(Scientific) Evidence for What's Coming

[bashi]

Petroglyphs are formed by scatching away the weathered surface of a rock, to depict something by using the different colours/hues of the underlying rock. It’s like writing on stone.
The here relevant petroglyphs are found only at particular areas on Earth:


http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7282/globe1.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/globe1.jpg/)

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6145/globe2.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/globe2.jpg/)



Of course you will have to have a landscape with open rocks to make a petroglyph, but that alone is not enough to explain the pattern of petroglyphs. There seems to exist areas where much more carvings are, while in certain areas there are virtually none in relevance to the Birkeland elements, for example the Himalayas.



If really unique Birkeland elements could be found in these petroglyphs, then that would be a very compelling evidence that ancient settlers/civilisations experienced this “shortcut” between Earth and Sun.

Here pictograms from different places all over the world:


http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4556/squattermanpetro.png (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/squattermanpetro.png/)

(http://img299.imageshack.us/i/squatterman3.jpg/)



These petroglyphs are showing a striking resemblance with energetic plasmatic currents. Actually this particular pattern is so widespread all over the world, that archaeologists gave it a separate name: “The squatter Man”. They, of course, can not explain the two dots on both sides of the waist of the man. But these dots are making a hell of a difference.


Other typical Birkeland elements are here:




http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9117/zpinch3.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/zpinch3.jpg/)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3851/photo36149.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/photo36149.jpg/)







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[bashi]

Now, how would it look like, if an observer would stand on the globe of above experiment, while it is been electrified?

A computer simulation for the view of an observer on the globe at 45° latitude (simulating the view of a human on Earth`s surface at 45° latitude) was created:



http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6532/56pinchelectric.png (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/56pinchelectric.png/)

Its an oblique view into the auroral plasma columns from the 45° coordinates.



Hhere are Northern hemisphere petroglyphs from the Columbia River Basin at 45.65◦ N, 121.95◦ W :



http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2162/56pinchpetro1.png (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/56pinchpetro1.png/)

and

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9705/56pinchpetro2.png (http://img179.imageshack.us/i/56pinchpetro2.png/)



All I can say is: Kudos to our ancient reporter who was being able to carry the message through time….



Much of this info is from the work of:

Anthony L. Peratt, Fellow, IEEE, John McGovern, Alfred H. Qöyawayma, Life Member, IEEE,
Marinus Anthony Van der Sluijs, and Mathias G. Peratt, Member, IEEE
“Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity”


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[Swami]

Its all to be found in here......
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#
Thanks m, synchronisties everwhere these days.......

[morguana]

anyone that has watched thunderbolts may wish to read this.......


New J. Phys. 11 (2009) 063015
doi:10.1088/1367-2630/11/6/063015

Secular variation of the Earth's magnetic field: induced by the ocean flow?

Gregory Ryskin

Robert R McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science, Northwestern University, Evanston, IL 60208, USA

E-mail: ryskin@northwestern.edu

Received 12 March 2009
Published 12 June 2009

Abstract. Secular variation of the Earth's main magnetic field is believed to originate in the Earth's core. (The main field is operationally defined as comprising spherical harmonics of degree l≤10.) I propose a different mechanism of secular variation: ocean water being a conductor of electricity, the magnetic field induced by the ocean as it flows through the Earth's main field may depend on time and manifest itself globally as secular variation. This proposal is supported by calculation of secular variation using the induction equation of magnetohydrodynamics, the observed main field and the ocean flow field. The predicted secular variation is in rough agreement with that observed. Additional support is provided by the striking temporal correlation (hitherto unsuspected) between the intensity of the North Atlantic oceanic circulation and the rate of secular variation in Western Europe; this explains, in particular, the geomagnetic jerks, and the recently discovered correlation between secular variation and climate. Spatial correlation between ocean currents and secular variation is also strong.

