The most fantastic OBE I've ever had

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Just want to share the most fantastic OBE I´ve ever had. It happened just a few hours ago!

WOW!! It was amazing...

Usually, I have no control to where I´m going after starting an OBE and this was no exception.

Suddenly, I was in a beautiful place, I mean BEAUTIFUL, similar to Earth, on top of a mountain. The sky was slightly orange in color and there was some kind of snow but it was yellowish, instead of white.

The trees were gigantic, I mean, really gigantic, bigger than a Sequoia. The trees themselves made some sort of pulsating noise.

Even the ground and the rocks were a little odd; The rocks were very sandy and a little spongy...It was a great feeling to walk there.

From up there, I saw a medium city, around a huge lake. It was strange, because the buildings were made of wood and high tech materials. The architecture was so amazing that it was breathtaking...It was modest and sophisticated at the same time.

I took some time to observe this city, because unlike other OBEs I had in the past, I was 200% conscious and aware on this one; More than I am right now...

I was thinking to myself how beautiful it was and how amazing it would be to live in such place. I´ve never felt so complete before...So, I was really there and was astonished with the though that I was really there, not in a subjective way, but like in flesh and bone.

Then, after what seemed like hours observing the landscape, I was greeted by a young couple, pretty much humans. They were about 1.50m in height, very skinny, and they were BEAUTIFUL, really. I´m almost crying as I´m writing this now. There energy was like a field; When they approached me, I could feel that "woop" feeling, like I was being swallowed by energy and it felt pretty good.

The funny thing is that I can´t remember a word about what we talked about. I guess the communication happened through some sort of telepathic medium and my brain can´t convert/decode it to real words...The communications were like instant, there was no wasting time with long dialogues. They talked to me about everything they wanted to talk and I asked them everything I wanted in a matter of a fraction of a second.

So, the couple took me down a road, to their city.

Right there, in the city, people seemed happy to see me...There were some festivities going on, decorated with the most weird flours I´ve ever seen.

Anyway, the couple led me to a room where I met something like a council. I felt like I knew the people in the room were elders, but they looked as young as anybody else there. Everybody seemed to be on the same age...I felt like they were elders because of their energy; I could feel the wisdom through their energy.

The energy field each one had was like a greeting card; I could know all the basics about the person just by being next to him, like this, instantly. There was no need for introductions or talking.

Right there, in the middle of the room, I took my clothes off. They didn´t ask, I mean, with words; I just knew I should do it. There was no sexual intent whatsoever.

So, after taking my clothes off, some kind of nurse smeared me with some sort of cream, like sun lotion.

Another folk approached and put a small bottle filled with a green liquid on the palm of my right hand. I know I wasn´t supposed to drink that stuff instantly, but I didn´t know what I was supposed to do with it just yet.

The meeting room was above the lake, built on some sort of docking structure. I entered alone into some sort of sail boat, a very neat one.

The boat itself was all seamless. I was like it was sculpted from one piece of one single material. I couldn´t identify the material, I mean, I don´t know if it was plastic, metal or glass...It really was something out of this world.

There were no controls or buttons at all. The interior was just one space with nothing inside it, but I could feel it was incredible technology. Pure simplicity.

The boat was automated and it took me along the lake, to a cave entrance. I started to walk into the cave. There was no fear.

The cave was so beautiful! I took some time to walk around it and relaxed for a while...I just took another time to let myself understand that the whole thing was real and I was really there. No kidding, I was really there.

I knew that, back in my house, I should be just drooling on my pillow, having some sleep, but somehow I was actually somewhere else. I even though to myself "man, I can´t wait to tell the guys at Project Avalon about this!". lol.

Back to the cave, after taking some time to feel the place and observe the amazing light show that the reflections on the water were presenting, I proceeded to the cave exit. It was a small aperture about 500m ahead.

Folks, you wont believe what I saw...I saw a huge desert lowland, pretty much like the images we see from Mars. The energy coming from this part of their world was really menacing but I managed to control myself and stay calm.

