Secret Russian Smersh book, known alien races.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Oke since i am on the UFo etc forum, here we go.

I was browsing Youtube this week and came across these videos, by Azazel ( a compilation of Mojo his own videos was also done by this fellow i think, correct me if i am wrong here Mojo).

The story is, Stalin created the Smersh in Russia, a precursor to the KGB and what have we, the Smersh came into possesion of a book, in this book were the origins and names and basic characteristics of known alien races and how and why they interacted with humanity and how long/often they were present on planet earth.

Somehow this book found its way to whoknowswho for whoknowswhat purpose and the info got out.

Interesting if true, if not, one more hoax to add to your scrapbook, there are however some pretty interesting images in this 3 part presentation.

The intro in each video is the same so you can skip the first almost five minutes from the second two videos after you have seen the first one.

Here we go.

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[DNA]

I don't know what to say. I'm a decent pervayer of UFO material and most of this is new to me. I have very little with which to compare it too. Still, fascinating stuff.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I don't know what to say. I'm a decent pervayer of UFO material and most of this is new to me. I have very little with which to compare it too. Still, fascinating stuff.

It is all new to me too DNA, but i posted it because it is somewhat interesting and deserved a viewing, in the last video he states he has posession of the book or at least some of its contents and he will post it on line for free, so who knows, it did however occur to me that a lot of information he stated as fact, and this always gives me the creeps, not just because it COULD BE facts, but mainly because it can discredit info for all eternity.

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[DNA]

I don't know what to say. I'm a decent pervayer of UFO material and most of this is new to me. I have very little with which to compare it too. Still, fascinating stuff.

It is all new to me too DNA, but i posted it because it is somewhat interesting and deserved a viewing, in the last video he states he has posession of the book or at least some of its contents and he will post it on line for free, so who knows, it did however occur to me that a lot of information he stated as fact, and this always gives me the creeps, not just because it COULD BE facts, but mainly because it can discredit info for all eternity.

It just occurred to me that John Lear used to say something like 57 races were visiting our planet, and that he used to refer to it as a heinz 57 thing. How many races were mentioned in the video?



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I was wrong, he only mentions 18


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3JqglAPVs


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It was Clifford Stone who mentioned the 57 races


at 33:20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_3aneRPOg

[Alien Ramone]

Most of the time when there are stories of aliens, they are sort of reinforced by other similar stories. In the posted video, most of the types of aliens listed, I hadn't heard of before. Even the mention of the Grays involved a name I hadn't heard them called before, and the description of their agenda didn't match up well with the other stories that are out there about them. The descriptions and depictions of the different alien groups had a science fiction feel about them. I don't know if it's true or not; I'm just describing the feeling I got when I watched the video.

[Hervé]

Most of the time when there are stories of aliens, they are sort of reinforced by other similar stories. In the posted video, most of the types of aliens listed, I hadn't heard of before. Even the mention of the Grays involved a name I hadn't heard them called before, and the description of their agenda didn't match up well with the other stories that are out there about them. The descriptions and depictions of the different alien groups had a science fiction feel about them. I don't know if it's true or not; I'm just describing the feeling I got when I watched the video.

I understand the feeling and perception which are both valid.

The thing that complicates the picture is the difference between the original ET races and the ones captured from each others and "serving" their captors under implanted, mind-control programs... you know, the typical products of wars in the Roman Empire bringing back the conquered as slaves to Rome... see Truman Cash' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions)s and Simon Parkes' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.) threads.

Then, there are the "mercenaries," you know, like the CIA organized Al Quaida to generate terrorism all over the planet... well, as below, so above.

Then, maybe, the whole thing can be gelled into a bigger picture?

[Ammit]

Without a doubt, these are the most interesting video's i have seen in many years.

Thanks for posting them.

[Snookie]

Fascinating stuff! If this info is accurate, it would seem that the characteristics of several of these races have been clumped together into fewer groups based on reading other sources. In other words there are more races from other planet/galaxies described here that have similar characteristics, but are not exactly the same, i.e. there are several groups we would lump together as "Grays", but they are different races.

The Russians have been much more open about alien life being a reality than the west has.

