Alex Jones Debate with Piers Morgan 1/7/2012 on CNN

[Arrowwind]

However, as a world citizen, I am really worried about it, because the whole world tends to imitate the USA. If they start banning weapons up there, the whole world will follow, which would clear the ground for a worldwide dictatorship.

Raf.

Now we are getting somewhere regarding the big picture... and historically evey nation that has been disarmed becomes more violent and more subject to genocide.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

When it all comes down to it, if there comes a bloody revolution in the streets we must call upon and pray for a military coup. Ive been saying this for years now...and been bitten fiercly on this forum for my words... but I think people are starting to get what might actually come upon us... and I suspect aspects of the miliarty are in preparation

I'll make a safe prediction: Whichever side of the Constitution and Bill Or Rights the military takes, that side will prevail.

[Arrowwind]

When it all comes down to it, if there comes a bloody revolution in the streets we must call upon and pray for a military coup. Ive been saying this for years now...and been bitten fiercly on this forum for my words... but I think people are starting to get what might actually come upon us... and I suspect aspects of the miliarty are in preparation

I'll make a safe prediction: Whichever side of the Constitution and Bill Or Rights the military takes, that side will prevail.

How did you ever become so profound? ;)

[norman]

When it all comes down to it, if there comes a bloody revolution in the streets we must call upon and pray for a military coup. Ive been saying this for years now...and been bitten fiercly on this forum for my words... but I think people are starting to get what might actually come upon us... and I suspect aspects of the miliarty are in preparation

I'll make a safe prediction: Whichever side of the Constitution and Bill Or Rights the military takes, that side will prevail.


Yeah!...

I'm watching and waiting with fingers crossed to see where the fracture occurs.

I think it's wise to think the Commander in Chief ain't with us on this, despite Wilcock's fabulations.


It remains to be seen where the parting opens up and on which sides of the parting the crucial assets remain.

I'd generally assume that the military's best strategists are very high up and close to the chief commander etc. So, I'm sort of expecting to lose the best of those to the dark side.

Shame, strategy is everything.

Exactly where the chisel man hammers it into the slate rock will determine most of the outcome.

Too close to the top and secondary complications are likely.

Too close to the bottom and the resources for the 'people' are going to be out gunned.


Not being an American inside the country, I've got the luxury and time to watch and gasp when the thing goes off.

If I was actually there and with nowhere to hide, I'd be stocking up with clean shorts.

[SilentFeathers]

When it all comes down to it, if there comes a bloody revolution in the streets we must call upon and pray for a military coup. Ive been saying this for years now...and been bitten fiercly on this forum for my words... but I think people are starting to get what might actually come upon us... and I suspect aspects of the miliarty are in preparation

I'll make a safe prediction: Whichever side of the Constitution and Bill Or Rights the military takes, that side will prevail.


Yeah!...

I'm watching and waiting with fingers crossed to see where the fracture occurs.

I think it's wise to think the Commander in Chief ain't with us on this, despite Wilcock's fabulations.


It remains to be seen where the parting opens up and on which sides of the parting the crucial assets remain.

I'd generally assume that the military's best strategists are very high up and close to the chief commander etc. So, I'm sort of expecting to lose the best of those to the dark side.

Shame, strategy is everything.

Exactly where the chisel man hammers it into the slate rock will determine most of the outcome.

Too close to the top and secondary complications are likely.

Too close to the bottom and the resources for the 'people' are going to be out gunned.


Not being an American inside the country, I've got the luxury and time to watch and gasp when the thing goes off.

If I was actually there and with nowhere to hide, I'd be stocking up with clean shorts.

Many will soon have to make some choices they never imagined they would ever have to make....I think it's pretty certain things are about to get really intense. I'm hoping I'm wrong.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

It's the actual revolution and confrontation they fear most and wish to avoid, hence the continuance of false flags and manipulation of public opinion, and most of all black magick. As chaos theory goes, once the pile of sand begins to fall, you cannot predict how it rearranges. Their modus operandi is a psychological sign of weakness and vulnerability. They cannot predict in the moment of fire how people will respond, how they will walk through the fire, but they fear that they will respond to the truth accordingly. And rightly so they should fear. They can't force their dominion, they have to manipulate it through black magick, in sheer abrogation of free will. Hence the manipulation and fear tactic to convince us to follow their heed. They need to scare people into submission, but a growing number aren't scared anymore and are awake, and ARE magicians themselves, not counting the innumerable regular gun-toting citizens of America who simply want to be left alone and keep their firearms, and who have no knowledge or experience of black magick. If it comes down to it, they know they will not succeed. That's why the rat bites in the night under darkness beneath the blanket. Remember, as Muad'Dib says, "Fear is the Mind Killer".

