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ascendingstarseed
11th September 2010, 09:10
Lord Stirling

The latest satellite data establishes that the North Atlantic Current (also called the North Atlantic Drift) no longer exists and along with it the Norway Current. These two warm water currents are actually part of the same system that has several names depending on where in the Atlantic Ocean it is. The entire system is a key part of the planet's heat regulatory system; it is what keeps Ireland and the United Kingdom mostly ice free and the Scandinavia countries from being too cold; it is what keeps the entire world from another Ice Age. This Thermohaline Circulation System is now dead in places and dying in others.

This 'river' of warm water that moves through the Atlantic Ocean is called, in various places, the South Atlantic Current, the North Brazil Current, the Caribbean Current, the Yucatan Current, the Loop Current, the Florida Current, the Gulf Stream, the North Atlantic Current (or North Atlantic Drift) and the Norway Current.

The thermohaline circulation is sometimes called the ocean conveyor belt, the great ocean conveyor, or the global conveyor belt.

It is a university level physics experiment to use a tub of cool water and inject a colored stream of warm water into it. You can see the boundary layers of the warm water stream. If you add oil to the tub it breaks down the boundary layers of the warm water stream and effectively destroys the current vorticity . This is what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Atlantic Ocean.

The entire 'river of warm water' that flows from the Caribbean to the edges of Western Europe is dying due to the Corexit that the Obama Administration allowed BP to use to hide the scale of the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Disaster. The approximately two million gallons of Corexit, plus several million gallons of other dispersants, have caused the over two hundred million gallons of crude oil, that has gushed for months from the BP wellhead and nearby sites, to mostly sink to the bottom of the ocean. This has helped to effectively hide much of the oil, with the hopes that BP can seriously reduce the mandated federal fines from the oil disaster. However, there is no current way to effectively 'clean up' the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, which is about half covered in crude oil. Additionally, the oil has flowed up the East Coast of America and into the North Atlantic Ocean, and there is no way to effectively clean up this 'sea bottom oil'. It is likely, based on numerous reports, that the oil is still flowing in massive amounts from multiple places on the seabed floor. This effectively means, that even if we had the technology in place to somehow clean up the free flowing thick crude oil deep in the ocean, it would likely not be enough to reverse the damage to the Thermohaline Circulation System in the Atlantic Ocean.

Cont'd...
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/destruction/news.php?q=1283706208

Samson
11th September 2010, 14:42
The name below the article 'bill deagle' should ring a bell... fraud! fake false fearmongerer. He s been caught lying a million times previous years, but still he gets some attention, dont be fooled by this ...creature.

Swami
11th September 2010, 15:06
I think this (http://www.rense.com/MexicoAlreadyDead.html) article is the source of all this North Atlantic Current- talk lately...

onawah
11th September 2010, 18:27
The name below the article 'bill deagle' should ring a bell... fraud! fake false fearmongerer. He s been caught lying a million times previous years, but still he gets some attention, dont be fooled by this ...creature.

I agree with your assessment of Deagle, but I think the article at http://www.rense.com/MexicoAlreadyDead.htm (which Swami provided the link for) is the real deal. I've copied the first paragraphs below, but the article is much longer, has graphs, charts, etc. I'm no scientist, but my intuition tells me this is right on.


