To Help, or To Not Help?

[music]

It is generally agreed that we each have our own journey, and individuals should be left to determine their own course. There is truth in this, certainly, but what about offering help to another individual? One might say: “butt out, it is their journey, do not interfere”, and another might say: “perhaps help from another IS part of their journey?” I have found that help from others has been a big part of my journey, and I am truly grateful to all who have selflessly helped me along the way. Thank you.

If our help is not part of another’s journey, they will not take it. We can only endeavour to make our offer of help sincere and selfless. Helping with this, off the top of my head, might be “non-attachment to outcome”; “do not badger – no thank you means just that”; and “be free from the desire for recognition or thanks.”

[Rocky_Shorz]

the insights show how paths can cross many times before the time is right...

both will be drawn by the other, it is very mutual when the time comes...

[music]

I feel the same - if it is meant to be, it will be.

[Tesseract]

One interesting aspect of unsolicited attempts of one person to help another is that it can expose the assumptions that the would be helper has made about the character of the one to be helped. The latter is often left surprised, and even dismayed, that the other person has perceived them in the way that they did.

[MaroonLagoon]

Help from others has made up a lot of my journey too, which I'm also very thankful for. Offering help to others or not offering help to them has determined parts of my journey. So either way it was a part of my journey. Also in some cases it's been important for my own well-being not to help. Usually I try to offer it in the form of encouragement at least if I can which a lot of times has been all I was able to do and sometimes just what the person seemed to have needed. I guess maybe that's where free will is involved, it's each of our choice to help or not to help and each of our journeys are affected by the outcome? I just don't see how if everyone was meant to go it alone we would all be here together but I also see how if the person receiving help doesn't apply it beneficially then it can negatively impact the helper. Same as help without genuinely caring intentions can negatively impact the person who needs real help. I think (feel?) we get to decide if it's a part of our journey or not. My heart says help if you can and if you can't then don't, but it's always better to try. Is this what you mean?

I personally don't usually get offended if someone offers me help even if it is presumptuous of them, I appreciate people caring enough to ask either way. Well I guess if someone was like, "Do you need me to help you get some fashion sense?" or something like that it might offend me a little haha. Better for it to be talked about rather than assumed maybe though

[Freed Fox]

Thanks for this thread, music.

Strangely, I think I have been on the two polar extremes of this issue at different times. I would not be here if not for the help I've received, and simultaneously would not be here (precisely) if I had not been allowed to work certain things out on my own. I don't think this came down to someone's conscious choice; rather, there was a period of time in which I thought I needed to be saved, but no one ever came. This allowed me to save myself and I believe that doing so was a crucial step.

I do believe in what has been stated about acting from the heart. If you truly feel that your help is needed, then grant it. The tricky thing is that occasionally the ego will tell you to intervene, and those are the times in which you run into the other issues. Becoming attached to the outcome, helping for selfish reasons, or coming off as presumptuous to the person you are attempting to aid.

The ego is a resilient beast, though...I must admit. But generally speaking I help when and where the opportunity arises (and I manage to perceive it).

[Snookie]

How true this is Freed Fox!
"The tricky thing is that occasionally the ego will tell you to intervene, and those are the times in which you run into the other issues".

I have really been struggling with this issue lately..how much do you say to someone...how little? I keep thinking what if my nephew hadn't asked me questions like "have you ever heard of the Ulluminatti?" and given me some David Icke DVDs to watch, I'd never have started to go down the rabbit hole (at least not as far as I have).

With this in mind I sent my step son a couple links as a follow up to a conversation on mind control we had a few days before. His response was that they may have done in the past, but they wouldn't get away with that now. I was disappointed, then I realized this was probably more my ego getting in the way. I figure if he wants to ask my opinion in the future, fine but otherwise I'll try to keep my mouth shut.

[music]

Balance, funny how that word always crops up! Yes, I would say our lives as social animals are a mixture of helping or being helped. This is perhaps what is the true spirit behind the concept of "community". And what lies behind this? I would venture that we help and form communities because ultimately, we are one. Hey,
I think someone started a thread about that very subject right here :D

Don't worry about the ego - the ego isn't our enermy, just a tool that was promoted to leader. We don't wish to kill it, merely return it to it's proper place - one part of the integrated whole.

[Falcor]

fwiw.....you have been a great help to me music. much blessings to you friend :)