The Dulce Project 2013

[TheDulceProject]

The Dulce Project has been set up to Document, Search and Retrieve Thomas Edwin Castello Dulce Base’s Evidence!

I am a UFO/paranormal researcher investigator and have been for the best part of 20 years. I am no "big player" by any means, so to speak, in the world of ufology, etc. My research has been mostly private and keeping the confidentiality of many of the ...witnesses and cases I have been involved in.
If you are friends with Cherry Hinkle on Facebook or have heard of her, you will know all about the Dulce Base, the genetic facility, the Dulce Papers and Thomas Edwin Castello.
You also know that Cherry was the ONLY person with Thomas when he buried the box he had with all the original evidence taken from Dulce by him!
This box remains in the same location, near the top of a mountain in Arizona – the sealed oxygen free box buried all those years ago awaits our retrieval!!
The box contents as I am sure most will know are....
27 original 8 x 10 photographs (With original negatives!!) of aliens, creatures, cages and vats etc
One silent videotape and the original microfilm which shows computer banks, the vats, various shots of the level known as nightmare hall, two shots of the greys, and a shot of the terminal displaying a sign saying "To Los Alamos" and also 30 seconds of the underground shuttle train arrive!
Also seen are 25 pages of chemical formulas, schematics of alien equipment and also diagrams (with notations!!) Also Schematics for the Flash Gun
Also found in the box are the original pages of a treaty with Governor Ronald Reagan’s signatures plus seven other political signatures plus four alien signatures.
Plus Toms working flash gun is inside the sealed box. (Which is capable of levitation of objects any size, stun, causing a temporary state of death, complete vaporization of any object without leaving any trace!)
After various discussions with Cherry she has agreed to work with me, and my working team, in the retrieval of this box!

We have agreed to film/document every aspect of this project from research and history on Dulce, Thomas and the subsequent recovery of the box and investigation of all its contents which will then be released in the future for all to see.

However this project needs help with funding.You can find out more about this project via Cherry Hinkle,s Facebook page or the new Facebook community page "The Dulce Project" this is currently just being set up and we hope to have a website up and running hopefully in the near future!
There is currently a link set up for people who would like to donate to help this project but I won't post here on the forums until one of the admins can give me the ok to do that !
However you can find the link at the Facebook community page!

Regards
Paul
The Dulce Project

[GoodETxSG]

I am not hopeful of the plan so far...

Announce to the PTB that you are about to search for some items known to be out there that they want kept secret with a person that knows where it is???

Yipes, I am sure you guys will now have some sort of surveillance on you 24/7 and a team on the ready to "take" the items the minute your shovel clinks the top of the box.

I do not mean to be negative but had to point out the elephant in the room.
Good luck.

[Lifebringer]

Seems that the more public the knowing of people around the world of the dig, the better sunlight to prevent the murders. That is what they will attempt and those lands are full of transmitters, and recievers that can pick up the hop of a rabbit or slide of a snake on the ground. Perhaps a public dig is the best method, and with hundreds of journalist, activists, and video live rolling, I don't think they would dare to try murder in broad daylight.

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi there, Paul -- and welcome to the best forum on the internet. :)

Kerry Cassidy and I were told the location of the box several years ago by T________. You'll know who he is.

While it's a great adventure story, we decided pretty much immediately that the box would almost certainly no longer be there -- our view consolidated by extensive and very visible public discussion about it on Facebook and elsewhere more recently.

I was keen to look for it, as well. As you may know, I'm an experienced mountaineer with extensive wilderness experience. It seemed right up my ally. But we would have been up against a secret government with the kind of satellite technology that could detect a shallow buried box anywhere on the planet within minutes, and with highly-trained special forces and quiet helicopters that could drop them into a target within 45 mins of the nearest base. David probably had way greater odds against Goliath.

Of course it'd be great to mount an expedition to retrieve it, but the idea that the agencies, who will have diligently tracked your admission to the forum, your opening post, and this reply(!) would quietly sit on their hands while a bunch of enthusiasts discuss their plans in the public domain, is not credible. And if the Americans for some unknown reason never acted to retrieve it... the Russians, or even the Chinese, would surely have it by now.

Even if no-one at all has retrieved it yet -- which seems hard to believe -- as soon as you were to move in the physical universe, assuming you're being well-watched (which you will be), a professional team would instantly be dispatched to pluck it from under your nose. And those guys do not fail, in the desert at night with all the technology and back-up support at their disposal. They'd be right behind you (or right in front of you!) -- and you would never see them. They are highly capable.

I don't want to discourage you! Just being realistic.

At least -- from now on, take all discussion of the project off the public domain, never ever communicate electronically (encrypted e-mails only draw attention to oneself, and they can read them anyway), only meet colleagues in noisy public places and exchange critical information on folded hand-written notes, and never have any electronic devices on you, of any kind, unless they are powered right down and have no batteries near them.

Even then, they may be reading your thoughts. (I am serious.) To suppose that their level of technology and experience can be outwitted or outguessed on a treasure hunt with national security at stake may be (excuse me, and I really mean this with respect) -- a little optimistic. I do speak from some experience, and I know exactly what we are up against here.

With my best wishes -- Bill

[AwakeInADream]

It seems to be a catch 22 situation, I'm reminded of this quote:


A FAMOUS TAOIST SAYING:

“Those who know don’t say, and those who say don’t know.”

I think to some degree constant public exposure would offer some degree of protection,
but if it's that important to TPTB (and they are getting bolder as people do nothing about it) I don't think it will be enough.

So sadly, "Those who know don't say" seems to be the best way(for now).

Still, releasing that little box of goodies simultaniously worldwide would be an amazing achievement!:)

[Arpheus]

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone would be able to walk out of Dulce with all that top secret gear and info ,that kind of thing only happens in holywood movies tho,my personal take on this box is it doesnt even exist no offense.

[Bill Ryan]

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Outside chance: contact Jesse Ventura and propose it as a standalone TV episode. They have the resources to hire a helicopter, 3G night vision goggles, and experienced support (Jesse was a SEAL, and will know others in the business). I'd be delighted to come along for the ride. :)

[TheDulceProject]

Thanks for the feedback guys.
@ Bill, yes I know who T is and all the others that have been involved including yourself and what you know etc!
I also know what I am up against and in my opinion ANY means of communicating be it electronically or not will be monitored/ intercepted regardless. I have thought much in that.I have chosen to be public about it,although not everything that will be discussed and planned etc will be put out for all to view and see that will be done face to face with all team members involved! We won't be going in on it all gung-ho so to speak and I have absolutely not be surprised that I am being monitored as well as other individuals involved.
Also what lifebringer pointed out in his post above is another reason I am being public about the project.
Regardless if the box is there it not I feel this will be the final oppertunity to know for sure and I fully intend on taking the person who knows the exact location to that location by any means to know exactly if it is there or not .
All feedback,support and opinions are more than welcome.

[AwakeInADream]

If this box were released, it makes me wonder, what lengths would TPTB go to in order to cover it up?

How BIG would the distraction have to be? World War III? Total communication blackout?

They must have made contingency plans...

[TheDulceProject]

I emailed you Bill a few days ago to see if you would be interested in being part of the team! But I am not sure if it was the correct address as I have had no reply.

[Bill Ryan]

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For the record -- Thomas Castello (yes, he was very real). I don't know if this image is anywhere else on the internet. Cherry Hinkle will recognize him. :)


http://projectavalon.net/Thomas_Castello_lg.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

I emailed you Bill a few days ago to see if you would be interested in being part of the team! But I am not sure if it was the correct address as I have had no reply.

Many thanks, Paul: I'm at bill@projectavalon.net. I didn't get any message from you -- please re-send.

I'd be delighted to help if I can (I'm usually a diehard optimist) -- but I honestly do think it's highly unlikely the box is still there. There's been so much public domain discussion about it, going back a couple of years now. While the Facebook exchanges were rolling, a military team could have slipped in to get it in 24 hours flat. It would have been little more than a training exercise for them.

Meanwhile, if they didn't already know, they'd have quietly tipped their berets to the Facebook members for revealing where it was. (In fairness, I don't know if the location was ever posted on Facebook. But I certainly exchanged PMs here on Avalon with Cherry, who confirmed the location. While the mods cannot access any PMs which are not to or from them -- they really are private -- we have to assume that the agencies can read anything they want to at any time.)

The US is a an increasingly dangerous place for activists right now, so I'm not sure if I'd want to visit the US to embark on a counter-black ops adventure campaign in the desert! It's bad enough going to Miami on a shopping trip. But I do sincerely thank you for considering me. In theory, I really might be a useful member of your team. (Visions of a sort of Expendables 3 mission. We need Kerry Cassidy in a black leather catsuit meeting the team on her motorbike, plus Arnie and Sly as mercenary advisors, to complete the billing. :) )

[RMorgan]

Hey Paul,

If this woman, who supposedly knows the location of the box, has told you about it, very probably other persons already know about it by now.

Only the fact that going public, saying that the box is buried near the top of a mountain in Arizona, already give the agencies a place to look and, with their tech, I bet they could find it without many difficulties.

Anyway, I think it´s very risky to ask people for donations, while there´s the risk of spending the donated money just to go there and find nothing.

If you indeed know the location, you could go there right now, with a five or six men team, equipped only with a couple of regular affordable digital cameras and maybe a cheap metal detector. You could rent this equipment instead of buying it.

So, in my opinion, if the box is really there, it will speak for itself. I doesn´t matter if you film it with an iphone camera; it will speak for itself, that´s for sure.

There´s really no need to spend money on expensive equipment if you can´t be sure that the box is really there, specially considering that your eventual investors will get really angry if they invest relatively large sums of money just for you to go there and find nothing.

Personally, if I knew the location of such important object, I would have gone there almost immediately. Why wait? Such situations require immediate action.

Just my two cents, anyway.

Raf.

PS: Such kind of retrieval operations should be performed FAST. You have to calculate the shortest rout, zero in the location asap, retrieve the item, extract as fast as you can and move to a safe location as fast as possible. There´s no space for TV crew with heavy and clumsy filming equipment.

[AwakeInADream]

I'm kind of hoping that "near the top of a mountain in Arizona" is a coded phrase meaning "Actually it's somewhere else and I'm not saying where until I've found it:p".

[Bill Ryan]

Hey Paul,

If this woman, who supposedly knows the location of the box, has told you about it, very probably other persons already know about it by now.

Only the fact that going public, saying that the box is buried near the top of a mountain in Arizona, already give the agencies a place to look and, with their tech, I bet they could find it without many difficulties.

Anyway, I think it´s very risky to ask people for donations, while there´s the risk of spending the donated money just to go there and find nothing.

If you indeed know the location, you could go there right now, with a five or six men team, equipped only with a couple of regular affordable digital cameras and maybe a cheap metal detector. You could rent this equipment instead of buying it.

So, in my opinion, if the box is really there, it will speak for itself. I doesn´t matter if you film it with an iphone camera; it will speak for itself, that´s for sure.

There´s really no need to spend money on expensive equipment if you can´t be sure that the box is really there, specially considering that your eventual investors will get really angry if they invest relatively large sums of money just for you to go there and find nothing.

Personally, if I knew the location of such important object, I would have gone there almost immediately. Why wait? Such situations require immediate action.

Just my two cents, anyway.

Raf.

PS: Such kind of retrieval operations should be performed FAST. You have to calculate the shortest rout, zero in the location asap, retrieve the item, extract as fast as you can and move to a safe location as fast as possible. There´s no space for TV crew with heavy and clumsy filming equipment.

I do agree. I'd propose a three-man team, in top shape, who can move fast and silently and who have extensive wilderness survival and expert navigation experience. (Three, not two, in case anyone is hurt or encounters trouble: then one can stay with that person while the other can go for help or a vehicle.)

The place is very remote, several hours from the nearest road. ATVs or dirt bikes might be an asset, but are very noisy. Easier still is to use a helicopter. John Rao (http://www.openminds.tv/contact/), based in AZ (877 836-0110 -- the public number of Open Minds Production (http://www.openminds.tv/contact/) -- 480 505-5715, or 480 302-2124), has the funds and the potential interest to assist (but he would probably want to own the contents of the box :) ).

[RMorgan]

I do agree. I'd propose a three-man team, in top shape, who can move fast and silently and who have extensive wilderness survival and expert navigation experience. (Three, not two, in case anyone is hurt or encounters trouble: then one can stay with that person while the other can go for help or a vehicle.)

The place is very remote, several hours from the nearest road. ATVs or dirt bikes might be an asset, but are very noisy. Easier still is to use a helicopter. John Rao (http://www.openminds.tv/contact/), based in AZ (877 836 0110 -- the public number of Open Minds Production), has the funds and the potential interest to assist (but he would probably want to own the contents of the box. :) )

Bill,

Helicopters are certainly faster, but they´re even easier to track than ATVs.

I´d go on foot, or, if it´s possible, on bicycles or even horses. I´d set up three different teams; two teams for distraction, each one going towards opposite directions.

No GPS, no active cellphones, just a compass, a map and physical orientation.

