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jackovesk
10th January 2013, 13:52
They Are Getting Ready: “No Obvious Reason” For Why China Is Massively Boosting Stockpiles of Rice, Iron Ore, Precious Metals, Dry Milk

January 9th, 2013

If there were ever a sign that something is amiss, this may very well be it.


United Nations agricultural experts are reporting confusion, after figures show that China imported 2.6 million tons of rice in 2012, substantially more than a four-fold increase over the 575,000 tons imported in 2011.

The confusion stems from the fact that there is no obvious reason for vastly increased imports, since there has been no rice shortage in China. The speculation is that Chinese importers are taking advantage of low international prices, but all that means is that China’s own vast supplies of domestically grown rice are being stockpiled.

Why would China suddenly be stockpiling millions of tons of rice for no apparent reason?

Perhaps it’s related to China’s aggressive military buildup and war preparations in the Pacific and in central Asia.

If a 400% year-over-year increase in rice stockpiles isn’t enough to convince you the Chinese are preparing for a significant near-term event, consider that in Australia the country’s two major baby formula distributors have reported they are unable to keep up with demand for their dry milk formula products. Grocery stores throughout the country have been left empty of the essential infant staple as a result of bulk exports by the Chinese.


A surge in sales of one of Australia’s most popular brands of infant formula has led to an unusual sight for this wealthy nation: barren shelves in the baby aisle and even rationing of baby food in some leading retail outlets.

We’d be more apt to believe the Chinese were panic-buying baby formula had the Chinese milk scandal occurred recently. The problem is that it happened four years ago. Are we to believe the Chinese are just now realizing their baby food may be tainted?

In addition to the apparent build-up in food stocks, the Chinese are further diversifying their cash assets (denominated in US Dollars) into physical goods. In fact, in just a single month in 2012, the Chinese imported and stockpiled more gold than the entirety of the gold stored in the vaults of the European Central Bank (and did we mention they did this in one month?).

Their precious metals stockpiles have grown so quickly in recent years that Chinese official holdings remain a complete mystery to Western governments and it’s rumored that the People’s Republic may now be the second largest gold hoarding nation in the world, behind the United States.


We won’t know for sure until the official disclosure which will come when China is ready and not a moment earlier, but at the current run-rate of accumulation which is just shy of 1,000 tons per year, it is certainly within the realm of possibilities that China is now the second largest holder of gold in the world, surpassing Germany’s 3,395 tons and second only to the US.

But the Chinese aren’t just buying precious metals. They’re rapidly acquiring industrial metals as well.


Spot iron prices are up to an almost 15-month high at $153.90 per tonne. The rally in prices, which started in December 2012, is mainly due to China’s rebuilding of its stockpiles as the Asian giant gears to boost its economy, which in turn, could improve steel demand.

The official explanation, that China is preparing stockpiles in anticipation of an economic recovery, is quite amusing considering that just 8 months ago Reuters reported that China had an oversupply, so much so that their storage facilities had run out of room to store all the inventory!


When metals warehouses in top consumer China are so full that workers start stockpiling iron ore in granaries and copper in car parks, you know the global economy could be in trouble.

At Qingdao Port, home to one of China’s largest iron ore terminals, hundreds of mounds of iron ore, each as tall as a three-storey building, spill over into an area signposted “grains storage” and almost to the street.

Further south, some bonded warehouses in Shanghai are using carparks to store swollen copper stockpiles – another unusual phenomenon that bodes ill for global metal prices and raises questions about China’s ability to sustain its economic growth as the rest of the world falters.

Now, why would China be stockpiling even more iron (and setting 15 month price highs in the process) if they had massive amounts of excess inventory just last year?

Something tells us this has nothing to do with an economic recovery, or even economic theory in terms of popular mainstream analysis.

Why does China need four times as much rice year-over-year? Why purchase more iron when you already have a huge surplus? Why buy gold when, as Federal Reserve Chairmen Ben Bernanke suggests, it is not real money? Why build massive cities capable of housing a million or more people, and then keep them empty?

It doesn’t add up. None of it makes any sense.

Unless the Chinese know something we haven’t been made privy to.

