David Icke 2013

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Very important information. It's all in this video. really.

A metaphor I like is: Imagine walking through a dark, dense forest - and you have a flashlight. All you can see is that small area where the flashlight is shining. But in reality there is much more around you - you just can't see it.

Then realize that the ptb are shining that light where they want you to be focusing, and because you are temporarily in a body, your senses follow the beam of the flashlight.

But once you realize your senses are only for this dimension and you have other abilities (latent, waiting for awareness) you can begin to be aware of the dark forest around you and begin to expand your consciousness into it.

[Mulder]

I've been reading a lot of critical info about ayahuasca lately. It isn't all that David Icke says. Its possible to have extremely negative experiences with it, so people should think twice before going to Peru and trying it...

[Shezbeth]

I don't disagree that Ayahuasca - like any potent medicine - can have consequences if irresponsibly taken.

It behooves the individual to do a bit of homework before any such endeavor.

Having said that, it is an experience I strongly recommend to those not faint of heart. ^_^

[Cidersomerset]

The Empire strikes back...........It will be interesting to see the mainstreams
reaction to 'The Voice'. The Mirror did a hit piece on David a few days ago.
I'm surprised a 'supposed working class peoples' paper would go after David
though as they are all Corporate fodder I should not be. It will be interesting
how the other editors/owners react !!

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By Emily Retter 16 Nov 2013 00:00


My son’s David Icke obsession killed him but I’m proud that he made his own choices

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Daily Mirror: David Icke to launch TV and radio station to tackle ‘issues ignored by mainstream media’

new Friday 22nd November 2013 at 14:01 By David Icke


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‘Self-styled prophet David Icke is launching his own TV and radio station.

The ex-BBC sports presenter says TVP – The People’s Voice – will “tackle issues ignored
by the mainstream media”.

He raised £300,000 to fund the station and says actor Keith Allen and human rights
campaigner Peter Tatchell will be contributors.’

Read more: Daily Mirror: David Icke to launch TV and radio station to tackle 'issues
ignored by mainstream media'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/david-icke-launches-tv-radio-2835939

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[bogeyman]

Not ignored. There is always someone paying attention.

[norman]

I've just sent an email to TPV asking where I can find an internet radio stream of TPV so that I won't get the TV license goons on my back. I want to be able to listen to it like I can listen to Alex Jones.

If I log on to a live TV stream, in Britain, I have to have a TV license.

I'll ask the same thing here, where can I get an internet radio stream of TPV?

[Flash]

Anyhow, we should have an answer to your requet as well for all those outside the UK

[Jayke]

You can view the live stream from their website at:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv

They'll probably post old shows on a youtube channel

[norman]

You can view the live stream from their website at:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv


Thanks, but I think you completely missed my point.

[Flash]

You can view the live stream from their website at:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv

They'll probably post old shows on a youtube channel

That was my question, how can we get reruns because we cannot listen 24/7. Also, it would be nice if we could have a Schedule in détails with invitees if possible. Up to now, I think there is something just for monday the 25th. Because there is nothing in the live link, nor in the today's Schedule. So I bet the station i closed. This should be indicated, otherwise it may discourage us from coming back.

I have no idea how a tv channel is run. So I will give it leeway since they do not have big channels budgets. But is should be possible to run it at least as Alex Jones is doing. Well, waiting.

[Gardener]

Ya i hear ya Norman, for the benefit of overseas members the 'licence' we have to get is a 'Broadcast Receiving Licence' so everything is covered even online stuff, even if you don't have a tv or radio.

[Jayke]

Just been reading on the David Icke forum how 'the people's voice' is going to be regulated by ofcom (the government regulating agency). Anyone else think any kind of government regulation might taint the quality of information they're allowed to put out.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260879

[norman]

Just been reading on the David Icke forum how 'the people's voice' is going to be regulated by ofcom (the government regulating agency). Anyone else think any kind of government regulation might taint the quality of information they're allowed to put out.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260879

Yes.

I was involved in the pre launch of a local radio station here a few years back. I tried my best to make it a notch above what it ended up being - a bunch of wannabes playing there favorite 100 tracks of music and trying their hardest to sound like the daftest radio DJs in the biz.

During all that process, I learned quite a lot about what offcom expects from a broadcaster in the UK. It's very restrictive. Nothing at all like what radio stations in the US can get away with.

I'm a little surprised that TPV is actually under the authority of offcom. I must have missed it, but I didn't know internet stations were regulated like that. Perhaps they have an ambition to be a UK national station.