Raf.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm kind of hoping that "near the top of a mountain in Arizona" is a coded phrase meaning "Actually it's somewhere else and I'm not saying where until I've found it:p".

Raf, don't let on that it's really in Brazil, deep in the Amazon jungle, guarded by unfriendly locals with poison-tipped arrows. We're hoping you may join the team as a negotiator.

:)

(Yes, horses are a good idea!)

[Mutchie]

So much has been said about Dulce but i have to agree with Bill you would be up against formidable odds and i wouldnt like to think how far they would go to STOP you that is assuming the box is still out there. Can someone please tell me what happened to Thomas Costello ? Is he still alive ?

[gripreaper]

If there's one box, there should be ten of them. That's the only way to bring this out into the open.

[4evrneo]

This is one of the most fascinating stories for me due to the fact that Dulce is in Archuleta county, which is my last name and is named after our family. I have a huge interest in this for its potential and wish the best of luck in the endeavour.

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My father also retired from Los Alamos......coincidence? I think not :)

oops. I forgot its in Rio Arriba county, but the Archuleta mesa and Archuleta county named after our family is always mentioned in the story.

[Bill Ryan]

If there's one box, there should be ten of them. That's the only way to bring this out into the open.

Yes -- of course, there may be others. If so, I don't know any details.

Anyone who does, please do not post any information about their existence, electronically, under any circumstances. Written notes on paper only (or handwritten snail mail, which as best I know is still surprisingly secure). Skype audio is also not secure, and nor is iChat, even when 256-bit encrypted. (I have direct experience of Skype and iChat audio being compromised: a very funny story.)

[RMorgan]

Hi again folks,

Another point is, why not retrieve the box first, then, if there´s indeed this box, raise funds to film a documentary?

There´s no point in spending a lot of money to film the first stages of the documentary (The history of Dulce, etc...) if you can´t be sure that the box is there and its contents are really what you believe to be.

So, retrieving the box, immediately scanning and uploading its content to several web locations, distributing several physical copies of the information worldwide (cd, dvd, pendrives, etc...) then producing a full documentary would certainly be the optimum choice.

Also, at the moment you start to film a documentary about Dulce, the agencies will start tracking you...It´s like asking to be tracked. Even making this thread was already a really bad choice and, man, no comments on starting a facebook page about this subject...

Anyway, it would be much easier to raise funds when you actually have something to show to investors.

Raf.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi again folks,

Another point is, why not retrieve the box first, then, if there´s indeed this box, raise funds to film a documentary?

There´s no point in spending a lot of money to film the first stages of the documentary (The history of Dulce, etc...) if you can´t be sure that the box is there and its contents are really what you believe to be.

So, retrieving the box, immediately scanning and uploading its content to several web locations, distributing several physical copies of the information worldwide (cd, dvd, pendrives, etc...) then producing a full documentary would certainly be the optimum choice.

Besides, it would be much easier to raise funds when you actually have something to show to investors.

Raf.

Significant funds aren't needed to clearly document a retrieval on video. $750/£450 will get you a good pocket-sized camcorder which records to hard disk in low light and has a pretty good mike. Another $100 would get you a spare 4-hour battery (recommended).

Considering travel, hire of essential resources, and other sundries, you should be able to get a small team in and out for around $5000/£3000, including someone flying in from Europe. (It might be quite a bit less.)

:)

http://beyondthebunker.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/the-hobbit.jpg

[mojo]

Thanks Bill that was the first time I got see a photo of Thomas Castello. About a year ago I was in contact with a gentleman that worked at Lawrence Livermore Labs, he's retired now. He had an amazing story, since he had to work in a few of the underground places, I wondered if there was a way he could share non-secret but possibly confidential mechanics of the underground system. Since he was an engineer he mentioned the air sytem he was familiar with that brought fresh air in underground. It was crazy and in no way was it possible to enter via the air system with the protections it had. I shared that feedback here before, but not now. The thought was to find questions to learn more about the base from the forum and friends and to ask him. Soon, I realized this was not in my best interests. Anything the PTB wanted to hide is best to move on to other areas of paranormal research. Most of us already believe the base is there and the stuff that Thomas mentioned is going on. Sometimes it's best to pick your battle and find the areas thaat won't bring the heat...but true it would be cool to be part of the group that opened the box...although even if you got the box it might not be in your possession very long...Like after you dig it up...but good luck if still decide to move forward.

[WEAREONE]

After seeing the interview he did with David Icke aired right after your show I am a bit surprised you would count Jesse the body ventura as a person who can be how can I put this.....trusted? Or is it a suggestion as a means to an end? As for that interview whether or not it was tv drama acting or real, the end result was a wasted opportunity for the ideas and concepts David Icke offers to be viewed by a larger market of people who may have learned something, sparked an interest. It was very obvious to me there was no real consideration to convey to the audience the message David Icke had to offer. It was childish and unprofessional and really just made me think very little of Jesse and his show. Actually quite dissapointing, thought we had a legit spokesperson for alternative views. Imagine a real show with real integrity doing what the show claims it does and has the financial backing and popular viewing on mainstream t.v. Someday





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Outside chance: contact Jesse Ventura and propose it as a standalone TV episode. They have the resources to hire a helicopter, 3G night vision goggles, and experienced support (Jesse was a SEAL, and will know others in the business). I'd be delighted to come along for the ride. :)

[RMorgan]

Significant funds aren't needed to clearly document a retrieval on video. $750/£450 will get you a good pocket-sized camcorder which records to hard disk in low light and has a pretty good mike. Another $100 would get you a spare 4-hour battery (recommended).

Considering travel, hire of essential resources, and other sundries, you should be able to get a small team in and out for around $5000/£3000, including someone flying in from Europe. (It might be quite a bit less.)

:)


Exactly Bill,

Besides, you can always borrow or rent equipment instead of buying them, and I´m sure many people would love to be part of such team free of charges, using their own personal resources.

If I was in the US, I would certainly love to participate in such adventure, using my own resources. That´s for sure.

The main problem is, if there really is this box, and its content is really what we think it is, then it´s a time-bomb.

You can scan and upload copies of its content to the web, but what to do with the original content? I wouldn´t like to keep it close to me, in fact, I wouldn´t even want to know where it´s located after retrieval and scanning.

The agencies know that, independently if you have uploaded copies to the web, the originals are what really matter. They´ll do anything to retrieve the originals.

Raf.

[Bill Ryan]

Can someone please tell me what happened to Thomas Costello ? Is he still alive ?

According to this (very interesting) report, he was alive in Europe as of October 2009, and thought he had maybe 12-18 months to live having been diagnosed with cancer.

http://alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out.html





Thomas Edwin Castello is currently living in exile in a European country that, for obvious reasons cannot be named. He is living under an identity that protects his well-being and allows him to live a "normal" life. I met Thomas a number of years ago and have known him by his alternate identity up until around two weeks ago. Thomas has recently been diagnosed with a terminal cancer related illness and is compiling what he calls a final document detailing his experiences as a Senior Security Technician at the Dulce underground facility in New Mexico.

Now to make it clear I have never had any interest in UFO's etc. Thomas has filled me in on his story and asked me to post on all the major forums and contact all the key players in the field.

What he has asked me to do is gather a list of questions that people would like answering about his time at the Dulce NM base. He has already fleshed out what is currently available online. He also want to make it clear that he has made preparations for info that he smuggled out of the base to be copied and forwarded to major media outlets in time for the start of 2010. All original recipients of the info, or in cases where they have passed away the designated secondary recipients are aware of the situation and are processing the documents as we speak.

Thomas doubts that mainstream media will take the info seriously due to the subject matter but feels its worth a shot. The information is also being compiled into PDF format for distribution on the internet. I will be responsible for the online distribution of this material. As it stands the info will not be posted to forums. It will be hosted on a private and secure server. When available, details on how to view and download the material will be made available. I would like to make it clear that this info will be freely available.

If you would like any more info please post below. Dont forget, please also post any questions for Thomas here. I will compile tem and get them to him ASAP.
(more reports on the 117 pages which follow -- a lot of reading to do!)

[Ammit]

Go for it, get your folks together and go dig.. Afterall, if it is no longer there then they will not bother you..

[RMorgan]

Can someone please tell me what happened to Thomas Costello ? Is he still alive ?

According to this (very interesting) report, he was alive in Europe as of October 2009, and thought he had maybe 12-18 months to live having been diagnosed with cancer.

http://alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out.html





Thomas Edwin Castello is currently living in exile in a European country that, for obvious reasons cannot be named. He is living under an identity that protects his well-being and allows him to live a "normal" life. I met Thomas a number of years ago and have known him by his alternate identity up until around two weeks ago. Thomas has recently been diagnosed with a terminal cancer related illness and is compiling what he calls a final document detailing his experiences as a Senior Security Technician at the Dulce underground facility in New Mexico.

Now to make it clear I have never had any interest in UFO's etc. Thomas has filled me in on his story and asked me to post on all the major forums and contact all the key players in the field.

What he has asked me to do is gather a list of questions that people would like answering about his time at the Dulce NM base. He has already fleshed out what is currently available online. He also want to make it clear that he has made preparations for info that he smuggled out of the base to be copied and forwarded to major media outlets in time for the start of 2010. All original recipients of the info, or in cases where they have passed away the designated secondary recipients are aware of the situation and are processing the documents as we speak.

Thomas doubts that mainstream media will take the info seriously due to the subject matter but feels its worth a shot. The information is also being compiled into PDF format for distribution on the internet. I will be responsible for the online distribution of this material. As it stands the info will not be posted to forums. It will be hosted on a private and secure server. When available, details on how to view and download the material will be made available. I would like to make it clear that this info will be freely available.

If you would like any more info please post below. Dont forget, please also post any questions for Thomas here. I will compile tem and get them to him ASAP.
(more reports on the 117 pages which follow -- a lot of reading to do!)


Hey Bill,

Apparently, this forum user was a hoaxer.

One of the pictures he posted here (http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out-5.html), allegedly from Dulce, was brilliantly debunked here (http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out-9.html):

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8242/dulcebusted.png[/URL] Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)[/IMG]

Man, he was also debunked so hard in page 62 (http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out-62.html), regarding other pictures allegedly from Dulce posted by him. He forgot to erase the metadata and another forum member found the original picture.

Then, he finally admitted he is a hoaxer:


Thank you all for helping me with my creative writing project, it was fun while it lasted...I have to say dundee, good work.

Oh man...Good example on how people can be incredibly gullible.

Raf.

[TheDulceProject]

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For the record -- Thomas Castello (yes, he was very real). I don't know if this image is anywhere else on the internet. Cherry Hinkle will recognize him. :)


http://projectavalon.net/Thomas_Castello_lg.jpg


This is a true image of Thomas,the only one there is actually.

[4evrneo]

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[TheDulceProject]

I emailed you Bill a few days ago to see if you would be interested in being part of the team! But I am not sure if it was the correct address as I have had no reply.

Many thanks, Paul: I'm at bill@projectavalon.net. I didn't get any message from you -- please re-send.

I'd be delighted to help if I can (I'm usually a diehard optimist) -- but I honestly do think it's highly unlikely the box is still there. There's been so much public domain discussion about it, going back a couple of years now. While the Facebook exchanges were rolling, a military team could have slipped in to get it in 24 hours flat. It would have been little more than a training exercise for them.

Meanwhile, if they didn't already know, they'd have quietly tipped their berets to the Facebook members for revealing where it was. (In fairness, I don't know if the location was ever posted on Facebook. But I certainly exchanged PMs here on Avalon with Cherry, who confirmed the location. While the mods cannot access any PMs which are not to or from them -- they really are private -- we have to assume that the agencies can read anything they want to at any time.)

The US is a an increasingly dangerous place for activists right now, so I'm not sure if I'd want to visit the US to embark on a counter-black ops adventure campaign in the desert! It's bad enough going to Miami on a shopping trip. But I do sincerely thank you for considering me. In theory, I really might be a useful member of your team. (Visions of a sort of Expendables 3 mission. We need Kerry Cassidy in a black leather catsuit meeting the team on her motorbike, plus Arnie and Sly as mercenary advisors, to complete the billing. :) )

Hello Bill,
That was the email i used to contact you.I will write to you again later this evening.

[Mutchie]

Why is it whenever a SERIOUS witness comes along with a REAL STORY we constantly hear they have contracted cancer it has happened time and time again ???? I wander if it is given to them rather than anything else !!!:( The above post is fascinating i want to know everything and if i had the money i would go on that adventure Dangerous or not .....

[TheDulceProject]

Hey Paul,

If this woman, who supposedly knows the location of the box, has told you about it, very probably other persons already know about it by now.

Only the fact that going public, saying that the box is buried near the top of a mountain in Arizona, already give the agencies a place to look and, with their tech, I bet they could find it without many difficulties.

Anyway, I think it´s very risky to ask people for donations, while there´s the risk of spending the donated money just to go there and find nothing.

If you indeed know the location, you could go there right now, with a five or six men team, equipped only with a couple of regular affordable digital cameras and maybe a cheap metal detector. You could rent this equipment instead of buying it.