Contents

* 1. Introduction
* 2. The governing equations
* 3. A model problem: advection and diffusion of solute in slow flow
* 4. Formulation of the problem in physical terms
* 5. Formulation of the problem in mathematical terms
* 6. Numerical computation
* 7. Numerical results and comparison with IGRF
* 8. Year-to-year changes in secular variation: analysis of data
* 9. Some order-of-magnitude estimates and spatial correlations
* 10. Why the Earth's magnetic moment changes slowly
* 11. Conclusions
* Acknowledgments
* References

http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/11/6/063015/fulltext

enjoy!!!

some light background reading on fluid dynamics, dynamo theory
http://www.psc.edu/science/glatzmaier.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/earth_poles_040407.html
http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~glatz/pub/glatzmaier_ogden_clune_geomon_2004.pdf
http://www.origins.org/articles/ross_amazingdynamo.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527504.400-shields-down-earths-mag-field-may-drop-in-a-flash.html
http://www.pnas.org/content/94/24/12742.full

[winnasboy]

bashi, Swami and morguana,
Many thanks for your efforts to inform us all.
I find all this to be fascinating.

[bashi]

The Sun is in an unusual coma.
There are no recorded major CMEs for nearly a month :

http://sidc.oma.be/cactus/out/latestCMEs.html


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[bashi]

The suns mag field near Earth has changed its direction yesterday at around 20:00 UTC, and is now opposite to Earth`s field. This causes gaps inside the protective mag shield and makes Earth more vulnerable to geomagnetic storms (GS).

The Auroral Electrojet (AE) has immediately picked up and is now 1000 times stronger than at 18:00 UTC. It depicts the ionospheric currents. See here:



http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/532/aeidx.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/aeidx.jpg/)


This AE has the same signature like during a GS, which is going on right now.
But the solar wind at present is virtually non existent. It is slow and has a density of less than 0.1 protons/cbm.
This is the time when Earth is most vulnerable to GS.

If an M- or X-class CME with the same mag orientation would be hitting now, then we would be in serious trouble.

Ps: This is NOT a mag pole reversal of the Sun; just a temporary direction shift of its mag field near the Earth.


link: http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html

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[bashi]

Just for fun:

Here the CME of the 2003 Geomagnetic Superstorm:




http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7365/cmec3big.gif (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/cmec3big.gif/)

[MorningSong]

Yes, Bashi! This is what the Auroras look like right now:

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/gif/pmapNst.gif

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/gif/pmapSst.gif

Take a look at what it has been for the last 2-3 days here:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/pmap/Plots.html

And here's the magnetophase (awesome!):

http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/images/test_1.20100529115102.jpg

I do believe this ties in to my post at:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1310-The-Day-Solar-Wind-Disappeared-2

[bashi]

I do believe this ties in to my post at:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1310-The-Day-Solar-Wind-Disappeared-2

It is possible.
But i think it has more to do with the mag field flip, and not with the subsided sun-wind. Are we having always a mag. storm when the sun-wind subsides?


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[bashi]

Regarding CMEs:

It seems that the reference site mentioned earlier is not any more processing data.
I had not cross-checked before stating that there were no CMEs for nearly month. This was obviously not correct.
See this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?286-Something-Really-BIG-is-Going-on-With-The-Sun&p=22682&viewfull=1#post22682

But the present geomag. storm is not caused by a CME.

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[MorningSong]

From http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html


IB. Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be very
low.

IIA. Geophysical Activity Summary 27/2100Z to 28/2100Z:
The geomagnetic field has been quiet to unsettled. An interplanetary
shock was observed at the ACE spacecraft at 28/0203Z. Boulder
magnetometer observed a 33 nT sudden impulse at 28/0259Z, the
activity is most likely due to the arrival of the CME observed on
May 23.

IIB. Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is
expected to be at predominately unsettled levels with a chance for
active periods on day one (29 May) as the CMEs from 23-24 May
continue to be geo-effective. Unsettled to active levels are likely
are on days two and three (30-31 May) due to the arrival of a
recurrent coronal hole high speed stream. In addition, there is a
slight chance for isolated minor storm periods during the high speed
stream interval.



@Bashi: It did happen in 1999, which supprised researchers. It probably has happened before and after that. I think that it is happening again.

Fortunately, the sun is quiet and, from the info I have found in the various sun-monitoring sites, the sun should remain calm for the next 3-5 days.

[bashi]

From http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/forecast.html

@Bashi: It did happen in 1999, which supprised researchers. It probably has happened before and after that. I think that it is happening again.