[Cidersomerset]

Top Censored Stories Corporate Media Won't Dare Touch | Interview with Mickey Huff

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Published on 7 Nov 2013


Abby Martin speaks to the director of Project Censored, Mickey Huff,
about the organization's release of 'Censored: 2014' the annual
publication of the top most censored stories in the corporate press,
from the trial of Chelsea Manning to the Trans Pacific Partnership.

[ExomatrixTV]

~David Icke Site & The Peoples Voice is UNDER ATTACK !!! ~subscribe: http://youtube.com/DavidIckeNews & support: http://davidicke.com/ & http://thepeoplesvoice.tv/ (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthepeoplesvoice.tv%2F&h=hAQGzb3E-&enc=AZOcQMqV-RpltvJvemlpvhdVMsgMEVe4pRg3ZvJZdwnHLMaZFgUcIT8xCWqprKzrxVIkQTcaeRknvTbS1MvBFfrG2FH1F2xq8vD75NovKRyl5 90Jbnt8b95PqPVp2gcHqIrCxSi-Yd35h73dH1q9EGly&s=1) ... Tip came from Sherwin Lemmen (Hit LIKE if you agree there is something fishy about this attack!)

... after long loading, I saw a "DDOS-filter warning" ...

[Swan]

Courtesy of Delight:

The Peoples Voice can be viewed here http://thehealthynews.net/the-peoples-voice/

[Mulder]

Its working fine now for me. Hopefully, it was just a "glitch" and is over now.

[sian]

something's still going on, repeating phrases and echoing, here in the NW UK.

[sian]

seems ok here too now, hopefully ok for everyone, everywhere.

[Swan]

David Icke about the attack at http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

[Delight]

David Icke about the attack at http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

The title of this thread is "TPV under attack". It may be my fault (hehe) as I am quite frustrated and feeling unhappy. My feelings are not of attack but glum disconnect as this station is not transparent and user friendly to me.

No matter when I tune in, what I am hearing is not very involving as it is heavy on politics (when I turn in) that I know not about and the people are not familiar. There is no place to go to "catch up". I am possibly in the minority? This was a great idea and I am sure some are extremely happy.

The concept of 24 hour streaming one channel media is very old and has not appealed to me in a long time. This has call in shows but that is not very interactive in a way that pulls people in immediately on tuning in. To have "live" is not nearly as important to me as having who/what and a way to connect. I wonder why they can't copy MSM with the blurbs of who's on at the bottom?

So, I did write. I never heard anything when I subscribed and I have never heard anything back from emails (more than one) asking how to get info on who was on and what the subject matter.

[Flash]

David Icke about the attack at http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

The title of this thread is "TPV under attack". It may be my fault (hehe) as I am quite frustrated and feeling unhappy. My feelings are not of attack but glum disconnect as this station is not transparent and user friendly to me.

No matter when I tune in, what I am hearing is not very involving as it is heavy on politics (when I turn in) that I know not about and the people are not familiar. There is no place to go to "catch up". I am possibly in the minority? This was a great idea and I am sure some are extremely happy.

The concept of 24 hour streaming one channel media is very old and has not appealed to me in a long time. This has call in shows but that is not very interactive in a way that pulls people in immediately on tuning in. To have "live" is not nearly as important to me as having who/what and a way to connect. I wonder why they can't copy MSM with the blurbs of who's on at the bottom?

So, I did write. I never heard anything when I subscribed and I have never heard anything back from emails (more than one) asking how to get info on who was on and what the subject matter.

No you are not the only one Delight, for the exact same reasons. I know about none of the speakers, being in North America, I get the night streams with less interesting people I think, and there is not place where I can Watch, ableit later, what has been going on during the day or the weed.

I do not know whom the speakers are, I often have no idea about the topic, in fact, I would say that the reporters or interviewers lack skills in reminding us what it is about on a regular basis - for gosh sake, Kerry does better, even if and when aggravating at times.

So no, you are not the only one. Live Stream is not all, much more is needed and mostly basic information, the 6 questions: what where when who how and why, those are the basics in journalism. Neat to know when listening to something. The what, when and who are definitely missing. I know quite a few Young people fresh out of journalism school who would be glad to try doing it the correct way so that we can follow. Just give a shout for Young interns. Concordia University in Canada will be glad to provide I bet.