So, in my opinion, if the box is really there, it will speak for itself. I doesn´t matter if you film it with an iphone camera; it will speak for itself, that´s for sure.

There´s really no need to spend money on expensive equipment if you can´t be sure that the box is really there, specially considering that your eventual investors will get really angry if they invest relatively large sums of money just for you to go there and find nothing.

Personally, if I knew the location of such important object, I would have gone there almost immediately. Why wait? Such situations require immediate action.

Just my two cents, anyway.

Raf.

PS: Such kind of retrieval operations should be performed FAST. You have to calculate the shortest rout, zero in the location asap, retrieve the item, extract as fast as you can and move to a safe location as fast as possible. There´s no space for TV crew with heavy and clumsy filming equipment.

I dont know the exact location as i asked her not to tell me over the internet etc but only face to face.

I would be there in an instant if i could but it does take planning among other things and not forgetting the cost of travel etc etc

[TheDulceProject]

Hey Paul,

If this woman, who supposedly knows the location of the box, has told you about it, very probably other persons already know about it by now.

Only the fact that going public, saying that the box is buried near the top of a mountain in Arizona, already give the agencies a place to look and, with their tech, I bet they could find it without many difficulties.

Anyway, I think it´s very risky to ask people for donations, while there´s the risk of spending the donated money just to go there and find nothing.

If you indeed know the location, you could go there right now, with a five or six men team, equipped only with a couple of regular affordable digital cameras and maybe a cheap metal detector. You could rent this equipment instead of buying it.

So, in my opinion, if the box is really there, it will speak for itself. I doesn´t matter if you film it with an iphone camera; it will speak for itself, that´s for sure.

There´s really no need to spend money on expensive equipment if you can´t be sure that the box is really there, specially considering that your eventual investors will get really angry if they invest relatively large sums of money just for you to go there and find nothing.

Personally, if I knew the location of such important object, I would have gone there almost immediately. Why wait? Such situations require immediate action.

Just my two cents, anyway.

Raf.

PS: Such kind of retrieval operations should be performed FAST. You have to calculate the shortest rout, zero in the location asap, retrieve the item, extract as fast as you can and move to a safe location as fast as possible. There´s no space for TV crew with heavy and clumsy filming equipment.

I do agree. I'd propose a three-man team, in top shape, who can move fast and silently and who have extensive wilderness survival and expert navigation experience. (Three, not two, in case anyone is hurt or encounters trouble: then one can stay with that person while the other can go for help or a vehicle.)

The place is very remote, several hours from the nearest road. ATVs or dirt bikes might be an asset, but are very noisy. Easier still is to use a helicopter. John Rao (http://www.openminds.tv/contact/), based in AZ (877 836-0110 -- the public number of Open Minds Production (http://www.openminds.tv/contact/) -- 480 505-5715, or 480 302-2124), has the funds and the potential interest to assist (but he would probably want to own the contents of the box :) ).

As i planned to do this the quickest way possible i had planned to use a helicopter to get there along with the person who knows the location exactly and get them to point out the exact location from the chopper,with the possibilty of landing there and then and getting the box.So another reason we need a little help with funding.

[Mutchie]

So your thinking you find the spot then land then dig and if you find it straight into the chopper and off - I wouldn't be surprised if you got blown out of the air "that's if you found it" or am i being a bit dramatic there ?:confused:

[Freed Fox]

lmao @ The Expendables 3... that was priceless Bill :lol:

This is all very interesting, and I want to thank DulceProject and wish him the best of luck, along with whoever chooses to accompany him. I would love to join the group, but I doubt I would be entirely valuable (outside of having a pair of shovel-ready hands).

Fear no evil, even if it seems a very reasonable approach.

[HaveBlue]

John Lear and Linda Moulton Howe had a look for it years ago. The scrub and other vegetation had changed so much, the terrain was hostile, the sun and heat had them not spend too much time on it.

Is it there? Who knows, apart from thse that really do!
It all sounds like a question you can only answer if you are the likes of James Cameron. (if you want to see Titanic you pay for it yourself and try to recover costs later, with no gaurantees) Did Steven Greer raise enough for his movie in the end that we are all still waiting for?

Edit: and David Wilcocks movie, and we may as well give up on Gordon Novels movie plans too unless it is done posthumously.

Jesse Ventura was spending Tru TVs money, not his own. Just before Xmas I saw him on infowars saying all of the crew had been paid except him and how they were screwing around season 3 so much that he doubted he'd be having much to do with in future.

Bill knows only too well what Tru TV are like. :crazy:

[TheDulceProject]

So much has been said about Dulce but i have to agree with Bill you would be up against formidable odds and i wouldnt like to think how far they would go to STOP you that is assuming the box is still out there. Can someone please tell me what happened to Thomas Costello ? Is he still alive ?
Thomas has not made contact as agreed at set time/dates etc since 1991 he was apparently working in another undeground base in Costa Rica.There was 7.5 Earthquake that hit that area in April 1991 and Thomas is now presumed dead due to that event.

On another note i am originally from Scotland and i see from your profile you are also.!

[RMorgan]

As i planned to do this the quickest way possible i had planned to use a helicopter to get there along with the person who knows the location exactly and get them to point out the exact location from the chopper,with the possibilty of landing there and then and getting the box.So another reason we need a little help with funding.

Hey Paul,

Man, don´t use a helicopter.

You´re already attracting too much attention to yourself. You have a facebook page about this issue, which was a terrible choice. You made a forum post about it, which was another bad choice.

If this box is indeed there, I mean, if it´s really important, you can be sure that they are tracking you 24/7/365.

If you use a helicopter, you will be a sitting duck, after all, helicopter accidents happen all the time, right?

Right now, after all the publicity, I can´t figure out any possibility for you to retrieve this box without being tracked, really.

Also, have in mind that your friend might not be telling you the truth, after all, if there´s such a box, with such an important content, and a person goes public about knowing its location like your friend did, I wouldn´t expect this person to be alive by now.

Maybe, if she´s telling the truth, the very fact that she´s still alive means that the box isn´t there anymore.

Raf.

[Bill Ryan]

Why is it whenever a SERIOUS witness comes along with a REAL STORY we constantly hear they have contracted cancer it has happened time and time again ???? I wander if it is given to them rather than anything else !!!:( The above post is fascinating i want to know everything and if i had the money i would go on that adventure Dangerous or not .....

It was almost certainly a hoax, I'm afraid ...revealed on p.9 of that long thread. (Interesting reading...)

[TheDulceProject]

Hi again folks,

Another point is, why not retrieve the box first, then, if there´s indeed this box, raise funds to film a documentary?

There´s no point in spending a lot of money to film the first stages of the documentary (The history of Dulce, etc...) if you can´t be sure that the box is there and its contents are really what you believe to be.

So, retrieving the box, immediately scanning and uploading its content to several web locations, distributing several physical copies of the information worldwide (cd, dvd, pendrives, etc...) then producing a full documentary would certainly be the optimum choice.

Also, at the moment you start to film a documentary about Dulce, the agencies will start tracking you...It´s like asking to be tracked. Even making this thread was already a really bad choice and, man, no comments on starting a facebook page about this subject...

Anyway, it would be much easier to raise funds when you actually have something to show to investors.

Raf.

I intended on documenting the whole process/event from research/history on Dulce,Thomas as well as documenting the search for and hopefully the location and investigation and research of its contents!
I am well aware of the risks involved as well as what i am posting publicly.Another part of the reason for funding help is for better equipment for filming other than the basic kits i have.
I will be looking for a few individuals to join me and help make up my team and also help with documenting this with the view to releasing it for Television viewing.

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Hi again folks,

Another point is, why not retrieve the box first, then, if there´s indeed this box, raise funds to film a documentary?

There´s no point in spending a lot of money to film the first stages of the documentary (The history of Dulce, etc...) if you can´t be sure that the box is there and its contents are really what you believe to be.

So, retrieving the box, immediately scanning and uploading its content to several web locations, distributing several physical copies of the information worldwide (cd, dvd, pendrives, etc...) then producing a full documentary would certainly be the optimum choice.

Besides, it would be much easier to raise funds when you actually have something to show to investors.

Raf.

Significant funds aren't needed to clearly document a retrieval on video. $750/£450 will get you a good pocket-sized camcorder which records to hard disk in low light and has a pretty good mike. Another $100 would get you a spare 4-hour battery (recommended).

Considering travel, hire of essential resources, and other sundries, you should be able to get a small team in and out for around $5000/£3000, including someone flying in from Europe. (It might be quite a bit less.)

:)

http://beyondthebunker.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/the-hobbit.jpg

Albeit that is a reasonable cost i figure it would be a little more than that estimate and still something i would need help with hence the required need for funding help.

[mojo]

I wouldn't be surprised if you got blown out of the air "that's if you found it"
Didn't this supposedly happen at area 51? There we\ere some individuals that wanted to leak info and the helicopteer was crashed on the way out of area 5...

[TheDulceProject]

Can someone please tell me what happened to Thomas Costello ? Is he still alive ?

According to this (very interesting) report, he was alive in Europe as of October 2009, and thought he had maybe 12-18 months to live having been diagnosed with cancer.

http://alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/21550-terminally-ill-thomas-edwin-castello-speaks-out.html





Thomas Edwin Castello is currently living in exile in a European country that, for obvious reasons cannot be named. He is living under an identity that protects his well-being and allows him to live a "normal" life. I met Thomas a number of years ago and have known him by his alternate identity up until around two weeks ago. Thomas has recently been diagnosed with a terminal cancer related illness and is compiling what he calls a final document detailing his experiences as a Senior Security Technician at the Dulce underground facility in New Mexico.

Now to make it clear I have never had any interest in UFO's etc. Thomas has filled me in on his story and asked me to post on all the major forums and contact all the key players in the field.

What he has asked me to do is gather a list of questions that people would like answering about his time at the Dulce NM base. He has already fleshed out what is currently available online. He also want to make it clear that he has made preparations for info that he smuggled out of the base to be copied and forwarded to major media outlets in time for the start of 2010. All original recipients of the info, or in cases where they have passed away the designated secondary recipients are aware of the situation and are processing the documents as we speak.

Thomas doubts that mainstream media will take the info seriously due to the subject matter but feels its worth a shot. The information is also being compiled into PDF format for distribution on the internet. I will be responsible for the online distribution of this material. As it stands the info will not be posted to forums. It will be hosted on a private and secure server. When available, details on how to view and download the material will be made available. I would like to make it clear that this info will be freely available.

If you would like any more info please post below. Dont forget, please also post any questions for Thomas here. I will compile tem and get them to him ASAP.
(more reports on the 117 pages which follow -- a lot of reading to do!)


Unfortunately there isnt a word of truth in any of that IMO!

[HaveBlue]

I wouldn't be surprised if you got blown out of the air "that's if you found it"
Didn't this supposedly happen at area 51? There we\ere some individuals that wanted to leak info and the helicopteer was crashed on the way out of area 5...

Wendle Stevens had Connor O'Ryan/Derek Hennessy talk about MALAKAI in which that is said to have happened. Rick O'Keefe UFO Hypotheses on youtube or his website if you want more on this.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

not post any information


Anyone who does, please do not post any information about their existence, electronically, under any circumstances. Written notes on paper only (or handwritten snail mail, which as best I know is still surprisingly secure). Skype audio is also not secure, and nor is iChat, even when 256-bit encrypted. (I have direct experience

A good way to find out if they have an eye on you is keeping your mobile phone close to your computer( next to it), your phone will make a short (relay noise), this sometimes also happens a second before you get a text or phone call, when this happens and you dont get a call or text, they are riding your signal and listening in, usually happens when you use some red flag words during typing online or during a call, so be carefull, this response alone will be a "funny one" . But anyway, keep your cell phone close to computer and see for yourself, when it makes a sound like its receiving or transmitting in advance of the usual call or text and you dont get any, you are f@cked ( routinely). So Beware. I will not repeat this post.

Last week or the week before there was a thread named something like "do you know any whistleblowers" ( or someone close to some fire), not clever to respond to such a post and you know who you are.

Bragging about these contacts does nothing for them and puts them in danger ( if there is any)remember the words of the late Gordon Novel, "I dont need the egotrip of being associated with them" These words were not only used as wisdom, they were a warning. ( and my phone made the funny noise now) prtprtprtprt.

There is a distinct difference to thanking posts ( you have only read them) and participating ( being an active participant), dont forget that.

[Bill Ryan]

John Lear and Linda Moulton Howe had a look for it years ago. The scrub and other vegetation had changed so much, the terrain was hostile, the sun and heat had them not spend too much time on it.

Yes -- the terrain would be extremely difficult for most people. This is why Paul wants to bring Cherry Hinkle in by helicopter to identify the location... it'd be the only way to get her in there. For anyone else, you'd need to be at least an amateur back-country specialist, in pretty good shape and with a lot of experience.


Jesse Ventura was spending Tru TVs money, not his own. Just before Xmas I saw him on infowars saying all of the crew had been paid except him and how they were screwing around season 3 so much that he doubted he'd be having much to do with in future.

