mediation of structures within water."

And....
http://www.pharmaworldmagazine.com/articolo/15894/just-waves-to-duplicate-dna

"Experiments carried out by French Nobelist Luc Montagnier may represent the beginning of a new scientific revolution: it would be possible, according to Montaigner’s results, to duplicate viral and bacterial DNA in the absence of the physical template of the DNA itself. Coding information would be transmitted by electromagnetic waves generating from water molecules."

"....The next step in the experiment consisted in recording the em emissions coming from water on a physical support, such as a CD or a pendrive. This “em genetic code” file has then been used to irradiated a second vial containing sterile water. Montagnier’s group showed that if, after a proper time of incubation, primers and nucleotides are added to this second vial and PCR reaction is performed it is possible to isolate a DNA almost identical to the original one from which the “water template” was obtained. «Our hypothesis is that the DNA replicates on the basis of the em signals it has transmitted to water. It would thus possible to synthetise different types of DNA according to the specific em impulse transmitted». According to the new theory, nucleotides in water solution would be “ordered” by the em memory encoded by water in such a way to replicate the original DNA sequence.

According to the quantistic fields theory, many properties of the matter would result from the sum of microscopic vortex, in a process called coherence. It is something similar to what happens in a biological tissue, such as epidermis, where cells are functionally linked and coordinated. «If, for some issue, tissue cells loose their coherence and coordination and acquire again all their degrees of freedom a tumor starts to grow.»

In the case of DNA replication, the transmission of em signals by water would occur in the form of a vortex of coherence; its quite long timelife allows for the creation of an high energy coherent excitation, which is the responsible for the activation of water electrons in the receiving vial."

The work has revolutionary implications for biology and our whole understanding of the universe.

David Wilcock, in his recent book, The Source Field Investigations, highlighted Montagnier's recent work: "DNA may well be created by a quantum template that we can't even see or measure directly, but exists as a structure in the Source Field. Could this energetic structure gather photons, atoms, and molecules together - to spiral life as we know it into existence? The answers may very well be staring us in the face, as Montagnier just discovered - but most scientists don't want to go there."

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With regard to the video Vivek posted (What is life? A Non Partical View), here are a few of my favorite bits:


"The evidence is always on the biochemical.
The question is: what else is it doing? Is it just a chemical signaler?
Now we know: DNA is putting out light, receiving light, putting out low freq radio waves and receiving it."


"We've tried to reduce biology and even cognition to the laws of physics and chemistry.
It has to be done the other way around.
The higher domain defines the lower domain.
The laws of physics and chemistry are incomplete."


"Gurwitsch and Popp reference biophotons....emission in the UV range
Montagnier: speaks about emission in the radio range.
Between them you've got the whole spectrum."

***

"The effect that Montagnier was studying was dependent on external EM activation/stimulation...something which could possibly be related to the Schumann resonance - the surface of the earth and the ionosphere. The ionosphere itself has an intimate connection with solar and cosmic radiation."

"Montagnier points out a similar frequency range, as is produced in this kind of biospheric resonating cavity of the whole earth, is produced in higher organism like ourselves...in our central nervous system."

"Like a kind of nested relationship. On the one hand, take some relationship that may exist with respect to a microbial organism in the biosphere as a whole. A sort of evolutionary process is able to encapsulate that in a higher organism."

***

"How would a pyhsicists define life?
On one hand, particulate and corpuscular and on the other hand, wavelike and continuous.
Every piece of matter having a more complex wavelike property: polyphonic.
A Beethoven symphony...If only Beethoven went into physics. :) "

[Hervé]

[...]

This “em genetic code” file has then been used to irradiate a second vial containing sterile water. Montagnier’s group showed that if, after a proper time of incubation, primers and nucleotides are added to this second vial and PCR reaction is performed it is possible to isolate a DNA almost identical to the original one from which the “water template” was obtained.

[...]

... or how to induce fast spreading cancers into bodies of undesirable whistle blowers... via EM waves.

[9eagle9]

Interesting....Water corresponds and represents a large portion of the psyche which is the emotional body. We tend to be ruled by the emotional body. It has subtle bodies or fields that compose it on different levels, it can be used as a means of control or be a means of freedom.

Nearly all control is imposed on the the field of the emotional body--water body.

Conversely this field when clearer picks up more subtle energy and the entire body becomes more aware of 'unseen' things.

To un-knot the chakras one has to address the emotional body first.

[9eagle9]

In ancient times, Jaynes noted, gods were generally much more numerous and much more anthropomorphic than in modern times, and speculates that this was because each bicameral person had their own "god" who reflected their own desires and experiences. He also noted that in ancient societies the corpses of the dead were often treated as though still alive (being seated, dressed and even fed) and argued that the dead bodies were presumed to be still living and the source of auditory hallucinations (see ancestor worship). This adaptation to the village communities of 100 individuals or more formed the core of religion. Unlike today's hallucinations, the voices of ancient times were structured by cultural norms to produce a seamlessly functioning society. In Ancient Greek culture there is often mention of the Logos, which is a very similar concept. It was a type of guiding voice that was heard as from a seemingly external source.

Jaynes inferred that these "voices" came from the right brain counterparts of the left brain language centres—specifically, the counterparts to Wernicke's area and Broca's area. These regions are somewhat dormant in the right brains of most modern humans, but Jaynes noted that some studies show that auditory hallucinations correspond to increased activity in these areas of the brain.


It’s interesting to notice that cultures that have draconic archetypes as heavy signifier or known cultural shapes such as the early gaels, celts and the Chinese are very much into ancestor ‘worship’. The druids would cast bones (runes) of ancestors, of a particular person and convey what the blood had to tell. The bones of the ancestors would create some stirring the individuals and the druid could hear/read whatever the blood had to tell.


Having a well developed psychic center for lack of a better word, when non intuitive information began coming to me it was so different than to what I’d pick up on intuitive level I was able to identify it as DNA-speak. That realization took place though over a long period of time mostly because so much of it was so ancestor based.

Which has led me to wonder if there’s a difference between the two at all save for the level or field that it is given from.


The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality.

It that has given us it’s mind. Lol. Oh Yay! There that phrase pretty much sums up bottom line a psycho or sociopath. They tend to view the world while as having ‘others’ in it they are the only thing that matters in the world. they are the only thing that is ‘real’. Everyone else is just a sort of bag of flesh walking around, unrelated to them in any way, and they are the only one’s that matter.


"The Archons are a genuine species with their own proper habitat, and may even be considered to be god-like, but they lack intentionality (ennoia: self-directive capacity), and they have a nasty tendency to stray from their boundaries and intrude on the human realm. Archons are said to feel intense envy toward humanity because we possess the intentionality they lack."


Gotta say people who have unmastered emotional bodies are the same way. Co dependents, needy, they know NO boundaries, and hold a great deal of hostility and resentment towards those who don't feed their animals. I’d question if the emotional out of control state is what causes the alchemical tides or vice versa. Did the alchemical stew create this field or did the field impose influence on the alchemical make up of the individual. So this takes us outside influences that may have been given over in a familial sense and those people came into the world that way.

Where as there are those who can tame through self reflection and processing can tame or release the parasite so they are not compelled to feed all the time.

Parasites like nice people. They don't have to fight so hard to get what they want. It correlates to this insistence in the world that everyone should 'love' each other and be nice and send energy back and forth. The pseudo new age movement has just a whole new source of shuddering from me. I may be running to dose myself with horse wormer the next time someone sends love and light to me.


Once the parasite becomes sufficiently entrenched within the psyche, the prime directive coordinating a person’s behavior comes from the disease, as it is now the one calling the shots. Just as someone infected with the rabies virus will resist drinking water, which would flush out the infection, someone taken over by the wetiko parasite will have nothing to do with anything that will help them get rid of the disease. Wetikos are phobic towards the light of truth, which they avoid like the plague. In advanced stages, this process takes over the person so completely that we could rightfully say the person is no longer there; they are just an empty shell carrying the disease.

Oh yeah, who and what does that sound like. A huge portion of people who claim love and light on this very superficial mask level are precisely that way. The love and light revolution has become their mask. Before them a great portion of the fundamental religious herds. Because a truer type of person may have a desire to get back to authentic light, authentic love , both concepts are weilded as honey pots for the internal parasite to feed on.

Okay this is what I observe. Like in a direct observational way . There are people with masks, call them protective defenses against the hostile world. You can see through them to something a bit more substantial. Then some who are even more substantial. Then there are those lack anything of reality, and have just the mask. A mask that reacts it can’t integrate.

If the areas of our "reptilian" brain functioned as a main storehouse for instincts and archetypes, then wouldn't it follow to reason that any foreign seed that took root there would mature with reptilian characteristics?


Here is a question that has always plagued me if we branched off into different aspects with the only commonality being the 'human' form. .. What if everyone is not possessed of a reptilian mind. What if didn’t form in some? Or perhaps during the course of evolution either got stronger or weaker. How would we know without breaking open the heads of everyone? If we take what has been presented so far it indicates that perhaps not everyone did.

A cold BLOODED animal that waits for the sun to warm it.


The psycho-spiritual parasite lies in it's reptilian nest eliciting emotional responses by organizing circumstances in the subconscious mind to foster it's "food" ...

I observe t his in people as well. With no external food source, the parasite agitates them via their mental and emotional body , thoughts and feelings, to a state of morbidness. And then feeds on it. If its not introducing this morbidness it uses what is already stored in the emotional body. They self agitate.

"They imposed their mind on us"

How many people do YOU know who get either withdrawn or more likely , their knickers in a bind, when you don't share the same sort of mind-set. they can't get what they want so they attack when the animal doesn't just traipse into the trap.






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My nickel for the day.

[eaglespirit]

"They imposed their mind on us"

I am delivering this consistently lately to those that are listening in front of me...
and more are listening in front of me.

[Hervé]

[...]

Now, lets look at the physical brain a little closer. There are a few areas in particular that I'm interested in that are associated with our subconscious plinth and our instincts. Namely, the basal ganglia, the cerebellum, the brain stem, and the amygdala.

Here is an excerpt from http://www.buffalostate.edu/orgs/bcp/brainbasics/triune.html:



The reptilian complex, also known as the R-complex or "reptilian brain" was the name MacLean gave to the basal ganglia, structures derived from the floor of the forebrain during development. The term derives from the fact that comparative neuroanatomists once believed that the forebrains of reptiles and birds were dominated by these structures. MacLean proposed that the reptilian complex was responsible for species typical instinctual behaviors involved in aggression, dominance, territoriality, and ritual displays.

Source: http://www.buffalostate.edu/orgs/bcp/brainbasics/triune.html
Here is another excerpt from Wikipedia:



Although the role of the basal ganglia in motor control is clear, there are also many indications that it is involved in the control of behavior in a more fundamental way, at the level of motivation. In Parkinson's disease, the ability to execute the components of movement is not greatly affected, but motivational factors such as hunger fail to cause movements to be initiated or switched at the proper times. The immobility of Parkinsonian patients has sometimes been described as a "paralysis of the will". These patients have occasionally been observed to show a phenomenon called kinesia paradoxica, in which a person who is otherwise immobile responds to an emergency in a coordinated and energetic way, then lapses back into immobility once the emergency has passed.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia
Another excerpt from www.science.howstuffworks.com (http://www.science.howstuffworks.com)



Lower animals, such as fish, amphibians, reptiles and birds, don't do much "thinking," but instead concern themselves with the everyday business of gathering food, eating, drinking, sleeping, reproducing and defending themselves.

These are instinctual processes. Therefore, their brains are organized along the major centers that control these functions.

We humans perform these functions as well, and so have a "reptilian" brain built into us. That means we have the same parts of the brain found in reptiles, namely the brain stem and the cerebellum.
[...]

Hi Vivek,

A few bones to worry over and get to the marrow...