[Delight]

David Icke about the attack at http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

The title of this thread is "TPV under attack". It may be my fault (hehe) as I am quite frustrated and feeling unhappy. My feelings are not of attack but glum disconnect as this station is not transparent and user friendly to me.

No matter when I tune in, what I am hearing is not very involving as it is heavy on politics (when I turn in) that I know not about and the people are not familiar. There is no place to go to "catch up". I am possibly in the minority? This was a great idea and I am sure some are extremely happy.

The concept of 24 hour streaming one channel media is very old and has not appealed to me in a long time. This has call in shows but that is not very interactive in a way that pulls people in immediately on tuning in. To have "live" is not nearly as important to me as having who/what and a way to connect. I wonder why they can't copy MSM with the blurbs of who's on at the bottom?

So, I did write. I never heard anything when I subscribed and I have never heard anything back from emails (more than one) asking how to get info on who was on and what the subject matter.

No you are not the only one Delight, for the exact same reasons. I know about none of the speakers, being in North America, I get the night streams with less interesting people I think, and there is not place where I can Watch, ableit later, what has been going on during the day or the weed.

I do not know whom the speakers are, I often have no idea about the topic, in fact, I would say that the reporters or interviewers lack skills in reminding us what it is about on a regular basis - for gosh sake, Kerry does better, even if and when aggravating at times.

So no, you are not the only one. Live Stream is not all, much more is needed and mostly basic information, the 6 questions: what where when who how and why, those are the basics in journalism. Neat to know when listening to something. The what, when and who are definitely missing. I know quite a few Young people fresh out of journalism school who would be glad to try doing it the correct way so that we can follow. Just give a shout for Young interns. Concordia University in Canada will be glad to provide I bet.

Flash, Yes, that is exactly it, the need to have the basic journalistic model of communication and new blood.

I do hope something will take hold with TPV. Maybe someone from TPV will be assigned to review and modify the format before I stop listening all together (I as Jane Q Public who already has plenty of media available 24/7/365).

I am sorry to say this is a case of "it would be nice to have TPV" is much more gratifying than actually listening.

[bogeyman]

GCHQ, NSA and other members of the security services will be monitoring the broadcasts and know doubt the individuals who take part.

[Flash]

when I do "thepeoplevoice.tv" it sends me to Facebook and I have this message:


Attention!

This link might be malicious. Please follow it with care. En savoir plus sur la sécurité de votre compte.

Le lien auquel vous accédez : http://thepeoplesvoice.tv/

[avid]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/09/the-compartmentalisation-of-the-continents-the-peoples-voice/

The idea of this channel is to bring video and information from people all over the planet and broadcast it out in the same way. Get the continents talking to each other. I have been impressed by the breadth of their interests and by their courage. Whatever your take on David Icke is, the one thing I can’t ever see anyone wanting to argue is this statement: Remember Who You Are! How could that be a bad thing?

This channel is being technically challenged as we speak - the guest speakers are from all over the world - you may recognise a few as you listen, quite a few from the USA who are being 'hounded' and 'blocked' - even endangerment of their lives. They are so brave, have realisitic stuff to impart, and so we should give them the courtesy of audience - where they are 'enabled' to have it. Thank you for any researching from this post. The Peoples Voice is for US ALL!!! Let us support it!

[Delight]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/09/the-compartmentalisation-of-the-continents-the-peoples-voice/

The idea of this channel is to bring video and information from people all over the planet and broadcast it out in the same way. Get the continents talking to each other. I have been impressed by the breadth of their interests and by their courage. Whatever your take on David Icke is, the one thing I can’t ever see anyone wanting to argue is this statement: Remember Who You Are! How could that be a bad thing?

This channel is being technically challenged as we speak - the guest speakers are from all over the world - you may recognise a few as you listen, quite a few from the USA who are being 'hounded' and 'blocked' - even endangerment of their lives. They are so brave, have realisitic stuff to impart, and so we should give them the courtesy of audience - where they are 'enabled' to have it. Thank you for any researching from this post. The Peoples Voice is for US ALL!!! Let us support it!

Support for a system can include a "critique". Are we in the name of support to never critique a system offering itself as The People's Voice? So far and I tried to listen, it pushes me away. I came in as a sponsor. It has been a few weeks since they came on line. They do not communicate with people who send emails. How do they demonstrate care for the listener's needs and show gratitude to the subscriber if not by attention? In an economy based on appreciation, they have been way off the mark.

What good does it do to have a station that is unattractive for the very savvy consumer of information that is their target audience? Ones who with a phone can dial up almost anything? This is the 21st century and TPV is self defeating IMO and what is the help if we just stay silent because it is a "good idea" in principle.

