Word of Advice on Astral Travelling

[Tenzin]

Hi all,

There seems to be a lack of awareness that there are very real dangers if one is not previously warned. Just as anywhere we go in our physical world, if you do not watch where you are stepping, you can hurt yourself.

Some people are saying that we are all powerful and we will not be harmed if we do not allow others to. I think this is stretching the truth a bit.

There are real cases of people getting really injured if they fool around in the astral realms. A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

What happens to your higher vibratory body can directly affect your physical body.

This is no reason to fear the experience at all, but to take precaution by educating yourself is only wise, especially for those fresh out of the physical oven.

Anyway, we really should not be wasting our time in the astral realms, because all formations, just like this physical realm, is still illusory and within the confines of the matrix.

What we should really strive for is to continue to raise our vibration. Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

May all be free asap. :)

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

Well, I know a lot of people who experiment with astral traveling regularly, in fact, there´s even an organized association (http://www.iipc.org.br/) here where I live, dedicated to teach astral traveling.

So far, I haven´t met anyone who was harmed during such experiences.

Yes, you can see some pretty bad stuff around the astral, but at least in my case, whenever I felt threatened, adrenaline kicked in and brought me back to this reality in a fraction of a second.

I´ve never heard about anyone who got trapped or was harmed during out of body experiences.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Tenzin]

Hey Raf,

Most people are peace loving and will respect other's privacy, basically nice folks. Some are very daring and will want to break rules. As long as we are acting out of good intention, we will not be harmed in unless we purposefully look for risky adventures or refuse to get away when danger seems imminent.

Cheers!

[Lifebringer]

Maybe the monk didn't want to leave. The "bliss" feeling there must be very temptuous to remain. I imagine the soul free and seeing the all, and not wanting to leave. But if that soul, isn't ready, hasn't completed his mission, then he must because of contract to come. I think this was a boost/promise he was allowed to see when completion is finished, and now he has motivation to complete, even if it meant a sharp "jaw" of the senses to get out until ready. It's God's/Creator's time NOT manKinds.
The sooner WE recognize it's HIS divine plan of the millenia at HIS own pace, the better we will be. WE all have to follow rules and it's why we are here, there are Universal Laws, that if one soul breaks, he must be sent back. No sense in traveling this far, to be set back.

[Hervé]

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Yes, you can see some pretty bad stuff around the astral, but at least in my case, whenever I felt threatened, adrenaline kicked in and brought me back to this reality in a fraction of a second.

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Raf.

Isn't it interesting that one in the "astral realm" would seek refuge in a biological body, which is even more fragile, rather than stepping up in vibrations and escape toward the other end of the frequency spectrum...

Another one of these ingrained programmings, I guess.

[Hervé]

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A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

[...]

Why would "a heavenly domain" have body guards?

[Tenzin]

[...]

A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

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Why would "a heavenly domain" have body guards?

Beings residing in the astral realms are not all powerful. Their powers are limited. Since they are closest to the lower vibratory spectrum of existence, they get a lot of skirmishes from trouble makers.

[ghostrider]

just be mindful, the last place the ptb want us snooping around is in the astral world , they have their minions everywhere...psyops is their main game...

[ROMANWKT]

Hi all,

There seems to be a lack of awareness that there are very real dangers if one is not previously warned. Just as anywhere we go in our physical world, if you do not watch where you are stepping, you can hurt yourself.

Some people are saying that we are all powerful and we will not be harmed if we do not allow others to. I think this is stretching the truth a bit.

There are real cases of people getting really injured if they fool around in the astral realms. A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

What happens to your higher vibratory body can directly affect your physical body.

This is no reason to fear the experience at all, but to take precaution by educating yourself is only wise, especially for those fresh out of the physical oven.

Anyway, we really should not be wasting our time in the astral realms, because all formations, just like this physical realm, is still illusory and within the confines of the matrix.

What we should really strive for is to continue to raise our vibration. Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

May all be free asap. :)

Bless you Tenzin and thank you for your honesty, about the astral.

warmest regards

roman

[Prodigal Son]

Maybe somebody is confusing astral projection with sleepwalking. It's like Ed Norton when he was in search of Lulu, took Ralph on a tour of the Kosciusko Street sewer... you can get hurt in places like that. :rockon:

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

my cousin said not all entities were friendly on her astral travels but i think she was in some entity's debt and could not tell me more.

communicating with archetypes like Morrigan and Wotan can be mind jarring experiences btw.