I could see some buildings there, but they were like ruins, made of clay. There was fire everywhere and big explosions in the sky, like there was some sort of war going on.

I was way above the land, in the cave exit point, where a waterfall started. The waterfall itself formed a river down there, but the river was black like crude oil.

Then, somehow, I immediately knew what to do with the green liquid filled bottle.

I poured it in the water current and that´s it...I felt that classic "wooosh" OBE feeling and woke up.

I still don´t know what to make of it yet and I´d love to hear your thoughts about this experience.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Jean-Luc]

Thanks Raf, including your thoughts for "us" while over there :)

Pretty amazed how sharp & crystal clear our recollection of this whole event is.

I am no expert in the field, by far. But the OBE issue is catching more and more of my attention.

[westhill]

Hey RMorgan...
You mentioned Mars.

http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/01_03_2013_mars-water1.jpg

What Would Mars Have Looked Like Covered in Water?
by Erin McCarthy - January 4, 2013 - 12:00 PM

The western hemisphere of Mars, with the volcano Olympus Mons on the horizon. Photo courtesy Kevin Gill.In September,
NASA announced that the Curiosity rover found remnants of an ancient stream bed on Mars—evidence that our red neighbor
was, at one point, a blue planet covered in water. Now, Kevin Gill, a software engineer, has given us a vision of what a
watery Mars might have looked like. According to Smithsonian’s Smart News blog, Gill used elevation measurements based
on the observations of NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter to create his vision. But he also took artistic liberties with
his creation by exaggerating the topographic features approximately 10 times, choosing the height of the atmosphere and
its clouds, determining a consistent sea level, and picking what areas would be covered by forest and desert. “I tried to
envision how the land would appear given certain features or the effects of likely atmospheric climate,” the engineer writes
on his Google+ page. “For example, I didn’t see much green taking hold within the area of Olympus Mons and the surrounding
volcanoes, both due to the volcanic activity and the proximity to the equator (thus a more tropical climate).”To create the deserts,
Gill used textures from the Sahara and the sands in Australia, and based the tropical and subtropical greens on the rainforests
in South America and Africa. “As the terrain gets higher or lower in latitude I added darker flora along with tundra and glacial
ice,” he writes. “These northern and southern areas textures are largely taken from around northern Russia.”

Photo courtesy Kevin Gill.Gill hopes that his blue marble version of Mars will trigger the imagination, even if it isn’t a totally
scientific vision.

http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/01_03_2013_mars-water-2.jpg

[Libico]

Incredible experience RMorgan - thanks for sharing!

I've had a number of OBEs but nothing quite like this and it really fills me with happiness for you that you had such a wonderful experience.

[Earthship]

Hi, Raf, very amazing your OBE, it triggers a lot of questions (three, to begin with):


because unlike other OBEs I had in the past, I was 200% conscious and aware on this one; More than I am right now...
Raf, compared to a normal state of being awake during a normal day, how much was the difference between you OBE and being awke? If, as you said, you were more conscious there than righ now, that is really amazing... (It reminds me of the experiences of those who have had NDEs - just a thought).



It was strange, because the buildings were made of wood and high tech materials. The architecture was so amazing that it was breathtaking...It was modest and sophisticated at the same time.
Could you be more specific? Could you be able to draw some detailed images related to it?:happy:


I felt that classic "wooosh" OBE feeling and woke up.
Raf, which technique did you use to get this OBE?

Raf, thanks in advance for your answers…!!

[RMorgan]

Hi, Raf, very amazing your OBE, it triggers a lot of questions (three, to begin with):


because unlike other OBEs I had in the past, I was 200% conscious and aware on this one; More than I am right now...
Raf, compared to a normal state of being awake during a normal day, how much was the difference between you OBE and being awke? If, as you said, you were more conscious there than righ now, that is really amazing... (It reminds me of the experiences of those who have had NDEs - just a thought).



It was strange, because the buildings were made of wood and high tech materials. The architecture was so amazing that it was breathtaking...It was modest and sophisticated at the same time.
Could you be more specific? Could you be able to draw some detailed images related to it?:happy:


I felt that classic "wooosh" OBE feeling and woke up.
Raf, which technique did you use to get this OBE?