[AwakeInADream]

Thanks for drawing my attention to The Peoples Voice ExoMatrix!:) I didn't realize it was up and running yet. As to the content, so far I'm undecided. Heres hoping it will get better as time passes. I'll give it a chance.:)

Oh yes, and I do believe it was down for hours, a few days back. Hackers. :(

[DeDukshyn]

Funny -- from IE10 -- the link Exo gave tries to go via a FB page which is completely unreachable - 500 error, with Tor I get a warning for a malicious page (the facebook page) with a recommendation to not visit this page. If I countinue past this, I finally get to the Peoples Voice -NON FB page which has no malicious code or viruses as far as I can tell.

The other links work for me ok.

EDIT: This link -- http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthepeoplesvoice.tv%2F&h=hAQGzb3E-&enc=AZOcQMqV-RpltvJvemlpvhdVMsgMEVe4pRg3ZvJZdwnHLMaZFgUcIT8xCWqprKzrxVIkQTcaeRknvTbS1MvBFfrG2FH1F2xq8vD75NovKRyl5 90Jbnt8b95PqPVp2gcHqIrCxSi-Yd35h73dH1q9EGly&s=1"]http://thepeoplesvoice.tv/

(as posted by Exomatrix) is bad -- if you go straight to http://thepeoplesvoice.tv/, everything is peachy.

[ExomatrixTV]

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/davidlcke-com-and-the-peoples-voice-taken-down-at-the-same-time-yesterday-was-it-something-we-said/

[Cidersomerset]

Who is really David Icke ? part 1/2


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Who is David Icke? Perception Deception, Ayawaska - part 2

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[Swan]

David Icke about the attack at http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

The title of this thread is "TPV under attack". It may be my fault (hehe) as I am quite frustrated and feeling unhappy. My feelings are not of attack but glum disconnect as this station is not transparent and user friendly to me.

No matter when I tune in, what I am hearing is not very involving as it is heavy on politics (when I turn in) that I know not about and the people are not familiar. There is no place to go to "catch up". I am possibly in the minority? This was a great idea and I am sure some are extremely happy.

The concept of 24 hour streaming one channel media is very old and has not appealed to me in a long time. This has call in shows but that is not very interactive in a way that pulls people in immediately on tuning in. To have "live" is not nearly as important to me as having who/what and a way to connect. I wonder why they can't copy MSM with the blurbs of who's on at the bottom?

So, I did write. I never heard anything when I subscribed and I have never heard anything back from emails (more than one) asking how to get info on who was on and what the subject matter.

No you are not the only one Delight, for the exact same reasons. I know about none of the speakers, being in North America, I get the night streams with less interesting people I think, and there is not place where I can Watch, ableit later, what has been going on during the day or the weed.

I do not know whom the speakers are, I often have no idea about the topic, in fact, I would say that the reporters or interviewers lack skills in reminding us what it is about on a regular basis - for gosh sake, Kerry does better, even if and when aggravating at times.

So no, you are not the only one. Live Stream is not all, much more is needed and mostly basic information, the 6 questions: what where when who how and why, those are the basics in journalism. Neat to know when listening to something. The what, when and who are definitely missing. I know quite a few Young people fresh out of journalism school who would be glad to try doing it the correct way so that we can follow. Just give a shout for Young interns. Concordia University in Canada will be glad to provide I bet.

Flash, Yes, that is exactly it, the need to have the basic journalistic model of communication and new blood.

I do hope something will take hold with TPV. Maybe someone from TPV will be assigned to review and modify the format before I stop listening all together (I as Jane Q Public who already has plenty of media available 24/7/365).

I am sorry to say this is a case of "it would be nice to have TPV" is much more gratifying than actually listening.

I am sure TPV welcomes suggestions how to improve. As always...if suggestions are given with an open heart, they might be helpful.

I too have emailed a couple of suggestions for improvements...in the spirit of " you are doing a fantastic job". It didn´t occur to me to expect an answer since I presume that everyone is working overtime with the channel. Actually I might even have felt a bit miffed if my donated money was paying someone to answer emails, instead of creating the programs.

@ Flash: TPV is trying NOT to do "normal" journalism ie simplifying, creating a story, creating an angle. I agree that it would help to have a name beneath the interviewee, but I very much appreciate the fact that there is no finished story being served. This is more like listening in to an interesting conversation. So, although there is room for improvement, I very much hope they continue not doing this the "correct" way.

