Police to my door, regarding ORMUS

[Trail]

Remember my ORMUS experiment? http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43607-Ormus&p=494359&viewfull=1#post494359

We'll i've just got visited by the police. A baldheaded big male and a female officer.

They asked to come in and proceeded to tell me they had noticed that i've ordered some unusual chemicals and asked me to explain to them why i've bought them.

I did some quick thinking and figured what the heck, i might as well tell them about the ORMUS.

Well after hearing my story and seeing the chemicals, sea salt, and the resulting ormus, they said they thought everything was ok and thanked me and proceeded on their way out.

Halfway on the way out the baldy said (roughly translated from dutch to convey his meaning): "Oh btw thanks for creating my youtube debute, you really had a good shot of me there."

(the words are usually spoken out of sarcasm but he didn't sound mad/annoyed at all so im unsure about his intentions)

And they where gone.

Now remember the street fight a few months ago across the street wich i posted here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49493-Is-the-light-losing-the-fight-against-dumbed-down-mind-control

The baldy was one of the policeofficers who was showing much aggression, and we where shocked and we commented such in the youtube video wich i had posted online. (and have removed about 6 weeks ago)

HMMMM.. ?!??!

~Trail.

[onawah]

My question is, why and how were the police monitoring your chemical purchases?
I would sure be wary of "Baldy".

[Flash]

Keep posting everywhere to protect yourself. You have just been told you were under check and surveillance. That was, in my opinion, a warning to keep quiet. First the video, then the follow up of you orders for ormus, then the visit. It is quite clear. The only protection is public imo.

[Freed Fox]

My question is, why and how were the police monitoring your chemical purchases?
I would sure be wary of "Baldy".

I honestly don't know what to make of the OP (but thanks for bringing ORMUS to my attention, must have missed all that).

Regarding your question, onawah, it is my understanding that online purchases are often monitored (in the U.S., at least), by national security so as to preemptively track terrorists. That's the excuse they use anyway. I don't know if the same is done in Trail's country, but I wouldn't doubt it.

[Maia Gabrial]

They asked to come in and proceeded to tell me they had noticed that i've ordered some unusual chemicals and asked me to explain to them why i've bought them.

Are you guys supposed to let the cops in? That's a big mistake. You actually gave up your rights doing that. Here in America, most Americans don't know that and wonder why they're in so much trouble AFTER they let the cops in....

Glad it worked out for you. The bald guy sounds like he's so proud of himself.

[Flash]

laws are different in every country Maia. Canada, NZ, Australia, British colonies and UK, as well as some laws in the USA, come from the British empire criminal laws. I doubt very much NL have British laws, being a country that is surely as old as Britain and having had its own laws for centuries. Even in the province of Quebec, in Canada, we follow Napoleon code, not British law, for civil suits (non criminal lawsuit).


We could put our international members at risk by telling them what to do based on American laws.

Example: gun laws, in most countries in the world private gun ownership is forbidden.

So, I would ask if in their laws they have to let the cops in first?

[ghostrider]

I would meet them at their police headquarters , where there are cameras and witnesses. No goings on in my home. It's my home. Not theirs...anywhere that it can be taped and more than just the cops and me , he said , she said, nope I want lots of others to hear our words.

[lake]

Remember my ORMUS experiment? http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43607-Ormus&p=494359&viewfull=1#post494359

We'll i've just got visited by the police. A baldheaded big male and a female officer.

They asked to come in and proceeded to tell me they had noticed that i've ordered some unusual chemicals and asked me to explain to them why i've bought them.

I did some quick thinking and figured what the heck, i might as well tell them about the ORMUS.

Well after hearing my story and seeing the chemicals, sea salt, and the resulting ormus, they said they thought everything was ok and thanked me and proceeded on their way out.

Halfway on the way out the baldy said (roughly translated from dutch to convey his meaning): "Oh btw thanks for creating my youtube debute, you really had a good shot of me there."

(the words are usually spoken out of sarcasm but he didn't sound mad/annoyed at all so im unsure about his intentions)

And they where gone.

Now remember the street fight a few months ago across the street wich i posted here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49493-Is-the-light-losing-the-fight-against-dumbed-down-mind-control

The baldy was one of the policeofficers who was showing much aggression, and we where shocked and we commented such in the youtube video wich i had posted online. (and have removed about 6 weeks ago)

HMMMM.. ?!??!

~Trail.

Your creation of them is of a course which you have responsibility of!
Please understand your fault in there creation of being.
The self of mind and the need for control of said item, is your responsibility and no others.

:lalala::lalala:

[meat suit]

having tought about this Trail,
I am pretty sure the video would have made them check up your purchase history, to see if they find something they can use as an excuse to pay you a visit.
I think you should be ok unless you make yourself unpopular again.....

