View Full Version : POTENTIAL, you are that which you are, REALIZATION
ROMANWKT
30th December 2012, 13:10
Belief is a double edged sword, it can elevate and bring all positive aspects into your life, in anyway shape or form, for all is possible, or it can run you into negative aspect of poverty, destruction, and quick death.
We were all born realized, what does that mean.
The Seven Deadly Sins and the Seven Heavenly Virtues have been linked to the seven chakras
Crown--------Humility 10--------0--------10 Pride
Third Eye--------Diligence 10--------0--------10 Sloth
Throat--------Kindness 10--------0--------10 Envy
Heart--------Charity 10--------0--------10 Greed
Solar Plexus--------Temperance 10--------0--------10 Gluttony
Sacral--------Chastity 10--------0--------10 Lust
Root--------Patience 10--------0--------10 Wrath
I brought this up just to show you an example as your state of realization at birth was Zero, if you choose to think that you arrived with a Karma or Sin, you will hang yourself by that belief.
Your realization as an adult should be that you are these thing stated above, there is no getting away from it, you are all these things, Pride, Lust, Anger, Fear, Grief, Apathy.
These are the powerful potentials that you were born with, which you also have the power of opposites to all potential, and that’s not all of them, there is MORE that you have not as yet brought into realization.
The first thing that you are thought when you are young is right from wrong in such a way that the conflict of who and what you are stays with you till death, you will never find yourself, you are forever at conflict of what you are.
The stories that you read as a child, or was read to you, always showed the good and the bad, and to always be good and reject the bad, as you moved on in years it turned into good and evil, dark and light, always us as the good ones, and them the dark ones.
Until you accept your capacity of who and what you are, you will be in a state of conflict, and resistance to all and everything around you. Your balanced state is ZERO, that’s how you approach all in life in that state, and a responsible choice to be otherwise.
All religions and doctrines create conflict and resistance within, balancing emotions and impulses by releasing/clearing will help you to stabilize the impulses to be one way or the other, there is no good and bad, because you are all of them, treat it as a gift, as a capacity that you have with responsibility, you have to be responsible for all that occurs in your life, as your life is the result of your conflicting beliefs.
Everything around you is designed to create conflict within, the parasites know this very well, and they rely on you to be always in a state of conflict through all of your virtues and non virtues capacity.
By knowing and accepting what you are and keeping your self on Zero state, you are free by your capacity to educate the parasites and put ones world in order without conflict occurring within, you are all possibilities and they don’t want you to know this, they control you by your virtues which we are brainwashed into upholding only the good ones as they then control us by the bad ones if that makes sense to you all, if they knew that you had found yourself, and you are capable of amending total retaliation to their destructive imbalances on this planet without inner conflict, things would be a little different here, we all have this capacity with understanding.
Everything is us and then its them, that our fault, there is no us and them, but there is the us who abide by one half of our potential, as they abide by both half of our potential.
Do you see, do you understand what is being said here. We are always in ZERO state, that’s what we can achieve, we were born that way, but we all have the capacity to be both, as is our realization with no conflict and resistance within.
This is an illusion, then treat it as such.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19867&d=1356872755&thumb=1&stc=1
You are all there is, there is no divide, you were born realized right in the center.
Fred Steeves
30th December 2012, 14:04
If I'm not mistaken Roman, you are referring to "the stance" again, also known as the "middle way". I've yet to come across a more powerful symbol of ultimate truth, than the ying/yang symbol you invoke.
Grumpy Cat
30th December 2012, 15:09
Balance in all things, and everything in moderation. That's one thing I've learnt in the last few months and it seems to serve me well.
Your post just about sums that up - thank you.
ROMANWKT
30th December 2012, 15:55
If I'm not mistaken Roman, you are referring to "the stance" again, also known as the "middle way". I've yet to come across a more powerful symbol of ultimate truth, than the ying/yang symbol you invoke.
Hi fred
Standing in the middle you are all the things that surround you in the symbol, the light and the dark, accept it.
regards
roman
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Balance in all things, and everything in moderation. That's one thing I've learnt in the last few months and it seems to serve me well.
Your post just about sums that up - thank you.
Hi Grumpy cat
Its that and more, will be continuing here, will go deeper.
regards
roman
Arrowwind
30th December 2012, 19:16
Roman, do you have children? Have you been with infants?
Tesla_WTC_Solution
30th December 2012, 23:50
the beautiful tree of life!
As Jung neared his 39th birthday in the spring and summer of 1914, he had the same dream on three separate occasions. The dreams involved “an Artic cold wave” descending over the land in the middle of summer. All of the land was frozen, turned to ice, and “[a]ll living green things were killed by frost.” The third time Jung had this dream, however, there was a different ending:
“In the third dream frightful cold had again descended from out of the cosmos. This dream, however, had an unexpected end. There stood a leaf-bearing tree, but without fruit (my tree of life, I thought), whose leaves had been transformed by the effects of the frost into sweet grapes full of healing juices. I plucked the grapes and gave them to a large, waiting crowd.”[2]
thanks for sharing the wonders of kabbalah with us :)
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 12:10
Roman, do you have children? Have you been with infants?
Hallo my lovey lady, Yes I know where your coming from and agree, yes one has to be mentally ready first, at a right age, but then.....................
We move on and sorry about the delays as they managed to get this big feverish flu, and after handling them both out of this really aggressive high fever, then it got me and been on my back for 3 days, so we continue.
warmest regards Arrowwind
roman
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 12:20
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MIND OVER GENES: THE NEW BIOLOGY by Bruce Lipton Ph.D. 2006.
Earlier in my career as a research scientist and medical school professor, I actively supported the perspective that the human body was a "biochemical machine programmed by its genes. We scientists believed that our strengths, such as artistic or intellectual abilities, and our weaknesses, such as cardiovascular disease, cancer or depression, represented traits that were preprogrammed into our genes. Hence I perceived life’s attributes and deficits, as well as our health and our frailties as merely a reflection of our heredity expression.
Until recently, it was thought that genes were self-actualizing that genes could turn themselves on and off. Such behavior is required in order for genes to control biology. Though the power of genes is still emphasized in current biology courses and textbooks, a radically new understanding has emerged at the leading edge of cell science. It is now recognized that the environment, and more specifically, our perception (interpretation)of the environment, directly controls the activity of our genes. Environment controls gene activity through a process known as epigenetic control.
This new perspective of human biology does not view the body as just a mechanical device, but rather incorporates the role of a mind and spirit. This breakthrough in biology is fundamental in all healing for it recognizes that when we change our perception or beliefs we send totally different messages to our cells and reprogram their expression. The new-biology reveals why people can have spontaneous remissions or recover from injuries deemed to be permanent disabilities.
The functional units of life are the individual cells that comprise our body. Though every cell is innately intelligent and can survive on its own when removed from the body, in the body, each cell forgoes its individuality and becomes a member of a multicellular community. The body really represents the cooperative effort of a community of perhaps fifty trillion single cells. By definition, a community is an organization of individuals committed to supporting a shared vision.
Consequently, while every cell is a free-living entity, the body's community accommodates the wishes and intents of its central voice, a character we perceive as the mind and spirit.
When the mind perceives that the environment is safe and supportive, the cells are preoccupied with the growth and maintenance of the body. In stressful situations, cells forgo their normal growth functions and adopt a defensive protection posture. The body's energy resources normally used to sustain growth are diverted to systems that provide protection during periods of stress.
Simply, growth processes are restricted or suspended in a stressed system. While our systems can accommodate periods of acute (brief) stress, prolonged or chronic stress is debilitating for its energy demands interfere with the required maintenance of the body, and as a consequence, leads to dysfunction and disease.
The principle source of stress is the systems central voice, the mind. The mind is like the driver of a vehicle. With good driving skills, a vehicle can be maintained and provide good performance throughout its life. Bad driving skills generate most of the wrecks that litter the roadside or are stacked in junk-yards. If we employ good driving skills in managing our behaviors and dealing with our emotions, then we should anticipate a long, happy and productive life. In contrast, inappropriate behaviors and dysfunctional emotional management, like a bad driver, stress the cellular vehicle, interfering with its performance and provoking a breakdown.
Are you a good driver or a bad driver? Before you answer that question, realize that there are two separate minds that create the body’s controlling central voice. The (self)conscious mind is the thinking you, it is the creative mind that expresses free-will. Its supporting partner is the subconscious mind, a super computer loaded with a database of programmed behaviors.
Some programs are derived from genetics, these are our instincts and they represent nature. However, the vast majority of the subconscious programs are acquired through our developmental learning experiences, they represent NURTURE.
The subconscious mind is not a seat of reasoning or creative consciousness, it is strictly a stimulus-response device. When an environmental signal is perceived, the subconscious mind reflexively activates a previously stored behavioral response no thinking required. The subconscious mind is a programmable autopilot that can navigate the vehicle without the observation or awareness of the pilot the conscious mind. When the subconscious autopilot is controlling behavior, consciousness is free to dream into the future or review the past.
The dual-mind systems effectiveness is defined by the quality of the programs carried in the subconscious mind. Essentially, the person who taught you to drive molds your driving skills. For example, if you were taught to drive with one foot on the gas and the other on the brake, no matter how many vehicles you owned, each will inevitably express premature brake and engine failure.
Similarly, if our subconscious mind is programmed with inappropriate behavioral responses to life’s experiences, then our sub-optimum driving skills will contribute to a life of crash and burn experiences. For example, cardiovascular disease, the leading cause of death, is directly attributable to behavioral programs that mismanage the bodies response to stress.
Are you a good driver or a bad driver? The answer is difficult for in our conscious creative mind we may consider ourselves as good drivers, however self-sabotaging or limiting behavioral programs in our subconscious unobservedly undermine our efforts. We are generally consciously unaware of our fundamental perceptions or beliefs about life. The reason is that the prenatal and neonatal brain is predominately operating in delta and theta EEG frequencies through the first six years of our lives. This low level of brain activity is referred to as the hypnogogic state.
While in this hypnotic trance, a child does not have to be actively coached by its parents for they obtain their behavioral programs simply by observing their parents, siblings, peers and teachers. Did your early developmental experiences provide you with good models of behavior to use in the fourteen fold of your own life?
During the first six years of life a child unconsciously acquires the behavioral repertoire needed to become a functional member of society. In addition, a child’s subconscious mind also downloads beliefs relating to self. When a parent tells a young child it is stupid, undeserving or any other negative trait, this too is downloaded as a fact into the youngsters subconscious mind. These acquired beliefs constitute the central voice that controls the fate of the body’s cellular community.
While the conscious mind may hold ones self in high regard, the more powerful unconscious mind may simultaneously engage in self-destructive behavior.
The insidious part of the autopilot mechanism is that subconscious behaviors are programmed to engage without the control of, or the observation by, the conscious self. Since most of our behaviors are under the control of the subconscious mind, we rarely observe them or much less know that they are even engaged. While your conscious mind perceives you are a good driver, the unconscious mind that has its hands on the wheel most of the time, may be driving you down the road to ruin.