Is it possible, in a world where hundreds of trillions of dollars are owed, where the United States indirectly controls most of the globe’s oil reserves, and where super powers have built tens of thousands of nuclear weapons and spent hundreds of billions on weapons of war (real ones, not those pesky semi-automatic assault rifles), that the Chinese expect things to take a turn for the worse in the near future?

The Chinese are buying physical assets – and not just representations of those assets in the form of paper receipts – but the actual physical commodities. And they are storing them in-country. Perhaps they’ve determined that U.S. and European debt are a losing proposition and it’s only a matter of time before the financial, economic and monetary systems of the West undergo a complete collapse.

At best, what these signs indicate is that the People’s Republic of China is expecting the value of currencies ( they have trillions in Western currency reserves) will deteriorate with respect to physical commodities. They are stocking up ahead of the carnage and buying what they can before their savings are hyper-inflated away.

At worst, they may very well be getting ready for what geopolitical analyst Joel Skousen warned of in his documentary Strategic Relocation, where he argued that some time in the next decade the Chinese and Russians may team up against the United States in a thermo-nuclear showdown.

Hard to believe? Maybe.

But consider that China is taking measures now, in addition to their stockpiling, that suggest we are already in the opening salvos of World War III. They have already taken steps to map our entire national grid – that includes water, power, refining, commerce and transportation infrastructure. They’re directly involved in hacking government and commercial networks and are responsible for what has been called the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. Militarily, the PRC has been developing technology like EMP weapons systems, capable of disabling our military fleets and the electrical infrastructure of the country as a whole, and has been caught red-handed manufacturing fake computer chips used in U.S. Navy weapons systems.

If you still doubt China’s intentions and expectations, look to other governments, including our own, for signs that someone, somewhere is planning for horrific worst-case scenarios:


The Russians have scheduled 5,000 underground bunkers for completion this year.
Europe rapidly designed, built and stocked the so-called Doomsday Seed Vault in Svalbard, Norway, which contains tens of thousands of varieties of seeds and is supposed to preserve them in the event of Armageddon style events like asteroid impacts or nuclear war.
The United States government has been stockpiling tens of millions of emergency meals and other supplies and regionalizing their emergency distribution centers across the country (curiously, those supplies never made it to Hurricane Sandy victims)
The government has purchased nearly 2 billion rounds of ammunition in the last few years.
The Pentagon has been Actively War Gaming ‘Large Scale Economic Breakdown’ and ‘Civil Unrest’
China recently made a call, through their Xinhua news agency, for the complete disarmament of the American population (Behind every blade of grass…)


Perhaps there’s a reason why former Congressman Roscoe Bartlett has warned, “those who can, should move their families out of the city.”

As Kyle Bass noted in a recent speech, “it’s just a question of when will this unravel and how will it unravel.”

Given how similar events have played out in history, we think you know how this ends.

It ends through war.

Governments around the world are stockpiling food, supplies, precious metals and arms, suggesting that there is foreknowledge of an impending event.

Should we be doing the same?

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/they-are-getting-ready-no-obvious-reason-for-why-chinese-rice-stockpiles-jumped-400-massive-boosts-in-dry-milk-iron-ore-precious-metals-imports_01092013

PS - Too many 'Factual Links' collated in this article, so 'click' the above 'link' to access...

I can tell you that 'Down-Under' there has been a 'MASSIVE' MSM/Advertising Campaign telling us all how good we've got it and the Food-Prices just keep getting going DOWN-DOWN...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGY1QFEmyQkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGY1QFEmyQk

They even Paid for 'Status-Quo' to tell us ALL how good we've got it...:faint:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BZt6lumdlQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BZt6lumdlQ

PSS - What they 'WON'T TELL US' is how the Chinese especially are buying up our best food & water producing land fully backed by our Corrupt-Govt..!

Now you don't need t be a 'Rocket Scientist' to figure out whats just around the turnpike now do you...