These kind of results and cogitations I excerpted from your post are the product of "Darwinism" and pseudo "evolution," although the "embryology retracing the phylogeny" may have some truth to it, it only applies to the biological organism.

The problem gets complicated when a sentient being occupies an organism (if you never read the Dianetics book, cover-to-cover I would encourage you to do so) because, then the debate "structure versus function" goes to "Function" as the dominant factor.

On the premise of function being boss, then the whole genetic hooplas TPTB is shoving down our throat via their medical/psychiatric right arm, as in "everything is genetic" and "there isn't much you can do about it since you were born that way..." falls off into the abyss of "great hoaxes" played on the human race.

Why?

Get someone with a chronic cough on an OBE stroll... and listen who/what is coughing now... the body stops coughing... the being is hacking away in the astral realm... same goes with phobias! Heck, try it with someone who screams in terror at mice... :)

And that's all there is to all these "genetic diseases" and to "it's all a brain chemical imbalance" trumped up as "great scientific discoveries" by TPTB MSM.

Here is a great example from Steve Richards:



Steve: Okay, there’s a whole range of things out there today, you know, interfering with people today. You’ve got one, you’ve got thoughts, thought‐form, become life forms, that evolve into entities, internal. You’ve got external entities out there. You go to the local pub, and you get on the grogs [Aussie term for alcoholic beverages] and the alcohol, their defenses are down, in they come, and they take over. You’ve got genetic stuff that can have stuff attached to it down through the time, where you have other beings attached. You can have animal spirits or human spirits in there. You know, animal spirits is an interesting one, I mean, I had a beauty one day, this guy he’s been over twenty psychiatrists and psychologists and no one can help him.

He comes to me, holds his arms out and he says, “look at this,” and he’s got stitches at both elbows. He said, “I’m getting thrown around the room by an invisible force. They broke both me arms, broke three of me ribs, you know another time jumped in me girlfriend and ripped half the hair out of me head, clawed me.” He said, “this thing’s huge, I want to get rid of it.” I say, ‘okay, get on the table.’ So I said, ‘when did it start?’ He said, “Nine to ten years ago I went to a party, and I got drunk. I woke the next morning, there’s a guy on my chest belting the living daylights out of me, accusing me of stealing. Never been so petrified in my entire life. From that day on this thing would surface. It was huge. It would pick me up, throw me across the room, threw me down flights of stairs, broke me arms, broke me ribs, I want to get rid of it.” Back on the table. I accessed, I called this thing up and next thing I’m hanging onto his head, by these two points I’m holding, and he starts physically shapeshifting. His mouth extends out and he starts yawning long yawns, and belching. And its like something twenty times my size belching away on the table. I thought, ‘what in the hell have I got here?’ I said, ‘Spirit, how far back in time did this take place?’ And instantly speaking out of him his Spirit said, “fifteen‐hundred years ago.” ‘Thank you. Go there, what happened?’ “I’m a hunter.” ‘Thank you. And what’s happening?’ “I’ve hunted down a bear.” ‘Thank you, what happened?’ “I got close to the bear, I thought it was dead, it was still alive. It turned on me. Bit off my right arm, bit off me left arm, and clawed me to death. “ He and the bear had now both died in an integrated universe of fear which has been asleep for fifteen‐hundred years. Nineteen years ago he’d never been so petrified in his entire life it triggered up that dimension which now overlaid itself in present day. The Spirit of the bear’s in there and he wants out, it’s throwing him around the room. I had to bring the Spirit of the bear up, enfold space‐time, send him back fifteen‐hundred years, change the past and the present for the future. Then set, put him aside, bring the man back fifteen‐hundred years, change the past and the present so it never occurs in the future cycle of time. Release the Spirit of the bear, the guy gets up, ‘My God, it makes so much sense, I’ve had nightmares for years about being attacked by a bear. That and of all, look at this. He took his shirt off and turned around, his back and his backside and his chest were covered in hairs two inches long. The thing was morphing through into him.

This throws Darwin theory totally out the window, ‘cause Darwin theory is based only on the physical structure down the genetic line, it does not take into consideration the other forces that enter with the Spirit, and they’re in the vehicle. You get people sometimes barking like a dog and clucking like a chicken – Tourette’s syndrome. I go in and take up the animal Spirits, and take them out, and no more Tourette’s.


Think about it, both bear and man probably died on another continent... how come both memories get to incarnate on a different continent in a different body line and the guy's body starts growing bear fur?

Function is boss!

Since wikipedia is definitely biased on that one:


Structure and function are important, but misunderstood, concepts in the natural sciences. In life sciences, a structure is a physical object belonging to an organism, while a function is the survival purpose of that structure. This distinction may seem simple to adults, but it can be difficult for kids (who don't always understand the difference between an object and an action).

Something out of Wikipedia:


... in Lamarckian evolution the form is altered by the required function, whereas in Darwinian evolution small variations in form allow some parts of the population to function "better", and are therefore more successful reproductively.

Body building anyone? Super-soldiers?

Function as "intention":

That guy worked magic on his guitar with a crippled left hand:

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[Marin]

Just a few more thoughts with regard to my earlier post (#44). The material below was taken from an earlier thread of mine (about a year and a half ago). Perhaps the timing is right... this time around. :)

Leonard Horowitz revealed that the primary function of DNA is not in protein synthesis but bioacoustic and bioelectric signaling (electromagnetic energy reception and transmission). They determined that 90% of DNA functions of its structured water protein crystal lattice complex works as an antenna to receive sounds and to translate this sound into light/bioelectric signaling throughout the body. The ordered molecules of the clustered water increase its electrical signaling capabilities. Biochemist Steve Chemiske says that the hexagonal shaped water clusters supporting the DNA helix, “vibrate resonate frequencies which help to restore homeostasis to cell structures in the body through signal transduction.

According to Dr. Leonard Horowitz, the structure of more than 4,000 enzymes that regulate virtually every bodily function largely depends upon these hexagonal shaped water clusters’ communication to the enzymes through an intracellular “nano-structured” filament-like protein lattice. DNA molecules are generators of radio frequency signals, RNA molecules are amplifiers, enzymes and amino acids are effectors of the signal, and the cell walls are believed to be noise filters.

Guenter Albrecht-Buehler, Ph.D. spent over 30 years in determining that cells have intelligence and respond to specific data signals. The avenue opened up here in this field is one of cellular communication for intelligent healing, for it is the cells that determine how we are healed."

In studies done by Jingong Pan, Kang-Nian Zhu and Zhi Y. Wang at the Center for Bio-Signaling and Systems Research Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology in trying to find a relationship between water clusters and the Meridian system as defined by Acupuncture, several things were determined. Even though modern science can measure these Meridians using a Superconducting Quantum Interference Device (SQUID), the signals are more subtle than the cellular transduction signals so it is not known yet how the signals from the Meridian system interface with our biophysical body (bioenergetically). However, significant results emerged testing water clusters.

Heartmath Research Center has developed a new technology that can measure water’s ability to amplify weak electromagnetic fields. When a glass of water is placed a few feet away from a person, the electromagnetic field produced by his heart can be detected in the water.

Structured water has been shown to surround the DNA and assist in the production of the cellular protein lattices believed to be used in amplifying signals for cellular communication. Biophotons are the life energy source used in signal transduction of the DNA and cells."

I'd also like to include some of the work of Albert-Fritz Popp. His initial work on biophotons fits in nicely. I'll post that a bit later.

[lookbeyond]

"According to Iona Miller and Richard Miller, authors of an article published in Nexus based partly on Gariaev's findings entitled "From Helix to Hologram," "Life is fundamentally electromagnetic rather than chemical, the DNA blueprint functioning as a biohologram which serves as a guiding matrix for organising physical form." The far-reaching implication is that DNA can be activated through conscious linguistic expression (much like an antenna) to modify the human bioenergy fields, which in turn (like orbiting communication satellites) can transmit radio and light waves to modify the physical structure and functioning of the human body."
(quoted from Marins post)




Hi, im wondering if prayer is included as "conscious liguistic expression" causing the transfer of radio and light waves necessary for healing.
And then further, why does prayer only sometimes heal...
lookbeyond

[9eagle9]

And blood is composed of more than 90 percent water.

The emotional body is a represented by water because it behaves like water. Overly emotional displays result in watering eyes when one cries or is in a rage, or laughing hard.

Then we have blood that is basically water, flesh, plasma,minerals and metals that could be responsive/ reactive by electromagnetic influences.

So the blood connection besides its DNA content pops up again. So if the feeder parasites like psychic vampires enjoy distraught emotional energy that can be harvested from the emotional body when its triggered, the normal garden variety of vampire would be able to have this emo-harvest by the letting of blood . Or what memories are contained in the water, any thought recall has an emotional attached to it.

Funny how vampire novelists often write about how vampires often enjoy the memories and experience of the people they feed from.

Also puts the movie 'the Highlander' in a whole new light. Personally I think that is what the worlds struggles have amounted to, a sort of Highlander struggle between competing bloodlines but not in a 'good' guy way.

Releasing blood en mass like events of 9/11 would put a pretty deep depth charge, a ripple through the fields in the emotional body and then you have a release of lots of gallons of blood.

Because the emotional body has been and always represented by water what if the greater content of our emotions are there on a physical level in some fashion. I doubt its an accident that people refer to people as cold blooded (lacking emotion) and hot blooded (too much emotion) .

[CdnSirian]

"The problem gets complicated when a sentient being occupies an organism (if you never read the Dianetics book, cover-to-cover I would encourage you to do so) because, then the debate "structure versus function" goes to "Function" as the dominant factor."

I'm really sorry but there's nothing in Dianetics that relates to anything in this thread. Waste of time. Both structure and function are the effects of causes. From hundreds of hours of experience. Believe me, I wish this were not true. I wish the world was cleared, but it's not. It's probably way worse than it was the day Dianetics was published. Not relevant. Charging at windmills. IMHO.

A totally fascinating thread Vivek. And likewise in regards to all the threads it's connected to. I'm a little dazzled, because this thread and related threads connect many dots that emerged in print, or became more accessible, (and since, on line) in the late 70's.

Two kinds of humans? Oh yeah, you bet. Those ones that can appear normal? Real distractors, decades from your life. But then, at some later point, a couple trillion dots connect while you're washing dishes one day. Saves a little time...:).

Thanks all above. Honored.

[Marin]

Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=597469&viewfull=1#post597469) (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.

Some great ideas are emerging here.

Briefly, I wanted to re-visit this post and add one last piece: Biophotons. The possible link between the "nature of thought" and DNA: "An interface to the non-physical realms of mind, psyche and consciousness."

Biophotons, or ultraweak photon emissions of biological systems, are weak electromagnetic waves in the optical range of the spectrum - in other words: light. All living cells of plants, animals and human beings emit biophotons which cannot be seen by the naked eye but can be measured by special equipment.

This light emission is an expression of the functional state of the living organism and its measurement therefore can be used to assess this state. Cancer cells and healthy cells of the same type, for instance, can be discriminated by typical differences in biophoton emission.

According to the biophoton theory developed on the base of these discoveries the biophoton light is stored in the cells of the organism - more precisely, in the DNA molecules of their nuclei - and a dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA may connect cell organelles, cells, tissues, and organs within the body and serve as the organism’s main communication network and as the principal regulating instance for all life processes.

The processes of morphogenesis, growth, differentiation and regeneration are also explained by the structuring and regulating activity of the coherent biophoton field. The holographic biophoton field of the brain and the nervous system, and maybe even that of the whole organism, may also be basis of memory and other phenomena of consciousness, as postulated by neurophysiologist Karl Pribram and others.

The consciousness-like coherence properties of the biophoton field are closely related to its base in the properties of the physical vacuum and indicate its possible role as an interface to the non-physical realms of mind, psyche and consciousness.