Raf, thanks in advance for your answers…!!


Hey mate,

Well, I was much more aware than I am right now. It was like I was using my full potential. It´s close to impossible to describe...It made me feel like my normal awakened state is nothing but a dream and I was suddenly awake for the first time in my life...I felt like all my senses were one, not separated like in our reality.

Man, I think I´m not up to the task of drawing those buildings. I just can´t convert them to ink. It was like the structures and the technology were united in molecular level. The houses were made of what it seemed to be wood, but there was energy incorporated to the wood...I can´t do justice to such an outstanding view.

In fact, the buildings were made with wooden logs, or at least appeared to be, but I believe somehow that the whole city worked as an electronic circuit. Each building was energetically connected to each other...I could feel eat, I mean, the connection.

Well, the trees themselves were pulsating some kind of energy...Maybe they had found a way to connect everything into some sort of neural network.

About the OBE itself, I didn´t use any technique this time, despite knowing a few techniques that are basically all the same: Relax, feel the energy circling through your body, concentrate on these energetic vibrations until they start to become really strong, feel yourself inflating like a balloon and just let go...and the most important thing; don´t let adrenaline kick in, or you wont succeed. Fear is the OBE killer.

This one came naturally, I just felt the "wooosh" and I was there.

Feel free to ask any more questions.

Raf.

[GloriousPoetry]

Raf,
Wow what a magical experience! Thank you for sharing. How can you come back to this place after being in such an expansive world? How do you do away with the fear factor regarding OBEs? A few years ago I had what some people refer to as 'mind split and I began to feel this expansiveness as if my physical state was diminishing. I don't know if this was leading me to an OBE experience but I was too afraid to let go and therefore remained in a limbo space for about 45 minutes. I knew that if I would not have been afraid it would have been an amazing experience.

[RMorgan]

Raf,
Wow what a magical experience! Thank you for sharing. How can you come back to this place after being in such an expansive world? How do you do away with the fear factor regarding OBEs? A few years ago I had what some people refer to as 'mind split and I began to feel this expansiveness as if my physical state was diminishing. I don't know if this was leading me to an OBE experience but I was too afraid to let go and therefore remained in a limbo space for about 45 minutes. I knew that if I would not have been afraid it would have been an amazing experience.

Well...That´s why I think there are some rules with this OBE thing.

If it was really up to me, I wouldn´t have returned and probably my family and friends would be crying in front of my empty body...This is a terrifying thought, I mean, thinking that I would be so selfish to the point of abandoning all my loved ones down here, just for the sake of living on an apparently better place...Causing so much suffering for my own benefit...It´s just wrong.

I´m thankful there is some unknown regulatory mechanism regarding such experience. I really am, because I´m happy to be here right now, with my family and friends close to me.

I believe one can´t simply stay away for long, otherwise, a lot of people would be in a unexplained comma state down here, puzzling the medical society.

About the fear during OBEs, there´s no simple way for dealing with it. You´ll have to learn to deal with your fear before you succeed, otherwise you´ll just have more frustrating experiences as you described above.

I believe OBEs are a very safe experience. Whenever I had experienced something bad during one, I was instantly back to the comfort of my bed. There´s no real reason to be afraid. Just think about it.

Raf.

[meat suit]

wow Raf,
that sounds amazing.... I am so pleased that you, beeing one of the 'critical guys' had this clear expierience... :cool:
how many OBEs have you had so far?

cheers

meat

[RMorgan]

wow Raf,
that sounds amazing.... I am so pleased that you, beeing one of the 'critical guys' had this clear expierience... :cool:
how many OBEs have you had so far?

cheers

meat

Hey mate,

Man, I believe such phenomenon will be fully explained by science soon enough, specially with the advances in quantum physics...At least I hope so, so we can use it for the sake of humanity´s evolution.