Jim sang years ago, "they got the guns, but we got the numbers." Five to one. Five to one.

Zur Hölle with this black magick bullsh!t. :wizard:

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[Ron Mauer Sr]

Hence the manipulation and fear tactic to convince us to follow their heed. They need to scare people into submission, but a growing number aren't scared anymore and are awake, and ARE magicians themselves, not counting the innumerable regular gun-toting citizens of America who simply want to be left alone and keep their firearms, and who have no knowledge or experience of black magick. If it comes down to it, they know they will not succeed. That's why the rat bites in the night under darkness beneath the blanket. Remember, as Muad'Dib says, "Fear is the Mind Killer".


In my humble opinion, fear may be the most powerful weapon of the dark team
Where attention goes, reality flows. If they can focus people's fear, the people help create the dark side agenda.

And as some have said, some part of the dark side actually feeds on the fear. Just like picking and eating a carrot out of the garden for most of us.

I wonder who is hanging out in theaters showing horror films, just barely outside perception range of the audience.

Maybe the best thing to do is find someone, some animal, something to love whenever fear shows its ugly head. And definitely stock up on necessities before the SHTF.

[Flash]

Much of what Hagmann says makes a lot of sense, but why is he being allowed to say so much without having a piano dropped on his head???? or his so to be source having a piano dropped on HIS/HER head????

If Hagmann is sincere, he must be being spoonfed in my opinion (he seems very sincere though to me for the most part).

Could they be using him and allowing certain info to go public????

ADDED: He seems to be painting DHS as an entitiy that we need to be very careful of and has huge power, to be "afraid" of, to "fear" (which I believe to be true). He's a great intimidation tool for them it seems for DHS to get their message out to cause fear and intimidate people....

He most probably knows a lot about people instigating those kind of tactics and knows how to protect himself too.

[Cidersomerset]

Gun Control in Australia - Watch and Weep

Saturday, 12 January 2013 09:18

Posted by David Icke


This story is from 2011......Sending a message to
American gun owners " Do not trust your Polititions "



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[Cidersomerset]

Wyoming’s Firearms Protection Act: Wyoming Proposes Jail Time for Feds Who Enforce Gun Laws

Saturday, 12 January 2013 09:39


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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78168-wyomings-firearms-protection-act-wyoming-proposes-jail-time-for-feds-who-enforce-gun-laws

[bogeyman]

Alex Jones should not of lost his temper, that will be used against him and make him look like a gun nut. He has some valid points, and there is some truth in them. Yet there are too many guns in circulation and legislation to ban certain types of weapons wouldn't make much of a different. It is the mentality of the person using the gun that is the problem, not the gun itself, anything can be used as a weapon. Further what makes you think that some in the security forces and law enforcement are not just as bad as the minority who commit these terrible acts (shootings)? Remember this Deutschland, Fatherland, Motherland, and now "Homeland" doesn't this tell you something?

[Fred Steeves]

According to my source within the DHS, Mr. Jones was not only the subject of a covert surveillance, but the target of an over surveillance and a special operation that had it been successful, would have been used as a tool to intimidate, embarrass, and ultimately destroy the reputation of Mr. Jones “beyond rehabilitation.” It is necessary to understand those two words: beyond rehabilitation. This means that regardless of any attempted explanation by the victim of such an operation, it would be virtually impossible to explain or overcome the lasting visual image resulting from the set-up.


All probably true, as Mr. Hagmann who'm you're quoting here Bill sounds like he knows exactly what he's talking about. However none of that was really necessary, unless just for sick fun on the side, as Alex did a wonderful job of discrediting himself, and most importantly his/our message with his performance. Whether this was Alex imploding, or he's the victim of some kind of black magic or MKULTRA type operation I don't know. Either way I'm done with him, and his continued self justification and excuses. This whole thing stinks to high heaven, and every spidey sense I have is imploring: "Walk away, just walk away from it".

As far as I'm concerned anyway, the future of this no longer resides with A.J. That chapter is done with, it resides with people just like those on this forum. Watch your step, and keep your cool...