The discovery of biophoton emission also lends scientific support to alternative and unconventional methods of healing based on concepts of homeostasis (self-regulation of the organism), such as various somatic therapies, homeopathy and acupuncture. The chi energy flowing in our bodies’ energy channels (meridians) which according to Traditional Chinese Medicine regulates our body functions, may be related to node lines of the organism’s biophoton field. The prana of Indian Yoga physiology may be a similar regulating energy force that has a basis in weak, coherent electromagnetic biofields."

http://www.marcobischof.com/en/arbeitsgebiete/biophotonen.html

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Something I just read the other day suggested that DNA could possibly be the holographic projectors.

The DNA could be projecting a field that would be experienced by other DNA in the body. The DNA, in a sense, could be linked together.

"We believe that the DNA is the projector of the biohologram, both at the cellular level and at the whole-organismic level. This means that the DNA creates a situation of a complex pattern of three-dimensional electromagnetic standing and moving wave fronts in the space that the organism occupies. We believe that these wave fronts interact with, interpenetrate with, and inter determine the physical substance that makes up the creature."

The biohologram has characteristic properties of affecting the DNA that occupies its specific position within the biohologram. We believe that the nervous system constitutes a coordination mechanism that integrates DNA projections of the rest of the cells in the system. We believe it is first and foremost a coordination mechanism. And it aligns these cellular holograms and the linkage of the whole creature hologram."

[mosquito]

What if ??

Having read this interesting article ...

http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54004-The-Third-Force-by-Preston-James-Ph.D (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54004-The-Third-Force-by-Preston-James-Ph.D)

... a thought came into my mind, and I think that here is probably the most relevant place to float this particular idea, seeing as there has been a lot of talk about "archons". I have to meander a little before I get to the question, please excuse me ......

There is no doubt in my mind that there is a hidden hand behind most of what goes on in our world, but I've come a long way from the idea of the "illuminati" or any other single organization being the string pullers. It's far more subtle than that. I also have little doubt that there are people involved in the shadow regime (call it what you will) who are to all intents and purposes evil. I'm equally certain that there are many people, probably the majority, to whom we can't really ascribe evilness. The more I've been around and experienced life in its' many aspects, and the more I've immersed myself in other people's cultures, the more certain I am that ALL of us are participants in the game, we all have something, however little, invested in the status quo. We unwittingly build our own prisons and seem hell bent on self-destructiuon. Despite having apparent free will, we continue to act unconsciously. From the above article and other evidence, it's also pretty clear that this is nothing new, the game is a transgenerational one. How does this work ?

I'm in the middle of reading a book titled "The Red Queen"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Red-Queen-Evolution-Penguin/dp/0140167722

which is all about sexual reproduction and human nature, especially how we seem to be programmed to unconsciously propogate our genes.

So, bearing all that in mind, and bearing in mind the discussion of archons in this thread, here's my question ....

What if - there is a parasite operating within the human genome ? It is self-aware, it replicates underneath our consciousness, and it has an agenda. It could be "natural" and indigenous to planet Earth, it could be alien, it could be manufactured. I don't know, I'm simply putting the thought out for consideration.

Thanks

[Chester]

Marin, this is an incredible post -- thank you. The correlations almost seem surreal.

I will add the work of Luc Montagnier to this as it relates to the thread.

What is Life? A Non-Particle View

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[There is overlapping dialogue around 9:30 to 11:00 minutes but it goes away.]

Please, watch the video and read the information in Marin's post.

This is getting good.

In the proto-planetary womb of Gaia there would be a cocktail of commodities.

For those that may not be familiar with Montagnier's work - here's a brief summary. I thought this might be helpful as it relates to some of the material already presented.

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2011/Winter-2010/Montagnier.pdf

"Luc Montagnier has brought together new evidence for a non-particle view of life. The emission of low-frequency electromagnetic waves from bacterial DNA sequences, and the ability of these waves to organize nucleotides (the raw material of DNA) into new bacterial DNA, by mediation of structures within water."

And....
http://www.pharmaworldmagazine.com/articolo/15894/just-waves-to-duplicate-dna

"Experiments carried out by French Nobelist Luc Montagnier may represent the beginning of a new scientific revolution: it would be possible, according to Montaigner’s results, to duplicate viral and bacterial DNA in the absence of the physical template of the DNA itself. Coding information would be transmitted by electromagnetic waves generating from water molecules."

"....The next step in the experiment consisted in recording the em emissions coming from water on a physical support, such as a CD or a pendrive. This “em genetic code” file has then been used to irradiated a second vial containing sterile water. Montagnier’s group showed that if, after a proper time of incubation, primers and nucleotides are added to this second vial and PCR reaction is performed it is possible to isolate a DNA almost identical to the original one from which the “water template” was obtained. «Our hypothesis is that the DNA replicates on the basis of the em signals it has transmitted to water. It would thus possible to synthetise different types of DNA according to the specific em impulse transmitted». According to the new theory, nucleotides in water solution would be “ordered” by the em memory encoded by water in such a way to replicate the original DNA sequence.

According to the quantistic fields theory, many properties of the matter would result from the sum of microscopic vortex, in a process called coherence. It is something similar to what happens in a biological tissue, such as epidermis, where cells are functionally linked and coordinated. «If, for some issue, tissue cells loose their coherence and coordination and acquire again all their degrees of freedom a tumor starts to grow.»

In the case of DNA replication, the transmission of em signals by water would occur in the form of a vortex of coherence; its quite long timelife allows for the creation of an high energy coherent excitation, which is the responsible for the activation of water electrons in the receiving vial."

The work has revolutionary implications for biology and our whole understanding of the universe.

David Wilcock, in his recent book, The Source Field Investigations, highlighted Montagnier's recent work: "DNA may well be created by a quantum template that we can't even see or measure directly, but exists as a structure in the Source Field. Could this energetic structure gather photons, atoms, and molecules together - to spiral life as we know it into existence? The answers may very well be staring us in the face, as Montagnier just discovered - but most scientists don't want to go there."

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With regard to the video Vivek posted (What is life? A Non Partical View), here are a few of my favorite bits:


"The evidence is always on the biochemical.
The question is: what else is it doing? Is it just a chemical signaler?
Now we know: DNA is putting out light, receiving light, putting out low freq radio waves and receiving it."


"We've tried to reduce biology and even cognition to the laws of physics and chemistry.
It has to be done the other way around.
The higher domain defines the lower domain.
The laws of physics and chemistry are incomplete."


"Gurwitsch and Popp reference biophotons....emission in the UV range
Montagnier: speaks about emission in the radio range.
Between them you've got the whole spectrum."

***

"The effect that Montagnier was studying was dependent on external EM activation/stimulation...something which could possibly be related to the Schumann resonance - the surface of the earth and the ionosphere. The ionosphere itself has an intimate connection with solar and cosmic radiation."

"Montagnier points out a similar frequency range, as is produced in this kind of biospheric resonating cavity of the whole earth, is produced in higher organism like ourselves...in our central nervous system."

"Like a kind of nested relationship. On the one hand, take some relationship that may exist with respect to a microbial organism in the biosphere as a whole. A sort of evolutionary process is able to encapsulate that in a higher organism."

***

"How would a pyhsicists define life?
On one hand, particulate and corpuscular and on the other hand, wavelike and continuous.
Every piece of matter having a more complex wavelike property: polyphonic.
A Beethoven symphony...If only Beethoven went into physics. :) "

Here's Icke - I have experienced all 4 of these "levels" of being (beyond pure particle physicality) - they are all in a strange way their own "world."

When you get all 5 of these "worlds" "talking" with each other, things get quite interesting.

Anyone still bored on this planet in this day and age?

David Icke for this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uci2PswSCJ8 - !

the illusory nature of “physical” reality “Solidity is illusional”

it operates on a

One
waveform level / a vibrational level

Two
on an electrical level

Three
on a digital level

Four
on a holographic level

all manifesting in what appears to be this fifth level of experience - particle physicality

[9eagle9]

If consciousness over the long term, and over generations affects dna, then consciousness could create a parasite. People who go for god knows how long just in this life without addressing the 'issues' and need in their emotional bodies become parasitical in the short term. If mind overcomes matter (dna) then that is a very real probability that parasites can insert themselves into the genome via conciousness.

Perhaps not the only way.



What if ??

Having read this interesting article ...

http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54004-The-Third-Force-by-Preston-James-Ph.D (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54004-The-Third-Force-by-Preston-James-Ph.D)

... a thought came into my mind, and I think that here is probably the most relevant place to float this particular idea, seeing as there has been a lot of talk about "archons". I have to meander a little before I get to the question, please excuse me ......

There is no doubt in my mind that there is a hidden hand behind most of what goes on in our world, but I've come a long way from the idea of the "illuminati" or any other single organization being the string pullers. It's far more subtle than that. I also have little doubt that there are people involved in the shadow regime (call it what you will) who are to all intents and purposes evil. I'm equally certain that there are many people, probably the majority, to whom we can't really ascribe evilness. The more I've been around and experienced life in its' many aspects, and the more I've immersed myself in other people's cultures, the more certain I am that ALL of us are participants in the game, we all have something, however little, invested in the status quo. We unwittingly build our own prisons and seem hell bent on self-destructiuon. Despite having apparent free will, we continue to act unconsciously. From the above article and other evidence, it's also pretty clear that this is nothing new, the game is a transgenerational one. How does this work ?

I'm in the middle of reading a book titled "The Red Queen"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Red-Queen-Evolution-Penguin/dp/0140167722

which is all about sexual reproduction and human nature, especially how we seem to be programmed to unconsciously propogate our genes.

So, bearing all that in mind, and bearing in mind the discussion of archons in this thread, here's my question ....

What if - there is a parasite operating within the human genome ? It is self-aware, it replicates underneath our consciousness, and it has an agenda. It could be "natural" and indigenous to planet Earth, it could be alien, it could be manufactured. I don't know, I'm simply putting the thought out for consideration.

Thanks

[Jeffrey]

Hello! I have finished moving, and I have been busy studying (the latter will be the case until June). I have little time to research this as much as I was, but I can still take a dip into the material with whatever free time I'll have.



What if ??I'm in the middle of reading a book titled "The Red Queen"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Red-Queen-Evolution-Penguin/dp/0140167722

which is all about sexual reproduction and human nature, especially how we seem to be programmed to unconsciously propogate our genes.

So, bearing all that in mind, and bearing in mind the discussion of archons in this thread, here's my question ....

What if - there is a parasite operating within the human genome ? It is self-aware, it replicates underneath our consciousness, and it has an agenda. It could be "natural" and indigenous to planet Earth, it could be alien, it could be manufactured. I don't know, I'm simply putting the thought out for consideration.

Thanks

Mariposafe, thank you for your post. The suggestion you've put forth is definitely one of the ideas being considered (or at least one facet). Not only that, but it is likely that this is the case (again, at least one facet of it).




"Astonishingly, only 1.5% of the genetic material in our cells codes for human life. Half of the rest is sometimes described as "junk DNA" with no known function, and the other half consist of genes introduced by viruses and other parasites." -Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17809503)

Here are a few articles I'd like to add to the thread. While reading them, keep in mind the concepts and ideas that have been presented thus far.

The following excerpts are from, Wired Science:




[B]People may not be quite the humans they think they are. Or so suggests new research showing that the human genome is part bornavirus.

[...]

In the new study, Japanese researchers found copies of the bornavirus N (for nucleoprotein) gene inserted in at least four separate locations in the human genome. Searches of other mammalian genomes also showed that the gene has hitched rides in a wide variety of species for millions of years.

[...]

Modern bornaviruses are known to infect nerve cells, but the new study shows that the viruses are capable of infecting and inserting genes into many other types of cells. For the inserted virus sequences to pass to the next generation, the ancient infection must have happened in tissues that give rise to eggs or sperm. Scientists call these tissues the germ line.

“The fact that these viruses were able to get into the germ line, which requires many chance events, implies that they may insert at some appreciable frequency,” Gifford says.