The sun-wind ceased many times from 1999 till now. Did it have always this effect?

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[MorningSong]

I would assume that it does not always do this. Something outside of our comprehension, or at least that is not being told, causes this.

I would like to know what that missing element of the equation is. But I am just an observer of what data is out there for us wee ones.

[bashi]

The geomag strom on the 29th produced auroras as far south as to Wisconsin:




http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6083/wisconsinaurora.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/wisconsinaurora.jpg/)

Wisconsin Northern Light

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[bashi]

The National Space Weather Program (NSWP) Council is organizing the next Space Weather Enterprise Forum scheduled for June 8, 2010.
Here an excerpt from the program:

"As we approach the next peak of solar activity expected in 2013, our nation faces multiplying uncertainties from increasing reliance on space weather-affected technologies for communication, navigation, security, and other activities, many of which underpin our national infrastructure and economy.

Planned Sessions:

Critical Infrastructure Support: We depend on critical systems and activities affected by space weather, such as the electric power grid, communications, positioning and navigation, and national security. These effects must be understood, mitigation actions developed, and acceptable levels of risk determined to build and support an informed and resilient society. "


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[bashi]

It seems that the solar system is about to enter a new area of space: The Local Bubble.

"Is the Sun going to enter soon a million-degree galactic cloud of interstellar gas? Scientists from the Space Research Centre of the Polish Academy of Sciences, Los Alamos Labs, Southwest Research Institute, and Boston University suggest that the Ribbon of enhanced emissions of Energetic Neutral Atoms, discovered last year by a NASA Small Explorer satellite IBEX, could be explained by a geometric effect coming up because of approach of the Sun to the boundary between the Local Cloud of interstellar gas and another cloud of a very hot gas called the Local Bubble. If this hypothesis is correct, IBEX is catching matter from a hot neighboring interstellar cloud, which the Sun might enter in a hundred years."



http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6625/cbk10052401bfot01m.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/i/cbk10052401bfot01m.jpg/)




"The team of Polish and US scientists suggests that the Ribbon ENA are born by electrical charge exchange between the atoms which “evaporate” from the Local Interstellar Cloud into the nearby Local Bubble of a very hot and fully ionized gas. The Local Bubble is probably a remnant of a series of supernova explosions that occurred a few million years ago and thus is not only very hot (at least million degree Kelvin), but also turbulent."

"The Local Cloud and the Local Bubble might be not within a few light years from the Sun, as it was believed earlier, but within just a thousand of astronomical units, a thousand-fold closer. This might mean that the Solar System could enter the million-degree Local Bubble cloud as early as the next century."



source: http://www.physorg.com/news194079881.html
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[Nebula]

Although i haven't read this whole thread, i kinda glanced and there is a tremendous amount of info on Sickscent's thread on GLP (thank you much Sickscent n friends) ...wow what a read this is going to be. And also thank you to NorthernSanctuary for point us there.

[Nebula]

Bashi.. thanks for the great pics above. :)

[Nebula]

http://media.masslive.com/republican/photo/-a5e28455c155b5e9_custom_665xauto.jpg

This image provided Wednesday, April 21, 2010 by NASA shows an eruptive prominence blasting away from the sun, upper left, March 30, 2010 observed by the Solar Dynamics Observatory satellite. NASA on Wednesday unveiled the first images from the new satellite designed to predict disruptive solar storms, and scientists say they're already learning new things. (AP Photo/NASA)

[MorningSong]

Here's another article with specific links to the research done on the "ribbon" and the "local bubble":


Study sheds light on origins of mysterious space ribbon

[Date: 2010-05-26]

Scientists in Poland and the US have put forward a novel explanation for the mysterious ribbon-like structure running around our Solar System. Writing in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, they explain that the ribbon could mark the boundary between the cooler Local Cloud of interstellar gas and another cloud of extremely hot gas known as the Local Bubble. Furthermore, if the scientists are correct, the Sun will enter the Local Bubble in around 100 years.

This comes as a surprise, as researchers had previously thought that the boundary between the Local Cloud and the Local Bubble was further away.

