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SnowyOwl
8th January 2013, 02:33
Third time trying to get this trough... Salutations to all, My name is Harfang des Neiges in French, Snowy Owl in English, Buho de las Nieves in Spanish and OOpik in Innu. I am a Ojibwa Algonquin French Medicine Man and sometimes Shaman north of the Narrow Path, in our Toungue Québec that is St-Lawrence River. North, Central and South Americans (not the europeans americans but the First Nations) are now on the move. We have lost around 40 millions people in the worst inhumane genocide of the last few milleniums. Spaniards immigrants caused the lost of about 55 percent of us, English immigrants about 30 percent, Portugueses about 15 percent, as for the French immigrants we were known until around 1960's as the White Negroes of America, our Nation, the only Latino-American occulted Nation of the American Hemisphere, was abandonned by narcissic, presumptious and egocentrical aristocratic France. We have found Americans Women (Not United-Statians Women) quite attractive. We are now about 4 millions French First Nations Métis in North America. We have discover with our First Nations Neighbords the Wonderfull World of Nature (Remember we are called the Woodrunners, aka Daniel Boone in US). The Motto of the French Nation of America is ''Je me Souviens'', that is I remember. In our Cultures there have not been any thorn spirits that made us say, ''Lets go hunts some Indians or a good indians is a death ones, etc.. We have neither desired nor hanged Africans neither butcher Latinos, In fact it is all the contrary. May you all take this opportunity to gather your Courage, your Honesty and dare consider what has been done to the Ancestral Americans. Idle No More We are not going to be silenced, no more! Idle No More is a worldwide indigenous movement started by the First Nations Tribes of Canada as a way to help protect the Constitutional Treaty Rights of the Indian Act. These rights are being threatened by the proposed C-45 Bill. The Bill will significantly decrease tribal leader and community control over decisions related to the land and water use on Indian Reserve lands, the tribal peoples of Canada will have little to no control over how corporations make use of untapped natural resources, specifically on indigenous territory protected under Sovereignty treaties. Attawapiska Chief Theresa Spence began a hunger strike on Dec. 11, 2012. She is asking Prime Minister Stephen Harper to attend a discussion regarding the Bill and treaty rights. Harper has yet to respond. Spence is willing to die for her people's rights. This film documents one of the many events worldwide in support of the Idle No More movement. This event was held in Seattle Washington De. 29, 2012. The film was Directed by Dave Wilson (Brother Ali, Frank Ocean, Atmosphere, Yelawolf, Evidence), Produced by Tulalip tribal member and independent recording artist Brodie Stevens "Redskin" with footage by cameraman Ben Hampton. The film is narrated by author Gyasi Ross and elder Ramona Bennett. The gathering was organized by Lawerence Miguel and James Ole Coyote Sacred Water. Additional music by Redskin. THE FILM - http://metanoia-films.org/human-resources/ We have learned trough horrendous sufferings that the devil in this world is the power principle. We have succeed in abiding to our Traditions of staying in the Trails for Seven Generations and now is the time that we are getting in a different Trail for another Seven Generations. We have told you everything, wether via Sitting Bull smashing the psychopatic horrendous general Custer and his army at the Little BigHorn whose battle epitomizes the clash of cultures - the Native American versus the Euro-American - that is so much a part of our heritage. Our two cultural systems clashed in hundreds of ideological and practical concepts - their ideas of land ownership, properties, ideas of treaties money and boundaries, etc... Sitting Bull, the Métis Riel in Manitoba before being hang by the English, Geronimo, Chief Seatlle, etc.. all has been said and done, look around you, look at what the values you embrace is doing to humans, animals, birds, vegetations, fishes, water, soil, etc... Idle no more, idle no more Snowy Owl

SnowyOwl
8th January 2013, 03:15
Here is a 7 minutes film on IDLE NO MORE
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SnowyOwl
8th January 2013, 03:20
To the Memory of our Cherokee sisters and brothers.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW8rIM2lNN8 The Trail of Tears as Told by Johnny Cash - pt 1

Guest
8th January 2013, 03:32
Hi SnowyOwl

Thanks for the thread.

I wrote a couple of post on another thread about IdleNoMore....hope you do not mind if I cross post with the links to the posts.


I know this has been posted else where on the forum. Keeping the circle going


Bill C-45 not just an Indian problem

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19799&d=1356718942 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19799&d=1356718942)
Excerpt from Statement of Unity adopted by chiefs meeting with the Assembly of First Nations on December 6, 2012. (Courtesy Chiefs of Ontario)

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwor...onor-it-146328 (http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/article/canadas-senate-passes-bill-c-45-aboriginals-vow-not-honor-it-146328)

On January 1, 2013 - Call to all Pipe Carriers, Keepers of Bundles, Sweat Lodges, and Ceremonies (http://www.idlenomore1.blogspot.ca/2012/12/on-january-1-2013-call-to-all-pipe.html)

Tuesday, December 25, 2012
A Call Out of Extreme Importance & Significance from our Dear Friend EMIL BELL


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19797&d=1356717916
The four Young Women came at a very opportune time, and they are a gift from the "Creator", as are all the other Women who have supported the movement in the struggle against the distruction of "Mother Earth" and the elimination of future generations.


It is with this in mind, on New Years Day, I'm humbly putting out this request to Women/Men Pipe Carries, Keepers of the Sacred Bundles, Sweat Lodge Operaters, the many gifted with Sacred Ceremonies, to lite up the Sacred Fires and Pray so that we can save "Mother Earth" from further distruction, for Future Generation.

http://idlenomore.com/ Edit to add: (there is a translator left top of page)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19798&d=1356718017

Four (4) Founding Woman of Idle No More (L-R)
Sheelah McLean, Nina Wilson, Sylvia McAdam, & Jessica Gordon The four Young Women came at a very opportune time, and they are a gift from the "Creator", as are all the other Women who have supported the movement in the struggle against the distruction of "Mother Earth" and the elimination of future generations.


.....For me to say that, I'm not afraid to die, I wouldn't be honest. As I stated, when I began the hunger strike (on the 12th of December) if we do not see anything positive, thirty days after the start on Jan. 10/13, I'm willing to give my life so future generations can survive and enjoy the many gifts from the "Creator". I have a lot of very good reason to want to live, and I have a lot of faith in all of the Aboriginal People and our Sisters and Brothers of other color, who are in this struggle to save "Mother Earth" for those that are living and those not yet born.

Thank You and keep the movement Peaceful, our Children are watching, via "Mother Earth" and Future Generations.

Elder Emil Bell

Emil Bell went on hunger strike December 11, 2012 in support of Chief Theresa Spence and all the reasons people of Idle No More began, please see the initial Post (http://idlenomore1.blogspot.ca/2012/12/emil-bell-to-also-go-on-hunger-strike.html) made on this website for more information:

http://idlenomore1.blogspot.ca/2012/...er-strike.html (http://idlenomore1.blogspot.ca/2012/12/emil-bell-to-also-go-on-hunger-strike.html)

please join in and say a prayer for the earth and all of her people

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=607144#post607144


There are many media blackouts on this especially across the North Americas, it's showing up mostly on social media networks.
forgot to put this in my last post. Here is a link to the Jobs and Growth Act: Bill C-45 http://openparliament.ca/bills/41-1/C-45/ Read more here=> LEGISinfo (http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Bill=C45&Parl=41&Ses=1) and here full text of the bill (http://parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=5942521).