Feschotte agrees. “That, to me, is a revelation,” he says.

He speculates that bornavirus could be another source of human mutations, especially in neurons. Some studies have linked infection with the virus to psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia. Feschotte thinks modern bornaviruses may worm their way into human DNA in the neurons, creating mutations in genes that could lead to schizophrenia.

Tomonaga says the schizophrenia link is “not likely.” Because bornavirus genes insert randomly in the genome, “it is not conceivable that mutations [caused] by the integration lead to the specific brain disorders, such as schizophrenia,” he says.

Source: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/01/bornavirus-in-human-dna/

From the New York Times Online:




The borna virus is at once obscure and grotesque. It can infect mammals and birds, but scientists know little about its effects on its victims. In some species it seems to be harmless, but it can drive horses into wild fits. The horses sometimes kill themselves by smashing in their skulls. In other cases, they starve themselves to death. Some scientists have even claimed that borna viruses alter human behavior, playing a role in schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, although others say there is no solid evidence of a link.

The virus now turns out to have an intimate bond with every person on Earth.

[...]

Retroviruses carry their genetic material in a single-stranded version of DNA, called RNA. To make new viruses, they make DNA versions of their genes, which are inserted into a host cell’s genome. The cell then reads the retrovirus’s genes as if they were its own, and manufactures new retroviruses.

Scientists speculated that every now and then a retrovirus inserted itself into a host cell and then failed to turn it into a virus factory. If the trapped retrovirus happened to be in sperm or egg cells, its DNA might be passed down to the host’s descendants. From generation to generation, the virus’s DNA would mutate. It would lose its ability to produce normal viruses. For a while it might be able to make new viruses that could re-infect the same cell, but over enough time, the viruses would become disabled.

[...]

Fossil viruses are also illuminating human evolution. Scientists estimate that 8.3 percent of the human genome can be traced back to retrovirus infections. To put that in perspective, that’s seven times more DNA than is found in all the 20,000 protein-coding genes in the human genome.

But that figure may be too low, according to Dr. Katzourakis. “The measurable diversity of viruses may go up, and the true diversity may be much higher,” he said.

For one thing, some viruses may be too well hidden for scientists to see. The discovery of borna viruses in the human genome is another reason to wonder if we’re actually more viral than we know. All fossil viruses discovered until now have been retroviruses, but borna viruses are not.

Unlike retroviruses, borna viruses do not insert themselves into host genomes. Instead, they take up residence inside the nucleus, the chamber that holds our DNA. There, they manipulate the cell’s proteins to make new copies of themselves.

[...]

Two of the four copies of the borna virus gene carry crippling mutations. It’s impossible for our cells to make proteins from them. But the other two genes look remarkably intact, perhaps suggesting that our bodies use them for our own benefit. Exactly what they do isn’t clear though.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/science/12paleo.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Here's a PDF illustrating viral mediated gene delivery --->

http://www.sciencemag.org/site/products/posters/GeneDeliveryPoster.PDF

Here are a few relevant excerpts from an article out of Scientific American entitled, Are Viruses Alive?:




It is easy to see why viruses have been difficult to pigeonhole. They seem to vary with each lens applied to examine them. The initial interest in viruses stemmed from their association with diseases — the word “virus” has its roots in the Latin term for “poison.”

[...]

Further research by Stanley and others established that a virus consists of nucleic acids (DNA or RNA) enclosed in a protein coat that may also shelter viral proteins involved in infection. By that description, a virus seems more like a chemistry set than an organism. But when a virus enters a cell (called a host after infection), it is far from inactive. It sheds its coat, bares its genes and induces the cell’s own replication machinery to reproduce the intruder’s DNA or RNA and manufacture more viral protein based on the instructions in the viral nucleic acid. The newly created viral bits assemble and, voilà, more virus arises, which also may infect other cells.

These behaviors are what led many to think of viruses as existing at the border between chemistry and life. More poetically, virologists Marc H. V. van Regenmortel of the University of Strasbourg in France and Brian W. J. Mahy of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have recently said that with their dependence on host cells, viruses lead “a kind of borrowed life.”

[...]

Viruses, however, parasitize essentially all biomolecular aspects of life. That is, they depend on the host cell for the raw materials and energy necessary for nucleic acid synthesis, protein synthesis, processing and transport, and all other biochemical activities that allow the virus to multiply and spread. One might then conclude that even though these processes come under viral direction, viruses are simply nonliving parasites of living metabolic systems.

[...]

They also look on viruses as coming from host genes that somehow escaped the host and acquired a protein coat. In this view, viruses are fugitive host genes that have degenerated into parasites.

[...]

Furthermore, a virus genome (the entire complement of DNA or RNA) can permanently colonize its host, adding viral genes to host lineages and ultimately becoming a critical part of the host species’ genome.

Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-viruses-alive-2004

It's almost astonishing how many buzzwords there are in these articles that tie in heavily with certain aspects of this thread (bloodlines, two different races of humans, the archons, etc).

Plus, the articles haven't considered the morphogenetic field of a virus and it's possible implications with the hosts own field and any subconscious, subtle effects of those two interacting systems.

I know this post is more of a "data dump" without much correlative commentary -- but I am crunched for time! So, Mariposafe, the concept you mentioned in your post is not only conceivable, it is a possible reality -- heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's likely!

Of course, I am only speculating though. :p

See also: Hologenome Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hologenome_theory_of_evolution)

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[write4change]

Just a few more thoughts with regard to my earlier post (#44). The material below was taken from an earlier thread of mine (about a year and a half ago). Perhaps the timing is right... this time around. :)

Leonard Horowitz revealed that the primary function of DNA is not in protein synthesis but bioacoustic and bioelectric signaling (electromagnetic energy reception and transmission). They determined that 90% of DNA functions of its structured water protein crystal lattice complex works as an antenna to receive sounds and to translate this sound into light/bioelectric signaling throughout the body. The ordered molecules of the clustered water increase its electrical signaling capabilities. Biochemist Steve Chemiske says that the hexagonal shaped water clusters supporting the DNA helix, “vibrate resonate frequencies which help to restore homeostasis to cell structures in the body through signal transduction.

According to Dr. Leonard Horowitz, the structure of more than 4,000 enzymes that regulate virtually every bodily function largely depends upon these hexagonal shaped water clusters’ communication to the enzymes through an intracellular “nano-structured” filament-like protein lattice. DNA molecules are generators of radio frequency signals, RNA molecules are amplifiers, enzymes and amino acids are effectors of the signal, and the cell walls are believed to be noise filters.

Guenter Albrecht-Buehler, Ph.D. spent over 30 years in determining that cells have intelligence and respond to specific data signals. The avenue opened up here in this field is one of cellular communication for intelligent healing, for it is the cells that determine how we are healed."

In studies done by Jingong Pan, Kang-Nian Zhu and Zhi Y. Wang at the Center for Bio-Signaling and Systems Research Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology in trying to find a relationship between water clusters and the Meridian system as defined by Acupuncture, several things were determined. Even though modern science can measure these Meridians using a Superconducting Quantum Interference Device (SQUID), the signals are more subtle than the cellular transduction signals so it is not known yet how the signals from the Meridian system interface with our biophysical body (bioenergetically). However, significant results emerged testing water clusters.

Heartmath Research Center has developed a new technology that can measure water’s ability to amplify weak electromagnetic fields. When a glass of water is placed a few feet away from a person, the electromagnetic field produced by his heart can be detected in the water.

Structured water has been shown to surround the DNA and assist in the production of the cellular protein lattices believed to be used in amplifying signals for cellular communication. Biophotons are the life energy source used in signal transduction of the DNA and cells."

I'd also like to include some of the work of Albert-Fritz Popp. His initial work on biophotons fits in nicely. I'll post that a bit later.

This is excellent. I have read some of this before but it was not as clear to me. I have to get back to this. thank you for posting it.

[mosquito]

Hello! I have finished moving, and I have been busy studying (the latter will be the case until June). I have little time to research this as much as I was, but I can still take a dip into the material with whatever free time I'll have. .......

I know this post is more of a "data dump" without much correlative commentary -- but I am crunched for time! So, Mariposafe, the concept you mentioned in your post is not only conceivable, it is a possible reality -- heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's likely!

Of course, I am only speculating though. :p



Thanks for all this information Vivek, it's intriguing.

As I continue reading the book mentioned in my prior post, I can't help but notice the increased use of language which implies knowledge, consciousness and forward thinking on the part of our genes ! Of course, it could just be a rhetorical device for presenting theories in a way we understand, or not. The astounding amount of information we are now learning about the genetic level of life, including the info you posted Vivek, seems to me to be way beyond what's feasible with random mutation. I may be wrong, but I reserve the right to err if it means I can think creatively !

9E9 also raised an interesting point, though I tend more toward the idea that any genetic intrusion has a physical cause. But can we, either individually or collectively, alter our DNA conscioulsy ? I know it's talked about, but is there any real evidence rather than just wishful thinking ?

[Marin]

If consciousness over the long term, and over generations affects dna, then consciousness could create a parasite. People who go for god knows how long just in this life without addressing the 'issues' and need in their emotional bodies become parasitical in the short term. If mind overcomes matter (dna) then that is a very real probability that parasites can insert themselves into the genome via conciousness.

Perhaps not the only way.

Update: I made a few changes here to this post.

Agreed. Completely. Consciousness can affect DNA. Consciousness could also create parasites. Therefore, parasites could insert themselves into the genome via consciousness. My best guess, there's a whole lot of other scenarios we could include as well.

As a researcher (in molecular biology/genetics), I've followed some of the science - primarily because it's something I'm familiar with. It helped me bridge the gap between the known and the unknown. Intuitively speaking, I don't think we'll find all the answers in the "measurable" known. I don't think any of us do. We need to move beyond the 4% of our understanding and into the 96% before we truly understand how all of this operates.

That's the interesting bit.



9E9 also raised an interesting point, though I tend more toward the idea that any genetic intrusion has a physical cause. But can we, either individually or collectively, alter our DNA conscioulsy ? I know it's talked about, but is there any real evidence rather than just wishful thinking ?

To answer your question Mariposafe - from my perspective - I'd say yes. I do believe we can alter our DNA consciously.

Why? Because, from my perspective, EVERYTHING is consciousness. Consciousness created this "reality." We created this "reality." Individually and collectively. And we can change it.

Intuitive speaking, I "feel" we operate at this level because we're still operating in the mindset of separation. It's part of the illusion. Part of the game - that is - until we realize it's a game and move beyond the ego. RE-connecting with our own knowing.

[Mark]

Greetings all, I also have similar limitations as Vivek does for the same reason but I've taken today to catch up on a couple of threads. Here are some interesting correlations:

Flu comes from outer space, claim scientists (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2000/jan/19/spaceexploration.medicineandhealth)


It made the festive season a misery for many and threw NHS policy into crisis. But the flu may have worse in store, according to scientists who claim to have discovered an alarming explanation for the epidemic - a virus from outer space.

Dismissing as dogma the conventional medical wisdom that flu is a virus passed by human contact, the distinguished astrophysicist Sir Fred Hoyle, and his colleague at Cardiff university, Chandra Wickramasinghe, warn that we may be on the brink of a global epidemic.

In a report to be published in the journal Current Science, they claim the outbreak was caused by dust deposited high in the atmosphere by passing comets being forced down to earth by energy generated by cooler patches on the sun's surface, known as sunspots.

They reach the peak of their activity, the maxima, every 11 years, coinciding, the scientists say, with all major flu outbreaks since 1761, including the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic blamed for 20m deaths worldwide. The latest cycle began to peak in September and the maxima is due sometime this year.

Further ...

Is SARS from outer space? (http://articles.cnn.com/2003-05-23/tech/sars.fromspace_1_outer-space-sars-chinese-scientists?_s=PM:TECH)


The SARS virus might have originated in outer space, according to a scientist in Britain.