'We observe the ribbon because the Sun is approaching a boundary between our Local Cloud of interstellar gas and another cloud of very hot and turbulent gas,' explained Professor Stan Grzedzielski of the Space Research Centre at the Polish Academy of Sciences, who led the research. According to Professor Grzedzielski, this is nothing unusual, as the Sun regularly moves through different clouds of interstellar gas.

As the Sun moves into the hotter cloud, the heliosphere will most likely shrink a little, causing levels of cosmic radiation to rise slightly. The heliosphere is a kind of 'bubble' in which the solar wind offers protection against damaging cosmic rays. 'Perhaps future generations will have to learn how to better harden their space hardware against stronger radiation,' Professor Grzedzielski commented.

The peculiar space ribbon under investigation in this study was discovered by NASA's IBEX (Interstellar Boundary Explorer) spacecraft last year. IBEX was launched in 2008 with the mission of exploring the boundary between the heliosphere and interstellar space.

cont....

http://cordis.europa.eu/fetch?CALLER=EN_NEWS&ACTION=D&SESSION=&RCN=32138

[jasontorque]

The following was in todays Telegraph in the UK: 'Nasa scientists braced for 'solar tsunami' to hit earth'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7923069/Nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.html

Cause for any concern?

[bashi]

I think: NO
I dont see anything big or special in this CME. From what i saw - it does let me sleep in peace. In my opinion its just a media hype.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Just a thought ~ since we get our energy from the sun, how would it be if we just looked at it as a wonderful personal power surge of energy. Yipee, at my age, what a blessing!!!!!!!!

Love, Ba-ba-Ra

[onawah]

I am new to this thread and don't mean to highjack it, but I would be interesting in knowing what you all think of the newest info on the General Discussion thread "Pole Shift, Planet X due?" (though the new info is not about Planet X, but about G1.9, new evidence and how the Russians and some astronomers in Spain have interpreted it.)
Thanks!

[bashi]

The solar "personal power surge of energy" has come and passed. It was quite strong, but several categories below REALLY SCARY.
Anyhow, any incoming reports about blown personal fuses? ;)

[bashi]

I am new to this thread and don't mean to highjack it, but I would be interesting in knowing what you all think of the newest info on the General Discussion thread "Pole Shift, Planet X due?" (though the new info is not about Planet X, but about G1.9, new evidence and how the Russians and some astronomers in Spain have interpreted it.)
Thanks!

Link......?

[onawah]

The link to the thread is
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?249-Pole-Shift-...-Planet-X-Due/page5
the relevant link is in post #50

[bashi]

An M-class flare from sunspot Nr. 1093 ...

[bashi]

Here now some comparision of data, so that everybody can place the CME of 3rd August into context:

In this post

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?540-(Scientific)-Evidence-for-What-s-Coming&p=9437&viewfull=1#post9437

it is mentioned that the mag. variation of Earths field, which was reponsible for the 1989 power-outage in Quebec, was about 480 nT.

Here now NOOA about the recent CME:

"A geomagnetic sudden impulse (SI) of 21 nT was observed at Boulder at 03/1741Z which was preceded by an interplanetary shock at ACE at 03/1656Z. Both effects were due to the arrival of a CME associated with the long duration C3 flare on 01 August."

link: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/weekly/pdf/prf1823.pdf

It shows that the CME was really much too weak to be something special.
NASA is supposed to know that also, even before it hit Earth, but still they let the MSM run their scare propaganda.
Does somebody intends to grind our attention to zero by hypeing false alarms?

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[MorningSong]

Now I may have missed this info, but I just found out about Sickscent's (Avalon Memeber and source for the Boeing whistleblower mentioned in the OP of this thread as well as the OP here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?78-Solar-Activity-Reports-and-Discussions) site:

http://sickscent.blogspot.com/p/spiritual-connections.html

And BTW, more MSM news on Space weather warnings:


Massive solar storm to hit Earth in 2012 with 'force of 100m bombs'

http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20100826/981/tsc-massive-solar-storm-to-hit-earth-in_1.html

[MorningSong]

New from IBEX and "the ribbon":

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/63914/description/First_it%E2%80%99s_there%2C_then_it%E2%80%99s_knot


First it’s there, then it’s knot
Mysterious tangle of atoms at the solar system’s edge disappears
By Ron Cowen
Web edition : Thursday, September 30th, 2010

A puzzling knot of atoms at the edge of the solar system is fading, leaving space physicists with an even gnarlier mystery to unravel about the outer boundary of the heliosphere, where the vast bubble in which the solar system resides meets up with interstellar space.