We have been led to believe that by using will power, we can override the negative programs of our subconscious mind. Unfortunately, to do that, you really have to emphasize the word power, for one must keep a constant vigil on ones own behavior. The moment you lapse in consciousness, the subconscious mind will automatically engage and play its previously recorded experience-based programs.
The subconscious mind is really a tape player. There is no observing entity in the subconscious mind reviewing the behavioral tapes. Consequently, there is no discernment as to whether a subconscious behavioral program is good or bad they are just tapes. The subconscious is strictly a playback machine, perceived stimuli engage preprogrammed behaviors. In fact, people upon seeing their own subconscious programs play out frequently say something like, That guy just pushed my buttons!
In contrast to the power of the conscious mind, the subconscious mind is a million times more powerful an information processor. Also, as neuroscientists emphasize, the conscious mind provides 5% or less of the cognitive activity during the day. Ninety-five to ninety-nine percent of our behavior is directly derived from the subconscious. Hence the use of the word power in the concept of will power, it takes significant effort for the conscious mind to keep tabs on the subconscious behavior.
Positive thinking is primarily effective if the subconscious supports the conscious intention.
The problem with trying to reprogram the subconscious is that we fail to realize it is playing behavioral tapes. To understand why conscious awareness does not readily change subconscious programs, consider this instructive analogy: I provide you with a cassette tape and you put it into your player and push the play button. As the tape plays the program, you realize that you do not like it. So, you yell at the tape player to change the program, you ask it to play something different.
After awhile of not getting a response, you yell louder and get angrier at the tape player because of the lack of a response to your request. Then when it seems hopeless, you beseech God to help you change the program. The point is simple, no matter how much you yell at the tape player it will not change the program. To change a tape, you have to push the record button and then rerecord the program incorporating the desired changes.
There are two ways out of the problem. Firstly, we can become more conscious, and rely less on automated subconscious programs. By being fully conscious, we become the masters of our fates rather than the victims of our programs. This path is similar to Buddhist mindfulness. Secondly, we can use a variety of new energy psychology modalities that enable a rapid and profound reprogramming of limiting subconscious beliefs.
These new energy modalities provide the ability to rewrite limiting perceptions (beliefs) and self-sabotaging behaviors using processes that are mechanistically similar to pushing the record program on the subconscious minds tape player.
With conscious awareness, one can actively transform the character of their lives into ones filled with love, health and prosperity.
2006-2007 Bruce Lipton Ph.D.
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 12:31
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32896-MANIFESTING-IN-THE-MATRIX-its-all-nonsense-part-2
If you're new here please read first as we will this time continue and finish this subject, I hope.
regards
roman
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 13:12
Got this 1 channel EEG to get answers in 2006, you cant get this now, the company is gone
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19929&d=1357305023&thumb=1&stc=1
Will do a video on this, you will see why............
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 14:20
Removed the diagram possible copyright infringement, those that were interested got it.
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 20:12
Before I make the video to explain what one can see happening to ones stance on the electronics shown, which is important to understand. I would like you to watch this video that is already here being shown by others, but is very important to understands the different realities of the two hemispheres of the brain, because to use the electronics to read stress and resistance to what ever you are reacting too is a connection to the CEO management of your subconscious, is read from your right hemisphere, listen carefully as she describes the difference between the left and the right. I know most of us by now have seen this, it is one of the best distinguishes of our reality yet. I will try to have the whole explanation and the benefit to us as our potential on the video by tomorrow, I think you will find it interesting and exposing.
Regards to all
roman
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Arrowwind
4th January 2013, 21:20
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I brought this up just to show you an example as your state of realization at birth was Zero, if you choose to think that you arrived with a Karma or Sin, you will hang yourself by that belief.
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Im not sure that I fully understand your post. You say that at birth we are zero and what comes after that is indoctrination in one direction or another. pride vs humility - greed vs chairty etc.
I asked you if you have children because in my experience with childen I do not see zero when they are born.
I have worked with many children as a pediatric nurse, starting from the very second that they are born with my work as a midwife also, and then in the early months.
I have seen a wide variety of "personality" at time of birth that plays out over time.
I have seen stubborness, anger, fear, peace. open heart, retraction, in the newborns I have been with since their very first breath.
In my own children I have seen their personality develop from the first breath.
One son was born stubborn and angry. He was angry the first time I held him. He was stubborn and refused to eat for the first 3 years of life, existing on next to nothing. Refusing to be breast fed or to take a bottle when under a year old. He evolved out of much of his anger but it seemed that out of his inner core came a profound sense of justice. Before the age of two we had thought that perhaps he would grow up to be a lawyer and then a judge for he was determined to set the world on the scales of justice.
The other son was born with open heart. His expression was love and peace from the first breath. He was tender and responsive to love.
By 6 months old or so, as soon as he could sit up in a highchair, he would draw people to him. We could go to a resturant and he would draw crowds. Once on a bus in Hawaii he was taken from me and passed from passenger to passenger to get cuddled and appreciated for his ability to radiate love and laughter.
I feel that babies, when they come into this world are not a blank slate. They carry with them not only all the potenial that our reality can provide but also all that they they have aleady learned and mastered in previous lives.
If you look at babies carefully, if you open your eyes to see and to not project they will show you who they are.
To this day son #2 is still preoccupied with justice and son #2 has more friends than people I have known in my whole life. When he was down and out last week from a skiing accident there was a steady trail of people coming to see him for the 7 days that we visited. It was clear that he did not really need help from his mother with the injuries... he had more people than he new what to do with. People give freely to him because of his compassion and love that he has had from the beginning.
These are the lernings that travel with us. They are different for everyone... of course there are negative learnings also.. for instance my loving son is also quite lazy and will put off everything till the last second. My son obcessed with justice is can weild the sword of justice easily in a number of directions as he sees justice as not a fixed point but a multifaceted expression.
So where did these knowning that they were born with, that I saw from the beginning come from. I certainly didnt teach this stuff to kids under one year old.
I just thought that if you really observed babies up to and under one year old you would see that they are so much more that what we think we are teaching them. They come in with thier own agenda, their on mission that is expressed early on. How parents respond to all of that can shape and mold the outcome of their lives... for instance if I had been mean and abusive with son#2 for his stubbornness and anger then that would have been reinforced and he would never have found his way out of it and his sense of justice could have developed into a vengful nature. If I tried to usurp his sense of justice and tried to turn the world into an unjust reality resulting from a power struggle between parent and child he likely would have angered at me and all around him. Instead we tried to show him the different ways justice can play out.. but we really couldn't hardly do that till he got around 5 or 6.. when the intellect had developed enough.
Your family is beautiful. I think that you are perhaps a lucky man.
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after writing this Im not sure its really relevant to the topic for Im not sure exactly what you are saying.. be that as it may.
ROMANWKT
4th January 2013, 21:54
Hi Arrowwind
You see by the way you described your relationship and understanding towards your children, I knew you were a lovely lady, and by your other posts that I had read.
Yes your point is extremely valid and absolutely true, as I have seen this myself, and had noticed it always.
It had always amazed me how individual a baby going on to a child can be with traits already showing, but as these trait being brought back from our previous life is still a very debatable matter.
How parents respond to all of that can shape and mold the outcome of their lives... for instance if I had been mean and abusive with son#2 for his stubbornness and anger then that would have been reinforced and he would never have found his way out of it and his sense of justice could have developed into a vengeful nature. If I tried to usurp his sense of justice and tried to turn the world into an unjust reality resulting from a power struggle between parent and child he likely would have angered at me and all around him. Instead we tried to show him the different ways justice can play out.. but we really couldn't hardly do that till he got around 5 or 6.. when the intellect had developed enough.
I believe that you had answered this yourself, for you saw the difference and you allowed this to come to fruition, most would and do try to standardize the child from parent to schools to working acceptance. Children allowed to enter understanding with their traits before recommendation for more acceptable behavior do much better than the forced early changes that leave a mark within that can effect their adulthood later in life.
Thank you for that Arrowwind, we will go deeper into this I hope when I had finished all the other thing that I want to introduce which hopefully will make more understanding.
Warmest regards to you Arrowwwind, and thank you for your kind gesture
roman
Arrowwind
5th January 2013, 18:08
It had always amazed me how individual a baby going on to a child can be with traits already showing, but as these trait being brought back from our previous life is still a very debatable matter.
Thank you for your kind words.
This is the crux of the matter in such a conversation. This is debatable for you and many but not for me for I have crossed the line from wonderment to full knowing. I can not give this knowledge to anyone. They must develop this trail of discovery themselves and when they get upon the right path of revelation they will know also. Unfortuanately there are many paths that lead to a dead end, that is, no answer, or a path that culminates with the dogmas of false teachers. All I can say is that to find the answer I asked for the answer and I was given the answer though my life experience. There really is no other way to get to the root of the matter for knowledge at this level is not found in a book or university and not even in a religion. I suspect it came from my own alignment with source, or perhaps I was due the answer for reasons that I have not yet determined.
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 01:28
Well here we go again, cant get the bloody hardware to work on a 64bit win7, the hardware is uncertified and will not load in the driver, originally used on 32bit winXP forced driver, have to find an old model to run it after 6 years collecting dust.. there are no upgrades as the company is gone.
The only reason I wanted you to see the algorithmic controlled level by the right hemisphere frontal lobe, was to see the required action to release resistance.
Behind the scene I have been advised not to continue on this line of questioning, and its holding me back, the fear is of misuse of this information which most in this field know already, and possible damage done and repercussions for earthly and spiritual matters, I am hesitant, but feel compelled to explain myself first.
This playing field called Earth, for the development of the future godlike entities is an Illusion that is mind based, you, the body, are an Illusion also mind based.
Until you understand that fact, you will be caught in a delusional existence for eternity, just like myself writing about it here which is an Illusion created by me, the delusion being that we think/mind that this is real and our reality.
I am here talking with the written word to mind entities, who are having an illusionary experience portrayed as life, it has to be this way as a body with a life-force/spirit can only advance and make the necessary changes here in body/spirit on this playing field to elevate/breakaway from the cycle and move on.
For for thousands upon thousand of years, many civilisation before us existed and disappeared, never forgetting that these civilization on this illusionary playing field were also entities that had left there mark in our illusional world, these are marks that we really do not understand totally, but in the scheme of things it does not matter as these are leftover manifestations on this playing field that do not interfere in ones path, or so they should not do, unless we get hooked to the Illusion.
And hooked we are, we study the Ancient writing looking for directions, we study the Egyptian and their customs and pyramid with great interest, we study the ancient astrology, sky and our universe as there are cycles in the illusional space that effect the playing field of our reality, and create fear for our illusionary life.
Many thousands of years ago, somewhere on this playing field, a group decided to abandon the path and accumulate manifestation as a worthy cause, rather than following the path, they built themselves palaces and divided the playing field between themselves at the expense of other entities, and beat these entities to slavery, slaves born out of slaves breeds ignorance and arrogance about their very nature and die as unfulfilled morons.