In a letter to The Lancet medical journal, professor Chandra Wickramasinghe of Cardiff University suggests the virus was introduced to Earth on a comet or meteorite.

Comets are known to contain many organic chemicals as well as water.

But international scientists are still undecided about research from 1996 purporting to show ancient bacterial forms in a meteorite from Mars.

The professor and his team estimate a tonne of bacterial material falls to Earth from space each day.

To support his theory, the professor highlights the unique nature and sudden appearance of SARS in China.

He points to other mysterious modern epidemics like the Plague of Athens and the influenza pandemic of 1917-19 as also originating from the skies.

If the claim is true, travel alerts in China and Canada at the height of the SARS epidemic might not have been enough to stop the virus spreading.

Indeed, the professor warns it could still be circulating in the atmosphere, set to fall anywhere on Earth without warning.

"We should remain vigilant for the appearance of new foci (unconnected with infective contacts or with China) almost anywhere on the planet.

"New cases might continue to appear until the stratospheric supply of the caustic agent becomes exhausted," he said.

However, Professor Wickramasinghe admits there is no hard evidence for his theory, which has been ridiculed by some of his contemporaries.

"I think it is completely nuts," Dr. Anne Bridgen, a molecular virologist at the University of Ulster, told Reuters news agency.

"It has a lipid (fatty) coat on the outside and it would tend to dry out in an atmosphere such as space."

Professor Ian Jones, an expert in virology at the University of Reading in southern England, described the idea as bizarre.

And a spokesman for the World Health Organization told CNN though theoretically possible, there was no evidence to support such a claim.

"I find it hard to believe that it came from outer space. We won't be sending a WHO team to investigate."

Meanwhile, researchers in Hong Kong say they might have traced the SARS to civet cats, a delicacy eaten by some Chinese.

The claim came after a month-long investigation by Hong Kong and Chinese scientists tracking the source of the disease.

And on a related note ...

Scientists discover possible microbe from space (http://articles.cnn.com/2000-11-24/tech/alien.microbe.claim_1_outer-space-microbes-scientific-balloon?_s=PM:TECH)


An international team of scientists has recovered microorganisms in the upper reaches of the atmosphere that could have originated from outer space, a participant in the study said Friday.

The living bacteria, plucked from an altitude of 10 miles (16 km) or higher by a scientific balloon, could have been deposited in terrestrial airspace by a passing comet, according to the researchers.

The microorganisms are unlike any known on Earth, but the astrobiologists "want to keep the details under wraps until they are absolutely convinced that these are extraterrestrial," said study participant Chandra Wickramasinghe, a noted scientist at Cardiff University in Wales.

NASA's Ames Research Center posted a cautious reaction to the report on its Astrobiology Web site. NASA said the finding is likely to meet considerable skepticism in the scientific community.

"Aerobiologists might argue that 10 miles is not too high for Earth life to reside, a possibility that Wickramasinghe appears to accept," the statement said.

However, NASA said, a compelling case can be made for the transport of microorganisms through space aboard comets and meteors.

"A recent discovery indicates that microbes can remain dormant for millions of years -- enough time to travel from planet to planet," NASA said.

Disputing critics who suggest that the balloon was contaminated on the ground, Wickramasinghe said the experiment took place with strict controls. He does acknowledge the possibility that terrestrial bacteria could be kicked up into the stratosphere. Living fungal spores have been discovered at altitudes of 7 miles (11 km).

But observations from this and a related study suggest the presence of living bacteria far too high in the atmosphere to have originated from the surface of the planet, according to Wickramasinghe.

"What is present in the upper atmosphere, critics will say it came from the ground. That is a serious possibility at 15 kilometers, but at 40 or 85 kilometers, you can forget about it," he said Friday.

Wickramasinghe and colleague Sir Fred Hoyle published a report on the Web Friday about evidence that they say strengthens the hypothesis that unusual microbes float through the upper reaches of the atmosphere.

All of the above posted in support of previous postings by Vivek and others in regards to this quote from Lash's Metahistory site (http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienIntrusion.php):


The Nag Hammadi material contains reports of visionary experiences of the initiates, including first-hand encounters with inorganic beings called Archons. Gnostic teaching explains that these entities arose in the early stage of formation of the solar system, before the Earth was formed. Archons inhabit the solar system, the extraterrestrial realm as such, but they can intrude on Earth. Interestingly, this Gnostic insight accords closely with the view of Jacques Vallee, who maintains that ET/cyborgs probably belong to the local planetary realm. Vallee also proposes that the ET/UFO enigma is a “spiritual control system,” a phenomenon that “behaves like a conditioning process.” (Messengers of Deception). This is exactly what Gnostics said about the Archons: they can affect our minds by subliminal conditioning techniques. Their main tactics are mental error (intellectual virus, or false ideology, especially religious doctrines) and simulation. Archons are predatory, unlike a wide range of non-human and other-dimensional beings also know to the Gnostics, beings who are benevolent or neutral toward humanity.

1. Viruses are questionably inorganic, as scientists believe that they are on the border between organic and inorganic.

2. Viruses are within the very structure of our dna, replicating there over millenia, passed down from family to family to the extent that there are known and potentially hidden viruses within every person on earth that science has not yet discovered.

3. Viruses display an organizational sense and engage in directed activity focused upon survival and propagation.

4. Viruses can evolve to inhabit different types of life.

With these few statements in mind, consider the prevalence of virus-born horror and sci-fi movies these days. The "Zombie-Apocalypse". All of these generally begin with a virus that spreads to infect all humans who then crave blood, meat, brains, etc. As we arrive at a more mainstream knowledge that we as humans are compromised by something within us that is not actually "of" us, perhaps these movies are indicative of this "Invasion of the Body-Snatchers".

1. The Archons are inorganic.

2. The Archons are a collective hive consciousness formation.

3. The Archons have no will/initiative.

4. The Archons are reptilian-mind based, focused upon the lower-chakra energetic nodes, feeding off of the energy therein.

5. The Archons communicate through discursiveness, low-minded mental stimuli that cause corresponding emotional eruptions that feed them.

6. The Archons must flee a body once the mind has been mastered and their mutterings are no longer paid any heed.

Also related to previously-quoted science, there is the idea of bio luminescence and the body. From Marin in post #65:


Biophotons, or ultraweak photon emissions of biological systems, are weak electromagnetic waves in the optical range of the spectrum - in other words: light. All living cells of plants, animals and human beings emit biophotons which cannot be seen by the naked eye but can be measured by special equipment.

From Casteneda/Don Juan:


The flyers of the sorcerers' tradition are black shadows that we sometimes detect and explain away as floaters in the retina. Sorcerers know for a fact, by means of their capacity to see energy directly, that those shadows are predatorial and that they keep us alive in order to devour our awareness. Sorcerers say that our awareness is like a sheen around our total field of energy that looks to them like a luminous ball. To them, this sheen of awareness is like a plastic cover that would make the luminous ball shine even more if it were not for the fact that it has been eaten away down to the level of our heels.

Here is where the sorcerers description gets very disturbing to us; sorcerers say that the only sheen of awareness left in us by our eaters is the awareness of self-reflection. Therefore, all we are left with is the concern with me, myself and I. In our personal lives we have corroborated that the only force left in the immediate world around us is the force of self-importance, which comes disguised in the form of humility, compassion, altruism, kindness, you name it.

This sorcerer's description is of course our ultimate nemesis; we don't want to believe that we are being raised for food. In this sense, naturally, the sorcerers' tradition is at total variance with any other kind of spiritual tradition. Sorcerers say, and believe me, not out of cynicism, that every ideal we deal with in terms of spiritual traditions, religions, etc, is a device concocted by the flyers to keep us in a lull. Imagine our disquietude upon examining, weighing and pondering this proposition.

through recapitulating we can acquire a hard discipline which is the only means by which we can make ourselves unpalatable to the flyers. Sorcerers assert that the only awareness which cannot be eaten is the awareness produced by iron-handed discipline. The recapitulation seems to create a condition of fluidity and determination which is the discipline that sorcerers talk about, not the discipline of compulsive, routinary behavior.

Which is the gist of the sorcerer's way, which is also, not coincidentally, the path of enlightenment as put forth by mystical traditions time and the world across.

The science seems clear. There is also the potentiality, as noted by Marin, Flash and Mariposafe, consciousness is the key aspect of intersection, where the line blurs between disparate consciousnesses and where we become confused as to what is our mind and what is not. If, as it seems, the Archons gave us their minds and their physical manifestation is through the modality of virus infection - which happened many thousands or perhaps even millions of years ago - new research - per Mariposafe particularly - related to the Russian findings regarding DNA being able to be transformed through sound, i.e. chants, mantras, prayers, songs, etc., the potentiality to clear the DNA of the Archonic infection could certainly be one potential for individuals who utilizes such tools for personal evolution.

The Gnostic insistence upon orgiastic practices, evoking an energetic orb surrounding the practitioners who were then said to become "invisible" to the Archons, their call-and-response banishment formula said to cause their flight, the Toltec and Enlightenment-oriented traditions seeking to still the mind, all seek, at heart, to shift the inner energetic balance in a way that transforms the DNA from within, affecting and transmuting the very cells of the body in a manner that results in the creation of a vessel that is "too pure" for Archon habitation.

[DeDukshyn]

Well I have had the flu three times in the last 12 months ... and twice in the last 2.5 ...
It must be raining flu viruses hard from outer space ...
Hooray, now I have alien DNA in my body and Alien's have my DNA ... ;)

I have heard a couple other theories that viruses may well come from our own DNA. and perhaps certain viruses are a part of our own evolution. This may be mentioned in this thread .. I have some catching up to do ... ;)

[DeDukshyn]

Hello! I have finished moving, and I have been busy studying (the latter will be the case until June). I have little time to research this as much as I was, but I can still take a dip into the material with whatever free time I'll have. .......

I know this post is more of a "data dump" without much correlative commentary -- but I am crunched for time! So, Mariposafe, the concept you mentioned in your post is not only conceivable, it is a possible reality -- heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's likely!

Of course, I am only speculating though. :p



Thanks for all this information Vivek, it's intriguing.

As I continue reading the book mentioned in my prior post, I can't help but notice the increased use of language which implies knowledge, consciousness and forward thinking on the part of our genes ! Of course, it could just be a rhetorical device for presenting theories in a way we understand, or not. The astounding amount of information we are now learning about the genetic level of life, including the info you posted Vivek, seems to me to be way beyond what's feasible with random mutation. I may be wrong, but I reserve the right to err if it means I can think creatively !

9E9 also raised an interesting point, though I tend more toward the idea that any genetic intrusion has a physical cause. But can we, either individually or collectively, alter our DNA conscioulsy ? I know it's talked about, but is there any real evidence rather than just wishful thinking ?

I am just going to say how easy it is to change gene expression based on environment. If you starve yourself, but eat just enough calories to live without issue, and even say keep your nutirients up, you genes will change expression. This means some genes will turn off and others will turn on. This has been proven. What is happening is your body is changing gears so to speak to be able to operate as normally as possible on the restricted caloric intake. This causes each cell in the body to become extremely efficient, and extends the life of those cells as long as they can operate efficiently. Since this research has come out there is a bit of "cult following" of caloric restricted diets to promote longevity. It works in animals to extend their lives -- rats and mice live on average 1.5 times longer in this changed gen expression mode, so far in humans there is limited data, but lots of guinea pigs are currently out there.

Point being, if a simple environmental change can force gen expression change, I don't think it is a far cry that consciousness, or intent could also have some affect. In fact I do believe the mind disease in humans does create parasites. If that is so, then there is a flip side to all this ... ;)

[Jeffrey]

Somewhere along the way foreign DNA-like structures (from a local pseudo-conscious dust/plasma cloud) fell to the earth and became intermingled/inserted with/in the natural human's genetic code.