So far I have only really watched the Rickie Allen show, and I think he is a great journalist. Calm, considerate, to the point. And from what I´ve seen of Sonja Poulton, she seems fabulous.

But it seems TPV won´t be able to continue for much longer anyway, since donations are lacking. Maybe something much better will take their place.

[Flash]

David Icke about the attack at http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

The title of this thread is "TPV under attack". It may be my fault (hehe) as I am quite frustrated and feeling unhappy. My feelings are not of attack but glum disconnect as this station is not transparent and user friendly to me.

No matter when I tune in, what I am hearing is not very involving as it is heavy on politics (when I turn in) that I know not about and the people are not familiar. There is no place to go to "catch up". I am possibly in the minority? This was a great idea and I am sure some are extremely happy.

The concept of 24 hour streaming one channel media is very old and has not appealed to me in a long time. This has call in shows but that is not very interactive in a way that pulls people in immediately on tuning in. To have "live" is not nearly as important to me as having who/what and a way to connect. I wonder why they can't copy MSM with the blurbs of who's on at the bottom?

So, I did write. I never heard anything when I subscribed and I have never heard anything back from emails (more than one) asking how to get info on who was on and what the subject matter.

No you are not the only one Delight, for the exact same reasons. I know about none of the speakers, being in North America, I get the night streams with less interesting people I think, and there is not place where I can Watch, ableit later, what has been going on during the day or the weed.

I do not know whom the speakers are, I often have no idea about the topic, in fact, I would say that the reporters or interviewers lack skills in reminding us what it is about on a regular basis - for gosh sake, Kerry does better, even if and when aggravating at times.

So no, you are not the only one. Live Stream is not all, much more is needed and mostly basic information, the 6 questions: what where when who how and why, those are the basics in journalism. Neat to know when listening to something. The what, when and who are definitely missing. I know quite a few Young people fresh out of journalism school who would be glad to try doing it the correct way so that we can follow. Just give a shout for Young interns. Concordia University in Canada will be glad to provide I bet.

Flash, Yes, that is exactly it, the need to have the basic journalistic model of communication and new blood.

I do hope something will take hold with TPV. Maybe someone from TPV will be assigned to review and modify the format before I stop listening all together (I as Jane Q Public who already has plenty of media available 24/7/365).

I am sorry to say this is a case of "it would be nice to have TPV" is much more gratifying than actually listening.

I am sure TPV welcomes suggestions how to improve. As always...if suggestions are given with an open heart, they might be helpful.

I too have emailed a couple of suggestions for improvements...in the spirit of " you are doing a fantastic job". It didn´t occur to me to expect an answer since I presume that everyone is working overtime with the channel. Actually I might even have felt a bit miffed if my donated money was paying someone to answer emails, instead of creating the programs.

@ Flash: TPV is trying NOT to do "normal" journalism ie simplifying, creating a story, creating an angle. I agree that it would help to have a name beneath the interviewee, but I very much appreciate the fact that there is no finished story being served. This is more like listening in to an interesting conversation. So, although there is room for improvement, I very much hope they continue not doing this the "correct" way.

So far I have only really watched the Rickie Allen show, and I think he is a great journalist. Calm, considerate, to the point. And from what I´ve seen of Sonja Poulton, she seems fabulous.

But it seems TPV won´t be able to continue for much longer anyway, since donations are lacking. Maybe something much better will take their place.

I understand the open ended interviews as in a chat session or a regular conversation. However, the 6 questions format remains. If I plug in the show in the middle, I have no single cue about what is going on, who is the speaker, what is the topic, nothing. Ouf, this is asking from me a wide imagination to be able to follow. Same thing with interviewee, if we do not have a resume of who they are and what they do, we cannot even know if we are interested into listening.

And, and, and, I cannot relisten to the show. I don't know the title nor the names of people in it. I don't know if there is reruns and when or if it is accessible in a recorded fashion.

This is not "the correct way" as in regular journalism I am talking about, I am talking about "the way to be understood within communication parameters" that are usually thought in journalism schools, and in psychology.

I have done lots of présentations Under different formats in my life and when I want to be understood, I use a communication format that is understandable by everyone worldwide. Very simple. Often interviewee do not have this in mind, then it is the presenter's job to recoup the information and make it coherent.

Bill does it very well, yet he is not a journalist, Kerry does it too while inputting a lot of her own and cutting off the interviewee, but at least we know what the topic is and there is a thread to the conversation, Kimberly our member does it right too. This is not that withchy.