[Star Tsar]

Be careful brother....

[gripreaper]

Are you guys supposed to let the cops in? That's a big mistake. You actually gave up your rights doing that. Here in America, most Americans don't know that and wonder why they're in so much trouble AFTER they let the cops in.....

That is correct. You should never let them come in. Once they embark on your vessel, they are considered the captain.

[Trail]

Are you guys supposed to let the cops in? That's a big mistake. You actually gave up your rights doing that. Here in America, most Americans don't know that and wonder why they're in so much trouble AFTER they let the cops in.....

That is correct. You should never let them come in. Once they embark on your vessel, they are considered the captain.

I knew this and this is why i did some quick thinking.. i hate to use the phrase 'nothing to hide' because it's the NWO's excuse to remove our privacy.. but i've let them in for the following reasons:

1) I really have nothing to hide and could easily explain why i had the chemicals.
2) I have a very attentive little 2 year old here and i still want to act like the world is great.
3) It would look very suspicious if i didn't let them in.
4) I had a feeling there was something about this guy i couldn't place, i actually payed no attention to the female officer who i think said nothing but hello and goodbye.
5) I felt something was going on and there could be more trouble if i didn't let them in.
6) I didn't feel like picking a fight, my gf is pregnant and i just got her into the hospital after their visit. She will actually deliver our new baby tomorrow. Not a good time to pick quarrels with anyone..

For now, i think what i did was the best thing i could have done.. i actually started liking the guy.. time will tell..

~Trail.

[ulli]

Trail, I hope all goes well with the delivery.
Once the new baby is home with you there will be a fresh energy, lots of happiness,
and that incident will be quickly forgotten. Just pretend it never happened.
Sometimes negative events like that happen simply because we felt very stressed,
But your new baby will be accompanied by protective and loving spirits, like all children born at this special time.

[MacStar]

You did well and you now know where you stand.

Use your own surveillance devices(dummy/BS or real) and tell them(hopefully you won't have to) that you are streaming with pin-hole cams and mics to a live server since the last visit as you feel your sovereign rights are being violated.

If you have told them this, then they as you, have been alerted to this and is admissible in court.

Congrats on the kiddies mate :)

[witchy1]

Hi Trail, what chemicals did you order. I thought it was just lyme and dirt? Maybe a bit simplistic but always good to know what they are "monitoring"

[conk]

Hi Trail, what chemicals did you order. I thought it was just lyme and dirt? Maybe a bit simplistic but always good to know what they are "monitoring"

He could have used the dirt to grow organic, healthful food. That is a no-no in the world of Monsanto and their ilk.

[happyexpat]

You gave peaceful, you got peaceful.
I agree, you had nothing to hide. Why act in a way that would obviously be deemed suspicious?

Cops are humans, too. They may not all seem like it all the time, but they are. Many of them are supporting their families with that paycheck and doing the best they can.

And thanks a bunch for sharing your adventures in making the ORMUS.

Hubby has had all the supplies for a bit and not done anything with it just yet, but it's interesting for us to read about it. I think part of the reason he hasn't jumped on it is wanting to do a bit more 'mind settling' first since he read a story about a guy who manifested a car coming at him head on in what was previously an empty road in the middle of the night.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Be brave!

Hoping you come out ok!

[Trail]

Hi Trail, what chemicals did you order. I thought it was just lyme and dirt? Maybe a bit simplistic but always good to know what they are "monitoring"

3 years later and I see this question :)

The chemical that's on a list and gets reported automatically is hypochloric acid HCL.

[Carmody]

The interesting part is the standard powdered pool cleaner is hypochloric acid... (with a chlorine aspect-where the 'chloric' part of the word comes from). And a decently pure hypochloric acid (liquid) can be extracted/converted from said pool cleaner powders.

In north America, for example, this powder can probably be purchased at a minimum of 50,000 locations. More like 200,000, and more. For example, every single Walmart and probably 5-10 other locations in the given area that the Walmart store is located in. If not more stores per Walmart area.

The current count of Walmart stores is 4,177. Multiply that by at least 10.

Google will try and change 'hypochloric' acid to 'hydrochloric' acid when one searches. They are very different.

Strong bases and acids are probably monitored due to issues of local small scale drug manufacturing. They are used for chemical reactions and conversions of chemicals from one state to another, or for chemical extraction of a desired chemical from a given matrix. 'kitchen chemistry' can be a very simple process.... but it can also be very dangerous.

Lab training is exhaustive for chemistry students -for this very reason. It's about as nasty as it gets. Possibly worse than working at a dynamite or fireworks factory.