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Again, from On the Origin of the World:




And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him. He became a soul-endowed man. And he was called Adam, that is, "father", according to the name of the one that existed before him.


Sounds like panspermia to me. It also says that they "fashioned the brain" and that makes me think of this picture (from my previous post) of the human, reptile-like brain stem compared to the "fractal visions" image and images from the Egyptian hieroglyphs:

http://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/archonmagn.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Gray682.png/100px-Gray682.pnghttp://raggioindaco.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/knuphishorus.jpg

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Remember in the Gnostic scriptures ...

From Wikipedia:




One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. Sophia (Greek: Σοφια, lit. “wisdom”), the Demiurge’s mother a partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or “Fullness,” desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him to be within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality.

The Demiurge, having received a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm: He frames the seven heavens, as well as all material and animal things, according to forms furnished by his mother; working however blindly, and ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all his energy. He is blind to all that is spiritual, but he is king over the other two provinces. The word dēmiourgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.

Thus Sophia’s power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

This is fascinating. Imagine the Demiurge being this "natural" form in space -- actual space.

The Demiurge is wrapped in a cloud. Interesting term -- reminds me of an interstellar dust cloud or even the local "cloud" of plasma that surrounds the earth right now. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=546704&viewfull=1#post546704)

Now, Sophia is Gaia and Her power to create lies within the resonance of the planet. Our own minds being a part of that creation, including this natural archetypal repository. A foreign energy, nearly inert in terms of consciousness (possibly pseudo-concsious as per the article about "alive" crystals and helices in space and EM fields somehow related to consciousness), leaks into our environment. At a subconscious level we identify it with a certain archetypal template. There it takes nest and broods. By the mechanisms of our own minds it develops and awakens to a perversely aware sense of being. Hijacking that source of creation doled out by Gaia/Sophia to Her homegrown humans. Now, Sophia has inadvertently created "something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent."

The abomination expropriated a part of Sophia/Gaia's creative power by engaging our minds like a parasitic symbiont.

The Demiurge develops and "sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation" ... Memetics, morphological resonance, collective unconscious, fractals, holons -- the foreign installation grows and replicates itself. He is "blind to all that is spiritual" and the reflection of this outwardly is humanity's cancer-like growth on the planet. Neglecting our Mother Earth.

He is "ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all of his energy."

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The Gnostic texts describe archontic forces casting their seed into the navel of the earth. Seeds grow (or possibly fester in this case). This could be a psychological, archetypal metaphor (for an invasive, foreign energy) or it could be a metaphor pertaining to panspermia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia) (see also: this link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix&p=546576&viewfull=1#post546576)). The implications of either are equally intriguing.

There are a few more interesting correlations to take note of regarding all of this and shamanism.

Anthropologist Jeremy Narby noticed a connection between some commonalities in shamanic visions and DNA. Here are a few excerpts from a Q&A interview of Narby by Todd Stewart.




Q: The structure of DNA as we know it is made up of letters and thus has a specific text and language. You could say our bodies are made up of language, yet we assume that speech arises from the mind. How do we access this hidden language?

A: By studying it. There are several roads to knowledge, including science and shamanism.

Q: The symbol of the Cosmic Serpent, the snake, is a central theme in your story, and in your research you discover that the snake forms a major part of the symbology across most of the world’s traditions and religions. Why is there such a consistent system of natural symbols in the world? Is the world inherently symbolic?

A: This is the observation that led me to investigate the cosmic serpent. I found the symbol in shamanism all over the world. Why? That's a good question. My hypothesis is that it is connected to the double helix of DNA inside virtually all living beings. And DNA itself is a symbolic Saussurian code. So, yes, in at least one important way, the living world is inherently symbolic. We are made of living language.

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Q: What are the correspondences between the Peruvian shamans’ findings and microbiology?

A: Both shamans and molecular biologists agree that there is a hidden unity under the surface of life's diversity; both associate this unity with the double helix shape (or two entwined serpents, a twisted ladder, a spiral staircase, two vines wrapped around each other); both consider that one must deal with this level of reality in order to heal. One can fill a book with correspondences between shamanism and molecular biology.

Source: http://deoxy.org/narbystew.htm

Below are some excerpts from Dr. Narby's book, The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge.




Some biologists describe DNA as an "ancient high biotechnology," containing "over a hundred trillion times as much information by volume as our most sophisticated information storage devices." Could one still speak of technology in these circumstances? Yes, because there is no other word to qualify this duplicable, information-storing molecule. DNA is only ten atoms wide and as such constitutes a sort of ultimate technology: It is organic and so miniturized that it approaches the limits of material existence.

Shamans, meanwhile, claim that the vital principle that animates all living creatures comes from the cosmos and is minded.


As ayahuasquero Pablo Amaringo says: "A plant may not talk, but there is a spirit in it that is conscious, that sees everything, which is the soul of the plant, its essence, what makes it alive." According to Amaringo these spirits are veritable beings, and humans are also filled with them: "Even the hair, the eyes, the ears are full of beings. You see all this when ayahuasca is strong."

In their visions, shamans take their consciousness down to the molecular level and gain access to information related to DNA, which they call "animate essences" or "spirits." This is where they see double helixes, twisted ladders, and chromosome shapes. This is how shamanic cultures have known for millennia that the vital principle is the same for all living beings, and is shaped like two entwined serpents (or a vine, a rope, ladder...). DNA is the source of their astonishing botanical and medicinal knowledge, which can be attained only in defocalized and "nonrational" states of consciousness, though its results are empirically verifiable. The myths of these cultures are filled with biological imagery, and the shamans metaphoric explanations correspond quite precisely to the descriptions that biologists are starting to provide.

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If one stretches out the DNA contained in the nucleus of a human cell, one obtains a two-yard long thread that is only ten atoms wide (and the two ribbons that make up this filament wrap around each other several hundred million times). This thread is a billion times longer than its own width. Relatively speaking, it is as if your little finger stretched from Paris to Los Angeles.

A thread of DNA is much smaller than the visible light humans perceive. Even the most powerful optical microscopes can not reveal it, because DNA is approximately 120 times narrower than the smallest wavelength of visible light.

The nucleus of a cell is equivalent in volume to 2-millionths of a pinhead. The two-yard thread of DNA packs into this minute volume by coiling up endlessly on itself, thereby reconciling extreme length and infinitesimal smallness, like mythical serpents.

In the early 1980s, thanks to the development of a sophisticated measurement device, a team of scientists demonstrated that the cells of all living beings emit photons at a rate of up to approximately 100 units per second and per square centimeter of surface area. They also showed that DNA was the source of this photon emission.

The wavelength at which DNA emits these photons corresponds exactly to the narrow band of visible light: "Its spectral distribution ranges at least from infrared (at about 900 nanometers) to ultraviolet (up to about 200 nanometers)"...DNA emits photons with such regularity that researchers compare the phenomenon to an "ultra-weak laser." (see History of Biophotonics)

Inside the nucleus, DNA coils and uncoils, writhes and wriggles. Scientists often compare the form and movements of this long molecule to those of a snake.

There...is the source of knowledge: DNA, living in water and emitting photons, like an aquatic dragon spitting fire.

Source: http://www.world-mysteries.com/newgw/cosmicserpent.htm

Now, at least 8% of the human genome isn't human at all. It comes from foreign, viral DNA that has found a home in our genome. The below links have more information.

Ancient virus DNA thrives in us (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17809503)

Hunting Fossil Viruses in Human DNA (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/science/12paleo.html?pagewanted=all)




Fossil viruses are also illuminating human evolution. Scientists estimate that 8.3 percent of the human genome can be traced back to retrovirus infections. To put that in perspective, that’s seven times more DNA than is found in all the 20,000 protein-coding genes in the human genome.

But that figure may be too low, according to Dr. Katzourakis. “The measurable diversity of viruses may go up, and the true diversity may be much higher,” he said.

For one thing, some viruses may be too well hidden for scientists to see.

I can't spend anymore time on this post. The idea is that there was natural, pure DNA. Somewhere along the way foreign, viral DNA invaded the genome.

Castaneda describes inorganic beings -- some of them are helpful, some of them are nuisances, and then there are the predators.

There is this idea of Maninkaris in shamanism which may be spirits living within DNA. This sounds like an incredible fantasy, but just look at Sheldrake's theories, biophotonics, and consciousness. It seems that our DNA is a multitudinous cluster of subtle hitchhikers. Some may be naturally warranted, while others (maybe most) invaded the genome a long time ago. We may find ourselves now entangled in a Red Queen hypothesis type scenario now where these parasitic "symbionts" smuggled there way into our lives and thereby we entangled destinies so to speak -- but we left the door unlocked. In this way we engaged or "permitted" this in the past (temptation, deceit) and continue to deny it presently (denial, reaction, ignorance).

There is also an experience of Michael Harner's that is relevant here (Narby quotes him in his book). There are articles about all of this out there. Here's one well worth sifting through.

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/spiritual-warfare-and-the-human-soul/possession-and-predation/

As you can see, I've tried to make this as scatterbrained as possible :)

haha I will come back and clean this up later because it is actually an in depth topic in itself but very direct and very relevant. I have not done it justice here but I've been trying to get it out for the last week.

Cool stuff.

Peace

[Jeffrey]

Creating a bridge between these two threads with this post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55117-The-Technological-Revolution-Artificial-Intelligence-and-the-Invisible-Plague&p=635082&viewfull=1#post635082

[Jeffrey]

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Excerpts from, http://www.cracked.com/article_19161_the-6-creepiest-things-hiding-in-your-dna.html

Back in biology class, you were probably taught that DNA was a sensible, organized system. When they called it "the building blocks of life," you probably pictured DNA as a series of neatly edged Legos snapping together to form a cohesive whole. When in reality, DNA is more like an old scrapbook that someone has torn up, pasted back together, filled with old newspaper clippings about murder and then taken into the bathroom with them.

A large part of this internal mess comes from the endogenous retrovirus. A normal virus works by moving into a host cell and using it to reproduce, but retroviruses reproduce by actually mixing their own genetic material with the DNA of the host cell they're invading. If a normal virus is a home invasion robber, busting down your door and smashing up your stuff, a retrovirus is the creature from Alien, impregnating you with its horrible seed and producing a twisted mockery of everything you once were, and then laughing as that atrocity murders all of your friends. Metaphorically speaking, of course.

In the distant past, retroviruses picked up by our ancestors would occasionally find their way into the sex organs, and the newly virused-up DNA was passed along to their children. As a result of all this virus-laden boning, we modern humans have about 100,000 of these microscopic gate-crashers cluttering up our DNA. When you add in the assorted genetic trash they've left behind, more than 40 percent of human DNA is made up of ancient, sinister and almost certainly cursed viruses.

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But these viruses can't do much harm today, right? Oh, how we love your unflinching optimism, rhetorical question, but you're wrong again: Tests on the cerebrospinal fluid of schizophrenic patients (that's science-talk for "the brain juice of crazies") have revealed unexpectedly high levels of a particular endogenous retrovirus. This suggests that the misunderstood mental illness is, in fact, a long-term side effect of a retrovirus that we all have inside us already. It's no good locking the doors, people; that crazy is calling from inside the house.

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In people who are genetically inclined, this retrovirus can be "switched on" by a separate viral infection that occurs around the time of birth -- herpes, toxoplasmosis (aka Cat Zombie Disease) or even plain old influenza. Studies have found that babies born in winter months -- around flu season -- are at greater risk of developing not just schizophrenia, but bipolar disorder and multiple sclerosis later in life, suggesting that all three conditions might just be different reactions to the same retrovirus. Basically, if you catch a cold as a baby, you could end up building bombs in a shack to combat the lizard people who've infiltrated our government, and it's all thanks to the insanity that lives in everybody's blood.