A Statement from the Aboriginal Affairs:
Bruce Hyer (http://openparliament.ca/politicians/bruce-hyer/) Thunder Bay—Superior North, ON
Mr. Speaker, the first nations of northwestern Ontario are concerned that their rights have been trampled by Bill C-45 (http://openparliament.ca/bills/41-1/C-45/), the government's omnibus budget bill. Concerns include leasing of reserve land, on-reserve voting rights and scrapping the Navigable Waters Protection Act, which reduced protection of millions of our lakes and rivers to less than 200. No longer protected are northwestern Ontario rivers like the Kaministiquia, or the Nipigon River, home of the largest speckled trout in the world.
Chiefs point out the Prime Minister (http://openparliament.ca/politicians/stephen-harper/) promised that his government would never approve unilateral changes to the Indian Act. They are right. The government has not adequately consulted with first nations. However, neither has the Prime Minister consulted with scientists, academics, small businesses, Canadian workers, NGOs, provincial premiers, or Parliament, including his own backbenchers, so first nations chiefs are in good company.
The PM does seem to consult frequently and widely with CEOs of banks, foreign oil companies and dictators of communist countries.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=607216&viewfull=1#post607216

and here is another post link on the same thread about IdleNoMore http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=607187&viewfull=1#post607187


Love

Nora

sandy
8th January 2013, 03:48
It will be the First Nations people who will lead the way for the rest of the world!! "Idle No More" is carrying the torch to be passed not only around the world to other indigenous tribal peoples but to all peoples, no matter color, creed, religion, or culture.

This is because Heart Intelligence is something that is alive and well in their communities and their spirits have never been buried by economic progression IMHO.......................GO GO GO IDLE NO MORE!!!

SnowyOwl
8th January 2013, 04:31
Got to Land here... There is a sustain beat to it, a music that animate inner bones.... May All Braves march towards the resolution of properties, of restraint an Evocation of zie SelbsWang of Kant. Look, Listen and Enjoy while I will translate what they are saying in English. It is Great Sisters from Up There, there are suddenly a Simultaneaous Rise of Braves Heading for the Great Peace. Harfang des Neiges P.S. I will add a link to the Great Milady Ste-Marie OjibWay share a Lasting Reality of Pure Perception. Buffie Ste-Marie Decide to Jet Stream a Tool for Braves, and a delicate invitation for Braves to Love Love Lives Up where we Belong When the Eagles Fly on the Mountains Hights Mr Cooker Embraced it as a Gift only Brave Women as Dame Sainte-Marie can Granth and Brought these Life Cold Grasp of Évidence, Cohérence, Pertinence in the Trail in Wich Braves acts accordingly. ««Thank you for the privilege, Mother Clan, Achak Buffy Sainte-Marie - Up Where We Belong Buffy Sainte-Marie - Up Where We Belong
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SnowyOwl
8th January 2013, 04:56
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The Peace of the Braves Snowy

ghostrider
8th January 2013, 05:16
Now your singing my song , ... Last time I looked , I didn't see my grandmother waving a sign that said hey white man from England =come on over here and kill my people take my land , change my religion,change my language, and cut down trees to make your paper money to send back to England ... All the money in the world is never enough for you like a virus it eats away at your soul, you fence in yourself from your neighbors, and live out of balance with nature, and wonder why everything leads to war and the using up all natural resources till you have destroyed the land and made desolate the culture of the oldest race on earth ,children of the star people, the wisdom keepers ... The cherokee indian ... Go read some writings of sitting bull, he sounds like one of the forum members of today...far from savage, highly enlightened...

Houman
8th January 2013, 05:40
We have told you everything, wether via Sitting Bull smashing the psychopatic horrendous general Custer and his army at the Little BigHorn whose battle epitomizes the clash of cultures - the Native American versus the Euro-American - that is so much a part of our heritage. Our two cultural systems clashed in hundreds of ideological and practical concepts - their ideas of land ownership, properties, ideas of treaties money and boundaries, etc... Sitting Bull, the Métis Riel in Manitoba before being hang by the English, Geronimo, Chief Seatlle, etc.. all has been said and done, look around you, look at what the values you embrace is doing to humans, animals, birds, vegetations, fishes, water, soil, etc... Idle no more, idle no more Snowy Owl

====
"Vous êtes déjà si misérables que
vous ne pouvez le devenir plus. Quels genre d'homme doivent
être les Européens? Quelle espèce de
créature choisissent-ils d'être, forcés
de faire le bien et n'ayant pour éviter le mal
d'autre inspiration que la peur de la punition? (...)
L'homme n'est pas seulement celui qui marche debout sur ses jambes, qui sait la lecture et l'écriture et montrer mille exemples de son industrie... En vérité mon cher frère, je te plains du plus profond de mon âme. Suis mon conseil et devient Huron.
Je vois clairement la profonde différence entre ma condition et la tienne. Je suis le maître de ma condition. Je suis le maître de mon corps, j'ai l'entière disposition de moi-même, je fais ce qui me plaît, je suis le premier et le dernier de ma nation, je ne crains absolument aucun homme, je dépends seulement du Grand Esprit.
Il n'en est pas de même pour toi. Ton corps aussi bien que ton âme sont condamnés à dépendre de ton grand capitaine, ton vice-roi dispose de toi. Tu n'as pas la liberté de faire ce que tu as dans l'esprit. Tu as peur des voleurs, des assassins, des faux-témoins, etc. Et tu dépends d'une infinité de personne dont la place est située au-dessus de la tienne. N'est-ce pas vrai ?"
Kondiarionk, chef Huron, s'adressant au baron de Lahontan, lieutenant français en Terre-Neuve"

mosquito
8th January 2013, 05:42
It will be the First Nations people who will lead the way for the rest of the world!! "Idle No More" is carrying the torch to be passed not only around the world to other indigenous tribal peoples but to all peoples, no matter color, creed, religion, or culture.

This is because Heart Intelligence is something that is alive and well in their communities and their spirits have never been buried by economic progression IMHO.......................GO GO GO IDLE NO MORE!!!

I agree 100%. The wisdom of the indigenous people must not be allowed to die out, they are the ones who can lead humanity back into balance.

