Sandy Hook Hero, Harassed By Conspiracy Theorists

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/newtown_truthers_where_conspiracy_theories_come_from/

Gene Rosen, Sandy Hook Hero, Harassed By Conspiracy Theorists Who Claim He's An Actor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory_n_2481912.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Newtown truthers: Where conspiracy theories come from
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/newtown_truthers_where_conspiracy_theories_come_from/

I wonder if the whole point of making it easy to spot actors is to demonize "conspiracy theorists" and websites.

Look at this quote from one of the articles above:


“There must be some way to morally shame these people,"

This may be the beginning of the shutting down of websites that point out problems with "official" stories.

[peace]

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/newtown_truthers_where_conspiracy_theories_come_from/

Gene Rosen, Sandy Hook Hero, Harassed By Conspiracy Theorists Who Claim He's An Actor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory_n_2481912.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Newtown truthers: Where conspiracy theories come from
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/newtown_truthers_where_conspiracy_theories_come_from/

I wonder if the whole point of making it easy to spot actors is to demonize "conspiracy theorists" and websites.

Look at this quote from one of the articles above:


“There must be some way to morally shame these people,"

This may be the beginning of the shutting down of websites that point out problems with "official" stories.

conspiracy theorists are NOT, NOT, NOT the victims here.

:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I never said they were. I just think the official story does not add up. Especially the lone gunman part. Im not sure about the actor thing.
Its also pretty sick that the guy who made the sandy hook hoax website is selling bumper stickers for $5.00 saying 'sandy hook conspiracy".

[Earth Angel]

Personally I find the fact that they keep referring to him as a Hero disturbing......what did he do, besides bring some kids in to his house, which is actually kind of disturbing......and such a crock of **** , since they would have walked passed all the police and EMS at the Fire station to get to the hero's house.... plus they sat on his lawn afraid to knock on his door?? but not afraid to go in to his house with a stranger??? and the adult that was with them just walked off and left them with him.......its insulting they think we are so easily lead.

[peace]

holy ****. i'm done.

[Mark]

conspiracy theorists are NOT, NOT, NOT the victims here.

:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:

No. They are not, if you are considering the Newtown Tragedy as the prima faci exemplar of victimization in this instance.

But the following video should leave no doubt in anyone's mind who peruses forums of this type that among the many thousands of faceless and nameless visitors that browse these forums are those that report to CNN, MSNBC and other streams of the MSM on the discussion topics and opinions expressed here. Millions are engaged in conspiratorial research these days. The MSM and its controllers - not to mention the alphabet agencies - are now apprised of this reality and quite probably devote appropriate resources to trolling these sites and recording and categorizing individuals engaged herein.

It is obviously important to them that the accepted story is not disputed. Not seriously, or by anyone with mainstream credibility. It is apparent that they must devote every iota of their considerable influence to destroying anyone who attempts to dislodge the "official story" especially if those individuals are getting a lot of attention, like the Professor currently being attacked has been.

I'd be willing to bet that the internet site that A. Cooper absolutely refuses to name in this video could in fact be PA or another site very much like it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=984ZcFgxM3k

While I'm not interested in these types of conspiracy discussions in their particulars, I recognize the freedom of people across the world to access this information and decide for themselves what is true or not. It looks like those who stray from the mainstream, as usual, are on their own. But even more disturbing, they are also subject to public msm attack and attempts to destroy their livelihoods.

And that, of course, is also nothing new.

[Earth Angel]

Anderson Cooper makes me sick.....if they really didn't want to offend the families as he said by covering this hoax theory that is going around, he wouldn't have spent nearly 10 minutes doing just that..... but seems he felt we didn't want to highlight the fact that many are questioning the official story but the opportunity to bring this guy down was just too good to miss...he is not a conspiracy NUTTER, he is a professor, people might actually respect and believe him so he has to be taken down!!! lets get him fired while we are at it

[WhiteFeather]

How Ironic, I just posted this on The Here and Now Thread.

www.jayweidner.com

"Whatever ideas are the most suppressed
are most likely to be the closest to the truth."

- Weidner's First Law of the Universe

"If a picture is worth a thousand words
then a symbol is worth a thousand pictures."

- Weidner's Second Law of the Universe

"The only people who call conspiracies
' theories' are the conspirators."

- Weidner's Third Law of the Universe

After reviewing the wealth info thats out there now,,,,,Im totally convinced this was a Staged Event. The prime motto is gun control and controlling the masses. I say no more. It wont work either,,,, if i may add. The program failed terribly.