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A group of scientists have been reconstructing the Neanderthal genome from fossilized bones recently, and when they compared their results with genomes of various humans from around the world, they discovered that most modern humans in Europe and Asia share between 1 and 4 percent of their genome with Neanderthals -- a trait that is not found among people from sub-Saharan Africa. In other words, if you're reading this and you have any European or Asian ancestors at all, you're technically not fully human.

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In fact, considering how long humans have had to mix with each other since then, the original human-Neanderthal genetic crossover might have been as much as 10 or even 20 percent. Neanderthals weren't the only interspecies bonees, either: In 2010, researchers discovered another species, the Denisovans, and to the surprise of nobody, we apparently stuck it in them, too.

Scientists think that about 10,000 years after the Neanderthal mixing took place, a group of humans came across the Denisovans in South Asia and thought, "Hey, any port in a storm." A few cooed grunts, sexy sax solos and millennia later, and presto! What parts of you aren't undead or a virus are probably subhuman.

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Excerpts from, Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors: A Search For Who We Are by Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan

If the information in the DNA has come to be through the patient evolutionary process, why is a god needed to explain the injection of data, genes, or souls in the first place?

So could souls have provided consciousness back then? A deity responsible on a case — by — case basis for precision injection of souls into this immense host of tiny creatures over the full range of geological time would be a very fussy as well as a very inefficient creator. Why not design it right from the beginning, and let life run by itself? Would the god responsible for the subtle, elegant, and universally applicable laws of physics do such slapdash, error ridden, journeyman work in biology — requiring hands-on attention to every pathetic little microbe when they already know perfectly well how to reproduce themselves and vast stores of information? Instead, all the god has to do is to encode directly into the DNA of a few ancestors whatever information souls are required to know. Souls and consciousness could then pass, on their own, from generation to generation, freeing the god for other matters, perhaps some of greater urgency. But if the information in the DNA has come to be through the patient evolutionary process, why is a god needed to explain the injection of data, genes, or souls in the first place?

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Does the DNA of humans, chimps, orangutans, dolphins, and elephants provide the instructions for these species to become conscious and self-aware?

Yes. The mirror self recognition tests provide us with the compelling evidence we need to believe this is true for all of these species. It is clear the ability to distinguish one's self from others has evolved independently in primates, dolphins, elephants and their DNA encoded cells.

Source: http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/1057

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Excerpts from, The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and The Origins of Knowledge by Jeremy Narby

According to Weiss, the Ashaninca believe in the existence of invisible spirits called maninkari. literally "those who are hidden," who can nonetheless be seen by ingesting tobacco and avahuasca. They are also called ashaninka. "our fellows." as they are considered to be ancestors with whom one has kinship.

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I tried reconsidering the question from a "shamanic" point of view. It was as if these beings inside us wanted to hide.... But that's what the Ashaninca say! They call the invisible beings who created life the "maninkari," literally "those who are hidden"!

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Later that afternoon, I returned to my office and started rereading the passages concerning the maninkari in Gerald Weiss s exhaustive study on Ashaninca cosmology. According to Weiss, the Ashaninca believe that the most powerful of all maninkari is the "Great Transformer" Avireri, who created life on earth, starting with the seasons and then moving on to the entirety of living beings. Accompanied sometimes by his sister, at others by his nephew, Avireri is one of the divine trickster twins who create by transformation and are so common in mythology.

It was in reading the last story about the end of Avireri s trajectory that I had a shock. Having completed his creation work, Avfreri goes to a party where he gets drunk on manioc beer. His sister, who is also a trickster, invites him to dance and pushes him into a hole dug in advance. She then pretends to pull him up by throwing him a thread, then a cord—but neither is strong enough. Furious with his sister, whom he transforms into a tree, Avfreri decides to escape by digging a hole into die underworld. He ends up at a place called Rivers End, where a strangler vine wraps around him. From there, he continues to sustain to this day his numerous children on earth.

How could I have missed the connections between the twin being Avfreri, the Great Transformer, and the DNA double helix, first creating the breathable atmosphere ("the seasons"), then the entirety of living beings by transformation, living in the microscopic world ("underworld"), in cells filled with seawater ("Rivers End"), taking the form of a thread, a cord, or a strangler vine which wraps around itself, and, finally, sustaining to this day all the living species of the planet?

For weeks I had been finding connections between myths and molecular biology. I was not even surprised to see that the creation myth of an indigenous Amazonian people coincided with the description made by todays biologists of the development of life on earth. What shook me, and even filled me with consternation, was that I had had this evidence under my nose for years without giving it the slightest importance. My gaze had been too narrow.

Sitting in my office, I remembered the time Carlos Perez Shuma had told me, 'The maninkari taught us how to spin and weave cotton." Now the meaning seemed obvious; the two ribbons of the DNA double helix wrap around each other 600 million times inside each human cell: "Who else could have taught us to weave?" The problem for me was that I had not believed him. I had not considered for one moment that his words corresponded to something real.

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I was now of the opinion that DNA was at the origin of shamanic knowledge. By "shamanism," I understood a series of defocalization techniques: controlled dreams, prolonged fasting, isolation in wilderness, ingestion of hallucinogenic plants, hypnosis based on a repetitive drumbeat, near-death experience, or a combination of the above. Aboriginal shamans of Australia reach conclusions similar to those of Amazonian ayahuasqueros, without the use of psychoactive plants, by working mainly with their dreams. What techniques did Chuang-Tzu, the Egyptian pharaohs, and die animists of Benin use, to name but a few? Who could say? But they all spoke, in one form or another, of a cosmic serpent— as did the Australians, the Amazonians, and the Aztecs.

By using these different techniques, it therefore seemed possible to induce neurological changes that allow one to pick up information from DNA. But from which DNA? At first 1 thought that I had found the answer when I learned that, in each human cell, there is the equivalent of "the information contained in one thousand five hundred encyclopedia volumes"6—in other words, the equivalent of a bookcase about ten yards long and two yards high. There, I thought, is the origin of knowledge.

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I knew of no neurological mechanism on which to base this working hypothesis, but I did know that DNA was an aperiodic crystal that traps and transports electrons with efficiency and that emits photons (in other words, electromagnetic waves) at ultra-weak levels currently at the limits of measurement—and all this more than any other living matter. This led me to a potential candidate for the transmissions: the global network of DNA-based life.

All living beings contain DNA, be they bacteria, carrots, or humans. DNA, as a substance, does not vary from one species to another; only the order of its letters changes. This is why biotechnology is possible. For instance, one can extract the DNA sequence in the human genome containing the instructions to build the insulin protein and splice It into the DNA of a bacterium, which will then produce insulin similar to that normally excreted by the human pancreas. The cellular machines called ribosomes, which assemble the proteins inside the bacterium, understand the same four-letter language as the ribosomes inside human pancreatic cells and use the same 20 amino acids as building blocks. Biotechnology proves by its very existence the fundamental unity of life.

Each living being is constructed on the basis of the instructions written in the informational substance that is DNA. A single bacterium contains approximately ten million units of genetic information, whereas a microscopic fungus contains a billion units. In a mere handful of soil, there are approximately ten billion bacteria and one million fungi. This means that there is more order, and information, in a handful of earth than there is on the surfaces of all the other known planets combined. The information contained in DNA makes the difference between life and inert matter.

The earth is surrounded by a layer of DNA-based life that made the atmosphere breathable and created the ozone layer, which protects our genetic matter against ultraviolet and mutagenic rays. There are even anaerobic bacteria living half a mile beneath the ocean floor; the planet is wired with life deep into its crust.
When we walk in a field, DNA and the cell-based life it codes for are everywhere: inside our own bodies, but also in the puddles, the mud, the cow pies, the grass on which we walk, the air we breathe, the birds, the trees, and everything that lives.

This global network of DNA-based life, this biosphere, encircles the entire earth. [Vivek: It is now known that micro-crystals can and will spontaneously form DNA-like helices in plasma and reproduce. The earth is surrounded by a plasma cloud, there are also theories that there is a plasmic body at the inner core of the earth].

Source: http://root.ps/download/tecnomagxs/Narby_cosmic_serpent.pdf

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[Jeffrey]

I've shied away from channeled material, even just reading it for entertainment purposes. I and others have stated plenty of reasons to be wary of such material.

Recently though, while doing some research, I was directed to the work of Barbara Marciniak. I've read her stuff on wanderers and the moon before, but not much else in depth. I was blown away when I started digging into it. I don't know about 12 stranded DNA and all that, but I do know something about the other things she speaks about based on my own research and creative analysis. Actually, there are some other people who have come up with similar stories, but you can only find them in science fiction (or some similar themes of David Icke).

Based on this thread and "The Technological Revolution" thread, I'm going to post some interesting channeled material from Barbara's work.

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Excerpts from, Bringers of the Dawn

Our ancestors were some of the Original Planners of Earth, orchestrators who seeded worlds and civilizations with creativity and love. Because of their qualifications, they liked to orchestrattworlds just as conductors love to conduct. Our ancestors are also your ancestors, and we like to call you our ancient fatnilv, as indeed you are. Our ancestors gave their DNA to the Original Planners, and this DNA became part of the DNA of the human species.

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The project of the Living Library on Earth was eventually fought over. It looked enticing enough to be mined by some. During Earth's early history, there were wars in space for ownership of this planet. Have you ever wondered who owns Earth? It's a prime hunk of real estate. Do you think it would go ownerless in space?

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When this skirmish occurred, a certain group of entities fought in space and won the territory of Earth. These new owners did not want the native Earth species-the humans-to be informed of what took place. Uninformed, the species would be easier to control. This is why light is information and darkness is lack of information. These entities beat out light, and Earth became their territory. It gives you a new idea of light, does it not? There was great radioactivity and nuclear action, and much of Earth was rent asunder. The original species, human creation, experienced great destruction and was scattered.

[...]

These new creator gods who were the new owners were also master geneticists. They understood how to create life, and they wanted this territory for their own reasons. Territories are created and held by certain energies for many reasons, one of which is that there is consciousness within all things.

Consciousness communicates continuously. Consciousness vibrates, or can be led to vibrate, at certain electromagnetic frequencies. Electromagnetic energies of consciousness can be influenced to vibrate in a certain way to create a source of food. Just as apples can he prepared and eaten in a variety of ways, consciousness can be prepared and ingested in a variety of ways.

Some entities, in the process of their own evolution, began to discover that as they created life and put consciousness into things through modulating the frequencies of forms of consciousness, they could feed themselves; they could keep themselves in charge.

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The new owners of this planet had a different appetite and different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves with chaos and fear. These things fed them, stimulated them, and kept them in power.

These new owners who came here 300,000 years ago are the magnificent beings spoken of in your Bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets, and in texts all over the world. They came to Earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power.

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When the great library of yourselves was put into chaos, there was a little bit of data left that kept the species controllable, operable, manageable, and yet functioning on its own, performing tasks and stimulating it as a life form and form of consciousness to produce a certain frequency: fear. This fear has been promoted for the past 300,000 years on this planet as a controlled substance in every version that you can think of.

When a human being resonates electromagnetically and broadcasts the frequency of fear, a transmission of consciousness is sent out. Where does that fear go? Where do your thoughts go? Where do your emotions go? We have already said that, collectively, consciousness forms food.

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When the new owners came in, they worked in their laboratories and created versions of humans with a different DNA-the two-stranded, double-helix DNA. They took the original DNA of the human species and disassembled it. The original DNA pattern was left within the human cells, yet it was not functional; it was split apart, unplugged.

Within human cells are light-encoded filaments, fine gossamer threads of energy that carry information. When these gossamer threads are working together like a cable-the way fiber optics works-they form the helix of your DNA. When you here rearranged, you were left with the double helix. Anything that was unnecessary for survival and that could keep you informed was unplugged, leaving you with only a double helix that would lock you into controllable, operable frequencies.