Instead of 'Down-Down' the sheeple won't believe it when the prices start to go 'Up-Up' through the Roof along with the subsequent Food Shortages that go along with the PLAN...:lever::rapture:

EYES WIDE OPEN
10th January 2013, 14:56
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/they-are-getting-ready-no-obvious-reason-for-why-chinese-rice-stockpiles-jumped-400-massive-boosts-in-dry-milk-iron-ore-precious-metals-imports_01092013

Lifebringer
10th January 2013, 15:14
2/15/2013 may be the answer where NIBIRU actually is visible. Haven't you noticed how bright and brilliant the sun is? It's because there are two of em'. It's on the front of the sun now and hard to distinguish. China picked it up 6 months ago, when they launched their rocket.There is an excellent video of it on Youtube under "China launches Rocket. About 11 minutes into the video as the military at the space station are watching the last booster rockets and insuring separation, they give several views of the sun, a star or small planet brightly shining, in front of an enormous blue planet or sun?/doubt a sun, looks more like a planet larger than Jupiter, and then followed by a star.

I found it amazing to see the astrological course of this orbit so sharply visible, that I now understand why America won't translate their news in english, when it leaks out on YouTube. They can't stop "every eye"/video. Chinese pride themselves on being "honest" throughout their lives, and won't hide the news from their country, but other countries who have false media, like ours occassionally.

Youtube search: "China Launches Rocket" dated 6 months ago and then figure where the planet may be right at this second.

HalleluYah for the return of the Heavenly bodies.

panopticon
10th January 2013, 15:16
Thanks for the link EWO,

For those interested the title of the linked article is:
They Are Getting Ready: “No Obvious Reason” For Why China Is Massively Boosting Stockpiles of Rice, Iron Ore, Precious Metals, Dry Milk (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/they-are-getting-ready-no-obvious-reason-for-why-chinese-rice-stockpiles-jumped-400-massive-boosts-in-dry-milk-iron-ore-precious-metals-imports_01092013)

Quite a chilling summary.
-- Pan

Just noticed Jacko posted the same article here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54187-They-Are-Getting-Ready-No-Obvious-Reason-Why-China-Is-Massively-Boosting-Supply-Stockpiles..-&p=614003&viewfull=1#post614003).

panopticon
10th January 2013, 15:23
Thanks Jacko for finding this.

Lifebringer
10th January 2013, 15:24
Why, you say?

After the "crossing" there will be much rebuilding in their country and all those empty cities in the high mountains ready to be populated when the Tsunami's begin as they are built on rock and are energy efficient, using green technology of the sun and wind and battery storage. They will rebuild their rail systems to accommodate the new routes throughout their country that isn't submerged. I think if I was Japanese, i would be very careful of how I treat my future landlords that have higher, dryer lands to live upon. They don't like dissentions and won't bring people in as refugees, who will attempt coups once it happens. Everyone recognizes foods, and goods, and they have green houses for growing beans a fast growing and high yielding staple with proteins and amino acids.

They always plan for the future, as well as live day by day hopefully in relative peaceful society. Quiet enough to think and meditate to the sounds of natural elements and life and are very comfortable in that state. Peaceful minds are very intelligient.

selinam
10th January 2013, 16:29
Thanks for the info Jackovesk. (Nice to see Status Quo again - haven't seen them in years! ;) )

Dennis Leahy
10th January 2013, 17:13
Well done, Jackovesk!

Those that can read that info with a cool head, and can keep fear from brewing, are better prepared (mentally) for what is about to go down. The better prepared we are, the less likely fear will creep in. The worst thing someone could do with info like this is to become frozen with fear. Remain cool and flexible, my friends. My favorite definition of intelligence is adaptability.

Seeing rocky terrain ahead and calmly getting new shock absorbers, extra fuel, and some spare parts (to use an automotive metaphor) is much different than fear of the road or hitting that road unprepared.

Dennis

p.s. Gasoline prices have gone "down, down" in the US. $2.89/gallon today in my town. "I may be a conspiracy nut, but..." ...this has made me very suspicious. Yet another gambit to ensure our complacency? Calm before the storm? I know that when gasoline prices are high, US citizens (in general) are much less likely to complain about US war mongering. Sick and sad, but true.

ghostrider
10th January 2013, 18:41
they have been advertising about Food insurance here for the last two months. all day long food insurance, food insurance. over and over ...my talk radio station kills you with it ...

smithersjones
11th January 2013, 18:43
Well done, Jackovesk!
Yes very well done Jacko'.