SnowyOwl
8th January 2013, 05:55
Text : On a City named Kapak, debarking natural layouts, my ancestors made their backsacs peacefully, On the Anikana, en route North of Villages, (Canada, Canada, Canada) Samian, Loco Locass, it was Time that the merging happenned So we climb the True Story in order to face it. We want to put a Bridge between Nations, to gather Cultures, ignore the prejudices, allowing Nature to manifest The gate between people, no use to break it, we have had it more than enough, We are enough in it to talk about it Colomb who discovers what he name Land of Bitterness with all the Nations present on these Lands We where Pacific and still today, a white man in the atlantic that dreamed of creating a country. We Smoke the Peace Calumet without grudge, We can stay authentically ourselves even if we do not wear Feathers Union of two Nations kill ignorance Granth a leap of knowledge with Gratitude My Story and Yours, That makes two I'm part of Both People, Therefore I shall end like one of them Them from Hochelaga, Stadaconé, we get off at rabaska this year, We decide to Head towards Métissage Coz we have been Reticeo (I stay silent - Taceo, reticeo. Taceo is simply to be silent. Reticeo is is to keep silence when a reply might be expected, to withhold information. Think English word 'reticent.') the Alliance of Nouvelle-France Between Autochtones and Francophones, Mamawintiwin mi iima eiji mackawisiak, mackawisiak, eawiakowiak, etitentakosiak, It is in merging our Sound that we Seal the Pact between ..From Europe to America''. I've been across the Atlantique at that Epic Era, to the country of porsupine Scorbut was scoring straight to the Goal and it is to First Nations that I own my Life, my Health Raquette, canoe, fumes, hot wildflowers tea and toboggan, The Authentic Autochtone Teach to the Profanes the Science of the Savannah Without doubting that in the marge The Megalomaniac priest robe was going to break his skull For the First Nations in North America there is two choise: Either we shoot them like in the state or either we confine them in Reserve as in canada Coz fall one after another the bowling of their emblems Understandebly Pale Face becomes livid Sorry for the past but Now what do we do ? Light Up the Calumet so we can smoke for the Great Peace Hochelaga Hochelaga, Stadaconé, Them from Hochelaga, Stadaconé, we get off at rabaska this year, We decide to Head towards Métissage Coz we have been Reticeo on the Nouvelle-France Alliance Between Autochtones and Francophones Hochelaga, Stadaconé, we get off at rabaska this year, We decide to Head towards Métissage Coz we have been Reticeo on the Nouvelle-France Alliance Between Autochtones and Francophoneso Mamawintiwin mi iima eiji mackawisiak, mackawisiak, eawiakowiak, eawiakowiak, etitentakosiak, It is in merging our Sound that we Seal the Pact Sorry if I tax ya, you don't die, Or if indeed, your death is exquisite No tax we ain't gonna plume ya we preserve ya in alcohol, we smoke ya in tobacco, I call that taxidermia, Call that what ! Talk about it to Renée Dupuis-Morency, dammit ! Crass ignorance leaves a taste of stale, Hurray Up lets go to Momonrency Falls. Yes Mom, yes, I Remember that we where the first tourists in this Country That paid its survival to give back Spirits that have short life, And us, full of Empathy, we have become Big-Pharma captives ah ha, the karma yelling of the Algonquins, Innus, Attikameks of Québec, What if we light up the Calumet and smoke for the Great Peace ? Hochelaga, Stadaconé, we get off at rabaska this year, We decide to Head towards Métissage Coz we have been Reticeo on the Nouvelle-France Alliance Between Autochtones and Francophoneso Mamawintiwin mi iima eiji mackawisiak, mackawisiak, eawiakowiak, eawiakowiak, etitentakosiak, t is in merging our Sound that we Seal the Pact All thanks to Poster Bellauboi to have written the lyrics. Snowy Owl

spiritguide
8th January 2013, 11:04
And so it is, the First Nations Spirit speaks with ancestoral knowledge. Through my heart love flows to All that is.

:peace:

Snookie
8th January 2013, 14:57
I was very interested in watching the Idle No More demonstrations that occurred in Edmonton. One thing I noticed was that the public seemed either supportive or non committal. I didn't notice anyone who were antagonistic about the demonstrations. Maybe people's attitudes are finally changing!

soleil
8th January 2013, 17:45
only now stephen harper has been said that he has supposedly agreed to meet with cheif theresa spence. we shall see if it happens....

thank you snowy owl!

161803398
8th January 2013, 19:27
dont forget the Northern white tribes -- they will be with you too as they are with Palestine. Some of the other Northern tribes are a little farther removed but if you beat the drums a little louder you will get to most of them too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?G8pzlK3ZCYI

Guest
8th January 2013, 23:12
The Shell Corporation Tar Sands are in violation of Treaty 8 and adversely effecting a community of Athabascan people who live directly in the path of the run off from the illegal Tar Sands. Which are poisoning the waters, gross deformities of fish, killing off plant life, creating an unsustainable environment and causing rare forms of cancer in the people. The First Nations people at Fort Chipawyan are fighting back and claiming their 1899 natural, traditional and human treaty rights signed by Queen Victoria.


http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/alberta-tar-sands-illegal-treaty-8-first-nations-shell-oil/treaty-8-fort-chippewyan-555.jpg/image_large
Map of 1899 Treaty

Article from Yes, October 17th 2012

By, Kristen Moe

Fort Chipewyan is a small indigenous community on the edge of vast Lake Athabasca in Alberta’s remote north, accessible only by plane in summer and by snow road in winter. The town is directly downstream from the Alberta tar sands—Canada’s wildly lucrative, hotly debated, and environmentally catastrophic energy project.
Residents say that tar sands mining is not only dangerous but illegal because it violates the rights laid out in Treaty 8, an agreement signed in 1899 by Queen Victoria and various First Nations. Their legal challenge to the tar sands project could have a powerful impact on the legal role of treaties with First Nations people.
Being first in line downstream means that residents are the first to feel the effects of pollution: poisoned water, air, and animals.
It should come as no surprise that Fort Chip’s relationship to the tar sands industry is a contentious one. Being first in line downstream means that residents are the first to feel the effects of pollution: poisoned water (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/62818/title/Tar_sands_fingerprint_seen_in_rivers_and_snow), air (http://www.agu.org/news/press/pr_archives/2012/2012-12.shtml), and animals. The deformed fish (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/mutant-fish-lead-to-calls-for-ottawa-to-monitor-oil-sands/article1380106/) with bulbous tumors that residents pull from Lake Athabasca are legendary, as are the stories of Fort Chip’s abnormally frequent cases of rare forms of cancer.
The Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation (ACFN), many of whose members live in Fort Chip, responded on October 1 with a landmark constitutional challenge to Shell Canada’s expansion of its Jackpine tar sands mine (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/08/27/sci-cp-jackpine-oilsands-shell-scientists.html). The challenge states that the expansion would be a further assault on their rights as First Nations people, which are federally protected under Treaty 8.
The Jackpine expansion, which will be reviewed at the end of the month, would destroy over fifty square miles of land and begin mining portions of the Muskeg River in Canada’s most important watershed. AFCN members point out that both the federal government and Shell have ignored their legal duty to consult with them. This time, they’re going to fight back.