These days we don’t have to be beaten into slavery, we are mostly all willing partners in the accumulation of manifested products, as long as it has a label, you cant go wrong, we will work and slave and bend over backwards to get the controlled highly priced junk that will sustain zero life when all is said and done, its all mostly junk, but its worth living for, what else is there in life.
Now let go back in time again, a thousands years, even a few hundred years, and people lived in small and large communities all around the playing field all over the globe, they managed to hold on to the elders teaching that were passed on to their youth, they mostly always had elders who kept check on the mind of the community as wrong thinking within the community lead to social problems in manifesting and local climatic turmoil, as the elders who understood the illusion of their reality, always directed the community to support the right thoughts and customs which brought in balanced climate, and successful harvests.
Healing was an understood part of dis-eased energy, we had better give these elders a name that all communities had if they wished to survive the elements in the playing fields, as always one was chosen as the Shamans, as the guide directing the minds of the entities for the betterment and survival as a consensus for the whole community.
More land were stolen from the entities, and these people had to pay to live in most places by giving a share to the parasitic entities that would build themselves more palaces and create more slaves, this parasitic order had plagued the whole planet with false religions and knowledge, where disorder and wrong thinking was replaced by mind of the parasite, thousand and upon thousand of entities eventually perished not realising why, shamans were removed or murdered by the church, and then eventually the whole community had collapsed, and most disappeared.
The parasites now own it all, they dictate your education, your beliefs, and your prosperity as in any town or community, if you are not a member of the parasite order, or you refuse to participate with this order, your prosperity will be cut short, everything will be controlled by these parasites including the real knowledge of who and what you are and what power as a individual entity you posses. Your identity as a entity will be hidden from you for their vision of a illusional world that they wish to control for their parasitic enslavement of all of us entities for their new world order.
Top doctrines state that it does not matter what the state of the world is, its just an illusion and everything is in order, its what you do that counts, all is well, we are not here to repair damage or to help other entities unnecessarily or to interfere in the scheme of thing for all it as it should be, it is up to each entity to work this out for themselves as a learning curve or together as one consciousness to be the consensus, if changes are to be made, that’s the lesson.
OK I can see the point being made here and the lesson for each individual entity to come and overcome the illusion through hardship and suffering, and the parasites being called a positive catalyst for the advancement by making things hard, not easy to speed elevation of billions of entities here in the illusional playing field, but these are not playing fields any more, the whole globe has become a killing field for thousands of years under these parasites, they have poisoned the air that we breathe, poisoned the water that we drink, poisoned the food that we eat, destroyed weather for for harvesting, destroying adults and children with drugs and chemicals, destroying land and forest, and the very earth that we reside on to process for elevation.
Now that really pisses me off, and I don’t give a F-CK what the Dia lama thinks, or the Nazi Pope thinks or some Rabbi thinks, or a Imam thinks, they are at this moment full of sh-t, they are liars and sterile to the fact of this illusion, and the cowardice towards being heads of the beliefs of billion of entities here on this plane to the parasites. They are the holder of the true understanding of the knowledge and power of each individual conscious entity on this plane, but choose to keep secrets from humanity that they fear will destroy the matrix by unscrupulous people, well guess what, you could of not done a better yourselves, its screwed, because you all kept the people dumb to their rightful power and knowledge with lies, and as you all shall see, there is a very heavy price for being dicks.
To be continued
roman
AwakeInADream
7th January 2013, 04:54
Great Thread Roman!:)
Is there a particular practice that you would recommend that would enable us to be liberated from this illusion?
My user name has a double meaning BTW, since I have been aware for a long time that this waking state is really a dream also,
if only I could wake up from it...
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 07:29
Great Thread Roman!:)
Is there a particular practice that you would recommend that would enable us to be liberated from this illusion?
My user name has a double meaning BTW, since I have been aware for a long time that this waking state is really a dream also,
if only I could wake up from it...
Hi AwakeInADream
Not being funny there, but I did not realize I was offering any practice, I am just thinking aloud, and its just an opinion, my opinion, which in the scheme of things is worth nothing, for I am a nothing and a nobody, and I shall stay that way. You have 3 religions mentioned here that push a belief that there is some god outside of themselves in control of their human destiny, and you have one that pushes self reliance on attaining liberation as you put it AwakeInADream, you have two belief here that separate their genders, and one will cripple you or kill you if a mistake according to them has been perpetrated, you have one here who belief they are the chosen ones above all humanity, and whatever they do, its gods will, you have one here who is the biggest hoarder of riches in gold and BS which push their lambs down a sink hole, and you have one here that are the holders of the truths but fear repercussion for themselves and future entities.
All I ever talk about is understanding, as best we can, I offer no practice.
regards to you AwakeInADream
roman
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 09:59
If there is a secret knowledge that you may think that I have, then you are making a mistake, its just a understanding that I have already mentioned in http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1 which I wish to elaborate on here.
In the start of this thread I show a symbol of the yin/yang it stands for duality in all thing, I show you that the stance is always in the middle of the symbol and you choose your stance within it, I also said that you are all of it, or you choose the negative or positive within it, there is your duality of any given trait/character/belief/view/there is your opposition, there lies your resistance, as long as you think that there is a duality, you shall be in opposition and in resistance for the rest of your life here in this plane, stand outside of the symbol looking at it, its just all things as one, there is no separation other than what your mind has imposed on itself and of course by your indoctrination.
Your belief will act as a springboard to your potential, or as a block with opposition to stagnation.
I would like you to really think about this little story I am about to tell you, between a Master and his Student, because it says it all.
A Master and his Student were living together in the forest outside the Monastery
They were both laying on their backs doing sky gazing practice
The Master asked the Student “Did you say you haven't seen the nature of your mind”?
The Student said “that’s right, I haven’t”
After a little while the Master said “do you see the stars in the sky?
“yes” answered the Student
After a little while the Master said “do you hear the dogs barking at the Monastery”
“yes” answered the Student
After a little while the Master said “do you understand our conversation”?
“yes”
Whereupon the Master said “Well, that is your mind's nature, there is nothing else”
This is what is feared, for once the self believed the enlightening truth, all power of manifestation would be variable to that entity here on this plane, the realization of a great truth, which in the wrong hands could create untold havoc in the Matrix.
All doctrine are suppose to lead the entity to this very moment of realization, it takes years of manipulation of a persons psyche to achieve this bang on the head realization that will free that entity from the cycle.
Now with most of us here, there isn’t the slightest chance of ever happening, because of our beliefs and indoctrination, that why it could take as they say, not me, that it could take many life times to attain that understanding with full realization impact necessary to free ones full potential on this plane.
That is the reason why one has to study, mostly nonsense for a lifetime to turn you around to that realization.
Well here it is, the Secret and has it turned you around, that all is mind and mind is all there is. Have you flipped yet, the answer to this is no, otherwise most of you would not be here.
To be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 11:42
We are all within our comfort zone, we are so sold on all the material comfort in our lives, as we cant live without an i-phone or a i-pad crap mentality that the whole world has lost its identity as entities that will soon depart the illusion having achieved nothing but gaining all the creature comforts while buried deep in materialism, thinking this is all there is, just hoarding and consuming.
We spend our whole lives with the notion of achieving financial freedom, where we can do whatever we want, and to enjoy ourselves before old age catch us up, and death overtakes us. So we spend our valuable youth in school learning garbage so that we can have the best jobs that pay us the biggest amount of fiat toilet paper, so we can use the poor and unsuccessful to our full advantage as servant to our very whim and desires.
We have committed ourselves to purchase a house at a young age, where we need to live and bring up a family, you buy a house and hock yourself up for 25 to 30 years of your life for brick and mortar, never really owning anything anyway. You can only borrow the use of thing here and the let it go, for all the distraction and hard work that has consumed your life here in this plain. We all believe that we have achieved something of great value, but realize to late of the reality at your deathbed of what one has done, but to late.
The system consumes you and you consume the system, its value to you is false, just hype that we are all sold on, you can walk with a straight and judgmental face in town, looking down and criticize the human mess that plague you with constant begging of the have nots. You live in fear of loosing all that you have sacrificed and worked for, that fear becomes reality for many people around the world, and it shatters them to the point of taking their own live and the lives of their family as they are destitute, and everybody is wearing blinkers.
Million of people dying around the globe due to internal struggle of power and domination of outside forces, as always the poor will suffer an untimely death that most do not give a dam, as long as its far away from our false reality. Religious charities pretending to assist the poor where they have only their agendas to fulfil, World government pushing agendas that destroy peoples lives and countries that they live in, and the whole planet is in turmoil, yet all truth of what they are and why they are here, had been lost for thousands of years.
Religious leaders proclaiming peace and crocodile love to all humanity, as their countries are being ravaged by outsider and as they themselves are part of the ravages of other countries, hypocrisy unlimited. All gods work it good work that we are all sold on with fake news and controlled media that we are also sold on, as long as it sounds right, of course doing the right thing, its all OK. 2012 has passed and the Alien issue is the next world wide illusionary push, always something to keep your mind and emotion from realizing the nonsense that we are all plagued with on a daily basis, we have to stop and seriously think.
Financial collapse is signaled as defiantly is on it way, designed agendas for the removal of cannon fodder (humanity) as the parasites have achieved their goal with the demented help from us all, they now do not need the excess and with all the poison and destruction we see the endgame is fast approaching. Any unexpected move by the parasites will cost million and possibly billion of lives, without blinking an eye. Greed and apathy has become the new god of the people, as long as I am alight and survive, to hell with anybody else, I and my family matters, the rest can go to hell, we are all going that direction even here on Avalon, we are forgetting who and what we are, or we have forgotten.
To be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 13:09
So where does this leave us at this moment in time? They have managed to place themselves in full control of all the resources with our help, we are now in a mind position as them and us, we are in a confrontational position as divided entities, that would then be the biggest mistake and a trap that we all would fall into, there is no them and us, we are all one where others choose to mind/think the opposite way than ourselves, that’s all. They share all of the illusion and consciousness as ourselves.
As powerful consensus as they are at the moment, we are all one, not separate, though we can act separately in this realm, the lives threatening is a illusion, the resources that they hold is an illusion, the fear that they project is an illusion, the power that they hold on all entities is an illusion, the light that will prevail all forces is an illusion, as light and dark is the same illusion, whatever is in the illusion belongs to all, no one can keep anything of the same consciousness away from consciousness, you can hide all that you want, it cannot be hidden for it is all consciousness.
You have to go back and read the Master and the Student again and realise what was stated at the end by the Master “well that is your mind's nature, there is nothing else” it state that there is nothing that has any reality, that everything outside of mind is a creation by mind, that what we see, hear, and understand is nothing but a illusion created and upheld by mind. The whole concept of our existence and our reality is a mental illusion that we delude ourselves as being real, when all reality and existence is but an illusion.
Your whole existence is sustained by your belief, you operate in this illusion by belief, you achieve all your needs by belief, all positive results on this plane are manifested here by your belief, all destructive powers are sustained by belief, its all belief, the opposition that we fear is just a belief, the fear that we have of them having power over us is just a belief, the confrontation is just a belief that we allow them, it has no existence other than in mind. So yes its real to all of us because we believe.