As per the screen, name, topic, some books and other referals in the bottom of the screen would help, as is done in mainstream, not to be mainstream but just to help the listener to be able to listen. Communication Tools.

Have you ever seen a slide presentation without headings????? No. This is what I am talking about.

But hey, if simple comments like mine have to be discussed and challenged, well, I won't give. Those are suggestion from listeners who are getting a bit fed up. If our suggestions do not cross, well, we will stop listening at some point. I do not want to criticise, I just want to tell what I feel as a listener and what I see. Right or wrong, I do not mind about this. I do not control the show and do not intend to.

There is surely other ways to answer to basic communication challenges that I have not thought of, and good if it helps.

DONATIONS ARE LACKING BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT ATTRACT US, FROM HERE, US THEIR NATURAL POOL OF LISTENERS. CLEAR ENOUGH.

JUST READ THE COMMENTS AND CORRECT THE WAYS.

[Swan]

I support them. Because I can see the potential.

[Realeyes]

I watched several hours of the people's voice yesterday.

Sonia's show was excellent last night. For instance covering the latest scoop from a reporter who had attended parliament that day listening to Ian Duncan's address who strategically dodged the real questions about how many vulnerable people have had their death's hastened from all the benefit cuts in the UK. It is great to see TPV is covering such topics as these, as most UK citizen's only hear the government's spin that the disabled, unemployed and mentally challenge people are lazy scroungers blah, blah - and wall paper overs the terrible poverty and suffering in this country with so many now losing their homes due to the bedroom tax or sudden job loss and forced to move to another area away from family, friends (their support). And the amount of UK pensioners and vulnerable that are committing suicide because of these many benefit changes is heartbreaking.

Then there was 2 hours of David Icke - he was absolutely brilliant, articulate and I was really impressed with how he strung together in simple terms for everyone to understand the complexities of this reality, joining the dots etc. I am hoping this will go up on youtube, as I would very much like to listen to David's talk again.

I wish all the very best to everyone who is involved working so hard to make The People's Voice a reality - this is so needed and appreciated - a great vision that will benefit humanity's awakening.

Afterthought: Much of what I have heard on the people's voice so far are topics that have been discussed here on PA over the years. Yet I am very happy to listen to it again, actually rather excitedly knowing there will be many around the world watching this and hearing such information for the first time!!! There is an energy movement of information........

[Soulboy]

In part 2 he talks about Credo Mutwa being in his 90s and the interview is from this December. I thought I had heard repeatedly that the man had passed away. Is that not the case?

[Camilo]

Buzzsaw : David Icke: Global Collapse, Reptilians and The Realm of the Unseen

http://youtu.be/GVRodBb1eO4 (39 min. video)

Published on Oct 27, 2013

Reptilians, Illuminati, and the global energetic conspiracy to enslave humanity through and low-frequency energy is discussed with David Icke. He explains how the alternative media has become another version of thought police, and how the perceivable world is just a minuscule piece of the puzzle of existence to Sean Stone in this Buzzsaw interview. The totalitarian tip-toe towards totalitarianism and a one world-government, plus how America is being used to destroy itself in service of a single global state are detailed in depth with Icke.

[GreenGuy]

I was going to start a thread of the same name - Global Collapse - so I'll offer my comments here. I have two.

First of all, let's not lose sight of the fact that global economic and political collapse is in the end a GOOD THING. The current systems are too rich and powerful to dismantle without enormous loss of life and calamities of every kind. Until they collapse beneath their own bloated weight - which is exactly what's happening in the United States - there is simply NO CHANCE of replacing them with something better. Yes, there will be loss of life and enormous hardship, but a lot of that we brought on ourselves by becoming stupid and selfish. The piper always gets his vig. In the end we have the potential for a real golden age.

My second train of thought has to do with globalism. We say it like it's a bad thing, and in the form it's currently taking shape, it is. However, globalism is the thrust of history. We began as clans and tribes, and moved into villages and then cities. City-states became nations. Nations became empires. Empires became treaty organizations. The general trend has never moved in the other direction. So rather than quaking in our boots over the prospect of globalism, let's contemplate what it can mean for humanity and the planet.