Researchers reported last year that NASA’s Interstellar Boundary Explorer, or IBEX, spacecraft had discovered the knot — the densest part of an equally unexpected narrow ribbon of neutral atoms that makes nearly a complete circle around the fringes of the solar system (SN: 11/21/09, p. 15), about 100 to 125 times Earth’s distance from the sun.

Now a map compiled by IBEX just six months after the first sighting shows that the ribbon remains, but the bright, dense knot has dimmed dramatically, diffusing into the ribbon, says IBEX researcher David McComas of the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio and the University of Texas at San Antonio. He and his colleagues report the finding online September 29 in the Journal of Geophysical Research–Space Physics. They also discussed the study during a telephone press briefing September 30.

“However shocking it was to see a narrow ribbon structure initially, it’s even more shocking that you could have something change on a time scale as short as six months,” McComas says. In contrast, large clouds and other scenery that the solar system encounters as it moves through space take thousands of years to change. McComas also notes that the sun’s magnetic field, which fills the heliosphere and might be expected to have something to do with the knot’s appearance, has an 11-year cycle. He suspects that the fading knot may be related to the unusually quiescent solar cycle that just ended and the shrinking of the heliosphere due to the reduction of the solar wind during that time.

Nonetheless, the “untying of the knot,” as McComas calls the dimming of the bright feature, “reinforces the whole basic idea that what we thought was going on in interactions at the edge of the solar system we just didn’t get right at all.” Two additional IBEX maps, taken six months and a year after the one analyzed in the new report, show a similar dimming.

Because the wind of ions blowing out from the sun and the solar magnetic field that threads through the heliosphere shield the solar system from galactic cosmic rays — energetic charged particles from the Milky Way — researchers are struggling to understand the processes that play out at the solar system’s edge.

“Models that try to explain the interaction between the solar system and the rest of the galaxy are missing key effects,” says Merav Opher of George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., who was not a participant in the new study.

During the most recent solar magnetic field cycle, in which the sun has been unusually quiescent, more galactic cosmic rays appear to have infiltrated the solar system, although a direct connection between changes in the cosmic ray population and global changes in the heliosphere are not definitive, says IBEX researcher Nathan Schwadron of the University of New Hampshire in Durham.

Schwadron says that last year he was “pretty well sold on the idea” that the ribbon and knot were generated by atoms from the solar wind that had streamed out beyond the heliospheric boundary and had been reflected back by the interstellar magnetic field. “However, the time variations we are seeing now throw yet another monkey wrench into that explanation,” he adds.

A combination of reflection, compression of the outer part of the heliosphere and events in which magnetic fields break apart and reconnect with neighboring fields may all be playing a role, he suggests.

Understanding the extent to which magnetic fields at the boundary of the solar system filter out harmful cosmic rays will not only guide future astronauts as they make longer and deeper forays into space but may also help perfect models for assessing the potential for habitable planets around other stars, Opher adds. Even a planet that had the right temperature to maintain liquid water could not sustain life if it were bombarded by a huge dose of galactic cosmic rays, she notes.



Be sure to go to the link to see the videos.

[bashi]

Thats really strange. The timeframe is extraordinary short for cosmic dimensions.
Whatever is happening, it happens extremely fast.
I dont know whether this is good news:
"He suspects that the fading knot may be related to the unusually quiescent solar cycle that just ended and the shrinking of the heliosphere due to the reduction of the solar wind during that time."