To be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 14:59
Some of you may think that I am more than heavy on the so called spiritual leaders, you have every right to think that, and I have no objection to that whatsoever, the parasites have been in existence for far longer than most of the doctrines, but they succumbed to the brotherhood control to exist as a doctrine, they had had over 2 thousand years to rebalance the human consensus on this planet, and here we go again, more destruction as ordered by the brotherhood as before the previous climatic changes came, after 2 thousand years, they failed on their watch.
So what to do, because it may be already to late to take action of any kind that can swing the consensus around. We the entities have enormous power here in the playing fields, that power resides in us, unknown to majority of the entities here on this planet, and if they suddenly found out and realized that yes they can see it now and are ready to move the imbalance, they would find themselves totally sterile, this sterility comes from dis-informative indoctrination of the masses.
Your whole personal power structure stems from your beliefs, the disinformation that we have had impressed on us is a powerful block in the subconscious, that once a deep seated belief has been established in the subconscious be it right or wrong, it is almost impossible to remove it, or to make changes to that particular belief. Now maybe you see why I have always had a very negative view of indoctrination, and the damage that it has done to humanity, who knows what crap they had put inside the people all over the world, if it does not empower the people, then its falsely given to empower the control structure. So if a belief that you have about something that empowers would be a belief that you would hold on to, but a belief that would dis-empower you, would be classed as a block, for nothing is impossible in an illusion, only your belief in its impossibility would make it so, and that would be a block.
What was found though, was that the binder of a deep seated belief was emotionally charged, so the deeper the positive or negative belief one had, they also had with it a stronger emotion to bind and keep it there, now that is a very positive find, which can open possibilities for removing negative beliefs, by removing the emotional charge/binder behind it.
To be continued
roman
AwakeInADream
7th January 2013, 18:17
You don't seem to hold much hope for humanity at large.
Is it not possible that if enough people use their awareness and unplug themselves from the system(Neo style) that this may act as a catalyst that would quickly spread around the world.
Not in terms of a cult or movement, but more like something useful that everyone will want to use, like a tin opener.(a poor materialist metaphor I know)
Do you think that the parasite's power and protection is too great to allow a mass awakening?
(They do seem to have a knack for nipping truth in the bud)
ROMANWKT
7th January 2013, 20:54
You don't seem to hold much hope for humanity at large.
Is it not possible that if enough people use their awareness and unplug themselves from the system(Neo style) that this may act as a catalyst that would quickly spread around the world.
Not in terms of a cult or movement, but more like something useful that everyone will want to use, like a tin opener.(a poor materialist metaphor I know)
Do you think that the parasite's power and protection is too great to allow a mass awakening?
(They do seem to have a knack for nipping truth in the bud)
Hi again AwakeInADream
Well done my friend, yes its sort of tin opener, if done right, its your survival kit.
Regards to you AwakeInADream
roman
lookbeyond
8th January 2013, 03:36
Hello Roman, for those of us who may not be able to make use of the survival kit this time, in your opinion is there a next time or at least an afterlife?
Kind Reguards lookbeyond
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 08:44
Hello Roman, for those of us who may not be able to make use of the survival kit this time, in your opinion is there a next time or at least an afterlife?
Kind Reguards lookbeyond
Hi Lookbeyond hope all is well for you,
Firstly I am not a holder of such knowledge, secondly I am still here in this existence, all the doctrines state that there is a cycle that an entity goes through to remove themselves form it, no dead person has ever returned to state the fact that the is a existence outside of mind, when people use the words logical and common sense in these matters, that's when I turn around and run, all phenomena being the working of mind, like the things that I am proposing here on this thread, or OBE as being proposed by other people as proof of a existence outside of mind would be a false assumption as all that I deal with is of mind, and all the OBE phenomena is of mind, so where does a person stand in the scheme of things, whatever is done in this existence is of mind, therefore it can not prove anything other than that is all a creation of mind.
So here is the conundrum, we all talk about the illusion created by mind, something has to have a mind to have a use of a mind to project/create the illusion, something has to be there to control a mind into creation, something has to be there to step back from the use of a mind, that something I cannot describe to you, because as soon as I step back from mind, its blank, many people get the same, many say there is that something that upholds the mind to create its self here into this existence, we the entities keep reappearing into this existence, and doctrines say that we can break the cycle of that reappearing, there is still something behind the scenes that allows one to reappear, it allow you to have mind and exist, so the unknown something is responsible for you having the use of mind to create your very existence, to re-create yourself.
That something is an intelligence behind the intelligence that is the intelligence behind all phenomena, that something is making me use my mind to derive an answer which has to be false, for mind is the creator of answers, I would be a liar if I had said no there is nothing, and there again I would be a liar if I said yes there is something, but for me to come from somewhere to exist here even though I am just a mental state of existence does swing the argument that there defiantly is a something, created or not, behind a veil that is again is an illusion, as again it seems to direct me in to self existence that we create this something that give us the capacity to create a mind that creates existence, it does therefore feel as a cycle, a continuous cycle of mind creating mind creating mind and so on, that may be the cycle that we are all here to working to escape, so life after death is possibly a mental cycle that we need to break away from, caught in a loop as they say, its neither life nor death, nor existence, just a loop that we recreate to infinity, therefore breaking the loop frees that energy out of existence.
Confused, well join the club Lookbeyond, it only $100 dollars a month, hehehe
regards as always
roman
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 13:42
So, by understanding that a belief is tied up with an emotion does give us a indication that we can utilize for the removal of that glue (emotion) would in fact make the removal of that belief a viable possibility.
Belief is a locked-in permission of an intention that can keep on repeating itself until death, it will attain a automatic status within your mind/psyche that you can believe/permit yourself to all of life’s wonders and realize yourself to full potential in this illusion, or you can simply believe/permit yourself to death and extinction at least this time around.
You can permit yourself to live or to die, nothing happens to you without permission granted by you, you are the creator within your realm here and everything that is happening in your life has been granted a permit by you to be created into your experience in your minds field, that’s what a belief is, its your stamp of approval for an intended creation. Be and leave, Be and live, Be and life.
The stronger you be-life, the sooner it manifests in your illusion, the weaker indecisive be-live from you, may never manifest because your permission is not strong enough, that’s your safety valve, some days you just want to die, and some days you just want to live as an example, you will not be taken literally by your mind to create the scenario, unless it gets a strong permission from you. You all better think twice with what nonsense you allow in your life, because your mind the creator will one day take you up on it, Seriously.
Many repetitive things are happening in people lives and there is nothing that one thinks can be done, repetitive lack of abundance, which was a natural state within, love, which was a natural state within, happiness, which was a natural state within, these are some of the example where people had these things naturally as we were all born pro-life as all nature is as standard, then somewhere in one life, we gave the permission to change these things in our life, and now we do not know why and how to revert back to the realized state that we were born in.
To be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 15:25
Now this is a very important understanding that has to do with resistance towards ones intention, it is the most important concept to understand as ones resistance to any intention, and mostly stems from these actions from within your own psyche, that is Attachment and Aversion, there are also three other resistors which are Approval, Control, Safety, that we shall go into as we move on.
Attachment and Aversion are the push and the pull of all things mental and physical, we have to understand that the effect works in reverse, as Action and Reaction, and as Attraction and Repulsion, that’s why most people don’t understand it. Whenever you have an Aversion to something (pushing away) you attract, and whenever you have an Attachment to something (grasping holding) you repel, this is very important to understand.
The subconscious sees an Attachment as your action to needing and wanting, it sees that as your focus, as not having and pulling, therefore the reaction to pulling is to push away, it will create the state of not having it in your life.
Mentally, Attachment repels.
The subconscious sees an Aversion as your action as repelling and pushing away, it sees that as your focus, therefore the reaction to pushing away is pulling it in, it will create the state of having it in your life.
Mentally, Aversion attracts
to be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 18:26
The mind has an understanding that we possibly do not comprehend, it has an understanding of the true nature of all creation that seem to be hidden from us until we test it, then we see it as the truth from within Ourselves, of Creation, and all that Exists.
I have put this out again, hopefully better reworded and better understood, there is a great imbalance in this world and resources though they are not short, as this world has never been short of anything, but shortages have been created by the controller of this world, like I had said before, you cannot hide anything in this one consciousness, even artificial shortages.
Our whole existence is based on and in a illusion, If only we could grasp that fact so deeply within ourselves, that balance would return to this plane as fast as a plague. All such knowledge as this for instance has been hidden from the westerner for a very long time, that it almost sound as if one is dabbling in witchcraft, as oppose to be a natural state of events to just ask, and it shall be given. There is nothing spooky about this as long as it understood from where you are coming from.
You all have this capacity to achieve, be, and do anything that your heart has ever desired, the danger is burning oneself in material object that really has nothing at all to do with living and enjoying life, you have the power to overcome any diversity on this plane, as long as ones greed does not overcome ones real reality, which is elevating one self as a total human being, not only the accepted bits, but ones full potential as an mind/body/spirit. That capacity exist within us all, all one has to do is to clear the path to oneself and allow/believe for your masked creator to reveal the secrets of the universe to you.
To be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 19:44
We were born already realized, we were born with a direct clear path to ourselves, we were born with all faculties waiting to be connected, we were fully potentially realized beings. We were fed the wrong information from the start which cluttered and darkened the path to ourselves, we were directed to external power outside ourselves that had the result of causing spiritual sterility within in an illusionary environment. We were made to believe that we the human race had to sweat and toil for the rest of their lives to survive or die, we were told that we have to work hard to achieve what we wanted for yourself and your family, WE WERE LIED TO for thousands of years from cradle to grave.
Anything that’s made from energy, then that must mean everything, because everything is energy, is yours to attract to yourself while sitting in your armchair, it had always been so, anything outside of what I had said to you this very moment IS A LIE, told for thousands of years by the controlling factors on this plane, and by some doctrines who are the controlling factor at play at the moment. The only word that came to me when I had found the truth of this was, “what PARASITES.”
To be continued
roman
AwakeInADream
8th January 2013, 20:22
Hi Roman!:)
I much appreciate your insights, there are a few threads going along this same theme lately, but your style of communication is really helping to clarify things for me, so I'm so glad you came back after your brief un-subscription. This is one of those valuable threads I am going to save and store offline. I'm seeing the 'hope' now.
I'm just wondering, do you make a distinction between Soul and Mind?
I mean there are many levels of mind operating on the planet at this time, and some of them aren't very useful and suffer from illusion/delusion, but the highest most truthful level of mind I tend to think of more as Soul/Spirit. So total awareness and 'liberation' would be akin to 'Soul Realization', but without the Dogma that goes with such terms. Whether this sort of 'liberation' would entail a release from the wheel of death and re-birth is just something we will have to wait and see, as is life after death as you said earlier.
Another interesting question, in your opinion where is mind? Is it in the body?