Could we actually achieve a planet-wide, peaceful society with unified goals and policies? Of course we could, and it's a noble undertaking. There is no need for people to abandon their heritage, their language, their customs - only for respect for others and admiration of our own diversity. We need a worldwide auxiliary language so that people can communicate everywhere - which we almost have anyway in English or Spanish, but it could be Esperanto or even Chinese. We need universal education with a view toward truth-searching, not indoctrination. We need universal health care instead of disease management. Unless we achieve a worldwide civilization, how can we address earth-friendly technology that benefits all forms of life? How can we end pointless wars? How can we avoid the misery and suffering that has characterized human civilization from the first?

[Robin]

One great point that David Icke brings up in this video, which I highly agree with, is the fact that people have a natural tendency to "stick their heads in the sand" when confronted with information that does not validate their beliefs or require them to leave their comfort zone.

I choose to look at things from a Big Picture perspective. I find it appalling that so many people, including many from the Alternative side, choose to devote their attention to one single conspiracy but refuse to research or even acknowledge other conspiracies. For instance, there is a large separation between global conspiracies (i.e. 9/11 and the Illuminati) and interdimensional conspiracies (i.e. Reptilians and mind control).

Most people I hear in the truth movement focus on global conspiracies that are tangible, but as David Icke says, scoff at other conspiracy theorists for their research. How are the people doing the criticizing any different than the Mainstream Media who scoff at all conspiracies? As David puts it, it's a bunch of bullocks.

I understand that interdimensional conspiracies are difficult to grasp and don't harbor as much evidence, but that does not mean that we should turn our heads away form them. Realistically, the global conspiracies do not make sense without factoring in interdimensional conspiracies.

As much as I appreciate everybody on Avalon, I still see this mindset prevail in many discussions. There seems to be a division between "thinkers" and "feelers". I consider myself to have a good balance between thinking and feeling, and I hope that the feelers on the forum do their best to confront this information head on. Choosing to ignore it does not make it dissapear. But also, I encourage the thinkers to feel empathy, optimism, and hope for the world.

I talk to friends all the time who are awake and aware, but if I challenge another one of their beliefs (i.e. corruption of Islam and other religions) they turn their head away because their beliefs are not being validated.

I choose not to follow truth researchers unless they acknowledge the Big Picture, like Bill Ryan, David Icke, and others. Because if they refuse to look at the Big Picture, then they only have part of the story! What they are saying is meaningful, however, lacks other puzzle pieces that allow us to discern the full scope of coming events. It's good to see that Alex Jones and others are starting to open their eyes to some heavier conspiracies.

[mahalall]

feeling the thoughts david icke, through the expansion of love comes the smile that this will change-what a compasssionate place to be, gosh! can't help but admire his old soul.

[CD7]

I choose not to follow truth researchers unless they acknowledge the Big Picture, like Bill Ryan, David Icke, and others. Because if they refuse to look at the Big Picture, then they only have part of the story! What they are saying is meaningful, however, lacks other puzzle pieces that allow us to discern the full scope of coming events. It's good to see that Alex Jones and others are starting to open their eyes to some heavier conspiracies.




If they only have pieces of the puzzle and then refuse to see the big picture...? Im a little puzzled? I suppose it would make sense for someone to refuse the big picture if they only see pieces...so to acknowledge a Big Picture that they do not fully see would make sense?

Acknowledging the "Big picture" usually means a person believes something that someone/organization/group are telling them to believe...this has been my experience in the alternative community

It seems so rare that anyone experiences any type of "IN" into the Big Picture...and who even knows if this rare person is telling the Truth? unless someone experiences it for themselves? I do not actually know any 'IN' The Big Picture people...

Most ALL are going on conjecture and what Others are telling them is the Big Picture....rarely do any of us "truthseekers" actually experience it and know it for ourselves ....The only ones claiming such feats of knowledge of the Big Picture are the ones on the screens--all of em-- (in my experience)

Samwise do u know anyone personally or experienced all there is to know about the Big Picture? Do u just listen to what others say?

[Robin]

I choose not to follow truth researchers unless they acknowledge the Big Picture, like Bill Ryan, David Icke, and others. Because if they refuse to look at the Big Picture, then they only have part of the story! What they are saying is meaningful, however, lacks other puzzle pieces that allow us to discern the full scope of coming events. It's good to see that Alex Jones and others are starting to open their eyes to some heavier conspiracies.




If they only have pieces of the puzzle and then refuse to see the big picture...? Im a little puzzled? I suppose it would make sense for someone to refuse the big picture if they only see pieces...so to acknowledge a Big Picture that they do not fully see would make sense?