Paula, WCBD posted this video on the Ranch thread. Have a look. Its startling. Thanks Paula.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358381113

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Im am really angry about the blatant BS the media is pushing.

Time for a plan to take back the media and the "news".

[WhiteFeather]

Im am really angry about the blatant BS the media is pushing.

Time for a plan to take back the media and the "news".

Good Plan but,,,,,The Lamestream Media is owned and operated by The Upper Echelon Board Of Its Corrupted Elites. He who controls the money owns the media, thereby controls the media and its people. The sleepy ones that is.
I think its time for my damned swine flu shot.

[ghostrider]

controlling the narrative is the key, social media talking points that are focused will force the mainstream to respond to us, we the people, thus controlling the narrative ...they must mention the topic or appear behind the curve , and their ego won't let that happen, basically I'm saying use their ego against them ... they think they are cutting edge ...

[T Smith]

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/newtown_truthers_where_conspiracy_theories_come_from/

Gene Rosen, Sandy Hook Hero, Harassed By Conspiracy Theorists Who Claim He's An Actor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory_n_2481912.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Newtown truthers: Where conspiracy theories come from
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/16/newtown_truthers_where_conspiracy_theories_come_from/

I wonder if the whole point of making it easy to spot actors is to demonize "conspiracy theorists" and websites.

Look at this quote from one of the articles above:


“There must be some way to morally shame these people,"

This may be the beginning of the shutting down of websites that point out problems with "official" stories.

I'm always conflicted and somewhat confused after I read articles like the Salon piece. A number of questions come to mind: does the author, who aptly demonstrates intelligent and well-thought-out prose, and who even seems fairly versed in the subject matter, truly believe what he is saying? Do those presumably bright academics who study the psychology and social psychology underlying the world of the conspiracy theorist, who even write and publish books on the subject, and who can't help but employ parroted pejoratives like "paranoid" and "conspiracy theorists" and "nuts" and "tinfoil hats" (presumably because they cannot come up with more original descriptions), truly believe what they are saying? Or are they merely gas-lighting for a paycheck? Do they know they're peddling nonsensical misinformation to any reasoning person who merely questions the givens? Are they merely advancing the official worldview to create controversy? For disinformation purposes? For a more sophisticated psyops campaign to influence the weak minded? Or perhaps for some other reason? If the objective of the Salon piece and countless others like it is to advance an agenda to shut down websites that point out the problems and inconsistencies of the official narratives, as Eyes Wide Open suggests, is the author a conscious agent of this psyops? Or just a useful idiot?

It is almost hard to fathom that the author truly subscribes to his own argument. It's simply astounds to read. But if one suspends disbelief, it is good writing and quite convincing.

[Carmody]

The fact that ...this early in the game..that they feel they HAVE TO address any conspiracy issue...this means they feel they are on the ropes.

No one in a conspiracy publicly addresses conspiracy theories directly. No one. Ever. At any price.

The Psychological position and behavior that is placed in front of the public is everything and addressing it --- means it is in the danger zone.

[Ellisa]

I cannot begin to think what these 'theories' are doing to the relatives of the 26 people who were killed by that really sick young man or what they feel when reading this stuff. Have a heart people.

Unless that is, you really, truly and honestly believe 'it was all a set-up', and the parents of those small children are actors. And you don't really believe that do you?

[Akasha]

I cannot begin to think what these 'theories' are doing to the relatives of the 26 people who were killed by that really sick young man or what they feel when reading this stuff. Have a heart people.

Unless that is, you really, truly and honestly believe 'it was all a set-up', and the parents of those small children are actors. And you don't really believe that do you?

I always try and avoid investment in any kind of belief. That said, all unknowns, once pondered end up somewhere along the sliding scale of plausibility.

The fact that the MSM has gone into damage limitation mode on this subject with the above Anderson Cooper video speaks volumes especially considering, as Carmody points out, that they typically will not go there!

This latest manoeuvre along with the other high strangeness all adds up to move the whole thing along that plausibility scale towards the, frankly, unthinkable.

The cognitive dissonance required to absorb all the inconsistencies of this story currently outweighs the empathy that a part of me still has for these victims if they are indeed such.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-video-debunked_n_2487427.html

[Ellisa]

Akasha- Read the post of EWO, and the link, that is below yours. Perhaps it will help you trade the worry you find in your cognitive dissonance for a measure of compassion for the people affected by the tragedy in Sandy Hook.

[Bill Ryan]

I cannot begin to think what these 'theories' are doing to the relatives of the 26 people who were killed by that really sick young man or what they feel when reading this stuff. Have a heart people.