Surely it isn't within that soggy matter we have between our ears. Is it?
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 21:09
Hi AwakeInADream
Well, that a load of questions, first I must remind you that I follow no doctrine or practice, many of you question belong to people within a doctrine who invented all these distinctions as soul, angel, spirit and holy ghosts and virgin Marys, for people who believe in a god, go to a lovely lady ARROWWIND, and for rebirth you should go for Tony pieneal and another Bob as they are in reality teacher and monk who don't like to admit it,
I deal only in mind as all is mind and mind is all, and so it your body part of that mind as you created yourself, all and yourself is part of the illusion, though it does not feel like sometimes. there is no distinction to me about the body and mind, I inject spirit in places so people understand better in their line of what they had been thought. there will be people who will label me as suffering from illusions to delusions, All I can say is I did my home work and give you all for nothing the most valuable present for anybody stuck here in this cycle. fools are the ones that reject what they don't understand, to answer all of the question in one go, ALL IS MIND. AND ALL IS AN ILLUSION.
Warmest Regards to you AwakeInADream and thank you for you kind comments
roman
CD7
8th January 2013, 22:10
Attachment and Aversion are the push and the pull of all things mental and physical, we have to understand that the effect works in reverse, as Action and Reaction, and as Attraction and Repulsion, that’s why most people don’t understand it. Whenever you have an Aversion to something (pushing away) you attract, and whenever you have an Attachment to something (grasping holding) you repel, this is very important to understand.
Well thts quite a pickle we find ourselves in :eyebrows:....why do u suppose it is this way? In opposition...oppōnere (“to set against”). Why r we going "against" anything? Who set this up? --made the rule? I would love to envision a place where things flowed like diamond butter and such opposition were not the experience of our world...
However in a different vein, i find visualizing/creating in my mind eye eventually cultivates/materializes the "thought form" i seem to have focused on...
In example as an artist i create the "idea" in my mind first, thinking on it for days sometimes weeks, and in most cases, satisfied with the "thing" working out like i had envisioned/planned---sometimes better!
SO in saying this....attachment and aversion are somewht separate from creating something? In other words different rules apply?-- im somewht attached to the "idea" and it does not repel it grows? im trying to word this best i can--
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 22:19
Here is the most important distinction from all the things that all of you had ever learnt, and that is, that absolutely nothing was added or twisted in what had been said here, and most of all you will be asked to remove most of your indoctrination to clears a pathway back to you very self. The action required by you is to remove the obstacles that had hindered you for all of your life, emotions that had plagued you, health issues that had plagued you, material issues that had plagued you, family issues that had plagued you, work and employment issues that had plagued you, in reality, just about everything that you can and cant think of, for it all stem from the same source.
We are all damaged goods, we have all been indoctrinated with garbage and dis-info for most of our lives, for some of you that are young many of these obstacles are still not to far of the surface so removing them may not take to long, and as for people of my age that have deep seated garbage still within ones body that we had forgotten about, but still raises its head at some moment and disappears back down into the depth, it can take a much longer time.
The good thing is, as one starts to eventually lower the emotional load of trapped emotion, things begin to get lighter and potential of different varieties start to show themselves. For example, you may start to listen to your phone before it had rung, you may even know who it is before you pick it up, you may even know how many people are in that persons house who rang you, you may even know who these people are. You may reach out for your coffee and the mug slide to you, your health starts to improve, many thing as you clear the road to yourself will start popping up, it could be all the hidden potential of a human being that after 500,000 years in this illusion, we still don’t know what we are and what we can do. Everyone has different obstacle, it all starts to come in its own time.
To be continued
roman
ROMANWKT
8th January 2013, 22:40
Attachment and Aversion are the push and the pull of all things mental and physical, we have to understand that the effect works in reverse, as Action and Reaction, and as Attraction and Repulsion, that’s why most people don’t understand it. Whenever you have an Aversion to something (pushing away) you attract, and whenever you have an Attachment to something (grasping holding) you repel, this is very important to understand.
Well thts quite a pickle we find ourselves in :eyebrows:....why do u suppose it is this way? In opposition...oppōnere (“to set against”). Why r we going "against" anything? Who set this up? --made the rule? I would love to envision a place where things flowed like diamond butter and such opposition were not the experience of our world...
However in a different vein, i find visualizing/creating in my mind eye eventually cultivates/materializes the "thought form" i seem to have focused on...
In example as an artist i create the "idea" in my mind first, thinking on it for days sometimes weeks, and in most cases, satisfied with the "thing" working out like i had envisioned/planned---sometimes better!
SO in saying this....attachment and aversion are somewht separate from creating something? In other words different rules apply?-- im somewht attached to the "idea" and it does not repel it grows? im trying to word this best i can--
Hi christinedream7
It not a rule as such it a mind thing, if you looked for inspiration within with a grasping attitude to be the best and the finest painter in the world and you apply that pressure on your self, you will fail, if you visualize as you said in relaxed ways with and attitude of com si com sa you will get the most beautiful inspirational work, that the difference.
It work in every detail of your life, your grasping in life will be fruitless and your pushing of what you don't want in life will make matters worse. how can you want something so bad when its just an illusion, its not real, that why the mind will respond to your grasping and pushing with a negative result. how can you need or want if its already your in your consciousness, just ask and believe, its yours, don't fight
Regards to you christinedream7 hope it made sense, ask again
roman
CD7
9th January 2013, 05:20
Regards to you christinedream7 hope it made sense, ask again
Yes thx it did make sense...
The way in which the operation of opposition works in the mind seems a catch 22--which mechanism seems a bit harsh to me (or perhaps our lack of education hinders our abilities)...Like i said-I Want It ALL flowing like DIAMOND BUTTER for everyone, lol---seemless, effortless---no longer in "fight/opposition" mode...
ROMANWKT
9th January 2013, 06:58
Regards to you christinedream7 hope it made sense, ask again
Yes thx it did make sense...
The way in which the operation of opposition works in the mind seems a catch 22--which mechanism seems a bit harsh to me (or perhaps our lack of education hinders our abilities)...Like i said-I Want It ALL flowing like DIAMOND BUTTER for everyone, lol---seemless, effortless---no longer in "fight/opposition" mode...
Hi christinedream7
Within you is an intelligence that has always strives to direct ones understanding toward the real reality, you could call it a personal guide, it will direct you with what is acceptable and what is not, meaning, if you fall for the illusion to be real, it will reject many of your demands on it, the importance of what we do here is a illusion and your psyche knows this, it is us who don't understand the teacher within, aversion is a judgement by you, attachment is holding on to an illusion by you, your inner intelligence knows this, and that's what we all have to wake up to, within inside of your mind, you hold the key to all creation, but we all fall into the trap that what is in front of us is real, when all it is is just an illusional platform called reality created by mind, there is a teacher within all of us.
it may seem like catch 22 but it really is not, as I had said before in other post, your mind will give you anything that you desire, as long as you don't NEED it, or WANT it, because it show that you have not understood that your reality is just an illusion, you can have it all to play with here, but there are no need and want, because its not real, just an illusion, the mind know this for it created this, now we need to understand this.
Thank you and Regards to you christinedream7
roman
ROMANWKT
9th January 2013, 07:38
Now as I had said before, you will be putting absolutely nothing inside you, no rules, no mantras, no hocus pocus nonsense, you will be just removing locked feeling and emotion that have cluttered the path to your very being.
We have a little procedure that has a value of zero, it is not necessary, it a nothing, but it help to establish a line of removal, working with your own psyche, your self within will understand what you are doing and eventually will assist you without this initial routine.
Place your hands on your heart centre/chakra. Now move your fingers down on your rib cage until you start to feel the soft bit of the top of your stomach. Next place you hand half way between the soft bit of your stomach and your centre lower rib cage.
I want you to imagine a door.
Now this door can open like a draw bridge from a castle opening downwards or opening from the bottom upwards, or two doors opening from the centre like a cuckoo clock. You choose it doesn’t matter; all we need is a door that will open at your command. You need to see it there.
Now imagine a smoke that would represent negativity. What colour would you attach to that smoke? Would it be black, white, dirty brown, red, pink, blue? It doesn’t matter. It just has to be picked by you, whatever represents negativity to you.
Find yourself a comfortable place to relax and make sure you are alone at first. When I said at the beginning, I meant as from when you were a baby or from the earliest age that you remember.
I want you to relive your whole life from then to now, step by step. The whole process here is to check your emotions and to FORGIVE.
Forgive and understand the child within that has accepted many false teachings as it grew up, then go with the relations, your mother, your father, your sister and your brother, your grandmother and your grandfather, your uncles and your aunts.
As you go through the family first, check any emotions that arise. If there is something there, allow it to come up whatever it is and open the door in the area in the middle of your rib cage and stomach. Then allow this feeling and/or emotion to flow out of this door like a smoke of the colour that you have chosen. You can help the smoke to leave your body with your breath by pursing your lips as to blow a candle, but blowing gently assisting the smoke to leave you with a trail a few feet long gently leaving through your door.
If the emotion is strong keep doing it until there is no strength left. It’s probably deep and you should return to that emotion often until that emotion does not raise itself again. Many people cry and that helps to remove it. Always release all emotions, that’s the whole idea of bringing them up.
Bring them up and get rid of them by using the door and the smoke. You are telling your psyche to get rid of it out of your system.
You don’t forgive and forget. You forgive and get rid of it by releasing, that’s the object of the whole thing. You do this with everybody and everything. Start with yourself, your family, your friends now and from the past, your boss, your work mates, everybody and everything including all pets and animals.
If you have had a very bad experience with anybody, bring that emotion up, talk to this person and ask them to forgive you. Send them love and see them smiling before you leave them. Always see everybody smile before you leave them.
It doesn’t matter if they are dead, make up with them and forgive. If for any reason you feel that somebody, for whatever reason, would never in a million years forgive you, that’s no problem as long as you have forgiven and apologized and let go of that emotion by releasing it out of the door with the smoke. It is done, you have forgiven yourself.
As you go through all these experiences from the past to the present, you must keep releasing all these emotions through your door with the smoke. Your psyche will accept and understand what you are doing.
This may take some weeks to months. Within 3 month to 1 year you could feel that your on a completely different planet, as positive changes start to appear in your life.
Go through all the events of your life reliving the past that had accumulated a lot of emotions that have left their mark on you somehow. All guilt must be brought up and released until it has no more power left to raise itself. Keep releasing, keep releasing and keep releasing.
All of this has been copied and pasted from the original work but I will be adding more explanation after this post.
Regards to all
roman
ROMANWKT
9th January 2013, 08:29
All of it from start to finish, has only one value, and that’s your understanding of what and who you are and how your mind operates in the illusion that it created.
There are no rules here, other than the rules that you impose on your self.
Attachment and aversion may seem like rules but they are not, they are your minds response to you forgetting that this reality is just an illusion, as there is no life or death, or any given reality that you should take it that seriously, your needs and wants show desperation in a fake construct of mind, yes we have need, and your need are taken care of some way, and you end up living another day, for all the panic you have had in your life, you are still here many years after, live and kicking, so what was the panic then?? think back of the times of panic, bring that emotion up, now gently release it.