[realitycorrodes]

The only thing I know is I know nothing!

It is all a virtual reality - even the astral plane - nothing is real in the sense that that which will be everlasting will ever be harmed...

Besides most things that happen to the "little I" are mostly created by the "little I"'s belief system.

Depending on how intense the programming of such beliefs are.

For example, being a monk in a Tibetan Induction Script program could lead to some pretty strong beliefs (based on that system of beliefs) that one may be harmed - if they were to trespass into someone else's exclusive virtual reality?

The question is who created those virtual realities and why?

The trick is to observe carefully and question everything?

How is what I am observing happening?

What is the real cause behind this virtual reality?

Because one has become so attached to the "little I" - the ego - which is a fear of the unknown beyond the limits of the individual - one tends to start their perception of "what is" from the assumption of the "little I" - which in itself will create the "10,000" things from within that virtual reality.

If one is very courageous and is prepared to assume that they are not very special - not something the ego likes - and even that they may not even exist - ego definitely does not like this - then one may start to get glimpses of a horrible truth about what they are.

Some examples of such glimpses are that everything is being created in relation to the "little I's" ideas - of what is real... by something vaster and extremely frightening to the "little I" - but intricately related to it.

Even the above is just a belief - don't take it too seriously.

I have gone consciously looking for "apparent evil" from within the astral - "apparent evil" being really my own unknown fear - and found myself completely paralyzed not only in the astral body but in my own astral mind - the "little I" literally got annihilated all the way through - from the idea of it's own body... to the concept of it's own mind - the most terrifying experience the "little I" has ever had in this particular virtual reality - for me - and yet I remained as calm as one can be when one's whole being is being destroyed.

Needless to say, I thought I had died until I awoke unharmed in my bed.

A dream within a dream.

How deep does the virtual reality program go?

But who knows... if one believes in the mind control program named karma - and I do not - at least not in the way it is sold to us by money hungry priests - then one may also believe... that what harms in the astral can some how seep through to the physical.

If one believes in such stuff, then I respect it as true for that person for they are intricately involved in what is happening to them IMHO.

Wishing you all profound peace and absolute freedom now and always - provided it creates the most amount of harmony with all that is!

[Tenzin]

The only thing I know is I know nothing!

It is all a virtual reality...

Hi Brother. It is real alright, more real than it is when in physical reality. Yes, some mistake dreamscape to actual OBE. The mind has to be really 'strong' to snap out of this 'sleepfulness'. The normal mind and undeveloped brain is just not functioning properly to allow that amplified awareness. One needs to have mastery over the mind.

True, peace cannot be achieved in that state, for peace is beyond experience. But an experience you will nonetheless have along the path to enlightenment, a trivial one for those who have been there and beyond.

[realitycorrodes]

"True, peace cannot be achieved in that state, for peace is beyond experience. But an experience you will nonetheless have along the path to enlightenment, a trivial one for those who have been there and beyond."

Every thing you said above brings me joy, but particularly what you have written which I have copied in purple.

Before enlightenment sweep road, shovel ****...after enlightenment sweep road, shovel ****! lol

[realitycorrodes]

Morpheus: If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain

Morpheus: What are you waiting for? You're faster than this. Don't think you are, know you are. Come on. Stop trying to hit me and hit me.

lol

[Tenzin]

Morpheus: If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain

Morpheus: What are you waiting for? You're faster than this. Don't think you are, know you are. Come on. Stop trying to hit me and hit me.

lol

Ego: Morpheus, we need time. For time exists for us, so does this body, this state of being. At least for now, and while in the now, we still have loads of work, to unload.

heh...

[realitycorrodes]

Speak for yourself friend.

For me there is nothing to do.

Hope you finish unloading soon!

Wishing you peace beyond this experience! lol

[sirdipswitch]

If one goes into the Astral in fear, believing they can be harmed, they can be. If one goes into the Astral, without fear, knowing they are an Immortal Spirit that cannot be harmed, then NOTHING, can harm them. You my friends are Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order, and NOTHING can harm you. All religions and eastern philosophies, have been designed over thousands of years, by TPTB, to keep us from learning this, and returning to the True Spirit Beings that we really are. When we step out of our body, into the Astral, We are instantly back to our True Immortal Spirit Self.