I read a book by Dolores Cannon (Convoluted Universe Book One) where she has regressed a lady to a prior life where she is what is described as a "mechanical person". She is basically a robot, but her creators have given her a little bit of their soul so her and others like her can go explore other planets to see if they are habitable. She is made of a metal-like substance not found on earth which allows her to go to places with extemely high tempatures. Supposedly the reason they gave her a bit of their soul is so she could make better decisions....amazing if it's true!

[BlueGem]

If this is at all accurate, would it then be fair to say it is probably very outdated?

57 species of known ET seems quite low, given the vastness and mysteriousness of even our own galaxy. If worldwide governments have been associating with ET races for a long time, then secret human knowledge would surely be vast. Information coming from that level down into the public would take a long time, and could become obscure even without disinformation.

[Ultima Thule]

Three videos of overtly dramatized nothing - with nothing whatsoever that could be considered credible. There might be something to the book - in fact I´d say the actual book in scanned form would do just fine, even without music.

Am I being odd here? Do you guys find anything in these videos that you can take into the bank? I´m not meaning to be dissing these videos categorically(although I guess I just did), but I do find them mostly free of any actual content ;)

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[778 neighbour of some guy]

Am I being odd here?

Nope, this story could be viewed in any possible way.


Do you guys find anything in these videos that you can take into the bank?

Nope again, its a dramatised story of an at most interesting tale, most of the work actually gets done by a darkish popular presentation style, fits right in here;).


I´m not meaning to be dissing these videos categorically(although I guess I just did)

Nah, you did not, you took it for what it is worth iyo and thats fine, its still just a story, never seen one of the introduced aliens walking his/her/mine/your dog in the local park, so its all anecdotal.


but I do find them mostly free of any actual content

True, not much is said, speculation stated as fact indeed( like 85% of all Material on the thread imo), still, viewing the vids was sorta fun and new, so.... it got posted.

[Freed Fox]

So, did this individual ever upload the book itself (as he/she claimed they would)? I browsed around the YT channel but couldn't find any follow-up.
Like several others here, I'm regarding this with a healthy dose of skepticism, but it is somewhat interesting nonetheless.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

So, did this individual ever upload the book itself (as he/she claimed they would)? I browsed around the YT channel but couldn't find any follow-up.

Could not find it either and skepticism is not a bad mindset when viewing these sorts of materials at all, take nothing for granted and dont take my word for it is one of the better things being on Avalon taught me, think for yourself, not saying there is nothing out there, but the subject does get milked to the bone, very true.

[the_flyingboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J_K5vHQnlQ

[ghostrider]

with millions of stars out there, millions of galaxies, come on , it's just us right ??? No life anywhere else right ??? it's like saying there's only one fish in the sea ... our milkyway has one million forty thousand human civilizations ... if each galaxy is similar , how many civilizations are out there ??? it is said our human spirit is 22 millions years old, we must have done some traveling in all those years ... if we get past the memory block in our consciousness , look out ...

[MadMax1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR014_jY7po



I suggest if you have not watched this russian documentry that you do it is very interesting and shows how much information the Russians have on UFO and since the fall of the Soviet Union they are more open in revealng it.

[Billy]

From my end all 3 OP video's are unavailable on Utube. Anyone else having this problem???

[MadMax1]

From my end all 3 OP video's are unavailable on Utube. Anyone else having this problem???

If you mean the first 3 videos on this page then yes they do not exist which i think mean they have been taken of youtube the one i posted further down the page is veiwable and a good watch

[778 neighbour of some guy]

From my end all 3 OP video's are unavailable on Utube. Anyone else having this problem???

Hi Billyji,

you are correct, those three video's in the OP no longer exist, post 15 in the thread however, posted by Flyingboy is a compilation of the three OP video's, I'll give him a bump.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J_K5vHQnlQ

Bumped...........

[Amity]

That video is really hard to watch and take seriously. The production is a joke and it just loops the same clips over and over. Most of it doesn't need to be in there and if they just got to the info without all rubbish it might be watch-able.

I gave it 20 mins and couldn't stick any more so if if does get better let me know and I'll try and give it another shot.