Bill knows only too well what Tru TV are like. :crazy:

Yes. :) My (serious) suggestion to contact Jesse was not based on how he'd treated David Icke. That was probably decided by the producers, who would have relished the confrontation -- though Jesse appeared to be a willing conspirator, and should have known better. It's simply that an expedition to dig up the box would be classic TV Reality Show dramatic material, and would be well worth hiring a $10k helicopter for when each episode probably costs close to $100k.

[HaveBlue]

I'm trying to remember just who it was that John took with him. The person could not pick a spot because of the terrain change. Was that person Cheery? If so then it's a been there done that.
If you are not banned at godlike prod like I am on any given day because I won't pay $10 per week! Then you or I could ask john on his thread who it was he went with to search for the box.

As far as the jesse/david thing goes, it has nothing to do with this and yes david should not need 9 hours to give a brief summary of the reptilian thing. That is fair enough. Otherwise call it a personality clash that myself and alex jones would rather have not seen happen.

Note, I was banned at GLP for typing the name alex jones too. Use axel johnsley and you'll get past the instaban if you do want to mention him at all!

[M0JFK]

The power of their media would disclaim anything you find anyway and that would be the end of it. You would be made out to be a UFO tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. Drag some muck up on you or even make it up (they don’t care) and that would be the end of the whole matter. No need to send in special ops teams they would just make you out to be a nut and your evidence a forgery.

[HaveBlue]

@665 POTB, I get that from time to time and I do not have a cellphone. Nor wireless devices. I do believe it is interference by cellphone frequencies though. I am always typing things that the PTB will be aware of. they need to know that we know that they (not I) are the crooks that should get a real job! Not all but alot of em'.
No such thing as never or always after all!

[RMorgan]

I'm trying to remember just who it was that John took with him. The person could not pick a spot because of the terrain change. Was that person Cheery? If so then it's a been there done that.
If you are not banned at godlike prod like I am on any given day because I won't pay $10 per week! Then you or I could ask john on his thread who it was he went with to search for the box.


That´s another important point, my friend.

After so many years, is very unlikely that someone could remember the exact spot of the allegedly buried box, unless it´s close enough to a very atypical rock formation or any other reference point easy enough to spot.

I´ve never been to Arizona, but I´ve been to other rocky deserts...Everything looks the same, that´s why is so easy to get lost.

If she doesn´t know the exact coordinates, or if the box isn´t buried near a very recognizable geographic point, you better be ready to spend a few days scanning an undefined radius of desert land with metal detectors (if the box or its content contain metals).

Also, if she´s been there by foot, it´s very unlikely she would recognize the place from a helicopter. Things look completely different when watched from above, specially a desert.

[ghostrider]

I would get many three person teams together, all moving in different directions, as the motor-cade for the president does , decoys. the more the better. All with the exact same m.o. all using the same everything, hide the rabbit in the open. All moving on the same night, same everything... hard to tell who is on the right path and too much to follow at once... even the vehicles that transport to the area, all the same color , same type... follow up all infromation with ( for entertainment purposes only ) ...To beat them at their game, one must use their own protocals against them... when in rome... you get the idea...I would venture if you easily acess close to the area, the box is long gone... if you pick up a tail, it could still be where you think it is ...

[Craig]

Initially I read this post with a great excitement, page 3 it has petered out a bit from reading all the replies. Ghostrider above made some good points, also with a lot of diversion any on the ground tails could be quickly spotted. What about some type of live TV involved so everything can be captured and transmitted to a number of other sources and copied? Interest is very high, could get possible hundreds of people to show up to run interference? If true this is the event of a lifetime, if not well plant a few geocaches.

Whatever your choices I wish you great luck and look forward to reading how it all goes.

[Tangri]

If this box were released, it makes me wonder, what lengths would TPTB go to in order to cover it up?

How BIG would the distraction have to be? World War III? Total communication blackout?

They must have made contingency plans...

The proximate cause of the danger at the treasure hunt is in different optional threat.
First, team members reliability
Second unnamed out site interference
Third unexplained accidents occurrence
Forth official intervene with Homeland security act .
This delivery prone to stillbirth.

If I were" the person who knows the exact location to that location by any means to know exactly if it is there or not" I would not come to close to your nearby in this time being.

[Taurean]

Is that the only " nugget " that will ever come out of Dulce ?

I would have thought it would be easier to work on a way to get another package out of the facility.

While ever there are comings and goings in and out there must be other opportunities.

[TheDulceProject]

Initially I read this post with a great excitement, page 3 it has petered out a bit from reading all the replies. Ghostrider above made some good points, also with a lot of diversion any on the ground tails could be quickly spotted. What about some type of live TV involved so everything can be captured and transmitted to a number of other sources and copied? Interest is very high, could get possible hundreds of people to show up to run interference? If true this is the event of a lifetime, if not well plant a few geocaches.

Whatever your choices I wish you great luck and look forward to reading how it all goes.

There is nothing set in stone yet regarding specific plans! I am open to ideas. I have thought about what you suggested regarding tv or live tv with a number of people/a team that could help fund the whole event although I wouldn't know where to start regarding that regarding who or what companies would be interested in this project!

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If this box were released, it makes me wonder, what lengths would TPTB go to in order to cover it up?

How BIG would the distraction have to be? World War III? Total communication blackout?

They must have made contingency plans...

The proximate cause of the danger at the treasure hunt is in different optional threat.
First, team members reliability
Second unnamed out site interference
Third unexplained accidents occurrence
Forth official intervene with Homeland security act .
This delivery prone to stillbirth.

If I were" the person who knows the exact location to that location by any means to know exactly if it is there or not" I would not come to close to your nearby in this time being.
My main worry for now would be the reliability of team members

[witchy1]

Hi Bill, I have asked Cherry to contact you.

Paul, I ask with the utmost sincerity - Is this wise to have this thread? Cherry has had many attempts on her life, has a missing daughter and a son killed in suspicious circumstances. She has much insider knowledge

Please dont give them another reason to try and take her life. They told her they "let" her live last time...this time I fear they will succeed.

You advise that you understand the dangers - after all this is not a random walk in the wilderness or Sunday walk up the mountains and your concern is for the "reliability" of the team.

My concern is for Cherry's safety - If I can please ask you to consider other people.

I want this box out of the ground in the public domain as much as anyone - but with all the "openness" I fear the price will be exceptionally high.

I have asked Cherry to pop in for a read and a chat

For those who are yet to understand Dulce, Cherry and Tom - please start here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8393-The-alien-shoot-out-at-Dulce-underground-base&highlight=dulce Post 22 and avoid the drama videos at the start.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8393-The-alien-shoot-out-at-Dulce-underground-base
Fixed link - but think mods beat me to it. Thanks

[TheDulceProject]

Hi Bill, I have asked Cherry to contact you.

Paul, I ask with the utmost sincerity - Is this wise to have this thread? Cherry has had many attempts on her life, has a missing daughter and a son killed in suspicious circumstances.

Please dont give them another reason to try and stop her. I fear they will succeed.

You advise that you understand the dangers - after all this is not a random walk in the wilderness or Sunday walk up the mountains and your concern is for the "reliability" of the team.

My concern is for Cherry's safety - If I can please ask you to consider other people.
Hello Witchy1
Me and Cherry have spoken a lot about this. I am we'll aware of all the incidents that Cherry has been involved on through her life! Cherry is aware of me sharing all information and content relating to the project and has given me the ok to do so! The fact I came to this site is through Cherry,s recommendation of Bill andproject avalon ! EVERYTHING I do is run by Cherry first to get her approval or not!
My first and foremost thoughts are with her and my whole reason and purpose of this is to help her! If you know her you will know what I mean by that statement.
Regard
Paul

[Mystery]

Greetings Bill and other interested readers - please allow me to correct a misundersting regarding Tom Castello - When Tom died in a major earthquake that hit an underground facility near the Costa Rice/Panama, he was in excellent health. I have no idea who created the 'cancer' story, bt it is totally mistaken. Tom died in April in1991 when a 7.5 earthquake leveled the area. He is assumed dead because since that date he has not contacted me - he knew our arrangement - if I do not hear from him for four months, I am to know he was dead. Tom was VERY clear about that arrangement, and he would have never have changed the arrangement with out letting me know.
Tom was very healthy, and he never lived abroad - strictly in the western hemisphere - he lived from Canada to southern tip of Brazil. I am 100% positive of that fact!
I do know who pretended to be Thomas Castello - but who ever it was - was *NOT* the real Tom. I have no idea why some one would be so cruel but the but that person created a hoax. I do wish you should have contacted me when it happened - but the damage is done now, and have all this mistaken concepts are strong in your mind - and all it needed was a simple note to me to confirm the facts.
I have mourned the death of my best friend since that earthquake, and it hurts me deeply that some coldblooded soul went out of his way to create a monsterous hoax. Tom died April 1991 - that is 100% a real fact.
Blessings to you all -
Cherry (Mystery)

[witchy1]

Hello Witchy1
Me and Cherry have spoken a lot about this. I am we'll aware of all the incidents that Cherry has been involved on through her life! Cherry is aware of me sharing all information and content relating to the project and has given me the ok to do so! The fact I came to this site is through Cherry,s recommendation of Bill andproject avalon ! EVERYTHING I do is run by Cherry first to get her approval or not!
My first and foremost thoughts are with her and my whole reason and purpose of this is to help her! If you know her you will know what I mean by that statement.
Regard
Paul

I have spoken to Cherry and understand she has given her blessing. That is the only reason I have tried to be politically correct in my request for you to reconsider the "openness".
I stand my ground - I make no apologies for caring about a dear friend. I will refrain from speaking my mind further.

PS - Lovely to see you here again Cherry. I aplogise in advance if I have spoken out of turn - It is intended only with the very best intentions. I would much rather this go completely off line as Bill suggested earlier & taken off face book. If funding is needed (which it appears it is!) and the scrambling for ideas on how it will work - would have been best placed well in the background.

[Mystery]

Witchy1 - thank you so much for your concerns and a million thanks for letting me know regarding the false idea that Tom lived to 2009 and the major mistake that he died from cancer. That is such a grave insult to this man's memory, everyone that knew Tom was the healthiest man anyone could ever hope to be. I seriously wish SOMEONE -- *ANYone* had let me know this hoax was going on - it would have prevented the continuing hoax in one brief one note. But I am only one 71 year woman doing my best to fulfill Tom's wishes.

For those that do not know, my husband was been in the hospital for 2-1/2 months this summer, most of that time Bill (my hubby) was in intensive care - three times he 'died' but thanks to good doctors, his life was restored three times. Is is better now, but since June 2012 - about I could concentrate on was Bill's medical condition. For that reason I have very little time to relax and spend time on my laptop. I'm sorry I haven't had time to spend time here on Avalon.
Thank you Witchy1 for your help - without your note me, I never would a bit about it.
Sincere thank - my dear friend! right now I am exhausted, it is almost 2:30 in the morning & I need to try to sleep a little. I'll just give Bill his medication and get him to bed. Good night my friends.
Cherry

[TheDulceProject]

Greetings Bill and other interested readers - please allow me to correct a misundersting regarding Tom Castello - When Tom died in a major earthquake that hit an underground facility near the Costa Rice/Panama, he was in excellent health. I have no idea who created the 'cancer' story, bt it is totally mistaken. Tom died in April in1991 when a 7.5 earthquake leveled the area. He is assumed dead because since that date he has not contacted me - he knew our arrangement - if I do not hear from him for four months, I am to know he was dead. Tom was VERY clear about that arrangement, and he would have never have changed the arrangement with out letting me know.
Tom was very healthy, and he never lived abroad - strictly in the western hemisphere - he lived from Canada to southern tip of Brazil. I am 100% positive of that fact!
I do know who pretended to be Thomas Castello - but who ever it was - was *NOT* the real Tom. I have no idea why some one would be so cruel but the but that person created a hoax. I do wish you should have contacted me when it happened - but the damage is done now, and have all this mistaken concepts are strong in your mind - and all it needed was a simple note to me to confirm the facts.
I have mourned the death of my best friend since that earthquake, and it hurts me deeply that some coldblooded soul went out of his way to create a monsterous hoax. Tom died April 1991 - that is 100% a real fact.
Blessings to you all -
Cherry (Mystery)

Hello Cherry
Thank you for joining the thread! I sent you a message relating to this but seems like you beat me to it!
Regards
Paul

[DNA]

I wouldn't be surprised if you got blown out of the air "that's if you found it"
Didn't this supposedly happen at area 51? There we\ere some individuals that wanted to leak info and the helicopteer was crashed on the way out of area 5...

Wendle Stevens had Connor O'Ryan/Derek Hennessy talk about MALAKAI in which that is said to have happened. Rick O'Keefe UFO Hypotheses on youtube or his website if you want more on this.

The S4 series by Wendelle Stevens is the best area 51 info source I have ever seen, and possibly the best insider documentary regarding the subject of all time. I started a thread here a while back on it. S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Volume-One-Wendelle-Stevens-and-Bob-Dean)


A few questions for The Dulce Project:

1.Do you have a take on the Anthony Sanchez Dulce story as outlined here (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?22933-DULCE-INTERVIEW-Anthony-Sanchez-interviews-Colonel-X&highlight=) through his interview with Colonial X?