[RMorgan]

If one goes into the Astral in fear, believing they can be harmed, they can be. If one goes into the Astral, without fear, knowing they are an Immortal Spirit that cannot be harmed, then NOTHING, can harm them. You my friends are Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order, and NOTHING can harm you. All religions and eastern philosophies, have been designed over thousands of years, by TPTB, to keep us from learning this, and returning to the True Spirit Beings that we really are. When we step out of our body, into the Astral, We are instantly back to our True Immortal Spirit Self.

You´re right, besides, I can´t even imagine how someone would manage to even pass through the first OBE´s vibrations stage feeling fear...

Raf.

[Tenzin]

The belief is deeply ingrained in the psyche for most people. The initial conditioning takes time to overcome.

The warning should be given to complete beginners, to take their first steps carefully. If we tell a normal person they are going to be ok if they simply jump of a building, I think he is going to spend another timeline getting to the top of the building again. Even in the movie Matrix, Neo failed the first few times he leaped off the building.

I don't think many people are that advanced to be able to reprogram the conditioning that quickly. Of course, there are exceptional few, well deserving the reverence for their mastery over the mind.

It is only prudent to be patient with beginners and not fill them with the idea that they can fly immediately before they learn to walk properly.

Thus I humbly state.

[Tenzin]

If one goes into the Astral in fear, believing they can be harmed, they can be. If one goes into the Astral, without fear, knowing they are an Immortal Spirit that cannot be harmed, then NOTHING, can harm them. You my friends are Immortal Spirit Beings Of The Highest Order, and NOTHING can harm you. All religions and eastern philosophies, have been designed over thousands of years, by TPTB, to keep us from learning this, and returning to the True Spirit Beings that we really are. When we step out of our body, into the Astral, We are instantly back to our True Immortal Spirit Self.

You´re right, besides, I can´t even imagine how someone would manage to even pass through the first OBE´s vibrations stage feeling fear...

Raf.

Hi Raf,

Thanks for pointing out. My first message goes out to those who are already astral travelling, not those who are trying to get there. The 'energy mould' in place indeed is a tough shell to crack. :)

[DeDukshyn]

Hi all,

There seems to be a lack of awareness that there are very real dangers if one is not previously warned. Just as anywhere we go in our physical world, if you do not watch where you are stepping, you can hurt yourself.

Some people are saying that we are all powerful and we will not be harmed if we do not allow others to. I think this is stretching the truth a bit.

There are real cases of people getting really injured if they fool around in the astral realms. A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

What happens to your higher vibratory body can directly affect your physical body.

This is no reason to fear the experience at all, but to take precaution by educating yourself is only wise, especially for those fresh out of the physical oven.

Anyway, we really should not be wasting our time in the astral realms, because all formations, just like this physical realm, is still illusory and within the confines of the matrix.

What we should really strive for is to continue to raise our vibration. Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

May all be free asap. :)



Hey guys!

This discussion is going in circles -- let's move it forward.

Tenzin, Please describe and explain the dangers associated with astral travel as you know them, how you came to this information, or any personal experiences you can talk about where you were actually hurt.

Basically what I want to parse out is:

1) Is this your personal experience? If so explain how it happened and how you got hurt.
2) Did you pick this up in reading somewhere? If so can you please explain or link a source?
3) Perhaps there is a logic chain that you can use to explain how people get hurt in the astral realm by other beings or otherwise?

Someone starting a thread saying -- "Don't go there! It's dangerous!" Needs a little more evidence to follow up with than is provided anywhere here on this thread. Amzer's comment, while full of sarcasm, make the most sense to me thus far, so I'd simply like some more information on the topic before I can consider the OP seriously.

That said, I have heard (but not experienced), that powerful electromagnetic fields, and high voltage electricity can make you "stuck", but I know nor heard of anyone actually being "harmed" by them. Any evidence, or even trustworthy anecdotes, would be highly appreciated ;)

To add one more thing -- in even my waking life I have noticed a direct connection about my "danger level" and my state of mind in detail, far moreso than any environment factor.

Thanks!

[Tenzin]

Hi DeDukshyn,

I am not hurt during AT (but in physical consciousness but that's another unrelated issue), because I have been sufficiently warned against being too adventurous and provided with instructions for protection, usually for those freshies (just started ATing) or on orientation (on verge of ATing). Almost all advanced spiritual teachers will want to avoid the topic because it is not in their interest to advocate AT. They will only open up to those who are already ATing and are sincere in their search for enlightenment, not those who are curious and filled with attachments; the very reason for getting stuck in the matrix. If one is full of greed and other defilements, there is no stopping what harm he is going to do to himself and others, usually ending up getting more trapped in the matrix. It is really tiring to convince those who are skeptical and there are a lot of ATers who will appreciate the advice, and they deserve all the time the teachers have. But since more and more people are exploring and in fact experiencing it, it warrants an alert and thus I am sharing it here.