[Freed Fox]

I agree with the negative criticism toward the production values, at least as they pertain to the beginning of the video. However, when it gets rolling with the actual (relevant) content, it isn't so bad.

For those who are interested, or those who couldn't stomach said 'artistic' touches, skip to about 12 minutes into the video. The first 6 or 7 minutes have absolutely no value, being what appears to be frivolous self-promotion and hype. An additional 6 or 7 minutes is spent on a subsequent introduction, which really could have been cut down on, and contain many of the same aesthetics which others have voiced distaste toward. After that, he starts describing the races detailed in the book and the whole thing becomes much more bearable.

I had some time on my hands the other day and decided to watch it. The actual content is somewhat interesting, and shouldn't necessarily be dismissed entirely due to the missteps of the video's creator, who is not the original source of this information. That said, I'm in no way convinced... It is a curiosity, if nothing else. For one thing, I would like to know how this person got access to the 'Smersh book' (unless I missed some explanation in that regard). Also, photos or footage of the book itself would be nice... He claims that some of the pictures used are from the book, which may very well be the case, but it is hardly verifiable without more to go on.

Some UFO footage is presented in between some of the 'races'. While a few of them are of the compulsory 'small black dot in the far distance' variety, there are a few clips which I had not seen before, which are among the best I've personally viewed. Detracting from that fact, unfortunately, is the use of a few similar clips which are obviously fake, as well as the re-use of a few clips which are quite trying on one's patience.

Overall, I can't universally recommend the video, but I can't entirely dismiss it either. It presents some intriguing material, admittedly amid a lot of clutter. If one has the interest (along with the required time and patience) it's probably worth a look.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

;)Basically, the whole video is full of artists representations of presumed races, from a presumed book, based on presumed sightings, presumed dates, presumed characteristics, presumed dispositions, and crazy presentations style, I believe the maker is a member now, don't know for sure though, but he sure comes across as one and the same person, ah well, everyone needs a hobby, Greer does hearings, dope and is a reptilian with ego large enough to black out the sun and this feller makes weird video's, it was entertaining when I posted it anyway, entertaining, no more no less, it has been a long time since I have seen a good video though, the aliens are turning into shmaliens by now, sigh.;)

[OnyxKnight]

The book probably doesn't even exist. Nobody is that careless, especially if ts Russia. If it exists, its archived somewhere and its contents are uploaded digitally, and further updated as time goes by.

Another hint that this was probably a disinformation attempt is the fact that a lot of either doesn't make sense (compared to existing contact/abduction/insider cases and materials), or is inconsistent and contradictory at times. I also find it dubious that the russians, one of the best who studied space, would give locations like constellation, but not star systems (at least not precise ones, or they were very few, and to me at least, obvious fake locations). Or using names for constellations that do not exist, or if they had a similar name for them, that it wouldn't be translated. Or designations for species that don't make sense. Or designations for galaxies that don't make sense/don't exist. There's a lot I can pick on here, this is some of the jist of what bugged me about the video. 2 hours of pure bull.

[GoodETxSG]

I have to say, a pic of the being type I describe in my thread on Native Americans and Star People is accurately shown briefly in the video. It caught me off guard as it has never been described in Alien stories!

I am getting some translation work done, it was just a drawing w no English description at all... Or further coverage in the video. It got my attention! I have only experienced it via Elder stories and astral encounters.

Book may be a great deal disinformation but some nuggets of truth for sure are in there... Just saying.

[OnyxKnight]

The pictures are from alien depictions either in popular media or popular alternative media. It doesn't mean they are genuine. It also doesn't mean your experience was unreal either though.

[grannyfranny100]

I enjoyed the presentation style and the music - lots more entertaining than picture of type 1 photo with a caption and the next and the next. I think it took lots of time and effort to spice up what could be a very boring video that would be much too dry. Makes me want to buy a copy of the book but of course that isn't going to happen.

[Frederick Jackson]

When I ran across this on you tube I also found it interesting. Loved the sound track- Hoax or not, it goes into my mental data bank with other reports/sources. Thanks for posting.

[Sidney]

IMO, there has to be thousands of races, not 57, or 18 . It is a huge universe. Our one galaxy is only one grain of sand, on the longest beach imaginable.