2.What is the word on Castillo's take that there are reptillian beings in Dulce?

3. Have you ever heard of the Lacerta interview (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?18983-Lacerta-An-interview-with-a-female-reptillian&highlight=)and do you have an opinion on it?

[witchy1]

Hi DNA, Cherry covers off all of that on the Dulce thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8393-The-alien-shoot-out-at-Dulce-underground-base

[TheDulceProject]

I wouldn't be surprised if you got blown out of the air "that's if you found it"
Didn't this supposedly happen at area 51? There we\ere some individuals that wanted to leak info and the helicopteer was crashed on the way out of area 5...

Wendle Stevens had Connor O'Ryan/Derek Hennessy talk about MALAKAI in which that is said to have happened. Rick O'Keefe UFO Hypotheses on youtube or his website if you want more on this.

The S4 series by Wendelle Stevens is the best area 51 info source I have ever seen, and possibly the best insider documentary regarding the subject of all time. I started a thread here a while back on it. S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume One Wendelle Stevens and Bob Dean (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31708-S4--Area-51--Informers-Volume-One-Wendelle-Stevens-and-Bob-Dean)


A few questions for The Dulce Project:

1.Do you have a take on the Anthony Sanchez Dulce story as outlined here (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?22933-DULCE-INTERVIEW-Anthony-Sanchez-interviews-Colonel-X&highlight=) through his interview with Colonial X?

2.What is the word on Castillo's take that there are reptillian beings in Dulce?

3. Have you ever heard of the Lacerta interview (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?18983-Lacerta-An-interview-with-a-female-reptillian&highlight=)and do you have an opinion on it?
Hello DNA
As stated by Witchy1
Cherry has covered this on a separate thread and also in her private notes '

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Everyone:

I believe the thread mentioned above is http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13742-Reptilians-at-Dulce-Conflicting-accounts -- witchy1, please correct me if not. (The link you quoted was broken.)

Mystery/Cherry, lovely to hear from you again. My warmest wishes to you, and I very much appreciate your contributions. I have contacted the moderators of the other forum where the long "Thomas Castello speaks out" thread was posted back in 2009 (and denounced by almost everyone as a hoax) and will ask that your statement is posted there and that the thread is closed. Leave that to me, and I will get it done.

I do agree with witchy1 that this discussion should be taken offline.

Paul, we should be under no illusions that people get killed for this kind of interest. That includes you. You are definitely in the crosshairs now -- even if you were not before. These guys who are watching you, and everyone you contact, are professionals who are doing their job (and they do it well).

It's not personal. It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy with good intentions, or not. Expediency is the only consideration. You may need a crash course in black ops awareness. I was lucky to have enrolled in mine back in 2006 (and I learned well, and fast). I mean that will full respect for everything you are trying to achieve. Don't get me wrong (and really don't get me wrong!), but one of the most helpful things that could happen to you right now would be something that captures your attention, makes it all real, yet leaves you 100% unharmed. That will focus your awareness and require of you that you become very smart very quickly.

We're not playing a video game here. If you proceed with this, you're inadvertently jeopardizing the welfare of anyone else you care about. If you're married or have a partner you love, make sure they are 100% supportive of what you're doing and also understand the swamp they will now be swimming in.

If NancyV is reading this -- please step in with your wisdom! (She is experienced in these areas, and is very knowledgeable. Her husband was a highly able black ops operative and will confirm every word I say. I know we have others on the forum too with that level of hands-on experience.)

None of this means giving up the project or its goals. But it does mean becoming totally aware, and very quickly too, who and what you are pitting yourself against. This is an important discussion. This is a good example, but things we often discuss on the forum are not just more YouTube entertainment. They are very real indeed.

It's true what Kerry and I wrote back in 2006 that the safest place to hide is (often) in the open -- a phrase coined by myself. But we were taken out nevertheless. Kerry was to have been killed after her over-the-line questioning of Dr Pete Peterson (at the very end of part 2, and in much of part 3) -- but Peterson himself intervened and her life was spared. Camelot was taken down instead. One reason why I'm still alive myself is that I'm smart, respectful, I know where the lines are drawn and what the "rules" are, I honor agreements (tacit and otherwise), and I make sure not to make anything personal. I understand this game deeply.

I believe I am respected by those who are reading this, because they know that I know the game quite well. I am like a respected opponent. They also know (and this is a self-referential irony) that they can use me here to moderate this situation, without their ever stepping in. No-one has told me to write this, and I work for no-one. But if you understand what I've just written, then this is one step towards understanding how the entire machine works. We have to be very smart and aware indeed. It's a total game of grandmaster chess from beginning to end.

[TheDulceProject]

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Hi, Everyone:

I believe the thread mentioned above is http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13742-Reptilians-at-Dulce-Conflicting-accounts -- witchy1, please correct me if not. (The link you quoted was broken.)

Mystery/Cherry, lovely to hear from you again. My warmest wishes to you, and I very much appreciate your contributions. I have contacted the moderators of the other forum where the long "Thomas Castello speaks out" thread was posted back in 2009 (and denounced by almost everyone as a hoax) and will ask that your statement is posted there and that the thread is closed. Leave that to me, and I will get it done.

I do agree with witchy1 that this discussion should be taken offline.

Paul, we should be under no illusions that people get killed for this kind of interest. That includes you. You are definitely in the crosshairs now -- even if you were not before. These guys who are watching you, and everyone you contact, are professionals who are doing their job (and they do it well).

It's not personal. It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy with good intentions, or not. Expediency is the only consideration. You may need a crash course in black ops awareness. I was lucky to have enrolled in mine back in 2006 (and I learned well, and fast). I mean that will full respect for everything you are trying to achieve. Don't get me wrong (and really don't get me wrong!), but one of the most helpful things that could happen to you right now would be something that captures your attention, makes it all real, yet leaves you 100% unharmed. That will focus your awareness and require of you that you become very smart very quickly.

We're not playing a video game here. If you proceed with this, you're inadvertently jeopardizing the welfare of anyone else you care about. If you're married or have a partner you love, make sure they are 100% supportive of what you're doing and also understand the swamp they will now be swimming in.

If NancyV is reading this -- please step in with your wisdom! (She is experienced in these areas, and is very knowledgeable. Her husband was a highly able black ops operative and will confirm every word I say. I know we have others on the forum too with that level of hands-on experience.)

None of this means giving up the project or its goals. But it does mean becoming totally aware, and very quickly too, who and what you are pitting yourself against. This is an important discussion. This is a good example, but things we often discuss on the forum are not just more YouTube entertainment. They are very real indeed.

It's true what Kerry and I wrote back in 2006 that the safest place to hide is (often) in the open -- a phrase coined by myself. But we were taken out nevertheless. Kerry was to have been killed after her over-the-line questioning of Dr Pete Peterson (at the very end of part 2, and in much of part 3) -- but Peterson himself intervened and her life was spared. Camelot was taken down instead. One reason why I'm still alive myself is that I'm smart, respectful, I know where the lines are drawn and what the "rules" are, I honor agreements (tacit and otherwise), and I make sure not to make anything personal. I understand this game deeply.

I believe I am respected by those who are reading this, because they know that I know the game quite well. I am like a respected opponent. They also know (and this is a self-referential irony) that they can use me here to moderate this situation, without their ever stepping in. No-one has told me to write this, and I work for no-one. But if you understand what I've just written, then this is one step towards understanding how the entire machine works. We have to be very smart and aware indeed. It's a total game of grandmaster chess from beginning to end.

Hello Bill
Thank you for posting that.It was very informative and helpful. I am aware of the various possibilities and scenarios that could play out here relating to this. I am a level headed,intelligent individual and I think constantly about the possibilities and consequences of my actions. This may sound like an idiotic statement but I would welcome something "to catch my attention " as you said as this would put confirmation to many things. I will talk more with Cherry this evening or tomorrow if she is free and see what or where we go from here . At the end of the day it's her say ! If she wants to stop we will. We have much to talk and think about!
Regards
Paul

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Bill now i'm in the mood whats the best interview about Dulce you can
remember I can put on in the background,I've heard several, John Lear
Camelot ,Coast , Veritas etc and Kerry interviewed Anthony Sanchez ,but the audio
is not that good and he was distressed from his obvious scary experiance at Dulce,
being exposed to a possible nuro agent, his face is paralysed and is why he sounds
muffled and he is scared for his life and why he rang Kerry early in the morning.
This is not a shceduled interview, but an off the cuff recording of the call by Kerry. (
good journalism ) Thats why Kerry sounds tired it 3am in the morning i think.

If you can think of one let us know please, or post it ..LOL...Steve



Hi Dulceproject good luck on your endeavers,if you
have not heard this interview before its worth a listen
and illustrates part of what Bill was saying & you R
obviously aware of ....Steve



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Just noticed Kerrys write up...


Uploaded on 4 Nov 2011


This is a groundbreaking audio interview conducted in the middle of the night after
I received an urgent phone call from Anthony Sanchez, author of the book on Dulce
and the Greys called UFO Highway. Project Camelot had been in touch with
Anthony on and off for the past year regarding his current areas of research. We
had offered to do a video interview with him but up to this point he had not
arranged for this to happen.

Tonight, he called me and left an urgent message. I had just returned from a trip to
India and was awakened in the middle of the night with jet lag. I found the
message on my phone and immediately texted him back asking if it was too late to
call him. He then phoned me back and we had the following ground breaking
conversation about his encountering what according to doctors is a nerve agent
very likely military grade causing the paralysis of his face. He apparently had
contacted this nerve agent during recent investigations into the Dulce base on the
Archuleta Mesa Jicarilla Apache Reservation in New Mexico.

After hearing just the briefest details of his story, I asked whether we could record
the call for public release and he agreed. This recording is unedited except for a
section per his request where a reference is made to a person who could be put in
danger as a result of any mention of his involvement. Other than that, this is the
entire content of our phone call.

I am in the process of finding healers who can work with Anthony to rid him of the
affects of the nerve agent. Anyone with further information on these subjects or
with healing or medical assistance who can help please go to Anthony's website and
fill in the contact form. He has stressed that the information sent via that contact
form goes directly to him and that the sender's info is kept private.

Due to the important cross-correlations with Project Camelot whistleblower
testimony the information contained in this audio interview is given the higher
priority in terms of importance.

NOTE: As mentioned on the audio, due to Anthony's facial paralysis and the phone
equipment he is using the sound quality is difficult to listen to... we apologize in
advance and hope to be able to do a video interview in the near future.

[Shade]

I think that if the box ever existed, it would have already been retrieved. That does not, however, mean that a box is not still there. A perfect opportunity for a box, filled with whatever they LIKE could be planted there right now. A perfect place and opportunity for their disinfo and myth seedings to be disseminated into the field. All mysterious and sensational. Perfect for them. If anything IS found? Then almost positively it will be because they have planted it there.

[Bill Ryan]

I think that if the box ever existed, it would have already been retrieved. That does not, however, mean that a box is not still there. A perfect opportunity for a box, filled with whatever they LIKE could be planted there right now. A perfect place and opportunity for their disinfo and myth seedings to be disseminated into the field. All mysterious and sensational. Perfect for them. If anything IS found? Then almost positively it will be because they have planted it there.

This is true. You have to think from their viewpoint.

I was again working through all the various possibilities and permutations this morning and it does seem to me that the easiest thing for them to do is to have taken the box (probably long ago) and allow Paul and his team -- or whoever else rolls up -- to spend time, energy and money drawing a publicly visible blank. They then roll out their sleepers in all the forums who say: "See? Castello never existed, and Cherry Hinkle is a hoaxer." Case dismissed.

Or as you rightly point out, there could easily be an identical replacement box full of delicious fake material. Because Castello is no longer with us (Cherry -- did you ever see the contents?), we may never know for sure what's real and what's not. Look at the history of ufology since 1947. That's always the #1 preferred state of affairs from the point of view of the self-appointed secret-protectors.

The game of grandmaster chess continues. :)

[ketikoti]

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[...]
It's true what Kerry and I wrote back in 2006 that the safest place to hide is (often) in the open -- a phrase coined by myself. But we were taken out nevertheless. Kerry was to have been killed after her over-the-line questioning of Dr Pete Peterson (at the very end of part 2, and in much of part 3) -- but Peterson himself intervened and her life was spared. Camelot was taken down instead. One reason why I'm still alive myself is that I'm smart, respectful, I know where the lines are drawn and what the "rules" are, I honor agreements (tacit and otherwise), and I make sure not to make anything personal. I understand this game deeply.

I believe I am respected by those who are reading this, because they know that I know the game quite well. I am like a respected opponent. They also know (and this is a self-referential irony) that they can use me here to moderate this situation, without their ever stepping in. No-one has told me to write this, and I work for no-one. But if you understand what I've just written, then this is one step towards understanding how the entire machine works. We have to be very smart and aware indeed. It's a total game of grandmaster chess from beginning to end.