[SilentFeathers]

According to my source within the DHS, Mr. Jones was not only the subject of a covert surveillance, but the target of an over surveillance and a special operation that had it been successful, would have been used as a tool to intimidate, embarrass, and ultimately destroy the reputation of Mr. Jones “beyond rehabilitation.” It is necessary to understand those two words: beyond rehabilitation. This means that regardless of any attempted explanation by the victim of such an operation, it would be virtually impossible to explain or overcome the lasting visual image resulting from the set-up.


All probably true, as Mr. Hagmann who'm you're quoting here Bill sounds like he knows exactly what he's talking about. However none of that was really necessary, unless just for sick fun on the side, as Alex did a wonderful job of discrediting himself, and most importantly his/our message with his performance. Whether this was Alex imploding, or he's the victim of some kind of black magic or MKULTRA type operation I don't know. Either way I'm done with him, and his continued self justification and excuses. This whole thing stinks to high heaven, and every spidey sense I have is imploring: "Walk away, just walk away from it".

As far as I'm concerned anyway, the future of this no longer resides with A.J. That chapter is done with, it resides with people just like those on this forum. Watch your step, and keep your cool...

Hi Fred, I don't think they are done with Jones quite yet, I also don't think their discrediting "program" got the effect that they wanted or expected either. (if that was even their true intent in the first place)

If anything, they wanted more people to be aware of who Jones is; He's a good tool to divide people with.

[sleepy]

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[SilentFeathers]

According to my source within the DHS, Mr. Jones was not only the subject of a covert surveillance, but the target of an over surveillance and a special operation that had it been successful, would have been used as a tool to intimidate, embarrass, and ultimately destroy the reputation of Mr. Jones “beyond rehabilitation.” It is necessary to understand those two words: beyond rehabilitation. This means that regardless of any attempted explanation by the victim of such an operation, it would be virtually impossible to explain or overcome the lasting visual image resulting from the set-up.


All probably true, as Mr. Hagmann who'm you're quoting here Bill sounds like he knows exactly what he's talking about. However none of that was really necessary, unless just for sick fun on the side, as Alex did a wonderful job of discrediting himself, and most importantly his/our message with his performance. Whether this was Alex imploding, or he's the victim of some kind of black magic or MKULTRA type operation I don't know. Either way I'm done with him, and his continued self justification and excuses. This whole thing stinks to high heaven, and every spidey sense I have is imploring: "Walk away, just walk away from it".

As far as I'm concerned anyway, the future of this no longer resides with A.J. That chapter is done with, it resides with people just like those on this forum. Watch your step, and keep your cool...

Hi Fred, I don't think they are done with Jones quite yet, I also don't think their discrediting "program" got the effect that they wanted or expected either. (if that was even their true intent in the first place)

If anything, they wanted more people to be aware of who Jones is; He's a good tool to divide people with.

I agree with both of these posts. I had to stop listening to Alex years ago He just does not sit well with me. I trust myself.

I can't listen to him for any length of time either, he gives me a headache after a while with his constant ranting, but I do think he has a great crew of reporters (probably what the "globalist cronies" are really concerned about)

[SilentFeathers]

Here's a thought:

In 50 years from now, will Alex Jones be remembered as "The crazy and loud mouth nut job conspiracy theorists that was right all along?"

Nostrajonesus?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Alex Jones ranting reminds me very much of the late Bill Cooper.
Bill Cooper played a significant part in my wake up call.
And I too find the ranting very unpleasant, so I do not listen for more than an occasional few minutes.

[bogeyman]

Any one who rattles the cage of control, and has a following will become a target of those in control of that mechanism of manipulation and control. The rights of an individual are not considered if the operation against an individual is black or classified.

[BrianEn]

A few days after the interview and I'm over the initial shock of Alex's blow up, it seems that it got a lot of people's attention and started asking their own questions. Plus Piers had his clock cleaned a few times since. I'm referring to the Ben Shapiro interview. I tuned into Piers show yesterday and he seemed to drop the subject for now. A little regrouping I suppose. I really really don't know. I can just watch this and see where it goes. The end result seems to have some positive results.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Lets hope so.

[Alan]

I wouldn't necessarily trust wikipedia.

Of course not, but at least wikipedia states where it got it's data (British Crime Survey).

Interesting that you question Wikipedia but not the silly graphic slamming Piers.

[Dorjezigzag]

Don't know if anyone has posted this but just a gentle reminder of the character of a certain Piers Morgan.