There´s much more than our bodies, than this extremely restrict physical reality...This isn´t about 3D, 4D, etc...It´s about something much bigger than that. It´s beyond reason and shallow philosophies.

I believe our current reality is an anchor point and we´re adapted to live here, but we can go anywhere for brief periods of time...Maybe one day we´ll be able to transcend this limitation and choose to live whenever we want.

Time is another weird thing, since I have the sensation that I´ve spent about some 18 hours there, while it may have lasted just a few minutes down here...

Anyway, I´ve had many experiences, some were quite strong, but this one was the strongest so far because of the awareness factor. I was just so aware of what I was experiencing.

A few years ago, I started to experiment a lot with OBEs, trying to voluntarily provoke them, after a certain event happened in my life. During this period, I had a few nice experiences and a few bad ones. I was taken to bad places as well, but didn´t remain there for long, thankfully.

The most amazing OBEs I´ve ever had, like this one, were involuntary. They happened naturally, like some sort of calling.

Nowadays, I don´t even think about OBEs anymore. Whenever they happen, it´s great. If they don´t happen, that´s great as well...I just let life flow naturally.

The thing about such kind of amazing OBEs, is that they change you; Not in conscious level, but in some other way I can´t describe.

Cheers,

Raf.

[delfine]

Wow beautiful! Thanks for sharing RMorgan.

[Dennis Leahy]

Astounding!

I have only had one brief NDE/OBE experience where I was floating above my body - but I know (or at least have a glimpse) of the fact that you know it is real, not imagined, not a dream, not a hallucination. Completely real.

Raf, thank you for taking the time to share your experience - as best you could with words.

Dennis

[peace]

As a fellow "critical guy" and also having and OBE myself, involuntarily - some years ago, I loved this.

Would you mind sharing how you started your experimentation or direct me on the right path of research?

I'm glad you experienced this, my friend. Sounds amazing.

[meat suit]

hey Raf..... you ascended....:p

[Jean-Luc]

Truly fascinating, thanks for sharing Raf.

At least I now have some idea where to search you if we can't get in touch in Belo Horizonte in a couple of days

Look forward to sharing this 'life', though ;)

[RMorgan]

As a fellow "critical guy" and also having and OBE myself, involuntarily - some years ago, I loved this.

Would you mind sharing how you started your experimentation or direct me on the right path of research?

I'm glad you experienced this, my friend. Sounds amazing.

Well, this one was involuntary, but the techniques for provoking an OBE/OOBE are pretty much the same.

If you´re familiar with meditation, then it´s really easy to get started.

The Monroe technique (http://www.manannan.net/occult/monroe.html) is what fits me better:

You have to first relax your body. This is a very important step.

Then try to go to sleep, but don't fall asleep. Maintain your awareness between sleep and wakefulness. This is known as the hypnagogic state. Then deepen this hypnagogic state and start to clear your mind of unwanted thoughts. Simply look through your closed eyelids at the blackness in front of you.

Then you must enter an even deeper state of relaxation. The next step is to induce vibrations throughout your body and intensify them. These vibrations have to be controlled and intensified further. This is the moment when the Astral body will separate from the Physical body. You then simply have to "roll-over" and you will find yourself out of your body.


hey Raf..... you ascended....:p

LOL!!Nah...I just went somewhere else for a brief period of time. ;)


Truly fascinating, thanks for sharing Raf.

At least I now have some idea where to search you if we can't get in touch in Belo Horizonte in a couple of days

Look forward to sharing this 'life', though ;)

Hopefully, my friend, we´ll share a few beers in a couple of days, so I can tell you this experience in person. :)

Raf.

[Nat_Lee]

I did had an OBE I think just this morning between 9:30h and 10:30 ish AM.

Look at my dream tread....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53408-2012-12-21-dreams&p=612746#post612746

[RMorgan]

I did had an OBE I think just this morning between 9:30h and 10:30 ish AM.

Look at my dream tread....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53408-2012-12-21-dreams&p=612746#post612746


Hey Nat,

Judging by your written report, you may have had an OBE, but locally.

It´s very common, during OBEs, that we don´t go anywhere far. We stay in our homes.