Those that can read that info with a cool head, and can keep fear from brewing, are better prepared (mentally) for what is about to go down. The better prepared we are, the less likely fear will creep in.
Whilst i can understand what you are saying here Dennis, ive got to say that the summary of Jacko's thread scared the hell out of me.


The worst thing someone could do with info like this is to become frozen with fear. Remain cool and flexible, my friends. My favorite definition of intelligence is adaptability.
Again Dennis i really do agree with you, but im finding it very hard after reading the thread to "remain cool & flexible?"

I, am like most of "us" on this forum, like "eyes wide open, see it all and hear it all" and always dig a bit deeper in what is being reported by MSM etc, however ive really sat up now after reading the thread.
Cheers for the link Jacko'
Time to prepare a bit more eh?
Take Care ALL

Maia Gabrial
11th January 2013, 18:56
Very interesting. Just a thought....All the stuff we Americans buy "Made in China" most likely allowed them to do this stockpiling... imo. Whatever it is that they know, do you think they shared it with their people?

Peace of Mind
11th January 2013, 18:58
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/china-sets-first-half-rare-earth-export-quota-for-2013/story-e6freuz9-1226544823270

Peace

jackovesk
12th January 2013, 01:43
Stockpiling 'Food' + China's 'Empty Cities' built inland and 'Nowhere Near the Coastal Regions'...

Now, you do the 'Math'...:shocked:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDeS_mXMnM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDeS_mXMnM

Flash
12th January 2013, 02:25
Chinese always plan 50 to 100 years ahead, contrarily to Westeners and worst for North Americans. This is in their cultural profile and behavior.

Furthermore, Chinese are collectivist, this means that they do work in group, for the immediate collectivity and consequently behave for the best of their immediate group, meaning they are used to obey to group necessities, contrarily to American who are the most individualistics on the planet (ex: right to bear arms for every single American).

This makes for a strong centrally controlled direction for the Chinese, which gives some advantages. However, the Armerican individualims, if coupled with creativity (which is not obvious, they have kind of lost it in the last fifty years), would make strategies that Chinese could not plan for and therefore give an edge. However, the individualism may hamper collective reaction needs.

Third, Chinese and American are alike in the feminine/masculine spectrum of societies, being both masculine societies following Dr Gertd Hostede researchs on this topic. Masculine societies have a strong tendency to promote and do war, they are warring cultures. Both, Chinese and American.

The Chinese have witheld this aspect of themselves during the last century, but it won't hold forever. This time however, they will most probably remember very well the lesson the British inflicted to them. They won't let the destruction of their country happen.

You know how the Indonesian people call the Chinese in Indonesia: The Jews of Orient. Not only are they very good merchants, they have also tendencies to make wars.

1 billion people + waking up into a war, I think we haven't seen the worst the planet has to offer. Hopefully, their ETs adviser are faction who care for the human race.

So, from what I see in the above posts, yes, they are preparing for something.

yuhui
12th January 2013, 05:21
the prices have being going up for a very long time in china, with everything becomes more expensive, naturally people would stock things: gold..food and raw materials.
I think Chinese people are very practical since the idea of " prepare for a rainy day " (未雨绸缪) is widely accepted.

As China's 'Empty Cities' built inland and 'Nowhere Near the Coastal Regions'...
The ghost cities are the results of failed investments in real estate (which price is also going up high~~).
Coastal Regions are dense and rich areas compared to inland. Even if someone is rich enough to build a city there, it won't be left empty.

SnowyOwl
12th January 2013, 07:10
The GovernMental of Surroundinggs are getting ready for OBVIOUS REASONS, Saying otherwise is pure delirium

TargeT
12th January 2013, 21:31
the prices have being going up for a very long time in china, with everything becomes more expensive, naturally people would stock things: gold..food and raw materials.
I think Chinese people are very practical since the idea of " prepare for a rainy day " (未雨绸缪) is widely accepted.

As China's 'Empty Cities' built inland and 'Nowhere Near the Coastal Regions'...
The ghost cities are the results of failed investments in real estate (which price is also going up high~~).
Coastal Regions are dense and rich areas compared to inland. Even if someone is rich enough to build a city there, it won't be left empty.