The best evidence is to refer all interested parties to the Thai monk injured and all those who had painful manifestations after a brawl in the astral realms. Though I am pretty sure it is going to take more than just a casual request to get them to speak up. I can assure you they do not want the public exposure and my sharing beyond what I already have is potentially dangerous. Even upon sending the first post, there were already visitors in my room. Not apparently malicious ones but probably vindictive for their words contradicted in my post.

I believe anyone teaching AT is acting out of genuine good will. My message is in no way against that. They play an important role to wake the masses up.

I no longer share things I read or derived logically. Without experience, it is just parroting a belief. The ego likes that. I used to be like that. I got tired of that quite recently.

I have not met or heard anyone actually dying, just hurt. Though I will not dismiss it as a possibility even if I have never heard that. I suppose it is extremely rare because we seem to have a built in mechanism to snap us back into the physical body quickly. Like I said, there are some people who are fearless and may get themselves hurt if they do not respect rules.

My intention is primarily to let those who are already ATing, and there will be those who will appreciate that there is no harm to be more prudent in their adventures if they choose to engage the astral realms (especially for those who have not yet sufficiently reprogrammed their mind from pre-conditioned beliefs), more often to help their relatives or friends. Whoever has yet to experience it, will one day know exactly if it is as been said or not. Otherwise, anyone can and should treat this as pure hearsay and it in fact does serve them good because fear does hinder our exit from the physical capsule.

Those who are already advanced in their mind development will find this not familiar, probably because they have already been highly developed before adopting the current physical body.

I can't explain the mechanics of how all this happen... these things just happened as reported.

I'd like to add that there are beings that do not want us to get out of the matrix, and they mess with our head/ego with thoughts not our own. They operate throughout the astral realms and beyond. But when we are ready, and if we ask for help, we will be received. We are never alone.

[Anchor]

Speak for yourself friend.

For me there is nothing to do.

Hope you finish unloading soon!

Wishing you peace beyond this experience! lol

Before enlightenment read Avalon and post comments, after enlightenment read Avalon and post comments.

Your move ;)

[Karezza]

...Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

May all be free asap. :)

What do you mean by this Tenzin (or what is your understanding of this)?

[Joe Akulis]

It think Bulhman is probably promoting the ability to interact in other layers of the consciousness onion by learning how to shift your perceptions, rather than by separating your energy body and going that route. Similar pattern to the Monroe material. He learned about stuff by having spontaneous out of body experiences, but most of the things they work on at his institute now deal more with learning how to get into a good meditative state and learning how to shift your perceptions into different states. They still teach methods of going out of body as well, but that's not the priority. Perhaps Buhlman also came to the same sort of understanding. Just my 2 cents...

[Anchor]

...Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

May all be free asap. :)

What do you mean by this Tenzin (or what is your understanding of this)?

Why travel to a different city for the purposes of attaining and subject oneself to all manner of distraction enroute, when one can simply remain where one is and attain?

Obviously if one has a taste for travel and seeing the sights (either physically or astrally) then do that.

I understand that the point being made is that it is not necessary to do it and still attain.

When travelling astrally or physically - is one walking the inner, individual, path to truth?

[DeDukshyn]

Hi DeDukshyn,

I am not hurt during AT (but in physical consciousness but that's another unrelated issue), because I have been sufficiently warned against being too adventurous and provided with instructions for protection, usually for those freshies (just started ATing) or on orientation (on verge of ATing). Almost all advanced spiritual teachers will want to avoid the topic because it is not in their interest to advocate AT. They will only open up to those who are already ATing and are sincere in their search for enlightenment, not those who are curious and filled with attachments; the very reason for getting stuck in the matrix. If one is full of greed and other defilements, there is no stopping what harm he is going to do to himself and others, usually ending up getting more trapped in the matrix. It is really tiring to convince those who are skeptical and there are a lot of ATers who will appreciate the advice, and they deserve all the time the teachers have. But since more and more people are exploring and in fact experiencing it, it warrants an alert and thus I am sharing it here.