Dear Bill,

Slightly going off-topic here, but what confirmed your thinking that TPTB abide to (self-restricting) rules? When one ascends into the hierarchy of power, the ratio of sociopaths is increasing rapidly, and I don't regard sociopaths as persons who like rules and guidelines for themselves.

I found the following article (in 2 parts) very insightfull of the psychology of the higher echelon of society and very worth a read:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-ascendence-sociopaths-us-governance
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/doug-casey-sociopathy-running-us-part-two

If there is a generational ruling cast (the guys that employed Charles for instance), I can't think of them other then sociopaths. What are your thoughts about the discrepancy of sociopaths and having them abide to "rules of engagement"?

[Ammit]

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Hi, Everyone:

I believe the thread mentioned above is http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13742-Reptilians-at-Dulce-Conflicting-accounts -- witchy1, please correct me if not. (The link you quoted was broken.)

Mystery/Cherry, lovely to hear from you again. My warmest wishes to you, and I very much appreciate your contributions. I have contacted the moderators of the other forum where the long "Thomas Castello speaks out" thread was posted back in 2009 (and denounced by almost everyone as a hoax) and will ask that your statement is posted there and that the thread is closed. Leave that to me, and I will get it done.

I do agree with witchy1 that this discussion should be taken offline.

Paul, we should be under no illusions that people get killed for this kind of interest. That includes you. You are definitely in the crosshairs now -- even if you were not before. These guys who are watching you, and everyone you contact, are professionals who are doing their job (and they do it well).

It's not personal. It doesn't matter if you're a nice guy with good intentions, or not. Expediency is the only consideration. You may need a crash course in black ops awareness. I was lucky to have enrolled in mine back in 2006 (and I learned well, and fast). I mean that will full respect for everything you are trying to achieve. Don't get me wrong (and really don't get me wrong!), but one of the most helpful things that could happen to you right now would be something that captures your attention, makes it all real, yet leaves you 100% unharmed. That will focus your awareness and require of you that you become very smart very quickly.

We're not playing a video game here. If you proceed with this, you're inadvertently jeopardizing the welfare of anyone else you care about. If you're married or have a partner you love, make sure they are 100% supportive of what you're doing and also understand the swamp they will now be swimming in.

If NancyV is reading this -- please step in with your wisdom! (She is experienced in these areas, and is very knowledgeable. Her husband was a highly able black ops operative and will confirm every word I say. I know we have others on the forum too with that level of hands-on experience.)

None of this means giving up the project or its goals. But it does mean becoming totally aware, and very quickly too, who and what you are pitting yourself against. This is an important discussion. This is a good example, but things we often discuss on the forum are not just more YouTube entertainment. They are very real indeed.

It's true what Kerry and I wrote back in 2006 that the safest place to hide is (often) in the open -- a phrase coined by myself. But we were taken out nevertheless. Kerry was to have been killed after her over-the-line questioning of Dr Pete Peterson (at the very end of part 2, and in much of part 3) -- but Peterson himself intervened and her life was spared. Camelot was taken down instead. One reason why I'm still alive myself is that I'm smart, respectful, I know where the lines are drawn and what the "rules" are, I honor agreements (tacit and otherwise), and I make sure not to make anything personal. I understand this game deeply.

I believe I am respected by those who are reading this, because they know that I know the game quite well. I am like a respected opponent. They also know (and this is a self-referential irony) that they can use me here to moderate this situation, without their ever stepping in. No-one has told me to write this, and I work for no-one. But if you understand what I've just written, then this is one step towards understanding how the entire machine works. We have to be very smart and aware indeed. It's a total game of grandmaster chess from beginning to end.

Hello Bill
Thank you for posting that.It was very informative and helpful. I am aware of the various possibilities and scenarios that could play out here relating to this. I am a level headed,intelligent individual and I think constantly about the possibilities and consequences of my actions. This may sound like an idiotic statement but I would welcome something "to catch my attention " as you said as this would put confirmation to many things. I will talk more with Cherry this evening or tomorrow if she is free and see what or where we go from here . At the end of the day it's her say ! If she wants to stop we will. We have much to talk and think about!
Regards
Paul

Having had something "catch my attention" before, I would say walk with great care.

I also think you have made a mistake by announcing your intentions. There has been a lot of truth spoken and advice given on this thread, but, I feel you will try nonetheless. Something to be admired in a person but you are now someone to keep clear of...

[SilentFeathers]

If the "box" truly exists and contains the contents as described, I personally think that going public on Facebook, here, etc., and trying to solicit funds to market a documentary about retrieving it is using EXTREMELY POOR JUDGMENT.

It sounds like a rally to fund an expedition in search of the holy grail or something like that.....

I don't mean to sound rude, but, sheesh, shouldn't the secrecy of retrieving and protecting this box and it's contents until a safe and effective disclosure can be made be the #1 priority?

Something doesn't sound right or legit to me about this "excursion" to say the least.

[Mutchie]

Witchy1 - thank you so much for your concerns and a million thanks for letting me know regarding the false idea that Tom lived to 2009 and the major mistake that he died from cancer. That is such a grave insult to this man's memory, everyone that knew Tom was the healthiest man anyone could ever hope to be. I seriously wish SOMEONE -- *ANYone* had let me know this hoax was going on - it would have prevented the continuing hoax in one brief one note. But I am only one 71 year woman doing my best to fulfill Tom's wishes.

For those that do not know, my husband was been in the hospital for 2-1/2 months this summer, most of that time Bill (my hubby) was in intensive care - three times he 'died' but thanks to good doctors, his life was restored three times. Is is better now, but since June 2012 - about I could concentrate on was Bill's medical condition. For that reason I have very little time to relax and spend time on my laptop. I'm sorry I haven't had time to spend time here on Avalon.
Thank you Witchy1 for your help - without your note me, I never would a bit about it.
Sincere thank - my dear friend! right now I am exhausted, it is almost 2:30 in the morning & I need to try to sleep a little. I'll just give Bill his medication and get him to bed. Good night my friends.
Cherry

I am praying for your husband Cherry i sincerely hope his health continues to get better but how lucky he is having a dedicated and loving wife such as yourself Take good care your new friend Mutchie....;)

[steveofengland]

With the cat out of the proverbial bag, maybe the project has no option but to beat the drum aloud and gather many souls to join the expedition, holy grail it may just be.
As has been said, many teams (perhaps by the coach load) to fan out in many directions and locations, hell, make a festival out of it? Really confuse them lol!

[Mystery]

Good afternoon Bill and other friends - I want to thank you for posting your sincere advise to Paul, to letting him know this is not just a video game and when the game is over, nobody gets hurt - this is real and the danger is far more than anyone can imagine, unless they have 'been there' from their own experience. I sent a strong advised note to Paul and warn him to back off before someone in their family gets hurt, the way I was - I "suggested" he think twice before he goes any further. I do not one lese to get hurt, and Bill I knew you would be the best man to tell him the way it was. Thank you for that!

I will have no problem if Paul chooses to back off, nor I will have a problem if he chooses to continue - the important thing is I want everyone involved to know that if any one continues to get in Dulce Base, the quest for the box on the mountain, or anything involved with the dark world - I want them all to know it is dangerous VERY dangerous and if the get hurt - it their own doing! I can't stress it strong enough that when you play with fire, sooner or later you are going to get burned, and it is NOT fun.

I am not playing games - the danger is strong, and it is no fun when you fear to leave your home to go to the post office or the grocery store you fear an attack. It's not fun when you live like a hermit, and your heart pounds everytime someone knocks on your door, but know that sooner or later they will visit your home again. NO, it is not an adventure, although it could be called that if you've never been kidnapped and forced against your will to a dark underground facility.

Since the end of 1979 I have lived in fear they will cause more trouble, inflict more pain and fear. I have dedicated my life to solve mysteries, to uncover the dirty secrets under the small town in New Mexico. Somebody has to do it, and Tom Castello trusted me to carry on his work. I am not asking anyone to risk their life for the cause and certainly not for me. I have made peace with my own fear, and I'll complete my dedicated chore - I'll publish the book everyone wants to know about it. I am not doing to get money, and I want everyone know that, I am spending my own money, and I have never asked for one red penny. The funds that Paul are trying to raise to document every step of the "adventure" is his project, and I am not part of it. For nearly 55 years I spent my own money, and the several thousands if dollars I already spent to try to get this book to the world comes from my own pocket.
I am advising Paul to think twice before he continues - he needs to talk to his family before he risks his life. It is not just the Black Op world he has to worry about, it can be just a plane wreck, he can fall of this rugged mountain - or get rattlesnake bitten - is he ready for any of those possibility? I can not be responsible if someone gets hurt - what I do is my own business, but what happens to someone else and they blame it from something I said - that is a different thing.
My husband's long illness in the hospital cost a million dollars - I can't affort to pay for a hospital bill if someone gets hurt on their "adventure."
I think it is best everyone forgets the mountain - I am too old to climb a mountain any more, and I can't risk getting hurt myself, My husband, Bill, needs me. I will advise everyone to forget it.
I thank you Bill Ryan for your kind consideration, your help, your encouragement - but you are correct - it is dangerous and I don't want anybody else to get hurt.
My best blessings to member "Witchy1" and the every strong Bill Ryan for their excellent work.
Cherry - Mystery

[TheDulceProject]

Good afternoon Bill and other friends - I want to thank you for posting your sincere advise to Paul, to letting him know this is not just a video game and when the game is over, nobody gets hurt - this is real and the danger is far more than anyone can imagine, unless they have 'been there' from their own experience. I sent a strong advised note to Paul and warn him to back off before someone in their family gets hurt, the way I was - I "suggested" he think twice before he goes any further. I do not one lese to get hurt, and Bill I knew you would be the best man to tell him the way it was. Thank you for that!

I will have no problem if Paul chooses to back off, nor I will have a problem if he chooses to continue - the important thing is I want everyone involved to know that if any one continues to get in Dulce Base, the quest for the box on the mountain, or anything involved with the dark world - I want them all to know it is dangerous VERY dangerous and if the get hurt - it their own doing! I can't stress it strong enough that when you play with fire, sooner or later you are going to get burned, and it is NOT fun.

I am not playing games - the danger is strong, and it is no fun when you fear to leave your home to go to the post office or the grocery store you fear an attack. It's not fun when you live like a hermit, and your heart pounds everytime someone knocks on your door, but know that sooner or later they will visit your home again. NO, it is not an adventure, although it could be called that if you've never been kidnapped and forced against your will to a dark underground facility.

Since the end of 1979 I have lived in fear they will cause more trouble, inflict more pain and fear. I have dedicated my life to solve mysteries, to uncover the dirty secrets under the small town in New Mexico. Somebody has to do it, and Tom Castello trusted me to carry on his work. I am not asking anyone to risk their life for the cause and certainly not for me. I have made peace with my own fear, and I'll complete my dedicated chore - I'll publish the book everyone wants to know about it. I am not doing to get money, and I want everyone know that, I am spending my own money, and I have never asked for one red penny. The funds that Paul are trying to raise to document every step of the "adventure" is his project, and I am not part of it. For nearly 55 years I spent my own money, and the several thousands if dollars I already spent to try to get this book to the world comes from my own pocket.
I am advising Paul to think twice before he continues - he needs to talk to his family before he risks his life. It is not just the Black Op world he has to worry about, it can be just a plane wreck, he can fall of this rugged mountain - or get rattlesnake bitten - is he ready for any of those possibility? I can not be responsible if someone gets hurt - what I do is my own business, but what happens to someone else and they blame it from something I said - that is a different thing.
My husband's long illness in the hospital cost a million dollars - I can't affort to pay for a hospital bill if someone gets hurt on their "adventure."
I think it is best everyone forgets the mountain - I am too old to climb a mountain any more, and I can't risk getting hurt myself, My husband, Bill, needs me. I will advise everyone to forget it.
I thank you Bill Ryan for your kind consideration, your help, your encouragement - but you are correct - it is dangerous and I don't want anybody else to get hurt.
My best blessings to member "Witchy1" and the every strong Bill Ryan for their excellent work.
Cherry - Mystery

Hello Cherry
I got your message and have replied! I respect fully what you have said. Also thank you all here on Project Avalon for your opinions and advice. I look forward to talking and contributing more to the forums in the future.

Kind Regards

[Mutchie]

This is a HOT potato but i can see and understand WHY Paul seems so determined to find that box ....imagine a gun which can not only disintegrate any object it can also cause any object to levitate and this way back in the late 1970's!!! Even now i would imagine it would be worth millions on the black market - Also it sounds to me like Cherry may have been threatened in some way or form just from some of the things she says about living in fear ....:(

[TheDulceProject]

This is a HOT potato but i can see and understand WHY Paul seems so determined to find that box ....imagine a gun which can not only disintegrate any object it can also cause any object to levitate and this way back in the late 1970's!!! Even now i would imagine it would be worth millions on the black market - Also it sounds to me like Cherry may have been threatened in some way or form just from some of the things she says about living in fear ....:(

There are various reasons I want to locate the box, one if them is that Cherry made a promise to Tom to release this information for him(I want Cherry to see this completed for various reasons I won't go into here ) other reasons are the exact same reasons Tom wants the information released!
I am NOT in it for money or fame in any way only to seek, retrieve, investigate and release all the information that is in that box through as many public channels as possible! As what to do with the box and contents afterwards quite possibly back where it has been all these years(buried underground )who knows!? I know MANY places where it would be VERY safe as it has been!
Cherry has carried this weight for to long with so many negative things happening in her life because if it and in my opinion it's time for that to change and I am the person that's thought long and hard about it and stepped up to the mark to change that!