“As long as the sun shines”

As indigenous people, the relationship with the land sustains the Chipewyan: the plants and medicines they gather, the moose and fish that form the basis of the traditional diet, the water from the lake, and the deep spiritual connection with this particular place. Land is the basis for culture and identity; when the land is destroyed, so are the people.
According to the treaty itself, this agreement will remain valid “as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, and the rivers flow.” So, forever—in theory.
When the threats to health and traditional ways of life associated with tar sands mining are lamented, what’s often missing is the recognition that the mining is also in violation of Treaty 8 (http://www.treaty8.bc.ca/welcome.php). The Treaty, which covers an area twice the size of California within northern Alberta and neighboring provinces, guarantees basic rights such as health care and education, as well as the right to pursue traditional ways of living, including trapping, hunting, and harvesting. If the government does decide to reduce the amount of land used for these activities, it has a duty to consult with and accommodate the affected First Nations. According to the treaty itself, this agreement will remain valid “as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, and the rivers flow.” So, forever—in theory.
Treaty 8—along with the ten other treaties that were signed a hundred years ago and supposedly guarantee the continuation of native ways of life—isn’t supposed to have an expiration date. But the treaty’s language begs the question: what happens when the sun no longer shines because it’s obscured by smog? When the grass has been turned into an open pit mine, and when the rivers no longer flow because that water is siphoned off for bitumen processing? If the original signatories had known that this remote outpost would be turned into a smoke-belching Mordor (http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/canadian-tar-sands-look-like-tolkeinatms-mordor-says-un-water-advisor.html), it would probably have raised some eyebrows. On both sides.
Wide repercussions for native land rights

Chelsea Flook of the Sierra Club, which works closely with AFCN, is hopeful about the case. No constitutional challenge based on Treaty 8 rights has ever been fully argued before a judge, she says. It’s a test case that, if successful, could set a precedent for stricter enforcement of treaty rights and change the way industrial development is regulated. More importantly, though, it would embolden indigenous groups all over the Canada to fight abuses by both industry and government.
Honoring the treaties means honoring the most basic of agreements: the protection of a way of life—and, by extension, life itself.
For those of us in the United States, the gains and losses of a tiny native community, closer to the Arctic circle than most of us will ever get, may seem remote. But what’s at stake here isn’t just a few hundred people’s ability to hunt moose and conduct ceremonies in a particular spot. Both the U.S. and Canada share a history of colonizing what is essentially stolen land; our societies were built on a common system of disenfranchisement.
Honoring the treaties means honoring the most basic of agreements: the protection of a way of life—and, by extension, life itself. In the years since that day in 1899 when Treaty 8 was signed, every attempt to erase or assimilate indigenous people has been made, regardless of any commitment on paper. Native language and culture have been criminalized, children have been relocated to residential schools, and genocide has been a government policy. Industrial destruction of land is one final assault.
It’s a brutal and violent history, one that’s not taught in school. Coming to terms with our own past—as Canadians, as Americans, as colonizers—is unpleasant. It means seeing ourselves, here and now, in an unflattering light. Honoring agreements such as Treaty 8 means acknowledging all the ways these documents have been violated.
With this constitutional challenge, AFCN is forcing the Canadian government to look in the mirror. It’s a small step with huge implications, and a starting point for redressing more than a century of broken promises.
http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/alberta-tar-sands-illegal-treaty-8-first-nations-shell-oil





Love




Nora

norman
8th January 2013, 23:23
If the actions you choose are not sharp..........., slippage causes accidents.


As I see it, the dangerous ground is in the middle between raw shock to wake people....

....... and precise surgical doings that are carefully planned by very well prepared people who've done all their long term background research.

This is where I respect Alex Jones for his raw shock.... and also hold a candle of prayer for the secret operators who don't seek the limelight but are really out there doing stuff to fight this battle.

That, to me, is a winning formula.

Getting ambitious with the waking process is a folly.

All it takes to wake someone up is a loud crack or a good nudge. Once that is done, don't burn their ears off with half baked ideas you wouldn't even put into practice yourself.

Hervé
9th January 2013, 14:08
Somewhere, on a darker side of the dice, from http://www.henrymakow.com/the-fallacy-of-indigeonous.html:

The Fallacy of Indigenous Nationhood
January 7, 2013


http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/protest4.jpg


KEVIN ANNETT SAYS NEW INDIAN PROTEST MOVEMENT, "IDLE NO MORE," IS A GOVERNMENT-SANCTIONED PUBLICITY STUNT TO LEND CRED TO UNCLE TOM NATIVE CHIEFS

NATIVES ARE NOW NO DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF CANADIANS - EXCEPT 82 OF THEIR CHIEFS MAKE MORE MONEY THAN WHITE CHIEF STEPHEN HARPER, THE PRIME MINISTER

Our original elders were all wiped out by the smallpox wars. They died first, and with them, all of our real traditions. What survives today from our old ways? I'll tell you: nothing.

- Siem Maquinna, Earl George of the Ahousahts, to the author, Port Alberni, May 1995

All of the data indicates that nations at war suffering mortality rates exceeding 25% are permanently traumatized and destroyed, for they are incapable of ever recovering their pre-war integrity. They become for all practical purposes ghost societies.
- United States Air Force Manual on War and Counter-Insurgency, Washington, spring 1983

We've created a completely new Indian society and we're the new leaders of it. It's a done deal.
- Wendy Grant-John, government Indian and "chief" of the Musqueam Tribal Council, April 2006


by Kevin Annett
(abridged by henrymakow.com)

Indigenous nationhood, like Democracy or Christianity, is a wonderful idea; and wonderfully absent, in practice.

None of us have ever actually experienced these ideals - and yet how passionately we pretend to. In truth, we settle for cheap facsimiles of these visions that our various rulers convince us are the Real Deal. And sadly, we've believed their lie for so long that even now we teach it to one another, and to our children.

Let me leave aside the matter of Democracy, and Christianity, since I'm sure my gentle readers will need little convincing that marking ten ballots in one's lifetime and sitting in boredom in a church pew for an hour doesn't amount to much of anything. But I expect I'll have tougher sledding when it comes to tackling the fallacy of Indigenous nationhood.

The hard historical truth is that all genuine indigenous nations were historically uprooted and expunged by European colonialism within a few generations of contact.

All of them.

On average, more than 90% of the indigenous people and their nations in the western hemisphere were eventually exterminated by European weapons and diseases, starting with the oldest people, the learned, and the carriers of tradition and authority. The butchery began in 1492 in the Caribbean and ended around 1910 on Canada's west coast.

Killing off ninety percent of a people means, effectively, killing off all of a people. Recovery and continuity is impossible, especially after the children of the remnant populaces endure the massive brainwashing and cultural re-cloning fondly called Christian Education.

What remains today in the wake of this worst massacre in human history are not even pale imitations of those original nations, but something altogether new: namely, "ab-original" societies, manufactured by the conquering powers of church and state. For ab-original means, according to any dictionary, not of the original group.

NATIVE PEOPLE LIKE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED

In none of the hundreds of native groups I've worked with over the decades, have more than a handful of people known even a smattering of their original languages; nor do they practice their traditional ways, since those ways are gone.

None of them can live off the land, or practice ceremonies and rituals going back centuries. Their attitudes and hopes are the same as everybody else. They all flock into the same malls, buy the same pointless things, and poison their kids at the same fast food dumps as the "whites". And most of them pay taxes and vote and call themselves Canadians.