Unless that is, you really, truly and honestly believe 'it was all a set-up', and the parents of those small children are actors. And you don't really believe that do you?

Some children died that day. But many real people died in 9/11, as well. The sacrifice of innocent victims does not mean that there was not something way darker going on.

At first I was ambivalent about Sandy Hook, but then, over time, I looked at and listened to all the evidence. It appears overwhelmingly clear to me that something very strange, and deeply unsavory, happened that day, that has not yet been fully explained.

My best guess: this was an Illimunati operation, with at least some parents complicit. The parents were not actors. But some did not show any grief that a normal human being would show. This appears unequivocal. Just look and see. It's hard to watch, or believe.

Either they sacrificed their children (or allowed them to be sacrificed) -- or they are not fully human. I write this knowing exactly what those words mean.

It's also possible that not all the parents were complicit. But it does look like an enormous set-up -- yes. And, like 9/11, these people were strategically killed for a strategic reason: not to launch the war against terror, but to launch the war against guns.

[humanalien]

Didn't someone post something about sandy hook
having a drill on this very same thing, days before
it happened?

I never thought of those killed children as not being human
so that could be a possibility.

[Kendall]

My vote is it was staged.

[humanalien]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-video-debunked_n_2487427.html

Thanks for that link EYES WIDE OPEN

I watched the youtube video and there was a mountain of
evidence in there that proved to me that sandy hook was yet
another false flag.

I don't believe any children or adults were harmed at all. This
was all a setup.

I took it upon myself to watch this video and pull out as much
info as i could, just to let others read about what is in the video.
Here goes:
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Video shows a guy running into the woods
and cops caught him, so that is at least 2
people involved in that crime, although the
2nd guy said that he didn't do it. Why was
he running to hide then?

A witness reported that the 2nd suspect was
handcuffed and placed in the front of the
police car. What cop, places a suspect to
a murder, in the front seat?

The long rifle was left in the trunk of the car
by the shooter and there is video of police
taking the long rifle from the trunk of that car,
yet the long rifle was said to have been the primary
weapon. There is a lie, right there....

There were 4 hand guns found inside the school
and the long rifle in the trunk, for a total of 5 weapons.

The school nurse was asked if the named shooter
was a good person and she said yes. Then the
school nurse was asked if the shooters mother was
a good person and she answered yes. School nurses
are supposed to be listed on some register list
but the nurses name was never found.

Robbie Parker, father of Emilie Parker, the little
girl that got shot dead.

Robbie is about to be interviewed. Unknown to robbie,
the camera's are already rolling.

He is seen walking out of a door, joking and laughing
just moments before the actual interview. Then he begins
huffing and puffing to get himself hyperventilated. This
is a trick that actors use to get into character.

Hours before the shooting, robbie was making a facebook
donation page, for his dead little girl, who wasn't shot yet.

This just gets weirder folks. After emilie was already dead,
the parker family was asked to meet with obama. Who do you
suppose it was that sat on obamas lap? Emilie Parker herself.

Gene Rosen is the man that claims that he found 6
children on his lawn(i heard the end of his driveway).
He brought them into his house and from what i heard, he
called the childrens parents.

The video is saying the Gene lives past the firehouse,
that is full of emergency workers, yet the bus driver
felt the need to go past the firehouse and leave the
children on Genes lawn. Does that make sense?

The bus driver was reported as being a women, yet gene
sounds as if he were talking about a man bus driver. Gene
doesn't even ask the driver what happened and why are
you dropping these kids off here. Gene is a complete
stranger to these kids.

So instead of calling the police right away, Gene listens
to stories that the kids were telling him. One of the
kids said that they ran from Soto's class but the police
said that any kids that ran from that class, got killed.

Now we find out that Gene is a member of the screen actors
guild. How interesting.

Gene claims to have looked at the casualty list at 6pm
that same day, yet the list wasn't put out for 2 days
afterwards....

Questions to ponder.

If the kids ran from soto's class and out behind the school,
how did they end up on a bus?

Why would the bus driver dump the kids off on a strangers
lawn and take off.
..........................................

Apparently there were adults with the kids when
they were dropped off but they left when gene
took the kids indoors. He didn't ask any one of
them, including the bus driver, what had happened.

This next segment of video is showing how happy
the parents appear to be, just 2 days after their
7 year old child was killed.. This is the McDonald
family being interviewed by cnn.

CrisisActors.com

This place supplies actors for drills and events.
There has already been numerous connections between
the sandy hook families and the Crisis Acting Team.