[Mystery]

Thank you Paul - you are truly a kind man! You and have I discussed the reasons you need funding to complete the project of the recording, filming for purposes of documentation and I have no problem with that - not at all! I KNOW you are not wanting to "get rich" in this project, we have discussed that too, and I know the type person you. Also - you and I have discussed the possibility that you might make the long trip, find the exact location and bring out the box in minutes! But there is a stronger chance you get there and search for hours and never find the box. Other people have searched and never found it.

Paul - I am stating this in a public forum that I know you are doing all of this - not to be rich, or to get famous - but because you are a outstanding generous human being, and you are doing it all to help me, and if it benefits other people too, so much the better, but that is not your intensions. You told me from the beginning you plan strictly to bring the box to me - unopened - and that is all. I mentioned that you should consider filming it, and then we discussed it.

I want everyone reading this to know that Paul is not greedy, out looking for a pile of money - he is a generous gentleman, and I do not want him to be hurt. He has been a total helpful man and a complete beacon of kindness...

I have tried to discourage him, and for his sake, I hope he is able to get the equipment he needs, and the people willing to help him complete this project. I said everyone should forget it - but after repeated conversations all day, I have decided that if he still wants to do this - I'll do my best to help. But if ANYTHING happens..... well - I'll end it.

There are things I know that will help him keep him in the right direction - tell him certain things to look for - a secret way to help find the exact location. I *know* that secret - and so far - none of the other people I have tried to convince them this easy trick but they refused to try it. I have experienced the exact secret and I KNOW it works. So this time - I won't tell anyone unless they will agree to go along with my secret. It will be their loss, because there is possibly a very valuable "side attraction" if they will benefit the right person. ^_^
Always -
Mystery - Cherry





Mod edit: Cherry, this is Bill: I've edited out one or two bits of potentially sensitive information in your post above. I felt you may have been going into a little too much detail, fascinating though it may have been for the readers here (and elsewhere!). I have the original 100% saved, and can restore it all very easily if you wish. Please let me know by PM. Happy to help in any way. Please excuse me if I am being over-cautious. :)

[Cidersomerset]

There are various reasons I want to locate the box, one if them is that Cherry made a promise to Tom to release this information for him(I want Cherry to see this completed for various reasons I won't go into here ) other reasons are the exact same reasons Tom wants the information released!
I am NOT in it for money or fame in any way only to seek, retrieve, investigate and release all the information that is in that box through as many public channels as possible! As what to do with the box and contents afterwards quite possibly back where it has been all these years(buried underground )who knows!? I know MANY places where it would be VERY safe as it has been!
Cherry has carried this weight for to long with so many negative things happening in her life because if it and in my opinion it's time for that to change and I am the person that's thought long and hard about it and stepped up to the mark to change that!



I can understand the drive & passion to set you off on this adventure , and you can listen to our genuine fears & warnings but at the end of the day
where would we be without the adventurers who know the danger but still defy the odds, so I know we sound like 'sour old web chair synics'
and some of us are !.LOL... Cherry wanted you to test the waters of opinion, you dived in, and are swimming in the shallows, before you
enter the deep end, listen to Bills advice and you may avoid the 'sharks'......


But we all love an adventure !!

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Just to cheer you up a bit after some of our justifiable warnings ...LOL..Steve

[DNA]

I remember when Bill Hicks died of cancer, it was always my suspicion that his cancer was a form of assasination, that it was intentionally placed by the PTB. When I took the time to share this suspicion to a close friend he asked how that would be possible. My answer was, "they probably stuck a tube under his door, filled the room with a gaseous tranquilizer and then did what they do to any lab mouse they wish to study cancer on, and injected him with it.

I was amazed to hear Connor O'Ryan explain how this is exactly how a lot of assasinations are carried out in the Wendelle Stevens S4 videos.

It is my guess that anyone who had any knowledge of a box with potentially mind blowing proof that Dulce does in fact exist along with extra terrestrials would be paid a visit, and that visit would consist of a rather in depth hypnotic session where the where abouts of said box would be discovered immediatly by those administering this hypnotic session.

I would bet the farm, if there was a box it is no longer there.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B8IvKx0c19w#pid=36&id=I1_1358346583500&parent=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com&rpctoken=859208069&_methods=setNotificationWidgetHeight%2CsetNotifica tionText%2ChideNotificationWidget%2CopenSharebox%2 ConError%2C_ready%2C_close%2C_open%2C_resizeMe%2C_ renderstart&id=I1_1358346583500&parent=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com

[Mutchie]

Hi everyone i just wanted to say that when i mentioned the gun would be worth MILLIONS on the black market i didna mean that i thought Paul would try to sell it.....I just rationalised that people would be WILLING to KILL FOR IT !!! :(

[TheDulceProject]

Hi everyone i just wanted to say that when i mentioned the gun would be worth MILLIONS on the black market i didna mean that i thought Paul would try to sell it.....I just rationalised that people would be WILLING to KILL FOR IT !!! :(

I understood what you meant by the statement and I am sure other readers did also didn't take it in that context at all! I just felt i had to state a few things on my previous post.
Not to worry :)

[TheDulceProject]

Thank you Paul - you are truly a kind man! You and have I discussed the reasons you need funding to complete the project of the recording, filming for purposes of documentation and I have no problem with that - not at all! I KNOW you are not wanting to "get rich" in this project, we have discussed that too, and I know the type person you. Also - you and I have discussed the possibility that you might make the long trip, find the exact location and bring out the box in minutes! But there is a stronger chance you get there and search for hours and never find the box. Other people have searched and never found it.

Paul - I am stating this in a public forum that I know you are doing all of this - not to be rich, or to get famous - but because you are a outstanding generous human being, and you are doing it all to help me, and if it benefits other people too, so much the better, but that is not your intensions. You told me from the beginning you plan strictly to bring the box to me - unopened - and that is all. I mentioned that you should consider filming it, and then we discussed it.

I want everyone reading this to know that Paul is not greedy, out looking for a pile of money - he is a generous gentleman, and I do not want him to be hurt. He has been a total helpful man and a complete beacon of kindness...

I have tried to discourage him, and for his sake, I hope he is able to get the equipment he needs, and the people willing to help him complete this project. I said everyone should forget it - but after repeated conversations all day, I have decided that if he still wants to do this - I'll do my best to help. But if ANYTHING happens..... well - I'll end it.

There are things I know that will help him keep him in the right direction - tell him certain things to look for - a secret way to help find the exact location. I *know* that secret - and so far - none of the other people I have tried to convince them this easy trick but they refused to try it. I have experienced the exact secret and I KNOW it works. So this time - I won't tell anyone unless they will agree to go along with my secret. It will be their loss, because there is possibly a very valuable "side attraction" if they will benefit the right person. ^_^
Always -
Mystery - Cherry





Mod edit: Cherry, this is Bill: I've edited out one or two bits of potentially sensitive information in your post above. I felt you may have been going into a little too much detail, fascinating though it may have been for the readers here (and elsewhere!). I have the original 100% saved, and can restore it all very easily if you wish. Please let me know by PM. Happy to help in any way. Please excuse me if I am being over-cautious. :)

Thank you again Cherry for your kind words and thank you also Bill for the edit although I completely missed the original post!

[HaveBlue]

Consider that the baddies would likely plant boxes in the area of interest that contain plenty of the toxin that Anthony Sanchez was/is suffering from.

I have discussed this with him on his UFO Highway forum and I believe both that it happened and that it is no picnic.

This expedition seems foolhardy when you consider just what you are playing with.
Not sure how old you are Paul but you are either young and naieve or older and wiser than say 22 and have balls of steel!

Besides there's no way the PTB would allow and alien ray gun to be unaccounted for and buried out in the desert for 20 odd years! They would have gotten it back within days of the original incident if it was/is indeed true.

Great story for a movie, probably a B grade but still I'd watch it!

[TheDulceProject]

Consider that the baddies would likely plant boxes in the area of interest that contain plenty of the toxin that Anthony Sanchez was/is suffering from.

I have discussed this with him on his UFO Highway forum and I believe both that it happened and that it is no picnic.

This expedition seems foolhardy when you consider just what you are playing with.
Not sure how old you are Paul but you are either young and naieve or older and wiser than say 22 and have balls of steel!

Besides there's no way the PTB would allow and alien ray gun to be unaccounted for and buried out in the desert for 20 odd years! They would have gotten it back within days of the original incident if it was/is indeed true.

Great story for a movie, probably a B grade but still I'd watch it!

Thank you for the imput HaveBlue! I have thought about all the possibilities and risks involved and have taken them into account fully! The box could or could not be there also! As with many things in life they are not without risk or even risk taking and this project is no exception to that! I am also not a silly naive teenager more so the later of your comment! 41 years of age to be exact!

On another note if anyone would like to help the project by means of giving a donation you can send me a PM and I will send you the link!Or you can also state your interest on doing so in this thread and I will PM you the details! As I have stated the project needs help with funding!
Thank you

[Sirius White]

There is no way they haven't found it. Have the best RVers track it. And you got it.

Also, this idea was failed from the very beginning. Why? Posting it online and asking for support. At that point all is known.

When Bill mentions grandmaster chess, yes indeed. I was once naive and wondered "why don't the good guys just release all information and present it openly?" Yea right. Even the good guys gotta work in shadows too. Progress in awakening of people happening all over from those who have awoken to the various monstrous fractal tangents of the truth. Thank god for those who have within certain boundaries, decided to help humanity. The boundaries will grow as the conditions grow ripe for further revelations of truth- but until that moment this is a very careful tango for all involved!

[TheDulceProject]

There is no way they haven't found it. Have the best RVers track it. And you got it.

It is the projects aim to find that out once and for all!Is it there or is it not..
But the key issue at this moment in time is getting the support and funding for the project or there will be no project!I have been given some great help and advice privately from some members on Avalon which i am currently looking into.

This thread has had over 6000 hits so far so people are interested! If each one of them gave the minimum donation of just 5 dollars(not a lot of money IMO) this project would be up running and completed in weeks!

If anyone would like to donate you can message me here on the main thread or privately and i will send you the donation link.

Best Regards

[AwakeInADream]

I remember when Bill Hicks died of cancer, it was always my suspicion that his cancer was a form of assasination, that it was intentionally placed by the PTB. When I took the time to share this suspicion to a close friend he asked how that would be possible. My answer was, "they probably stuck a tube under his door, filled the room with a gaseous tranquilizer and then did what they do to any lab mouse they wish to study cancer on, and injected him with it.

I've had the same thoughts, that TPTB have weaponized cancer.

I think that they give people cancer, and only offer them the cure if they choose to cooperate with their agenda.

It's most obvious in the world of celebrity. I noticed that after Kylie Minogue had recovered from cancer, she suddenly starts to identify her self with Lucifer, being that she released an album called 'Aphrodite'. To the Mystery Schools Aphrodite = Venus = Lucifer. Maybe I'm being paranoid here, but there really is no greater incentive to 'toe the line', than to be given a second chance to live. Only the very brave would choose death for they're principles (when given this choice).

[TheDulceProject]

I just wanted to say thank you again for everyones input,advice and also support.The project has started to receive donations via the donations link!Also i have had a few private messages here on the Project Avalon forum from members asking for the link so the they can also show and give their support to the project by way of a donation.I wont name you here on this thread but if you wish you can reply to this post and state who you are!!!
Again if anyone would like to help the project by way of a donation please do message me and i will send you the donations link or leave a post showing your interest and i will message you..
I wont post the link on the thread unless i get the ok from Bill or another moderator.
So a big THANK YOU from The Dulce Project for your help so far!!

[TheDulceProject]

Hello again all!
Here is a link to The Dulce Project Facebook community page. Please feel free to come join the community and share the link.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Dulce-Project/154695838012372

[alienready]

This is a great Project and look forward for progress and reveilment of the box and can only wish the best and their safety for all involved.

[TheDulceProject]

This is a great Project and look forward for progress and reveilment of the box and can only wish the best and their safety for all involved.
Thank you! Please feel free to share links on the project and funding links and also come join the Facebook community page.

[alienready]

Sounds like you could be right about all that Bill and no doubt that plus. It surely will be an adventure and as this man said= Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has as its ultimate goal the betterment of humanity.” - NIKOLA TESLA.
I can only wish this is our case and it all works out for the good of us all.

[Mystery]

Sounds like you could be right about all that Bill and no doubt that plus. It surely will be an adventure and as this man said= Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has as its ultimate goal the betterment of humanity.” - NIKOLA TESLA.
I can only wish this is our case and it all works out for the good of us all.