But what's most important, most of these aboriginals acknowledge that their traditional nation is dead and gone.

There are rare exceptions. But native men and women who aren't caught up in the money-chasing game of aboriginal politics are the first to admit that they are not indigenous, and know nothing of who they are, and were.

These people are denied the financial rewards that come to Professional Indians in the political, legal and academic worlds who posture as "First Nations" - a term created by the Canadian government - and who say all the right phrases and wear all the right regalia.

The vast majority of natives who don't play the Professional Indian game are invisible to the rest of us. I only began to know them when I became an outcast from my own culture and began to share their alienation. The Professional Indians, contrarily, are the only ones that you are allowed to see.


http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/s3.jpg


After all, upon whom has your attention been riveted by the corporate media for many weeks now other than "Chief" Theresa Spence, the $85,000 a year pseudo-hunger striker who is the poster-person of the government-launched dissent-funneling operation known as Idle No More?

Of course, this kind of fraud is nothing new. Conquerors always create their own version of the ones they've destroyed. The same thing happened to my former people in the Gaelic Highlands after English bayonets and schools wiped us out after 1745.

The British aristocracy invented the kilt and other Scottish niceties in their ab-original version of what they had destroyed. And they put into power the same kind of puppet chieftains like Ms. Spence who posture in Canada under the banner of the impotent "Assembly of First Nations" (AFN).

It's all part of the deadly symbiosis set up when one culture exterminates another: the conquerors keep tokens of their victims around for their reassurance and consciences; and strangely, over time, they and their conquered learn to depend on and identify with each other.

In truth, that's because a colonized people are no longer a people, but an appendage - that's the Latin meaning of "colon" - of the bigger Body Politic of the Conquerors. The remnant ab-originals depend on that Body for their very life and identity. Ask any AFN chief what he or she would do without a pay cheque from Ottawa. Ask Theresa Spence. (http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/01/20130103-200333.html)

In Canada, as in America, the Pale Eaters - otherwise known as white people, since Assimilation means to eat someone - keep chewing up and swallowing ever more of the colonized peoples. They do so literally, by grabbing their children, their future, their lands and resources, and symbolically, by making the colonized perform for them to assuage their guilt and maintain the lie that Genocide didn't really happen in their country.

"IDLE NO MORE" A PUBLICITY STUNT

There is no authentic Indian leadership in Canada; how can there be, after all, in the wake of such a cunning arrangement? And so the AFN and other cardboard creations are collapsing, having zero credibility, starting with young native men and women.

And that's why the AFN has had to desperately create publicity stunts like Idle No More, to salvage themselves and the Pale Eaters who for now fund them.

So what does it all mean?

Actually, a lot, once we drop all our blinders.

The indigenous nations that we all once were have vanished, chewed up by a corporate global machine, and we stand now in need of a new definition that embraces our collective humanity and the natural law that has always been our true bedrock.

We, humanity, are in a final war for survival. But as long as we cling to all the false divisions and labels imposed on us by the rulers, we'll remain what we are: appendages of a thing that is killing our children, our souls, and our world. And we will all go under, regardless of our political correctness.

Who is an Elder, anyway? I guess we all become one, eventually. And I suppose that I am an Elder, now, after more than twenty years of struggle. But I don't need anybody to tell me that I am.
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SnowyOwl
9th January 2013, 15:48
We have told you everything, wether via Sitting Bull smashing the psychopatic horrendous general Custer and his army at the Little BigHorn whose battle epitomizes the clash of cultures - the Native American versus the Euro-American - that is so much a part of our heritage. Our two cultural systems clashed in hundreds of ideological and practical concepts - their ideas of land ownership, properties, ideas of treaties money and boundaries, etc... Sitting Bull, the Métis Riel in Manitoba before being hang by the English, Geronimo, Chief Seatlle, etc.. all has been said and done, look around you, look at what the values you embrace is doing to humans, animals, birds, vegetations, fishes, water, soil, etc... Idle no more, idle no more Snowy Owl

====
"Vous êtes déjà si misérables que
vous ne pouvez le devenir plus. Quels genre d'homme doivent
être les Européens? Quelle espèce de
créature choisissent-ils d'être, forcés
de faire le bien et n'ayant pour éviter le mal
d'autre inspiration que la peur de la punition? (...)
L'homme n'est pas seulement celui qui marche debout sur ses jambes, qui sait la lecture et l'écriture et montrer mille exemples de son industrie... En vérité mon cher frère, je te plains du plus profond de mon âme. Suis mon conseil et devient Huron.
Je vois clairement la profonde différence entre ma condition et la tienne. Je suis le maître de ma condition. Je suis le maître de mon corps, j'ai l'entière disposition de moi-même, je fais ce qui me plaît, je suis le premier et le dernier de ma nation, je ne crains absolument aucun homme, je dépends seulement du Grand Esprit.
Il n'en est pas de même pour toi. Ton corps aussi bien que ton âme sont condamnés à dépendre de ton grand capitaine, ton vice-roi dispose de toi. Tu n'as pas la liberté de faire ce que tu as dans l'esprit. Tu as peur des voleurs, des assassins, des faux-témoins, etc. Et tu dépends d'une infinité de personne dont la place est située au-dessus de la tienne. N'est-ce pas vrai ?"
Kondiarionk, chef Huron, s'adressant au baron de Lahontan, lieutenant français en Terre-Neuve"


Khondiaronkh, the Rat (non pejorative name for Huron/Wendat here) was quite a Chief. British, United-Statians, Canadian Dominion, the Catholic Churche have twist history like mad frustrated and fearfull kids. But, Alas! History has Roots, grows and bear Fruits in due Time.

I thank you Houman to bring forth Kondiaronkh since has an Historian, it gives me the opportunity to share an historical precedent that happened in Montreal Between 1701 and 1707 called the International Peace gathering. I will make a thread on this specific event since this Trail has already been blaze three hundred years ago via the French Governor de Callières.

Today, in old Montreal, on the east side of ''La Pointe à Callières'' there is a tribune of marble and we can see the signature of all the First Nations CHiefs present at the Peace Conference. As you know, First Nations are Oral Tradition People but each chief draw his name and among them of course we can see Kondiaronkh signature.
More to come...
Snowy Owl

spiritguide
9th January 2013, 15:50
If one chooses to think it is about materialism and prestige through it, fine. The First Nation's prestige has always been the spirit of giving. Mother Earth gives of her abundance freely and the harmony of life for the natives is to give back to her the abundant health she has shared. Universal creation is giving always and to take and not return is against it's laws of existence. If one fears the love of all, they should have feared birth beforehand. There is no space in the heart energies for materialism. IMHO

SnowyOwl
9th January 2013, 15:54
dont forget the Northern white tribes -- they will be with you too as they are with Palestine. Some of the other Northern tribes are a little farther removed but if you beat the drums a little louder you will get to most of them too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?G8pzlK3ZCYI

Why do you think that canada and us as mexico, so on and so forth cannot condemn israel colonisation of palestinian territory, since this is how all countries in the new world has been developped, via brutal genocide, ethnic cleansing, barbaric invasion and all kind of ways that are too abject and horrific to describe.