This and trepidation about economic stability( all currencies are suffering, might as well collect assets while its still possible eh?) are very likely the true motivations; not ww3 or niribu or some "known" event in the near future.

sigma6
12th January 2013, 22:26
Why buy gold when, as Federal Reserve Chairmen Ben Bernanke suggests, it is not real money?
Had to laugh at that one... that came out of Bernanke's mouth? nuff said

All of this can be explained as reactionism to what is going on with the the US... and the Fed Reserve,
If anyone is following what Fulford has laid out... none of this should be surprising...
Clif High has predicted same,
And if you follow any financial news letters of any value it's the same....
The only thing left is pegging a date...
America is going to change it's political self to more closely reflect the reality of
how it actually operates. In a twisted sense this is going to be a top down school lesson.
(remember US govt (parasites in congress) isn't the real power
(hard knocks coming)

All property is held by the State... that process was formalized in 1933, and maybe before
but the paper process to exactly represent that reality was perfected in 1933...
For example, I have been discussing how all property deeds are signed by the lawyers, as representatives of the state and the NAME looks to be the actual BC NAME, and the people who purchased are clearly labelled as tenants, and what they signed is an obligation to pay taxes as beneficial owners...

In fact the OWNER is the NAME, the title which is held by the State, therefore everything
that is registered home, cars, boats, accounts, is registered in the NAME... therefore a
title search would show the State holds title to EVERYTHING...

That is the reality... and people can awaken to this reality and educate themselves how
to use that ... or pretend they are owner... when you sign something and pretend you
are the owner to something you do not own... You are violating an oath... what the
signature signifies... and you are also setting yourself up to be interpreted as
Trustee de son tort: (beside handing over jurisdiction via your identification with NAME,
putting everything you are under same title... that includes your body.

Trustee de son tort:
Person who is not a party to a trust agreement (and has no authority as a trustee)
but meddles with the trust property or takes upon himself or herself to carry out
acts characteristic of the office of trustee. Instead of prosecuting this person,
the courts may hold him or her to be a constructive trustee and, thereby,
impose the liabilities of an actual trustee in accounting for his or her acts.

Sound familiar...


The idea that they are planning a war is plain retarded imo... (US egocentrism and denial)
Planning to protect themselves from a war maybe, but planning to be the
instigators of one, that doesn't bear out on any hard numbers??
If someone is proposing such, it will always end up being a US MSM controlled
channel consisting of the usual reality bashing mind control propaganda
Look to the US and it's handlers for that... plain and simple...

Only a fool would sit by with their thumb up their butt, and do nothing...

from your other link:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54022-Former-British-Foreign-Secretary-Died-on-a-hiking-trip-not-long-after-saying-This-...&p=611651&viewfull=1#post611651
"The truth is there is no Islamic army of terrorist group called Al Qaeda. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the devil only in order to drive TV watchers to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the [Bush-Nazi-Obama front] US..." - Robin Cook British Foreign Secretary - Inter-Services Intelligence

TigaHawk
13th January 2013, 00:27
What side will Australia take should China decide to go to war?

With all their investments on Australian soil, especially farmland, i'm left thinking one of the first things China would do is ensure they have a constant supply of food.... That would mean securing their investments over here....

What about the quiet pushes from Government to make Australians all learn Mandarin during school? They were trying to teach me chinese when i was in primary school, back in the 1990's, tho i definately did not take to that, i was very against it and did not learn a thing (stubborn little bratt i was lol) Sometimes i wish i did learn it, as i visit my parents place and take my little sister up the local shops for her birthday, alot of the stores there are now chinese specialty stores, none of the signs are in english!! And i love imported noodles... the ones that you definately cannot read the label on.... the cashier's of those stores generaly dont understand english either, so asking them which is the beef flavored ones doesnt help... :(

What about Rudd being kicked out of power by ... so hard not to just refer to her as The B.... Gillard... Rudd had very strong relations with China as well. He knows something we dont? Even tho Australia is openly the lapdog of the US, one cant help to notice how we've been rubbing up against china's leg like a cat wanting attention lately.....

sigma6
13th January 2013, 02:10
Why would a nation that is gathering all the cards, growing their economy, growing their control of physical resources, building up their power grid and public infrastructure, increasing the standard of living of their citizens, creating more and more contractual commercial relationships with other countries (bypassing the US dollar "tax")

....why on earth would they want to go to war??? ...when they are achieving it all by smart negotiating, smarter investing, and simple efficient utilization of their own resources and a lot of blood sweat and tears labour I will admit...