Going back to the interview of the medical examiner,
your just going to have to watch it yourself around
the 17 min mark. I couldn't make sense of what he was
saying. Sounds like he was setting up the way he would
be filmed, i don't know. Then it was repeated that the
long rifle was the primary weapon, which happened
to be locked up in the trunk, the whole time.

A reporter caught the part about the long rifle being locked
the whole time and he asked the medical examiner about
it and he said that was wrong. We clearing seen in
earlier footage that police removed the long rifle from the
trunk. Who's lying now??

The examiner really seems like a knuckled headed douche bag..

Next were being directed to look at the strange happenings
right after the shooting.

It starts out with someones footage of google earth. It
didn't show any people in the parking lot after the shootings.
That piece of info is weak at best though because a google earth
of my house always shows the same image as a year ago. Maybe
i'm wrong though.

Next it shows a snapshot of teachers with a bunch of children,
supposedly herding them to safety, after the shooting but
there isn't any police, firemen, rescue workers or anyone
else in that shot.

In a video clip, looks like video from a helicopter,
it shows the street completely blocked off, not even
allowing for police or ambulances to leave or enter.
There are no parent, children or teachers in this video.

Some msm is interviewing a little boy. He was asked what
noises he heard in school that day. He said he heard a sound
like someone kicking in a door, yet the msm is saying that
hundreds of bullets were flying everywhere.

The video goes on to show how relaxed everyone is. Cops
are just mosying right along there at a snails pace as if
nothing has happened. Don't worry about those shot children
in the school. We will get to them when we get to them,
appears to be the attitude.

It's showing another google snapshot of the area of the
school. All the rescue or emergency workers were all parked
a half or whole block away from the school. Who does that
during an emergency?

The video goes on to talk about how fema and homeland security,
for the london bombing, 9-11 and the sandy shootings, on that
very same day that the events happened, fema was having drills
for just that very same thing. This is very odd indeed...

Now were at another FB page.
It read: R.I.P Victory Soto.
It was created Dec 10th

Many of the comments were to ask why it was created,
4 days early.

That page has since been removed and replaced with a new one.

Now it's show a sandy hook fund site, created 3 days earlier.

Another sandy hook fund website was created, Dec 14th, one
day before the shootings.

It's showing a Sandy Hook Elementary victims fund
web site. It was also created one day before the shootings.

Youtube video

The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358478874

[SEAM]

Uh, you guys are seriously freaking me out here.. Stay away from the fringe.. I gotta say "This place is really getting Dark".....
It has gone from "Fear-Porn" in 2012, to "Paranoia-Porn" in 2013.
It's ok to make a stand, as long as you can keep one foot on reality. I have a firm foot on both sides, keeping equal pressure on both. (think about that)
Here is my prediction!! ( I would gladly put a huge wager on this)

* NO ONE will take away Americans rights to own guns. This year, next year, or any time in the future. (fully auto weapons were illegal until Bush Jr.)
* There will not be a total Economic collapse this year or anytime in the near future - It serves NO ONE!
* And finally, there will be no ELE caused by the Sun, this year, or in the near future (Science claims 8% chance in active 2013 - That means NO)

"And now .. (As Eric Idle would say) for something completely different"... http://kevingilmour.net/sandy-hook-conspiracies-theories-debunked/3191

[SEAM]

I don't trust this Man (which one you might ask?)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfp4d6zjLD0&feature=youtube_gdata

[SilentFeathers]

I don't trust this Man (which one you might ask?)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfp4d6zjLD0&feature=youtube_gdata

I think it's great they are bringing this up on MSM.....their trying to discredit AJ and it's working on some level, but on another level it's bringing attention to some issues that are very real.

[Flash]

The is EXCELLENT advertising for Jones. It will backfire from ABC, this won't be used to shame Jones, people will want to go see what he does. And he can hold on to his own ways.

I just wonder now what the PTB will do about it. And I also wonder if it is part of their Agenda, to give Jones some place in the open.

[Bill Ryan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Jfp4d6zjLD0


Yes -- an excellent piece on ABC. I was really quite surprised.

Very balanced, and hundreds of thousands of people who didn't know who Alex Jones really was will now know a lot more. I dare to wonder if this might now all turn in his favor.

[bogeyman]

He has to control is temper, it makes him look like a nut which he isn't.

[SilentFeathers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Jfp4d6zjLD0


Yes -- an excellent piece on ABC. I was really quite surprised.

Very balanced, and hundreds of thousands of people who didn't know who Alex Jones really was will now know a lot more. I dare to wonder if this might now all turn in his favor.

These critters up high are ruthless and I hope they aren't drawing attention to AJ to use him for an example.....

They're using children with no shame right now, Alex would be like squashing an ant to them.