The difference is that reality, even in a familiar place, as your own house, looks completely different...Things just look weird.

By my experience, there are two different kinds of OBEs.

One is local, when you stay near your physical body...Usually, you can´t move normally and experience bad motor coordination...It´s like floating in your own home. This is like an OBE´s "limbo"; from there you can go anywhere with the proper practice, I guess.

The other kind is when you go to completely different places, maybe planets, dimensions or even other universes...who knows...I usually move myself very well in this situation, with little or none motor coordination difficulties.

The more important thing is try as hard as you can to stay aware. The more you concentrate on being aware, the more you enjoy the experience...And, of course, don´t let fear kick in, because adrenaline will bring you back.

Raf.

[Peace of Mind]

Sounds like a nice place to live. The pouring of green liquid (my favorite color, btw) may symbolize life/flora. Perhaps you were pouring your love/energy into to the murky waters in hopes of purifying it/blessing it. The flow of this green liquid may bring prosperity and life to that region of the world that seems to be heading for death. Just my opinion…

Peace

[white wizard]

Very interesting experience you had I cant find anything in there to make me question

what you truly experienced. The research I have done clearly shows that in highly

advanced states of consciousness you reach a state of just knowing, which cancels

out the need for communication, which you experienced. The hard part know is

figuring out why you had that experience, because most people do not just go

through what you saw for no reason and there is a deep message they are trying

to communicate to you. The universe speaks in symbols so try using that.

I several years ago had an OBE where i was placed in front of a green star in

another dimension. I later found out the only reason I had this experience was

to give me motivation to not loose hope and that better places awaited my return.

Ok I read your post again thinking symbolically and what happened might represent

where you are from( that beautiful planet)and those beings are your people

You are sent here to planets in Turmoil(like that desert planet)to restore life.

The stuff you put on your body may represent your energy shields, which

you use to deal with negative enviroments like earth. I carry energy shields also

because of the vast difference in vibrations from were I reside to Earth.

That OBE may have been to show you what your purpose here is so you can

focus on it and acheive it in this life time

[mab777]

Hi Raf,

Thanks for sharing your personal experience.
Very interesting !

[RMorgan]

Very interesting experience you had I cant find anything in there to make me question

what you truly experienced. The research I have done clearly shows that in highly

advanced states of consciousness you reach a state of just knowing, which cancels

out the need for communication, which you experienced. The hard part know is

figuring out why you had that experience, because most people do not just go

through what you saw for no reason and there is a deep message they are trying

to communicate to you. The universe speaks in symbols so try using that.

I several years ago had an OBE where i was placed in front of a green star in

another dimension. I later found out the only reason I had this experience was

to give me motivation to not loose hope and that better places awaited my return.

Ok I read your post again thinking symbolically and what happened might represent

where you are from( that beautiful planet)and those beings are your people

You are sent here to planets in Turmoil(like that desert planet)to restore life.

The stuff you put on your body may represent your energy shields, which

you use to deal with negative enviroments like earth. I carry energy shields also

because of the vast difference in vibrations from were I reside to Earth.

That OBE may have been to show you what your purpose here is so you can

focus on it and acheive it in this life time

Thanks mate,

Very insightful.

Looks like you know how hard it is to figure out such complex experiences...

And yes, I feel like I have a sort of a mission here, but I have no idea about it yet.

I hope I can figure it out in this lifetime, indeed...I know I´m trying! :)

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: I actually didn´t drink the green liquid. I had poured it in the water stream, which makes things even more confusing.

[sirdipswitch]

Excellent tale RMorgan, and the main reason that I maintain my "Secret Of The Soul" thread. So that all can learn how to do obe's on a daily basis, as I do, and then you can go explore other worlds and races, anytime you wish. When you Commune with your HS/Source, and then travel with It, you will learn so much more in your travels. Communion with Your HS/Source, is the key to remembering who and what You are, and regaining Your Power, as the True Spirit, that you are.You will then be able to "slip" in and out of body, anytime you wish. Go anywhere you wish, anytime you wish, and not go back to your body untill you wish. So much better than being slammed back home without control of it.
:wizard:

[GloriousPoetry]

Gracias Raf,
Do you practice meditation? How long have you been experiencing OBEs?