The Great Turtle, except for some shade places, is a occupy Land by greedy ones.
Snowy

SnowyOwl
9th January 2013, 15:59
If the actions you choose are not sharp..........., slippage causes accidents.


As I see it, the dangerous ground is in the middle between raw shock to wake people....

....... and precise surgical doings that are carefully planned by very well prepared people who've done all their long term background research.

This is where I respect Alex Jones for his raw shock.... and also hold a candle of prayer for the secret operators who don't seek the limelight but are really out there doing stuff to fight this battle.

That, to me, is a winning formula.

Getting ambitious with the waking process is a folly.

All it takes to wake someone up is a loud crack or a good nudge. Once that is done, don't burn their ears off with half baked ideas you wouldn't even put into practice yourself.


... as obviously, what cannot be said must be silence.
Snowy

SnowyOwl
9th January 2013, 16:31
Somewhere, on a darker side of the dice, from http://www.henrymakow.com/the-fallacy-of-indigeonous.html:

The Fallacy of Indigenous Nationhood
January 7, 2013


http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/protest4.jpg


KEVIN ANNETT SAYS NEW INDIAN PROTEST MOVEMENT, "IDLE NO MORE," IS A GOVERNMENT-SANCTIONED PUBLICITY STUNT TO LEND CRED TO UNCLE TOM NATIVE CHIEFS

NATIVES ARE NOW NO DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF CANADIANS - EXCEPT 82 OF THEIR CHIEFS MAKE MORE MONEY THAN WHITE CHIEF STEPHEN HARPER, THE PRIME MINISTER

Our original elders were all wiped out by the smallpox wars. They died first, and with them, all of our real traditions. What survives today from our old ways? I'll tell you: nothing.

- Siem Maquinna, Earl George of the Ahousahts, to the author, Port Alberni, May 1995

All of the data indicates that nations at war suffering mortality rates exceeding 25% are permanently traumatized and destroyed, for they are incapable of ever recovering their pre-war integrity. They become for all practical purposes ghost societies.
- United States Air Force Manual on War and Counter-Insurgency, Washington, spring 1983

We've created a completely new Indian society and we're the new leaders of it. It's a done deal.
- Wendy Grant-John, government Indian and "chief" of the Musqueam Tribal Council, April 2006


by Kevin Annett
(abridged by henrymakow.com)

Indigenous nationhood, like Democracy or Christianity, is a wonderful idea; and wonderfully absent, in practice.

None of us have ever actually experienced these ideals - and yet how passionately we pretend to. In truth, we settle for cheap facsimiles of these visions that our various rulers convince us are the Real Deal. And sadly, we've believed their lie for so long that even now we teach it to one another, and to our children.

Let me leave aside the matter of Democracy, and Christianity, since I'm sure my gentle readers will need little convincing that marking ten ballots in one's lifetime and sitting in boredom in a church pew for an hour doesn't amount to much of anything. But I expect I'll have tougher sledding when it comes to tackling the fallacy of Indigenous nationhood.

The hard historical truth is that all genuine indigenous nations were historically uprooted and expunged by European colonialism within a few generations of contact.

All of them.

On average, more than 90% of the indigenous people and their nations in the western hemisphere were eventually exterminated by European weapons and diseases, starting with the oldest people, the learned, and the carriers of tradition and authority. The butchery began in 1492 in the Caribbean and ended around 1910 on Canada's west coast.

Killing off ninety percent of a people means, effectively, killing off all of a people. Recovery and continuity is impossible, especially after the children of the remnant populaces endure the massive brainwashing and cultural re-cloning fondly called Christian Education.

What remains today in the wake of this worst massacre in human history are not even pale imitations of those original nations, but something altogether new: namely, "ab-original" societies, manufactured by the conquering powers of church and state. For ab-original means, according to any dictionary, not of the original group.

NATIVE PEOPLE LIKE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURED

In none of the hundreds of native groups I've worked with over the decades, have more than a handful of people known even a smattering of their original languages; nor do they practice their traditional ways, since those ways are gone.

None of them can live off the land, or practice ceremonies and rituals going back centuries. Their attitudes and hopes are the same as everybody else. They all flock into the same malls, buy the same pointless things, and poison their kids at the same fast food dumps as the "whites". And most of them pay taxes and vote and call themselves Canadians.

But what's most important, most of these aboriginals acknowledge that their traditional nation is dead and gone.

There are rare exceptions. But native men and women who aren't caught up in the money-chasing game of aboriginal politics are the first to admit that they are not indigenous, and know nothing of who they are, and were.

These people are denied the financial rewards that come to Professional Indians in the political, legal and academic worlds who posture as "First Nations" - a term created by the Canadian government - and who say all the right phrases and wear all the right regalia.

The vast majority of natives who don't play the Professional Indian game are invisible to the rest of us. I only began to know them when I became an outcast from my own culture and began to share their alienation. The Professional Indians, contrarily, are the only ones that you are allowed to see.


http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/s3.jpg


After all, upon whom has your attention been riveted by the corporate media for many weeks now other than "Chief" Theresa Spence, the $85,000 a year pseudo-hunger striker who is the poster-person of the government-launched dissent-funneling operation known as Idle No More?

Of course, this kind of fraud is nothing new. Conquerors always create their own version of the ones they've destroyed. The same thing happened to my former people in the Gaelic Highlands after English bayonets and schools wiped us out after 1745.

The British aristocracy invented the kilt and other Scottish niceties in their ab-original version of what they had destroyed. And they put into power the same kind of puppet chieftains like Ms. Spence who posture in Canada under the banner of the impotent "Assembly of First Nations" (AFN).

It's all part of the deadly symbiosis set up when one culture exterminates another: the conquerors keep tokens of their victims around for their reassurance and consciences; and strangely, over time, they and their conquered learn to depend on and identify with each other.

In truth, that's because a colonized people are no longer a people, but an appendage - that's the Latin meaning of "colon" - of the bigger Body Politic of the Conquerors. The remnant ab-originals depend on that Body for their very life and identity. Ask any AFN chief what he or she would do without a pay cheque from Ottawa. Ask Theresa Spence. (http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/01/20130103-200333.html)

In Canada, as in America, the Pale Eaters - otherwise known as white people, since Assimilation means to eat someone - keep chewing up and swallowing ever more of the colonized peoples. They do so literally, by grabbing their children, their future, their lands and resources, and symbolically, by making the colonized perform for them to assuage their guilt and maintain the lie that Genocide didn't really happen in their country.

"IDLE NO MORE" A PUBLICITY STUNT

There is no authentic Indian leadership in Canada; how can there be, after all, in the wake of such a cunning arrangement? And so the AFN and other cardboard creations are collapsing, having zero credibility, starting with young native men and women.

And that's why the AFN has had to desperately create publicity stunts like Idle No More, to salvage themselves and the Pale Eaters who for now fund them.

So what does it all mean?

Actually, a lot, once we drop all our blinders.