Acknowledging the "Big picture" usually means a person believes something that someone/organization/group are telling them to believe...this has been my experience in the alternative community

It seems so rare that anyone experiences any type of "IN" into the Big Picture...and who even knows if this rare person is telling the Truth? unless someone experiences it for themselves? I do not actually know any 'IN' The Big Picture people...

Most ALL are going on conjecture and what Others are telling them is the Big Picture....rarely do any of us "truthseekers" actually experience it and know it for ourselves ....The only ones claiming such feats of knowledge of the Big Picture are the ones on the screens--all of em-- (in my experience)

Samwise do u know anyone personally or experienced all there is to know about the Big Picture? Do u just listen to what others say?

I think you misunderstood what I was saying, CD7. I'm talking about folks--whether they are contactees, abductees, researchers, whistleblowers, or the average person--who only focus on one specific area without keeping an open mind to other possibilties.

There is a big difference between people who:

purposely have a limited lense in which they view information, because of ignorance or apathy, not acknowledging something because of a lack of validation for their beliefs, or it makes them uncomfortably or over-stressed, anxious, scared, or angry.
do not give their attention towards other information because they prefer to stay in their realm of expertise or experience...because it is simply what they know.
do not give attention to other subjects because they want to retain their credibility.

The first example would be the average person in this world, but also conspiracy theorists such as Jesse Ventura, who refuses to acknowledge David Icke's Reptilian theory because of its intangibility.

The second example would be Karen Hudes, who is a World Bank whistleblower who has a limited, though important, reference of expertise on conspiracies.

The third example would be, for example, Richard Dolan, who focuses his research strictly on the UFO phenomenon. Undoubetdly he has personal opinions on interdimensional theories, such as Reptilians, but he chooses to focus his attention on UFOs because of the great body of evidence and for the rather simple nature of the conspiracy. The general public can only handle so much, and I think he focuses solely on UFOs to provide a segway for people to accept other theories, to protect his reputation as a researcher who seeks pure evidence, and because he wants to compile reliable evidence to stir an awakening of government lies (Congress wouldn't take him seriously if he started talking about reptilians...think about it!)

When I say that I look at the Big Picture, I am not saying that I am special or have insider information...but that I keep an open mind and am not quick to dismiss other ideas. If my personal theories are disproven, I am more than glad to open my mind to other possibilities without remorse. It is my duty as a man of science and a human being.

If something makes me scared or anxious, I find my inner peace and take it head on! If it makes me anxious, then perhaps I'll take a few days to hash the information out in my brain and find what is in it that I can use to benefit myself and others. Even if the truth is daunting...it is still the truth. We can no longer hide behind a door because we are uncomfortable...that has gotten humanity into too much trouble as it is. It is time to confront our inner demons and to take our power back.

It is wise not to cling to old paradigms because they simply make us comfortable or validate our beliefs that we have held since childhood.

It is OK to dismiss the existence of Reptilians, for example, as long as you take the time to do your own research instead of dismissing the theory coldly. If the evidence, whether tangible or intangible (based solely off of what somebody says, like Simon Parkes here on Avalon) does not satisfy your criteria for accepting something as true, or potential to have some form of truth in it, then so be it!

At least you've done your homework whilst keeping an open mind. That's what truly matters.

:)

[CD7]

The first example would be the average person in this world, but also conspiracy theorists such as Jesse Ventura, who refuses to acknowledge David Icke's Reptilian theory because of its intangibility.

The second example would be Karen Hudes, who is a World Bank whistleblower who has a limited, though important, reference of expertise on conspiracies.


No I do not think there was a misunderstanding....I would still say wht I said in the first post....However I see how your comparing those who are close to the "know" and how each may not agree with the other or deny their claims....I personally don't have an opinion on these people whom I don't know and wouldn't begin to analyze their thoughts and why they agree or disagree with others...


all in all my comment was not personal to you....just addressing an issue about 'knowledge' and acknowledgement about what others are saying WITHOUT having Experienced it for themselves

[mahalall]

We can recognise that the have nots, which are ever increasing in numbers, are suffering at the multitude of overt-covert and sutble abuses of their spirits.

but we must also recognise that the imposers of the suffering are also being abused. Abused by their addiction and lust for more. So much so that we gain the insight that the realms of the archons is a place of misery that they must long to evolve from.

[Mulder]

I'm listening to the interview now - so far I'm not finding it very useful - more of the same about Jesse Ventura run-in, thinking out of the box, non-human entities controlling us. I never heard about the collapse - what did David say about this?