Gloria

[RMorgan]

Gracias Raf,
Do you practice meditation? How long have you been experiencing OBEs?

Gloria

You´re welcome, Gloria.

Well, as I said, I used to practice OBEs, but I don´t do it anymore. I´ve practiced it intensively for about two years in the past, but the natural ones are the best.

However, I have the habit to meditate for at least an hour, daily. I´ve been doing it for about ten years or so.

Cheers,

Raf.

[RUSirius]

Gracias Raf,
Do you practice meditation? How long have you been experiencing OBEs?

Gloria

You´re welcome, Gloria.

Well, as I said, I used to practice OBEs, but I don´t do it anymore. I´ve practiced it intensively for about two years in the past, but the natural ones are the best.

However, I have the habit to meditate for at least an hour, daily. I do it for about ten years or so.

Cheers,

Raf.

Hey Raf, the fact that you are the age you are and have been actively practicing or participating in meditation for 1/3rd of your life, and you have the high quality insights that you have, and you just experienced a very cool place in your travels, and you feel like you are here for a reason, says to me you're doing tons of "correct" things in this life, and you are well on your way to fulfilling your ever-so-near goals. However I cannot prove this, this is just my opinion. Really like the descriptions you gave of this place. All the best.
Jeff

[RMorgan]

Hey Raf, the fact that you are the age you are and have been actively practicing or participating in meditation for 1/3rd of your life, and you have the high quality insights that you have, and you just experienced a very cool place in your travels, and you feel like you are here for a reason, says to me you're doing tons of "correct" things in this life, and you are well on your way to fulfilling your ever-so-near goals. However I cannot prove this, this is just my opinion. Really like the descriptions you gave of this place. All the best.
Jeff

Thanks so much, Jeff, my friend.

I hope you´re right. I´m really trying hard to give my best. :)

Raf.

[Carmody]

hello Raf,

Astrologically, we have optimum conditions, regarding the astrology of the current set of position of the planets. This means their dark matter vibratory oscillating patterns and their integrations and how they affect/connect to the earth, in 3d linear timespace.

then, take that, and the point that your birthday (personal complex vibratory mode) is in a near exact Trine (120degrees) to the current conditions, which means it is favorable to and for your given self, right now.

This also ties into a friend of mine, who is a sensitive. He has been put on SSRI's on occasion, due to various reasons. one being is that he skips in and out of 'reality' if he is not drugged.

The normal mode for him, when he skips out, is to a place that has orange skies. (that this starts, for him, when the skies here, in his waking life.. - turn orange.) A minor and weak correlation, to be sure, but..there it is.

[Freed Fox]

If it was really up to me, I wouldn´t have returned and probably my family and friends would be crying in front of my empty body...This is a terrifying thought, I mean, thinking that I would be so selfish to the point of abandoning all my loved ones down here, just for the sake of living on an apparently better place...Causing so much suffering for my own benefit...It´s just wrong.



Hey Raf, thanks very much for sharing all of this. I believe I've been on the OBE threshold numerous times, but have not experienced one fully. I know you said that you meditate, and once practiced methods of Astral projection, but which do you think was more of a catalyst for these experiences (particularly the involuntary type)? Also do you think you'll start practicing again after this experience?

I hate to say it, but I feel the same as the above quote (that I would probably choose to stay, if possible). I know I felt that way when I had reached the aforementioned threshold; that if I could make it to the other side of the veil, I'd keep going and not look back. I understand also the apprehension and guilt regarding leaving loved ones behind, but in my opinion it's kind of inevitable that we will leave them eventually anyway... You are probably right, that consciously choosing to do so before the natural time would be selfish...

I wonder, was this another planet, a higher dimension, or perhaps even Earth's future? You described the strange appearance of things, but was there any clear indication that you were on this planet or another? My assumption about the orange skies was that it was perhaps dusk at the time?