The indigenous nations that we all once were have vanished, chewed up by a corporate global machine, and we stand now in need of a new definition that embraces our collective humanity and the natural law that has always been our true bedrock.

We, humanity, are in a final war for survival. But as long as we cling to all the false divisions and labels imposed on us by the rulers, we'll remain what we are: appendages of a thing that is killing our children, our souls, and our world. And we will all go under, regardless of our political correctness.

Who is an Elder, anyway? I guess we all become one, eventually. And I suppose that I am an Elder, now, after more than twenty years of struggle. But I don't need anybody to tell me that I am.
-----

The above analysis is indeed one made on apparences.

The best weapons in war must be kept in the shade as the most powerfull power of the FIrst Nations has been kept in most Nations in the knowledge of Mother Clans, Medicine Man and some Shamans. But of course Cartesian Minds cannot understand, nor empirically feel and therefore cannot acknowedge an insecable Truth that is out of their perceptions.

Cartesians, Sciences, are the manifestation of a Facist ''Entendement'' (Entendement is the Mind plus Knowledge + Memory + recurrant immages Longing + Imaginations + Prejudices + False premisses + false architechtonics + pretentious beliefs + manifactures MindSet, etc... and add The Unknown part) so here is why it is obvious for Franks to see as a fact that Cartesian Minds are facists, it is obvious.

When you cumulate Authority in the Realm that the Surroundings let you create Govern Mental,
And when you drive Deliberations powers Institutions, etc.. in GovernMentals that trigger Executive powers
(propaganda, police, army, microwaves, One Global Frequency, One World, etc..)
You are in dictator ship, obvious...
When it's minus 40 degrees it is cold

Snowy Owl
ex: (We want your good and we will manage to get it in all respect of Judgements, of Laws).

eaglespirit
9th January 2013, 16:40
We, humanity, are in a final war for survival. But as long as we cling to all the false divisions and labels imposed on us by the rulers, we'll remain what we are: appendages of a thing that is killing our children, our souls, and our world. And we will all go under, regardless of our political correctness.

SnowyOwl
9th January 2013, 17:32
If one chooses to think it is about materialism and prestige through it, fine. The First Nation's prestige has always been the spirit of giving. Mother Earth gives of her abundance freely and the harmony of life for the natives is to give back to her the abundant health she has shared. Universal creation is giving always and to take and not return is against it's laws of existence. If one fears the love of all, they should have feared birth beforehand. There is no space in the heart energies for materialism. IMHO

Kind SpiritGuide, I am Moved therefore you are InWind, The Wind ... Sailing...
This is a Fresh Breath that FEEL GOOD

Mother Earth is not alone, Father Sun and Peacefull Braves are Gathering these weeks Surbath Khalsa

...Around the traditional Fire,
All share PeaceFull Deep Breathing Calumet

''Because the Future ain't what it used to be''
Copyright © 1997, Snowy Owl, HyppoCampus, SeaHorse, EtherLove and your Humble Stubborn Nut Historian.
This is the Case NOW
ever since the beginning of the Long Time Darkness Snowy Owl Moon that began 2 weeks prior to Christmas 2012
and Certainly be even more intense and Imperative in the Wolf Moon beginning on January 11th
Objectives Facts in Daily Life will be enshrined accordingly to the Wolf Moon Consensus of 2013

Yes, Captain SpiritGuide, the majority of immigrants residing in the Great Turtle Land do not even know how to nourish itself.

SO, yes First Nations will give a hand, as usual and River Bridges Métis will demultiply.

Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence says she won't attend Friday's "working meeting" between First Nations chiefs and Prime Minister Stephen Harper, because the presence of Governor General. David Johnston is "integral" and he won't be there.
Britain is Bound by what they wrote with First Nations, treaties, etc... they are the first one to be deal with, as for Harper he has no Authority whatsoever, the Law is Clear, Harper has to be the Executive Power of the Consensus reached between First Nations and The AngleTerre Kingdom. At the same Time Cree, Innus.. all agreed terms of Peace of the Braves Act of Québec are unfolding.

Harfang des Neiges, Snowy Owl, Buho de las Nieves, ScheeEule

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Attawapiskat chief won't attend PM meeting in GG's absence

Theresa Spence calls Governor General's attendance 'integral'

CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/credit.html)

Posted: Jan 8, 2013 4:06 PM ET

Last Updated: Jan 9, 2013 11:57 AM ET



Harper look down
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/01/08/pol-governor-general-first-nations-friday-meeting.html

"We have sent a letter to Buckingham Palace and requesting that Queen Elizabeth II send forth her representative which is the Governor General of Canada," Spence said in a release. "I will not be attending Friday's meeting with the prime minister, as the Governor General's attendance is integral when discussing inherent and treaty rights."


Snowy

SnowyOwl
9th January 2013, 20:53
Update

Spence protesting treaty issues


The key demand of Spence, who has been declining solid food since Dec.11 as a form of protest, is a meeting between the Crown and First Nations to discuss what she characterizes as "treaty issues."
The Governor General was seen as an important participant for the meeting, because he represents the Crown, which negotiated the original treaties with aboriginal people.

...snip

The release from Spence's camp says Canada's legitimacy rests on the treaties made with First Nations ancestors.
"Canada is not acting in good faith and has set the tone this past week by releasing their approved audit through [Aboriginal] Affairs Canada and now the Governor General's absence at this critical meeting," the release said.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/01/09/pol-afn-look-ahead-friday-meeting.html


Snowy,


NOBLESSE OBLIGE....

spiritguide
9th January 2013, 23:32
Merci beaucoup ! Cowasuck clan - Abanaki

http://www.cowasuck.org/history/refuse.cfm

DeDukshyn
10th January 2013, 00:46
Somewhere, on a darker side of the dice, from ......<trimmed>.......
-----

The above analysis is indeed one made on apparences.

The best weapons in war must be kept in the shade as the most powerfull power of the FIrst Nations has been kept in most Nations in the knowledge of Mother Clans, Medicine Man and some Shamans. But of course Cartesian Minds cannot understand, nor empirically feel and therefore cannot acknowedge an insecable Truth that is out of their perceptions.

Cartesians, Sciences, are the manifestation of a Facist ''Entendement'' (Entendement is the Mind plus Knowledge + Memory + recurrant immages Longing + Imaginations + Prejudices + False premisses + false architechtonics + pretentious beliefs + manifactures MindSet, etc... and add The Unknown part) so here is why it is obvious for Franks to see as a fact that Cartesian Minds are facists, it is obvious.

When you cumulate Authority in the Realm that the Surroundings let you create Govern Mental,
And when you drive Deliberations powers Institutions, etc.. in GovernMentals that trigger Executive powers
(propaganda, police, army, microwaves, One Global Frequency, One World, etc..)
You are in dictator ship, obvious...
When it's minus 40 degrees it is cold

Snowy Owl
ex: (We want your good and we will manage to get it in all respect of Judgements, of Laws).


I agree. Labels are the weapons of the so called "Elite" -- look at what was done with labels vs proper "New Age" -- they used labels to demonize it for many -- including many here on Avalon who fully buy their labeling tricks, and react to them.