Editor sacked over 'hoax' photos

The Mirror board said Morgan would be stepping down immediately
Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has been sacked after the newspaper conceded photos of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi were fake.
In a statement the Mirror said it had fallen victim to a "calculated and malicious hoax" and that it would be "inappropriate" for Morgan to continue.

The Queen's Lancashire Regiment (QLR) said the Mirror had endangered British troops by running the pictures.

Roger Goodman, of the QLR, said the regiment now felt "vindicated".

Mr Goodman added: "It is just a great pity it has taken so long... and that so much damage has been done in the meantime."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3716151.stm

This story about his involvement in hacking phones is also worth checking out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8635674/Hacking-scandal-Piers-Morgan-should-face-questions-say-MPs.html

Just a question, do people think that Jesus should have got angry and thrown those tables and chairs at the money changers?

[araucaria]

Piers Morgan, "sufficiently unembarrassed by what was criminal behaviour that he was prepared to joke about it" (Leveson inquiry). As editor of the Daily Mirror which perpetrated the crime(s) on his watch, I suspect that ought to make him criminally liable.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/30/piers-morgan-phone-hacking-leveson-inquiry

[DeDukshyn]

And just for some pure fun, here's Howard Stern's take on Alex's performance on Piers show ;) ;) -- at least they looked at the big picture, lol.

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[Arrowwind]

and all this repression is to be done by executive order, the new name for dictatorial force and rule.
Sieg Heil Obama!

[dreamer]

All this talk of losing his temper. He shouldn't have lost his temper. Well please, tell me, when is it time to be Fed up? When is it the proper time to lose ones temper (and there is a proper time, anyone who says that you should never lose thy temper is selling unrealistic ideals and has no passion, in this case, for personal freedom and liberty IMHO)? Do we have to wait till the feds are killing gun owners? How much do we put up withtill you give the big OK on losing your temper . its the message that counts, not the delivery.

[Arrowwind]

And just for some pure fun, here's Howard Stern's take on Alex's performance on Piers show ;) ;) -- at least they looked at the big picture, lol.

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:dance3: Howard Sterns is great! and not too off from Alex Jones in his positions. I miss him since he went to Satellite radio
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After listening to Jones again on this tape, Id say he did a pretty dam good job of telling the people what is happening... and Morgan, guess he came to America to find work after two issues of media corruption/scandal in the UK? Leave it to our mass media to take in UKs trash.

As dreamer said, its the message that counts not the delivery... unless your zombified, then the medium is the message.

[jagman]

Alex puts out alot really great info.He rubs people the wrong way sometimes and he can be overbearing, loud and boisterous. Did he hurt the truth movement??
I think that remains to be seen.I wonder how many sleepy ones were watching the Piers interview when Alex called him a NWO Hachett man. Or were just entertained enough to go and check out InfoWars or Prison Planet see what it's all about. I do understand why some of you are mad at Alex's behavior.

[HaveBlue]

It is obvious to anyone with a brain that AJ is just like the rest of us who have done our homework and want our kids to have a better life than what is on offer by the NWO.

I am currently looking into the rubbishing of AJ because he wouldn't fund a Stew Web legal action. If anyone knows and is/has started a thread about it here please do link me/us.

Yes I have to put some effort in before I can make up my mind on that one.! What is called Epistemology. (thank you Brian O'Leary RIP) Which is the subject of 'Why do we believe what we believe'.

Hint: The answer is NOT 'because we saw it on CNN'
And remember, play the ball and not the man.

[161803398]

http://www.theendrun.com/larry-pratt-british-gun-crime-stats-a-sham Apparently, the British GUN crime statistics are a complete sham as Larry Pratt said.

"in one recent notorious case, an elderly man who had been repeatedly burglarized and had received no meaningful assistance from the police, shot a pair of career burglars who had broken into his home. The man was sentenced to life in prison."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/21/205139.shtml

[Cidersomerset]

I just posted this article on a couple other medical threads , but is part of the bigger picture and this thread imo !!


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[Timewaster]

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[Cidersomerset]

This is an amusing article on Davids sight, its quite satirical and shows why we
don't want him back, this is a few years old but still relevent today ..LOl..

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Private Eye Editor Ian Hislop on the childish and vindictive behaviour of bully 'Piers Moron'

Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:02

Posted by David Icke


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[ulli]

That was priceless. Thank you.
Blessings, long life and happiness to Ian Hislop.
A true role model.

[161803398]

This is a video about Piers. Its funny (at the end).

http://xrepublic.tv/node/2253