A frequency fence, something like an electrical fence, was put around the-planet to control how much the frequencies of humans could be modulated and changed. As the story goes, this frequency fence made it very difficult for the frequencies of light-information-to penetrate. When light frequencies were able to penetrate the control fence, there was no light to receive them. The humans' DNA was unplugged, the light-encoded filaments were no longer organized, so the creative cosmic rays that brought light did not have anything to plug into and hold onto. [Vivek: This type of thing used to sound like new age mumbo jumbo to me, but now it doesn't. Check this out. Creative, in-streaming cosmic information? Remember what Narby though about DNA? We know now that it can transmit frequencies and light (biophotons, DNA as a fractal antenna, Schumann Resonances). Mix that with the micro-crystal helices being formed in space plasmas. Could they act and transceivers just like our own DNA does? Could we somehow pick up on this information like Shamans communicate with the DNA of plants and other animals? Cool stuff.]

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Before frequency control was instituted 300,000 years ago by the raiding group of creator gods, the native species was somewhat clever. They had a very evolved system of receiving information and could directly receive on the planet from space contacts. They also had many different ways of distributing knowledge as it was received. Distributing knowledge on the planet at this time is based on technology- something outside of yourself. It is another clever bill of goods you were sold as a means of control. A long time ago, communication on this planet occurred through contact with one another by the use of internal mechanisms, not by technology outside of yourself.

Most humans cannot grasp that their history goes back more than a few thousand years. You will learn, remember, and teach the planet that it has a history of millions of years. First, you will uncover and integrate the history of the planet for the past 300,000 years so that you can expand the picture of the human dilemma. Remember, the history is all inside of you, not outside of you.

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God with a big G has never visited this planet as an entity. God with a big G is in all things. You have only dealt with gods with a little g who have wanted to be adored and to confuse you, and who have thought of Earth as a principality, a place that they own out in the galactic fringes of this free-will universe.

Before the raid, you had tremendous abilities. The original biogenetic example of the human was given incredible information, was interdimensional, and could do many things. When those creator gods raided, they found that the local species knew too much. The local species had abilities that were too much like those who were passing themselves off as God.

A biogenetic manipulation was done, and there was much destruction. There were experimental versions of the species brought onto the planet, where the original database was scattered but not destroyed. At one time, your DNA was intact. It was like a beautiful library where the information was all catalogued and referenced and you could find anything you wanted to find instantly. When- the biogenetic alteration occurred to unplug the data, it eras as if someone hid the reference system and pulled all the books off the shelves and heaped them into a pile on the door so that there was no order to them. This is how your DNA was scattered and scrambled by the raiders a long time ago.

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All of the genetic information was scattered; it did not have an order, but it was left inside the cells. The only information that remained for you to play with and to keep you functioning was the double helix. Many of the databases along the double helix were shut down, closed, so that you began to function with very little data. You were very easy to manipulate and control by many aspects of consciousness passing themselves off as God with a big G.

Certain entities took the existing species, which was indeed a glorious species, and retooled it for their own uses, their own needs. They disrupted the informational frequency inside human beings, changed the DNA, and gave you the double helix so that you could be kept in ignorance. Your frequency of accessibility was simply shut off so that you couldn't turn the dial of your own radio.

These creator gods set out to alter the DNA inside the human body, which is the intelligence, the blueprint, the code. If a code does not have a place to operate within, it cannot fire itself into existence or express itself into existence. If you are locked up in a little tiny room and never given any place to grow, you can never express yourself. The last number of thousand years, your code has been forced to fit inside a very limited DNA.

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Some of these creator gods married and merged their lines, just as on the European continent different monarchs and royal families have married and merged their kingdoms. The creator gods would mix one kind with another to see what they could create. Remember, they understood genetics, and all things were created by manifesting and using the life force and understanding how the life force works. It is beyond your comprehension at this time how vast this project has been.

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These space beings are part human and part reptilian. We call them the Lizzies because we like to make things a little less emotional and a little humorous so that you don't take them so seriously and get so upset. We are not here to frighten you-we are here to inform you. You know all of this inside you, and as you begin to open the history of who you are, some' of you will begin to access reptilian memories.

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Creator gods take many forms, and they are not all Lizzies. There are creator gods who are insectlike.

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Some creator gods created life just to have it take care of them or meet their needs. They have fed off your emotions. One of the big secrets that has been kept from you as a species is the richness and wealth that accompanies emotion. You have been steered away from exploring emotion because through emotion you can figure things out. Your emotions connect you with the spiritual body. The spiritual body, of course, is nonphysical, existing on the multidimensional sphere.

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You hold the history of the universe within your physical body. What is occurring upon the planet now is the literal mutation of your physical body, for you are allowing it to be evolved to a point where it will be a computer that can house this information.

This is going to occur due to biogenetic engineering that really has nothing to do with you. You can facilitate the process, of course, by intending cooperation with it. As a species, you are being biogenetically altered by the beings who created you and who redesign your DNA at periodic junctures in your history.

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As the helixes come into full force in a person, there is an awakening of the person's inner knowledge, knowledge that goes beyond what the person has been taught. This inner knowledge is knowledge of self, knowledge that says there is much more than this physical world. Believe it. Know, it. Understand it.

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As we related the story to you, the raiding creator gods who came in and took over needed to have you operate in a certain way in order to control you. They needed to unplug your intelligence, and so they did, by scattering and disconnecting the light-encoded filaments that form the helixes in your DNA.

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The whole planet has been controlled in such a way that you have been taught and trained from the time you first arrived here that you are not in control of your own reality. You have been taught that everything is circumstantial and that everything depends on something you have no say in. This is wrong! You are the one who controls your DNA.

You have complete control over everything. Until you discover that and believe it, you are subjected to whatever anyone else wishes to do to you in this free-will zone. And, in your innocence, you have been exposed to things that have allowed your DNA, your intelligence, and many other things to be controlled.

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DNA is a living history of truth and life. When one is able to merge with this history, one is able to go into realities without videos, tapes, or books. One is able to experience. Many native cultures were trained to find the remnants of the Living Library left upon this planet. That explains their reverence for Earth and animals and their understanding of the cooperation that runs through everything. These native cultures were purposely put upon the planet so that there would be a training ground and a place of potential memory activation when the time was right.

DNA holds the code. It holds the blueprint of identity, the plan for existence, the history of the universe, and the history of life in this particular locale. And, it is stored within the cells of humans. The original DNA of the stewards of this planet, the human occupants, had a genetic blueprint system that was based on the number twelve.

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Humans have been controlled by frequency for a long time. They are so used to this frequency control and the logical mind has been so overly developed in recent times that there is much suspicion and fear- a dark place of self that is so controlled that people are frightened to even go into it and trust that they could possibly receive information on their own. When you think of the entities who have modulated the way humans broadcast themselves by rearranging their DNA and instituting various scenarios and events upon this planet-and then funneling the results of this psychic energy through different portals out into space for their own reasons-you can see what you are battling.

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Human beings have been tucked away, hidden, and forgotten in the antiquities of time ever since their DNA was rearranged, because it is in the distant past of the chronicles of time when the species was alive and vibrating very differently. That time has been forgotten or shelved by some. As we have said, you have been in quarantine, almost as if you have been in the dungeons of time for so long that as the new eras have come forward they have forgotten that you have been here.

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When you are locked in evolution by frequency and DNA manipulation, there is only a certain kind of frequency that can broadcast. There is fighting with the self, and things seem to be more separated. As you become more complete, you do not separate things in such a way: you see that all things are part of the experience. Sometimes you become so lost in the experience of being human that you forget what you are here to do.

Source: http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Marciniak,%20Barbara%20-%20Bringers%20of%20the%20Dawn.pdf

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Now, I will say this. After reading about VALIS and the SSI (of John C. Lilly and Philip K. Dick), phylogenic memory, the Nag Hammadi, the anecdotal testimony of Credo Mutwa, the work of Jeremy Narby, the archontic interpretations of John Lash, memetics, mind parasites, loosh, human endogenous retroviruses, the teachings of Don Juan (Carlos Castaneda), the teachings of Sri Aurobindo on Asuras and Raksashas, the Wetiko Virus (Paul Levy, Jack Forbes), Michael Harner's ayahuasca experience, the theocrats of Kyle Griffith, Carl Jung, Jay Alfred, Philip Goddard, biophotons, plasma crystals in space, directed panspermia, the Schumann Resonance, and DNA -- I could've taken pieces of each of these and lined them up to stitch together a story from their common themes. Which is what I did in my own mind and it was very similar to what Barbara's come up with. I'm still researching, editing, learning, unlearning. Just finding this similar theme in Barbara Marciniak's work is pretty cool -- but it's no bible.

I have no idea about 12 stranded DNA and I'm not going to pretend to support it. As far as I'm concerned it's science fiction (all of it is), but I love me some good sci-fi.

Skim over this post again and re-read the first page in this thread and the first page of "The Technological Revolution" thread. It's pretty dang cool. I'm still reading and catching up.

EDIT/ADD: I almost forgot. She has some things about technology as well.

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Modern technology is one of the biggest weapons of frequency control. You have been sold devices for entertainment and convenience, and they are all involved with frequency control. We recommend strongly that you get rid of your television sets. They are the primary tool used to manipulate your consciousness on a day-to-day basis. This experiment is so finely tuned that you respond subliminally to disease via the television. So there is an entire generation that is killing itself by watching television-and supporting the medical society while they are doing it.

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Most of the subliminals on television are done through technology that was developed in conjunction with off-planetary beings. The use of subliminals to upset human consciousness has become a worldwide program. If you think about the houses that have two, three, and four televisions in them, you must agree that this has been a very successful marketing program. Some people who know about the subliminals on television feel that they are immune to them. However, the effects of television are so permeating that no matter how clear you say you are going to be, you cannot counterbalance what the technology is presently doing to your vibrational frequency.

We have said that there are entities who feed off your emotional bodies. Think about what a clever tool television is for them. All over the world, billions of humans are emitting emotional juices into the atmosphere based upon what they are watching on the tube. They don't have to have too many wars anymore to get you all riled up-they can simply make movies!

People who need to watch television are not tapping into the wealth of information within their minds and immediately accessible all around them. As a matter of fact, if you really want to evolve, do not read your newspapers, do not listen to the radio, and do not watch television. If you are able to be media free for periods of time, and you disengage yourself from the frequency of chaos and anxiety and stress and hustle-bustle and temptations of all kinds that you don't need, you begin to get clear. You begin to listen to what is going on inside of yourself and to live in the world and not necessarily be lost in it. You become clear. We cannot emphasize this enough!

Electronics also jam your frequency. Even when they are not specifically designed to jam your frequency, sometimes there is incompatibility between the electronic frequency of something and yourself. Plus, as we said, many of them are designed to create static so that you will always stay at a certain vibratory rate, turning you into safe, harmless, inactive, productive cattle.

What about computers? The second most predominant piece of hardware in the United States is the computer. How many of you go to work on computers and end up getting headaches, particularly when you work for large corporations and are hooked up to their mainframe? Large companies are into aspects of mind control; they use your minds to generate energy to achieve something for themselves. Personal computers are not as potent and powerful.

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There will be technologies that can counteract much of the frequency control: these technologies can change the quality of your air and water, and they can eliminate and seal off your home so that you are an integral of energy and nothing can bombard you. There are technologies that do phenomenal things. Do you understand how technology has been used against you? It has not been used for you. Television is not necessarily bad in itself, but it has been put to ill purpose. There is nothing wrong with technology. It is now technology is being used that is the bottom line. That is the difference.

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There is nothing wrong with technology. The major stumbling block of technology now in use on this planet is that it is used to separate, manipulate, and control people rather than to uplift them. Technology with love is the key.

Source: http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Marciniak,%20Barbara%20-%20Bringers%20of%20the%20Dawn.pdf

[CdnSirian]

"There is nothing wrong with technology. The major stumbling block of technology now in use on this planet is that it is used to separate, manipulate, and control people rather than to uplift them. Technology with love is the key."

I think that's important.