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panopticon
3rd January 2013, 02:43
I came across this article from the CSIRO titled 'Our Galaxy's "geysers" are towers of power' (http://www.csiro.au/en/Portals/Media/Our-Galaxys-geysers-are-towers-of-power.aspx) and was curious how it fits into the work of LaViolette and/or the Electric Universe hypothesis. The gist is that observations made by astronomers indicate that the energy bursts coming from the centre of the Milky Way are not from a black hole but rather from young and exploding stars.


In fact, the outflows appear to have been driven by many generations of stars forming and exploding in the Galactic Centre over the last hundred million years. The key to determining this was to measure the outflows' magnetic fields.
Source (http://www.csiro.au/en/Portals/Media/Our-Galaxys-geysers-are-towers-of-power.aspx).

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Our Galaxy's "geysers" are towers of power
3rd January 2013

"Monster" outflows of charged particles from the centre of our Galaxy, stretching more than halfway across the sky, have been detected and mapped with CSIRO's 64-m Parkes radio telescope.

The outflows were were detected by astronomers from Australia, the USA, Italy and The Netherlands. They report their finding in today's issue of Nature.

"These outflows contain an extraordinary amount of energy — about a million times the energy of an exploding star," said the research team's leader, CSIRO's Dr Ettore Carretti.

But the outflows pose no danger to Earth or the Solar System.

The speed of the outflow is supersonic, about 1000 kilometres a second. "That's fast, even for astronomers," Dr Carretti said.

"They are not coming in our direction, but go up and down from the Galactic Plane. We are 30,000 light-years away from the Galactic Centre, in the Plane. They are no danger to us."

From top to bottom the outflows extend 50,000 light-years [five hundred thousand million million kilometres] out of the Galactic Plane.

That's equal to half the diameter of our Galaxy (which is 100,000 light-years — a million million million kilometres — across).

Seen from Earth, the outflows stretch about two-thirds across the sky from horizon to horizon.

The outflows correspond to a "haze" of microwave emission previously spotted by the WMAP and Planck space telescopes and regions of gamma-ray emission detected with NASA's Fermi space telescope in 2010, which were dubbed the "Fermi Bubbles".

The WMAP, Planck and Fermi observations did not provide enough evidence to indicate definitively the source of the radiation they detected, but the new Parkes observations do.

"The options were a quasar-like outburst from the black hole at the Galactic Centre, or star-power — the hot winds from young stars, and exploding stars," said team member Dr Gianni Bernardi of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

"Our observations tell us it's star-power."

In fact, the outflows appear to have been driven by many generations of stars forming and exploding in the Galactic Centre over the last hundred million years.

The key to determining this was to measure the outflows' magnetic fields.

"We did this by measuring a key property of the radio waves from the outflows — their polarisation," said team member Dr Roland Crocker of the Max-Planck-Institut fuer Kernphysik in Heidelberg, Germany, and the Australian National University.

The new observations also help to answer one of astronomers' big questions about our Galaxy: how it generates and maintains its magnetic field.

"The outflow from the Galactic Centre is carrying off not just gas and high-energy electrons, but also strong magnetic fields," said team member Dr Marijke Haverkorn of Radboud University Nijmegen in The Netherlands.

"We suspect this must play a big part in generating the Galaxy's overall magnetic field."
Article Source (http://www.csiro.au/en/Portals/Media/Our-Galaxys-geysers-are-towers-of-power.aspx).
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Additional reports:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-03/scientists-shed-light-on-space-geysers/4450956
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2256189/The-mystery-monster-charged-particles-coming-centre-Galaxy-dont-panic-astronomers-say-arent-dangerous.html

Thoughts, ideas, critiques all welcome as I don't know much about this field and am interested in thoughts from those who do know something about it.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

TargeT
3rd January 2013, 04:20
from what I've read the geysers them selves it lines up perfectly, with the electric universe theory; those are huge plumes of plasma (excited mater) unimaginable amounts of power.

most visible (non-star) phenomenon in space is an plasma expression & the helical twisting is a dead give away of the longer run nebula.

now as for their source, I can't exactly comment on that, but a non-blackhole source lines up perfectly with the Electric universe theory as well.

here's a brief black hole summary from the Electric universe side:
wkq3oUXUrfQ

Mark
3rd January 2013, 05:41
"The options were a quasar-like outburst from the black hole at the Galactic Centre, or star-power — the hot winds from young stars, and exploding stars," said team member Dr Gianni Bernardi of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Or -->

The Schwarzschild Geometry (http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/schww.html):


The Schwarzschild metric admits negative square root as well as positive square root solutions for the geometry.

The complete Schwarzschild geometry consists of a black hole, a white hole, and two Universes connected at their horizons by a wormhole.

The negative square root solution inside the horizon represents a white hole. A white hole is a black hole running backwards in time. Just as black holes swallow things irretrievably, so also do white holes spit them out. White holes cannot exist, since they violate the second law of thermodynamics.

General Relativity is time symmetric. It does not know about the second law of thermodynamics, and it does not know about which way cause and effect go. But we do.

The negative square root solution outside the horizon represents another Universe. The wormhole joining the two separate Universes is known as the Einstein-Rosen bridge.

It's more elegant if the center of galaxies were black hole/white hole alternate geometries and it would fit this evidence better too. Yin and Yang, babyyy!
:wizard:

bennycog
3rd January 2013, 11:00
from what I've read the geysers them selves it lines up perfectly, with the electric universe theory; those are huge plumes of plasma (excited mater) unimaginable amounts of power.

most visible (non-star) phenomenon in space is an plasma expression & the helical twisting is a dead give away of the longer run nebula.

now as for their source, I can't exactly comment on that, but a non-blackhole source lines up perfectly with the Electric universe theory as well.

here's a brief black hole summary from the Electric universe side:
wkq3oUXUrfQ

I like the electric universe theory.. made understandable by VIVEK in http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48863-The-Mechanics-of-the-Matrix

I like the theory of our spiraling galaxy ( from which i have tried to find the thread where i seen it, damn search program, it was not long ago)

I would like to see if the pieces fit together between these :) i understand that if i am looking out into the stars i should see the slow spiralling light of another galaxy,, but it is worth a thought and i think worth some effort to check out..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0jHsq36_NTU#t=4s

From both theories i also want find out how asteriods/rouge planets fit in?

It is all fantastic and i hope we are on the verge of knowing new and exciting things..

I feel comprehending them is going to be a task..