Thanks again, I'm happy for you but admittedly a bit jealous. OBE's have only recently come onto my radar, and I intend to start truly delving into this in earnest very soon. The link you provided should be helpful.

[soleil]

amazing experience raf!!!! honestly awesome!

[ghostrider]

I love reading this kind of experience, the more the mind is opened , the more obe is talked about, the more normal it will be and be accessed by everyone. Like flipping on the light switch in your room. The ptb might control the body through impules and vibrations, but the astral body hmmm ... there is the real battleground where we can fight like super heroes... try projecting to the ptb's secret places, he he ho ho , hint... I propose an experiment, lets project to the dark side of the moon, and tell what we see, then someone else pick a spot , and lets find out what the heck is going on for ourselves in our own way ...

[mosquito]

Beautiful Raf, thanks. As you sit silently with your experience, I'm sure the meaning will come through to you, if indeed it needs to :cool:

[Selene]

Utterly wonderful, Raf. What an experience! Many, many thanks for sharing such pure magic with us in such exquisite detail.

FreedFox asked, and I share his question:


I wonder, was this another planet, a higher dimension, or perhaps even Earth's future? ……was there any clear indication that you were on this planet or another…?

I’m a “spontaneous” OBE’er or lucid dreamer, myself. So I’ve had moments of being in incredible places – nothing as detailed as yours here – but I always wonder exactly the same thing: Where was I? or when? I know for certain (since I’ve travelled "normally" extensively) that I’m not anywhere on this planet in the present age – sometimes I am, but that’s different – but other than that….? Sometimes everything seems quite "normal" in an OBE or lucid dream until someting head-swivelingly modern or advanced turns up.

Love to hear your ideas here.

Many thanks,

Selene

[Hamish]

Hello

What a fascinating experience you had.

Please if you happen to know more about the place you were, etc. please let us know.

[AwakeInADream]

Hi Raf!:)

The automated boat thing reminds me of an initiation into the Ancient Mystery Schools, where you would be pushed out to sea in a boat without a paddle, and if you came back to shore alive, you were in. Since there was a little danger after the boat trip, which you managed to overcome, maybe that means you have been accepted? It certainly seems that some higher entities have taken an interest in you, and possibly given you a job to do. Fascinating stuff!:)

How were the council dressed? White robes?

[RMorgan]

If it was really up to me, I wouldn´t have returned and probably my family and friends would be crying in front of my empty body...This is a terrifying thought, I mean, thinking that I would be so selfish to the point of abandoning all my loved ones down here, just for the sake of living on an apparently better place...Causing so much suffering for my own benefit...It´s just wrong.



Hey Raf, thanks very much for sharing all of this. I believe I've been on the OBE threshold numerous times, but have not experienced one fully. I know you said that you meditate, and once practiced methods of Astral projection, but which do you think was more of a catalyst for these experiences (particularly the involuntary type)? Also do you think you'll start practicing again after this experience?

I hate to say it, but I feel the same as the above quote (that I would probably choose to stay, if possible). I know I felt that way when I had reached the aforementioned threshold; that if I could make it to the other side of the veil, I'd keep going and not look back. I understand also the apprehension and guilt regarding leaving loved ones behind, but in my opinion it's kind of inevitable that we will leave them eventually anyway... You are probably right, that consciously choosing to do so before the natural time would be selfish...

I wonder, was this another planet, a higher dimension, or perhaps even Earth's future? You described the strange appearance of things, but was there any clear indication that you were on this planet or another? My assumption about the orange skies was that it was perhaps dusk at the time?

Thanks again, I'm happy for you but admittedly a bit jealous. OBE's have only recently come onto my radar, and I intend to start truly delving into this in earnest very soon. The link you provided should be helpful.

Hi my friend,

Well, I believe that meditating is 99% of the OBE practice and, since I´ve been meditating regularly for quite some time, I guess it was the most helpful resource.