When I had said gently, we need to refer back to the push and pull of all thing, if you force that feeling out of your body, then you are creating an act of aversion for that feeling, so when you force push, the result will be pulling it back in.
Any emotion as such does not belong in the body, if you gently allow it to go away from you it will gladly leave you, as it does not belong there, so don’t push or pull, but gently allow it to leave you in the trail of smoke that you created.
We, during the day react to all kinds of things every minute, and we are pushing and pulling all day long, check yourself if its not correct, if you find yourself reacting, then just gently release that feeling, and continue. The more you find your self in check, and release, you will establish a line of thought and understanding that will produce benefit along the way.
Regards
roman
ROMANWKT
9th January 2013, 10:03
Before any of you wish to proceed with manifestation, it would be advisable to clear a path to your being as much as possible, as it will make things far easier and more productive for your efforts.
Just to remind everybody that this is NOT a philosophy or a doctrine of any sorts, its just dealing with you and yourself and nothing else, as mentioned in the original post of this work, when people remove the garbage out of their lives, then you shall see the beauty of humanity in full light, the real humanity.
Regards to all
roman
ROMANWKT
9th January 2013, 13:38
Through you I am going to project a mirror in front of you, above of you, bellow of you, behind of you, and both sides of you.
“what do you mean”
I am going to project myself, your mind, through you with a mirror, in front, back, above, below, and both side of you, no matter where you look my reflection through you, will cover everything that you see and experience.
“How can you do that?”
I can do that because I your mind, had created you and the reflection and experiences that you have are through me, I allow you to see, hear, feel, taste, and smell, there are more as you will come to your full realization of what I am to you, because you are an reflection of me, your mind.
“ I don’t believe that”
Your lack of belief in me will muddy the reflection that I project to you throughout your existence through me, it will restrict your experience of me in your reflection.
“Then how come there are other bodies in my reflection”
These other bodies are of me as an reflection of me as you are.
“How can that be”
There is only one of me, your mind, that the other bodies share in the reflection called the Matrix, they all share me, your mind, as you do, I am understood as consciousness.
“Then how come this other body behaves different from me, if its you, my mind ?”
I allow you full experience within the matrix, and that was this body’s choice to use your mind to experience me, your mind, in a different experience from yours.
So there I am thinking about this, and at the same time picking up a pebble I threw it at my mind reflection, within seconds a brick was flying my way and just missed my head, I then got a sledge hammer and threw it back with such force that it rebounded all over the place. I could only see it as a dark shadow at a distance as it rapidly approached me at such speed that I barely caught the sight of this 30 ton truck flying over my head.
I then changed tactics, and and apologized, and instantly felt something light drop on my head, it was a beautiful flower, with that I sent love and blessings to my minds reflection, immediately a 6' foot wide red lips with a dirty great big tongue attacked me by licking me once from my toes to my head.
Regards to all
roman
ROMANWKT
10th January 2013, 09:35
Our greatest Attachment is life, and our greatest Aversion is death.
Now how does one intermediate between these two.
As stated before in this thread that creation is empathetically pro-life, and a positive, supportive continuum without internal resistance. On the other hand the fear of death is one of the greatest mental concepts that has the highest resistance of all Aversions, now why is that? Why would death create such a powerful resistance within ones psyche, unless it was unnatural to fear death.
Think about it, there is no resistance within for life, but there is a resistance within to resist death??
Lets turn this around and create a fear of life, then we would create the same high resistance as the fear of death.
So the key word here is FEAR, because if we remove the fear of death, there is no resistance, and if we remove the fear of life, there is no resistance either.
The whole system plays with all of us by fear, they know exactly what they are doing, we all fall into this resistive trap, it does great damage to all of us, and keeps any chance of your real potential of ever showing itself, it hold all back, and we need to understand this, and get rid of it in our lives.
Go through the routine with fear, and as all these fearful emotion start coming up, gently allow them to leave you, think of all the circumstance that brings up fear from within and allow it to leave you, some fears are deep, so regularly keep bringing them up, until there is no emotion left behind that mental concept of fear.
Regards
roman
ROMANWKT
10th January 2013, 12:00
I downloaded this a couple of days ago here from an Avalon post, which I don't remember who put it here, but its brilliant info, about gurus and all the rest of the crap,the truth is there, and also about manifesting your desires, though the problems were understood properly, the solution does not better than the one offered here, really a fantastic read and to the point. do try to read it and you will understand all the dirty problems behind the scene with anything to do with spirituality which I had found out for myself many years ago. a great and important read, I am still reading now and its only 70 pages, but covers a lot of ground.
Regards to you, and sorry if it was you who brought this here, but thank you, good stuff we need this here.
roman
19991
CdnSirian
10th January 2013, 15:47
I agree, it's an excellent read.
ROMANWKT
10th January 2013, 17:52
CdnSirian was it you that put this out? or do you know who put this out here, it a very, very important understanding being placed right in front of you, which make you really think about everything you have ever thought, its something that I will not be able to let go off, and has shown me a startling possibility to our existence, though I though I new something about these things, but not to the extent that this person has opened my eyes a bit wider, really, really, please read this. I am still reading very slowly and carefully, so that I can assimilate the info within properly.
If it was you CdnSirian I really thank you from the heart, if it was not, I still thank you, and agree with you wholeheartedly.
My regards to you
roman
Sebastion
10th January 2013, 18:20
I agree Roman, this pdf is an outstanding read but it is even more outstanding to practice. She writes very simply and succinctly, straight to the point! This material is some of the finest information one could come across, for it is the truth as I have found it to be personally, many years ago. What she says works. I am grateful to have read it and now will begin the work of continued reprogramming the subconscious even more deeply.
My profound thanks to the original member who first posted this material!
I downloaded this a couple of days ago here from an Avalon post, which I don't remember who put it here, but its brilliant info, about gurus and all the rest of the crap,the truth is there, and also about manifesting your desires, though the problems were understood properly, the solution does not better than the one offered here, really a fantastic read and to the point. do try to read it and you will understand all the dirty problems behind the scene with anything to do with spirituality which I had found out for myself many years ago. a great and important read, I am still reading now and its only 70 pages, but covers a lot of ground.
Regards to you, and sorry if it was you who brought this here, but thank you, good stuff we need this here.
roman
19991
ROMANWKT
10th January 2013, 21:01
I agree Roman, this pdf is an outstanding read but it is even more outstanding to practice. She writes very simply and succinctly, straight to the point! This material is some of the finest information one could come across, for it is the truth as I have found it to be personally, many years ago. What she says works. I am grateful to have read it and now will begin the work of continued reprogramming the subconscious even more deeply.
My profound thanks to the original member who first posted this material!
I downloaded this a couple of days ago here from an Avalon post, which I don't remember who put it here, but its brilliant info, about gurus and all the rest of the crap,the truth is there, and also about manifesting your desires, though the problems were understood properly, the solution does not better than the one offered here, really a fantastic read and to the point. do try to read it and you will understand all the dirty problems behind the scene with anything to do with spirituality which I had found out for myself many years ago. a great and important read, I am still reading now and its only 70 pages, but covers a lot of ground.
Regards to you, and sorry if it was you who brought this here, but thank you, good stuff we need this here.
roman
19991
Hi Sebastion nice to hear from you,
Yes her insight is very good and she has the experience, I as yet have not finished it and will finish today, I think it important and will put this permanently at the bottom of my post, so anybody can grab it, everybody should read this.
you mention you are about to continue reprogramming, is this hers?, as I said I have not finished, let spread this info around Sebastion.
Regards to you and thank you, take care
roman
ROMANWKT
10th January 2013, 22:46
Hi all
I am just pushing this information in this 70 page book towards you as it carries information that we seek in these pages, it will most defiantly be an eye opener and will assist in information that I am dealing in this thread, that confirms many thing spoken here towards your balanced state and manifesting the life that you want in peace.
20000
Regards as ever
roman
ROMANWKT
11th January 2013, 07:21
Had not finished the book yet, but asking you all to please read this, as from a teacher of 17 years from a TM center, an eye opener.
regards
roman
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=20000&d=1357858313
ROMANWKT
11th January 2013, 20:54
I have now finished the book and I am so impressed and grateful to this lady for letting this information out there, she has completely taken away all the wind from my sails that I don't know what to add at the moment, because she covered such a wide range of truth that I am still assimilating all of this word by word.
I would like to just give you her view on manifest in our realty, which I will just for the moment reprint that chapter here,which is complete to my understanding as a viable method for manifesting.
Blowing the Whistle/ Chapter. 10: Creating Reality from
Thought
This is Chapter 10 in an online book: ‘Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment:
Confessions of a New Age Heretic,’ by Bronte Baxter.
Lots of questions surround any discussion about creating reality (or manifesting desires)
by using what is popularly called The Law of Attraction. What is this philosophy –
something of genuine value or another New Age spiritual detour? Is it selfish and
superficial or actually healing and useful? Can it help the state of the world? Doesn’t it
contradict the Law of Karma? If the Law of Attraction is real, why do affirmations
seldom work? Is there a more effective way to create reality through thought than the
simple advice given in “The Secret” DVD?
Let’s look at al these questions and start with a definition. The Law of Attraction is a law
of nature that says whatever you think, you get: our thoughts determine what happens to
us in the physical outer world called “reality.” Is this valid theory or New Age nonsense?
The theory is a sound one. The Law of Attraction operates at the heart of personal self-
empowerment. It’s also the key to unlocking new possibilities in the universe. As such,
it’s a powerful tool for defeating the New World Order and creating a magnificent world.
To understand why consciously utilizing this law offers so much, we must first
understand the relationship of thoughts to mater, because the Law of Attraction is a
“mind-over-mater” philosophy. So let’s get philosophical for a moment.
Thought creates outer reality for one reason: because thought is consciousness vibrating,
and that’s al physical mater is, too. The difference between thought and mater is only
the level of density. They’re two layers of the same cake. Mater is just a slightly slower
vibration of consciousness.
The analogy of a fan demonstrates the difference in frequency between thought and the
physical world. When a fan moves slowly, you clearly see its distinct blades. They are
unquestionably solid. They block out your view of anything positioned behind them. But
when you turn the fan on high, suddenly the blades become blury. Earlier perceived as
solid, they seem to grow translucent, almost invisible. You can see objects through and
behind the fan, things that before were hidden by the solidity.
Physical reality is like a fan on low-speed. It operates on a slow vibration, which makes it
appear defined and dense. Thought is like a fan on high-speed. The higher frequency
makes this level of reality fluid and invisible to the senses, but it is actually the same
reality as mater, only vibrating faster.
Another analogy is H2O. Ice, water and vapour are the same substance expressing
differently. One expression is solid and dense, another is fluid and without boundaries,
while a third is gaseous and practically invisible. Consciousness, too, has layers or levels:
gross, subtler and subtlest. Thought is a manifestation at a subtle level. Mater is a gross
manifestation of the same thing.