The best evidence is to refer all interested parties to the Thai monk injured and all those who had painful manifestations after a brawl in the astral realms. Though I am pretty sure it is going to take more than just a casual request to get them to speak up. I can assure you they do not want the public exposure and my sharing beyond what I already have is potentially dangerous. Even upon sending the first post, there were already visitors in my room. Not apparently malicious ones but probably vindictive for their words contradicted in my post.

I believe anyone teaching AT is acting out of genuine good will. My message is in no way against that. They play an important role to wake the masses up.

I no longer share things I read or derived logically. Without experience, it is just parroting a belief. The ego likes that. I used to be like that. I got tired of that quite recently.

I have not met or heard anyone actually dying, just hurt. Though I will not dismiss it as a possibility even if I have never heard that. I suppose it is extremely rare because we seem to have a built in mechanism to snap us back into the physical body quickly. Like I said, there are some people who are fearless and may get themselves hurt if they do not respect rules.

My intention is primarily to let those who are already ATing, and there will be those who will appreciate that there is no harm to be more prudent in their adventures if they choose to engage the astral realms (especially for those who have not yet sufficiently reprogrammed their mind from pre-conditioned beliefs), more often to help their relatives or friends. Whoever has yet to experience it, will one day know exactly if it is as been said or not. Otherwise, anyone can and should treat this as pure hearsay and it in fact does serve them good because fear does hinder our exit from the physical capsule.

Those who are already advanced in their mind development will find this not familiar, probably because they have already been highly developed before adopting the current physical body.

I can't explain the mechanics of how all this happen... these things just happened as reported.

I'd like to add that there are beings that do not want us to get out of the matrix, and they mess with our head/ego with thoughts not our own. They operate throughout the astral realms and beyond. But when we are ready, and if we ask for help, we will be received. We are never alone.

Thanks for the thorough response Tenzin. Do you have any idea what an "astral brawl" would be like? What types of effects would the "harm" be? For example would your body get injured, like how it worked in the Matrix? Or do you think that the harm would be more mental? I am just trying to get a clearer picture.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

one may be harmed - if they were to trespass into someone else's exclusive virtual reality?

Ive had this happen once. It could have been a pretty harmful situation had i have panicked.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Tenzin Hi all,

There seems to be a lack of awareness that there are very real dangers if one is not previously warned. Just as anywhere we go in our physical world, if you do not watch where you are stepping, you can hurt yourself.

I agree, you can if you are met with a walker or happen to interrupt a remote viewer. Id they decide to merge with you they can be mentally inside your head. Its a very strange experience. Where the harm comes in is if you pannick at that point and do not know how to push out the extra body or mind you can really harm your own belief system.


Some people are saying that we are all powerful and we will not be harmed if we do not allow others to. I think this is stretching the truth a bit.

There is nothing to stop a superior being harming you if it so wishes, especially if you place judgement upon it. then you may be in for some un wanted fun.


There are real cases of people getting really injured if they fool around in the astral realms. A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

never happened to me but id immagine it could.


What happens to your higher vibratory body can directly affect your physical body.

As above so below ?


This is no reason to fear the experience at all, but to take precaution by educating yourself is only wise, especially for those fresh out of the physical oven.

Basic rules i followed out there are No judgement , No Fear , Walk a middle path ie do not take sides unless you want to interact with that being.



What we should really strive for is to continue to raise our vibration. Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

Interesting , does he describe a method to doing this ?

Cheers

Naniu

[DeDukshyn]

Tenzin Hi all,

There seems to be a lack of awareness that there are very real dangers if one is not previously warned. Just as anywhere we go in our physical world, if you do not watch where you are stepping, you can hurt yourself.

I agree, you can if you are met with a walker or happen to interrupt a remote viewer. Id they decide to merge with you they can be mentally inside your head. Its a very strange experience. Where the harm comes in is if you pannick at that point and do not know how to push out the extra body or mind you can really harm your own belief system.


Some people are saying that we are all powerful and we will not be harmed if we do not allow others to. I think this is stretching the truth a bit.

There is nothing to stop a superior being harming you if it so wishes, especially if you place judgement upon it. then you may be in for some un wanted fun.


There are real cases of people getting really injured if they fool around in the astral realms. A monk had his jaw dislocated because he trespassed a heavenly domain, whacked up real good by a guard.

never happened to me but id immagine it could.


What happens to your higher vibratory body can directly affect your physical body.

As above so below ?


This is no reason to fear the experience at all, but to take precaution by educating yourself is only wise, especially for those fresh out of the physical oven.