I wont start practicing OBEs again, for several reasons. When I was practicing (maybe forcing) it, the results were not quite desirable...To cut a long story short, I believe I had drawn unnecessary attention from certain entities I´ve been trying to avoid since I was a kid...Not that it´s a big deal, but I don´t feel like opening myself to a whole lot of trouble. I´m excessively sensitive and I always thought I should keep some doors closed.

Anyway, it is much better when it comes naturally, but I guess it took some practice before it could happen this way, specially relating to the mastery of fear, which is very hard to control while starting and OBE.

About the place I was, I really have no idea...It was another place, not Earth, or at least the Earth we´re used to. Everything was similar, but different...It could have been another dimension, another planet, another universe...Honestly, I don´t know.

I encourage you to start experimenting with some OBE techniques, indeed. I´m sure you´ll like the results. :)


Hi Raf!:)

The automated boat thing reminds me of an initiation into the Ancient Mystery Schools, where you would be pushed out to sea in a boat without a paddle, and if you came back to shore alive, you were in. Since there was a little danger after the boat trip, which you managed to overcome, maybe that means you have been accepted? It certainly seems that some higher entities have taken an interest in you, and possibly given you a job to do. Fascinating stuff!:)

How were the council dressed? White robes?

This is quite a good insight, my friend.

It really could be something like this.

I also can´t stop thinking about the lotion they had smeared on my skin...I think it was for protection.

Maybe they couldn´t be that close to the cave for some reason, so they asked me to do the job for them.

Thanks everyone for the kind replies! :)

Raf.

[Airwooz]

Since the first OBE waked me up, I am 100% confirmed that the alternate world does exist, but I have never travel to another planet other than hovering on my bed....fascinating

[dim]

hmmm... 1.50 tall, highly telepathic, insanely advanced tech
not that i am expert or something but from what i have gathered so far sounds like Arcturians
but don't take my word for it

most of us visit our home worlds in our sleep but very rare to have a conscious tet a tet as it would trigger unbearable longing to hold
and as far as our mission goes, don't worry about it, you're already doing it

[Jeffrey]

Sounds like Lemuria, or Mu.

[777]

hmmm... 1.50 tall, highly telepathic, insanely advanced tech
not that i am expert or something but from what i have gathered so far sounds like Arcturians
but don't take my word for it

most of us visit our home worlds in our sleep but very rare to have a conscious tet a tet as it would trigger unbearable longing to hold
and as far as our mission goes, don't worry about it, you're already doing it

I would heartily agree with that diagnosis.

What a wonderful experience for you and thanks for sharing it!

[Maunagarjana]

That was a pleasure to read, Raf. Thanks for going into such detail. If you're going to tell such a story, tell it all the way, I say. Did you get a feeling that by going into the cave you were going somewhere else? The city by the lake seemed so different from what was through the cave exit. Maybe it was a dimensional portal of some kind, either natural or one they created. Just a thought.

[RMorgan]

That was a pleasure to read, Raf. Thanks for going into such detail. If you're going to tell such a story, tell it all the way, I say. Did you get a feeling that by going into the cave you were going somewhere else? The city by the lake seemed so different from what was through the cave exit. Maybe it was a dimensional portal of some kind, either natural or one they created. Just a thought.

Hey mate,

That´s quite possible.

When I had written this thread, the whole experience was very fresh. Now I don´t remember for sure if I felt anything different when I entered the cave.

Anyway, I can´t see how one would enter a cave in one world and get out on another, if not for some kind of portal indeed.

Raf.

[gs_powered]

Thanks for sharing raf, it really makes me feel happy on your behalf!
My first thought was this was a preparation for a future in which you will contribute to some sort of planet/collective consciousness healing, maybe right here on planet earth. Or maybe it's just my imagination :-)

[Deneon]

Wow that sounds like a great experience, thanks for sharing!

Especially the length of time you were in that world is unusual as far as I know. I don´t read many stories about being out of body for so long. I am so happy all you are sharing your experiences here. I haven´t had one myself yet, but I am trying. I would love to just be out of body for a few seconds, let alone experience these other worlds for hours :)