Quantum physics has discovered that mater is not solid, in spite of its appearance being
so. Mater consists of atoms, which are not combinations of particles and wave vibrations
as scientists once believed. It turns out, atoms are pure vibration. So the physical world is
pure vibration, appearing as solid the way fan blades appear solid when they slow down.
If mater is vibration, what is it that’s vibrating? Apparently, emptiness. But because it’s
vibrating, that emptiness must be energy. And because it vibrates in the shape of
organized forms, that emptiness must be intelligent. So intelligent energy is the stuff of
creation, the power that underlies al things that exist. Consciousness is one name for that
intelligent energy, and a subtle movement in consciousness is a thought. Thought results
in changes in mater.
Here is an example, on a gross level, of how thought moves the material world. If I want
a glass of water, I first have the thought to get a drink, then I walk to the sink, fill up a
glass, and sip. The water, the glass, and my body – physical objects made up of atoms –
al three shift and change a bit in response to the thought that I’m thirsty. Every minute of
the day, thoughts shape physical reality. The world is a collection of atoms in various
combinations, al of them pulsing in an intelligent energy field.
Besides moving reality around, thoughts can create reality “from scratch.” An example of
this is inventing something that never has been thought or felt before: a symphony, a
theory, a relationship …
If you consider any object or situation in creation, and think back in reverse to its origins,
everything came together from a series of thoughts. Thoughts are pulsing consciousness,
and mater is a denser, responsive expression of the same thing. Since thoughts and
mater are two levels of one essence, they’re linked. Thought is the creative aspect, and
mater the receptive aspect, of consciousness.
While it’s easy to see how thought moves mater in the case of a thirsty person reaching
for a drink, the way thought moves the world is not always perceivable by the senses. If
you desire a better job, and focus on having that with confident expectation, a better job
will manifest in your life. You won’t see al the mechanics of how this transpires because
so much takes place behind the scenes, like stage hands scurrying about behind the
curtains of an ongoing play.
It isn’t magic when a scene changes in a dramatic production, nor is it accidental. When
the scene we call reality changes, that isn’t magical or accidental either. It happens in
response to the needs and desires of the actors on the stage of life, who directly influence
what the “stage crew” (the dynamic substructure of the universe) is doing.
When you have a desire, that thought sends a pulse through the fabric of creation. Your
desire vibrates the ether, the energetic consciousness, of which everything is made. That
desire draws to you whatever is needed to materialize your thought, because thought is
dynamic and magnetic. Then presto, the wish becomes an experienced reality. This
power of consciousness, to desire and manifest thought into form, is what makes us co-
creators with the Infinite.
Manifestation of thoughts into reality happens automatically, whether we intend it or not.
Contemplate the people you know and how their outer lives reflect their attitudes (which
are the sum of their thoughts). We can either create reality on autopilot, by thinking
random thoughts indiscriminately, or we can elect to be conscious of how we think and
make thought work for us to fulfil our most cherished desires.
But if thought moves and manifests physical reality, why do so many people have poor
results when they try to consciously utilize the Law of Attraction? Why don’t more
people get what they want from affirmations or from telling the universe their desires?
To understand the answer to that, we need to understand the nature of subconscious mind,
because that is what fulfils or fails to fulfil our wishes. Subconscious mind is that deep
level of ourselves where our individual self begins to link up with everything else. It is
like the place beneath the ocean where al the islands touch the ocean floor – as Mathews
Arnold poetically put it, “linking their coral arms beneath the sea.”
One person’s subconscious mind is connected to al other minds in that subterranean
place, and when mind is stirred at that level, it sends a ping through the universe. It
influences creation, because mind is the base or ground state of creation. That’s why
connecting with subconscious mind, and persuading it to accept our desire, is essential to
our wish becoming manifest as reality in the world.
When we have a strong or repetitive thought – especially a thought that’s emotionally
charged – it is always recorded in the subconscious. We are constantly imprinting this
powerful level of mind with every belief and attitude we pick up. Our past thoughts have
programmed our subconscious. Every old impression is written and retained there.
When we have a desire that’s in harmony with our programming, deep mind accepts the
desire without question because it is congruent with the program. The subconscious
accepts this sort of desire without resistance, and spontaneously manifests the inner
thought into exterior reality.
An example would be a successful business person starting a new product line about
which he’s very excited. Because he trusts ability to succeed (i.e., he has a winning
attitude engrained in his subconscious), the new product line will probably be a success.
The thinker’s conscious desire, being in alignment with his subconscious belief, brings
his idea into form on the material level.
Consider, by contrast, a person who has no confidence in himself . His talents may
actually exceed those of the person in the first example, and he might have an idea for the
identical product line. But in this person’s hands, the project will almost surely fail.
Why? Because his subconscious mind holds the belief that he is a loser. It therefore
sabotages his good intentions and efforts with quiet negative self-talk that creates fear or
doubt. His conscious desire is not aligned with his subconscious beliefs about who he is,
what he’s capable of, and how the universe works.
So the circumstances and opportunities never come together for this person that are
requisite for success, in spite of affirmations he repeats, prayers he makes, time he puts
in, or anything else. The ensuing failure of the project reinforces his original belief that
he is hopeless. The next time he tries to accomplish something, his chances of success are
even slimmer than last time he made an attempt.
This kind of mental self-sabotage keeps us al, to some degree or other, from having what
we long for. We may be successful at manifesting certain desires, around which we carry
no subconscious baggage, but most of us house programming that tells us we are limited,
at least in certain areas of life.
We may be materially successful and affluent but always bat zero in personal
relationships. Perhaps we have loving family and abundance, but can’t get rid of our
asthma or some nagging extra pounds. Maybe we’re doing fine personally, but feel we’re
helpless to solve the serious problems of the world. And almost everybody accepts that
ageing and death are necessary – few people even consider using thought to create eternal
youth or physical immortality, because the collective programming is so deeply
entrenched against this.
How do we get around this problem of a self-sabotaging, negatively programmed
subconscious mind? The first thing is to realize that what looks like lack of personal
power is really tremendous power hiding behind the mask of self-doubt. The person who
can’t get what she consciously longs for is very powerful in creating what she
subconsciously thinks she deserves: failure and unhappiness. Once she can see how her
beliefs about herself are what undercut her, once she becomes conscious of the negative
self-talk, she comes to an understanding that allows her to change the situation.
The trick is to persuade the deeper levels of mind to accept the new consciously held
opinion that I should have, experience, or be able to do the thing I wish. How does a
person persuade subconscious mind to give up its long-held attitudes and biases that
subvert that?
We come to realize that if our subconscious harbours self-defeating attitudes, it is our own
conscious thoughts that created the situation. Telling ourselves again and again for years,
“I can’t,” “It’s dangerous,” “It’s impossible,” or “I’ll look stupid” has coloured the
subconscious mind with matching beliefs. But what conscious mind created, it can
uncreate. The computer programmer can always overwrite the program he has written for
himself.
We are each the author of our personal story, and we can revise it at any time. We can
only do this if we can perceive how our thoughts have created and/or allowed all of our
experience.
Looking back on our childhood, or on incidents of victimization in our lives, we may find
it hard to believe our thoughts either created or allowed the whole scenario. But if we’re
wiling to let go of the karma doctrine long enough to consider an alternative idea, what if
we planned our own incarnation? Freely made plans in the between-life place would then
have determined the circumstances of our birth. (For more on this fascinating concept,
read psychologist Dr. Michael Newton’s “Journey of Souls,” a book of transcripts of
conversations with hypnotically regressed subjects who revisit their pre-incarnation plans
for their various lifetimes.)
Once we consciously accept that we are indeed the authors of our reality and should, in
theory, be able to change and direct it, we are ready for the next phase of empowerment,
which is to start to rewrite the programming we no longer want in our subconscious
mind. How do we do that?
There are several parts to this, and more than one right way to go about it. One excellent
strategy, outlined beautifully in Neville’s books, “The Law and the Promise” and “The
Power of Awareness,” is to imagine, before falling asleep, precisely what you desire to
experience, in al its colour and glory. As your drowsy mind fantasizes, your subconscious
mind becomes more alert and receptive (because deeper mind is most lively and open in a
drowsy or trance like state). Using this technique, the image of what is desired is recorded
by the subconscious mind clearly and powerfully. Resistance to the desire is less than in
normal waking consciousness, because the mental chatter is absent in a drowsy, alpha
state.
You know you’re making progress when you find yourself “getting into” the fantasy,
experiencing it as you would a movie in which you’re emotionally involved. When you
find your emotions and/or your senses responding to your imaging, it means your
subconscious mind is accepting your desire without blocking it. Deep mind is seeing your
wish as a doable thing. The program is being rewritten!
When you practice this technique (which I like to call “imaginating”), it’s important to
visualize the scene from the perspective of being in it, not from the perspective of a
watcher. Imaginating is different in that sense from watching a movie. You become an
actor in the scene, as opposed to an outside observer. Rather than seeing an image of
yourself thin, let yourself experience the feeling of being thin, and imagine doing the
things you would do or feel as a thin person. If you want a visual image of yourself, you
can imaginate looking in a mirror. The point is to imaginate from the perspective of being
in the movie.
If you find that visual images don’t spontaneously come to you, it doesn’t mater. You
can imaginate through any of the senses: sound, touch, taste, smell – you don’t have to
get visuals. You can even imaginate without sense involvement, by imagining the feeling
of an experience. For most of us, though, starting out using some sense image helps
generate the feeling we’re looking for. Having the feeling of the wish fulfiled is the
culmination of properly practised imaginating.
When you imaginate, picture the scene as if the desire has already been accomplished.
Don’t imagine looking at the title of your home – imagine holding it in your hand. Don’t
think of a piece of land in the country – imagine sitting on the grass in the front yard, or
working in the garden. Imagine however your heart directs you, but always from the
perspective of the wish fulfilled. If you imaginate a bike in a store window, the bike will
always stay in the store window. Instead, feel yourself riding the bike, with your personal
paraphernalia attached.
By practising this technique right before sleep and sometimes failing asleep in the midst
of the fantasy, a person will often find their desire realized in the outer world in a very
short time. Circumstances come together, sometimes in remarkable ways, to bring the
wished-for results.
While subconscious mind may seem dumb in that it blindly accepts whatever we tel it,
there’s nothing dumb about an intelligence that can move the universe to bring us what
we want. The subconscious mind deserves to be respected, but we need to understand that
it is we, as conscious mind, that gives the orders.
We also need to understand that what we consciously desire may not always be good for
us. It’s advisable to contemplate al desires at the deepest level of mind, the level of
Infinite Source Consciousness, before deciding whether to imaginate on them. If upon
self referral a desire seems in alignment with Infinite Source, then it has the support of
God behind it. That will help overwrite any resistant attitudes to the desire that the
subconscious may hold. We can directly solicit Infinite Source to overwrite our self-
defeating altitudes, and God will work with us to accomplish that.