"Our planet is experiencing a real life version of the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" right now. Record breaking heat (up to 39-40C or 100-104F in Moscow) and drought in Russia, heat and flooding in large parts of Asia (China, Pakistan, etc.), and killing cold temperatures in South America are all reflective of a rapidly changing global weather pattern that is caused by dramatic changes in the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic Current (also called the North Atlantic Drift) and the Norway Current/etc. brought on by the large amounts of oil discharged into the Gulf of Mexico by the BP Oil Disaster.
An Italian theoretical physicist,yowusa.com/34E6E6DF.jpg Dr. Gianluigi Zangari, of the prestigious Research Division of the National Institute of Nuclear Physics at Frascati National Laboratories (LNF) of the National Institute of Nuclear Physics (INFN) in Italy, has come up with some startling scientific findings. Dr. Zangari has specialized in global climate research and analysis. He has found that the massive amount of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, from the BP Oil Disaster, has caused a disruption of the Loop Current in the Gulf. And further, that this has resulted in a dramatic weakening in the vorticity of the Gulf Stream and North Atlantic Current, and a reduction in North Atlantic water temperatures of 10C.
It is a university level physics experiment to use a tub of cool water and inject a colored stream of warm water into it. You can see the boundary layers of the warm water stream. If you add oil to the tub it breaks down the boundary layers of the warm water stream and effectively destroys the current vorticity . This is what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Atlantic Ocean.
The entire 'river of warm water' that flows from the Caribbean to the edges of Western Europe is dying due to the Corexit that the Obama Administration allowed BP to use to hide the scale of the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Disaster. The approximately two million gallons of Corexit, plus several million gallons of other dispersants, have caused the over two hundred million gallons of crude oil, that has gushed for months from the BP wellhead and nearby sites, to mostly sink to the bottom of the ocean. This has helped to effectively hide much of the oil, with the hopes that BP can seriously reduce the mandated federal fines from the oil disaster. However, there is no current way to effectively 'clean up' the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, which is about half covered in crude oil. Additionally, the oil has flowed up the East Coast of America and into the North Atlantic Ocean, and there is no way to effectively clean up this 'sea bottom oil'.
This massive amount of crude oil, covering such an enormous area, has seriously affected the Loop Current, the Gulf Stream, and the North Atlantic Current system, by breaking up the boundary layers of the warm water flow."

Etherios
11th September 2010, 18:33
The name below the article 'bill deagle' should ring a bell... fraud! fake false fearmongerer. He s been caught lying a million times previous years, but still he gets some attention, dont be fooled by this ...creature.

Well do we have any info on this? Just because someone that "might" be a fraud is talking about it - doesnt mean it a lie.

onawah
11th September 2010, 19:16
Well do we have any info on this? Just because someone that "might" be a fraud is talking about it - doesnt mean it a lie.

Did you see my post just above yours? There is plenty of info at that link Swami provided.

HORIZONS
11th September 2010, 19:20
I don't think Deagle is a fraud so much as he is an opportunist. I feel like he takes information that is out there (good, bad, fear - whatever) and uses it for whatever purpose suites him best. This does not make the information wrong, nor does it make it right, but we should intelligently look at what is being said and make up our own mind.

When my dog is vehemently barking at something out the window, I always go and take a look. Most of the time it is nothing - sometimes it is someone like Fed Ex or someone driving up to the house, or maybe a friend is stopping by. Sometimes it is the cows across the highway and he can see them and barks at them no matter how many times I tell him not to. And sometimes there is a varmint in the yard that needs chasing out. But one thing is for sure, there is always the chance that there could be someone or something that is there that I need to be alerted to - so I am thankful he does what he does - and he does it very well - and it is up to me to discern if there is a real and present danger or not.

Thanks for posting this article - as I myself have been concerned about this issue.
:yo:

Etherios
11th September 2010, 19:34
Did you see my post just above yours? There is plenty of info at that link Swami provided.

i was talking to swani ... he looks like he doesnt trust these info cause Deagle is involved so i was asking if we have other info to say something different etc. I read the info ... made my heart skip a bit tbh.

onawah
11th September 2010, 19:58
I agree Deagle is more of an opportunist than anything, but the "medium is the massage" and the WAY in which he delivers information is very objectionable, and has a message of it's own, which is negative, in my opinion.

Not everyone is into channeled messages, but the newest Message from Matthew just came out (I copied it in full in the Channlled Info forum) has some reassurance about climate change, etc.
You can read the whole thing at
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=125&z=2
This is just a small section:

"24. Climate change is of serious concern, so for newcomers to our messages we are happy to say again that this is Earth’s transition to a moderate climate globally. Record-breaking temperatures, increased solar flares, melting glaciers and polar regions, low islands slowly being submerged and strange new juxtapositions of planetary bodies are aspects of Earth’s ascension process and the return to her original health and pristine beauty. In alignment with her goal, our “space” brothers and sisters are using their technology to alleviate the toxic effects of the oil and its dispersants in the Gulf of Mexico as well as the toxins in other waters, chemtrails and weaponry.