Basic rules i followed out there are No judgement , No Fear , Walk a middle path ie do not take sides unless you want to interact with that being.



What we should really strive for is to continue to raise our vibration. Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

Interesting , does he describe a method to doing this ?

Cheers

Naniu

Hi Naniu,

I am still trying to understand some of this, are you saying then that the potential "harm" is merely the same harm that may come with any experience, from a mental point of view? Like for example if one is extremely fearful and has a very traumatic experience in that astral, that the effect would be similar if in real life that person had a traumatic experience the "harm" or damage would be similar? Do you think, or have you experienced and physical "damage" while astral traveling?

Or do you think that it is merely a reflection of fear that determines the experience, just the same as any other time in ones life? And if one has a decent grasp on their fear levels, that the resultant "harm" may be negated.

Please share you thoughts, No one seems interested in directly answering my very simple simple questions, yet everyone concurs this happens. I am very confused by this. Is this perhaps a very "private club" where I have no place in knowing this info?

I am merely trying to understand.

Thanks in advance.

[Tenzin]

Thanks for the thorough response Tenzin. Do you have any idea what an "astral brawl" would be like? What types of effects would the "harm" be? For example would your body get injured, like how it worked in the Matrix? Or do you think that the harm would be more mental? I am just trying to get a clearer picture.

Hi Brother,

Very sorry for the late response. Have not been active online for quite a long time. Taking a short break but going to return to an even more secluded retreat after this, especially since news got out that things are going to be even more bumpy for the next 2 years. It is getting really messed up everywhere.

Getting bruised in the astral realm is very much how we put the Will into hurting the other party. When the energetic structure/body has been compromised too greatly, they manifest into the physical form. The weaker we are or the more powerful the attacker is, physical manifestations appear faster. Thoughts can be put into us as well, and that alone is already a form of 'attack'. Mindfulness is our first line of defense.

Mental or physical? It really depends, but the vast majority of the human species usually take just a thought form from the attacker to put them down, and since thoughts are also energy, it can fester into physical problems. But I am aware that some beings are capable of injecting diseases into the physical directly.

This is very important to know how to protect our mind and preserve our energy if we aspire to get out of the matrix. Because if we hold such intent, and we are growing in strength and awareness, we will be up against the more powerful of beings who want to keep us stuck in here.

The more attachments we have, the more weaknesses we possess, the lesser the attention we get from the big boss himself; a foot soldier from his camp up there will suffice to mess with our mind/ego and tempt us back in.

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What we should really strive for is to continue to raise our vibration. Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

Interesting , does he describe a method to doing this ?

Cheers

Naniu

Hi Brother,

Not aware of that, let me revisit his books and check it out.

Power and Blessings

[Tenzin]

...Even William Bulhman said he no longer uses his astral body and will engage more of inner exploration in higher bodies.

May all be free asap. :)

What do you mean by this Tenzin (or what is your understanding of this)?

Hi Astrolabe,

The astral body is the next higher body we possess. Higher vibratory bodies exist beyond that. Most human beings are not capable of knowing they are already astral travelling in deep meditation or sleep unless they have developed their mind and have a healthy reservoir of energy.

[Gwendy]

Hi, I'm searching for testimony (ies) about astral projection. Ten or so years ago, I experimented this going out of body, a number of times. This phenomenon occured always on the same mode: while driving and particularly tearing down the road. I let you guess how scared I was when returned. Thoughts, accident never happened. The most of the projections were very short and never left a valuable memory. Nevertheless one of them is yet very vivid. The going out had me brought in a very large and bright avenue, in a city I did'nt know, where majestic buildings were standing. The view was so precise that I undertook to search in travel books in order to verify if town was real. And...it was! So, I had a trip in Buenos Aires, by a sunny afternoon. While the excursion my car was wheeling fast in a very dark night on a Paris's crowded highway. Who was the car's pilot?

[TruthSeekah]

Hopefully this will help as well, I know it seems elementary but a lot of people seem to believe this way.
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[kirolak]

My only fear when I first began astral travelling was that I would, in the body, mistakenly think I was in the astral state & try to fly out of a window! I know that all experience, 3-D, astral or mental, is still part of the Illusion, but sometimes it's all right to let one's "little self" out to play, I think.

[Virja]

Hey we'll said specially the part 'not all thoughts are ours' and how true it is as we pick up so many unwanted ,unnecessary ,low vibrational thoughts from are environment and confuse it with our own e energy.It helps to be aware. Thanks .Virja