Come on people... wake up... only those desperate and NOT getting what they want... but coveting it none the less are motivated to commit such an egregious breach, now who would fit that description ??? (ding ding ding!)

sigma6
13th January 2013, 02:19
What about the quiet pushes from Government to make Australians all learn Mandarin during school? They were trying to teach me chinese when i was in primary school, back in the 1990's,
uhhh... might that have been for your own benefit...?


Rudd had very strong relations with China as well. He knows something we dont? Even tho Australia is openly the lapdog of the US, one cant help to notice how we've been rubbing up against china's leg like a cat wanting attention lately.....
hmm... well said actually Australia is in a great position, Rudd knows the economic future of the next 50 years... and it is going to be China's turn just like it was Japans before that, the US's before that, and Englands before that... Ever get the feeling there is someone manipulating the WORLD economy... so now they are going to give China a shot and see how they handle responsibility and economic power. And maybe it's a combination of pragmatism and common sense. They can't really stop the unlimited labour base of China, and they can't knock their non militaristic approach to accumulating their wealth and power... If you are a global investor where would you want to invest your billions? In US treasury bills???

sigma6
13th January 2013, 02:28
The Chinese have witheld this aspect of themselves during the last century, but it won't hold forever. This time however, they will most probably remember very well the lesson the British inflicted to them. They won't let the destruction of their country happen.

You know how the Indonesian people call the Chinese in Indonesia: The Jews of Orient. Not only are they very good merchants, they have also tendencies to make wars.

1 billion people + waking up into a war, I think we haven't seen the worst the planet has to offer. Hopefully, their ETs adviser are faction who care for the human race.
nice slants (no pun intended...) let me get this straight because of their non war like tendency (other then building up their defence capabability as a direct result of US intrusion into their land and water territory) your saying that is indication that they are going to plan a war...???

and because they are known as the "jews of the orient" which I never heard of but on face value we are supposed to interpret they are making reference to their warlike tendencies? Zionists are the evil perpetrators, if you want to interpret "jews" from a stereotypical point of view it would be the idea of their business acumen, education smarts, frugality, closed networks, etc... but I don't ever recall someone referring to 'jews' stereotypically to refer to their war like tendencies, at its worst maybe intimating scheming, but that is still NOT war like tendency... just another unbelievable stretch...

sigma6
13th January 2013, 04:51
Stockpiling 'Food' + China's 'Empty Cities' built inland and 'Nowhere Near the Coastal Regions'...

Now, you do the 'Math'...:shocked:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDeS_mXMnM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDeS_mXMnM

China could absorb all those resource(s) in 5 to 10 years like it was nothing...

pyrangello
17th January 2013, 13:30
I'd say the directive arrow many are pointing to is just what this thread is heading for, preparations for higher prices . The US cannot continue to borrow into oblivion without any opposite reactions. If I was from china and lived there looking from the outside in at the US and I had the resources ie;money, I'd be doing exactly as they are.

We have a train here in the US that is printing money as it is headed around the mountain , gathering speed, having ink drop shipped via air so it doesn't have to stop for a minute as it keeps going faster. Only thing is that the people running the train don't have any idea that the tracks end on the opposite side of the mountain and it's going to be a hell of a free fall when we leave the tracks.

Maia Gabrial
22nd January 2013, 14:08
I haven't read all the posts, but I wanted to say that it could be that the Chinese are trying to buy as much as they can because the American dollar is getting ready to crash. And since they own most of the US corporation's debt, they don't want to be on the losing end of the crash....

sigma6
26th January 2013, 15:12
Chinese always plan 50 to 100 years ahead, contrarily to Westeners and worst for North Americans. This is in their cultural profile and behavior.

Ok want something that will really fry your noodle, guess what, so does the US... They are obviously using different strategies, there are good guys and bad guys, but if you follow the US History there is no questioning they have been planning out hundreds of years since day one. Try and think of the implications of that...