25. Illuminati activists are trying to prevent official recognition of other civilizations’ presence in every way, and from the earthquake in Haiti and last winter’s uncommonly heavy snowfall in Washington DC to flooding in Pakistan and Hurricane Earl, their use of technology has achieved their dark purpose. However, those events also were great opportunities for millions of souls to advance toward karmic completion as well as releasing massive amounts of negativity from the planet. More negativity is yet to be released, and wherever your technology initiates “natural disasters,” our universal family will use their technology to reduce the destruction and death toll."

lunaflare
11th September 2010, 20:29
Thanks for the links.
This is an important thread to keep "alive"- The Oil Spill is certainly losing focus in alternative media (and even on this forum to some degree).
I like your dog analogy Horizon and Onwah's typo "medium is in the massage" made me laugh amid reading such dire and disheartening reports
Even the average guy knows that two million gallons of such a poisonous substance (plus other toxic dispersants) will devastate and destroy ocean life.
Impact the Planet's regulatory system...
And when it comes to natural "disasters"- nothing is by chance in the play of problem, reaction, solution as far as I can see.
The "solution" part needs to be re-configured, however. And many minds and hearts can accomplish this indeed. Corexit for sure is not involved!
The Planet as an organism will never "die", however....just us peeps (in various pockets and places) who dwell here.

ascendingstarseed
12th September 2010, 08:50
I was really hoping people would rise their vibrations above Deagle bashing, yikes was just trying to get some feedback going on the loop current. Besides, Lord Stirling's name is on the article, the findings are based on the work of Dr. Gianluizi Zangari and others have chimed in as well...there are also computer graphics showing a breaking up of the current.

Thank you Swami and Onowah...!! That's what I was looking for...

And I agree with you Lunaflare...I'm very disappointed that the media and most everyone else has moved on, when people are getting sick along the coast, they're now finding hydrocarbons in the bloodstream of residents who live 50 miles inland from the Gulf and oil is still coming in as much as ever along the shorelines. Why are they still spraying Corexit at night? Why are they opening up fishing again when most fishermen with integrity know the fish aren't safe to eat? Now we have a broken loop current and nothing, no one picks up what could be one of the biggest stories of the century if it brings on an ice age?

This whole story has barely just begun and should be kept alive as long as repercussions are being felt from the massive amounts toxins released into the eco-system. Nature would've taken care of the oil on it's own, but now it's going to be one huge, ongoing experiment because they don't know how all of these highly toxic chemicals will effect the overall environment.

ascendingstarseed
12th September 2010, 10:06
One more thing in regards to Deagle, aren't we are all here as truthseekers...when our eyes are clouded by misplaced judgement of other's we often overlook obvious truth's

onawah
12th September 2010, 16:59
Actually it wasn't a typo, Marshall Mcluhan's famous book published in 1967 (see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Medium_is_the_Massage )
is all about how we are influenced by the manner in which information is delivered as much as by the information itself. So while you may THINK that hearing the SAME information from someone like Deagle as compared to say, Mahatma Ghandi ( a far fetched example, but you'll get my point) isn't going to influence your assessment of that information or how it's recorded in your brain, you will have missed a very important piece of the puzzle re how we are conditioned and programmed.

In any case, the show's not over 'til the fat lady sings, as the saying goes, and this show isn't anywhere near over yet.

Here are some heartening words from the latest Message from Matthew (another source of info I much prefer over sensationalists like Deagle) on the subject, from
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=125&z=2

You may not resonate to channeled information, but there is a lot of wisdom and truth in these messages, I feel, and the "massage" feels grounded and clean to me.