[lightblue]

bashi:

Re: (Scientific) Evidence for What's Coming

Thats really strange. The timeframe is extraordinary short for cosmic dimensions.
Whatever is happening, it happens extremely fast.
I dont know whether this is good news:
"He suspects that the fading knot may be related to the unusually quiescent solar cycle that just ended and the shrinking of the heliosphere due to the reduction of the solar wind during that time."



if there's so little time left, most people will be caugth unawares...i.e., lots may die in an instant - would that be correct? are the events likely to last or is it the intensity that matters? l


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[bashi]

bashi:


if there's so little time left, most people will be caugth unawares...i.e., lots may die in an instant - would that be correct? are the events likely to last or is it the intensity that matters? l


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there is not enough data available to come to a conclusion. the vanishing of the ribbon can have two reasons:
a. the influx has decreased, which means less threat or
b. the phenomen has become less pronounced because the suns mag. shield does not resist it any more that strong. that would imply that the suns mag. shield must have decreased dramatically over the last 12 months.
i know that the suns mag. field will decrease and change its polarity during the solar maximum.
a max. of cosmic dust influx with a sun-cycle (11 years) period is almost certain. but that has happened many times before also.
but we do not know for how long the ribbon is already there. it can be there for the last say 250 years without effecting us.
we have just data for a few months.
to conclude that the sky will fall down, just because we are able to look further into the unknown and do not understand it, is not the right way.
also the mentioning of the increase of high energy gamma rays might not do.

on the other hand, there is a slight possibility that something is happening very soon. lets not be impatient, we all will know soon enough.
i will try to look into it more...

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[lightblue]

bashi:
there is not enough data available to come to a conclusion. the vanishing of the ribbon can have two reasons:



you mean the ribbon from that video (3-4 months ago) disappeared?

not impatient :wink: l


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[bashi]

bashi:



you mean the ribbon from that video (3-4 months ago) disappeared?

not impatient :wink: l


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follow the link which morningsong provided...

[bashi]

A very bif filament developed on the sun.
A bright 'hot spot' just north of the filament's midpoint is UV radiation from sunspot 1112. The proximity is no coincidence; the filament appears to be rooted in the sunspot below. If the sunspot flares, it could cause the entire structure to erupt.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9748/euvfilament.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/euvfilament.jpg/)

[Swami]

A very bif filament developed on the sun.
A bright 'hot spot' just north of the filament's midpoint is UV radiation from sunspot 1112. The proximity is no coincidence; the filament appears to be rooted in the sunspot below. If the sunspot flares, it could cause the entire structure to erupt.

You know what Bashi, I think that will happen between the 8-11 november this year.......

listen to this one...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?593-Clif-High-webbot-predictions-for-2010&p=60437&viewfull=1#post60437

....and I got the weird feeling Mid Europe will be getting it on their noses.......

Could this be the snake on the sun Maurice Cotterell spoke off in his book....???

[bashi]

You know what Bashi, I think that will happen between the 8-11 november this year.......

listen to this one...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?593-Clif-High-webbot-predictions-for-2010&p=60437&viewfull=1#post60437

....and I got the weird feeling Mid Europe will be getting it on their noses.......

Could this be the snake on the sun Maurice Cotterell spoke off in his book....???

i doubt that the filament will last that long

[bashi]

Sunspot 1112 erupted, producing an M - class flare...





http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3330/xray.gif (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/xray.gif/)

[bashi]

The filament was NOT effected by the flare.

[Swami]

The filament was NOT effected by the flare.

Woow, thats good news, at least for me......

I was under the impression the flare would "ignite" the filament.....

[bashi]

That was for you because of my PM.
The filament is gigantic and flying high over the surface, while the ground based flare does not seem to have much of a CME attached to it. So the disturbance of the filament seems to be minimal.
It seems a lucky coincidence... at least at first sight

[MorningSong]

From Spaceweather.com:


SOLAR FLARE! Sunspot 1112 erupted today at 1900 UT, producing the strongest solar flare in nearly three months. Click here to view a movie of the M1-class explosion from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory.

GREAT FILAMENT: A vast filament of magnetism is cutting across the sun's southern hemisphere today. Run a finger along the golden-brown line in this extreme UV image from the Solar Dynamics Observatory and your digit will have traveled more than 400,000 km:

http://spaceweather.com/images2010/16oct10/euvfilament_strip.jpg

A bright 'hot spot' just north of the filament's midpoint is UV radiation from sunspot 1112. The proximity is no coincidence; the filament appears to be rooted in the sunspot below. If the sunspot flares, it could cause the entire structure to erupt.