If any movement, any concept, any idea, text, or otherwise movement or structure is of benefit to humanity as a whole --- then this is good. It matters not the interpretations, spin doctoring, or labels. And just to be clear I am not talking about Amzer -- he was just a messenger for the idea he was expressing, for our considerations. Here is mine ;)

My 2 cents ;)

SnowyOwl
10th January 2013, 20:52
Governor General to meet with leaders

Earlier Thursday, the prime minister's office relented slightly and scheduled a ceremonial meeting between Gov. Gen. David Johnston and First Nations leaders tomorrow.




The ceremonial meeting will take place at 6:30 p.m. ET at Rideau Hall, following the working meeting, said Andrew MacDougall, a spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
Johnston had said that he wouldn't attend a working meeting on public policy, despite demands by some First Nations leaders, including Attawapiskat Chief Theresa Spence, that he be there in his role as the Queen's representative in Canada.
A First Nations source told CBC News that Atleo, Bellegarde and Wilson-Raybould met with Harper's staff last night to press for Johnston's attendance.




Spence has limited her food intake for the past month, consuming only herbal tea and fish broth since Dec. 11. She says she will continue her protest until the meeting happens and said she wouldn't stop unless Johnston was at the meeting.
4 hours scheduled for working meeting

It's not clear yet whether a ceremonial meeting will meet those demands, though Spence's spokesman called it a positive step. Danny Metatawabin said before Johnston's announcement that she will not attend the meeting on Friday unless Harper, Johnston, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty and First Nations leaders are in the same room, having discussions together.
The meeting comes after nearly two months of Idle No More protests by First Nations people, as well as Spence's month-long hunger strike.




The working meeting will be held at Langevin Block, the building that houses the prime minister's office, and is closed to media, a spokeswoman for Harper said in an email.
The meeting will start at 1 p.m. ET with remarks by Harper and Atleo, with a plenary session from 1:30 p.m. to 4 p.m. to discuss the treaty relationship, aboriginal rights and economic development.
Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Minister John Duncan and Treasury Board President Tony Clement will be at the plenary sessions.




Harper and Atleo will "engage in a dialogue" about the outcomes of the plenary session from 4 p.m. to 5 p.m.
'Nothing left to lose'

First Nations people in Canada have "nothing left to lose," the grand chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs told reporters Thursday morning, pointing to the problems with lack of housing, unsafe drinking water and poor health in the community.
"We're not here to make requests. We're here to demand attention. And to demand an end to 140 years of colonial rule," Derek Nepinak said.
The Manitoba chiefs distributed a list of 10 treaty principles in advance, affirming their sovereignty and that Canada "has an on-going obligation to fulfill the treaty according to the spirit and intent."
The variety of First Nations stakeholder groups have brought mixed messages on what they're seeking from Friday's meeting. Spence wanted Johnston to be at the meeting with Harper and other leaders, and refused to go there if Johnston wouldn't.
Nepinak says he backs Spence's demand for Johnston to be at the meeting with Harper. Spence is also demanding Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty be at the meeting.




Representatives from Idle No More have distanced themselves from the chiefs. The grassroots movement is also calling on the AFN to walk out of the meeting with Harper.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/01/10/pol-first-nations-chiefs-day-before-pm-meeting.html


Snowy

SnowyOwl
11th January 2013, 13:28
Canada: Prime Minister Harper Launches First Nations “Termination Plan” By Russell Diabo
Global Research, January 10, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/canada-prime-minister-harper-launches-first-nations-termination-plan/5318362


On September 4th (http://www.aadnc-aandc.gc.ca/eng/1346805886381/1346805926370) the Harper government clearly signaled its intention to:
1) Focus all its efforts to assimilate First Nations into the existing federal and provincial orders of government of Canada;
2) Terminate the constitutionally protected and internationally recognized Inherent, Aboriginal and Treaty rights of First Nations.
Termination in this context means the ending of First Nations pre-existing sovereign status through federal coercion of First Nations into Land Claims and Self-Government Final Agreements that convert First Nations into municipalities, their reserves into fee simple lands and extinguishment of their Inherent, Aboriginal and Treaty Rights.
To do this the Harper government announced three new policy measures:


A “results based” approach to negotiating Modern Treaties and Self-Government Agreements. This is an assessment process of 93 negotiation tables across Canada to determine who will and who won’t agree to terminate Inherent, Aboriginal and Treaty rights under the terms of Canada’s Comprehensive Claims and Self-Government policies. For those tables who won’t agree, negotiations will end as the federal government withdraws from the table and takes funding with them.
First Nation regional and national political organizations will have their core funding cut and capped. For regional First Nation political organizations the core funding will be capped at $500,000 annually. For some regional organizations this will result in a funding cut of $1-million or more annually. This will restrict the ability of Chiefs and Executives of Provincial Territorial organizations to organize and/or advocate for First Nations rights and interests.
First Nation Band and Tribal Council funding for advisory services will be eliminated over the next two years further crippling the ability of Chiefs and Councils and Tribal Council executives to analyze and assess the impacts of federal and provincial policies and legislation on Inherent, Aboriginal and Treaty rights.

Imposed Legislation

These three new policy measures are on top of the following unilateral federal legislation the Harper government is imposing over First Nations:


Bill C-27: First Nations Financial Transparency Act
Bill C-45: Jobs and Growth Act, 2012 [Omnibus Bill includes Indian Act amendments regarding voting on-reserve lands surrenders/designations]
Bill S-2: Family Homes on Reserves and Matrimonial Interests or Rights Act
Bill S-6: First Nations Elections Act
Bill S-8: Safe Drinking Water for First Nations
Bill C-428: Indian Act Amendment and Replacement Act [Private Conservative MP's Bill, but supported by Harper government]

Then there are the Senate Public Bills:


Bill S-207: An Act to amend the Interpretation Act (non derogation of aboriginal and treaty rights)
Bill S-212: First Nations Self-Government Recognition Bill



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Of course “modern” in Conservative terms means assimilation of First Nations by termination of their collective rights and off-loading federal responsibilities onto the First Nations themselves and the provinces.
One Bill that hasn’t been introduced into Parliament yet, but is still expected, is the First Nations’ Private Ownership Act (FNPOA). This private property concept for Indian Reserves – which has been peddled by the likes of Tom Flanagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Flanagan_%28political_scientist%29) and tax proponent and former Kamloops Chief Manny Jules – is also a core plank of the Harper government’s 2006 electoral platform.
The 2006 Conservative Aboriginal Platform promised that if elected a Harper government would:
“Support the development of individual property ownership on reserves, to encourage lending for private housing and businesses.”
The long-term goals set out in the Harper government’s policy and legislative initiatives listed above are not new; they are at least as old as the Indian Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Act) and were articulated in the federal 1969 White Paper on Indian Policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_White_Paper), which set out a plan to terminate Indian rights at the time.

CdnSirian
14th January 2013, 00:24
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http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/01/12/theresa-spence-walks-out-governor-general-meeting-continues-fasting-146939 (Saturday).