Affirmations, while pretty useless by themselves, are powerful when practised in concert
with imaginating. They’re especially potent uttered a few times after getting into bed,
before starting the technique. They’re also potent when thought or uttered on waking,
since waking up and falling asleep are both twilight junctures when the mind is in alpha
state just on the borders of sleep. (For this reason, waking but still drowsy is another
very effective time to imaginate). Keep written affirmations under your pillow or on your
nightstand. Pronounce them with attention and feeling when you think or say them, or
they are only empty words.
Now we get to the number-one difficulty so many people experience in manifesting
desires: negative self-talk. This can happen any time your desire is not in alignment with
your subconscious long-held attitudes and beliefs. Imaginating goes a long way toward
overwriting ancient negative attitudes, because once the subconscious accepts the new
image, through an emotional response to the imaging, the old program is already being
revised. But if your desire dramatically contrasts with the “old you” or your old
world-view, the subconscious mind may (not necessarily) give you some backtalk before
it fully accepts what you are selling it.
An analogy to this is failing in love. The boy and girl are having wonderful feelings for
each other. Something powerful is happening. But sometimes, when they’re apart, they
have doubtful thoughts about themselves, the beloved, and what they’re experiencing.
That’s the subconscious mind questioning the new direction, asking for an explanation
that reconciles the old view of reality with the new emerging view. Lovers who give in to
the doubts lose each other. Those who talk themselves through it, and reassure their
subconscious mind that these new feelings are safe and good, are rewarded with the
blissful experience of deep intimacy.
In the same way, as conscious creators, we have to talk down the doubts our
subconscious minds might kick up, in the way of negative self-talk, about why we can’t
or shouldn’t have what we wish for. One popular argument we hear from the Big Sub is
that the world doesn’t work that way. It tells us we’re chasing a pipe dream. It says we’ve
gone around the bend. Just the same argument the Sub gives to the lover for why what he
is feeling isn’t real.
This back talk usually comes in quiet ways, as little nagging feelings throughout the day.
It whispers on a barely conscious level, poisoning our good mood and self-confidence.
After a perfectly blissful morning imaginating session, where we joyfully knew our
dream was in the process of coming true, we can, by 11 o’clock, be irritable and
depressed, asking ourselves, “What on earth was I thinking?”
How to handle this? I’ve found head-on confrontation to be most effective. When I notice
negative self-talk, I try to take a break from whatever I’m doing and give a little feedback
to the Sub. I close my eyes, get quiet, and look at the nagging thought my subconscious
mind has presented. Then I genuinely consider the possible truth of the negative thought,
in light of my desired ideal. I listen to the argument of my sadly programmed
subconscious as I would to an opposing parent or spouse: with patience and atention.
Then I’m able to see the fallacies in its point of view, which is easy, because I now know
more about life than I did when I taught those attitudes to my subconscious.
So I explain to the Sub where its thinking is wrong, why life does not work quite that
way, or why it doesn’t have to. I do this little internal conversation using reason, logic,
emotion, love, whatever my instinct tels me is necessary to heal the old attitude. It’s like
telling a little child, afraid to jump in the water for the first time, why it’s al right and
doable. You listen to the fears, and then you address them. You reassure and explain, in
light of your greater knowledge. And the child, or in this case, subconscious mind,
adjusts its thinking to reflect your reassuring understanding.
This idea, about talking things through with your subconscious, comes from Dr. Joseph
Murphy’s “The Power of Your Subconscious Mind.” That wonderful book illustrates
several different ways of programming deeper mind to reflect what you consciously
choose and desire for your life. Combined with Neville’s books, it serves as an excellent
primer in how to consciously work the Law of Attraction.
But back to negative self-talk. Sitting down and having a little chat with your
subconscious is the most useful technique I’ve discovered for rewriting old self-defeating
programs. You may have to do it a number of times. In the first session, you’ll answer
and erase the first “Yes, but.” Later that same day or the next, your subconscious will
raise another, different objection, one that underlies the doubt you just resolved. So you
sit down and address that issue, too. Then a still deeper layer of programming will expose
itself in the form of another nagging fear or doubt. Again, you consciously and
compassionately address it. You keep on doing this, peeling the onion, until al the
objections have been aired and answered. After this happens, the self-talk wil be far les
powerful. That’s because the overwrite is well under way.
But sabotaging self-talk may stil occur. At this stage, negativity is mostly a mater of old
habit. The subconscious mind has understood the new explanations you’ve sold it, but it
hasn’t completely bought the package. It’s used to the old habitual way of seeing and
doing. That is more familiar, more comfortable. At this point, a little self discussion
about comfort zones may be in order. When you’ve talked that through and have the
feeling your subconscious mind is basically in league with you, but hesitant to commit,
that may be the time to simply tell it: “Enough –we’re going to do this thing.”
This is a form of ordaining that works when subconscious mind is 99 percent with you
and just needs a little nudge over the edge. But don’t order your deeper mind around
unless you’ve fully listened to it first. If you start out your work on a manifesting a desire
by telling self-talk to stop, your deep mind will obey you. The doubts and fears will go
underground and become repressed. Then your desire won’t materialize, and you’ll be
stymied as to why. Your subconscious won’t tell you, of course, because you told it to
shut up.
Never regard your subconscious mind as stupid or a nuisance, something to be sneered at
or bossed. Its doubts and fears are trying to protect you, based on what you taught it is
safe from before. Treat it like a concerned friend. But after you’ve explained everything
to the friend, if they have no objection left other than being nervous at the newness of it
al, it’s time to nudge them encouragingly and say, “Come on, buddy, let’s go for it.”
I’ve found my negative self-talk to be dramatically affected by these strategies. On most
of the former “issues” in my life, self-sabotage has stopped completely. I feel in once
piece, in an optimistic, happy frame of mind most of the time. I’ve manifested dramatic
things, mostly using imaginating and conversations (when needed) with my doubting
mind. Now that my subconscious operates from a program more in alignment with my
conscious values, I find myself spontaneously moving to a new level of manifesting.
I cal this level “ordaining” – simply wiling, or giving the order, that something is so.
This works if you do it from a state of consciousness that is a unity of conscious mind,
subconscious mind, and Infinite Source. Ordaining has resulted in instantaneous healing
and some other remarkable results. But this is a new area for me that I am only starting to
learn to move around in, so I can’t write much about it at this point.
Remember to use the “conversations with the Sub” strategy alongside your imaginating.
The two work together, because it’s the imaginating that stirs up and challenges the old
programming blocking your manifestation. If you just sit around waiting for the
subconscious to kick up and reveal its buried attitudes, without any imaginating to
stimulate that, the mind will oblige you in the form of its typical daily background mental
chatter, and indeed it’s always worthwhile to address that. But if you combine this with
imaginating, you’re actively stirring up the buried mud, which starts flying to the surface.
Then you can clean out old attitude much more quickly.
Cognitive psychology teaches people to re-frame negative self-talk by becoming aware of
it, then considering in what way the negative thought isn’t true, then replacing it with a
conscious thought that better reflects the truth (this could be an affirmation). Studies have
shown that this strategy changes brain chemistry in people suffering from chronic
depression to the same degree that brain chemistry is altered through anti-depressive
medications. Cognitive psychology is clearly onto something, and it doesn’t hurt to
borrow the strategy. Basically, you overwrite negative self-talk, when noticed, with an
affirming statement that supports the new attitude or desire you’re working on. This
complements the other techniques we’re talking about here.
“The Law and the Promise” contains many first-hand accounts from Neville’s students
about what happened when they practised his method. I could add stories of my own. The
miraculous events that have already happened in my life have generated a confidence that
drives me to work on still greater manifestations. My experience has completely
convinced me that thought can create anything we want to experience! There are no
limits, because consciousness is unlimited.
What about when you want something and someone else desires the opposite? Since both
people have the power of creation, their desires can cancel each other out, or weaken the
power of each other. If you desire something that conflicts with someone else, the best
solution is often to move to a higher level of desiring, to envision a solution where both
of you will be satisfied.
For instance, if you apply for a job and 15 other people are competing, you can imaginate
yourself being thrilled with your work, creative and happy as you go about your day,
doing the kind of work you love and having a great income — this, rather than
imaginating snagging that particular job, which places you in conflict with the creating
energies of 15 other people. You can word an affirmation in a way that promotes al 15
people finding jobs they love, right along with you.
If your ideal job matches the job you’ve applied for, the position will then be yours,
without any conflict from the desires of the other applicants. If the job in question is
perfect for someone else, they will get the job while you find something better, a position
better aligned with your desire.
Everyone winds up happy because you imaginated in a harmonious way that brought
fulfilment to everyone, not just to yourself. The universe can easily fulfil a desire like
that, as there is no resistance.
The Law of Attraction is the key to creating in this world, and also to protecting
ourselves from other people’s creations that we don’t wish to be involved in. Whatever
the world is doing around us, we can carve our own path through the woods and go
wherever we wish. We can use affirmation to disconnect from any negative influences,
entities or programs that have previously controlled or manipulated us. We need to
consciously withdraw ourselves from thoughts, activities and alliances that have allowed
others to dominate our lives.
Conscious choice, or alternatively, unconscious acceptance, determines what we get to
experience in this world. We have the choice of being conscious creators or victims. That
is The Secret, the key to everything wonderful in life, including realities most people
don’t even dream are possible.
Some people use the Law of Attraction to manifest selfish or superficial things. That’s
rather like Frodo, finding the ring of power and mistaking it for a piece of trinket jewellery.
We can use the Law of Attraction to fundamentally change our experience. We can use it
to create good for others. We can use it to make a better world.
Perhaps it’s foolish to use the genie that can grant any wish by asking for something
trifling. On the other hand, if some people need to do that for a while to establish their
confidence in the genie, then materializing toys probably serves a good purpose. Each
successful manifestation leads to more trust in the process. In time, our confidence rises
to the point where we can ordain reality like a master.
If consciousness creates the outer reality, then consciousness is king. Thought is king. We
can think and create unconsciously and get more of the same old thing. Or, we can think
fresh thoughts, dream bold dreams, and talk ourselves into a finer state of existence.
Whether we live on purpose or on autopilot, we are creating and/or allowing everything
that appears in our path. Once we know this – our power to choose, our power of
permission – we move from passive victims to masters of living.
Karma is a lie that keeps us enslaved to the past. Our future is not determined by what we
did but by what we presently choose to think and experience. Karma only exists in the
mind, in the ancient attitudes that keep us enslaved to tired-out negative patterns. Karma
dissolves when we change our thinking, first consciously, then subconsciously.
When conscious and subconscious agree, and take their direction from the harmonious
Infinite within, life opens out into beauty and miracles. This is the new consciousness
humanity is moving into. When we arrive there, we’ll transform the world into paradise.
Metaphor
26th January 2013, 17:44
I´m on chapter two, and I am equally impressed. Good find! The first chapter was almost like a rebel-leaders speech to a band of outlaws, like we all here on avalon are. Spititual outlaws.
I too urge everbody to read this.
ROMANWKT
26th January 2013, 17:46
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