UPDATE: Today's M1-flare did not destabilize the filament. Stay tuned, however, because sunspot 1112 is growing and more activity is possible in the hours ahead. readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.

[MorningSong]

What I am finding "strange" is that if you go to Soho's latest images and go to the movie theater of either Lasco2 or Lasco3 ( http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater and http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/c3/512/ ) and put in the dates 2010-10-14 to 2010-10-16, you will see a HUGE flare that occured THIS MORNING as a "star" passes, I guess, behind the sun...yet at 19:00, you see nothing......(???)

[lightblue]

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Richard reports ( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7027-M2.9-Solar-Flare-... ) that a minor Radio Blackout has taken place.


http://www.solarcycle24.com/index.htm



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[bashi]

What I am finding "strange" is that if you go to Soho's latest images and go to the movie theater of either Lasco2 or Lasco3 ( http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater and http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/c3/512/ ) and put in the dates 2010-10-14 to 2010-10-16, you will see a HUGE flare that occured THIS MORNING as a "star" passes, I guess, behind the sun...yet at 19:00, you see nothing......(???)

a flare is an X ray burst which we cant see in LASCO pics, while a CME is a visible ejection of particles.
mostly CMEs are coming together with X-ray flares, but not always. this is a more rare - lucky - case of flare without CME.

[Swami]

That was for you because of my PM.
The filament is gigantic and flying high over the surface, while the ground based flare does not seem to have much of a CME attached to it. So the disturbance of the filament seems to be minimal.
It seems a lucky coincidence... at least at first sight

What could happen IF a CME would hit the filament, according to your knowledge...

Waterman spoke of this....

........strange magnetic disturbances and odd optical effects..........
...in his last show fridayevening:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?593-Clif-High-webbot-predictions-for-2010&p=60437&viewfull=1#post60437

[bashi]

What could happen IF a CME would hit the filament, according to your knowledge...



a filament is a magnetic structure with "strings" of particles entraped. a stationary "flux-rope". a CME is more or less the same, but an explosive "flux-bubble" , caused by a collapse of smaller, local ropes. the kinetic energy will (most likely) cut through the rope like a hot knife through butter. that would lead to the collapse of the rope. the energy stored in the magnetic fields will thus be released together with the entraped particles. this can cause an release of energy much more than in the original cutting CME.

[Swami]

a filament is a magnetic structure with "strings" of particles entraped. a stationary "flux-rope". a CME is more or less the same, but an explosive "flux-bubble" , caused by a collapse of smaller, local ropes. the kinetic energy will (most likely) cut through the rope like a hot knife through butter. that would lead to the collapse of the rope. the energy stored in the magnetic fields will thus be released together with the entraped particles. this can cause an release of energy much more than in the original cutting CME.

Thx again...:thumb:

[bashi]

The giant filament above sunspot 1112 has broken up and dissolved itself in a "peaceful" manner.
No stress...

[bashi]

Here a vid of it :

http://sdowww.lmsal.com/sdomedia/ssw/ssw_client/data/ssw_service_101018_101814_45811480/www/ssw_cutout_20101018_152609_aia_304_S23W60_20101018_152608_m.mpg

[bashi]

another piece of doomed space debris on its final dive...

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3415/latestmod.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/i/latestmod.jpg/)

[jasontorque]

The following article appeared today on the Sky News (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Satnavs-UK-Dangerously-Reliant-On-Satnavs-Report-By-Royal-Academy-of-Engineering-Says/Article/201103215948006?lpos=UK_News_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15948006_Satnavs%3A_UK_Dangerously_Reliant_On_Satnavs%2C_Report_By_Royal_Academy_of_Engi neering_Says) website entitled "Britain 'Dangerously Reliant' On Satnavs (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Satnavs-UK-Dangerously-Reliant-On-Satnavs-Report-By-Royal-Academy-of-Engineering-Says/Article/201103215948006?lpos=UK_News_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15948006_Satnavs%3A_UK_Dangerously_Reliant_On_Satnavs%2C_Report_By_Royal_Academy_of_Engi neering_Says)". I find it interesting to note the reference from The Royal Academy of Engineering's Professor Paul Cannon, regarding major a "space weather event", where sun-flare activity would lead to disruption of satellite systems.