Hello alienready - and a warm welcome to this great site! I hope all the fantastic folks that helped and encouraged me will welcome this new member - "alienready" is a personal friend of mine and I suspect he will feel right at home!
Blessings to you my friend,
Mystery/Cherry

[TheDulceProject]

Yet more people joining us at The Dulce Project community on facebook!Also The project has started to receive donations via the donations link!Come and join the community to show and give support to the project.
The community page link is
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Dulce-Project/154695838012372

This posted by Cherry Hinkle this morning...

Cherry Hinkle
Please be aware this Project will result in retrieving Tom Castello's box up on a mountain in Arizona - Paul Muir (and a group of other concerned people ) are trying to raise funds so he can fully document the entire adventure and be able to have all the proof we need. Cross your fingers for us - The powers that be are not happy about this adventure.


Thanks for posting that Cherry!!
Please donate people! All the like clicks on the donations page and support are appreciated but we need much more than that please donate what you can towards this important project.

Thank you
The Dulce Project

So a big THANK YOU from The Dulce Project for your help so far!!

[alienready]

Thanks a great idea Bill.

[alienready]

Thanks Cherry, love and kisses

[alienready]

Thank you Paul - you are truly a kind man! You and have I discussed the reasons you need funding to complete the project of the recording, filming for purposes of documentation and I have no problem with that - not at all! I KNOW you are not wanting to "get rich" in this project, we have discussed that too, and I know the type person you. Also - you and I have discussed the possibility that you might make the long trip, find the exact location and bring out the box in minutes! But there is a stronger chance you get there and search for hours and never find the box. Other people have searched and never found it.

Paul - I am stating this in a public forum that I know you are doing all of this - not to be rich, or to get famous - but because you are a outstanding generous human being, and you are doing it all to help me, and if it benefits other people too, so much the better, but that is not your intensions. You told me from the beginning you plan strictly to bring the box to me - unopened - and that is all. I mentioned that you should consider filming it, and then we discussed it.

I want everyone reading this to know that Paul is not greedy, out looking for a pile of money - he is a generous gentleman, and I do not want him to be hurt. He has been a total helpful man and a complete beacon of kindness...

I have tried to discourage him, and for his sake, I hope he is able to get the equipment he needs, and the people willing to help him complete this project. I said everyone should forget it - but after repeated conversations all day, I have decided that if he still wants to do this - I'll do my best to help. But if ANYTHING happens..... well - I'll end it.

There are things I know that will help him keep him in the right direction - tell him certain things to look for - a secret way to help find the exact location. I *know* that secret - and so far - none of the other people I have tried to convince them this easy trick but they refused to try it. I have experienced the exact secret and I KNOW it works. So this time - I won't tell anyone unless they will agree to go along with my secret. It will be their loss, because there is possibly a very valuable "side attraction" if they will benefit the right person. ^_^
Always -
Mystery - Cherry





Mod edit: Cherry, this is Bill: I've edited out one or two bits of potentially sensitive information in your post above. I felt you may have been going into a little too much detail, fascinating though it may have been for the readers here (and elsewhere!). I have the original 100% saved, and can restore it all very easily if you wish. Please let me know by PM. Happy to help in any way. Please excuse me if I am being over-cautious. :)

Thank you again Cherry for your kind words and thank you also Bill for the edit although I completely missed the original post!

I must of missed something also. Still learn how to get around here.

[eni-al]

Be better to make it a double trip and try locate possible entrances, evidence of underground facilities not on a map etc. Locating a box that may never have existed, would need a lot time more than people. If you get black cars following you, you know you're onto something when in otherwise empty land.

[TheDulceProject]

Be better to make it a double trip and try locate possible entrances, evidence of underground facilities not on a map etc. Locating a box that may never have existed, would need a lot time more than people. If you get black cars following you, you know you're onto something when in otherwise empty land.
There are known apparent entrances to Dulce! You can find the details posted on The Dulce Project community page on Facebook however I wouldn't recommend anyone to try enter if they are in fact there!

[alienready]

Yes it will be very hard to bring a big crew and costly the terrian is very hard and hot or cold depending on season.
Hey Paul,

If this woman, who supposedly knows the location of the box, has told you about it, very probably other persons already know about it by now.

Only the fact that going public, saying that the box is buried near the top of a mountain in Arizona, already give the agencies a place to look and, with their tech, I bet they could find it without many difficulties.

Anyway, I think it´s very risky to ask people for donations, while there´s the risk of spending the donated money just to go there and find nothing.

If you indeed know the location, you could go there right now, with a five or six men team, equipped only with a couple of regular affordable digital cameras and maybe a cheap metal detector. You could rent this equipment instead of buying it.

So, in my opinion, if the box is really there, it will speak for itself. I doesn´t matter if you film it with an iphone camera; it will speak for itself, that´s for sure.

There´s really no need to spend money on expensive equipment if you can´t be sure that the box is really there, specially considering that your eventual investors will get really angry if they invest relatively large sums of money just for you to go there and find nothing.

Personally, if I knew the location of such important object, I would have gone there almost immediately. Why wait? Such situations require immediate action.

Just my two cents, anyway.

Raf.

PS: Such kind of retrieval operations should be performed FAST. You have to calculate the shortest rout, zero in the location asap, retrieve the item, extract as fast as you can and move to a safe location as fast as possible. There´s no space for TV crew with heavy and clumsy filming equipment.

[eni-al]

Be better to make it a double trip and try locate possible entrances, evidence of underground facilities not on a map etc. Locating a box that may never have existed, would need a lot time more than people. If you get black cars following you, you know you're onto something when in otherwise empty land.
There are known apparent entrances to Dulce! You can find the details posted on The Dulce Project community page on Facebook however I wouldn't recommend anyone to try enter if they are in fact there!

Saw the list, was also in a thread some time ago, not sure when it dates back to.

1. Dulce Lake – East south, statue of the Virgin in blue robes holding flowers, inside a small stone grotto. Use a Greek cross for a key (inverted) To activate the voice security, use a male voice, (not loud) say “Ave, Ave, Ave.” The three foot statue moves forward, look for the small opening with a mounted ladder inside.
2. Highway 1 south to intersect, turn east, follow dirt road approximately six miles south. Turn west toward mountain on a small trail (part of a dry wash) look for a link chain fence. Cross at the posed sign, up beside shrubs and trees is a small shed. Inside a wall calendar hides the controls for the elevator.
3. Go to the basement in the medical facility, look for the small door to the sub-basement that holds the narrow shaft to the first level to Dulce Base.
4. Look for the “coal mine,” several signs for no trespassing. The “mine” looks real but it’s a façade. It is about three miles east of the town limits, turn south on a small dirt road towards a mesa, “mine” in view.
5. Cordova Canyon. South highway 17.5 miles at the “Y” (south/east) approximately four and a half miles near a statue of a saint, use a Greek cross (rosary size) Use male voice “Ave, Ave, Ave.” Statues moves forward.

A couple of those are not too believable, never existed or no longer exist whichever the case, no grotto with a statue is near there, neither are are any coal mines that close, or are really hidden. They are very rough places, not even sure what is meant by Highway 1. They'd be worth checking out anyway to prove or disprove existence, but its very rough locations.
There is the possible mentioned entrance of Brooks lake, Wyoming.

As much as looking for a box would be very direct, finding protected entrances or areas not marked on a map would be pretty valuable. I'd really love to check out these places, Dulce and area in general, though sceptical about a base, but the whole thing deserves some investigation.
It'd be good to find people local to areas of search, the box and entrances, could have good info on anything around.

[alienready]

This is all true. I am still learning how to work these posts and threads. Anyway the area is hard and full of hazards for one. I have done mining in that terrian and 4x4 ing in the area of where the box is supposed to be. For a big crew you will need permits from the BLM and the State, maybe the film commision. medics and first aid, security, and if someone has a claim on the land you cant just go and dig holes. Rangers will be around and the supplies and equipment needed is costly. Its been 30 years and the terrain is differant so pin pointing the X marks the spot will be hard also. Have you seen the movie Holes? I hear the box is made of plastic so a metal detector is out. So how many guys does it take to dig a hole? How many holes can you dig? Whos going to be watching you dig the holes? Should you use sonar equipment? So you see that there is a few bugs. Even if the person knows the right place to dig you should get in and out fast, a big production is big trouble. Government and MIB and all the others will be for sure watching on a big production. The big problem I see is who do you give the data and device too? Beside the media, youtube, and all the rest of the world to see. Thats if you can retrieve the box and get in and out stealthly.

[Mystery]

Cherry Hinkle.

[TheDulceProject]

Cherry with all due respect I have explained privately why what was done and said and the reasons behind it! please do not drag my name through the mud and make me out to be something i am not! all you need to state is that you are no longer a part of the project with me!!also i let you know that all pages have now been disabled and cannot be seen! I also stated it is impossible to erase all links I have posted on numerous sites as well as ones others have posted and shared ! I assured you all links will be dead links!you also stated I haven't refunded the money donated ! How would you know that!? Yet another un called for and untrue statement !!The $30 that was donated had been refunded through my account !!this is such an unfortunate end to something that could have been so fantastic ! Bill if you read this could you please remove this thread! I will also message you privately!! Thank you also who showed their support to the project while it was running ! It meant a lot !! Thank you

[alienready]

The Dulce Project has been set up to Document, Search and Retrieve Thomas Edwin Castello Dulce Base’s Evidence!

I am a UFO/paranormal researcher investigator and have been for the best part of 20 years. I am no "big player" by any means, so to speak, in the world of ufology, etc. My research has been mostly private and keeping the confidentiality of many of the ...witnesses and cases I have been involved in.
If you are friends with Cherry Hinkle on Facebook or have heard of her, you will know all about the Dulce Base, the genetic facility, the Dulce Papers and Thomas Edwin Castello.
You also know that Cherry was the ONLY person with Thomas when he buried the box he had with all the original evidence taken from Dulce by him!
This box remains in the same location, near the top of a mountain in Arizona – the sealed oxygen free box buried all those years ago awaits our retrieval!!
The box contents as I am sure most will know are....
27 original 8 x 10 photographs (With original negatives!!) of aliens, creatures, cages and vats etc
One silent videotape and the original microfilm which shows computer banks, the vats, various shots of the level known as nightmare hall, two shots of the greys, and a shot of the terminal displaying a sign saying "To Los Alamos" and also 30 seconds of the underground shuttle train arrive!
Also seen are 25 pages of chemical formulas, schematics of alien equipment and also diagrams (with notations!!) Also Schematics for the Flash Gun
Also found in the box are the original pages of a treaty with Governor Ronald Reagan’s signatures plus seven other political signatures plus four alien signatures.
Plus Toms working flash gun is inside the sealed box. (Which is capable of levitation of objects any size, stun, causing a temporary state of death, complete vaporization of any object without leaving any trace!)
After various discussions with Cherry she has agreed to work with me, and my working team, in the retrieval of this box!

We have agreed to film/document every aspect of this project from research and history on Dulce, Thomas and the subsequent recovery of the box and investigation of all its contents which will then be released in the future for all to see.

However this project needs help with funding.You can find out more about this project via Cherry Hinkle,s Facebook page or the new Facebook community page "The Dulce Project" this is currently just being set up and we hope to have a website up and running hopefully in the near future!
There is currently a link set up for people who would like to donate to help this project but I won't post here on the forums until one of the admins can give me the ok to do that !
However you can find the link at the Facebook community page!

Regards
Paul
The Dulce Project

I am also out of this project along with Cherry Hinkle, we will have to find another way to proceed the quest for the Box. Sorry Paul Im out too. I live 30 minates from the location of the data and BOX and will work out another way with Cherry to retrieve the Box. You cant do things the way you were doing them to ask for money and demand for it and as I can tell you dont have a plan to retrieve it anyway. If a movie or documentary is to be made then all details of the project needed to be reveiled to, so the public can see were the donation you recieve go and in detail dollar for dollar cost for the project step by step. Also the comment to me about bringing protection is not aloud was not taken well with me. This is the (WILD WILD WEST) Paul, Arizona People all have guns and wear them in to Walmarts and 7-11s and many other place freely. I am one of them. With snakes and mountian lions and other animals around in the mountians or atv ing and 4x4ing its a must to carry a fire arm with you. After all you never know when you may find Bigfoot, or MIB for that matter, lol

[TheDulceProject]

Sorry Stephen but you where never IN my project ! You can make all the presumptions you want but as it stands you know nothing of my plans, who I spoke to and what I had arranged ! I will not get drawn into a slanging match with anyone here! So I will say no more!
This thread will be removed in a short time I hope!

[alienready]

Sorry Paul, I may not be in your project, but I am in the project nevertheless, Cherry and I are good friends and without Cherry well their is no project for you. You might as well close this group without Cherry you cant do anything. She is out of your project and so am I so with that said you have nothing. Please close this group and stop asking for $$$.........and making problems.
Sorry Stephen but you where never IN my project ! You can make all the presumptions you want but as it stands you know nothing of my plans, who I spoke to and what I had arranged ! I will not get drawn into a slanging match with anyone here! So I will say no more!
This thread will be removed in a short time I hope!