(my emphasis in bold letters)
2. There have been attempts to stifle the truth since the dawn of communication on Gaia-Terra-Shan-Earth, and the attempts were successful when darkly-inclined ones controlled the dissemination of information. In modern times, they expected to broaden their web of control with the Internet, but instead, it became their undoing. Now factual evidence that until recently was mainly restricted to that source is reaching the public through the perseverance of courageous investigative journalists, other reporters, eyewitnesses and individuals disclosing personal experiences. Not only is there increasing exposure of lies and corruption, but also innovative ways people are adapting to the economic situation are being publicized. The tearing down of mind control via the media has come about because of the ever-intensifying light. "

"7. Conversely, greed, ruthlessness, oppression, corruption, brutality, deception, betrayal of trust, unjustness, lack of forgiveness and lust for power emanate very low vibrations. Negative emotions that emit low vibrations include fear, guilt, remorse, self-doubt, jealousy, envy, bitterness and resentment, all of which create discomfort, discord and dissatisfaction. By far the most powerful of negative feelings is fear, a highly magnified energy attachment, and that is why time and again we have urged you never to fear anything. Not only do fearful individuals attract more circumstances to feel fearful about, but the energy of fear is the dark ones’ greatest tool — it feeds their ambitions and strengthens their domination over you. When you live steadfast in the light, there is nothing to fear! Nothing of dark nature can survive within the light! "

"10. The point has been reached in Earth’s transition from third to fourth density where spiritual preparedness is of much greater importance than preoccupation with current happenings. By no means are we suggesting that you be uninformed or disinterested in national and international developments, but rather that you not be drawn into third density’s drama that is playing itself out. We know it is challenging to keep two feet on the ground and allow your mind and heart soar to the heavens, but staying steadfast in the light will keep you in balance. As the ascension pace keeps accelerating, the rest of the “iceberg of truths” will be rising into public awareness, and staying balanced will give you the strength and ability to fare well when others reel in shock, anger and disillusionment as events unfold. "

"18. A few words about an issue that is closely related: Every bit of energy given to forecasts of catastrophic damage adds to the possibility that it may occur. Energy is neutral and without reasoning capacity — it is your thoughts and feelings that attach themselves to energy streamers that give them direction and forcefulness. As the collective consciousness starts churning with fearful thoughts and feelings about such forecasts, the possibility of occurrence becomes a probability. Even though our universal family stands at the ready to intervene in situations where they are authorized to do so — reducing the harmful effects desired by your weather manipulators always is allowed — please be ever mindful that the impartial law of attraction is constantly operating and is powerful. "

"19. This applies equally on a personal basis. Some individuals regard guidance to “live in the ‘now’” to conflict with instructions for manifesting what they want in their lives. We say to those who think they cannot handle responsibilities of the moment and simultaneously create future developments: You have been doing this lifelong! The law of attraction is set in motion by your “now” thoughts and feelings. When you have positive, or optimistic, thoughts and acknowledge with gratitude your “now” blessings, that is what gets attached to energy streamers that shoot out to the mass consciousness, attract similar energy attachments and bring back to you more to feel thankful for. In like manner, when thoughts and feelings are focused on stressful situations and ordeals, you manifest new hardships and worries to deal with. "

"24. Climate change is of serious concern, so for newcomers to our messages we are happy to say again that this is Earth’s transition to a moderate climate globally. Record-breaking temperatures, increased solar flares, melting glaciers and polar regions, low islands slowly being submerged and strange new juxtapositions of planetary bodies are aspects of Earth’s ascension process and the return to her original health and pristine beauty. In alignment with her goal, our “space” brothers and sisters are using their technology to alleviate the toxic effects of the oil and its dispersants in the Gulf of Mexico as well as the toxins in other waters, chemtrails and weaponry. "

"25. Illuminati activists are trying to prevent official recognition of other civilizations’ presence in every way, and from the earthquake in Haiti and last winter’s uncommonly heavy snowfall in Washington DC to flooding in Pakistan and Hurricane Earl, their use of technology has achieved their dark purpose. However, those events also were great opportunities for millions of souls to advance toward karmic completion as well as releasing massive amounts of negativity from the planet. More negativity is yet to be released, and wherever your technology initiates “natural disasters,” our universal family will use their technology to reduce the destruction and death toll."